Nephilim Death Squad - December 28, 2025


TIME CAPSULE: God Hated Esau w⧸ Justin of Prometheus Lens Podcast


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 49 minutes

Words per Minute

162.24158

Word Count

17,780

Sentence Count

1,234

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

76


Summary

Justin Brown of The Prometheus Lens Podcast joins us to discuss the story behind the creation of the Nephilim Death Squad, and what it means to be a member of the ancient Israelite royal bloodline. Join the Death Squad!


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 If you go into Leviticus chapter 17, it says in there,
00:00:35.520 To sleep with thy father's wife is to uncover thy father's nakedness.
00:00:45.120 And this was an act of dominance in the ancient world.
00:00:49.280 Reuben slept with his mother.
00:00:52.580 And then if you look at Absalom, which was David's son.
00:00:55.900 He run David out of the kingdom.
00:00:57.780 And the first thing he done is he pitched a tent on David's roof and went into all of his concubines in sight of all of Israel.
00:01:06.200 This was a way to flex on the old man in the ancient times and do a hostile takeover of the family.
00:01:12.140 So, with that in mind, it's like Ham, either his mother willingly slept with him or he raped her, one of the two.
00:01:25.320 But either way, he slept with his mother in an act of dominance wanting him to take over the family.
00:01:31.540 Now, this part, this right here, this little section is my conjecture.
00:01:36.720 It's almost like he done that and he went out to his brothers and he said,
00:01:41.680 Dad's not fit to rule anymore.
00:01:43.540 He's drunk.
00:01:44.700 He just drinks so he passes out.
00:01:46.820 Makes stupid decisions.
00:01:48.060 He's unfit to rule.
00:01:50.260 I just done this thing.
00:01:52.440 If you guys go do it too, it'll be three on one.
00:01:55.480 He can't take us all on.
00:01:56.920 And it's our time to rule.
00:01:59.700 But they refuse.
00:02:01.900 So, in the biblical context, it says that they take a garment, place it on their shoulders and walk backwards and cover their father's nakedness.
00:02:11.660 And then Noah wakes up and then he says, you know, cursed be Canaan.
00:02:19.700 And he said, Ham, a servant to thy brothers you shall be.
00:02:23.320 We are being hypnotized by people like this.
00:02:29.680 News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.
00:02:34.620 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
00:02:43.060 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely true.
00:02:48.940 Oh, yeah, dude.
00:02:50.160 There's some Nephilim shit.
00:02:51.340 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim.
00:03:21.240 Nephilim Death Squad.
00:03:22.380 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a.
00:03:24.820 The Raven.
00:03:25.640 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
00:03:29.340 Before we introduce today's guest, I would just like to remind our live viewers that this is a preview.
00:03:35.080 And around the half an hour mark, we will be leaving YouTube and leaving Rumble and going exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad.
00:03:43.520 If you want to continue watching and having an ad-free viewing experience, you can go to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad.
00:03:51.520 Today's guest is Justin Brown of the Prometheus Lens Podcast.
00:03:58.160 Justin, if you could, for the audience, introduce yourself and let everybody know where they can find your work.
00:04:03.420 Thanks for having me, guys.
00:04:06.180 Yeah, Justin Brown, just a nine-to-five knuckle-dragging everyday Joe, but always loved history, loved scripture, and been deep diving on some of these subjects for over a decade now.
00:04:18.900 I just decided to talk about it and have these conversations with people like you and authors and researchers.
00:04:24.920 Just enjoy every minute of it.
00:04:27.100 Big Bible nerd and history buff.
00:04:30.080 So, just love diving down these rabbit trails, and I think that a lot of these things are interconnected, whether it's aliens, Jesus, ancient lost civilizations, conspiracies, all this type of stuff.
00:04:41.000 But, yeah, you can find me anywhere you can consume content, Facebook, all the social medias and things like that.
00:04:48.280 Just search in Prometheus Lens Podcast, and you can find me there.
00:04:53.160 Awesome, awesome.
00:04:54.440 Yeah, we found you in a bunch of places, but it seems like other people have found you before us.
00:05:00.060 And I'm excited, man, because it's not very often that you get somebody that kind of like...
00:05:04.440 So, you're just like casually reading into this stuff for 10 years and never decided to make a show.
00:05:09.580 You decided...
00:05:10.120 When did you make your show?
00:05:10.920 When did this whole show start?
00:05:13.240 Well, yeah, because basically I'm a jack of all trades, but a master of nothing.
00:05:17.620 I guess I'm a generalist.
00:05:20.260 But honestly, yeah, just probably around 2012, just deep diving and reading.
00:05:24.620 You know, I read, you know, at least a couple books every month.
00:05:28.300 It's a fire that I've started and I can't put out, man.
00:05:31.500 I can't get enough.
00:05:32.380 But, no, it was maybe 2022.
00:05:37.500 I was hanging out with some friends and thought I would start a Bible study.
00:05:41.020 And I was introducing these guys to the Mike Heiser's Unseen Realm and the supernatural worldview of the Bible.
00:05:48.220 Because I grew up in church most of my life.
00:05:51.440 And when I started hearing about these Nephilim giants, fallen angels, the sons of God, and the Deuteronomy 32 worldview,
00:05:58.140 that there's actual entities ruling over the nations.
00:06:01.660 And that explains all the wickedness of today and just all these different topics.
00:06:06.180 I was like, man, I need to share this with other people.
00:06:09.300 I invited 15, 20 people.
00:06:10.900 I had three guys show up.
00:06:12.860 We had three meetings.
00:06:14.280 And then my buddy was like, we're talking about a lot of profound stuff here, man.
00:06:18.400 We should start a podcast.
00:06:19.460 And at this point, I didn't even really know what podcasting was.
00:06:24.200 I knew it was internet radio.
00:06:25.880 So I'd never messed with audio.
00:06:27.600 I'd never messed with video.
00:06:29.700 I was completely just coming in ignorant.
00:06:32.620 And we'd done that.
00:06:33.580 And that show was called The Dig Bible Podcast.
00:06:36.200 We'd done that for, I think, two years now.
00:06:39.260 And so then I decided to start this and just go deeper.
00:06:42.560 Instead of just looking at the Bible, look at ancient history and all the other gambit of topics that I'm fascinated with.
00:06:48.760 But this show has only been, it's not even a year yet.
00:06:52.280 It'll be a year at the end of the month.
00:06:54.560 And God's blessed it, man.
00:06:56.140 There's no other way to explain it because I don't, like I said, I didn't know anything about audio, about video, any of this stuff.
00:07:02.480 And not even a year in and surpassed 100,000 downloads.
00:07:06.760 I'm in the top 100 in Spotify and Apple for my category.
00:07:12.500 And just God's blessed it, man.
00:07:14.220 I enjoy it, man.
00:07:15.400 So it's every day.
00:07:17.240 It's a different adventure.
00:07:18.760 We have a kinship in that way, right?
00:07:21.420 Like it's not just the content that we explore where there's a tremendous overlap between your show and our show.
00:07:27.440 But we also started technically, we're three days away now, top, to the technical birth of Nephilim Death Squad.
00:07:35.580 Technically, we passed it, but we didn't have a YouTube channel for it until October 7th.
00:07:41.140 So we kind of share that in common.
00:07:42.960 That's a lot of fun.
00:07:43.600 We made it on October 7th, didn't that whole, like, oh, my God.
00:07:47.540 Yeah, dude, I don't know what.
00:07:50.180 They're flying into Gaza on their little parachutes or whatever, and we're just like, I'm going to make a YouTube page.
00:07:56.060 Yeah, yeah, on that day.
00:07:57.360 So we share that in common.
00:07:59.920 It's also our one-year anniversary.
00:08:01.900 But this is what we've come to discuss today is a fascinating topic because Esau is a fascinating character within the Bible, and I really am excited today to explore that.
00:08:16.760 But there's another component to the story of Esau that I think you've done an excellent job of doing a deep dig on and providing compelling evidence to support the theory that you have, which is these garments that are associated with Esau and many characters throughout the Bible.
00:08:32.760 David, I'm going to derail you again for a second.
00:08:34.700 Go ahead.
00:08:34.720 Because I know, like, David's like, he's at the diving board.
00:08:37.520 I'm excited.
00:08:38.360 I told you.
00:08:39.120 I was excited for this topic.
00:08:40.180 But I'm going to push you off the diving board for a second.
00:08:42.660 I just got to ask.
00:08:43.840 So 10 years you've been looking into this with your friends.
00:08:47.060 You had a Bible group.
00:08:48.020 I would love to do a show with Thumb because I feel like that would be a fun, like, hectic show.
00:08:52.740 But what is the first one that got you here?
00:08:56.840 Like, oftentimes you'll ask conspiracy theorists.
00:08:58.980 What's your first conspiracy theory that grabbed you by the nuts and didn't let you go?
00:09:04.300 And you're like, well, I guess I'm here for the rest of my life.
00:09:07.080 How did you get into that?
00:09:09.160 Honestly, it was the giants.
00:09:13.820 Yeah, when I first found out, you know, about this type of stuff, it was a Trey Smith video that I stumbled across on YouTube.
00:09:21.680 And he was talking about, you know, angels coming down and breeding with the daughters of men and creating Nephilim giants.
00:09:28.660 And that all the major rebellions of the Bible involve these sons of God.
00:09:34.300 And like I said, I grew up in church.
00:09:35.820 I was like, man, this dude's making stuff up.
00:09:38.060 So I started going through my Bible, you know, and then I started looking into the Hebrew and the original languages and stuff like that.
00:09:44.700 And then it opened up, man.
00:09:45.920 It was like, no, it's, it's, he's right.
00:09:47.720 It's there.
00:09:48.240 And it just blew my mind.
00:09:49.420 And so it was like all these connection points and questions that I had in my head just all began getting answered.
00:09:58.800 And like the conspiracy theorists with the red yarn and the picture tacked up on the wall, that's what I, it was me.
00:10:05.280 I had a cigarette in each hand and red string tying everything together and just standing back and looking at all this stuff.
00:10:11.680 And it was, it was just mind blowing.
00:10:14.180 And once that fire was lit, I couldn't stop.
00:10:18.160 That's kind of how we, we got onto this whole idea of, it was like, we, we, we kind of coined the term Nephilim shit.
00:10:25.680 And it, it became a meme at the time.
00:10:28.700 What was happening?
00:10:29.700 I think, uh, well, UFOs in Vegas, right around the same time.
00:10:34.020 It was around that.
00:10:34.460 It was around that time.
00:10:35.180 Yeah.
00:10:35.460 Yeah.
00:10:35.740 So from there we started saying Nephilim shit.
00:10:38.100 And then, uh, in Miami, you had the Nephilim walking around, right?
00:10:43.100 Or they, they actually at the mall.
00:10:45.020 Yeah.
00:10:45.180 They, they said the Miami mall Nephilim or something like that.
00:10:48.300 There were reports of that.
00:10:49.160 So it got into the vernacular of the public conscious somehow with this like Nephilim shit idea because it encompasses everything.
00:10:57.780 And it was the same thing for me.
00:10:59.240 Once I saw that, once I kind of seen how like all these pieces tie together, then I went and I read, like re-looked at the Bible.
00:11:06.260 I haven't re-read it yet, but I'm, I'm re-reading parts because this is a dense book, but everything makes a lot more sense now, especially the Old Testament.
00:11:15.460 When I read it as a, as a kid and then as a teenager again, and as a young adult again, when I got back in where I met my wife and all that, I, it's just like the Old Testament was boring to me.
00:11:26.660 Like a lot of these and nows, and then a lot of crap that you're like, I don't know what the hell this means.
00:11:31.300 I don't know what they're talking about.
00:11:32.440 Kill everything.
00:11:33.520 Leave nothing.
00:11:34.180 Like this is, this is crazy for me.
00:11:36.600 Going back and reading is like, this is the best book ever written.
00:11:39.520 Ever.
00:11:39.940 Hands down.
00:11:40.380 I never had that sort of, um, I didn't have a foundation in, in, in Christianity or anything like that growing up.
00:11:46.580 I'm now, I just got to, I might be at like Exodus three, chapter three or something like that.
00:11:52.720 So I just got through Genesis.
00:11:54.440 I just got onto Exodus.
00:11:56.340 And, uh, it's interesting cause I get to explore the Bible for the first time with this, these sort of presuppositions already in place.
00:12:04.100 These, you know, uh, people that are sort of my anchor points, right?
00:12:07.400 Gary Wayne, Michael Heiser, uh, characters like that, LA Marzulli.
00:12:10.460 And so, uh, it's, I would agree with that sentiment.
00:12:14.320 I was a lifelong conspiracy theorist, uh, since a teenager, but these things, these conspiracies all acted as an island, uh, separate from one another.
00:12:24.440 And it wasn't until I got the, uh, yeah, it wasn't until I got the biblical lens that it pulled all of them together.
00:12:31.720 And I realized that these things aren't separate and that the fall and the Nephilim, um, and, and really Jesus Christ and God are the, the connective tissue to all these things.
00:12:41.140 And so, um, I just find it interesting because there's, there's so much overlap between what you do and, and what we do.
00:12:47.480 And I think we're entering maybe a new era because of those four mentioned people, right?
00:12:52.340 Gary Wayne and Michael Heiser and characters like that, uh, of understanding the realm that we inhabit.
00:12:57.580 Yeah.
00:12:58.100 And they're bridges, you know what I mean?
00:12:59.580 They're, they're, they connect all these different points and especially I've always loved, uh, ancient mythology and was fascinated by it and all the common themes.
00:13:09.240 You know, when you look into, uh, the Greek mythology, you have, you know, this divine, uh, council of Zeus and all these other gods.
00:13:17.980 Well, that's a biblical theme.
00:13:19.800 And so when I found that, you know, in there, uh, Psalms 82, it talks about, you know, how long will you rule unjustly?
00:13:26.700 You are, uh, gods, all of you sons of the most high, you desire to live the eternal life.
00:13:31.520 How long will you show partiality to the wicked?
00:13:33.940 But no, you shall die and fall like any prince.
00:13:37.420 And then it says, you know, God sets in judgment in his divine counsel.
00:13:42.000 And that Job scene where Satan strolls up and they're talking, you see all this in the Bible.
00:13:46.880 And for me growing up and hearing all these stories, I knew them well, they were, you know, pounded into my head.
00:13:53.340 So when I got this new pair of glasses, so to speak, I was reading a whole new book.
00:13:59.020 And for me, I thought I knew these stories.
00:14:02.060 No, I did not know these stories.
00:14:06.660 You know, um, I, I, I kind of want to bring this back then to, uh, because before we started the show, I was sitting here with top and I was telling him that I was, I was pumped.
00:14:17.000 And I don't want to say that I don't get excited for other shows.
00:14:19.720 It's just like, we've been on a rampage lately.
00:14:22.220 We've been producing five, six shows sometimes per week.
00:14:27.060 Um, and I have noticed that I've almost gotten into the, just the machinery of what we're doing.
00:14:35.380 The gears are turning and we're constantly cranking out content.
00:14:38.820 But, um, I found myself genuinely excited to do this episode more so than other ones, because Esau to me is a fascinating topic.
00:14:48.320 Like, as somebody who has been going through the Bible, uh, for the first time recently, when it came to Esau, from the outside looking in, it, it almost seems like, um, you could have empathy for Esau.
00:15:04.440 Because it looks like in every which way he sort of gets screwed, right?
00:15:09.000 Like, when it comes to coming in from the fields and he's nearly on death's door.
00:15:15.400 And his brother just Jews him, right?
00:15:17.140 Yeah, and his brother just kind of goes like, oh, okay, you want this soup?
00:15:20.980 Um, you, you've got to trade me your birthright.
00:15:23.620 And now I know, you just said, as, as God intended, right?
00:15:26.580 And it's, it's from the, from their birth, this was preordained.
00:15:30.780 But without that context, you look at it and you go, oh, damn, that's a little bit screwed up.
00:15:35.560 And then when it goes to his own mother.
00:15:37.920 David, this is why I named the episode this, God Hated Esau.
00:15:40.620 It's one of those things in the Bible.
00:15:41.800 When I read, I was like, that's messed up.
00:15:43.640 And then it doesn't, you, you, like, we had an episode yesterday about understanding God.
00:15:48.440 And I did not understand God at all.
00:15:50.300 I was like, so, so let me get this right.
00:15:51.900 This guy was born and he was, God was just like, hell with that guy.
00:15:55.520 And then there's no reason really.
00:15:57.660 He's just like, he hated him.
00:15:59.700 Next, next verse.
00:16:01.260 And then it seems like his own, his own mother betrays him.
00:16:04.180 Right.
00:16:04.800 Yeah.
00:16:05.120 When it comes to orchestrating the entire stealing of the birthright.
00:16:08.780 So there's a lot of things with, with Esau that are seemingly mysterious.
00:16:14.420 I'm excited to get into this topic today and you're going to forgive us.
00:16:18.420 You're going to have to forgive us.
00:16:19.320 Cause we're going to derail you with a million questions as we go through this episode.
00:16:22.680 But I want you to do your damnedest to start where you think this story should be started.
00:16:29.280 It's okay to tell us to shut up too.
00:16:31.480 It's yeah, it's yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:32.620 But we're going to, we're going to derail you.
00:16:34.740 We're going to interrupt you, but please, uh, Justin, start this where you think it should
00:16:38.680 be started.
00:16:39.860 Okay.
00:16:40.620 And for those that are familiar with the story, uh, I apologize if I sound redundant, but
00:16:46.340 I think some of this stuff we can't take for granted that people know the biblical story
00:16:51.240 and know the details of Esau.
00:16:53.260 So some of this might be mundane, uh, to some of the listeners and viewers that, that, you
00:16:59.380 know, but we have to take into account, there's quite a bit of people that don't know the story
00:17:03.280 of Esau or don't even know the most basic things.
00:17:06.460 Um, so Esau is, I compare him to the Genesis six narrative because here Genesis six, we have
00:17:14.320 this little blurb.
00:17:15.200 It says, you know, uh, the sons of God came down, bred with the daughters of men, you know,
00:17:19.100 they were the mighty men of old men of renowned and boom, it moves on.
00:17:23.260 Um, well, that's a pretty big deal.
00:17:26.480 And the reason why is because they had all these other scrolls circulating.
00:17:32.160 They had these other, what we call apocryphal books circulating.
00:17:37.820 They also had oral traditions.
00:17:39.820 So this was something that was already well-established, well-covered.
00:17:43.960 They didn't feel they needed to theoretically beat a dead horse.
00:17:47.360 So they didn't cover it much.
00:17:48.800 And I believe that this is the same situation with this character Esau.
00:17:53.780 You know, we get a description of his birth and all of a sudden he, uh, trades his birth
00:17:59.740 right when he gets older and then he marries off into some, uh, Canaanite clans that he
00:18:05.280 was forbidden to, to go into.
00:18:07.220 Then you don't hear nothing else.
00:18:08.400 And then later in the new Testament or sorry, not the new Testament, where was it?
00:18:12.720 Where it said, and Esau, I hated.
00:18:16.580 So it's like, you don't hear much about him, but if you go to these, uh, extra biblical books,
00:18:23.380 those are your bridge gaps.
00:18:25.540 Like we talked about earlier.
00:18:27.360 Romans 9, 13.
00:18:29.140 Yeah.
00:18:29.440 I thought it was new Testament, but yeah.
00:18:30.940 That's it.
00:18:31.120 Jacob, I love Jesus.
00:18:33.100 Uh, Esau, I hated.
00:18:34.440 That's it.
00:18:35.540 Yeah.
00:18:35.940 Yeah.
00:18:36.200 And just to piggyback off of what, what Justin's saying too, it's like, there are other descriptives
00:18:41.660 that they very much in the same way where it's like, uh, uh, uh, mighty men, you know,
00:18:46.580 men of renown.
00:18:47.300 And then it just moves on.
00:18:48.980 It's like, Oh, by the way, he was covered in wool.
00:18:52.520 It seems so anyway.
00:18:54.000 And then you just keep going like, uh, and, and I know we'll get into it, but there is
00:18:57.960 a moment in the Bible where his brother to disguise himself as Esau covers his arms in
00:19:04.200 wool, uh, so that his blind father won't detect that it's not actually Jacob.
00:19:08.520 And that's something that like, you know, people don't really, they don't really explain that
00:19:12.580 and just go, yeah, he was a very hairy guy.
00:19:14.360 And it's like, Justin, this would, this would actually, so like the Bible is, is a compendium
00:19:17.940 of books and it's leading up to, um, man, when was the, I guess the latest book written?
00:19:23.200 It would have had to have been written in like 70 years AD or something like that.
00:19:26.600 Right.
00:19:27.340 In order for it to be included in the new Testament.
00:19:29.840 So they, in the new Testament, they also kind of briefly just talk about like, I don't
00:19:34.280 know, Jesus meets a dog faced woman and they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:37.060 You know the deal.
00:19:37.940 So it was like how these, these Nephilim were on the earth before those days and out and
00:19:43.800 after is what they're saying.
00:19:45.400 So it was like up until when did they stop seeing Nephilim and in this being a normal thing?
00:19:50.320 Cause I wouldn't mention if I'm like, like, Hey, I'm going to write a book.
00:19:52.840 It was like in this book, there are black people.
00:19:55.880 And then like, for the, like not thinking this is for like centuries down, let's say
00:19:59.240 there are no black people anymore.
00:20:00.740 It wouldn't, yeah.
00:20:01.580 I would not preface it with that.
00:20:03.760 Right.
00:20:04.460 So it's like how, then it gets you thinking like how long, how long have we been living
00:20:08.900 not necessarily seeing these things or as a common phenomenon?
00:20:12.780 We see them as cryptids now, but, and it's very recent, I would assume.
00:20:19.100 And that's why it's so important to immerse yourself in the culture and the times of the
00:20:22.660 people that wrote the book and who it was written to.
00:20:26.260 Just like today, you know, if we buried a, I don't know, a times magazine and it had all
00:20:33.520 the current news and stuff in it.
00:20:34.960 And then, you know, one of us gets a divine revelation from God and we write it and it ends
00:20:40.620 up making it into the Bible, it's this holy book, whatever, very important.
00:20:44.960 Then two or three thousand years later, somebody digs up this time magazine and it's talking
00:20:51.120 about, you know, the pop stars, what they were doing, uh, what the president, uh, who
00:20:56.180 the president was and just all these cultural things.
00:20:59.980 And it does mention some stuff about this new revelation.
00:21:03.840 This guy had people of that time.
00:21:07.520 If we compare it to today, how they look at the extra biblical stuff, they'll say, that's
00:21:11.840 not divine inspired.
00:21:12.960 It has no value.
00:21:14.200 You don't need to read it.
00:21:15.860 Well, at that, that time magazine, it might not be divine inspired, but it gives you a
00:21:21.000 mindset of the people of that time, what they think, what they seen and what was going on.
00:21:26.300 And that way you can get a better understanding of that new revelation that was written because
00:21:32.320 it was written during that time.
00:21:33.760 Um, so context of the, of the people is so very important and we miss it with our modern
00:21:39.140 viewpoint.
00:21:41.020 That's actually a great way of putting it too, because if for some reason that new revelation
00:21:45.620 did mention, you know, I don't know, pop stars, and it just mentioned they're up and they're
00:21:51.540 dancing on a stage or whatever, you would look at that and you would think that's strange.
00:21:54.460 And if it was just a short detail, you might go past it.
00:21:57.020 It's not like you would stop to go, well, what pop stars are and their cultural context
00:22:02.360 at the time is X, Y, and Z.
00:22:04.880 This is how it got started.
00:22:06.420 Here is many examples.
00:22:07.940 No, that's not part of it.
00:22:09.960 And so in that way, when it's talking about dog face women, or when it's talking about a
00:22:15.140 man who's got hair on his body, like wool, um, it's not going to stop and say, now there
00:22:22.160 was a precedence for men with hair on their body, like wool, and this is what they were.
00:22:27.240 Here's many examples of them.
00:22:28.640 And here's how they interacted with society.
00:22:30.740 It doesn't do that.
00:22:31.660 It just says, this is this person.
00:22:34.240 Here's a detail about them.
00:22:35.420 Anyway, moving on.
00:22:36.360 So yeah, I can appreciate that.
00:22:38.000 It's not written to, to clue people in, in the future.
00:22:41.140 It's interesting though, how they did reference like them as men, like almost like their peers,
00:22:46.680 right?
00:22:47.480 Because when they are mentioned, they're not, if, if we wrote a book about Bigfoot and be like,
00:22:51.560 yo, that was a fricking Bigfoot here.
00:22:53.880 And that's like, it would be exclamation points.
00:22:55.540 They're like, no, this is just another guy, but he was, he looked like a dog or something.
00:22:59.040 He's one of those hairy guys.
00:22:59.680 Yeah.
00:22:59.920 Yeah.
00:23:00.060 He's one of those guys.
00:23:01.120 He's just a giant guy.
00:23:02.300 So it was like, yeah, they're, they're treating them as almost equals because they're probably
00:23:06.120 bartering with them.
00:23:07.060 I mean, they hate them.
00:23:08.280 Well, yeah.
00:23:08.700 Cause then you could even begin to speculate that like the, the lack of emphasis that's put
00:23:13.660 on these seemingly strange details to us indicates that this is not strange to them whatsoever.
00:23:20.240 No, it's very common.
00:23:22.160 So when you get to Esau, the first mention of him is his conception and his mother, Rebecca
00:23:32.620 becomes pregnant and the angel, the Lord comes and basically comes to her and gives her this
00:23:39.260 prophecy.
00:23:40.080 And that's in Genesis 25 verse 22.
00:23:43.240 And it says, the children struggled together within her.
00:23:46.380 So she inquired of the Lord and it said, the Lord said, two nations are in your womb and
00:23:52.240 two peoples from within you shall be divided and one shall be stronger than the other.
00:24:00.420 So right away, we're told, you know, there's two nations, there's two peoples and that they
00:24:09.640 would be divided and one will be stronger than the other.
00:24:12.440 And so that's the first time we hear about him.
00:24:15.760 So, but if we go to Genesis three in the garden, I think this is the origin point.
00:24:22.100 And in the words of LA Marzulli, cause I heard you guys mentioned him, it all hinges on Genesis
00:24:28.020 three 15 in this seed war.
00:24:29.860 And at this fall, uh, in chapter three, starting in verse 14, this is the cursing when they
00:24:36.780 fail, it says, the Lord God said to the serpent, because you've done this cursed above you, accursed
00:24:42.100 are you above all livestock and above all beasts of the field on your belly.
00:24:45.480 You shall go dust.
00:24:46.480 You shall eat all the days of your life.
00:24:48.140 And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring.
00:24:55.420 He shall bruise your head and you shall bruise his heel.
00:25:01.340 And it says the man called his wife, uh, Eve, because she was the mother of all living and
00:25:06.500 the Lord God made for Adam and his wife, garments of skins and clothed them.
00:25:11.680 Um, and for those that are not familiar, Michael Heiser done a lot of just groundbreaking work
00:25:18.760 on this word, this word for serpent in Hebrew is Nakash.
00:25:23.820 And just like the English language, the Hebrew language is very diverse.
00:25:28.540 One word can have multiple meanings.
00:25:30.360 So you have to insert those different ones into the context and see which one fits best.
00:25:35.600 And one of those alternative definitions is the shining one or the one who practices divination.
00:25:43.820 So to me, that one makes a lot more sense that this was a divine being on God's divine
00:25:51.040 council on his holy mountain and that rebelled.
00:25:55.960 There's another interesting, uh, definition of that word.
00:25:59.780 And, uh, Dr. Laura Sanger brings it up because she has a book about the federal reserve having
00:26:04.440 its roots, it from the Nephilim basically.
00:26:07.500 But the word Nakash is to mean, it means to deceive, but it also means to lend on interest.
00:26:13.360 And it's funny how all these translations of this word or all the definitions of this word
00:26:18.520 kind of do point back to the shining one, to Lucifer, to the original fallen angel himself,
00:26:24.820 no matter which definition it is, in my opinion.
00:26:28.320 Yeah, I do find that interesting as well, because it doesn't necessarily seem like it's
00:26:32.600 one definition.
00:26:34.580 It seems like they all kind of, um, point to one word being incredibly diverse and descriptive,
00:26:41.780 which is very interesting because if you're, if you are thinking that the Bible isn't that
00:26:47.640 descriptive, you might be shocked when you start to look into the translation of a word
00:26:50.940 and find that just one word on its own has so much different context.
00:26:54.880 And maybe, maybe all of it applies in some way.
00:26:58.860 Mm-hmm.
00:26:59.580 And when you get to, which I don't, I won't read at all, but for those that want to look
00:27:03.120 it up, Ezekiel 28 and many scholars are in agreement that this is talking to the king of Tyre,
00:27:11.900 obviously, but halfway through it changes.
00:27:14.780 And he's talking to a divine being that's behind this ruler and pulling the strings, basically.
00:27:20.720 And in there, you can tell when it changes because he's calling out the king and he's
00:27:26.060 talking about a human person, but then all of a sudden it changes.
00:27:29.300 Then it says that you were in the garden of God.
00:27:32.700 You know, you were perfect in all your ways.
00:27:36.040 Uh, all, uh, all the precious stones were your coverings.
00:27:40.040 And it lists, you know, sardis, topaz, diamond, barrel, onyx, jasper, all these different stones
00:27:45.680 and gold inlays were your engravings and your, your settings.
00:27:50.460 And they were made for you on the day you were created, but then iniquity was, in fact,
00:27:55.060 was found in you.
00:27:56.140 And it goes on, it says, in the abundance of your trade, unrighteousness was found in
00:28:00.580 you and you profaned your sanctuaries.
00:28:04.900 So, you know, the scholarship is almost unanimous that this is talking to Satan.
00:28:10.480 Can you pull that back top for a second?
00:28:12.840 Cause I, I do have something just, it, it, it actually plays into yesterday's episode
00:28:17.020 when, um, uh, uh, I'm sorry.
00:28:20.220 What was his name?
00:28:20.780 We spoke to, was it John, John Lenhart and, and Ed Mabry.
00:28:25.640 And I noticed something here.
00:28:27.240 You said, uh, Justin, that it switches over and he's talking to, um, a divine being suddenly
00:28:33.100 a spiritual entity.
00:28:34.020 And I noticed that for the first half, he's, he's, was it Ezekiel 28?
00:28:38.700 I'm sorry.
00:28:39.300 Like, yeah.
00:28:40.860 Okay.
00:28:41.160 It just changed on me.
00:28:42.400 It's weird.
00:28:42.900 So in the first half, it looks like he's asking a bunch of questions.
00:28:47.080 If you scroll down top to where all of a sudden there is a, uh, um, man, I can't, it doesn't
00:28:53.720 look the same to me anymore.
00:28:54.840 Maybe it's a different version.
00:28:55.920 But it looked like when he was speaking to the, to the, to the king, he was asking him
00:28:59.980 a bunch of questions.
00:29:00.840 And then all of a sudden when it switched over to him speaking to the, uh, the spiritual
00:29:04.600 entity, he was stating a bunch of things.
00:29:07.300 Uh, and that was something that we learned yesterday about the way that God interacts
00:29:11.900 with humans and the way that God interacts with the spiritual realm with human beings.
00:29:16.760 He asks a lot of questions.
00:29:18.420 So for example, when it comes to Adam and Eve, it's where are you when he's looking for them
00:29:22.660 in the garden and then it's Job?
00:29:25.040 Yeah.
00:29:25.380 And then it's, yes.
00:29:26.180 And it's, it's also, um, who has told you that you are naked.
00:29:30.160 And then he goes to Eve and he goes, why have you done this thing?
00:29:33.660 Will thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God, but thou shalt be a man.
00:29:39.020 And no.
00:29:39.780 So he's, he's asking the men questions.
00:29:41.920 Then when he says thou, when he starts talking about thou art anointed to share that cover it.
00:29:47.460 I don't see any more question marks.
00:29:49.280 He is pointing at him and saying, but you, but you, like, this is a judgment.
00:29:53.340 Very interesting.
00:29:54.000 This is no longer a, yeah.
00:29:55.520 That plays very well off of yesterday's episode.
00:29:58.220 Yeah.
00:29:59.780 And those, uh, describing, you know, all the different color stones and the gold inlays
00:30:06.360 and all that stuff that matches perfectly.
00:30:08.760 When you go to the book of Exodus, that is the priestly garments that was made for the
00:30:14.180 priests that went in that was, and it even says in Exodus that this was made as their coverings.
00:30:21.900 Okay.
00:30:22.340 And when you get to that Genesis three event, right, it says God made, uh, made garments
00:30:27.180 for them and gave them in the Hebrew, it says that he hillbishes.
00:30:31.960 That's the Hebrew word.
00:30:33.280 He hillbishes their nakedness.
00:30:36.400 And this is the exact same thing.
00:30:38.560 When it gets into Exodus, it says this garment was made to hillbish their nakedness.
00:30:43.560 So it's, it's drawing correlations and using the law first mentioned pointing back to Adam
00:30:50.600 and all rabbinic traditions have Adam as the first King and priest of all creation.
00:30:56.100 Then Ezekiel 28 talks about Lucifer and he had on this garment and it even says you profaned
00:31:03.300 your sanctuaries, you know, and there's a lot of people talk about Lucifer was the, uh,
00:31:09.980 the head of praise and worship and things like that.
00:31:12.300 Now, this is my theory from reading those and the connection with the, the rabbinic priesthood
00:31:19.200 to Adam and this cloth that was given to him.
00:31:21.800 I believe that these were the coverings of the Nakash, that the Nakash was the, the priest
00:31:29.780 of, of creation.
00:31:31.660 And he had this garment according to Ezekiel 28, he had a sanctuary, which he profaned, but
00:31:37.560 then he was demoted, cast from heaven, lost his sanctuary.
00:31:40.980 And this covering was given to Adam and Eve.
00:31:43.280 And that's where you, the rabbis draw their origin points to the priesthood was this event.
00:31:50.860 And if you think about it, that fits the description of his name.
00:31:55.500 If he had on all these multicolored stones, gold inlays, you know, perfect in beauty from
00:32:00.640 the day he was created and all this, that would fit the name.
00:32:04.900 The Shining One.
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00:33:26.220 And it makes a lot of sense, too, because for God to have given them garments, I mean,
00:33:33.300 it would take a reductionist point of view to say, like, God just, I don't know, gave
00:33:37.920 them loincloths.
00:33:38.880 God just gave them a long T-shirt.
00:33:41.820 You know what I mean?
00:33:42.340 Like, if God is giving you garments as the first man and woman in the garden, then you
00:33:49.940 would imagine that these garments would have, they would be of some significance.
00:33:55.920 Yes.
00:33:56.560 I'm just imagining.
00:33:57.420 That alone would make Satan hate you.
00:33:59.480 Well, you know, something he wore was his, you know, what do you call it, like the trophy
00:34:03.220 on the mantelpiece.
00:34:04.080 It was his source of pride and pompous, you know.
00:34:07.260 Now, all of a sudden, it's taken from you and given to your younger brother.
00:34:10.360 That alone would make him hate you.
00:34:13.440 Imagine being in the garden at the time, and I'm just picturing it like real gangster,
00:34:18.480 where he's like, you, he's judging him, you, you, you, you're going to crawl on your
00:34:22.800 belly, you'll this and that.
00:34:23.840 And then he just goes and he's like, give me your robe.
00:34:26.180 And he's like, what?
00:34:26.840 He's like, give me your robe.
00:34:28.020 And he takes the robe off of him, it's like pushes him.
00:34:30.540 He maybe had two robes, takes another one off and pushes him.
00:34:33.560 This was an embarrassing event.
00:34:35.560 Yeah.
00:34:35.680 And it doesn't kind of, like, thinking about it, it had to have been.
00:34:38.540 It had to strip your stuff off you, here, you hold that, and you go away.
00:34:42.980 And it's like, man, no wonder why he hates us.
00:34:46.560 Yeah.
00:34:48.120 And so I give you that as just a backstory, because now the next time we hear about Esau
00:34:53.780 was his actual birth.
00:34:55.440 So I was setting up the backdrop.
00:34:57.260 I made a joke on one of the shows.
00:34:59.160 I said, I give you the hobbits before the Lord of the Rings.
00:35:03.420 So you got the full picture here.
00:35:05.120 There we go.
00:35:05.920 But Genesis 25, 25, you know, it says,
00:35:10.200 The first came out red all over his body like a hairy cloak.
00:35:13.400 And so they called his name Esau.
00:35:15.120 And afterwards, his brother came out with his hand holding Esau's heel.
00:35:19.000 So he called his name Jacob.
00:35:20.760 So I think that if Esau was a serpent seed, we have Satan already sticking his hand into
00:35:35.000 the cookie jar and trying to mess things up.
00:35:38.400 And he tries to flip God's prophecy, because remember, he says plainly that the serpent would
00:35:44.960 have a seed and that she would have a seed and that they would be at enmity with one another.
00:35:52.220 One would crush the head and the other would bruise the heel.
00:35:56.220 So here we have Esau coming out first with his foot on Jacob's head, pushing to get out of the womb.
00:36:04.880 And then Jacob reaching up and holding on to Esau's heel.
00:36:09.340 It all goes back to Genesis 3, 15.
00:36:12.000 And this was the ancient worldview, because Flavius Josephus, if you read his writings,
00:36:17.760 when he talks about the strife between the brothers, he chooses a word, I think, very intentionally.
00:36:26.680 He says that there was enmity between the two brothers.
00:36:32.400 Now, I know this is going to take some, well, I wonder, what are your thoughts on how this came to pass?
00:36:44.080 In other words, how did his mother end up having two different genetic lines in her womb at the same time?
00:36:52.960 Now, this is just outright conjecture on my part, because it doesn't say.
00:36:59.700 But we do know that there was two people, there was, you know, two different types of people in her womb.
00:37:07.680 That's what scripture says.
00:37:09.320 They were at enmity with one another.
00:37:11.880 And then you had the head and the heel, everything pointing back to 3, 15.
00:37:16.120 And it said Satan would have a seed, she would have a seed.
00:37:18.440 That's what we know.
00:37:19.760 I mean, that's, you know, not debatable.
00:37:21.560 So, what my theory is, is if it was a situation similar to Sarah, that she couldn't have children,
00:37:34.160 and she prayed and prayed and prayed and didn't have any.
00:37:38.560 And if you trace, Rebecca come from a nation that worshipped all these fertility gods.
00:37:51.560 And these fertility gods, they would have rites, and they would, you know, do worship and do different things to try to gain pregnancy.
00:37:59.920 You know, the whole fertility thing, it went to crops, it went to pregnancies, all these different types of things.
00:38:06.160 And, you know, she was even quoted that she was taking teraphim idols from her father's house.
00:38:15.360 And so, and it said that a handmaiden went with her.
00:38:19.520 Maybe, maybe, she was praying to the Lord, didn't get her prayers answered, and maybe she got desperate,
00:38:27.100 and maybe her or her handmaiden prayed to another fertility god from their homeland.
00:38:33.580 And just like the ancient stories, you know, comparative mythology, how many stories do you have where you have twins,
00:38:42.460 and one of them be human, and the other one be divine, because a god breeds with the woman after the husband,
00:38:50.480 and then there you have two seeds and two offsprings.
00:38:52.740 You find it time and time again.
00:38:54.140 One that stands out in my mind is Hercules.
00:38:57.820 Hercules was from a set of twins.
00:39:01.240 His brother was a normal human from his biological father, while he was a divine seed from Zeus.
00:39:10.200 Wow.
00:39:10.780 That's, that might even draw to like the king's right.
00:39:13.700 You know what that is?
00:39:15.560 Mm-mm.
00:39:16.300 Oh, yeah, where he can sleep with the bride on her wedding night.
00:39:21.260 Yeah, it's almost like him putting his seed in that, like if he's deemed as a god, and then you have this female,
00:39:29.360 I mean, you have the male seed in there as well, that, some symbolism there.
00:39:34.360 Right.
00:39:35.240 And like I said, that's just a theory.
00:39:37.120 I mean, scripture doesn't say, but we can, I make that, it's not just something I pull out of my back pocket,
00:39:43.140 it's something that we see that is a custom of the time, and we also see it through comparative mythology and other nations and peoples and their stories.
00:39:53.600 Okay.
00:39:54.140 That's nefarious, huh?
00:39:55.280 I knew that it was going to take some conjecture, because I knew that there wasn't really much to draw on from it.
00:40:02.380 But, I mean, to draw on, go ahead.
00:40:04.280 Yeah, would that mean that, like, Isaac wasn't in control of his wife as well as he should have been if she's, like, going out and seeking these external solutions for something that she should have had faith in?
00:40:17.920 Well, we kind of see that, don't we, Top?
00:40:19.580 Like, when it comes to Solomon and all of his wives and eventually being convinced to, you know, pay some sort of veneration to the pagan deities that they worship from, you know, wherever it is that his wives came from.
00:40:32.820 So, there is precedent throughout the Bible for this sort of thing happening.
00:40:36.900 And it does seem that man will constantly falter.
00:40:41.300 Top, you always bring it up.
00:40:42.760 It's like, you know, Moses goes on the mountain, and when he comes back down, they're already clamoring and worshiping this golden calf or this golden bull.
00:40:51.420 So, it does seem that time and time again, there's a tug of war between man's veneration to either God or to these pagan deities.
00:41:01.260 So, I mean, I can see how that's – it's not something, like you said, Justin, that you would have pulled out of your back pocket.
00:41:07.240 There is precedent for this sort of thing happening repeatedly, not only in the Bible, but as you pointed out, and I think it's a great example, in Greek mythology, which is, you know, once it's – our estimation is just the fallen.
00:41:18.920 And if that theory does pan out or hold water, I think it makes more sense, too, why Rebecca played such an active role in deceiving Isaac and exalting Jacob.
00:41:32.860 Because she maybe felt guilty and had remorse for not trusting God and seeking this other God's help and knew that Esau was a result of it.
00:41:44.580 I love that because – and we're going to get into it, but I always looked at that.
00:41:48.820 It's one thing for her to receive this message that there would be two peoples in her womb and that this sort of thing would come to pass.
00:41:56.860 But it's another thing to see – and I know we only get a short window into, you know, who Rebecca was, but it just seems so without remorse.
00:42:06.340 And honestly, that plugs in pretty well because you go, this must have been a hard decision for a mother to have to do these things.
00:42:13.060 But it's like she was leading the plot against her child, and if she had that sort of information or knew that that could have been the source of Esau, then that would explain her behavior as well.
00:42:25.640 Honestly, it feels like – you know this is happening today.
00:42:29.980 Like people do commune with Satan or whatever demon that comes through, and in these satanic cults, there's a lot of like weird sex rituals.
00:42:37.440 There's a lot of sex going on.
00:42:39.740 And yeah, I think it's just kind of – it's hilarious for us to assume that the Nephilim don't walk the earth today.
00:42:48.660 They're just more well-disguised.
00:42:52.180 And then it comes – that syndrome comes to mind, the demon-faced syndrome that popped up out of nowhere and then went out of – they're like, oh, people are looking at other people's faces and seeing demons.
00:43:01.220 Anyway, next that, you know, we have a hurricane coming through.
00:43:04.780 It's like, excuse me?
00:43:06.200 Just glossed over the important part?
00:43:07.740 Like that's – I don't know, man.
00:43:09.300 It's a medical disorder.
00:43:09.620 It's a medical disorder.
00:43:11.060 Demon-faced syndrome.
00:43:12.020 We said syndrome, so now it's classified as a medical disorder.
00:43:15.300 In fact, I'm sure they're working on a very lucrative pharmaceutical for it.
00:43:20.900 Yep.
00:43:21.300 So, all right, so let's continue on.
00:43:23.940 In the very least, you knew that she knew that they were totally different seeds.
00:43:29.100 I mean, because one come out, you know, red, covered in hair like a hairy cloak.
00:43:34.140 And so it goes from there.
00:43:36.860 And then the next time we hear of Esau is the famous trading of the birthright.
00:43:42.860 And if we go to Genesis, and that's in the same chapter.
00:43:45.780 It's in 25, but it starts in verse 29.
00:43:48.100 It says,
00:44:18.100 So, growing up in church, I was just told, ah, he was just carnal.
00:44:30.540 He, you know, let his stomach and his emotions and desires of the now and the flesh rule over him.
00:44:38.280 And he just didn't care for his birthright.
00:44:40.080 And to me, that made absolutely no sense because with the modern viewpoint, you know, the eldest child back then was the favorite child.
00:44:50.160 He got everything.
00:44:51.600 The younger one served the older.
00:44:53.620 So, that's like today, if your father was Donald Trump and you're the eldest son, about to inherit millions of dollars, all the, everything he owns, you're about to get it all.
00:45:06.200 And then you just come in one day and you're hungry.
00:45:08.980 You see your younger brother eating a bag of Doritos.
00:45:11.260 And you're like, hey, bro, give me some Doritos.
00:45:12.860 He's like, I signed over to the company and they're yours.
00:45:15.360 And you're like, yeah, whatever.
00:45:16.700 I'm starving.
00:45:18.160 That would never happen.
00:45:20.100 So, there's something missing here.
00:45:24.020 So, once you go to these extra biblical books, like I talked about, that's where you find your bridge gap and your feelings.
00:45:31.100 Because if you remember, it just says that he come in from the field exhausted.
00:45:35.280 Right.
00:45:36.040 Well, Jasher in chapter 27, it says right here, it says,
00:45:41.540 And Esau at that time after the death of Abraham frequently went into the field to hunt.
00:45:45.880 And Nimrod, king of Babel, the same was Amphreel, also frequently went with his mighty men.
00:45:52.880 And in Hebrew, mighty, that word is gibbor.
00:45:56.360 And that's the same word used to describe the Nephilim giants.
00:46:01.060 So, it says,
00:46:02.000 Him and his mighty men went to hunt in the field and walk about with his men in the cool of the day.
00:46:06.740 And Nimrod was observing Esau all of the days.
00:46:10.440 For a jealousy was formed in the heart of Nimrod against Esau.
00:46:15.120 So, it says, Nimrod's in the field and he's observing Esau.
00:46:19.420 It words it almost like he's hunting this hairy beast of a man.
00:46:24.100 And it goes on, it says,
00:46:25.820 And on a certain day Esau went into the field to hunt, and he found Nimrod walking in the wilderness with his two men.
00:46:32.440 And all of his mighty men and his people were with him in the wilderness, and they moved at him from a distance.
00:46:37.240 And I'll just kind of skip down and get to the meat here.
00:46:40.680 But it goes on, it says that he separates himself, and Nimrod and two of his gibborim mighty men were away from the group.
00:46:51.540 And that Esau steps out from his hiding place and takes a sword and kills Nimrod, cuts off his head.
00:47:01.120 And then he fights the other two gibborim and kills them.
00:47:06.800 And then the other hunting party hears the screams and comes running to see what's going on.
00:47:12.100 So Esau then steals the garments off of Nimrod's dead body and says that he goes to his house and hides the garments, but then goes to his father's house.
00:47:26.400 And there's where the Genesis narrative picks up, because, yeah, in fact, he did come from the field exhausted, because he just fought three gibborim, three mighty men, possibly giants.
00:47:42.180 We know from the depictions that Nimrod was depicted as a giant.
00:47:46.880 And so he was basically...
00:47:47.400 It's not only that, right, Justin?
00:47:48.280 It's like, if this is Nimrod, his personal guard, these are the, you know...
00:47:54.400 Bad dudes.
00:47:55.120 We're talking about the highest skilled warriors that this land has to offer.
00:48:01.220 They would have attributed to guard Nimrod.
00:48:04.620 So whatever Esau is, he's managed to do something that's pretty...
00:48:10.940 It's unbelievable.
00:48:12.500 Yeah.
00:48:13.920 Now, I worded it, you know, it's like you had this hairy quote-unquote man battling to the death with Nimrod and two more Nephilim giants
00:48:23.300 for the supernatural garments from the Garden of God.
00:48:27.440 I mean, that's...
00:48:29.060 Do you know how...
00:48:30.120 Beat that, Marvel.
00:48:31.300 Do you know how terrifying a Sasquatch with a sword is?
00:48:36.400 Like, holy shit, dude.
00:48:39.320 That's horrifying.
00:48:40.720 He's talking shit to you, like, through telekinesis.
00:48:42.980 You're like, oh, God.
00:48:43.540 He's just lobbing trees down on the way to get you.
00:48:47.180 Man.
00:48:47.820 It's like the Highlander, you know.
00:48:49.300 Both of these men's claim to fame was that they were the mighty hunters of the field.
00:48:55.440 And it said Nimrod had been watching Esau and jealousy had built up and envy.
00:49:00.740 And so he finally just went to the woods with these men.
00:49:03.300 It was like, I'm going to kill this hairy beast of a man and show the world who the true mighty man is.
00:49:09.560 It was like the Highlander.
00:49:11.020 You know, there could only be one, baby.
00:49:13.460 Let me ask you a question.
00:49:14.900 This might...
00:49:15.380 It's going to derail again.
00:49:16.580 But Cain and Abel, that is a story of two brothers as well.
00:49:22.120 Is there any...
00:49:22.800 Like, are there any Nephilim details involved in this?
00:49:25.320 Because it never quite...
00:49:27.240 Like, again, you get to the point where you're like, Abel made a sacrifice to God and God was like, great.
00:49:32.380 I like that.
00:49:33.340 And then Cain didn't.
00:49:34.380 God was like, this is garbage.
00:49:36.080 I don't like this.
00:49:36.880 And then this, like, next verse, don't worry about that.
00:49:41.060 Anyway, he kills this guy.
00:49:42.320 I'm like, what does that mean?
00:49:44.480 Like, what was going on there?
00:49:46.840 Well, there's another book that a buddy of mine has written.
00:49:51.420 And it was called...
00:49:52.540 Let me think.
00:49:54.260 It was called Answers to Giant Questions.
00:49:57.160 And in there, he talks about how the wording in the Hebrew makes it out to where Abel was basically the first human sacrifice.
00:50:09.120 And when you read the wording of that, it says that the ground opened up its mouth to receive the blood of Abel.
00:50:16.580 Well, when you go and you read the ancient texts, it talks about this god of death.
00:50:23.440 And his name was Mot.
00:50:24.860 Is this it?
00:50:26.080 Yeah.
00:50:27.240 Okay.
00:50:27.720 And Mot, it talks about that his lip would drag the ground.
00:50:33.640 And his upper lip would eat the clouds, that he had such a hunger for death that it couldn't be quenched.
00:50:43.100 And the way it's worded in the Hebrew, Tim says that he thinks that Abel was the first human sacrifice to this god, Mot.
00:50:52.700 Because it talks about the ground opening up its large mouth and receiving this blood.
00:50:57.860 And then when God shows up, he says, the blood of your brother cries out from the ground.
00:51:04.280 You know, what have you done?
00:51:06.280 So, once again, this kind of goes back to Genesis 3, 15, the whole seed war once again.
00:51:11.960 And it's like he was trying his best to provide for his family and his people and get the blessing of God.
00:51:23.480 And he wasn't getting it from God.
00:51:25.880 So, maybe he went to another god that promised to bless him and do these things for him.
00:51:34.040 And when you go to the Jewish Targums, you get more detail on that.
00:51:38.100 Whether it's true or not, it's what they believed and it was their oral tradition.
00:51:42.840 Was that Cain, when it talks about he got this marking, when you read, his name is Rashi.
00:51:49.080 He has done his own translations of the Targums.
00:51:52.940 He's done commentary on the Torah.
00:51:56.240 And he was a French medieval rabbi.
00:51:58.460 And a lot of people look to him.
00:52:01.960 But he says that Cain's marking was that he was covered in hair, like a hairy beast.
00:52:09.780 And he was even given a horn.
00:52:11.960 And that's why he was so afraid of being killed.
00:52:16.240 Because not only was he having to worry about the men wanting to kill him because he looks like this hairy monster.
00:52:24.660 Also, the beasts of the field would come after him because they seen him as a threat.
00:52:29.120 And then when you go down through, you have this story of Lamech.
00:52:34.300 Well, Cain says, you know, he says anybody, basically the way we read it and interpret it was anybody kills you is going to be cursed times seven.
00:52:41.520 Well, when you get on down to Lamech in Genesis now.
00:52:45.860 Well, at one point it says Lamech comes into his wife and says, if Cain was cursed times seven, then I'll be cursed 70 times seven because I killed a man and in my anger struck down a youth.
00:52:58.520 And that's basically all you hear about it.
00:53:01.580 Well, the Targums give you more details on that story.
00:53:05.080 And the Targums say that in his old age he was going blind.
00:53:10.140 So he had his younger son go with him on the hunts.
00:53:13.580 And his son would lead him and point the way.
00:53:17.180 And if there was an animal up ahead, he'd say, you know, father, hold your bow, you know, like this.
00:53:22.000 And it would basically guide his weapon and help him hunt.
00:53:26.000 And the young son mistaked Cain for a wild beast and that Lamech killed him.
00:53:34.340 And then when Lamech got close enough to see what it was, he seen that it was his descendant Cain.
00:53:39.780 And in his anger, smote his younger son for the mistake.
00:53:46.560 And so when he goes back home, that's the feel-in.
00:53:50.140 He says, you know, I've killed a man and in my anger I struck down a youth.
00:53:54.440 He killed his son and he killed Cain.
00:53:56.920 But Rashi, in his translations of the Targum, says that that was a huge miscommunication and misunderstanding.
00:54:05.000 God didn't say whoever kills Cain is going to be cursed times seven.
00:54:08.960 It was saying that the revenge of Abel's blood would come to Cain times seven.
00:54:18.060 So what that means is the seventh generation from Cain would be the one to take revenge for Abel on to Cain.
00:54:28.340 And when you count that lineage, Lamech is the seventh from Cain.
00:54:38.960 See you later.
00:54:40.020 Bye.
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00:54:42.320 Bye.
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00:55:02.380 Bye.
00:55:02.900 Bye.
00:55:03.580 Bye.
00:55:04.660 Thank you.
00:55:34.660 Thank you.
00:56:05.340 But the reason I was giving it was like, it's a type of sacrifice he's giving.
00:56:08.860 But I'm like, I don't really know what that means.
00:56:10.820 That also brings me to a question where, what's the conventional explanation for Esau's birthright?
00:56:21.660 Like, what do they say?
00:56:23.340 Because I wasn't brought up in a church, so I've only ever had, like I said, the Mike Heiser point of view.
00:56:30.720 What is the church's conventional explanation for what Esau's birthright would have been?
00:56:35.580 What did he trade for this soup?
00:56:40.020 Well, according to the church and the majorly accepted view was that it was just the blessing of the estate.
00:56:48.380 Like the carrying on the family name and getting the lands and all that.
00:56:55.900 That's what it was.
00:56:56.900 Oh, so like a sort of like a conventional inheritance.
00:57:00.560 Maybe something.
00:57:01.140 Okay, okay.
00:57:02.860 All right.
00:57:03.180 And so here you have Esau basically verbally agreeing because we can assume that he sustained some life-threatening injuries from fighting these three men.
00:57:16.120 He was on the run from the other military that was chasing after him.
00:57:21.920 He thought that he was going to die, so he needed not only to be nurtured back to health, he needed to be hidden.
00:57:29.340 And he thought that, you know, the injuries he sustained didn't kill him.
00:57:33.360 The guards and the people that were hunting for him were going to.
00:57:36.220 So when he tells Jacob, you know, give me some of that red stew, basically it's kind of like allegory of saying just, you know, give me sustenance, you know, heal me, give me, you know, and preserve me and hide me.
00:57:51.720 And because without you doing this, I'm going to die and my birthright is meaningless.
00:57:56.160 So just take it.
00:57:57.640 So basically he verbally agrees, but he does it in a state of fear and panic.
00:58:04.060 And once he, you know, survives and lives through, this was just a verbal agreement between brothers.
00:58:12.100 I think he had no intentions of giving him the birthright.
00:58:16.520 It seems that way.
00:58:17.880 He lied to him.
00:58:18.760 Because, yeah, when you get to the actual part where Isaac is dying, he calls his son Esau, whom he favored.
00:58:28.080 And he says, go out to the field, my son, get a fresh kill, prepare me a delicious meal one more time.
00:58:36.900 I'd like to taste of your game before I die, and I'll give you your blessing.
00:58:42.100 So Esau takes off.
00:58:44.080 Well, Rebecca was standing outside the tent and heard this.
00:58:46.820 So when Esau leaves, she goes to her son and says, go kill a young goat, bring me the meat.
00:58:55.840 I will prepare a delicious meal for your father.
00:58:58.040 You go in, pretend to be Esau, and get the blessing and the birthright.
00:59:03.300 And Jacob's scared to death.
00:59:05.400 He says, no, mother.
00:59:06.560 And he says specifically, I am a smooth man.
00:59:09.680 And he wasn't hairy like his brother.
00:59:12.820 He said, if the father finds out that I'm trying to trick him, I will receive a cursing instead.
00:59:19.380 And she says, do as I tell you.
00:59:22.240 And if a cursing comes, allow it to fall on my head.
00:59:26.440 It will be my cursing.
00:59:27.620 Just do as I say.
00:59:29.420 So he goes and kills this goat.
00:59:31.540 And number one, goats, if you're a fiddle of a goat fur, it's coarse, it's hairy, it's oily, it's maddy.
00:59:40.740 So they take this, and it says that they wrap Jacob up in this goat's fur to fool his father.
00:59:47.900 So the people that want to say, ah, he just had a long beard, that's what it was saying, no.
00:59:53.720 This wasn't hyperbole.
00:59:55.360 This wasn't metaphor.
00:59:56.880 For he was literally that hairy, like a Sasquatch, that he had to be covered in this goat skin.
01:00:03.820 And then it says, there's a little hidden nugget there most people miss, but it says that Rebecca goes and gets a garment of Esau's.
01:00:13.340 I think Rebecca knew about the garments from the Garden of God, went to Esau's house, stole the garments.
01:00:19.740 So she put on this fur on Jacob, and then put on Esau's garment, and he goes in, and he feels of his arm, and he feels the hair.
01:00:29.160 And he says, ah, my son Esau, you know, you're so hairy.
01:00:32.480 And then he even makes a comment about his smell.
01:00:34.680 He says, you even smell of the field, my son.
01:00:38.060 He probably said that all the time to him.
01:00:39.760 That's just a, it's like, oh, man, come here, kid, you smell like shit.
01:00:42.800 But with the Sasquatch, you know what I mean?
01:00:44.340 You get all these stories about these phantom smells.
01:00:47.340 So a lot of this stuff lines up, and then he gives him the blessing.
01:00:53.820 So then he leaves.
01:00:54.940 Well, Esau comes back in.
01:00:56.840 He says, here, Father, here's your meal I prepared for you.
01:00:59.940 Now give me my blessing.
01:01:01.740 And he said, I've already given you your blessing.
01:01:04.580 And Esau's like, no, you didn't, Father.
01:01:07.140 And then they realize that they've been tricked, they've been duped.
01:01:11.240 And Esau immediately starts crying and begging his father.
01:01:14.280 He says, well, please, Father, do you have another blessing for me?
01:01:17.720 And he says, no, son, I've given everything to your brother.
01:01:21.640 And Esau just remorsefully cries.
01:01:24.120 So to me, that shows that verbal agreement that he made with Jacob, he had no intention of honoring.
01:01:31.160 I would agree with that.
01:01:32.500 What do you think, then, is the blessing that he was going to bestow?
01:01:36.540 How do you give that blessing?
01:01:37.620 It seems like almost like a ceremony that would have happened if he's physically given him something.
01:01:45.120 Yeah, it was basically, you know, it's ceremonial, but it's like holding the hand of the son and praying to God.
01:01:53.420 And you're saying, you know, God, all the blessings that you've given to me, pass this on to my son, all the favor you've given me, give to my son and bless him and provide for him and sustain him, you know, protect him from his enemies and this sort of thing.
01:02:11.880 And to our modern view, it's kind of like, you know, going to the lawyer's office and sounding the final paperwork and getting that stamp.
01:02:18.540 That's interesting because it, in my mind, based off of what we alluded to earlier in the episode that we discussed yesterday about the way that you communicate in the spiritual realm, it seems like that's the difference there between the blessings and potentially the curse that Jacob would have received had his father realized that Jacob had deceived him.
01:02:45.240 There's one where you're making a spiritual proclamation that whatever blessings had been bestowed upon you are now inherited by the son.
01:02:56.980 But if it was, you know, if he was made aware that he was being deceived, then it would have been a proclamation in the spiritual realm, something to his detriment.
01:03:08.240 Yes.
01:03:08.960 Okay, I can see that then.
01:03:10.320 Yep, and then a lot of people want to, they wonder, it's like, well, this was the birthright and this garment, it's basically like your mother's, you know, quilted blanket.
01:03:22.500 You know, I'm from the South, so that was a thing back then, you know, which I don't know, people still may do it, but it's like your grandmother had this blanket that was her great, great, great, great, great grandmother's.
01:03:32.500 And it gets passed to the eldest daughter, and it just keeps traveling down the line, and that's kind of how these garments were.
01:03:40.040 So a lot of people were like, well, how did Nimrod even wind up with these garments?
01:03:44.420 Well, once again, if you go to the book of Jasher, it gives the lineage that that garment traveled down, and it went through the good line.
01:03:52.740 It went all the way through until it got to Enoch, and then Methuselah, and then Methuselah gave it to Noah, and it says that these garments were on the boat with Noah and traveled through the flood.
01:04:06.420 And then it says that in Ham's going out, Ham steals the garments, and then gives them to Cush, and then Cush keeps them and gives them to Nimrod, and it says that Nimrod was the son of his old age, whom he loved exceedingly, and that at the coming of age, when he was coming into manhood at 20 years old, that he put on the garments, and that he became a gibberim.
01:04:35.520 And that ties in with Genesis, because it says, it doesn't say that Nimrod was born a mighty man or a mighty hunter.
01:04:43.720 It says that he became, so a lot of people ask the question, well, how did he become a Nephilim?
01:04:52.600 Was it ceremonial sacrifice, drinking of blood, ritualistic?
01:04:57.460 You know, it might have been a combination of all those things, but the Jewish tradition pointed to these garments at least being a contributing factor to him becoming a gibberim.
01:05:10.080 There's something that I think is significant here, which is if Esau is of that serpent seed, him having a battle to the death with Nimrod is interesting because Nimrod, who becomes gibberim, which we don't understand necessarily the ramifications of that.
01:05:32.620 Does that mean somehow that his genetics are changed in such a way as to make him aligned with the Nephilim, aligned with this serpent seed?
01:05:42.000 If that is the case, well, then what we've seen here is infighting in a house, right?
01:05:48.960 The house of the serpent seed, there's infighting in that you could make an argument they should be aligned in some sort of way, but clearly not the case.
01:05:59.080 Now, I seem to not – I don't find any instances of immorality attributed to Esau, meaning like the story of Esau, as short as it is in the Bible, there's no mention of him being immoral or behaving immorally, which is kind of what lends itself to making me feel a little bit empathetic to Esau's plight, right?
01:06:20.040 Because it looks like he just got shafted every which way.
01:06:23.240 And since there's no background to like, oh, but it's okay, Esau was a bad dude, you know, that kind of makes me feel a little –
01:06:30.760 Yeah, even his dad's like, he's like, get in here, you stinky asshole.
01:06:34.300 Like, I'm giving you a blessing.
01:06:35.740 He's like, look, you don't even feel like crap.
01:06:37.480 Like, yeah, Esau's kind of like chill, but he just was born under very bad circumstances.
01:06:43.760 So what this makes me wonder is because they're – look, I – and this is heavily speculative, but I told you we were going to derail you.
01:06:55.000 When it comes to Bigfoot sightings, because for those of you who haven't picked it up, there's certainly this element that feels like – I mean, he's a gigantic dude.
01:07:02.360 He's killing Nimrod.
01:07:03.820 He's killing two of his personal guards with a sword.
01:07:07.100 This guy has to be a real son of a bitch, right?
01:07:10.700 And when it – when you have that element, right, of whether or not he's a Bigfoot – well, you look at Bigfoot today, and it's like sometimes the interactions that people allegedly have with Bigfoot today, they're not inherently horrifying or menacing.
01:07:28.560 Sometimes they're positive.
01:07:29.800 Sometimes it seems to be – yeah, sometimes they seem kind of chill.
01:07:32.520 And I'm wondering, like, is there a – an element within this bloodline that it's like a breakaway kind of serpent seed?
01:07:45.840 Like, anecdotally, there's a story of a woman who was interacting with a Bigfoot for a long time in her yard, having telepathic communications with it, which is interesting.
01:07:55.020 And what ends up happening is, at some point, it reveals to her that it is a – I forget the expression.
01:08:03.780 An Eliud.
01:08:04.900 An Eliud, and he's looking for redemption.
01:08:07.940 Now, that doesn't sound to me like something that is aligned with the serpent seed.
01:08:14.200 It sounds to me almost like something that unfortunately is but is still seeking redemption.
01:08:20.380 So I just wonder when you hear this story of Nimrod being slayed by Esau and Esau having no precedence that we can see for immorality, maybe – maybe that bleeds in.
01:08:36.000 Maybe that's why you get this, like, plight of the Bigfoot where it doesn't seem like they're bad guys, but it seems like they're associated with bad guys.
01:08:43.460 And maybe some of them are, but some of them aren't.
01:08:45.660 I don't know.
01:08:46.160 Does that resonate with you?
01:08:47.460 Well, further with that story, you know, that was Bo Kennedy from the Bump podcast, and he talked to that woman several times.
01:08:55.440 And this woman was not a well-educated woman.
01:08:59.960 She was not well-versed in the Bible.
01:09:02.680 She even mispronounced what this word was.
01:09:05.760 She didn't even know it, never even heard it before.
01:09:07.540 And after talking to Gary Wayne, he found out that Eliud is referenced in the ancient texts, and it's referenced as being the offspring of the Nephilim.
01:09:18.580 Now, the angelic being had the Nephilim, and the Nephilim produced these Eliuds.
01:09:23.700 But this Eliud was being, you know, friendly to her, and they were gifting and all this stuff, but then he tried to mislead her.
01:09:35.380 He told her that the Bible that they had was wrong, and that it was full of lies, and that she needed to be reading the Nag Hammadi texts.
01:09:46.980 The Nag Hammadi.
01:09:49.660 What culture does the Nag Hammadi belong to?
01:09:51.980 It's a Gnostic gospel where it's saying that Christ was just a normal man, but he had spiritual enlightenment, and that we all basically—
01:10:02.980 He became an ascended master.
01:10:04.540 Yes, and all that stuff, and drinking psychedelic drinks and taking these spirit journeys, and that's how they can interact with God and just the whole Gnostic viewpoint.
01:10:16.140 So it was kind of like being—it played nice to gain her trust and then tried to lead her astray.
01:10:23.140 You say that all the time.
01:10:24.660 It's the 99 truths, one lie.
01:10:26.380 That's why I'm so skeptical of the Jordan Petersons and the Russell Brands who are out there doing the Lord's Prayer just after going to ditty parties and, you know, other nefarious activities.
01:10:36.860 So I'm like, I'm waiting for the lie, for that one big, you know, turn you this way.
01:10:41.460 Okay, very interesting.
01:10:42.380 In the Romans, you know, where it talked about, you know, in Esau I hated, you know, God is a God of love, and we're all his children.
01:10:50.680 You know, he doesn't hate any of us.
01:10:52.160 So to me, for him to say that, that points to Esau not being a child of God.
01:10:58.700 It's of a different seed.
01:11:00.300 And in that same context, it calls Esau sexually immoral.
01:11:07.760 And I was like, in the Bible, it don't say anything about him being sexually immoral.
01:11:12.620 But when you read the context and the genealogies, after, you know, he was screwed out of his birthright, he goes into full rebellion.
01:11:22.540 And he takes three wives.
01:11:26.220 Two of those wives are Hivites and Horites.
01:11:30.880 And if you guys follow Gary Wayne, he lays it out perfectly.
01:11:36.600 That, beyond a shadow of a doubt, these were Nephilim giant clans.
01:11:40.240 So here you have this hairy, quote-unquote, man marrying and interbreeding into Nephilim giant clans.
01:11:50.520 And, once again, that guy Rashi that I talked about, when you read his commentary of the Torah and the Targums,
01:11:59.420 when it says the people of Exodus come in and conquer the Holy Land to kill every man, woman, and child,
01:12:07.080 and how a lot of atheists use that, you know, as, oh, your God's a genocidal maniac.
01:12:12.640 Well, no, all the tribes and peoples that were listed that they were to attack and kill every man, woman, child, and animal
01:12:19.480 were Nephilim giant tribes.
01:12:21.700 God was, you know, trying to eradicate that bloodline, or in the very least, knock it down enough
01:12:29.000 to where his people could have a fighting chance.
01:12:32.860 And Rashi says that these giant clans were known to be sorcerers.
01:12:39.940 And here you have your first mention of skinwalkers.
01:12:43.480 Because Rashi says that they were shapeshifters.
01:12:48.740 That these people could morph into animals to evade capture.
01:12:55.020 And that is why God has said even kill the animals.
01:12:58.220 Because these sorcerers could morph into animals to evade capture.
01:13:05.040 That's something that's never left the sort of paranormal cultural zeitgeist either, right?
01:13:09.960 We still have this element of skinwalkers and things of that nature.
01:13:13.700 These Native American witch doctors that...
01:13:18.220 Animal-human hybrids.
01:13:19.680 Animal-human hybrids.
01:13:20.220 Animal-human hybrids.
01:13:20.980 And it's even...
01:13:21.980 I mean, that's something that has even punctured just the pop culture lore as well.
01:13:27.220 Like, we grew up with Animorphs, and there's no shortage of heroes that can morph into animals.
01:13:31.940 Ninja Turtles.
01:13:33.180 Yeah.
01:13:33.480 I mean, this is something that is so intrinsically tied into the human experience that it bleeds
01:13:39.760 into cartoons, it bleeds into actual, you know, mythology and lore of certain areas.
01:13:46.920 This is something that we've just never let go.
01:13:48.900 It's probably for a reason.
01:13:50.580 Mm-hmm.
01:13:51.260 And then...
01:13:51.760 But his third wife...
01:13:53.080 So here, if you think about that, you have this Harry, like I keep saying, Harry quote-unquote
01:13:57.080 man, breeding with Nephilim giant tribes.
01:14:00.780 And then his third wife, he goes to Ishmael and takes his daughter.
01:14:16.740 So for those that don't know, these two men are in the exact same situation.
01:14:24.200 Ishmael was Abraham's firstborn son.
01:14:28.180 And Sarah, in her old age, thought that she couldn't conceive.
01:14:32.460 So to try to make the Lord's prophecy come to pass, gave him Hagar, which was her handmaiden.
01:14:40.680 And Hagar was acquired while they were in Egypt.
01:14:43.760 Hagar was of a royal bloodline.
01:14:47.840 She was a princess, an Egyptian princess.
01:14:52.500 So they conceive, and they have Ishmael.
01:14:56.680 And then later, Sarah miraculously conceives Isaac.
01:15:02.100 So Ishmael was the firstborn, the eldest, which should have inherited the birthright.
01:15:08.980 But Sarah becomes jealous of Hagar and Ishmael and tells Isaac...
01:15:16.300 I'm sorry, tells Abraham that they have to go.
01:15:20.400 Load them down with food, water.
01:15:22.760 Give them a few servants and some livestock.
01:15:25.500 That way they can, you know, make it on their own.
01:15:28.180 But they're kicked out of the camp.
01:15:30.420 So they're pushed out.
01:15:32.620 So here is Esau, the eldest, who was disinherited and screwed up his birthright.
01:15:39.520 Goes and marries his uncle's daughter.
01:15:44.840 And his uncle was also the eldest brother, who was disinherited.
01:15:51.380 So you have the joining of these two people.
01:15:54.660 And you can imagine the hatred that was sown into this family and into this bloodline.
01:16:00.680 Because both of them were the eldest brother.
01:16:03.120 Both of them were screwed out of their birthright.
01:16:04.840 And they hated the chosen line, the chosen seed, which is God's people.
01:16:10.580 And when you trace the genealogy, all of your Muslim nations, all of your religions and people groups from the Middle East
01:16:19.660 that absolutely hate Israel and God's chosen people, all trace their lineages back from this union.
01:16:28.660 Once again, it all goes back to Genesis 3.15 and this seed war.
01:16:38.140 That's a heavy...
01:16:38.980 So that would lend them...
01:16:40.700 That would mean that they are Nephilim themselves, this line.
01:16:45.960 Yeah, it's just weaving in and out of the genealogy and through this bloodline.
01:16:51.140 And the theory of entropy tells us nothing gets better over time.
01:16:55.560 Things get worse over time.
01:16:56.880 So this gene pool has disintegrated over time.
01:17:00.500 And also interbreeding.
01:17:02.120 That's why the royals always slept with their...
01:17:05.300 The brothers slept with their sisters and they encouraged inbreeding to keep that bloodline pure.
01:17:10.160 But over time, from intermarrying regular humans and different types of people,
01:17:16.780 they have watered down that bloodline so much.
01:17:20.200 And like you talked about, there's serpent seed, Nephilim seed amongst us today.
01:17:26.400 They've just gotten better at blending in and they have degraded that bloodline so much.
01:17:31.340 It's the parable of the wheat and tares.
01:17:33.600 In that parable, it says that a landowner sown seed.
01:17:36.780 But in his absence, the adversary came in and sown his seed.
01:17:41.880 And the helpers noticed all the wheat growing amongst the tares.
01:17:46.840 And when you look at those two, if you ever Google search those side by side,
01:17:50.460 you can't tell them apart.
01:17:51.800 You can't tell them apart until harvest time.
01:17:54.380 And in that parable, the landowners, the servants say, should we pull up the tares?
01:17:59.760 And the landowner says, no, least you destroy the wheat in pulling up the tares.
01:18:06.060 No, let them grow together and come harvest time.
01:18:11.140 We will separate the wheat from the tares and throw the tares into the fire.
01:18:16.400 I think that that is an allegory of this seed war.
01:18:22.400 Is that an allegory for the rapture?
01:18:28.440 Or because we start to get into this weird...
01:18:30.440 I think it's judgment, the end times.
01:18:32.800 The wicked is cast into the fire.
01:18:35.120 The lake of fire, right?
01:18:36.400 But that doesn't just mean the wicked.
01:18:38.800 I've always read that scripture as like, yeah, the wicked, the people, they'll be judged.
01:18:43.080 If it's talking about bloodlines and you're talking about immutable characteristics,
01:18:47.220 that just doesn't quite matter.
01:18:49.600 This show struggles with that a bit.
01:18:51.520 We have some guy come on and this guy, Dustin Nemos,
01:18:54.680 and he's telling us about these kind of bloodlines.
01:18:57.400 And I was like, yeah, but, you know, is there any repentance for them?
01:19:00.940 And I know that there's been writings between priests before, like a thousand years ago,
01:19:05.040 where they're writing back and forth, talking about these dog-headed men.
01:19:07.740 And they're saying, are they eligible for salvation?
01:19:11.420 And it's like 50-50.
01:19:13.020 Some are like, yes, some are like, no.
01:19:15.300 And it's a hard pill still for me to swallow, even though I'm hearing this many times.
01:19:19.080 But it's like, well, so there's just a group of people or whoever we see out there just not eligible for salvation.
01:19:26.200 Their genetic DNA is made up such that they cannot receive this blessing.
01:19:31.240 It's kind of, but then you have Jesus coming back, but he's dying for all men, right?
01:19:36.540 Where do you put this?
01:19:37.540 With me, I mean, and once again, this is just another conjecture thing.
01:19:43.020 You know, and God says, you know, his ways are not our ways.
01:19:46.740 His thoughts are not our thoughts.
01:19:49.140 But I personally would see, you know, you can't control who your parents are.
01:19:58.560 I would like to think that, let's just say, if you trace back my DNA and somehow they could trace this and figure it out,
01:20:08.140 that, you know, Esau or someone that was a known serpent seed was, you know, my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, you know, granddad.
01:20:17.880 So I have a trace of Nephilim bloodline in my body, but I lived a good life.
01:20:24.660 I accepted Christ as Lord and tried my best to live a good life and follow the teachings of the Bible.
01:20:32.480 That would be pretty shitty if I got turned away for something that I didn't control.
01:20:37.520 And I think our God is a loving God and is all about choices and free will.
01:20:44.460 So even the Nephilim that were damned, you know, it says they shall have no peace, you know, and all this stuff.
01:20:51.940 Well, if you look, it wasn't just their heritage that damned them.
01:20:56.640 It was their actions, that they were cannibals.
01:20:59.700 They were, you know, raping and pillaging and doing all these evil and wicked things.
01:21:03.920 On the episode that we did yesterday, and I know I keep referencing it, but it just seems oftentimes that we'll do a show and it'll key so well in to the next show that we do that they bleed over into one another.
01:21:18.160 But we were getting into this topic of spiritual warfare and how one engages in that with speech.
01:21:27.500 And going back to what we said before, it seems that even God will ask things of man, but he will tell things to spiritual entities.
01:21:36.860 And one of the things that we've come to terms with is it seems that the way that you engage in spiritual warfare is with the word, is with speech.
01:21:46.680 And it's fascinating, then, that these entities that people run into, whether it's a Bigfoot or it's, you know, some sort of alien or a demonic encounter, you name it.
01:22:02.080 These things exclusively communicate telepathically.
01:22:07.440 And that seems to be important, given the context of what I just said.
01:22:12.340 What do you think about that?
01:22:14.320 Because certainly within the Bigfoot community, it seems that these encounters, whatever dialogue there is, happens almost exclusively telepathically.
01:22:27.100 Yeah, with me, and I've had people, you know, listen to my theory on ESOL and being, you know, a Bigfoot or at least a type or some kind of similarities.
01:22:38.720 They immediately will try to shut it down on the argument that, well, what about the woo?
01:22:45.560 They say, you know, all these Bigfoot experiences all revolve around portals, mind speak, UFO phenomena.
01:22:55.000 So, therefore, it can't be human, so it can't be ESOL.
01:22:57.840 And then I tell them, I'm like, but, you've got to look at the holistic picture that I'm telling you here, that if he was a serpent seed, that means he was of a hybrid being, hybrid race, Nephilim.
01:23:11.280 So, when you read the book of Enoch, the book of the Watchers, it says that they were neither of heaven or of earth, so therefore their spirits have nowhere to go.
01:23:23.120 So, their spirits remain roaming and tormenting mankind.
01:23:28.300 And that's where you get the term demons from.
01:23:30.980 So, if that is the case and you have, you know, Esau or whoever that is a Nephilim seed and their spirits are left roaming, would they not want to, in fact, choose a form that is familiar to them?
01:23:51.200 They were once roaming the earth as these huge giants, hairy, you know, Sasquatch-looking guys, and it commanded respect.
01:24:00.860 It commanded fear and dominance, and it's something they're familiar with.
01:24:04.980 Why wouldn't they want to present themselves in their former form?
01:24:08.560 And if they are demons, then that explains them being able to phase in and out of reality.
01:24:13.440 And if, you know, these UFOs are angelic beings, whether still good or rebellious, this is their vehicle of conveyance.
01:24:27.600 And so, they would be correlated, especially if they are fallen ones, with the demonic offspring.
01:24:35.240 So, let's get back on track then.
01:24:40.380 What happens to Esau for the remainder of this, and what happens to the garments?
01:24:47.380 Well, these garments, you know, before Nimrod got them where we left off, and I think it's worth mentioning because this is a paradigm buster, and it was for me when I first found out, was it says that Noah had them, and it said that Ham stole them in his going out.
01:25:03.500 And that's how Nimrod ultimately wound up with them.
01:25:06.800 So, if you go with the Bible in Genesis, we have the famous uncovering thy father's nakedness.
01:25:16.380 And this is the story where Noah gets drunk and passes out, and the way people remember it is that his father passed out drunk, and Noah, or I'm sorry, Ham looked upon Noah and either made fun of him or laughed or just stared lustfully.
01:25:30.880 Anyway, Noah wakes up and curses his son, and the name says, Cursed be Canaan, which was Ham's firstborn son.
01:25:40.780 This is the church's conventional outlook on it, right?
01:25:44.080 Yeah.
01:25:44.360 It's just that either he made fun of him.
01:25:47.020 He was drunk.
01:25:47.700 Yeah, and then he just was so upset when he woke up that he cursed him, which is interesting because we're talking about birthrights and curses.
01:25:56.800 These are both things with heavy spiritual ramifications.
01:26:00.180 So, yeah, he just laid a spiritual curse on him because he saw him naked and made fun of the size of his dong.
01:26:06.540 Okay, go on.
01:26:07.420 So, reading that, I was like, that makes no sense.
01:26:10.960 It's like, so if I'm at school and I get off the bus and my dad has gotten belligerently drunk until he passed out naked, and I happen to see him, or even if I do make a catty joke about him or something,
01:26:23.360 and I'm going to be cursed for the rest of my life, and my firstborn son is going to be cursed for the rest of his life, that's pretty harsh.
01:26:31.540 I wasn't the one that got drunk and done something embarrassing.
01:26:36.100 Why would I be cursed?
01:26:37.320 That makes no sense to me.
01:26:38.420 But once again, the context of the people of that time, it's so important to know, is if you go into Leviticus chapter 17, it says in there,
01:26:50.620 to sleep with thy father's wife is to uncover thy father's nakedness.
01:27:00.200 And this was an act of dominance in the ancient world.
01:27:04.380 Reuben slept with his mother.
01:27:06.340 And then if you look at Absalom, which was David's son, he run David out of the kingdom, and the first thing he done is he pitched a tent on David's roof
01:27:16.700 and went into all of his concubines in the sight of all of Israel.
01:27:21.260 This was a way to flex on the old man in the ancient times and do a hostile takeover of the family.
01:27:27.240 So with that in mind, it's like Ham, either his mother willingly slept with him or he raped her, one of the two.
01:27:40.400 But either way, he slept with his mother in an act of dominance, wanting to take over the family.
01:27:46.640 And now this part, this right here, this little section is my conjecture.
01:27:51.560 It's almost like he done that and he went out to his brothers and he said, dad's not fit to rule anymore.
01:27:58.540 He's drunk.
01:27:59.680 He just drinks till he passes out, makes stupid decisions.
01:28:03.140 He's unfit to rule.
01:28:05.260 I just done this thing.
01:28:07.220 If you guys go do it too, it'll be three on one.
01:28:10.480 He can't take us all on and it's our time to rule.
01:28:14.800 But they refuse.
01:28:17.020 So the biblical context, it says that they take a garment, place it on their shoulders and walk backwards and cover their father's nakedness.
01:28:26.740 And then Noah wakes up and then he says, you know, cursed be Canaan.
01:28:34.780 And he said, and Ham, a servant to thy brothers, you shall be.
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01:30:07.460 So, if it was an act of dominance, he was trying to be the ruler of the house, have everybody serve him.
01:30:14.900 The cursing makes a lot more sense now, because it's been flipped on its head.
01:30:19.120 No, you're not going to be served.
01:30:20.980 You're going to serve instead.
01:30:23.100 But then it says, cursed be Canaan.
01:30:25.520 Canaan is Ham's firstborn son.
01:30:28.360 If you follow it chronologically, Canaan wasn't even born yet.
01:30:33.220 Now, once again, my opinion, I think what happened is where it says that Noah, you know, awoken from his drunkenness.
01:30:42.640 It doesn't say that it was just that day, we assume.
01:30:46.560 You know, what if it was like an expression of him saying, well, once he got off the bandwagon, once he got out of AA, you know, this might have been several months.
01:30:57.380 But once he finally decided to, you know, quit drinking and being, you know, belligerently drunk every day and passing out drunk, he realizes that his wife is pregnant and that they're going to name it Canaan.
01:31:11.040 And he's like, whoa, this ain't mine.
01:31:14.400 And he's put it all together.
01:31:16.500 And he says, cursed be Canaan, because it is the product of the incestuous union of Ham and his mother.
01:31:23.900 And this is where the Nephilim giants end up stemming from these Canaanite tribes and why they're cursed from God and why all the Abrahamic religions, you know, back then in the Old Testament said, you know, to not take wives from the Canaanites because of Ham.
01:31:42.320 They were a cursed people.
01:31:44.400 But when you look at the original language, it doesn't say a garment.
01:31:50.120 It says the garment.
01:31:51.900 They took the garment and covered the mother's nakedness.
01:31:58.140 That answers a lot of questions because now you're so you're getting into the idea of, well, in the book of Revelation, when it talks about that woman, then it says that the nations have fornicated with her.
01:32:07.680 It's like a spiritual sex.
01:32:09.120 It's not just cheating on your spouse.
01:32:11.800 It means there's there's a spiritual implication.
01:32:14.080 This sounds a lot like fornication.
01:32:16.580 What obviously what he did with his mom is disgusting, but it sounds like a little bit more because and how frustrating like you build this arc and all these Nephilim are killed from the earth.
01:32:26.840 And obviously you're drinking because things are probably weird and stressful.
01:32:31.880 Yeah, you're depressed.
01:32:33.360 Yeah, dude.
01:32:33.840 It's it's got to suck.
01:32:35.260 It's got to be it's a it's a hard cup to bear.
01:32:38.040 And then your son, your son's like, hey, guys, I just bang mom.
01:32:41.940 You guys want to like bang mom?
01:32:43.300 And then he bangs your wife, your son bangs your wife and then restarts what you just tried to avoid.
01:32:50.460 Yeah, it's that's horrible, dude.
01:32:55.100 It's crazy.
01:32:57.060 And then the just the the corruption of this this bloodline and the serpent seed and all these things.
01:33:05.720 When you go into Exodus, I found this very, very wild because nobody makes up a rule or a law unless somebody broke it or done it before.
01:33:16.860 Right.
01:33:17.380 Or it would make no sense.
01:33:19.000 And so when you get to the Exodus wanderings, Moses is leading his people to the wilderness.
01:33:25.240 That's where you get a lot of your do not do this, do not do that.
01:33:28.620 So I think if we look at those, it's telling of the people that they were encountering.
01:33:36.460 Esau, some of these Horite and Hivite tribes that he married into it in the genealogies, it mentions this guy named Seir.
01:33:46.580 And they dwelled next to this mountain called Mount Seir.
01:33:51.660 On Hebrew, that word means Harry.
01:33:53.640 So there's already a telltale and that's out into the wilderness there.
01:34:00.140 So Moses is in the wilderness wanderings and he gives all the laws.
01:34:05.760 And remember, some of them were do not drink the blood, the life forces in the blood.
01:34:12.440 It says do not seek sorcerers.
01:34:15.420 Do not seek necromancers or mediums.
01:34:18.700 Do not pass your children through the fires for Molech.
01:34:24.980 And then it says no longer will you sacrifice to hairy goat demons.
01:34:31.620 Incredible.
01:34:32.960 That's the foundation for all these things.
01:34:35.800 You've got vampires.
01:34:36.820 You've got sorcerers.
01:34:37.760 You've got child sacrifice.
01:34:39.060 You've got Baphomet.
01:34:39.780 It's the best book in the world.
01:34:40.680 It's all right there.
01:34:41.780 It's the foundation for all the things that we're literally wrestling with to this day.
01:34:46.900 Yeah.
01:34:48.380 And then in Isaiah 41, it talks, you know, when you read the Greek translation, it talks about these cursed lands and these cursed cities.
01:34:57.360 And it says, and there the satyrs will dance and the lilith will make her nesting place.
01:35:06.260 And all these, I think, are talking about these peoples and entities that they were having encounters with in their wilderness wanderings.
01:35:17.200 And God's people were seeing it.
01:35:19.520 And they were obviously trying to replicate it or practice what they were doing.
01:35:24.360 And that's why Moses had to make these laws.
01:35:26.560 So here they are in this land of Seir that are known Nephlems that bred with Harry, you know, people like Esau.
01:35:37.980 And then Esau's nephew was this guy named Amalek or Amalek.
01:35:45.400 And he had a whole tribe of people named after him called the Amalekites.
01:35:50.120 When Hebrew, that name means the blood lickers.
01:35:52.560 So, and these were the first tribe that was documented to have an encounter with God's people in their wilderness wanderings.
01:36:02.580 And they attacked them.
01:36:03.640 So it's my opinion that while they were in this wilderness and in their wanderings, were having encounters with these Amalekites and these hairy, you know, quote unquote giant men.
01:36:17.320 And they were observing what they were doing.
01:36:19.680 And they were doing child sacrifice, passing the children through the fire.
01:36:24.380 They were drinking the blood.
01:36:26.620 They were seeking the dead and were sorcerers and mediums.
01:36:30.640 And we know that from Rashi and the other commentaries.
01:36:35.480 And it says, you know, no longer will you sacrifice to hairy goat demons.
01:36:40.000 Isaiah talks about the satyrs and that they would dance.
01:36:45.920 These were the families and the interbreeding and the offspring of Esau with these giant clans.
01:36:52.760 And these were what these people were doing.
01:36:55.120 And God's people was trying to replicate it.
01:36:57.680 And then you have in the Day of Atonement, they take a goat and cast all the sins on it.
01:37:03.900 And they called it a Zazel.
01:37:06.960 And cast it off a cliff into the wilderness.
01:37:10.340 All this goes back to these goats, these hairy satyrs, these Nephilim giants.
01:37:15.300 And there's common themes throughout history because I believe this was the origin point.
01:37:21.220 When you go to, you know, Europe, you have this ancient legend of Krampus.
01:37:29.000 Krampus was this hairy demon looking guy.
01:37:31.760 And what did he do?
01:37:32.460 He abducted children.
01:37:33.400 Then you go down to the island of Sardinia.
01:37:37.420 On the winter solstice, they have this custom that they still do today.
01:37:41.720 It's called the methones or the methanes.
01:37:44.180 They cover themselves from head to toe in black goat's fur.
01:37:48.880 And then put bells all over their shoulders and backs.
01:37:51.960 And then they paint a wooden mask and they wear that over their face.
01:37:55.200 And would abduct women.
01:37:59.340 They would dance to the streets and abduct women.
01:38:02.440 And the children that are of age, coming to age, their ceremony is that they would light a huge bonfire.
01:38:10.120 And to prove their bravery would have to pass through the fire.
01:38:15.160 Everything goes back to this culture.
01:38:17.840 Do you know, like, there's parts in the Bible where, I forget the people, but they're trying to atone for whatever they've done.
01:38:27.240 Or maybe they're suffering and they put on, they put on like a cloth that's very itchy.
01:38:33.820 They put that on their back and it'll say like they wail.
01:38:37.320 Do you know what I'm talking about?
01:38:38.980 Yeah.
01:38:39.340 Do you think that that is to, like, almost like to emulate these people that were around them?
01:38:46.160 Like, they were, that these Nephilim, like, I'm going to put this on and be as low as them as I'm, like, suffering through this.
01:38:53.820 Like, what was that about?
01:38:55.320 Yeah, I don't know.
01:38:56.140 I've never thought about that.
01:38:57.160 I always just thought about it as it was just very uncomfortable.
01:39:01.740 So they'd done, you know, the most uncomfortable thing that they could think of to put on weird clothes.
01:39:08.320 Atone, you know, for their sins.
01:39:11.880 But, yeah, I never thought of that.
01:39:13.280 But I think I need to deep dive into that because, yeah, it's like put on, just putting on weird clothes is not enough to atone for what, you know, horrible thing you've done.
01:39:23.500 And it's the exact opposite of the garments from the Garden of God.
01:39:26.460 And that's another common theme.
01:39:28.160 Jason and the Argonauts, you know, that goes off the story of the Golden Fleece.
01:39:33.360 Well, in that story, there's a man and a woman that was commanded to be sacrificed by Zeus.
01:39:41.180 Athena sends them this golden ram, and it flies them to safety.
01:39:46.340 But it lands in the, before it lands, the woman falls and dies.
01:39:52.620 And they land in the Garden of Ares, and Athena tells the man to sacrifice the ram, and that that would appease Zeus, and he could live, that the ram would be the substitute for the sacrifice.
01:40:06.340 So they sacrifice the ram.
01:40:08.220 They cut off the golden fleece, and they hang it on a tree in the midst of the Garden of Ares, and a great serpent guards it.
01:40:16.480 And it was the symbol of kingship and authority.
01:40:19.540 And you go back to Isaac and Abraham.
01:40:21.780 Abraham was commanded to sacrifice his son.
01:40:24.900 Well, last minute, what happens?
01:40:26.600 God provides a ram in the thicket as a substitute for the sacrifice.
01:40:33.580 Marduk, his creation story, talks about these tablets of destiny that Kingu, who was unrightful, because they were all creations of Tiamat.
01:40:44.700 Well, Marduk was the older son.
01:40:47.980 Kingu was the younger one.
01:40:49.700 But she ends up breeding with Kingu, and makes Kingu her son and husband.
01:40:54.920 And she puts on him the coverings, the tablets of destiny.
01:40:59.040 And once Marduk defeats Tiamat, he takes Kingu as his slave and as his servant.
01:41:06.480 And it says in there specifically, he removes the tablets of destiny from Kingu, because he was undeserving.
01:41:13.620 So you have all these common themes of all these different stories throughout culture.
01:41:19.540 And it all stems from an ancient point, in my opinion.
01:41:23.820 We have about 15 minutes left.
01:41:27.780 And I really want to get to what happens to these garments.
01:41:33.840 Is that the last time that we see them?
01:41:39.300 And certainly, maybe we can speculate a little bit as to where they might be today.
01:41:43.920 Yeah, the last time that they're documented is with Joseph, because Joseph, you know, he steals the birthright.
01:41:56.680 His mother steals the garments from Esau's house and puts them on Jacob.
01:42:02.000 So Jacob has them.
01:42:04.360 And later in life, the same verbiage is used, where it says that Cush had Nimrod in his old age, and Nimrod was the son of his old age, whom he loved exceedingly, and he gave the garments.
01:42:17.140 You have that exact same phrase with Joseph in his older age.
01:42:21.980 Or Jacob, I'm sorry.
01:42:23.080 Because Jacob gives the garments, which we know he was in possession of, it says that he gave his son Joseph a coat of many colors.
01:42:33.520 And once we hear, you know, the jasper, onyx, diamond, you know, topaz, all these multicolored stones that was on this garment, it was definitely colorful.
01:42:43.100 And it matches the trading of it.
01:42:45.680 It says this was the child of their old age, whom they loved exceedingly.
01:42:48.600 And once he gives Joseph this coat of many colors, it is at that time that all kinds of supernatural stuff starts happening with Joseph.
01:42:58.700 Joseph starts getting dreams.
01:43:01.000 It says that the wheat in the field bowed to Joseph, that his brothers, all 12 brothers, or 11 rather, bowed to him.
01:43:12.900 And that even the stars of heaven, you know, the angelic race, the quote-unquote lower G gods, even bowed before Joseph's feet once he received the garments.
01:43:25.180 So the last time that we see is that he was out in the field to go get his brothers, and they conspired to kill him.
01:43:33.360 And it says that they ripped a piece of the garment and dipped it in blood and traded him to the traders that were going to Egypt and comes back to Jacob with the blood-soaked garment.
01:43:46.940 So we don't know if it was the full garment or just a piece of the garment, but it says that they brought that to Jacob and said, Joseph is dead, like a wild animal tore him to pieces.
01:43:57.820 This is all that remains.
01:44:01.020 What a bunch of retards.
01:44:03.220 Yeah, and archaeologists actually have found in the ancient city of Avaris a temple tomb of a high priest, which was a known Semite settlement, an empty tomb.
01:44:14.480 And was it, say, when Moses left Egypt, he took the bones of Joseph with him.
01:44:19.600 But in that empty tomb, they found a statue that was shattered to pieces.
01:44:23.300 It was painted with yellow skin.
01:44:25.060 That's only a Semite thing.
01:44:26.500 Egyptians didn't paint their statues with yellow skin.
01:44:29.380 But on his shoulder was a coat of many colors.
01:44:34.280 So even the archaeology backs up this story.
01:44:38.680 But we just have no idea where it went after.
01:44:41.260 It's just probably in the Vatican.
01:44:44.480 Or you never know, a piece of it might be woven into some of these royals garments or robes or something.
01:44:54.740 Right.
01:44:55.180 That's actually something that we came across with the Shroud of Turin.
01:44:57.940 We did an episode with the Cult of Conspiracy guys.
01:44:59.840 And allegedly at some point it was pieces of it were cut off and given as like essentially party favors at these, you know, these gigantic royal gatherings.
01:45:13.340 And so who knows what idiotic thing may have happened to it.
01:45:16.860 But there is also this other side of it where it's like if it is in the Vatican, there are so many ancient artifacts that were seemingly very powerful.
01:45:27.680 Right.
01:45:28.000 You have the garments or maybe even the Spear of Destiny that Hitler seemed to be seeking at some point.
01:45:37.120 There's also the Ark of the Covenant.
01:45:39.380 The sword that David used to – he took from Goliath and cut off his head.
01:45:45.380 There's a lot of speculation as to whether or not that sword had some sort of special properties to it.
01:45:50.200 And I just can't help but wonder, I mean, so much of the things that are the cornerstone of mythology or good fiction that we watch or absorb here in the West, the cornerstone of it is often this amazing artifact.
01:46:08.440 Here's a great idea.
01:46:09.960 Guy goes to Goodwill, buys this great jacket, and then all of a sudden his life is flipped upside down because it happens to be the garment of Adam.
01:46:16.940 It's not a bad film.
01:46:18.100 I'd watch that film.
01:46:18.840 There's a patch sewn inside of the stuffing that was hidden away in ancient times.
01:46:23.840 Yep, exactly, exactly.
01:46:25.480 So, I mean, it's a shame because, you know, I believe there's going to come a time where so many of these things will come to light.
01:46:32.400 But right now it's like so many of these stories and artifacts, they just lead to this dead end, and we're left here in 2024 to speculate.
01:46:44.220 And it really is a shame if it is like people think it is.
01:46:49.740 And in the basement of the Vatican, there's just endless things.
01:46:51.260 Well, it's the excitement of the hunt, man.
01:46:52.620 It is, it is.
01:46:53.540 The Bible says it's the glory of God to conceal a thing, but hey, it's the glory of kings to search things out.
01:47:01.680 Very interesting.
01:47:02.820 I love that.
01:47:03.640 I love that.
01:47:04.340 I think that's a good place to leave it.
01:47:05.840 But honestly, I feel like we have, we have Ed Mabry coming up in a couple of minutes, but I feel like we could do another hour and a half, like just on whatever from here.
01:47:15.080 I'd love to have you back on if you're not busy sometime in the future.
01:47:19.280 Oh, no, man.
01:47:19.800 Yeah.
01:47:20.400 I'd love to come back on.
01:47:22.340 Great.
01:47:22.840 Well, then let's wrap it up here one more time, Justin.
01:47:26.980 First off, thank you for your time, and thank you for sharing that all with us.
01:47:30.080 It's incredibly fascinating.
01:47:31.640 I was very excited to do this episode, and I think we nailed it.
01:47:36.720 So go ahead and let everybody know where they can find your work if they want to support you.
01:47:42.440 Yeah.
01:47:43.120 Thanks for having me, guys.
01:47:44.180 Hope you enjoyed that, and if you enjoy this conversation, you are going to enjoy the podcast.
01:47:49.720 Every episode is like this, deep diving into ancient history and mythology and just connecting dots, man.
01:47:56.160 And I've kind of coined it the hero's journey.
01:47:59.320 You know, I tell everybody that we go into the unknown, we slay the dragon, we rescue the damsel, and we come out on the other end as heroes.
01:48:08.540 And I open up every show saying, welcome to the hero's journey.
01:48:12.760 So I'd love to have you guys join us on this journey.
01:48:16.280 Yeah, man.
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01:48:23.080 I'd love to see, like, people like this be able to do this.
01:48:26.000 I don't know what you do as a job, but if you could do this full time to help uncover what's really going on, that would be great.
01:48:32.320 But instead, we're paying for OnlyFans, girls.
01:48:35.360 You're buying stuff you don't need.
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01:48:38.300 Come on, people.
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01:48:40.760 Right, right.
01:48:41.800 Well, guys, definitely.
01:48:42.540 I got a full time job.
01:48:43.740 I'd love to do this full time.
01:48:45.120 So, yeah, help me out.
01:48:47.220 Well, I'm glad that you're putting 10 years of research to some sort of use.
01:48:52.640 And I think there's a lot more that we could talk about.
01:48:55.060 So you're absolutely invited back on the show.
01:48:57.740 You have an open door policy.
01:48:58.700 So we will visit this again.
01:49:01.500 Guys, go and support Justin over at Prometheus Lens Podcast.
01:49:05.980 Is there anything else that we have, Top?
01:49:08.280 See you in 10 minutes with Ed Mabry.
01:49:10.380 Peace out, guys.
01:49:11.060 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner of the room.
01:49:17.780 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
01:49:21.540 It's you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.
01:49:26.140 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.
01:49:34.460 And they have.