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00:00:00.000 and welcome to end of the world news today's guests are top lobster and raven in no particular

00:00:09.680 order of the nephilim death squad how are you boys doing today what's up brother thanks for

00:00:15.040 having us man always a pleasure doing great doing better to see ben now right yeah it's always nice

00:00:19.540 to see ben dude as of you guys as of you guys man you guys been killing it on x and on your

00:00:25.640 podcast, uh, breaking down Epstein, Albarino, all that type of stuff. So, uh, maybe, uh, tell

00:00:33.720 our audience who you guys are, how you guys got to this point and, uh, where they can find you.

00:00:39.820 Well, um, all right. So how do we unpack that? We are a Nephilim death squad. It's a Christian

00:00:45.020 conspiracy podcast with a lot of humor, a lot of comedy. And, uh, I actually think that's maybe

00:00:51.260 our most useful tool um probably our only tool probably our only tool yeah but how we got here

00:00:56.860 i mean man we just um you know what i'm gonna go ahead and say that it was because of of merkel's

00:01:03.740 podcast actually we both had a a fascination with uh supernatural testimony and we found each other

00:01:10.520 on that platform one thing led to another we decided to take a crack at uh starting a show

00:01:15.200 together turns out it worked really well so now uh two and a half years of nephilim death squad

00:01:21.540 and uh yeah it's and it's grand scheme of things when are we uh when are we like tied in for our

00:01:26.800 pension uh i don't think that's like a pension no pension i was a little bit under the weather

00:01:31.140 recently and i was like uh health care we don't have that we don't have that so yeah we do this

00:01:36.880 full time and uh no benefits i mean our benefits are in heaven our benefits are in heaven there we

00:01:44.280 go yeah there we go right star your riches in heaven that's what you gotta do yes yes yes um

00:01:48.900 but yeah you can find us anywhere you find podcasts uh nephilim death squad i think we

00:01:52.300 can do nephilim death squad.com little kind of link tree thing we'll show you everything yeah

00:01:55.760 yeah you could follow us on top lobster.com as well that's where we all sell our merch and then

00:02:00.260 you could keep up keep up with what we're doing lately like uh our bohemian grove tickets will be

00:02:05.160 on there yes um i guess that's how we started the show before that i was a graphic designer

00:02:09.980 always liked conspiracy was a christian um a lot delving a lot into comedy and uh this show kind of

00:02:18.520 took me out of it in a very graceful and sudden way well i wouldn't say took you out completely

00:02:23.360 i mean we probably still like how we took out a lot of christians um and god bless them but they

00:02:28.640 don't they look at us often a lot of people get it the show's doing very well because of that

00:02:33.120 but there are a lot of people um who don't get it who think that the the addition of humor into

00:02:39.860 this is distasteful and poorly representative of Christ. I tend to say that, you know, I don't

00:02:48.200 agree with that. I tend to agree. Well, sometimes we cross the line. Yeah, I watch the show and I

00:02:52.700 go, they have a point. They have a point. Yeah. But it's a tool that we use because I think that

00:02:57.120 in the pursuit of truth, comedy does a great job of making the pill a little bit easier to swallow.

00:03:02.940 It makes the conversation a little bit easier to have. And so that's really our goal with it.

00:03:09.580 sometimes it's it's not really pointed though sometimes it just happens we're just in chaotic

00:03:14.440 comedy and um and so i can't say that that's the case all the time but yeah um also we we're doing

00:03:20.200 a our show here this is just for anybody who's in the florida area if you hear this you want to come

00:03:25.680 by uh we are at the standard coffee shop slash nbs studios slash casino slash casino slash

00:03:32.240 fabrication shop christian library uh christian library that's right um in lady lake florida so

00:03:38.020 if you're in that area if you're in lady lake florida and uh it's a weird thing ben you actually

00:03:43.060 saw the last episode that we did with you we had a gentleman come all the way from indiana said the

00:03:48.180 holy spirit compelled him to come down here uh thousands of miles comes down um you know we we

00:03:54.500 we share a prayer together but he um he came just to share this message of like keep doing what

00:03:59.780 you're doing so as risky as it sounds to tell people that we're here at the standard coffee

00:04:04.260 shop and invite people to come by, I think that it opens up the door for God to do pretty

00:04:10.240 remarkable things.

00:04:12.300 And like I said, you saw a little bit of that last time we spoke.

00:04:14.440 Yeah, that was awesome.

00:04:16.380 Literally, that guy just came.

00:04:17.480 He's like, the Holy Spirit led me.

00:04:19.420 Your podcast has strengthened my relationship with Christ.

00:04:23.260 And ultimately, I think that's what we do it for, right?

00:04:25.560 We want to live.

00:04:26.300 We want to survive.

00:04:27.200 But we are truly doing God's work.

00:04:29.720 And we'll fall and we'll stumble.

00:04:30.840 We might go out of bounds sometimes.

00:04:32.220 I know I certainly do.

00:04:33.400 but i think our hearts are pure i guess i have a question for both of you

00:04:36.720 has before we get started we're getting into the epstein stuff we're going to get into

00:04:40.800 the telepathy tapes we're going to get into tim alvarino but i guess

00:04:44.280 as you guys so i know top you said that you were always a christian i know raven you came to

00:04:49.080 christianity um how is diving into conspiracies diving into the supernatural reshaped or viewed

00:04:57.660 how you viewed your relationship with god most high and jesus our messiah

00:05:01.680 um you want to go first or me um i'll take a crack at it so you know i was in conspiracy for

00:05:09.840 a long time i think god gave me uh discernment at a really young age so i was probably 16 years

00:05:16.940 old when i started to become assured in the idea that the narrative the official narrative was not

00:05:23.360 how the world actually is. And, and I spent, you know, I'm 36 now or 35 now. So it's been

00:05:31.340 just about 20 years, my walk with Christ in a, in a definitive way where I've oriented towards

00:05:38.020 him and started moving towards him has only been about maybe three and a half, four years,

00:05:42.780 maybe I might even be overestimating that a little bit. So the way that it's, it's shaped

00:05:48.180 my my walk with God my relationship with God is I always believed that there was a God

00:05:54.080 I never saw fit to define him when I was younger I kind of rested on that idea I was I don't know

00:06:00.300 if agnostic is the right word but I would say that I didn't know um I was obsessed with gathering

00:06:05.740 information which to some degree I've realized now that that's a little bit of a fool's errand

00:06:11.340 I mean you should try to understand but you also have to be comfortable with there's so much you're

00:06:16.380 not going to understand. And seeing as how I didn't have the information, I would say, yes,

00:06:21.520 I believe that there's a God, but how can I say that one religion has it right versus another

00:06:27.360 religion? And I was there for a really long time. And it wasn't until I had my own experience. I

00:06:34.540 had had a number of experiences before, supernatural experiences, kind of run-of-the-mill

00:06:39.760 stuff you know shadow people and and uh disembodied voice from time to time um sleep paralysis things

00:06:47.340 like that is a lot of common things that people are have experienced and it wasn't until I had

00:06:53.620 one I was I was a husband and a father by this time in my real early 30s um yeah it might have

00:07:02.200 been 30 30 on the dot and uh we I saw something I and it's a long story so I'm not going to get

00:07:08.900 too much into it but i saw an entity um that had been screwing with me for the better part of four

00:07:15.980 nights and i kept it to myself because i didn't want to startle my wife and i kept it to myself

00:07:21.640 because i didn't want my son you know he was really young maybe four or five i did not want

00:07:27.460 him to hear it you know you're never going to get any sleep if you're if your kid's afraid to go to

00:07:32.020 sleep so eventually it came to to pass that my wife would say she saw this thing and she described

00:07:38.700 it to me and i'm going i i hadn't even told her about this and then i still kept it to myself and

00:07:46.020 one night later one morning later my son would wake up from a a night terror and once we finally

00:07:52.080 consoled him and he described what he was seeing he described the same entity so so for the first

00:07:57.500 time in my life you know it wasn't new in the sense of the supernatural but it was new in the

00:08:03.040 sense that it was happening to more than just me and i felt all these compulsions as a husband and

00:08:07.180 as a father. And I was desperate. And I wanted it to stop. I wanted to protect my family. So for the

00:08:12.380 first time in my life, I prayed to Jesus Christ, stopped on a dime. And that moment was the first

00:08:18.180 moment that I decided to orient towards Christianity wasn't all at once. It was kind of a slow path

00:08:23.440 in the beginning. And now I would say what started off as a slow run, we're now sprinting. But

00:08:29.400 i um i had all this conspiracy knowledge that i had gathered at that point would have been 15 years

00:08:38.360 and i had always looked at christianity as as you know some piece of the puzzle but because

00:08:46.600 you know western culture tells us to kind of dismiss it and it's a little bit cringy even

00:08:51.580 right uh we've done a number here in the west of making christianity cringy we stripped it of some

00:08:56.160 of its more um profound elements and giving people a watered down version and um so now that i decided

00:09:04.220 to put this lens in the center of my worldview and start looking towards it i felt like a loyalty to

00:09:08.940 god because you know he had saved me in this moment and i wasn't going to um become skeptical

00:09:16.560 when times were easy that felt wrong right he came to me in this desperate time of need

00:09:21.800 and and he and he stops this phenomenon and then what when when i'm not beset upon by a greasy

00:09:28.240 demon i should go well how how valid is this really so i never did that i always went with

00:09:33.840 this okay if this is real then let's see how this applies and brother from like that day

00:09:39.280 every conspiracy that i had that passed through that lens made more sense than it previously did

00:09:45.860 before and it just continued and continued and i would never be where i am right now on this show

00:09:50.420 if at any point that lens failed me it never failed me it just kept yielding good fruit

00:09:56.540 over and over again until i decided to start a show um and then shortly after that show

00:10:02.920 it's called the raven's watch i meet top we start nephlin death squad this whole thing is built on

00:10:07.680 that foundation and it just keeps bearing good fruit keeps bearing good fruit now it's it's the

00:10:13.920 centerpiece jesus christ is the centerpiece the lens that i i refuse to remove it now it's it's

00:10:19.220 been I've been in this for a long time. And it's, I've seen a lot of people go, well, what about

00:10:25.760 this? And what about the new age? And what about Gnosticism? And what about Jesus being a Jewish

00:10:30.020 psyop and all this other stuff? I'm like, brother, I went through all of that. And this is where I

00:10:34.620 came. And there's no way that I can share that experience with you and make you believe that.

00:10:38.360 But you're not going to talk me down off of it. I've been through all that crap. And now I'm

00:10:43.140 realizing like, Oh, in my own, uh, you know, grand understanding of things, I was incredibly wrong.

00:10:50.960 And that's awesome. I've actually got to witness this like firsthand with the progression of your

00:10:57.640 show. And you really went through all these different stages and it ultimately led you to

00:11:02.620 Christ. And I think God is using you right now for everybody else is going through these stages.

00:11:07.340 So you can actually point to the truth. Now I know top, you were a Christian to start with

00:11:11.780 you're a raised Christian, uh, how did conspiracy or how did the supernatural change your view of

00:11:17.840 what your view of Christianity is now, or at least your relationship with God and Jesus?

00:11:23.260 Uh, I'd say almost completely. Um, so I grew up in, uh, in church, I kind of like, you know,

00:11:30.180 the same, the same as many people kind of forced to go. And, uh, I didn't, I didn't just, I didn't

00:11:36.900 gel with it because the way I am, I like to, I like to make waves and I like to ask questions

00:11:41.680 and I like to have, have common sense answers. I did have like one Bible study teacher, probably

00:11:47.860 that, uh, kind of set me on this path as far as like, like with, with the good grounding in

00:11:54.140 eschatology and other biblical knowledge that I, that I actually held onto all the way through

00:11:58.940 this walk, but, um, ended up rejecting in my opinion, I rejected the church at a young age

00:12:06.560 because of the pastorship, how it was teaching my parents. It was splitting apart the family unit,

00:12:12.880 not my immediate family, but I'm Puerto Rican. So we got a lot of family. And I just think bad

00:12:19.060 pastorship started there. And I started to have questions about this church.

00:12:26.480 I was given the opportunity to continue going or stop going when I was like 16. I was like,

00:12:31.080 no way I'm going back. So I stopped with that church. My parents went to a new church. I ended

00:12:36.080 up going there, meeting my wife. And I, you know, it's like, it's always part of this weird journey.

00:12:40.880 Um, but I said, you know, I'm not going to do that. I didn't, I didn't really want to do that,

00:12:45.020 but I went back, met my wife, played a guitar there for many years, ended up getting my membership

00:12:51.120 banned for calling out corruption. And again, said not going to ever come back. And I was like

00:12:58.180 really burned. And as I'm leaving that church, uh, one of the elders, I guess, you know, it's

00:13:05.600 like it's fairly common at the end of a service, you go up and they pray. And I was at the altar

00:13:10.540 for some reason, probably playing. And she came up to me and started praying over me and told

00:13:14.660 and prophesied that like, you're going to speak to millions of people. You're going to give your

00:13:17.900 testimony to millions of people. And, uh, you know, like you're going to it, the way she's

00:13:23.980 describing, like preach for God. And I was like, there's no way there's no way. Yeah. Yeah. But

00:13:30.560 it's funny because nobody knew at that time that I was already out. Like I was out of the church,

00:13:35.480 Just me and the pastor were the only ones who knew. I had called him out for something. He did not like it. Then I got disrespectful with him. He took away my membership, which is just very bizarre when you really think about the idea of membership in a church.

00:13:49.400 um but that's like a soft way of kicking you out and i got the message but i still had duties to

00:13:55.180 fulfill like i had a whole band and i was like doing the transcriptions for the music and helping

00:13:59.860 the audio and all this so i was like i'm gonna go and do this until they have like an easy ramp off

00:14:05.080 but i i was not gonna be there anymore and that was the time period where the lady came up to me

00:14:09.480 and told me that i was like you couldn't be more wrong but i smiled in her face and i said yeah

00:14:12.800 cool and everything in my life after that was um this sitting in the back of my head

00:14:19.380 like understanding it and believing what she said but saying i'm gonna i'm not gonna do that i'm

00:14:26.620 gonna do everything else but that not gonna go back to the church we're not gonna aim i'm not

00:14:32.620 gonna we won't even mention god but that's always like like been my orientation because i don't

00:14:38.860 think I don't think that people in a church can really take you take your your faith they can

00:14:45.460 they can spin you around and turn you upside down and you don't know where you're at but there's

00:14:49.940 still something there's still that home base that was always there for me and uh that's kind of what

00:14:55.400 happened and I was doing whatever comedy I was doing never anything crazy never into drugs never

00:15:01.560 into doing it like not like a bad person but we touched the boundaries of what what was allowed

00:15:07.040 in in polite society and i feel like that was that was important for me to do and it was important

00:15:13.800 for my journey right because if i remained in the church and i remained obeying the rules obey like

00:15:21.340 doing what we're supposed to do like kind of what like you know we're we're straightening out a

00:15:26.100 little bit more with with the show and all that stuff now where we're not getting too crazy but

00:15:31.180 i had to i had to go out there and really touch the lines in order to be like be you have to be

00:15:37.940 dangerous you have to actually be dangerous you you can't just feign it you can't just act like

00:15:43.540 okay when the time comes i will do x y's it's like you don't know you don't know until like

00:15:47.980 that person has approached you and you've told them in no uncertain terms f you that's like a

00:15:53.000 muscle and we exercise that muscle a lot. Now God kind of called us back into this weird thing

00:16:02.520 that we're doing now where we're, we're talking to people and we're aiming them at Christ, but

00:16:08.440 he's, he's called, well, I'm just going to speak for myself. He called a really a dude that was

00:16:13.640 like doing dangerous stuff, not dangerous, like physical danger, but like stuff that will get

00:16:20.420 that people who are the toughest dudes I know, they'll shut up and they will not question

00:16:25.820 authority. They will not say a thing. They'll fight you. But what is a fight? A fight is,

00:16:31.360 you know, everybody's been punched in the face, or at least I hope everyone's been punched in

00:16:34.460 the face. You should if you haven't. But when the time comes for them to make this actual brave

00:16:39.680 decision, when there's tyranny or when there's somebody telling you that you must do a thing,

00:16:44.800 whether it's the government or I don't know, maybe the Antichrist coming soon,

00:16:48.640 you've never even practiced that muscle i have i have i've done it in a in a weird way that

00:16:55.060 most christians when they look at it they go oh this person's distasteful right like go back and

00:17:01.000 watch some tower gang this person's distasteful the entire time on tower gang i've been saying

00:17:05.040 everything that they said you're not supposed to i've been exercising that and i'm saying you know

00:17:10.780 i i know i understand it and in polite society in regular life i'm not just going to go ahead and do

00:17:16.600 this but we're going to exercise this muscle as a matter of fact we'll do it in public so that way

00:17:21.260 it's on record and everybody can see it i'm not afraid to do these things and that's a very

00:17:25.960 important muscle i think i i hope that when when the time comes and we're presented with these

00:17:32.320 deceptions with these deals with these contracts that we're all going to be presented with

00:17:36.820 eventually i'll have the wherewithal or at least the the guts to say no and that's kind of what

00:17:43.820 my my spiritual walk has been but as far as like the supernatural since doing this show

00:17:52.360 the bible makes uh a thousand percent more sense talking to the people like talking to people like

00:17:58.720 you talking to other people like gary wayne's like timothy alberino people like that they really

00:18:02.720 open up this uh this door of understanding to the bible like especially the old testament i used to

00:18:08.940 love the new testament especially the book of revelation that's my jam but the old testament

00:18:12.660 besides Daniel and I mean like the first five books I'm like I don't know what this is about

00:18:18.100 you read and you go this is crazy it's a completely foreign language it's a time period I'm not aware

00:18:25.200 of what are they talking about why are they so strict why is God just murking people left and

00:18:30.500 right what's happening zero context for like 30 years of my life and then finally we're given a

00:18:37.360 drop of context and you go, Oh, huh. Under that lens, I could understand this. And under that

00:18:43.840 lens, you could also, you could also understand God. And when you understand God, I mean, not,

00:18:49.480 not that we'll ever truly understand exactly what he is, but when you understand his personality

00:18:55.200 and Ed Mabry does a great job, like he is always just point blank period. If it's not just and

00:19:01.540 righteous, this is not the, this is not the personality of God. You know, it's not coming

00:19:05.540 from them. You can throw this out. This doesn't fit with your narrative. So the Old Testament

00:19:11.100 with the concept of Nephilim or these supernatural ideas, and you see what God has done,

00:19:18.920 especially with the flood, you're going, well, God's always just. He has to do what's always

00:19:24.220 right. He wouldn't just do this for no reason. It's not like it's not necessarily just the sins

00:19:29.920 of man which is probably part of it but there are other things that open up the the floodgates for

00:19:37.140 me to really understand and have a better relationship with god because if you look at

00:19:41.340 him as as and you should have fear of god you should fear him obviously yeah but if you look

00:19:46.100 at him like he like a tyrant who doesn't make sense yeah yeah if he's a tyrant then he also

00:19:51.180 he also can't be that bastion of free will you know like he can't be he can't be the guy that

00:19:56.820 goes I gave this sister a word over you that you're going to do this thing in another 15 years

00:20:03.520 right and I do my best I mean maybe he is a tyrant because I did my best to go against it and here I

00:20:10.260 am anyway but it's it's more like a promise it's like I look at it now like oh no you waited for

00:20:14.980 me rather than you forced me into this no no I had to choose to do that thing I had to come back

00:20:19.880 onto this path and come all the way back here the hard way to be who I am and understand that it's

00:20:25.320 Like all of that, all of that under the supernatural lens, I wouldn't be able to understand that.

00:20:30.320 I wouldn't be able to stay on God or my walk with him.

00:20:32.520 And I think I think that just make you bitter.

00:20:34.560 I think that would make me an angry person because you wouldn't really know which way you were headed.

00:20:40.440 Yeah. You said something interesting.

00:20:42.080 You said it made my relationship with God better.

00:20:45.560 And one thing I've noticed talking to people who either raise in the church and then they rethink their faith when they're offered new stuff, really reexamine it.

00:20:53.880 or those atheists that choose God for the first time, it does lead to a stronger conviction

00:21:01.420 because we're making that choice over again, right? We're recommitting our life to the Lord.

00:21:07.940 So yeah, that's awesome stories for both of you. Well, let's get into the topics.

00:21:13.940 Let's talk about the elephant in the room, Epstein. It's funny, in the past when I was

00:21:20.480 doing a podcast, I was like, you're not going to see him. You're not going to see him.

00:21:23.880 But when you do, if you do, that's going to be like the final sledgehammer to the system.

00:21:30.460 And you better get ready when the elites expose themselves.

00:21:36.080 Because the question is, why are they exposing themselves?

00:21:39.120 And once again, Raven, you talked about it, about the JQ question, about it being AstroTurf.

00:21:45.880 So what do you think is going on with these Epstein files?

00:21:48.720 Why do you think they were released?

00:21:50.120 And we'll go from there.

00:21:51.000 i i share a really similar sentiment to you ben right where um i was saying for a while it wasn't

00:21:59.360 like i immediately picked up on this but after some time after the events of 2019 2020 um and

00:22:05.640 the epstein thing got put on the back burner and then fast forward a couple of years twitter gets

00:22:10.080 taken over by elon and i can see the astroturfing beginning and i was i was taking part in it right

00:22:15.900 because it was liberating to have a social media platform where you weren't immediately getting

00:22:19.180 dinged for expressing any of these ideas. Yeah, we went a little, we went a little crazy. We went

00:22:23.780 a little crazy. Yeah. With the freedom. And I think you're going hard. Yeah. I think guys like

00:22:28.820 us actually, um, kind of laid the fertile ground that we're in right now. So, so admittedly, I

00:22:36.000 guess I played into the hand. Um, and it's kind of the pressure cooker effect. I think when you

00:22:40.480 suppress speech, um, it doesn't just go away. It just builds up pressure until finally there's a

00:22:45.560 release and the valve and then you know it all comes pouring out so i gave into that that feeling

00:22:52.200 of having my speech suppressed for so long and then of course starting the show and and finding

00:22:57.560 success the initial success that nephilim death squad found was because of our dialogue on twitter

00:23:01.400 which wasn't always conspiratorial it was cultural it was all kinds of crap and we were just saying

00:23:06.880 all the things like top said that you weren't supposed to say because this this valve had been

00:23:10.220 released. And eventually I started to pull back because I realized that something was happening.

00:23:15.960 There was an algorithm that was supporting these things. It wasn't just an organic.

00:23:19.400 It was organic to an extent, but then there was there was an astroturfing. There was an

00:23:23.860 artificial inflation of narratives that it seemed, you know, the powers that be, call them Elon Musk,

00:23:31.480 the AI overlords, whatever, whoever you want to name. It seemed like they wanted this to happen.

00:23:37.420 So through that lens, I started to adjust my opinion on the Epstein files. And I said, yeah, man, it feels like we're in a script, which was pretty obvious to me back in the QAnon days. I pulled out of that really quick after about three months of being in the QAnon environment. I realized like, oh, this is a script. This is an entire part of a play. And it's not that I don't think this is real.

00:24:00.300 i think that it'll have real world implications but it's narrative control it's left hand right

00:24:07.320 right hand or i'm sorry left hand path right hand path kind of white hats versus black hats it's

00:24:12.980 freemasonic binary they always give us a false binary to choose you know this path or that path

00:24:19.540 when in reality and i think that's an apt um not an app but it's a kind of a funny way to describe

00:24:25.640 the situations that you're given it's left hand path versus right hand path when jesus tells us

00:24:30.140 that the path is narrow right so it's not either of those paths it's this really narrow path that

00:24:34.980 kind of goes through the center and it leads to christ um so i'm going okay i can see this is kind

00:24:40.740 of like theater and i do think the the um implications of the q drops and everything

00:24:46.860 will come to pass and they're going to be magnificent they're going to really screw

00:24:51.040 people up about what to believe in fact i don't even think people are going to question what to

00:24:54.720 believe they're just going to fall you know uh face forward into whatever this new narrative

00:25:00.020 We already have the premise set for that with Bill Maher saying, like, who do I go to to apologize for the Q, for the Q drops?

00:25:05.860 It's so weird, too, because when I see that, I want to feel vindicated.

00:25:10.200 But but I also know that Q is an op. It's a psychological operation.

00:25:13.920 It's like, you know, Operation Trust or just a new new version of it.

00:25:18.660 You know, when you have that sort of what's homeboy's name that says who wrote Morals and Dogma, Albert, Albert Pike, when he goes, you know, when the people need a hero, we shall provide one for them.

00:25:28.840 That's kind of paraphrasing. That's not exactly how it goes. But I think the truth is also said, or I'm sorry, that sentiment is also true for the villain. When the people need a villain, they'll provide one as well.

00:25:40.500 So I would say if this is a script, if they have a grand deception that they're waiting to hatch and you can see all of these elements kind of coming into position, getting ready for, you know, whether it was Trump's presidency, the narrative surrounding alien disclosure, civil unrest, you know, the whole medical calamity that we had.

00:26:06.440 Like all these things started positioning themselves and I go, you don't move that many

00:26:10.680 things unless you really are trying to get everything in position for what the next thing

00:26:14.740 is.

00:26:14.860 So when that next thing comes, like you said, Ben, it'll be off the back of the release

00:26:20.640 of these files.

00:26:21.620 Well, I think I'm struggling.

00:26:23.160 I'm struggling to understand what's the play is the play what's in the Epstein files or

00:26:29.840 is the play disclosure?

00:26:31.140 Is that like which which is above which?

00:26:33.580 Yes, because we were talking.

00:26:34.560 we're talking with ed mabry about it um about disclosure before the epstein files dropped

00:26:39.060 and he goes what makes you guys on this is on the back of uh the timothy albarino debate where

00:26:44.680 we were kind of like being like really passionate about like why it's important that it needs to be

00:26:49.560 discussed now yeah and why there shouldn't be any deception or obviously shouldn't be any deception

00:26:54.160 period but why specifically now it's important that there's no deception and also maybe why

00:26:59.580 specifically now you'd call for a debate to i don't know sway idea do some good pr before

00:27:06.300 disclosure happens i think that before you go on the michael noel show but it's like okay so he

00:27:12.500 says well why do you think disclosure is going to happen and we laid out a whole list of things

00:27:16.260 and we're like oh look at look at this pile of stuff right now that's ready to just break through

00:27:20.780 all these things are constantly being hinted at and then the next week the epstein files come out

00:27:24.660 And it proves correct everything we've been saying.

00:27:28.360 And I say that with air quotes, proves correct.

00:27:30.940 Because again, the Epstein files is like, if you're a conspiracy theorist, there's something there for you.

00:27:36.840 I mean, Pokemon Go just got its own Epstein files.

00:27:39.420 They got their own conspiracy, yeah.

00:27:41.300 And it's now even bigger.

00:27:43.980 Deepak Chopra and Epstein were talking about.

00:27:47.300 Ambazarian was releasing the files.

00:27:49.260 There's pictures of him.

00:27:50.480 Not necessarily tied to Epstein, but they were in the files.

00:27:52.940 well even which is bizarre like him and post malone but those are public pictures they blocked

00:27:58.120 out girls which i made maybe the girls are suggested they were underage but then you got

00:28:03.320 to answer why dan bilzerian would post the unedited photo of underage girls on his were they underage

00:28:10.200 at the time were they underage at all i mean i don't know it's but yeah it's it's so wild

00:28:15.200 everything's in there um but the the the pokemon ghost stuff is fun i mean it's just a side note

00:28:21.340 But Epstein and Deepak Chopra were talking about developing a phone app that could detect like you can go around with your phone and you can detect the aura of somebody else.

00:28:29.780 And it's like it had weird overlaps and similarities to Pokemon Go.

00:28:33.460 And then Pokemon Go happens to be a stop, a Pokemon Go stop on the island, which is like a pedophile finder.

00:28:40.780 That's probably what it was. All right.

00:28:42.300 Yeah, there's always like a specific Pokemon around pedophiles.

00:28:47.500 uh jigglypuff but you know the the thing is um even the even the ufo disclosure is it's sort of

00:28:55.600 like tied into this whole thing i mean um there's in this is actually where things got really weird

00:29:01.880 with alvarino completely sideways where you know i i kind of looked at him like he was just an a-hole

00:29:08.900 and maybe he was running a bit of a narrative that like he didn't understand doesn't mean he

00:29:12.320 has to be a paid operative or anything like that he just might have found himself parroting

00:29:18.240 something that he doesn't understand the origins of um and inside these these epstein files there's

00:29:24.120 a moment where he's epstein himself is talking to he's emailing a guy named lawrence kraus and

00:29:28.360 he's asking lawrence kraus to formulate a debate for him an argument and the the goal of the

00:29:33.280 argument is to separate three elements that people seem to be connecting and epstein didn't

00:29:38.980 want them to be connected what year was this like 20 2010 i don't know when that actually was i have

00:29:43.580 it somewhere in my uh on my twitter but um he says that he wants an argument to separate aliens

00:29:51.660 from ghosts and out-of-body experiences and if you unpack that a little bit it's like well what

00:29:58.540 is it ghost i'm of the belief that a ghost is a familiar spirit a demonic spirit that is presenting

00:30:06.080 itself as a loved one as a little girl who died here kind of a thing I don't think that people

00:30:12.380 necessarily are trapped um and that's because if you just look at anytime you get that kind of a

00:30:18.080 narrative something always goes wrong and it always shifts and the little girl spirit or the

00:30:23.440 grandma spirit always turns into something horrifying it's a trope within horror movies

00:30:27.880 but within um experience or testimony it's the same thing I've heard stories of like my grandmother

00:30:33.520 that came to visit me after i passed away and then she kept visiting and eventually she changed in

00:30:39.340 some way shape or form and she became malicious and and dark and scary and it's like yeah because

00:30:44.160 it was a thing masquerading so okay this was in 2018 2018 so let's say ghosts then are demonic

00:30:51.400 they're not really people so he wants aliens separated from the demonic what else does he

00:30:56.500 want he wants it separated from out-of-body experiences so out-of-body experiences being

00:31:01.940 near-death experiences astral projecting the spiritual realm right where one can go if you're

00:31:07.680 if you leave your your physical form those are the three elements specifically that alvarino tried to

00:31:13.020 separate on our show i reject the term spiritual realm yeah that was crazy he's kind of pushing

00:31:18.980 the idea that these aliens are coming far off in another galaxy and there's no such thing as a

00:31:24.420 spiritual realm dude it was bizarre because he at one point he was saying the alien adduction

00:31:31.380 phenomenon is strictly physical and i go well that's not true number one you're dealing with

00:31:36.260 something that isn't concrete and very hard to prove so to say that it's strictly physical is

00:31:40.760 like you can't say this is strictly anything at this point in the game but if you're just dealing

00:31:44.900 with abductee testimony which is what he was referencing there's a huge body of abductee

00:31:49.360 testimony that talks about either this is happening in the spiritual not the stuff that he references

00:31:53.180 not the stuff that he references right so people are saying this seems to happen physically

00:31:56.960 sometimes but then other times it seems to happen in an astral realm or physical realm so after i

00:32:02.120 see that i'm like i'm forced to ask and people are upset they're like oh don't attack timothy

00:32:06.860 albarino dude maybe he's going around is being gracious unwittingly promoting a theory that

00:32:15.580 seems to have its origins in something a little bit um maybe or more organized and nefarious than

00:32:21.720 he cares to believe and that seems to be like whatever epstein is doing i mean he's into the

00:32:26.940 idea of trauma by way of disassociation that all these mk ultra uh intelligence programs are

00:32:33.000 interested in right um he's interested in the composition of the soul at one point there are

00:32:38.980 emails about how the jewish soul was comprised differently than than you know a non-jewish soul

00:32:44.280 like these are things that he seems to have his hand in his interest in and he's funding

00:32:48.940 research he's funding what seems to be rupert sheldrake's uh research into the psychic phenomenon

00:32:54.260 um telepathy specifically telepathy specifically and so you know i can't help but wonder like what

00:33:00.840 are the origins what think tank did that birth out of why is a guy like epstein by the way who

00:33:07.180 seems to have um some decent knowledge about a vast many things if you believe these these emails

00:33:12.800 these doj releases why is he outsourcing for that argument why is he asking lauren's krauss

00:33:18.360 like why not upon your own intellect can you not separate these things why are you asking a dude

00:33:22.860 to formulate a debate, it seems like narrative control other than or as opposed to like genuine

00:33:29.700 inquiry or genuine interest. You know, why would you seek out another individual and say, hey,

00:33:34.680 can you help me put this to bed? Because people are putting these together and I don't want that

00:33:38.860 to happen. And then why is Alvarino doing the same thing? Very bizarre. Yeah. As soon as you

00:33:43.840 start pushing the CIA narrative or the Jesuit narrative, or you could even say design this

00:33:48.400 narrative let's face it that avi lobe guy was pushing that 3i atlas yeah uh they never came

00:33:53.820 but one thing i noticed about the epstein files and i thought about it is where did this idea or

00:34:01.940 the conspiracy movement go mainstream well it went mainstream with q anon q anon is an

00:34:08.360 intelligence operation where was q anon on 4chan well who released the epstein files

00:34:14.860 Mossad and CIA and you would figure that they have control over what files they release they're

00:34:20.940 curating which ones they want they're blacking out certain things and what I notice is that

00:34:26.600 a lot of these files confirmed the QAnon stuff right and then it's all the above then you have

00:34:34.320 Trump coming out and saying that he's going to make some major announcement on alien disclosure

00:34:39.120 as if he's trying to cover up some of this stuff.

00:34:41.960 But I see this as the manufacturing of biblical prophecy.

00:34:47.440 And then they kind of just threw gasoline on the agenda

00:34:50.440 with this Epstein thing.

00:34:52.980 Because I think I saw Jake Shields actually comment.

00:34:56.520 And he goes,

00:34:58.500 we're not going to forget about the Epstein files, right?

00:35:03.300 Are we going to do this?

00:35:04.340 Something like, I hope we don't have to take care of this violently.

00:35:07.440 So there's this percolating of the public sentiment that, yes, our government is ran by pedophiles and is being controlled by an organization.

00:35:17.800 And the truth is there's multiple organizations like this.

00:35:20.720 There's multiple influences, all that kind of stuff.

00:35:22.600 But for the first time, the public is well aware of it.

00:35:26.340 It's not going away.

00:35:27.880 What comes next?

00:35:28.960 And I always say that the people that release the file know exactly what's coming next.

00:35:33.480 Yeah.

00:35:34.920 I guess, is it like, what is it?

00:35:36.880 the the revealing of the old gods is well play with with these files like are the files meant

00:35:43.720 to move aside this uh this older guard of of people and then usher in the new gods is i mean

00:35:50.360 that might be it might be what we're looking at but i don't think that's exact that might not be

00:35:55.600 what what happens maybe we just get another form of government you know maybe it's time to move on

00:36:00.680 and shift it actually something very interesting what i see and and a guy that i know that you

00:36:06.260 don't you don't like i i kind of like him from my libertarian days uh the guy thomas massey

00:36:11.180 yeah but he does have my uh he has my my hair is standing up a little bit if that makes any sense

00:36:18.940 i'm like i'm watching him and i like what he does i think he's good on policy i think he's the most

00:36:25.420 honest uh uh politician that we have in america but there is a there's a reason why he's leading

00:36:33.480 this charge right and it seems like we're we're ready to do this weird kind of like double switch

00:36:41.800 if that makes like it looks like he's the guy that is going to present all this damning evidence or

00:36:49.240 at least get it unveiled to the public and he'll be sitting there and and trump has already painted

00:36:54.800 a delineating line between him and any other republicans it's pretty much him and just one

00:36:59.760 other guy, maybe like Rand Paul. And I'm looking at him. I'm like, are you the new guard? Are you

00:37:04.460 the new thing that we're supposed to be following here? Because my instincts, my political instincts

00:37:10.940 would tell me to jump on board. But my conspiracy instincts are telling me, be careful. There's a

00:37:18.000 reason like, how does this play? How does it play out where he sits and he sits on the Congress

00:37:21.860 floor and makes Pam Bondi look like a complete asshole? Even then when she did that, by the way,

00:37:26.460 when she's just like you know he creates that viral moment of like 50 000 the dow is and i'm

00:37:31.100 like it's very funny it feels not real it feels yeah it feels like nonsense like like if i were

00:37:37.740 to take a dive that's what i would do yes there you go there are so many other lines of argument

00:37:42.280 that you could have you know thrown at him but that's what you went with or you said well you

00:37:46.680 voted for ai pornography and just completely don't answer it and he like laughs in your face i'm like

00:37:51.760 right something's happening here and the public is noticing yeah is is that is are we ready to

00:37:57.340 shift into that sort of a system rather than like the new gods or the aliens coming down maybe we

00:38:02.380 get some form of that as well but maybe this america first party led by thomas massey is now

00:38:10.120 the people that are going to be in charge and what comes with that i'm almost wondering if what

00:38:15.520 happened is um because you know obviously within the q and q and on narrative trump was the the

00:38:20.740 main guy and i don't think that like i i do not attribute all powerful you know kind of reality

00:38:29.800 manipulation to satan um i think that the plans of the devil are often falling through his hands

00:38:37.760 like sand and you know he's kind of left with something that looks so i can't help but wonder

00:38:42.000 like okay maybe they did have trump positioned as this guy at one point and i think he still

00:38:45.960 is going to play some sort of a role but what if you know things didn't pan out the right way so

00:38:51.500 they're going to switch up maybe they'll give us this guy right thomas massey instead um but i i

00:38:58.080 don't know i don't know where it goes exactly but i think the point is we're at the part of the

00:39:03.940 theater where the people are supposed to and i think this is always the case actually the people

00:39:08.580 are supposed to facilitate the next thing so so where are the things that get emotionally

00:39:14.100 manipulated and corralled down one path or another and they have like a couple of probably a couple

00:39:20.300 of viable paths right if the public does this then that one's you know we'll go ahead and launch that

00:39:24.300 thing if the public does that and um i don't know if we'll actually go into the streets this is

00:39:29.860 something that i've been talking about a lot ben it's like in the bible you know what are we called

00:39:33.960 to do about the world right because that's what we're ultimately dealing with the world what has

00:39:38.560 the world been doing since the dawn of time well it's been worshiping false idols and false gods

00:39:44.500 it's been sacrificing children it's been making slaves of men um it's been impossibly corrupt

00:39:49.600 and i don't think at any point we're ever called to to save it the great commission is to make

00:39:54.940 disciples of men christ already created redemption for us and i don't know that in this moment you

00:40:03.000 feel it though right you feel that call yeah dude right yeah i feel that call and it's coming come

00:40:07.840 into me and i'm trying to i'm trying to navigate it the right way because um i don't know that in

00:40:14.760 the bible there's ever this moment where then the people come together and they expose the world

00:40:21.280 for being the world and then they fix it no that's first samuel right the people come together and

00:40:28.260 they go look at all this corruption in the temple look at look at the prophets samuel look at your

00:40:33.180 sons they're horrible and then they and then they fix it and they get they get a king yeah which i

00:40:38.820 think is is the setup yeah and that that king is likely going to be the antichrist right i don't

00:40:44.080 know exactly how these things are going to play together i i i look at the alien disclosure angle

00:40:49.240 and i know that within the alien disclosure that's what makes me feel like it might so when you said

00:40:53.620 it'll it'll be the antichrist my inclination is to go probably not right how many times in history

00:40:59.480 has this have we been here as you say but when you throw in this mix of like we're about to

00:41:05.440 disclose some like you know extraterrestrial interdimensional i mean i was looking at over

00:41:10.760 now over and over again people are saying may 1st it's been confirmed i don't know what that means

00:41:15.380 i don't know who's confirmed what but that's a sentiment right now and it could be another

00:41:20.080 bullshit date as you know many times there are you know that one's gonna make the announcement

00:41:24.560 allegedly allegedly that's what we're seeing yeah it feels like that uh that cliff high

00:41:30.280 prediction yeah that's one that always resonated with me and sat with me as something true about

00:41:35.940 it where uh are you aware of cliff high oh yeah okay so he has that uh uh i forgot exactly what

00:41:42.320 it's called explain to the audience real quick it's a probability machine he's a systems expert

00:41:46.880 and a code engineer and and he created a an ai that scrapes data off the internet yeah it scrapes

00:41:52.560 the headlines off of major news publications and then extrapolates and creates a predictive

00:41:57.620 program for what may happen. And he's been correct a bunch of times. He also uses like

00:42:02.860 certain remote viewers, Dick Alligator being one of the big ones that he uses.

00:42:06.840 Dick Alligator.

00:42:07.620 Yeah, Dick Alligator. And he'll do like double blind studies with them where he doesn't tell

00:42:12.860 them what he's looking for, but he'll give them the coordinates and they'll go and they'll confirm.

00:42:17.080 So his big claim to fame is that he has a number of them.

00:42:20.720 Well, I would say the biggest one is that back in 2009, one of the predictions that it spat out, along with the aid of some remote viewers later on down the timeline, seemed to indicate that Trump was going to sit down and have some sort of a really huge conversation with Joe Rogan.

00:42:35.840 And if you think about 2009, what the landscape of podcasting was in 2009, where Trump was in 2009, where Joe Rogan was in 2009, for this thing to have said that is pretty profound.

00:42:47.520 So that was that was, I would say, his biggest viral moment when it did come to pass.

00:42:52.600 And it was a linchpin moment that suggested if this thing happens, then we will see a

00:42:56.780 series of events that follow it.

00:42:58.760 And it also pointed out like the 08 crash and things like that.

00:43:01.820 9-11, supposedly certain terrorist attack.

00:43:04.340 Oh, no, no, not 9-11.

00:43:05.220 I'm sorry.

00:43:05.500 Something else.

00:43:05.980 I was thinking something else.

00:43:07.220 Anyway, this this one prediction and it's not even a prediction.

00:43:10.640 It's just like a weird future event.

00:43:12.700 it's like trump at a what appears to be a thanksgiving table and he's doing his thing

00:43:18.100 like like that's the vibe yeah picture him when he has like all the mcdonald's hamburgers on the

00:43:22.100 table and he's like the best hamburgers like this this sort of vibe and and but he's he's addressing

00:43:27.020 the nation and it feels like everybody's watching and he's saying like look at we what we've just

00:43:33.160 been through and like we're out of it we're on the other side of it and now we're moving forward

00:43:37.720 But what we just been through was incredible. And after the events of the last two weeks and with whatever he's saying about May 1st, I'm like that moment. Yeah. Of what is being predicted is possible. And it makes me weirded out.

00:43:55.000 It's preceded by a number of things, too. Like one of the things that precedes it is that people in what appears to be like a congressional hall will be hunched over, vomiting, in tears, in hysterics about this big thing that happened.

00:44:14.780 um and he's like i don't know the nature of it but the sentiment is this is the last meeting

00:44:22.700 of this congressional you know that's that's that's at least the vibe right not saying that

00:44:27.660 it's congress but saying that it is administrative political high ranking and this will be the last

00:44:34.700 time yeah halls of government and this will be the last time and that the the feeling is that um

00:44:40.620 this thing that was never supposed to be revealed has been revealed and that's why they're freaking

00:44:46.040 out and then yeah after some time then eventually we get this looking back in hindsight about like

00:44:50.720 i just love it because i'm like are we are we there right now it's a fun one it's wild i mean

00:44:56.740 think about for the past four or five years we've been talking about all this stuff and literally

00:45:01.540 it seems like the last two weeks and everything that's coming it's like oh my god oh my god it's

00:45:06.180 happening oh my god they're about to pull the trigger oh my god you know because it's like

00:45:09.560 shit or get off the pot at some point and i think the release of this epstein files um was this

00:45:14.920 control i mean people like to talk about a controlled demolition i like to think it as a

00:45:18.680 controlled transition into the new thing so how long are people going to put up with pedophiles

00:45:25.240 running the world um then you have this idea of the gods right so i think in the future i think

00:45:30.920 after these you know pedos create world war three and tear it all down you know humanity or what's

00:45:35.960 left of humanity is going to be offered a choice right uh do you want the old system pedophiles

00:45:41.360 you know and they're going to blame the god the bible too that's all part of it and then they're

00:45:45.160 going to say or or do you want ai and then cue in the aliens and all that type of stuff with their

00:45:50.680 new gods i think ultimately that's what they're trying to lead us into well that's the thing that

00:45:55.260 i was kind of getting at is within the galactic federation of lightning real quick that transition

00:45:59.120 that you're talking about what i'm seeing is yeah there isn't so we've had two weeks about since the

00:46:05.780 release of the epstein files and they've been and guess what she already knows did you just

00:46:09.560 i did not just sig how uh mason already knows okay so yeah this is it's getting to the normies

00:46:15.980 faster than i thought in the coffee shop yeah we ask we we put little feelers out to see where the

00:46:20.460 people are at and they're starting to notice so yeah it's it's becoming the time and the people

00:46:25.280 are not going to be as patient as we are asked one old lady we said hey what do you think about

00:46:29.200 the epstein file she's just there trying to get a coffee she goes something should be done i said

00:46:32.620 you know what she was saying like maybe what she was actually saying was people should get over it

00:46:37.360 we should move on is that what she said yeah and what she hasn't she hasn't it hasn't caught up to

00:46:42.220 her yet oh she doesn't know that the doj just released 3.5 million files she has no idea she

00:46:46.640 thought you were talking about 2019 that's why 18 that's why she's like people just need to move on

00:46:51.340 is that why she fell over when i said we should hang them yeah that's why right now there's a

00:46:55.780 stretcher and an ambulance outside uh the the slow drip to the public well not the slow drip

00:47:01.600 But as the public realizes, there's going to be a certain time frame, probably like less than a week because people will be kind of flustered.

00:47:08.220 And Thomas Massey is there set up to be the guy that redacts all this stuff, because like that's the layer of the onion for right now.

00:47:16.020 At least we got the files. There's still more, but they're heavily redacted.

00:47:20.540 And he is the one person, which is crazy.

00:47:24.120 Nobody else in Congress is going, wow.

00:47:26.500 So Massey was in charge of the redactions?

00:47:28.520 no not in charge of it but he's in charge of a like some sort of a committee to redact the

00:47:34.900 redactions to unredact yeah to remove them that's that's what that whole congressional hearing was

00:47:40.320 about and it was him and Rand Paul which I don't think Rand Paul has the I don't know maybe he

00:47:46.540 doesn't have the jurisdiction to like request this because they are in two separate forms of

00:47:49.980 government but Thomas Massey does and that's why he's doing like this deposition on these people

00:47:54.320 he's accusing cash patel he's talking to pam bondy everybody else is dead silent but he is

00:48:00.440 either the fall guy or the guy that receives and yeah or remains to be seen i do like thomas massey

00:48:07.340 but yeah it's getting a little guy i like donald trump do i think that he's um one of the most

00:48:12.620 bizarre characters in the world and like zero that we understand to be true about him is actually

00:48:18.080 true yes but i enjoy these fictional characters me too and and that's fine i don't think there's

00:48:22.920 anything wrong with that you just have to be able to because otherwise you get into the black pill

00:48:26.460 thing you know what's crazy massey is one of the guys like he follows me on twitter too and he does

00:48:31.340 it to a lot of people he follows a lot of people but he's one of the guys that you look at and you

00:48:35.320 go man homegrown and then you look at his story and i'm like this guy's like a mathematician

00:48:39.980 his house is like like super sci-fi'd out he owns land he's homesteading he's doing all this cool

00:48:46.220 shit and it's like he's almost unreal well it's the same thing with like candace owens right no

00:48:51.560 she's talking about uh charlie kirk and all these you know unique things about him streetlights used

00:48:56.780 to go off when he would run underneath them and i think he's a time traveler he comes to me in my

00:49:01.060 dreams and then when you start listening to her talk you're like you you guys were all like part

00:49:04.700 of the gates program as kids yeah like that's what's going on you were part of the gifted and

00:49:07.780 talented programs you were selected from from birth uh to to be put in these positions i don't

00:49:12.680 think that means you are aware entirely and i don't think that means that your intentions are

00:49:19.680 nefarious but i think you were pre-selected and put on this railroad experience this train track

00:49:25.340 experience that leads to where you are now uh and i think she actually doesn't have the the

00:49:30.160 wherewithal really maybe she does maybe she grasps on some level because she was talking about

00:49:33.800 straight up that that she was part of some sort of gifted and talented program as a kid and it's

00:49:37.900 like okay yeah yeah that's that that tracks but you know as far as this um how the aliens kind of

00:49:44.880 Q into this Q. I think that if you pay attention to the abductee phenomenon, and if you pay

00:49:51.540 attention to sort of the narratives that have fleshed out around it, like my favorite one to

00:49:55.520 point to is the Galactic Federation of Light, which a lot of people find laughable. And it's

00:49:59.360 because it is very cringy and laughable. But it has all these elements that are in lockstep with

00:50:06.220 the Q movement. It's also in lockstep with with anonymous, right? The old one of the hackers back

00:50:11.520 in the day and it is that it's an ai voice right like a like an automated voice it's somebody

00:50:17.380 that's channeling that's where the information comes from somebody's channeling these entities

00:50:20.640 they're going on and they're making these youtube videos and they're talking to these giant

00:50:24.260 communities some of these galactic federation of light videos used to have millions and millions of

00:50:27.960 of views on them and the idea was very very similar it was that it is time humanity is

00:50:37.840 approaching an apex moment where it's do or die either we're going to succumb to these evil forces

00:50:46.600 that seek to keep us trapped here and they were talking about like the elites and stuff stuff like

00:50:50.340 that um and we would all fall victim to an extinction level event or we would be rescued

00:50:58.520 uh by these extraterrestrials we also had to elevate and ascend our own consciousness our

00:51:07.060 own vibration so that we can vibrate at a higher frequency and once we got there once humanity was

00:51:14.440 there basically these these ets would be like all right it's time let's go in there liberate them

00:51:20.900 from their you know horrifying overlords and then a man humanity can ascend and take its position

00:51:26.560 among the galactic federation wait who else says that well it sounds a lot like number one anonymous

00:51:31.840 which was their old slogan was expect us and it sounds exactly like q anon which is patriots are

00:51:37.880 in control but there's a third who did who else says it the kids from the telepathy tapes oh yeah

00:51:44.940 yeah i was just looking at that too diane powell yeah who is um well let me let me finish this

00:51:50.720 the conspiracy theory of all conspiracy theories and that's why i don't believe it i'm gonna go

00:51:55.480 i'm gonna go out and say it right now like the epstein files i don't understand what they are

00:52:00.460 i know that a giant percentage of them are not real i don't know what that i can't even put a

00:52:04.300 number on that i have no idea but the idea that one dude is at the bottom of every single conspiracy

00:52:11.280 theory is like like i hear what you're saying top about the ability to delegate you know and all

00:52:16.660 you're doing is pushing funding well here's and delegating pushing funding and delegating

00:52:20.040 email here just to prove your point uh diane powell who is in the telepathy tapes i think

00:52:26.560 she's a co-producer as well she's one of these uh people that are doing the bulk of the research

00:52:30.800 on the non-autistic children an email or the non-verbal autistic children because they

00:52:35.260 specifically are autistic email thread from deepak chopra this is in the epstein files

00:52:39.880 to diane diane powell and uh carolyn wrangle forwarded to jeffrey epstein where they are

00:52:47.520 talking about let me know the bare minimum for funding this initial study including a collaboration

00:52:52.680 with professor ramachandran right they're pursuing temp the templeton foundation now diane powell

00:52:59.280 works for i think uh berkeley and skywatcher and skywatcher and skywatcher according to jake

00:53:05.040 barber okay this is jake barber the egg man okay come on we're gonna tie we're gonna tie all this

00:53:10.260 together for you guys um it's so bizarre ben so they're they're all looking for a bare minimum

00:53:17.260 of funding. And the subject of this is savant syndrome and the non-local mind, which is

00:53:24.760 Diane Powell's specialty. And this is what the telepathy tapes deals in specifically,

00:53:29.540 the non-local mind. And I mean, yeah, and savant syndrome, but like within these non-verbal

00:53:35.080 autistic children that are like, they can do math at the drop of a hat. They can tell you what's on

00:53:40.180 the other side of a wall. They can read your mind in certain specific cases. This lady here is

00:53:45.800 seeking funding from well deepak chopra and from jeffrey epstein so yeah he's got his tendrils and

00:53:52.180 everything as far as like the delegation goes he's not specifically talking to this person but

00:53:56.740 is involved monetarily so like the money is spreading and again is this his money

00:54:01.460 or is this money from some entity that he has and is and just spreading out i don't know here's

00:54:08.480 what's weird about why is it all together if if if he's involved with the telepathy tapes

00:54:13.640 i would i would almost say it doesn't matter because when we look at the telepathy tapes

00:54:20.240 we're looking at the fruits of a trauma-based disassociation program that um intelligence

00:54:30.260 agencies have been tinkering with since like 47 48 49 50 1950 so we also have confirmation uh from

00:54:40.060 that ninjas is butterflies which again no no slight to them but they they interviewed uh

00:54:45.020 what's her name the lady right uh what the hell's her name uh forget her because it's kai dickens

00:54:51.820 kai dickens is a bizarre name yeah they got the interview with her which is also very bizarre

00:54:55.340 like she she interviews with them this is a number one podcast in the world at one time and she's

00:54:59.900 like interviewing from her phone like you could tell it's like a down i just like can these people

00:55:03.700 not just get like get a mic lady get a mic and i had one thing in the conversation but i always

00:55:08.160 which is from your guys reporting um talk about how because the one thing i saw was owen video

00:55:14.860 owen uh what's his name benjamin benjamin made a really funny video on it i had to laugh at that

00:55:20.820 but uh the one thing you guys did say is they took out the mention of jesus uh we're these kids

00:55:28.080 yep well we'll get we can get to that let's let's you want to go into the telepathy tapes so um

00:55:34.180 Well, that's actually really brief. Let's just say that Dr. Joseph Ingram is Ingram and Franco and Franco worked on the project. And he said he had an unbelievable amount of video and testimony from the kids having to do with the fact that they're experiencing Jesus.

00:55:53.000 they're having experiences with jesus this is an overwhelming theme and kai dickens kind of leftist

00:55:59.740 lesbian character wants to frame it as a new age ascension a psychological ascension a spiritual

00:56:05.080 ascension removes any mention of of christ there's like one brief mention of christ and there but it

00:56:10.860 was a theme and they removed it so it's narrative framing within the telepathy tapes as well when

00:56:14.940 you listen to it there is like it does come from like some people aren't sort of new agey some

00:56:19.260 people are uh indian mystic in a way or like like practicing hinduism and their kids are seeing the

00:56:25.440 gods of old and the mother actually warns them like don't communicate with them don't worry about

00:56:29.340 that you didn't see that this kind of stuff so the phenomenon that they're experiencing

00:56:33.080 is not it is not just like jesus driven in my opinion but there are a lot of kids that are

00:56:41.880 going to this place called the hill and there's a lot of them that are coming back to joseph and

00:56:46.540 Franco, which he runs a ministry for them. And they're telling him, yo, we talked to Jesus.

00:56:51.380 So like, fascinatingly enough, they actually say that the reason they can do this is because

00:56:55.260 they've never lied. Again, that's neither here nor there. I think that's a really that's probably

00:57:00.840 more important than we think. They've never lied. They've never they've never committed the

00:57:07.940 fundamental spiritual sin of lying. Like that little thing that even children do. They've

00:57:14.040 never done it because they're nonverbal. Lying is a social thing that you would do for any number

00:57:19.320 of reasons. But if you can't even interact with people, there's really no reason to lie.

00:57:23.980 Them having never done that is, according to them, the source of why they can engage in this

00:57:29.700 sort of psychic phenomenon at all, which is, I think, fascinating. Well, I don't know. It may be,

00:57:34.800 maybe, but they're certainly on the other side of some sort of veil. And the Telepathy Tapes

00:57:40.700 has done a they've done extensive work to frame it only in one direction which is a new age

00:57:46.400 direction and at the very end of the telepathy tape she gets like three or four kids and they

00:57:50.660 all kind of rehash the same message which is the message of the intergalactic federation of light

00:57:56.020 that we all have to ascend and ascension means uh telepathy the tower of babel sort of thing

00:58:01.440 and and we all just have to put aside our human nature and go this way to ascend and

00:58:06.100 I don't know. At the end of it, I kind of think that the telepathy idea is a descension in a way.

00:58:13.880 It's something that we can do, but we're not supposed to do. I think spoken word and prophecy

00:58:18.360 is much stronger than just communication through your head. I think that actually might be

00:58:25.220 forbidden in some ways in this physical realm that we are in right now. I might do a little

00:58:31.420 bit of it with my wife sometimes we'll accidentally she'll sing a song that i'm thinking in my head

00:58:37.440 and she sings it out loud at the same part something's happening i i don't know but we're

00:58:42.140 certainly not supposed to do that with everybody yeah there's like i think there's a reason why

00:58:46.900 when you encounter like cryptids demons and aliens they're all speaking telepathically to you and not

00:58:52.160 with with their mouths um i think that they don't have the ability to prophesy i i think that yeah

00:58:57.580 like top said the spoken word is really powerful but but going back to that point that i was making

00:59:02.000 before about epstein and whether or not it even matters it's like for epstein to be the mastermind

00:59:07.080 behind the telepathy tapes is like i reject that i reject that because i reject the premise yeah

00:59:12.080 we're dealing with uh 80 years 80 years of research nefarious research um traumatizing

00:59:21.440 he is not the he's not the the founder of the telepathy this is just an extension of more work

00:59:27.920 yeah yeah from what we we gather from the telepathy tapes when you look at it they even

00:59:31.700 have the balls in in episode i think episode six five or six on the first season of the telepathy

00:59:37.620 tapes they mentioned the the guy who started this at least in modern times andreja puharic yeah he's

00:59:43.020 a guy that we've done a couple of deep dives on i'm sure you've you've heard his name spouted by

00:59:46.640 a number of times, but this guy was involved with initially dental tooth implants. And that's the

00:59:51.920 example that they give with Lucille Ball, where she had this filling and she was able to pick up

00:59:56.260 radio waves and he patented that technology. That was his. And they actually kind of like say it as

01:00:02.480 if it's like a good thing, but his reason for patenting this and creating it was nefarious.

01:00:08.100 He was obsessed with telepathy and he explored it through the route of psychedelics and other

01:00:12.600 kind of like lsd through the i guess uh you would say more metaphysical way and it seems his research

01:00:18.900 led him that the best way to do this was physical implantation right because metal is a conductor of

01:00:24.640 frequency these things exist on frequency and as far as frequency goes too he has another patent

01:00:29.420 that's fascinating called elf waves elf extremely low frequency waves and uh they were using this

01:00:35.660 as like i think of what they did to the guys in venezuela right now it's like a disc ovulator or

01:00:40.840 whatever yeah yeah it's great um yeah they were using that as a way to like make people sick

01:00:45.460 just regular havana syndrome stuff they normal stuff yeah this was in the 50s uh well actually

01:00:53.600 no no that's actually more towards the 60s 70s but this guy's operating from right after operation

01:00:58.740 paperclip this guy starts operating but he's not from germany he's from uh where is he from uh one

01:01:04.440 of these other western bloc countries but not i think that's where all that it all comes from

01:01:08.400 that though so he's whatever the serbian okay so um yeah i don't know whatever the guy was

01:01:13.660 he was the guy that was looking into this he comes from edgewood arsenal as well where they're doing

01:01:19.120 a lot of military testing comes out of there and just starts doing patents so obsessed with

01:01:24.160 frequency telepathy and uh mushrooms psychedelics things like that and all these all these works

01:01:30.760 combined for him he's he's piggybacking off of the research that uh mangala and the nazis did

01:01:36.540 yeah um and i'm sure they're piggybacking off of other mystic works but 100 it's the same thing

01:01:41.980 with their vamanas right like the the bell-shaped ufo is really just a vamana um so they're all

01:01:47.100 this is just a chain of dark arts yeah that were taught to mankind by by the fallen but this is

01:01:54.440 who harwich we always point at him as an extremely pivotal moment because like 1947 that's when you

01:02:01.160 have the implementation of the cia i think the air force is created the the truman doctrine

01:02:05.480 you name it or roswell all this stuff is happening right then the creation of israel

01:02:09.660 and this guy pops up right there too so like that's the most um solid recent iterance of this

01:02:16.200 yeah and i think if the world continues people will go back and they'll point at epstein you

01:02:21.840 know but really then it would be puhars before him but then it would be the nazis before him but

01:02:25.220 then it would be ancient vamanas before that you know it's like that's the chain of events uh but

01:02:30.560 But this guy here who's mentioned in the telepathy tapes, just as a brief passing, he starts to channel entities with another, you know, ancient Indian mystic, Dr. D.G. Vinod.

01:02:43.320 And then his work is like prolific as it goes into the UFO research.

01:02:47.400 It goes into Operation Stargate, which has now been renamed by Donald.

01:02:51.220 By the way, you still see it now, right?

01:02:54.440 So Dr. Stephen Greer brings out his CE5 app.

01:02:57.200 What is the CE5 app?

01:02:58.620 It's the research that the Gates program was working on, that the MKUltra program was working

01:03:03.880 on.

01:03:04.440 It's binaural beats.

01:03:05.640 It's hemi-syncing, syncing the hemispheres of the brain using just a series of beats.

01:03:10.840 And then all of a sudden, you're able to call in orbs into this reality.

01:03:14.340 But it doesn't stop there because if you look into the experiences, it goes poltergeist

01:03:18.240 activity, alien abduction phenomenon, demonic encounters, sleep paralysis.

01:03:22.760 Yeah, go figure.

01:03:23.920 It's the same shit.

01:03:24.880 Yes, schizophrenia.

01:03:25.820 It's all demonic.

01:03:26.900 everything that you're dealing with is you've tapped into the frequency that the demonic realm

01:03:31.340 exists on when it cannot integrate with the physical realm yeah you know i almost wonder

01:03:36.540 with people with these supernatural gifts because supernatural gifts are as old as time i mean just

01:03:41.740 look at the prophets they clearly some of them had that communing with god they were showing

01:03:46.160 visions you look at john the disciple his spirit although timothy alberino doesn't believe in the

01:03:51.060 spiritual realm went to the kingdom of heaven right he went into the throne room and you look

01:03:56.200 at the telepathy tapes these kids awareness or spirit is clearly going somewhere else and i

01:04:02.520 wonder if that has to do and i don't do it anymore but i've done it twice in my life i wonder if that

01:04:07.340 has to do with the amount of dmt that we produce in our brains naturally because as you know we

01:04:12.960 produce very low levels of dmt all throughout our life kind of like serotonin and then as we're

01:04:18.200 dying you know whether that's abruptly uh dmt bomb goes off or even people in hospice right as

01:04:24.960 are dying, DMTs. And that's when these people start having these supernatural experiences.

01:04:29.380 And I wonder if these prophets or these, you know, psychics out there or these kids in the

01:04:36.180 telepathy tapes, their brains, for whatever reason, whether, you know, God decided to be that way,

01:04:41.460 it just produced more of this chemical, which allows them to, you know, experience the spiritual

01:04:46.460 realm. Well, I think the brain is a receiver of frequency. Imagine like an antenna, like a metal

01:04:52.400 one right that's like a rudimentary version that's kind of a mechanical harsh version a more refined

01:04:57.440 version would be like biomechanical and chemistry based and so our brain is a receiver of frequency

01:05:02.880 and we can tune into a number of different frequencies well just a sec just to explain that

01:05:06.920 the dmt stuff is chemical then there's frequency based ways i think there's more than there's

01:05:12.120 probably like 15 ways to get into this spiritual realm or thin that veil so dmt psilocybin marijuana

01:05:18.860 to a certain extent even like especially now what they go ahead and don't smoke k2 we uh we got a

01:05:23.940 bunch of spice boys listening to the damn show but you can go you can see some demons do that too

01:05:27.860 um then there then there are other man-made ways like uh the sra stuff the yeah the child abuse

01:05:35.260 stuff that we're seeing those are like that's that's a different technique then you have

01:05:39.040 government form techniques and i think david's about to touch on some of this government form

01:05:42.760 technique which is like in a way it's like biomechanical mixed with this wet technology

01:05:47.680 which is our our brain which is our god like our god-given abilities but then there's also people

01:05:53.160 that for some reason god created with the ability like yeah maybe that chemical does flow a little

01:05:58.800 bit more freely through their their mind through their body that they are able to communicate in

01:06:03.980 some way and those are those are god's people maybe those are the people that they're looking

01:06:07.200 for with the you know the the mk ultra the sigma programs yeah they it's a selection process right

01:06:13.840 like gates is looking for certain things i think there's a genetic aspect to it it's it's fascinating

01:06:20.020 to mention that um among what is it ashkenazi jewish that they have the highest per capita

01:06:25.220 rate of uh schizophrenia which schizophrenia is a uh spiritual disposition it's not a chemical

01:06:31.440 imbalance or maybe actually you know it's kind of interesting both right yeah it's like yeah but um

01:06:36.940 And I can't help but wonder if, let's say, a dump of DMT does one thing, could a dump of like adrenaline, you know, permanently change insufficient amounts? Could it permanently change the brain chemistry so that it's now receptive to, you know, a different frequency?

01:06:53.820 And I think that that is, if you look into schizophrenics, number one, I think a lot of what they're dealing with is generational iniquity. I think that these spiritual entities have access to a bloodline because of the sins of the father, and they get to go to work on people in childhood, where they typically wouldn't have access in childhood, not at least to the degree, right?

01:07:17.520 You have to sin and you have to consent and give a multitude of layers of access permissions.

01:07:23.120 It's like accepting the permissions on a thing for these entities to have access to you.

01:07:28.000 But if there's generational iniquity involved, a lot of that shit is removed and these entities

01:07:32.340 have access to children pretty early.

01:07:34.300 I think that that's why you find that most schizophrenics will have a lot of childhood

01:07:38.760 trauma, really extreme childhood trauma.

01:07:41.280 I think trauma, if I was going to speculate, maybe what it does is it destroys the adrenal

01:07:46.900 gland of a child. And it just saturates the brain in adrenaline, and permanently changes its makeup

01:07:52.940 so that it's more receptive to the frequencies that these things are on. And I think that when

01:07:57.280 we're looking at the telepathy tapes, kids, I'm going to use language here so that you don't

01:08:01.060 get flagged on YouTube. But you know, I'm asking the audience to kind of read between the lines

01:08:05.140 here. So if Puharic discovered that putting a implant in the tooth could enable the brain to

01:08:14.180 receive frequencies, then it would seem logical the next step would be to get a direct brain

01:08:20.580 implant. Now, that's not really practical. Through a dental procedure, you can get a pretty large,

01:08:26.880 what would you call it? Like testing ground, right? Everybody goes in for routine dental

01:08:31.480 procedures. Everybody gets this thing in their tooth. But not everybody gets cavity. I haven't

01:08:36.940 had a cavity in my life. I have a cavity right now. And I can't stand it. So

01:08:43.120 you know, you would get a lot of data from all these people that have these implants and you

01:08:48.720 would wait for that data to start rolling in. One of those is Lucille Ball with her implant. She

01:08:52.960 picks up Japanese insurgencies communicating and they actually thwart their plans because of Lucille

01:08:59.000 Ball and her dental implant. Now, eventually in the dental industry, they stopped using this

01:09:04.140 heavy metal, whatever it was inside the fillings. So now you have to figure out a different way.

01:09:09.280 let's say you got enough data that way. I think what they figured out is we have to go for the

01:09:13.360 brain next. Now, how often are you getting people with invasive brain surgery? That's not really

01:09:17.480 a thing, right? And you want it to roll out so you can get sufficient data like you did in the

01:09:23.320 dental procedures, but you have a problem. You don't want to go through the skull and anything

01:09:29.000 that is too large is never going to cross the blood brain barrier, right? You need to have

01:09:33.940 nanoparticles of metal to be able to cross the blood brain barrier. I honestly think that what

01:09:37.940 we're looking at let me see how to freeze this um there's a there's a childhood procedure we all get

01:09:44.360 them a lot of people are worried about what's in them right and that's something that rfk is talking

01:09:48.320 about me who i am they made me who i am they made me a little messed up uh rfk has been talking

01:09:52.600 about the dangers of them um as a matter of fact it's kind of interesting when you're looking at

01:09:56.920 i think rfk has actually proposed or maybe they're working on diminishing the amount of these uh

01:10:03.440 because they got they got sufficient data honestly they're like we're all good it's really

01:10:08.420 it's alarming we were at 72 or more yeah over the lifetime i had for me for our age what i had

01:10:14.880 16 around i don't know if i had that many maybe you had no it was 16 i'm older than you so for

01:10:20.080 me 16 it might have been increased for you unless your mom just didn't give you that many she might

01:10:24.380 not have yeah i don't know that my mom never really kept up but now they're they're decreasing

01:10:28.360 it again and i'm i'm like are they doing this because they're yeah they figured it out they're

01:10:31.880 good yeah or they're like we really love you guys and we don't want to hurt you anymore

01:10:35.160 maybe maybe well so um within these you know interventions uh people have speculated for a

01:10:41.660 long time that the thing that's causing all this damage to children is that there are heavy metals

01:10:46.200 inside of them right so you have heavy metals that are present in nanoparticle form so

01:10:54.100 and the other concern is that this is you look up the research this is what people are saying

01:10:59.080 those heavy metals are settling where they're settling in the brain and they're causing

01:11:04.100 a disassociative state autism and things like that so when you look at mk ultra not just that

01:11:09.580 like in the telepathy tapes does a great job of explaining the disassociation and they're not

01:11:15.800 afraid of like pointing at it the disassociation is so severe that the child after they begin to

01:11:21.880 spell and can communicate they go yeah it feels like i cannot i can't get in touch with my body

01:11:28.320 right the mother has to actually come and put a hand this it it throws it casts some uh dispersion

01:11:34.800 on the idea of spelling which is like where they're they're pointing to letters and spelling

01:11:39.220 out sentences and words they need a better word for that because when people hear spelling you're

01:11:43.040 like what are you talking about like asking a spell right right but they mean specifically

01:11:46.180 like guided spelling guided text on a on a keyboard but the kid can't even do that they they don't

01:11:51.840 have control their own faculties unless the mother or somebody close to them puts a hand on them and

01:11:57.140 the reason they're doing this is to like anchor them there yeah i'm giving you a physical touch

01:12:02.200 so you know where you are and the kids said to bring them back into the world to bring them back

01:12:07.280 into their physical body their spirit whatever they are is outside like like they are vibrating

01:12:13.900 on two different wavelengths yeah they're outside of their body they're disassociated effectively

01:12:18.260 yeah when the mother touches them it creates uh i mean i think it's it's you can do this with like

01:12:24.360 magnetism as well, where you can touch something and demagnetize or magnetize it, where you're

01:12:28.960 kind of creating a base state on something. When the mother does that with the hands and it could

01:12:33.140 just be a finger on the head or even just a touch on the shoulder, the kid can then associate his

01:12:38.180 body. It's like geolocation. It's crazy. And they explain this thoroughly in the tapes. That's

01:12:43.260 exactly what it is. You have effectively created a form of disassociation in children and we're

01:12:48.340 celebrating it because this is an advanced form. Right. Here's the number one podcast in the world.

01:12:52.540 But that's it. It's like couch that nanoparticle metal thing that I was talking about for just a second and go back to the MKUltra program.

01:12:58.540 The fundamental anchor point of their research is to create a state of disassociation by way of trauma.

01:13:05.620 And typically that looks insane. Right. That looks like you did it all the different ways we've we've seen like clockwork orange where you expose them to traumatic, you know, until they basically have no choice but to recede somewhere else because they can't physically escape.

01:13:18.440 um and that gives you a bunch of things it gives you like secondary programmable personalities

01:13:23.520 which gives you your kind of interiorian candidate uh angle right it also exposes or unlocks latent

01:13:30.160 psychic abilities and in those in those files by the way they're talking about that in the doj

01:13:35.740 files on epstein epstein is talking with somebody i forget who it is about disassociative states

01:13:41.320 unlocking supernatural abilities yeah so now what you have it's crazy is kids who because of this

01:13:47.920 process have maybe enough um metals in their brains that it has caused not only a state of

01:13:55.860 total disassociation where they can't even barely interact with their bodies but now they also have

01:14:01.600 heavy metals in their brain which are acting like a conductor of frequency so they are tuned in

01:14:08.020 literally tuned in dialed in to some other frequency that we don't have access to generally

01:14:12.980 speaking and they're completely in a permanent state of disassociation if i to me what i'm

01:14:18.580 looking at ben is like oh this is the fruits of the program this is like the ultimate version of

01:14:24.440 it you want to create a thing where they're disassociated but you don't even have to get

01:14:28.680 your hands dirty anymore and in fact you got people lining up to to have their kids you know

01:14:34.220 engage in this program because if not they're not gonna be able to go to school or enter you know

01:14:37.780 interact with the regular world or whatever. It's by law, basically. And you want to be able to get

01:14:43.600 a, by the way, even the frequency conducting thing is prevalent inside the abductee phenomenon,

01:14:49.620 right? Abductees will get an implant somewhere in their body. And sometimes they'll even have

01:14:54.860 enough information, whether it's imparted on them or otherwise to be like, yeah, it's so that I can

01:14:59.220 have two-way communication with this thing. I can hear it in my head every once in a while. It talks

01:15:03.200 to me meaning you know they're they're abductor um and and i think that a lot of what we're seeing

01:15:09.360 that we're identifying as like the alien phenomenon number one i don't believe in aliens

01:15:15.020 i think that this is a i think they are i think they're i want to say demons you say you're saying

01:15:21.080 these days as demons well i don't know if i'm saying they're demons i'm saying they're demonic

01:15:24.420 they're against the kingdom of god they do not have humanity's best interest at heart but i

01:15:27.680 actually think we're dealing with touche i mean yeah guilty as charged um i think we're dealing

01:15:34.080 with a blending of the demonic spiritual realm and government uh government intelligence agencies

01:15:42.660 yes yes and and what people are describing as because that's what so many people will describe

01:15:47.040 being abducted but then they'll describe that military personnel are present during this

01:15:51.180 abduction or or science personnel or medical personnel you know i wonder about that i always

01:15:55.720 wondered if i think we've reversed engineer craft and i almost wonder if we pick these people up

01:16:02.740 and then they take them down to one of these underground dumps or something like that these

01:16:06.720 underground bases and that's where it's really going on people are seeing them people aren't

01:16:10.440 seeing these things coming from space now within the greater uap community which uap is just a

01:16:15.620 rebranding by hillary clinton and john podesta last time they almost got exposed i don't even

01:16:20.680 know if i want to use the word exposed i don't know what's happening but last time you know

01:16:25.420 information was coming out about their nefarious comings and goings um they decided to rebrand

01:16:30.740 this phenomenon the uap phenomenon and within that community of research now they're like oh

01:16:34.980 yeah these things are coming from our oceans they're not coming from space they're coming

01:16:38.680 from our oceans so another guy uh representative burleson tim burleson i believe his name is

01:16:45.460 was this the guy that was on merkel's show the guy that was on merkel's show he's on uh he was

01:16:49.780 on tim cast he's the dude that is is all in on exposing this ufo stuff he's the guy that we got

01:16:56.300 the video i have a video of him saying like oh yeah i met this guy named albarino great dude

01:17:01.960 dressed like indiana jones that's him and then he goes came out of nowhere which is true but

01:17:08.800 not necessarily he went away for a while and then came out of nowhere and he goes all i know is the

01:17:13.220 guy goes around and he does great research he does great research and he's got like you know

01:17:17.220 he's got some billionaire backer and i'm just like they just turn the video off before they

01:17:21.080 you know send a drone to my house but yeah all this stinks well i just uh not to pick up like

01:17:29.840 that but i just have a question for you guys because we were talking about this disassociative

01:17:34.260 state uh we're talking about the telepathy tapes um you brought up schizophrenia and anytime you

01:17:41.140 bring up schizophrenia i'm immediately reminded of dr jerry marzynski right absolutely and that is

01:17:46.600 after listening to him talk, it completely changed my view on all of that. And I'll just

01:17:50.680 tell a quick story, which was pretty funny. I was driving in my mobile ministry or Uber,

01:17:55.520 and there was a quote unquote schizophrenic who got in the back seat. And I could kind of tell

01:18:00.080 he was a little, you know, off there. And as I'm driving, he starts talking and immediately I go,

01:18:06.540 oh crap, there is some type of demonic presence in my car, some type of entity that he's talking

01:18:12.580 to and i go god please protect me put the full armor god and then i pull up to a stop sign

01:18:17.560 and i turn around i look him dead in the eyes i go who are you talking to dude and he goes

01:18:22.840 i'm like no no no no no i i believe you uh what does this entity that you're talking to

01:18:29.860 like look like or sound like and i kid you not he stares me straight in the eyes

01:18:34.220 his eyes kind of like that a little bit he goes who says it's one it's mini i was like oh shit

01:18:40.620 but i guess the question i have about dairy marzinski because he is really pushing this

01:18:49.000 right now which i agree with 100 um i've never heard him talk about a spiritual solution though

01:18:56.100 as far as the power of jesus the power of the holy spirit the power of the full armor god

01:19:00.980 do you know if he does that has he come to that full circle yet he he's not a christian no he

01:19:08.280 hasn't he pushes a solution called uh the mace solution which is a frequency based which is a

01:19:14.600 frequency based solution um the the closest that he's gotten and again not my job to uh change his

01:19:21.400 methods or whatever i look at jerry as a guy that has a body of experience and i just like listen

01:19:27.280 to it and i hear what he's saying and i go checks out um but the closest that he's got is uh the

01:19:33.060 the 23rd psalm i believe well he he does kind of he i mean number one he says demons is the best

01:19:39.140 way to describe what they're dealing with um yeah but never i i've never heard him propose a jesus

01:19:44.540 solution that is correct i've never heard that because i always found it interesting that he

01:19:47.760 would always say you know these voices hated psalms they hated this bible passage um clearly

01:19:53.740 talking about as if they're demons so you would think you know that the natural progression of

01:19:59.440 that thought is it's a spiritual problem and the spiritual solution beyond just the frequencies i

01:20:06.380 think it could be a holistic approach maybe encompasses everything but i would have thought

01:20:10.600 that is his website right now so he's got at the bottom the biggest lie ever told is that the devil

01:20:16.200 doesn't exist and the biggest lie is that people are powerless the next biggest lie is that people

01:20:21.840 are powerless therefore helpless and if you kind of skim through like uh here's a sentence he says

01:20:27.360 they're even more pleased when you view the Bible as irrelevant to the issue.

01:20:31.460 Okay, here, actually, I'm gonna read this whole thing. This is from his page. It says they are

01:20:34.780 thrilled that you ignore the 25 or more times the Bible depicts depicts Jesus casting out demons.

01:20:43.100 They're even more pleased when you view the Bible as irrelevant to the issue. They prefer

01:20:49.080 you don't believe that or that you believe science is God and demons don't exist. So

01:20:53.540 i think what we're dealing with here is like marzinski is a guy who is immersed in the medical

01:20:59.160 industry for a really long time and in his in his old age i mean marzinski's an elderly dude

01:21:06.060 um i know that my walk with christ as i as i came i came very slowly in the beginning and i find

01:21:13.100 that i'm speeding up as time goes uh in my convictions but imagine if you spent 40 years

01:21:20.360 being like this is not the case the thing that gave me my my license is telling me that this

01:21:27.580 is all brain chemical um and now he's come to this place so there is there is man i mean he's

01:21:32.920 talking about it on his website and he's talking i i what i remember him saying is in conjunction

01:21:38.340 with the frequency-based technology is scripture but i don't know how how deep he goes into that

01:21:45.240 i don't think to be honest for the record though this is no slight on jerry i know i like the

01:21:50.200 question like i said this has nothing to do with him when i when i call out people you'll know when

01:21:54.980 i call out people um i just was curious if you've uh you know talked to him about that stuff no well

01:22:02.220 no we we haven't talked to him about it either because to be honest when you're like when you're

01:22:06.260 casting out a demon i think the the person to talk to him and really what jerry should be looking

01:22:10.660 into is like ed mabry's doing a spiritual warfare uh course where you're going to be able it's like

01:22:17.020 he's going to go through the different forms of spiritual warfare like yeah a lot of people will

01:22:21.500 say in the name of jesus leave this thing might not leave but jesus says himself this this doesn't

01:22:25.860 come out with fasting and prayer this doesn't come out but with fasting and prayer there are

01:22:29.520 probably other techniques for certain entities and it's like for a guy like jerry who's dealing

01:22:33.780 with the nuts and bolts of this i don't know i'd i'd almost prefer don't tell people yeah uh say

01:22:39.940 the name of jesus it'll go because it most likely won't like there are probably techniques within

01:22:44.260 this there this is spiritual warfare you actually need different kind of weapons for different

01:22:48.560 entities yeah if you're those what we're dealing with at this point if you're so deep in that you're

01:22:52.540 you're schizophrenic that's a much different thing than a lot of like i've casted things out

01:22:57.740 of my room you know i've casted things out in that particular story that i that i told you about or i

01:23:03.200 I, well, I casted things out as less accurate than I asked Christ to, um, but it's another

01:23:10.240 thing to be audibly hearing them, uh, seeing them, you know, you're, you're probably in

01:23:15.540 layers deeper, probably just takes some actual work because even after I, I have casted things

01:23:21.100 out, I realized that there is a process that you have to go through.

01:23:25.040 And I probably still am like going through that process.

01:23:27.520 It's like house cleaning, right?

01:23:29.080 Like I think throughout your life, I think that my condition, as it were, was a was a result of generational iniquity.

01:23:40.280 My grandmother was a lifelong abductee victim and she died of alcohol related diseases.

01:23:48.940 I don't know. Was it your liver that gets destroyed?

01:23:50.880 And so when she was way too young and she was probably in her 40s when she passed and she had a couple of kids.

01:23:59.080 you know one of them was put up for adoption and then the other two one being my mom my mom is

01:24:05.120 all right but still has like there's she's seen stuff and heard stuff and seen little shadows

01:24:10.920 running around the house her sister is full-blown schizophrenic like think about the worst version

01:24:15.980 of a schizophrenic you know condition that you can think of that's my aunt she has two kids

01:24:22.820 immediately one of them is hearing voices in childhood you know a child he's a kid and it's

01:24:28.560 telling him to kill himself to run away and somebody's out to get him he's seen things all

01:24:33.620 this crap um so i think deliverance is probably about the best word that i've seen to describe

01:24:41.340 like what it is you have to go through i'll be honest and this might be it might be a misstep

01:24:45.400 but i don't i wouldn't want i i i view jerry as uh like education yeah you know like here's the

01:24:54.980 problem i wouldn't i wouldn't suggest any of his solutions the mace method something that i've

01:25:01.380 heard of i looked into it a little bit i was like yeah i don't know that's not a solution i prefer

01:25:06.580 the christ method yeah i mean jerry is tied up with uh brian from demon erasers and i'll be

01:25:12.420 honest with your audience i wouldn't suggest that either i think that when you're doing spiritual

01:25:16.600 warfare what demon erasers is doing well so i don't know i don't they they have a relationship

01:25:23.420 right like brian and jerry i know they did for a time i don't know if it's an ongoing one i think

01:25:27.500 they kind of like did a bit of a whirlwind tour for a grip there i imagine they're probably still

01:25:31.500 in contact but i don't think that that's a consistent thing yeah in a sense with that duo

01:25:35.360 you'd have something like uh education of what schizophrenia is and then you'd have solution

01:25:39.940 which is exorcism is what brian is suggesting that he's doing all good and fine for me if i was

01:25:46.300 if i was dealing with that i would uh i would go more of the ed mabry right where i would equip

01:25:51.580 myself with the tools because i don't think it's not that i don't think i know for sure

01:25:55.840 if you exercise something and you don't clean your house yeah and keep it clean yeah jesus said like

01:26:01.880 yeah it would be better for you to have this demon because now like there's seven times more

01:26:06.820 coming back yeah so yeah unless you unless you have faith in god i think the demons i mean the

01:26:12.020 jesus solution is temporary right because these voices demons you know spirits have principality

01:26:18.980 over you legally they're allowed to be there so unless you have true faith i think the best that

01:26:24.900 you know invoking jesus can do if you don't is a temporary release or relief but i think they have

01:26:30.960 legal you know ownership over you to a certain extent and maybe you do like i don't know like

01:26:35.820 some let's say somebody's like 700 pounds i wouldn't suggest those zempic to anybody but

01:26:40.240 i'm like hey dude if you're in that big of a hole get some weight off you you know and then

01:26:45.140 use that momentum then then you can walk yeah and continue to lose but like that's i don't i don't

01:26:50.760 know this is not medical advice or spiritual advice i'm just saying like there i think there

01:26:57.260 are steps and you have to equip yourself or this will never stop yeah so if i'm asking a jerry

01:27:04.520 marzinski and this is not to cut him any slack either but i i don't i don't just don't see him

01:27:08.880 as that tool the same way i don't see myself as a tool to be like you know all right all right go

01:27:12.960 ahead uh top close the show get this guy saved no no no that's not that's not my tool well my tool

01:27:18.320 is to show you that i'm showing you the way that i go and i'm showing you the door but then you

01:27:23.080 got to walk the walk you got to walk through it and there's other dudes that'll walk you through

01:27:26.640 it and there's other dudes that can probably help you seal the deal not me not that's not jerry's

01:27:31.900 job and if we if we call somebody like that to do that i think we're calling for some catastrophic

01:27:37.520 uh solutions or catastrophic uh what's the correct word like final catastrophic false uh false sense

01:27:46.940 of security you know what i mean like it could be worse for the person what i went through and i and

01:27:51.260 i think i'm still you know there's still like house cleaning to do but it was like okay i called

01:27:55.440 on christ that first time and then i started moving in that direction and as i did interestingly

01:28:01.180 enough i had like a real heightened when i first moved to florida it was like it was uh uh just a

01:28:08.200 bukkake of of horrifying spiritual experiences like things banging on my windows my garage gets

01:28:16.340 filled with black flies my niece sees like a dude standing in her window at night um there's just so

01:28:23.420 much crap and it didn't seem to end eventually i get to a place where like you know there's there's

01:28:30.600 repentance involved. But even that is just like a layered thing. I think repentance is a process

01:28:36.660 because I think the more you can remember intimately the ways that you've transgressed,

01:28:44.120 the ways that you've sinned, and the more you can earnestly ask for forgiveness for these things,

01:28:50.960 the better the load gets, the lighter the load gets. Then eventually I went through one

01:28:55.080 deliverance process with Laura Baker, who's fantastic. And I realized that with Laura,

01:29:00.600 what she did for me was she helped me to um understand how i how i want to frame this

01:29:06.400 like what am i saying what am i asking for if i'm going through a deliverance process

01:29:09.280 and she's talking about things that i've come into agreement with you know um generational

01:29:15.920 iniquity a multitude of things and i could feel because at the time i was i was going through

01:29:21.880 deliverance because my life was getting odd and wonky and you know spiritual things were happening

01:29:26.320 and it worked and when i sat back and i thought like okay she was training will she helped me out

01:29:32.620 now i know what i'm bringing to god what i'm bringing to him is like i have a lifetime of

01:29:40.180 things that i've come into agreement with and because it's not that simple it's almost a joke

01:29:44.720 right that you're gonna sit there one day be like god forgive me of all my sins break all these bonds

01:29:49.320 free me of these things and then like that's a pill right like this is like the modern day

01:29:53.920 Yeah. And then you go like, well, that didn't work. I'm still having sleep paralysis and all

01:29:57.320 this other crap. Like, Hey dude, you got to, you have a lot of work to do, but I'm claiming price

01:30:02.300 is King. Why is this stuff still happening? Why is it not working? Yeah, exactly. It's like, no,

01:30:06.740 dude, this is, there are so many different legally binding contracts, ways that these

01:30:12.600 things have access to that you have signed. And then, and then some that you didn't sign some

01:30:16.900 that literally are, you know, the sins of your fathers get passed down as many as seven generations.

01:30:21.880 but the good news is they're coming for a debt that needs payment christ has already paid that

01:30:27.760 debt and you just need to call on that and ask you know to be free to know you have to know to

01:30:33.060 know what like i mean think about it i i sit in front of my tablet sometimes i'm an artist and

01:30:38.640 i'm like what do i do right is there any direction is there any or somebody a client's like hey make

01:30:46.100 me a logo perfect here's a blank paper i have no idea what to do yeah it's the same thing but once

01:30:53.000 you have this direction then you can start to fill in these lines and the better direction

01:30:56.440 you can fill in more lines and then i think at a certain point you're like okay well i have i have

01:31:01.140 a lot of this picture and now i can really fill the rest of this out and then ultimately ultimately

01:31:06.720 through that what you're doing is you're you're communicating with god with with a with the

01:31:12.880 creator of the universe who is very real and you can ask through that process which i've done

01:31:17.820 is like send holy spirit to reveal things to me things that i've forgotten about things that

01:31:22.480 you know guide me keep me on your path etc etc it's a walk it's a process but through that what

01:31:27.480 happens is you start communicating with god which in my opinion is the ultimate solution

01:31:32.940 your own personal relationship with a god who loves you who came in the flesh who died for

01:31:40.300 your sins, who defeated death and came back. That is a real, an absolute real person. A person is

01:31:47.920 reductive. But you know what I'm saying? Like, this isn't a theory or a concept. And this is

01:31:52.820 somebody that you can and should be communicating with. And that ultimately, like the work and the

01:31:59.380 communication, the relationship is what is going to stop these things. And I don't know what that

01:32:05.060 looks like. Everybody's is different. You know, like you may be able to. I had to say a bunch of

01:32:09.160 racial slurs to get there right every time god was like yeah yeah you're gonna ask me for advice

01:32:14.840 i don't know yeah yeah yeah but you know people will they'll they'll have sleep paralysis and

01:32:19.620 they'll call out on the name of jesus and it'll stop doesn't always stop but most of the time it

01:32:23.440 does people will have alien abductions and they'll call out in the name of jesus and those will stop

01:32:28.300 doesn't always stop but a lot of times it does and then you know everybody wants to separate that

01:32:33.020 thing you know that i think that's ultimately like where we've been at recently among the epstein

01:32:38.240 files and everything is like whatever's going on whatever's going on with disclosure just to bring

01:32:43.060 it back in that direction whatever's going on whatever they tell you never forget never forget

01:32:48.600 that in a huge percentage of these alien abduction phenomenons and we just laid out like look that

01:32:53.200 that work is long these aliens are demonic in my opinion because in a huge percentage of them

01:32:57.880 they stop when you call on christ anybody who tries to tell you that they're not they're not

01:33:03.200 demons they're not demonic if you say that you're an asshole the idea that they stop at all should

01:33:09.900 be like the number one thing that everybody is pointing at well wait wait why is that happening

01:33:15.800 why is that happening how come encrypted encounters demonic sleep paralysis encounters

01:33:21.200 and alien abduction phenomenon if you call on christ a huge percentage of them will stop

01:33:25.700 yeah why is it happening at all it doesn't happen all the time hey dude you're gonna have uh demonic

01:33:31.120 encounters if you're suffering from generational iniquity and came into agreement with a bunch of

01:33:34.580 spirits and did a bunch of stupid things that opened up contracts and all this other shit

01:33:37.460 you can chip away at that and you can work at it and it absolutely does work just because it doesn't

01:33:41.560 work in one blanket moment doesn't mean that you don't understand the nature of these things the

01:33:45.740 nature of them are demonic it's demonic right so it doesn't matter if it doesn't work all the time

01:33:50.980 with aliens dude the fact that it works at all is like stop the press stop the press wait a second

01:33:56.020 these things stop in the name of jesus what does that make them what what does that make them

01:34:01.580 because right now there's a huge effort to be like these things aren't demonic

01:34:05.300 and that's bullshit um real quick how much time do you guys got left available a little bit time

01:34:11.460 what time is it uh we can do it for an hour 34 okay yeah we got some time uh cool you mind if

01:34:17.480 i go pee real quick i'm about to piss my pants and we'll get on going with it good idea i gotta

01:34:22.100 Yeah, we'll take a pee break.

01:34:23.680 Pause it.

01:34:24.880 I got a...

01:34:25.740 Oh, shit.

01:34:26.200 I had something to eat.

01:34:26.880 I'm getting nauseous.

01:34:27.900 Actually, I've been nauseous.

01:34:29.600 Go get a...

01:34:31.240 Get a pastry.

01:34:33.900 No, no pastries, dude.

01:34:36.180 Who's that going to see your gun?

01:34:40.820 I love this.

01:34:41.740 Pee break.

01:34:42.580 Pee break.

01:34:43.600 Pee break.

01:34:45.200 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

01:34:46.720 Oh, every time.

01:34:52.100 Thank you.

01:35:22.100 and we're back

01:35:48.340 I'm going to edit this

01:35:53.100 Well, if you're listening, I hope you're enjoying the podcast.

01:36:00.880 But I'll probably edit this out, the pee break.

01:36:22.100 what is all this dude we're out what is all this milk we're still doing this show we just have

01:36:38.340 what is this stop oh and they're red onions okay put it in a picture and let's go

01:36:48.280 who's that is that matt in the door what are you doing

01:36:51.940 right they're back there they're doing their keeping class oh not good on that brush tooth

01:36:59.960 mouth you just brush your teeth well before i came here i brushed my teeth a weirdo tastes

01:37:04.260 bad okay we're back all right we back i can focus again my knee was starting to go i was like i

01:37:10.120 don't know if i can last another 15 minutes of this thing i might just pee my pants so

01:37:13.420 we're back your knee oh he's starting to like shaking my knee just like like listening but

01:37:19.680 just like oh i gotta go um so we're back where were we alien disclosure well maybe let's bring

01:37:26.140 this full circle now big picture we touched on the epstein files did we miss anything there we

01:37:32.820 We touched on Albarino being a shill.

01:37:36.240 We touched on the supernatural and the Bible.

01:37:40.240 If you have any predictions, you know, what you think is going to unfold,

01:37:44.800 let's get into that right now.

01:37:46.660 I have three likelihoods that have only been,

01:37:51.680 they've only become more likely since I tweeted about them.

01:37:54.500 So right after the Epstein files dropped, it was on a Friday,

01:37:58.180 I think that's Saturday, I tweeted,

01:38:00.140 i expect to see one of three things or or an amalgamation of three things take place

01:38:04.960 um the full-on collapse of the dollar um the a nuclear exchange between iran and israel which

01:38:16.460 nowadays i'm getting a little bit more i'm not not so sure it'll just be israel i think they

01:38:21.880 might drag us into it one way or another because it looks like now we're getting into a conflict

01:38:26.300 with Iran and disclosure. And disclosure, I thought was going to be a little bit further

01:38:33.360 off. You know, with these files, what I've been expecting is the last time we got anything

01:38:39.860 Epstein related, we kind of mulled over it. 2019 was like the height of it. We chewed on that for

01:38:48.380 a long time. For the better part of a year, we had the Q thing going on and all the speculation

01:38:54.840 and patriots in control and and then it really rolled into the whole like podesta and all his

01:38:59.960 art and marina umbromovic and the spirit cooking and um you know hillary clinton getting pushed

01:39:06.840 into a van uh yeah remember that yeah remember the the the card that was handed around george

01:39:13.620 bush senior's um funeral we chewed on that it was a saga dude like people kind of forget how much

01:39:20.920 we went through during that time look at what we've been through look at what we've been through

01:39:25.980 it was the best uh so so and then we had you know the vid and they shut down the world and everything

01:39:31.600 went crazy so i expected that we would chew on these files for a while and i said the doj releases

01:39:41.200 it and the first line of um unwitting participants are morons like us we're going to sleuth through

01:39:51.640 these files and the more compelling stories will raise you know rise to the top and these will be

01:39:58.720 the things that eventually uh higher level podcasters will talk about and then you keep

01:40:04.620 that trend on and eventually mainstream will get some like really watered down version but still

01:40:10.440 like pretty harrowing but they won't have gone through all the crazy crap like we did where we

01:40:14.800 you know gouged our eyes out looking into the abyss um whatever is the most compelling is what

01:40:20.720 they'll deliver to the general public now i'm not too sure because it's been two weeks and rogan's

01:40:27.780 already had a guy from hollywood on he's a hollywood producer and he's talking about for

01:40:32.480 sure they're eating babies they're sacrificing all this other crap i'm like i go that happened

01:40:37.900 a little bit faster than i thought and then there's a time frame like i said there is a time

01:40:42.120 frame and they know that the public with what they released i thought it was going to be three

01:40:46.100 to six months i i'm i think i'm i've used to be better you have to understand uh what's the word

01:40:53.840 um now i'm gonna say equation because i'm an idiot uh which is like one number in the little

01:40:59.540 number at the bot at the top fractions no no oh um exponents like third power yeah exponents good

01:41:06.100 call exponential yeah there we go i'm an idiot hey we did it though yeah we did it

01:41:13.780 exponential time frame like the time frame on stories has every time one of these major stories

01:41:19.140 is released it's kind of like if you think about dispositions um and the distance if you adhere to

01:41:25.060 what like you know the the speed of light theory that ed ed maybe proposes oh then it degrades

01:41:30.260 after yeah yeah and it degrades in such a way that is like uh the speed of light when it's

01:41:35.060 measurable it's exponential yeah so from the fall of the garden to adam there's a there's a degree of

01:41:43.860 light that's a separation that's gone and then from then to the to the diluvian period the

01:41:48.180 antediluvian period in the flood there's another one and then it continues to go on and there are

01:41:52.880 moments within the bible and history that you could look at and they actually measure the speed

01:41:57.580 of light throughout time or what they say that they can and every every iterance of it it gets

01:42:03.380 larger it doubles and then it it quadruples yeah and i feel like that's what's happening with these

01:42:08.780 stories like but it's it's doing it in an inverse manner so like as as these huge stories break

01:42:14.640 maybe it was three to six maybe it was like i don't know covid it happened uh so then we had

01:42:19.300 six years oh so we just went through these past two weeks are what we could refer to as a uh 20

01:42:26.500 2019 three to six months right yeah yeah but now that now we're down to like three weeks yeah well

01:42:33.360 something like that you know i think that we are i mean i guess we are going to see that i guess we

01:42:37.580 just did a better job than we thought we did sleuthing through these things and and finding

01:42:41.880 the more compelling things you know they're cutting baby's feet open with scimitars and

01:42:45.320 they're drinking chalices of blood and they're dismembering the babies and eating fecal matter

01:42:48.640 from the intestines no big deal that's in there and um you know next i guess what would have to

01:42:56.880 happen is we would have to maybe mobilize maybe there'll be some mobilization you would see some

01:43:05.440 black lives matter like riots and protests it would have to reach a boiling point

01:43:11.900 where it was either intervene or collapse and i think the intervention would be the disclosure

01:43:18.540 yeah you know it's interesting when you start looking at the stuff coming out of the epstein

01:43:22.580 files i noticed a couple things one it reaffirms or reconfirms or strengthens everything that

01:43:28.940 conspiracy theorists thought very dangerous it's also introducing these ideas to the general public

01:43:36.660 for the first time like we've never seen however however there's no real teeth in the epstein files

01:43:43.460 no real teeth all it really does is pull some old bloodline families through the mud and embarrasses

01:43:49.800 them and no one's going to go to jail so for the first time you're going to start seeing the general

01:43:55.400 public watching this co-opted government by a bunch of demonic pedophiles uh operating without

01:44:03.340 any consequences and i think that that's just going to foment and that's going to foment which

01:44:08.760 is all by plan and i think they'll redact some more stuff they'll get you some more and more

01:44:13.580 stuff and then eventually you know to your point they're going to drop the hammer and then say

01:44:19.060 what's up to you know what's the hezbollah or the final thing that happens if israel gets attacked

01:44:24.820 get ready i mean that well it's an option and the one thing i do think is when we talk about this

01:44:33.260 stuff is i think it's important that we talk about it with the nuance that it deserves i think it's

01:44:40.680 important because to your point we then become unwilling participants to the zio cartel and

01:44:48.600 their prophetic wet dreams. Theodor Herzl, the godfather of modern Zionism, right? Atheist,

01:44:57.500 Jew. But if you're coming up with those ideas and we know how if you communicate with that

01:45:01.220 spiritual realm, you're getting downloads for this type of stuff. I mean, he's quoted in saying

01:45:06.300 the anti-Semite will be our best friend and the anti-Semitic countries will be our best allies.

01:45:12.840 and you see that unfolding and by the actions of the idea by the actions of the Mossad Epstein

01:45:19.760 network um and the fact that they're releasing this it's truly incredible to watch their prophetic

01:45:27.260 wet dream from all the way back in 1800s right when this guy came on the scene actually come

01:45:33.200 full circle and it's going down I think what we're there's a high likelihood what we're actually

01:45:38.960 going to see is sort of like uh donnie darken puts it best and you know obviously that guy's

01:45:43.800 got a lot of issues but i think he nailed it when he talked about the beast system overthrowing the

01:45:50.180 harlot system i think we may actually see arrests i think we may actually see the fruition because

01:45:56.000 i think the the purpose of creating a q anon narrative and also an unbelievable bad guy of

01:46:04.900 monumental proportions is to defeat that bad guy and be perceived then as the good guy and i think

01:46:12.300 that it that system may likely include some sort of like alien presence or whatever like i don't

01:46:19.300 know something working within the government to try to get this out of the way so that humanity

01:46:23.800 can you know ascend and i think that out of that likely comes an antichrist but i don't think that

01:46:30.900 we got to this point in the theater to fumble such an unbelievable antagonist the antagonist

01:46:39.340 being this system this system if it's if it's the harlot you know it's this debaucherous sexually

01:46:46.660 perverse you know everybody's had enough of it on the surface just the cultural implications of it

01:46:52.820 but then the underbelly of it is even worse it's child sacrifice and it's it's all your worst

01:46:58.160 nightmares and then but there is some element of good guys and i think that those good guys

01:47:04.660 want to take the place of christ they are anti-christ they they want to stand in the position

01:47:10.000 of jesus as as a savior and so i think there's a high likelihood dude that we don't get a nothing

01:47:16.840 happens type of scenario in my estimation looking at all the plot devices that are in place we're at

01:47:23.680 this really magnificent crescendo of a great piece of theater but don't fall for it don't fall for it

01:47:29.960 because to present you a thing that is anti-christ well it certainly has to be done in a in a in a

01:47:36.760 fantastic way right um we have to be liberated from the ultimate bad guy with ai right with ai

01:47:44.960 with aliens with all types of shit um i think we i like i'm saying i just see too many really

01:47:51.440 fantastic plot devices that um it would make it would be unbelievable to fumble at this point in

01:47:58.740 the game they have to pull that lever shoot the fireworks off expose the big baddies you know

01:48:05.480 destroy them in a big way but the problem is you have to catch the audience up to speed what good

01:48:10.940 are your unbelievable plot devices if the audience doesn't catch them and there are some things that

01:48:16.580 it's okay for the main audience to not catch because there is a sub level of audience who

01:48:21.080 pays it's like where you have layers of a story there's one for the main audience but then the

01:48:25.400 ones who really care about the art the critical thinkers they see a subplot level um that you

01:48:31.280 know i would say basically as conspiracy theorists they have to aim at us they have to aim at us they

01:48:35.400 have to convince us of a thing so but first you do have to catch everybody up to speed you got to

01:48:41.680 catch up the conspiracy theorist to the subplot you got to catch up the main audience to the

01:48:46.160 overarching plot and then you got to pull the trigger watch the baddie fry and everybody and

01:48:51.460 then you know hey if they do a couple other things by the way like uh biden if there's there's uh

01:48:56.620 emails about him wearing a rubber mask and it not really being biden and that biden himself

01:49:01.080 died in a firing squad uh back in 2019 and that the dude that we've been watching is you know

01:49:06.740 somebody in a mask so if there's an additional layer of plot where like we got rid of them a

01:49:14.520 long time ago we had to keep business as usual going on because if we revealed it to you q anon

01:49:21.480 style right you know this is where the q anon they're going to catch the q people dude they

01:49:25.180 are going to catch them so hard because they're going to fall for what we're going to be tempted

01:49:29.500 to fall for which is vindication and that vindication is going to you know cast scales

01:49:33.820 over their eyes like nobody's business but um we got rid of all the bad players yeah hillary

01:49:38.960 clinton was forced into a van in that video that you saw and then she was brought to you know a

01:49:44.400 firing squad biden was all this stuff we couldn't tell you because the general public would have

01:49:49.540 never understood we had to reveal their sins to you there is an interesting quote that i've been

01:49:54.920 left with recently and i remembered where it came from i was like where did this come from why do i

01:49:59.240 know this there was a guy that i was listening to and you know it's just a testimony but it's a it's

01:50:04.220 a genuine testimony well if anybody's testimony is genuine there's no way to prove it right but

01:50:10.020 This guy, he had been recruited by dark entities in childhood, and he was going about doing all kinds of demonic crap and selling drugs and recruiting people and, you know, all kinds of just.

01:50:22.780 And eventually he turns his life over to Christ and he realizes, you know, the error of his ways.

01:50:28.740 He then has this really interrelationship with Holy Spirit where Holy Spirit is revealing things to him.

01:50:34.220 And one of the things that it revealed, and I don't know, I'm not saying that this is true, right?

01:50:40.020 it's just also something that cliff high said cliff high anticipated that there was going to

01:50:45.480 be a rapture event but the way that he interpreted it from his ai data scraping machine was that it

01:50:51.320 would be the illusion of one um and that people across the bible belt of america would come away

01:50:58.100 feeling like they saw a shit ton of people get raptured but they themselves weren't raptured

01:51:02.360 interesting interesting that he should have that in his data set i don't know what to do with that

01:51:06.220 i'm not a pre-trib guy or post-trib guy i don't really know i don't know anything i'm an idiot

01:51:09.700 um but this other guy who has this testimony who gets tight with the holy spirit holy spirit

01:51:15.100 reveals to him allegedly that there would come a time a season he didn't know when it was i heard

01:51:20.360 this a year ago and it was surely recorded way earlier than a year ago it just took a while to

01:51:26.060 release um there would be a season he doesn't know what that means what kind of time frame that is

01:51:33.420 that the sins of our leaders would be revealed to us and then within that season and he does he's

01:51:41.320 like i don't know if that's weeks months no idea this is just what he got within that season

01:51:46.080 a rapture would happen and i go man that's fascinating i don't know what to do with that

01:51:53.220 ben i'm not saying that that's that's gospel that's scripture that's anything that anybody

01:51:57.100 should take to the bank i'm just telling you what i heard and it resonated with me in a certain way

01:52:01.040 and i went man that's fascinating yeah and what does that mean does that mean that a real rapture

01:52:05.740 would take place if it did happen or would it be a false rapture that would be facilitated by

01:52:09.700 something i have no idea like i like ben from uh this venice the menace oh yeah yeah uh podcast

01:52:15.060 his idea on on the idea of the rapture the pre-trib rapture specifically being a falsity

01:52:20.880 like a zionist falsity because this is all kind of like well how do you get people behind it how

01:52:24.940 do you guys get people to root on their own destruction and the antichrist well don't worry

01:52:29.260 you don't have to be here all the good Christians get to go home early yeah well his his theory that

01:52:35.160 he proposes actually quite interesting I'll give you my take on the whole and how this

01:52:39.960 might end but uh his take on that was uh if you tell people that there will be a pre-trib rapture

01:52:47.620 and then you do it but the people who get raptured are like you know I don't know maybe

01:52:54.340 some strategically taken maybe some randomly taken you know maybe people who aren't Christians

01:52:58.140 Maybe Christians get left behind. Maybe it's an alien rapture, like kind of how UFOs just

01:53:03.240 beam people up or abduct people. Yeah, that possibility is on the table. But what do I

01:53:08.240 tell the body of Christ that believes in a pre-trib rapture when half of them are gone

01:53:14.000 and half of them are here? And then they're left to argue about, was my doctrine correct?

01:53:19.020 Was my doctrine incorrect? It gets really messy. You're going to go to whoever had the

01:53:23.800 doctrine of pre-trib rapture. And most of those people are hardcore Zionists. So again, now, I

01:53:30.500 mean, I have no idea how that plays out. And then he's like the funding for Israel would go through

01:53:34.080 the roof after that, which I don't know. I don't know. I'm just, you know, that's an interesting

01:53:37.580 observation. It gets really messy because again, yeah, if that is incorrect, if the pre-trib

01:53:42.460 rapture does not happen and somebody kind of, you know, makes it look like that, which again,

01:53:48.500 And we have that idea from Cliff High where he said the people in the Bible Belt are going to see a rapture and be confused about it.

01:53:57.100 But the way he interpreted it was like it might be like a sort of hallucination and it might even be facilitated by a chemical.

01:54:04.760 And he's just like, you know how it's you're getting words and phrases that he's just trying to piece together a story.

01:54:11.540 So I'm not attributing malice to even Cliff High.

01:54:14.620 I think he's, he's wrong about a lot of things, but I think he is genuinely trying to like

01:54:18.860 play, you know, word he's, he's, he's, he's delivered a word salad.

01:54:23.360 He's got to try to make sense of it.

01:54:24.840 Um, and he got Canada, Canada was one of the elements of this.

01:54:28.660 And he's like, uh, something led him to believe, could this be a substance that's manufactured

01:54:33.640 in Canada and then deployed across the Bible belt, causing a sort of a mass psychosis.

01:54:40.040 Either way, if that's wrong, what happens to the body of Christ in the church?

01:54:44.620 They're going to be chaos, fractured.

01:54:47.180 And then whoever comes in with a solution for them or an adequate answer, that's what everybody's going to cleave to.

01:54:53.220 And God, man, I don't want to know what that solution is, but you can.

01:54:56.920 I mean, when we're talking about the ultimate deception, people think that they avoided it.

01:55:01.100 Nah, man, I think that's going to be it.

01:55:02.700 Whatever comes in as that solution is presented to the church, that's going to be the solution.

01:55:07.320 And also, I mean, the rest of America or the world, if they're like, hey, a rapture happened, get in the church.

01:55:12.060 people are going to be flocking to the churches all and all it takes is for this one deception

01:55:16.660 to twist the word of god and be the new doctrine and and don't say it can't happen because again

01:55:22.040 like we're most people are reading from the schofield bible like most of our interpretation

01:55:25.920 of the modern church is incorrect largely incorrect that's why most people are led astray

01:55:30.480 so can this happen again of course will it yeah most likely that's kind of what i'm i'm a little

01:55:36.840 suspicious of there but and i think that in those times been the most important thing more important

01:55:41.660 than probably it's ever been

01:55:43.060 will be the component of faith.

01:55:46.100 Like you need to be steadfast in your walk with God

01:55:50.060 almost to the extent that it changes nothing.

01:55:54.080 What's the goal?

01:55:55.240 Make disciples of men,

01:55:56.740 strengthen your relationship with God.

01:55:58.500 That's it.

01:55:59.200 Continue your walk, pick up your cross, follow Christ.

01:56:01.480 It changes nothing

01:56:02.780 because the world is going to deploy

01:56:05.040 unbelievable deceptions against you

01:56:07.660 and you're going to try to understand them,

01:56:10.680 which at some point, as a conspiracy theorist, it almost pains me a little bit to say,

01:56:15.460 will be folly. We're going to be handed shit that we're not going to be able to unpack,

01:56:20.300 and we're not going to be able to understand. God forbid the internet drops out during this time.

01:56:26.020 There's all your intellect is gone, all your information, all your ability to keep up to

01:56:31.180 speed and report on this thing or any of that crap is meaningless. At some point,

01:56:36.640 it's going to be like faith has always been a huge component. But I think I'm beginning

01:56:40.560 to understand to what degree and it's when you are overloaded with so much information when we're

01:56:49.900 kind of in that season right now unverifiable information information that seeks to vindicate

01:56:56.800 but still deceive you that at some point all you're going to have is faith and that doesn't

01:57:02.740 mean like don't try to understand don't look at these things just don't lean on your own intellect

01:57:09.100 Like, don't lean on your own understanding because it's going to fail you.

01:57:12.920 God's not going to fail you.

01:57:14.680 But if you lean on your own understanding, that's going to fail you.

01:57:18.440 And I think that faith is about to be – it's just funny.

01:57:21.900 In a time where, like, we're in information saturation, there's all kinds of unbelievable crap that you can learn.

01:57:28.120 And it's like, how ironic is it that in that time, the thing that's going to serve you is not that information.

01:57:33.480 It's faith.

01:57:34.600 Yeah, and I'll tell you one thing.

01:57:35.700 i was just doing i do a bible study once a week and we were what were we on but it was one of

01:57:40.740 paul's chapters and he talks about living in a crooked generation and what our role in all of

01:57:47.960 this is and it's to be a light to the people right uh abiding in the spirit walking with messiah

01:57:54.440 right and i think ultimately that's what we're called to do during all of this and i see all

01:57:58.200 this happening uh one thing about what raven was saying and then let's go top to finish off your

01:58:03.000 point on what you think is coming you know you talked about how there might be some arrest right

01:58:08.880 to give the appearance as if the old guard is taken away and the new guard is taken in

01:58:13.980 and immediately when you saw that i immediately thought of that one guy and i think this one guy

01:58:19.500 is gnostic bs but white lotus of light or something like that and i think that guy is he came on i was

01:58:24.640 talking about this idea of the malachians fighting the luciferians as if they're two different

01:58:31.240 factions and he says the malachians are supposed to lose so the luciferians can take over it sounds

01:58:38.140 like that's what uh you're kind of saying there maybe well not that you agree with it but what

01:58:43.760 they're going to you know dangle over our face with yeah i think the luciferians will be um i

01:58:50.380 mean that's pretty gnostic adjacent because if you follow gnosticism it's like this idea that

01:58:56.700 like lucifer didn't do the wrong thing by bringing this you know knowledge he brought knowledge to

01:59:02.520 mankind and all this is kind of the prometheus bringing fire to to man type of deal um and then

01:59:07.840 that also goes hand in hand with like god is the demiurge and so everything gets like real slippery

01:59:13.740 luciferian and luciferianism they they feel vindicated vindicated by their own pursuit of

01:59:20.760 knowledge and and their own understanding right this is the mystery schools these are people that

01:59:26.620 sleuth through the ancient texts and think that, you know, I keep quoting it and I'm going to quote

01:59:31.920 it again. But when God goes to Job, where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?

01:59:37.360 These are a bunch of self-righteous assholes who have only been alive for whatever, you know,

01:59:43.940 we're all alive for 100 years, if we're lucky, give or take. And in that time frame, you're

01:59:49.160 going to understand the deepest mysteries of the earth and you're going to have figured it out.

01:59:54.700 and what you figured out is that lucifer the light bearer the bringer of of intellect and

02:00:01.140 and you know um and the awakener of of mankind is the hero of the story and god is the demiurge

02:00:09.320 who seeks to keep like hey dude you're a dummy where were you when god laid the foundations of

02:00:15.060 the earth so i think that you know i could see that happening we get something luciferianism

02:00:20.100 is like you might jerk back at that maybe replace that with like gnosticism new age right somebody

02:00:26.940 who understands the mysteries of it all in fact if aliens plugged into that that would make a ton

02:00:32.760 of sense right because aliens are the ones that are going to teach us the real truth about the

02:00:37.120 universe that we inhabit and you know the meaning of life we were given this uh hypothetical by

02:00:42.900 by tim yes and i told them to shove it up your asshole tim because it's not

02:00:49.600 it's not the case it's a you're giving me yeah yeah no i mean it is the case it is true yeah

02:00:55.000 there are two opposing factions but they're the same side that's what i'm saying it's the illusion

02:00:59.580 and i was never meaning like raven you were believing what this one guy said what i found

02:01:02.840 interesting is you said they're going to pull the wig you know the pull the what's that saying

02:01:08.280 the wig over her eyes something over her eyes whatever it is uh they're going to act like

02:01:13.200 they're going to arrest all the some of the bad guys and then give you this new system and it

02:01:17.540 lined up with what these gnostics are talking about yeah this is the point of the whole q anon

02:01:23.660 thing that's the point of it the point of it is i mean you know and q is an interesting thing

02:01:27.960 because people say q is for quetzalcoatl and you know it's it's basically the same thing it's it's

02:01:33.260 one of these plumed feathered serpent uh entities you know seraphim you name it whatever the nakash

02:01:40.280 if that's what it is the serpent from the garden yeah um and that it's the exact same you know

02:01:46.020 deception uh wants to place himself as the hero yada yada look i mean to me i can see that that's

02:01:53.660 what's playing out we in my opinion like i said ben we're gonna get a like the mullochians if

02:01:59.460 if people feel comfortable calling them that which i don't think is really i don't know if

02:02:03.000 there's much of a downside to calling them that um they're sacrificing kids right really hard to

02:02:10.160 frame them as anything other than the bad guys in fact one of the things that tim says that i i do

02:02:15.720 suspect could be true is that um we will get a false savior situation with the aliens

02:02:23.420 um the malachians are much like the grays right the grays are kidnapping you against your will

02:02:32.220 they're um sexually assaulting you impregnating women you know mutilating cattle you name it but

02:02:40.720 the pleiadians the pleiadians well they look like tall nords they're fair-skinned and beautiful

02:02:48.300 and you know oftentimes will console you while you're stressed out and you're freaking out about

02:02:54.740 your abduction experience and he says that he thinks that that is um them playing the good guy

02:03:00.620 but he still maintains that there are some good guys among them i don't know how he determines

02:03:05.100 that but it's the same exact thing it's a mistranslation of a bible verse in second

02:03:10.840 kings is how he determines it right so which by the way even when he says it they were still

02:03:16.120 killed for their neutrality which means that they never were neutral they stood against

02:03:20.980 god yeah they were never a plan i mean whatever he thinks they're a planet i don't know it doesn't

02:03:25.340 matter so um he thinks planets are real all that's happening here malachians and luciferians

02:03:32.300 it's better to rebrand them as gnostics they they have the gnosis um and greys versus pleiadians

02:03:40.640 which the greys i think are just a biomechanical husk that is meant to carry out autonomous

02:03:46.300 you know um jobs it's it's a way for a spiritual entity i suspect i have no way of knowing

02:03:52.680 i suspect it's a way for a spiritual entity to to interface with the physical realm by inhabiting

02:03:58.860 this biomechanical husk and being able to carry out limited uh tasks um and it would be fascinating

02:04:05.520 if the pleiadians destroyed them and saved us from them considering that's basically like you

02:04:11.260 destroying your car or something and be like the car was bad and it's like it's your car you ran

02:04:17.300 people over with your car no no it was the car the car was a whole species you know and we terminated

02:04:22.620 it but but just to finish that analogy it is very much the same thing it's a puppet on one hand and

02:04:28.040 a puppet on the other hand and it's controlled by satan and we're getting a little puppet show

02:04:31.580 that's the theater that's the script yeah i just i i don't think that i think maybe all this stuff

02:04:37.920 plays out and maybe there is like a war between factions maybe people get arrested maybe there's

02:04:42.060 even beheadings or whatever you want to call it but i think in the end it's uh it's like a

02:04:49.540 discouragement campaign and uh what was it demoralization yeah there's a there's a demoral

02:04:55.560 certain demoralization technique but the one consistent thing that has to survive through

02:05:00.780 this is going to be uh i think pedophilia will try it will they'll make a huge attempt to

02:05:06.500 normalize it we had a great example given to us um the aids epidemic look eating them is

02:05:13.440 no we can have sex with them what are they yeah i mean look that's what they're gonna do in

02:05:18.260 leviticus they're like leviticus 21 right 18 21 uh don't let your seed pass through the fire

02:05:23.580 fire of moloch yeah they were doing this openly and it was accepted and i think that that's kind

02:05:27.900 of the goal for this to be able to do this openly and for it to be accepted and i i know it sounds

02:05:33.800 crazy and i don't know i don't think that's crazy at all no i don't know how they're gonna get there

02:05:37.320 is what i mean but right now target number one but back in the aids epidemic that the target was

02:05:44.100 you know it was like this was coming from gay people right and people were afraid to even be

02:05:47.820 next to gay people look at us today everybody's gay it's actually celebrated and i how do you do

02:05:55.120 that over a number i mean that's only been really 30 years 40 years they they've made it completely

02:06:01.580 acceptable yeah yeah 30 years because in the 90s we were still like making fun of them but it was

02:06:06.280 also like but we accept them yeah yeah so but that's the main goal that's actually i mean that's

02:06:10.900 kind of what made me really get on this path i think that's spiritual coordination right i think

02:06:17.480 that everything initiates in the spiritual realm and you look how the world operates there's no way

02:06:22.220 they can all be on the same page like that correct unless there was a unifying spiritual force in my

02:06:27.960 opinion yeah it was kind of drawing them all together that doesn't go away yeah yeah the but

02:06:34.620 the the child sacrifice realistically is the thing that's the thing that like is the linchpin of a lot

02:06:41.500 of this yeah well it's very powerful something to do with the kids yeah they need that that doesn't

02:06:46.380 go away as a matter of fact i think that they're going to use the epstein files to normalize it

02:06:50.360 bring it to the forefront people will be outraged and then they'll fizzle out and at first i don't

02:06:54.920 know how they're going to do it but some way they will make this legal and like i said this years

02:06:59.280 ago maybe 15 years ago on facebook i was like man they're going to normalize uh you know what'll

02:07:03.460 happen and you know how they'll normalize it i got banned i got banned and i was like oh damn

02:07:08.580 they're really going to try that within the files they're going to tell you like and this is what

02:07:14.240 happens when you do this to children and people are going to be like wait wait wait wait what

02:07:18.860 entities and and power and portals and and psychic abilities and huh we better have sex with these

02:07:27.020 kids that could it could be a that could very well be a a key to that yeah you think people are

02:07:32.420 going to become privy to that information and then be like nah people are people you know what

02:07:38.440 the first question is going to ask the first question is gonna be like is that the only way

02:07:42.920 you just told people how to make meth and you're gonna be like but don't do it don't do it yeah

02:07:46.340 yeah like yeah of course you're gonna do it crazy meth it puts you in contact with entities well

02:07:50.920 it's the nine they're from the egyptian yeah yeah yeah i guess so but yeah i mean that's that's

02:07:55.640 gonna be it you think people are just gonna go like the first question is gonna be is that the

02:07:59.600 only way to achieve these things and then they're gonna go yeah it's the only way shouldn't do it

02:08:03.400 and then people are gonna go right and then straight into some tunnels in the bottom of

02:08:07.420 New York and you know I just I fear and I suspect that that's kind of what it's always led to like

02:08:14.020 the open acceptance of it'll be pedophilia but ultimately yeah don't feed your your don't pass

02:08:21.100 your seed through the fires of Moloch yeah this is age-old stuff that people have been doing and

02:08:25.960 I think that they'd like to do it in out in the open I was same way they do everything else now

02:08:29.700 out in the open so well I was watching uh um the Fantastic Four movie last night with uh with my

02:08:34.960 son and it's like you know they have um a giant entity that they have to sacrifice a child to

02:08:40.920 among a bunch of other like interesting themes and at one point when they go like no we're not

02:08:47.400 going to sacrifice our child to this thing like we got to fight it instead when the world finds out

02:08:52.180 that they were all they have to do to save the world is sacrifice the kid the whole world's like

02:08:58.060 yo sacrifice your kid what are you doing so i mean there's definitely going to be people that

02:09:02.600 are like i don't know i feel like that's still on the table in a way we already have soft sacrifice

02:09:07.180 right we have uh yeah i don't want to say the words on here but you know what we've done

02:09:11.940 chemically to kids you have what we're doing mentally to them we just have like outright

02:09:16.460 abuse whether it be physical or mental they're very low on the totem pole for most as a matter

02:09:21.260 of fact most people don't even really want to have kids yeah these days so it's like spiritual

02:09:26.120 sacrifices yeah is it that far of a step off for them to be like hey i can get this if i just do

02:09:32.400 this i don't know that's just you know it's weird i have a buddy who's kind of normie and he's got

02:09:38.140 a family with three kids and i went and visited him last night uh you know he always picks my

02:09:43.320 brain and asks me questions because what we're talking about is absolutely crazy and i don't

02:09:47.360 even know to begin with with someone of a normie person to give them the perspective and they're

02:09:52.040 like with what you see coming you know any advice and really all i could think of spend time with

02:09:58.560 your family have a relationship with god and enjoy each moment you can because you know if you really

02:10:05.480 know if you really want to know what's going on here uh i don't know because it's it's going to

02:10:11.040 be nuts and you know satan and and the crazy part of it all is is especially when you start reading

02:10:17.180 the book of job god knows what's going on he's allowing all this happen and if we do have a

02:10:24.240 loving God, which I do believe it has to be for a reason, right? All this suffering that we're

02:10:29.560 seeing at the hands of, you know, Satan and these demonic gods and these Babylonian bloodlines that

02:10:35.160 go back to these gods, it all has to be for a plan, which is to draw us closer to God. I really

02:10:42.220 believe that. Also, we're supposed to witness this, right? We have to witness this and they're

02:10:46.160 going to be judged. Yeah. And it's like, what comes next, I think we're going to look at physical

02:10:51.400 life here um as not only a blip on the radar but also we're gonna have context that we don't have

02:10:58.640 now we're gonna go oh my god that makes sense yeah that makes a lot of sense that's why we

02:11:02.720 went through that and then these things i mean god is a a just and fair god right um these things

02:11:09.060 have to happen in order for these entities to be judged and we're here to witness it so uh and

02:11:15.480 witness against them um so yeah i i don't you know that's the that's the name of the game no

02:11:21.500 matter what though this was like my initial description of the idea of god always being

02:11:26.060 just like even to these entities he knows the plan like it's written in the stars but

02:11:31.180 they've got to play it out and then we still have to like have a record of their crimes we have to

02:11:37.800 see this stuff he's like i know what's on their heart i know what they're going to do because

02:11:40.680 time's kind of already happened in it and it's still happening and it's also happened before

02:11:44.880 but they've they're going to play it out and he's got to like he's sitting there patiently

02:11:49.980 with his creation and us which he's created and he's watching them do this but he's like

02:11:56.220 his main characteristic is being just and righteous and he can't be righteous unless

02:12:02.200 there's justice and they can't be justice unless there's been the crime and he's like so then you

02:12:07.420 have to do this and then they have to they have to tell me i am the judge now at this point they

02:12:12.660 have to tell me what you have done even though it's plotted it's been played out it's just got

02:12:17.000 to happen and it's like man you could look at that and go why would you put us here god why would you

02:12:22.460 allow these things to happen and it's like they have to they have to otherwise like your free will

02:12:27.340 means nothing otherwise every other tenant of his characteristic and who he is means nothing and you

02:12:32.840 don't know who he is that's who he is well for better or for worse for pain and suffering that's

02:12:38.140 who he is and you know what i'll take that all day i'll take it all day i don't want i don't i don't

02:12:42.240 want to be on train tracks you know we can we can kind of do whatever we want i could do whatever i

02:12:47.340 choose to right now i could go and choke david why would i do that but i can right we could it's just

02:12:53.460 a beautiful wow we've been given that opportunity to do the like to have these loves us enough to

02:12:58.580 to give us freedom freedom to destroy yourself which is actually a really hard thing to do it's

02:13:03.820 like even even when you were a kid and you had like a a pet i remember my sister um she killed

02:13:09.340 her ferret that bitch um it was paralyzed from the waist down and and that and that ferret was

02:13:15.500 adorable um it was that way when she got it but she loved it so much that she she was a kid a

02:13:21.980 little kid and and my dad's an idiot let her do this but she slept on it yeah and it's like when

02:13:27.880 you're a kid when you're naive all you want to do is you have a thing that you love you want to hold

02:13:32.980 on to it you don't want to give it freedom you don't want to give it freedom but you also want

02:13:37.700 it to love you which is interesting because now you've made it your prisoner you've taken away

02:13:42.780 its free will and you know i guess in my sister's case it ends up that's not love right right so god

02:13:48.980 loves us um but also gives us free will i mean man that's a hard thing to do and and as a parent

02:13:55.880 you know that's a hard thing to do right i mean you know i have a i have a son and it's hard to

02:14:01.780 let him go and make his own mistakes um it's something that i'm constantly wrestling with

02:14:07.820 because i want him to just listen to me and i've been coming to this place recently where i'm like

02:14:13.880 there's there's no way to there's no way to tell a thing to a kid uh some things there are and you

02:14:20.500 make an effort to do that but um ultimately they have to go out and they have to fall flat on their

02:14:25.220 face and then um you know that's it that's the only way to learn the human experience right

02:14:30.040 god warns us we have to test him and come to the understanding that he was right about everything

02:14:35.400 but i think that's a great way uh to end it that we have this god that is just this god that is

02:14:41.580 loving and uh guess what we are on his team we are part of his family and our goal is to bring

02:14:47.620 other people into the family and strengthen our relationship but uh we're approaching two hours

02:14:52.160 and 15 minutes uh maybe one last time tell the guys where they can find you and give bohemian

02:14:57.600 grove a shout out yeah dude so find us um anywhere you listen to podcast nephilim death squad

02:15:04.020 uh on all platforms and then um uh we do a a live show bohemian grove um it's uh conspiracy based

02:15:14.040 it's christian based it's comedy based um the last one was absolutely insane i don't think this one

02:15:20.680 this one's going to be like that um but we you know we we calling uh all kinds of people from

02:15:26.740 the podcast community. And last time we had Sam Tripoli and Owen Benjamin headlining. I don't

02:15:32.240 know who exactly we're going to what we're going to do this time. But I think we're aiming at

02:15:35.440 June. First weekend in June. And it's going to be in Florida. They're always in Florida,

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02:15:51.580 nephilim death squad if any are left after that uh they'll be on top lobster.com yeah and uh if

02:15:58.280 you do follow us i follow us on audio means a lot more we we like uh we release uh uncensored and

02:16:05.920 earlier there and that's kind of like really the hardcore community and also reach out to us man

02:16:11.500 email us we have our email and our description of all of our shows talk to us i think that's what

02:16:17.140 i don't know if that's what makes the show special or good or whatever but it's what i enjoy the most

02:16:22.880 it's like we're talking about these extremely deep subjects and it's like i'm not talking at you

02:16:27.640 this is not it's it's one of the flaws i think the general church has where they're talking at

02:16:34.500 the person like i want to talk back to you guys if you guys get to get a chance to come out to

02:16:38.700 bohemian grove you don't even have to come out to get some coffee yeah standard coffee shop in

02:16:43.100 lady lake florida yeah most of the time we're like setting up cameras and we got somebody out

02:16:46.940 here and they're like hey i like the show and they're just talking to us about whatever it's

02:16:50.340 like one time somebody showed up and we were like sit down we're doing a show be on the show

02:16:53.680 and then we did a whole show with him he's a cool guy that's cool that's cool

02:16:59.140 all right well hey thank you for coming on the show and thank you for having me on your show

02:17:06.900 thank you for having us brother hey listen and i can attest if you're listening to me you know

02:17:11.780 you follow my podcast i am definitely a fan of your podcast so make sure you i mean you probably

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02:17:20.620 you know top loss for raven thanks again and god bless god bless you brother all right cool

02:17:27.240 i'm gonna end it right now sweet

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