Nephilim Death Squad - THROWBACK ｜ 019： The Lore Lodge w⧸ Aiden Mattis

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00:04:56.840 i use it all the time i have yeah he actually sent me this one so i have used this one

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00:05:48.840 me i had it next to me where'd it go maybe i do i do never mind i keep mine you don't you don't 0.97

00:05:52.500 keep it over your nuts i keep mine over my nuts whenever i'm um i'm podcasting just in case the

00:05:57.700 government wants to try to see maybe i'll wrap one around my head like a like a koopy or something

00:06:02.180 like that this is a this is a new tinfoil hat people let's just go ahead you know i feel like

00:06:06.980 it's like one of these kind of yo this is the new tinfoil hat it's what is this called like a chic

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00:06:59.260 but you know it's 2024 and they're going to use it um so i'll put this over them so it doesn't

00:07:04.520 fry their testicles it blocks frequencies from wi-fi from bluetooth as uh here you go right here

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00:08:22.580 Yeah, let's start the show.

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00:08:29.940 Press play, David.

00:08:31.780 We had music.

00:08:32.300 I don't know.

00:08:32.760 What are you doing?

00:08:33.580 We have music?

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00:08:35.520 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:08:43.480 news readers politicians teachers lecturers we are in a country and in a world that is being run

00:08:53.640 by unbelievably sick people the chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really 0.98

00:09:01.380 going on is absolutely oh yeah dude there's some nephilim shit it's like we all know what's going 1.00

00:09:08.640 down but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave 0.99

00:09:12.040 welcome back everyone to another episode of nephilim death squad i am your host

00:09:38.620 david lee corvo aka the raven this is top lobster i hope everybody had a lovely new year's uh i know

00:09:46.300 i did it was a very cool time there we go what's up marshall um joining us today is aiden of the

00:09:53.700 lore lodge aiden before we get into things can you uh tell everybody a little bit about what it

00:09:58.900 is that you do and where they can find your work sure thing uh my name is aiden mattis i am a uh

00:10:05.620 historian by trade that is my my education my training and i make videos about unsolved uh

00:10:12.300 basically unsolved mysteries for the most part whether that is people who disappeared under

00:10:17.880 strange circumstances i you know conspiracy theories about the the true the true history

00:10:23.780 of the world being written down in a book from 1965 and censored by the cia uh it wasn't it was

00:10:29.640 not it was just the ramblings of a madman but um yeah so that's kind of what i do uh you can

00:10:35.580 find me at the lore lodge here on youtube or my personal channel is just aiden mattis and that's

00:10:39.940 where i do some more streaming uh you know reaction and gaming stuff but yeah so that's that's why i

00:10:44.540 am that's what i do i also have a background in religious studies i am super excited aiden uh to

00:10:50.040 have you on number one and number two to have everything that i thought before or thought that

00:10:54.940 i knew completely shit on so this is like just like five minutes before the show started he's 0.69

00:11:00.720 just schooling us on the nephilim like never heard that never heard of that never heard of that 0.97

00:11:05.540 and i'm like damn i don't really know what i'm talking i feel like maybe we should just end the

00:11:09.060 stream now because like we have no idea what we're talking about so you want to get the last

00:11:14.460 words that he he muttered before we started was he was like uh number one that's not how you 0.98

00:11:18.060 pronounce nephaloma number two that's a stupid fucking name you should rename the show and then 0.94

00:11:22.140 we rolled right into it i said neither of those things actually history will prove aiden if we go 0.99

00:11:27.940 i did not say you should cancel or rename the show that was you could you actually could you

00:11:36.000 give the fans uh the listeners a little like listen to a little bit of what you were just

00:11:41.280 talking about in the pre-chat because you kind of ran through the idea of the name the nephilim

00:11:45.820 and if that is even accurate historically yeah so the uh the whole concept of the nephilim

00:11:53.460 is one of those things that really for the past 2,000 years or so

00:11:57.820 has been relegated to the upper echelons.

00:12:02.060 That's kind of the ivory tower discussion

00:12:03.600 is you've got people who are biblical scholars sitting down

00:12:07.400 and they're like, okay, what does this passage actually mean?

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00:12:57.740 you might as well publish it. You get to a little bit later, you know, the 1900s,

00:13:03.400 even the 1800s, where you have the printing press is a pretty easily accessible thing for people.

00:13:08.340 The Bible is now a very accessible thing for people. They can go and pick one up at a local

00:13:12.340 hardware store. They don't need to go and find their family's heirloom Bible from the Middle

00:13:17.300 Ages, crack it open, and figure out how to read Old English in the first place. Not Old English,

00:13:23.660 but, you know, early modern. So you get a series of people who start to look more deeply into

00:13:28.920 everything, and they look at, all right, well, here, this text says this, and this one says

00:13:34.840 something different. How do we reconcile these? How do we talk about them? And what you get is

00:13:38.900 suddenly this topic that has been pretty exclusively reserved to the elite within that

00:13:45.540 group uh you know the priests the deacons the cardinals uh with within the protestant churches

00:13:50.300 you know some of the higher level pastors elders and things like that suddenly that is being

00:13:55.620 discussed by the common man and then with the evolution of the internet it goes into overdrive

00:14:01.020 and you've got all right well one person heard this about nephilim and then went and looked at

00:14:05.820 looked it up and they got something from another random site and so on and so forth until you have

00:14:10.140 millions of people with different views on what these things are the version that has sort of

00:14:16.120 made its way into the the public consciousness is that Nephilim are essentially demigods that

00:14:23.040 they are the offspring of angels and individual humans and usually this splits into two main

00:14:28.980 camps one of them is the ancient astronauts Zechariah Sitchin like uh these were the the

00:14:34.900 people from the planet Nibiru who came down and they created human beings in a slave race and 0.95

00:14:39.920 And these are the Nephilim, you know, because the Hebrew word nephal means to come down.

00:14:45.840 So that's why these are the heavenly beings.

00:14:48.580 These are the same thing as the Watchers, essentially.

00:14:50.700 They're aliens who came here to enslave humanity.

00:14:53.420 The other view is a bit more the biblical side, which is that these were angels who were assigned to humanity to watch over us, to keep us on the right path.

00:15:05.340 And that this group called the Watchers, this is all from the Book of Enoch.

00:15:09.180 uh this is not in the bible this is in the apocrypha so in enoch the watchers they decide

00:15:14.840 i'm not really not really vibing with this whole just being a babysitter thing i think we could be

00:15:21.240 gods and if we if we agree that any punishment visited upon any of us must be visited upon all

00:15:29.620 of us god can't really punish us all right you know they they can't arrest us all if we try to

00:15:35.040 storm area 51 they do all get arrested and in this case being arrested means that you are

00:15:42.380 chained underneath a mountain being basically turned into a rotisserie chicken for all of

00:15:48.560 eternity uh that's specifically for the rebellious angels that's not what's supposed to happen to us

00:15:52.960 but that's kind of the biblical view is these guys came down they had children with human women

00:15:58.220 and those children were the nephilim these half angel beings who have extraordinary powers who

00:16:04.300 are exceptionally large. In Enoch, they're like 10,000 feet tall, and they have relations with

00:16:10.380 animals and children, and they eat human beings. They're true, genuine monsters. 0.71

00:16:17.440 The Bible itself is a little bit more tame. I'll read you the literal translation. 0.75

00:16:22.540 This is Genesis chapter 6. And it came about that men began to multiply on the face of the earth,

00:16:28.140 and daughters were born to them. The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were good,

00:16:32.760 and they took wives for themselves of all they chose and jehovah said my spirit shall not always

00:16:37.640 strive with man in their airing he is flesh and in his days shall be 120 years the giants were

00:16:43.940 in the earth in those days and even afterwards when the sons of god came into the daughters of

00:16:48.460 men and they bore to them they were heroes which existed from ancient time the men of name so the

00:16:54.080 nephilim are clearly not the guys that came down from the sky they're the ones that were born here

00:17:00.440 as a result of people coming down from the sky is this why you know like human beings we seem

00:17:05.320 to have this integral one of the things that's part of our stories over and over again is like

00:17:10.020 this idea of banging the babysitter like it's hardwired into our psyche is this idea of having 0.93

00:17:18.160 sex with the babysitter and now it's starting to it's like a throwaway kind of like uh cultural

00:17:23.920 trope that all of a sudden i just found a home for and it now seems much more important than just

00:17:29.560 some like throwaway mechanism in a hollywood movie but it's actually because they were the

00:17:33.580 worst babysitters and they came eventually they were like i don't want to watch these kids anymore 0.97

00:17:37.700 yeah it's i'm gonna fuck these kids yeah basically what happened i i should i should clarify before 0.97

00:17:44.920 anybody uh gets gets too excited or uh gets angry at me the the enoch the the sitian explanation is 0.99

00:17:53.020 is pretty roundly like no these are not aliens who came down to this planet there is no mention of

00:17:57.460 nibiru in the ancient sumerian texts situation did not know what he was talking about that's

00:18:01.440 kind of the general consensus um with the the nephilim the biblical issue it's a little bit

00:18:06.460 more complicated the there's my camp which believes that this is in fact describing

00:18:11.320 angels coming down and uh procreating with human beings the other camp is that and i have full

00:18:18.260 respect for this camp as well i just disagree with it the other camp is that the sons of god

00:18:22.300 is not referring to the angels,

00:18:24.040 but to the line of Seth,

00:18:26.080 whereas the daughters of men

00:18:27.300 are the ungodly line of Cain.

00:18:29.600 I don't love that one.

00:18:31.060 My cousin's husband came from that exact angle at me.

00:18:35.480 And I was like,

00:18:35.880 that's the first that I've really ever heard of that.

00:18:37.860 It's either people that are,

00:18:38.940 like I have some aunts that are pastors in churches.

00:18:41.440 They don't even look into Genesis six.

00:18:43.720 They're like, we're more about salvation.

00:18:45.260 And that's like, you know, pretty widely spread.

00:18:47.620 It's either in our camp about salvation

00:18:51.580 and now um like for the first time i've heard that and i was i was kind of perplexed by it

00:18:56.220 and he said that it was from the from the line of seth i'm not exactly sure

00:18:59.960 what break that down what do they think yeah it's so this is i'm not as well versed in this

00:19:08.340 explanation um so forgive me if i if i'm imperfect in it but their belief is that this is a a much

00:19:16.220 more symbolic kind of language and that when we're talking about the godly line of seth well

00:19:22.120 they're godly because seth was the replacement son for abel and you know seth's people were

00:19:28.520 faithful and they did the right thing and they tried to live by the whatever commandments they

00:19:33.660 had because there's basically nothing there we have no idea what the rules were for these people

00:19:39.440 um there's just kind of you can infer well based on what the 10 commandments are they probably had

00:19:45.180 something similar and we know that murder is a bad that that's not a good one murder is bad

00:19:50.220 um that's basically the first commandment in the bible is don't kill uh or don't murder i should

00:19:56.680 say their argument is that cain because he murdered uh murdered abel and was put away

00:20:02.840 from god and forced to wander the earth for eternity and so on and so forth that his children

00:20:08.120 were ungodly and that seth's children his offspring were godly and that what caused the 0.84

00:20:15.280 flood what caused the wickedness of man was that these two groups of people began to interbreed

00:20:21.340 which previously had not been done and once they did so that inherent wickedness in cain's line

00:20:27.920 polluted the godly purity of seth's line and that created these men of renown who these mighty men

00:20:36.720 who were capable of great acts either of good or of evil and that god basically went this this is

00:20:46.200 kind of an irretrievable situation we got to start over from scratch i'm gonna find the one guy

00:20:51.660 the one righteous guy and that's that's noah uh noah of course there's this the common the

00:20:59.380 common description that you'll get all through school uh sunday school and you know religious

00:21:03.160 education you'll typically hear if you are not in a scholarly setting if you're not in a discussion

00:21:10.220 setting you're just in a classroom lecture kind of thing what you'll typically hear is that noah

00:21:16.200 was the only sinless man on earth well original sin he can't be sinless so what does righteous

00:21:23.900 mean does that mean he's the least sinful man on earth gets kind of into the weeds here this is all

00:21:29.280 getting very vague and ambiguous how could that possibly be the explanation the alternative is

00:21:34.960 that what what actually says let me uh let me see if i can grab this really quick um all right

00:21:42.460 are we going into this idea that he was um perfect within his generations or yes precisely

00:21:49.420 these are the generations of noah noah was a just man and perfect in his generations

00:21:55.400 that that terminology is too specific to be accidental yeah it's talking about bloodline

00:22:03.140 it's talking about bloodline in my opinion so what that means is that noah's family

00:22:08.680 noah specifically at least had no either again this is either the ungodly line of cane

00:22:16.360 or the angels or the watchers he has none of that dna he's untouched which means that whatever

00:22:24.760 inherent sinfulness is in the DNA of Cain's line whatever inherent evil is there Noah doesn't have

00:22:33.440 it and therefore his children don't have it so you get you can start over fresh there's of course

00:22:40.480 plenty of arguments over how literal is this story supposed to be was it really just Noah and his

00:22:45.160 family on that arc was it Noah as the patriarch of a tribe or a clan that was on that arc is it

00:22:51.520 really two of every animal are we talking about just the local animals um was this perhaps

00:22:56.900 something more complicated than we're being told there's also the question of when did all of this

00:23:00.520 happen it also took him 120 years 120 years to build this thing which is so that's that's the

00:23:07.120 other thing is is that is that what that is saying or is it like this is the issue with the bible is

00:23:12.960 there's there's so much time dilation there's very few instances where you're given a specific set of

00:23:18.700 months you're at best given years and even then it's hard to tell if this is some form of

00:23:24.320 numerology some form of symbolism did adam actually live nearly a thousand years or is this uh you

00:23:31.700 know adam's tribe lasted that long like what does this mean so with uh with regard to

00:23:38.300 to the uh the timing it's unclear what is meant by that it could be that god was saying you have

00:23:45.500 120 years to prepare could also be that god is saying uh mankind will no longer live for hundreds

00:23:53.040 and hundreds of years you're you're capped at 120 um you know there's there's a few possibilities

00:23:59.120 all of them have pretty pretty good theological backing for the most part um those are the two

00:24:05.300 big ones though is either god was saying man's lifetime is now shortened considerably or this

00:24:11.420 is how long you have. Noah is supposedly, he preached about this and told people it was coming

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00:25:03.720 going to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it one of the things that i always

00:25:09.820 find compelling is for the argument um of the nephilim being the mixing of the human uh women

00:25:17.060 with the fallen angels is that you do see that echoed in greek mythology right where it's like

00:25:22.660 that's how you get all your demigods and i'm of the contention that i guess contention is a strong

00:25:29.120 word i i like to entertain the idea that uh these entities could have existed but they're just

00:25:36.280 renamed because you'll find that right it's it's one entity who's in charge of you know agriculture

00:25:42.920 in the rains or something like that or another one who oversees you know war and things of that

00:25:47.580 nature and these entities you'll find a representative of those attributes across

00:25:53.380 many different cultures um and i like to toy with the idea it's certainly not my idea that these are

00:25:59.580 just the same entities going by a different name and so when you see uh you know for example the

00:26:06.260 idea of like the seraphim right this like shape-shifting race of angels uh and then you look

00:26:13.180 at zeus who what shape shifts into a swan i believe it is and then digs down some lady

00:26:20.320 and she gives birth to uh i what is it is that how you got who's the guy perseus i'm not sure

00:26:26.860 if that's how you got perseus i am so bad on my greek mythology these days it's been a long time

00:26:31.400 since i read percy jackson yeah i might be i might be uh mincing you know the the formula

00:26:38.320 for one demigod over another but i know that that is uh part of the lore right is that

00:26:43.360 zeus he transforms apparently into a very irresistible swan pay some lady a visit she's

00:26:49.620 like i like the look of this swan uh and then gets dicked down by the swan and then you know

00:26:54.000 that's where you get your sort of once again you're you're men of renown you're heroes of old 0.99

00:26:57.200 right and so this is a horny motherfucker yeah it is a lot of animal stuff too i just don't know 0.99

00:27:02.840 like that's like i don't know what ladies were into back in the day but he's like i know how to 0.99

00:27:06.140 get her while we're here while we're here um let's just bring the conversation right over to some

00:27:11.180 really weird stuff um cryptids yes are these are these products of the fallen because like we know

00:27:18.400 that they'd like to do some animal stuff. We just spoke to LA Marzulli and I'm completely

00:27:22.360 convinced that they're doing some kind of hybrid breeding stuff and they've been doing it for a

00:27:26.440 long time. What are you thinking about this? Have you, have you covered this? He's flipping

00:27:30.880 through papers right now for the listeners. So yes, he's covered it. I love that this dude has

00:27:34.580 like, just, he's got everything you bring up. He's like, actually I've got reference material.

00:27:38.640 I've never read them. You can't see much of it. Cause it's, uh, I'm going to wait for my

00:27:45.020 girlfriend to walk past but um there's there's a whole a whole bookshelf right here oh my god

00:27:49.560 there you go and he's just pulling all his reference material right it's a whole station

00:27:54.100 these are all my my my hard covers uh the uh yeah let me see though because it's i want to have one

00:28:00.720 thing up in front of me for uh for what you just said but yes oh uh sorry the husky the husky is

00:28:08.020 speaking oh good um yeah so i can't even hear the uh yeah for the uh i'm blanking what were

00:28:16.820 we talking about uh we were saying the the yes yeah the cryptid the breeding experiment thing

00:28:20.940 i think i think it's a super interesting subject because the the term cryptid refers to something

00:28:30.040 that is i said to exist believed to exist but science has come up with no proof that it exists

00:28:37.300 yet so this kind of applies to things like bigfoot the chupacabra um there's uh i guess uh

00:28:44.600 loch ness monster would count for this as well sort of those things that are very well-known

00:28:49.820 folktales that seem like they could be real but they're not there's just something in there that

00:28:56.600 it hasn't quite been proven um this is why things like the flesh gate and the rake are not cryptids

00:29:02.660 they are internet horror stories the flesh gate does not appear in any you know there's no you're

00:29:08.920 not going to go back to 1500 you know search through the woods and find a little native

00:29:13.400 american community that tells you about the flesh gate it's just not going to happen you might find

00:29:18.020 talking about the wendigo though which is why you have characteristics of the flesh gate that are so

00:29:21.740 similar to the wendigo skinwalkers uh the goat man all of these different things that kind of get

00:29:26.940 mixed into one we have a video on that actually that's basically titled exactly that like what

00:29:31.180 you get when you mix the wendigo skim walkers and uh and the goat man um so in my opinion i don't

00:29:37.460 know that i would necessarily say that i think that there's a lot of uh you know mixed breeding

00:29:41.600 projects going on i will say i am not opposed to the idea that uh that there is some sort of force 0.99

00:29:48.900 out there creating weird stuff out in the forests or in the depths of the earth and all of that

00:29:54.460 but what i think is uh is most interesting to look at in terms of what can kind of cross that

00:30:00.620 bridge between people who are very interested in the supernatural and people who are more interested

00:30:05.860 in anthropology and the sciences behind it when you look at something like uh bigfoot

00:30:12.540 what's what's bigfoot's native american name yeah we sasquatch sasquatch yaoi is actually an

00:30:22.120 australian one um not too far off but yes yaoi is the australian one so bigfoot's called sasquatch

00:30:28.080 Well, that comes to English from an even more Native American term, Saskets. Saskets were believed to be these large humanoids. We're talking six and a half, seven feet tall, who lived out in the forests of British Columbia.

00:30:43.600 And they were said by the Chehalish people, hey, these guys live out in the caves. Don't go near their caves. They're very dangerous. They're very fast. They're very strong. 0.85

00:30:53.860 and they seemed unable to agree.

00:30:56.700 They were speaking to a man named J.W. Burns,

00:30:58.440 a Canadian journalist and teacher

00:30:59.840 and they seemed unable to agree.

00:31:02.920 Are these natives like us?

00:31:05.580 Are these, the word they used was strange Indians.

00:31:08.000 Are they just, are they us but with a different culture

00:31:10.120 or are these a different kind of person?

00:31:13.620 Yes, yes, you're good.

00:31:15.320 All right, okay, sounds good.

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00:33:54.660 all right love you too bye um okay yeah the uh so these saskets that are said to live out in the

00:34:03.300 forests sounds a lot like kind of that modern conception of bigfoot but maybe a little bit

00:34:08.220 less hairy ape man and a little bit more divergent human humanoid hominid i so i wonder you know we

00:34:15.560 keep figuring out oh the natives were actually here a lot longer than we thought they were first 0.67

00:34:18.960 it was 13,500 years now it's about 25,000 years uh who knows it could go back as 50,000 or even

00:34:25.020 120,000 years we we could be looking at human beings being on this continent for a very very

00:34:30.140 very long time which also means we know that there were Denisovans those were hominids uh around the

00:34:36.180 who lived around the same time as Neanderthals we know that they were over in Siberia

00:34:39.980 who's to say they also weren't over in North America who's to say something similar to that

00:34:47.200 that we just haven't discovered yet wasn't here?

00:34:49.440 And could it be that whatever that was,

00:34:52.440 it survived long enough

00:34:54.280 to work itself into the oral traditions

00:34:57.480 of modern Native Americans?

00:35:00.740 So I look at that angle and I'm like, 1.00

00:35:02.360 all right, maybe that's what we're dealing with here.

00:35:04.180 I like to try and stay more on the scientific side

00:35:07.940 of the supernatural so that we,

00:35:10.700 I wanna always create that entry point.

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00:35:58.940 to talk to yourself for an hour, you might as well publish it. Where science and superstition can kind

00:36:05.600 of meet in the middle and say, all right, let's pursue this. And for me, that's kind of how I

00:36:10.460 look at cryptids is all right well what what inspired this story because it could be in some

00:36:16.600 cases that it was inspired by something very real we might if somebody told you at a bar that you

00:36:23.040 know they had run into a venom spitting giant lizard and they gave you some some silly name

00:36:29.380 for it like the snally gaster well you might say that's ridiculous but those exist they're they're

00:36:35.980 komodo dragons and monitor lizards like they're real so a lot of these things that we look at

00:36:41.480 and we say oh that's that's supernatural that's a ghost story whatever a lot of that stuff could

00:36:45.960 very well be at the very least based on something real that grew and evolved over time into something

00:36:51.600 more legendary or it could just be a very accurate description of something that we don't know is

00:36:56.740 there yet i think one of the reasons that we brought up the the cryptids is because we're

00:37:03.140 going into this realm of discussion with you about uh missing 411 and i i don't know if you're

00:37:09.540 i'm sure you are aware that the theory surrounding it what's the gentleman's name david um david

00:37:14.980 politis david politis it seems as though and i don't want to put words in his mouth um i might

00:37:20.580 be mincing ideas here from one source to another but it seems as though his theories on the whole

00:37:26.240 thing have evolved in a direction that includes uh essentially possibly cryptids and portals

00:37:33.200 dimensional slips things of that nature and you know i i speculate as to whether or not

00:37:40.200 the reason for that jump is because and i love the idea it's a sexy idea it's a lot of fun

00:37:45.680 but i do speculate as to whether or not it's because of a lack of concrete evidence or or

00:37:52.660 any other answer uh that you would start to explore these these realms essentially what are

00:37:59.740 what are your thoughts on the entire for folks that don't know missing 411 i i highly recommend

00:38:05.500 checking out the docu-series i guess it's a docu-series yeah um and it's about these very

00:38:11.280 um unique missing persons cases in national forests and national parks where uh the distance

00:38:19.700 traveled by the missing person seems to be uh it doesn't match up with the time frame

00:38:27.160 uh within which they're missing in other words to get to point a to point b would have taken

00:38:32.640 an astronomical amount of time and they don't believe that a person number one could do it

00:38:37.480 in the time frame and number two could traverse the kind of treacherous landscape that is between

00:38:42.860 the points um especially given the age of some of the people who are missing there's all kinds of

00:38:48.640 very bizarre circumstances where they will sweep an entire, let's just say, mountainside and find

00:38:56.080 nothing. And then suddenly in a very obvious place, the belongings of the person will suddenly appear

00:39:01.880 well after the search is over and be discovered by someone who's just kind of out there,

00:39:06.200 you know, exploring or fishing or hunting. And also there is no discernible signs of

00:39:16.200 uh struggle or injury so sometimes they'll find their belongings but there's no blood

00:39:21.160 there's nothing like i believe in one case they even found uh the clothing of one of the missing

00:39:28.240 people kind of folded up and and placed nicely on a log and so it is strange what david politis

00:39:36.920 has done is he's mapped these missing persons cases all out and he's drawn correlation uh where

00:39:44.520 I suppose someone could make the argument there is none, but in his mind, these are

00:39:49.160 all connected, and the thread that connects them is the mysterious circumstances of the

00:39:54.080 disappearances.

00:39:54.980 So I'd be really interested in hearing your take.

00:39:57.800 Do you go into this paranormal, supernatural thing?

00:40:01.560 Is that even an appropriate terminology for this?

00:40:04.740 Because it might just be something that we don't understand yet, and so the supernatural

00:40:07.980 and paranormal are often things that are not defined by science but may yet be at some

00:40:12.860 point.

00:40:13.100 uh i'd be interested in hearing your take on that sure yeah so i think i think that the one of the

00:40:19.640 best ways to refer to basically anything in in paranormal or supernatural uh in that world

00:40:25.880 is to look at it as kind of being stuff science hasn't figured out yet because chances are

00:40:31.880 whatever that story is there is some sort of realistic explanation for what happened and

00:40:37.360 when i say realistic i don't mean that there can't be some sort of thing we don't understand

00:40:41.520 i mean that eventually we will be able to understand it all all science all sufficiently

00:40:47.340 advanced science looks like magic to people who don't understand it you know i i'm gonna level i

00:40:53.040 we live in the year 2023 or 2024 now i guess i still don't really understand how electricity

00:40:58.760 works and i probably never will like i i understand how currents you know like yeah this is direct

00:41:03.980 current this is alternating current and you need one to make sure it goes along for a longer period

00:41:08.360 of time because it'll dissipate and it goes into my wall socket and then it powers my device. I get

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00:42:00.920 you might as well publish it the physics of generating electricity and how it functions

00:42:07.740 totally lost on me um so you know to me that's that might as well be magic i'm aware that there

00:42:14.100 is a way to do it but there's also a spell for something so it's really funny there's a recipe

00:42:18.840 one of our good friends uh matt rife who owns uh real rife technology he's dealing in this kind of

00:42:26.060 stuff like tesla coil energy and stuff like that he's he was telling me about this argument that

00:42:30.660 he was having with dr parkinson parkinstein another dude who's dabbling he's like dabbling

00:42:36.300 in this like this kind of electricity stuff that i don't understand they're saying that they're

00:42:40.860 sending electricity through the ground 900 miles to another state and it's picking up the signal

00:42:46.700 because and i'm just like he's telling me i'm like not a fucking clue i barely know that i can plug 0.74

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00:42:57.380 that level where i'm just like sitting i'm sitting and watching no idea it could not could not

00:43:02.680 replicate it couldn't tell you how to do it if an alien race appeared on earth today and asked us

00:43:06.980 how electricity works i could not tell them um i was driving the other day and i was listening to

00:43:12.760 uh stevie nicks or what's the band she used to have uh fleetwood mac and there's this song on

00:43:18.160 the on the edge of 17 i think it is it's an awesome song i love this song it's like a guilty pleasure

00:43:22.620 her mind but i'm driving and i'm thinking like dude if you went back to like the 1700s and all 0.97

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00:43:47.500 eyes it would be astroworld so it's very interesting that you bring up wizards because

00:43:52.260 that term obviously you know we have harry potter now we all think about wizards as guys with wands

00:43:58.080 who cast spells and all of that the term wizard back in the middle ages when it developed meant

00:44:03.340 wise man and these wizards were alchemists and astrologers and uh and uh potion makers

00:44:12.720 and all of that sounds very magical and bippity boppity and you know you got macbeth and the

00:44:19.020 witches stirring their pot but if you look at what these people were actually doing well what

00:44:23.960 is alchemy we all think about it as turning lead into gold right but what what is alchemy actually

00:44:30.220 what is the process of taking one material and turning it into another one it's it's material

00:44:37.320 science it's chemistry it's chemistry it's chemistry the term alchemy comes from alchemy

00:44:43.000 the term chemistry comes from chemmy like they're they're the same they're the same root word in

00:44:49.060 arabic because they're the same thing just alchemy was a little bit more more hoodoo you know like

00:44:54.280 all right well if we mix these things maybe we'll turn this into this it was very similar with

00:44:58.800 potion making i mean think about what potion makers did you come to your your potion maker

00:45:03.500 your your court potion maker and you say hey um i have some aches and i've had a a lot of you know

00:45:11.160 my nose has been running recently and they say oh whip something up for that and they take a whole

00:45:14.920 bunch of herbs uh maybe maybe some powders of certain heavy metals and maybe like i don't know

00:45:20.920 bone dust or something they grind it up they mix it with some water they create a tincture they

00:45:25.200 create a beverage anything along those lines and what do you end up with well you end up with a

00:45:30.160 pharmaceutical drug. That's what potion makers were. They were apothecaries is probably the

00:45:36.240 right term for it, but they were pharmacists. They were people who put together mixtures

00:45:40.880 to solve ailments. And then you have astrologers. Well, what are astrologers? Obviously today,

00:45:46.680 astrology is something that 20-year-old white girls do to make sure that they're compatible 1.00

00:45:50.800 with their boyfriend. A thousand years ago, it was astronomy. It was looking at events that 1.00

00:45:58.120 have happened well what position were the stars in when it happened are the stars in that position

00:46:02.260 now could it be that we're witnessing the same event repeating itself that was astrology so

00:46:08.760 you're seeing and of course there were people doing all the weird stuff too but the point is

00:46:12.420 all of this old magic as we describe it was in fact science it was just a very rudimentary form

00:46:20.300 of it that today to us would look like kids playing in you know playing with baking materials

00:46:24.780 but to them back then three field crop rotation was a new thing being like oh my god if we leave

00:46:31.560 one field barren for a year it'll come back twice as fertile let's do it that was new around a

00:46:38.300 thousand ad like what's interesting is that was new um and now we're obviously dealing with like

00:46:45.960 much more advanced techniques for agriculture at the same time when you're looking at the pyramids

00:46:50.440 and whatever that was, whatever was going on there. Uh, we're not even, we're not even able

00:46:55.820 to replicate how they got those stones there with, with modern trucks and heavy machinery.

00:47:01.380 So yeah, it's like, for me, it's like a give and take, right? I'm like, like, yeah, in a lot of

00:47:06.440 ways we have made advancements, but in a lot of ways, maybe we've forgotten a lot of stuff.

00:47:10.720 So yeah, the, the pyramids are one of those things that I took all, I'll be honest. I took

00:47:14.960 one egyptology course in college and i dropped it because i got lost the names are so foreign

00:47:20.780 the dynasties overlap like it's really complicated keeping it all together i'm sure if i had taken a

00:47:27.360 few months and really sat down and focused but it was like my sixth course that semester i just

00:47:31.740 wasn't it's not about it uh it really is one of those things that people have come up with

00:47:38.980 methods that could have worked it's just is that method remotely efficient for doing this

00:47:44.940 and the answer is usually no like the method of okay well we're gonna take a copper saw and we're

00:47:52.820 gonna go throw sand into the sawing point and then we're gonna sluice it with water as we saw

00:47:58.800 and that's gonna get us through the block well yeah that'll get you through the block but it's

00:48:02.840 gonna take a long time yeah right and also why they choose such a precision type of stone

00:48:09.000 yeah the precision that they did it with there's also that idea of like wetting the sand and

00:48:13.760 sliding these things over almost like it's skiing over the sand uh you know there's a lot of things

00:48:18.660 that they come up with but it's like yeah does this work you know at scale uh when you're when

00:48:24.920 you're talking about however many blocks over however many megalithic structures yeah and then

00:48:29.440 the other thing too is it's it's weird because you know the courses the way i look at it is like

00:48:35.820 when you have guys like randall carlson and and graham hancock take what you want from their

00:48:40.980 theories but it's very clear that the the verdict is still out yeah and to to saddle someone down

00:48:50.640 with debt and say take this class and we're going to tell you what it is i don't know necessarily

00:48:54.540 what that class is like right but i imagine there's a lot of um there's certainly of you

00:49:01.800 you become vested in the information that you've been given because you have a monetary investment

00:49:07.700 in it and then that you can see that's what kind of creates like the gatekeeper system that exists

00:49:12.240 in archaeology right the same thing that uh randall carlson is allegedly uh you know butting

00:49:18.800 up against constantly is these are these gatekeepers that tell anybody who has an alternative

00:49:26.140 theory that you know it's completely out the window and it's just we're probably going to

00:49:30.140 get to the point where 50 years from now much of what uh carlson you know suggested what with the

00:49:36.980 redoing of the Sphinx and the water erosion suggesting that it's like, I don't even know

00:49:42.700 how many thousands of years. It was like 12,000 years. Something like that. And I wouldn't be

00:49:48.540 surprised if we're going to be sitting in a climate when it comes to archaeology and history. We're

00:49:52.280 like, oh yeah, that's the accepted science now. And so it's always that thing of like,

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00:50:53.100 they didn't tote us. I think they gave us the same stuff. It's high-quality stuff. I have these

00:50:59.080 other black buckets from some other place that I bought, but the ingredients are definitely better

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00:53:33.160 get yourself five percent off at checkout yeah it's there's definitely a significant degree of

00:53:40.220 that within the fields and this this applies to mine as well with history uh part of the problem

00:53:45.120 is that in these jobs when you go and you get your history degree this episode is brought to

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00:54:35.880 to talk to yourself for an hour, you might as well publish it. What your future looks like is

00:54:42.280 essentially one of three things you are going to be a professor you are going to be an archivist

00:54:48.180 or you are going to be a uh a museum curator those are like your three main options when you

00:54:55.560 get a history degree archaeologists have the benefit of they can also go and do field work

00:54:59.680 there's really no historians can't really do field work what is field work for us

00:55:03.920 going to the library so that's what professors do archaeologists have the benefit of being able

00:55:10.360 to go into the field but part of the issue there is when you are getting into it well first uh let's

00:55:17.020 take historians because that's what i'm most familiar with uh if i were to have gone the the

00:55:21.360 typical route then i got out of school and i took a year off to work private sector try and make a

00:55:26.880 little bit of money and then go back uh you go back or you go straight in and you get your master's

00:55:32.380 degree and while you're getting your master's degree you get uh you work as a ta so you are 0.54

00:55:37.640 probably either going to be teaching a very low level course or possibly you're going to be

00:55:43.920 teaching you're going to be assisting with a grad course or a undergrad course something like that

00:55:49.120 that is below your year very rarely you'll see a master's student get to teach their own course

00:55:54.900 but that's usually like a review kind of class you get your master's degree now you can be an

00:56:00.680 adjunct adjuncts make like 20 grand a year jesus christ so yeah you get paid by the class

00:56:07.580 you don't get paid for being a professor you get paid by the class you teach so you don't make a

00:56:13.800 ton of money you're usually teaching at two or three schools all in the same area running back

00:56:18.160 and forth you know day to day more than likely still paying off debt oh yeah you do that for

00:56:23.620 five to ten years while you get your phd and if you're lucky you get your phd in just five years

00:56:28.760 uh in the u.s it's a lot quicker over in britain they have no like real reason to keep you there

00:56:34.800 because they don't hold their academics

00:56:36.660 to quite as high of a standard.

00:56:38.260 And they also are, it's free.

00:56:40.620 So interesting.

00:56:42.580 Yeah, I remember I was talking to students

00:56:44.780 at the UK school I was going to get my master's degree at

00:56:47.720 and every single other foreign student,

00:56:52.400 everyone who was from another European country,

00:56:54.080 but particularly people who had gone to school

00:56:55.660 in both the US and the UK,

00:56:57.560 told me that by far,

00:56:59.460 I would probably be the best educated person

00:57:01.900 out of all of the students

00:57:03.640 in every single one of my classes because the American education system, once you get to college,

00:57:09.040 is considerably more rigorous. And only the people that come out at the top of their classes here in

00:57:14.320 the U.S. go to school over in the U.K. So you're getting like the best of the best American students

00:57:20.360 going over there to do their grad schools. And usually you're doing that because you want to be

00:57:24.740 around the history you're studying. But say you work, you spent six years getting your undergrad

00:57:32.940 and your master's you are now 24 25 years old you then start your phd program which takes you

00:57:38.780 another five years hopefully you are 30 years old you got a job at the university that had a

00:57:46.940 position open you are making 50 grand jeez man what incentive is there to break from the system

00:57:58.380 that is going to make sure you live there's extreme extent point from the other side no

00:58:03.260 exactly so when when you get there what you're facing down is if i go outside of the mainstream

00:58:10.620 if i break away from what is acceptable i will likely never work in academia again

00:58:16.700 i will probably never exactly you'll you will be so ridiculed so criticized that you will never

00:58:22.960 have the opportunity to come back which means that college that's employing you as a professor

00:58:27.500 is not going to pay off your student loans they're not going to give your kids free tuition

00:58:33.020 they are not going to provide you with tenure that keeps your job secured you know maybe it's

00:58:39.300 a lower salary probably 80 to 100 grand but it's going to keep you secure forever so even if it's

00:58:45.900 not by design it is still maybe let's call it accidentally the most effective indoctrination

00:58:53.640 machine yeah accidentally machine it's an it's an indoctrination machine because it it literally by

00:58:59.880 short of threat of violence tells you what you have to believe or it's it's or else you know

00:59:07.100 Aiden I was gonna ask why you started doing uh your show and you just explained yeah you gave

00:59:12.780 us the whole backstory of it and man I'm I'm glad that you're super successful with it man and

00:59:17.800 and it does open up another lane for historians and people with this kind of inclination

00:59:22.980 to like actually explore ideas and that's beautiful man even if you know you're gonna 0.99

00:59:28.540 shit all over what i think i just i'm not i'm joking with you man yeah what i say is retarded 0.95

00:59:36.140 the other half is is a lie so yeah yeah it's it's it's it's frustrating and it's a little 0.98

00:59:43.520 frightening looking at it i remember i tell this story a lot but i was sitting in a classroom

00:59:47.220 uh about a year ago i guess and uh a retired professor who had worked in both uh academia

00:59:54.860 and in the media as you know he was a radio host um he basically came in and he was sitting he was

01:00:00.920 talking to our class it's probably 15 of us uh maybe less uh grad students at westchester university

01:00:06.180 in pennsylvania and he comes in he's kind of going down the list and he's talking about his

01:00:11.100 experiences and then he starts asking us what we want to do why are we in grad school most of the

01:00:16.220 answers are one of two things either i'm planning to be a professor or i am in secondary education

01:00:22.460 or primary education and i am doing my continuing education which is where the school basically pays

01:00:27.740 them to go and get more education to work on master's courses um those are the two primary

01:00:36.440 reasons the secondary school teachers were told good you're you know you should probably look at

01:00:42.580 taking some courses that are, you know, be more picky, maybe take something that's really going

01:00:46.920 to give you a heavy bargaining chips. You know, if you're in social studies, go take a psych course

01:00:52.120 because you might be, that might help you take on another class, get paid more, that kind of thing.

01:00:57.720 To all the kids who wanted to be professors, he basically told them, you're in for a rough ride.

01:01:04.300 You're going to struggle. There's not a lot of positions open. The professors that are in their

01:01:10.420 sixties are not going anywhere for the next 20 years. The ones who are younger than that are

01:01:15.600 the majority and they're not going anywhere for 40 years. You are going to be going to whatever

01:01:20.580 school has an opening for you. You are going to be making very little money and you are going to

01:01:25.480 have to hope that things work out. He gets to me and I say, well, it's always been sort of my plan

01:01:32.800 to be a professor so that I would have time to write novels because that's what I wanted to do

01:01:35.780 is I wanted to be an author. And I said, and the other thing I would love to do is consult on media

01:01:41.460 productions, whether that's video games, movies, TV shows. I would love to be one of the guys that

01:01:45.840 gets called into the writing room and they say, Hey, we're doing a show about Vikings and we need

01:01:51.480 to know, you know, would it be appropriate to have them in England in the year 750 AD? And I can say,

01:01:57.940 no, that's 40 years too early. You're going to need to wait. I would set it, you know,

01:02:02.660 if you want like early viking period in england let's talk 795 to 815. netflix needs to hire you 0.97

01:02:09.140 because they i would love that i think all the old like the roman people were were black in one of

01:02:14.180 the like i was gonna say somebody yeah somebody i know they just did that with like some cleopatra

01:02:21.140 i believe it was like it wasn't even just that there was another one there was like a a viking

01:02:25.780 uh warlord that they cast as a black woman it was insane hawken the good who's like

01:02:31.800 unimportant one uh it's not that's not like a random viking chieftain that's the guy who

01:02:39.220 converted norway to christianity uh no big deal yeah and he also lived way before leaf ericsson

01:02:47.080 which pisses me off enough about that show uh like we're talking about i think 925 to 936 was

01:02:53.120 his reign leaf erickson was like the 980s onward uh this is why i can't watch i can't watch anything

01:02:59.900 on netflix everything on netflix like it's like every time a documentary comes out i'm like

01:03:04.020 it's not a real documentary it's like some form of just uh brainwashing or or purposeful

01:03:11.860 disinformation it's it's they have a whole thing sometimes it's not even purposeful just

01:03:16.760 random like random disinformation maybe just to irritate people higher it's a lot of it really

01:03:23.920 is just that people they don't know they go on wikipedia and they're like ah what does wikipedia

01:03:29.000 say well as long as i'm close to that it's like wikipedia's angle as well as long as i'm close

01:03:33.580 so you're saying well as long as i'm close to the guys who went as long as we're close

01:03:37.800 i think you're giving them more credit than they deserve i don't think they look anything up they

01:03:43.020 could just they're just saying it and then what they can do is they can plug in different ethnicities

01:03:47.420 and then they they hide behind this sort of like um racial justice barrier and then it's like well

01:03:52.520 you can't create it doesn't matter what we say it doesn't matter how historically inaccurate it is

01:03:56.140 we have just realized it gives us total creativity we're doing it wrong we need to become social

01:04:01.460 justice warriors on this show so whenever someone's like hey listen that's that didn't happen

01:04:05.400 it'd be like actually i'm spanish so you can't say that all the nephilim were black women

01:04:10.380 so let's all right let's let's start um actually i'm really doing yeah yeah yeah let's let's get

01:04:18.360 back to uh because we don't have very much longer and i wanted to get your thoughts on the whole

01:04:22.260 uh missing 4-1-1 what do you suspect is happening here so that's that's been an interesting one

01:04:27.880 that has probably been the the position where my opinion has changed the most over the last

01:04:32.820 couple of years when i went into it uh i was first exposed to it via i want to say mr ballin

01:04:38.080 was probably the guy who he told a bunch of missing from one story. He's did a great job

01:04:42.500 with it. He's great, great podcaster, very entertaining, very good storytelling voice

01:04:49.360 and all of that. Highly recommend it. But he was telling the stories basically as they were written

01:04:53.680 from from Mr. Ballin and not from Mr. Ballin, from David Politis. And there's a website called

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01:05:48.280 to talk to yourself for an hour, you might as well publish it. The way that they were all appearing,

01:05:53.640 it sounded like they had to all have some sort of supernatural aspect to them. And so we started

01:05:59.560 looking into it you know why why is this kid who was at this the summer camp why did he disappear

01:06:04.680 and end up 3 000 feet higher on a mountain two miles away and why was his skull missing

01:06:10.340 seems very odd you dig down into it well bobby beesup was at camp saint malo which is a catholic

01:06:18.220 boys camp this was in the 1950s uh as it turns out i think four different counselors who were

01:06:24.440 there at the same time as him eventually ended up being caught uh abusing children um colorado was

01:06:31.540 like the center of that whole catholic priest abuse scandal so all right cool so let's dig in

01:06:37.500 a little further what else do we know well at the time it happened it was said that he the last he

01:06:42.260 was seen he was down fishing in a creek one of the counselors said hey come up and then he was

01:06:47.060 never seen again in 2018 a team went and they interviewed some of the other kids who were at

01:06:54.120 the camp and a bunch of them clearly could remember probably the same night if not earlier

01:07:00.320 that week bobby being over at the snack bar speaking to one of the uh one of the counselors

01:07:08.520 who was a seminarian because everybody who was a camp counselor there was either a priest or a

01:07:12.460 seminarian he was speaking to one of the seminarians and then they saw him run away

01:07:16.620 very upset like crying like ran out of the room like out the door even you look at the case of

01:07:24.000 Bobby B's up. Oh, by the way, I, after that story aired,

01:07:27.680 a guy came forward and revealed that he had in his possession,

01:07:30.140 a child's skull that was given to his father by the guy who ran the camp.

01:07:36.720 What? So you look at that story and you go, Hmm,

01:07:39.640 I don't think this was Bigfoot. I think this was, this kid was molested,

01:07:45.420 ran away, got scared and died of exposure up in the mountains.

01:07:49.540 Cause he was in the Rockies at 11,000 feet wearing a t-shirt.

01:07:52.780 like yeah you look at that story it's like i feel like this one probably has a more reasonable

01:07:57.380 explanation but then there's other ones there's uh garrett bardsley for example he was with his

01:08:03.700 father on a boy scout camping trip this was in uh the uh wasatchewinta national forest this is

01:08:10.380 about an hour i'd say east of salt lake city and they're up in the mountains and he and his dad

01:08:16.660 are fishing at around 8 a.m it's the the first uh the first morning they'd woken up at the camp

01:08:21.760 this was not this was not a sanctioned boy scouts trip this was the boy scout troop

01:08:25.840 doing it as a private thing together as you know fathers and sons trip um garrett and his dad are

01:08:32.100 fishing garrett slips into the water he gets his feet wet in one of these lakes decides he wants

01:08:37.020 to go back and change out his socks and shoes because it's just uncomfortable to have wet feet

01:08:40.520 he's 150 yards from the campsite the way back to the campsite is basically 75 75 yards in one

01:08:48.340 direction, turn a corner, 75 yards in the other direction. At no point on the trail are you out

01:08:54.120 of sight of either the dad or the camp. One of them can see you at all times. Garrett actually

01:09:00.420 goes past the turnoff and his dad calls back to him and says, Garrett, you missed it. It's back

01:09:05.700 there. Garrett comes back and his dad watches him turn onto the proper trail. So now there's only

01:09:10.780 75 yards between where Garrett was last seen and his destination, the campsite. After 20 or so

01:09:17.920 minutes, he's not back from what should have been a 300-yard round trip. So his dad goes and asks

01:09:23.680 at the camp, and he says, hey, has anybody seen Garrett? They haven't. They start looking all

01:09:28.200 over the place. This is Salt Lake City. We're talking Mormon community here. Mormons are

01:09:33.320 pretty intense about community and about family. You have dozens of people who don't even know

01:09:40.100 Garrett, who don't know the Bardsleys, up in those mountains searching for him for a week.

01:09:45.140 nobody finds anything at all the most commonly cited explanation for this uh because it can't

01:09:54.100 be that garrett was kidnapped there was just no way for that to happen he would have he would

01:09:59.600 have screamed there would have been a sign of a struggle somebody would have seen it happen

01:10:02.280 there was just no way for garrett to be kidnapped so the only other explanations are that garrett

01:10:07.580 ran away which he had no motive to do um and nobody found him so how far could a little kid

01:10:13.220 possibly get at that time uh he was 12 the other the other explanation given if we're sticking with

01:10:19.900 non-paranormal explanations is that he was uh grabbed by a mountain lion now mountain lions

01:10:24.620 can approach pretty silently they can hook their jaws around the back of your head and cut cut your

01:10:29.900 brain stem they can prevent you from screaming and they can basically disappear with a fully

01:10:34.800 you know a 12 year old boy is not too big for a mountain lion to drag off unlikely that there

01:10:40.860 would be no blood but it's possible the problem is garrett was carrying a fishing rod

01:10:47.680 they never found the fishing rod yeah which means if he was attacked by a mountain lion he would

01:10:54.540 have dropped the fishing rod there is no viable explanation excepting that garrett's father like

01:11:01.500 drowned him and hid the body which based on the way his father behaved afterwards seems

01:11:07.220 extraordinarily unlikely uh there is no explanation for this that fits within what my understanding of

01:11:15.760 the normal world is something must have taken him what what can take a human child without them

01:11:24.540 screaming and without any blood and to me the only thing that really makes sense is another person

01:11:31.060 but again a normal person could not have pulled that off in the way that they did

01:11:37.240 what does that leave it leaves something that is humanoid that lives out in the woods that is

01:11:45.540 accustomed to that territory that can move near silently we're talking about a perfect predator

01:11:49.340 perfect hunter and something that probably based on how fast garrett went missing

01:11:54.380 lives underground garrett was near a boulder field he was in the mountains there's caves

01:12:01.680 everywhere so it makes me wonder about that possibility now am i going to say that's the

01:12:06.940 wendigo two years ago probably would have i'm a little bit less certain about what precisely

01:12:12.040 is doing it but what seems clear to me is that in a minority of missing 401 cases there is no

01:12:18.560 possible explanation accepting that he was taken by feral human beings bigfoot something along those

01:12:27.320 lines now what you believe bigfoot to be is is up to you from for me it's you know basically a

01:12:32.360 large humanoid that lives out in the forests um doesn't necessarily have to even appear non-human

01:12:38.840 that's in my opinion why we never found a bigfoot skeleton is because it would be indistinguishable

01:12:45.320 from a large human and the reason that you wouldn't find bigfoot hair is because it would

01:12:49.800 be indistinguishable from hominin hair genetically um so that's where i net out on it and i think

01:12:55.960 that's kind of the broad broadly that's my take on missing 411 is in a lot of the cases you find

01:13:01.940 something like bobby beesup where to david politis's credit when he came out with the bobby beesup story

01:13:07.620 uh his version of it that was before any of this investigation was done and they determined that

01:13:12.040 this was almost certainly a case of child abuse. David Politis didn't have that information. You

01:13:18.180 could argue that he should have gone and gotten it, but he's one man who does not have the resources

01:13:21.920 of an entire news station. So can't hold him to, you know, you can't hold that one against him in

01:13:28.000 my opinion. But that is kind of what I see with a lot of this is in a lot of cases, you know,

01:13:33.240 there's a good chance that something normal happens, something tragic, but something normal.

01:13:38.420 every once in a while something comes along that just doesn't click just doesn't make sense that's

01:13:45.560 actually what the video we're putting out on friday is about is the the cases that don't make sense um

01:13:50.880 but yeah i mean there's it's it's weird and whether or not the body is found also has a lot

01:13:56.180 to do with it because in some cases the body isn't found like garrett bardsley stacy aris

01:14:00.060 uh tom messick but in other cases like bart schleier the body is found and the body is found

01:14:05.780 in a position it really shouldn't be like he was a his job was uh hunting grizzly bears and tagging

01:14:12.920 siberian tigers this is the kind of guy who wasn't going to get crept up on he's also an excellent

01:14:17.920 physical condition excellent health early 50s um you know from what i could tell didn't have a

01:14:23.700 history of heart attacks aneurysm stroke anything like that and he just disappears appears he died

01:14:31.940 the very first day he was on a moose hunting trip and you know moose are very dangerous to

01:14:35.700 the average person to a guy like bar schleier a moose is a deer like you know it's it's just not

01:14:42.200 this is a guy who bow hunted grizzly bears like kodiak grizzly bears bow hunted

01:14:48.660 he's not going to get crept up on by a moose um the other issue is he was he was torn apart

01:14:55.840 like they couldn't find all of his body and the uh the royal canadian mountain police said that

01:15:01.660 he was killed and eaten by a bear the problem was that when bears don't finish their meal they leave

01:15:06.800 it in a cache they dig out a hole they bury it and they cover it up with dirt and they come back

01:15:11.460 for it later they found none of that there were no human remains in any of the bear or wolf scat

01:15:15.900 in the area uh and there was a case just a year prior to that where a photographer was eaten by

01:15:24.120 a grizzly bear in alaska caught the whole thing on camera like he managed to capture his own death

01:15:29.620 on camera uh yeah yeah it's it's dark but the thing is when they killed the bear that did it

01:15:36.680 his clothes were in the bear's stomach they found no bear scat with clothes in it they found nothing

01:15:42.800 so whatever killed bart it left none of the telltale signs of it being a bear nor of it being

01:15:50.500 a wolf what was it um you know some people have argued that he he did have a heart attack that he

01:15:58.740 did have a stroke something like that that he died and he was scavenged but there was also no

01:16:03.280 evidence of that like there was there was no no signs of scavenger animals picking apart his corpse

01:16:09.160 so it's you just look at it you go okay i guess all right i like you i like to see uh when when

01:16:19.480 guys like you and uh one of our friends justin for cryptids of the corn he's a biologist

01:16:24.160 he uh he does the same thing because he's he's always studying different cryptids and he'll tell

01:16:28.940 you about cryptids like actual animals that people thought didn't exist but lo and behold they exist

01:16:34.840 um he was he was like that and then he had a bigfoot encounter and he's just like i don't

01:16:40.600 really know what to think anymore you just i'm just kind of like lost you know when he says when

01:16:45.400 he said bigfoot encounter what was he uh did he ever describe it to you he did you'd have to i

01:16:50.940 i mean well i don't want to mischaracter mischaracterize what he said maybe david

01:16:55.260 remembers better but he'll give you the first-hand account of what he said enough to change his mind

01:17:00.900 to say clearly there is a bigfoot and this is a dude who does this professionally he's a

01:17:05.320 professional biologist so i mean he's an incredibly measured guy if you want to yeah put us in

01:17:10.980 contacts i'd be happy to have him on our show too oh he's like uh strictly uh information driven

01:17:17.120 a real um uh analytical mind when it comes to these sorts of things what was his uh what was

01:17:22.480 his channel cryptids of the corn fantastic channel when you talk to him ask him about uh

01:17:29.300 organic ufos and the upper atmosphere you're gonna have a blast with that organic ufos oh so cool

01:17:36.380 it's so cool it's my favorite part of the entire episode is fungal based uh organic ufos i believe

01:17:42.440 he was uh describing and it's really compelling stuff he went off the movie um or how it related

01:17:48.620 to the movie up or not up i'm sorry that's the pixar film yeah that one uh what's the what's

01:17:54.660 the one nope that's what it was uh where they had sort of an organic ufo uh uh situation it

01:18:00.260 was a great movie but when i hear these things aiden i can't help but think about and i just

01:18:06.040 wonder i know we're getting close to the end here but if you had any thoughts on the situation

01:18:10.420 in peru uh with the face peelers i'm sure this has come across your radar and there's these reports

01:18:19.440 of uh what the government of peru called miners right so these are miners with technology uh the

01:18:28.720 descriptives that came out and this whole thing is very strange and shrouded in mystery and you

01:18:34.000 only get these anecdotal stories that bleed out onto the internet it's hard to make heads or tails

01:18:38.200 of what the situation is but one of the descriptives was sort of these armored beings that had um an

01:18:46.760 aesthetic that is closely resembling green goblin from spider-man is the way they described it

01:18:52.640 although i don't think there was any green involved uh and that they hovered three meters

01:18:57.300 off the floor as they moved through the forest and that they were basically surgically peeling

01:19:04.400 people's faces off and i don't know what to make that i don't jump towards aliens to me that sounds

01:19:10.600 like a technology-based thing that sounds like um i wouldn't be surprised if if the more information

01:19:17.120 we got the more it painted a picture of a military operation or something of that nature

01:19:21.800 um and even a video came out of them retrieving a young girl i think she was like 15 or something

01:19:28.600 who they they actually intervened and stopped these things allegedly from peeling her face off

01:19:35.960 around her jaw you could see that there was these incision marks and she was bleeding and she was

01:19:39.860 traumatized but otherwise the video was just a bunch of shouting peruvian people you can't really

01:19:44.700 you don't know what this is um i know that timothy alberino the uh the archaeologist is

01:19:50.360 very much uh of this school of thought that this has been a recurring issue for the natives of peru

01:19:58.500 something that they've been dealing with for months preceding the events that we saw

01:20:02.720 popularized on the internet and that made it to western uh media but when i see things like that

01:20:09.100 i can't help but kind of place that on the same table that i might place something like

01:20:16.600 some sort of sanctioned operation operation rather that's happening in national forests that's that's

01:20:23.480 a sort of turn that a lot of people take right like something is happening in these natural

01:20:27.360 national forests, these national parks that is being allowed to take place. It is of maybe a

01:20:35.660 governmental nature. And, you know, they're protected by the fact that this is a national

01:20:41.140 park and therefore people can't really come snooping and you can't launch an investigation

01:20:46.380 in these places that the woodlands are so dense. But what do you what what were your thoughts?

01:20:52.140 Did you guys tackle that at all?

01:20:53.680 This Peru event?

01:20:55.600 So I didn't.

01:20:57.700 I think when I heard about this, I was actually down at Tim Poole's compound.

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01:21:52.320 If I remember correctly.

01:21:54.340 And I think I talked to Brett and Phil about it.

01:21:57.540 I think I did at least.

01:21:59.600 What I remember thinking about reading through it was this seems like humans.

01:22:06.600 This does not sound like aliens and it does not sound like any sort of monster to me.

01:22:11.200 This sounds like human beings.

01:22:12.840 I never looked too deeply into it because of that.

01:22:16.580 I, but I also did not come across the video you're talking about.

01:22:21.640 So it might've been a function of when I looked, but yeah, that's, I mean, to me that, that

01:22:28.760 sounds a lot like illegal, uh, like organ harvesting.

01:22:33.160 Um, I mean, the idea of like peeling someone's face off doesn't have a ton of, a ton of

01:22:37.980 applications.

01:22:39.980 Right.

01:22:40.540 That's what, that was my thinking about it.

01:22:41.960 It's like, why even do this?

01:22:43.480 And there's these videos of them pulling a body out of the river and the body has, you know, no face.

01:22:48.080 It's it's white skull exposed, essentially.

01:22:50.540 And there are a lot of claims that this was essentially someone who died and face planted in the water and piranhas and things like that had access to the face, which to me checked out.

01:23:05.060 I go, oh, that's that's reasonable. Right.

01:23:06.560 if somebody dies and they fall and their their head is the only thing that lands in the river

01:23:10.140 and their body's just laying there before anybody finds them all sorts of aquatic life is going to

01:23:14.760 have at your face this is this could right and so but then all of a sudden all of the uh media

01:23:21.960 outlets that are tackling this they're all making this correlation as if this is real and it's like

01:23:25.680 okay well obviously if it bleeds it leads and so there's uh i'm sorry um gotta pull up this guy

01:23:32.780 this guy's he's my co-host on my other show is this true uh yeah wendigoon and i have a show

01:23:38.460 called the weird bible podcast okay cool just make his day and say shout out cole that's it

01:23:43.080 yeah shout out to cole all right i'll do it i'll do it in front of the weird bible podcast too i

01:23:48.320 don't care we're filming that in a couple weeks oh awesome that's hilarious he won't stop about

01:23:55.200 he will not he's freaking out right now to the point where i have not you know what i've watched

01:24:00.940 like some of his episode and he's like have you finished it and i said you know what i'm not going

01:24:04.740 to watch it anymore i do i do the show and i like out of out of pure spite but maybe i will now

01:24:09.920 because you seem really cool aiden just just to spite if you like if you like the nephilim stuff

01:24:14.840 uh i can actually your weird bible it has its own channel and everything oh yeah no i know we know

01:24:23.140 about wendigo i'm just messing around because he loves him so much every every time we bring up

01:24:26.660 some sort of conspiracy he's like oh my god like wendigo and i'm like you know what oh yeah he's

01:24:30.120 talked about all of it uh there was one i'm trying to remember which it was uh because there's a

01:24:37.360 couple of episodes from the show where we talked about uh nephilim and um angels and demons yeah

01:24:45.500 uh episodes here i'll i'll grab them and i can send them to you guys yeah what's the name of

01:24:52.620 your uh what's the name of the show again the one i do with wendigo is the weird bible podcast

01:24:57.160 the weird bible podcast all right you've got at least one new subscriber i'm checking that out

01:25:01.420 thank you yeah here's uh yeah here are the two that i believe deal with um nephilim sent them

01:25:10.080 to you in the chat but awesome yeah but as for the aliens thing um i think i think the biggest

01:25:16.640 problem we have right now with anything like that is the way that media works and how it's you know

01:25:22.580 something gets out there and there's immediately 150 tiktok conspiracy accounts saying this is

01:25:29.600 what's happening in peru and you know news reports and but and you know of course they're

01:25:34.300 you know relying on like the national inquirer as their source i so by the time it even gets to

01:25:42.420 somebody like me's desk i'm already like oh god you know and everybody else has already decided

01:25:50.180 what it is somebody faked a video and now the whole internet thinks it's this like you know i

01:25:55.820 mean uh i'm trying to remember oh a great example of this the mh370 stuff that just happened i saw

01:26:02.780 i saw you getting in the dirt a little bit what happened there what was that about ashton forbes

01:26:08.140 basically posts this video that uh seems to did the mind share it did no that got higher okay

01:26:15.640 there we go that's what that was um so i have a standing desk that i only ever use sitting but uh

01:26:20.880 yeah so what happened with that was that i was just scrolling through social media i was on twitter

01:26:27.620 and i come across a post by ashton forbes that's like here's a video of nh370 being sucked into a

01:26:33.660 wormhole and i went i know next to nothing about this i was 16 when it happened that's it that's

01:26:42.060 that's i remember a plane went missing and everybody was confused because they didn't

01:26:46.500 find any of the debris for a while uh so it was just disappeared for like two years um

01:26:52.840 and i i comment or i retweeted it and i said you know i know very little about this but it i'm

01:26:59.320 intrigued should i not be intrigued a lot of people are like you should be intrigued so i

01:27:03.500 reached out to ashton and i said hey do you want to come on the show and talk about this and he

01:27:06.480 said sure uh we planned for november 19th and i planned that the friday before that we would put

01:27:13.100 out a video on nh370 as a primer and also so i could go back and learn and study and see what

01:27:17.860 came up uh we did that and we talked primarily about the story and why we don't like the official

01:27:23.980 narrative and then part two was quick recap and the conspiracy theories and why we like or don't

01:27:33.260 like them the one that i liked the best was this was a lithium ion battery fire there were 221

01:27:39.160 kilograms of lithium ion batteries in the cargo hold of the plane they were not properly insulated

01:27:44.440 the way that lithium ion batteries work is that if a fire starts on one it will rapidly spread to

01:27:49.580 the next one creating a trained reaction uh and when you're talking about a sealed pack of lithium

01:27:55.320 ion batteries that are all simultaneously on fire uh really in any sealed compartment that's a

01:28:01.060 pressure that's a pressure bomb that is going to go off at some point i i think that's what

01:28:06.260 happened i think the fire probably spread to the electrical systems knocked him out and the plane

01:28:09.820 went down um yeah that's in my opinion the reason that it was kind of like so weirdly handled by

01:28:18.840 world governments and media is that that's pretty embarrassing for the faa yeah that's kind of like

01:28:24.260 especially when everything's trying to move into this like electric you know that's the direction

01:28:28.460 go green right this is like the same thing that i saw happen i believe it was in new jersey we had

01:28:32.760 a big storm a bunch of teslas ended up when they first got rolled out something went wrong and like

01:28:38.240 all of the teslas exploded in fantastic fashion like devastatingly and so yeah when you're trying

01:28:44.800 to tell everybody to go green and go electric maybe you do just maybe that's why the mh what

01:28:51.140 is it 370 that's why it gets buried is because of climate change how awful yeah in a way that's

01:28:58.340 kind of what i think happened is like for some reason or another this lithium-ion battery fire

01:29:03.000 screwed up somebody's plans um and at the very you know it could have been as simple as like oh god

01:29:10.260 if people find out about this they're never going to fly again um if people find out that we've

01:29:15.420 actually been allowing people to fly with bombs in the cargo compartment then who's going to ever

01:29:20.640 trust the faa the united nations civil aviation authority like all the different groups who

01:29:25.620 two years later in completely unconnected fashion banned the carrying of lithium ion batteries on

01:29:32.140 passenger planes uh over certain amounts you can have like your cell phone in the cabin with you

01:29:37.360 because it's very easy to put out one lithium ion battery very difficult to put out an entire cargo

01:29:43.060 hold full of them um so you can still have them in the cabin you just can't have them anywhere that

01:29:47.260 is not uh accessible by the crew such as the cargo hold which during flights is not accessible to the

01:29:56.360 crew so i think that that's most likely what happened to the plane what happened with ashton

01:30:02.200 was that at the end of our second video we kind of went over his the videos he had shared and we

01:30:09.660 were very careful to not say this is ashton's theory to not say these are ashton's videos

01:30:14.200 we were basically like ashton forbes put this information out and then we went and talked

01:30:18.800 about the information with leaving ashton entirely out of it and the reason we left

01:30:23.340 ashton entirely out of it is because we disagreed with him and we didn't want him to feel like we

01:30:26.280 were coming for him we were piling up we weren't we we had a professional disagreement with the

01:30:32.140 guy i and that was based upon the fact that my co-host my editor aiden was able we're both aiden

01:30:38.740 um he was able to using yeah replicate the effect at least one frame of it he was able to replicate

01:30:45.740 in a do you the guys you the guys who debunked those videos so we we were one of the groups

01:30:51.760 who did uh interesting we did not have the most complete one ours was basically hey here's the

01:30:59.460 the thermal video um and we took the animation of the the wormhole opening up that was allegedly

01:31:06.960 fake uh that everybody had come out and said this is an asset from a 90s video game the asset the

01:31:12.300 asset mostly matched at first when nothing had been color corrected at all uh but it definitely

01:31:18.280 wasn't exactly the same prior to any color correction uh which is what i said to ashton on

01:31:23.060 the live show and so when we go to do the video aiden wanted to take a crack at it see if he

01:31:27.880 could figure it out so he changed the tint and the saturation to remove all color and when he

01:31:35.380 removed the color and it just turned to black, a lot of the little imperfections that didn't match

01:31:40.880 disappeared completely. And the end result was that you had a single frame, at least,

01:31:46.860 that was a perfect one-for-one match to what was in the video. Now, the likelihood of that.

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01:32:43.120 Is astronomical.

01:32:45.400 There's almost no chance that you're going to have

01:32:48.380 something that happened in real life that was caught on video

01:32:53.140 perfectly match a designed asset from a lab for even one frame.

01:32:58.020 what game is it the asset you said it was from a game it was from an asset pack like a basically a

01:33:05.020 royalty you went you bought the asset pack and you had no royalties so these these are effects

01:33:09.660 that have been used in multiple movies and video games throughout the 90s and early 2000s i think

01:33:14.120 one of them one of the items in the pack was used in star wars like so he matched one frame perfectly

01:33:21.200 the reason he didn't go on and match all five frames perfectly is that he didn't feel like

01:33:27.980 it was necessary um yeah just because the likelihood uh and he didn't have time

01:33:33.320 so we were in the process of actually doing all five and matching all five frames perfectly

01:33:40.420 so we could show people a video where it was just layered right in and see if they could tell the

01:33:45.240 difference uh then then it basically came out that yes the videos were in fact fake it was

01:33:52.640 proven they were fake the assets were the original source assets were posted ashton admitted he was

01:33:58.140 wrong um but you know he's still in the process and i remember saying to him i remember saying

01:34:03.120 to him privately hey i like what you're doing i like the passion you have but you gotta make sure

01:34:08.380 you're you're careful that you only say stuff that you can you can really provide evidence for

01:34:14.000 or that you can at the very least say hey it was reasonable at the time for me to believe this

01:34:19.680 given the information that was available and i said you just need to be careful but if you

01:34:24.600 if you make sure you follow those two rules you will you will be fine no matter how this ends

01:34:30.420 you will have established yourself as somebody who can do investigative content and you can be

01:34:36.240 in a good place even if you're wrong right i mean it's still the opposite of that right and that's

01:34:42.600 where I mean what the work he did was incredibly extensive the hours that he put in but if he

01:34:47.280 would have gone the route that you described you still have this credibility as someone who's

01:34:51.860 willing to beat the analytics to death which is what we need in this realm of like the unknown

01:34:57.820 right with all these different accusations and all these different claims being thrown around

01:35:01.420 to have somebody who's willing to tear things apart on such a minute level is is exactly what

01:35:07.520 you want but instead it seems that i suppose when you put that many it's the same thing you go to a

01:35:13.620 university and you dump in all of this money you you become indebted you put in countless hours

01:35:20.020 and now it's very hard for you to say actually the information that i was fed was was wrong

01:35:27.620 yeah uh it's it's time invested that makes it almost part of your identity and for him

01:35:34.160 uh it it certainly was he became synonymous with that with that theory and i mean still to this day

01:35:40.060 i look at it and i go damn dude that was awesome like what you did was awesome the work that you

01:35:44.980 put in was awesome it's a shame that it you know it can't be recognized as that yeah it's you that's 0.93

01:35:52.080 the this the the difficult part of all of this the style of content creation is when you are

01:35:59.080 talking about the unknown there is always a chance that what you're talking about will become known

01:36:04.560 like and then you've got to be prepared to deal with that because you might be wrong and

01:36:09.180 for a very long time i was i was kind of in the same position with missing form one where i was

01:36:14.720 like no i i'm i firmly believe this and i will prove it and it just got to a point where there

01:36:21.520 was an overwhelming amount of evidence that the exact belief i had was wrong and i had to go all

01:36:31.360 right well based on what i have here i still don't feel like this is something mundane and normal i

01:36:39.060 feel like there's something going on here but i gotta revisit i gotta look back i gotta say all

01:36:43.820 right you know what did i miss where could i have been better uh you know where where did i make a

01:36:49.720 connection that wasn't there and is there another possibility and unfortunately that's i mean that's

01:36:56.500 that's hard on your ego to go yeah i was i was wrong and now i'm gonna make a video where i say

01:37:02.100 i was wrong and that video where i say i was wrong is going to be seen by more people than the video

01:37:07.180 where i was wrong like that's it it's good for you as a how old are you aiden 26 it's good for

01:37:14.360 you as a person as a man um to doesn't really matter what you're doing whether you're dabbling

01:37:19.420 in front of a huge, you know, 370,000 people audience, or if you're just being like raising

01:37:26.620 your kid, you know, even with your girlfriend, you're going to be wrong sometimes. And being

01:37:31.160 able to kind of eat shit a little bit is super useful. So, you know, it's unfortunately it's 0.99

01:37:36.760 sink or swim for the people who are in this kind of realm that are doing this. We're going to be

01:37:40.600 wrong all the time. Clearly I'm going to be wrong way more than you're wrong, Aiden, because we

01:37:44.260 don't know what we're talking about. I'm going to be wrong if it's anything regarding math. So

01:37:47.340 yeah or electricity we already like we have no idea but yeah no it's a great it's a great lesson

01:37:53.220 to take away and be like yeah you know what i can be wrong and we can still continue to search

01:37:58.260 and have an open mind especially with people like you in this field it's like you're the you're the

01:38:03.560 kind of person that they should be the general population should be looking for someone who's

01:38:08.120 like might be wrong but let's find out what the hell happened or like i'm open you know i'm open

01:38:14.240 to see what's going on. I love that. I personally love that in content creators or just people in

01:38:19.260 general. So yeah, thank you. Yeah, that's that's all I want to do is there's there's weird stuff

01:38:24.220 out there. And I just want to find out what it is. Oh, yeah. I think that that's one of the things

01:38:31.380 like, you know, the show is called Nephilim Death Squad, but we tackle all topics. Nephilim Death

01:38:36.240 Squad, I think, is just a banger of a name. It just hits hard, you know. But, you know, I think

01:38:42.000 in content creation one of the worst things that you can do especially in content creation related

01:38:47.220 to the unknown is to like pigeonhole yourself as the the missing plane guy or or just the the

01:38:55.320 nephilim guy or the whatever guy it's like because you're somehow tying your identity into a theory

01:39:02.260 and that theory is going to evolve over time and if you're intrinsically tied into it that means

01:39:07.860 that you're going to be forced uh to to sort of become part of the public image of that theory

01:39:13.360 and that's a strange place to be and there's no reason to be there there's no reason to be there

01:39:16.960 you're not the information you're just exploring it and and right it's a real tricky thing to do

01:39:22.800 because these things are were certainly previously more difficult to explore but now uh you know the

01:39:31.340 climate has changed a little bit but because they're sort of taboo subjects in the first

01:39:36.480 place the last thing you want to do is become synonymous with one or the other exactly the one

01:39:41.280 thing i will definitely say is to anybody interested in making this kind of content or

01:39:45.660 doing independent research the the value of a jstor subscription it is 20 a month

01:39:52.980 the amount of access you get to the actual academic source that's being cited is priceless

01:40:00.960 that i mean it is there have been so many situations where i read something that somebody

01:40:06.920 like somebody said something out there and i went weird what's their source oh it's from a journal

01:40:15.120 article went and read the journal article and nope it's not what it says at all just utterly

01:40:22.480 invaluable many such cases man but uh i think that that's actually a great place to leave it

01:40:29.580 because i have some things to do in um an hour we got to be back on for another two hours we're

01:40:36.480 going to be on with uh josey yeah josey the redhead libertarian we're doing spaces yeah i

01:40:42.440 mean listen if you want to hop in hop in it's a space is about the paranormal so bring your a game 0.98

01:40:46.900 motherfucker we're talking about high strangeness and we want to have you know you people that 0.96

01:40:51.920 whoever's listening call in we want to we want to hear what you have to say maybe aiding could be 0.99

01:40:57.000 there and just debunk you in real time which would be amazing like i got i got my own my own show at

01:41:02.780 seven but i might be able to pop in for a little while there and uh we it's gonna be a lot of fun

01:41:07.900 we've got a loose confirmation from both shane cashman and and tony merkel that they they may

01:41:15.540 pop in and just share some stuff with us so i got i got some beef with shane really no no real

01:41:22.800 aiden is one of the bears he's one of the bears that was on the edge of his

01:41:28.720 bear suit i do not there was just uh there was one thing shane said on tim cast like a year

01:41:35.140 and a half ago that i just shook my head and was like damn it was it about the clouds the

01:41:39.680 clouds i can't remember what it was it was such a long time ago it was not real beef i was just

01:41:43.820 like oh god i like i wish you hadn't said that clouds are not real what oh this is yeah it's a

01:41:53.400 whole thing all right that's for another time yeah you got a lot to learn so let us know and

01:41:58.840 let everybody know one last time aiden uh where they can find your work and then we'll get out of

01:42:02.540 here sure thing uh sorry my dog is sitting on the chair behind me so i'm gonna move my books uh yeah

01:42:08.440 so i am aiden mattis i am the host and lead researcher of a channel called the lore lodge

01:42:13.380 i am also the guy behind the weird bible the history hut my own personal channel uh aiden

01:42:19.140 mattis and you can find me any of those places you can also find me on twitter at aiden mattis

01:42:23.840 or at the lore lodge uh actually it might be at lore lodge it's at lore lodge and also um i'm

01:42:29.120 basically everywhere is at the aiden mattis or aiden mattis awesome i gotta follow your personal

01:42:34.200 account but thank you again for coming on i'm always baffled when like people very smart people

01:42:39.780 people with large platforms decide to talk to us thank you you dropped some knowledge on us

01:42:45.560 and i'm very appreciative hopefully we'll see you a little bit later and uh i'll try and stop in

01:42:50.740 hell yeah thank you man all right all right guys we'll catch you in an hour see you later

01:42:55.800 the greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room

01:43:01.500 it is constantly telling us what to believe is real

01:43:05.360 If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening, and they have.

Nephilim Death Squad - October 04, 2026

THROWBACK ｜ 019： The Lore Lodge w⧸ Aiden Mattis

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