Nephilim Death Squad - TIME CAPSULE - 034： Have the Nephilim Stolen our Birthright？ w⧸ Timothy Alberino

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00:02:43.280 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:02:49.240 Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers. 0.99

00:02:53.100 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:03:02.060 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely beautiful.

00:03:08.140 Oh, yeah, dude. 1.00

00:03:09.480 There's some Nephilim shit. 0.99

00:03:10.660 It's like we all know it's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave. 1.00

00:03:16.160 These motherfuckers, they controlling this now. 1.00

00:03:18.160 I know we're talking about how they made us try to be slaves. 1.00

00:03:21.300 And everybody's just walking around, out in the closet, won't awaken to a dead in the grave.

00:03:26.500 By the end of May, we need to be ready to raise up.

00:03:29.320 Welcome to the end of day.

00:03:30.980 Welcome back to Nephilim Death Squad.

00:03:37.080 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a.

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00:03:41.580 And today we are joined by Timothy Albarino.

00:03:45.620 Mr. Albarino, can you tell the audience a little bit about what it is that you do and where they can find your work?

00:03:51.220 It's a very entertaining intro you have there.

00:03:56.580 I'm an author, researcher, an explorer, lecturer, filmmaker.

00:04:02.580 And you can find my work on YouTube.

00:04:06.700 I'm on social media, Twitter and Instagram.

00:04:10.240 I have a website, TimothyAlbarino.com.

00:04:12.300 I've made films.

00:04:13.640 I've written a book called Birthright.

00:04:15.000 So I'm kind of, I'm all over the place and doing a lot of different things.

00:04:22.580 So, but I talk about, I research topics related to biblical studies, UFOs, giants, ancient civilizations, alternative theories and alternative history, etc.

00:04:40.420 You know, Tim, one of the questions I always have is, how did you, how does one get into this?

00:04:46.960 I know how I kind of got into it.

00:04:48.420 We kind of, we kind of get pushed in by like maybe circumstances in our lives where you start to notice.

00:04:54.080 For us, the Christian religion more, in a more intimate way, in a more real way.

00:04:58.560 So I went down this rabbit hole.

00:04:59.780 But how does someone like you become basically like Indiana Jones?

00:05:04.040 Where do you, where do you start off on your life going down this path?

00:05:07.560 Well, I dropped out of high school when I was 18.

00:05:11.560 Dropped, dropped out slash got kicked out of high school when I was 18 years old.

00:05:15.380 And I moved to the Amazon basin of Peru.

00:05:18.720 And that's kind of where things began for me.

00:05:22.600 I lived in Peru for a decade.

00:05:23.980 Then I came back to the States.

00:05:26.600 And I was living in Cleveland, Ohio for a couple of years.

00:05:31.300 That's where I was born and raised, Cleveland, Ohio.

00:05:33.180 And I ended up interfacing with a gentleman named Steve Quayle, who's also in this Nephilim space, you might say.

00:05:42.100 And I ended up moving out to Bozeman, Montana to work with Steve.

00:05:47.240 We created a company called Gen 6 Productions.

00:05:49.540 And we began to produce some documentary films and did some other things, conferences and the like.

00:05:58.380 And so that's kind of what launched me, I would say, in a professional manner.

00:06:06.200 I've always been interested in these kinds of topics.

00:06:10.840 But it became kind of a career for me when I moved out to Bozeman and began to work with Steve Quayle.

00:06:18.280 Interesting.

00:06:18.480 You know, over the weekend, I was on Netflix and I kind of just put on Noah.

00:06:24.440 Never seen it before with Russell Crowe.

00:06:27.060 And I'm just glad that there's people like you.

00:06:29.840 We've got like L.A. Marzulli and, you know, other people.

00:06:32.640 Gary Wayne, who's writing these books that are telling the story much closer to what actually happened than, you know, the Hollywood version of it.

00:06:40.740 Where it's I watched a couple of minutes and it seems like they're trying to depict the Watchers or the Fallen in a good light.

00:06:47.460 It's almost like, you know, like the classic inversion of what the truth would be.

00:06:52.380 And I turned it off.

00:06:53.640 But thank you for covering this stuff and, you know, shedding some knowledge on us because we have no idea what we're doing here.

00:07:00.300 It was a wasted opportunity.

00:07:02.320 They had an opportunity to depict the antediluvian world in a more realistic way and to tell the story as it is written in Genesis 6 and the Book of Enoch and other extra biblical texts.

00:07:19.560 And they chose to do something completely fanciful.

00:07:24.660 Excuse me.

00:07:27.120 And it was a missed opportunity and it ended up being, you know, very lackluster film.

00:07:34.840 I think that I wouldn't call it a missed opportunity.

00:07:39.200 Sorry.

00:07:39.340 Yeah.

00:07:39.760 I feel like that is letting whoever is in charge of these things off the hook.

00:07:44.700 And in a way, also, as I was listening to some of your previous interviews recently where we're talking about the government.

00:07:51.240 If we just kind of keep letting them off the hook as if like, oh, you know, they're just kind of they're just trying to suppress as much as they can.

00:08:00.100 To me, it doesn't seem that way as a conspiracy.

00:08:02.220 It's almost like damage control.

00:08:03.700 It's damage control.

00:08:04.820 They know that they know what the story is.

00:08:06.920 Clearly, they've read it and they and they poured a pretty large budget into it and decided to tell something that wasn't the story.

00:08:13.700 In my opinion, is what it seems like, because why would you avoid this?

00:08:16.400 It's the greatest story ever told.

00:08:18.240 Why would I change it?

00:08:19.300 Well, I I don't know that I would go down a conspiratorial route with the Noah story.

00:08:24.640 I think they make I mean, anyone who's been paying attention for the last five years, 10 years to Hollywood, they've been making really bad decisions about a lot of stories and many stories that don't have anything to do with the biblical narrative.

00:08:39.900 Um, there's just a lack of creativity and you have you always they always want to diverge from these from the original narrative and try and create something unique and different.

00:08:55.640 And in this case, you're right, they they abandoned one of those interesting interesting stories ever told for a ridiculous concoction.

00:09:07.500 That was that was frankly boring.

00:09:10.200 You touched on it for a second there, this idea that they had an opportunity to panthe paint this era in time in a much more fascinating way.

00:09:21.940 And when people think of the story of Noah's Ark, it's kind of like from from the outside looking in, if you're not really paying attention, I would say the general consensus is what like man was corrupt.

00:09:36.480 And so God chose, you know, one man in particular to save a bunch of animals, get them on an ark, and then he punished the world for man's corruption.

00:09:47.480 But there's a lot more going on there.

00:09:50.080 There's a lot more detail and it's a lot more interesting.

00:09:52.600 And I think that we've kind of had these stories.

00:09:57.260 Maybe whitewashed isn't the best term, but watered down, watered down for sure. 0.63

00:10:02.180 They're they're much less potent than they actually are.

00:10:04.900 If you're paying attention.

00:10:05.500 What is your contention about maybe what it looked like in the days of Noah?

00:10:11.560 Well, you know, the story of Noah is very, very old story.

00:10:16.020 It's it was present in ancient Mesopotamia.

00:10:19.460 Of course, that I believe and depending on who you talk to, most scholars would say that the biblical account of Noah is a derivation of the more ancient Mesopotamian account.

00:10:34.180 I would actually take the opposite view.

00:10:36.240 I think that the Mesopotamian account is a derivation from the original account, which comes from the antediluvian world and was passed down through Noah and his sons and then and then became corrupted during the rise of Sumer and Acadia.

00:10:51.340 But it it's interesting because, you know, that that that Noah figure in the Mesopotamian account is Utnapishtim.

00:11:01.460 And in you find this Noah character all over the world in many different mythologies of variegated cultures across the globe.

00:11:12.620 And and but it's always the same kind of story.

00:11:15.540 There's a there's a global cataclysm.

00:11:17.900 There's a cat.

00:11:18.380 There's a terrible cataclysm.

00:11:20.240 And then there's a remnant of of mankind that survives and has to repopulate the earth.

00:11:26.680 It's amazing.

00:11:27.700 There are there are hundreds and hundreds of iterations of the Noah story.

00:11:31.240 I subscribe to the biblical narrative.

00:11:33.860 And as I said, as I alluded to, I believe that the the Genesis account is is the original narrative, whether or not the book of Genesis was penned before or after the Mesopotamian accounts is irrelevant.

00:11:50.020 The oral tradition, I believe, of Noah and his sons that we have in the in the Genesis account is the original story.

00:11:59.420 So I'm sorry, I lost the rest of the rest of your question there.

00:12:02.940 But this actually does bring something to mind where it's like, do you think that this is one man whose name is changed throughout these stories, an event that took place one time that has changed throughout all these different cultures?

00:12:20.960 Or we just had Vicki Joy Anderson, who is an author who works with L.A. Marzulli.

00:12:27.220 She was just on the show the other day and she said something that I thought was really interesting.

00:12:30.600 It was this idea that the way that God sent the symbol of the rainbow and promised not to flood the world again, the way that she interpreted it.

00:12:41.440 And she said it was just something that she she was kind of kicking around this concept of it struck her as you wouldn't flood the world once and then just say, hey, hey, I'll never do it again.

00:12:53.940 It was almost as if like this is something that had happened.

00:12:56.640 Do you think that there's room for Noah almost being an archetype like this may have happened several times and maybe for some reason there is just this formula almost where God picks a man has the same thing happen again.

00:13:15.540 And then this time is like and like I said, this isn't something that she was putting a lot of stock into.

00:13:21.600 It was just an interesting thing.

00:13:22.760 And now that I'm hearing you say it, it's like, well, maybe there's room for this is a multiple occurrence, which is why it echoes through so many different cultures.

00:13:30.260 And maybe it's not necessarily the same man with different names from different cultures, but actually different instances, different moments in time where the same thing happened again.

00:13:41.380 Do you think there's any room for that?

00:13:43.260 I would say that all of these various stories around the world have one original source.

00:13:49.760 But I would also concede that I do believe that the earth had been catastrophically destroyed previous to the flood of Noah and indeed from, in my estimation, previous to the creation of mankind.

00:14:10.460 So I believe in a pre-Adamic cataclysm that rocked the earth, that something happened, something else was going on here before the creation of mankind and the inception of mankind and that it was an even greater cataclysm in that context.

00:14:31.560 So I do subscribe to multiple cataclysms going back into the past.

00:14:40.360 I don't believe that the flood of Noah was the first.

00:14:44.500 Certainly in my mind, there was a pre-Adamic cataclysm and there's lots of reasons why I believe that and I detail why I believe that in my book Birthright.

00:14:53.440 Well, they say, well, they say, I don't know, I don't know the exact number, but I think they attribute 4,000 or some odd years to when Adam would have been around.

00:15:04.160 What's the time frame on that?

00:15:06.400 You mean from Adam to the flood?

00:15:08.680 From Adam to now.

00:15:09.540 Oh, well, this is controversial because most Christians are under the impression that when you go to the Genesis 5 genealogy, which lists the genealogy of the pre-flood patriarchs beginning with Noah and ending, rather beginning with Adam and ending with Noah and his sons.

00:15:29.960 Most Christians will read this genealogy as if it's linear, if it's written in a linear fashion.

00:15:42.180 And there's a lot of problems with that, that rendering of the text.

00:15:48.720 First of all, the first problem that we have to deal with is that we have the Masoretic texts.

00:15:54.740 Today, we are all reading the Masoretic texts.

00:15:57.680 And the Masoretic, the Masorites, they, for some reason, decided to subtract 100 years off of each of the lifespans of those patriarchs from Adam to Noah, which significantly reduced that period of time from Adam to Noah by some 1,500 years or so.

00:16:18.580 1,200 years or so.

00:16:20.120 Well, we know that the Masorites sort of circumcised the lifespans of the patriarchs because in the Septuagint, you have, which I think is the original rendering, you have 100 additional years under the lives of each one of those patriarchs.

00:16:39.940 Why the Masorites would have done it, who knows, they had their own, they had their own theological positions that they were wanting to reinforce.

00:16:48.400 There were certain theological topics and themes that they wanted to suppress.

00:16:53.580 And so that's the first problem that we run into when we try and make a linear calculation from Adam to Noah.

00:17:04.480 The second problem is that clearly, I think what we have in that genealogy is what's referred to as telescoping.

00:17:13.200 And telescoping means that, you know, you imagine a telescope and that telescope will fold down into a smaller artifact.

00:17:25.840 And so basically what scholars mean by telescoping is rather than account for all of the individuals in this family line, they remove certain numbers of them so that they can fit the genealogy in a nice, neat number.

00:17:49.020 And this was, reaching a particular numerical value was very important to ancient writers, especially the writers of the Hebrew Old Testament.

00:18:02.540 Numerology was exceedingly important.

00:18:06.040 The number itself was part of the message.

00:18:08.740 It was a part of the communication.

00:18:10.700 And so you find this, this is a known fact.

00:18:13.500 Scholars know that you find this phenomenon of telescoping in other genealogies in the Bible.

00:18:21.820 It's, it's, this isn't speculation.

00:18:23.720 This is happening.

00:18:24.680 The writers, the, the, the Hebrew writers would routinely engage in this sort of thing, you know, remove certain people from a genealogy in order to, in order to reach a particular number.

00:18:38.160 Again, because this numerology was very important to them.

00:18:41.620 Um, so I think we, we, we, we have some telescoping going on in the account of, um, in the genealogy of the pre-flood patriarchs.

00:18:52.240 There were probably more where we assume that, that genealogy represents the father to the firstborn son and so on all the way down through the line, the genealogical record.

00:19:07.340 But that, I think is a, it's, it's an assumption at best.

00:19:11.900 And I think that, um, in reality, we're probably looking at a whole lot longer period of time than Christians are accustomed to counting for or to contemplating in regard to the antediluvian world from the creation of Adam to the flood of Noah.

00:19:33.600 Um, I would say thousands of years transpired, perhaps many thousands of years.

00:19:39.820 I think that the flood of Noah probably took place sometime around 10,000 BC.

00:19:46.620 Now, uh, this is a, a modification to my own view, even the view I put forward in my book birthright.

00:19:54.700 I have since the publishing of that book modified my view, altered my view based on new information that I was only slightly aware of at the time.

00:20:04.560 Um, and there was an event that took place, um, there was clearly some sort of a cataclysm that happened around 10,000 BC.

00:20:14.360 Indeed, when you look at the megaliths all around the world, so many of them seem to point to that very period of time based on their alignments with celestial phenomena.

00:20:23.820 Um, and this is, of course, the field of archaeoastronomy, uh, looking at an archaeological ruin and then using the timepiece, that celestial timepiece to figure out when this, this, let's say, megalithic site aligned with a particular sign, zodiacal sign, um, or a particular constellation.

00:20:51.840 And, um, and, um, and so many of the same, the same thing that they used for the Sphinx, uh, facing the constellation of Leo.

00:21:01.940 Yes.

00:21:02.500 That would be precisely.

00:21:04.160 Okay.

00:21:05.200 Precisely.

00:21:05.740 And this works because of axial procession, because the earth is tilted and, and wobbles.

00:21:10.860 And so, um, this, this was known to the ancients and they all use the same, they all base, they all use the same timepiece.

00:21:18.520 And that, we call that the Zodiac and the Hebrews called that the Matzeroth. 0.77

00:21:24.980 And it's the same thing.

00:21:26.520 It's the same signs.

00:21:27.580 It's the, the, the Zodiac is of course divided into 12 houses and each house is represented by a different sign.

00:21:35.900 And this is how the ages were measured.

00:21:39.200 And, uh, and by many, many different cultures, including.

00:21:43.800 This may be going in a different direction, but it's something that I was actually thinking about very recently.

00:21:50.140 So it's interesting that we're here talking about it, but there was a time when I came to understand that a 13th Zodiac had been introduced.

00:21:57.600 And it was Ophiuchus, uh, a man, uh, uh, struggling with a serpent and, or wrestling with a serpent.

00:22:04.980 And then that kind of just fell out of the, the kind of, you know, zeitgeist of awareness.

00:22:11.320 I wonder if, if you know anything about that or how that applies, because there was this, I think around maybe 2000 and 2013, 2014, suddenly there was the introduction of this 13th constellation for a brief time.

00:22:25.760 That never seemed to really stick around or, or be anything of any significance, but I do remember it was called Ophiuchus and I do remember it was a man wrestling with a serpent.

00:22:35.240 I don't recall that I've only been aware of 12 and this is, this certainly understand the ancient understanding is 12.

00:22:42.160 There's 12 ages and those ages correspond to the, what's called, uh, a great year, which is the, the completing the, the full wobble of the earth, axial procession.

00:22:56.580 And, uh, and again, all the ancients knew this.

00:23:00.660 So I don't know, uh, I'm not sure how we got onto Zodiac.

00:23:04.340 I took a scare.

00:23:05.700 That was, that's all right.

00:23:07.700 That might've just been me.

00:23:08.660 I, uh, if, if we were already lost in the woods, I made sure to derail us.

00:23:12.360 We were talking about the, the Sphinx being aligned to the, um, to Leo and, and, um, that, you know, that was sometime around 10,000 BC and not only the Sphinx in, in Egypt, but also in Peru, I believe that the, that the city of Cusco, for example,

00:23:35.040 and this, this is, this is, was confirmed through the research of my, my friend and colleague, uh, Andres Adazme, who's an archaeoastronomer, um, who figured out that the city of Cusco was founded in 10,000 BC based on the alignment of the megaliths.

00:23:51.820 Uh, I think there, I think that, uh, uh, 10,000 BC is probably when, um, that the cataclysm occurred.

00:24:01.680 So you're looking at some 12,000 years ago, which of course aligns with the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis that Graham Hancock has made famous, um, and Randall Carlson.

00:24:11.940 Um, and the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis posits that 12,000 years ago, around 10,000 BC, there was an earth shattering cataclysm.

00:24:24.780 Um, and that, that, that resulted from, uh, a, an, an asteroid impact on the North American ice sheets, the Laurentide ice sheet to be specific, and perhaps other, other locations in North America.

00:24:39.380 It was in fact, not just one impact, but a series of impacts because there was a large asteroid that broke up, uh, that broke up, um, and, and broke up in orbit and fragments of it bombarded the earth.

00:24:55.020 And that, that, that was, uh, that precipitated this, this cataclysm that, that, uh, annihilated humanity that destroyed much of the life on earth, megafauna, certainly the megafauna extinction and, and, and almost entirely eradicated the human species.

00:25:20.000 I think that, that, that, that is the cataclysm, uh, the, the Noahic flood. 0.60

00:25:27.420 I believe that, that is the cataclysm that all of these other ancient civilizations refer to.

00:25:35.880 And that it, and that it, in fact, it happened sometime around 10,000 BC.

00:25:39.980 So I would push the flood of Noah back to 10,000 BC.

00:25:43.080 And again, the only contention that Christians can, can make in regard to this, this timeframe is, but the Genesis five genealogy only allows for however many years it is.

00:25:58.880 I don't remember off the top of my head, um, basically to 3,300 BC thereabouts, um, would have been the flood of Noah, according to that calculation.

00:26:07.420 And, uh, it's just, it's, it's very, uh, it's not a, it's a tenuous position because again, the Masoretic text, for some reason, subtracted a hundred years off of the lifespans of the patriarchs.

00:26:22.700 So you have to start there.

00:26:23.980 Um, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fall back to the Septuagint before I'm gonna, the Septuagint, as I said, has a hundred additional years on the lifespans of those patriarchs.

00:26:36.460 And I'm, I'm going to put more confidence in the, in the reckoning of the Septuagint than in the Masoretic text.

00:26:41.560 So that's again, the first problem.

00:26:43.420 And the second problem is this issue of telescoping.

00:26:45.920 So, um, it's not as concrete as most Christians think it is.

00:26:53.020 It's just not at all.

00:26:55.160 It's completely up for debate.

00:26:58.880 And, um, and, uh, again, you have to take into account the, the megaliths are, I think the remnant, they're the, they're, it's all that's left from the antediluvian world.

00:27:13.380 That's all that could have survived are these massive megalithic foundations.

00:27:17.280 And so you have to take into account the, the archeo astronomical alignments of these megaliths because they're, they're very precisely aligned.

00:27:26.560 You can't just discount that data because, you know, your master, your Masoretic Bible says there were this many years from Noah to, from Adam to Noah.

00:27:38.720 No, you have to take the compendium of evidence and, and use the correct measurements and the correct measurement of time is the Zodiacal ages.

00:27:51.220 So, um, so anyway, 10,000 BC, that's when I would, I would push the flood back.

00:27:57.620 And this is a, this is an amendment to the way I used to think, um, years ago.

00:28:02.580 I've, I've, as I said, since I published my book, I've, I've amended this position.

00:28:07.120 Well, you know, good on you, man, because, uh, a lot of what, uh, a lot of what is wrong with humanity now, or at least current, the current civilization is people kind of pick a side and then they get married to it.

00:28:19.600 Can't let that die.

00:28:20.660 So good on you for having, you know, continuing your research and, and changing your mind.

00:28:25.840 Um, I wanted to ask, so after this flood, um, how did these guys survive?

00:28:32.200 Because I know that there's, there's accounts.

00:28:34.560 There's definitely one that I, I'm pretty sure is verifiable.

00:28:37.520 We're talking about, uh, the, the giant from Afghanistan. 0.61

00:28:40.100 This is just one, uh, but we know that there are still Nephilim around. 0.99

00:28:45.640 Um, you know, this is an ongoing debate.

00:28:48.980 How did the Nephilim survive the flood?

00:28:52.660 And the older I get, the more irrelevant it seems.

00:28:56.180 Um, it, it, it depends on how you view the flood.

00:29:00.460 First of all, there's a lot of good scholarship in regard to the flood of Noah, not being global.

00:29:11.740 And what I mean by global is not every single mountain on planet earth was submerged in water.

00:29:20.480 Um, there are several, there, I would, there, there are basically three positions on the flood of Noah.

00:29:27.120 You have what, what would, might be considered the traditional position, at least the traditional Protestant position,

00:29:31.960 which would be that the flood of Noah was global and that every mountain peak was covered in water, um, all over the earth.

00:29:40.260 That would be the traditional view.

00:29:42.880 Then I would say that another view would be a local flood theory in which the Levant, the Fertile Crescent was flooded.

00:29:53.900 And it was a local phenomenon, a local cataclysm.

00:29:59.680 And that was the known world to the people at the time.

00:30:02.120 Um, and, um, so that's, you know, that's the local flood hypothesis.

00:30:08.300 And then there's one that I think is kind of in between.

00:30:10.840 And this is the one that I subscribe to, which is a global cataclysm hypothesis.

00:30:18.020 In other words, the entire earth was rocked by cataclysm.

00:30:22.480 Every continent was affected by this cataclysm and it had dire effects all over the earth.

00:30:28.600 Um, not just, not just in, in, in regard to flooding, by the way, if indeed we're talking about a, an asteroid impact or a series of asteroid impacts on the ice sheets in, on the North American ice sheets, then obviously you would have flooding for sure.

00:30:48.480 But you would also have, um, you would also have raging forest fires everywhere, all over the earth as the fragments, the, the molten hot fragments of the impacts are discharged for, for miles, perhaps even thousands of miles and landing in forests and setting those forests ablaze.

00:31:09.760 So you would have mass burning of the, of, of, of the, um, uh, forests on earth, all over the earth.

00:31:20.080 And you would also obviously have floods, you would have earthquakes, you would have, there, there would be, there would be, the fallout would be considerable and it would manifest in many different ways, not just flooding.

00:31:30.640 And it would affect the, the, the, the, um, uh, the temperature and what's the word I'm looking for here?

00:31:42.900 Saltiness, salinity of the oceans would, would be altered.

00:31:48.320 The, the, it would probably have launched the earth into a, something like a nuclear winter, something approximating a nuclear winter.

00:31:56.600 So you would have a, you would have this, you would have, um, the, the, the, the massive forest fires and, and you would have a super heating of the atmosphere around the impact area.

00:32:10.900 So you would have like, things would be vaporized, but then right after all of this, you would, the earth would be plunged into a deep freeze because of all of the debris that that's thrown up into the atmosphere, blocking the sun.

00:32:23.320 Um, and creating, um, creating, um, creating a, uh, a kind of nuclear winter.

00:32:30.100 So it would have been absolutely devastating.

00:32:33.120 The entire globe would have been devastated by cataclysm.

00:32:37.660 So, um, I subscribe to this view that the entire world was affected by the cataclysm.

00:32:42.960 Um, civilization, especially in, in, in, in ancient context, um, was founded, the great cities were usually founded on the banks of rivers or, or on the, or in the coastal areas.

00:32:59.980 And these are precisely the areas that would have been submerged.

00:33:03.820 There would have been, you know, mile high tidal waves generated from these impacts.

00:33:08.320 And from the, all of that, uh, ice, the, the melt of the ice water, uh, rather the, uh, the freshwater melt from the, from the glaciers.

00:33:19.000 Um, you would have had, you would have had just devastating flooding.

00:33:25.680 If, if you lived anywhere near the sea, your city would be underwater.

00:33:30.500 Um, but if you're more inland, you would have perhaps been more affected by the, the, the wildfires and the earthquakes.

00:33:40.620 I mean, to think that there wasn't, you know, kind of some, some sort of advanced economics and trade going on, agriculture going on back then.

00:33:48.100 All that stuff is, even today, if that's slightly disrupted, you're looking at a, you know, mass deaths.

00:33:54.800 They, I, they were talking about if the internet goes down, people are going to die in problem.

00:33:59.480 It's, you know, it's just the tiniest little, you know, push of a button.

00:34:04.000 That's right.

00:34:04.420 It's still in our nature, right?

00:34:05.640 We're doing the same thing.

00:34:06.620 All of our cities are still coastal.

00:34:08.880 You know what I mean?

00:34:09.700 It's like, all we are is one, uh, oceanic cataclysm away from destroying these coastal cities.

00:34:15.860 And what happens when the animals die?

00:34:18.680 Because you have, you have a mass, you have a mass die off of the fauna and you're talking about, you're talking about a, a, an extinction level event that's unfolding in the world.

00:34:33.720 And then, you know, all of the repercussions, you, it would be very, very difficult to survive, very difficult to survive under those circumstances.

00:34:43.260 Um, so again, I subscribe to that view, which is kind of in the middle of the local flood and the global flood.

00:34:50.720 And people, of course, will raise contentions immediately and say, doesn't the Bible say every mountain was underwater and so on and so forth and the waters cover the whole earth?

00:35:00.900 The answer is yes and no.

00:35:04.340 Um, there are, again, the, the scholarship is when, if you read the papers on the, on the, on the extent, the extent of the flood, you're going to find a various opinions by many different scholars based on the terminology.

00:35:21.100 So, no, it's not, it's not, it's not black and forth.

00:35:23.580 It's not black and white as people suppose, just like the genealogy, the pre-flood patriarchal genealogy.

00:35:29.960 You know, we want, for some reason, we, we, so many Christians, and I'm a Christian, we have this need for things to be, uh, for things to be simplified and, and concrete, black and white.

00:35:46.820 And, and we, for some reason, people need it to be that way.

00:35:51.020 But the, but the reality is it's not, it's not.

00:35:53.780 So many things that we think are concrete are not in regard to, um, the Old Testament.

00:36:00.740 And, again, um, there's a lot of scholarship on the flood of Noah, and there's a lot of different positions, or at least a few different positions with a lot of commentary.

00:36:12.360 And you could, if you take the text, and I'm not a scholar, I'm not an ancient language expert, but if you, but I've, I've read the work by, I've read a lot of the scholarly articles.

00:36:21.500 And you could, we have a particular rendering in, in our Bibles in regard to the flood of Noah, but you could easily derive a different rendering.

00:36:34.080 Um, and based on the, uh, based on the way the words that are used in Hebrew and Aramaic and so forth.

00:36:41.800 So it's, it's just not as simple as people think.

00:36:46.000 So that's a very long answer, uh, to your original question, which was how could have, let's say the Nephilim survived.

00:36:55.040 Um, well, there's, there's a variety of answers and it depends on, it depends on where you fall in, in terms of the extent of the flood.

00:37:02.960 If you believe that the flood of Noah was in fact global and every mountain was underwater, Mount Everest was underwater.

00:37:12.120 If that's, if that's what you believe you have to, you have to come for some things.

00:37:15.440 If that's what you believe, like how, how did the, how did the aquatic life survive?

00:37:20.440 It wasn't on the ark.

00:37:21.320 And if you take salt, if you take creatures who, who are equipped to live in the ocean and that saltwater environment, and you suddenly dilute that saltwater environment, those creatures are going to die.

00:37:36.460 Um, so you have to account for the oceanic life, the aquatic life surviving in those circumstances.

00:37:43.300 And the ecosystem is, is intricately connected.

00:37:46.400 You know, you can't have one ecosystem survive and all the other ones collapse.

00:37:52.200 So I might be, I might be just, uh, speaking out of my, my ass here, but, uh, what's the salinity like salinity, like in the ocean as you go deeper?

00:38:00.080 Because when you start to get to like deep sea fishing, you're pulling stuff up that looks historic. 0.92

00:38:05.580 I mean, ancient, I don't know.

00:38:07.460 I don't know.

00:38:09.500 I just know that the ecosystem is very delicate.

00:38:12.380 It's very delicate.

00:38:13.940 It cannot, you know, you can destroy an ecosystem by just modifying a few factors.

00:38:20.360 You can devastate an ecosystem.

00:38:22.360 It's very delicate.

00:38:23.560 So, and if you're talking about a global flood where every square inch of the ground is covered with water, there's, it just, there's no way.

00:38:32.200 I mean, what are these sea creatures really going to survive on when the ecosystem on land has collapsed, is gone?

00:38:39.540 Um, it's just, it's really untenable if you think about it.

00:38:45.020 So, um, so again, if you subscribe to this notion that every single mountain, every square inch of planet earth was underwater, then you're really only left with a couple of options in regard to how the Nephilim, we know how Noah and his family made it through the flood.

00:38:59.560 They were divinely, they were, they were carried through the flood.

00:39:05.500 Um, and we know that, but what about the Nephilim?

00:39:09.820 Well, you, you, you, you, you, you have to subscribe to really one of two, um, scenarios.

00:39:17.120 One is that there was another incursion, which is called the second incursion that the, that the, what happened to Genesis six, that Genesis six affair reoccurred.

00:39:28.540 It happened again.

00:39:30.140 I have a problem with that because the consequence was so severe.

00:39:36.980 The punishment was so severe, uh, after the first incident that it's hard to imagine a group of watchers getting together and repeating it right away.

00:39:46.840 It just was so severe.

00:39:49.100 And the judgment against the watchers was, was evident.

00:39:53.780 It was seen by the rest of the heavenly hosts.

00:39:56.620 So it's very difficult for me to imagine that just, it just happened again.

00:40:01.960 Um, and, and there is no account of a second incursion.

00:40:05.800 Why would there be such a detailed account of the first one, but not the second one?

00:40:09.200 Where's the second incursion?

00:40:10.320 And show me in any biblical or extra biblical text, where's the second incursion?

00:40:14.400 It's just not there.

00:40:15.220 It's non-existent.

00:40:16.880 So, um, I don't subscribe to the...

00:40:19.700 Quick question.

00:40:20.500 Um, so after the watchers are judged, um, and some are locked up, how many are locked up?

00:40:26.720 How many are...

00:40:27.600 There's 200 watchers and they're all condemned and imprisoned.

00:40:31.460 All of them.

00:40:32.540 Even Lucifer.

00:40:33.220 Well, he wasn't a part of those watchers.

00:40:37.880 That's a different scenario.

00:40:39.820 Um, so returning to this, to finish this thought, to finish the, answering your previous question.

00:40:46.520 Um, so there's the second incursion.

00:40:49.340 And then the other, the other hypothesis, if you subscribe to every square inch of the earth

00:40:53.940 being underwater, is that the genetic markers of the giants, of the Nephilim, made it through

00:41:03.100 the flood via the genomes of Noah's sons, or more specifically, Noah's son's wives, and

00:41:12.000 even more specifically, uh, Ham and his wife and their offspring.

00:41:17.540 So, um, okay, that's a possibility.

00:41:21.780 I, I, uh, that is plausible, certainly.

00:41:24.520 Um, but if you subscribe to my position, a local flood, or to my position, which would

00:41:30.580 be a global cataclysm, um, then the answer is actually even, even simpler.

00:41:38.100 There were places on earth that were less affected, that were more survival, survivable.

00:41:45.880 Although nearly all of humanity was destroyed, um, indeed, nearly all of the animals, um, there

00:41:58.380 might have been pockets, places on earth where the Nephilim, the offspring, the watchers, and,

00:42:05.260 and, and other kinds of creatures might have been able to survive, um, that where the ecosystem

00:42:12.040 was still intact, and it, and it, it was, uh, much less devastated by the cataclysm.

00:42:19.480 So that's a very simple answer.

00:42:21.720 Um, and, and, and again, everyone's going to want to go back to the Masoretic text and

00:42:26.000 say, but it says, you know, they're going to, in the comments of your video, they're going

00:42:30.380 to say, it says, and, you know, this verse and this verse, that everything that had breath

00:42:35.020 and every mountain, and I'm just telling everyone right now that it's not as cut and dry as you

00:42:39.320 think.

00:42:40.260 You see, I'm not a scholar.

00:42:41.900 I'm assuming you guys are not scholars.

00:42:43.380 We are casual Bible readers.

00:42:46.380 How could you tell?

00:42:48.980 We are casual Bible readers and including myself, but we have access to scholarship, to the individuals

00:42:56.940 whose careers are to, to learn these dead languages and understand the different meanings

00:43:04.820 and potential meanings of things and, and to avail ourselves of their work.

00:43:08.700 And when you do that, you realize it's just, as I said, not as cut and dry as you think.

00:43:12.980 There's, there's a lot of possibility.

00:43:16.240 There's a lot of flexibility in these stories.

00:43:20.180 Now, lest anyone accuse me of not believing in the Bible, I absolutely,

00:43:26.940 subscribe to the biblical narrative, and I don't think there's any leeway as it pertains

00:43:30.700 to the gospel of Christ.

00:43:31.600 That is cut and dry.

00:43:33.820 So don't think that I'm extending this flexibility in the, the, the biblical flood narrative or

00:43:40.460 the genealogy of, of the pre-flood patriarchs to the gospel of Christ.

00:43:45.000 Certainly not.

00:43:46.660 That's a completely different situation for many reasons.

00:43:49.800 So, um, and you asked the question that, uh, I don't recall.

00:43:56.660 Oh, you had another question.

00:43:57.400 Oh, that's right.

00:43:59.080 And that's a good question because there is some confusion here and, um, and people might

00:44:07.760 be wondering where I'm deriving some of my understanding of this material from the, uh,

00:44:15.120 everyone knows that the Genesis six account is, is like two sentences, right?

00:44:21.080 Um, the Genesis account is not the full account, obviously of the pre-flood world.

00:44:27.660 There was one that priest precedes it from which the Genesis account is, is drawing.

00:44:33.360 Uh, and that's clear.

00:44:35.980 That's evident for many reasons.

00:44:37.060 And I believe that among other, uh, manuscripts, the book of Enoch, I think is central here to

00:44:44.660 understanding the first Enoch specifically the reality and the historic, the historicity

00:44:55.020 of the antediluvian world.

00:44:57.560 Um, and so when you talk about the watchers and how many watchers were there, you, you can't

00:45:05.500 reference anything in the biblical text.

00:45:07.340 You have to go to the book of Enoch.

00:45:09.260 Well, they say a third, but that could be, who knows?

00:45:13.040 Well, the biblical text, you know, it makes this reference to a third of the angels.

00:45:15.920 There's a lot of contention around this.

00:45:17.560 Um, some people think that that's a future thing.

00:45:19.840 Um, so that's, that's a separate, that's a separate issue.

00:45:24.560 When you talk specifically about Genesis six and the watchers, you were referencing specifically

00:45:29.180 200 watchers who descended to the earth in the days of Jared, 200.

00:45:34.960 Uh, and all 200 of those watchers are, are bound in chains, uh, and darkness as Peter and

00:45:43.520 Jude allude to, and, and we'll be in this condition to the great judgment.

00:45:48.520 And this is another misconception here.

00:45:51.420 There is no indication either in the biblical text and certainly not in the book of Enoch

00:45:55.100 that any of these watchers are going to be released at the end of the age.

00:45:59.320 They are, they are bound until the, as the book of Enoch puts it, are bound until the age

00:46:06.260 is fully consummated until the great judgment.

00:46:11.980 So, um, there is no release of the watchers.

00:46:14.900 Those 200 watchers are bound in Tartarus, as Peter says.

00:46:19.320 So, um, and in regard to the, in regard to this, this character that we in the West, uh,

00:46:29.920 call Satan, indeed the New Testament also references him as Satan.

00:46:33.680 Um, this character is not necessarily directly involved in the sin of the watchers.

00:46:46.440 Now, he may be indirectly involved in there, but we would have to speculate about that.

00:46:51.100 He may be indirectly involved.

00:46:52.180 And there is some, some indication in first D not that that may be the case, but that's

00:46:57.420 also questionable for other reasons.

00:46:58.900 Does that mean, uh, sorry to interrupt, but does that mean that he, he didn't, um, he

00:47:04.160 didn't take part in, in bearing offspring with the, with the, the men, the daughters of

00:47:10.000 man?

00:47:10.280 Is that what you're saying?

00:47:11.280 No, he did not.

00:47:12.400 Um, unless, um, unless, unless you want to associate, um, some, some scholars do, I personally do

00:47:30.280 not, but you'll find scholars who will say that Semjaza or Azazel are in fact, Satan.

00:47:38.820 Um, that's, that that's this satanic figure that we find in the New Testament.

00:47:43.900 Um, I do not believe that there's several reasons why I don't believe that.

00:47:47.160 Uh, but it's important to understand because now we're delving into the book of Enoch from

00:47:51.980 which the, the story of the watchers is derived primarily.

00:47:56.620 Um, you there's the, it's a, it, the narrative in first Enoch is a composite.

00:48:02.100 It's very clearly a composite narrative.

00:48:04.000 It's not one narrative.

00:48:06.540 There were perhaps a handful of oral traditions or manuscripts that were combined together.

00:48:11.340 And I'm not even talking about second and third Enoch.

00:48:13.880 That's completely different topic.

00:48:15.340 I'm just talking about within first Enoch.

00:48:17.440 Um, and this becomes evident when you realize that as you're reading through first Enoch,

00:48:23.780 sometimes Semjaza, or he has different renderings of his name based on which edition you're reading

00:48:30.000 book of Enoch, sometimes Semjaza is depicted as the, or Semijaza, sometimes his name is rendered,

00:48:37.480 is depicted as the ringleader and sometimes Azazel, this other watcher, Azazel.

00:48:45.720 And then also there's the possibility that these are distinct figures.

00:48:49.040 And I think they are.

00:48:49.740 I don't think they're the same person.

00:48:50.860 I think these are two distinct watchers, Semjaza and Azazel. 0.64

00:48:55.260 And I don't think either of them are this, this figure of Satan that we have in the New

00:49:01.520 Testament.

00:49:01.960 I think that he's the original rebel.

00:49:05.020 His defection from the kingdom happened long before the episode with the watchers.

00:49:09.700 In fact, you know, he is that serpent of old, the dragon and the devil who was in Eden.

00:49:14.660 And, and, and so he was a rebel and a defector before the watchers, because he was in Eden,

00:49:24.800 the garden of God.

00:49:26.140 So, um, there is, and I would, I would argue that there was already a group of defected,

00:49:35.940 let's call them defected sons of God, apostate sons of God inhabiting the earth before the advent 0.99

00:49:42.920 of the watchers.

00:49:44.380 In other words, these 200 watchers, this was a completely separate episode of defection

00:49:49.620 of rebellion.

00:49:51.680 And so, you know, sometimes all of these different bad actors in the biblical narrative are conflated,

00:49:58.860 but I think that we can, we can see different episodes and different characters involved.

00:50:03.340 However, I will say that I do believe that, whereas this figure we call Satan was not

00:50:12.460 directly involved in the sin of the watchers.

00:50:15.500 I do think he was indirectly involved.

00:50:17.040 In other words, he may have been involved in tempting the watchers, convincing them to

00:50:22.740 do what they did, but he did not himself copulate with a human female and, and thereby

00:50:30.800 progenerate human hybrid offspring.

00:50:34.920 Um, that is evident because all of the watchers, Simjah, Zazel, and the rest of them were all

00:50:43.040 condemned.

00:50:43.920 They were all bound in chains and, and are awaiting the day, uh, the day of judgment, the final

00:50:52.760 judgment.

00:50:53.500 And if that were the case, if, if, if Satan were involved in that group, then he would also

00:50:59.960 be bound in chains.

00:51:02.020 And, and that does not correlate to, uh, certainly the new Testament where we read that Satan goes

00:51:10.420 around like a roaring lion seeking who he might devour, right?

00:51:13.800 This idea that the devil is still very much active in the world and, and is tempting.

00:51:21.520 And I mean, he's with Jesus in the desert, in the wilderness, tempting the son of God.

00:51:27.920 So he's clearly not in chains, in Tartarus, in Hades and, you know, the underworld, what

00:51:36.280 have you.

00:51:36.860 So, um, but that's an important clarification, I think.

00:51:41.980 And it makes, you know, it actually makes a lot of sense because, um, there's rules.

00:51:45.960 There are spiritual rules that these beings must play by even, even the devil himself.

00:51:51.480 You read the book of Job, it's constantly, he's constantly getting consent.

00:51:55.740 Can I do this?

00:51:56.400 Can I then do that?

00:51:57.880 And it's like, yeah, but he's asking first.

00:51:59.840 He's not just doing.

00:52:01.380 So he's, he's, he's, uh, you know, he's a clever fellow and yeah, wow.

00:52:05.500 That's a, that's actually a very interesting way to look at it.

00:52:08.500 He's the worst.

00:52:09.120 He's not the worst of the, of these fallen angels.

00:52:12.160 He's just the one.

00:52:12.660 Well, he might be, but he's not, he wasn't condemned with the watchers.

00:52:15.900 He wasn't involved in their episode directly.

00:52:18.080 Um, and, and, and, and in regard to the accountant Job, um, you know, there's again, going back

00:52:27.840 to the scholarly material, there is contention there as well in regard to who that figure

00:52:33.100 is, if that is in fact, Satan with a capital S or a Satan, um, because Satan is not a, it

00:52:44.080 does not really become a proper title until the new Testament.

00:52:48.880 In the old Testament, there are multiple Satans.

00:52:52.320 And so it's, it's, uh, it's, it's all very nebulous, um, in the old Testament.

00:52:59.980 So, but I do believe that it's clear, it's clear if you read in the biblical narrative that

00:53:09.260 this original rebel, Satan with a capital S is permitted to tempt.

00:53:18.880 That that is his role.

00:53:20.740 That is, you may, you might consider it to be his, his obligation at this point, that

00:53:26.940 he is, that he is permitted to tempt.

00:53:31.460 And, and again, he, he clearly does so with, with Jesus and he wanted to sift Peter, if

00:53:39.780 you recall.

00:53:40.760 So, um, that's an, that's an ongoing function of, of the devil with a capital D, Satan with

00:53:48.680 a capital S.

00:53:49.420 And I keep saying that because those who are familiar with some of the scholarship in

00:53:52.760 the old Testament will understand that, that there are devils and Satans.

00:53:56.920 That's not always referencing just one particular individual.

00:54:00.880 Um, Satan being more of a descriptive, that means the, the adversary.

00:54:07.000 Somebody said Satan, Christ job titles and angels as well.

00:54:10.840 Angel means messenger.

00:54:12.020 It's kind of what they're doing.

00:54:12.880 Right.

00:54:13.620 The, the, the, the, the, the word Satan means adversary.

00:54:18.540 Um, and a couple of other words as well that, that you, you might use, but adversary is

00:54:25.000 basically what it boils down to.

00:54:26.380 So, um, and again, in the new Testament, we have the identification of like a capital S Satan,

00:54:34.960 who's the chief of the rebels, the angelic rebels.

00:54:38.740 And that certainly is true.

00:54:41.980 And I make a very strong case for that in my book birthright.

00:54:45.000 And, and I subscribe to that notion.

00:54:46.560 I think he is the, the, the, uh, the principal rebel and, and perhaps even the first, probably

00:54:54.800 the first.

00:54:56.480 And, and he is involved in this narrative very, very intimately.

00:55:00.820 In fact, I would say there, again, a lot of contention around this statement as well,

00:55:05.160 but I would say that it is that individual, that very individual, the dragon who I, I, I,

00:55:12.240 I use the dragon moniker in my book more than any other, um, that, that this capital S Satan

00:55:20.140 figure was in fact, the beguiler of Eve in Eden.

00:55:25.020 He was the serpent.

00:55:26.540 It's not a talking snake.

00:55:27.620 I think we all understand that at this point, um, that it was him.

00:55:32.600 And, uh, and he was permitted to do that.

00:55:35.660 For very particular reasons.

00:55:37.520 But I would also say that Eden is largely the Eden story is largely an allegory.

00:55:43.080 So, um, anyway.

00:55:48.600 I, uh, I wanted to touch on something I've heard you discuss before, and I always wanted the

00:55:53.740 opportunity to hear you elaborate, um, if there was any elaboration to be made, but I believe it

00:55:59.460 was actually on the podcast, blurry creatures, which is a tremendous show.

00:56:03.180 Uh, highly recommend everybody go check out those guys.

00:56:05.420 You were discussing your conversations with, uh, people in Peru.

00:56:11.740 And you said that the government of Peru had become very, um, touch and go with visitors

00:56:22.420 of your nature because of the series, ancient aliens.

00:56:28.780 Basically they had become upset with this idea that you or any other potential visitor might

00:56:34.060 be there to try to paint some, some picture, uh, that would be, you know, uh, adapted to a

00:56:42.820 history channel series.

00:56:43.940 And because of this, you, you, you found some resistance, uh, in trying to do a lot of the

00:56:52.140 things that you set out to do while you were there.

00:56:53.860 And you mentioned that the narrative you will get from the government of Peru on how their

00:57:02.400 megalithic structures were made would be one thing, but that if you asked someone who was

00:57:10.020 more local and more native, uh, in their, in, I suppose their family's genealogy, what the

00:57:20.100 origin of these megalithic structures would have been, they would tell you that a race of giants,

00:57:28.040 um, built the megalithic structures, but who at some point became cannibalistic in nature

00:57:35.620 and then were punished by being wiped out with a series of, or a flood water.

00:57:44.980 And I wonder if I'm sure, uh, I butchered that to some degree, if you could add some

00:57:51.800 clarification to that, the nature of these giants, who they were in relation to the Peruvian

00:57:56.740 people, just maybe a little bit more fleshing out of what it is that they believe, uh, the

00:58:02.460 origins of their megalithic structures truly were.

00:58:05.520 Okay.

00:58:06.300 Uh, yes.

00:58:07.200 The ministry of culture in Peru is very irritated with the ancient aliens narrative.

00:58:12.600 Um, I don't really subscribe to the ancient aliens narrative, although I always say that 1.00

00:58:20.820 the premise of the fairy is true, but that's about it.

00:58:26.700 Um, the, the tendency in Peru among archeologists and historians is to attribute.

00:58:40.080 Many of the most, in fact, of the megaliths that you find throughout that land in the Andes

00:58:48.180 to the Inca, that they were these master masons, that the Inca built the megaliths and whether

00:58:57.260 it be Sacsayhuaman in Cusco or Jantaytambo or Machu Picchu, uh, the foundations of Machu Picchu

00:59:05.320 are indeed megalithic.

00:59:06.320 So the conventional narrative is that the Inca built all of this.

00:59:11.220 Um, and it's true that if the guides and the archeologists and the historians overhear

00:59:22.560 you discussing an alternative view, whether you're walking around with your own group or

00:59:28.920 you're just standing there talking to somebody, observing the walls, it's not uncommon for them

00:59:36.120 to display some degree of hostility.

00:59:40.000 I encountered such hostility in Machu Picchu.

00:59:43.420 In fact, we were very close.

00:59:47.920 My group was very close to being thrown out of Machu Picchu last time we were there.

00:59:52.120 And the reason why is because there's a particular stone structure, uh, in Machu Picchu called the

01:00:00.920 Intiwatana.

01:00:01.960 And the Intiwatana is basically a timepiece.

01:00:06.060 It's a solar timepiece and it's, uh, it's got very intricate cuts in it.

01:00:10.740 It's, uh, I believe it's granite and it, it's, it's devised to make calculations based on the

01:00:23.380 shadows that are cast from the sun.

01:00:25.680 Um, and they call it the, um, there it is.

01:00:30.060 They call it the, uh, hitching post of the sun because it was, it was a solar timepiece.

01:00:40.400 And I became aware before I went to Peru with this, I took a group to Peru with, by the way,

01:00:46.500 Blurry Creatures.

01:00:47.280 It was, uh, um, we did a Peru trip last year.

01:00:51.060 I went with Nate and Luke from Blurry Creatures and a, and a, and a group of, uh, about 40 people

01:00:58.220 went with us and, um, we were touring Machu Picchu and, and I was, I was talking, me and me and my

01:01:05.980 colleague Andres Adazme, who I previously mentioned, were kind of guiding our group around Machu Picchu.

01:01:13.140 And I had become aware previous to this trip that it appears, apparently they have discovered,

01:01:25.120 I believe it's in Turkey, another Intiwatana, but it's, it's, it's very similar.

01:01:33.940 I've seen pictures of it.

01:01:34.900 Um, and it's very similar to the one in Machu Picchu and it appears to have the same function.

01:01:41.860 It, it looks like a solar device, uh, a device that's, that was used to, to make calculations

01:01:50.700 based on the movements of the sun.

01:01:52.580 So that obviously is very intriguing because if, if it's true that there's an Intiwatana

01:01:58.920 in Turkey, then that is proof positive that the Inca did not build Machu Picchu because

01:02:08.220 they weren't around in Turkey.

01:02:10.300 As far as I know, there were no Inca in Turkey.

01:02:14.820 So I was discussing this with my group and we weren't, we weren't, they, for some reason,

01:02:21.660 they, they close off the area where the Intiwatana is at Machu Picchu now in the afternoon.

01:02:26.800 It's only open in the morning for whatever reason.

01:02:29.600 And, uh, we couldn't go up there because we were in the afternoon.

01:02:32.420 And, and so we were sort of standing at a different part of the, of the citadel.

01:02:38.500 And I was pointing up to it and talking and discussing the Intiwatana, the Intiwatana and

01:02:43.580 the, and the one in Turkey.

01:02:46.580 And there happened to be a guide standing there.

01:02:49.680 Wasn't, he was not part of our group.

01:02:53.280 He was a, um, what would you call him?

01:02:56.460 I mean, he was, he was a, he was a, one of the official guides, but he was also there

01:03:02.520 to kind of, um, like in, like in a, in a guard capacity also walking around, making sure

01:03:11.300 people aren't climbing around on the megaliths and, and, and also eavesdropping and listening

01:03:15.560 to what's being said because they do that at Machu Picchu.

01:03:18.020 But he's an official, an official employee.

01:03:22.240 And he heard me talking about this and I was speaking English.

01:03:27.580 He spoke English and, and making some commentary in Spanish as well.

01:03:32.560 And he literally walked up to us and started waving his hands and saying, wait, wait, wait,

01:03:39.280 wait, wait a minute.

01:03:40.000 You can't say that.

01:03:41.120 You can't say that.

01:03:42.440 Who are you?

01:03:43.720 What gives you the authority to say something like that?

01:03:47.060 Um, are you a guide?

01:03:49.120 Are, do you have permission, um, to, to basically to say the things you're saying?

01:03:55.900 And I looked at him and I said, I, I don't think I need permission to express an opinion

01:04:00.840 about these stones.

01:04:04.520 Um, and I, I even said to him, I said, what, what, what are we in North Korea?

01:04:08.600 I mean, I'm not allowed to have my own thoughts about this.

01:04:11.860 And what I'm saying, the information, he didn't like it at all that we were, that, that I was

01:04:18.860 saying that I, that I was suggesting that there was a, there, there was an Inti one, Inti

01:04:24.240 Guatana, uh, artifacts somewhere other than Machu Picchu or Peru and, and, and suggesting

01:04:32.540 thereby that, that Machu Picchu was not in fact built by the Inca, that it was built by

01:04:37.840 some other more ancient civilization, a lost civilization.

01:04:42.360 Um, and, and it clearly, and it clearly was not built by the Inca.

01:04:46.360 The foundations of Machu Picchu are megalithic.

01:04:48.720 And then you see where the Inca repaired those foundations and built on top of them.

01:04:51.800 And it's obviously inferior.

01:04:52.800 So, um, they found Machu Picchu and they built it up again.

01:05:00.220 And Machu Picchu, by the way, that's not the original name.

01:05:03.820 The natives called it Ijampu.

01:05:06.180 And Ijampu means the abode of the gods or the dwelling of the gods.

01:05:11.660 And why would they say that?

01:05:13.600 Why would they call this the abode of the gods?

01:05:15.520 Because of the megalithic ruins.

01:05:16.960 So, um, the Inca, I think very clearly found Machu Picchu in a ruined state, saw the megalithic

01:05:26.740 foundations, and, and assumed that the gods had built this place and had inhabited it.

01:05:32.840 And so obviously they were the offspring of the gods, the Inca, in their minds. 0.58

01:05:36.300 And, and, and so this was their legacy.

01:05:40.360 This was their heritage.

01:05:41.400 And so of course they're going to rebuild it and reoccupy it being the offspring of the gods. 0.80

01:05:45.500 Um, and I'm, and I think the name, the original name for the site reflects that Ijampu, the abode of the gods.

01:05:53.520 So, but long story short, this, this individual became very hostile with us, me and Andres, and threatened to kick us out and ban us for life.

01:06:04.960 And was basically pushing us out of the complex, just because we were saying, suggesting that, you know, the things I had, I, I've said.

01:06:15.240 So, um, there is definitely.

01:06:17.160 This is not something that they're doing because somehow what you're saying is, is dangerous, but more so because they're so sick and tired with this potential, like ancient aliens narrative.

01:06:30.520 And the West coming over and turning, you know, their culture into a history.

01:06:36.120 That's what this derived from this.

01:06:38.200 That's part of it.

01:06:39.120 Certainly.

01:06:40.080 It's certainly part of, but also there's a sanctioned narrative and it's, you know, in this day and age, they accuse you of racism.

01:06:47.800 If you say that the Inca didn't build this, um, you know, they'll tell you you're stripping us.

01:06:54.460 You're, why are you trying to strip us of our heritage?

01:06:56.460 Um, which is funny because the Peruvians are not the descendants of the Inca.

01:07:02.080 They're not.

01:07:03.660 So when they say, this is our heritage, it's really not their heritage.

01:07:07.100 The Inca subjugated their people.

01:07:09.300 The Inca were a bloodline.

01:07:11.080 They were, they look different.

01:07:13.140 I mean, you look at a picture of Altawapa on, uh, on, pull up an image of Altawapa on Google.

01:07:19.240 He was the, the Sapa Inca, the, the Inca emperor when the Spanish arrived, when, when, um, Francisco Pizarro arrived to Peru during the conquest of Peru.

01:07:30.440 He has a mustache and he's described by the chroniclers as being more fair skin and taller than the, this is not a, this is not commentary on race.

01:07:40.760 This is just historical fact.

01:07:42.660 And so the Inca were a bloodline.

01:07:45.280 It is not accurate to call all of the inhabitants of the Inca empire as, um, as Inca to, to, to denominate them all as Inca.

01:07:57.040 Rather, all of these different tribes were subjugated by the Inca.

01:08:04.640 And the Inca were a very particular bloodline.

01:08:08.360 They were, it was the royal family.

01:08:10.260 Only the royal family were the Inca.

01:08:13.020 And everyone else was whatever the tribe they happened to be.

01:08:15.660 In fact, in the city of Cusco, city of Cusco was divided into four quarters, just like the empire at large, the Tawantinsuyu, which had four sectors.

01:08:26.460 Uh, and, and the, and those sectors, by the way, correspond to the way that the city of, uh, Cusco is divided.

01:08:32.680 And I have this whole, uh, there, there, there's a lot you could say there, but, um, and in each sector, each tribe that lived in the city of Cusco subjugated to the Inca had to live and were confined to their sector of the city.

01:08:47.780 And by law, they had to dress in their, in their, uh, tribal garb.

01:08:52.980 So they had to dress the way their tribal people traditionally dress and they had to stay in their sector. 1.00

01:08:59.160 They were not Inca.

01:09:00.440 They were subjugated by the Inca.

01:09:01.860 The Inca lived in the palaces.

01:09:04.740 So, um, and some people, um, believe that the Inca, that at least some of the Inca had elongated skulls.

01:09:15.420 That, that, that particular race was an elongated skull race. 0.93

01:09:19.420 I don't know.

01:09:20.340 I haven't personally seen evidence of this.

01:09:22.040 Um, the images of the Inca kings, of the Inca princes and kings kind of, um, negates that theory because none of them depict any of the Inca with elongated skulls.

01:09:37.480 However, there are some indications that that might be true.

01:09:41.280 Um, and I saw you pulled up some pictures of Atahualpa.

01:09:46.420 There's a couple in particular where he has, he has a mustache and some where he doesn't, but there's a couple where he has a mustache.

01:09:52.540 And I saw one of Huascar that you pulled up.

01:09:55.260 Huascar doesn't have a mustache, but Huascar was just half brother.

01:09:59.800 There he is.

01:10:00.180 He's got a little, little dust.

01:10:01.400 He's got a mustache there.

01:10:02.000 He does have a little mustache.

01:10:03.320 What ultimately became of the actual Inca bloodline?

01:10:06.260 They were not, they were completely annihilated.

01:10:09.560 Genocide.

01:10:11.100 Hmm.

01:10:11.640 The Inca were genocided.

01:10:13.460 Um, so this, it's a false notion in Peru that, you know, the Peruvians hail from the Inca.

01:10:19.840 They don't.

01:10:20.900 They come from the other tribes that were subjugated by the Inca.

01:10:25.660 And, and, and that's not to disparage the Peruvian people at all.

01:10:28.980 These were all of these other tribes were remarkable in their own way, but the Inca empire, the Inca lineage is gone.

01:10:35.760 Um, it was, it was very purposely eradicated by the Spanish.

01:10:41.320 Um, so, uh, I don't know why I went down that path, but.

01:10:45.420 Well, we were originally going in this direction of whether or not there is, I guess it would have been the stories from the Inca that the megalithic site that they built upon were actually built by a race of giants.

01:11:05.760 The Inca have no commentary.

01:11:07.960 Well, they don't have any writing.

01:11:09.360 They don't have any writing.

01:11:10.900 They have what's called kippus. 0.98

01:11:13.060 And they have Yupana as well.

01:11:14.460 Yupana was their, was their system, uh, their mathematical system.

01:11:19.020 A kippus was their, you might call it writing, but it's not writing. 0.68

01:11:23.700 It's, it's, you've probably seen it.

01:11:25.300 It's like knots.

01:11:26.420 It's strings with knots in it.

01:11:27.940 And this was a very, very, very sophisticated, um, form of communication.

01:11:34.940 And only the Inca priests and, and the, and the royal bloodline were privy to kippus. 0.94

01:11:44.380 They're the only ones who could read it.

01:11:46.320 And, um, so there was no writing.

01:11:50.040 So we don't know what the Incas say about anything.

01:11:53.140 We can't read kippus. 0.98

01:11:55.380 Um, so we don't know.

01:11:56.620 We do know, however, what the Aymara people who are up in the, in the north by, uh, south

01:12:03.760 rather, they're south of Cusco by Puno.

01:12:06.200 They inhabited that area.

01:12:07.120 Very, very ancient people, the Aymara people and the Quechua people.

01:12:11.760 The Quechua were the inhabitants around the, uh, Cusco.

01:12:16.560 So, uh, and the Quechuans say that before the Inca came, that the walls of Sacsayhuaman, 0.56

01:12:27.800 the megalithic sites that you find in the Andes were constructed by the offspring of

01:12:32.660 the gods, the giants.

01:12:34.220 They'll say that the giants built them.

01:12:36.480 That's what they say.

01:12:37.120 The offspring of the gods.

01:12:38.460 Right.

01:12:38.780 So the, so Sacsayhuaman, for example, if you ask, and you can still find them in Cusco,

01:12:44.440 the, the older Quechuan people, some of them don't even speak Spanish.

01:12:48.200 They only speak Quechua.

01:12:50.080 And if you were to ask them who built these megalithic walls, they would tell you that

01:12:57.640 they were built by giants.

01:12:59.400 So, um, that's the, the lore of the pre-Inca people.

01:13:04.760 The, the, and again, the Inca never actually claimed that they built them.

01:13:08.040 So all of the, the walls around, uh, Machu Picchu, all of the, um, rather, what am I saying

01:13:18.020 here?

01:13:18.200 All of the megalithic foundations of Cusco, when you're actually walking in the city, I'm

01:13:26.580 not talking about Sacsayhuaman now, which is a mile outside of the city.

01:13:30.060 It's kind of, it's really part of Cusco, but when you're walking downtown in downtown Cusco

01:13:35.440 in the middle of the city, and you're walking through the streets, which is really remarkable

01:13:39.740 because as you're walking through the streets, you, you are bounded by massive, exquisite

01:13:47.460 megalithic walls.

01:13:51.100 And they're the majority of them, if not all of them, the, the, the largest ones are made

01:13:57.220 of green diorite.

01:13:59.580 And I know that the original megalithic foundations of my, of Cusco are green diorite.

01:14:05.000 I know that for a fact.

01:14:07.000 So, um, somebody was building there long before the Inca.

01:14:12.980 The Inca, what they received was a legacy.

01:14:16.100 They received information and knowledge from an older culture.

01:14:19.560 Now the Inca were very sophisticated Masons. 0.98

01:14:23.500 They were excellent Masons.

01:14:24.740 I always call the Inca the, the Romans of, of South America. 0.99

01:14:30.020 They very much like the Romans were, were incredible Masons and they, they were, they built amazing

01:14:36.760 aqueducts, just like the Romans, different kinds of aqueducts.

01:14:40.600 So they were, they were ingenious, um, they were ingenious farmers.

01:14:46.140 I mean, they, they invented some, some absolutely incredible agricultural technologies and they

01:14:55.660 were a very sophisticated, remarkable civilization.

01:14:59.200 So I'm not trying to take anything away from the Inca.

01:15:01.120 Would you say invented or imparted?

01:15:02.980 I would say that the, this, the Inca were in possession of unusual knowledge.

01:15:13.320 That's evident, but they didn't build the megaliths.

01:15:16.220 And let's, let's, let's take one example in particular, the walls of Sacsayhuaman.

01:15:21.560 You go to Peru, uh, Cusco rather, you go to the walls of Sacsayhuaman, some of the most 1.00

01:15:28.120 impressive megalithic walls, maybe the most impressive megalithic walls on earth.

01:15:33.220 And everybody says they were built by the Inca.

01:15:36.500 Where's the proof that they were built by the Inca?

01:15:38.280 None.

01:15:38.500 There is no proof.

01:15:39.460 The doorways at Sacsayhuaman, and this is not always the case with megaliths, by the way,

01:15:44.040 but the doorways at Sacsayhuaman are immense.

01:15:46.620 They're built for nine, the, the, you could, a nine foot tall person, even a 10 foot tall

01:15:52.600 person in some cases can pass through those doorways.

01:15:55.100 And, and you'll notice the steps, the steps that go up through the citadel of Sacsayhuaman

01:16:00.020 are, are spaced unusually far apart.

01:16:04.600 So, uh, I'm six foot one, my, my stride, those stairs were not built for a guy of my size.

01:16:14.360 If, if, if those stairs were, were built the way we build stairs, where you sort of take

01:16:20.220 a stride on each step, then you're looking at a nine foot tall guy, uh, which would correspond

01:16:26.080 to the doors.

01:16:27.660 Um, and I think Sacsayhuaman is unique in, in this aspect that it, it, it looks like it

01:16:34.640 was built for very large people.

01:16:36.780 Whereas Ojante Tambo doesn't, by the way, which is also an exquisite megalithic site.

01:16:40.500 Um, but in the case of Sacsayhuaman, it does.

01:16:44.120 And what's, what's really important is to understand that there is no direct evidence

01:16:50.780 that the Inca built Sacsayhuaman, none.

01:16:53.020 In fact, there is direct evidence to the contrary.

01:16:55.260 That's never, never been published officially.

01:16:58.200 I have a friend, um, a good friend of mine named Anselm P. Rambla, who's a Spanish explorer

01:17:03.380 and, um, has, uh, has, has done archeology.

01:17:07.800 He's not an archeologist, but he's worked with archeology.

01:17:09.540 He's had an archeologist on his team and they were given permission to excavate around Sacsayhuaman.

01:17:18.800 And it's all documented.

01:17:21.040 And when they were, they were digging into the foundations of Sacsayhuaman and when they 0.99

01:17:28.280 went deep into the foundations, cause a lot of that citadel is still buried.

01:17:34.960 When they dug down deep into the foundations, he discovered pre-Incan artifacts.

01:17:45.040 That's it.

01:17:46.700 That's it.

01:17:47.540 That's conclusive evidence that the Inca didn't build Sacsayhuaman, that somebody else did because

01:17:53.780 you have pre-Inca artifacts at the foundation, which means that those walls were standing when

01:18:01.580 a pre-Incan civilization occupied that area before the Inca.

01:18:07.800 So what happens when their historical centers get a, get a hold of that sort of information?

01:18:13.320 Well, they'll never, they'll never concede that in Peru because their whole,

01:18:16.860 the whole industry, the tourism industry is, is established on the Inca empire.

01:18:25.040 So they want all of these major sites to be Inca, not everything.

01:18:28.320 You know, you have the Moche civilization, you have the Paracas civilization, you have all 1.00

01:18:31.180 different kinds of civilizations that have their own ruins.

01:18:33.840 But, but, but, but as it pertains to Cusco in the, in the Andes mountains, it's the Inca, it's the Inca empire.

01:18:40.240 And to attribute the walls of Sacsayhuaman to a pre-Incan culture, it's almost sacrilegious to them.

01:18:49.480 And it, it, it deflates their narrative.

01:18:52.460 And I'm not saying that a, an inferior pre-Inca culture built those walls.

01:18:59.360 What I'm saying is that an inferior pre-Inca culture inhabited that area while those walls were standing. 1.00

01:19:08.380 Those walls, in my estimation, were built in the antediluvian age by a remarkable civilization that was destroyed in the cataclysm.

01:19:17.100 And, and they were using the same kind of technology and knowledge seen all over the world on every continent.

01:19:22.580 So the point is that we, there's artifacts.

01:19:27.280 Anselm documented the artifacts.

01:19:28.940 He took pictures.

01:19:29.760 There were archaeologists on the scene.

01:19:31.620 There were pot, there's pottery shards.

01:19:33.560 There's artifacts of pre-Incan civilizations down when you dig down into the strata and you get down to the foundations.

01:19:43.380 So, so that right there is, is, um, evidence that, that the Inca didn't build those walls.

01:19:53.940 But, but you'll never see that.

01:19:55.560 You'll never hear that.

01:19:56.820 In fact, here in the United States, I'm probably the only person who knows.

01:20:00.380 Um, but Anselm P. Ramla has documented it and, and, and, um, and did great work over there.

01:20:06.040 And I could talk for hours about, uh, about Anselm P. Ramla.

01:20:09.320 But, um, so that just gives you an idea of, of how misconstrued some of these megalithic sites are in regard to their, in regard to the conventional narrative.

01:20:20.080 That's, that's, that's literally just concocted to explain their existence.

01:20:25.820 Um, and, uh, there's, so, there's so much you could, you, you could say about these megalithic sites.

01:20:31.020 Um, I do believe that there, there, there was a post-flood culture that could still build megaliths on a smaller scale.

01:20:41.100 There was one, the Phoenicians, but aside from the Phoenicians, by the way, who built Solomon's temple?

01:20:49.360 The Phoenicians, um, who circumvented, uh, circumnavigated Africa? 0.96

01:20:55.400 The Phoenicians, who built the battleships in the, in the, uh, and the, the, and the, the, so much of the great palaces in, in Egypt, the Phoenicians.

01:21:05.800 So the Phoenicians are, are a, a, an important key to unlocking some of the mysteries of the post-flood ancient world.

01:21:13.760 But the Phoenicians, they were the only ones in a, in a post-flood context, as far as I can tell, who could approximate the skill, uh, the abilities of the masons that, that preceded them in the, in the antediluvian world.

01:21:28.500 And, and also, by the way, the Phoenicians, there were giants among the Phoenicians, and they had a cult of giant worship.

01:21:36.140 Now, do you think, uh, so I was, that was the question I was actually going to ask.

01:21:42.400 Is it, uh, was it, is it the people or is it the knowledge that they then are imparted by their predecessors or their lowercase g gods?

01:21:51.800 Because, uh, it kind of does draw some overlaps with, uh, for me, with what's been going on with the UFO narrative where, where reverse engineering some of this stuff that has been left behind, crashed here purposefully, or whatever you'd like to think about it.

01:22:07.800 We, we are working with this technology.

01:22:10.660 It's, it's, it's of my opinion that we're using it right now to talk, because I don't know exactly where you are, but David's about two hours from where I am, and this is a miracle.

01:22:18.820 None of this stuff is even connected with, with wire.

01:22:21.300 It's kind of going through the air somehow.

01:22:23.600 Um, where do, where do aliens fall into this for you?

01:22:27.540 Or at least.

01:22:28.260 Are you mean specifically, are you talking about in an ancient context or are you talking about like just in general?

01:22:33.480 Yeah, the current, well, whatever, whatever the narrative is today.

01:22:37.800 Okay, let me, let me, let me address both, both, both of those things.

01:22:42.140 First, in an ancient context, I said that the, the premise of ancient aliens is true.

01:22:49.040 The premise, the premise of ancient aliens is that mankind has been in contact with extraterrestrial beings since the beginning.

01:22:56.420 That's a, that is a biblical fact.

01:23:00.060 That's a biblical fact.

01:23:01.340 That's not ancient astronaut theory.

01:23:02.880 That is a biblical fact.

01:23:05.720 Um, now.

01:23:07.800 They get out, they get off into the weeds, uh, after that, but, but I, but I want everyone to realize that that is indeed true.

01:23:13.340 Now that does not mean that aliens built the pyramids or aliens built this or that.

01:23:18.200 No, no. 0.98

01:23:20.100 That I think is ridiculous. 0.61

01:23:22.120 Um, so I'll leave that there.

01:23:23.800 But in regard to the phenomenon today, um, I think it's, it's evident that there is an alien presence.

01:23:38.180 And I use the word alien very purposely.

01:23:41.240 Um, alien simply means.

01:23:44.360 Let's make it, let's make it, um, specific to sentient beings.

01:23:52.760 Okay.

01:23:53.020 Cause you can have an amoeba on Mars.

01:23:55.080 That's technically an alien species, right?

01:23:56.900 Uh, in regard to conscious beings, alien is simply a race of conscious beings.

01:24:04.300 That is not us.

01:24:06.040 That is not the human species.

01:24:08.500 So any conscious beings that inhabit the earth that are not the human race are alien to the human race.

01:24:23.040 Now that, that applies whether those creatures, whether those entities are from Mars or whether they're from the inner earth or whether they're from some extra dimensional reality, right?

01:24:37.900 So that, that term applies.

01:24:40.320 Extraterrestrial is much more definitive.

01:24:42.780 Extraterrestrial is a being whose provenance is not planet earth.

01:24:48.260 So that's different.

01:24:49.900 So an extraterrestrial is not from here.

01:24:53.820 Now you could have extraterrestrial beings who have been inhabiting the earth longer than the human species, right?

01:25:02.320 They would still be extraterrestrial if they did, if they didn't originate here, even if they've been inhabiting the planet longer than us.

01:25:09.460 That's an important thing to keep in mind when you, when you, when you are exposed to the, the many, many different theories of, uh, in, in the, in ufology.

01:25:21.140 Um, in regard to these entities, in regard to these, the, the, the alien presence, as I call it.

01:25:27.820 So there is an alien presence.

01:25:30.140 There's no question that there's an alien presence.

01:25:33.180 Um, the nature of that presence, the provenance of those beings that can be debated.

01:25:37.980 Um, and I don't know if I'm answering your question, but you know, there's a whole lot of, and I'm sure in the, in the, in the comments of these kinds of discussions, you're going to get the usual fare.

01:25:50.380 You're going to, you're going to get the people who say not the aliens are just extraterrestrial, uh, extradimensionals, uh, not extraterrestrial, extradimensional, or aliens are just demons, blah, blah, blah.

01:26:03.740 Those are very easy, simple explanations for something that's very complex.

01:26:08.100 And therefore those are very inaccurate explanations.

01:26:11.560 So, um, there's this contention that this alien presence, these entities with whom humanity is interacting.

01:26:26.200 And interacting today in a very physical way, we're talking about physical craft, reverse engineering of tangible technology, interfacing with physical beings.

01:26:39.760 Um, that's the kind of interaction I'm talking about.

01:26:42.460 Not like psychic interaction or something like that.

01:26:44.780 I'm talking about physical interaction.

01:26:47.340 There's this notion that people want to write off what's called the extraterrestrial hypothesis, completely write it off and say, no, no, no.

01:26:55.940 These are extradimensionals or ultra terrestrials, or, you know, again, they come from the inner earth, whatever.

01:27:01.460 The problem is that we know that the craft, their craft is capable of traversing outer space.

01:27:12.460 And obviously I'm going to be triggering all the flat earthers here, but, um, that their craft is capable of, of, of traversing through our upper atmosphere.

01:27:25.340 And in, in, in, in, uh, outside of the atmosphere of earth.

01:27:30.500 We know that because there have been credible, legitimate, uh, video evidence and photographic evidence, evidence of, of UFO craft, including saucers out there.

01:27:41.680 So, so it's, so for me, I'm going to say that the alien presence is at least extraterrestrial.

01:27:52.940 Why do I say that?

01:27:53.820 Because if they can fly around in the, in, in, in, in the, uh, in outer space, then what's going to inhibit them from flying to Mars or having a base on Mars or originating from Mars or any of the other planets in our solar system?

01:28:10.060 Nothing is the answer.

01:28:10.980 Nothing.

01:28:11.460 Absolutely nothing.

01:28:12.100 So, um, I think at least we're dealing with extraterrestrials in the sense that they're not originally from the earth.

01:28:23.760 Now, are they inhabiting the earth?

01:28:25.480 And, you know, there could be very, various groups here, but are they inhabiting the earth?

01:28:29.280 I think the answer there is also clearly yes, because I think it's, if you do, if you delve into deep into ufology, um, you're going to encounter, I think, sufficient evidence to deduce that let's be specific to gray aliens.

01:28:47.620 For example, gray aliens have bases in the earth and under the sea. 0.70

01:28:51.140 I think that's evident.

01:28:53.060 So they're here.

01:28:55.060 Um, and they're both inhabiting the earth.

01:28:59.280 And also have the capability to go elsewhere, presumably in the, in the solar system.

01:29:05.060 So, um, so you see, you have a very complex picture here.

01:29:09.040 There are no easy answers in regard to extra.

01:29:12.460 And I know you didn't ask me this question, but this is where my brain went for whatever reason.

01:29:15.560 In regard to extra, to extra dimensional hypotheses.

01:29:21.040 I'm open to this.

01:29:22.460 Certainly.

01:29:23.020 I do believe there are more than, uh, I subscribe to the, to, to, uh,

01:29:28.620 the extra spatial hypothesis.

01:29:33.260 In other words, that there are more than three dimensions, physical dimensions, something like string theory, where there's, you know, 10 different dimensions to our reality that we currently reside in, that we just can't perceive.

01:29:45.780 So I do subscribe to that.

01:29:47.380 I don't subscribe to alternate world theory.

01:29:50.960 I don't subscribe to the notion that there are, uh, multi, a multiverse, which obviously the MCU and so many of the popular movies that have come out in the last 10 years have, have made, made great use of this multiverse idea.

01:30:08.400 But, uh, yeah, that premise really caught fire, huh?

01:30:11.160 Yeah.

01:30:11.340 Way too much too, because if they're conflating a bunch of different theories, the multiverse is different than, than an alternative world theory.

01:30:19.600 It's, it's not the same.

01:30:21.040 And it's not the same as hyperspace theory, which is what I said, that extras, there are extraspatial dimensions to the reality that we inhabit.

01:30:28.840 That's called hyperspace. 0.99

01:30:30.600 And, uh, I, I, I believe in hyperspace.

01:30:33.500 I think that's, uh, I think that's part of the fundamental reality of, of our world that we inhabit.

01:30:39.260 But, but this idea of multiverse, that's completely different.

01:30:45.060 That is a totally different idea.

01:30:46.760 And then obviously alternate realities, alternate, um, worlds are, are worlds that are not within our, are not within the known universe.

01:30:59.060 They're like, they're outside of the known universe.

01:31:01.720 These are all different ideas.

01:31:03.580 They really are.

01:31:04.480 They're different theories that, that movies just, they just compress them all together and they confuse the hell out of everybody.

01:31:14.320 Um, and so when someone says, oh, these are extra dimensional beings, well, what exactly do you mean by extra dimension?

01:31:23.780 Are you saying that they're coming from a multiverse?

01:31:25.820 Are you saying they're coming from like an alternate universe like Narnia?

01:31:29.460 Are you saying that they're able to access the full spectrum of hyperspace of our hyperspatial reality?

01:31:38.360 But that's still our universe, mind you.

01:31:40.760 That's still our universe.

01:31:41.960 What are you saying?

01:31:43.300 And the reality is that most people who use that term don't have any idea what they're saying.

01:31:49.020 And so they take this and, and forgive me for the rant here, but they take this, this very plausible, rational explanation, the extra terrestrial hypothesis, and they throw it in the garbage in favor of an extra dimensional hypothesis, which they do not understand.

01:32:07.940 And nobody really does because we have no idea what another dimension looks like or what, what entities coming from another dimension would look like or how they would act or how they would operate.

01:32:21.940 We have no idea because all bets are off when you talk about a multiverse, for example.

01:32:27.200 You could be talking about a plane of existence where all of the laws of physics are different.

01:32:31.760 I do not subscribe to that.

01:32:32.940 I do not believe that's real.

01:32:34.000 That is fantasy as far as I'm concerned.

01:32:35.460 So, so, so if that's the case, then all you, this is a realm of speculation that, that requires imagination really.

01:32:46.440 And, and, and I'm not discounting that there's, there's maybe something to this extra dimensional hypothesis, not multiverse and not alternative world theory.

01:32:57.500 I reject those two on biblical grounds.

01:33:00.100 And that's another conversation.

01:33:02.080 Hyperspatial reality.

01:33:03.280 Yes.

01:33:04.300 Um, and so these are, it's very important that, that, that people don't try and simplify something that's very complex because you lose the granularity of it.

01:33:14.920 You, it's a very low resolution perspective.

01:33:17.400 And so, um, in regard to who these entities are, well, there's things that we know about them.

01:33:22.420 I'm not sure if this was even your question.

01:33:23.920 There's things that we know about them.

01:33:25.800 We know that they have nuts and bolts, bolts technology that we can recover and reverse engineer.

01:33:31.560 And people might say, well, what makes you think you know that we know that.

01:33:35.640 And you can spend three hours explaining why it's, it's, it's really conclusive that that's the fact that that's the reality.

01:33:44.580 We know they're physical beings, at least some of them, we know that they're using technology.

01:33:49.100 We know that they die, um, and it can be killed in fact.

01:33:55.080 So, so we're dealing with a physical reality and they are, are abiding by at least some of what we understand as the laws of physics.

01:34:07.300 They're not entering into our reality and doing whatever they want.

01:34:10.720 Like, like, like the genie from Aladdin.

01:34:14.440 So we know these things.

01:34:16.660 And so the, the extra, and we, as I said before, we also know that their capabilities are such that they can easily maneuver outside of our atmosphere.

01:34:26.420 And just as, just as they have bases on the earth, it, it, it, it seems rational to conclude that they have bases elsewhere in the solar system.

01:34:36.580 They certainly have the technology apparently to, to, um, to traverse the air in the same way that they traverse the water.

01:34:46.280 This is apparent.

01:34:47.640 And even in the documentation, uh, that's been released by the government, when a saucer goes into the sea, when it goes into the water, it moves through the water in the same way it moves through the air.

01:35:00.240 In other words, the water, there is no impedance or the water whatsoever.

01:35:05.220 It's because it's not moving through the air in the same way it's like, uh, the technology is kind of like actually dragging it forward rather than propelling it forward.

01:35:13.740 That's at least what I've understood from Bob Lazar and what he said.

01:35:17.200 The space time, space time, it's not moving.

01:35:23.440 It's, it's not moving through matter.

01:35:28.020 It's moving space time around it.

01:35:30.660 So that's why it's moving the atmosphere around it.

01:35:36.020 It's moving, it's bending space time.

01:35:38.800 So water and air, it doesn't matter because it's literally bending, moving all resistance.

01:35:45.420 There's no resistance.

01:35:46.380 There's no friction, right?

01:35:48.020 It's not moving through the air.

01:35:49.580 It's not actually moving through the water.

01:35:51.320 It's moving that matter around it.

01:35:54.020 Mr.

01:35:54.420 Albarino, um, before, cause I want to respect your time and we've actually gone five minutes over them.

01:35:58.680 I apologize for this.

01:36:00.660 Uh, this, uh, rant.

01:36:01.940 No, this is fantastic.

01:36:03.120 No, no, no.

01:36:03.780 We're just doing this for your sake.

01:36:05.760 I got time for it.

01:36:06.700 Yeah.

01:36:07.200 I don't, I want to respect it.

01:36:08.520 It's, it's amazing that you came on here to talk with us to begin with.

01:36:11.520 So I do thank you for that.

01:36:13.020 Uh, tremendous.

01:36:14.060 Thank you.

01:36:14.580 Um, where do you put the idea?

01:36:16.900 Sorry, just before, you know, you have to go or anything.

01:36:19.080 Where do you put the idea of, uh, accounts saying when people are being abducted or, uh, uh, experiencing sleep paralysis, the name of Jesus Christ breaks that, that occurrence from happening?

01:36:31.420 I would never discount that.

01:36:34.640 And I would never, I would never, um, accuse somebody of lying.

01:36:39.960 They tell me that that, that that is, has happened.

01:36:43.180 However, um, the problem is that we have a lot of data from abductees accrued over decades by competent researchers.

01:36:52.460 And within this body of data, there are many, many, many accounts.

01:36:56.560 I shouldn't say many, many, many.

01:36:57.880 There are numerous accounts, uh, in which, in which Christians are enthusiastically rebuking their abductees, uh, abductors, rather, in the name of Jesus to no effect.

01:37:13.780 Interesting.

01:37:14.500 And in fact, there are some very interesting scenarios in which one case, for example, I believe this is in the work of Carla Turner, the late Dr. Carla Turner, in which, um, an individual is rebuking the abductors.

01:37:27.780 It's in the name of Jesus vociferously, enthusiastically, and the grays simply disappear for a minute and come back with Jesus. 1.00

01:37:36.660 And Jesus says, that's okay.

01:37:38.880 They're with me.

01:37:39.900 Obviously not Christ, but, but a, a, a, a, in other words, they saw that the abduct, the abductee was distraught, was rebuking them in the name of Jesus.

01:37:52.320 So they wanted to, um, diffuse this abductee's panic and fear.

01:37:57.700 And so they bring in a Jesus-like figure, probably a hybrid, um, that with, and I believe this figure had blonde hair and a beard and bright blue eyes and, and was, was, um, um, um, comforting this abductee saying, no, it's okay.

01:38:14.360 They're with me.

01:38:16.160 They're not here to harm you.

01:38:17.800 They work for me, that sort of thing.

01:38:19.580 So there's all kinds of stuff like that.

01:38:21.260 I've heard, I'm not saying that was Jesus.

01:38:22.800 I'm saying that was, that was, uh, um, that was a deception.

01:38:27.660 Even from one of our members, I believe, uh, stories similar to that, where they will have, it almost seems like it's within the rules for them to, uh, replicate or deceive.

01:38:37.180 Just so long as they can get the consent to do so.

01:38:40.920 Well, I've got, you know, so that's, that's what I told you there.

01:38:44.120 And there may be sense to what you just said, but there's, there's, what I just cited is stuff that is a particular story that comes out of the data that comes out of, out of the abduction material.

01:38:54.340 Um, but then, then I also have plenty of people who I know personally, people who I can attest to that are genuine, sincere believers in Christ who are abductees and who rebuke and, and so forth.

01:39:11.060 And, and to no avail, they get abducted.

01:39:14.500 Um, but, but here's the, here's the main thing.

01:39:16.620 Okay.

01:39:16.880 And this is what people, this gets lost in the conversation.

01:39:19.480 Most abductees are already incapacitated before the greys arrive. 0.89

01:39:24.640 You don't even have an opportunity to rebuke.

01:39:27.460 You're already incapacitated.

01:39:29.400 In most cases, in fact, the greys are going to come abduct you in most cases, not always, but in most cases, before they arrive, you're out of it.

01:39:38.660 You're already ready to go.

01:39:40.760 So to speak, they come in, they collect you.

01:39:43.100 They've already incapacitated you most likely through the implants.

01:39:47.140 So, um, this notion that the greys show up and you have all this energy to be able to, you know, rebuke and this and that.

01:39:54.400 Sorry, wait a second.

01:39:55.420 You just, you just.

01:39:56.800 Most likely, most likely through the implants.

01:39:58.900 Just gloss over that.

01:40:00.040 What are you saying?

01:40:01.060 The, the implants that the, the greys implant the abductees with very small, about the size of a pill, um, technological device. 0.93

01:40:09.480 And I think that part of the, it could have many functions, but, but one of the, one of the most obvious functions would be to control the nervous system.

01:40:17.140 And, and other functions of the human body and mind and to render the abductee in a state of, um, um, in a state of compliance, right.

01:40:30.400 Or, or, or, or incapacitation.

01:40:32.560 In other words, you show up, the greys show up and the abductee is just out of it, ready to go.

01:40:39.040 And they come and collect the abductee.

01:40:40.720 And that's not always the case.

01:40:42.120 And it depends, by the way, um, the proximity of the craft has a lot to do with this.

01:40:48.740 So can we hold that thought for a minute?

01:40:51.920 Can I take a one minute break here?

01:40:53.620 All right.

01:40:53.940 Absolutely.

01:40:54.640 Talk amongst yourselves.

01:40:56.680 All right.

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01:42:38.660 You know what, Jacob, I will say you're correct, but we're not sub 100.

01:42:43.380 We have over 100 on Rumble.

01:42:44.920 And from Twitter, the total count probably, total count right now is 500-something, whatever.

01:42:51.440 So it's spread out among a couple of places.

01:42:54.440 Mr. Albarino's back.

01:42:56.020 I'm back.

01:42:57.640 Smooth transition.

01:42:58.620 That was perfect timing.

01:42:59.580 We had the opportunity to run an ad.

01:43:01.620 And so what were we talking about before we dismounted here?

01:43:04.540 I think we were talking about rebuking aliens in the name of Jesus.

01:43:10.660 I think that's what we're talking about.

01:43:12.040 The question I had here, so what do you, in your opinion, what is their intention?

01:43:16.740 Because every time I look at it, it does seem malicious in some sort of way.

01:43:20.640 Like being abducted in general is malicious.

01:43:23.720 It kind of goes against, it's kidnapping.

01:43:26.280 It goes against our code of ethics.

01:43:27.320 So what are these things doing, in your opinion?

01:43:29.640 Well, I would subscribe to Dr. Jacob's final analysis, which is planetary acquisition.

01:43:36.000 I believe that the Greys are interested in planetary acquisition.

01:43:38.700 Jeez.

01:43:39.900 And that is their ultimate goal.

01:43:44.320 And I always liken them to the antithesis of the Borg from Star Trek.

01:43:48.580 So in other words, the opposite of the Borg.

01:43:50.400 And if the Trekkies out there will understand what I'm saying, the Borg were this, they were cyborgs.

01:43:58.040 And they would subdue and assimilate other civilizations into their own collective. 0.98

01:44:09.560 So they would take all of the civilizational knowledge and technology and incorporate it into their cyborg collective and do so overtly.

01:44:19.320 Hostile, overt, takeover, right?

01:44:21.960 Well, the Greys are the opposite of that.

01:44:24.280 The Greys do the very opposite.

01:44:25.520 That the Greys assimilate themselves into your civilization and take over in a subversive way, a covert way. 0.97

01:44:35.900 And when I say assimilate themselves into your civilization, also they assimilate themselves into your genome. 0.92

01:44:41.980 So they create hybrids that are advanced hybrids that are nearly indistinguishable from regular human beings. 0.97

01:44:51.700 And for what purpose?

01:44:53.640 I mean, we could speculate maybe some of the why they might do this, many different reasons.

01:45:06.080 But ultimately, ultimately, I think the overarching objective here is planetary acquisition.

01:45:12.620 So, and that is the Greys.

01:45:14.860 It does overlap with, I mean, what were the intentions of the Fallen, of the original Watchers when they intermingle with men?

01:45:24.620 It was to taint a gene pool. 0.57

01:45:27.300 It was for dominion over Earth to take our birthright.

01:45:29.740 Like these motives seem to overlap.

01:45:32.180 Would you consider current aliens, extraterrestrials to be some sort of Nephilim?

01:45:38.340 No, I don't think so.

01:45:42.360 No, because, I mean, that's kind of an interesting question, but...

01:45:46.800 It's a loaded question.

01:45:47.840 I'm sorry, I'll be back one second.

01:45:51.460 I can say that with confidence that aliens, the Greys, let's be specific.

01:45:56.900 So the Greys, so when I say aliens, I'm talking about the Greys.

01:46:01.560 Aliens are not demons.

01:46:03.520 That is a false equivalency.

01:46:06.340 They are not demons.

01:46:09.800 And the reason why people get all up in arms about that statement is because they have a westernized perspective of what a demon is.

01:46:17.460 And it's very ambiguous.

01:46:20.600 It's an amorphous thing, evil, malevolent, grotesque creature.

01:46:27.580 That's what it means in the Western Christian mind. 0.83

01:46:31.160 But that's invented.

01:46:32.220 That is the product of medieval Christianity. 0.77

01:46:37.480 If you're going to, in your statement, aliens are demons, if what you mean by demons is the biblical sense of demon, then you're only talking about the disembodied spirits of dead giants.

01:46:54.320 The spirits of the Nephilim, which are the unclean spirits in the New Testament. 0.89

01:46:58.420 That's it.

01:46:59.440 And those are the inhabiting spirits.

01:47:01.480 Those are the possessing spirits.

01:47:05.040 And we know how those spirits manifest in the world.

01:47:07.580 We know.

01:47:07.900 When those spirits inhabit somebody, that person is lost to madness.

01:47:14.520 They have epilocy, epilocy, how do you say that?

01:47:19.060 They're throwing themselves in the New Testament of the fire, rolling around, foaming from the mouth, screaming, breaking chains. 0.97

01:47:25.700 These are unhinged.

01:47:28.460 These individuals are unhinged when they're inhabited by these demons.

01:47:31.800 And so, you know, all you have to really do is analyze the disposition of the gray alien over and against the disposition of an unclean spirit in the New Testament.

01:47:42.240 And you tell me, do these things look similar?

01:47:45.820 And the answer is no.

01:47:46.880 They couldn't be more dissimilar.

01:47:49.180 Gray aliens are dispassionate and robotic and very, very much controlled beings who do not display. 1.00

01:48:04.180 They're not emotive.

01:48:05.300 They don't display emotion.

01:48:07.500 On the other hand, you have unclean spirits in the New Testament, demons, which are, as I said, unhinged and ravenous and screaming and writhing.

01:48:15.900 And people say, well, the gray aliens are the meat suits for the demons.

01:48:21.020 But that doesn't make any sense either because you're dealing with the same problem.

01:48:24.560 Why would these unclean spirits manifest in one way a human being and in a completely opposite way in a gray alien?

01:48:31.380 Somebody explain that to me.

01:48:33.060 Look, if you're going to concoct a theory, fine.

01:48:36.840 But the theory's got to be rational.

01:48:38.780 I mean, it's got to be because the if these were to be sort of a biotech meat suit, that they are limited in their capacity for expression in comparison to God's creation.

01:48:57.760 Why?

01:48:59.240 And number one, why?

01:49:00.260 Number two, why do they want to be in there?

01:49:02.740 I don't think they do.

01:49:04.060 Why would they want to be in there? 0.99

01:49:05.340 The gray aliens don't even have sexual organs. 1.00

01:49:06.960 The theory would go that they are, I suppose, entrapped in this realm, right?

01:49:15.220 Tartarus.

01:49:16.280 And that they cannot, almost like Al Capone controlling the mob from prison, where he can't be on the outside, but he can still kind of pull the strings.

01:49:27.760 And so the idea is that...

01:49:28.800 Who's Al Capone in this scenario?

01:49:31.140 Al Capone, I suppose, would be like the fallen, right?

01:49:33.820 And so that through some technological means, no, like the fallen that are locked in Tartarus.

01:49:39.380 Okay, so the watchers.

01:49:40.980 Yeah, the watchers, I'm sorry.

01:49:42.640 And so the idea would be that they can enter this realm through some limited technological means outside of just inhabiting a person, possessing a person, that they can, I suppose, get here through technology, right?

01:49:58.960 And sometimes Top and I talk about how it seems as though, if you go back through history, there are always these moments where society is pushed forward a little bit through some sort of technological advancement.

01:50:12.640 And that oftentimes it comes in the form of like some lowercase g-god teaching you agriculture, teaching a people agriculture, or, you know, fast forward to the Roswell crash, whether or not, like Top alluded to earlier, that was on purpose or not, isn't really the point.

01:50:31.120 The point is we recovered some technology from that, and that maybe that technology informs the technology that we use today.

01:50:38.840 And so if you're going, this is obviously theory, right?

01:50:43.040 We have no tangible evidence to support this theory.

01:50:45.360 But the idea is that maybe there has always been a push to get society to a technological level, advanced enough that something on the other side of the veil could utilize this technology.

01:50:58.660 You know, you look at situations like Stargates, and I know I'm dragging you into the weeds here and kind of unprovable jargon.

01:51:07.540 Welcome to the show.

01:51:08.280 Right.

01:51:08.540 I'm speculating myself.

01:51:10.340 So, you know, I have a hard time, I have a hard time putting, like, biblically, putting where these aliens would fall, because they're certainly important in how the next couple of years are going to play out.

01:51:24.320 Like, there's just been too much, like, in the past hundred years, too much back and forth.

01:51:29.740 And, like, just dangling around this UFO, extraterrestrial, extradimensional, it seems like we're being prepared for something.

01:51:37.820 Like, something's about to happen, and it seems big.

01:51:41.960 How vivid would your portrait of reality be if you were limited to three crayons to color in that reality?

01:52:06.880 Say, you were coloring a portrait of reality, trying to be as accurate as possible, but you're limited to three, let's say, markers, three different colors.

01:52:17.720 Okay?

01:52:18.300 That's what we're dealing with right now.

01:52:19.860 So, we, the Christian community, because, and rightly so, we are based, we are anchored into the biblical narrative, we assume that everything that happens around us in the universe has a direct explanation inside of this text, the 66 books of the Bible.

01:52:47.860 So, every kind of being that one might encounter in the universe, therefore, would have to be an angel, a demon, a human, or God, basically.

01:53:04.020 Right?

01:53:04.800 And so, that's what I'm talking about.

01:53:05.940 So, you've got, like, four colors here that you can use to color in this portrait of reality, and it's just woefully inaccurate.

01:53:16.180 So, we have this desire, and we feel that we are constrained to explain everything, all of reality, the compendium of reality, using four terms.

01:53:36.320 Let's, let's be more specific.

01:53:39.180 The compendium of all consciousness in the universe, we feel constrained to describe all of it with four words, angel, demon, human, God.

01:53:47.400 And I'm saying that is woefully inaccurate.

01:53:52.520 I think we can, we can disabuse ourselves of this constraint.

01:53:59.540 We can take the word demon, and we can apply it accurately to where we see demons in the New Testament, the Old Testament, New Testament, really, and understand that that's a thing.

01:54:09.640 And then we can take this term, angel, not fallen angel, by the way.

01:54:14.700 That's, I understand what the term means, but that's not a biblical term.

01:54:17.020 So, we take this term, angel, or sons of God, and we can slot that over here where it's appropriate because we can understand it in regard to the biblical narrative.

01:54:27.620 God, obviously, that's an easy one.

01:54:29.680 Right?

01:54:30.120 And then human beings, that's easy too.

01:54:31.640 We can put all of those in their places and then allow for a whole panoply of other things to exist also.

01:54:44.000 And I think that we have to do that.

01:54:46.600 So, there is no reason in my mind, there's no rational, no justifiable rationale in my mind to associate a New Testament unclean spirit, which is a demon, with a gray alien.

01:55:05.400 I don't have to make that association.

01:55:07.040 I'm not compelled to make that association.

01:55:11.200 What is a gray alien?

01:55:12.820 A gray alien is a gray alien.

01:55:15.420 That's what it is.

01:55:17.220 Now, is it entirely biological?

01:55:20.140 Probably not.

01:55:21.040 Is it entirely mechanical or the product of artificial intelligence?

01:55:24.400 Probably not.

01:55:25.060 It's probably a composite.

01:55:27.700 I would say it's likely a composite.

01:55:29.740 It's some sort of a cybernetic biological creature.

01:55:34.960 Possibly, there's an AI hive mind there.

01:55:37.420 Maybe.

01:55:37.820 I don't know.

01:55:38.660 Nobody does.

01:55:39.760 It is physical.

01:55:41.340 Is it a meat suit?

01:55:43.060 Is it just a suit for something?

01:55:46.260 Well, I don't know.

01:55:48.340 It's maybe.

01:55:48.980 But that's just, I mean, there's no way to answer that question definitively one way or another.

01:55:54.440 But what we can understand is the disposition of the gray.

01:56:00.540 What is it like?

01:56:01.720 What does it do? 1.00

01:56:03.500 Can you kill it? 0.92

01:56:04.480 So, we can answer those three questions definitively. 1.00

01:56:10.220 It's dispassionate and robotic.

01:56:14.300 The grays are occupied, for the most part, with processing abductees. 1.00

01:56:21.140 And yes, you can kill them. 1.00

01:56:23.580 Now, are you going to be able to? 1.00

01:56:24.680 No.

01:56:25.460 But yes, you can, because they die.

01:56:27.140 So, I have a friend who is an abductee who reached out and grabbed a gray by the neck and squeezed its neck to choke it. 0.96

01:56:35.960 But she went unconscious, which is always going to be the case.

01:56:39.060 But let's assume that maybe this gray, for whatever reason, could not incapacitate her.

01:56:44.780 Could she have choked that thing to death or snapped its neck? 0.99

01:56:47.580 I'm sure she could have. 0.55

01:56:49.200 So, these are things we know.

01:56:53.100 And when I say we know, and I'm, of course, referencing the abduction material and people who are being abducted who continue to talk.

01:57:02.020 So, it feels like, Tim, if we just turn this corner within the scientific community and we started dedicating resources to being able to resist the mechanism that they use to cast us into a hypnosis state or put us into a paralysis state,

01:57:17.880 whatever it is, that we could head kick the little ones, leg kick the tall, skinny ones, and end this entire situation.

01:57:26.600 That if they just didn't have that one, because everything is like they are weak and thin and frail. 0.87

01:57:33.800 And oftentimes, when people come to, I've heard stories where they seem worried.

01:57:38.740 They seem frantic.

01:57:39.980 They want to make you go back to sleep.

01:57:42.880 Yes, there's historical accounts of that.

01:57:46.860 And then I've also heard several accounts of that from modern-day abductees.

01:57:50.760 You could resolve this whole problem with a shotgun if you could interrupt their technology.

01:57:58.560 If when they came to get you, rather than you being, which is almost always the case, incapacitated, laying on your bed, can't move, rather than that,

01:58:06.340 they come in and you're, I mean, if you, if you could, if you could interfere with the control mechanism,

01:58:12.760 problem is part of it is telepathic control.

01:58:17.760 But, but, but let's say if you could interfere with this mechanism, because part of it, I think is, I think a big part of it,

01:58:23.280 the majority of the control mechanism is the implant, but also that there's telepathic control exerted on the abduct as well.

01:58:28.960 But let's say you were impervious to the telepathic control and you've been able to disrupt that technological interference. 0.94

01:58:35.680 You're going to, you could, you could, you could dispatch with the greys until they deploy whatever technology they have from their craft and, you know, and incinerate you. 1.00

01:58:48.200 But you could, you could blow the heads off of these things. 1.00

01:58:51.500 Yes. 0.99

01:58:53.180 I have no doubt.

01:58:54.260 And now would they bleed red blood?

01:58:57.420 Probably not.

01:58:58.780 They're not, they're not like us in that sense.

01:59:02.400 Um, you know, so these are probably clones.

01:59:06.900 Okay.

01:59:07.540 So they're biological cybernetic clones and, and the real, I think, organic creatures are the insectulins.

01:59:17.360 Those are probably organic ones.

01:59:19.200 Maybe those things bleed a little more like we do, but, um,

01:59:22.660 and those are a little bit more formidable.

01:59:24.900 And like reptilians possibly, would you consider reptilians in the same category?

01:59:29.080 No, I think reptilians something else, but it's so crazy, dude.

01:59:32.740 It's like, cause you, I, you're right.

01:59:35.420 I want to put this in a nice little box, right?

01:59:37.320 I want to put them.

01:59:38.280 Okay.

01:59:38.500 These are demons.

01:59:39.340 We can deal with it now.

01:59:40.340 Let's move forward. 0.95

01:59:41.240 But I want to shot that blast the box.

01:59:43.640 Can you put quantum physics in a nice little box?

01:59:46.400 No, exactly.

01:59:46.900 Exactly.

01:59:47.260 I mean, I don't know.

01:59:48.320 It depends on if you're looking on the box, looking in the box or not looking in the box.

01:59:51.640 What I'm saying is putting God in a box.

01:59:55.640 You absolutely cannot.

01:59:57.080 And you've kind of broken down that wall for us again.

01:59:59.580 Thank you for that.

02:00:01.060 Um, you just can't, there's just infinite possibilities of what is going on.

02:00:04.920 And it's way worse than we think.

02:00:06.940 My slogan is embrace the complexity.

02:00:09.720 Don't try and simplify it.

02:00:11.000 Don't be a reductionist.

02:00:12.220 Don't try and simplify it.

02:00:13.560 Don't, don't take these few words that you have at your disposal for the biblical narrative

02:00:18.960 and try to, and try to explain everything going on with them.

02:00:21.980 That's infantile.

02:00:23.400 And there's no, there's no, uh, commandment to do such a thing.

02:00:27.380 There's, there's no, um, there's, there's no reason why someone who subscribes to the gospel

02:00:34.860 of Christ should feel constrained to do such a thing.

02:00:37.300 Um, I certainly don't.

02:00:39.700 A gray alien is a gray alien.

02:00:41.160 And, and why does it have to have anything to do whatsoever with a demon?

02:00:45.000 Number one, or with watchers?

02:00:47.220 Number two, um, it, it, now, can we understand, can we, can we make an evaluation in regard

02:00:55.180 to their, um, to their, let's say, morality?

02:01:05.320 And that's probably not the best word that I'm looking for here, but, but yes, we can.

02:01:09.460 What they're doing is, what they're doing is nefarious.

02:01:13.220 Yeah.

02:01:13.740 And what they're doing, they're not asking our permission to do it.

02:01:17.820 I mean, not each individual abductee.

02:01:19.460 They're not, um, apparently nothing they're doing is beneficial to us.

02:01:26.700 Um, it's, it's invasive.

02:01:28.940 It's intrusive.

02:01:30.200 There isn't, there aren't any real abductees, not contactees, abductees who want to be abducted

02:01:36.040 that I know of, or I've ever heard of.

02:01:38.260 Um, you know, it's, it's people are being taken against their will.

02:01:43.380 And, and, and obviously this is nefarious.

02:01:46.880 Obviously this is an enemy.

02:01:48.320 This is an enemy.

02:01:50.360 And, and, um, that's it.

02:01:54.720 I mean, there's not a whole lot more we can know than this is what they act like.

02:01:59.980 This is what they do.

02:02:01.460 And based on what they, what they act like, their disposition and what they do, we can,

02:02:06.500 we can make certain determinative, determinative, um, statements like they're physical and they're

02:02:15.640 nefarious.

02:02:16.760 And again, we're referencing specifically the grace.

02:02:19.700 Um, so they're deceptive.

02:02:21.540 Certainly they're deceptive.

02:02:23.280 Um, they, they create screen memories in the minds of the abductees.

02:02:27.600 So they can't remember the abduction episodes.

02:02:29.400 Uh, they, so they're screwing with your mind. 0.88

02:02:31.760 They're screwing there. 0.99

02:02:32.580 They're implanting their fetuses into the wombs of our females. 1.00

02:02:38.420 That's pretty dastardly.

02:02:40.120 If you ask me, that's, that's, that's, that's, you know, that's pretty, uh, uh, uh, cunning and, and certainly, um, certainly infringes on any, any notion of human freedom.

02:02:55.360 And, and, and, you know, um, it's, it's contrary to our will, certainly.

02:03:02.380 So, um, it's not difficult to draw that. 0.99

02:03:05.420 What I think is the obvious conclusion that the greys are little evil bastards. 1.00

02:03:08.640 And, and, and, and I would say more, more specifically, the insectilines are evil bastards. 1.00

02:03:16.980 Because the greys, I'm not sure if the greys are even conscious. 1.00

02:03:21.320 They may be, they very well, maybe, I don't know, but I, I'm pretty sure the insectilines are.

02:03:26.080 So, um, for those who don't know, the insectilines are the managers of the abduction program.

02:03:31.760 If you're abducted, brought onto a craft, sometimes you'll encounter them, but they are the managers.

02:03:36.840 They're the ones controlling the greys. 0.62

02:03:38.660 Now, somebody controlling the insectilines, maybe, maybe, maybe the Nordics are, I don't know.

02:03:43.000 But, um, uh, I think we're dealing with at least four kinds of beings, probably more.

02:03:51.080 But I, I think I can say pretty concretely that we're dealing with four.

02:03:54.040 And I was pleased that my friend Richard Dolan actually has the same assessment.

02:03:59.160 Um, we're dealing with insectilines.

02:04:01.740 We're dealing with greys. 1.00

02:04:02.980 And the grey faction really does include the insectilines.

02:04:06.300 But let's, for the sake of clarity, the insectilines, the greys, the reptilians, and the Nordics.

02:04:13.820 And I happen to believe that the Nordics are the angelic race. 0.96

02:04:17.700 Could be wrong, but that's what I think.

02:04:19.640 So, um, uh, these things are very likely real.

02:04:26.220 The greys, it's a stone cold fact.

02:04:29.100 So if you think they're an angelic race, are you saying, uh, like, what, what exactly does that mean?

02:04:34.800 And, and then that, that also, does that lend itself to these other things being possibly, like, like, like I was saying before, uh, influenced by something that's not angelic?

02:04:44.640 Like, I'm not sure I followed the question.

02:04:48.620 If, so if, if one is an angelic race, what do you mean by that?

02:04:53.100 Well, uh, in my book, I've heard of these beings as the elder race.

02:04:57.100 In other words, they're older than the human species.

02:05:00.060 These would be the sons of God.

02:05:01.340 And, and if you read my book, you'll understand why I say this.

02:05:04.380 They look like us.

02:05:05.300 Rather, we look like them because we're sons of God as well.

02:05:08.820 We're supposed to be.

02:05:09.820 So we're, they were, they were part of the same family.

02:05:12.540 Now, there are apostate sons, many apostate human sons, and certainly, uh, a lot of apostate angelic sons.

02:05:21.800 Now, because I use the word angelic, I'm not, that doesn't mean ethereal.

02:05:26.540 So it, it's, um, uh, and people say, well, aren't they spiritual beings?

02:05:32.660 That's fine.

02:05:33.060 But what is spiritual?

02:05:34.560 Because spiritual is not supernatural, by the way.

02:05:37.400 Supernatural is a contrivance.

02:05:38.900 There is no such word in the Hebrew Bible or in the New Testament.

02:05:42.280 It doesn't exist.

02:05:43.120 The word supernatural is not a biblical term, much like fallen angel.

02:05:45.880 These are not biblical terms.

02:05:47.400 Now, I get what people mean by both supernatural and fallen angel, but these are not biblical terms.

02:05:53.100 Um, uh, supernatural means above or beyond nature.

02:05:56.960 And I don't think that, I don't think, I think there's one being who's above and beyond nature, and that's God.

02:06:02.400 Everything else is within the universe and has to abide by the laws, the same laws of physics,

02:06:08.600 and is all connected synergistically.

02:06:12.360 That's Colossians 115, by the way.

02:06:14.940 So, um, so the, the, these are, these are a race of beings who exist in the, in the universe,

02:06:24.120 who are not human, but are, are affiliated with the human race because they are members of the family.

02:06:31.220 And what do I mean by that?

02:06:32.540 I mean, they're, they're members of the divine family.

02:06:37.160 This is a biblical concept.

02:06:38.660 They're called sons of God.

02:06:40.200 We're also called sons of God.

02:06:42.340 Um, we're given power to become sons of God.

02:06:44.820 According to Jesus, that's called the resurrection.

02:06:46.280 So we're, we're on the path to being returned to the father's house and becoming sons of God, of God again,

02:06:53.200 like Adam was, um, and being reunited with our family, i.e. our older siblings, our elder siblings, the elder race.

02:06:59.880 But that's not to say that all of these older siblings are good.

02:07:02.540 No, they're clearly not. 1.00

02:07:03.700 A lot of them are apostate, just like a lot of human beings are trash. 1.00

02:07:08.200 Okay. 1.00

02:07:08.740 And apostate and evil. 0.85

02:07:10.060 So, um, uh, this is, I, I, when you, there are some very unhelpful terms, I think, that have, you know, cause a lot of confusion.

02:07:21.900 And, and, and one of those terms is supernatural.

02:07:24.240 I don't, uh, I don't, I don't take issue if people use the term supernatural because I know what they mean.

02:07:29.580 But I think that word is, uh, engenders a lot more confusion than it does, um, clarity.

02:07:35.640 So don't misunderstand me.

02:07:38.040 When I say an angelic race, I'm not talking about some ethereal, supernatural genie thing.

02:07:45.000 I'm talking about a race, a bona fide race of beings who pre-exist us and who have, and who hail from a civilization that is much more advanced than ours.

02:07:57.580 Indeed, I would say this is the kingdom of heaven.

02:08:00.800 So, um, they're in play and have been in play since the beginning.

02:08:05.380 That's why the premise of ancient, ancient aliens is, in fact, accurate.

02:08:09.620 So they're in play.

02:08:11.060 There's no question.

02:08:11.900 If you subscribe to the Bible, then you know they're in play.

02:08:15.000 Um, the greys, the reptilians, the insectulines, I think the evidence is very, uh, is overwhelming, really, in regard to the existence of the greys.

02:08:26.720 In regard to the reptilians, not so much, although I do subscribe to the notion that such a race exists.

02:08:34.740 Now, where are they from?

02:08:35.840 Are they extraterrestrial or are they, are they a primordial, uh, terrestrial race that's been here always, these, these, these reptilians?

02:08:48.780 I don't know.

02:08:49.860 I suspect that that might be true.

02:08:53.020 So, um, you know, it's complex and, and it's like, there's no way you can really simplify something so complex.

02:08:59.520 You just have to deal with it and embrace the complexity.

02:09:03.220 Um, and then, you know, stop trying to stop limiting yourself to three markers, three crayons, uh, when, when attempting to color in the contours of reality.

02:09:18.780 Excellent, excellent, absolutely excellent.

02:09:22.400 I love, I like, I like doing our show where we can go off the rails, but I like it even more when somebody can come on and really, uh, you know, give me something that's going, that I'm going to think about for the next week, probably a month or so, and really chew on this.

02:09:36.280 Thank you for, thanks for doing that, man.

02:09:39.420 And, uh, thank you for coming on.

02:09:41.080 I think I want to respect your time again.

02:09:42.700 We said it like an hour and a half when we, before we started and we're like two 10.

02:09:46.480 My hope you didn't have anything to do.

02:09:48.060 No, it was my own doing.

02:09:49.800 Um, and let me, let me, let me make it clear, by the way, that I do believe that, uh, I do believe that Nephilim are still around, uh, giants.

02:09:58.500 Uh, you mentioned earlier the Kandahar giant story.

02:10:01.780 I'm telling you that's, that, that story is a hundred percent true.

02:10:05.220 Um, uh, where at least, at least the, the, uh, um, the elements of that story are a hundred percent true.

02:10:14.300 Let's say, uh, I, so I do believe that Nephilim are still around. 0.83

02:10:17.540 It's not that I don't, that I don't believe in Nephilim. 0.59

02:10:19.620 And I do believe that, uh, that the unclean spirits, the, the, the, the, these, the spirits of dead Nephilim are still around and still demon possession is, is actually real. 0.56

02:10:30.900 Although I don't think it occurs as much as people think, but, but, cause there's a limited amount of these things.

02:10:35.900 So, um, yes, all of that's real.

02:10:39.000 So I'm not saying, no, that's not really real.

02:10:40.780 And only aliens are real.

02:10:42.180 No, no, no.

02:10:42.480 That's not what I'm saying at all.

02:10:43.560 Those things are real and they have their place in their category.

02:10:46.760 There's no reason to assume that these other things are even directly associated with those.

02:10:53.000 Might they be?

02:10:53.860 Maybe.

02:10:54.680 Maybe.

02:10:55.000 I haven't heard any compelling theories though.

02:10:56.960 Um, however, again, to just highlight this last thing, I do believe, now, if you want to say, are aliens fallen angels?

02:11:06.760 Now that's an interesting question.

02:11:08.160 That's different than the question, are, are, aren't angel, aren't aliens just demons?

02:11:13.660 That, that's an irrational.

02:11:16.240 That's not the question I would, I would pose.

02:11:18.980 It would, it would be more, are aliens, uh, Nephilim being product of the product of fallen angels and something else?

02:11:25.740 Yeah, a product.

02:11:26.860 Well, I mean, so, so, so this is part of this, what I was about to say.

02:11:31.700 So, so are, uh, what, some of what we're calling aliens and extraterrestrials, are those quote unquote fallen angels?

02:11:40.780 I think the answer to that question is absolutely yes.

02:11:43.800 Not the greys though. 0.97

02:11:45.460 Are the greys created by, manufactured by the quote unquote fallen angels? 0.88

02:11:51.480 Very possibly.

02:11:52.600 Very possibly.

02:11:53.800 Um, uh, are the insectilines the fallen angels?

02:11:58.660 No.

02:12:00.020 No.

02:12:00.500 No, that's something else.

02:12:02.120 Are they created or controlled by quote unquote, I hate the term fallen angels, but I'm using it for clarity's sake.

02:12:08.640 Are they controlled by or created by the fallen angels?

02:12:12.220 Potentially.

02:12:14.120 That's absolutely a plausible theory.

02:12:17.160 Um, and, uh, and I think there may be some truth there.

02:12:20.040 Uh, I don't know, but, but so, so hopefully this, this is, um, making sense to people.

02:12:26.800 I just don't think that aliens are demons in the biblical sense.

02:12:30.940 Doesn't make any sense.

02:12:32.320 It's important.

02:12:33.400 And again, uh, so the last sentence that you said there, we, we, this is what we've been talking about.

02:12:39.760 We completely agree. 0.58

02:12:40.580 The only thing that we've been doing is explaining it like a bunch of retards. 1.00

02:12:44.060 Um, it's, it's important to differentiate because it's true.

02:12:47.420 Like if we, if we're going to be battling what certainly is an enemy. 0.92

02:12:53.140 It's like a bunch of retards. 1.00

02:12:54.280 I mean, uh, that's what I specialize in. 0.97

02:12:58.300 I mean, you got no idea, Tim.

02:13:00.220 It's kind of our thing.

02:13:01.560 Now people are going to fixate.

02:13:02.880 Now people are going to, they're going to discount everything we said and just fixate on the fact that we use the term retard.

02:13:08.020 No, the discount.

02:13:08.940 Discount everything I said, not Tim.

02:13:10.700 But if, if you're going to, like I said, like you were saying, they're certainly an enemy or an adversary.

02:13:16.520 It should, we should be specific about what they are.

02:13:19.900 If there indeed is some kind of a culmination coming to a head or a battle or something with them, mixing them up doesn't really help being specific about what they are, what they do, their intentions, their motives.

02:13:32.600 They're very, they're all very different.

02:13:34.300 So yeah, we should, for the listener base, take that into account.

02:13:38.400 Swallow your ego or whatever you were thinking before, take into account what he's saying.

02:13:42.180 There's a lot of things out there, you know, Bigfoot's out there somewhere.

02:13:46.100 So, um, you know, I mean, we're, we're not, we're not the only players in the game.

02:13:53.840 Okay.

02:13:54.240 We're not the only conscious beings in the universe that doesn't change the narrative of, of the Bible.

02:14:00.540 And it absolutely does not change or alter the gospel of Christ at all.

02:14:05.340 And for some reason, people think, think it does.

02:14:07.420 It does not at all.

02:14:09.440 I mean, there's something called sons of God, angels.

02:14:14.120 That doesn't change the gospel.

02:14:15.580 They're non-human, extraterrestrial sentient beings.

02:14:19.280 Full stop.

02:14:20.060 They are.

02:14:20.820 There's no, no one could, I don't care who you are, how many letters you have in front of your name.

02:14:26.220 There's no getting around the fact that angels in the biblical sense are extraterrestrial.

02:14:34.660 That is a, that is a fact.

02:14:37.520 So, um, and I think, uh, I think, you know, put a little bit of thought into it.

02:14:44.120 Most people would, would, would, would agree, obviously that that's the case.

02:14:47.620 Um, angels were not created on planet earth and, and anyone who thinks they were is just,

02:14:54.680 I don't know where they, I don't know where they would, uh, where they would draw that from.

02:14:59.620 So that, that, that, that, that, that would be a very, um, that would be a very extra biblical conclusion, certainly, to think that angels derive or, or were.

02:15:13.240 Are earth-born creatures, they clearly are not, right?

02:15:19.260 So, um, there it is.

02:15:21.760 I mean, that's, that class of, of beings breaks that paradigm immediately.

02:15:27.720 So if you, people who say, well, wait a minute, if aliens exist, then what about this?

02:15:33.100 Or what about that?

02:15:34.000 Well, you already have that problem with angels.

02:15:37.800 You already have it.

02:15:39.300 Alien, the existence of other beings doesn't, doesn't, um, is not a new problem.

02:15:49.320 You already have that problem with the angelic race. 0.56

02:15:52.800 So, and it's very clear that, uh, um, that Jesus did not die for the angels.

02:15:59.880 He died for the human species, for the sons and daughters of Adam. 0.99

02:16:02.780 So, um, that, that's a imagined obstacle here.

02:16:07.760 And even the Catholic Church is, is, uh, wrestling with, with this imagined obstacle.

02:16:14.820 It's, it's, it's, it's irrelevant, really, because the, the, we've, we've been, we've been

02:16:20.380 unintentionally, uh, unconsciously grappling with this very same problem for many centuries.

02:16:27.440 There are other extraterrestrial sentient beings in the universe, period.

02:16:32.120 There are, we, no one, no, no, no Bible literate Christian could ever, ever, um, contend with 0.84

02:16:42.780 that statement.

02:16:43.800 And to further your point, uh, I, like, like you said, it doesn't weaken the narrative of

02:16:47.820 the Bible.

02:16:48.140 I think it, it actually strengthens it because there is something about our birthright and

02:16:53.940 what we're given and what everything else in play here wants.

02:16:57.280 Cause everything want, everything that you've been describing seems to want one thing, this

02:17:02.500 similar thing.

02:17:03.820 And it's been given to us and then even further consecrated given to us even further by sending

02:17:10.800 his son to die for us.

02:17:11.840 So it's, it's, it's, it's a man, a very interesting thing to really, I would, I would encourage people

02:17:19.080 to read my book birthright.

02:17:20.440 If you're confused, if you're wondering, if you think I'm a heretic or whatever, go read

02:17:24.200 birthright.

02:17:24.840 I, I, I take great pains in that book to, um, to describe as, uh, as articulately as I possibly

02:17:36.740 can, my thought process here.

02:17:39.960 And, um, I think, you know, for, for people who are confused, um, I think it would help

02:17:47.120 a lot if you really want to understand where I'm coming from here.

02:17:50.320 Cause I, I provide all of the, all of the, um, scriptural references and, and, uh, you'll

02:17:57.660 see, you'll see what I mean, which you can get on Amazon by the way.

02:18:01.980 Yeah, I, we actually have your, uh, links in the, in the description for all the videos

02:18:08.160 here.

02:18:08.460 So I have the book right here.

02:18:10.380 Uh, please go pick that up.

02:18:11.960 I, I, you're probably working on other stuff.

02:18:13.820 Tell the people where they could find you and anything else that you want to let them

02:18:17.420 know.

02:18:18.200 Um, I have a website, timothyalbrino.com, um, YouTube channel, Timothy Albrino, um, Instagram

02:18:26.420 at Timothy Albrino and X at Timothy Albrino.

02:18:31.340 So those are the, the places you can find me, um, subscribe to my mailing list, my email

02:18:38.160 list on my website.

02:18:40.120 I've got some stuff coming out soon.

02:18:41.980 Some, some new stuff.

02:18:42.860 I've been working on a lot of stuff and, uh, I've got some exciting projects that I'm, I'm

02:18:47.580 concluding and that are going to be released before long.

02:18:50.780 So, um, subscribing to my YouTube channel is also a great way to, uh, all of it, the social

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02:18:58.980 If you, if you want to follow me.

02:19:01.340 Absolutely.

02:19:03.220 Yeah.

02:19:03.420 Guys, please do.

02:19:04.520 I know I get a lot of, uh, I, I get a lot of worth out of following you and what you're

02:19:10.040 doing.

02:19:10.200 And I'm glad to see that you're like even more active on X.

02:19:12.700 I feel like that's where a lot of the new dialogue is going to be taking place.

02:19:16.300 Um, and again, thank you for coming and talking to us.

02:19:20.320 You probably shouldn't have, uh, I knew I liked you guys immediately when I saw your

02:19:26.040 intro.

02:19:27.220 Oh, hell yeah.

02:19:28.340 Yeah.

02:19:28.520 We like Vinny Padman, but we always, we always trick people on the way in.

02:19:32.660 Yeah.

02:19:33.060 David, it's my, it's my pleasure.

02:19:35.520 Uh, thanks for, for having me on at any time.

02:19:39.040 I mean, if you have anything new, hopefully we can grow the show to a point where it's

02:19:42.600 even more respectable for someone like you to come on and maybe we can introduce you

02:19:46.780 to people that don't know you for some reason that if they know us and not you, um, but

02:19:51.060 anytime, uh, again, guys, end of the month, catch us with, uh, we're doing a show with

02:19:55.640 Sam Tripoli, go to toplobster.com, follow us on social medias, David, anything?

02:20:01.000 Um, yeah, don't forget to go to samtripoli.com, click on March 30th, come see us in Summerfield

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02:20:22.280 We've developed quite an awesome community there.

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02:20:32.300 That's it.

02:20:32.700 Absolutely.

02:20:33.580 All right, guys.

02:20:34.300 Peace out.

02:20:35.040 All right, Joe.

02:20:35.400 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

02:20:41.260 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

02:20:45.040 It's mutant persuasion.

02:20:47.140 That what they see with their eyes is what there is to see the government.

02:20:51.420 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.

02:20:58.100 And they have.

Nephilim Death Squad - August 07, 2025

TIME CAPSULE - 034： Have the Nephilim Stolen our Birthright？ w⧸ Timothy Alberino

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