Nephilim Death Squad - TIME CAPSULE： 021 - Spiritual Warfare w⧸ Tony Merkel

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00:01:27.200 Guys, welcome to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad Time Capsule.

00:01:46.460 This episode that we're going to be getting into today...

00:01:48.920 Well, it's not called Nephilim Death Squad Time Capsule.

00:01:50.900 It's called Nephilim Death Squad, but it's a time capsule within Nephilim Death Squad, right?

00:01:55.060 Unbelievable.

00:01:55.660 I don't know what it's called.

00:01:56.460 Do we call it anything?

00:01:57.940 It's Thursday.

00:01:59.520 Is it Thursday?

00:02:00.540 What day did these come out?

00:02:02.440 It's Sunday.

00:02:03.640 Today's Sunday.

00:02:04.560 No, I'm saying...

00:02:05.480 Oh, because this is going to drop today.

00:02:07.140 Just chop this beginning section off.

00:02:08.500 This is going to drop today, right?

00:02:09.680 I'm not chopping anything.

00:02:10.720 We're just going...

00:02:11.400 Like, this is all staying in.

00:02:13.020 This is...

00:02:13.660 Fine, fine.

00:02:14.800 Guys, this is an older episode.

00:02:16.980 Episode number 21, Spiritual Warfare with Tony Merkel.

00:02:20.200 We thought it would be fun to...

00:02:21.760 So 21, I don't know.

00:02:24.460 Yes, to air these episodes, but then to give you our thoughts, because it's been a long

00:02:29.880 time since this episode, episode number 21, and I'm sure a lot of our ideas on the matters

00:02:35.800 have changed or evolved or developed a little more fully.

00:02:41.300 And so enjoy this episode, but stick around till the end, and Top and I will kind of give

00:02:47.200 you some updates where we stand on some of the ideas that we explored in this episode, and

00:02:51.660 what are our thoughts going forward.

00:02:53.740 So enjoy this time capsule episode, and stick around until the end.

00:02:58.760 All right, let's start it up.

00:03:00.560 Here we go.

00:03:01.600 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:03:07.720 Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:03:12.180 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:03:19.860 And the chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely

00:03:25.740 good.

00:03:26.480 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:03:27.720 There's some Nephilim shit.

00:03:28.900 Welcome back, guys, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:03:57.120 We have an absolute banger for you today in the form of Tony Merkel.

00:04:01.620 But before we get into that, a little bit of business up front.

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00:09:31.120 Ready to start the show?

00:09:32.340 Let's do it.

00:09:33.360 Let's go.

00:09:34.640 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:09:40.340 News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:09:44.740 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:09:53.700 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely huge.

00:09:59.600 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:10:00.740 There's some Nephilim shit.

00:10:01.980 Welcome back, guys, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:10:31.560 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a.

00:10:33.980 The Raven.

00:10:34.900 That's Top Lobster.

00:10:36.140 And today we are joined by a man who virtually blazed the trail that Topp and I follow today.

00:10:42.140 And actually, he doesn't know it.

00:10:43.560 He's responsible for Topp and I meeting each other.

00:10:46.400 I don't know if Topp's forgotten that, but I certainly has it.

00:10:48.860 We're massive fans on the show.

00:10:50.780 And this is a huge moment for us.

00:10:53.260 We're totally thrilled to have on Tony Merkel.

00:10:56.340 Tony, can you please tell the audience a little bit about what it is you do and where they can find your work?

00:11:01.860 Can you tell us how it feels to like you set up a romance in your chat for your app?

00:11:09.160 That's what's going on.

00:11:09.980 We're using it like a dating site at this point.

00:11:12.560 Is that how it happened?

00:11:14.420 Yeah.

00:11:14.800 That's exactly how it happened, dude.

00:11:16.560 He's like, you're crazy?

00:11:17.800 He's like, oh, I'm crazy, too.

00:11:18.980 Let's do a show.

00:11:19.840 I'm like, all right.

00:11:21.360 Topp said something crazy in the chat.

00:11:22.960 I was like, I like the cut of this guy's jib.

00:11:24.580 Found him on Twitter.

00:11:25.680 And then the rest is history, man.

00:11:27.380 That's wild.

00:11:29.020 That's wild.

00:11:29.780 I did not know that.

00:11:31.060 I did not know that.

00:11:31.980 That's right.

00:11:33.260 Well, I guess the confessionals memberships are serving multiple purposes these days.

00:11:38.260 That charge more.

00:11:39.680 That's fantastic.

00:11:40.880 No, I can't do that.

00:11:41.940 I think in today's time and stuff, everybody else is charging more.

00:11:45.120 We're going to keep it all the same.

00:11:46.300 And hopefully God will just provide the rest of the way.

00:11:48.260 Um, but I got to say that intro slaps.

00:11:55.200 I like it, right?

00:11:56.500 Who is that?

00:11:57.400 Who is that?

00:11:58.380 That's a, well, Vinnie Paz, end of days.

00:12:00.980 Every time I hear it, every time.

00:12:03.040 And there was actually a point where David's headphones, for some reason, he wasn't hearing

00:12:06.660 that like music.

00:12:07.880 And I was like, every time we come into the show, I'm like, I'm ready to like flip the

00:12:11.460 desk over and he's not listening to it.

00:12:13.320 I just come in super hype every single time.

00:12:15.440 Vinnie Paz does it every time.

00:12:16.800 I'm glad that we're like vibrating like that now.

00:12:19.140 Oh yeah.

00:12:20.000 That's like that East coast vibe.

00:12:21.520 I mean, I grew up in like the, I think it's called old school hip hop now.

00:12:26.840 I mean, the mid two thousands and stuff, the East coast, Philadelphia.

00:12:31.040 Um, I mean, it's just that, that had that hard.

00:12:34.220 I love it.

00:12:35.140 Anyways.

00:12:35.720 Uh, yeah, I'm Tony Merkel.

00:12:37.080 I host the confessionals podcast.

00:12:39.140 Uh, I, I run, uh, Merkel media as well.

00:12:42.720 It's an inspiring media company and, uh, we are, we're trying our best to venture into

00:12:50.080 not just podcasts, but, uh, films as well.

00:12:53.760 Uh, one day, well, definitely movies.

00:12:55.940 We're coming out with our first movie in, in the summertime this year.

00:12:58.820 Uh, we already shot it.

00:13:00.200 It's in production now, post-production.

00:13:02.500 And, uh, I would love to do kids cartoons one day, things like that.

00:13:05.680 But one thing at a time I'm learning as I get older that I get a lot of ideas and, um,

00:13:11.420 jumping on my ideas right away without fear got me here, but to sustain, I need to start

00:13:17.480 developing plans with these dreams and ideas that I have.

00:13:21.400 So, um, I am no longer just thinking of things and executing.

00:13:25.460 I am now, uh, thinking of things, planning the execution.

00:13:29.960 And if it makes sense, then we execute.

00:13:32.740 Uh, so yeah, that's a little bit about me.

00:13:34.780 Uh, former truck driver turned podcaster full-time and, uh, I just have fun talking about weird

00:13:40.280 stuff.

00:13:41.600 Nice.

00:13:42.160 I think delegation is going to be probably one of your keys to success, but you got to find

00:13:46.160 people that you trust and that's like, uh, it's not easy, not easy.

00:13:50.040 Yeah.

00:13:50.140 It's like, I feel like I've, I'm, I'm juggling maybe seven different things at the same time

00:13:53.640 and you're not doing your best unless you got two, you know, but it is what it is.

00:13:58.880 It's, it's, um, when you, when you build something up on your own, it's not easy to hand it off

00:14:06.180 to anybody.

00:14:07.240 Then you're, you will be a micromanager at first because it's your baby and you don't think

00:14:11.900 anybody can do what you do and, and they're to a certain extent, you're right.

00:14:15.640 Um, but they can, if you teach them and you just have to be willing to do that.

00:14:20.760 And, you know, um, I'm getting to that point where I'm understanding that in order for me

00:14:26.560 to take it to another level, I need to be able to let go of certain things.

00:14:30.920 Um, I learned that with production.

00:14:32.500 I haven't produced one of my podcast episodes since March of 2023.

00:14:35.780 My brother came on full-time.

00:14:37.140 He started doing it for me.

00:14:38.060 That's that.

00:14:39.400 Um, but I, I need to be able to let out, let go of other things because whenever I'm focusing

00:14:44.760 on one thing, there's five other things that are being neglected just because I have so

00:14:50.220 much to do that whenever I focus in on one thing that I have to do, five other things

00:14:54.860 that I have to do are being neglected at that very moment.

00:14:57.340 And so what can we do?

00:14:58.500 What can we do to get you some like good people that you can delegate stuff to?

00:15:02.460 So that way we can get this new podcast series that I've been waiting for like years for,

00:15:06.680 a man, this is one of the things.

00:15:08.120 I know.

00:15:08.700 I wish I never talked about it to be honest with you, because it's just been, it's been,

00:15:14.240 it was, I never expected it to go this long.

00:15:17.600 Um, it's just been, it's just been one of those things where people, I, first of all,

00:15:25.080 didn't expect people to be so fascinated by it as I was.

00:15:29.020 Um, but then I, the main character of the story, I really thought he would have talked

00:15:36.300 to me by now.

00:15:37.560 I really did.

00:15:39.720 And to this day, he, he knows who I am.

00:15:42.840 He knows that I talk about him.

00:15:44.840 He will not talk to me.

00:15:46.280 He said he would talk to me when the timing's right, but I don't know when that is.

00:15:50.360 And I can't wait forever.

00:15:52.240 Uh, so I'm in this really weird spot, but I am working on it.

00:15:57.760 Um, so my original recording with, uh, with the guy that told me about all this stuff,

00:16:04.600 uh, we have, well, he's decided that he doesn't want his, his real name attached to this.

00:16:10.040 So I'm in the process of changing his name on the original recording.

00:16:13.580 We're also, um, through the absolute amazing Nephilim AI.

00:16:20.700 Uh, we are utilizing that to change voices.

00:16:25.620 Uh, we are changing, um, we even changed the name of the book.

00:16:31.320 Uh, because I, I, the, listen, the author requested me to not tell the name of the book

00:16:40.080 because the author has tried to divorce themselves from their own book.

00:16:43.860 They've wiped it off the internet.

00:16:45.720 And, um, I'm trying to be respectful, you know?

00:16:50.720 I don't think that plan is going to work because there are certain people in this world

00:16:56.220 who do know the name of the book, who I've been made aware that can't really keep it to

00:17:04.500 themselves.

00:17:05.520 Uh, and so it's not really my fault.

00:17:09.860 I feel bad, but I'm going to do everything I can to, because here's the thing.

00:17:14.300 Like if the world knows the name of the book, it doesn't change anything.

00:17:17.520 You're not going to get the book.

00:17:18.860 It's not for sale.

00:17:20.060 You can't get it anywhere, anywhere.

00:17:23.820 I have one of the only copies physically cop in the world.

00:17:28.320 And the only thing that's going to come out of it is the author's life is going to be put

00:17:33.160 through hell.

00:17:34.100 They've been trying to get away from it.

00:17:35.800 They've moved halfway across the country to get away from it.

00:17:38.140 And that's the only thing that's going to change is that the person, the person that

00:17:41.840 is trying to stay away from it is going to be dragged into this by thousands of people.

00:17:46.120 It's a shame.

00:17:47.660 Do you think, sorry, as, uh, the audience kind of waits on bated breath.

00:17:53.120 Well, I was going to bounce off of that, but, but top, you want to, you want to delve a

00:17:57.500 little bit further?

00:17:57.920 Uh, I was just going to say, do you think in any way you might be responsible for, uh,

00:18:03.040 some kind of manifestation of, I mean, literally the Nephilim in Miami, things like that.

00:18:08.240 Like we, we've been saying, uh, the term Nephilim shit a lot.

00:18:12.200 And since we've been saying it, it's become like, uh, I don't know, like I clipped Owen

00:18:17.420 Benjamin.

00:18:17.960 We just had Sam Tripoli saying it, but it's, it's, it's, we've lost control of this stuff.

00:18:21.600 So it's, it's out there in the ether now to the point where we were mentioning the other

00:18:26.160 day on the show, you had entities in Miami, but the, the people that are not reporting,

00:18:32.440 but are talking about this, a lot of them are comfortable with saying Nephilim in Miami.

00:18:36.660 Whereas six months ago, when you had the aliens, aliens in Las Vegas, the tall ones, right?

00:18:43.580 We're calling them aliens or entities, but never Nephilim.

00:18:46.940 And now that's being moved into the dialectic or at least what people are allowing themselves

00:18:51.640 to perceive.

00:18:52.240 So with you, what you're doing here is, and what you might do with this next thing.

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00:19:40.160 Hashtag make a play.

00:19:41.540 What does that, do you think about that at all?

00:19:45.540 Like, I would argue, regardless of whatever, and of course, you know, pass it to Tony in

00:19:51.260 a second, but regardless of what Tony thinks from the outside looking in, yeah, dude, you

00:19:55.180 move the narrative.

00:19:56.020 Like, the reason that we were able to get Nephilim shit into the verbal zeitgeist is because of

00:20:02.960 your influence.

00:20:03.980 And so, whether it's by proxy or directly, you've moved the conversation in a pretty

00:20:11.100 dramatic way, even on a platform that, like, it's funny because you're not there on Twitter.

00:20:15.720 I wish you were.

00:20:16.300 Twitter needs Tony Merkel.

00:20:18.000 Yeah.

00:20:18.220 But I'm there.

00:20:19.500 I'm just very inactive.

00:20:21.440 Yeah.

00:20:21.860 Well, it's the place to be right now.

00:20:23.780 It's a lot of fun.

00:20:24.400 It's the wild, wild west to a certain degree.

00:20:26.020 And the conversation that's being had about all these Nephilim and everything, that's

00:20:29.920 your influence.

00:20:31.060 So, you know, I'm interested to hear your take on it, but I also want to say that regardless

00:20:35.680 of whatever you think, you did kind of, this is almost your brain baby in a way, which is

00:20:40.480 very interesting to see the development of this.

00:20:43.680 That's one of the most crazy things that anybody has ever said to me.

00:20:49.640 I don't know if I want that responsibility.

00:20:56.020 I, I just, um, no, I don't, I refuse to accept that.

00:21:03.160 Uh, I, listen, I've been doing this for seven years, podcasting about all this stuff.

00:21:10.800 When I first started the podcast, before I started the podcast, I had this thought and

00:21:16.200 I was like, I was, I was trying to figure out what Bigfoot was and I was driving track

00:21:21.960 to trailer.

00:21:22.420 I had a, uh, I had a Facebook group called Pennsylvania Sasquatch research.

00:21:27.560 There was no research going on.

00:21:28.960 We're just talking Bigfoot crap.

00:21:31.080 And, um, on weekends I would go hiking up in Pennsylvania and I would just go look for

00:21:36.800 this thing.

00:21:37.460 And I was like, man, when I first started, I was like, it's not gonna be that hard.

00:21:41.420 Like if this thing's out there, I'm going to find it.

00:21:43.700 Like it ain't going to be that hard.

00:21:44.840 I'm going to find a freaking Bigfoot.

00:21:46.120 It ain't that hard.

00:21:46.680 It's a big creature.

00:21:47.660 I'm going to find, I'm going to find clues of it and I'm going to go track it down.

00:21:51.540 I'm going to get famous or something.

00:21:52.920 I don't know.

00:21:53.800 And, um, it's hard.

00:21:56.380 And, uh, the, the longer I looked at it, I was like, no, this, this thing is a physical

00:22:03.700 creature.

00:22:05.120 I don't want to talk about it in this woo woo stuff.

00:22:07.740 This, these people that are talking about, oh, Bigfoot mind speaks with me.

00:22:11.140 Get out of here.

00:22:12.460 Bigfoot ain't no mind speaking with you.

00:22:14.820 Crazy.

00:22:16.280 And, um, and then I, I came across and I was raised in the, in the church, right?

00:22:23.360 But nobody talked about Nephilim in the church.

00:22:26.180 And I came across this Nephilim idea and I was like, hold on a second.

00:22:32.580 Fallen angels had sex with what?

00:22:34.580 Like, and I was like, and then what was the offspring?

00:22:37.740 And then there's this book called Enoch what?

00:22:40.400 And what does it say in there?

00:22:41.900 And then when I read about how the fallen angels not only did that with women, but they

00:22:48.340 did it with all of God's creation.

00:22:49.600 I was like, hold on a second.

00:22:50.900 Then my gears start turning.

00:22:51.760 And this may not even be accurate, but this is where my mind went.

00:22:54.740 Uh, my mom was like, what if fallen angels not only had sex with women, but they had

00:22:59.700 sex with like gorillas or something.

00:23:01.940 What would that offspring look like?

00:23:04.540 Bigfoot.

00:23:05.280 And I was like, holy crap.

00:23:07.060 And then I started thinking about like this idea of like, what if Bigfoot's like the Nephilim

00:23:11.120 or like a type of Nephilim in offshoot.

00:23:13.940 And then I, and then, um, the podcasting thing came on my radar and I was like, still in this

00:23:20.880 like camp of like Bigfoot's a physical creature we're trying to keep up with and find.

00:23:25.000 And then there's like this bubbling thing beneath the surface that I was trying to sort out in

00:23:29.500 my own heart and mind.

00:23:31.200 And, um, right when I started the podcast, I was like, I don't know if I should talk about

00:23:36.100 this.

00:23:36.480 I don't know.

00:23:37.820 I don't know.

00:23:39.400 And then by the fourth episode, I was like, I'm going to talk about it.

00:23:42.420 And we did a whole, our first, uh, Nephilim episode was episode four with my professor

00:23:48.320 from college who talked about Nephilim.

00:23:50.280 And, um, he came into my, my quote unquote studio.

00:23:54.160 It was my, uh, my third bedroom in the house that became my daughter's bedroom years later.

00:23:59.320 And he sat across from me of a folding, uh, plastic folding table with, uh, two microphones

00:24:07.000 that I, I had gotten and awful recording, but, um, that's where it started for me.

00:24:13.540 And, uh, since then it's just been an evolution of a thought process.

00:24:20.100 And I don't think my professor from college would probably agree with everything that I

00:24:25.060 think today, or maybe how I view it, uh, my leanings.

00:24:30.140 Um, but we all agree on the same thing as far as him and I go, which is the foundation

00:24:35.800 is always Jesus.

00:24:37.220 And from there we build, um, if it, if anything that we come across takes away from who Jesus

00:24:44.080 Christ is, then we don't, we don't play that.

00:24:46.500 And, um, but, but I, I don't think that the Bible tells us everything that happened throughout

00:24:53.640 every moment of history.

00:24:55.160 It tells us all the key ingredients to point us towards Christ.

00:25:00.000 But, um, there's a whole history of humanity and the whole history of the world that is

00:25:04.140 not in the Bible.

00:25:05.600 Um, and people have a hard time grappling with that within the religious community.

00:25:11.340 Um, so I don't know how I got on that, but it's take it back to your thing.

00:25:15.920 I don't know if I am responsible for all this stuff, but, um, I do find it interesting how

00:25:24.420 the more I talk about it, more it seems like it's popping up.

00:25:28.680 I mean, it's really weird.

00:25:31.960 Can I say this one?

00:25:33.100 I think the, the most valuable thing on your show, you explore a plethora of topics, right?

00:25:39.860 Because it's, it's basically the supernatural through the biblical lens.

00:25:45.180 And that right there is, in my opinion, the most valuable thing that's come of this, at

00:25:51.160 least from, from my personal experience.

00:25:52.740 I've been a conspiracy theorist for like 16 years, maybe 17 years now.

00:25:57.620 And what I find is that it's, it's very much like developing a giant jigsaw puzzle.

00:26:04.620 And you're only, uh, you've got an island of puzzle pieces over here and that paints

00:26:09.600 a picture.

00:26:10.080 And then you've got another island over here and that paints a picture.

00:26:12.540 And you spend all this time wondering how these chunks of jigsaw pieces connect to one

00:26:17.000 another.

00:26:17.660 And after, I guess I've been listening to your show for a couple of years now.

00:26:23.920 So it would have been like after 14 or 15 years, I finally realized that, oh, the biblical

00:26:30.640 lens is the glue that brings all of these chunks together.

00:26:34.620 And from then on, man, it was like, I was dealing with all these topics separately from

00:26:43.500 one another.

00:26:44.480 And it was, it wasn't allowing my thought process to flow very effectively.

00:26:47.940 I knew that things weren't as they seemed, that I knew that there was corruption that

00:26:51.480 was like beyond the scope of the average human being.

00:26:54.380 Um, and that there was a, a really immense spiritual aspect that was integral to this entire

00:27:03.000 picture, but trying to figure out how it fit together.

00:27:05.360 Didn't really, I wasn't quite there yet.

00:27:07.960 And then all of a sudden listening to your show, uh, and, and that's another thing I love

00:27:13.080 about your show is everybody comes to your show with a different piece, a different piece

00:27:16.700 of the puzzle.

00:27:17.220 And you're discovering it in real time alongside the audience.

00:27:22.100 And so I was able to have this moment, uh, just like the audience and, and almost felt

00:27:28.100 like, just like you were, it was like epiphanous.

00:27:31.220 I was going, oh my God, that was the missing magnifying lens.

00:27:36.520 The missing piece glue.

00:27:37.620 The piece that he adds is, is Jesus Christ right in the center of it.

00:27:41.460 Right.

00:27:42.000 Cause you came from conspiracy.

00:27:43.780 I came from like, I grew my following, uh, in politics and, and art.

00:27:49.060 And that's like libertarian politics where you would take, like, I'm a Christian, but they

00:27:54.120 would take God out of it and just explore it philosophically and, you know, really read

00:27:58.860 into it without, and try to try to find as much logic as possible in the political realm.

00:28:03.720 And none of it made any sense.

00:28:05.140 Like I could, I, all these books behind me, that's like, oh, like Rothbard, Mises, stuff

00:28:08.500 like that.

00:28:09.180 It would bore you like human action is this thick.

00:28:12.200 And in the end I realized, oh no, this is all spiritual.

00:28:16.380 And it's really your show that kind of allowed me to see that because I grew up in the church

00:28:21.260 as well.

00:28:21.920 And I found it kind of corny because they're not, they weren't addressing the issues in

00:28:27.000 my opinion that were really fundamental in my life.

00:28:30.200 So, you know, and I, and there's a, there's a place for that too in church.

00:28:33.600 You know, there's a place for evangelism and different kinds of outreach and people who

00:28:37.220 aren't ready for this kind of stuff.

00:28:39.180 But for me going to Sunday school as like a 12 year old, I was always asking about the

00:28:43.780 Bible.

00:28:44.020 And I had a good Sunday school teacher that would go and read and come back to me and

00:28:47.380 say like, well, this is what this meant.

00:28:48.700 This is what that meant.

00:28:49.460 Um, but yeah, your, your show had me go back and relook at Christianity in a different

00:28:56.840 light.

00:28:57.480 Like from a point where I wanted nothing to do with the church.

00:29:01.280 I played, I met my wife there, played guitar there, got kicked out of the church for it.

00:29:05.880 Not, not for anything I did wrong.

00:29:07.720 I told the pastor to shove it because he was stealing money.

00:29:09.860 It's a whole thing.

00:29:10.860 Um, well, I would say you're in the right then, but Hey, yeah.

00:29:14.760 You know, it was a reason why I'm not a pastor.

00:29:16.540 So I don't know.

00:29:18.060 Yeah, it was, it was, it was a whole thing, but it was, it discouraged me from going back

00:29:21.680 to the church.

00:29:22.200 And even now I can't really go back to the church because it's, it, some of the, I mean,

00:29:26.480 the ones around me seem kind of like, uh, like they don't really understand what's going

00:29:31.400 on.

00:29:32.300 And I, I've been looking, we, we had a Orthodox Christian on, I've been looking at that type

00:29:37.660 of church.

00:29:38.080 Maybe that one might make more sense for, you know, where I need to go.

00:29:42.360 So, but, uh, well, let me say this, uh, I, a couple of things.

00:29:48.400 One, um, I went through a phase where I, I didn't go to church during the show.

00:29:56.100 Um, I was disenfranchised and I was mad.

00:29:58.780 Uh, I was mad that, uh, the church that I was going to, that was, uh, the, the long story,

00:30:06.440 but I was just like, you guys literally are rejecting the supernatural, natural aspects of

00:30:11.920 God, uh, for comfortability and for what I perceived as you don't want to scare the money

00:30:18.080 away.

00:30:19.140 Um, and living in the Northeast, you guys are in Florida now, but I can tell by your accent,

00:30:24.020 you're from the city, probably New York.

00:30:26.720 New York.

00:30:27.540 Yeah.

00:30:28.340 Um, but like up in that area, uh, it's, the culture does not leave room for supernatural.

00:30:35.100 Uh, it just doesn't.

00:30:37.500 And even these Pentecostal churches, which I was going to, um, this, the church that I

00:30:42.000 went was going to was started by the professor that went to my college, that was teaching

00:30:48.200 at my college, which was an Assemblies of God Pentecostal Bible college.

00:30:51.640 Um, but, um, I was so disenfranchised by so many different things.

00:30:56.480 I was like, I'm done.

00:30:57.500 I can grow spiritually on my own and I don't need y'all.

00:31:03.260 And I was doing great until I realized that I needed that.

00:31:08.600 I needed that, that Christian fellowship in my life.

00:31:11.520 And I started seeing it because anybody who's honest with himself will see it.

00:31:18.400 Uh, I saw a very, it was gradual, but it was a decline in my, my health spiritually because

00:31:26.280 I, the only people I was associating with were people who were not claiming Christ and, uh,

00:31:31.100 it took a burden on me.

00:31:32.500 Uh, so I say that just to say, uh, as the guest on your show, I encourage you to find

00:31:36.680 a church.

00:31:37.220 Don't give up.

00:31:38.120 Um, but, uh, I also think it's really interesting what you guys are saying because so I, over

00:31:46.540 the years, people hear how the show goes and trust me, if you think it, I've, I've read

00:31:51.800 it in an email to me.

00:31:52.800 Um, people will say, I wish you would have said this.

00:31:56.240 I wish you would have told this person that.

00:31:58.900 Why didn't you, why did you let them say all that stuff?

00:32:04.160 I let people, I, I lead people to the water.

00:32:09.160 I don't force them to drink.

00:32:11.140 And when you guys are saying how you guys came to this understanding from your different

00:32:16.280 backgrounds and stuff, it's, it's literally music to my ears because, um, that's the goal.

00:32:23.780 That's the goal for, for me.

00:32:25.940 Uh, I'm not interested in debating people.

00:32:28.260 I'm not interested in trying to publicly humiliate people and improve to them that I'm right and

00:32:32.980 they're wrong.

00:32:33.420 Uh, I believe that just through open discord and just the conversation, uh, you let the

00:32:40.700 cards fall where they may and the truth will show itself.

00:32:43.940 And I think that when people look into these different topics, whether it's coming from

00:32:47.760 political angle or a spiritual angle or paranormal angle or whatever, uh, conspiracy angle, uh,

00:32:53.840 you do get to a point where the, to marry everything together, you're just like, what, what, what's

00:33:01.780 that glue piece?

00:33:03.200 And for me, I've found that it is the spiritual aspect of it.

00:33:07.140 The Bible, the God aspect, when you start looking into it and you're like, oh, well, that makes

00:33:11.740 sense why this is over here then.

00:33:13.220 And that's over there.

00:33:14.200 And all of a sudden things are start coming together.

00:33:16.760 And, uh, it's funny because I have people in my, my real life, you know, my online life,

00:33:21.240 but my real life who will say things like such a, such like, um, I wish so-and-so would

00:33:26.580 just come to Christ because everything they're saying is right, but they just don't see why

00:33:31.640 they believe what they believe because they don't, they don't give God and the Bible any

00:33:36.160 kind of credence.

00:33:37.800 And that, that kind of attitude is what I get reciprocated to me in emails a lot of times.

00:33:44.420 Why didn't you just say, and it's like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to sacrifice

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00:35:22.060 At the altar of your entertainment.

00:35:24.520 Um, I'm like your entertainment of the, I got you.

00:35:30.160 Um, isn't worth me trying to prove somebody wrong in front of tens of thousands of people.

00:35:37.380 I wish I could say hundreds of thousands, but I could say tens of thousands of people.

00:35:41.120 Um, uh, I mean, let's put it this way, you know, in the seven day period there, it over

00:35:48.360 a hundred thousand people listen to my podcast.

00:35:50.640 And so, um, that's a lot of people.

00:35:54.460 Um, and I'm not going to have people coming on my show and their only interaction with

00:36:03.760 me was a guy who's overzealous trying to get his point across that Jesus is, is the only

00:36:10.900 way, which is what I believe.

00:36:13.480 And, and what's that, what's that going to accomplish?

00:36:17.800 Here's the thing, Tony, you've done a wonderful job.

00:36:20.560 Like I've watched a lot of Christian media.

00:36:22.480 Like my mom is, you know, big in the church.

00:36:24.380 She lives on my property over here and always has some kind of Christian movie or something

00:36:28.620 on.

00:36:29.500 And the overall theme of Christian movies and most music is that it's corny.

00:36:35.100 And why is that?

00:36:36.680 Because it's going to sound crazy, but like they're putting Jesus right in your face,

00:36:41.360 right?

00:36:41.580 So instead of it being about the art, it's about Jesus.

00:36:44.380 And that's great.

00:36:44.940 It should be, but it doesn't move people.

00:36:47.620 It has to be like this message, like your show is about Jesus Christ.

00:36:51.440 I don't care what you want to say in the end of the day, when, when I, when you compile

00:36:55.720 all these episodes and you kind of say, what the, what's Tony talking about?

00:36:58.660 He's talking about Jesus Christ the whole time, but you're not saying it it's implied.

00:37:02.820 So the audience that you're reaching is bigger.

00:37:05.060 And it's also this kind of like underlying, it's like, watch a couple of episodes, get comfortable

00:37:09.460 here.

00:37:09.720 And then once they're comfortable, they're like, they, they put it together themselves.

00:37:12.980 Whereas if you were obvious with it, I honestly, I probably would have turned it

00:37:16.700 off because then it seems like, like, all right, this is something, what is this?

00:37:20.660 Like, there's an agenda here, you know?

00:37:22.620 It's almost like, it's like, what's better to, to dress in a Jesus t-shirt or to have Jesus

00:37:29.140 in your heart.

00:37:30.040 Right.

00:37:30.320 And it's like, well, that's the show.

00:37:31.460 The show isn't wearing a Jesus shirt.

00:37:34.140 It's, it's at the heart of the show.

00:37:35.920 I mean, I, I, um, I appreciate that guys.

00:37:40.400 I really do.

00:37:41.260 Um, I, I just, I just don't want, I just don't want to let, let God down, man.

00:37:52.040 Like I, I, it's one of my biggest fears with doing this show for the past seven years that

00:37:57.680 I'm misstepping somewhere and I'm, and I'm going to, I'm, I'm, I'm out of place, you know?

00:38:03.720 Um, and so I just, uh, I've had conversations with people off air that were guests, you

00:38:11.920 know, like people assume that, Hey, the recording's over.

00:38:14.660 So it must've been done.

00:38:16.500 No, no.

00:38:17.520 Like, I mean, more so these days than not, because I am busy and I'm running around, but

00:38:23.340 like up until like the last year and a half, two years, I mean, I was notorious.

00:38:27.340 My wife was mad at me all the time because I have a three o'clock interview and we connected

00:38:32.760 three.

00:38:33.080 We don't start till four and I'm getting off at eight o'clock at night because I was

00:38:36.960 just talking and she's like, you're like, it's, it's part of being an extrovert, you

00:38:41.300 know, but the, the, the, the podcast was only an hour.

00:38:44.460 Um, there, there's, there, there's, there's a, there was a lot of conversation.

00:38:48.540 Right.

00:38:49.140 And I, I just believe that those conversations deserve to be had in private where I could,

00:38:55.120 where I could really convey to the person.

00:38:56.500 So they understand that they're not sitting there while I'm talking, thinking something else

00:38:59.420 like this guy's doing a show right now.

00:39:01.300 Well, like, I want you to understand this is how I feel.

00:39:05.060 Let's talk about it.

00:39:05.860 You know, if it was there, I mean, sometimes the conversation is not there to be had and

00:39:09.260 that's fine with me too.

00:39:10.000 Um, but, uh, yeah, I, as far as the way I approach things and stuff, it's just, um, I am who I am.

00:39:18.040 The conversation will be had when it's relevant, when it comes up, uh, over the years, it's come

00:39:23.640 up more and more because when you have the host as an outward spoken Christian, I'm not, I'm not

00:39:28.500 ashamed of that.

00:39:29.200 And I will talk about it.

00:39:30.820 Uh, there's other Christians in the world that have weird experiences that I've gone

00:39:34.500 through and they're feel comfortable talking to me.

00:39:36.960 And so when they come on to talk about their weird experiences, they bring the God component

00:39:40.220 in it.

00:39:40.460 Guess what?

00:39:40.860 We're going to talk about it.

00:39:41.900 And so it becomes a snowball effect and it happens.

00:39:44.260 Um, and so, I mean, uh, I, I was uncomfortable with this for many years, but, uh, as time's

00:39:50.680 going on and stuff, I definitely do look at my, my show as a type of ministry, which

00:39:55.000 is kind of crazy because I went to Bible college, dropped out and never thought I'd do

00:39:58.860 ministry ever.

00:40:00.400 Um, but here I am and, uh, that's how I view it.

00:40:04.220 And I don't believe that the podcast is going to go anywhere unless God decides that it's

00:40:08.500 my time and it's time to go away.

00:40:10.320 And I'm fine with that.

00:40:11.480 I'm fine with that.

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00:42:07.440 that did help her, um, get rid of, you know, whatever was ailing her, which we still, we're

00:42:14.080 still not really sure exactly what it was.

00:42:16.780 Lyme disease, maybe just some kind of spells put on, but I don't know, crazy, crazy stuff

00:42:21.360 going on.

00:42:22.180 Um, so yeah, I mean, we did the sauna and we did this and, uh, this was beneficial.

00:42:28.000 I actually did see, cause so my wife is psychotic and she was like, Hey babe, come here, check

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00:42:46.980 They wreak havoc.

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00:44:13.440 That's the case for everything, right?

00:44:14.900 It's like whenever the times, but it reminds me of, uh, this guy that we were talking to.

00:44:19.840 And I don't know if he might talk to you.

00:44:21.600 I think, I don't know if you guys have anything set up, but, uh, Colin is a friend.

00:44:25.420 I've been talking with him for a year.

00:44:27.920 I had just the top lobster show where I was doing it by myself at one point, like just

00:44:31.520 doing interviews with people in real life about like, they had weird experiences, like

00:44:35.940 my aunt and stuff like that.

00:44:37.400 And, uh, he, he was messaging me back then.

00:44:39.920 He was like, listen, I have all this stuff going on and I want to talk about it, but I

00:44:43.840 can't talk about it.

00:44:45.040 And I never, I never pushed him.

00:44:46.540 I was like, listen, whenever you're ready, whenever you're ready to talk about this.

00:44:50.380 Let's do it.

00:44:51.040 And he came, uh, maybe a month ago and he was like, now, now's the time.

00:44:56.340 And he came on the show and told us a story that, uh, it just, for me, I was like, well,

00:45:03.720 I knew the story, but like hearing it from him kind of like knocked me sideways because

00:45:08.240 there's so many parallels and pieces to your show and all of these little things that were

00:45:13.760 not, not even taken, but like his piece just fit in very nicely and kind of made me think

00:45:20.100 about like, uh, about the, the underground spiritual battle that's happening, right?

00:45:26.540 Where LA Marzulli might say, uh, they're assembling, they're, you know, they're taking people, they're

00:45:32.480 doing some kind of program.

00:45:33.860 They're building an army.

00:45:35.680 And, uh, Colin had a similar experience where he's talking to an entity and the entity is

00:45:42.300 telling him to do good things.

00:45:44.600 Like actually like get his life together.

00:45:46.720 He came from a place where he was, you know, divorced down.

00:45:49.780 And all of a sudden he hears a voice in this, he's working in a job that he didn't want to

00:45:55.200 be at.

00:45:55.660 The voice just tells him, turn around, leave, never come back.

00:45:58.920 And he listens and he continues to listen and follow the directions of this entity of

00:46:04.920 what it's telling him, uh, to the point where he's having like experiences where he's, he's

00:46:11.560 describing them as physical.

00:46:12.760 I mean, David, you, you could probably recap some of these things better than I can.

00:46:16.100 Well, he, initially he does, um, leave his job at the behest of this voice.

00:46:23.280 Uh, but over time he starts to use, uh, psilocybin mushrooms to get into contact.

00:46:30.580 And, and when I say contact, it would say, okay, take these now go lay down and he'd do

00:46:36.880 it.

00:46:37.060 Yeah.

00:46:37.160 So he would go into the room, put an eye mask on and his girlfriend is going, what the

00:46:41.720 hell are you doing?

00:46:42.700 And he's, and she's not using mushrooms.

00:46:45.520 This is just something that he's doing at the behest of, you know, these voices.

00:46:49.080 He said, initially it would show itself like images and flashcards in his mind.

00:46:54.080 Um, but over extended mushroom use, these things came through as actual voices and pretty

00:47:00.940 reliably, he would communicate with something that he would describe as like a man with blue

00:47:06.300 skin.

00:47:07.500 Um, there was also an event where there was somewhat of a clinical setting and there was

00:47:14.560 two bald men with beards, uh, that looked like doctors who were.

00:47:19.120 Well, that, that one's interesting because, uh, he would, so the entity would tell, would

00:47:24.420 tell him, uh, all right, take this, take the mushrooms, see me in the room.

00:47:27.660 Right.

00:47:28.780 Um, this time he hadn't taken mushrooms for a while and the entity kind of just tapped

00:47:33.400 him on the shoulder and said, Hey, take the mushrooms.

00:47:36.100 I'm meeting you in the room.

00:47:37.440 He did it.

00:47:38.420 He said, he just went on a mushroom trip.

00:47:40.420 Nothing happened.

00:47:41.340 The next day he's sober, lays down.

00:47:44.720 And this experience in the clinical setting was almost like, he describes it like an

00:47:49.180 abduction, an abduction scene that happened.

00:47:51.940 And, you know, men, men in white coats are, they have them on the table or something.

00:47:55.720 And they're telling him like, you consented to this.

00:47:57.780 They're saying that they're upgrading him.

00:48:00.160 And, uh, that's like grading him for a war.

00:48:03.880 Yeah.

00:48:04.240 For, yeah.

00:48:05.000 For whatever he consented to, because the, the entity that he was talking to initially

00:48:09.040 seemed to be preparing him for a war.

00:48:11.740 Like, he's like, you have to get in physical shape.

00:48:13.300 You have to, you know, change your diet.

00:48:14.940 You've got to do this.

00:48:16.020 He, the entity actually sent him to church, which is bizarre to me.

00:48:19.920 Like, I don't know where to put that.

00:48:21.680 I know when people speak with entities, it's generally a negative experience or at least

00:48:27.740 will be a negative experience leading to one, right?

00:48:30.000 They're, they're setting up your disaster.

00:48:31.940 Why would you set this guy up to be in good physical shape?

00:48:35.760 Why would, why would you send him to church?

00:48:39.260 Why would you have his mind sharper, sharper than it was before?

00:48:42.120 And it, and his mind has gotten sharper.

00:48:43.680 Cause I, I mean, I have DMS with him throughout, throughout like a year where I could tell

00:48:48.360 that the guy was kind of like teetering and now he seems more coherent.

00:48:52.220 Like, like he actually understands what's going on.

00:48:55.140 I don't know where to put this stuff.

00:48:56.600 Yeah, because typically, um, I've actually heard someone on your show, Tony mentioned, um, Dr. Jerry Marzinski, who I definitely think you should reach out to clinical psychologists in the field for 35 years dealing with schizophrenia, uh, directly.

00:49:12.220 So in the, uh, institutions and then in the prisons, once they shut down the institutions and he came to the conclusion that these are, these people, these that are experiencing these different voices are being influenced by, uh, demonic entities.

00:49:27.160 And one of the things that he puts down to a pattern, a set of patterns, he said, there's 23 patterns that these things always follow.

00:49:34.500 One of them is that the overall mental and physical health of the person always declines dramatically until the very end where they're barely a shell of themselves.

00:49:42.520 This is the only situation where I've heard, where these things are telling him to run miles, to go to church, to eat healthier, to lift weights, all these different things.

00:49:51.780 Very bizarre.

00:49:52.600 I mean, I would never advocate communing with any entities.

00:49:56.060 Um, but I have to say this so far is best.

00:49:59.220 Yeah.

00:49:59.440 This so far though is best case scenario.

00:50:01.220 And then ultimately this all leads to an experience where he ends up in what he describes as a gold and marble room.

00:50:12.280 And with like a clock, like there's, he said in the sky, there's like a clock spinning with gears, like a golden clock.

00:50:19.520 I don't know what any of this is.

00:50:21.680 And he communes with what he feels like is God.

00:50:25.260 He doesn't look at God.

00:50:27.060 He doesn't see God, but he feels the presence of God and then is told that they're going to have a conversation that he's not going to remember.

00:50:36.520 And then the last thing he remembers is walking with God, not able to look at him, but being in the presence of him and walking with him.

00:50:44.860 And so, you know, now, um, I believe he still has experiences, nothing as large of a scale as that.

00:50:55.560 But the voices will come through now without mushroom use.

00:50:59.620 So, so in other words, he's not even using the mushrooms anymore.

00:51:01.940 He's not doing any drugs.

00:51:03.380 So there's no drugs involved.

00:51:04.980 There's healthy eating.

00:51:06.460 There's exercise.

00:51:08.040 There's going to church and pursuing a relationship with God at the behest of, I don't know, several entities.

00:51:15.960 Well, the thing, the thing called itself, because I did ask him and he said one time it called itself Anu.

00:51:21.080 And I was like, that's not good because that's like the God of death in Egyptian lore, right?

00:51:26.840 And he was like, oh, I don't know.

00:51:28.580 I was like, you need to do some research, dude.

00:51:31.180 You're just talking to this stuff all willy nilly.

00:51:32.840 Oh, yeah, that's, uh, yeah, if, if any, just PSA, I guess, um, if entities are talking to you, look them up, look them up.

00:51:48.740 Don't take their word for it.

00:51:50.080 Look them up.

00:51:51.160 Um, and, and also don't trust everything you hear in your head, you know?

00:51:56.360 So, uh, it's, it's one of those things where it's interesting, right?

00:52:00.200 So it sounds like what you guys are saying is that, uh, there's, there's a, it's like a double-sided coin with this guy.

00:52:06.480 It's like some of it, you're like, oh, it's just, does sound pretty.

00:52:09.480 And then those things here, it's like, I don't know about that.

00:52:13.000 Um, well, I didn't have, if I didn't have a good base, I would say, oh, this sounds great.

00:52:17.900 But because I do understand that, you know, go ahead, Tony, I'll tell you what I think after.

00:52:25.040 Yeah, it's, I mean, I, I don't nearly know what to think per se.

00:52:29.880 Um, I'd be interested in talking to the guy.

00:52:32.700 Um, if I don't, I don't, did you say he reached out to me or?

00:52:37.020 I think you guys are already set up.

00:52:38.420 Yeah.

00:52:38.640 So we spoiled it for you.

00:52:40.040 No, it's fine.

00:52:41.060 I'll forget.

00:52:41.560 Don't worry.

00:52:41.940 Um, so, uh, I forget what I was going to say, but no, I, I think that people need to just be careful with who they're talking to.

00:52:53.880 And, you know, it says the guy who prays to God, you can't even see him.

00:52:57.580 I know.

00:52:58.320 Um, but, uh, there's a lot of this new age movement stuff happening and going on right now.

00:53:04.700 So, and, uh, I was introduced to the new age through my show.

00:53:08.560 I didn't know what the new age was until I started talking to people who were talking about the new age.

00:53:13.280 And when I first remember, I remember when I first started hearing about it and they're talking about Jesus.

00:53:17.120 And I was like, oh, this is actually Jesus fluffy bunnies.

00:53:20.660 I love this.

00:53:21.600 This is nice.

00:53:22.840 And then I started learning more about it.

00:53:24.800 And I started talking to people who came out of the new age and the process of coming out of new age, uh, can be a very violent one, a very scary one, traumatizing one.

00:53:34.000 Um, and so with that in mind, when I hear entities talking to people, uh, and it's a double-sided coin, it's like some of it's pretty decent and some of it's kind of questionable.

00:53:48.460 If anything's kind of questionable, it's probably not from God.

00:53:51.980 And so, um, there's a, there's real manipulation tactics and just because it feels good to you doesn't mean it is good.

00:53:58.660 Um, and that's just a lie of the culture of the day.

00:54:01.180 You know, like, like we live in a society where what feels good to you, what's true to you.

00:54:05.840 It doesn't matter who nobody, like, like, like it shouldn't matter to you.

00:54:09.200 What feels good to you.

00:54:10.860 It's what is right.

00:54:12.040 What is wrong?

00:54:13.000 What is truth?

00:54:14.500 Not what is true to you.

00:54:15.980 What is actual truth?

00:54:17.580 And, um, I think that's why we have a lot of people running around confused these days is because we lit, we were raised in a culture that is just been, you know, just do what feels good to you.

00:54:29.460 No, no, that's how, that's how this, all, all this stuff starts.

00:54:32.800 And it's a perfect, we live in a perfect time to have this kind of stuff permeate throughout culture.

00:54:37.840 Uh, people are going to absolutely be communicating with these entities and, um, because they're already preconditioned to do what feels good.

00:54:46.640 It's such a layup.

00:54:47.720 It's such a layup.

00:54:49.100 Just start like, like these, these entities have been around you since day one.

00:54:53.440 And you're not the first human they've interacted with.

00:54:56.540 And they've been around you since day one.

00:54:58.440 They know what makes you tick.

00:54:59.900 They know what makes you feel good.

00:55:01.100 And they know exactly how to get you to do what they want you to do.

00:55:04.300 They're going to get you doing things that make you feel good.

00:55:06.380 And, and they may not always be anti-God and may not always be against God's will, but they're going to get you just by that simple formula, which has been just teed up with our culture of just do what makes you feel good.

00:55:22.400 So, um, yeah, I don't know.

00:55:25.780 Tony, can I interject for a second?

00:55:27.580 I want to, uh, shout out to Adriano bear in the chat, uh, or I'm sorry, optimistic bear.

00:55:32.180 Adriano says, uh, my mom is caught up in that Christ consciousness, mother, father, God stuff.

00:55:37.940 And it reminds me immediately.

00:55:39.920 I don't know if any of you guys have seen it.

00:55:41.700 Don't worry.

00:55:42.020 It's not a spoiler because you're going to waste your time if you do watch it, but there is a sort of a cult show on not a cult, a cult show on Netflix.

00:55:51.560 Um, and the story goes something about this woman who believes that she is, uh, mother God.

00:55:59.280 And based off of this premise, she starts to, uh, do all these charismatic videos online, a massive following.

00:56:06.740 She does a bunch of stuff with crystals.

00:56:08.500 She's drinking colloidal silver.

00:56:09.860 And next thing you know, uh, all of these new age folks from all over the country start to travel from afar and gather around her.

00:56:18.600 And then they start to live stream their everyday happenings and it's pretty uneventful, but because the new age is so appealing.

00:56:25.000 And I think what's appealing about it is the new age is structured in such a way to sell you the same lie that the serpent sold, uh, Adam and Eve in the garden or even the garden.

00:56:33.420 Uh, and that lie is you can be as God, you can ascend, you can unlock powers.

00:56:37.740 You can be more than what you are, um, through these new age, you know, techniques.

00:56:42.500 And so these people who are attracted to this idea, they come from afar, they gather around her and it turns out that she needs an incredible amount of alcohol to deal with the inundation of spirits that she's getting.

00:57:00.780 Now to the viewer, you go, this is a crazy person, but to a crazy person like myself, I go, no, no, no.

00:57:08.140 Spirits to contact spirits.

00:57:10.020 She's literally, yeah, she's literally in communication with spirits.

00:57:13.160 I do not doubt this at all, but much like the Marzinski angle, um, she is just, uh, falling apart over time.

00:57:23.220 She's turning blue because she's drinking colloidal silver, like at scale in mass, like so much colloidal silver and her body is like decomposing in real time because she's dying of alcohol related disease, you know, liver failure and things like that.

00:57:39.100 And these people, it's amazing the, the loop they get stuck in, they see her dying and they go, it's because her physical form cannot take the grand spirit that is within her, you know, mother, God spirit.

00:57:54.360 That's what they're saying is so immense that the expiring of the physical form is increased exponentially, uh, to anybody who is her avatar.

00:58:04.220 And so you're watching these people in the, in the real time.

00:58:07.520 But I think that is at the core of the new age movement is taking people who, and I don't know what to say about her, but, uh, she might've been, you know, sometimes these spirits, they do attack people who might be seeking a relationship with God.

00:58:24.620 Um, you know, I, I believe that the enemy doesn't attack people who are like not paying attention because you don't have to, they're there.

00:58:33.040 It doesn't even matter, but people who are engaged in spiritual warfare, but who are standing on the field, they recognize that they're in it, but they don't know where to go.

00:58:41.960 That is appealing to them.

00:58:44.580 And, and so, you know, she could have started off with the best of intentions, but ultimately she sold this false bill of goods that all people in the new age movement are being sold, which is this idea of spiritual ascension that you can be as God.

00:59:01.600 You can be like gods, like demigods, like, you know, whatever the idea, uh, is that they're selling these people.

00:59:08.040 You just need to, uh, go through these practices, these occulted practices and unlock various aspects.

00:59:15.440 And, and ultimately that is something that I've seen because after that conversation with Colin, we did receive several other stories from other people.

00:59:22.480 And there is always this common thread of, well, these entities want to unlock something in me to upgrade me, to allow me to, you know, access powers that are, uh, subdued.

00:59:35.760 And, and, you know, it's like, well, what's going on?

00:59:39.360 Do you have powers that need to be unlocked or are you being augmented by deceptive spirits?

00:59:48.360 Yeah.

00:59:48.780 I, I, uh, err on the side of caution and I stay away from that stuff.

00:59:52.240 You know, uh, that's just how it is.

00:59:54.440 Um, first of all, I didn't realize we were alive till just now when you said the comments, like, wait, comments.

00:59:59.400 And I clicked, I was like, Oh, there's, and I, as soon as I saw the comments, I was like, get away from it.

01:00:03.080 I don't want to read the comments. It's going to distract me. It'll distract me.

01:00:06.800 So I, I, I apologize to people who may be commenting and expect me to read a comment.

01:00:10.880 I, I, I can't read it or else I, Tony, Tony, if we treat our audience completely different than you, I could, I don't respect any of those people.

01:00:17.340 Don't look at them. Don't answer them. They don't deserve it. Talk to us.

01:00:20.800 Okay. I got you. I got you.

01:00:23.320 Um, yeah, I mean, I get sidetracked enough. I don't need to have the, the scroll of commenting.

01:00:28.080 What I wanted to say about, uh, both of your points there was that it, again, like I came up in this like weird political realm where it was called a postmodernism, right?

01:00:37.360 Where they would argue politically to no ends, uh, that there is no right or wrong.

01:00:43.600 And things are, you know, things are just gray areas, constant gray areas.

01:00:47.080 And the more you look into that, the more you realize like, no, no, no, no, it's pretty black and white.

01:00:51.460 And it, whether it be spiritually, uh, religiously in your personal life, I feel like I personally have been, I'm like, I'm just going to take a hard stance on something and, and stay that that's what I'm doing.

01:01:03.580 Because if you're wishy-washy, you're going to go nowhere.

01:01:06.240 So it's like, it's, this is either right or wrong.

01:01:08.700 And that's how, you know, the current day church ends up with, with the, you know, pastors in rainbow robes and God and, and, you know, Jewish tunnels, who knows what's going on.

01:01:17.720 At some point, somebody, somebody compromised.

01:01:20.860 And then you get down this hill of like, well, you can't even look back now.

01:01:24.620 Where, where did I start?

01:01:26.540 That's, that's the world today.

01:01:28.140 I, you know, listen, I mean, nobody wants to be wrong, right?

01:01:33.620 But if you believe you're right, then that, that, I mean, listen, I've just gotten grumpier as I've gotten older and I've just gotten to the point where I just don't care anymore.

01:01:46.480 I'm going to say what I believe and what I think.

01:01:50.900 And if, if I'm just going to be that grumpy old man in the room, you could say you're the most eloquent argument to me as to why I'm wrong and you're right.

01:01:59.940 If it's just doesn't line up with what I believe and just be like, no, I don't believe you.

01:02:04.200 And I don't agree with that.

01:02:05.140 You're wrong.

01:02:05.920 But I just, no, I don't care.

01:02:08.080 I don't care.

01:02:08.840 And I just got to that point now because I'm not the best person that's, I'm not good at debating.

01:02:15.840 I, I, I'm not, I just know I have lived experiences that tell me the, the, that, that define how I believe.

01:02:25.360 Um, and so I, I just kind of, I don't know, guys, I, I, we live in, we just live in a really weird world and it just kind of gets to the point where you have to have a backbone and you just have to, to stand up and for what's right and wrong and, and just call a spade a spade and, and not worry about who's going to like it and who doesn't like it.

01:02:45.800 You know, I, I just, um, I crossed this bridge, uh, about a year and a half, two years ago, I'd say I just got to the point where I consciously made a decision.

01:02:54.640 I was just like, you know what?

01:02:57.120 If me talking about God sinks this ship, then I'll just going to be poor.

01:03:01.180 I don't care.

01:03:02.400 And that's just how I feel.

01:03:03.740 And I say it a lot because that's how I, that's literally how I feel.

01:03:07.120 And I want everybody to know how I feel about it.

01:03:09.080 Like I, like, like if you think you saying to me, I'm never listening to your show again, cause you talk about God too much, that that's a threat to me.

01:03:17.640 It's not a threat to me.

01:03:18.580 What you're doing is you're telling me if you get enough people on your side, I get to go live peacefully with my family and not have to deal with the public ever again.

01:03:25.500 That sounds really nice at times.

01:03:27.660 That sounds real nice at times.

01:03:29.540 Did COVID do this to you?

01:03:30.480 Cause that, the same thing happened at the same time to me where I've decided no.

01:03:35.720 And now I could even justify it verbally better.

01:03:37.640 But like the idea of, uh, getting these upgrades or letting the vampire in, it's all about consent, right?

01:03:44.260 So when, when someone does want to argue or debate me, they're like, debate me.

01:03:47.740 And I say, debate is faking gay.

01:03:49.260 No.

01:03:50.080 And then I send them away or I block them or I just tell them straight up.

01:03:53.620 No, like, but I'm, I'm not nice about it.

01:03:55.580 Like Tony probably does.

01:03:56.400 It's so much nicer than I do quite mean, but go, go away.

01:04:00.520 I think what I think you're wrong.

01:04:03.060 So here's the thing.

01:04:04.000 So I don't know if we were live or if we were doing this off air.

01:04:07.640 But I said how, you know, I came up in podcasting in a different era.

01:04:12.480 So when I came up in podcasting, when I started out and stuff, you, you had to be conscious of what you're saying, because there's a very limited people who were actually even listening to podcasts to begin with.

01:04:25.680 And, um, you, you had to just kind of draw the lines as to where you wanted to cross and not cross.

01:04:31.480 Right.

01:04:32.640 And, and this, and I, and I kind of dug myself in a hole in a sense because, uh, people, what you just said, they will sometimes think that and think that they can say whatever they want to me in the sense that almost like I'm a pushover.

01:04:51.460 I'm one of the nastiest people you'll ever meet.

01:04:54.760 I am one of the nastiest people you will ever meet.

01:04:58.800 I just have a lot of self-discipline and anybody who wants to check that can just ask my wife, my parents, my siblings, people who know me.

01:05:10.380 Like, like nobody, nobody will dare to say the things to me in my face that people say to me online.

01:05:19.720 They think they can say certain things.

01:05:21.780 I'm telling you, I'm not a nice person.

01:05:25.420 So, uh, I, I just, um, when it comes to this stuff, um, I don't know.

01:05:35.320 I just, I go, I go about it a different way.

01:05:37.260 I don't know if it was COVID that did it for me.

01:05:40.840 Um, I think COVID certainly did do something to me.

01:05:44.660 I think the COVID thing combined with being dad is what did it for me.

01:05:49.440 Um, I don't, I don't know if I would be, uh, as staunch on certain things as far as like, I don't care what you kind of say kind of thing.

01:06:00.920 If it wasn't for the fact that I have the kids now, uh, I'm very aware that one day I'm going to die and I'm still going to be here at the same time.

01:06:08.940 Um, and I do not want to die one day and not, and, and, and have left something on the table that I could have done to better, possibly better my kid's future, you know?

01:06:23.460 And so when COVID happened, I think that really became a magnified thing in my life.

01:06:30.180 And, um, I, I just, I think I remember sitting at the house and, um, COVID was happening.

01:06:40.140 And I, I, it was December of 2019.

01:06:43.900 I saw things happening in China and I was still, I was going to work and I was telling the guys, I was like, Hey, there's something happening.

01:06:51.280 And I think we should, you know, be aware of what's going on.

01:06:54.620 And then they're like, Oh, you're a crazy conspiracy guy.

01:06:56.960 And, um, and then everything happened the next year in the beginning of the year and work, I was driving tractor trailer.

01:07:04.820 It slowed down to nothing.

01:07:06.560 Uh, there's nothing to deliver.

01:07:08.040 Nobody was shipping anything.

01:07:09.300 And so I was making, I was driving tractor trailer in New York city too.

01:07:13.900 Really?

01:07:14.340 And yeah, for the MTA though.

01:07:15.940 So I was, uh, what did I forget what they called me?

01:07:18.040 Like special work person or whatever.

01:07:19.360 I was allowed to work while everyone else at home, I got from Brooklyn to the city in 25 minutes, the tractor trailer full of, full of rails.

01:07:27.300 That takes an hour and a half.

01:07:28.760 It was wonderful, but yeah, it was bizarre.

01:07:30.400 It was like, I am legend stuff driving through.

01:07:33.300 Oh yeah.

01:07:34.340 Yeah.

01:07:34.740 Weird.

01:07:35.540 Very.

01:07:36.460 I, I, it was when everything shut down, I remember driving because I took a layoff, uh, because I was, I was podcasting, making money doing that.

01:07:45.240 So I figured some of these guys don't have a side gig.

01:07:48.100 A lot of them don't.

01:07:48.860 So let them work, you know, and drive around empty trailers.

01:07:52.440 Um, but, uh, when I was coming out of Philly and stuff, the same thing, like going back to my terminal, I mean, record times and it's just, everything was dead.

01:08:01.400 Very eerie.

01:08:02.820 Uh, I remember sitting at home in my layoff though.

01:08:05.560 And I don't remember who she was, but I think she was out of Chicago and she was like, uh, when somebody dies in a car accident and they had COVID in their system, it counts as a COVID death.

01:08:21.420 When that happened, it wasn't me being like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe I knew, I knew this was happening, but it was them for the first time I was able to look at and be like, Oh, you're actually saying it out loud now.

01:08:35.700 And that's when I was like, okay, all gloves are off.

01:08:41.140 Like I, like if you're outright doing this and you're saying it out loud, I no longer have to sit here and wonder if I'm just reading it wrong or if I'm the crazy one, you're saying it out loud now.

01:08:53.360 And now there are going to be guys like me who do have the balls to just push back.

01:09:00.900 Like, I don't, I don't care.

01:09:02.640 Like, I don't care.

01:09:03.640 Like I, I tell my wife probably once a month, one day I'm going to be in jail.

01:09:08.000 They're going to put me in jail one day.

01:09:09.620 It's just going to happen.

01:09:10.520 It's, it's, it's getting to that point.

01:09:11.840 Now it's going to get to the point where whether it's something that I've said in the past or I checked the wrong box on something and they're going to put me in jail for it and I'm okay with it, but I'm not okay.

01:09:22.940 I'm not, I'm not okay with, with staying outside jail because I'm a coward and I have to look at my son in the eyes, trying to raise him as a man in this world, knowing that his dad's a coward.

01:09:32.340 Tony, those people are going to be the first ones put up against the wall.

01:09:35.260 The ones that knew better, but follow the narrative.

01:09:37.720 If you look historically at like, uh, communist China, when they use the red shirts, I mean, they use the, they use the brown shirts to kind of like, uh, funnel the people that were dissidents, they were telling on them, right?

01:09:48.480 The first ones, when it came to like, we're going to call half the population, they took those idiots and then they got the extremists, but it was a little harder to get the extremists because we already kind of knew what you were doing.

01:09:58.740 So we're like, you know, I bought 10 acres in Florida.

01:10:01.060 I, I boogied out of New York after they told me we might put you in, uh, camps.

01:10:05.300 If there was some kind of law floated and I was like, yeah, no, put my, put my house for sale.

01:10:09.660 My wife was like, what the hell did you do?

01:10:10.940 I said, yeah, no, I, it's on Zillow.

01:10:13.700 And when somebody buys it, we're out.

01:10:15.620 And she was like, that's crazy.

01:10:16.720 I was like, sit down for a second.

01:10:18.380 Let me, let me show you some news articles, what they're saying out in the open.

01:10:22.740 Right.

01:10:23.480 And politically that drove me crazy.

01:10:25.200 Cause I'm like, oh my God, there has to be a solution.

01:10:27.100 Maybe the libertarian party, maybe the Republican is, it's like, nah, no, dude, it's all Nephilim shit, man.

01:10:32.280 Yeah.

01:10:32.640 Because something is coming.

01:10:34.020 That's what we've hit the part of the story where this is what's going to happen.

01:10:37.240 And there's no stopping it.

01:10:38.160 I had the exact same experience and I was, I was completely blessed that my wife, when she met me, knew I was out of my mind, but couldn't necessarily like debate me.

01:10:49.260 You know, she was like, well, I don't know.

01:10:50.520 Dude's got some good points.

01:10:51.560 And that was, you know, 16 years ago.

01:10:54.240 And so when this started happening, I was like, no, don't, we're not taking any shots.

01:10:58.540 No, no, no.

01:10:59.000 We're not doing any of that.

01:11:00.440 And then ultimately when things got real crazy, it was like, yeah, let's go, let's leave New Jersey because New Jersey is kind of, unfortunately, New Jersey and New York,

01:11:08.160 they're going to be some of the first places that get hit the hardest when it comes to these things.

01:11:11.580 And also you don't want to be in a, in a crowded, uh, cityscape when, when shit really hits the fan.

01:11:17.040 But, you know, I, I, I agree with that comment, right?

01:11:20.440 It was a paradigm shift.

01:11:22.120 And I think that was like, we were talking with Mark Clare the other day about, uh, portals, but not necessarily the portals that you're talking about.

01:11:28.760 I just called it a portal because it's like, it's like a lateral portal.

01:11:31.460 Right.

01:11:31.860 So I'm here, a political.

01:11:33.560 And then the next thing I'm like, let me look into this debate with Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

01:11:38.180 That must be great.

01:11:38.700 And then all of a sudden you're kind of like stepping through these portals laterally.

01:11:41.860 COVID was a big one.

01:11:43.340 That one, a lot of people step through.

01:11:45.080 You can't step back from that.

01:11:46.820 Once you open your eyes and then there's so many more all the way to.

01:11:50.460 Oh, it's insane that some people never stepped through.

01:11:52.980 They're still there.

01:11:53.920 They're still wearing their masks.

01:11:55.360 I mean, I, I, I see it.

01:11:57.120 I saw it in Florida yesterday in Walmart and I'm going, what, what's going on?

01:12:01.600 I thought something was happening again.

01:12:03.140 I was like, am I just not paying attention to the times?

01:12:05.500 Like, why are there people in Walmart with masks?

01:12:07.820 There's a lady that I know on Facebook.

01:12:09.580 I'm not going to say her name, but she's boosted up to the max, had like three, uh, miscarriages.

01:12:16.940 Doesn't know why.

01:12:18.380 And I'm just like, scroll my feed.

01:12:20.120 I stopped.

01:12:20.580 I even stopped posting to Facebook.

01:12:21.980 I was like, you guys don't deserve this.

01:12:23.100 This is Pearl to like swine to Pearl, Pearl to swines.

01:12:25.760 Why would I even talk to you?

01:12:26.820 I told you, you didn't listen.

01:12:28.600 I'm out.

01:12:29.460 We're done.

01:12:29.960 Now I have to focus on like, how do I keep my family going when things get really stupid?

01:12:36.400 And you know, I'm trying my best, but.

01:12:39.400 And that's the thing.

01:12:40.260 Like we're in new territory that our, our families, our parents, our grandparents,

01:12:46.400 I, as far as I can think, haven't had a cross, like a government that's outright in America,

01:12:50.900 outright against you.

01:12:52.520 And how do you react to that?

01:12:54.300 You know, we all reacted the same way.

01:12:56.420 We all got out and ran.

01:12:57.740 I did the same thing.

01:12:58.760 I mean, I'm the guest here, so I don't know if your audience knows.

01:13:01.240 I lived in Philadelphia and I said to all my family, I said, this is going to get to a

01:13:05.860 point where we're leaving.

01:13:07.660 And then it got to that point where actually it got to the point where everybody was like,

01:13:10.860 oh, things are opening up again.

01:13:12.100 This is nice.

01:13:12.680 I'm like, that's a bad sign.

01:13:14.360 Actually, we're out.

01:13:17.680 And we, I put the house up for sale and literally it was Christmas day, the evening of Christmas

01:13:24.740 day.

01:13:26.080 Everybody went home and I looked at my wife.

01:13:28.400 I said, you ready to move to Tennessee?

01:13:29.520 She said, yep.

01:13:30.100 And by April, we were in Tennessee and we live in East Tennessee and I don't have 10 acres,

01:13:37.700 but I'm aspiring to have 10 acres one day.

01:13:40.500 And I have a farm, a little tiny farm and pigs and chickens and things like that.

01:13:45.280 But I'm doing what I can to, and I don't think anybody's ever totally prepared for that,

01:13:51.200 the end of the world situation.

01:13:54.280 But we're trying and we're making friends and networking and hopefully, God willing, tomorrow

01:14:01.180 I'll have time to get to a guy's house over here who he's processing sheeps.

01:14:04.980 I'm going to learn how to process sheeps.

01:14:06.840 And then in March, I'm processing my pigs.

01:14:10.020 I'm going to learn how to process pigs.

01:14:11.660 I want to learn how to do this stuff and take care of myself and my family.

01:14:14.480 The key is you got to start with the anus.

01:14:17.080 You'll learn.

01:14:20.000 You know, I think that this is a perfect segue into sort of the meat of what I want to talk

01:14:27.780 about.

01:14:28.000 I don't know how much longer we have you, Tony, so feel free to tell us to kick rocks.

01:14:32.760 But, you know, we're talking about preparedness.

01:14:35.380 We're talking about making these shifts to do what we need to for our families.

01:14:40.120 And, you know, you alluded there that you don't know if anybody's ever

01:14:44.360 really prepared.

01:14:45.500 But if you're of the same mind as us, you're looking at something that you need to be prepared

01:14:53.020 for that's like several steps down the road.

01:14:55.360 You know, whether it's societal collapse or whatever, that's one thing.

01:14:58.340 But, I mean, fans of the show know how strange we get.

01:15:03.000 I mean, literally, it's Nephilim Death Squad.

01:15:05.040 And we're of the contention that at some point, these things are going to become a reality.

01:15:09.260 Now, we were sort of, yes, and we were sort of faced with that for this brief moment with

01:15:14.700 the Miami situation.

01:15:15.900 Although, I'm not too sure exactly what that is.

01:15:18.380 I think the most significant thing to come out of the Miami situation.

01:15:21.320 I've got some information about that that I'm sure Tony hasn't heard because we only

01:15:25.180 said it here.

01:15:26.080 My cousin works in South Florida.

01:15:27.440 He knows people that do work in that area.

01:15:30.440 He's a firefighter.

01:15:31.260 And one of the things that you notice right away, I was in fire protection and management.

01:15:35.700 So, I noticed like I walk into a room, I'm looking for all the exits and I notice all

01:15:38.880 the codes because I'm an idiot.

01:15:40.140 But as you know, when you're in professions like this, you notice weird things.

01:15:44.060 And he says, huh, 100 cop cars, not one emergency ambulance, not one firefighter.

01:15:50.700 These things show up in tandem every single time.

01:15:53.360 If there's an incident, somebody probably got hurt.

01:15:55.660 They might need fire every single time.

01:15:58.100 When you look at the video, that's not the case.

01:16:00.500 So, I said, well, what do you make of that?

01:16:02.540 And he's like, you know, to me, he said it looked like a, what did he say?

01:16:06.120 He said it looked like a, like an operation.

01:16:08.540 And it kind of did.

01:16:09.360 It looked like a closed, like whatever's going on there.

01:16:11.700 That's why we don't have video.

01:16:12.920 That's why, you know, not, I mean, you have on the ground testimony, but most of the video

01:16:16.760 is from people that are living in the apartments.

01:16:19.540 Yeah.

01:16:20.180 Nobody knows.

01:16:20.780 So, this was shut off.

01:16:22.500 What happened there?

01:16:23.840 I'm not saying it's not like, you know, actual entities or whatever, but something happened.

01:16:29.000 They shut it off.

01:16:29.860 Something happened in that mall.

01:16:31.920 Maybe it was a portal that opened up.

01:16:33.360 Maybe they knew, like they can tell, like there's some kind of frequencies or vibrations

01:16:36.740 are like, yo, shut it down, get here and close down the system.

01:16:40.760 Cause we don't know what, what's coming through.

01:16:42.660 Something happened there.

01:16:43.900 But yeah, it, our government knew about it and our government does know about this stuff.

01:16:48.980 That's another like mass drop where they're like, Chuck Schumer is just like, should we

01:16:52.460 tell them about the aliens yet?

01:16:54.060 It was like, what?

01:16:55.740 Bro.

01:16:55.980 Are we talking about taxes?

01:16:57.520 And then all of a sudden they're doing the kind of heart.

01:16:58.860 No, no, no, don't talk about that.

01:17:01.080 And what did we just have?

01:17:01.960 Tucker Carlson and Roseanne are on TV talking about the Nephilim.

01:17:06.160 You know, then Tucker's on stage at whatever that event is.

01:17:09.000 And he's talking about the dark spiritual aspect of these, uh, uh, alien entities.

01:17:13.380 And it's like, we're, we're moving towards, you want to talk about a paradigm shift, right?

01:17:16.300 And the way of COVID was one, get ready to have the shit jarred out of you.

01:17:20.420 We're going through another portal guys, and it's going to shake up a lot of people on,

01:17:24.700 you know, and a lot of us will be sitting on the sidelines going, I told you so.

01:17:27.200 And I don't know what good that's really going to do, but this all leads to something,

01:17:32.060 in my opinion, very physical.

01:17:34.180 And Tony, I know you've had interactions with, uh, guests who share their testimonies on your

01:17:38.780 show who, um, very much aligned with the story that we told earlier about Colin.

01:17:42.620 And like I said, we've got a few more stories like that and all these things kind of line

01:17:46.520 up, right?

01:17:46.980 It seems like someone, or maybe not just one entity, but within the spiritual realm, there

01:17:52.820 is a recruitment process happening.

01:17:54.900 Oh yeah.

01:17:55.060 And this recruitment process is for an impending war.

01:17:57.920 And there are two definitive sides, but it does seem like, uh, from what we've learned

01:18:03.080 that there might be some dissenting sides within the, the darker aspect of things.

01:18:07.160 Uh, we actually had it explained to us in a really interesting way.

01:18:09.740 Of course.

01:18:10.120 Yeah.

01:18:10.280 It's chaos.

01:18:10.880 33% of the angels followed Lucifer from, from heaven in this rebellion.

01:18:15.580 And then they get down and God's like, can't come back.

01:18:18.640 How about like it to think that these angels don't have like a brain of their own or these

01:18:22.640 fallen to be like, this guy lied to us.

01:18:24.840 Screw this guy.

01:18:25.360 I'm doing my own thing.

01:18:26.440 Maybe some try to get back.

01:18:27.400 Like as the book says, you try to get back in the good graces, but it's not, it's not

01:18:31.560 one side.

01:18:32.160 Like Scott Horton, I always reference him, the great Scott Horton.

01:18:34.780 He wrote a book on the war in Afghanistan.

01:18:37.420 It's a 20 year war.

01:18:38.300 That's it.

01:18:38.980 20 years on our side and 50.

01:18:40.760 If you go back to the Russians and the players in this war and the motives and everything going

01:18:46.240 on, it's endless.

01:18:47.420 There's he's up to the third compendium of this book now where I'm just, I don't even

01:18:50.620 care anymore.

01:18:51.040 Cause it's like you who can keep track.

01:18:53.000 This spiritual war has been going on since before I depend since, but probably before Adam,

01:18:58.440 I'm not sure where to put where they fell.

01:19:00.220 Did they fall before Adam?

01:19:02.320 Were there people before you think so?

01:19:04.780 Yeah.

01:19:05.060 I think they fell before Adam.

01:19:06.720 I don't know if there was people before, but there, there might've been, there might've

01:19:11.400 been another, I don't know.

01:19:14.700 Like, like that's, that's a Joel Thomas territory for me.

01:19:18.320 Like I'll call my buddy Joel and I'll be like, yo bro, like break this down for me.

01:19:21.980 Cause my brain hurts.

01:19:23.640 Um, but no, I mean, yeah, I, I, uh, I think that there's definitely, there was a fall before

01:19:32.240 Adam, I believe.

01:19:33.740 Um, and yeah, I think that these, they're rebellious in nature.

01:19:40.060 Why would they ever like, why would they like, yeah, it's like, it's like, it's like you take,

01:19:47.160 um, you take, uh, all right, let's take, uh, I don't know why I'm thinking like thinking

01:19:54.560 about this like this and I don't know if this is going to make sense, but you go to like

01:19:58.860 all the federal prisons and you take the number one Hooper in every federal prison and you

01:20:06.380 put them on the same team and you tell me they're all going to submit to one guy as the

01:20:10.760 best player on the team.

01:20:11.900 Dude, it's libertarianism.

01:20:13.440 You take, so libertarians are by default, don't trust the government, right?

01:20:18.600 Then you take a hundred thousand of them.

01:20:20.280 I've been to these meetings, all of them autistic, hilarious, but they all are so individualistic

01:20:25.540 that they cannot agree and move in a direction.

01:20:28.340 So you can't meaningfully even oppose like the left or the right, which they're trying to

01:20:32.960 do.

01:20:33.140 It's hilarious, but that's yeah.

01:20:34.500 And in a sense, it's kind of what these fallen are, right?

01:20:36.540 They're like, they're so individualistic.

01:20:39.300 They're probably, yeah, they're like literal pirates.

01:20:40.580 This, this spiritual battle, like that's why the thing with Colin and the thing with

01:20:45.020 the guy that you mentioned, they're being recruited by ball, by Anu, by different entities, all

01:20:50.560 moving in a different direction.

01:20:52.760 And like, what does this look like when it manifests itself physically?

01:20:56.900 Cause there's going to be a final battle, right?

01:20:59.320 Yeah.

01:20:59.980 I, I, I don't know what it's going to look like.

01:21:03.020 I don't think any of us know what it's going to look like.

01:21:05.120 Uh, but yeah, I mean the, these beings, these entities are recruiting people and people it's

01:21:14.780 often children often, uh, people that are teenagers, impressionable minds.

01:21:22.640 Uh, you think back when you're a kid, how impressionable you were, how you felt like you

01:21:26.720 were invincible, that you were never going to be 18.

01:21:29.460 You were never going to be 21.

01:21:30.640 You were never gonna get married.

01:21:31.680 And man, I can't wait to have sex for the first time.

01:21:34.200 When is that going to happen?

01:21:35.180 Like everything was just forever away.

01:21:36.580 Right.

01:21:37.060 And so you take that kind of energy and you manipulate it.

01:21:41.240 And so, uh, that's my experience, not every time, but a lot of times it was people who were

01:21:50.620 children who were taken into a realm, uh, often to start in the dream state.

01:21:57.400 And, and it was one of those things where it was, it was so vivid.

01:22:03.600 It felt more real than what this, this feels.

01:22:07.420 And, um, and there, and an entity appears to them and, and, uh, there's a lot of similarities

01:22:13.440 in my side of things where, um, people not every time, but I've heard it enough.

01:22:19.800 The idea of like walking through a tunnel or a cave system, uh, that is a common thing.

01:22:26.780 Uh, but an entity often dressed in black, not always, but often dressed in black will

01:22:32.440 be there and, uh, and basically recruiting you saying, I want you to work for me and you

01:22:37.800 can have this, that, and the other, uh, if you accept.

01:22:40.940 And if you do not accept, you just go back to where you came from kind of thing.

01:22:45.380 But if you do accept, that's where the ride begins.

01:22:48.600 And, um, I, I, there was a guy who, um, there's a guy that I mentioned, you know, you guys have

01:22:57.860 heard me mention, um, that I would love to talk with one day.

01:23:03.340 Yeah.

01:23:04.640 Ron.

01:23:05.400 Ron.

01:23:06.120 Great name.

01:23:06.920 Yeah.

01:23:07.880 Um, I, I don't know if it's ever going to happen.

01:23:12.420 I know where he lives.

01:23:13.880 I I've thought about, I I I've hit him up on social media.

01:23:17.600 I know him.

01:23:18.420 I, I, he knows me.

01:23:19.500 I know him kind of thing.

01:23:20.300 He just won't.

01:23:20.880 And down on his front lawn with a boom box and just.

01:23:23.500 Yeah.

01:23:23.720 I guess I leave it this way.

01:23:25.000 I don't, I know the city he lives.

01:23:26.260 I don't know what his address.

01:23:27.440 Um, if you can't do it, man, Colin, I'm telling you, Colin, the same thing.

01:23:31.240 I was like, let's talk, come on my show when it was just the top lobster show.

01:23:34.240 And I had, I don't even think I'd met David and he was like, they're telling me not to.

01:23:38.780 They're saying, don't speak.

01:23:39.860 And for some reason he just says, he's like, now's the time spoke with us.

01:23:44.040 And actually now I'm texting.

01:23:45.760 I'm like, Hey, how's everything going?

01:23:47.180 He's, he's experiencing like paranormal things, but like a poltergeist stuff, like lights stuff

01:23:53.500 moving over small, like weird things like that.

01:23:56.520 And I'm like, I mean, that's not good, dude.

01:23:58.840 So it's yeah.

01:24:00.280 If they can't, they can't literally is what I'm getting from it.

01:24:05.440 Like whatever they're in.

01:24:06.600 That's the same thing though, that Jerry Marzinski said, Jerry Marzinski said, uh, that the voices

01:24:12.300 did not like it when you address them or talk to them or ask the, the victim about what are

01:24:18.920 the voices saying?

01:24:19.800 And the victim would say, they don't want me to even talk about this.

01:24:23.400 And then over time, eventually he had an experience where it was like, Hey, they want to talk to

01:24:27.780 you.

01:24:28.500 That experience was crazy.

01:24:29.800 So I, I, um, when you mentioned Jerry, I pulled his website up just so I can remember to reach

01:24:35.420 out to him again because I, I had this habit where I'll pull people up on, on the browser

01:24:40.560 while they're talking on an interview, just so I remember to do it later.

01:24:43.360 And then that tab stays open on the computer for like a month.

01:24:46.400 And then it winds up getting closed for some reason.

01:24:48.420 And I forget.

01:24:49.540 Um, so hopefully I can, I can email them, but, uh, there's like two or three other people

01:24:54.180 I'm supposed to be emailing the last few days.

01:24:55.600 I haven't done it yet, but, uh, his story, his story with, uh, with that specific and

01:25:03.200 man, he had the guy, the schizophrenic dude sit down and read like, same thing we're confronted

01:25:08.220 with.

01:25:08.580 Now there's, there's two of you in there.

01:25:10.960 He had him read a passage about possibly these voices are something completely different.

01:25:15.360 And the guy read it, said blanked out.

01:25:17.980 There was like some kind of actual power paranormal stuff.

01:25:20.640 Like, uh, he described it as like a static electric sound from the back of his ear that

01:25:25.400 traveled across the walls.

01:25:26.940 He followed it into a garbage can.

01:25:28.820 Turns out nothing in there.

01:25:30.500 The guy snaps out of his like zombie-ness looks at him and just goes, I got to go.

01:25:34.900 And he says, you should go, please go.

01:25:37.940 So the guy leaves, comes back a couple of months later or something when he finally had the

01:25:42.000 nerve to call him back in his office.

01:25:43.200 And he was like, come in.

01:25:44.300 He said, the guy looks better.

01:25:45.360 He took his advice.

01:25:46.440 He's, he's now addressing the entities as something, not himself.

01:25:50.200 And he goes, oh, wow.

01:25:51.020 Interesting.

01:25:51.780 And he recaps what happened.

01:25:52.860 He says, uh, did you, uh, when you were here, did you hear that like electric buzzing sound

01:25:58.260 going across the room?

01:25:59.560 And he goes, yeah, you heard that?

01:26:01.860 And he goes, yeah.

01:26:03.100 Well, what the hell was it?

01:26:04.420 And the guy says, those are the voices.

01:26:06.580 I didn't like, usually you're not supposed to hear that.

01:26:09.380 So now he's like, huh, that's crazy.

01:26:12.160 What did they say?

01:26:13.640 And the guy looks him right in the eyes and he says, they said to go out of here, get a

01:26:18.360 shank and stick it in your guts.

01:26:20.540 And Jerry just like, why didn't you do it?

01:26:23.960 And he said, I couldn't find one and no one would give it to me.

01:26:27.720 That was it.

01:26:28.940 Yeah.

01:26:29.380 So you're interfering with their way of life.

01:26:31.360 There's another story he tells where they said, like, uh, the entities want to talk to

01:26:35.180 you.

01:26:35.280 And they said, you have no right to interfere with our way of life because he was in a

01:26:40.120 mental hospital.

01:26:41.140 Yeah.

01:26:41.280 No, right.

01:26:42.260 Right.

01:26:42.500 That idea of like powers and principalities.

01:26:44.380 Cause you have no right to interfere with our way of life.

01:26:47.560 Yeah.

01:26:47.720 There are laws.

01:26:48.560 There's rules to this stuff.

01:26:49.840 Like we don't know them, but they know the rules inherently.

01:26:52.640 One of them is, is definitely consent.

01:26:54.760 The other ones.

01:26:55.960 Oh yeah.

01:26:56.360 Consent's a big one, a big one.

01:26:58.320 Uh, but yeah, there, there's rules of engagement for sure.

01:27:01.660 Uh, and, and I don't know if everybody grasps that at all times.

01:27:07.640 Um, that's really interesting.

01:27:09.500 That's really interesting that he, that he heard that and that that's what the whole,

01:27:13.920 the whole thing.

01:27:16.320 Oh man.

01:27:16.960 Well, it's interesting because it's like, they allowed him, they, it started off with

01:27:20.700 like, they want to talk to you.

01:27:23.180 And then it ends with him actually hearing this crackling electric sound.

01:27:27.540 And it's like, it's a matter of whether or not you hear that.

01:27:30.960 It manifests itself as almost, he described it as an electric crackling sound.

01:27:35.140 So electricity, frequency, energy, things that Tesla was messing with.

01:27:39.160 You know, it's like, there's a lot, all that stuff is intermingled, especially the frequency.

01:27:43.440 I'm a guitarist here.

01:27:44.280 So I've been like, I drive you down the rabbit hole with what I think about frequency and,

01:27:48.880 and, and all that kind of stuff like that.

01:27:51.440 But that part is the most interesting.

01:27:53.680 And the part that he couldn't perceive it as words, but the guy was like ready to stab

01:27:57.860 him in the guts because that crackling sounded to him so convincing, convincing enough to

01:28:02.780 go out there and do that, go out and then come back.

01:28:05.760 It's that, that bugs me out, man.

01:28:09.040 This is making me think about this one guy I was in communication with.

01:28:13.520 He, uh, somehow found out what I was doing and he contacted me and said that he had a friend

01:28:23.220 who he grew up with, who was just like Ron.

01:28:28.300 And so we started, uh, I text him and I, and we scheduled a time for me to call him just to talk

01:28:36.160 on the phone.

01:28:36.820 And usually I don't talk to anybody without recording.

01:28:39.480 If it's not recorded, we're not talking on the phone.

01:28:41.900 We're not just chit chatting.

01:28:43.000 One, I don't have time.

01:28:44.140 And two, that's valuable information.

01:28:46.060 The world will never be able to hear and I will forget.

01:28:48.440 So I have to be able to record just for my own brain.

01:28:52.100 Um, but with this guy, I was like, I just, I just want to talk to him.

01:28:58.660 And he was at work.

01:29:00.860 It was like nine o'clock at night when I called him.

01:29:03.780 He, I, I hear him get off the floor.

01:29:06.420 It was like a machine shop or something.

01:29:09.000 And literally within like, I don't know, 30 seconds to a minute of this phone call,

01:29:16.140 this man I've never met before my entire life is just sobbing on the phone.

01:29:22.100 To the point of like, you know how like kids, when they cry so hysterically, they hiccup.

01:29:25.400 They're like, like that, that's what he was doing on the phone with me.

01:29:29.840 And it, it, all I did was start talking about the stuff, asking him, you know, what do you

01:29:35.220 know?

01:29:35.480 What, what, what's what?

01:29:36.500 And he started talking and all of a sudden just started coming out and he started crying

01:29:39.400 and he's like, I've never told my wife any of this.

01:29:41.780 And I'm, I'm scared that if I tell her she's going to leave me and you know, this, that,

01:29:45.940 and the other.

01:29:46.280 And like, he's just, it was so, it was such a burden on him.

01:29:49.920 Um, but what I was able to get out of him was, uh, that a lot of people died.

01:29:56.840 Uh, all the people that he was involved with through this stuff are dead for the most part.

01:30:03.480 His friend is dead.

01:30:05.480 Uh, and I, I think, I feel like he, he felt a sense of responsibility towards, even though

01:30:13.320 it seemed like he was a bystander in it.

01:30:14.940 He's even said so, but, uh, I, I don't know if that was accurate or not.

01:30:19.960 I, I, you know, sometimes people say, oh, I was just a bystander when they actually were

01:30:23.760 very much participating.

01:30:25.940 Um, but he was deeply affected by it.

01:30:29.900 And I told him, I was like, listen, man, like, I'm not going to tell you what to do with

01:30:33.500 telling your wife and stuff.

01:30:35.700 That's on you to tell your wife.

01:30:37.760 I said, I understand your hesitation, but I also understand as somebody who has had some

01:30:42.320 secrets from my wife, uh, I could tell you that when you do come forward and you, and

01:30:51.200 you show your wife your dirty laundry and she chooses to love you through it, like that, that

01:30:57.720 relationship goes to a level that you never could have imagined.

01:31:01.540 And, um, I said, I'm not going to tell you to do that because if she doesn't love you through

01:31:06.180 it, I don't want to be responsible for it.

01:31:07.820 But, uh, I said to him, there is a lot of benefit to being vulnerable with the person

01:31:13.040 you're married to.

01:31:14.260 Um, and so him and I were trying to schedule a time to record, uh, a conversation for the

01:31:21.800 show and, you know, he canceled once, canceled twice, whatever.

01:31:26.000 And the day that we were supposed to record, he, he texts me a long text message.

01:31:30.500 And it basically was just like, since I've been talking to you, really bad things have

01:31:34.980 been happening and, uh, I will not record with you.

01:31:39.780 I do not want to talk to you.

01:31:41.200 I'm deleting your number and I want you to delete my number.

01:31:45.120 Now I didn't delete his number because I didn't consent to that.

01:31:48.800 Uh, but, um, I'm sure he deleted mine and I haven't heard from him since.

01:31:55.520 Uh, I probably will text him again one day, but, um, I don't know what happened, but for

01:32:01.320 him, something happened, something kicked up through talking with me.

01:32:06.540 And I, I do believe that there is a realm that is starting to, I'm noticing, maybe they've

01:32:14.360 been doing it for a while, but I'm starting to notice that, um, it's like, I feel like

01:32:19.600 I've been in a very dark room and all of a sudden the entities in that room are starting

01:32:23.620 to see me and they're starting to turn their head and look at me.

01:32:27.080 Um, and I, I don't know if that's because I'm hitting the right buttons or if I just

01:32:31.860 been here long enough, they're finally getting around to my corner.

01:32:34.660 Um, but I'm noticing that certainly, in fact, it just happened today.

01:32:39.160 I can't get into great detail because it's actually part of my rebranding, uh, that I'm

01:32:44.020 doing with, for my show.

01:32:44.860 I'm actually coming, I'm actually coming out with a new logo for my show and new website

01:32:48.460 and stuff.

01:32:48.740 So as members, you'll have a new website.

01:32:50.080 Uh, but, uh, um, it's, it's a process and I'm hoping it all works out.

01:32:55.360 Okay.

01:32:55.620 But, um, basically my logo was left at the last property I investigated and my logo is

01:33:04.000 not public right now.

01:33:04.720 My new logo is not public right now.

01:33:07.180 And, um, and I, I, I talked to my guy, uh, Ward, who is, uh, my cameraman and he's like

01:33:14.960 the team chaplain, like he, like he's the theologian of the team and everything.

01:33:19.520 And I'm like, you know, I said, do you think it actually means anything?

01:33:23.140 He's like, at this point, I think it does.

01:33:24.800 He's like, I think, I think, um, it's getting to the point now where people are, these, these

01:33:29.580 things are seeing us, they're seeing what we're doing.

01:33:31.620 Cause we're being overt now about it.

01:33:33.200 Can you explain what you mean left there?

01:33:35.780 Like a sticker?

01:33:36.700 What is it?

01:33:37.400 What do you mean?

01:33:37.780 No, it, uh, yeah, I think I, I, so left a mark on somebody's house.

01:33:45.680 Of your logo.

01:33:47.320 Yeah.

01:33:48.360 Yeah.

01:33:48.580 That's, that's a lot bigger of a deal than you printed it out on paper and forgot it.

01:33:53.000 Yeah.

01:33:53.700 Um, it's like, I was like, no big deal.

01:33:55.740 Like people forget.

01:33:56.960 Yeah.

01:33:58.420 Yeah.

01:33:58.860 Um, yeah.

01:34:00.800 And it just, it was the last property that we went to, uh, private property that we went

01:34:05.420 to.

01:34:06.160 Um, so, uh, yeah, I, I think, but we, but we're, we're becoming very overt.

01:34:13.560 So we, we started out with, uh, exhibition dog man, the first documentary, and that was

01:34:18.620 the crew guys just getting together, not knowing what we had kind of thing.

01:34:22.340 And every time we get together to do something, we, we hammer out more details.

01:34:26.360 How do we want this to be?

01:34:27.460 How do we, how do we do this?

01:34:29.620 Um, and the last, the last time we, we did this, uh, we were very, like very overt and

01:34:36.360 intentional with prayer.

01:34:38.100 And we are now at the point where we're like, okay, this is spiritual warfare.

01:34:44.120 So bring it.

01:34:45.840 And, um, that's how we open up our investigations.

01:34:49.620 This is how we, uh, we did before too, but now we actually have intentional prayer in the

01:34:55.780 sense that it's not like, all right, Tone, uh, your team leader, let's do a prayer.

01:34:59.540 Okay.

01:35:00.160 And I can do that.

01:35:01.120 Um, Ward had written a prayer and it was a very thought out prayer.

01:35:08.100 Prayer with every word accounted for.

01:35:11.060 And he read the prayer.

01:35:13.000 Um, and I think, I think we're starting to do things in my mind.

01:35:18.920 Right.

01:35:19.880 And I think that's why the heads are starting to turn in the other realm.

01:35:24.620 And, um, I'm here for it.

01:35:27.420 I'm here for it.

01:35:28.680 That reminds me, the, the Orthodox church, uh, they, they told me that, uh, when you get

01:35:34.160 baptized, one of the prayers that they do say is pointed and it's written and it's

01:35:38.080 intentional, but part of that prayer is an exorcism.

01:35:41.440 So, and I'm like, that makes a lot of sense, right?

01:35:43.900 If you're going to like be entering into this new portal, into this new realm, a new person,

01:35:47.380 you might want to get that old stuff out.

01:35:49.140 But it, for the Pentecostal church I came from, it's, that's not really a thing.

01:35:54.040 So, yeah.

01:35:55.080 What's really interesting, Tony, I'm sure this is not a foreign thing to you.

01:35:59.240 And I got it.

01:35:59.680 The audience probably hasn't heard this.

01:36:01.060 So I'm going to do a little story time real quick.

01:36:03.160 Um, you're probably very familiar with this.

01:36:05.620 People reach out to you.

01:36:06.680 They have experiences.

01:36:07.640 Suddenly they get dialed up to 10 after they reach out to you, right?

01:36:10.420 This, you would probably say at this point is a normal occurrence.

01:36:13.620 Yeah.

01:36:14.920 So I emailed you once and, um, I, I haven't even told top this actually.

01:36:21.820 Um, I might've shared a bit of the story, but I never told him about the correlation.

01:36:25.460 So it was probably the, the night that I emailed you, if it wasn't the night, it was within

01:36:32.500 a day, but it was after I emailed you to share some stories.

01:36:37.660 And one night I take my dog out for a walk and it's dusk and, um, she's a little puppy

01:36:45.980 and I'm, I'm walking her down the street.

01:36:47.980 And suddenly I hear the neighbors, they're like arguing in a really grotesque way.

01:36:53.040 They're screaming at one another and you can hear this couple like echoing through the

01:36:57.900 streets.

01:36:58.500 It's like mortifying.

01:36:59.620 I don't like being around when people are embarrassing themselves.

01:37:02.460 So unfortunately the puppy like is so jostled by this.

01:37:06.540 She just plants it and sits down and it's like right in front of their house across the

01:37:10.900 street, but in front of their house.

01:37:11.960 So I'm like trying to get her to move and she doesn't want to go and kind of be a nosy

01:37:16.820 at this point too.

01:37:17.880 And I can kind of hear that the wife has forgotten something and the husband is,

01:37:23.040 unbelievably angry about it.

01:37:24.680 And they're calling each other every name under the sun and they have to get in the

01:37:28.660 car and retrace their steps to find whatever it is.

01:37:30.920 She forgot.

01:37:31.520 So they leave in a hurry and they leave everything on.

01:37:37.220 Like I can see their house, the sun's going down, but it's not fully dark, but all the

01:37:41.340 lights from their house are lighting up the, uh, the street.

01:37:44.160 And as they're leaving and I'm like trying to act like I didn't see them, there's like

01:37:48.240 a family approaching me and I've got a puppy and they've got a stroller and some kids and

01:37:52.740 I'm anticipating, I just moved to town.

01:37:54.380 Right.

01:37:54.660 So I'm like, this is going to be nice.

01:37:57.100 Like this is going to be wholesome.

01:37:58.240 Right.

01:37:58.620 I've got a puppy.

01:37:59.420 They've got some kids.

01:38:00.360 This is going to be a nice interaction.

01:38:01.780 I'm like feeling like a family man.

01:38:03.360 I just moved into my first home.

01:38:05.780 And so as they're coming, I kind of turned my body away from these people as they're

01:38:10.960 leaving.

01:38:11.240 So they don't see me.

01:38:12.240 So I don't want to make eye contact with you yelling at your wife.

01:38:14.780 And, um, I noticed that as they're approaching in my peripheral vision, I can see someone standing

01:38:22.700 in the, actually it wasn't even my peripheral.

01:38:25.600 That's right.

01:38:25.820 I remember looking over and seeing somebody standing in their garage.

01:38:29.340 Um, but it was like a silhouette.

01:38:31.040 And I just remember thinking, well, that's weird.

01:38:34.220 I just watched him leave, but I don't know these people.

01:38:36.060 Maybe more people live in the house, whatever.

01:38:37.320 But anyway, here comes this family and we have the moment, right?

01:38:41.360 We hit it off.

01:38:42.260 I go, Hey folks, how you doing?

01:38:43.580 They go, nice night.

01:38:44.540 How old's the puppy?

01:38:45.740 And in my peripheral, I see this silhouette of a man beeline for me.

01:38:51.120 And you could tell when somebody's like boogieing for you, like, and I'm, this is a totally

01:38:56.300 normal situation still.

01:38:58.260 So I'm like mortified.

01:38:59.660 I'm thinking, dude, this guy is about to come and apologize for what I've heard.

01:39:04.880 And I don't want that at all.

01:39:07.160 So I'm, I start to turn my body away from him so I could really focus on it.

01:39:10.800 Oh, how old's the baby?

01:39:12.200 And we're still having this moment.

01:39:13.580 And I can see him like speed walking up to me.

01:39:17.380 And finally I turn.

01:39:19.840 So he's out of my sight.

01:39:20.880 Cause as I'm doing this, they're also like kind of curving and I, you know, so I'm turning

01:39:25.300 and talking to them, they leave, we have this nice interaction and I'm waiting for this

01:39:31.000 guy to say something to me.

01:39:32.260 I'm waiting for him to go like, Hey, so sorry about what you heard.

01:39:34.980 And I was going to go like, Oh dude, what you are didn't even, Hey, happens to the best

01:39:39.640 of us.

01:39:39.920 I know how it is.

01:39:40.920 And he's not saying anything.

01:39:43.140 So I'm now even as an extra layer of mortification.

01:39:46.700 Cause I'm like, I have to engage now.

01:39:48.760 Fantastic.

01:39:49.420 And I turn and nobody's there at all, which is not so bad.

01:39:55.360 Now I don't have to have this interaction.

01:39:56.880 Right?

01:39:57.500 So the puppy finishes what she's doing.

01:40:00.140 I go back to the house and I get inside and I start talking to my wife and my niece and

01:40:03.800 I go, yeah, it was crazy.

01:40:05.340 Neighbors are screaming at each other.

01:40:06.720 Then what happened?

01:40:07.400 Well, they got in the car and they left.

01:40:08.880 What did you do?

01:40:09.580 Well, there was a family coming and, and I actually thought I saw one of the come out of their

01:40:14.620 driveway and walk up to me, but I don't know.

01:40:17.080 It was weird.

01:40:17.820 And I was, and they go, well, what happened?

01:40:19.700 I go, I don't know.

01:40:20.080 I turned around.

01:40:20.460 He wasn't there.

01:40:21.700 And then my niece goes, yeah, that's creepy.

01:40:25.280 And I go, huh?

01:40:26.840 Yeah, I guess that is creepy.

01:40:28.520 And my wife's like, you definitely saw somebody.

01:40:29.960 I go, yeah, I definitely saw somebody.

01:40:31.540 There's a, I knew it was the worst thing ever.

01:40:34.940 When I watched that dude walk towards me, I was like, I don't want what he's got for

01:40:37.960 me.

01:40:38.420 I don't want to have this conversation.

01:40:40.260 So they convinced me that it's creepy.

01:40:42.900 And not even 15 minutes later, my front door, boom, boom, boom, boom.

01:40:50.260 I opened the door.

01:40:52.520 Nobody's there.

01:40:53.880 I go, what the hell?

01:40:55.040 Like we're, we're new to the neighborhood.

01:40:56.780 Like, and my, my door is, I'm standing in the living room.

01:41:00.700 The door is right.

01:41:01.320 I wish I could show you.

01:41:02.420 It's right there.

01:41:02.980 Like, it's not like you're on the other side of the house hearing something.

01:41:05.820 I'm standing next to it.

01:41:07.960 So my family kind of goes like, what the hell is that about?

01:41:11.880 Uh, I don't know, dude.

01:41:14.500 A couple of minutes later, tap, tap, tap on the window.

01:41:19.160 I'm like, I go outside.

01:41:20.760 I look around the house.

01:41:21.600 Now I'm kind of going into like dad mode, right?

01:41:24.460 Cause I've got kids and near, and I'm in a new neighborhood and somebody's doing something

01:41:27.740 really weird to my house.

01:41:28.840 So I'm looking around.

01:41:30.280 Nobody's here.

01:41:30.880 I go back inside.

01:41:32.020 Boom, boom, boom.

01:41:32.760 On my garage door.

01:41:33.820 They're just doing different things around my house now.

01:41:37.380 And I'm getting pissed because this is like absolutely bizarre.

01:41:41.360 Like I'm brand new here to this neighborhood.

01:41:43.200 I just had somebody walk up to me and now, and I've drawn a correlation already.

01:41:46.660 I'm like, this is, this is creepy as shit, man.

01:41:49.180 I don't know what's going on, but this is spooky.

01:41:50.520 So, uh, we have this all night and eventually it fades and I go to sleep.

01:41:59.220 It happens on the window behind my head.

01:42:01.400 I have to get up and go out in my house at night.

01:42:04.260 I'm walking around my house with a gun at night for who's knocking on my window.

01:42:08.120 Nobody's there, dude.

01:42:09.220 This persists for like weeks, like two, three weeks.

01:42:14.720 And I'm going on the next door neighbor app and I'm trying to figure out, is anybody else

01:42:18.480 having this?

01:42:19.000 And people were, which was really interesting.

01:42:20.920 People were having this.

01:42:22.340 Some people were claiming that it was, um, a, uh, teenagers doing something.

01:42:27.160 And then other people were, but the, but they never saw them.

01:42:30.340 They would just say like, every time I opened the door, they had already run.

01:42:33.280 It was teenagers with sticks, right?

01:42:35.480 Teenagers.

01:42:36.220 Yeah.

01:42:36.900 Yeah.

01:42:37.420 I know about those guys.

01:42:38.380 Fighting in the mall.

01:42:39.400 So, um, when it gets really bad is there's two events.

01:42:43.740 One is my niece wakes up in the morning and she says that she saw the silhouette of a

01:42:48.760 man, uh, standing in her window, but like a really tall man.

01:42:52.740 And you got to understand the way my niece's window is, it's like almost all the way to

01:42:56.480 the ceiling.

01:42:56.880 So for somebody to be almost all the way to the ceiling, that's a big ass dude.

01:43:00.040 And now I'm bummed out because I'm like, I don't know how to explain this to you, but

01:43:04.700 like I bought my family to Florida and we uprooted everything and we took one of the

01:43:11.240 biggest chances in the world.

01:43:12.320 And now we're haunted and this is my fault.

01:43:15.840 You know what I mean?

01:43:16.800 So I feel like a lot of responsibility for this.

01:43:19.460 So my cousin and I are standing in the living room one day and we're within arm's reach

01:43:26.080 of the door and it's nighttime and my front porch light is on boom, boom, boom, boom.

01:43:31.160 And we grabbed that handle so fast, ripped it open, ran.

01:43:34.640 He ran one way.

01:43:35.580 I ran, you ever see signs where it's like, I'm screaming with anger.

01:43:39.040 Like he runs one way, I run the other way and there's nothing.

01:43:41.920 And we turn around and the only thing that I see is a skittering black cloud move across

01:43:48.020 my front lawn.

01:43:49.460 But I'm there and the light is on.

01:43:51.780 And this is not an animal because I can see everything.

01:43:54.520 I can see the leaves on my bushes.

01:43:55.920 Why can't I make out what this thing is?

01:43:57.680 And my cousin goes, did you see that?

01:43:59.220 And I go on the lawn.

01:44:00.460 He goes, no.

01:44:01.240 And he points in the distance and there's just a shadow running across like the street,

01:44:06.720 but there's no, there's not a person.

01:44:08.860 It's just a shadow.

01:44:09.880 It's under the street light and there's no, but there's no person.

01:44:15.040 Oh, I love this story.

01:44:16.500 I, but no, because that's where the story ends, dude.

01:44:20.160 Because that night I'm like wielding the authority of the name of Jesus Christ all around my

01:44:25.960 house.

01:44:26.780 Like, and I'm very specific.

01:44:28.240 I'm like, you will leave this place.

01:44:29.740 I am the owner of this home.

01:44:31.040 You have no authority to be here in the name of Jesus Christ.

01:44:33.940 Be gone from here.

01:44:34.860 Go where he wills you.

01:44:36.100 Leave my family.

01:44:37.020 Leave my niece.

01:44:37.960 You are, you know, not any room in this house.

01:44:40.080 Not my lawn, wherever Jesus wills you is the name of the game.

01:44:43.740 And that shit stopped on a dime, homie.

01:44:45.840 That was it after that.

01:44:47.000 Although from time to time still.

01:44:49.420 And my son will go like, why does something knock on the window sometimes?

01:44:53.380 And I go, I don't know, dude, but it's not, it's like non-threatening, but it's like,

01:44:57.540 you know what it specifically felt like that permission thing.

01:45:00.800 It was like this thing that this is the feeling that I got.

01:45:03.720 And I think the feelings go a long way guys, when it comes to this kind of shit.

01:45:06.440 And thank you, Tony, this is all your fault.

01:45:08.160 Cause I emailed you, uh, your feelings on the situation, they go a long way when it

01:45:14.180 comes to like interpreting what's going on.

01:45:15.900 That thing on the street tried me and, and I hadn't like displayed authority over my home

01:45:23.100 yet.

01:45:23.380 I was a new homeowner.

01:45:24.480 And I think before you, maybe there's like a ceremony we should be doing like invoking

01:45:29.820 the name of Christ and taking ownership over the home.

01:45:32.560 Um, and I hadn't done that yet.

01:45:35.320 And so you're leaving like a door open, like a spiritual door open where these things can

01:45:40.280 try you because you haven't claimed this place as your own yet.

01:45:43.320 And, um, and that thing was trying me.

01:45:46.100 And, and I think, honestly, I think it was like, this is how I feel some low level, weak

01:45:50.400 ass shit.

01:45:50.960 Like it was like knocking on me and knocking on my door.

01:45:53.980 And it wasn't like a strong entity.

01:45:55.500 It wasn't like, I've seen some shit before.

01:45:57.600 It was the entity hood rats.

01:45:59.780 Yeah, exactly.

01:46:01.000 Exactly.

01:46:01.500 It was the memo mall.

01:46:02.360 I mean, the, uh, Miami mall kids, but I, I mean, when I tell you this happened, like

01:46:08.040 maybe a day after I emailed you, I was like, what should I have emailed Tony?

01:46:11.660 Like, I get that all the time.

01:46:14.840 I get that all the time.

01:46:16.140 People, people, they'll email me.

01:46:17.960 And then like, since I emailed you, stuff's been happening.

01:46:20.360 I'm not doing the interview.

01:46:21.260 I'm like, all right, I'm pretty busy.

01:46:23.520 Anyways, uh, didn't you have a guy that had a schizophrenic girlfriend that you were supposed

01:46:30.340 to do a show and then it ended up falling through because specifically they did not want

01:46:34.460 to communicate with you?

01:46:35.840 Well, I don't remember exactly how that unfolded, but I do remember I, I had a dream before I

01:46:44.900 was supposed to interview them.

01:46:45.940 Um, yeah, I think you're right, but I, I, um, I had a dream before they canceled.

01:46:50.860 I think it was how it unfolded.

01:46:52.280 And, uh, in the dream, I was interviewing a guy and a girl and she started crawling through

01:46:59.340 the screen and I was reaching for my computer button to turn it off the screen, trying to

01:47:05.880 stop it from happening.

01:47:06.980 And I woke up yelling, my wife woke me up and, uh, yeah, that was an interesting one

01:47:13.720 because I, that one, I I'm fairly convinced she's, she's dealing with some serious possession

01:47:18.680 stuff and I don't think he agrees with that notion.

01:47:27.860 I'm hearing things.

01:47:29.380 Um, we, we, we have some weird things happen here.

01:47:32.460 I think it's just because of what I do.

01:47:33.640 Um, but we go into what you, um, what you were saying though, I think, and I'm not perfect

01:47:40.820 at this, but I think if we, I think where we, we fall short is that we, we, we claim

01:47:48.600 the authority, but we don't do it continually and we're instructed to pray continually, always

01:47:54.280 be in prayer.

01:47:55.360 Um, and, and, uh, I think, uh, I think if we just start making it part of our routine

01:48:00.700 and, and, and doing it with the, the, not, maybe not like in the name of Jesus, you know,

01:48:06.060 like that, that, that anger aggression, but like just the, the, the passion desire of wanting

01:48:11.760 to see your family whole and left alone.

01:48:15.980 Um, if we do that more continually, those little taps may not happen.

01:48:20.860 Cause I think, I do think that, that, that when you, when you pray over your home and stuff,

01:48:25.460 I believe it works, but I think that they, it's like, it's like, um, they keep pushing,

01:48:32.000 right?

01:48:32.220 So you have this big bat and you hit them out of the yard.

01:48:35.560 They're just going to land and start crawling their way back.

01:48:38.860 And so, um, I think it's the continual prayer, I think is what we need to be putting more in

01:48:43.500 practice.

01:48:43.840 And I'm not perfect at it.

01:48:45.360 Um, we, we have had things happen in the house.

01:48:48.580 We, we had a banging situation on my house not too long ago, probably a few months ago now.

01:48:52.500 Um, and I searched my entire property.

01:48:55.200 That's what I love about being in East Tennessee.

01:48:56.800 I can walk around my, my property anytime a day with an AR.

01:49:00.140 My neighbors are like, Hey neighbor.

01:49:01.500 I'm like, Hey, how you doing?

01:49:02.620 You know, nobody cares.

01:49:03.980 Um, my neighbor comes out and he, he, he sees me with my AR walking around my property.

01:49:08.260 He's like, you shooting?

01:49:09.140 And I was like, I was like, no, I heard, I said, I heard, and he knows what I do.

01:49:14.580 So, uh, I said, I heard something banged on my house and he's like, well, I'm pretty much

01:49:19.460 deaf, but my wife and kids, they heard it too.

01:49:22.820 And he said, it sounded like, they said that it sounded like something was banging on your

01:49:25.740 house.

01:49:26.120 And I was like, yeah, that's what it sounded like.

01:49:28.220 And, um, and so I was ready to shoot Bigfoot or something.

01:49:31.300 I don't know, but I, I didn't see anything.

01:49:33.580 Um, but even before that, um, I, and the, for me, a lot of the stuff tends to happen when

01:49:40.920 I'm not home.

01:49:41.940 Like, I, I think there's a sign there.

01:49:45.120 I mean, I, I, I do exercise spiritual authority in my household, uh, significantly.

01:49:52.360 And so when I'm not there, I think is where the buttons get pushed.

01:49:56.100 Um, same thing for me.

01:49:58.240 My wife will tell me that she hears all kinds of, I'll get text message.

01:50:01.280 She's like, Oh, it's super creepy here right now.

01:50:03.560 And I'm like, and, but I don't have it when I come here.

01:50:06.180 Yeah, exactly.

01:50:07.500 Like, I mean, I, I, I'm not, I don't think I've ever really been creeped out in my house.

01:50:13.020 Um, yeah, but what I was, I was probably here.

01:50:18.280 I don't remember where I was, but my wife was putting my daughter down for a nap and she's

01:50:23.940 laying in the bed with my daughter.

01:50:26.000 My son's in the living room watching TV or whatever.

01:50:28.740 And, um, she has her back towards the bedroom door and she hears,

01:50:36.180 hears a whisper go, mommy.

01:50:39.380 And she turns around to look cause she thinks it's Benny, my son, and ain't nobody in there.

01:50:44.360 And so she rolls over towards my daughter and just lays there the entire nap time, holding

01:50:49.480 her, snapping with her.

01:50:51.820 And, you know, I don't think she really thought much of it.

01:50:54.820 Uh, and then she comes out of the bedroom after nap time is over and my son comes running

01:51:00.280 over and says, mommy, something really scary happened when you were in there.

01:51:03.040 And she's like, what?

01:51:04.060 And he said, I heard somebody whisper my name from the hallway, which is right where

01:51:09.140 my daughter's bedroom was.

01:51:11.120 And so at the same time that my wife heard somebody whisper mommy, my son heard somebody

01:51:15.600 whisper Benny, uh, to him and I wasn't there for it.

01:51:19.900 And so, you know, I went home and prayed over the house and I have anointing oil and I don't

01:51:26.160 know if that works or not, but I have it, uh, Pentecostal here, you know, we just got to

01:51:29.880 throw the oil around.

01:51:30.720 Come on.

01:51:32.240 I'll take the oil before I take the sage.

01:51:34.120 People are like burn sage.

01:51:35.140 I'm like, I'm not burning the sage.

01:51:36.600 When this is over, if you have a minute, I'll tell you about something, uh, some stuff going

01:51:41.860 on.

01:51:42.080 I told David.

01:51:43.460 So I've spilled my guts out on live air and you won't do this.

01:51:46.640 I got it.

01:51:47.160 I get it.

01:51:47.640 I get it.

01:51:48.260 I get it.

01:51:48.780 Not everybody's as brave as me.

01:51:49.860 That's just how he is.

01:51:50.780 He just, he's closed off.

01:51:52.240 If it was just me, if it was just me, I would, I would say it, but it involves, uh, something

01:51:56.660 to not, not necessarily my wife, but like, you know, her side of the family.

01:52:00.400 So I'm just not going to like tell their business before.

01:52:04.220 Honestly, I haven't even told them what I'm suspecting with the story.

01:52:07.580 I, I haven't even told them and I'm pretty sure that I'm spot on.

01:52:11.040 My wife agrees with me, but, um, after the show, just if you're interested, remind

01:52:14.920 me, but I had told David, it's, it's very, it's a similar thing where your household

01:52:19.440 will come under attack.

01:52:20.960 And this was before I was doing a show or anything.

01:52:22.700 It's like almost right when I moved to Florida, like life had like a downturn, you know, wife,

01:52:28.320 wife was sick.

01:52:29.440 Kids were jacked up.

01:52:30.820 My son was, uh, delayed, like critically delayed in speech from, you know, just being in New

01:52:36.720 York, not seeing anyone's face.

01:52:39.280 It was, it was horrible.

01:52:41.660 And, uh, you know, we've, we've, we've got it under control.

01:52:43.900 We've managed it.

01:52:44.920 And obviously like prayer is a big thing.

01:52:47.140 My mom's probably watching this and she's like, she, I don't talk about my spirituality

01:52:50.300 with my mom.

01:52:51.260 She's a Christian, but I I'm just, I'm saying like, I learned how to pray in a different

01:52:56.560 way now.

01:52:57.020 Whereas before I kind of, I felt like I was just mimicking my dad or, you know, how like

01:53:01.620 they, they have the, someone has a cadence in prayer to me.

01:53:04.800 I was like, that's not really prayer.

01:53:05.880 It didn't work for me.

01:53:06.760 Now I just talked to, I talked to God and Jesus, like, uh, kind of like I'm talking to you

01:53:11.060 now, but you know, obviously with much more respect, just like.

01:53:15.320 But it's, it's got, I feel like for me, it's gotta be a conversation.

01:53:18.280 And that has helped.

01:53:20.520 I think my family get out of what was going on.

01:53:23.480 And when I tell you later, you're going to understand why it's just, I hate to, I hate

01:53:26.420 to leave it like that, but it's too important.

01:53:28.480 Yeah.

01:53:28.940 Yeah.

01:53:29.140 No, I mean, not, not everything's, trust me, I've learned over the years, not everything's

01:53:33.040 for the airwaves, whether the people like it or not, that there'll be people, there's

01:53:36.580 people that'll comment.

01:53:37.240 They'll be like, I hate when they say that they can't, uh, they, they, they can't talk

01:53:41.580 about it, but they, they bring it up.

01:53:43.080 And it's like, well, you couldn't just be left in the dark and not know that there's anything

01:53:47.160 to be talked about.

01:53:48.040 You know, like we can bring it to, to a certain edge, but there's certain lines that just

01:53:52.640 can't be crossed.

01:53:53.320 And I know it's, it's, it's candy to the ears, but, uh, maybe sometimes people do that on

01:53:58.360 purpose.

01:53:58.680 For me, I'm not that strategic.

01:54:00.160 I just, I just am who I am.

01:54:02.140 And I just talk and things come out.

01:54:04.200 And sometimes my fans, my fans that know who I am, know that I never do that.

01:54:08.680 Like if you, if you watch my other show, tower gang, it's offensive comedy to the nth

01:54:15.280 degree, the most offensive comedic show.

01:54:17.760 So nothing's off the table.

01:54:19.060 We're talking about everything, any word that you can imagine.

01:54:22.460 Nothing is taboo.

01:54:23.480 I do it because I feel like it breaks down this, uh, this matrix that's been built up

01:54:28.500 or up around us.

01:54:29.600 And it's, it's almost like, I have a hard time putting, um, this show and what I do and

01:54:34.820 in my personal life separate from what I do on Twitter and what I do with that show.

01:54:39.560 But I feel like it's very important.

01:54:41.140 Like it gives people this, this extra step, like, Oh, these, they're just being real.

01:54:45.700 Like I was like this in the nineties too, you know?

01:54:48.620 And then all of a sudden something happened where it's like, I can't express myself.

01:54:52.000 I can't tell the truth.

01:54:53.420 That's really the biggest part of it.

01:54:55.640 And whether it's, um, whether I'm being truthful with some of the awful jokes, I say, it's just

01:55:00.620 that I'm, I'm stepping past that line and I'm saying, come with me.

01:55:04.020 You know, this is not, this is not malicious.

01:55:06.380 I don't hate these.

01:55:07.080 I don't hate people, but come with me.

01:55:08.900 Let's, let's step past this thing.

01:55:10.320 Whatever they told us that we can't do.

01:55:11.980 That's like, we have to break that off in order to understand what is really going on

01:55:15.520 around this.

01:55:15.900 Because like we've been put into this like blanket state of sleep where people are watching

01:55:20.400 what they do and what they say.

01:55:21.860 And no one really knows what is going on.

01:55:25.980 I think it takes a special person to be able to do that.

01:55:30.140 Like, um, I really think it takes a special person to be able to do that.

01:55:34.160 Cause I, uh, one of the worst people in the world here.

01:55:36.760 Shout out Juan.

01:55:37.360 Top down line.

01:55:38.320 You don't have to.

01:55:40.140 No, we're not shouting out Juan anymore.

01:55:41.580 We shout out, uh, Thomas, the paranoid American.

01:55:43.920 No shout out for Juan.

01:55:45.440 But yeah, no, I think it takes a special person to kind of do that because it takes the forward

01:55:48.860 thinking, the, the understanding of like, there's a destination that I'm trying to get to.

01:55:55.060 And we're going to take these steps to get there and we're going to do it intentionally, uh, with,

01:56:01.040 I imagine as little emotion attached to it as possible.

01:56:07.340 I, I just for like, because I couldn't do it.

01:56:10.900 I couldn't do that.

01:56:11.880 I couldn't do it.

01:56:12.540 I get too rowdy.

01:56:13.880 I get too rowdy.

01:56:15.120 And so like, I, like I can't, like, I can't, there's a reason why I can't, I don't even watch UFC.

01:56:22.980 I don't understand it.

01:56:24.580 Like, I don't understand the idea of two guys getting a ring and try and knock each other

01:56:29.060 out and not hating each other afterwards.

01:56:31.020 I'm like, that doesn't compute with me.

01:56:32.960 It doesn't seem like a sport.

01:56:34.140 So, um, and I, I think that it takes a special kind of person to do it.

01:56:37.960 And I think we need people like that, that are able to, to do that in a strategic way.

01:56:43.000 Um, so I think that's awesome.

01:56:45.320 I think what it is, is it's like, there's been this encroaching power.

01:56:48.640 That's like part of the, the battle that's coming from, you know, the negative side of

01:56:54.520 all this is part of the control mechanism is controlling our speech, controlling our,

01:56:59.160 like top said, our ability to tell the truth, the logos, you can't fight that unless you

01:57:05.140 do it all.

01:57:06.120 So if the battle is on a verbal front, if the battle is with the things that you can and

01:57:10.600 can't say, well, if you're on the side of free speech and, and you know, that the truth

01:57:16.540 is the most important thing and you have to be able to express that, well, then how do

01:57:19.660 you wield that?

01:57:20.320 You wield that in the biggest F you way possible, which is, I'm going to say whatever I want

01:57:24.960 and I'm not going to stop.

01:57:26.180 What is speech?

01:57:27.100 And like, when you really think about it, it's in the, it's the first book of the Bible within

01:57:30.080 the first, the first verse, God said something and it was good.

01:57:34.380 It was true.

01:57:35.700 That's like, there's a Jordan Peterson thing.

01:57:37.420 That's where we get the top lobster, but it's like, if you're not saying the truth, what

01:57:41.240 are like, what are you manifesting?

01:57:42.880 You're maybe just nothing, maybe just crap.

01:57:46.700 But for me, it's like, if I'm not saying the truth, even at my own detriment, and thank

01:57:50.880 God things have worked out for me the way that they have, because it could have gone awry

01:57:55.620 years ago.

01:57:56.180 I got doxxed when I was just a t-shirt company and like, not really even talking, but yeah,

01:58:02.040 I don't know.

01:58:02.340 I've just been consistently saying the truth as I see it and people seem to like it.

01:58:07.040 And it's gotten me this far to the point where I'm like, I don't know where I'm at,

01:58:12.260 but I don't know where I'm going to end up, but I've gotten this far doing that.

01:58:15.400 And I continue, I intend on doing the same thing.

01:58:18.360 It's just the, it like, like Tony has since the beginning of this episode, since, since

01:58:22.900 the pre-chat, he's like, am I doing this right?

01:58:25.940 Am I doing the right thing?

01:58:27.620 Am I headed in the right direction?

01:58:28.940 I'll tell you in a year.

01:58:32.140 I think, I think there, there's an, it has to be an awareness of your, what you're able

01:58:35.320 to do, what you're, who you are.

01:58:37.900 Um, like, all right.

01:58:40.140 So, so what you're describing, what you're doing and what Peterson does, same idea, different

01:58:45.820 ways of doing it.

01:58:46.700 Right.

01:58:47.820 And neither way, neither one of those is something that I have a strong suit at.

01:58:53.960 So I can be insulting, but when I'm insulting, I'm not doing it to make a point.

01:58:58.920 I'm doing it to be insulting.

01:59:00.500 I'm doing it to be extremely nasty because I do not like you.

01:59:04.180 And I don't have the, the middle ground switch.

01:59:07.880 I have a, Hey, we're really cool to, I can't stand you.

01:59:11.980 And so I don't cross certain lines because I know where it goes for me.

01:59:17.320 And so there's certain arenas that I don't play in because it's just not good for me.

01:59:22.660 And so, uh, I think that's what I'm, that's what I'm trying to say.

01:59:25.880 Like there's a, there's a special, there's special people in this world who have the

01:59:29.400 ability to do certain things like Jordan.

01:59:31.460 I love Jordan.

01:59:33.020 Jordan is such a high intellectual person who can speak in a way that retards like me can

01:59:39.140 understand, you know?

01:59:40.820 And like that, that's special.

01:59:44.240 And, and I, I, and the same thing with the comedy and things like that.

01:59:48.600 But, uh, for me, I think I tried it a little bit when I did my radio show rage against dystopia

01:59:55.700 and I quickly learned after about, I don't know, a month or two of doing a radio show

02:00:01.360 that it was, it was killing me because the only way I could do this rage against dystopia

02:00:07.740 show is to find things that I was getting irate about because like, like, I don't have

02:00:13.080 that, I don't have the ability to convey bad things without being furious about it.

02:00:18.340 And I realized that's what people were coming to the show for.

02:00:20.880 They wanted to hear me rant and get angry.

02:00:22.880 And I was like, this isn't healthy for me.

02:00:24.280 I can't do this because I'm just going to lose my mind and, and for everybody's enjoyment

02:00:29.340 and entertainment.

02:00:30.220 And so that's what I kind of knowing it's knowing what you're good at, right?

02:00:33.920 Like, so there's varying levels of like, you're like, I can't even watch UFC.

02:00:37.420 I love the UFC, but everyone is, is a different, at a different spot.

02:00:41.540 David keeps trying to get me to watch this Obama film.

02:00:44.200 And even my mom too, like you got to watch it.

02:00:46.820 It's a good one.

02:00:47.600 You see for me though, Tony, I can watch guys pummel each other to death and then shake

02:00:52.120 hands and understand it.

02:00:53.380 I can't watch the psyop that is a movie about the psyop of the guy that created the psyop.

02:00:59.920 I can't do it.

02:01:00.940 It brings me down spiritually.

02:01:02.340 And I know it already.

02:01:03.520 Like I'm already, I already dabble in this stuff all day.

02:01:05.660 I'm like, I don't need to, I know what they, I want to do it.

02:01:07.400 Watch the live stream of the world economic forum with Klaus Schwab.

02:01:10.180 He said it there.

02:01:10.920 I don't need to see it in a movie with a diversified cast.

02:01:14.260 You know, it's really interesting about you top is that I, you, you got really like upset

02:01:18.380 about the January 6th thing, even like watching what was happening to people.

02:01:21.400 And you've told me that before and it's like, yeah, like seeing, like knowing that these

02:01:26.160 guys were about to get locked up, knowing that this was all going to be spun around on

02:01:29.320 them like that really hurt you.

02:01:31.120 And like, I don't know, it is interesting.

02:01:34.280 You have your spots where you can't do a thing.

02:01:37.460 Like you can't watch, leave the world behind.

02:01:39.580 I don't know where, where my spots are yet, but I have noticed that about you is like,

02:01:43.340 there's certain things where you're totally willing to go there.

02:01:45.840 And then other things you're like, no, that's poison for me.

02:01:48.540 And I don't want it.

02:01:49.260 And I'm like, that's really interesting.

02:01:50.300 It's good to have your spots.

02:01:51.660 Tony, you haven't been on, you haven't been on a X very long or you have, but like that

02:01:57.260 bothers me.

02:01:57.920 The movie on Netflix.

02:01:58.820 I don't like it.

02:02:00.680 I'm completely fine with having an interaction with Elon Musk about the Jews in Adrenochrome,

02:02:05.840 getting articles written about me.

02:02:07.960 I just like, that is like fine.

02:02:10.400 But that other thing I can't do, and I know I can't do it.

02:02:13.360 So I just don't do it.

02:02:14.380 Like I'm at the stage in my life where I'm like, that's what I don't do.

02:02:17.040 And I don't do it.

02:02:18.280 Tony, I, I, I, uh, I watched that movie right when it came out.

02:02:24.080 I didn't know who was behind it or anything.

02:02:26.260 I, I didn't even know it was coming out.

02:02:27.820 It just so happened.

02:02:28.740 I went on Netflix, uh, while we were getting ready to wrap Santa's presence to the kids.

02:02:34.520 And I was like, this looks like my vibe, but I'm watching it.

02:02:37.920 I'm like, oh my gosh.

02:02:39.860 I was like, they're telling us what's going to happen.

02:02:42.120 I'm like, I'll tell my wife, she was like wrapping presents for Santa and say from Santa.

02:02:46.260 And I'm like, this is revealing the method.

02:02:49.500 This is revelation of the method.

02:02:50.500 This is what they're telling us.

02:02:51.500 This is what's going to happen.

02:02:52.340 And I'm like, I'm like losing my mind.

02:02:54.080 And she, and she's watching it.

02:02:55.760 She's like, I think you're right.

02:02:56.880 I'm like, yeah, yeah.

02:02:58.120 Buy more food.

02:02:59.200 Get a bunker.

02:03:00.220 Like I was like, I was.

02:03:01.760 I don't have ammunition.

02:03:03.100 I feel bad for our wives.

02:03:04.500 The bunkers have been a big thing the last couple of weeks.

02:03:06.620 I mean, Mark Zuckerberg building his own bunkers.

02:03:09.220 Apparently the Jews in New York already have their own bunkers.

02:03:12.180 I don't have a bunker in your yard.

02:03:14.120 Let's build a bunker in your yard.

02:03:15.240 It's Florida.

02:03:15.760 I don't know how that works.

02:03:16.520 It's like soft ground here.

02:03:17.620 I don't even have a basement.

02:03:18.520 Tony, one of the craziest things, right?

02:03:20.260 So Top goes through all this stuff.

02:03:21.460 He'll be exposed to all these crazy things.

02:03:23.020 Like he said, people writing articles about him.

02:03:25.100 We're at a gathering at his house and we're presented with a recording.

02:03:28.960 And this recording is, unfortunately, it's very dark in nature.

02:03:32.240 The story goes, there was some roommates and one of them was addicted to fentanyl.

02:03:40.180 And so what ends up happening is he starts going through this episode.

02:03:44.820 And I don't think that the other roommate knew necessarily that he was ODing, but he can

02:03:50.120 hear him in the bathroom making horrifying sounds.

02:03:53.900 And so what he does is he starts to record.

02:03:55.960 And as he's recording, you can tell that there is at least three discernible voices going on.

02:04:03.320 But there's only one guy in the bathroom.

02:04:05.520 At some points, they are happening at the same time, speaking over one another.

02:04:09.680 As a matter of fact, and I know this is interesting because you've stumbled upon this thing recently.

02:04:14.520 I believe I heard it through your show.

02:04:16.040 This idea of a second set of vocal cords.

02:04:18.560 So like this, that people can emit almost a different voice.

02:04:21.840 And maybe I'm wrong if that was a different show.

02:04:24.720 But that's the only thing I could think of as to how this dude was making.

02:04:30.880 It was like his voice of suffering, another voice of like an antagonistic, almost feminine.

02:04:38.220 Like I would liken it to like a witch, dude.

02:04:40.000 Like it sounded like this, like, like, uh, the exorcist when she would speak in that, that

02:04:45.540 gravelly, like, ah, your mother, you know, like that kind of voice.

02:04:48.320 And then this other voice that was very much like a beast, like an animal, like guttural,

02:04:54.740 growling, no words, just great.

02:04:56.400 And the other ones.

02:04:57.240 And they listened to this shit in my house.

02:04:59.760 I said, no, we have to at least go outside of my house.

02:05:02.420 I'm not listening to this inside, outside of the door.

02:05:05.040 We leave this portal, close this door.

02:05:07.500 And then, and still too close.

02:05:09.340 I did not like that at all.

02:05:11.060 But I could tell, like, when I was like, let's listen to this.

02:05:14.000 Like, you know, uh, I, I didn't know top well enough, but I can still pick up on like,

02:05:18.760 did he just flinch at the idea of like, he didn't verbalize it, but he was like, you

02:05:23.520 know, like, and I was like, let's go on.

02:05:26.680 You want to go on the porch?

02:05:27.660 And he's like, let's go on the porch and listen to it.

02:05:29.240 And I was like.

02:05:29.760 This is, it was just my first introduction to like a dude who I'm like, this guy is

02:05:33.800 in the trenches, swinging broad swords and laughing as he's covered in the blood of sissies.

02:05:38.780 And like all of a sudden now it's like, we got to go on the porch.

02:05:42.340 All this political stuff, all the Twitter stuff, this is all people.

02:05:45.060 And this is all stupid.

02:05:46.100 And it's fun.

02:05:46.820 It's entertainment.

02:05:47.820 The spiritual stuff is where I'm like, okay, like you'll, if you come across my Twitter

02:05:53.180 or even me in real life, I'm very like, I'm going to make jokes about everything and

02:05:56.820 anything.

02:05:57.160 I don't care.

02:05:58.240 There's no limit.

02:05:58.900 But once we get to this part, I'm like, okay, have a seat and let's, uh, let's really talk

02:06:04.400 about what's going on here.

02:06:05.300 And it kind of, I guess it takes people off guard, but it's the only thing that really

02:06:09.400 matters.

02:06:10.580 Very much off guard.

02:06:11.660 Yeah.

02:06:12.160 You're the one who told us that time to get serious when the spiritual stuff hits the

02:06:18.900 fan time to get serious.

02:06:20.580 Yeah.

02:06:20.980 I mean, like, and that just takes, uh, I think people like us, you know, for me, I mean,

02:06:27.360 like I, I don't live my life for this one.

02:06:31.160 I live for the next one.

02:06:31.980 So, uh, everything that I do has spiritual ramifications, good and bad, and I'm not perfect.

02:06:38.800 And I do things all the time that make ripple effects in the bad, bad direction.

02:06:43.420 And it pisses me off every time I do it.

02:06:46.280 Uh, but when I'm conscious in the moment to make sure I step through the portal onto the

02:06:50.800 porch, that's what I'm going to do for the betterment of the spiritual beings of the people

02:06:54.480 in my house and things like that.

02:06:56.220 Um, you know, like I think, I don't think, I don't think we even comprehend the impact

02:07:01.740 that we have on the kids that are underneath us.

02:07:04.220 Um, and we, and we mess up all the time.

02:07:07.040 Um, so yeah, it's, it's a, it's a very, the spiritual side of things is so real, uh, that

02:07:12.960 I guess in a way you can just look at everything else and be like, I don't care.

02:07:16.060 It's all a joke.

02:07:18.380 Um, but yeah, guys, I mean, I, I, I think that we're living in some really bizarre times.

02:07:24.740 I think that, uh, the Nephilim might be returning and, um, I don't know what that's going to look

02:07:32.780 like totally.

02:07:34.060 And it excites me.

02:07:35.780 It gets me.

02:07:36.780 I was going to say, and I'm pumped.

02:07:38.300 I'm hype.

02:07:39.680 I, I, it just, it's, it's so exciting.

02:07:42.960 Um, and, and, and not in a way that of like, I, I, I want to meet them.

02:07:47.340 It's, it's in a way of like, oh, this battle.

02:07:51.500 Yeah.

02:07:51.900 It's like, it's like, oh, this chapter starting now.

02:07:54.820 Okay.

02:07:55.620 Okay.

02:07:56.020 This chapter starting now I know where this is going and, oh, I can't, I, I'm going to

02:08:02.180 be look, okay, where's he coming?

02:08:03.880 Where is he at?

02:08:04.660 You know?

02:08:05.080 Cause like, I'm like, okay, I know where this is going.

02:08:08.140 Um, and so that's what I mean by it's exciting, uh, because it's just like,

02:08:12.960 you know, we, we, we see, we've said, we've seen it in throughout the scripture.

02:08:18.840 We've talked about all these, all these years and we're starting to see things unfold.

02:08:24.000 And it's just like, man, like you never really think it's going to happen in your lifetime.

02:08:28.000 Right.

02:08:28.800 Why our lifetime?

02:08:29.940 That's exactly.

02:08:30.800 And that's, well, that's the thing.

02:08:31.960 Like, like everybody, so like, so like growing up, it's like every generation is like, oh,

02:08:37.160 God's coming back in our lifetime, this, that, and the other.

02:08:39.100 And in your, in, in, in your youth, you're like, yeah, okay.

02:08:42.180 Everybody always says that.

02:08:43.700 And now for the first time in my life, I'm like, I could see that happening.

02:08:48.840 Actually.

02:08:49.680 I could actually, well, you know what?

02:08:51.120 They didn't have Nephilim coming through portals in Miami mall.

02:08:54.840 I mean, we have all the good stuff.

02:08:56.420 And what I have to say to the people who expected it to come all those years is, ha ha.

02:09:01.720 We're the ones that get all the cool shit.

02:09:03.560 You complainers.

02:09:06.020 The more this goes on, the more I'm emboldened, right?

02:09:09.200 The more we go down this path of like, oh my God, this is spiritual warfare.

02:09:13.500 This is all biblical.

02:09:14.820 I'm like, thank God.

02:09:16.960 Thank God.

02:09:17.600 This is all biblical.

02:09:18.600 Thank God that this is all real.

02:09:20.100 That's the way I feel.

02:09:20.900 That's every time another step is taken, I feel better about it.

02:09:24.220 And you can be blackpilled and you can see all this stuff and you can get upset about

02:09:27.120 the direction that the world is going.

02:09:28.640 As soon as you plug in the biblical lens, you're suddenly not blackpilled anymore.

02:09:32.040 Or you're more like, thank God.

02:09:34.060 You're at peace.

02:09:34.440 Because this is all real.

02:09:35.880 Exactly.

02:09:36.560 You know how it ends.

02:09:37.780 Yeah.

02:09:38.100 Like you're at peace.

02:09:39.180 As soon as you see it and you know what side you're on, you're like, it's overwhelming.

02:09:48.980 And that's why maybe I can say, oh, I'm here for it.

02:09:52.060 This is exciting.

02:09:52.800 Because I already know.

02:09:54.680 I already know what side I'm on.

02:09:56.400 I already accepted the fact that one day this guy is going to die.

02:09:59.380 Like I'm dying.

02:10:00.600 Every day I'm dying.

02:10:02.040 And that's why I said, I'm not living for this life.

02:10:05.580 I'm living for the next one.

02:10:07.440 Like I don't, whether it's a Nephilim coming through a portal and biting my head off, or

02:10:14.520 I die from cancer at 65 because I smoked cigarettes like a chimney driving truck.

02:10:19.600 Like I'm going to die.

02:10:22.140 And the final destination is the same no matter how I die.

02:10:28.140 And so like, I'm so much at peace with it.

02:10:32.960 When you come to realization and you're like, wow, the Nephilim are returning.

02:10:38.540 It's just like, oh, well, you know, I'm at peace with it.

02:10:42.160 It's a Jerry Marzinski idea of taking agency of your own life.

02:10:45.880 Like the people that suffer with schizophrenia and don't understand that it is entities, the schizophrenia will get worse.

02:10:52.340 They'll spiral and it'll lead to their, he actually, an interesting statistic, psychoanalysis or psychologists like him.

02:10:59.640 And the schizophrenic patients have similar statistics for suicide.

02:11:04.980 That's where it leads to.

02:11:06.600 But once you realize, once you're aware and you're able to take inventory and take account of yourself, you have that agency now where it's like, well, now, now I can actually be proactive.

02:11:16.640 Even though, you know, if Nephilim come to my property, I'm like shooting with an AR, like it might not be, but it gives me peace.

02:11:24.040 You can try.

02:11:24.980 We need, we need like that sword that, you know, that they use to cut off Goliath's head.

02:11:28.680 You need Nephilim technology.

02:11:30.220 But shout out to Rife Technology because we're, we might have a direct energy weapon.

02:11:34.860 I just want to say, man, if it's going to be Nephilim, please at least let, and as Nephilim Death Squad, I would like a joint, like, please let us take one out.

02:11:44.340 Just one out on our way.

02:11:46.000 Just, just to have that moment.

02:11:47.700 Right on the wall.

02:11:48.280 That's it.

02:11:48.980 Because if not, then the name means nothing.

02:11:51.460 Look, speaking of dying, I know Tony has got the flu or something.

02:11:55.060 He doesn't know.

02:11:55.500 He doesn't go to doctors.

02:11:56.260 He has no idea what he has.

02:11:57.760 So I want to respect his time.

02:11:59.240 Tony, thank you so much, dude.

02:12:00.960 This has been like genuinely awesome.

02:12:03.480 Awesome conversation.

02:12:04.520 And I just, you know, you kind of were the spark for the inception of this show.

02:12:10.400 And so we've come full circle.

02:12:13.100 And Tony, before we go, let him know.

02:12:15.460 I'm sorry.

02:12:16.120 I keep interrupting.

02:12:16.820 Go, Tony.

02:12:17.240 Go.

02:12:17.620 I'm sorry.

02:12:18.240 No, I just, no, I was just going to say, I appreciate you guys inviting me on the show.

02:12:22.600 And I think it's crazy that, that my show, the way this show started, I think it's, it's crazy.

02:12:28.980 And I think you guys give me too much credit for stuff.

02:12:31.200 I just, I just sit behind a microphone, talk to people and talk out loud, you know?

02:12:36.100 But I appreciate you guys bringing me on.

02:12:38.980 And I wish I, I don't know.

02:12:41.300 I hope I, I hope I did good for you.

02:12:42.880 Cause I, I feel like being sick, I, I, I wasn't able to hit a grand slam or something, but hopefully I did.

02:12:49.740 Okay.

02:12:50.020 I tried to get multiple grand slams, dude.

02:12:52.440 You're correct.

02:12:52.840 Fully invigorated.

02:12:53.800 I loved it.

02:12:54.720 Um, before you go, tell them where they could find you.

02:12:57.200 And if you, if you would, we've never done this before, but leave us out on a, on a prayer on the way out, because I feel like that's pretty important.

02:13:05.420 Haven't seen it.

02:13:06.160 I don't even care if people think this is a Christian show.

02:13:07.960 I already told you what I think about my fans.

02:13:10.400 If, if you would, Tony.

02:13:13.080 Yeah, no problem.

02:13:14.100 That's fine with me.

02:13:14.760 That's actually, I think might be the first time that somebody has asked me for that, but that's cool.

02:13:17.560 I like that.

02:13:18.840 Um, yeah, you can find me the confessionals podcast.com, uh, on any podcast playing app.

02:13:25.700 Uh, that's the Genesis of what people know me from.

02:13:28.680 Uh, I am trying to, um, enthusiastically and entrepreneurially, uh, move Merkle media in the direction of the, the next level of everything.

02:13:41.880 And so we're trying to make documentary.

02:13:44.560 We are making documentaries and we are making movies.

02:13:47.560 Uh, and I'm, I'm trying to work out, you know, the best way to bring more and more podcasts onto the scene that makes sense for everybody.

02:13:57.300 That's the biggest thing.

02:13:58.920 Um, but, uh, yeah, I'm just trying to create stuff.

02:14:02.960 So I'm a big, uh, Tim pool fan.

02:14:04.880 I, I enjoy, uh, watching Tim pool a lot.

02:14:08.520 Actually, I respect the guy a ton.

02:14:10.960 Um, and he always talks about, uh, changing culture and moving culture.

02:14:16.820 And when, when he started talking about that stuff and doing what he's doing, I was like, well, I'm not Tim pool, but I have a little, little podcast and a little media company.

02:14:32.100 Let me try.

02:14:32.740 So I'm sorry.

02:14:35.060 I'm losing it for a second.

02:14:35.900 Give me a second here.

02:14:36.640 Um, some water, dude, if I might interject, I do know Tim pool.

02:14:43.160 I do respect him for what he's built, but I think you're, uh, as far as moving culture, um, he's not a culture mover.

02:14:50.260 He's, uh, he's something else.

02:14:52.280 He's a big, great business dude, but you're doing it right.

02:14:54.960 From my vantage point, from my perspective, keep doing what I wouldn't as somebody who's been listening to Tim pool.

02:15:01.260 I don't look at you as being low in that situation at all.

02:15:06.320 Yeah.

02:15:06.600 Well, I appreciate that.

02:15:07.760 I, um, I've been to Tim pool's, uh, castle a few times now, and I'll be going back a few times this year for different things.

02:15:15.260 Mainly whenever we drop a film to do pop culture crisis, I imagine.

02:15:19.380 Um, but I, I got, I personally have a lot of respect for the guy.

02:15:22.780 Um, I like him a lot.

02:15:25.320 And so when he started doing that and talking about that and stuff, I was like, let me try.

02:15:28.940 And so I appreciate you guys saying that though.

02:15:30.900 Um, even though you're just saying that, you know, no, I'm not, um, I don't say anything.

02:15:35.060 I don't mean Tony.

02:15:36.000 That's true.

02:15:36.800 I, I, I do know that.

02:15:38.440 Uh, but, uh, all right, let's, let's wrap this thing up and, uh, lead us out in a prayer here.

02:15:43.960 Uh, heavenly father, thank you so much for having these guys invite me onto their show and, uh, just have a genuine conversation about whatever we came to our minds.

02:15:55.180 Uh, as per tradition, that's where you typically move the most is when you allow us as believers in you just to speak freely and let the Holy Spirit do what the Holy Spirit does.

02:16:10.340 And Lord, I trust that whatever was said today, uh, was done to glorify you and anything that might've been over the line that it was not of you, Lord.

02:16:22.340 I pray that you delete, delete that from people's memories.

02:16:25.240 So it doesn't do anything, um, of ill will towards you and your kingdom building, Lord.

02:16:31.220 Uh, thank you for the opportunity to speak to their audience.

02:16:35.160 Thank you for these two guys coming and listening to my show and starting their show.

02:16:40.660 Uh, Lord, the ripple effect is astounding.

02:16:43.880 And I pray that those who have planted seeds and through stones in the water that the ripples hit me and started me off on this journey.

02:16:53.620 And now I'm doing the same that they do the same for the next generation, Lord.

02:16:57.460 And, and that this ripple effect just keeps going further and further out and that there are shows that are just too many that we can count that we can't even count them all that have, uh, some kind of stemming from shows that came well before me.

02:17:12.580 Lord, I pray that throughout all that, that you're glorified in one way or another, we don't need to do it the way it's always been done.

02:17:22.480 We're learning that, and we're just being open vessels for you, that you come and use us the way you want to use us for the generation that's before us.

02:17:31.580 Now, help us understand the generation that's before us now.

02:17:35.080 And so that we can deeper impact their lives, reach them so that more people can come to you.

02:17:41.460 And that ultimately we have an army for those end of days, your name.

02:17:47.420 I pray.

02:17:48.020 Amen.

02:17:49.120 Amen.

02:17:50.100 Tony, I'm going to tell you something right now.

02:17:52.480 I'm not kidding you.

02:17:56.380 Right at the end there.

02:17:59.660 I, it got, did, did it look bright on the, I don't know if anybody was watching.

02:18:04.940 No, like I noticed the light fluctuation.

02:18:08.960 Did you notice that?

02:18:10.380 I did notice the light fluctuation.

02:18:12.580 David, you piece of crap, David, you had your eyes open during the prayer.

02:18:16.240 Incredible.

02:18:16.940 I had my eyes closed, but I could, I could sense that it was getting brighter.

02:18:20.220 I thought my, my, my light was getting funky.

02:18:22.160 Hey, let's look at the chat.

02:18:23.120 Did they see that?

02:18:24.880 Did anybody see that?

02:18:26.280 That's incredible.

02:18:27.300 I kind of, I kind of, I kind of wrapped it up because I wanted to see, like, I, I got shivers.

02:18:33.340 Like, I thought it was my light.

02:18:34.840 I thought my light was getting screwed up.

02:18:36.420 I got shivers because I was like, oh my gosh, there's an angel in my presence.

02:18:40.500 Like, I literally, it got, like, my eyes are closed and it got so bright behind my eyelids.

02:18:49.280 I was like, there's something lighting up the room right now.

02:18:52.580 Wow.

02:18:52.820 Oh, that's so wild.

02:18:54.160 That's so wild.

02:18:55.540 Wow.

02:18:55.900 That's incredible.

02:18:56.160 That's incredible.

02:18:58.220 I don't even know how to end this.

02:19:00.480 I had, I, I don't know.

02:19:01.980 I don't know.

02:19:02.640 I don't know.

02:19:03.100 I'm glad you had that experience too, because that, that was like, I wanted to, like, I wanted to wrap it up, open my eyes and be like, what's up, Michael?

02:19:11.400 You know, this is my, my, my thought process was my light is doing a thing.

02:19:17.240 And then I kind of, man, I don't even want to say, I know we say crazy shit on this show all the time, but I felt like my face, I felt like I was going to be touched on my face.

02:19:26.920 Whoa.

02:19:27.860 Like, I, I, it, it shivered me to the point that I was nervous.

02:19:32.360 I was nervous.

02:19:33.660 I, I, I, I was, wow.

02:19:37.240 Man, that's wild.

02:19:39.920 All right, guys.

02:19:40.800 Thanks for listening.

02:19:42.000 Yeah.

02:19:42.800 We'll see.

02:19:43.560 I guess we'll see you next week.

02:19:44.780 Thank you, Tony.

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02:21:18.400 Wow, what an incredible episode from start to finish.

02:21:22.540 Wow, what an incredible episode.

02:21:24.240 We didn't watch the episode, guys.

02:21:26.240 We just have the show notes.

02:21:28.140 I think it's mainly my fault, Top.

02:21:29.680 I think Top, if he wanted to sit down and watch this episode, he would do it, but I can't do it.

02:21:36.540 I can't go back and listen to myself, especially not from a year ago.

02:21:39.640 But we do have the show notes here.

02:21:42.060 And so, you know, I think we're going to get into a little bit about.

02:21:45.900 I have some sympathy for that.

02:21:47.760 Like, because it's very hard to sit through just an episode listening to your voice or just, I mean, a phone call.

02:21:52.780 This is the constant phone call.

02:21:54.300 Yes, yes, this is the constant.

02:21:55.760 And I think I'm brutally aware more so than other people about how agitating I am.

02:22:01.620 I find myself more agitating than most people do.

02:22:04.040 So I cannot.

02:22:05.020 It's like Chinese water.

02:22:06.480 He does it on purpose.

02:22:07.720 It's an admission.

02:22:08.660 Anyway, listen, this is episode 21 with Tony Merkel.

02:22:11.720 This was a big deal for us because at the time we weren't doing anything.

02:22:17.000 Let me see what we what were we doing around that period infancy.

02:22:20.800 We were just little baby, little baby Nephilim hunters.

02:22:24.360 Let's see.

02:22:24.980 We had just talked to PJ of Conspiracy Pilled.

02:22:29.220 We have.

02:22:31.080 We were a couple of episodes away from L.A. Marzulli, so we were kind of really getting into the swing of things.

02:22:36.600 Yeah, we thought we were hot shit.

02:22:37.680 We had L.A. Marzulli coming up.

02:22:39.440 We had Gary.

02:22:40.140 Actually, Gary Wayne is an episode we should re-air.

02:22:43.020 And then I would also like to talk to Gary Wayne again.

02:22:46.100 Very much so.

02:22:47.560 But I don't think he liked us.

02:22:48.540 But, yeah, I'd like to talk to him again.

02:22:50.180 This was with Tony.

02:22:51.740 This was somebody who is is responsible in a in a, you know, no small way for inspiring us to do a show like this.

02:22:59.480 Because this is somebody whose content we both absorb to this day, still really enjoy Tony Merkel's show, The Confessionals.

02:23:06.540 And it played a big role in motivating me to do what we're doing now.

02:23:10.540 So I remember, you know, it was so early, this episode 21.

02:23:15.400 I remember this being a really big deal.

02:23:18.200 Yeah, for us it was a big deal.

02:23:19.820 And then he also gave us like, so David was like, I was like, let's re-watch it.

02:23:25.600 And you're like, oh, I don't want to re-watch it.

02:23:28.180 I don't really care.

02:23:29.480 And I'm like, all right, well, then I'll send you show notes.

02:23:31.960 And he's looking at the show notes.

02:23:33.060 And I'm looking at him, too.

02:23:33.900 And I was like, I don't remember any of this shit.

02:23:36.680 What he said.

02:23:37.400 But what we talked about.

02:23:38.380 What we do remember is the stuff that we talked about after the podcast.

02:23:41.340 Because when the podcast cuts, we talked for another an hour and a half, I'd say, with Tony.

02:23:47.920 And look, we can't just mull over the fact that the way this episode ended, a lot of people are coming straight off the back of hearing Tony end our episode with a prayer.

02:23:57.240 And then me and him kind of freaking out because we saw the room get lighter, which is very true.

02:24:03.280 And as we said in the tail end there, I didn't even want to bring that up because I felt schizo about it.

02:24:09.440 I was like, you know, as we're praying, as my eyes are closed, I'm like, did the room just get real bright?

02:24:14.220 So when he said it, I was relieved.

02:24:15.820 I was like, let him take the crazy baton and run with it.

02:24:18.600 And I don't know, you know, I thought it was a great moment, honestly.

02:24:23.020 And I do think that, you know, we said it was a big deal to have Tony.

02:24:28.200 It was equally as big of a deal, I think, to have ended on that prayer.

02:24:32.340 That was a big deal.

02:24:33.280 For me, it was a big deal.

02:24:34.200 And it felt like a big moment for the show.

02:24:36.060 I think we've done that once now since, right?

02:24:40.460 We did it with somebody recently.

02:24:41.920 Who would that have been?

02:24:42.800 I think that was Brian of Demon Eracers.

02:24:44.580 That's right.

02:24:46.720 After the Christmas episode, I believe.

02:24:48.580 Yes.

02:24:49.000 Yeah.

02:24:49.380 Not often something that we do, but when it does happen, it is really nice.

02:24:53.880 And so it's not something I like to like, it's not to say I like I'm against prayer.

02:25:00.500 I just don't want, I'm keenly aware that this is not church, what we're doing here.

02:25:06.620 It's also not a substitute for it.

02:25:08.820 We talk a lot of crap about church.

02:25:10.700 And I think in this episode, we talk about some of the, not the downfalls of the church,

02:25:15.400 but like the ways in which they've kind of dropped the ball and not address the supernatural

02:25:20.860 aspect of things to the degree that they should, at least.

02:25:24.260 Right.

02:25:24.360 I know Tony does, he still does go to church every week or so.

02:25:29.940 But yeah, anyway, so like I try not to, this is not a substitute for church, obviously.

02:25:35.180 This is like a, this is something else.

02:25:38.160 It's a supplement.

02:25:38.880 A supplementation, a supplementation.

02:25:40.320 Yes.

02:25:40.760 Yeah.

02:25:41.020 Yeah.

02:25:41.420 So like asking somebody to do prayer here.

02:25:43.920 Also, I know that like the audience that comes here might not be all completely Christian

02:25:49.420 and that's fine.

02:25:50.580 That's actually great.

02:25:51.380 Like, cause we're not, I'm not interested in talking to only us, you know, I'm not, I

02:25:54.740 don't want to preach to the choir.

02:25:56.660 Right.

02:25:56.860 So we're, we're talking to a lot of people.

02:25:58.580 Um, but it felt fitting at the end of this episode because of what we spoke about.

02:26:04.280 I think, especially with the spiritual attack where we were like, we were aware of it and

02:26:10.620 we were kind of, we understood what it was, but I think Tony was going through it at a much

02:26:15.420 higher level.

02:26:16.320 And he was like, these retards need some prayer.

02:26:18.720 I just, no, I had asked him, I was like, Hey, would you mind?

02:26:21.860 And he was like, that's actually a good idea.

02:26:23.440 Um, yeah, I thought it was great because I, you know, as somebody who wasn't raised

02:26:27.880 religion, uh, religious, I don't, there's not a lot of times where I'm in a public scenario

02:26:33.700 praying.

02:26:35.320 Um, and not that that was a public scenario, obviously we're all on camera and we're all

02:26:39.440 sitting comfortably in our homes or in our office, but, uh, it just felt like it had

02:26:44.900 that element, something that I wouldn't typically do, but was happy to engage with, uh, because

02:26:50.040 how many opportunities do you have to close a show, um, praying with, with Tony Merkel?

02:26:54.080 That was huge.

02:26:54.700 So, uh, but yeah, we did go on to discuss, honestly, a lot of inside baseball stuff after

02:27:01.860 this episode ended.

02:27:03.700 And what was interesting about that was we had this little peek into Tony's world as a

02:27:09.340 professional, as somebody who's executing this, um, on a much higher level than we are

02:27:14.640 and who's built something pretty substantial.

02:27:18.300 And I think what is interesting without giving too much away is, um, he made no illusions about

02:27:25.640 the level of stress that comes with what it is he's doing and what we here are, are soon

02:27:31.600 undertaking, um, trying to pursue a sort of top lobster productions, uh, a network, um, it's

02:27:39.540 not going to be an easy task.

02:27:40.780 And in, in that moment, having that discussion with him about kind of the, the finer details

02:27:46.040 of what it's like to do that, I really appreciated that because I've always known we're moving

02:27:52.060 towards this and we get this really interesting look, um, to our peers as far as how they've

02:27:58.780 done it.

02:27:59.000 How did Tony Merkel do it?

02:28:01.040 Um, you know, how is Luke Rutkowski doing it?

02:28:03.000 How is Sam Tripoli doing it?

02:28:04.600 And these are people who are really influential in our space.

02:28:08.500 How is Luis J Gomez doing it?

02:28:10.460 Yeah.

02:28:10.620 It's like, it's, these are questions that we get to ask these people.

02:28:14.720 I mean, since we haven't been able to really talk to us, I think he, I think he doesn't

02:28:18.000 like us anymore, which is fine.

02:28:20.100 Also understandable.

02:28:21.320 Understand, completely understandable.

02:28:22.860 Yeah.

02:28:22.960 I was like, whenever somebody talks to us at that level, I'm like, why the hell are they

02:28:25.740 talking to us?

02:28:26.340 And then they like, they get to know us and they're like, these guys are doing, you know,

02:28:29.560 tower gang, whatever is like, no, some of them are smart enough to never talk to us

02:28:33.440 again.

02:28:33.740 And then other ones, they keep, some are smart enough to not talk initially.

02:28:38.040 Uh, Tony was not one of those people.

02:28:40.020 Yes.

02:28:40.220 Tony made the mistake, but, uh, fool me once, shame on you fool Tony twice.

02:28:44.340 It's not happening apparently.

02:28:45.700 So, uh, you know, but it is really valuable to see a guy like, cause Tony, you know, as

02:28:52.200 far as, um, taking this, this model, right.

02:28:56.060 Of like truth dissemination and exploration into this sort of a thing.

02:29:00.980 And also having this Christian world lens, um, he's doing it.

02:29:05.400 He's one of the people in the space.

02:29:06.280 I would argue it's like him and blurry creatures are doing it to the highest level.

02:29:09.640 So really a beautiful moment to be able to sit back and, um, you know, he was really

02:29:14.520 gracious.

02:29:14.900 He, he shared with us, um, like he was an old homie, you know, and, and I really appreciated

02:29:20.940 that.

02:29:21.400 And it gave me a lot to think about.

02:29:23.100 And here we are almost a year later.

02:29:25.840 What month was this top that we, that we did this episode with Tony?

02:29:28.700 Let's go back and see.

02:29:29.580 I think I have it pulled up right here.

02:29:32.500 Nope.

02:29:32.900 I got it.

02:29:33.400 I'm missing it.

02:29:34.020 Oh, here we go.

02:29:34.700 Uh, would have been January.

02:29:36.600 Yeah.

02:29:36.900 Wow.

02:29:37.520 January, January 11th.

02:29:38.920 So here we are almost a year exactly from the day that we talked to Tony Merkel and we

02:29:44.620 are on the cusp ourselves of trying to build something that, um, hopefully would be comparable

02:29:49.980 someday.

02:29:50.440 And you know what?

02:29:52.080 We should, we should just email one more time and be like, Hey, because it's, I think

02:29:57.440 Tony's one of the people where I would still, Hey, I love you.

02:30:00.100 Hey, I love you.

02:30:01.160 I know you did.

02:30:02.260 No, it's like, I guess it kind of wears off after a while where you're like, who do we

02:30:06.680 got today?

02:30:07.140 And then you look at the calendar and you're like, okay, we got this guy.

02:30:09.920 It could be a big name.

02:30:10.820 You're like, all right, whatever.

02:30:12.280 We're going to go and do this show.

02:30:13.540 What are we, what are we talking about?

02:30:14.500 But I'd be excited for Tony Merkel.

02:30:16.200 I remember sitting right here where I was, I'm talking to Tony and actually my wife comes

02:30:20.680 in at, this is after the show.

02:30:22.540 And she's like, what are you doing?

02:30:23.740 And I'm like, and she looks at the screen and she's like, oh, that's Tony Merkel.

02:30:26.900 And I was like, and then she leaves.

02:30:28.860 She's like, okay, do whatever you got to do.

02:30:30.240 So, cause it was like, it was a big deal.

02:30:31.960 So this episode, I, maybe we'll actually go back and re-listen to it.

02:30:36.600 This is so disingenuous with our audience.

02:30:38.500 No, no, I don't think it is.

02:30:39.620 I mean, we have the, the, the show notes and we know what we talked about more, more or less.

02:30:43.640 We used, we used the devil to run AI through the transcript.

02:30:47.400 And we looked at the show notes.

02:30:48.600 It told us nothing.

02:30:49.480 As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure this is an, some kind of ritualistic incantation

02:30:53.500 that it gave us.

02:30:54.060 It has to be.

02:30:54.620 It has to be.

02:30:55.240 Yeah.

02:30:55.420 And look, I know that to a degree, what we, what we brought Tony on to talk about was

02:31:00.060 this unfolding scenario that, that has been exposed now to have its roots in Indiana.

02:31:05.900 This is now something that we're pursuing ourselves.

02:31:08.680 It's funny because we consider doing a documentary and we might do a documentary

02:31:13.260 on this situation in Indiana where these people are speaking to ball.

02:31:17.460 Of course, uh, many of you are familiar with Colin, uh, one of our own, uh, friends

02:31:22.260 of the show.

02:31:22.900 So I guess chronologically a month before, so December 6th, we had interviewed Colin and

02:31:27.820 I had been talking with him about this stuff for a while.

02:31:29.680 So when Tony came on, uh, I had questions about his recently released episodes with, uh,

02:31:36.900 Roy.

02:31:37.460 It was, I think it's called, uh, something darker.

02:31:40.540 He has like his own section on his podcast for it.

02:31:44.160 You know what I'm talking about, right?

02:31:45.180 It's like three episodes because it's part of this bigger overarching story that he's

02:31:49.540 uncovering.

02:31:50.180 We had came to the table initially with like this idea of what Colin was doing.

02:31:54.640 And I'm like, I wanted to know more about, uh, Roy and these details.

02:31:59.740 He didn't tell us much more detail about it because it's like, it's very sensitive.

02:32:04.620 Yeah, we tried to trade and we said, Hey, we'll trade you this guy who's got a piece

02:32:08.280 of the puzzle and you give us some more puzzle pieces.

02:32:11.160 And Tony said, I'll take that guy.

02:32:12.880 You'll be getting no information from me.

02:32:14.720 And so we made a, what I would argue is a fair trade.

02:32:18.120 And I trade deal.

02:32:20.680 You get, you get, yeah, exactly.

02:32:22.860 And it, but it didn't happen at all.

02:32:24.560 Um, but Colin did go on to be on, on Tony's show.

02:32:28.300 And Tony did recognize it as an integral part of this bigger story that he's telling.

02:32:32.780 So, um, in that way, you know, we're still kind of parallel with, with Tony, as far as

02:32:39.200 our research and everything.

02:32:40.160 And I think that's always going to be the case just because, um, it's where we've settled

02:32:44.620 on this idea of like the biblical world, the biblical lens being the appropriate lens

02:32:48.420 through which to see our world.

02:32:50.620 And, uh, but now it's, it's, um, it's really evolved into something else where I guess since

02:32:59.480 we did this episode, the question was, is there some sort of coming war?

02:33:06.520 Um, and is there something going on underground with like the throne room of ball?

02:33:10.040 Now we've gotten to the point where it's like, it seems like it's impending.

02:33:13.360 I imagine that this, this incoming war scenario has something to do with the UAP UFO situation

02:33:20.260 that we seem to be on the cusp of, which very well could go away.

02:33:23.060 We talk about that all the time, right?

02:33:24.400 Top brings up the, um, battle of LA and how that just sort of dissolved into nothingness,

02:33:30.680 but we do see how it's on the cusp of something.

02:33:32.820 It's going away right now with, uh, immigration.

02:33:34.980 I think Luke Rudkowski actually nailed it, which we need to reach out to him because we'll

02:33:38.600 be in Miami, uh, in January.

02:33:41.240 Maybe we can go hit him up.

02:33:42.820 But, uh, did, did you see what he said about it?

02:33:44.960 He said something about the drones having disappeared from the public awareness, more or less I'm paraphrasing,

02:33:50.240 but yeah, he's, he's right about that.

02:33:52.160 Now it is still happening, but as far as like the larger viral conversation, it's not happening

02:33:57.880 on that stage anymore, but it is still happening behind the scenes.

02:34:01.000 I I'm just waiting for another big moment to pop up and for everybody to become enamored

02:34:04.780 with it again.

02:34:05.300 But well, what's, what's happening.

02:34:06.840 I don't think it's going to pop back up again, but there's a new phenomenon.

02:34:10.340 And again, this is just like beating the, beating this thing to death, but there's been

02:34:14.320 three plane crashes in the last day.

02:34:16.900 And, uh, it's like, these things just don't happen.

02:34:20.960 Planes are just going down and no one's really paying attention.

02:34:23.600 There was also some video you posted with, uh, I think you watched it on timeline cleanse

02:34:27.200 as well, right?

02:34:28.040 The one where the orb transforms into the guy on the plane, Chinese guy.

02:34:33.200 Yeah.

02:34:33.600 That was really weird.

02:34:34.540 So we had like our second appearance of, uh, that, uh, mother effort is not real.

02:34:39.500 Right.

02:34:39.980 You know, the, the lady from the plane, uh, that B that went viral became a bit of a meme.

02:34:44.020 Now we have that happening again on a, uh, what looks to be like a Chinese airline and

02:34:48.860 the guy that's on the plane, that's freaking out.

02:34:51.040 If you are to take the subtitles at face value is complaining that there are, he's in the

02:34:56.860 presence of, of subterranean dwelling creatures.

02:35:00.920 I believe it's like some of the language that he used something about subterranean under

02:35:04.300 the ground.

02:35:05.360 Um, and then he goes on to say that whatever is going to happen to this flight, he thinks

02:35:09.940 something is going to happen to the flight is going to be like Malaysian airlines and

02:35:13.720 MH three 70.

02:35:15.240 He also is complaining about being stuck in a loop, a time loop.

02:35:19.640 So he's saying I'm stuck in a time loop.

02:35:21.620 There's an entity on this plane and this is what's about to happen to this plane.

02:35:25.040 We're about to get MH three 70, right?

02:35:26.720 Malaysian airline, uh, uh, MH three 70.

02:35:29.660 So yeah, very strange.

02:35:31.140 And then another one came out.

02:35:32.180 Um, I saw it this morning, a black lady on a plane, just freaking out, screaming.

02:35:37.440 Um, I don't know if she's saying everybody's going to die or something like that.

02:35:40.760 So yeah, we get back to back moments that are, uh, you know, somehow resembling that woman

02:35:46.920 from over the summer, whatever it was last year, sometime that went viral.

02:35:51.060 So I don't know what's going on.

02:35:53.020 I imagine these things play together pretty well because if you have the UAP thing, the

02:35:57.600 UFO thing, if it's really happening and it's beyond drones and it's a zero point technology

02:36:01.680 thing, and if you're asking Ashton Forbes, that zero point technology thing is what plays

02:36:06.840 in exactly to the Malaysian airline thing.

02:36:09.000 So now that we have somebody on the planes complaining about, you know, uh, subterranean

02:36:14.180 entities, MH three 70 and a time loop, all these things, I think there's a lot of connective

02:36:20.360 tissue there.

02:36:20.940 I don't think that they're separate.

02:36:21.900 And so who knows?

02:36:22.920 It's like this thing we were talking about with Tony a year ago, we might be seeing the

02:36:28.840 beginning of the show, uh, where we sit here now, January or, uh, December 29th, 2024.

02:36:35.940 So it's interesting to have talked to this guy so long ago and for the, the, the conversation

02:36:43.540 to be so relevant to what we're experiencing today.

02:36:46.620 We never really deviated from those interests.

02:36:49.260 Um, yeah, it's even though like this conversation, although it may seem dated, maybe some of the

02:36:55.820 things we did talk about that were current events at the time, this is a year ago, the

02:36:59.340 solutions that he, that he does propose were, uh, well, they're timeless.

02:37:03.720 They're ones that are almost like boring because you can go and you can listen to almost anybody

02:37:09.620 say this, that's preaching the good word throughout time, but they're true.

02:37:13.840 Yeah.

02:37:14.240 And it's like, they're true for a reason.

02:37:15.760 So you just talked about getting caught in a time loop with an entity on a plane and

02:37:19.100 it's like, well, how do I avoid that?

02:37:21.640 And one of Tony's quotes here is like, he's saying, uh, prayer, isn't just words.

02:37:26.140 It's a declaration of spiritual authority.

02:37:28.700 When you claim your space in Jesus name, no darkness can remain.

02:37:32.600 And it's like, we've heard this now so many times on this show over and over and over,

02:37:38.780 especially from like Ed Mabry, we're talking about actually saying these things out loud.

02:37:43.520 And, uh, John Lenhart, where he's talking about how the spiritual, the spiritual world

02:37:49.700 interacts with the physical world.

02:37:51.520 And when you're speaking, actually speaking, it's something different.

02:37:55.360 Even, even more recently, um, I forget where, who was talking about this, but, uh, the idea

02:38:01.360 of telepathy was coming up again.

02:38:03.020 Did you come across this?

02:38:04.520 So Rogan was talking about it.

02:38:06.520 I reached out to the, the owners of the podcast.

02:38:10.600 Um, there's a podcast called telepathy tapes that seems to have skyrocketed to the most

02:38:15.440 successful podcast all overnight.

02:38:17.780 And, um, it had a lot to do with Joe Rogan mentioning them.

02:38:21.800 And so this is, and honestly, I know a lot of people are going to get upset about this,

02:38:25.940 but, um, okay.

02:38:29.760 So, so basically this, there's podcasters that are, I guess they're practicing telepathy

02:38:34.260 and they're telling you the developments over time.

02:38:36.240 And apparently whatever it is, it's so captivating and interesting that it's gotten Joe Rogan

02:38:39.560 to, uh, mention it.

02:38:41.120 Now I might be misrepresenting it, but that seemed to be the gist of it to me.

02:38:44.560 And he was talking with Duncan Trussell.

02:38:46.600 Yeah.

02:38:46.780 He's talking to Duncan Trussell.

02:38:47.780 And I just want to say, I'll be damned if I'm going to let these white women over on

02:38:51.360 telepathy tapes, take telepathy.

02:38:53.280 If there is telepathy to be had, I'm going to start exploring it.

02:38:55.940 And I know, and I'm going to ask Jesus Christ to please guide me and make sure that I'm

02:38:58.940 not, um, doing telepathy via the aid of demons.

02:39:03.520 But I am like, if it's on the table and we're exploring this now, um, I got to start trying

02:39:08.700 to move tinfoil.

02:39:09.620 I got to start trying to move, you know, paper balls, things like that.

02:39:12.720 And I'm going to start recording this.

02:39:14.300 Um, and we're going to do, you know what, dude, you know what, dude, I know people are

02:39:17.400 going to, cause it's not very Christian.

02:39:18.580 We're going to do, uh, telepathy chronicles, right?

02:39:21.440 I'm going to do an entire telepathy episode where we just look at you like this.

02:39:25.140 Just, that's it.

02:39:26.320 We're going to do the whole thing telepathic.

02:39:28.000 Wait, wait, do it right now.

02:39:29.000 Ready?

02:39:34.960 I hope they play a Chumba casino ad right there.

02:39:37.280 It would be a good one.

02:39:38.280 A Chumba casino.

02:39:39.800 Chumba casino.

02:39:42.260 Dude, but, but so, so yeah, I don't know what it is.

02:39:45.060 Telepathy is suddenly now a part of the bigger conversation.

02:39:48.400 Um, I do think I'm going to try it.

02:39:50.000 Cause you know, those videos that we love to watch of like black people using wind power.

02:39:52.920 Um, I think I'm going to start doing it and I think I'm going to do a daily update and

02:39:56.800 we're going to see the development of my powers over time.

02:39:59.380 Um, because I'll be damned if I'm going to let telepathy tape, take it and run away with

02:40:02.780 it.

02:40:02.920 Why would I not do that?

02:40:03.560 Anyway, the point of this is that we figured out that telepathy is gay.

02:40:06.780 It's a, the reason that, that it's used is because they can't, they can't, uh, prophesy.

02:40:12.420 They can't speak physical physically.

02:40:14.800 Well, that, that's so, so, um, yeah, telepathic communication.

02:40:19.880 Right, right.

02:40:20.220 So they can't prophesy.

02:40:21.040 They can't speak.

02:40:21.620 Yeah.

02:40:21.820 Because you have to do it for them.

02:40:23.560 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

02:40:24.880 And maybe like telepathy seems like a form of consent.

02:40:27.120 Again, it's always just gay consent.

02:40:29.200 Wait.

02:40:29.480 Yeah.

02:40:29.720 So I was conflating telepathy with, I don't want telepathy.

02:40:33.020 I want telekinesis.

02:40:33.880 That's what I meant.

02:40:34.480 I've been doing the wrong, the wrong word the entire time.

02:40:36.320 You want to bend spoons.

02:40:37.600 I want to bend spoons.

02:40:38.480 Yeah.

02:40:38.880 I want to do stuff like that.

02:40:39.840 The conversation around telepathy is it, anyway, so this is like, again, what we're talking

02:40:44.000 about here, where he's talking about, it's not just words.

02:40:45.900 You're declaring something into a spirit, into spiritual authority.

02:40:49.520 You're, you're speaking it.

02:40:50.980 This is the way God judges spiritual entities.

02:40:52.980 So Tony was on that, like right off the bat.

02:40:56.600 He was also talking about his, uh, some of his, uh, personal, I think he even got more

02:41:02.960 personal after the show, which we won't mention, but the spiritual attacks that he's had.

02:41:07.000 And I think since he's come on the confessionals and said, uh, about these, these three shadowed

02:41:11.940 guys that followed him to his house and he's, Tony seemed a little bit, uh, freaked out.

02:41:17.680 Like his descent from not into madness, but his descent into paranoia from this episode

02:41:23.960 shortly after when that kind of, that stuff happens and more stuff happened, it was a

02:41:28.740 steep drop off and I don't blame him.

02:41:30.780 I think he cut off a lot of like cut off a lot of people around him.

02:41:33.900 He's like, I'm staying, keeping this thing tight.

02:41:35.620 And I get it.

02:41:36.740 Like he almost got attacked in his office by some dude that was possessed by the spirit

02:41:41.240 of Lilith.

02:41:41.720 Yeah, that's right.

02:41:42.260 That's right.

02:41:42.700 I don't know if it was the spirit of Lilith, but I remember what you're talking about.

02:41:44.840 Yeah.

02:41:45.140 And, and, um, he was, he was feeling real rage, real, he was feeling like he was going

02:41:50.580 to do something.

02:41:51.820 Yeah.

02:41:52.020 And Tony actually had to ask him, he was like, Hey, do me a favor, take your gun out of your

02:41:54.780 pocket, put it on the table.

02:41:56.400 You know, like that kind of a shit, uh, because it was getting so oddly intense.

02:42:00.060 Tony had to take some precautions in order to protect himself.

02:42:02.340 But look, I mean, uh, I think if there was anybody that was under spiritual warfare in

02:42:08.980 a more dire sense, in the sense of like these negative entities having to defend themselves

02:42:14.040 because somebody's on the trail, I think it would be Tony Merkel.

02:42:16.880 It would be Tony Merkel because, you know, he has made it his professional interest to

02:42:23.340 delve into things that most other people they stopped short of as far as like exploring the

02:42:29.220 paranormal.

02:42:30.520 And, you know, Tony's going out there and engaging in spiritual warfare, uh, engaging

02:42:35.780 in these spiritual warfare prayers out in these areas where these entities are suspected

02:42:41.320 to be like, that's a wild thing.

02:42:43.700 You could take Bigfoot hunters and you could put them out in the forest and they're going

02:42:46.100 to knock on some trees with some logs and they're going to make some whooping sounds.

02:42:50.180 But if you put Tony Merkel in the forest, um, and it's a area where they're suspected to

02:42:56.140 be some sort of entity cryptid, what have you, he's going out there with like an AR-15 and

02:43:01.440 he's praying.

02:43:02.140 I think this was the episode afterward.

02:43:04.780 He told us, so he was still using his old logo at this time.

02:43:08.040 Yeah.

02:43:08.460 And he told us afterward, or maybe he called me.

02:43:11.600 I don't remember, but no, I remember this.

02:43:13.620 Yeah.

02:43:14.120 Yeah.

02:43:14.320 He said, he's like, Oh, I have a new logo.

02:43:16.100 It's going to be cool.

02:43:16.860 And we, again, we like, we were just like basically pressing him and like, do you, you

02:43:21.460 got to tell us, you got to tell us.

02:43:23.100 Yeah.

02:43:23.360 Yeah.

02:43:23.640 And afterward he's like, well, this is what the logo is going to be.

02:43:26.100 And, and it's like, like it's a six finger.

02:43:28.300 He said the logo would be something, a sign that was left for him when he was looking in

02:43:32.300 the, in the forest on the side of the house.

02:43:34.420 I think it was left.

02:43:35.420 Yeah.

02:43:35.640 On the side of the house, like an imprint.

02:43:37.060 So that hand with the six fingers was left on the side of the house and he used it as

02:43:41.020 his logo.

02:43:41.760 So it's like, damn dude, that's a crazy colon card.

02:43:44.020 But yeah, that's the guy, the guy is incredible.

02:43:47.440 He's one of the podcasts that I listened to every week.

02:43:49.840 This and tinfoil hat every week, uh, twice a week, at least, or whenever it drops is what

02:43:55.820 I'm listening to valuable information.

02:43:58.260 And the guy, by the way, still inspiring us because what we're doing is, you know, when

02:44:04.860 you're trying to do something, you, you often look to who's got a model down that works and

02:44:09.800 what can you borrow from that model?

02:44:12.300 What's intelligent, you know?

02:44:13.760 Um, and Tony's done a lot of really smart things is in, in regards to creating this.

02:44:19.440 Um, it's not just podcasts, what he's doing over at the confessionals.

02:44:23.260 Uh, he's doing a lot more than that.

02:44:24.840 He was doing documentaries and such, and he's building this community.

02:44:27.400 And, um, I think that in very many ways, his model is an intelligent one and we have borrowed

02:44:35.980 a lot of elements from it.

02:44:37.200 And, um, and I think that's natural, right?

02:44:39.960 In any field that you get into, you emulate the people that you, uh, you admire.

02:44:44.380 And so, um, very much of what we're doing here at, I guess, what is now Top Lobster Productions,

02:44:51.660 um, was inspired and we're going to do things differently, obviously, but there's,

02:44:57.400 there's no way to, yeah, there's no way to say the degree to which somebody like a Tony

02:45:01.640 Merkel or a Sam Tripoli has inspired us to do what we're doing here.

02:45:05.160 It is a, it's an interesting thing.

02:45:07.020 More, more inside baseball.

02:45:08.260 I guess we'll wrap it up here.

02:45:09.260 But like, I remember conversations where like almost probing with Tony and he's kind of like,

02:45:14.700 you guys say a lot of racial slurs.

02:45:17.660 And I was like, yeah, I can't, I can't stop who I am.

02:45:21.540 You know, I was like, so Tony can't do that.

02:45:24.320 Um, and he shouldn't because it's not, it's not his thing.

02:45:27.760 And it's probably to our detriment, our growth, but I'm not really, you know, I can only grow,

02:45:33.820 I can only grow as much as I can in a certain direction.

02:45:36.420 I can't fit.

02:45:37.240 And I can only be who I am.

02:45:38.800 Yeah.

02:45:39.000 If I, if I'm not who I am, then I end up like Tim Poole or realistically you don't end up like

02:45:44.100 Tim Poole because you don't get approached by the feds at wall street.

02:45:47.440 Right.

02:45:47.900 And, uh, you know, get to subvert a movement and then get a podcast and whatever.

02:45:51.860 That's a whole nother thing.

02:45:53.160 Um, but you just basic, your fans, your fans listen to you and they go, that's not real.

02:46:00.160 And then they can go choose anything.

02:46:02.000 There's tons of people out there.

02:46:03.800 Like we just, this episode will be, uh, preceded by one of the people that if we

02:46:08.940 do sound like we're selling out or sound like shit later, go listen to his podcast,

02:46:13.880 go check out Brad Lail, go check out, uh, you know, great pill podcast.

02:46:18.300 There's a, there's a bunch of other people out there.

02:46:20.500 Uh, so yeah.

02:46:21.480 But I think that's it.

02:46:22.160 You can never, you're never going to listen to it.

02:46:23.460 You might listen to us and say, you know, that we're offensive or abrasive or what have

02:46:28.800 you, but you're never going to listen to us and say that we're not genuine.

02:46:32.380 And that's it.

02:46:33.460 That's just who we are.

02:46:34.500 So like, if we, if we do something different, I don't know.

02:46:37.760 It's just never who I was, you know, right, right, right.

02:46:40.840 So, um, I hope you guys enjoy this episode.

02:46:43.200 It's interesting to revisit these, these, uh, you know, these episodes in, in hindsight

02:46:48.900 here nearly a year later.

02:46:51.440 Um, yeah, maybe we'll watch it.

02:46:53.700 Probably not, probably not going to watch it.

02:46:55.360 Uh, but, but I can reflect in the meantime.

02:46:57.560 And I do think that, um, there's a lot of stuff that we didn't realize back in episode

02:47:03.700 21 that was going to just be integral to the entire operation here.

02:47:09.860 You know, like I said, we're gearing up, uh, it seems like we might be doing a documentary

02:47:14.460 out in Indiana and we might be trying to present this information about people going to different

02:47:22.340 realms, being solicited to, you know, sign up for an army, uh, go through a recruitment

02:47:28.140 process, potentially meeting ball underground, uh, we're going to be doing a documentary

02:47:34.280 on this.

02:47:34.800 So I wouldn't have known that top, you know, episode 21.

02:47:38.520 If you said, we're going to do a documentary on this, I'd be like, let's just, we just had

02:47:41.320 Tony Merkel on, let's slow down.

02:47:42.860 I don't know if we're going to do a documentary.

02:47:44.220 Yeah.

02:47:44.440 This was like, does it get any better than this?

02:47:46.880 I was like, Oh, well, I guess so.

02:47:49.820 Huh?

02:47:50.220 Because we did a lot.

02:47:52.060 We've done a lot of things since then.

02:47:53.920 Um, who knows?

02:47:54.600 Maybe we can get Tony Merkel out to the next Bohemian Grove.

02:47:57.420 Uh, doubt it.

02:47:58.240 I doubt it.

02:47:58.780 But hey, Dick on the screen last, last, uh, Bohemian Grove.

02:48:01.820 I don't think stranger things have happened.

02:48:03.480 Yeah, it's true.

02:48:04.700 It's true.

02:48:05.280 All right, guys.

02:48:05.840 Well, uh, I hope you enjoyed the show and, uh, I'm going to play the outro music.

02:48:10.960 Bye.

02:48:11.760 Bye.

02:48:12.000 The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

02:48:17.740 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

02:48:21.920 If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see,

02:48:26.980 to come.

02:48:28.200 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.

02:48:34.960 And they have.

Nephilim Death Squad - December 29, 2024

TIME CAPSULE： 021 - Spiritual Warfare w⧸ Tony Merkel

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