Join David Lee Corvo as he is joined by Timothy Albarino, an author, filmmaker, researcher, and filmmaker. We discuss a variety of topics, including: - What is the origin story of the Nephilim Death Squad? - What are the origins of the group? - Who are the members of the Death Squad and how did they come to be? - Is there a connection between the dead and the dead in the grave? - Is this a true story or a fake story? - What does it mean to be a Death Squad member?
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00:04:13.640I've written a book called Birthright.
00:04:15.000So I'm kind of, I'm all over the place and doing a lot of different things.
00:04:22.580So, but I talk about, I research topics related to biblical studies, UFOs, giants, ancient civilizations, alternative theories and alternative history, etc.
00:04:40.420You know, Tim, one of the questions I always have is, how did you, how does one get into this?
00:06:18.480You know, over the weekend, I was on Netflix and I kind of just put on Noah.
00:06:24.440Never seen it before with Russell Crowe.
00:06:27.060And I'm just glad that there's people like you.
00:06:29.840We've got like L.A. Marzulli and, you know, other people.
00:06:32.640Gary Wayne, who's writing these books that are telling the story much closer to what actually happened than, you know, the Hollywood version of it.
00:06:40.740Where it's I watched a couple of minutes and it seems like they're trying to depict the Watchers or the Fallen in a good light.
00:06:47.460It's almost like, you know, like the classic inversion of what the truth would be.
00:07:02.320They had an opportunity to depict the antediluvian world in a more realistic way and to tell the story as it is written in Genesis 6 and the Book of Enoch and other extra biblical texts.
00:07:19.560And they chose to do something completely fanciful.
00:07:39.760I feel like that is letting whoever is in charge of these things off the hook.
00:07:44.700And in a way, also, as I was listening to some of your previous interviews recently where we're talking about the government.
00:07:51.240If we just kind of keep letting them off the hook as if like, oh, you know, they're just kind of they're just trying to suppress as much as they can.
00:08:00.100To me, it doesn't seem that way as a conspiracy.
00:08:19.300Well, I I don't know that I would go down a conspiratorial route with the Noah story.
00:08:24.640I think they make I mean, anyone who's been paying attention for the last five years, 10 years to Hollywood, they've been making really bad decisions about a lot of stories and many stories that don't have anything to do with the biblical narrative.
00:08:39.900Um, there's just a lack of creativity and you have you always they always want to diverge from these from the original narrative and try and create something unique and different.
00:08:55.640And in this case, you're right, they they abandoned one of those interesting interesting stories ever told for a ridiculous concoction.
00:09:10.200You touched on it for a second there, this idea that they had an opportunity to panthe paint this era in time in a much more fascinating way.
00:09:21.940And when people think of the story of Noah's Ark, it's kind of like from from the outside looking in, if you're not really paying attention, I would say the general consensus is what like man was corrupt.
00:09:36.480And so God chose, you know, one man in particular to save a bunch of animals, get them on an ark, and then he punished the world for man's corruption.
00:09:47.480But there's a lot more going on there.
00:09:50.080There's a lot more detail and it's a lot more interesting.
00:09:52.600And I think that we've kind of had these stories.
00:09:57.260Maybe whitewashed isn't the best term, but watered down, watered down for sure.
00:10:02.180They're they're much less potent than they actually are.
00:10:05.500What is your contention about maybe what it looked like in the days of Noah?
00:10:11.560Well, you know, the story of Noah is very, very old story.
00:10:16.020It's it was present in ancient Mesopotamia.
00:10:19.460Of course, that I believe and depending on who you talk to, most scholars would say that the biblical account of Noah is a derivation of the more ancient Mesopotamian account.
00:10:34.180I would actually take the opposite view.
00:10:36.240I think that the Mesopotamian account is a derivation from the original account, which comes from the antediluvian world and was passed down through Noah and his sons and then and then became corrupted during the rise of Sumer and Acadia.
00:10:51.340But it it's interesting because, you know, that that that Noah figure in the Mesopotamian account is Utnapishtim.
00:11:01.460And in you find this Noah character all over the world in many different mythologies of variegated cultures across the globe.
00:11:12.620And and but it's always the same kind of story.
00:11:27.700There are there are hundreds and hundreds of iterations of the Noah story.
00:11:31.240I subscribe to the biblical narrative.
00:11:33.860And as I said, as I alluded to, I believe that the the Genesis account is is the original narrative, whether or not the book of Genesis was penned before or after the Mesopotamian accounts is irrelevant.
00:11:50.020The oral tradition, I believe, of Noah and his sons that we have in the in the Genesis account is the original story.
00:11:59.420So I'm sorry, I lost the rest of the rest of your question there.
00:12:02.940But this actually does bring something to mind where it's like, do you think that this is one man whose name is changed throughout these stories, an event that took place one time that has changed throughout all these different cultures?
00:12:20.960Or we just had Vicki Joy Anderson, who is an author who works with L.A. Marzulli.
00:12:27.220She was just on the show the other day and she said something that I thought was really interesting.
00:12:30.600It was this idea that the way that God sent the symbol of the rainbow and promised not to flood the world again, the way that she interpreted it.
00:12:41.440And she said it was just something that she she was kind of kicking around this concept of it struck her as you wouldn't flood the world once and then just say, hey, hey, I'll never do it again.
00:12:53.940It was almost as if like this is something that had happened.
00:12:56.640Do you think that there's room for Noah almost being an archetype like this may have happened several times and maybe for some reason there is just this formula almost where God picks a man has the same thing happen again.
00:13:15.540And then this time is like and like I said, this isn't something that she was putting a lot of stock into.
00:13:22.760And now that I'm hearing you say it, it's like, well, maybe there's room for this is a multiple occurrence, which is why it echoes through so many different cultures.
00:13:30.260And maybe it's not necessarily the same man with different names from different cultures, but actually different instances, different moments in time where the same thing happened again.
00:13:41.380Do you think there's any room for that?
00:13:43.260I would say that all of these various stories around the world have one original source.
00:13:49.760But I would also concede that I do believe that the earth had been catastrophically destroyed previous to the flood of Noah and indeed from, in my estimation, previous to the creation of mankind.
00:14:10.460So I believe in a pre-Adamic cataclysm that rocked the earth, that something happened, something else was going on here before the creation of mankind and the inception of mankind and that it was an even greater cataclysm in that context.
00:14:31.560So I do subscribe to multiple cataclysms going back into the past.
00:14:40.360I don't believe that the flood of Noah was the first.
00:14:44.500Certainly in my mind, there was a pre-Adamic cataclysm and there's lots of reasons why I believe that and I detail why I believe that in my book Birthright.
00:14:53.440Well, they say, well, they say, I don't know, I don't know the exact number, but I think they attribute 4,000 or some odd years to when Adam would have been around.
00:15:09.540Oh, well, this is controversial because most Christians are under the impression that when you go to the Genesis 5 genealogy, which lists the genealogy of the pre-flood patriarchs beginning with Noah and ending, rather beginning with Adam and ending with Noah and his sons.
00:15:29.960Most Christians will read this genealogy as if it's linear, if it's written in a linear fashion.
00:15:42.180And there's a lot of problems with that, that rendering of the text.
00:15:48.720First of all, the first problem that we have to deal with is that we have the Masoretic texts.
00:15:54.740Today, we are all reading the Masoretic texts.
00:15:57.680And the Masoretic, the Masorites, they, for some reason, decided to subtract 100 years off of each of the lifespans of those patriarchs from Adam to Noah, which significantly reduced that period of time from Adam to Noah by some 1,500 years or so.
00:16:20.120Well, we know that the Masorites sort of circumcised the lifespans of the patriarchs because in the Septuagint, you have, which I think is the original rendering, you have 100 additional years under the lives of each one of those patriarchs.
00:16:39.940Why the Masorites would have done it, who knows, they had their own, they had their own theological positions that they were wanting to reinforce.
00:16:48.400There were certain theological topics and themes that they wanted to suppress.
00:16:53.580And so that's the first problem that we run into when we try and make a linear calculation from Adam to Noah.
00:17:04.480The second problem is that clearly, I think what we have in that genealogy is what's referred to as telescoping.
00:17:13.200And telescoping means that, you know, you imagine a telescope and that telescope will fold down into a smaller artifact.
00:17:25.840And so basically what scholars mean by telescoping is rather than account for all of the individuals in this family line, they remove certain numbers of them so that they can fit the genealogy in a nice, neat number.
00:17:49.020And this was, reaching a particular numerical value was very important to ancient writers, especially the writers of the Hebrew Old Testament.
00:18:24.680The writers, the, the, the Hebrew writers would routinely engage in this sort of thing, you know, remove certain people from a genealogy in order to, in order to reach a particular number.
00:18:38.160Again, because this numerology was very important to them.
00:18:41.620Um, so I think we, we, we, we have some telescoping going on in the account of, um, in the genealogy of the pre-flood patriarchs.
00:18:52.240There were probably more where we assume that, that genealogy represents the father to the firstborn son and so on all the way down through the line, the genealogical record.
00:19:07.340But that, I think is a, it's, it's an assumption at best.
00:19:11.900And I think that, um, in reality, we're probably looking at a whole lot longer period of time than Christians are accustomed to counting for or to contemplating in regard to the antediluvian world from the creation of Adam to the flood of Noah.
00:19:33.600Um, I would say thousands of years transpired, perhaps many thousands of years.
00:19:39.820I think that the flood of Noah probably took place sometime around 10,000 BC.
00:19:46.620Now, uh, this is a, a modification to my own view, even the view I put forward in my book birthright.
00:19:54.700I have since the publishing of that book modified my view, altered my view based on new information that I was only slightly aware of at the time.
00:20:04.560Um, and there was an event that took place, um, there was clearly some sort of a cataclysm that happened around 10,000 BC.
00:20:14.360Indeed, when you look at the megaliths all around the world, so many of them seem to point to that very period of time based on their alignments with celestial phenomena.
00:20:23.820Um, and this is, of course, the field of archaeoastronomy, uh, looking at an archaeological ruin and then using the timepiece, that celestial timepiece to figure out when this, this, let's say, megalithic site aligned with a particular sign, zodiacal sign, um, or a particular constellation.
00:20:51.840And, um, and, um, and so many of the same, the same thing that they used for the Sphinx, uh, facing the constellation of Leo.
00:21:27.580It's the, the, the Zodiac is of course divided into 12 houses and each house is represented by a different sign.
00:21:35.900And this is how the ages were measured.
00:21:39.200And, uh, and by many, many different cultures, including.
00:21:43.800This may be going in a different direction, but it's something that I was actually thinking about very recently.
00:21:50.140So it's interesting that we're here talking about it, but there was a time when I came to understand that a 13th Zodiac had been introduced.
00:21:57.600And it was Ophiuchus, uh, a man, uh, uh, struggling with a serpent and, or wrestling with a serpent.
00:22:04.980And then that kind of just fell out of the, the kind of, you know, zeitgeist of awareness.
00:22:11.320I wonder if, if you know anything about that or how that applies, because there was this, I think around maybe 2000 and 2013, 2014, suddenly there was the introduction of this 13th constellation for a brief time.
00:22:25.760That never seemed to really stick around or, or be anything of any significance, but I do remember it was called Ophiuchus and I do remember it was a man wrestling with a serpent.
00:22:35.240I don't recall that I've only been aware of 12 and this is, this certainly understand the ancient understanding is 12.
00:22:42.160There's 12 ages and those ages correspond to the, what's called, uh, a great year, which is the, the completing the, the full wobble of the earth, axial procession.
00:22:56.580And, uh, and again, all the ancients knew this.
00:23:00.660So I don't know, uh, I'm not sure how we got onto Zodiac.
00:23:08.660I, uh, if, if we were already lost in the woods, I made sure to derail us.
00:23:12.360We were talking about the, the Sphinx being aligned to the, um, to Leo and, and, um, that, you know, that was sometime around 10,000 BC and not only the Sphinx in, in Egypt, but also in Peru, I believe that the, that the city of Cusco, for example,
00:23:35.040and this, this is, this is, was confirmed through the research of my, my friend and colleague, uh, Andres Adazme, who's an archaeoastronomer, um, who figured out that the city of Cusco was founded in 10,000 BC based on the alignment of the megaliths.
00:23:51.820Uh, I think there, I think that, uh, uh, 10,000 BC is probably when, um, that the cataclysm occurred.
00:24:01.680So you're looking at some 12,000 years ago, which of course aligns with the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis that Graham Hancock has made famous, um, and Randall Carlson.
00:24:11.940Um, and the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis posits that 12,000 years ago, around 10,000 BC, there was an earth shattering cataclysm.
00:24:24.780Um, and that, that, that resulted from, uh, a, an, an asteroid impact on the North American ice sheets, the Laurentide ice sheet to be specific, and perhaps other, other locations in North America.
00:24:39.380It was in fact, not just one impact, but a series of impacts because there was a large asteroid that broke up, uh, that broke up, um, and, and broke up in orbit and fragments of it bombarded the earth.
00:24:55.020And that, that, that was, uh, that precipitated this, this cataclysm that, that, uh, annihilated humanity that destroyed much of the life on earth, megafauna, certainly the megafauna extinction and, and, and almost entirely eradicated the human species.
00:25:20.000I think that, that, that, that is the cataclysm, uh, the, the Noahic flood.
00:25:27.420I believe that, that is the cataclysm that all of these other ancient civilizations refer to.
00:25:35.880And that it, and that it, in fact, it happened sometime around 10,000 BC.
00:25:39.980So I would push the flood of Noah back to 10,000 BC.
00:25:43.080And again, the only contention that Christians can, can make in regard to this, this timeframe is, but the Genesis five genealogy only allows for however many years it is.
00:25:58.880I don't remember off the top of my head, um, basically to 3,300 BC thereabouts, um, would have been the flood of Noah, according to that calculation.
00:26:07.420And, uh, it's just, it's, it's very, uh, it's not a, it's a tenuous position because again, the Masoretic text, for some reason, subtracted a hundred years off of the lifespans of the patriarchs.
00:26:23.980Um, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fall back to the Septuagint before I'm gonna, the Septuagint, as I said, has a hundred additional years on the lifespans of those patriarchs.
00:26:36.460And I'm, I'm going to put more confidence in the, in the reckoning of the Septuagint than in the Masoretic text.
00:26:58.880And, um, and, uh, again, you have to take into account the, the megaliths are, I think the remnant, they're the, they're, it's all that's left from the antediluvian world.
00:27:13.380That's all that could have survived are these massive megalithic foundations.
00:27:17.280And so you have to take into account the, the archeo astronomical alignments of these megaliths because they're, they're very precisely aligned.
00:27:26.560You can't just discount that data because, you know, your master, your Masoretic Bible says there were this many years from Noah to, from Adam to Noah.
00:27:38.720No, you have to take the compendium of evidence and, and use the correct measurements and the correct measurement of time is the Zodiacal ages.
00:27:51.220So, um, so anyway, 10,000 BC, that's when I would, I would push the flood back.
00:27:57.620And this is a, this is an amendment to the way I used to think, um, years ago.
00:28:02.580I've, I've, as I said, since I published my book, I've, I've amended this position.
00:28:07.120Well, you know, good on you, man, because, uh, a lot of what, uh, a lot of what is wrong with humanity now, or at least current, the current civilization is people kind of pick a side and then they get married to it.
00:29:42.880Then I would say that another view would be a local flood theory in which the Levant, the Fertile Crescent was flooded.
00:29:53.900And it was a local phenomenon, a local cataclysm.
00:29:59.680And that was the known world to the people at the time.
00:30:02.120Um, and, um, so that's, you know, that's the local flood hypothesis.
00:30:08.300And then there's one that I think is kind of in between.
00:30:10.840And this is the one that I subscribe to, which is a global cataclysm hypothesis.
00:30:18.020In other words, the entire earth was rocked by cataclysm.
00:30:22.480Every continent was affected by this cataclysm and it had dire effects all over the earth.
00:30:28.600Um, not just, not just in, in, in regard to flooding, by the way, if indeed we're talking about a, an asteroid impact or a series of asteroid impacts on the ice sheets in, on the North American ice sheets, then obviously you would have flooding for sure.
00:30:48.480But you would also have, um, you would also have raging forest fires everywhere, all over the earth as the fragments, the, the molten hot fragments of the impacts are discharged for, for miles, perhaps even thousands of miles and landing in forests and setting those forests ablaze.
00:31:09.760So you would have mass burning of the, of, of, of the, um, uh, forests on earth, all over the earth.
00:31:20.080And you would also obviously have floods, you would have earthquakes, you would have, there, there would be, there would be, the fallout would be considerable and it would manifest in many different ways, not just flooding.
00:31:30.640And it would affect the, the, the, the, um, uh, the temperature and what's the word I'm looking for here?
00:31:42.900Saltiness, salinity of the oceans would, would be altered.
00:31:48.320The, the, it would probably have launched the earth into a, something like a nuclear winter, something approximating a nuclear winter.
00:31:56.600So you would have a, you would have this, you would have, um, the, the, the, the massive forest fires and, and you would have a super heating of the atmosphere around the impact area.
00:32:10.900So you would have like, things would be vaporized, but then right after all of this, you would, the earth would be plunged into a deep freeze because of all of the debris that that's thrown up into the atmosphere, blocking the sun.
00:32:23.320Um, and creating, um, creating, um, creating a, uh, a kind of nuclear winter.
00:32:30.100So it would have been absolutely devastating.
00:32:33.120The entire globe would have been devastated by cataclysm.
00:32:37.660So, um, I subscribe to this view that the entire world was affected by the cataclysm.
00:32:42.960Um, civilization, especially in, in, in, in ancient context, um, was founded, the great cities were usually founded on the banks of rivers or, or on the, or in the coastal areas.
00:32:59.980And these are precisely the areas that would have been submerged.
00:33:03.820There would have been, you know, mile high tidal waves generated from these impacts.
00:33:08.320And from the, all of that, uh, ice, the, the melt of the ice water, uh, rather the, uh, the freshwater melt from the, from the glaciers.
00:33:19.000Um, you would have had, you would have had just devastating flooding.
00:33:25.680If, if you lived anywhere near the sea, your city would be underwater.
00:33:30.500Um, but if you're more inland, you would have perhaps been more affected by the, the, the wildfires and the earthquakes.
00:33:40.620I mean, to think that there wasn't, you know, kind of some, some sort of advanced economics and trade going on, agriculture going on back then.
00:33:48.100All that stuff is, even today, if that's slightly disrupted, you're looking at a, you know, mass deaths.
00:33:54.800They, I, they were talking about if the internet goes down, people are going to die in problem.
00:33:59.480It's, you know, it's just the tiniest little, you know, push of a button.
00:34:09.700It's like, all we are is one, uh, oceanic cataclysm away from destroying these coastal cities.
00:34:15.860And what happens when the animals die?
00:34:18.680Because you have, you have a mass, you have a mass die off of the fauna and you're talking about, you're talking about a, a, an extinction level event that's unfolding in the world.
00:34:33.720And then, you know, all of the repercussions, you, it would be very, very difficult to survive, very difficult to survive under those circumstances.
00:34:43.260Um, so again, I subscribe to that view, which is kind of in the middle of the local flood and the global flood.
00:34:50.720And people, of course, will raise contentions immediately and say, doesn't the Bible say every mountain was underwater and so on and so forth and the waters cover the whole earth?
00:35:04.340Um, there are, again, the, the scholarship is when, if you read the papers on the, on the, on the extent, the extent of the flood, you're going to find a various opinions by many different scholars based on the terminology.
00:35:21.100So, no, it's not, it's not, it's not black and forth.
00:35:23.580It's not black and white as people suppose, just like the genealogy, the pre-flood patriarchal genealogy.
00:35:29.960You know, we want, for some reason, we, we, so many Christians, and I'm a Christian, we have this need for things to be, uh, for things to be simplified and, and concrete, black and white.
00:35:46.820And, and we, for some reason, people need it to be that way.
00:35:51.020But the, but the reality is it's not, it's not.
00:35:53.780So many things that we think are concrete are not in regard to, um, the Old Testament.
00:36:00.740And, again, um, there's a lot of scholarship on the flood of Noah, and there's a lot of different positions, or at least a few different positions with a lot of commentary.
00:36:12.360And you could, if you take the text, and I'm not a scholar, I'm not an ancient language expert, but if you, but I've, I've read the work by, I've read a lot of the scholarly articles.
00:36:21.500And you could, we have a particular rendering in, in our Bibles in regard to the flood of Noah, but you could easily derive a different rendering.
00:36:34.080Um, and based on the, uh, based on the way the words that are used in Hebrew and Aramaic and so forth.
00:36:41.800So it's, it's just not as simple as people think.
00:36:46.000So that's a very long answer, uh, to your original question, which was how could have, let's say the Nephilim survived.
00:36:55.040Um, well, there's, there's a variety of answers and it depends on, it depends on where you fall in, in terms of the extent of the flood.
00:37:02.960If you believe that the flood of Noah was in fact global and every mountain was underwater, Mount Everest was underwater.
00:37:12.120If that's, if that's what you believe you have to, you have to come for some things.
00:37:15.440If that's what you believe, like how, how did the, how did the aquatic life survive?
00:37:21.320And if you take salt, if you take creatures who, who are equipped to live in the ocean and that saltwater environment, and you suddenly dilute that saltwater environment, those creatures are going to die.
00:37:36.460Um, so you have to account for the oceanic life, the aquatic life surviving in those circumstances.
00:37:43.300And the ecosystem is, is intricately connected.
00:37:46.400You know, you can't have one ecosystem survive and all the other ones collapse.
00:37:52.200So I might be, I might be just, uh, speaking out of my, my ass here, but, uh, what's the salinity like salinity, like in the ocean as you go deeper?
00:38:00.080Because when you start to get to like deep sea fishing, you're pulling stuff up that looks historic.
00:38:23.560So, and if you're talking about a global flood where every square inch of the ground is covered with water, there's, it just, there's no way.
00:38:32.200I mean, what are these sea creatures really going to survive on when the ecosystem on land has collapsed, is gone?
00:38:39.540Um, it's just, it's really untenable if you think about it.
00:38:45.020So, um, so again, if you subscribe to this notion that every single mountain, every square inch of planet earth was underwater, then you're really only left with a couple of options in regard to how the Nephilim, we know how Noah and his family made it through the flood.
00:38:59.560They were divinely, they were, they were carried through the flood.
00:39:05.500Um, and we know that, but what about the Nephilim?
00:39:09.820Well, you, you, you, you, you, you have to subscribe to really one of two, um, scenarios.
00:39:17.120One is that there was another incursion, which is called the second incursion that the, that the, what happened to Genesis six, that Genesis six affair reoccurred.
00:39:30.140I have a problem with that because the consequence was so severe.
00:39:36.980The punishment was so severe, uh, after the first incident that it's hard to imagine a group of watchers getting together and repeating it right away.
01:05:41.400And so of course they're going to rebuild it and reoccupy it being the offspring of the gods.
01:05:45.500Um, and I'm, and I think the name, the original name for the site reflects that Ijampu, the abode of the gods.
01:05:53.520So, but long story short, this, this individual became very hostile with us, me and Andres, and threatened to kick us out and ban us for life.
01:06:04.960And was basically pushing us out of the complex, just because we were saying, suggesting that, you know, the things I had, I, I've said.
01:06:17.160This is not something that they're doing because somehow what you're saying is, is dangerous, but more so because they're so sick and tired with this potential, like ancient aliens narrative.
01:06:30.520And the West coming over and turning, you know, their culture into a history.
01:07:13.140I mean, you look at a picture of Altawapa on, uh, on, pull up an image of Altawapa on Google.
01:07:19.240He was the, the Sapa Inca, the, the Inca emperor when the Spanish arrived, when, when, um, Francisco Pizarro arrived to Peru during the conquest of Peru.
01:07:30.440He has a mustache and he's described by the chroniclers as being more fair skin and taller than the, this is not a, this is not commentary on race.
01:08:13.020And everyone else was whatever the tribe they happened to be.
01:08:15.660In fact, in the city of Cusco, city of Cusco was divided into four quarters, just like the empire at large, the Tawantinsuyu, which had four sectors.
01:08:26.460Uh, and, and the, and those sectors, by the way, correspond to the way that the city of, uh, Cusco is divided.
01:08:32.680And I have this whole, uh, there, there, there's a lot you could say there, but, um, and in each sector, each tribe that lived in the city of Cusco subjugated to the Inca had to live and were confined to their sector of the city.
01:08:47.780And by law, they had to dress in their, in their, uh, tribal garb.
01:08:52.980So they had to dress the way their tribal people traditionally dress and they had to stay in their sector.
01:09:20.340I haven't personally seen evidence of this.
01:09:22.040Um, the images of the Inca kings, of the Inca princes and kings kind of, um, negates that theory because none of them depict any of the Inca with elongated skulls.
01:09:37.480However, there are some indications that that might be true.
01:09:41.280Um, and I saw you pulled up some pictures of Atahualpa.
01:09:46.420There's a couple in particular where he has, he has a mustache and some where he doesn't, but there's a couple where he has a mustache.
01:09:52.540And I saw one of Huascar that you pulled up.
01:09:55.260Huascar doesn't have a mustache, but Huascar was just half brother.
01:10:20.900They come from the other tribes that were subjugated by the Inca.
01:10:25.660And, and, and that's not to disparage the Peruvian people at all.
01:10:28.980These were all of these other tribes were remarkable in their own way, but the Inca empire, the Inca lineage is gone.
01:10:35.760Um, it was, it was very purposely eradicated by the Spanish.
01:10:41.320Um, so, uh, I don't know why I went down that path, but.
01:10:45.420Well, we were originally going in this direction of whether or not there is, I guess it would have been the stories from the Inca that the megalithic site that they built upon were actually built by a race of giants.
01:19:56.820In fact, here in the United States, I'm probably the only person who knows.
01:20:00.380Um, but Anselm P. Ramla has documented it and, and, and, um, and did great work over there.
01:20:06.040And I could talk for hours about, uh, about Anselm P. Ramla.
01:20:09.320But, um, so that just gives you an idea of, of how misconstrued some of these megalithic sites are in regard to their, in regard to the conventional narrative.
01:20:20.080That's, that's, that's literally just concocted to explain their existence.
01:20:25.820Um, and, uh, there's, so, there's so much you could, you, you could say about these megalithic sites.
01:20:31.020Um, I do believe that there, there, there was a post-flood culture that could still build megaliths on a smaller scale.
01:20:41.100There was one, the Phoenicians, but aside from the Phoenicians, by the way, who built Solomon's temple?
01:20:49.360The Phoenicians, um, who circumvented, uh, circumnavigated Africa?
01:20:55.400The Phoenicians, who built the battleships in the, in the, uh, and the, the, and the, the, so much of the great palaces in, in Egypt, the Phoenicians.
01:21:05.800So the Phoenicians are, are a, a, an important key to unlocking some of the mysteries of the post-flood ancient world.
01:21:13.760But the Phoenicians, they were the only ones in a, in a post-flood context, as far as I can tell, who could approximate the skill, uh, the abilities of the masons that, that preceded them in the, in the antediluvian world.
01:21:28.500And, and also, by the way, the Phoenicians, there were giants among the Phoenicians, and they had a cult of giant worship.
01:21:36.140Now, do you think, uh, so I was, that was the question I was actually going to ask.
01:21:42.400Is it, uh, was it, is it the people or is it the knowledge that they then are imparted by their predecessors or their lowercase g gods?
01:21:51.800Because, uh, it kind of does draw some overlaps with, uh, for me, with what's been going on with the UFO narrative where, where reverse engineering some of this stuff that has been left behind, crashed here purposefully, or whatever you'd like to think about it.
01:22:07.800We, we are working with this technology.
01:22:10.660It's, it's, it's of my opinion that we're using it right now to talk, because I don't know exactly where you are, but David's about two hours from where I am, and this is a miracle.
01:22:18.820None of this stuff is even connected with, with wire.
01:22:21.300It's kind of going through the air somehow.
01:22:23.600Um, where do, where do aliens fall into this for you?
01:24:08.500So any conscious beings that inhabit the earth that are not the human race are alien to the human race.
01:24:23.040Now that, that applies whether those creatures, whether those entities are from Mars or whether they're from the inner earth or whether they're from some extra dimensional reality, right?
01:24:49.900So an extraterrestrial is not from here.
01:24:53.820Now you could have extraterrestrial beings who have been inhabiting the earth longer than the human species, right?
01:25:02.320They would still be extraterrestrial if they did, if they didn't originate here, even if they've been inhabiting the planet longer than us.
01:25:09.460That's an important thing to keep in mind when you, when you, when you are exposed to the, the many, many different theories of, uh, in, in the, in ufology.
01:25:21.140Um, in regard to these entities, in regard to these, the, the, the alien presence, as I call it.
01:25:30.140There's no question that there's an alien presence.
01:25:33.180Um, the nature of that presence, the provenance of those beings that can be debated.
01:25:37.980Um, and I don't know if I'm answering your question, but you know, there's a whole lot of, and I'm sure in the, in the, in the comments of these kinds of discussions, you're going to get the usual fare.
01:25:50.380You're going to, you're going to get the people who say not the aliens are just extraterrestrial, uh, extradimensionals, uh, not extraterrestrial, extradimensional, or aliens are just demons, blah, blah, blah.
01:26:03.740Those are very easy, simple explanations for something that's very complex.
01:26:08.100And therefore those are very inaccurate explanations.
01:26:11.560So, um, there's this contention that this alien presence, these entities with whom humanity is interacting.
01:26:26.200And interacting today in a very physical way, we're talking about physical craft, reverse engineering of tangible technology, interfacing with physical beings.
01:26:39.760Um, that's the kind of interaction I'm talking about.
01:26:42.460Not like psychic interaction or something like that.
01:26:44.780I'm talking about physical interaction.
01:26:47.340There's this notion that people want to write off what's called the extraterrestrial hypothesis, completely write it off and say, no, no, no.
01:26:55.940These are extradimensionals or ultra terrestrials, or, you know, again, they come from the inner earth, whatever.
01:27:01.460The problem is that we know that the craft, their craft is capable of traversing outer space.
01:27:12.460And obviously I'm going to be triggering all the flat earthers here, but, um, that their craft is capable of, of, of traversing through our upper atmosphere.
01:27:25.340And in, in, in, in, uh, outside of the atmosphere of earth.
01:27:30.500We know that because there have been credible, legitimate, uh, video evidence and photographic evidence, evidence of, of UFO craft, including saucers out there.
01:27:41.680So, so it's, so for me, I'm going to say that the alien presence is at least extraterrestrial.
01:27:53.820Because if they can fly around in the, in, in, in, in the, uh, in outer space, then what's going to inhibit them from flying to Mars or having a base on Mars or originating from Mars or any of the other planets in our solar system?
01:28:25.480And, you know, there could be very, various groups here, but are they inhabiting the earth?
01:28:29.280I think the answer there is also clearly yes, because I think it's, if you do, if you delve into deep into ufology, um, you're going to encounter, I think, sufficient evidence to deduce that let's be specific to gray aliens.
01:28:47.620For example, gray aliens have bases in the earth and under the sea.
01:29:33.260In other words, that there are more than three dimensions, physical dimensions, something like string theory, where there's, you know, 10 different dimensions to our reality that we currently reside in, that we just can't perceive.
01:29:47.380I don't subscribe to alternate world theory.
01:29:50.960I don't subscribe to the notion that there are, uh, multi, a multiverse, which obviously the MCU and so many of the popular movies that have come out in the last 10 years have, have made, made great use of this multiverse idea.
01:30:08.400But, uh, yeah, that premise really caught fire, huh?
01:30:11.340Way too much too, because if they're conflating a bunch of different theories, the multiverse is different than, than an alternative world theory.
01:30:21.040And it's not the same as hyperspace theory, which is what I said, that extras, there are extraspatial dimensions to the reality that we inhabit.
01:31:43.300And the reality is that most people who use that term don't have any idea what they're saying.
01:31:49.020And so they take this and, and forgive me for the rant here, but they take this, this very plausible, rational explanation, the extra terrestrial hypothesis, and they throw it in the garbage in favor of an extra dimensional hypothesis, which they do not understand.
01:32:07.940And nobody really does because we have no idea what another dimension looks like or what, what entities coming from another dimension would look like or how they would act or how they would operate.
01:32:21.940We have no idea because all bets are off when you talk about a multiverse, for example.
01:32:27.200You could be talking about a plane of existence where all of the laws of physics are different.
01:32:34.000That is fantasy as far as I'm concerned.
01:32:35.460So, so, so if that's the case, then all you, this is a realm of speculation that, that requires imagination really.
01:32:46.440And, and, and I'm not discounting that there's, there's maybe something to this extra dimensional hypothesis, not multiverse and not alternative world theory.
01:32:57.500I reject those two on biblical grounds.
01:33:04.300Um, and so these are, it's very important that, that, that people don't try and simplify something that's very complex because you lose the granularity of it.
01:33:14.920You, it's a very low resolution perspective.
01:33:17.400And so, um, in regard to who these entities are, well, there's things that we know about them.
01:33:22.420I'm not sure if this was even your question.
01:33:23.920There's things that we know about them.
01:33:25.800We know that they have nuts and bolts, bolts technology that we can recover and reverse engineer.
01:33:31.560And people might say, well, what makes you think you know that we know that.
01:33:35.640And you can spend three hours explaining why it's, it's, it's really conclusive that that's the fact that that's the reality.
01:33:44.580We know they're physical beings, at least some of them, we know that they're using technology.
01:33:49.100We know that they die, um, and it can be killed in fact.
01:33:55.080So, so we're dealing with a physical reality and they are, are abiding by at least some of what we understand as the laws of physics.
01:34:07.300They're not entering into our reality and doing whatever they want.
01:34:10.720Like, like, like the genie from Aladdin.
01:34:16.660And so the, the extra, and we, as I said before, we also know that their capabilities are such that they can easily maneuver outside of our atmosphere.
01:34:26.420And just as, just as they have bases on the earth, it, it, it, it seems rational to conclude that they have bases elsewhere in the solar system.
01:34:36.580They certainly have the technology apparently to, to, um, to traverse the air in the same way that they traverse the water.
01:34:47.640And even in the documentation, uh, that's been released by the government, when a saucer goes into the sea, when it goes into the water, it moves through the water in the same way it moves through the air.
01:35:00.240In other words, the water, there is no impedance or the water whatsoever.
01:35:05.220It's because it's not moving through the air in the same way it's like, uh, the technology is kind of like actually dragging it forward rather than propelling it forward.
01:35:13.740That's at least what I've understood from Bob Lazar and what he said.
01:35:17.200The space time, space time, it's not moving.
01:36:16.900Sorry, just before, you know, you have to go or anything.
01:36:19.080Where do you put the idea of, uh, accounts saying when people are being abducted or, uh, uh, experiencing sleep paralysis, the name of Jesus Christ breaks that, that occurrence from happening?
01:36:57.880There are numerous accounts, uh, in which, in which Christians are enthusiastically rebuking their abductees, uh, abductors, rather, in the name of Jesus to no effect.
01:37:14.500And in fact, there are some very interesting scenarios in which one case, for example, I believe this is in the work of Carla Turner, the late Dr. Carla Turner, in which, um, an individual is rebuking the abductors.
01:37:27.780It's in the name of Jesus vociferously, enthusiastically, and the grays simply disappear for a minute and come back with Jesus.
01:37:39.900Obviously not Christ, but, but a, a, a, a, in other words, they saw that the abduct, the abductee was distraught, was rebuking them in the name of Jesus.
01:37:52.320So they wanted to, um, diffuse this abductee's panic and fear.
01:37:57.700And so they bring in a Jesus-like figure, probably a hybrid, um, that with, and I believe this figure had blonde hair and a beard and bright blue eyes and, and was, was, um, um, um, comforting this abductee saying, no, it's okay.
01:38:19.580So there's all kinds of stuff like that.
01:38:21.260I've heard, I'm not saying that was Jesus.
01:38:22.800I'm saying that was, that was, uh, um, that was a deception.
01:38:27.660Even from one of our members, I believe, uh, stories similar to that, where they will have, it almost seems like it's within the rules for them to, uh, replicate or deceive.
01:38:37.180Just so long as they can get the consent to do so.
01:38:40.920Well, I've got, you know, so that's, that's what I told you there.
01:38:44.120And there may be sense to what you just said, but there's, there's, what I just cited is stuff that is a particular story that comes out of the data that comes out of, out of the abduction material.
01:38:54.340Um, but then, then I also have plenty of people who I know personally, people who I can attest to that are genuine, sincere believers in Christ who are abductees and who rebuke and, and so forth.
01:39:11.060And, and to no avail, they get abducted.
01:39:14.500Um, but, but here's the, here's the main thing.
01:39:29.400In most cases, in fact, the greys are going to come abduct you in most cases, not always, but in most cases, before they arrive, you're out of it.
01:40:01.060The, the implants that the, the greys implant the abductees with very small, about the size of a pill, um, technological device.
01:40:09.480And I think that part of the, it could have many functions, but, but one of the, one of the most obvious functions would be to control the nervous system.
01:40:17.140And, and other functions of the human body and mind and to render the abductee in a state of, um, um, in a state of compliance, right.
01:41:02.840Um, I don't even know, I just want to ask him like one more thing, but we're going to play a quick Nadeau ad and then, uh, we'll be back.
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01:46:32.220That is the product of medieval Christianity.
01:46:37.480If you're going to, in your statement, aliens are demons, if what you mean by demons is the biblical sense of demon, then you're only talking about the disembodied spirits of dead giants.
01:46:54.320The spirits of the Nephilim, which are the unclean spirits in the New Testament.
01:47:28.460These individuals are unhinged when they're inhabited by these demons.
01:47:31.800And so, you know, all you have to really do is analyze the disposition of the gray alien over and against the disposition of an unclean spirit in the New Testament.
01:47:42.240And you tell me, do these things look similar?
01:48:07.500On the other hand, you have unclean spirits in the New Testament, demons, which are, as I said, unhinged and ravenous and screaming and writhing.
01:48:15.900And people say, well, the gray aliens are the meat suits for the demons.
01:48:21.020But that doesn't make any sense either because you're dealing with the same problem.
01:48:24.560Why would these unclean spirits manifest in one way a human being and in a completely opposite way in a gray alien?
01:48:38.780I mean, it's got to be because the if these were to be sort of a biotech meat suit, that they are limited in their capacity for expression in comparison to God's creation.
01:49:16.280And that they cannot, almost like Al Capone controlling the mob from prison, where he can't be on the outside, but he can still kind of pull the strings.
01:49:42.640And so the idea would be that they can enter this realm through some limited technological means outside of just inhabiting a person, possessing a person, that they can, I suppose, get here through technology, right?
01:49:58.960And sometimes Top and I talk about how it seems as though, if you go back through history, there are always these moments where society is pushed forward a little bit through some sort of technological advancement.
01:50:12.640And that oftentimes it comes in the form of like some lowercase g-god teaching you agriculture, teaching a people agriculture, or, you know, fast forward to the Roswell crash, whether or not, like Top alluded to earlier, that was on purpose or not, isn't really the point.
01:50:31.120The point is we recovered some technology from that, and that maybe that technology informs the technology that we use today.
01:50:38.840And so if you're going, this is obviously theory, right?
01:50:43.040We have no tangible evidence to support this theory.
01:50:45.360But the idea is that maybe there has always been a push to get society to a technological level, advanced enough that something on the other side of the veil could utilize this technology.
01:50:58.660You know, you look at situations like Stargates, and I know I'm dragging you into the weeds here and kind of unprovable jargon.
01:51:10.340So, you know, I have a hard time, I have a hard time putting, like, biblically, putting where these aliens would fall, because they're certainly important in how the next couple of years are going to play out.
01:51:24.320Like, there's just been too much, like, in the past hundred years, too much back and forth.
01:51:29.740And, like, just dangling around this UFO, extraterrestrial, extradimensional, it seems like we're being prepared for something.
01:51:37.820Like, something's about to happen, and it seems big.
01:51:41.960How vivid would your portrait of reality be if you were limited to three crayons to color in that reality?
01:52:06.880Say, you were coloring a portrait of reality, trying to be as accurate as possible, but you're limited to three, let's say, markers, three different colors.
01:52:18.300That's what we're dealing with right now.
01:52:19.860So, we, the Christian community, because, and rightly so, we are based, we are anchored into the biblical narrative, we assume that everything that happens around us in the universe has a direct explanation inside of this text, the 66 books of the Bible.
01:52:47.860So, every kind of being that one might encounter in the universe, therefore, would have to be an angel, a demon, a human, or God, basically.
01:53:04.800And so, that's what I'm talking about.
01:53:05.940So, you've got, like, four colors here that you can use to color in this portrait of reality, and it's just woefully inaccurate.
01:53:16.180So, we have this desire, and we feel that we are constrained to explain everything, all of reality, the compendium of reality, using four terms.
01:53:39.180The compendium of all consciousness in the universe, we feel constrained to describe all of it with four words, angel, demon, human, God.
01:53:47.400And I'm saying that is woefully inaccurate.
01:53:52.520I think we can, we can disabuse ourselves of this constraint.
01:53:59.540We can take the word demon, and we can apply it accurately to where we see demons in the New Testament, the Old Testament, New Testament, really, and understand that that's a thing.
01:54:09.640And then we can take this term, angel, not fallen angel, by the way.
01:54:14.700That's, I understand what the term means, but that's not a biblical term.
01:54:17.020So, we take this term, angel, or sons of God, and we can slot that over here where it's appropriate because we can understand it in regard to the biblical narrative.
01:54:46.600So, there is no reason in my mind, there's no rational, no justifiable rationale in my mind to associate a New Testament unclean spirit, which is a demon, with a gray alien.
01:55:05.400I don't have to make that association.
01:55:07.040I'm not compelled to make that association.
01:56:53.100And when I say we know, and I'm, of course, referencing the abduction material and people who are being abducted who continue to talk.
01:57:02.020So, it feels like, Tim, if we just turn this corner within the scientific community and we started dedicating resources to being able to resist the mechanism that they use to cast us into a hypnosis state or put us into a paralysis state,
01:57:17.880whatever it is, that we could head kick the little ones, leg kick the tall, skinny ones, and end this entire situation.
01:57:26.600That if they just didn't have that one, because everything is like they are weak and thin and frail.
01:57:33.800And oftentimes, when people come to, I've heard stories where they seem worried.
01:57:39.980They want to make you go back to sleep.
01:57:42.880Yes, there's historical accounts of that.
01:57:46.860And then I've also heard several accounts of that from modern-day abductees.
01:57:50.760You could resolve this whole problem with a shotgun if you could interrupt their technology.
01:57:58.560If when they came to get you, rather than you being, which is almost always the case, incapacitated, laying on your bed, can't move, rather than that,
01:58:06.340they come in and you're, I mean, if you, if you could, if you could interfere with the control mechanism,
01:58:12.760problem is part of it is telepathic control.
01:58:17.760But, but, but let's say if you could interfere with this mechanism, because part of it, I think is, I think a big part of it,
01:58:23.280the majority of the control mechanism is the implant, but also that there's telepathic control exerted on the abduct as well.
01:58:28.960But let's say you were impervious to the telepathic control and you've been able to disrupt that technological interference.
01:58:35.680You're going to, you could, you could, you could dispatch with the greys until they deploy whatever technology they have from their craft and, you know, and incinerate you.
01:58:48.200But you could, you could blow the heads off of these things.
02:02:40.120If you ask me, that's, that's, that's, that's, you know, that's pretty, uh, uh, uh, cunning and, and certainly, um, certainly infringes on any, any notion of human freedom.
02:02:55.360And, and, and, you know, um, it's, it's contrary to our will, certainly.
02:03:02.380So, um, it's not difficult to draw that.
02:03:05.420What I think is the obvious conclusion that the greys are little evil bastards.
02:03:08.640And, and, and, and I would say more, more specifically, the insectilines are evil bastards.
02:03:16.980Because the greys, I'm not sure if the greys are even conscious.
02:03:21.320They may be, they very well, maybe, I don't know, but I, I'm pretty sure the insectilines are.
02:03:26.080So, um, for those who don't know, the insectilines are the managers of the abduction program.
02:03:31.760If you're abducted, brought onto a craft, sometimes you'll encounter them, but they are the managers.
02:03:36.840They're the ones controlling the greys.
02:03:38.660Now, somebody controlling the insectilines, maybe, maybe, maybe the Nordics are, I don't know.
02:03:43.000But, um, uh, I think we're dealing with at least four kinds of beings, probably more.
02:03:51.080But I, I think I can say pretty concretely that we're dealing with four.
02:03:54.040And I was pleased that my friend Richard Dolan actually has the same assessment.
02:04:29.100So if you think they're an angelic race, are you saying, uh, like, what, what exactly does that mean?
02:04:34.800And, and then that, that also, does that lend itself to these other things being possibly, like, like, like I was saying before, uh, influenced by something that's not angelic?
02:04:44.640Like, I'm not sure I followed the question.
02:04:48.620If, so if, if one is an angelic race, what do you mean by that?
02:04:53.100Well, uh, in my book, I've heard of these beings as the elder race.
02:04:57.100In other words, they're older than the human species.
02:07:38.040When I say an angelic race, I'm not talking about some ethereal, supernatural genie thing.
02:07:45.000I'm talking about a race, a bona fide race of beings who pre-exist us and who have, and who hail from a civilization that is much more advanced than ours.
02:07:57.580Indeed, I would say this is the kingdom of heaven.
02:08:00.800So, um, they're in play and have been in play since the beginning.
02:08:05.380That's why the premise of ancient, ancient aliens is, in fact, accurate.
02:08:11.900If you subscribe to the Bible, then you know they're in play.
02:08:15.000Um, the greys, the reptilians, the insectulines, I think the evidence is very, uh, is overwhelming, really, in regard to the existence of the greys.
02:08:26.720In regard to the reptilians, not so much, although I do subscribe to the notion that such a race exists.
02:08:35.840Are they extraterrestrial or are they, are they a primordial, uh, terrestrial race that's been here always, these, these, these reptilians?
02:08:53.020So, um, you know, it's complex and, and it's like, there's no way you can really simplify something so complex.
02:08:59.520You just have to deal with it and embrace the complexity.
02:09:03.220Um, and then, you know, stop trying to stop limiting yourself to three markers, three crayons, uh, when, when attempting to color in the contours of reality.
02:09:22.400I love, I like, I like doing our show where we can go off the rails, but I like it even more when somebody can come on and really, uh, you know, give me something that's going, that I'm going to think about for the next week, probably a month or so, and really chew on this.
02:09:36.280Thank you for, thanks for doing that, man.
02:09:49.800Um, and let me, let me, let me make it clear, by the way, that I do believe that, uh, I do believe that Nephilim are still around, uh, giants.
02:09:58.500Uh, you mentioned earlier the Kandahar giant story.
02:10:01.780I'm telling you that's, that, that story is a hundred percent true.
02:10:05.220Um, uh, where at least, at least the, the, uh, um, the elements of that story are a hundred percent true.
02:10:14.300Let's say, uh, I, so I do believe that Nephilim are still around.
02:10:17.540It's not that I don't, that I don't believe in Nephilim.
02:10:19.620And I do believe that, uh, that the unclean spirits, the, the, the, the, these, the spirits of dead Nephilim are still around and still demon possession is, is actually real.
02:10:30.900Although I don't think it occurs as much as people think, but, but, cause there's a limited amount of these things.
02:13:10.700But if, if you're going to, like I said, like you were saying, they're certainly an enemy or an adversary.
02:13:16.520It should, we should be specific about what they are.
02:13:19.900If there indeed is some kind of a culmination coming to a head or a battle or something with them, mixing them up doesn't really help being specific about what they are, what they do, their intentions, their motives.
02:13:32.600They're very, they're all very different.
02:13:34.300So yeah, we should, for the listener base, take that into account.
02:13:38.400Swallow your ego or whatever you were thinking before, take into account what he's saying.
02:13:42.180There's a lot of things out there, you know, Bigfoot's out there somewhere.
02:13:46.100So, um, you know, I mean, we're, we're not, we're not the only players in the game.
02:14:37.520So, um, and I think, uh, I think, you know, put a little bit of thought into it.
02:14:44.120Most people would, would, would, would agree, obviously that that's the case.
02:14:47.620Um, angels were not created on planet earth and, and anyone who thinks they were is just,
02:14:54.680I don't know where they, I don't know where they would, uh, where they would draw that from.
02:14:59.620So that, that, that, that, that, that would be a very, um, that would be a very extra biblical conclusion, certainly, to think that angels derive or, or were.
02:15:13.240Are earth-born creatures, they clearly are not, right?