The Rapture： Revelation Series Part IV w⧸ Ed Mabrie
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In Episode 5 of the "Nephilim Death Squad" series, David Lee Corbo ( ) and Ed Mabry ( ) are back to discuss the Book of Revelation and the Rapture. They are joined by special guest Top Lobster ( ) to talk about the end of the world, The Rapture, and the Church of Satan.
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The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely beautiful.
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It's like we all know it's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.
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These motherfuckers, they controlling this now, and no one's talking about how they made us try to be slaves.
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And everybody's just walking around, heading to clouds, and won't awaken to a dead in the grave.
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Welcome back, everyone, to a very special Nephilim Death Squad series.
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I believe we're in episode number five of Dissecting the Book of Revelation.
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So the last place that we left off, we took the entire episode to talk about the synagogue of Satan, which I think rightfully so.
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Because it is a dense topic that deserved the attention that I hope that we were able to give it.
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We were promised, Ed Mabry, a discussion about the rapture, which is a serious point of contention.
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So please, wherever you feel comfortable, take it away.
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There's no strong opinions about it either way.
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It's just like, you know, puppy dogs in the rainbows.
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So, yeah, we went, we were covering a couple of really controversial topics, like the last episode in this, because where we left off before that, we were talking about the church.
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We went through like the seven letters of seven churches.
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And, you know, a couple of things about that, you know, because Jesus mentioned twice the synagogue of Satan.
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And we ended the seven letters portion by talking about the last church, the church of Laodicea, which ended the church age.
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So I thought that a really good bridge would be to talk about the rapture.
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Because, you know, the rapture of the church is obviously involved with the church.
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So, and if the church is ending, we need to cover that before we get on to the, you know, some of the brutal stuff, the tribulation and the antichrist and all that kind of, you know, trumpets and bowls of wrath and all that kind of stuff.
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So I want to basically put it into three areas.
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So we want to talk about the definition of the rapture, the concept of the rapture, the end times rapture, and the controversies around it.
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Because there is no more controversial subject in eschatology, which is the study of last things than rapture.
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So let's start with the definition because, you know, definitions, they're the key to mental health.
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You know, every, almost every argument you have with someone is because you're using like the same vocabulary, different dictionaries.
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So let's set that baseline and then we can go from there.
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So what I'm going to do is I'm just going to quickly read like the two primary rapture scriptures in the Bible.
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So one is the, it's 1 Corinthians chapter 15, I think, starting around verse 51.
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We will not all sleep or die, but we will all be changed in a moment in the twinkling of an eye at the last trumpet.
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For the trumpet will sound and the dead in Christ will be raised imperishable and we will be changed.
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For the perishable must put on imperishable and this mortal must put on immortality.
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The other main rapture passage that most people, no matter what you think about the rapture,
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you agree on that this is a rapture passage, is from 1 Thessalonians and at verse 16.
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I'm sorry, chapter, excuse me, yeah, chapter 4, verse 16.
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In the last verse I gave you, it said we would be caught up.
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That word caught up in, because the New Testament was written in Greek.
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The word, that word harpazo in Latin, which is what the Bible is written in for, you know,
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most of the, the era of when the Catholic church was reigning over the church from about,
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you know, the 5th century to the 15th century, all Bibles were written in Latin.
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And that's where we get the English transliteration of rapture.
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Rapture from rapimir from harpazo, which means to be caught up.
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So the definition, biblically, the definition of a rapture is if you are, is when you are
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physically, supernaturally taken from one place to another.
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The concept of rapture, as far as the end times is concerned, is the idea that at some
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point in the future, based on those two verses we read, Jesus will descend, come down
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And he will, and he will physically, supernaturally take his church from earth to heaven.
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This idea of just people being snapped away and disappearing, like, you know, like, like
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And the second and probably most controversial part is if the rapture is true, when does it
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occur vis-a-vis the period of time we call the tribulation?
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And the tribulation is the word the Christians use for basically the last seven years of the
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That's when, you know, the, the, the, it's called the day of the Lord, the, the 70th
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week of Daniel, the, the time of Jacob's trouble.
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It's when all the bad stuff happened, all the, all the judgment and the wrath and all
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So the question is whether or not, whether this rapture, if it, if it exists happens
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before this period in the middle of this seven year period or at the end of the seven
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So unless you guys, uh, give you your thoughts before we start talking about diving into these
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controversies, um, two things right off the bat.
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The first one, um, we were talking about, I think last week we were talking about God
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basically, um, touching Mary, creating Jesus in this way.
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And it, it, it calls to, or it, it mimics the, the idea of the fallen with the creating
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the Nephilim, except for that's like a much dumber way to do it.
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A rapture sounds a lot like a UFO abduction, right?
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It's kind of like you're being raptured, uh, supernaturally, but also physically, but it's
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kind of still crappy because it's just the best that they could do.
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You know, it's a mimic of, of what God would be.
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And, uh, the second, the second thing I wanted to say was, uh, I'm not quite sure about where
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And I've, I've heard a bunch of sides of it to me.
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It feels like we're going to have to go through it, go like we're going to have to suffer
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a bit before this happens, but I'm not, I'm not sure.
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So, you know, you know, change my mind, uh, top, I just want to say briefly that I, I kind
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of agree with that sentiment is like this idea that some of us, and, and maybe you can live
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Um, and this is coming from a completely uneducated point of view on the, on the matter, but it
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just feels like we, this would be more of a proving ground than anything that we've previously
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And I, I just feel like the weight of your deeds is significantly more so when they're
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done in a time of, you know, um, for lack of a better term chaos, obviously that's not
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that, that phrase doesn't do it justice, but, um, it's easy to do good deeds when life is
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And it's, it's, it really is a challenge to be a good person when life is hard.
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I also think that some of these people, it's like, it's like, you're completely wrong, but
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I think like, like the hero's journey of things that will still happen.
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And, um, I think to, for these people to become the heroes or to be what they're supposed
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That's why it just feels like I have to, we're going to, I'm going to have to go through
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And then we're just going to get, yeah, we're going to get whisked away, uh, without.
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Well, I think I want to keep you, because we're going to talk about, about that because that's,
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that's one of the controversies about, you know, when the rapture occurs is based
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on how much suffering do we have to go through.
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But I think one thing we need to really keep in mind is, and this is something that, you
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know, I think we're all guilty of mostly because of the time we live and where we live.
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We live in the modern age here and we live in America or, or the West.
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We do have a pretty easy here, but we're only about 5% of the population of the world.
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So Christians in America, we do have a relatively easy, it's getting worse, but all in all, we
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Try being a Christian in Indonesia, try being a Christian in, you know, any other predominantly
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Muslim country or in Russia, in most of Africa.
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They're not like, oh, yes, no, they're, they're getting their asses kicked.
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And anytime before, I mean, our, the last, I would say 50, 60, 70 years, we're doing great.
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But before then, you know, most, most kids didn't live to 10 years old.
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You know, we had no, we have very few cures for diseases.
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We lived a very, it was a pretty difficult life.
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But keep in mind that we're talking about a very narrow period of time and a very narrow
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part of the earth where Christians have it easy.
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If you talk to Christians in probably any other time from the time of Jesus' death and
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resurrection up until maybe the last century, they were getting their asses kicked.
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The idea that the dead would be risen up and then for any percentage of those dead to be
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good Christians to then have to suffer again is, that's, I think, in a very narrow sort
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of American way and as a good way of highlighting it.
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Well, so to my understanding, I guess he's going to tell us what he thinks.
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But when it says the dead in Christ will rise, that I assume that all happen at one
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time and then, and also the church will then follow up like immediately after, like right
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And, but the concept, the idea, what we're talking about is like, when does that happen?
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We're going to get, that'll be the second controversy.
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The first one I want to talk about is like whether there actually is a rapture because
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they're, they're, you know, a significant group of, of Christians.
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If you're not a Christian, if you're a secular, you probably don't really care about it.
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Objectively speaking, it sounds, you know, like Jesus is going to come and kind of snap
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And we're going to all just, people are going to disappear.
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Be like, what a pile of clothes sitting on the couch or, you know, we'll be beamed up.
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Like I said, on Star Trek that, I mean, it's so preposterous, secularists, atheists don't
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even, they don't even bother teasing us about it.
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Like, yeah, this is the jokes write themselves with this.
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If you guys want to believe that it's not even, you know, something I'm going to, you
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know, give you a lot of crap about because it's on its own, it's own.
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So what do they make then of the scripture that informs this idea?
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Um, many of them just don't study it or, or, or, or, or consider it worthy of study.
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So let me, so let me, let me get into this really quick.
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So there are the people who say that there is no rapture.
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And one of the reasons that those, there are a couple.
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One is that, again, it's just, it just sounds nuts.
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And the majority of the Christian church, I would say, does not get into the supernatural
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We all acknowledge that we worship a God who we've never seen.
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We know that, you know, Jesus came to earth from, you know, born of a virgin, did some magic
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But after that, it's like in, in the minds of most modern Christians, it's that's when
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Everything after that, it's all about us having our best life.
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It's about Jesus blessing us with money and our, uh, a nice family and good relationship
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And which again, nothing wrong with wanting to have a good life.
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Nothing wrong with raising a family and raising your kids, right.
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And being a good person and, you know, doing right by each other and helping the poor and
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But that's the main focus of the modern church.
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And even from the medieval times, all the way up to our modern times has been like focused
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on what we're doing here on earth, this kingdom here, as opposed to the
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So because of that, when you come up with something that's as wacky and supernatural
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as a rapture, people just kind of back away from it.
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And most Christians are not terribly literate on the Bible.
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So they don't really give it much credence that way.
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The other thing they'll say is that, well, you know, the word rapture isn't in the Bible,
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The concept might be, I mean, you know, you won't find the word Trinity in the Bible,
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but, and that's another controversy in and of itself, but you can find the concept of God
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You won't find the word virgin birth in the Bible, but the concept is clearly there.
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You won't find the term blood atonement in the Bible, but again, the concept is there.
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So just because a word doesn't appear doesn't mean the concept isn't there.
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And in the case of the rapture, as I explained before in the very beginning, it is there.
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It's just, you know, you have to go from the English caught up to Harpazzo to Rappi Mir
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And the final, the people who are really serious about the Bible and don't believe in the rapture,
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they will tell you, and this is their big argument, is that the rapture was not taught
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It was invented by a man by the name of John Darby.
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Darby, John Darby was a minister, a preacher in the 1700s, and the rapture was his thing.
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He talked about it a lot, and he popularized the idea of the rapture.
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And those who don't believe it will say, well, he invented it.
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You know, the early church fathers never talked about it.
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First of all, how could Darby have invented the rapture when, again, the verses I quoted
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to you at the beginning of this episode were from the Apostle Paul in the first century.
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And on my website, faithbyreason.net, I have in my series on the rapture, I have like a
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little meme I made in Photoshop that shows like, you know, John Darby hopping into his
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time machine and going back to the first century and saying, hey, Paul, I have this really cool
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I mean, otherwise, of course, he didn't invent it.
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And then as far as the idea that the early church fathers didn't preach it is also false.
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You know, there are, and IRNAers talked about it, you know, and there are others.
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And I, if you want to get, take that deep dive and go to faithbyreason.net, go to the,
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And I talk about the church fathers who did talk about it.
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Now, granted, once Catholicism became the main expression of Christianity around the
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medieval times and up into the Reformation, the, the end times stuff was not talked about
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And that was mostly because they, Catholic hierarchy was really focused on the kingdom
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You know, we talked about this, I think in the first or second episode where, you know,
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It just went from a senatorial dictatorship to a theocracy.
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And, and the Catholic hierarchy was basically the, the extension of that.
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They just, you know, became a theocracy and they ruled the world.
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So they didn't want people focusing on the future.
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They wanted them focusing on winning the wars here and, you know, conquering the world
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And yes, Darby revived it, but he didn't invent it.
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But, but so those are kind of the, the arguments against the concept of the rapture.
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But I, I think they're really, really weak because it's right there in the Bible.
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So, um, you know, I, I would just like to touch on something you, you mentioned there that
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they don't really look at things in the supernatural way and that all the supernatural events basically
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stopped after Christ and now they're just focusing on the kingdom here on earth and, you know,
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good relationships, uh, the blessings that are bestowed upon them, good family, things
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Um, but obviously on this show, we are, our opinions are steeped in the supernatural.
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Um, and just hearing top alluded, alluded to it rather before this idea of being sort
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Um, I just, I think that was kind of an interesting point that you made top where you said that
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because it seems Satan's game is to invert everything.
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And so when you have this concept of being whisked up into the clouds and you see that
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mirrored in all of these alien abductions and everything, it's just all these themes,
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Um, pop culture has changed our opinion on what the alien, you know, topic actually is.
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It's, it's just a wild thing to think like that, that in itself is, has a, has a rooting
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I'm going to tie it together because I, you, what you just mentioned with the whole alien
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abduction thing, I was actually going to kind of wait until we got to revelation chapter
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six, but I'm, I'll, I'll bring it up towards the end of this, because I think that that's
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going to be part of the deception when the rapture, cause I, I, I, I believe it's going,
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I think it's pretty clear, but it's going to be, they're going to have to explain what
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And I think that this abduction phenomenon might be, I don't know with a hundred percent certainty,
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but I think this might be a way that they kind of explain what happened.
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Wasn't that something that LA Marzulli speculated as to, um, when we got towards the end of that
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episode, I believe he said that something about abductions and the rapture and how that was
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going to play off one another and, and how they were going to leverage that concept to
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So, um, yeah, like, like it just said, they have to, they have to explain this to the rank
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and file because if something like that just happens and there's just a pile of clothes
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or how, you know, everyone's seen, uh, what's this movie called left behind this kind of
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thing, you know, like there's gotta be an explanation.
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And then, and then your entire narrative really crumbles, which it already is.
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I was actually watching a podcast from him like a couple of weeks ago.
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And I, I, I agree with him on some, on some of the things he says.
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So the biggest controversy, and this is what was going to take the bulk of it.
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And this is, what's going to get, you know, your listeners like mad at me a little bit,
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or, or maybe a lot, um, is that's the timing of it.
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So the timing of the rapture, again, as it relates to the tribulation.
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There's the one school of thought is that this event will happen before the tribulation
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Then there's though they're called pre-tribulation raptures or pre-tribs.
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Then you have the people who think it's going to happen in the middle at the three and a
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half year point, because it's, there's reason to divide this seven year period into two,
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The final three and a half years, the first, it's going to all be bad, but the final three
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and a half years are going to be really, really bad.
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It's when the wrath of God is going to be poured out.
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It's when the antichrist is going to make, he's going to force everyone to take the mark
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You know, everyone's Christians are going to be terrible.
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Any believers in God are going to be terribly persecuted.
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Christian and Jews or any believers, it's going to be rough.
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So some believe that, that the rapture will happen right before that.
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So they're called mid tribulation is our mid trippers.
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Then there are those who believe that, um, the rapture will happen at the end of the
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tribulation, right at the, almost at simultaneous with the second coming of Christ, because
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the second coming of Christ happens at the end of the, of the so-called battle of Armageddon,
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which is what, which happens at the end of the tribulation and that they'll be caught
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up to, to Jesus then, and then, you know, Jesus comes down.
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So that's part of the, of that same scenario, which means, you know, Christians will have
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And the reason that, and, and people generally, if you believe in the rapture, you generally
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take one of those positions and you basically argue and disparage the people who take the
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I mean, if you want to just see Christians behaving badly towards each other, go to any
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website or any video on YouTube or any place else that talks about the rapture, takes a
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I mean, you will see Christians like literally verbally assaulting each other.
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And I say this as someone who was involved in those battles for a while and, you know,
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did some, said some things to people that I'm not proud of because I thought I was right
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It's because each one of these positions has scriptures that they use to back it up.
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So before I get into, get into this, I want to talk about, because this is going to be
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I want to talk about the model of the ancient Jewish wedding and how it relates to Christ
00:25:36.920
So can I also say, because in my experience too, with Christians, how these, how they
00:25:43.820
take position on this is almost how they craft and mold their life as a Christian.
00:25:52.180
She's like, I'm not going to have to worry about nothing.
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Isn't that, I'm kind of like, I feel like I'm going to have to go through it.
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So I'm going to learn to farm and, you know, self-sustain.
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It really does change how you live from this point going forward.
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She lives on the property with me, but the idea is very different.
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Cause the people pre-trib are like, yeah, I've got nothing to worry about.
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I'm not gonna say all of them because, um, I know some who are, who are back actually very
00:26:28.680
intense about, you know, being prepared because even, even those who believe that they'll be
00:26:34.120
taken out before the, the tribulation doesn't mean that everything's going to be easy leading
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It's not like we're going to be sunshine and roses and then snap tribulation happens.
00:26:42.740
You know, it, it, things get really shitty before that, but you know, but you're right.
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It does, if depending on what you think about it, you know, you, you, you're going to have
00:26:52.040
Like people who are post-trib are like, you know what, you know, they'll call the people
00:26:56.580
You don't, you know, you don't, you're not willing to suffer for Christ.
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And the people who are otherwise say, I don't want to suffer.
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So, but, so I'm going to get into their arguments, but first I want to bring up the, the, the,
00:27:12.560
the Jewish wedding, because I think that's going to be really important as we kind of
00:27:17.040
decipher these things and talk about what's, what I believe is happening and what I think
00:27:21.400
the solution to this issue is, these issues are.
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So the Jewish wedding is, which, you know, the ancient Hebrews did, and that the, even
00:27:30.660
people during the time of, of Christ understood and knew very different than our Western form
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of marriage, where, you know, you give somebody a ring, you propose, you have a ceremony with
00:27:42.360
When the son was ready to take on a bride, when the father was ready to give his son, to
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He would go, if the father directly would go and find a suitable wife, or if the family
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was well-to-do, the father would have a servant go and find a wife.
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So the servant or the father would go and they would find a woman who was virtuous, who
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had really good qualities, whatever those might be.
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And they would say, Hey, look, you know, I have a son who's ready to get married.
00:28:09.520
And we think, you know, go to the father, to the, the family of the, of the bride to
00:28:24.100
It's almost like an arranged, it's basically an arranged marriage more or less.
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And even though people try to say that, you know, the Bible is against women and it's
00:28:32.640
sexist and patriarchal, no, the woman still had the choice.
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It wasn't like, you know, that she had to do, she had to do this no matter what.
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No, what happens, the father, or the servant of the, of the husband to be would make a case
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We have this great family, but she could say no.
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But if she said, yes, you know, I like this family.
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The way you described the son to me is awesome.
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The father of the, of the family would give her gifts.
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And then they would go back and let the son know that they had a bride waiting for him.
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The bride, her job then was to make herself ready, to learn what it meant to be a good wife,
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to separate herself, to sanctify herself, and to just be prepared to learn what, what she
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In the meantime, the son, his job was to start building a home for the new family.
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And it was always part of, he would, it would be in addition to the father's home.
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And once the, the, the, the, once the son completed the home, then the father would inspect
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So it, the, the tradition was the son would come with an entourage of his, his best friends
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and they would bring a whole wedding party and they would usually come in the middle of
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They would blow a trumpet or a shofar really loudly.
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And if she was ready, she'd come down and they'd go in and have the marriage supper.
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She had to be prepared because she didn't know when it was happening.
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If the, the groomsmen, the groom came and she was not prepared, then he could technically
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in the marriage covenant right there and say, okay, you're not ready.
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Cause it was, it was a sign of dishonor for her not to be ready, not to, not to be watching
00:31:27.980
He could either delay and say, okay, you're not ready.
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You've just dishonored me by not being a state of readiness.
00:31:37.060
That's important because another passage, just a rapture passage that people don't really
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consider it, a rapture passage is, um, gospel of John chapter 14.
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And I'm going to quote it because I had to memorize this as a kid that let not your heart
00:31:50.420
You believe in God, believe also in me and my father's house are many mansions or many
00:31:58.160
And if I go to prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you that, that
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Now in our minds, it sounds like a nice thing Jesus said, but in the minds of a first century
00:32:13.800
And we talked about this at the church of Philadelphia, um, a couple of episodes ago.
00:32:17.860
That's, that's the whole bride of Christ thing.
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And so that equates the rapture to this marriage ceremony.
00:32:24.800
So just keep that in mind as we go through the, the, um, the, the three controversies.
00:32:29.580
So the pre-trip people, they believe that again, the church will be taken before the tribulation.
00:32:36.780
And the reason they believe that they have the scriptures they have for, um, for example,
00:32:41.100
the, the, the church of Philadelphia scripture from revelation chapter two, where Jesus says
00:32:45.320
to the church at Philadelphia, because you are faithful, I will keep you out of, ek is
00:32:51.540
the term in Greek, out of the time of trouble that's coming on the earth.
00:32:57.540
So that's one of the reasons they believe it, because it says I will rapture you.
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There's also the book of second Thessalonians and first Thessalonians has that first rapture
00:33:07.860
caught up harpazo that I mentioned before, but second Thessalonians was written because
00:33:13.120
the Thessalonian church who had been taught about the rapture by Paul and first Thessalonians,
00:33:17.600
then they started experiencing, um, persecution from the Romans and they started panicking and
00:33:25.100
because they thought that the tribulation had started and they were still on earth.
00:33:30.080
So they expected to be taken out before the tribulation.
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And so Paul wrote second Thessalonians and he says, Hey, don't know what he could have
00:33:37.960
said was, you know, Hey, you know, guys, don't worry.
00:33:39.960
You're not going to be raptured before this tribulation.
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You're going to be raptured at the middle or end.
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But no, he says, he tells him, you know, this isn't going to happen.
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I'm not going to take too much time on it because you can go to my website and get more,
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but that's why people believe in the pre-trib rapture.
00:34:00.520
Now the mid-trib rapture or pre-wrath rapture, the people who believe that they believe it
00:34:05.580
because at the midpoint of the tribulation, you have a scene where there's this 144,000
00:34:16.320
After the tribulation starts, when the Antichrist starts the tribulation, it's actually him
00:34:20.900
The rapture doesn't begin the tribulation or anything like that.
00:34:22.840
This seven-year covenant that the Antichrist establishes with Israel starts the tribulation.
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And right after that, you have 144,000 Jewish witnesses who will go into the world, who
00:34:33.520
will go out into the world, and they will witness on behalf of Jesus.
00:34:35.880
And the Bible says they will have a huge harvest of souls.
00:34:40.220
There's going to be a huge revival during the tribulation where there's going to be tons
00:34:44.980
And then at the midpoint of the tribulation, you see all those people in heaven.
00:34:51.940
So that's one of those verses that they use to justify a mid-tribulation rapture.
00:34:57.880
And you also have the two witnesses who many people, including myself, believe do their
00:35:06.360
And they, and it says very clearly that they're killed by the Antichrist, and then their bodies
00:35:15.840
And so it's believed that all these things happen at the midpoint.
00:35:19.340
So the church is taken up before the main wrath of God pours out in the second three
00:35:25.260
No, I just wanted to ask you, that's where you get the Jehovah Witnesses, right?
00:35:29.120
David, can I just say, I love this so much because I've done Bible study and all this
00:35:33.060
So like what we're talking about here, I'm just like, yep, yep.
00:35:37.940
Well, this is, I've heard a little bit of it because this is my understanding about the
00:35:41.140
Jehovah Witnesses is they believe within their organization lies the 144,000.
00:35:46.480
So the Jehovah Witnesses foundation, it seems like at its core is the book of Revelation,
00:35:55.400
Like that is the foundation that they're, that's kind of the bedrock for the entire organization.
00:36:00.300
They are in their minds, Jehovah's Witnesses, the witnesses who, you know, who get whisked
00:36:11.000
I was going to say it just in this day and age, it feels like maybe it would be more,
00:36:15.040
more like a podcast, not the Watchtower magazine.
00:36:18.040
That's just like, yeah, kind of weak sauce, dude.
00:36:22.340
Well, we could almost put them in the character, in the category we talked about last week of
00:36:28.560
Because, yeah, the Bible very clearly says 144,000 are from the 12, well, age 11, because
00:36:34.920
The, from, they're actually genetic Israelites.
00:36:39.020
Jehovah Witnesses, as far as I know, they're, they're Gentiles, but they claimed, it's just
00:36:43.980
And, you know, it started, Jehovah's Witnesses started like the mid-1800s.
00:36:47.000
And they believed that they were the 144,000, that as soon as they had 144,000 in their,
00:36:52.920
you know, as Jehovah's Witnesses, then Jesus would come back or something like that.
00:36:56.060
But, of course, then when they went past 144,000, well, they're like, okay, we got to change
00:37:00.480
Yeah, they've incorrectly predicted the return of Christ and, you know, the end of the world,
00:37:05.780
like, I think, like, a staggering 20-something times or something like that.
00:37:13.320
Yeah, 1914, like, it was, like, over and over again.
00:37:16.000
And then it got to the point where they said that it did happen, but it was a spiritual
00:37:21.760
And one of their, their leaders wrote a book, I think it was called, Thousands Now Living
00:37:32.240
And it happened to us, but it was our, our spirits and now our bodies in some way, shape
00:37:40.320
I would, for anybody in the chat that's listening, look that up.
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It's like, thousands now living will never die.
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And that was like, and then a lot of those people, because it was written a long time
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I have this thing that I always, I say a lot on Faith by Reason, always say, you know
00:37:56.500
what, the Bible, do not make the Bible conform to your doctrine.
00:38:03.220
You know what, if, say, you know what, I believe this, I was wrong.
00:38:05.900
Just, I do it all, look, you know, there's things I believed 10 years ago that I was wrong
00:38:09.560
I'm like, you know, I'm not going to try to like force it to be right.
00:38:16.620
So let's talk about the final, the post-tribulation raptures, rapturists, the post-tribbers.
00:38:25.140
They rely heavily, and for good reason, on the words of Jesus himself in Matthew chapter
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Matthew chapter 24, Jesus says, I think I have it up.
00:38:37.260
So basically, Jesus says, after the tribulation of those days, I'm going to paraphrase it.
00:38:43.060
He says, after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not
00:38:48.340
I mean, the sun will darken, not give his light, the moon will be turned to blood, and
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I will send my angels to gather my elect from the four corners of the earth.
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And it clearly says, after the tribulation of those days, because in Matthew 24, Jesus
00:39:03.060
is giving a private briefing to a group of his disciples.
00:39:07.140
They come and ask him, because before that, at the beginning of Matthew 24, Jesus talks
00:39:11.860
about the temple and how the temple is going to be torn down and terrible things are going
00:39:15.380
And a few disciples come to him and they say, tell us, when will these things be?
00:39:19.320
What will be the sign of your coming and of the end of this age?
00:39:24.500
And so he's talking about the end times, and he says very clearly that he talks about terrible
00:39:28.220
things happening, wars, earthquakes, famine, you know, just the tribulation, essentially.
00:39:33.460
And he says, after the tribulation of those days, then I will gather my people.
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And so the post-tribulation people cling to this, and again, for very good reasons.
00:39:43.120
And they say that it says after the tribulation, so it has to be at the end, then Jesus will
00:39:50.500
So those are the three categories, and each one of them has biblical backing.
00:39:58.580
So that's why it's so tough to talk someone out of their position, because I have scriptures
00:40:04.780
And again, you go to any website, any video, and you read the comments, people are literally
00:40:10.700
They're saying, and they'll call each other names.
00:40:15.800
You need to study the Greek, and it just goes on and on.
00:40:34.320
How can they all be right or all be wrong if they have the Bible backing them up?
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I'll call it a theory that I have on Faith by Reason.
00:40:55.140
I'm going to give you an example of it that all Christians believe and that we actually
00:41:00.040
give our, some of our Jewish friends a lot of trouble about, and that is the advent of
00:41:07.080
Obviously, if you're an Orthodox Jew, you don't believe that Jesus of Nazareth, who came in
00:41:13.260
They're still waiting for the advent of the Messiah.
00:41:16.760
Now, in the, what we call the Old Testament from, you know, Genesis to Malachi, there are
00:41:25.780
Half of them talk about him as a suffering servant.
00:41:28.140
The other half, more or less, talk about him as a conquering king.
00:41:30.680
But these prophecies of his first coming are so vivid that it's, it's really boggles the
00:41:37.940
I mean, if you look at Daniel chapter nine, it actually gives you the formula to find the
00:41:41.900
exact date which he would present himself on what we call Palm Sunday.
00:41:46.640
You know, it says there'll be, you know, this is the 70 weeks prophecy.
00:41:49.320
It says there'll be 490 years from the time that the order to rebuild Jerusalem is given,
00:41:58.080
There is the, the declaration of Artaxerxes when they, when the Persian empire allowed
00:42:03.740
We talked about this a little bit last week, allows them to go back to Israel.
00:42:06.520
You count 490, actually at 482 years to that day, that's when Jesus would return.
00:42:14.220
That, that happened, that had to happen in, in the first century.
00:42:19.780
Here's how you remember there were two sets of prophecies, suffering servant, conquering
00:42:27.620
Those are, those seem like a contradiction, a conflict or a contradiction.
00:42:31.200
You can't be both a suffering servant and a conquering king.
00:42:34.440
Well, every Christian knows there are two advents of Jesus.
00:42:37.580
He came first as a suffering servant who was despised and rejected, who died, who suffered
00:42:45.000
And his second coming is when he will come as a conquering king.
00:42:47.920
And then he'll establish the kingdom and defeat the enemies of, of Israel.
00:42:53.420
And we give the Pharisees and those folks a lot of, uh, of, of grief about it and rightfully
00:43:00.680
They should have been Jesus, the biggest cheerleaders, but they rejected him.
00:43:04.440
Because they made the mistake of not, of, of, of, of not seeing two things.
00:43:11.520
They, they saw, they, they saw, they only thought there'd be one coming of the Messiah.
00:43:15.660
So what they did was they took the verses that they liked, which was a conquering king
00:43:19.920
who's going to come in and conquer their enemies and set up a kingdom.
00:43:22.020
And they just ignored or disparaged the verses that they didn't like.
00:43:25.460
They didn't like the idea of the Messiah being a suffering servant who would have no commonness
00:43:29.600
and men would desire him that by his stripes, we are healed.
00:43:35.180
So what they did, they only taught the conquering king and they ignored the suffering servant.
00:43:40.920
So much so that after a few hundred years, they, it wasn't even commonly taught anymore.
00:43:45.600
So when Jesus actually came as a suffering servant, they missed him so much.
00:43:49.540
So they thought he was being blasphemous when he said he was the Messiah and they had him killed.
00:43:53.500
Here's the, and, and again, Christians give the Jews a hard time for that.
00:43:59.500
But if you are taking a position on the rapture pre mid or post, you are making the same mistake as the Pharisees.
00:44:08.760
You are, you are taking the verses that you like and disparaging or ignoring the ones you don't like, but all of them are in the Bible.
00:44:22.020
If there are two, if there are multiple, I call it multiple resolutions.
00:44:26.040
If there are multiple descriptions of an event, then there are multiple events.
00:44:32.500
That means that if there are multiple descriptions of the rapture in the Bible, then there are multiple raptures in the Bible.
00:44:42.540
Why is no one, this sounds, I mean, I'm as somebody who does not have this.
00:44:47.160
And I'd love that you have this position, Dave.
00:44:49.860
Because I'm listening to you and I'm going, well, yeah, if it says it in, in, in ways that can support both post, during and, and pre, then doesn't that mean that there will be several raptures post, during and pre?
00:45:09.800
They do, and there's two reasons, and you're not, and there are people who are, who take these positions, including myself, because I took a position too.
00:45:16.980
And I, I don't want to get on a high horse and say that I came to this because I'm so brilliant.
00:45:20.740
Like, I said, I'm ready to realize, but I, I, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.
00:45:39.100
want to be right and here's the key i wanted my opponents to be wrong that was that's called pride
00:45:45.020
it wasn't just about me being right it was about my people i've been arguing against being wrong
00:45:50.300
and i had to i had to check myself like like you said the last time people did that with something
00:45:56.060
this serious you ended up killing the son of god so now yeah so i want to give one more thing
00:46:01.260
because here's here's the thing there are people watching right now who are who are not embracing
00:46:05.100
this and i get it because i didn't either but i want to show you that you already believe in
00:46:09.660
multiple raptures every christian who's watching right now i'm going to prove to you right now that
00:46:15.100
you already believe in multiple raptures even though you think there's only one because what's
00:46:19.260
the definition of a rapture that's why i gave the definition before is to be physically
00:46:22.620
supernaturally taken from one place to another there have been four raptures that are recorded
00:46:28.140
in the bible but that have nothing to do with the end times that every christian believes i'll give
00:46:32.300
them to you right now the first happens in genesis chapter five enoch what's the first enoch walked
00:46:38.540
with god and he was not for god took him enoch never died enoch was taken from earth to heaven
00:46:45.180
that's a rapture folks i've never heard any christian argue against enoch being taken to god that's a
00:46:50.700
rapture so you believe that one second one elijah in the book of first kings elijah never died elijah was
00:46:57.660
taken to heaven in a fiery chariot that sounds like someone being supernaturally physically taken
00:47:03.740
from one place to another yeah somebody's seen it happen exactly so and i've never heard any christian
00:47:10.780
argue against elijah being taken up the third one guy named jesus perhaps you've heard of him in acts
00:47:18.140
chapter two jesus after his death and resurrection he was he was he sent to heaven he was taken to heaven
00:47:24.860
and there were two angels two elohim who told the disciples the same way that jesus you see him
00:47:29.180
going up he's going to come back down the same way so he was supernaturally taken to heaven he's going
00:47:33.100
to supernaturally come back down i've never heard anyone argue against that if you don't believe that
00:47:37.420
jesus is entered to heaven then maybe christianity is not right for you because that's pretty pretty
00:47:43.100
pretty germane to it so that's three right there fourth also happens in the book of acts with the
00:47:48.060
disciple philip he was in in um in jerusalem in israel he was taken physically to the ethiopian munich
00:47:55.900
um and he witnessed to the eunuch baptized him and then he was taken supernaturally back to israel
00:48:01.820
so i could argue that's two raptures but i'll just call it one and again never heard anyone argue against
00:48:07.340
that so that's four raptures right there that have already happened that you already believe so why do you
00:48:13.500
believe god's only capable of one more it's like like god was at a carnival playing ski ball and he
00:48:18.380
got like five rapture tickets and he started use four of them he only has one more left come on god
00:48:24.220
can rapture people as many times as he wants in his in his plan why are we limiting him to just one more
00:48:31.500
no reason there's absolutely no reason to limit him so if the bible teaches has verses that talk about
00:48:38.380
three different raptures then there are three then there should be then our three end times raptures
00:48:43.660
so the question isn't which rapture is it the question is right the question is which rapture do you
00:48:49.900
want to be a part of because there are qualifications for all three because they're
00:48:54.620
not all three intended for the same groups of people which we'll talk about but i'll let you let
00:48:58.380
you guys chime in that's what that's that's the only thing that i was going to say it's like
00:49:02.300
okay these because it this does make a lot more sense so what qualifies you what puts you in the
00:49:08.140
position of the first rapture and question right off the top of my head i'm thinking you're thinking
00:49:13.180
well the most holy people but i don't know i don't know maybe you might need those people around
00:49:19.500
here is the qualification and again this is my theory so i could be i'm i'm going to say right
00:49:24.380
now i could be wrong this is just because the bible isn't explicit it it doesn't say the words you must do
00:49:30.700
x to be a part of the pre-tribulation rapture it doesn't say that but it does give some hints and i
00:49:35.500
talked about a couple of them in the episode on the seven letters of seven churches we looked at
00:49:40.780
the the church at sardis which was the dead church they were oh here's the the last four churches the
00:49:46.140
churches the church at thyatira sardis philadelphia and laodicea all have promises about the end times
00:49:53.340
the first three don't so they've so that means that those three churches the first three ephesus
00:49:57.660
smyrna and pergamum they're done but there will be elements of all the of the of the last four in the
00:50:03.820
world remember the thyatira represented the roman catholic church sardis represented the denominational
00:50:09.420
or protestant church philadelphia represented the faithful or missionary church and laodicea is our
00:50:15.340
post-modern emergent church all those are around to this day and they're all giving promises about
00:50:19.820
the end times in fact the church of thyatira it says jesus says if you do not repent i will i will put
00:50:25.900
you into tribulation they're actually promised tribulation that church is and they're around to this
00:50:31.340
day if they don't stop their idol worship sardis is told that if you are not watchful i will come
00:50:37.900
upon you as a thief what does a thief come to do a thief comes to take something i want to focus on
00:50:43.260
them because i think that's one of the qualifications you have to be watchful because in the heart and of
00:50:48.460
course um philadelphia we talked about before their promise they were jesus proposed to them he says
00:50:53.100
because you're faithful i'm going to write on you the family name i'm going to make you a part of my house
00:50:57.020
and i'm going to give you my father's name he he proposed to the church they're the bride of christ
00:51:05.100
and that's why i gave the jewish wedding model before
00:51:09.020
so the church of sardis was told to be watchful and if they were not watchful a thief would come
00:51:13.500
and take something from them so my extrapolation from that is that in order to be a part of this you
00:51:19.500
have to be watchful for it you have to be that expected bride if you are not watchful then you
00:51:27.420
will then he will come as a thief and he will come and he will take something from you he will tell me
00:51:34.700
and could that something be your place so let me talk about your mom i'll let you talk a second time
00:51:40.300
i just want to because you mentioned your mom the problem is i think there are some people who are so
00:51:44.700
focused on being taken away they're not being watchful so they might be surprised to think i
00:51:51.580
was expecting this but were you watchful and by watchful i don't just mean looking for it i mean
00:51:56.220
being prepared being sanctified and if you're not prepared as i said with the jewish wedding model
00:52:04.140
then the the bride the groom can say i'm calling this off or he can say well maybe next i'll get you later
00:52:10.860
right yeah so that's what you're saying you're saying the second and the third would be
00:52:14.460
i'm going to come back for you later you're not ready yet so does everybody do each of these uh
00:52:20.060
models have to end up in the same basically in the same frame or same state of mind just as
00:52:27.740
meaning like some people take longer to get there yeah i mean as the world gets progressively worse the
00:52:33.340
second group of people have said i have to do this xyz whatever they did before me and then the
00:52:40.220
third group of people still haven't really done that yet it just takes more time for them to do
00:52:44.140
they need to see the actual nephilim for them to start here's what i think is going to happen i think
00:52:49.660
that the the people who are watchful i believe they will be taken in in the first rapture i think
00:52:54.380
they're faithful i mean i think the church of philadelphia is is the um it's a model for that so
00:52:59.580
let's let's say you're not watchful i don't want to i'm not gonna put your mom in that category
00:53:02.860
because i don't want to go there but let's say that whatever reason you're not watchful you're not
00:53:05.980
prepared and you missed the first rapture well well you're going to be watching for the second
00:53:10.140
one you're not going to be you're not going to take that for granted i so i don't think that's
00:53:13.740
the issue so well unless the government lies to you about the nature of what happened right
00:53:19.740
i think if you're if you're a christian you i think the secular world could take that um stance of oh
00:53:25.260
well this they were just zapped away because i think what's going to happen is that when the first
00:53:30.860
when the pre-tribulation rapture happens i think they're going to paint the people who disappeared
00:53:35.660
as not the good guys but the bad guys those were the people those were the religious fanatics those
00:53:41.180
are the people who are not ready for what for this new paradigm we're bringing up upon the earth
00:53:46.380
they aliens had to get rid of them right yeah they're stuck in their old ways they're not progressive
00:53:51.420
enough their their thoughts are not they're not ready for this we have they have to be wiped out in
00:53:56.300
order to in order to elevate our thought processes so that we be ready for the the basically the
00:54:02.860
fallen angels that's what they are and we'll get into that when we talk about this this the um the
00:54:07.260
the four horsemen you're telling me right now that like i so i don't i don't think that i am good
00:54:12.940
enough to go the first route but i'm also going to be the guy that can't shut up during that time
00:54:19.260
between the first and the second so i'll probably get my head cut off yeah that's i'm gonna be right
00:54:24.220
there dude i say too much to be whisked away on the first go around but after that i'm gonna be
00:54:30.300
like are you paying attention and that's gonna get me that's definitely gonna get me in trouble
00:54:35.500
i believe and there are people who disagree with me there are some people who i respect who believe
00:54:38.700
that the church is going to be raptured before no matter what you think but i i don't think that's
00:54:42.780
fair i think it needs to i think there needs to be a qualification so um so what i think is going to
00:54:48.860
happen i think god's intention i don't think he wants his church to suffer i really don't any
00:54:55.740
suffer anymore this could because this period of time called the tribulation is not intended for the
00:55:00.380
church it's not it's called the time of jacob's trouble it is very very old testament when we get
00:55:06.620
to the tribulation there's two purposes of the tribulation one is to punish spiritual evil
00:55:12.060
and the second is to get israel the the remaining jews who are not who are not christians because they
00:55:17.740
don't believe in in in the advent of jesus to get them to request that to accept their messiah and
00:55:23.980
request he comes back because there is a verse which we're going to get into later that jesus cannot
00:55:28.780
physically return the second coming until he is requested by his people the jews so those are two
00:55:36.220
purposes those purposes have nothing to do with the church that does not mean that there will not be
00:55:39.900
believers there will be believers during the tribulation because but god's intention
00:55:45.100
is for his for the bride of his son to go beforehand but not everyone's going to so let's say for
00:55:52.700
whatever reason you're not a part of the first one well you'll likely be part of the second one because
00:55:57.820
the second one is is really it's intended for the people who get saved after or during the tribulation
00:56:04.940
the 144 000 jewish witnesses they are there to have that revival so the intention is for people who
00:56:11.420
who who were not believers who see the the the antichrist come around come about who see the
00:56:19.020
the first rapture and they're like okay i believe now i did not believe in god before but i see the
00:56:24.140
supernatural stuff happening i don't believe this antichrist guy you don't want to call him now
00:56:27.980
whatever is whoever is whatever his name is i don't believe in this i believe in the bible now i've
00:56:32.300
heard my friends and family talk about because we all have friends and family who are not believers
00:56:35.660
unfortunately i do i'm sure you guys do as well who may end up with the rapture happens to if the
00:56:40.620
rapture happens tomorrow they may not be taken it probably won't be taken but they will say wait a
00:56:44.620
minute i remember ed used to talk about this you know top and dave he used to tell me about this stuff
00:56:49.420
this must be real i'm going to become a believer now the mid-strip rapture is meant for them
00:56:54.940
that's another job because god does not want any human beings to endure that the last three and a half
00:57:00.940
years it's not meant for humans his judgment is meant for spiritual evil because they will be
00:57:06.300
trapped on the earth at that point that's so very hard for these people it's like a when you say
00:57:13.100
that i'm thinking about people that are um maybe just right now waking up to the coveted regime like
00:57:17.900
they just posted something in the new york post about fauci and all his misdoings and i know for sure
00:57:23.820
like our my friend dave smith is going to be debating chris cuomo at the end of this month about
00:57:29.260
covid this is a big thing and this is something that obviously we've all been looking at for a
00:57:33.980
long time and we know what's up but when people see that they're going to be like oh my god
00:57:38.860
because dave smith is going to kill him literally he's going to take his soul he's going to take his
00:57:43.340
head and but it's just going to be so much harder for these people because they've been asleep this
00:57:47.580
whole time and now the people who could have told you that the internet's been wiped you know and and
00:57:53.260
now you have to figure that out by yourself kicking and screaming i wanted to ask you what do you
00:57:58.620
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for five percent off your entire order i think children probably children will i'm sure though
00:58:51.980
people still have have kids during the time um if you ask me if well i guess there's probably two parts
00:58:57.260
to that question one part i hear i i've heard before uh asked is that if you are a child will you be
00:59:03.340
taken um you know the first time around i believe there's something called the age of accountability paul
00:59:08.860
talks about in the book of romans that um if you have to know you have to be cognizant of right and
00:59:16.940
wrong to an acceptable degree before god can hold you accountable for it and what that age is it i
00:59:24.700
think it depends on the child and i and so i think if you are innocent and also believe people who are
00:59:31.180
developmentally disabled who don't have the ability i i if you do not have the ability then i i i believe in
00:59:38.060
god's mercy that he is he is going to um not hold you accountable that's the first if the if the
00:59:43.740
pre-trib was literally just down syndrome people floating away i'd be like children yeah i'd be
00:59:49.900
like all right dude i get it hell yeah i couldn't complain either i mean you know my favorite people
00:59:57.180
hell yeah take them take them get them out of here go on but the final so so so basically the second
01:00:04.140
the the mid-trip will be people who were saved during the tribulation also people who were saved
01:00:08.460
beforehand but weren't watchful my opinion okay so i just want to make this so this isn't the opinion
01:00:13.580
of the nephilim death squad this is ed mabry's opinion and so but but i think but i but i do
01:00:19.420
believe who was in it was intended for people who got saved by the witnessing during the first three and
01:00:24.220
a half years so i think that his honestly my idea is that after the first three and a half years i don't
01:00:29.580
think there will be any christians left because you have to take the mark of the beast at the three
01:00:34.380
and a half year point and when you take the mark of the beast you are no longer eligible for salvation
01:00:38.940
so it's literally the last three and a half years is for the actual evil and the damned yes now that
01:00:45.580
that's not to say there won't be a few stragglers there may be some people who are so stubborn that
01:00:49.740
and they won't take the mark of the beast but they'll they'll see two raptures happen they'll see the
01:00:53.420
antichrist wanting to be worshiped and okay i finally get it but they might i don't know if they're going to
01:00:58.380
make it through the last three and a half years because they they won't be able to buy or sell
01:01:01.900
anything and you have to take the mark of the beast under punishment of death so it's going to be hard
01:01:08.140
to get through that last three and a half years alive it's going to you're going to have to be
01:01:11.500
extraordinary if you maybe if you have your farm out in the wilderness somewhere and you can just
01:01:15.820
tough it out but i think it's going to be extremely difficult but not not impossible i would be i would
01:01:22.380
love to watch a movie that was about like a very small collective they would be scattered
01:01:27.340
obviously it would be separate non-interlinking stories these characters wouldn't but like the
01:01:32.380
the real stubborn and and sort of like the naysayers there's like you know 10 of them left
01:01:39.740
at the end and just to watch what they go through that would be i'd watch that movie i have a buddy of
01:01:44.460
mine who and he his theory is that all the zombie movies and tv shows are like predictive programming for
01:01:50.540
that period of time because everyone if you take the mark of the beast well you've had you talk to la
01:01:55.020
mars i think it's going to change you to the point where i'm getting way ahead of myself but i think
01:01:59.100
i think it's going to alter you to the point where you almost will be a zombie you will not be yourself
01:02:04.380
and i'll give my reasons for that i don't have time in this episode so i think it will literally be like
01:02:09.660
the walking dead but that last but the post-tribulation rapture what about that who was that intended for
01:02:15.340
that's intended for israel it's intended for people who up until that time were not believing jews why
01:02:23.180
do i say that because we'll see when we get to revelation chapter 12 that after uh revelation
01:02:28.940
chapter 12 is a really cool chapter because it basically um shows how god sees time and it gives
01:02:35.900
the outline of all of history from from adam and eve all the way up to the tribulation period but what it says
01:02:43.420
is that after um jesus and his body are caught up to to god which which is an idiom for the rapture then
01:02:50.860
the unbelieving jews are who was represented by a woman clothed in the sun she will be she will have
01:02:56.460
to flee to the wilderness which is basically the the desert and because she's being chased by the dragon
01:03:01.260
the the nakash satan but it says that the earth will protect her so what this is saying is that people
01:03:08.860
that that um the the jews who are being persecuted at this point will be put into a safe into a safe
01:03:15.740
area in the desert and they'll be gathered up and put into the safe place until the judgments have
01:03:21.820
passed and jesus comes to get them so this post-tribulation rapture they will be gathered together
01:03:27.260
because remember when in matthew 24 jesus is not talking to christians because christians don't exist yet
01:03:32.700
what is a christian a christian is someone who believes in the death resurrection and ascension
01:03:37.900
of jesus jesus hadn't died yet so you can't believe in something that hasn't happened these were
01:03:44.140
the in matthew 24 you have three jewish disciples asking jesus three very jewish questions and jesus
01:03:51.100
gives them a jewish answer so the rapture in matthew 24 he says i will gather up my elect that the elect
01:03:58.940
is a term for israel you will find throughout the old testament israel is called god's elect
01:04:04.780
and i will gather them together and protect them um from from the from satan so that they can
01:04:10.940
realize because when the antichrist sets himself up in the temple to be worshiped that's jesus says
01:04:16.140
when you see the abomination of desolation that's one of the titles of the antichrist in the temple
01:04:20.300
he tells he says flee the who are you who are in jerusalem talking to the jews flee to the mountains
01:04:25.980
because then you're going to because he can try to he's going to try to wipe you out so and then
01:04:30.220
that same passage when he says he's going to gather you together and and supernaturally so that the
01:04:36.700
last rapture is intended not for the church is intended for israel to keep them safe until armageddon
01:04:43.340
and the second coming have happened so so the purpose of the three raptures the first rapture is for the
01:04:48.940
believing watchful sanctified church the second rapture is for those who missed that and and for those who
01:04:54.700
were saved during the tribulation period and the final is for the jews to be supernaturally protected
01:05:00.860
i believe they're going to be in um in basra which is modern-day jordan maybe even in the um um petra
01:05:09.820
which is if you ever saw the indiana jones movies the the third one where um um that that area there
01:05:16.060
that's actually that's that might be where they are that's there's a lot of um theories about that but
01:05:20.780
it's for the jewish people to keep them safe and it possibly and if any christians are around who get
01:05:26.700
saved at the at that point they can make it to petra then they'll be protected as well
01:05:31.260
so the question again the question isn't which rapture is right which one do you want to be a part of
01:05:37.580
not the third huh i find it very hard to and maybe it's just because i don't have all of this
01:05:46.460
sort of baggage maybe um that a lot of other people have i find it hard to to see this and and
01:05:53.020
of course you know um i know that anyone's recommendation would be like read the bible and
01:05:58.460
and take the information and judge for yourself absolutely um but just from what i'm hearing i find
01:06:05.340
it hard to to to see it any other way because like you said there is clear scripture to back up all
01:06:12.460
three points of view and there is no scripture otherwise that says pre won't happen or post
01:06:19.660
won't happen it's only you know what i mean so i i just find it incredibly compelling and and difficult
01:06:26.620
to to see any other way but of course you know still right um read the bible like i said i didn't
01:06:34.380
believe it at first either and because like i have the baggage that you just talked about and as i said i had
01:06:39.980
to admit to myself that the reason i had difficulty accepting it was not because it didn't make sense
01:06:44.380
not because it wasn't biblical but because it would mean that the people i've been fighting against for
01:06:48.300
fighting against for all these years they're right too man that's that's why nobody's conceding
01:06:56.540
because you don't want because it's pride because those i mean there are people watching right now
01:07:00.380
listening right now who are mad who are saying you're wrong you you get but i want to ask you a
01:07:04.860
question why are you mad are you mad because i told you you're wrong because i didn't i told you
01:07:09.900
you're right no matter what i said this last week you're right in what you believe you're wrong and
01:07:14.140
what you deny if you believe in a meet a mid post or pre you're right i'm telling you right now you
01:07:19.500
are right but your opponent is also right to be honest the people that are mad if you're if you're mad
01:07:27.420
about uh what what ed is saying right now you're probably going to go second you guys yeah chill
01:07:34.380
out man you're only mad that you you don't have down syndrome and will not be this way on the first
01:07:39.660
go around not retarded enough yeah there appears wow wow okay man that's you know i've always just had
01:07:48.860
the feeling ever since i was a kid this is just a little sidebar but like yeah i was obsessed with
01:07:53.820
um when i was a kid i would have you know apocalyptic dreams for lack of a better way
01:07:59.260
of describing them and um that was a lot of the motivating factor to like look into this like
01:08:06.220
once i started hearing that there was not there was prophecy um that's what drove me plus you know
01:08:14.860
a bunch of other things but like that was always the main theme was like i just felt like i was going
01:08:20.380
to be part of the people that got to see the proverbial shit hit the fan and um and that
01:08:29.340
feeling is has never gone away and i just now as i'm listening i'm like oh okay that's probably
01:08:33.580
because i'm gonna be part of the second wave that makes a lot of sense i'm gonna see some
01:08:36.300
shit hopefully i i don't get to stick around to see uh uh you know demons crack open the earth and and
01:08:43.100
yeah you know where are uh our skin like suits and things of that nature that would be a bummer but
01:08:48.620
when when you said uh when this started you said that i i forget the language that you used ed but
01:08:54.860
it was um the dead rising and and um the parish will no longer be perishable or something of that
01:09:03.340
nature and there was a way that you described our our state of mortality in conjunction with that that
01:09:09.420
the living would it says our mortal must put on immortality and our perishable must put on
01:09:15.820
imperishable imperishability or something like that yeah um so can we i i'm what i'm interested in is
01:09:22.620
when can we once again go over like when is that supposed to happen and and what does that mean for
01:09:28.620
people that are um living that are not amongst the dead who are who are brought back so basically
01:09:35.180
what's going to happen is the people who are who are currently who are who died in christ like you know
01:09:39.020
people who from the from the time of the day after jesus you know went to heaven someone died all the
01:09:44.860
way up until you know yesterday excuse me like i'm sorry like my grandmother who was a very godly woman
01:09:51.660
you know she passed away um in 2012. she will be she will be given a new body the new body that we give
01:10:00.220
will be the same type of body that jesus had jesus is called jesus is called the first fruits of of our
01:10:06.700
resurrection and so we see what jesus's body was like because he was on earth for 40 days before he
01:10:13.180
ascended after his resurrection he was on and he we could see that he could he could enter a room
01:10:17.820
without using a a door he would just appear so he was he he he enjoyed more dimensions than we enjoy
01:10:26.300
but he was also physical he could eat and drink every time jesus showed up he ate which i like that it
01:10:31.980
tells me that you know in in eternity we're gonna have just gonna be food and drink which is you know for
01:10:35.500
someone like me who loves to eat and drink it's gonna be awesome is that but it's going to be
01:10:40.460
yeah is that possibly like the image of god like if we're made in the image of god sort of maybe uh
01:10:46.460
adam and eve were like that yes i believe i believe very strongly that that they were they
01:10:51.820
had that still similar types of bodies but they when they lost that when when they sinned they were
01:10:55.900
kind of confined to these purely physical bodies that we have so um so the question that people have
01:11:03.580
you might have it as well as well dave's like what are we going to look the same well yeah and this is
01:11:08.460
where you can bring in kind of the quote-unquote science of jurassic park what did they do then
01:11:13.340
they just got all they needed was like a chromosome and they could use that to replicate everything
01:11:18.780
the dna has all of your information so if you've been dead for hundreds of years you're gone you're dust
01:11:24.780
but all all you need is that blueprint which you know that still exists because matter you know can't be
01:11:30.140
created created or destroyed it just changes forms so i think that will look similar hopefully i'll be
01:11:35.500
a little more handsome but but i think hopefully i won't have shingles i would love to not have
01:11:42.540
shingles but actually we we spoke with the guy yesterday i think it was yesterday um and he was
01:11:48.700
talking about the covet vaccine and how that actually does change your dna and it's actually written in
01:11:53.580
your i forgot how he explained it but it's written in your dna and it overwrites the dna of god
01:11:58.780
and i was like that does suck yeah big if true right yeah that well that's what we talked about
01:12:07.580
the patent being the patent number zero six zero six zero six it's like oh okay that's cool figures
01:12:12.700
that's very cool well that's why i mean that's why i almost got banned off youtube because i said that
01:12:16.380
you know that i believe the market the beast is going to alter your dna i mentioned this before and i
01:12:21.980
and i said and i said that the technology exists because we have it with these mrna and that's why my
01:12:27.500
my video got kicked off of youtube and i got a strike against him because i i didn't say it was
01:12:30.860
a mark of the beast i just said it represented the technology but i guess that was too too close to
01:12:35.500
home for him too over the target yeah um yeah when we're talking about this whole getting our our new
01:12:43.420
bodies yeah um i'm reminded that of of you know basically uh to paraphrase a scripture because i don't
01:12:52.220
know it entirely that might not even be applicable uh so i'll let you tell me that but it says that
01:12:57.100
during those days men will uh seek death but will not find it and i'm going well is that because are we
01:13:06.860
going to be made this is i could be totally okay but are we going to be made immortal and will that be
01:13:14.700
like super cool but also like not when you're suffering on a grandiose scale and and want the
01:13:22.140
suffering to end but but physically you cannot be ended until the time is appointed yeah you brought
01:13:28.860
up one of the areas that i have the most trouble with and i've admitted before that there are some
01:13:33.820
areas where i don't have a full answer but this one i would i would not be concerned about this because
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when when whenever you are raptured you are you will no longer be on this earth
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so you don't have to worry about that now the now the people you're talking about who are
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this this is the uh the fifth trumpet where um they're these demonic locusts are released from the
01:13:55.100
bottomless bit the abuso from in the earth and they will they will torment men for five months it says men
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will seek to die they will not be able to and it's like how how is that possible how are you how how can
01:14:03.980
you want to die and not be able to die there what marzulli believes and and i i buy into this to a degree
01:14:12.460
that when your dna is altered you're going to be much more durable because i believe that the
01:14:16.460
altering of the dna is going it really gets into transhumanism and the desire because people are
01:14:22.780
going to take the mark of the beast in order to be like the antichrist and the antichrist is going
01:14:27.580
to quote unquote come back from the dead not really it's going to be a facade we'll talk about that
01:14:33.260
down the road but they'll want that same level of immortality so so it will alter their bodies but
01:14:38.940
what i also think it does is the only way that you can want to die and not die is if you're not in
01:14:46.060
control of your body if someone else is in control of your body i believe and i'm getting ahead of
01:14:52.540
myself and i is going to maybe raise more questions and answers because until until i get there but i
01:14:57.180
think that it alters i think that taking the mark of the beast will alter you to make you a vessel for
01:15:03.100
possession by a demon and a demon is the spirit of a dead nephilim that's why when you take the mark of
01:15:10.220
the beast you're no longer eligible for salvation because you cannot decide anymore the only way you
01:15:16.300
cannot if salvation is just choosing jesus well why would taking this mark make you not no longer
01:15:22.780
able to choose jesus if you're not in control anymore dang that makes a lot of sense there's
01:15:28.700
a movie on netflix i saw recently and it was interesting it's about uh somebody who can astral
01:15:32.780
project okay and uh the woman seems crazy the entire movie i'll just give you the whole plot
01:15:39.500
um and we're trying to figure out what's going on with her with the husband and uh there was a
01:15:44.140
point at the very end where she's showing her friend that she was in the mental institution with
01:15:49.500
how to astral how she does it and he does it with her and he actually switches bodies he goes into hers
01:15:56.300
and murders hers murder murders her so she is now stuck and he's in her body i forget the name
01:16:05.820
of it i'll i'll email you my wife put it on it was it was crazy it's a crazy concept but that's the
01:16:11.740
concept of possibly what the nephilim would want to do just a complete switch they can inhabit you
01:16:17.580
you'd be in this astral realm and you can't die the same way they're suffering they're just there
01:16:22.620
it's almost like you're a prisoner in your own mind yeah how is when you're if you're possessed by
01:16:27.660
by one of these things and you'll want to die but they're like i'm i'm not going because they want
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bodies that's why they try to possess you know the the nephilim they died in the flood and died
01:16:36.060
elsewhere but they cannot go to heaven or to hell they were doomed according to the book of enoch
01:16:41.500
the nephilim the spirits of the nephilim were doomed to roam the earth without bodies until the
01:16:46.620
time of the final judgment that's why they want to possess because they're used that's why they want
01:16:50.060
to possess people because they're used to having bodies and they want them again so if you possess
01:16:54.940
someone you're like i'm not giving up this body i don't care how much pain it's in
01:16:58.860
now the p the person who's riding in the back seat is like i want to die this hurts nephilim's like nope
01:17:03.740
no way you may want to die but i'm not letting you because i'm in control
01:17:09.100
so again my opinion uh little sidebar they say so so it's it's that's an ed maybriism
01:17:16.060
oh no i mean well could it could it also possibly be that the speed of light picks up again as we're
01:17:20.860
getting to this final judgment where god will be here i mean you know you spoke about it the first
01:17:29.180
time on the show like our consistency would be much more durable as like it seems like it's like we're
01:17:34.460
dropping off at a heavy rate and then maybe during the tribulation like like all right everything's
01:17:39.420
going to get a lot more physical a lot more crazy a lot more spiritual i've been going back and forth
01:17:43.340
with that because you brought it up you know when i was first on your show and i was i was um talking to
01:17:47.500
a friend of mine who didn't didn't even see the show but he and we were talking about the same
01:17:51.100
thing and he mentioned it as well maybe we're speed maybe it's speeding up so i'm like at first i was
01:17:55.100
like i don't know but i'm willing to to give it credence i mean it's very possible because when we
01:18:01.340
are in not we when when the tribulation i don't want to be here when it happens when the tribulation
01:18:05.740
happens it's going to be we're not going to be in the church age anymore the church is in the age of
01:18:10.300
grace right now when the tribulation happens we're going to actually go the world is going to go
01:18:15.740
back to the time of the law that's why there's going to be a temple and that's why the holy spirit
01:18:22.380
as he as he indwells christians is not going is going to be taken out of the way in second
01:18:27.740
second thessalonians talks about that he who restrains sin will restrain until he is taken out of
01:18:32.300
the way then the antichrist will come so the antichrist cannot appear until the holy spirit is taken out of
01:18:38.300
the way we're going to talk about that probably maybe a little bit more next week or the week
01:18:42.060
after but maybe next week so there's something hindering paul says that the spirit of the antichrist
01:18:48.220
is trying to come about people have this idea that that that the devil satan all the evil angels that
01:18:53.900
they're kind of like you know these villains and superhero movies where they're like you know they're
01:18:57.900
standing in their in their dark tower like sauron and lord of the rings you know twirling your mustache
01:19:02.860
saying you know good good my plan is slowly coming together no they're not waiting they want
01:19:07.980
they want to do their thing immediately they're being restrained they they've been wanting to do
01:19:13.740
this they they've been wanting to put up their antichrist and all this stuff since day one but
01:19:18.620
they're being restrained it's more like the the in greek mythology which you know the overlaps it's the
01:19:25.340
same story um but when the titans are locked in tartarus um and at one point hades frees them and as
01:19:34.300
soon as they're freed from from tartarus they immediately go and storm olympus yeah uh so
01:19:40.540
it's like you know maybe hades was on the sideline with the plan but it was the the the the titans
01:19:46.860
there they were their hands were tied they were changed exactly and that's and that's what the
01:19:52.060
four horsemen is all about again getting ahead of myself but that's what i the four horsemen that
01:19:56.460
whole scenario is the holy spirit's taken out of the way and finally for the first time the evil elohim
01:20:02.220
have free reign and that's and and that's when they're gonna go nuts and when and yeah so when
01:20:11.500
when that happens i'm kind of getting the chop i forgot how i got to that point but um um they're
01:20:17.980
going to have unrestricted access for the first time to do everything they want to do so though
01:20:22.220
so they will you know they're just gonna they're gonna do their thing and they'll have that's that's
01:20:27.260
when humanity will have their they have to make their hard decision who am i going to go with
01:20:33.900
and this is at the end this is after the um the the midway the whisking up of the 144 000. oh no this
01:20:42.540
is the beginning there yeah they'll be they're going to the because when when the church is taken out in the
01:20:50.540
rapture that is when the holy spirit has he indwells the church is taken out and the the first three and
01:20:57.660
a half years are going to be bad but not terrible not as bad as the last three and a half years why
01:21:01.980
because what do the what do satan the fallen angels want they want to be god they're going to try to
01:21:08.940
bring about what they consider a paradise this the one world government that's what they're going to be
01:21:15.980
doing the first three and a half years is setting up their one world government as their alternative
01:21:20.540
to god's plan so again it's it's going so it's going to be rough especially if you're if you're
01:21:28.460
a believer but it's not going to be as bad they're going to come up with their solution they'll have
01:21:32.380
their one world government they'll you know what's the old jo the georgia guidestones which i get they
01:21:36.700
were destroyed a little a while back but you know they're going to want to reduce the population they're
01:21:40.940
going to want to um they're going to want to rule in in in their image so they're going to want to
01:21:47.500
establish this world government that that they've been planning that they've been trying to bring
01:21:50.780
about forever they just haven't been able to because the holy spirit has been restraining them
01:21:55.020
but that restraint is going to be over so now they will finally be able to set up their one that's one
01:21:59.740
world government that they've been trying to set up since eats and you know since since babel frankly
01:22:04.860
you know it when you when you talk about the three and a half years it makes me think about like our
01:22:11.420
political cycle being four years and if you pay attention it's really more like three or three
01:22:16.460
and a half because towards the end and a little bit of the beginning there's not much going on and
01:22:22.140
then there's three years of a lot of movement three and a half years of something and that's probably
01:22:27.820
when this will tell me well 2024 here we are yeah no you're right yeah because the last six months
01:22:34.700
it's really just about you know jockeying for position and you know change over of power or
01:22:39.260
that sort of thing yeah getting re-elected yeah it's uh man yeah so we're going to talk about a lot
01:22:51.980
more of this stuff yeah as we go along but yeah but this was you know so this is the whole rapture thing
01:22:57.020
and this and it's really about the church because after the after the church agents oh that's right
01:23:02.780
that's where i was going with it we're going to go back to you know the time of the law
01:23:07.100
and during the time of the law the holy spirit isn't isn't indwelling people the holy spirit will
01:23:11.980
still be active but there'll still be people saved but it'll be like in the old testament where the
01:23:15.660
holy spirit will come and go whereas right now he's in completely in the world through and operating
01:23:26.860
so though that's why the sacrifices will be back that's why the temple will
01:23:30.060
suppose it's supposed to be rebuilt and yeah it's going to be it's going to be basically it's going
01:23:35.340
to be old testament times that's when nephilim are going to be back we're going to talk about them
01:23:40.860
you know so it's going to be a lot like the old testament and people are not it's going to be a lot
01:23:44.860
of supernatural stuff happening and people are not ready for that it's it's going it's going to be
01:23:49.900
crazy between today's episode and yesterday's episode i feel like uh i don't know i don't know what
01:23:58.380
this is a very unique position for me to be in because um it was like when i
01:24:05.980
turned to scripture and said that the biblical lens is the appropriate lens through which to see
01:24:13.340
the world i simultaneously started that journey of of moving in that direction and beginning to
01:24:22.220
understand scripture on on camera and that so this entire thing you know i don't know how how many
01:24:31.180
episodes we are by the way top i have to go back and slap numbers on them because we've gotten so lost
01:24:35.580
in the sauce here but we're like you know probably 40 episodes in and
01:24:45.900
i i just i i want to remind the audience that i am learning about the bible i'm a conspiracy theorist
01:24:52.540
who is conceded that the bible is the truth and i'm learning about it i'm like all right it's time
01:24:59.260
to take a deep dive in it and i'm doing that live on camera and as this progresses i i i just hope that
01:25:07.340
there are people in the audience that are like me who also had that feeling for all these years but
01:25:13.100
was too stupid to to make the time for it and it's not it's not stupid it's i think the world because
01:25:22.540
me as a christian my whole life or most of my life the world has done a really good job at clowning
01:25:28.700
it and making it look foolish and i bought that for a long time until they became too clownish and the
01:25:35.580
mask fell off and then you go ah you know my father was was right and i when i when i made fun
01:25:42.140
of him or when i debated him in this way it was foolish and actually it says it in the bible so
01:25:48.140
you idiot well you know yeah i used to be ashamed like you know evolution i'd be ashamed
01:25:55.100
but anyone would bring up evolution i'm like oh i better i better cringe i don't you know i don't
01:25:58.140
want to say anything because evolution is science and i i believe in this creation thing but now i'm
01:26:02.220
like wait a minute then i studied evolution i'm like this is stupid are you kidding me this is the
01:26:06.700
dumbest thing how could you possibly believe this nonsense and consider yourself intelligent
01:26:11.580
so no i yeah so well saying for for me it's like i've i've always been unhinged and always willing
01:26:18.460
to entertain things that nobody else was willing to entertain as far as like conspiracy theories and
01:26:23.420
stuff but imagine it's like i have this table this really big table in front of me all of my life
01:26:28.940
filled with all these insane elements of like occultic crap and and hollywood symbolism and you know
01:26:36.380
fema camps new world order alex jones there's a tiny alex jones on my table screaming
01:26:41.580
all the time and i keep pushing them in the corner and i'm trying to focus and on the other
01:26:46.140
side the bible's always been there and it's been collecting dust but i never would remove it i never
01:26:53.100
took it off the table i would see things as i'm taking these all these elements and i'm painting
01:26:58.300
this giant picture and i'd see something in the picture and i'd look over to the bible and be like
01:27:03.340
huh all right and that's what i would do and that's what i mean by the stupidity is like that was
01:27:08.700
over and over again where like i've always had this gut feeling like my intuition was screaming
01:27:14.060
or god was nudging me constantly like hey dummy look could you look could you would you look and
01:27:20.540
i guess i'm i'm happy that i didn't because i get to do this in real time i think i think my
01:27:26.540
naivety is part of the charm of this show is like i get to be a liaison for other people that were like
01:27:33.420
me that that um were just noticers but for some reason and maybe you're right maybe what you guys
01:27:39.980
are saying right how how this clown world has consistently dunked on christianity maybe it was
01:27:45.020
never hard enough for me to dismiss it but maybe it was enough for me to not blow the dust off and
01:27:50.860
drag it over and finally start flipping through it so yeah i love that you're on the show i mean this is
01:27:57.020
all i mean it's such a great juxtaposition to have someone who's you know who people have been christians
01:28:02.780
for a long time and then one who's who's coming aboard i mean the fact that what you just said
01:28:07.180
like you know i don't have all that baggage so i don't have the i don't have to worry about you know
01:28:11.660
uh having my having my camp be overturned you know my my theories because you didn't have any to begin
01:28:17.740
with so you're coming at it with a clean slate in some ways i envy you because you you know you don't
01:28:22.140
have all that baggage to sit through you don't have all this religious you know all this christianese
01:28:28.060
that you have to worry about yeah i mean i've also managed to push away everybody who was close
01:28:33.980
to me with crazy stuff before like one day they're gonna turn the walmart's into fema camps
01:28:38.860
and people were like all right dude i don't know what you're talking about uh so now it's just me
01:28:43.020
on this island in in silence able to look through all my my giant table filled with crazy crap so
01:28:49.180
i mean it's nice but the ability the ability for us to be social pariahs and like i i wasn't i wasn't
01:28:57.260
okay with that before like a you know i don't know maybe 10 10 years ago i was not all right with
01:29:03.660
that i needed society not just to function like even monetarily but like for my own sanity because
01:29:10.140
i didn't know who i was i had no clue who i was at this point in my life i feel like i know who i am
01:29:15.980
and i know who i am even better every day and i'm also willing to like go and touch that third rail
01:29:21.660
and it being a conspiracy theorist also helps me because like like we mentioned at the top of the
01:29:29.260
show there's a lot of there's a lot of christians that can't get into they can't understand that
01:29:33.260
spiritual side or the conspiracy side because they are in the bible so we have this unique we were able
01:29:39.100
to like actually step back from it and recollect everything it's like i'm i guess i'm in a unique
01:29:44.220
position thank god that i'm in that position and i'm not shoehorned into one side or the other
01:29:49.820
so now i'm kind of able to see the entire picture you know the the way that i'm one i just gotta i
01:29:56.140
probably never say it um because it's gross and it's very gay but like i'm very grateful that i
01:30:02.780
linked up with top at the time that i did it's very gay but because i set out to do a show
01:30:11.180
and and i when i set out to do my show the raven's watch i was i had my conviction i was like okay the
01:30:19.340
biblical lens is correct but i i it was like you were about to watch a dude run full speed ahead
01:30:26.700
with this narrative who had no idea and and it was almost like top unbeknownst to him was like come
01:30:32.460
here i got i have a background in this we'll go and do this shit together um because i i don't know i
01:30:41.340
don't know how this would have went my journey would have been slow going i was interviewing people about
01:30:45.340
the um set you know the black cube of saturn and and all that other stuff but this like really
01:30:52.620
pivoted me and and emboldened me to move in this direction and uh and i had a conversation just today
01:30:58.540
with somebody that said i posted a video of a cow uh sucking off a dude not my proudest moment
01:31:06.940
not my proudest moment and i said hey it's just the guy from the gas station that was putting the the
01:31:12.940
diesel in his butt he just can't seem to be left alone and somebody said hey aren't you a christian
01:31:18.140
or was that that top lobster guy that's what they actually said to me and i said and i was trying to
01:31:22.940
be genuine i said christian is a very loaded term i believe that jesus christ came died for our sins
01:31:31.900
overcame death and that the bible is the uh correct lens through which to see the world but also
01:31:39.500
i'm retarded and i think that this video of this cow sucking this dude's dick is very funny and i
01:31:44.700
don't know like that is like a really that's why i'm gonna be in the second wave because god's gonna
01:31:50.780
be like yeah you thought it was funny huh you thought it was real funny you made me if you made me like
01:31:56.060
this but like objectively that's hilarious have you seen the video of the dude at the gas station it's
01:32:01.740
crazy there's so many aspects so many layers to this i'm not gonna lie i say i have it like left
01:32:05.980
after some like insane stuff so it's a you know it doesn't it didn't say you have to be you know you
01:32:11.100
accept jesus and then lose your sense of humor that right that wasn't part of the deal that that's
01:32:14.940
what i'm saying like they say like do you accept jesus as your lord and savior yes and then they go
01:32:19.500
and they hold this thing up and they go don't laugh don't laugh like i'm gonna fail that test
01:32:23.900
every time dude every time the good news is that's not part of the test
01:32:28.460
that on that happy note i'm actually i'm gonna need to run uh um in a sec but i do want to just um
01:32:36.540
kind of just maybe get like a quick preview i'm like what we're gonna maybe cover next time
01:32:41.580
because i gotta head up against my kids are out of school yeah yeah let's do it no problem so yeah so
01:32:45.980
now we've got through all the church parts now we're heading to like the future you know chapter four
01:32:50.620
on it's a chapter four and five we're we go from earth to heaven to the throne room of god
01:32:55.980
and we're going to get a there's some really interesting things we're going to see there
01:33:00.060
um it's you know the scroll that's actually the title deed to the earth and what has and what
01:33:04.460
that has to do with what happens next with revelation and and what with um and jesus's
01:33:09.420
inheritance who has as he inherits the earth and how that gets into the four horsemen so i think we'll
01:33:14.460
probably get through the the the heavenly scene the throne room the end of the trial i think top you
01:33:20.860
brought up the an idea of a trial a couple episodes ago and and i talked about a little bit we're
01:33:25.900
going to see the conclusion of the trial of the ages that began um in in the book of daniel the
01:33:31.740
conclusion of it and then we'll probably get into maybe the breaking of the seals and talk about a
01:33:36.780
little bit about the four horsemen we might not get to that because the four horsemen that's a huge
01:33:40.380
thing i think a lot of i have a just like with the rapture i have a very different um idea of what the
01:33:45.660
four horsemen are than classic that then is then it's classically taught by people who who are who
01:33:51.500
study the book of revelation awesome dude it's it's funny because i have a peripheral knowledge of
01:33:57.500
all this but every time i hear what's coming up in the next episode it's still i'm like oh the four
01:34:01.820
horsemen the rapture the the you know the the the churches the synagogue of satan like every episode
01:34:07.820
it's it's a short book we talked about that but it's like full of bangers it's layered it's
01:34:14.140
is way layered so yeah i'm excited that's why i did i did 60 episodes on it so yeah
01:34:20.300
friday is quickly becoming my favorite day of the week for obvious reasons but now for new reasons so
01:34:24.860
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01:34:32.140
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01:34:38.940
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01:34:43.580
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01:34:48.780
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01:34:53.820
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01:35:10.300
so you missed the rapture what to do next yes yeah there you go next five steps and thank you
01:35:15.500
for spending the time with us um thank you so much dude we'll see you guys next week peace out
01:35:22.220
the greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room
01:35:28.060
it is constantly telling us what to believe is real you can persuade them that what they see with
01:35:34.940
their eyes is what there is to see because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the
01:35:42.940
bigger picture of what's happening and they have