Nephilim Death Squad - TIME CAPSULE： Between Realms： Conspiracies, Psychedelics, and Hunting the Unknown w⧸ Nick

00:00:00.000 We are being hypnotized by people like this, newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:00:10.780 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:00:19.200 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely

00:00:24.320 Oh yeah, dude, there's some Nephilim shit.

00:00:27.500 It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the

00:00:31.840 home of the brave.

00:00:33.300 These motherfuckers are controlling this now, and no one's talking about how they made us

00:00:37.000 hard to be slaves.

00:00:38.460 And everybody's just walking around, heading to clouds, and won't awake until we're dead

00:00:42.420 in the grave.

00:00:43.660 But hell, it's too late, we need to be ready to raise up.

00:00:46.480 Welcome to the end of day.

00:00:48.220 Everybody is slaves, only some are aware that the government really...

00:00:52.060 Hell yeah.

00:00:54.620 That was a dope intro.

00:00:55.320 So this is, I'm joined today for the Top Lobster Show, episode number two, with my good friend

00:01:01.180 and cousin, John Bernthal.

00:01:03.260 So you've probably seen him on The Walking Dead and The Punisher and a couple...

00:01:07.720 No, this is my cousin, Nick.

00:01:08.820 I don't know what you want to go by.

00:01:11.080 Just Nick.

00:01:11.580 Nick is good or whatever.

00:01:12.440 My alias I use is also my business name, so I use Nico Envision.

00:01:17.380 Okay, Nico Envision.

00:01:18.260 Yeah, Nick.

00:01:18.720 From Envision at Studios.

00:01:20.280 Yeah, he's editing myself.

00:01:21.340 He's like a graphic editor or a graphic...

00:01:23.800 How would you describe that?

00:01:25.280 So I do a lot of cinematic editing and recording in the field, and then I kind of like to get

00:01:30.980 crazy with it and creative, where I add a lot of transitions, a lot of slides, a lot

00:01:36.140 of different motion graphics in with it.

00:01:38.540 But I love to do all my videos to music.

00:01:41.460 I like to sync the music to it, because I think it just makes it pop a little bit more.

00:01:45.280 It gives it a little bit more motion and dynamic.

00:01:47.240 And I've been doing it now for probably for about seven years.

00:01:52.120 Seven years.

00:01:52.900 So I'm still learning.

00:01:54.580 Yeah.

00:01:54.900 It's a process every day.

00:01:56.280 Yeah.

00:01:56.320 He came by to visit us.

00:01:58.100 He comes from like five hours away.

00:01:59.200 So he stopped by.

00:02:00.640 I showed him the little rinky-dink intro video I was working on.

00:02:03.560 He was like, yo, let me hold that real quick.

00:02:05.440 And he just put what you saw right there.

00:02:09.680 So big shout out to Nick for that.

00:02:11.940 But as we were sitting here talking, before we were even doing any of this stuff, we just

00:02:16.700 naturally start talking about interesting things.

00:02:20.540 Everything.

00:02:21.480 Everything under the sun.

00:02:22.760 Yeah.

00:02:23.520 And you do, I guess you're into, you do some psychedelics.

00:02:28.260 You do a lot of, how do we start the conversation?

00:02:31.420 You were talking about.

00:02:35.440 I think we were referring to times that where I had tried psychedelics.

00:02:41.520 And instead of doing them for recreational purposes, like I've always went into it with

00:02:48.240 wanting to learn something about myself.

00:02:50.160 So I felt like it's always kept me out of that headspace where people say, you need to

00:02:55.300 be in good spirits.

00:02:56.000 You need to feel a certain way for you to do it.

00:02:57.960 Instead, I said, no, I feel bad about something right now.

00:03:00.820 So I want to learn something about myself.

00:03:02.560 And I went under that impression.

00:03:04.240 I could personally say that I've never had what some would consider a bad trip, or they

00:03:08.680 felt like they were too scared and they had to hide under their blanket or go inside the

00:03:11.980 bathroom and lock the door or something.

00:03:13.600 So all my experiences have been really eye-opening.

00:03:17.840 And I've learned a lot about myself and a lot about just things around the world.

00:03:23.760 Um, just not, not physical things that you can see, but more of like the feeling of what

00:03:28.380 you get when you're out in nature and when you, uh, and just paying attention a little

00:03:32.100 bit more from taste all the way to visuals, everything you learn.

00:03:37.340 I could see how like someone like you.

00:03:39.140 So for the audience that doesn't know, he's also, you're kind of like an outfitter, right?

00:03:42.820 What would you call yourself?

00:03:43.780 Like a lot.

00:03:44.440 Do you still do that?

00:03:45.100 Like bring people out?

00:03:46.400 Yeah, we do.

00:03:46.960 So I have a show, um, that right now is a little bit on pause while I'm training my

00:03:52.120 own hog hunting dogs, um, called hog wild.

00:03:55.440 Um, so it's on my YouTube channel.

00:03:57.660 Um, I envisioned it studios and it's pretty cool.

00:04:00.340 I just did some cinematic hog hunting videos with the dogs that we run.

00:04:03.880 And it's, it's probably one of the most primitive ways to go hunting.

00:04:07.200 And I think one of the most fair ways to go hunting because maybe 60 to 70% of the time,

00:04:12.460 you know, the hogs are much bigger.

00:04:13.760 They're much faster.

00:04:14.500 I mean, their bodies are stout and they're made to cut through.

00:04:16.960 The grass and the brush.

00:04:18.140 And meanwhile, we're praying that the dogs can hold them up long enough that we can get

00:04:22.360 to them and describe this process.

00:04:23.980 Cause I've, I've told people about it, but it doesn't do it justice because it's just

00:04:28.360 insanity.

00:04:29.140 Yeah.

00:04:29.460 It's, it's, um, it's pretty much straightforward.

00:04:32.340 So we do have electronics that we put onto the dogs.

00:04:34.780 We use GPS collars, um, and we have GPS trackers as well.

00:04:38.700 Um, some people decide to outfit their dogs with actual Kevlar armor.

00:04:43.120 There's different, um, companies that, that will ask for your dog's measurements.

00:04:46.760 And then they'll outfit them.

00:04:47.820 And the Kevlar really does help because as you know, hogs grow, hogs grow tusks.

00:04:53.220 Now it's, it's more on the rare side that you find hogs are really big tusks, but it seems

00:04:58.160 to be the hogs with the smaller tusks that do the most damage that really can cut.

00:05:01.540 And we'll have Kevlar vest after the dogs have been tussling with a hog before we get

00:05:06.720 to it, where the Kevlar itself is split open, but imagine without that armor.

00:05:10.960 So usually dogs, they're more headstrong, that are more aggressive, that get into the

00:05:14.360 hog's face.

00:05:15.600 Um, specifically catch dogs, they'll outfit with vests because they're going to be the

00:05:19.320 muscle of the operation.

00:05:20.300 Dogs like what I have, Catahoulas or Kerr dogs, um, they can work both ways.

00:05:26.140 They can work as running catch dogs, which means that they will, um, not only will they

00:05:31.320 go and find them and try to keep them in a corner, but they will fight them.

00:05:35.160 Like grab by the neck and subdue sort of, or try to kill.

00:05:37.940 So they, so they tried to, well, so if you go up, so if you go up to North Florida, where

00:05:41.700 my friends are, I mean, uh, in the Lake city area, they train their dogs to kill it.

00:05:46.560 And it's understandable because the terrain is crazy.

00:05:48.960 I mean, we go out to a place called Mallory Swamp and you have to check this place out.

00:05:52.900 You YouTube it.

00:05:53.560 It's just, it's as primitive as Florida can get.

00:05:56.640 I mean, it's literally no man's land.

00:05:58.480 If you get hurt out there, bit by a snake, anything happens to you, you are fucked.

00:06:02.720 Am I allowed to curse?

00:06:03.620 Yeah, curse all you want.

00:06:04.400 All right, fuck yeah.

00:06:05.260 So anyhow, um, so there, because of the dangers to humans and animals, you want to train the

00:06:10.940 dogs to be able to fend for themselves because it might be a while before we can get there.

00:06:14.900 Sometimes they cross canals.

00:06:16.120 There's gator filled canals and we're trying to figure out a way around.

00:06:19.700 Sometimes they get caught in cat barb or some, some thistles or something that's sharp.

00:06:24.400 And then we can't physically go through.

00:06:26.060 So the dog needs to fend for itself.

00:06:28.040 So up there, typically we run anywhere from eight to 15 dogs and it'd be all sorts of breeds,

00:06:36.940 but usually hound dogs, cur dogs, pit bulls, um, um, breeds of that nature.

00:06:42.740 Ticks use blue tick, red tick.

00:06:44.240 We don't use the blue, those, those hound dogs more like for treeing things like, um,

00:06:48.340 they use them for, I mean, like, like those, those types of hounds bear, you know, things

00:06:52.140 that run up trees, bear, panther, raccoon, stuff like that.

00:06:54.920 And, um, it's, they, they do use them for hogs here as well.

00:06:58.660 Um, up North, I know there's a few people that have, um, the blue tick coonhounds, um,

00:07:03.040 and the walker hounds, um, and they love them.

00:07:05.460 Um, they're super noisy.

00:07:06.660 I mean, you want a dog that will bark, it's bark your head off, then get that dog.

00:07:10.400 But all of them, all of them, that's what they're bred to do instinctually.

00:07:13.600 Instinctually, they'll go after prey.

00:07:14.820 They'll go after large game and they'll go after, um, them and bark them to death.

00:07:18.280 But, and then the other side of it is having a, uh, a bay dog, which, um, is just the dog

00:07:24.380 would kind of like have that herding instinct to keep the animal in one spot and it would

00:07:28.560 run circles around it if it has to, but it will not engage.

00:07:31.680 So the likelihood of injury is very little.

00:07:33.980 So these dogs usually, because they're so athletic, we don't want to overheat them.

00:07:37.340 So we'll keep vests off them, maybe put like a Kevlar collar on to protect their, the main

00:07:41.960 area.

00:07:42.360 But yeah, so those are all your types of dogs for hog hunting.

00:07:45.880 Yeah.

00:07:46.280 So you would, uh, your dog would find the prey, the hog, um, either attack it, distract

00:07:53.820 it.

00:07:54.200 And then what's the job of the human?

00:07:55.860 What are you doing afterward?

00:07:57.220 Because it's not just you, right?

00:07:58.260 You're out there with a team.

00:07:59.200 You got a couple of guys.

00:08:00.280 Right.

00:08:00.580 So I, I rightly so, I like to call it redneck CrossFit or backward, back, back country CrossFit.

00:08:06.620 And, uh, for the reason that usually some people ride on buggies, which would, I guess, make

00:08:11.420 it easier for you to get to where your animals are at.

00:08:13.200 And some places probably do require you to do that because of, you know, we live in

00:08:16.160 a small, always going in water.

00:08:18.120 But, um, an area that we hunt in Okeechobee, um, we're on foot.

00:08:22.560 So generally on these GPS collars, the dogs, they range out anywhere from, from 300 yards

00:08:29.460 all the way out to over a mile.

00:08:31.020 So imagine looking at your GPS and the GPS itself will tell you when they're barking, what

00:08:35.560 if they're treed, um, if they're moving and you could see their exact pattern.

00:08:39.080 So you'll know if they're chasing something.

00:08:40.500 So our goal is run there as fucking fast as you can before the dog scarer and before your

00:08:46.500 food gets away.

00:08:47.760 So that's the name of the game.

00:08:49.540 And that's why I say it's such a high likelihood that in this fairness of hunting, the hogs

00:08:54.440 may just get away and it is what it is, but it makes it even more rewarding when you do

00:08:58.660 get them because you've actually worked.

00:09:00.500 So when you get them, I know how to do this, but I'm leading the question here for the,

00:09:04.280 for the viewers.

00:09:05.040 So your dog has pinned, pinned it down.

00:09:06.900 You've gotten there in time and, uh, the, the pig's not dead pig.

00:09:11.220 The hog hasn't escaped.

00:09:12.560 How do you make the kill?

00:09:13.740 What are you doing?

00:09:14.620 Okay.

00:09:14.980 So first of all, we send out the running catch dogs and the bay dogs, and then they'll find

00:09:18.860 it.

00:09:19.060 They'll bark.

00:09:19.640 We'll see them on the GPS and we make our way there.

00:09:22.000 Meanwhile, we are equipped with catch dogs.

00:09:24.160 Usually they're like American pit bull terriers and bulldogs that have the full vest and we

00:09:28.820 don't want them ranging out like that because they're stout and strong and they will

00:09:32.900 tire out that much faster.

00:09:33.960 So don't want them wasting that energy.

00:09:35.860 We'll walk to an area where we can finally hear clearly that, that the dog will understand

00:09:41.400 where the pig is squealing or where the hog is squealing or making noise or trying to fight

00:09:46.020 the dogs and the dogs are barking.

00:09:47.340 At that point, we give them the command, like, you know, get them up or go get them or whatever

00:09:52.000 you choose to command your dog.

00:09:53.600 But they understand the assignment and then it will make a beeline straight for the hog.

00:09:57.440 And the catch dog, once they get on it, they lock onto the hog itself, to its ears.

00:10:02.840 Generally, we want them to do it on the ears.

00:10:05.160 I mean, younger dogs may try to bite a limb or might try to bite the back or the stomach

00:10:09.800 or the neck.

00:10:10.660 But the goal is definitely the ears.

00:10:12.220 We want them holding down the ears.

00:10:13.680 Does it control the hog a little better or is it just more, it's more like a distraction

00:10:18.220 thing, right?

00:10:18.580 Because you're coming to do a different job.

00:10:20.020 Right.

00:10:20.200 No, it actually controls the dog.

00:10:21.340 And there's competitions right now, like out in Texas, they do this bay dog competitions

00:10:24.920 and these hog competitions, they'll release catch dogs and they'll release their bay dogs

00:10:28.880 and how they perform.

00:10:30.440 And generally, what they want to do is see the dog control the hog.

00:10:34.100 And the way that you control mostly everything is by the head.

00:10:36.520 So grabbing the ear like that, the dog is able to latch on and control its head by keeping

00:10:40.260 its snout down.

00:10:41.520 They're very top heavy.

00:10:42.840 So while they're occupying the front, we make our way towards the back, so to speak.

00:10:47.920 So it's literally like you're picking up a wheelbarrow.

00:10:51.080 Two legs.

00:10:51.320 Exactly.

00:10:51.940 So there's many different versions, styles of how people do this.

00:10:54.920 Some people like to flip the hog and then they'll hobble them up and they'll just capture

00:10:57.780 them live and take them to a different point before they harvest it.

00:11:02.980 What we do personally is, since we manage the wildlife in that area as well, if it's like

00:11:09.600 a boar hog, they generally stink.

00:11:13.100 They have a lot of testosterone in them and how they smell is how they taste.

00:11:16.080 And I'm not about to eat something that rank.

00:11:18.300 I mean, honestly, it's bad.

00:11:19.440 Like smelling it and tasting exactly that smell, like it would turn you off or turn anybody

00:11:23.400 off to wanting to eat wild game, which is a shame because I've made some delicious pork

00:11:28.240 dishes from wild hog and nobody would ever tell.

00:11:30.900 My coworkers were never able to tell.

00:11:32.220 Nobody's able to tell.

00:11:33.040 I let them know this.

00:11:33.640 And man, that's good.

00:11:34.360 So bring more.

00:11:35.140 I know.

00:11:35.300 Can you, can you give me some of that?

00:11:36.620 And one hog itself, maybe 140 pound hog can afford me food for probably a couple of weeks

00:11:41.860 if I ate it consistently.

00:11:42.740 If you guys came out to the top lobster ranch when Robbie the Fire was out here, Nick was

00:11:47.240 the dude who bought the, I cooked, how much pork did you cook?

00:11:51.580 Probably a couple of pounds.

00:11:52.220 That was just, that was probably like, like a six pound rump because I mean, I had everything

00:11:59.080 on it.

00:12:00.320 There you go.

00:12:00.980 So you guys might've eaten some of this shit already.

00:12:02.940 So everybody give thanks and slow, slow and slow is the key.

00:12:09.040 So, uh, so I guess you're saying, uh, you could either neuter it, right?

00:12:13.020 That'll eliminate this, this testosterone smell.

00:12:15.320 Correct.

00:12:15.680 And the term is called barring.

00:12:17.020 So when you bar a hog, um, it literally is, is neutering it on the field.

00:12:21.620 And the whole purpose of that, um, is one it's wildlife management because they're, they're

00:12:27.120 a feral animal and hogs are very, very destructive to all the residents.

00:12:31.540 I mean, between crops and fences and farms, they destroy.

00:12:35.740 So keeping them in, um, in a nice populated manner, you don't have to worry about, you can

00:12:43.140 have fun still, and you're not as worried as things getting destroyed.

00:12:47.000 So barring these male hogs, that's fine.

00:12:49.560 So some, there's plenty out there.

00:12:51.400 So we're definitely going to end up seeing piglets year round.

00:12:54.020 They mate year round.

00:12:54.900 There's no season for pig mating.

00:12:56.320 I mean, they're making bacon year round, man.

00:12:58.700 So, um, yeah, um, we'll bar them.

00:13:02.500 Literally, it's just making a small incision, popping the testicles out, you know, cutting

00:13:06.420 them off, you know, you throw one in the woods and then you throw the other at your hunting

00:13:09.640 buddy.

00:13:10.960 As is customary.

00:13:12.640 Um, sometimes depending, like if it's, if it's really dirty, we'll have like this purple

00:13:17.040 antibiotic spray.

00:13:18.000 I mean, as you could get from tractor supply.

00:13:20.120 Yeah.

00:13:20.320 Um, usually people spray it on like wounds on horses and cows and stuff.

00:13:23.760 So we could spray a little bit of that and you know, we'll have the hot, the, the dogs

00:13:27.740 all pulled back and chained up and everybody, you know, stays clear because they're super

00:13:31.380 aggressive and they will attack you.

00:13:32.700 Yeah.

00:13:33.020 So we take the hobble off and then, you know, just release it or maybe just walk it in the

00:13:36.820 wheel, wheelbarrow method to a corner somewhere.

00:13:39.160 And then, you know, buy a tree and let it go in and jump on the tree.

00:13:42.100 And actually I have a little, um, video that I made in the small house.

00:13:45.120 You're calling it.

00:13:45.720 Yeah.

00:13:45.960 No.

00:13:46.180 So I let the little female pig go.

00:13:48.080 I let this show go.

00:13:49.560 And, um, and I did it wrong, but I anticipated cause I saw her turn around and look at me

00:13:54.260 and she went and I was wearing these boots and she bit my, she went and bit my boot.

00:13:58.400 And I don't know why it freaked me out because like, I've came across bears in the woods.

00:14:01.960 I've came across panthers and they had not freaked me out as much as this little pig coming

00:14:06.060 from my life.

00:14:06.800 I mean, bit my boot, my boots thick, so I didn't really care, but it freaked me out.

00:14:10.340 I jumped onto this tree and I was like, ah, you know, so I started yelling a little bit.

00:14:13.340 It was funny.

00:14:13.660 My buddy is just watching me.

00:14:14.860 He's laughing at me, but, um, yeah, that little thing, I caught it on a GoPro 360.

00:14:18.720 So you really get the perspective of like what's going on and see the whole picture of my

00:14:22.560 friend in the back with the dogs and he's not far away.

00:14:25.040 He's like maybe 10 yards away.

00:14:26.840 He doesn't think it's a big deal, but I let this thing go and it turns around and attacks

00:14:29.940 you.

00:14:30.240 It was hilarious, man.

00:14:31.080 We'll link to this video.

00:14:32.120 We'll link to your whole site in the description here if people want to check this out.

00:14:34.880 Cause he's got some like real great 4k stuff to some cool music.

00:14:38.140 And it's just like, it's a chaotic scene, man.

00:14:40.740 Yeah, man.

00:14:41.440 Yeah.

00:14:41.640 I like the word chaotic.

00:14:42.760 I think that's where my creativity comes from.

00:14:44.700 Chaotic is, is really aesthetic.

00:14:46.520 I think when you're looking at videos online.

00:14:48.440 So yeah, if you could, if you can somewhat organize it a little bit, it can be definitely aesthetic

00:14:53.040 and beautiful, but yeah, that's, that's it.

00:14:54.780 That's kind of what we're going for with the whole show.

00:14:56.500 That's a, that's the whole thing that attracts me.

00:14:59.300 Anyway, we'll link to this.

00:15:00.840 You go check out his stuff because it's, it is crazy.

00:15:04.040 It's like, I didn't even intend on talking about this.

00:15:06.940 I just, I'm like, Oh yeah, you do this too.

00:15:09.080 But it's so interesting.

00:15:10.160 I think you guys will get a kick out of it if you go check it out.

00:15:12.280 Um, but it, it makes me think like, so now that you, you're seeing the type of person

00:15:16.560 that Nick is where he's very much, you're like an outdoorsman.

00:15:19.460 You're like, you're like, he comes to my house and he's like, I'm going to just hunt

00:15:23.760 something in your yard.

00:15:25.720 Yeah.

00:15:26.080 But then he's also like, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to mess around with like,

00:15:29.840 uh, like mushrooms or psychedelics.

00:15:31.500 I want to see what's on the other side.

00:15:32.600 I want to, I want to explore myself.

00:15:34.340 And it's an interesting thing because that, that kind of a stereotype or trope is usually

00:15:39.680 put on like, uh, somebody like, yeah, you don't know Ian Crossland from, uh, Tim Cass,

00:15:44.460 but he's like a very frail, skinny guy.

00:15:46.060 And he's like, right.

00:15:46.660 I like to meditate and be on the other side.

00:15:49.640 It's like, it's not necessarily that type of man.

00:15:52.220 It's, it, this is for anybody or everybody who has questions, but for somebody like you,

00:15:56.980 who's very rugged in that sense, it's an interesting, uh, it's an interesting dynamic or wrinkle

00:16:01.880 to your personality to be wanting to explore this kind of, uh, this, this territory that

00:16:08.640 people generally are either scared of, ignore, or say doesn't exist.

00:16:13.000 Right.

00:16:13.880 Right.

00:16:14.220 Yeah.

00:16:14.340 I commend you for that.

00:16:15.140 You, you were telling me a story just today about, uh, who is he, our cousin or, sorry,

00:16:20.320 or your cousin or something like that.

00:16:22.080 Uh, the one that drove down.

00:16:24.440 Oh, from Ocala.

00:16:25.720 Yeah.

00:16:26.380 About, um, it was about nine years ago.

00:16:30.420 Yeah.

00:16:30.800 And it was, it was super trippy.

00:16:32.460 Um, because at the time I had just gotten divorced.

00:16:35.840 Um, I was living out of my mom's house and I had lost touch with these there.

00:16:41.140 They have the same last name.

00:16:42.120 They're not really cousins, but we share the same last name and they lived when we lived

00:16:46.220 in, in Brooklyn, they lived on the second floor and we lived on the fifth floor.

00:16:49.620 So we were just very assimilated.

00:16:51.680 Um, but I would hang out with them all the time.

00:16:53.460 We lost touch for a while.

00:16:54.360 And then randomly I hadn't talked to him at all, no contact or anything.

00:16:57.340 And I get a phone call and I'm wondering, like, I don't know this area says Texas on

00:17:02.260 it.

00:17:02.440 And I, I pick it up and then it's him.

00:17:04.420 And I'm like, Hey, what's up, brother?

00:17:05.840 You know, I'm, I'm excluding his name or whatever, just for privacy.

00:17:08.220 But, um, yeah, he got back in touch with me and he said, Hey, yeah, I want to come

00:17:11.780 and see you.

00:17:12.420 I'm like, you want to come and see me?

00:17:13.620 It's, uh, well, it's like three o'clock right now.

00:17:16.660 I said, are you close?

00:17:17.520 He said, no, no, I'm in Ocala.

00:17:18.640 I said, okay.

00:17:19.640 Um, and he drove down from Ocala made it to my house, like around nine o'clock, eight,

00:17:23.720 nine o'clock or whatever.

00:17:24.600 So I thought, yeah, man, it's great seeing you or whatever.

00:17:27.460 And you know, it's just some, something, something off about him, like, like socially, like how

00:17:32.740 the interaction went.

00:17:33.600 I didn't expect it to be so, um, so awkward, almost like an Asperger's type awkward.

00:17:39.840 You like say hi to somebody Asperger's, but they may not get it.

00:17:42.340 Everybody listening right now, all of you motherfuckers, I'm onto you.

00:17:47.260 Some of them, some of them don't have Asperger's, but most are autistic.

00:17:50.340 So go continue.

00:17:51.320 That's okay, man.

00:17:51.940 It's a, it's a blessing of its own, man.

00:17:53.500 Right.

00:17:53.740 There's just no bad, bad mental illness out there or anything that's going on with the

00:17:57.360 brain.

00:17:57.620 But, um, yeah.

00:17:58.480 So he came down.

00:18:00.500 I said, yeah, man.

00:18:01.500 So yeah, you want to come in?

00:18:02.620 He's like, Hey, he wants to go out.

00:18:03.420 I said, okay.

00:18:03.760 So we went to a downtown area that was local.

00:18:06.320 Um, I invited another friend just because, you know, I felt like the vibe was, you know, I was

00:18:10.220 feeling the vibe out.

00:18:11.180 I didn't know what was going on.

00:18:12.640 And, um, I noticed the first thing, um, besides all the small banter and small talk, when

00:18:18.300 we went to this, this bar, um, he ordered a Johnny Walker red with Sprite.

00:18:25.400 This is, I love this story.

00:18:26.700 Cause like a lot of the story is strange.

00:18:30.000 So before this, you're saying that he drove, he drove from Texas to Ocala, which is on a

00:18:36.320 motorcycle, on a motorcycle, got a different car from his sister.

00:18:39.720 Yes.

00:18:40.160 His sister's car, his sister's Jeep Liberty.

00:18:41.780 And then drove down another five hours, another five or six hours to you, which is very strange.

00:18:47.800 But the part that sticks out to Nick that he keeps saying, he's like, we went to a bar

00:18:50.820 and he ordered the, what is it?

00:18:52.720 Johnny Walker red, Johnny Walker red and Sprite and Sprite.

00:18:56.180 Very straight.

00:18:56.980 Let me just say this real quick.

00:18:57.980 I'm sorry, guys.

00:18:58.500 I almost forgot.

00:18:59.220 We're doing, we're on Twitter spaces as well.

00:19:01.620 And, uh, after we wrap up this conversation, we'll keep it like to an hour.

00:19:05.720 So if anyone has questions or something like that, I'll be happy to let you pop in.

00:19:10.260 We can hear you from this side.

00:19:11.400 It would be, I think it would be a kind of a cool wrinkle.

00:19:12.920 If you have a question for John Bernthal about, yeah, yeah.

00:19:18.120 And anything, but go ahead.

00:19:19.140 So, so yeah, so he drives, he drives, uh, from Texas to Ocala to, from Ocala to you.

00:19:25.940 Correct.

00:19:26.380 And then we go to, um, a bar in Delray beach, Florida, the Sprite and the Johnny Walker,

00:19:31.560 Johnny Walker, red flags, red flags.

00:19:34.740 Um, the conversation is real awkward.

00:19:36.820 We were just trying to play catch up.

00:19:38.260 Let me ask you when you saw him this time, was he, was it the same person that you knew

00:19:43.140 like in the projects in Coney Island or was it a negative, negative, completely, completely

00:19:47.760 different.

00:19:48.240 Like as much as I wanted to believe it was the same person, there was just such an oddity

00:19:53.120 to the personality and to the, his, his entire aura that I was like something like intuitive,

00:19:59.020 intuitively just by, you know, body language, nothing psychic, just his body language, his

00:20:03.240 mannerisms.

00:20:04.020 They just seem very, very off, almost like somebody is holding a secret from you and

00:20:07.800 they don't want to tell you and they're just trying to play it off, but you're read directly

00:20:12.180 like a book.

00:20:13.040 So I sensed that.

00:20:14.380 And, um, he kept bringing up some odd stuff, um, when we were, um, at the bar and we were

00:20:20.160 drinking and he only had that one drink and he didn't even finish it.

00:20:22.920 Mind you, I had a drink, I guess so.

00:20:26.000 And then, um, I, you know, I just, I had like, um, something called like a snake bite.

00:20:29.920 It's a mix of, of beers.

00:20:31.620 So I wasn't really drinking heavy too.

00:20:33.480 You know, I'm not a, a, really a drinking person.

00:20:36.000 Um, but, um, we go to leave and I'm the one that's driving.

00:20:41.000 And as I'm driving back to my place, mind you, with, with my friend sitting in the back

00:20:45.440 and him sitting, or he's sitting in the back of my friend sitting in the passenger seat.

00:20:48.940 And he's like, Hey, so listen, I need to tell you my purpose of even coming here.

00:20:55.420 And me and my friend just looked at each other and I'm thinking like, is he going to like

00:20:58.440 pull out a knife and he's going to slice my throat and just say, he's doing the Lord's

00:21:01.180 work or I have no clue.

00:21:02.560 So, um, he said that he came down because he was, he spoke with an angel on a trip that

00:21:08.760 he was having.

00:21:10.080 Um, and he told me in his trip that, that the angel told him to throw a handball, like

00:21:15.700 in New York, we have hand, they have handball.

00:21:17.940 So it's a little bit different.

00:21:18.900 It's just like a racquetball.

00:21:20.360 Yeah.

00:21:20.720 It's a little, it's a, it's, it's, it's a, a little blue ball.

00:21:23.640 And instead of three walls, like a racquetball court, you just have one wall and it has the

00:21:26.840 lines as if those other two walls existed.

00:21:28.780 And the rules basically are the same, um, with a little variance to it.

00:21:33.680 But, um, he said that he had this, had this vision and, and, and this angel told him that

00:21:39.260 he was to tell two people, deliver a message to only two people.

00:21:42.980 And it was his other cousin that still lives in New York and to me.

00:21:46.700 And I'm like, okay, so what was it?

00:21:48.740 And he is telling me, um, basically, I wish I remembered exactly the words verbatim, but,

00:21:54.220 um, essentially it was like, stop living.

00:21:58.780 Stop living this lie in your life that you're doing your utmost for God when you're actually

00:22:03.540 shunning him away.

00:22:04.500 And I'm thinking like, this is weird because I was stuck in a real weird religious space.

00:22:09.260 Um, and I was having conflicting thoughts even about it myself.

00:22:13.160 Like I was, I was in that mode of life.

00:22:14.760 Like, you know, am I doing right by God?

00:22:16.780 Am I, am I serving him the correct way?

00:22:18.140 But according to these other people, you know, I've made a lot of mistakes and it's going

00:22:21.300 to take me a lot longer.

00:22:22.260 I'm really going to have to show God that, that I am actually sorry for whatever sins I had

00:22:27.220 committed against him and do better.

00:22:29.080 But meanwhile, the friends that I was, as I was associating with that I considered, you

00:22:33.260 know, like my blood, we're doing very questionable things themselves.

00:22:36.320 And it would be myself at that time trying to be the more moral person and say, Hey, like

00:22:41.020 this type of music that you're listening to, you know, it's a little awkward.

00:22:43.500 Don't you think that there could be something behind it?

00:22:45.180 And according, um, to the religion that I was in, um, which is Jehovah's witness.

00:22:50.840 Um, so I want to just go out on that right there.

00:22:53.320 So that's exactly what I'm referring to.

00:22:54.740 I want to get into that because it's, uh, but go ahead, finish your story.

00:22:58.820 Yeah.

00:22:59.380 So I was, so the whole gist of it is I was in a weird headspace, but even when he was

00:23:03.780 telling me, when he was talking about that stuff, kind of see, it seemed oddly familiar.

00:23:08.780 And mind you, I had not spoken with him in a very, very long time.

00:23:12.880 Like the last time I'd seen him was when my grandmother passed away and I was 20 years

00:23:17.480 old, I believe, or 19.

00:23:19.080 And that was the last time that I had seen him, but I didn't really get to hang out with

00:23:21.380 him.

00:23:23.540 Um, and yeah, so when he told me that I was like, okay, like, I just try to play it off.

00:23:29.940 Like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I certainly felt what he was talking about.

00:23:35.460 And I didn't give him the indication that it really meant something.

00:23:38.380 The more I thought about it, I was, I'm an overthinker.

00:23:40.500 And, uh, you know, these words are repetitive in my head.

00:23:42.440 I'm just going to like break down from beginning to end why he would even feel the need, because

00:23:47.580 that's a long trip, right?

00:23:48.600 From, I mean, he, he drove from, from, I mean, without any sleep, but mind you, he's also

00:23:53.480 a CDL driver.

00:23:54.440 So he's a truck driver.

00:23:55.700 So I mean, he's conditioned exactly.

00:23:57.720 So it's, it's not that extreme or uncanny that he would drive 12, 14, 16 hours or whatever.

00:24:02.460 But like to the, it's the will to do it, especially somebody like, you know, if, if you, if you're

00:24:08.060 going to do something for work, like if you're like, if, if your job is to edit videos, you're

00:24:11.860 not necessarily, I mean, you'll do it for fun, but it is kind of a thing where it's

00:24:15.300 like, someone gives it to you, like, this is work, you know?

00:24:17.740 So it's like the mindset that he'd have to get into to do that kind of, that kind of

00:24:22.900 task is like, it seemed imperative, like whatever he had to do.

00:24:26.980 Major inspiration.

00:24:28.480 Yeah.

00:24:28.720 Inspired.

00:24:29.340 You know, like when you need to do something and you want something so bad, like there's

00:24:33.140 nothing that's going to hinder you from accomplishing that thing.

00:24:37.020 Yeah.

00:24:37.240 So I think, um, his conviction definitely was, um, spiritually alarming.

00:24:43.460 So I allowed it without trying to demean him and say, bro, you were just tripping.

00:24:50.300 You were just tripping on something and that's all it was.

00:24:53.540 But, um, but what he told you, what he told me, and it resonated with me.

00:24:57.420 Um, because I, it, to me, I read it as I was having questionable doubts that were valid

00:25:03.240 about me being a Jehovah's witness at the time.

00:25:05.980 And I needed to find myself because I literally felt like I am just living and doing everything

00:25:12.500 for acceptance of people, not God, not God.

00:25:16.220 And how dare I dumb down God's presence or his wisdom or his love by saying that it's

00:25:22.240 impossible for him to love me in some sort of sense, you know?

00:25:25.500 This is actually a good point to segue into like what this is, because you came over.

00:25:31.060 I didn't even really know that you were, I knew that your family was, were a Jehovah's

00:25:34.420 witness, but I didn't know how deep into the religion you were.

00:25:37.440 And I also don't understand it.

00:25:39.000 It's one of those things like, like Mormonism, like you'll see the book of Mormon and it's

00:25:42.220 like, you know, there's like sprinkled in of like, like jokes, but like then what they

00:25:46.440 actually believe sprinkled in.

00:25:47.460 It's what I knew about Jehovah's witnesses where it's just kind of like, Oh, these guys

00:25:51.080 that sit on the street with the pamphlets.

00:25:52.920 I know some things, but you were explaining to me like, like the nitty gritty of, and I think

00:25:57.820 it's really interesting.

00:25:59.920 I like, again, I don't, I don't want to give them a bad name.

00:26:02.760 I just think, I think that is very interesting.

00:26:05.000 The psychology of it.

00:26:06.560 I don't think that they're trying to hurt people, but I'll let, you know, I'll let other

00:26:11.500 people be the judge of, but just explain to us.

00:26:13.200 I don't think so either.

00:26:14.000 I don't, I don't think that, that anybody's trying to hurt anybody.

00:26:16.240 There's a very, there's a very good people in, in all walks of life from Muslim to Jewish

00:26:20.240 to, to Christian, to Hindu, to Shinto, all of them.

00:26:24.360 Right.

00:26:24.580 But also in every single aspect of life, religious or not, you have extremists and it's these

00:26:28.960 extremists that really leave a bad taste for whatever it is in your mouth, forcing your

00:26:34.300 will that you personally interpret from how you're reading, whatever book of worship or

00:26:39.420 whatever practices that you do and trying to impose it upon somebody else's moral lifestyle.

00:26:45.740 So for instance, tattoos, right?

00:26:48.440 For the longest period of time, even in the secular world, if you had tattoos, you were looked

00:26:52.580 at as somebody that was more, more, more shady, like possibly a criminal, maybe into drugs.

00:26:58.580 Like they associated this body ornament with something bad, had a bad connotation.

00:27:04.140 And now today it's not uncanny at all to find many people employed in many places of high

00:27:09.560 stature that have tattoos everywhere.

00:27:12.380 You know, I mean, minus some things that we still have a big stigma about facial tattoos,

00:27:16.120 neck tattoos.

00:27:16.660 Like even that, even I've, I've started to grown, like to grow more accepting to facial

00:27:22.460 tattoos or neck tattoos.

00:27:23.820 It also, it depends on obviously what it is.

00:27:25.860 Like if your whole face is like, which is blacked out, I'm like, it's a little weird,

00:27:28.400 but sometimes, I mean, depending on the person, I think that it's, it's culturally acceptable

00:27:33.300 and also the artistic form of it too.

00:27:35.020 It's like, yeah, yeah.

00:27:36.460 So it's how they interpret that.

00:27:37.920 That's how they interpret their, their own body art.

00:27:40.000 I mean, some, hopefully they don't regret it.

00:27:42.100 Cause that's the biggest thing, right?

00:27:42.980 Don't get a tattoo mom and dad said, because that's why I don't have one yet because I

00:27:46.680 don't know clean boy.

00:27:48.040 I'm clean.

00:27:48.520 Well, no, I'm getting, I'm going to get, I want to get a whole, you know, a whole sleeve

00:27:51.120 and all that, but it's, it's a thing like, yeah, he's, he's tatted up.

00:27:53.980 You got two sleeves.

00:27:55.040 Yeah.

00:27:55.340 I don't know my whole entire back, but you know, we'll save that for another episode and then we'll

00:27:58.380 go into that story because it's, that's for the only fans.

00:28:01.040 So subscribe now, like, and subscribe was about to be a plug talk in here.

00:28:08.940 No, no, no.

00:28:10.440 Yeah.

00:28:10.800 So I don't know what I want on my body yet, but I definitely do want, you should get a

00:28:14.140 lobster claw across your chest.

00:28:15.420 Like boom, boom from nipple to nipple on the back.

00:28:19.400 It says I bite.

00:28:20.920 Yeah.

00:28:21.300 And then just like clamping around one nipple and let everybody know, man.

00:28:25.200 It's just, if you lactate, it gets weird.

00:28:27.640 That'd be weird.

00:28:27.940 I got it.

00:28:28.380 I got to figure out how to stop lactating.

00:28:30.140 Yeah.

00:28:30.320 But it's, it's, it's the, it's the control of estrogen through a, through a strong feministic

00:28:37.800 presence.

00:28:38.180 I think where it's a lot of men are down in a sort of way for not being in touch with

00:28:42.160 things that you should, you ought to know better, right?

00:28:44.420 How dare you not be as sensitive as I need you to be, as you should be down to the point.

00:28:50.040 If I could bring this out down to the point, I actually dated this person hyper liberal.

00:28:53.300 I mean, what a, what a mistake.

00:28:54.780 And is, uh, I mean, and I haven't, there's nothing against, um, what, what political party that

00:28:59.420 you want to follow, but I do find it, um, very disturbing when you're an extremist to

00:29:03.620 the point, again, when you're imposing your beliefs upon another person, right?

00:29:07.440 Free will, free choice in life.

00:29:08.720 So I don't think that it was appropriate that, um, I couldn't even say the word female.

00:29:14.080 Oh, wow.

00:29:15.000 And how long were you in that relationship?

00:29:16.680 As you can imagine, it was not very long.

00:29:18.680 And yes, it was, it was a whole mess.

00:29:21.080 Was the pussy good though?

00:29:22.820 Negative.

00:29:23.520 Really?

00:29:23.920 Usually somebody that like that extreme is crazy.

00:29:28.000 And usually crazy pussy is like, yeah, but, um, just, bro, it was like woke sex.

00:29:35.160 Like, I mean, that's the best I keep asking for consent.

00:29:37.800 Just like, like, I mean, it's just like, no, like, I mean, just, just things that, that

00:29:42.520 I, that I felt like are as borderline abuse.

00:29:45.800 I mean, to, to that point, to me asking me to, to perform on her.

00:29:49.560 And I'm like, I'm very uncomfortable with that.

00:29:51.560 Okay.

00:29:51.720 That's not necessary.

00:29:52.240 This show just changed.

00:29:52.820 I guess I don't know.

00:29:54.140 What did she ask you?

00:29:55.980 ADD is a hell of a disease.

00:29:57.520 So what did she ask you to do?

00:29:59.900 Like, oh my God, bro.

00:30:01.520 Um, no, I mean, hold on.

00:30:03.720 There's the, the stories will go on and on and on.

00:30:05.920 Um, all right.

00:30:06.740 We'll talk about this.

00:30:07.580 Yeah.

00:30:07.600 Another time.

00:30:08.300 That's a, that's a whole nother episode.

00:30:10.000 We spent a whole nother, a whole nother hour or two on that.

00:30:12.780 Okay.

00:30:13.020 So wait, let's go.

00:30:14.040 We'll backtrack again.

00:30:14.900 Yeah.

00:30:15.140 Uh, back up, back up the tattoos, the accepting of different ways of life, the religion.

00:30:20.620 Correct.

00:30:20.880 So, so yeah.

00:30:22.060 So that segues really good into how the Jehovah's Witness religion is with, um, how they, they

00:30:29.900 choose to associate with people, right?

00:30:31.760 Because they, they read in the Bible that, um, bad association spoils useful habits.

00:30:36.400 I wish I could remember the scripture, but I guess what really matters is that I remember

00:30:39.640 the word.

00:30:40.080 So you go by bad association spoils useful habits, right?

00:30:42.800 In the context that makes a lot of sense, right?

00:30:45.400 Um, obviously, you know, you tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are.

00:30:49.060 Right.

00:30:49.360 So in this essence though, I think it's, it's used in an extremist way where it's like anybody

00:30:55.460 that is not a Jehovah's Witness is not displaying their love for Jehovah and not displaying that

00:31:00.280 they have a love for, for the God that, that they worship and know him to be.

00:31:04.220 If you're not doing that, then you're just labeled as bad association.

00:31:07.460 No matter if you're a very moral, polite person, you're still bad association just for that

00:31:12.160 little fact there.

00:31:13.000 So you'll see that they're very to themselves, um, really in their groups and not all, not

00:31:17.880 all are like that.

00:31:18.740 Not all are like that.

00:31:19.420 Cause you can understand like not all families are like 100% Jehovah's Witness because you

00:31:22.940 have maybe parents that don't have children are Jehovah's Witnesses.

00:31:25.240 Are you really going to shun their children like that?

00:31:27.220 Right.

00:31:27.460 Some families do, some don't, some don't.

00:31:30.540 And that's what I mean by the extremism that is, that gets into like Scientology area.

00:31:36.420 Like I've seen some of those documentaries where they're kind of like excommunicating people

00:31:40.520 and they can't see their families and stuff.

00:31:42.660 It's right.

00:31:43.840 And there's actually, um, I, there is a, um, documentary on, um, ex Jehovah's Witnesses,

00:31:51.220 I guess you would call them, or ones that have been excommunicated or ones that just chose

00:31:54.240 to like walk away from it.

00:31:55.600 And some, I mean, it's definitely worth, um, watching if you're, if you're interested in

00:32:01.020 that kind of stuff, but, um, knowledge is power, man.

00:32:03.680 And just because you might not be so interested in it, just understanding the workings of people

00:32:07.460 or how some people operate, you know, you get to understand other things.

00:32:10.520 Things in life, um, that, that make a little bit more sense when doing the same exact research.

00:32:14.960 And that's why I tell anybody, I mean, whether or not you're Jehovah's Witness or you're,

00:32:17.840 you're Muslim or whatnot, like do your own research.

00:32:20.240 As a matter of fact, the Bible even tells you, it says, prove to yourselves what you

00:32:23.520 ought to believe through the Holy scriptures.

00:32:25.040 Right.

00:32:25.340 So, um, even, even according to God and his word, he is not satisfied with you just listening

00:32:31.260 to people.

00:32:31.760 He is, he is completely satisfied with you when you do, um, what's inculcating the truth into

00:32:37.680 your heart.

00:32:38.020 When you're doing that research for yourself and the research, it's not like just read

00:32:41.160 the Bible and that's the research.

00:32:42.300 No, like look into the history of it.

00:32:44.200 Look at what's going on.

00:32:45.140 Look at the original language and how it's been, the idea has been translated because

00:32:49.080 the language is going to vary greatly from English and get that idea.

00:32:53.460 And in doing so you'll understand, okay, this is what was going on exactly in that time

00:32:58.380 period.

00:32:58.640 Just like we talked about yesterday, um, with regards to tattoos and earrings, how originally

00:33:04.220 they were meant as a part of, of ownership, um, with, with a family and that would be their

00:33:10.240 worker.

00:33:10.520 And they called it not an earring, they called it an awl.

00:33:12.680 So I don't know if I'm saying it all, I feel, I feel like it's weird when I say it, but

00:33:15.600 a WL all that was pierced through the ear.

00:33:17.840 Right.

00:33:18.040 But now you wear earrings in your ears and it's ornamental.

00:33:21.100 Right.

00:33:21.300 So like, like progressively we have evolved in, in, in society socially, and that's what

00:33:29.580 we should be going by is things change and that's okay.

00:33:33.280 Right.

00:33:33.600 Everything is dynamic.

00:33:34.580 I mean, look, think of that.

00:33:35.620 Like, so that went from like slavery, the, the, the significance of an earring went from

00:33:40.380 slavery to a fashion statement.

00:33:42.600 And then the significance of something like a swastika went from, uh, the, the symbol of peace

00:33:48.160 to Nazism, Nazism.

00:33:51.520 So yeah, it's, things change.

00:33:53.100 And if you're not paying attention, you kind of just, you know, put your head in the sand.

00:33:56.480 The swastika is still used too on, on goods and items.

00:33:58.380 Go to like an Oriental store, like a, like an Asian food market or whatever.

00:34:01.680 And, um, I was seeing it on a lot of the, the, um, like for instance, like, like bag noodles

00:34:07.480 or something.

00:34:07.920 And then it would have a swastika on the back.

00:34:09.180 I'm like, yeah.

00:34:10.280 German made?

00:34:11.180 No.

00:34:11.420 In my intro, there's a, I have a Buddha and he has a swastika, I think on his pants.

00:34:16.280 Right.

00:34:16.600 It's because, yeah, it's just, these things are, as time goes on there, they get, uh,

00:34:20.820 co-opted, perverted, switched around the narrative around these things gets changed.

00:34:25.140 But if you put your head on the sand.

00:34:25.760 Just like the rainbow.

00:34:27.080 Just like the rainbow.

00:34:28.060 God damn it.

00:34:28.780 We're taking the rainbow back, man.

00:34:30.040 I'm still pissed off at that, man.

00:34:31.680 Such a, such a beautiful thing in the sky.

00:34:34.420 Yeah.

00:34:34.580 And what it represented was peace.

00:34:36.360 I mean, if, if you follow and study the Bible was, was a covenant between God and people

00:34:42.700 that he was, that God was, was never going to, his promise to his people that he was

00:34:48.240 never going to bring, um, the earth to an end by means of flooding it.

00:34:53.860 Yes.

00:34:54.140 And now it's all colors of life.

00:34:57.700 What do you think about the flood?

00:34:58.800 This is, I wasn't planning on going here, but what do you think?

00:35:01.360 I, I'm of the belief of like, we, we spoke about Nephilim, fallen angels and stuff like

00:35:05.660 that.

00:35:05.880 Right.

00:35:06.080 I'm of a belief that, uh, when God ended the, the world in a flood, it's because things

00:35:11.060 got so unmanageable here that, yeah.

00:35:14.180 And it wasn't just wickedness.

00:35:15.600 I think it was like, you know, God gave man dominion over earth, but then the fallen angels

00:35:20.580 came down, mated with the daughters of man, created Nephilim giants, all kinds of crazy

00:35:24.600 stuff.

00:35:24.900 I mean, just imagine a super huge person.

00:35:27.320 That person is the king of everybody.

00:35:29.620 So you can enslave all of humanity at, with just like a fallacy and bargain and a trick

00:35:35.180 and God, I think God saw it, said, you know what, this can't happen.

00:35:39.300 Send the flood.

00:35:40.420 Some of them got away and I think they still walk among us, but I think that that's what

00:35:44.580 the flood initially was for.

00:35:45.640 What do you, what do you think that was about?

00:35:48.500 Um, I think that it's like, it's like a background story battle between like what we talked about

00:35:54.880 yesterday, like the very first prophecy in the Bible where God said that my seed will

00:35:58.500 bruise you in the head and yours will bruise mine in the heel.

00:36:00.720 It's actually vice versa, but it's always like a, um, sort of like a, um,

00:36:05.180 a spiritual pissing match because I do believe that these Nephilim did bring knowledge.

00:36:11.680 I don't, I can't say technology, you know, I don't know.

00:36:13.700 I mean, it's very controversial, you know, what you believe is what you believe and what

00:36:17.120 evidence is there.

00:36:17.860 Just follow the facts.

00:36:19.000 Well, technology, when I say technology, I don't just mean like, like a physical device

00:36:24.260 that's like, has a little bit of metal and plastic.

00:36:26.320 Right.

00:36:26.720 Technology is like, like we were saying our brain, it's, it's like a wet technology or even

00:36:31.640 like people that practice like witchcraft or stuff like that.

00:36:35.980 I think that that's like alchemy.

00:36:38.100 Alchemy.

00:36:38.580 Yeah.

00:36:38.780 Magic is, is the technology.

00:36:40.480 The things that Jesus did when he's walking on water, I classify that as technology.

00:36:45.760 It's, it's a miracle because we don't have words to describe it or understand it.

00:36:48.780 Correct.

00:36:49.200 He understands it intimately.

00:36:50.520 That's why he was able to, you know, give somebody sight back or whatever miracle he's

00:36:55.680 doing.

00:36:55.840 Like, I think it's just a technology that we don't have words for, so we call it miracles

00:37:00.440 and this and that.

00:37:01.380 Correct.

00:37:01.560 But they understand it more intimately, especially like Lucifer and the fallen angels.

00:37:06.320 They know the ones and zeros of this world so they can manipulate these kinds of things.

00:37:10.700 For sure.

00:37:11.100 Yeah.

00:37:11.240 They had some dominion over the earth.

00:37:12.680 I mean, even Jesus called Satan the God of this system of things.

00:37:17.220 So there's, there's, there was some power that was allowed for a time according to the

00:37:21.620 Bible until they were cast out.

00:37:24.060 Really, I think I believe in revelation where it says that they were cast out of heaven and

00:37:26.900 they didn't have any place there.

00:37:27.920 And we know that they were able to go from heaven to earth because if you remember the

00:37:31.580 story of Job, um, the whole issue was that Satan came in amongst God's, God's court.

00:37:38.240 And he, um, he propositioned God and said, Job is only worshiping you because you give

00:37:44.560 him everything that he wants.

00:37:45.600 So fucking take everything away from him.

00:37:48.340 And I bet you he's going to curse you to your very face.

00:37:50.320 And God's like, I know that he's not right.

00:37:52.460 And he said, you can touch him down to his very bones.

00:37:55.400 Only his life.

00:37:56.420 You may not take him.

00:37:57.480 What happened?

00:37:57.880 You read the story, right?

00:37:58.680 And Job was, was suffering for some time, but we, but the whole gist of that is that,

00:38:04.440 that he, he was at a time allowed back and forth into these different realms or dimensions

00:38:10.120 or, or heavenly States where he was able to approach.

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00:39:42.680 ...got at that time until we read in Revelation written that they were cast down to the earth

00:39:47.140 and that things would be getting much worse here on earth.

00:39:50.060 It's been completely cut off from God and that just makes it more spiteful.

00:39:52.580 Correct, correct, correct.

00:39:53.860 You know, I always hated that story, Job.

00:39:56.080 I guess as I get older, I sort of understand it now, but it just seems like, like you said,

00:40:01.900 like a spiritual pissing contest where it's just like some dude, and he's like, that's my dude.

00:40:05.880 He's my best dude, Job.

00:40:07.440 Like, believe me, he'll never curse me.

00:40:09.460 And he's like, well, let me try him.

00:40:10.540 And he's like, yeah, go ahead.

00:40:11.340 And he just kills his kids, his wife, his livestock.

00:40:14.000 He just messes up his whole life, but it was like, and then at the end, I'm like, I'm reading

00:40:17.780 and I'm like, oh, but you gave him a better wife?

00:40:20.060 I was like, oh, but I like my wife.

00:40:22.180 You gave him better kids?

00:40:23.060 Like, my kids were cool.

00:40:24.680 You gave him better ones?

00:40:25.400 I was like, I kind of wanted my old shitty kids.

00:40:27.680 But that's also like, you know, this is, we were also saying like, God's way of thinking

00:40:32.300 is something like we can never understand anyway.

00:40:34.960 It's not for us to understand.

00:40:36.680 Correct.

00:40:37.040 Just know that it's, that it's there.

00:40:39.220 And it's like respect that we respect the law of the wind, right?

00:40:41.900 You can't see it.

00:40:42.620 You can feel it.

00:40:43.140 But you know that if there's too much of it, you respect it.

00:40:45.160 You're not going to go out and try to fly a kite or, or hang out your clothes to dry on

00:40:49.240 a laundry line or something like that, or do any activity that's going to cause, you

00:40:53.180 know, major debris to come and impale you.

00:40:55.460 So it's knowing, knowing of it and respecting it in its proper space, just like you would

00:41:00.840 any, any element.

00:41:02.320 And it can be, I believe, harmful in a sense where you overanalyze and then you start personifying

00:41:09.100 God when God is not a person in particular, because he's not a physical being, but his

00:41:13.340 name itself, that Yahweh, that Y-H-W-H, those tetragrammaton letters meant he causes to become.

00:41:20.120 And it's so open-ended.

00:41:22.820 So literally just, it's like fill in the blanket.

00:41:25.560 He causes to become what?

00:41:26.800 Anything that he needs to be.

00:41:29.180 And I say he, I mean, there's no gender associated with it, but in, in the text of, of translating

00:41:37.060 tetragrammaton or Sanskrit to Latin, you have to understand we use feminine and masculine

00:41:42.760 things.

00:41:43.660 So they've just chosen to use the word he, just because man was, was created by God first.

00:41:48.480 And in the masculine, it just pronounces more, attributes, more, more power to him in that

00:41:54.660 sense.

00:41:55.280 In our brains.

00:41:56.560 Yeah.

00:41:56.840 Right.

00:41:57.020 Because that's what we, we understand.

00:41:58.280 But that's the limit of what we understand because we can't say it causes to become,

00:42:01.580 and like it, but then we're like, so is it a physical object?

00:42:04.760 Like, so it's the most appropriate, I guess, in, it translated from Latin would have been

00:42:08.940 the, the, using the O or saying he.

00:42:12.480 Um, he, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:15.360 All right.

00:42:15.780 Yeah.

00:42:15.900 That makes, it does make a lot more sense.

00:42:17.640 So like you were saying in this religion, because you did touch on this before also,

00:42:22.280 um, when they kind of personify this omnipotent being, they put them into a box and this is

00:42:29.880 what it seems like this religion does to people and, and even to God, which is probably a misstep

00:42:35.800 on their part.

00:42:36.220 So what, what happened with that?

00:42:39.660 Um, I think it, it, it's all about interpretation of, of what they believe it means.

00:42:46.880 Like what, what they believe something means.

00:42:48.500 Like for instance, the birthday, right?

00:42:51.200 And the Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate birthdays.

00:42:52.840 And they believe that it is without it saying it in the Bible, that the only two birthdays

00:42:58.560 that are mentioned in the Bible, one being, um, King Herod, uh, that had, was a King Herod

00:43:04.560 that had John the baptizer's head cut off as a gift to one of the concubines.

00:43:08.120 So, um, and then there was another one for, for either the Pharaoh or somebody.

00:43:13.200 And I apologize, Nebuchadnezzar, where there was a lot of, um, witchcraft and spiritism

00:43:18.140 that was performed.

00:43:18.600 So they say, Hey, birthdays are looked at in a bad light in the Bible.

00:43:23.120 So this must mean that we shouldn't celebrate birthdays.

00:43:26.860 Right.

00:43:27.300 And it just, it doesn't make sense to me because, um, and then it's graduated from, okay, it's

00:43:32.820 put in a bad light in the Bible, but now we understand why birthdays are so bad and we

00:43:36.500 shouldn't celebrate them because then it's like, it's narcissistic.

00:43:38.880 It's, it's all about me and it's, it's vanity and vanity is, is a sin.

00:43:43.500 And we shouldn't, shouldn't do anything in vain.

00:43:45.620 And like, it'd be all about me.

00:43:47.180 But the question is, then why celebrate accomplishments that are honed in on one person or a group of

00:43:53.100 people?

00:43:53.400 Isn't it the same exact concept?

00:43:55.320 Because it's like, this is your day, correct?

00:43:57.940 Whether or not it was, you were born or you've accomplished something big.

00:44:01.300 I think it all should be celebrated.

00:44:03.400 Life is something to celebrate.

00:44:05.020 And even God celebrated himself and recognize, okay, I need to take rest, which they, they

00:44:08.660 considered the Sabbath, but it was an enjoying fact to it.

00:44:12.380 And I'm sure that when God created Adam, that in his own way, maybe we'll never understand

00:44:17.140 or we'll never read about it.

00:44:18.300 Or maybe it hasn't been found yet that he celebrated in some sort of way for his creation.

00:44:23.080 Cause it's a nice, when you create something, whether I create a video or you create a picture

00:44:26.180 and you stand back and look at it and you just, you obsess over it.

00:44:29.360 And I think that's a God given quality is that we're to be proud of our work.

00:44:33.240 So as a parent, you're proud of what you created and what you are instilling in your

00:44:37.700 child and you celebrate birthdays and you do what you can to make them feel special.

00:44:41.600 Now there is tradition involved in gift giving and candle blowing and stuff, but we've turned

00:44:46.680 for what these original things were meant for.

00:44:49.680 And we said, it's just special and that's okay.

00:44:52.400 You said, this is just something special.

00:44:53.700 We like to eat cake, right?

00:44:55.080 But you didn't think when you're blowing out the candles on a birthday cake that you

00:44:57.660 were wishing away bad spirits or you were doing that for good luck, or you're doing

00:45:01.460 that to scare away demons or anything like that.

00:45:03.500 But these are the roots.

00:45:04.600 Is that what the symbology of that is for?

00:45:06.220 There's, we would have to research it, but I believe to the best of my knowledge that

00:45:11.480 that is part of the symbolism of the birthday cakes.

00:45:15.580 There's a lot of pagan symbology in this.

00:45:18.020 There is a lot of pagan symbology.

00:45:19.720 The Christmas tree, all kinds of stuff like that.

00:45:21.420 The Christmas tree, Santa Claus is actually finished and the whole Christmas tree thing

00:45:25.180 is a Scandinavian tradition because they're evergreens.

00:45:27.620 So they believe that these trees were divine in some respect.

00:45:30.800 And if they attribute it by bringing one of these evergreens into their home and they're

00:45:35.320 decorating it, the decorations represent crops, right?

00:45:38.780 And it's to bless like after the winter solstice that they would be able to bear a lot of crops

00:45:45.420 once the spring came and hopefully it came in early.

00:45:48.000 So there's a lot of tradition involved in that.

00:45:49.420 But what do we do is say, hey, I really like decorating a tree and there's nothing wrong

00:45:54.020 and decorate what you want, do what you want with it.

00:45:56.180 And you're not doing it to worship a tree.

00:45:58.380 You're not doing it for any spiritistic symbolism or anything.

00:46:02.920 You're just doing it because it is enjoyable.

00:46:05.200 Gathering with your family, decorating a tree, opening presents, eating together.

00:46:09.700 It's the intentionality of what you're doing.

00:46:12.360 Exactly.

00:46:12.620 So I believe in what your intent is when you're doing something defines why you're doing it.

00:46:19.320 The same thing with Halloween.

00:46:20.800 Samhain is the actual name for Halloween and it's Druid tradition.

00:46:24.500 And that was very demonic.

00:46:26.680 But what do we do, right?

00:46:27.740 You like, we like dressing up in costumes and stuff, but it's the day of the dead, right?

00:46:31.860 But how many people do you actually see dressing up as something dead?

00:46:35.300 No, they're either Pikachu or some Pokemon or something fun or a Ninja Turtle, whatever.

00:46:39.500 And even the people that do, it does get tricky though because I feel like with something like that,

00:46:45.240 you might be flirting with a little, you're touching something that maybe you should be careful with.

00:46:53.100 People that take it a little too seriously, like they like to dress up and do all this stuff.

00:46:57.100 They're not doing it for that reason, but I feel like, all right, there is a little caution here.

00:47:00.600 Let's be sensible about this.

00:47:03.960 But partaking in it, my kids will dress up too.

00:47:06.640 But I do understand that part of it.

00:47:08.100 It's just, I know the intentionality of what we're doing here is like, they're just getting candy.

00:47:11.800 You know, they're like being social.

00:47:13.700 This is a cultural thing.

00:47:15.420 Right.

00:47:15.840 And this is what we're doing.

00:47:18.400 But like, well, with a lot of religions or religious people, there isn't much nuance.

00:47:24.200 It's black and white.

00:47:26.100 Yeah.

00:47:26.220 And for me, I know as like a, just like a, a Pentecostal Christian, it pushed me away from the church because everybody is so black and white.

00:47:34.640 But God created a world that is like so magnificent and full of color.

00:47:40.300 And it's like, and you just want me to see this black and white.

00:47:43.120 There's so much other stuff in the middle.

00:47:44.820 Sure, it can get me in trouble.

00:47:46.100 Right.

00:47:46.400 But I, like, we, we kind of have to like look at it a little bit.

00:47:50.060 Like, give us, give us the tools that we need to look at this, at this world and not be fooled or like pulled into a direction.

00:47:57.320 But don't put, put me in a corner where I can't, where I, I'm, I'm forbidden to explore this.

00:48:03.440 Because guess what?

00:48:04.500 Right.

00:48:04.740 We live in it and it's going to pop up sooner or later.

00:48:07.980 So yeah, they've, the church in general probably has done a poor job of that, but I can only imagine how like they feel like the elders of any of these churches feel trying to navigate this.

00:48:20.280 Like, would they, would they feel guilt if they, if they like sent somebody out and lost them?

00:48:24.860 You know what I mean?

00:48:25.420 Navigating it like they have all the answers.

00:48:27.220 And I think that's where the big failure is, is just realize you don't have all the answers and you can be wrong.

00:48:31.560 You can be, um, absolutely wrong.

00:48:35.460 And unfortunately, you know, when you believe that you're doing everything in your power to worship God, you're really seeking the approval of man.

00:48:42.520 Because how do you know that your relationship with God is strong, right?

00:48:45.000 We say it's how I feel about God, right?

00:48:46.860 But if somebody tells you like, you know, you should consider X, Y, and Z that you do, like you're watching movies that are demonic or you're listening to music that's questionable.

00:48:55.460 Where, where's the line really drawn when it, when it comes to that?

00:48:59.180 Um, and they just personified so much that it becomes, um, a way to people please.

00:49:05.620 So now if the elders are happy, right?

00:49:07.100 You go to your church, right?

00:49:07.820 And everybody's like into you and they say, Hey, oh yeah, that's, that's, that's Daniel.

00:49:12.100 Yeah.

00:49:12.300 Oh, he's so good.

00:49:13.180 He's spiritual, this and that.

00:49:14.220 Like, but you knew that beforehand, but we as, as human beings, we appreciate the, uh, the adulation of the people telling us that we're doing good.

00:49:23.440 Cause it's like reaffirmation, right?

00:49:26.000 So it becomes like a boy scout thing where you get like more badges and you move.

00:49:29.780 Correct.

00:49:30.300 Yeah.

00:49:30.640 Correct.

00:49:31.080 Like, and exactly.

00:49:32.600 And then you become more involved in your church and, and then you climb the, the spiritual ladder, so to speak.

00:49:37.860 And really it is just, you're assuming more responsibility roles.

00:49:41.120 Um, I mean, with the, that's at least how it goes with the Jehovah's Witness religion.

00:49:45.640 Um, and I'm not too sure, uh, about the other ones, how, how you go about it.

00:49:49.960 Um, but yeah, it's the other, you know, other Christianity is very similar to that, but I think the organized structure and like the, um, the responsibility that you were describing that was kind of like on your shoulders, um, as a Jehovah's Witness is way more.

00:50:07.920 Or it's a lot more pressure for the, than, than what I've experienced.

00:50:11.760 And what I experienced, I was like, you can hold that.

00:50:14.320 I don't, I don't want it.

00:50:15.620 I just, I got out of there real quick.

00:50:17.140 So I don't know.

00:50:18.360 Good on you for even state.

00:50:19.880 How did, how did, how did all this play out?

00:50:21.820 You got like kicked out or you left?

00:50:24.080 What happened here?

00:50:25.660 No, I, um, I just disassociated myself, um, from it.

00:50:31.300 And I did do it kind of in a, in a public sense where I let some people know that we're elders in the congregation that I'm just not associated with it.

00:50:40.580 And unfortunately it came about, um, like we talked about yesterday with one person trying to assume, um, some sort of spiritual governing over me because he, he is, or was an elder.

00:50:51.860 And I don't know, um, exactly what he is right now.

00:50:54.700 Cause it's been so long, but, um, to call me personally on the phone and ask me such a personal question regarding, you know, who I was dating because he recognized me before I used to play soccer with him actually a lot.

00:51:07.340 So I saw him quite regularly.

00:51:09.180 And then obviously when we go to conventions, like every summer, there would be a, um, a district convention, um, or assembly, and it would be a three day event.

00:51:18.000 I would see him there.

00:51:18.760 We all have responsibilities, but he hadn't seen me in some time.

00:51:21.420 So he felt when he found out information through old coworkers for, for an old place that I used to work at, that I was dating somebody that wasn't Joe's witness.

00:51:29.480 He assumed it upon himself to take that role and think that he had some sort of governance over me to tell me that it's wrong or whatever.

00:51:35.900 And I really did let him know that it was none of his business.

00:51:40.960 What is happening in my life?

00:51:42.260 And that he ought to concern himself with his own.

00:51:44.440 Could you say what you said?

00:51:45.620 So he said, he said, Nick, you know, um, after all the small bullshit banter and fakeness, um, that I can read right through because there's no reason why he should have even had my number to call me and ask me, is it true that you're dating somebody that's worldly?

00:52:01.660 It reminds me.

00:52:02.680 Worldly is what they use.

00:52:03.620 Are you dating somebody that's worldly?

00:52:05.440 This reminds me of like the small bullshit banter.

00:52:07.900 Like if you've watched John Wick, where whenever he goes up and, uh, he meets another assassin that's in that world, they're like, Hey John.

00:52:15.000 And he's like, Hey Steve.

00:52:16.860 And there's like this weird bullshit banter, but it's like in the end, like, I know what you're here for.

00:52:21.220 So like, let's just, and then they start shooting at each other.

00:52:24.180 Cut to the chase, man.

00:52:25.500 It's a waste of my time.

00:52:26.640 It's a waste of my energy.

00:52:27.460 But, um, I, I asked him, I said, I'll answer your question if you'll answer one of my questions.

00:52:32.640 And he's like, okay.

00:52:34.420 And I said, do you eat your wife's pussy?

00:52:37.540 Do you eat your wife's pussy?

00:52:38.800 And he felt, he felt very, he felt very taken back by it.

00:52:43.120 Um, but it was meant to, to, to portray him that him asking me that question was just as extreme as me asking him that question.

00:52:50.880 And it wasn't a means to be disrespectful, but matching the level of his disrespect.

00:52:55.200 Sure.

00:52:55.520 And, um, you know, that's vulgar where I said, no, I said, that's a personal question.

00:53:00.180 Isn't that?

00:53:00.600 And I said, it's none of my business and neither do I want to know, but it's none of your business.

00:53:04.720 What the fuck I'm doing in my life.

00:53:06.220 I want to know now.

00:53:07.300 What do you think he does?

00:53:08.220 Yes or no?

00:53:09.380 Probably.

00:53:09.820 Right.

00:53:10.560 No, he has a face.

00:53:11.780 Like he sucks dick.

00:53:12.760 So damn cold blooded, absolutely cold blooded.

00:53:17.880 I have no respect.

00:53:18.740 I match people's level, a level of respect.

00:53:20.860 And that one was uncalled for.

00:53:22.300 I was at a lot of peace and, um, and he just tried to put that bad energy on me.

00:53:28.300 So I had to deflect it off, man.

00:53:30.120 Yeah.

00:53:30.640 On a weaponized level.

00:53:32.020 So from, from there, after that, you, you kind of went and you disassociated completely.

00:53:36.900 I disassociated completely.

00:53:38.080 I, I, I had, um, blocked him, but then I noticed that my phone was ringing off the hook from different elders that had either had gone to the congregation I was attending or some other ones or him.

00:53:48.800 He left me a message, um, apologizing at that time.

00:53:51.580 I heard about three seconds of it, but in my mind already, no, I don't need to convince myself of anything.

00:53:55.700 Like this is to me, this is an event that, that is, is a lesson for him.

00:53:59.820 And I'm not going to forgive it because this is the lesson he needs to learn.

00:54:02.380 I hope that this spreads to other elders or anybody who thinks that they have any, any stature, right?

00:54:10.760 There is no stature, right?

00:54:11.680 It's supposed to be, according to them, like, like the more you go up in, in the religion, as far as like get responsibilities, the lower you actually need to be.

00:54:19.380 Right.

00:54:19.680 So if you're an elder, you should be the one scrubbing the shit out of the toilets after the meetings.

00:54:23.260 You should be the one helping with the floors and everything.

00:54:25.920 You shouldn't be leaving early.

00:54:26.920 You should be taking that, that leadership role on, right?

00:54:29.800 Through demonstration, not by, by delegation.

00:54:33.060 And, um, and which, which most would, I would say like, um, you know, I'm not trying to down, um, the Jehovah's witnesses in that sense.

00:54:41.460 I'm only speaking about the, the extreme ideas that really detract from what the actual message of God is.

00:54:48.940 Well, that's the thing, what it is when you build a structure.

00:54:51.100 Cause like you kept mentioning, uh, their idea of like Jesus is going to come back and with his government.

00:54:58.060 Correct.

00:54:58.600 Yeah.

00:54:58.760 So it's like a very like governmental structure, but with that kind of structure, just like the regular government, um, it's, you give it, once you give people a little bit of power, they're going to, they're going to abuse it.

00:55:09.180 They're going to assume what they can do.

00:55:10.600 And it's like, it's just a natural thing for people to follow.

00:55:13.580 It happens in almost every church, but yeah.

00:55:16.380 Uh, you told me another story about, about a girl that, uh, like kind of disturbing because like it, this, this really goes like the way this religion is, is that it's so personal in, in your family life and in what you're doing that it, it could be harmful.

00:55:33.160 Right. And you are taught in that religion that if you don't, don't, um, respectfully conform to what, what God's law is in the Bible and you, you decide to not worship God, that you're choosing essentially death.

00:55:46.760 That you would eventually, when Armageddon did come, if you live during that time, that you would be part of what others would consider the rapture or this one is like that God is going to destroy all wickedness and you just be part of those wicked people.

00:55:58.920 So that's like the end of your life. So a lot of these people that get excommunicated or disfellowshipped as they like to say, um, from, from the Joe's witness, um, kingdom halls, uh, which is their temple, their church that you would.

00:56:11.840 Um, I just lost my train of thought and I apologize, but, um, essentially that you would be, that you, you, you, you chose death, you chose death.

00:56:18.880 And if you were taught this from youth, man, it's all that, you know, you're going to believe it.

00:56:24.180 And I have many, um, many friends that, that have either, you know, they left, um, by choice or they were excommunicated that are suffering from real emotional trauma, real, you know, real bad trauma where it's like, it's shaped their personality.

00:56:39.900 You can even see in their face, you know, when somebody is like super depressed or they've got something really bad going on, they kind of look like they've been doing a bunch of drugs.

00:56:45.520 It's either a, they've been doing a bunch of drugs or B that that's how messed up their mind is from that whole event.

00:56:51.320 And still to this day, I can call any one of these friends and they'll say like, that's what they feel and believe because that's what they've been taught.

00:56:57.260 Well, that's how we opened up this conversation about, uh, um, psychedelics, but there's a, there's a huge overlap between psychedelics and spirituality.

00:57:05.740 So, you know, yeah, you can abuse psychedelics and possibly go down a, like a crazy rabbit, especially if you're just doing it, uh, for fun, recreation to have a good time.

00:57:14.860 You could really lose yourself and it'll be evident in your face, but spiritually, if you're, if you're like, maybe not beaten down, but like, it's like almost like they've had the rug pulled out from them spiritually.

00:57:25.440 And it's like, they're completely full and it's almost, it's almost the same thing.

00:57:29.880 Right. That's a good analogy. Yeah. It's pulled out from under them for sure. And that's exactly what you see, um, with these people.

00:57:37.060 Um, but it has, has messed them up to that point. And that story, how it goes is, you know, had, had a couple of friends and in our youth, you know, um, I was in a band, right?

00:57:49.000 So I was playing good times band. It was with four other people. And, um, the singer of the band, um, was dating, um, this girl named Candy and that is her actual name.

00:58:00.940 And I don't remember her last name, but, um, that's her. Yeah. That's not sure. Her actual name. See, her parents, her parents set her up for this shit.

00:58:07.720 Yeah. But, um, you know, in the Joseph's Witness religion, chastity is a, is a really big deal. And, um, waiting to have sex, um, after you're married is, is key. And if you do fornicate before marriage and it was discovered, um, it was brought before the elders and then they would put you before what they call a judicial committee and they would decide, you know, how many people know about this?

00:58:33.700 Is this going to be, um, if people find out about it, will it influence them and think, and will people think that it's okay? They could do the same thing and nothing bad is going to happen. And they'll make a decision collectively as a body of elders. If, um, you should be excommunicated, disfellowship, or you should be privately reproved, which is like, Hey, you know, you, if you have responsibilities, we're not going to let you know this. You can't help God anymore. Right. You can't do anything for, for the kingdom hall. So, so don't worry about cleaning or anything. Right. So now they're hindering you from, from your lovey

00:59:03.700 want to display for God. Doesn't matter if you can talk to somebody or not, you're excommunicated, like to, to show, I think that would show more that you're repentant of your sins than anything else. Like, let's see how hard you're going to work. But no, like sit in silence. You, you, you should be making meetings as many meetings as possible. And we'll decide if you're sorry or not by the time. And it's not like you, you can, you can choose. It's been a week. I'm like, I am really, really sorry. You submit a letter. And then most of the time it, they're not going to reinstate you as a Jehovah's Witness. They're going to tell you like, no, it's been too short of a time.

00:59:33.600 So we don't know if you're really sorry. Right. That, so who is it that you're trying to please and show that you're sorry to at this point? Man or guy? Yeah. Right. But let me tell you right now, uh, where they got it from is in the first book of Corinthians where, um, who wrote Corinthians? Paul? Yeah. So Paul wrote about that. There was a man that was going to, to, um, the, the temple. And, um, everybody in the temple knew that this man was sleeping with another man's wife. It was known. Right. But they tolerated it.

01:00:03.600 And throw him to Satan. Cast him, cast him away to Satan. So that way the whole congregation might not get swallowed up by the influence essentially. Um, it's a really good summary of it actually. And so they removed the man, right? They excommunicated him in some sort of way. Right. But we find in second Corinthians that Paul says, bring this man back in. So that way he's not swallowed up by his sadness.

01:00:27.600 Yeah. But there has to be a road to, this is like, you know, you dabble in like current culture and stuff like this with cancel culture. Oh, what else? Like what the left does a lot. I know this sounds like just washed up talking points, but they do, they'll cancel somebody and there's no road to redemption. Right. And that's not, you can't do that to people because then where do they go? Like you said, they are, they, they just, they just wallow down into the pit of hell where I mean, or, or end up in the worst places. Right. You have to, if you're going to have this,

01:00:57.600 kind of structure where we are going to give somebody a timeout because sometimes people get fucked up, you know, they do crazy shit. You got to have a way to bring them back into the fold and it can't just be arbitrary. Can't be like, write a letter and some guy will see it. And this guy is also doing his dirt. Like you were talking about some of these other people that are, you knew we're doing dirt, but they're still judging others. Right. Yeah. That's a, yeah. And that was that back to that original story with this guy and this girl that, this guy named Eric that was dating this girl named Candy.

01:01:27.600 you know, you're not supposed to have sex. And guess what? They were hakey paking. Right. And they were in, um, they were in Eric's house and the father is an elder and, and his congregation. And I guess they, they were supposed to be gone, but then they ended up walking in and finding out that, yeah, they were having sex. Right. They found out. So obviously now you, you know, get getting the elders involved because there had been fornication that was witnessed. And he talked about it. So Eric did not get this fellowship.

01:01:54.060 Isn't it bad enough? Your dad catches you just fucking. Yeah. Getting him pussy. Yeah. That's just, that's embarrassment enough. Like. Absolutely. Absolutely. But then it became, since it was something known, you know, now they, they felt forced to go to the elders. They talked to him about it. So the gist of it was that he got privately reproved and she got disfellowshipped. Right. So, um,

01:02:16.060 well, she bit the apple. She did it first. I mean,

01:02:19.460 I guess you're not a good influence for my son. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Um, but, um, she ended up killing

01:02:28.040 herself. I think a year later she, she killed herself. She was still disfellowshipped and she ended up killing

01:02:34.520 herself. And I heard about it. Um, secondhand through a mutual friend that we all used to hang out to

01:02:40.120 with each other. And I'm like, damn. And what do you think killed her?

01:02:45.760 Uh, I would assume she probably drugs overdose. No, no, no. She, um, I, I don't, I don't recall

01:02:51.920 what it was. I think it was overdose, honestly. Um, on pain medicine. Um, but what, what killed her?

01:02:58.860 What was the, what was the, what was the, um, what was the straw that broke the camel's back? And I think

01:03:04.660 it's because of this, well, I don't want to say, I think it's because, I mean, everybody has their own

01:03:08.580 issues and levels of depression or whatever, but it certainly doesn't help when the depressive

01:03:13.360 influence of nobody talks to me now, my own family doesn't even want to talk to me. I feel

01:03:18.600 useless. I know I'm going to die for what I did. Right. What aren't those factors and why people,

01:03:24.860 when you lose all hope and you actually perform it, there, there, there has to be a cause and effect.

01:03:31.900 There are factors that, that are involved in that. And we pray that nobody does that. Um, but

01:03:36.300 it happened and is very eyeopening because this is exactly what that religion does to people.

01:03:43.060 Then you are so involved and you feel like that you have no hope for yourself anymore.

01:03:48.800 And I'm not saying that everybody wants to kill themselves, but it traumatizes your life.

01:03:53.500 And, and it had in some effect when, when I had gotten disfellowshipped at one point,

01:03:57.100 um, it had traumatized me severely. I lost everybody. I lost everything. Nobody would talk to me,

01:04:01.680 nothing. Um, and then I had came back, but I, as I was drawing closer to God in my own respect,

01:04:08.940 I started learning things that I was trying to prove to myself what I ought to believe. Right.

01:04:12.700 I don't care what you say. I want to fucking hear what the Bible says, what it says in here to me.

01:04:16.940 And I was like, you know what, there's something very, very wrong. And I did the right thing and

01:04:20.820 did my research and then I stood up for it. And here I am a swamp guy in the city eating wild game

01:04:28.880 and coming to your local place to kill all your rabbits for you. Oh yeah, man. This guy is fast

01:04:34.540 food. That's free fast food, man. You killed fast food. Every rabbit in his yard, every rabbit on my

01:04:39.420 property. Um, my God, how delicious cottontail rabbits are. I'm just telling you what a, what a

01:04:45.400 beautiful natural flavor. But it, man, it is such an interesting, what an interesting dynamic that is

01:04:52.060 though. So like, because I have experienced it, but, but obviously the structure around the religion

01:04:57.200 that I was in, wasn't like I was excommunicated from everybody because it, it was, you know, uh,

01:05:02.780 Pentecostal Christianity is still very, it's like an open pool people coming in and out. Yeah. That's,

01:05:07.780 that's like a closed house. So you're in that house. And when you're kicked out of the house,

01:05:12.200 it probably could feel very lonely. Your entire family is also Jehovah's witness or

01:05:15.800 no, no, no, no. It was my parents. Um, was Lily as well? No, no, she was there for a little bit,

01:05:22.960 but she got turned off because of some sister in the congregation there. Apparently something

01:05:29.980 happened on a personal level and she didn't like it. And she just stopped altogether. She was like

01:05:34.780 coming with, with her, with her husband and her kids for, for a short time. But, um, again,

01:05:39.800 and it was, it was more than likely from some extremist viewpoint that was being portrayed by

01:05:44.800 this other person who was supposed to be her sister in the church. And, um, it just turned her off and

01:05:50.140 really see through it. I think one of the things that our family has is, uh, a good, uh, spirit of

01:05:55.820 discernment. So like we can be in something for a while, but, um, something inside it, like Lily definitely

01:06:02.540 has this, she has this, I don't know much about it, but she has like this kind of like spiritualness to

01:06:06.860 her. I'm pretty sure you get this weird feeling. And she was like, you know what? I'm just going

01:06:11.120 to get away. And, uh, I, I've had that feeling multiple times too. It's like, just like, like

01:06:15.900 a gut feeling. You feel something. Yeah. It's intuition and it is, it is a sixth sense in itself

01:06:21.360 and it's nothing psychic or spiritual. It's we're really good at reading the layout, reading body

01:06:27.220 language, looking at the mannerisms of how you're speaking. I mean, these are all like things that you

01:06:32.820 have to go to school for to be like, like a cross analyst for criminals, like in criminology. And

01:06:38.660 you know, like I love to binge on watching the criminology stuff too, because they'll explain

01:06:42.660 like this person is crossing our lakes. This indicates that they are super nervous and that

01:06:47.740 they recognize that a turd is poking out their butthole and they may have to take the shit real

01:06:51.540 soon, but we can all tell this because of the way he's talking and the way he's sitting. Now watch

01:06:55.880 he's guilty. He's guilty by shit. Yeah. It's, you know, not everything comes from a book, man.

01:07:02.660 Sometimes you've got to like, like soften up your pineal gland and like really just like,

01:07:08.040 like if, if you're trying to figure somebody out or what's going on in that situation, you kind of

01:07:11.660 just got to be open to listening and really feeling that and then understanding what that is.

01:07:16.720 I think a lot of people do. I think everybody has that. Right. Um, I think most people just don't

01:07:21.820 pay attention to it. Some people are better than others. Some people are stronger. Some people are just

01:07:25.360 blissfully unaware. Um, those are NPCs. Those are bots that are just among society. But yeah,

01:07:33.680 you, we definitely, it runs in the family where a lot of times you're right. And again, it's not

01:07:38.800 some sort of mystic psychic thing that you have. It's just, you pay attention. That's like saying

01:07:43.580 you have, you know, put your head on a swivel, you know, 360 degree view of everything that's going

01:07:47.500 on around you. If you pay attention, um, just as like, I mean, from a part of New Yorker that we were

01:07:51.880 from, you understood that very well from birth, you were taught how to pay attention always because

01:07:56.220 you could walk by a certain street corner and then you recognize that there's, there's some

01:08:00.400 shady people there and you don't know what their intentions are. And like my case, why I ended up

01:08:04.360 from New York to Florida, I was walking home in front of elementary school. I saw that these two

01:08:08.500 men were, were, were walking toward me. I tried crossing the street and you know, even a blind person

01:08:13.520 could see what they were up to end up having me at knife and gunpoint. And I was 14 years old.

01:08:20.160 Yeah. Yeah. I was 14 years old and he took my T-Mobile prepaid cell phone, my Blazers jersey and

01:08:24.880 my Jordans and then pistol with me. And I ended up in Florida eventually to finish school because

01:08:31.640 obviously my parents didn't feel safe, but it's, I read them. I was like, I know something's wrong

01:08:36.100 and it just pay attention. Like if you don't pay attention, then you would just walk right into it,

01:08:40.440 whatever it is. Sometimes it's unavoidable. Like there's been situations where they were like,

01:08:44.180 well, I guess we're here now and whatever happens. But yeah, there's a, you'd be surprised.

01:08:48.980 You probably wouldn't be surprised. There's a lot of people, even I think people from Florida

01:08:52.880 too, that aren't in this situation, but they wouldn't be able to diagnose this kind of a

01:08:56.140 social situation, especially when there's like that underlying threat. It's why, it's why I'm

01:09:01.020 so racist, but it's not, it's not racism. And it's not, it's not just like a certain color

01:09:06.380 of a person. You can tell when anybody is, is like, they're just moving weird or their,

01:09:11.740 their posture is a certain way. Right.

01:09:13.680 There's a physical thing, but then there's also a spiritual thing or something inside of me where

01:09:18.300 it's like, sometimes someone could be like looking a certain way and I'm like, nah, it's,

01:09:23.140 he's not about that.

01:09:24.560 But it's all, it's all in our genetic code, right? We're just animals as well. I mean,

01:09:28.220 think about it, right? You have a dog. I mean, now that, you know, we're, we both have farmland,

01:09:33.900 we know we have animals and you know, it doesn't take a genius to know that if a dog has his tail,

01:09:39.200 but it has his tail between his legs and he's got his ears pinned down that he means business.

01:09:43.120 He looks like he's going to act out in aggression, right? You're reading that body language of that

01:09:46.300 dog. So go ahead and pet that dog and see what it does to you. Right. So we do it as human beings

01:09:50.700 too. We do have body language and mannerisms where we're up to no fucking good. And when we are

01:09:56.640 being secretive or, or hiding something or don't want to say something or, or you're angry,

01:10:01.380 like, man, you seem angry to me or you're off today. Why do we say that? It's because like

01:10:05.080 instinctually as, as the, as a human being, as a, as a type of animal ourselves, we have

01:10:13.340 instinctual, um, deeper emotion and can tell these things within people. And we just, some

01:10:18.360 mis, misconstrued as, as, um, no, no, I don't know what you're talking about. And you're gaslighting

01:10:23.580 to thinking that you're crazy and it's not true. Like you're just very good at body language and

01:10:28.580 mannerisms and you know how to read it. I think that there is too, like, and you get

01:10:32.160 better and better. You get, yeah, there is like an aura, which is kind of brings me back

01:10:36.220 almost full circle to these religious types that put a restriction on God and what God

01:10:41.280 can do. But if God did create people and people are so sophisticated that I can give, I can give

01:10:47.760 you, I can make you feel awkward right now. If I really wanted to, I can just start doing

01:10:51.840 awkward shit and you would start acting awkward right back to me. Right. And anybody could see

01:10:56.280 the audience would be able to see it. I mean, you'd be able to feel it. Like, you just know,

01:10:59.060 like, I don't know about that. Like, yeah, even the audio listeners would just hear it

01:11:02.320 and they would be like, you would feel weird. It's such an amazing attribute that it's like,

01:11:06.740 now I'm going to go ahead and put a limit on what this, what this guy can do or what he's

01:11:11.180 capable of or, and put them in a box. It's, it's an insane way to think. Yeah. I just, I don't

01:11:15.960 know why it popped into my, but just like what, what is happening in Chicago, like how the

01:11:19.800 crime rate has skyrocketed. But, um, I forget who it was that is, um, their commissioner or the

01:11:25.640 governor, the lady looks like a beetle juice, a burnt beetle juice. Yeah. Um, yeah. And

01:11:31.260 you can tell she's saying, no crime rate is down. Right. But your face doesn't say crime

01:11:34.660 rate is down. Your face says you haven't slept in weeks cause crime rate is up. Yeah. And

01:11:38.580 right now they're probing your ass wondering what the fuck is going on and what are you

01:11:42.100 doing about it? But you're there gaslighting your own people, but anybody can see it.

01:11:46.160 Right. So if you just did a little paying attention, half the people can't, I mean, who's, whoever's

01:11:50.060 voting for them can't. So I guess, you know what? It's the fluoride in the drinking

01:11:53.700 water, man. It's the shit. It's some, it's some distraction. There's some distraction

01:11:57.660 full people into thinking that things are getting better. Right. Because you have, you

01:12:02.760 have elevated status in, in your society or in your community right there. So like they

01:12:06.780 must be right. Well, do your research for yourself. Look up. Those statistics are public

01:12:11.980 and you can do it all yourself. You just have to have the want and drive to. And if you don't,

01:12:16.160 if you're that person that, that is just satisfied with hearing something and believing it, I mean,

01:12:20.560 you're really stifling yourself and setting yourself up for major failure and disaster.

01:12:25.340 Yeah. I mean, this is like, you know, 1984 stuff. He's George Orwell was, you know, we've

01:12:29.240 always been at war with Eurasia. It was like, no, we weren't, but it was like, we always have.

01:12:32.820 And they're like, we always have been at war with Eurasia. It's just, it's just kind of

01:12:36.040 like a, I don't know, man, not people not trusting their, their intuition or just not

01:12:40.540 being in touch with, with not knowing exactly who they are and how they are supposed to

01:12:45.180 think, which is a, it's a shame. But so you know what? It's we're like over an hour and

01:12:51.780 Nick has to drive back. You're going to Okala. So you got it. You got a little way to go.

01:12:57.840 Before I let you out of here, I wanted to see if anyone in the spaces wanted a question,

01:13:03.060 but for sure, have you ever, one question for me, have you ever, cause you're out in

01:13:08.060 the woods in the middle of the night when you're doing the hog hunting, it's not, it's

01:13:10.980 not daytime. It's middle of night, right?

01:13:12.540 It depends what time of year, man. Cause it's fucking hot during the summer. So

01:13:15.880 generally, yeah, at night or super early in the morning and you pray that you're not out

01:13:20.680 in that heat. I mean, um, but that's why you do it. Yeah. You're like, you pick your poison. I

01:13:24.320 mean, you could catch hogs in the middle of the day, but your dogs are not going to last.

01:13:26.720 They're going to overheat, man. It's way too hot and they're running. And there's been many

01:13:29.420 times where dogs have, um, we've had to carry the dogs and we do carry a lot of medical

01:13:34.460 equipment with us as well, including honey. Like when the dog needs some sort of nourishment

01:13:38.520 right then and there, you look at their gums. If the gums are pale and they kind of look

01:13:41.660 like they're hype. Some sugar. Yeah. Yeah. So we just take, take honey from a jar and

01:13:45.780 then we just rub it into their gums like cocaine, right? And just swoosh it in there. And they

01:13:50.340 do perk up. It'll save a dog's life. So if you have animals and they are overheating, first

01:13:55.120 of all, obviously I hope everyone is, I know everyone is smart enough to know that you take

01:13:58.860 them into a shady spot or into the air condition or use water to help cool them down like a, like

01:14:03.440 a lukewarm rag or something. And, um, carry honey with you. And if you're somebody that's

01:14:07.900 very active and you're running your dog and, or if you're somebody that's one of those,

01:14:11.100 um, those mean people that, that own like super, super duper shaggy, shaggy haired dogs

01:14:17.900 like Huskies in Florida, which were meant for cold weather climate. Yeah. Yeah. You better

01:14:22.920 be prepared, man, cause this dog is going to fall out faster than you know. Pro tip, honey.

01:14:26.600 Yeah. Yeah. Honey and water. Um, anyway, listen to the question you you're out there in the

01:14:30.960 middle of the night. Yeah. Um, you had, you said you've never run into any cryptids. You're like,

01:14:35.680 what's a cryptid like Bigfoot or whatever the fuck they got in Florida. Right. You ever

01:14:39.240 seen anything creepy? Because I mean, you're out in native land. He's, he's picking up oranges

01:14:44.700 from like ancient Indians that were here years ago. Yeah. From something like an old Seminole

01:14:48.800 trail. Yeah. And it was native, native Florida oranges and lemons. They were both. So that's,

01:14:52.860 that's planted by them. And we don't know, it could have been, I think it were planted by

01:14:56.740 the Spaniards when they, when they came into Florida. So you're on, you're on this, this like

01:15:00.780 people aren't going here, you know, ever, do you ever, I'm sure you felt some weird stuff

01:15:05.500 or are you just more focused on the task? Like what, what, anything happened to you out

01:15:09.080 there? Well, I'll tell you down, down in, in Okeechobee where we hunt, I'm mainly task

01:15:14.160 oriented. Right. I mean, you find cool things. Um, over there, I've found a lot of spearheads,

01:15:19.340 right? No, that's, I didn't find any spearheads in Okeechobee, but I, I have a bunch of, um, shark

01:15:24.080 teeth and mind you, it's still the middle of the state. Right. And there's shark teeth,

01:15:28.280 like megalodon teeth. Sometimes we find, you find one of those super cool. I'll bring

01:15:31.720 some in next time. Um, cause they're definitely taking a worth look at. Saber tooths itself.

01:15:36.620 Um, yeah. And you're like, man, or like, like crocodile teeth, but the shark teeth is like,

01:15:41.640 like, man, sharks are actually here at one point and you find a lot and they're usually

01:15:44.800 black in color. You go to Peace River and people, that's what Peace River is known for. They find

01:15:49.660 megalodon teeth, tusks, they find Indian artifacts, arrowheads, I mean, all sorts of stuff. But

01:15:55.320 in North Florida, again, this area particularly, I found, um, I found, uh, arrowhead and I found

01:16:01.420 a spear tip. And when you talk about mystic, like in the, in the manner in which you find

01:16:05.240 it, cause a lot of, a lot of, um, even, even a lot of, um, native, um, tribal people will

01:16:11.540 tell you, like, if you collect an artifact, um, like we're not in those tribes. So for us,

01:16:16.820 we don't really care about it. Um, but to them to like, you don't know what that was used

01:16:20.900 for. And that's what I was told. Like it not, not so much with arrowheads. Cause I went

01:16:25.320 to, um, to like this alligator wrestling competition, but it was in the Seminole Reserve,

01:16:29.660 big Cypress. We're going to link to that. Uh, do you have that on YouTube? I have, I have

01:16:33.560 that video of the, uh, like a short video of alligator wrestling competition. And those

01:16:38.320 guys are super bad. And it's, it's on your YouTube already. It's yes. It's on my YouTube

01:16:42.560 already. Cause I saw the world on my Instagram. We're going to link to it. Yeah. It's, it's

01:16:45.760 fucking, it's retarded, but it's great. So you're awarded points on the most tricks that

01:16:50.620 you can do. And basically your tricks are what you can do without getting bit. And if

01:16:54.540 you get bit, that's the prize, you get bit, you're fucked. Like you're losing something,

01:17:00.780 but they have like a awesome team of people that are obviously alligator trappers and

01:17:04.340 handlers. And, and, um, we did come across one guy that he tried this trick, um, and he

01:17:09.660 knew it would help him win the competition, but he ended up getting his big toe bitten off.

01:17:12.640 And I have that one in 240 frames a second. And I slowed it down to 500 frames a second

01:17:17.400 and it takes like basically six seconds in which occurred and it stretches it out to

01:17:21.020 like two minutes. And you see where he fucked up the very water drop that touched the tongue

01:17:26.560 of the alligator and how it just went boom. And then he looked like, Hey, help. And by

01:17:31.220 the time he did that, it was only a second and a half minutes, I help. And they jumped

01:17:35.300 in like, like four seconds later, just to confirm he couldn't do anything. And then the

01:17:39.200 alligator started to roll and that's when they jump in and they all like surround and

01:17:42.140 jump on top of the gator. And unfortunately twisted this, this brave souls toe right

01:17:47.980 off. Um, he's lucky. He's just got his toe. Yeah. And I actually recently, um, communicated

01:17:52.800 with him and sent them the video. Um, he reached out to me cause I told one of his buddies,

01:17:58.280 like he ended up, um, he ended up septic from, from the alligator bite and spent some time

01:18:03.600 in the hospital. Um, but he, yeah, he reached out to me, asked me if I had any footage.

01:18:08.480 He said, this is what I have. And I sent them everything. He's like, man, that is bad

01:18:11.400 ass. Like how you caught that. Um, and you know, I'm just glad to have been in that place.

01:18:16.120 And, and, you know, I never posted that video, um, out of respect. Um, cause I did see that

01:18:22.060 video from when people had recorded with their phones and there's a lot of bad publicity about

01:18:27.480 it. Like, you know, um, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Motherfuckers. Listen, we're

01:18:31.720 in Florida, man. Live, live a little, do something extreme, do something like that guy. He won't

01:18:35.980 ever regret his life. I tell you that right now. Hell yeah. I mean, meanwhile, you can

01:18:39.620 sit in a shell and you'd be like, Oh, don't do that because it's not mainstream or the

01:18:42.620 norm. I'm telling you, fuck that. Live your life. Do shit. Run in the woods. Come hog hunting

01:18:47.560 with me. Go, go out, look at alligators, view wildlife, man. Like grow something that

01:18:52.340 you can eat and harvest yourself. Get some chickens, get some fresh, do something that you're going

01:18:56.900 to feel a little bit more fulfilled in life than to feel weird because you're like, Oh, I

01:19:00.560 don't, I don't think that people are going to accept this. Listen, this guy wrestled this alligator

01:19:03.800 and lost his toe. Fuck. Yeah. Fuck. That guy is so freaking awesome. I'll tell you what.

01:19:09.000 Um, I got nothing but respect for him and for the naysayers. I say, eat a dick, man.

01:19:13.600 You know what? Uh, this guy, Ronnie Coleman, you ever heard of that guy? Uh, right. He's

01:19:17.820 like the big black dude, a weightlifter. Yeah. I feel so bad because there's so much stuff

01:19:21.600 I'm going to talk about. Unfortunately, where I live right now, I'm still waiting on internet.

01:19:24.400 So like, I'm real stifled to like, when I go to work using that internet and tell

01:19:27.840 that we're going to do, we'll, we're going to do another episode, like, especially on

01:19:31.480 internet. I'll just send you a link and we can do this. Oh yeah, for sure. I'm sorry.

01:19:34.820 So I'll have, I'll have, um, I'll have my fiber optic set up showing us some shit. I'll

01:19:40.240 have my whole studio set up as well and get right back into him. I fell off the wagon

01:19:44.200 a little bit with getting the new house and stuff, but it is time. I was going to say the

01:19:48.800 guy, Ronnie Coleman, he's like, you know, big steroid user. I think like Mr. Olympia multiple

01:19:52.840 times. Right. And now he's like basically on those crutches with the arms and he's like,

01:19:56.800 his legs are fucked. I probably recognize him because I used to be into that, that shit too at one

01:20:00.680 time, man. Just for, for, you know, my job, I was trying to be as strong as possible and

01:20:04.560 got into the steroid world. And I'll tell you right now, it's, you're literally a human science

01:20:08.840 experiment. If you want to do it right, you need that expensive as a lot of money. You

01:20:12.660 need to, whatever the rocks on. Yeah. And you need to, whatever the rocks on. I mean,

01:20:16.560 unfortunately that's genetics and steroids. I mean, he's just genetically in his Samoans,

01:20:20.740 man. They're, they're big, big, beautiful people, man. He'd be six foot seven, 250 pounds

01:20:25.360 without steroids. The steroids just help him like maintain his crazy physique. And so I say people

01:20:29.500 that have the genetics already and they do it like you just become, you know, but for

01:20:33.420 the others that try to do it, like the best you can expect is I'll look healthier. Yeah.

01:20:37.340 I mean, so I'm sad. This guy said, this guy said, I'll look, yeah, you look, you look a

01:20:40.680 little better. He said, uh, they're like, do you regret it at all? Cause he's kind of

01:20:44.520 like walking around with these, these crutches on his back. So he says he lives in pain all

01:20:48.360 the time. And he was like, he says, you know, he's in pain. And sometimes he's like, maybe

01:20:51.960 I kind of, kind of regret it. But he was like, if he showed me a picture, I'll tell you

01:20:54.940 exactly what he was taking. Oh, yeah. No, he, everything. But he said, he said, you

01:20:59.960 know, I lived for a short amount of time for those couple of years, I was a God and

01:21:04.900 most people would never get to experience that. So he's like, do I regret it? No.

01:21:09.940 Because for that amount of time, I was like, you know, I was like a God among men.

01:21:15.460 You never were. I was, and now I'm in pain, but I had that. So I was like, that's a kind

01:21:20.200 of an interesting, and I'll tell you why, because muscles grow, but bones don't. Yeah.

01:21:24.420 Right. When you're done. Right. And this is what I mean by science, because you have

01:21:27.300 two factors in you, you have your insulin growth factors, IGF one and IGF two. IGF one

01:21:31.820 is strong when you're a kid. So when you have those growth spurts and the growth

01:21:34.160 plates, wherever IGF one is high. So the only way to get that as an adult is to take

01:21:37.600 human growth hormone, but because your bones are already done growing, you start

01:21:41.140 calcifying over your bones. That's why these people look at a woman that takes growth

01:21:44.000 hormone, right? And you'll see very prominent bony chin, very prominent shoulders,

01:21:48.160 spiky ass elbow. She looks like fucking knuckles from Sonic the Hedgehog. Like it's

01:21:53.400 because the bone can't grow anymore. So it starts to calcify over, but you

01:21:57.820 regenerate new muscle, but your bones won't get stronger. So when you stop

01:22:02.520 taking steroids and your body starts reverting back to its normal levels, to

01:22:07.100 its own homeostasis, because you were giving it extra geniusly right from the

01:22:10.560 outside, you'll notice you're like, damn, man, my fucking back. Like what the

01:22:15.840 hell are like, damn, I have bad knee pain right now. But just realize your muscles

01:22:18.900 are supporting that bone. And now the muscle structure doesn't support the bone

01:22:21.400 anymore. So now you really feel the effects. I could tell you like right now, my

01:22:24.420 knees for sure from deadlifting so much, I would, I mean, for a small person, I'm

01:22:27.960 only 165 pounds. So I'm at my best. I was 189 when I was cycling and I had it down

01:22:34.960 scientifically to a T blood test and everything. I did it the way you're

01:22:37.660 supposed to do it, but still it took a big toll on my health because now I'm having

01:22:41.720 knee problems. Like, yeah, well, that was probably because you were deadlifting, you know,

01:22:44.560 four or five plates, right? I can't do that now. And I would never dare try to do

01:22:48.100 it again. I can't even squat like a bar anymore. So I have to modify any workout

01:22:52.000 that I do to keep in shape. So mainly, uh, yeah, just, you know, know what you're

01:22:56.980 doing and don't exceed it. You can, you can still do all that stuff safely and you

01:23:00.740 don't have to go to such extreme levels that you're going to end up paying for

01:23:04.720 it, suffering later in life, having to fucking get surgery on your knees and hips

01:23:08.020 and shit and you're 40 years old. And it's stupid.

01:23:10.440 There you go, people don't do steroids.

01:23:12.340 Yeah. So we're going to go to, uh, I'm going to take like one question from, uh,

01:23:18.080 from the, the Twitter spaces and hopefully we'll be able to hear you. If you want to

01:23:22.280 ask a question, just, uh, request to be a speaker and I'll, I'm going to pop you in

01:23:26.920 right now. This is something new. So I'm going to see how it works and hopefully it's

01:23:32.560 not a huge failure. If it is, I guess we'll just play. I'm going to, if it is, I'm going

01:23:36.240 to play the intro that, that I played on the intro because I don't have an outro and

01:23:40.520 we're going to get out of here, but yeah. Okay. We got one request. Let's see who we

01:23:43.680 got. Uh, all right. Dickie, my, my homie. All right. Uh, hell yeah. Dickie. Dickie, uh,

01:23:51.600 go ahead.

01:23:56.360 You got to unmute yourself, buddy.

01:23:57.760 There you go. Raise that volume before you, before you ask the question, before you ask

01:24:05.500 the question. Yeah. There you go. We just want to raise the volume. We just want to raise

01:24:08.460 the volume. Cool. Cool. All right. Go ahead, man. Oh, wait, wait. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah,

01:24:19.580 go ahead. All right, man. Um, enjoy the show. Just one question. Uh, what do you, each of you

01:24:25.520 guys think that demons are? Do you think they are like fallen angels or do you think they're

01:24:30.080 like a Nephilim spirit or are they like a monkey? That's a very, uh, hot topic. So this is what

01:24:35.940 I, what I, hold on, raise it. Cause I hear myself talking and my ADHD is like, wow, I can't.

01:24:41.100 So yeah, little Dickie, I just muted. I mean, little Dickie, big Dickie. I just, little Dickie

01:24:45.880 is a ginger faggot. No, the big Dickie is the man. Um, yeah, I got to mute you because, uh,

01:24:52.460 we're getting feedback from you, but we heard you, we heard you answer the question. So we

01:24:55.660 heard you ask a question. Go ahead, Nick. What do you think? What do you think demons

01:24:58.220 are? So this is from, from like, I've really been getting into this stuff now and now we're,

01:25:03.300 we're, um, I don't know. I'm pretty sure you followed like all this UFO things, uh, shit

01:25:08.360 that's been going on. Uh, that's been happening publicly with the department of defense and there,

01:25:12.540 and even, uh, David Gresh, he's admitted that he doesn't quite believe that what is out

01:25:18.260 there is maybe otherworldly, but it can be, um, another dimension. And he, he mentioned

01:25:23.820 the word dimension. So we do know if you read the Bible that there are other dimensions,

01:25:28.480 right? There's, and they call them realms. There's a heavenly realm. And I just think

01:25:31.500 that, uh, how, how we are as human beings that we're going to, we're going to always lack

01:25:36.540 that, that full capability and understanding of what exactly it is because we really haven't

01:25:41.540 tapped into what the fourth dimension is or, and I'm sure, and there's other dimensions

01:25:46.360 as well, because, uh, you know, the, the, the furthest that we've come into understanding

01:25:51.240 other dimensions is through quantum physics. And they're admitting that there is a fourth

01:25:55.340 dimension and they, they consider like a, like a fourth dimensional cube would be considered

01:25:59.540 a tesseract. And, and if you look up to see what a tesseract actually is, see what your mind

01:26:03.640 thinks of it, right? You really can't put it together, but the fourth, the, the tesseract

01:26:07.520 is, is, is a cube that moves within itself on all directions and all accesses at all times.

01:26:13.440 So to us, it's, it's probably just as good as taking acid or taking some sort of hallucinogenic

01:26:18.440 and then you're like, Oh, I see all these shapes and weird things. Right. And what I believe

01:26:21.480 in that sense is your brain or your pineal gland or something is able to see, uh, bits

01:26:26.640 and pieces of what the fourth dimension is, but we can't comprehend it just yet. And I'm

01:26:31.540 sure, you know, as we, we, we progress in sciences, maybe, maybe not, but I'll tell you

01:26:37.340 this much. Um, I, I, I believe it's all intertwined one another. I believe that whatever

01:26:42.460 is we're finding from these other dimensions are what we consider demons. And it's just,

01:26:47.620 we put such a stigma on demons as their spirit being. Well, if it's a spirit being, it's a

01:26:52.340 being, correct? So that's what the Bible calls them as a spirit beings, fallen angels, whatever

01:26:56.740 you may have it, but the existence of them is very evident throughout history. And especially

01:27:02.360 with what we're finding out now with what information these people have gotten and who they say,

01:27:07.880 like there's just some figure came over the sea or something or came to them and then it

01:27:11.920 taught them, you know, how to, how to align to true North and true South by building structures

01:27:17.460 that were aligned with stars and different star systems, um, and whatever. So, um, yeah, I

01:27:23.740 honestly believe it's just the other dimensional beings that, that we can't quite understand or

01:27:29.600 comprehend or see. Um, and we just have to wait for the science to catch up or, you know,

01:27:35.740 trip all the time, but I don't think that, that is, that's highly not recommended. I mean,

01:27:40.140 I think, I think the science is, is intentionally, uh, pointing you in the wrong direction. Like

01:27:45.800 the science that they will approve and show us is never going to explain the spiritual nature of

01:27:50.920 the things that he's talking about. Um, because they don't want to sound crazy. They don't want

01:27:53.820 to say, cause you can talk too much. Right. And that's why these people didn't even come forward

01:27:56.980 with the UFOs. Like most of them that, I mean, and there's a lot of like weird shit that people

01:28:00.980 say, I saw they're, they're living in Roswell or living in that area. And they're saying, yeah,

01:28:04.460 I came over here, I came over there. I saw one and it tried to probe me or like, it's hard because

01:28:08.820 there are a lot of like fakers out there just for the attention. But then you listen to like

01:28:12.800 that whole department of defense thing where they were interviewed. Um, they interviewed this,

01:28:17.800 this highly accredited, highly accredited, um, military, uh, defense person. Um, and I wish I

01:28:24.280 understood the titles a little bit better, but all that matters that, and he, he, it's sad that they

01:28:29.460 had to go through such lengths to accredit themselves. So like I did X and Y for 20 years, blah, blah, blah. I've,

01:28:34.240 you know, I was part of the black aces, like flight squadron, like in order for people to believe you.

01:28:39.380 Yeah. And then they're saying like, well, listen, we don't know what it is, but we're just telling

01:28:42.580 you what we have factual. And this is what I paid attention to and all that. The facts, they have

01:28:47.440 radar blips and that's recorded data, right? They have video that is recorded government recorded

01:28:53.880 data. And it had recently become declassified, I suppose. So that he was allowed to show these

01:28:58.240 certain things, but yeah, man, I mean, more than likely in my belief that I'll entertain for

01:29:03.600 now until proven otherwise, uh, some demonic thing. Cause so far, like anything that we found

01:29:09.060 ships and stuff hasn't helped out, helped us out. Right. They're always saying that it's

01:29:12.040 either been harmful or it's been interfering with military operations. It's been hovering

01:29:15.340 over our nukes or it's been hovering over bases or like, like you think that we call target

01:29:20.120 hazards. I don't, I don't know. I don't know. Um, I think the aliens are, are Nephilim in nature.

01:29:26.920 I think that they're, so what is a demon? I think a demon, I would, I would say a demon

01:29:34.000 is, uh, is either not, not a fallen angel, but, but the offspring of a fallen angel or

01:29:39.020 something created by a fallen angel. It, I think if we accurately define what a demon

01:29:43.960 is, it lacks whatever humans have the soul or whatever divine spark that was, that God

01:29:51.580 put into it, that could be a demon, but then that can classify like, uh, aliens. I don't

01:29:57.600 think they have that divine spark. I think they're created by something else. I think

01:30:02.720 a demon would be more malicious in nature. So you'll have full, I think there, I think

01:30:06.160 there are fallen angels that have fallen and, and are actually might want to get back in

01:30:10.460 the good graces of God. And I think there are some that are just trying to wreak havoc

01:30:14.300 and cause as much chaos on earth as possible. Those, I would say demons, other ones I would

01:30:18.120 say fallen angels. I don't really know that there's other beings. There's, there's

01:30:23.180 government created shit like dog men and probably Sasquatch. These are like abominations

01:30:27.940 like that are mixed between. I just say is, is to, uh, to Dickie that, uh, you know, do,

01:30:35.480 do your own research as well, obviously. I mean, and what facts you find, you know, some puzzle

01:30:41.160 pieces will, will combine together and, and some won't. And you just want to, um, you, you

01:30:46.620 want to be able to convince yourself of what, of what you believe and, and, you know, listening

01:30:50.040 to others as well, but like comparing research and just really sticking to, to the facts of

01:30:54.180 what we do know and be open to the idea of, um, maybe it's going to require some, some

01:31:00.400 Bible reading, or maybe it requires some other reading like from the Apocrypha or book of

01:31:06.040 Enoch and just taking little, little bits and pieces like that. And then looking at real

01:31:09.520 world and real world instances that, Hey, they found some hieroglyphics or there's some

01:31:13.340 ancient writing. Um, and they have these pictures on it, but it's depicting something

01:31:19.300 that, that is, is way too advanced for their time. So, um, yeah, man, I mean, great question

01:31:25.400 though. Um, I think it's a good question. The answer is we don't, we don't fucking know.

01:31:30.020 Sorry, man. Sorry, Dickie, but we're going to, we're going to get out of here.

01:31:33.280 Entertain the thought. No matter what, there's no stupid thought about it. Just so you're trying

01:31:36.880 to find your own truth with it. So. Oh yeah. I'm just going to read a couple of comments.

01:31:40.640 It's a awesome second. Sorry. I wasn't paying attention when I have a live guest. It's, it's

01:31:44.760 hard for me to look at the screen and read the, cause some, sometimes the comments are

01:31:48.200 like hilarious. They asked me, uh, uh, yeah. Thanks for the awesome second episode. Thank

01:31:53.400 you. Somebody said, uh, I love this guy in of mice and men fucking hilarious. My boy,

01:32:00.340 Jose, uh, rabbits are delicious. Shout out Jose rabbits are delicious. Yeah. Right. I'm telling

01:32:05.060 you like you wouldn't, you wouldn't think that that thing you thought would taste weird or

01:32:08.120 something, but this guy wants us to play a guitar. That's the only fan section later.

01:32:11.320 You got to pay for that homeboy. Sorry, man. That's on the only fans. Yeah. But again,

01:32:15.540 it's an only bands. Wow. Okay. Yeah. We really got to go. That's only been, yo, thank you guys

01:32:23.780 for hanging out again. This is the top show. This is going to have to do for my outro because

01:32:27.780 I don't have one yet. So thanks for hanging out, man. I appreciate it.

01:32:30.980 The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It

01:32:36.880 is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade them that what they

01:32:43.220 see with their eyes is what there is to see, because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation

01:32:50.280 that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening. And they have.

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