Nephilim Death Squad - TIME CAPSULE： How Did NDS Begin？

00:00:00.000 We are being hypnotized by people like this, newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:00:10.780 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:00:19.220 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely

00:00:24.320 Oh yeah, dude, there's some Nephilim shit.

00:00:27.500 It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the

00:00:31.840 home of the brave.

00:00:33.300 These motherfuckers are controlling this now, and no one's talking about how they made us

00:00:37.000 hard to be slaves.

00:00:38.420 And everybody's just walking around, heading to clouds, and won't awake until we're dead

00:00:42.420 in the grave.

00:00:43.660 But it's too late, we need to be ready to raise up.

00:00:46.460 Welcome to the end of day.

00:00:48.220 Everybody is slaves, only some are aware that the government releases...

00:00:52.100 Well, well, well.

00:00:54.880 Here we are again.

00:00:55.720 Another episode of the Top Lobster Show.

00:00:59.520 And this is going to be a simulcast or a swapcast, however we want to call it.

00:01:03.060 You were actually messaging me before that you kind of wanted to do like a big conglomeration

00:01:09.900 of the meeting of minds of retarded people and have like a really cool mixing of whatever

00:01:18.660 we believe and whatever we think.

00:01:20.340 And I think that that's a good idea.

00:01:21.500 So this could be the start of something really cool.

00:01:25.000 I'm excited.

00:01:26.200 I'm joined by David, host of The Raven's Watch.

00:01:29.280 Tell us a little bit about yourself.

00:01:30.600 I'm sure that a lot of my audience has probably seen me retweet you at least.

00:01:36.200 Yeah, I appreciate that, by the way.

00:01:38.080 It's always nice to get a little love from people that you respect.

00:01:41.300 So I have been a podcaster for probably like seven years, but I stuck primarily to comedy

00:01:48.200 and I was always immersed behind the scenes in sort of conspiracy theories and the paranormal

00:01:54.580 and I never pulled the trigger on it.

00:01:56.760 And I think I was just kind of being a bitch about it and I didn't want to...

00:02:00.420 I thought it wasn't going to be well received.

00:02:01.920 So I figured instead of harassing like my immediate family about, you know, the Illuminati and lizard

00:02:09.660 people and Bigfoot, that I would finally take to the internet and do it.

00:02:13.460 And so far it's being well received.

00:02:14.920 So The Raven's Watch is a combination of people who are experts in their field, whether it be

00:02:22.220 something occult or esoteric, something conspiratorial, or people who have had personal experiences

00:02:29.400 that are paranormal or supernatural.

00:02:31.920 Nice.

00:02:32.940 Speaking of, so this, my show doesn't really cover the conspiratorial as much.

00:02:38.040 What are your thoughts on Maui?

00:02:40.860 What's going on in Hawaii?

00:02:43.100 So Maui, for sure, you know, you had Biden just kind of use that verbiage of laser focus,

00:02:50.880 right, when he's talking about the whole Maui situation.

00:02:53.760 And then you have this weird shit where Mountain Dew, right, Dew being an acronym for direct energy

00:03:00.980 weapons.

00:03:01.540 And they've got all these cryptic kind of apocalyptic flavors, you know, whatever it's

00:03:07.500 code red or Maui burst or something like that.

00:03:11.100 So as far as I'm concerned, it looks to me like they they leveled Maui and they're going

00:03:17.260 to turn it into a smart city.

00:03:18.780 And these people like Oprah and these these big named elites, they've already got their

00:03:23.920 claws in the corpse of Maui.

00:03:26.180 It's still smoldering and they've already got plans for it.

00:03:29.260 And if you watch the videos, man, these people are all saying the weirdest shit.

00:03:32.640 I know it's easy to Photoshop a beam of light, you know, next to a fire or a burning building.

00:03:38.340 So I can't say definitively that those pictures are real.

00:03:42.120 But you you combine that with how, you know, we just gave Ukraine billions of dollars and

00:03:49.100 all of a sudden we can't do anything but give these poor people in Hawaii seven hundred bucks.

00:03:53.380 And I think that it's just clear the board and let the elites move in.

00:03:57.720 And I think that's what's going on.

00:03:59.180 I did see that the seven hundred dollars is like it's like I guess their version of

00:04:04.120 the little stimulus check.

00:04:05.200 You're like, hey, you know, hold that.

00:04:06.120 You could buy some spam with that or whether the fuck you guys do in Hawaii.

00:04:09.520 Man, you know, it really that one got my conspiracy bone going because I really I've been I've

00:04:15.620 been like not drawing away from it, but like just more interested in other things.

00:04:20.660 But I do see this stuff and I saw that and I was like, oh, like I want to believe everything

00:04:25.460 they're saying about it, but in the end of the day, it could be direct energy weapons.

00:04:29.480 It could just have been a natural disaster and, you know, compiled with everything else

00:04:34.540 like all the other bullshit and bad planning that happened.

00:04:37.140 But what's definitely true is it's a money grab or a land grab, at least like you were

00:04:40.780 saying that I know for sure in the end.

00:04:43.400 So we'll see how this all plays out.

00:04:45.820 I'm I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure that those people are going to be screwed.

00:04:49.100 And we were actually talking about Owen Benjamin before in the chat, but he brought up a

00:04:53.800 good point. These were the same people that were horrible on covid that were just rule

00:04:58.720 followers. Get the vaccine, do what they say, wear the mask.

00:05:04.000 And now look at how that's repaid you.

00:05:06.520 So it's kind of I'm not I wouldn't celebrate it, but it's kind of like, all right, I'm not

00:05:13.940 going to come out to really defend you either.

00:05:15.580 Take your 700 bucks and and go to fucking New York or wherever they're going to fly you

00:05:20.480 to next. That's it.

00:05:22.320 Yeah, I used to live in Las Vegas and when I was in Vegas, there was a bunch of people

00:05:26.700 that would often protest about just kind of the there was a lot of I don't know what

00:05:32.280 you would call it, people leaving Hawaii because of how expensive it got.

00:05:36.600 And these folks were out on the on the corners with picket signs and they're talking about

00:05:40.460 the price of everything and how bad it's gotten and how, you know, basically Hawaii is becoming

00:05:45.560 the sanctuary for the elite.

00:05:46.980 They're buying up all the land, they're driving up the prices of everything and they're driving

00:05:50.860 the locals out.

00:05:52.200 And I don't know, man, that's kind of the last straw on the camel's back.

00:05:55.640 I think the locals are out.

00:05:56.940 I think that's it.

00:05:58.620 Yeah, they burned they burned them.

00:06:00.660 If you don't leave after that, that's like after the Jewish space lasers, you're like,

00:06:06.240 yo, you know what?

00:06:06.820 I think I'm going to rebuild somewhere else.

00:06:09.680 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:10.600 When Mountain Dew has plans to level your farm and it comes true, it's time to slide, I think.

00:06:16.520 It's just so incredible.

00:06:17.800 And you know what?

00:06:18.500 I believe the Mountain Dew thing.

00:06:20.080 I saw I saw something else about Trump recently with the Space Force.

00:06:24.300 And I'm just like, hold on.

00:06:27.240 You know what, man?

00:06:28.200 Sign me up.

00:06:29.060 I'm like, I'm ready to fucking put that back in my veins.

00:06:33.060 It's been three years since I've heard any any kind of crazy ass conspiracies like this.

00:06:38.280 And I'm just like, you know what?

00:06:39.260 At this point, whatever.

00:06:41.020 Let's I like the crazy ones, man.

00:06:43.960 I see you.

00:06:45.020 You're kind of, you know, in this in the trenches with a broadsword, swinging it around in these

00:06:50.760 kind of political corners.

00:06:52.220 And I like what you do because it's really just dunking on people.

00:06:55.220 But like, I can't even be in the political realm.

00:06:59.180 The jargon is so fucking boring.

00:07:01.760 I just want I want Mountain Dew satellites shooting lasers at Hawaiian people.

00:07:08.420 That's what I want that more than I want to listen to shit about Biden.

00:07:12.760 You know, I have my my politics that I listen to, but I don't talk about it because it's

00:07:17.500 fucking it's so boring.

00:07:18.740 I want lizard people, man.

00:07:19.960 I want cool shit.

00:07:21.100 I don't want fucking Biden falling up and down the stairs.

00:07:24.140 I want Nephilim.

00:07:25.400 I want fallen angels.

00:07:26.380 I want the days of Noah.

00:07:27.700 This shit.

00:07:28.080 You're right.

00:07:28.400 It's boring.

00:07:29.740 It's so boring.

00:07:30.900 That's what sometimes they still come to my Twitter page and they're like, hey, top,

00:07:34.340 what do you think about the non-aggression principle?

00:07:36.300 And I'm like, why?

00:07:38.120 Why are you asking me?

00:07:38.960 Have you not been seeing what I've been doing lately?

00:07:41.400 It's completely schizophrenic.

00:07:43.020 And my body of work has been tremendous the last year.

00:07:46.100 And you're going to ask me about what I think about this, this new policy.

00:07:50.440 I don't care.

00:07:51.320 Like, I agree.

00:07:52.440 I'd be drinking Mountain Dew right now.

00:07:54.120 Look, I'm drinking Canada dry.

00:07:55.600 I hate Canada, but I'd be drinking Mountain Dew right now if they put their fucking name

00:07:59.740 on their their space laser and said, yeah, we did it and we'll do it again.

00:08:03.340 I'd be like, hell yeah.

00:08:04.880 If they came out, dude, and they admitted it, I'd have to just off a principle.

00:08:08.060 I'd have to go and grab a code red because just just the balls that it tastes to go like,

00:08:11.820 yeah, dude, we've been putting all that Mountain Dew money into space lasers.

00:08:14.840 And we did what we said we were going to do.

00:08:16.560 You just didn't read the cans.

00:08:18.200 I'd be like, fuck, man.

00:08:19.580 That's a revelation of the method.

00:08:21.520 We burned it.

00:08:22.080 Wasn't it extreme?

00:08:23.060 You'd be like, yeah, it was kind of extreme, actually.

00:08:26.260 I like that.

00:08:26.880 It's fucking gnarly.

00:08:28.560 Oh, yeah.

00:08:28.900 That's on brand for me.

00:08:30.440 But all right.

00:08:31.660 Enough of the small talk, man.

00:08:33.260 We you have some you have some like really interesting stories.

00:08:37.580 We we've been talking for a long time before I started the show, maybe even before you

00:08:40.920 started your show.

00:08:41.800 So you were just like interested in some of the what I've been like, I like what you're

00:08:45.580 putting down.

00:08:46.040 I was like, I like what you're putting down.

00:08:47.520 So you were telling me some stuff and I kind of want you to get into it.

00:08:50.940 And let's go wherever this conversation goes.

00:08:54.100 I know you have a couple of story, a couple of stories, but I want to hear what you're saying.

00:08:58.760 Take your time.

00:08:59.880 Tell the story.

00:09:00.560 And I might interrupt you because I might have some questions.

00:09:02.900 So tell me what's going on in your life.

00:09:06.460 What has happened to you?

00:09:07.360 So I never really looked at my life as being very paranormal, right, until I started doing

00:09:16.140 the show and I laid out a couple of stories on the first episode.

00:09:20.300 And I think what happens is there's so much space between events that you don't look at

00:09:24.660 your life as being supernatural or, you know, having these experiences.

00:09:29.120 But when you put them all next to each other and you get rid of all the gaps of time in between,

00:09:33.300 you realize like, OK, yeah, maybe shit was a little weird.

00:09:35.300 So as far as I can remember, you know, some of my earliest memories were of strange things.

00:09:42.880 My grandmother, she was a medium and she had sort of crystal balls and things of that nature.

00:09:51.800 And I would find out later on in life that she she thinks she was abducted by aliens on

00:09:58.420 a regular basis since childhood.

00:10:00.100 And it really, you know, deeply disturbed her.

00:10:03.560 But I used to live in this house in Elizabeth, New Jersey, and it was the first house on

00:10:10.700 Rawway Avenue.

00:10:11.800 For those of you that don't know, Rawway Avenue was like the main road in Elizabeth.

00:10:15.640 And this house was old, man, like really old.

00:10:19.260 It looked like a castle when I was a kid.

00:10:20.840 I'm sure now it doesn't, although it's a fucking lawyer's office now.

00:10:24.380 When I was a kid, it was creepy, you know, big pine trees in the front, casting shadows

00:10:30.520 constantly on the house, lion statues in the front entrance and everything about it was

00:10:36.440 real old.

00:10:37.320 And I have this aunt and we would later find out that she was schizophrenic.

00:10:43.100 So in that context, this makes a little bit more sense.

00:10:47.240 But one day I'm hanging out, my aunt is watching me and her two kids, and she tells me, I must

00:10:55.920 have been like four or five years old.

00:10:59.220 She tells me to go and get the silverware drawer, which is a weird request, but I remember it

00:11:05.580 really well.

00:11:06.100 And so I'm, I go to the kitchen and I kind of work the drawer out.

00:11:13.240 And as I'm walking back to her, all of a sudden I hear a woman's voice, but I don't hear it

00:11:22.660 with my ears.

00:11:23.580 Like I, you know, it was so clear that I knew that I hadn't heard this with my ears.

00:11:28.100 And this story stayed in the back of my mind.

00:11:31.020 I'm 33 now.

00:11:32.220 And so I think I finally made the cut for like, if schizophrenia was going to be a thing,

00:11:37.200 I'm fucking good now.

00:11:39.760 But I was worried, man, for, for a long time that I was going to have some sort of episode

00:11:43.620 because of this.

00:11:44.300 So I hear this, this woman's voice.

00:11:46.820 Is that really like, like the science behind it?

00:11:49.300 Because, or is that just bro science?

00:11:52.340 We're just saying, let's go with that.

00:11:53.520 It's got to be bro science, but it's, it's my understanding that there is a window from

00:11:57.420 like 23 to like, I think it may be like 29 or 30, something like that.

00:12:04.060 And if I'm off, it's only by a couple of years.

00:12:06.160 And it's basically where if you have a propensity for schizophrenia, then it's going to manifest

00:12:12.780 within that timeframe.

00:12:14.880 And also if you have a, you know, latent schizophrenia, even smoking weed can trigger it apparently.

00:12:23.000 So these are all things that I read because I was, I was afraid of this and I smoked a

00:12:28.180 lot of weed and that was on purpose.

00:12:30.560 It was for science.

00:12:31.300 I was like, I'm going to fucking find out if I'm schizophrenic, I'm going to fuck, I'm

00:12:34.540 smoking up weed.

00:12:35.180 I'm going to find out.

00:12:36.420 And nothing ever happened.

00:12:37.800 And so like, I can't even tell you like how much of a kind of relief it is because you

00:12:41.780 just, you never know because her kids, they got it.

00:12:44.780 And this is my mom's sister, you know?

00:12:46.380 So this voice, it's a woman's voice as I'm holding this drawer full of silverware and it

00:12:53.440 goes, uh, it just kind of without emotion, it goes, you're going to drop it.

00:13:01.300 And it was so loud and clear.

00:13:04.500 And I remember the very next thing that happened was kind of like, I don't know, this, this

00:13:13.420 noise, like a boom and reality became distorted and started to twist.

00:13:19.360 And I did drop that shit and the whole hallway kind of twisted and everything went dark.

00:13:27.140 I dropped the silverware drawer and my aunt pops up and she, as far as I'm remembering,

00:13:34.500 kicked the shit out of me.

00:13:36.020 Um, it wasn't like a super brutal ass whooping, but you know, I got like a spanking or whatever

00:13:40.380 for dropping the thing.

00:13:42.420 And so that house that I was living in, there was always these rumors that it was haunted,

00:13:47.680 especially after my grandmother passed, which was either that year or the next year.

00:13:51.300 Um, any kind of bump would be explained away as like, oh, that's just grandma.

00:13:54.940 She's just chilling, just stomping around upstairs.

00:13:56.940 And as a kid, you're like, it's soothing, but also, you know, disturbing at the same time.

00:14:03.580 Um, but that was kind of the earliest thing that I can remember.

00:14:07.300 And it was impactful enough.

00:14:09.520 And mind you, like I'm in a house where my grandmother thinks she's being abducted and

00:14:16.340 my aunt is schizophrenic.

00:14:18.320 She's, you know, told me shit where she's like, I see the devil and I can smell the devil.

00:14:24.780 And I'm like, well, what's the devil smell like?

00:14:26.560 And she said, uh, sulfur and, and rotting flesh or some shit like that.

00:14:32.400 Like, that's what she would tell me.

00:14:33.840 Uh, so there's a lot of weird shit going on there.

00:14:37.500 But you know, I will tell you, like, so you said you had, uh, like this kind of, uh, when

00:14:44.660 you dropped the silverware, you felt like the earth was like, like just morphing or I would

00:14:50.640 get that too when I was a, when I was a child, but, uh, I remember every time I I'd get it,

00:14:56.000 I'd be sitting there watching the Yankee game with my dad and my uncle, they'd be behind

00:14:59.840 me.

00:15:00.540 And I would hear like John Sterling or Michael K, whoever's talking.

00:15:03.860 And it would, it would turn into like this.

00:15:06.340 It's hard to explain.

00:15:07.560 It was like a morphing, like inner ear type of thing.

00:15:11.120 And it was very disorienting.

00:15:13.060 And it's one of those things where I'm like, either something like either I'm dying or this

00:15:18.960 just happens and that's fine.

00:15:21.780 But I, I, I'm not sure what to make of it, but it almost felt like, uh, like, like kind

00:15:27.880 of like hearing into like another, another dimension or it's like another, uh, a frequency

00:15:32.940 that I wasn't supposed to be hearing.

00:15:34.800 And, uh, as I got older, that stopped, I guess my third eye kind of closed, but it is

00:15:39.520 interesting to, to hear like, like that kind of experience come coming from someone else

00:15:44.400 could have been who knows.

00:15:47.980 Yeah.

00:15:48.620 Yeah.

00:15:49.040 You know, there's that old expression of like kids are more sensitive.

00:15:54.320 Yeah.

00:15:54.780 And so, and then you kind of said like, you know, your third eye closing.

00:15:57.820 I do think that something happens.

00:15:59.380 I don't know if it's the rigidity of society and, and sort of logic taking over the brain

00:16:04.840 that shuts that other part off.

00:16:07.480 Like, I remember I had a dream when I was a kid that I, I was, uh, glowing, like I had

00:16:12.900 a sheen to me, like a golden sheen.

00:16:15.180 And I was actually in Florida where I am now.

00:16:18.080 And I'm like climbing up this ladder into the sky.

00:16:21.420 And when I, I, I don't know if it was the same dream or if it was a separate day.

00:16:25.760 And I had another dream where I came back down, but I wasn't shiny anymore.

00:16:30.540 And the way I, I kind of quantified that, I was like, maybe that was, cause I was like

00:16:36.960 six when I had that dream.

00:16:38.140 It's like, maybe that's when logic kicks in, you know, maybe that's the beginning of

00:16:42.500 you kind of closing that connection.

00:16:45.120 Cause at some point it has to go away, right?

00:16:46.940 They say kids have this connection to the other side or the spiritual realm or whatever

00:16:50.240 it is.

00:16:50.720 And it doesn't last forever, clearly, unless you're some unfortunate dude who's still seeing

00:16:55.660 dead people.

00:16:56.440 But, you know, I think that maybe there is something that happens and I kind of equate

00:17:01.300 it to school.

00:17:02.080 It's like when you sit down in the rigidity of school and you finally give in, like, you

00:17:06.020 know, you're showing up here every day, you know, math is important now, you know, that

00:17:10.340 you have to read and you have to write.

00:17:11.920 And once you accept that, I think that's when it really starts to change for you.

00:17:15.920 But that's a, that's an interesting thought because, uh, school, school along with like

00:17:21.340 other kind of government, government programs, like, I don't know, maybe fluoride in the water

00:17:26.540 or the, the slow poisoning of your food or like, why, why would there be, uh, toxins in

00:17:33.340 a receipt that every time you grab it, it's just like increases your, it disrupts your endocrine

00:17:38.400 system.

00:17:39.880 There's no, there's no reason for it.

00:17:41.660 You can make paper and ink much cheaper.

00:17:44.260 It doesn't have to be toxic, but it's like, you start to really think like, it's probably

00:17:49.300 all is, you know, a concerted effort to, to, uh, cover that or, or thicken that, that veil,

00:17:56.340 you know, put another veil in between you and wherever you were as a child.

00:18:00.200 So maybe just like prolonged exposure to whatever they're shooting in the air.

00:18:04.280 It's like, that kind of closes you off.

00:18:06.600 I, I've been, I've been thinking about that a lot lately when you, when you think about,

00:18:10.200 uh, like fallen angels, Nephilim and, and what the point of what, what Lucifer is trying

00:18:16.400 to do here or what the devil is trying to do here is all he's trying to do is subvert

00:18:21.340 what God created.

00:18:23.020 That's the best he can hope for.

00:18:24.720 He can take some souls with them in the end.

00:18:26.640 He knows he won't win, but for now he could just make things as miserable as possible.

00:18:30.880 So every little drop of sand that kind of separates us from the spiritual world or, or that our

00:18:38.800 third eye staying open and kind of experiencing these other things, I'm like, you know, it's

00:18:43.860 the Jews, but it's, it's some, it's somebody there, but, but it's not, it's not all random

00:18:51.760 coincidence.

00:18:52.620 It seems like a concerted effort to constantly close, close people's eyes more and more.

00:18:58.520 And I, now, nowadays they've just gotten crazy with it where they're like, here, put

00:19:03.120 this poison, take a hamburger, you know, here's a hundred dollars or whatever.

00:19:06.320 It's like, it's just, it's ridiculous.

00:19:09.340 That's my, that's my theory.

00:19:11.360 So I think, I think you're onto something there.

00:19:13.780 Yeah.

00:19:14.220 You know, it's funny.

00:19:15.280 I won't even touch receipts.

00:19:16.700 Uh, I get mad.

00:19:17.740 Like I'll, I'll kind of like a psychopath.

00:19:19.720 I'll grab them, I'll pinch them.

00:19:21.220 And then I'll put the shit like in the plastic bag, you know?

00:19:23.820 And I get mad if the Walmart dude makes me pull it back out to show them when I'm like,

00:19:27.880 these are precious seconds, bro.

00:19:29.000 I don't know how long it takes for this shit to seep into my bloodstream.

00:19:31.320 I think what they're banking on is for you to put that bitch in your pocket and you know,

00:19:35.380 now it's pressed up against your leg and you're, you know, it's hot out and everything.

00:19:39.080 And so that shit is seeping into you.

00:19:40.360 But I think in regards to the whole, you know, uh, Satan's plan, I, when I was a kid, I became

00:19:47.500 so obsessed with conspiracy theories and I always had that problem of who is they, you

00:19:51.880 know, everyone would say that who's they, who's the they that's doing this, that's putting

00:19:55.620 chemtrails, that's doing that.

00:19:57.180 And it was like, you can't pin it down to one, uh, organization or something like that.

00:20:02.480 The only thing that would be able to execute a plan this well thought out and this, this

00:20:09.100 long of a game with this many elements at play, in my opinion, is the devil.

00:20:13.740 There's no way that you're, and I wasn't a religious person, uh, up until pretty recently.

00:20:18.400 Um, and it was because all this shit led me to believe that I'm like, there's nobody,

00:20:23.200 there's nobody, I don't care who it is.

00:20:24.520 Biden is not got the longevity.

00:20:27.340 He's never going to see the fruits of his labor, you know, from a, for a program or a

00:20:32.060 deception that started so long ago and that's still going on now and is still going to continue

00:20:37.400 into the future.

00:20:38.600 Men come and go, but, but something else doesn't.

00:20:41.460 Uh, yeah, it's, I mean, it goes back to the, to the garden of Eden.

00:20:45.520 It's like, well, what was the point of, of deceiving Eve?

00:20:48.020 It's just, it's just constant, constant, like, uh, inception, constant, uh, what's, what's

00:20:54.480 the correct word?

00:20:55.200 Just, just like throwing a monkey wrench in, in whatever humans are doing.

00:20:59.460 And God's kind of like, that's the interesting, interesting thing about God in my view, because

00:21:04.060 I, I, I was religious.

00:21:06.380 Then I kind of fell away from the church and then I sort of got back into it.

00:21:11.440 And, and, uh, in like 2018, when this is like all over the place, but when the IDW started,

00:21:17.280 remember that the dark web, intellectual dark web with all these people?

00:21:20.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:21.700 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:22.300 I, I kind of rejected Sam Harris correctly, kind of went the Jordan Peterson route, which

00:21:26.340 is why you have the top Lopsin name.

00:21:28.680 And, uh.

00:21:29.080 Yo, I was guessing that.

00:21:30.320 I guessed that.

00:21:30.960 I was like, this motherfucker read Peterson and this is a, a Peterson thing.

00:21:34.240 That's fine.

00:21:34.580 I only read one chapter, the first chapter, and I stopped it and I was like, that's the name.

00:21:38.200 That's it.

00:21:38.500 That's all you need to know.

00:21:40.300 I read that in the foreword.

00:21:41.440 I was like, I can't really read, but, uh, these ideas kind of got me drawn closer to

00:21:47.520 the idea of God because I was, I was very mad at the church.

00:21:51.260 I was, there's a whole thing.

00:21:52.520 I'll tell the story one day.

00:21:54.260 Um, anyway, so it got me back into God, but I was believing the Bible in a, in a, um, like

00:22:01.520 a metaphorical sense.

00:22:02.960 Whereas if you've ever seen any of, uh, Peterson's lectures where he goes through Genesis and

00:22:07.640 now I think he does Exodus as well, he breaks it down and you can really read every scripture

00:22:13.520 and he, and he, he breaks it down at a psychological level and it's fascinating.

00:22:17.440 And there's a lot that you could learn from that.

00:22:19.860 And I was like, oh, that's what the Bible is.

00:22:21.880 It's a, it's a thing that's here and it's lessons passed down.

00:22:26.140 So we should read them because they still pertain to today.

00:22:30.040 And I think I'm still right.

00:22:31.840 That is a hundred percent right.

00:22:33.300 Jordan Peterson is right.

00:22:34.500 Yes.

00:22:35.480 But I didn't believe that the Bible was a literal thing.

00:22:39.920 Like I was like, oh, Jonah in the belly of the whale, he would have surely been dissolved,

00:22:43.400 you know, by the stomach acids and all.

00:22:45.480 I was like, maybe, or maybe you're an idiot and this world is more fantastical than you can

00:22:51.140 imagine.

00:22:52.120 Maybe, just maybe, maybe my tiny little brain can't fathom.

00:22:55.820 What is possible?

00:22:57.060 Because God would want it to be possible.

00:22:59.920 So that kind of opened up my eyes to what, what we're doing here.

00:23:04.580 And I don't even know where I started.

00:23:05.980 So please pick me up.

00:23:07.140 I'm lost.

00:23:08.220 Well, no, bro.

00:23:09.540 It's funny.

00:23:10.160 Cause as you're saying that, I'm like, God damn, like we went through a very similar thing

00:23:13.660 because I was very much into Peterson.

00:23:15.780 I have 12 rules for life and then 12 more rules to antidote for chaos or whatever it was.

00:23:21.540 Um, and I very much bought into this idea of like, oh, the Bible,

00:23:25.820 is an amalgamation of allegories and metaphors that are, you know, very intertwined with

00:23:33.060 how to be in this realm, right?

00:23:35.840 In order to, what does he always say?

00:23:37.340 It's like, that's what's good for you, but it's good for your family and it's good for

00:23:41.100 your block and it's good for your community and it's good for the whole world.

00:23:44.060 Like you got to think in that sort of a way.

00:23:45.680 And so I could see that I subscribe to that too.

00:23:47.820 But then, um, I think another thing you and I have in common is, uh, uh, Tony Merkel who

00:23:53.120 does the confessionals.

00:23:54.140 And it's like the guy, once you listen to enough, uh, paranormal testimonies from people

00:24:00.060 and you start to see nuggets of consistencies, meaning like patterns, right?

00:24:05.700 These people, what did they share in common in their experience?

00:24:08.540 Well, there's a lot of elements that people who have paranormal experiences share in common.

00:24:14.020 And that starts to suggest that it's much less of a personal experience that's just caused

00:24:20.860 by, you know, your own psyche, uh, your own hallucinogenic state because you're in sleep

00:24:26.080 paralysis, whatever the hell it is, there's something else going on.

00:24:29.620 And that coupled with the whole, the symbolism is everywhere.

00:24:35.580 It's in the music.

00:24:36.800 It's, it's in the movies.

00:24:38.380 Uh, it's, it's all over Hollywood.

00:24:40.620 The elites are always signaling with these different symbols and you start to put these

00:24:45.060 things together in a pile on the floor and you stare at it and it's fucking pile is in

00:24:48.700 the shape of the devil.

00:24:49.680 And so, you know, if you, if you, if you have that side of the coin, well, then the other

00:24:55.420 side is, is surely real as well.

00:24:57.220 And so, yeah, I think where I deviate from Peterson these days is that now there's, it's,

00:25:02.120 it's an alchemical, uh, symbolic book and it, it does have these allegories and it does

00:25:08.820 have these metaphors, but I think it's incredibly sophisticated because it's several things at

00:25:13.620 once.

00:25:14.140 It's not just allegories and it's not just a historical telling.

00:25:17.980 It's, it is like people say like the Bible is alive and I used to be like, that is such

00:25:22.320 a fucking silly thing.

00:25:24.780 It's a book, bro.

00:25:25.940 But like, I see now what they mean.

00:25:28.240 It's not a one dimensional thing.

00:25:29.640 It's not just words on a page.

00:25:31.400 There is.

00:25:31.760 And then you take into consideration the numerical value of everything, right?

00:25:35.040 Like gematria and everything.

00:25:36.720 Oh boy.

00:25:37.180 Yeah.

00:25:37.820 And then it's like, holy shit, this, there's something really wild about this book.

00:25:42.360 And so, yeah, I think, uh, it's just funny to hear you say Peterson.

00:25:45.480 And it's funny because I, I did, I was like, is that what the fucking lobster thing is?

00:25:49.100 Is he, is he, uh, part of the dominance hierarchy?

00:25:52.280 I'm at the top of the baby boy.

00:25:54.260 There you go, bro.

00:25:55.440 I'm killing it up there.

00:25:56.360 So I want to get into one of these other stories.

00:26:00.680 Cause it's, you know, we got, uh, about 45 minutes left.

00:26:03.940 And so before, before you go, I wanted to bring up the Tony Merkel thing again.

00:26:07.820 And it was, it's, it's very interesting about that, that one guy, because my faith, I thought

00:26:15.580 my faith was good.

00:26:16.860 My faith is even stronger and, and it's not even from going to church.

00:26:20.600 It's, it's hearing that guy's testimony because he's, he's talking to all kinds of people and

00:26:25.360 he's still coming at it from this Christian point of view, rationalizing it in the, in

00:26:30.280 terms of, you know, in, in, in, under the lens of, of a Christian.

00:26:34.040 And it just makes the most sense of anything that I've seen.

00:26:37.880 And now, like, like, like you said, I've seen the other side of it and I know for sure

00:26:42.080 there's something more going on.

00:26:44.060 You know, people, people will be like, oh, we have to, you know, so hand wave the spirituality

00:26:48.100 aside.

00:26:48.760 There's what about this?

00:26:49.840 What about that?

00:26:50.320 And I, and I just look at them, I laugh or I'll mock them online because it's so obvious

00:26:55.480 now after, after COVID, it's like, this world is so completely spiritual.

00:26:59.440 If you don't know, if you're not sensing this now, it might be too late.

00:27:04.420 You might be one of those people that are just going to be lost in the ether.

00:27:08.720 You're behind, you're behind it.

00:27:10.400 But so go ahead.

00:27:11.340 Tell us more about your, your spiritual story, your journey there.

00:27:14.780 Well, before I do, I just want to say, I agree entirely with that.

00:27:18.040 And that last sentiment worries me a little bit, right?

00:27:20.080 Is it like, is the gate closed?

00:27:22.080 Can we get anybody new on the hook or are we only getting people that are already half in,

00:27:27.500 half out and then you can convince those folks?

00:27:29.360 Cause I, I do think that as things kind of come to a head, there, there's going to be

00:27:32.920 a huge body of people that just are going to deny shit, uh, until their last breath.

00:27:38.020 You know what I mean?

00:27:38.560 And I don't know what, that's why I'm happy to do the show.

00:27:41.280 I'm happy to do the Raven's watch because, you know, the, the whole job of the show is

00:27:45.540 kind of shine a light on the darkness and show people like there's a lot to all this.

00:27:49.280 And it's not just conspiracy theory.

00:27:50.640 It's not just meant to be thrown away.

00:27:51.940 And it's not just new age spirituality bullshit.

00:27:55.320 Like, no, there is a paranormal biblical context.

00:27:58.140 You can look at these things through, but, um, so one of the real big things that I would

00:28:04.160 say, this is a huge one for me.

00:28:05.500 It felt really personal.

00:28:06.880 It felt like, um, this was one of the first things that showed me the world is way stranger

00:28:12.100 than I had imagined.

00:28:13.840 And, you know, as a teenager, uh, I, I can't speak for everybody, but I feel like I can speak

00:28:18.700 for like teenage dudes.

00:28:19.740 We want like mystery and adventure.

00:28:21.880 We want, we want pussy.

00:28:22.960 We want weed and we want mystery and adventure.

00:28:24.420 Right.

00:28:24.880 And so I had this, this set of circumstances show up on my doorstep one day and it felt

00:28:32.100 like this big call to adventure.

00:28:33.640 So when I was a kid, um, my mom dated a guy, he was basically my stepdad.

00:28:40.720 They stayed together for nearly 10 years.

00:28:42.500 Um, and his mother was for all intents and purposes, my grandmother.

00:28:48.440 She was an awesome lady.

00:28:49.660 Her name was Barbara.

00:28:50.340 And she was like, to this day, my moral compass.

00:28:52.300 Like she really was focused on raising me into a good person.

00:28:58.540 And she had this story that she would share with me.

00:29:02.360 Uh, and it's funny, it's actually one of the things I noticed in your, in your first episode

00:29:06.740 with your aunt.

00:29:08.420 She, she dropped something.

00:29:09.520 I had to hit you up.

00:29:10.180 I was like, bro, this is, I know what she's talking about.

00:29:11.920 Um, so basically she would tell me these stories about, and they're not, she said that that's

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00:30:47.500 I think she said that the hat was slightly smaller, but yes.

00:30:51.780 There's variations to them.

00:30:53.980 I had like a dude on just yesterday, and then I had another person on episode four, and they

00:31:00.020 described this guy.

00:31:01.260 He's similar, but he has a slight outfit change.

00:31:04.540 But a lot of people that are in the paranormal kind of world are familiar with this term.

00:31:11.420 But he used to tell me, or she used to tell me stories of the hat man.

00:31:14.020 So what would happen to Barbara, and this is pre-internet, right?

00:31:17.360 We didn't have the ability to go and find a community of people who had these experiences.

00:31:21.760 She didn't know anything.

00:31:22.520 There was books written about it or nothing like that.

00:31:24.180 She was an old school lady, Polish lady from Elizabeth, New Jersey, just tough as nails,

00:31:29.400 but had fucking weird stories.

00:31:30.720 So she would tell me these stories.

00:31:32.900 She'd wake up in the middle of the night, and she'd be unable to move.

00:31:36.080 And she'd be filled with terror, and there would be a man standing in her room, if he's

00:31:43.020 in the doorway, if he's in the corner of the room, if he's at the foot of her bed.

00:31:47.540 It's always the same dude.

00:31:49.660 And it's this guy in sort of a duster coat and a wide-brimmed hat, kind of like a fedora.

00:31:56.460 Not quite a cowboy hat, somewhere in between.

00:31:58.400 And you couldn't see his face, and you couldn't see any features, really.

00:32:03.040 You could just see the silhouette.

00:32:05.060 And so she would tell me these stories.

00:32:07.060 They were fucking horrifying.

00:32:08.280 I was like eight years old.

00:32:09.700 I have an eight-year-old now.

00:32:10.960 I'm not telling him this shit.

00:32:12.940 But she didn't have any reservations.

00:32:14.640 She told me.

00:32:15.920 And one of the stories in particular was about how one night she had a sister, and they shared

00:32:22.760 a room, and in the same night, they saw the entity.

00:32:26.740 So they didn't communicate with each other, because what would happen was they would often

00:32:30.900 kind of just be frozen in fear with the blanket over their face, and they'd stay like that

00:32:36.680 until either the sun came up, or they fell asleep.

00:32:39.960 So they weren't really, like, popping their heads out and being like, do you see this shit?

00:32:43.320 Like, they were terrified.

00:32:44.780 Yeah.

00:32:45.040 And they're talking about it one morning at the breakfast table, and they're kind of doing

00:32:50.240 it in hushed tones, and I think it's just, you know, they probably thought their mom was

00:32:54.440 going to dismiss it or something like that.

00:32:55.920 And then suddenly the mom chimes in, and she says she saw it too in the same night, separate

00:33:03.080 bedroom.

00:33:04.120 So as a kid, I don't take this in a, not that I had the ability to, but I certainly didn't

00:33:11.160 take it in a psychological way.

00:33:13.240 You don't see a thing and then have two other people confirm it, and one of them is your

00:33:17.900 mother in the next bedroom over.

00:33:19.220 You know, so to me, this is a real thing, and she said she saw it into adulthood.

00:33:25.420 So fast forward a little bit to about 16 years old, and my mom and this guy are no longer

00:33:33.540 together, and I'm talking to an aunt of mine.

00:33:38.320 And she's saying that my grandmother, who passed away when I was six, she used to have these

00:33:45.260 episodes where this bright white ball of light would rise up in her bedroom window at night,

00:33:52.600 and she'd be unable to move, and she'd start screaming for her mother.

00:33:57.080 And by the time mom got upstairs, the light would go away as if it was playing a game

00:34:02.540 on her.

00:34:03.800 And, you know, they would leave, and then a couple of minutes later, the thing would come

00:34:08.180 back.

00:34:09.220 And so that's all I had to start with.

00:34:11.240 But what my aunt told me was, oh, and there was a book she read, and she thinks that the

00:34:16.100 book explained her experiences, but she begged my mother, her daughter, not to read it.

00:34:23.560 So.

00:34:24.160 What's the name of the book?

00:34:24.920 I go to my, well, that's number one, right?

00:34:27.760 Number one, I'm like, what's the name of the book?

00:34:29.460 So I go to my mom, I ask her, she spills it, no problem.

00:34:33.920 And it's called Communion by Whitley Stryber.

00:34:37.060 So they made a movie out of it.

00:34:38.220 Christopher Walkins is in it.

00:34:39.320 He's the main guy.

00:34:40.820 And so I set out to Barnes and Nobles, and I, you know, I'm like a six-tack, I got no money,

00:34:46.040 so I steal the thing, and I never had sought out a book on my own.

00:34:49.800 I was basically retarded.

00:34:51.320 You stole it so you didn't have to touch the receipt.

00:34:53.420 Just, that's exactly.

00:34:54.920 Because they were doing the receipt paper, and I was like, no, dude, I'm not doing that.

00:34:57.760 But I never had sought out a book on my own.

00:35:00.540 You know what I mean?

00:35:01.080 I'm 16 years old.

00:35:02.100 I have no fucking intentions of reading anything, but this was really interesting to me.

00:35:06.900 So I read this thing, and it's basically this guy collecting first-hand encounters,

00:35:12.380 people's testimonies of alien abductions.

00:35:15.280 But it's got all the same elements that Barbara told me, and that's what really threw me for a loop.

00:35:21.480 Barbara and my grandma never met.

00:35:22.840 They didn't know each other, right?

00:35:24.280 So we have the paralysis, right?

00:35:28.120 When you're getting abducted, there's a paralysis.

00:35:31.560 There's the presence of shadow beings, shadow people.

00:35:35.520 And this is all really familiar stuff to people who are into this sort of thing.

00:35:38.980 I've heard this ad nauseum by this point.

00:35:42.640 There's often an inexplicably bright white light.

00:35:46.940 So there's all these connections, right?

00:35:49.020 And then I think even in the book.

00:35:51.080 Any lost time?

00:35:51.880 Yeah, there was a lot of lost time.

00:35:55.200 Now, Barbara or my grandma hadn't really described lost time.

00:35:58.120 Although my grandmother, she died when I was six, so I never really got to ask her any of these questions.

00:36:02.080 But Barbara, she didn't describe lost time.

00:36:04.720 She just described this fucking menacing dude in a duster coat.

00:36:07.740 It looks like Zorro.

00:36:08.680 You remember the old Zorro?

00:36:10.200 What was that?

00:36:10.900 Antonio Banderas, right?

00:36:11.680 Antonio Banderas.

00:36:12.900 Yeah.

00:36:13.620 I fucking love that movie.

00:36:14.780 I saw it recently.

00:36:15.740 It had three stars.

00:36:16.540 I was like, three stars?

00:36:17.340 That shit was solid.

00:36:18.000 But so I'm seeing all these connections in the book.

00:36:23.820 And I'm like, I got to take to the Internet and start trying to figure this out.

00:36:27.320 And the whole thing is basically, you know, you're being abducted.

00:36:29.680 That's what the fuck it is.

00:36:30.900 And I had, for those of you listening on episode four, I had an author.

00:36:34.240 Her name was Vicki Joy Anderson.

00:36:36.100 And she's an expert in sleep paralysis and shadow fucking entities.

00:36:40.100 And she said some deeply upsetting shit.

00:36:42.340 I'm not going to spoil it for anybody.

00:36:43.460 If you want to go listen, go check it out.

00:36:45.240 It's episode number four.

00:36:46.100 But at the end, when she starts to say, like, what it means to have these experiences, it's

00:36:50.160 not great.

00:36:51.940 So I missed this episode.

00:36:53.920 So God damn it.

00:36:55.140 Okay.

00:36:55.580 Yeah.

00:36:55.840 You got to check it out.

00:36:56.800 And your aunt, if she's interested, because, you know, she talks a lot about the hat man

00:37:01.120 in this episode.

00:37:01.620 So basically, I start to see all these connections and I take to the Internet and I find thousands

00:37:09.820 and thousands of people having the same experience.

00:37:11.740 So this is where it gets even weirder.

00:37:16.540 I recognize the potential for this being a psychological experience, right?

00:37:22.940 I get that your body is going to put you in a state of paralysis so that you don't act

00:37:27.280 out your dreams.

00:37:28.440 I also get that waking up in that state might make you afraid because it's new.

00:37:33.160 And I know that you're on the cusp of sleep.

00:37:37.160 And so there's a hallucinogenic aspect to dreams.

00:37:41.320 Maybe you could be projecting images around the room in the shadows.

00:37:44.800 I'm aware of all this.

00:37:46.180 I'm also aware that the more you look into this shit, you're going to have a nightmare

00:37:50.060 about it.

00:37:50.720 You know what I mean?

00:37:51.180 Like, it's like if you're watching nothing but Freddy Krueger movies, you're going to

00:37:54.280 have a fucking Freddy Krueger nightmare eventually.

00:37:55.940 Well, it's which it's also that have you considered this when you started your show?

00:38:01.060 The reason I didn't start my show as quickly as I did, number one, that guy jinxes a dick.

00:38:06.260 He said, you know, he was working on a video for me that didn't pan out.

00:38:10.100 But it was also the hesitancy to start it because it's this is a door that you're opening, you

00:38:14.920 know, and I'm fully aware that is like, do I want to look on the other side of this door?

00:38:19.760 And obviously, the answer is yes.

00:38:22.840 But what what looks back?

00:38:24.560 What comes back?

00:38:25.640 Are you are you in a good place mentally, spiritually to do this?

00:38:29.920 So, yeah, that's that's a big thing.

00:38:32.060 Even people like listening to this, once you're once your mind is open to this stuff, you are

00:38:36.120 now you're now sending out a signal that like not not just to other people, but to other

00:38:41.880 dimensions, probably other things that like this person is a beacon.

00:38:46.040 They're they're aware of what's going on here.

00:38:48.400 You know, and it's it's one of these lines that you got to walk because if you're not

00:38:53.940 aware of what's going on here, then you're vaxxed to the max and you're probably dead at

00:38:57.380 30 heart attack or, you know, just or just an NPC walking aimlessly thinking that, you

00:39:04.180 know, God's not real.

00:39:05.520 The Bible's fake or this is all, you know, we live in an infinitesimal space and we're

00:39:10.720 just a speck.

00:39:11.780 That's not the truth either.

00:39:13.180 So which way, which way, Western men, which way do you want to go?

00:39:16.780 I've chosen.

00:39:18.400 Yeah, it's it is a slippery slope.

00:39:22.140 And since I've started doing the show, things have in some ways ramped up.

00:39:27.780 But when I say ramped up, I mean, like there's a hierarchy to these entities.

00:39:33.020 And I think I've seen some shit before.

00:39:35.120 And then I've seen some lower end stuff kind of shadow people.

00:39:40.180 So my dreams have gotten a little bit weird and I've had some experiences around the house,

00:39:44.780 but I don't make any sort of illusions about it.

00:39:50.240 Like, if anything is going wrong, I invoke the name of Christ and I try to be right with God.

00:39:57.640 We all falter.

00:39:59.340 And so I'm better other times than I am, you know, sometimes.

00:40:04.700 But I do think that it wasn't really hesitancy because of the fear of sort of staring into

00:40:13.760 the abyss and the abyss staring back.

00:40:15.220 It was really hesitancy because I didn't know that I was equipped to talk about it.

00:40:19.200 You know, like I can speak well and I can regurgitate some information.

00:40:23.040 But like when you see the caliber of people that are in the space that know their shit

00:40:27.380 and do their homework, I had these sort of reservations about like, what do I have to

00:40:32.340 offer?

00:40:33.120 And I realized that I'm not offering me.

00:40:36.100 I'm offering the guests.

00:40:37.240 So if you watch my show, it's very much guest centric.

00:40:39.860 Like, I don't really chime in.

00:40:41.300 I let them do their thing.

00:40:42.220 I took that note from Tony Merkel.

00:40:43.940 I think he does a fantastic job of that.

00:40:45.680 It's like letting people share their testimony.

00:40:48.080 So and then if I recognize somebody needs a hand with the conversation, I'll pop in.

00:40:52.000 So the show is not about me.

00:40:53.900 And I think that's how I got over that hump.

00:40:56.540 But honestly, the main way, the main function is is going with Christ, invoking the name

00:41:02.060 of Christ, trying to live right, because I don't think you're in much of a good solid

00:41:08.600 standing to invoke the name of Christ if you just suck ass and you're not doing the right

00:41:12.920 thing.

00:41:14.880 But I think the other thing about it, too, is like.

00:41:18.120 If not this, then what else?

00:41:19.720 Like, what are we fucking doing here?

00:41:20.820 You know, we pretend that this is not a spiritual realm, that this isn't, you know, a sort of

00:41:27.100 a place of spiritual warfare.

00:41:28.720 Some of us pretend that.

00:41:29.860 And then those of us who know that that's true.

00:41:32.320 Well, then you have a problem.

00:41:33.660 You know that.

00:41:34.680 Right.

00:41:34.860 You know that this is spiritual warfare.

00:41:36.600 You see all the I since 16 years old.

00:41:38.700 I'm looking at conspiracy theories and symbols and all this crap and Illuminati this and

00:41:43.380 reptilians that.

00:41:44.160 And like, you don't I don't think you get to know, for example, myself personally, I

00:41:50.240 didn't I'm not allowed to know what I know and not partake.

00:41:53.320 You know what I mean?

00:41:54.180 It feels hypocritical.

00:41:55.500 It's like there's an arena and I'm opting out of the arena.

00:41:59.180 Like, I don't even believe I believe that politics is sort of a rubber mask, you know, and that

00:42:04.080 it's it's a it's a puppeteering dance.

00:42:06.360 And then behind the politics, there's something much more nefarious going on.

00:42:09.820 And I have that on good authority.

00:42:11.500 It's not just like a hunch that I have.

00:42:13.780 And so if I if I think that within myself, I know that then who am I to opt out that that's

00:42:21.080 like the biggest pussy move in my book is like all this shit that I know, you know, if you

00:42:26.560 bump into me in a supermarket and you want to shoot small talk, you'll be entirely underwhelmed

00:42:30.960 by me.

00:42:31.560 But if you bump into me somewhere and all of a sudden you start talking this shit, you're

00:42:34.700 gonna be like, oh, my God, this guy, I have useless what I thought was useless information.

00:42:39.960 And this is the only context in which I'm useful outside of, you know, welding and being

00:42:44.220 a husband and a father like this is.

00:42:46.500 I'm I'm a bitch if I opt out.

00:42:49.940 So I think that that's really where it comes from.

00:42:51.860 But, you know, so like I was saying, I have this this notion that like if I keep, like

00:42:58.320 you said, looking into the abyss, it's going to look back at some point.

00:43:01.000 But I also knew that that could just be, you know, I had dreams of Super Mario when I was

00:43:04.380 a kid and I fucking played a lot of Super Mario.

00:43:06.120 So, you know, it's hard to say which one's happening.

00:43:09.360 So sure enough, though, one night the shit does happen and I wake up and I realize I'm

00:43:15.140 paralyzed and when you wake up in this state, like your brain is is firing on all cylinders,

00:43:20.220 which is the weird thing.

00:43:21.660 You know, it's not like I wasn't drowsy.

00:43:23.200 I was like, oh, shit, this is happening.

00:43:25.620 And I went through some stuff to kind of calm myself down, like, all right, we expected

00:43:29.680 this.

00:43:30.320 And I'm looking around the room because your eyeballs work, you know, nothing else works.

00:43:34.600 And suddenly I see the shadow of a man walk across my room.

00:43:40.840 And as soon as that happens, I'm hit with this unbelievable layer of fear.

00:43:47.760 Like, it doesn't even make sense how afraid I was.

00:43:51.080 You know, we've all been in scary situations.

00:43:54.320 This was like I can only equate it to, like, fear for my mortal soul.

00:43:59.960 I was experiencing doom, like the fucking the sensation of doom.

00:44:04.700 And I was also experiencing this sensation of being electrocuted or or or vibrating, like

00:44:11.920 an intense buzzing sound kind of locked my arms out, locked my legs out.

00:44:16.380 And this only lasts for like a two to three second count.

00:44:20.440 Right.

00:44:20.920 I'm hit with this.

00:44:21.880 I just want to interject when I was younger.

00:44:24.060 That's another thing that it's like the more I think about it is that like it's a light

00:44:27.780 vibration, almost paralysis, but feeling like like I'm shaking, but I'm awake.

00:44:33.780 I'm conscious that my father and my uncle in the room.

00:44:37.380 So, man, what the fuck happened?

00:44:38.580 Yeah.

00:44:38.940 OK, go ahead.

00:44:39.740 Go ahead.

00:44:40.320 Interesting.

00:44:41.600 Vicki Joy Anderson, episode four, she talks about something that even the confessionals is

00:44:47.360 mentioned.

00:44:47.780 It's like this infrasound thing.

00:44:49.400 It's the beginning of it.

00:44:50.900 This vibration is the beginning of something trying to happen to you.

00:44:54.640 And for me, it was like I didn't have a fucking option to shit.

00:44:56.960 Somebody hit the button and it fully sent me.

00:44:59.720 So I have this buzzing.

00:45:01.920 I have this fear.

00:45:02.740 And then suddenly I black out.

00:45:04.660 I come back to and I'm now on the opposite side of the bed.

00:45:10.260 My girlfriend was dating at the time.

00:45:12.520 Her feet are by my head, but everything looks right.

00:45:15.420 The room still looks right.

00:45:16.520 Everything's normal.

00:45:17.240 And then all of a sudden, this massive, bright white light, like unbelievably bright.

00:45:25.860 And this is shit you'll see over and over again.

00:45:27.920 Like you'll hear these descriptions over again.

00:45:29.660 The buzzing, the light, you know, being moved around and shit.

00:45:33.040 So this light comes pouring out of the closet.

00:45:36.140 There's no light switch or nothing.

00:45:37.260 There's no light bulb in there.

00:45:38.740 And it's so bright.

00:45:40.640 It once again, my body locks up.

00:45:43.140 This electric buzzing sound happens.

00:45:44.760 And then I pass out.

00:45:47.140 And so that's literally the end of that experience.

00:45:49.880 There's nothing left there.

00:45:51.360 It's just I wake up in the morning and I'm like, shit, man.

00:45:54.980 Like I thought it was going to happen.

00:45:56.560 And it did happen.

00:45:57.940 But the only takeaway that I really have.

00:46:01.040 Why did you think it was going to happen?

00:46:03.360 Because I was looking at the shit so much.

00:46:05.220 Like I became, I get obsessive over things.

00:46:07.260 So like it works really well for learning shit.

00:46:10.340 Like I taught myself how to weld.

00:46:12.200 And, you know, I excelled at boxing and Muay Thai and all this shit.

00:46:16.020 I grab onto something and I go really hard.

00:46:18.540 And then I kind of like fall off of it.

00:46:20.280 And I just know like the way I sunk my teeth into this whole sleep paralysis shit.

00:46:23.840 Like I was, anything that was there to absorb in 2006, 2007 on the internet, I absorbed it.

00:46:30.520 I got it all.

00:46:31.240 I covered everything.

00:46:32.040 I watched every fucking YouTube video.

00:46:33.720 I was up until like, you know, two, three in the morning every night.

00:46:37.280 Just the glow of the screen on my face.

00:46:38.800 My girlfriend's behind me sleeping.

00:46:40.160 Because I was homeless from like 17 to about 21.

00:46:46.240 And so I had all the time in the world.

00:46:47.720 So I'm dating this girl and she's letting me crash at her place.

00:46:51.240 And I'm just, I didn't have a computer, you know.

00:46:53.140 I didn't have a cell phone or nothing.

00:46:54.740 So her house was the portal to fucking information.

00:46:58.260 So while I was supposed to be dating this girl, I was just fucking picking apart the seams of this realm.

00:47:03.240 You know what I mean?

00:47:03.760 Just haunting her house.

00:47:05.260 Like the portal, the portal, again, like this is a very Tony Merkel thing.

00:47:09.700 It's an interesting word to use there.

00:47:12.480 And my aunt brought it up.

00:47:14.260 She doesn't watch any of this shit.

00:47:15.640 But she had said right in the beginning, she was like, I feel like, I feel like I'm like a portal to these things.

00:47:21.180 And when she said that, I was like, oh shit.

00:47:23.420 You know, I was like, here we go.

00:47:24.660 Like we're about to hear something.

00:47:26.340 It's very, maybe like you opening yourself up to this stuff, studying it, you are creating like some kind of beacon.

00:47:33.620 Like you're, you know, we are, I think we are special in a way where we probably can do this.

00:47:39.060 We probably knew how to do this, forgot how to do this.

00:47:41.420 But when you start to look into this stuff, something in your brain might open up and that might open up some kind of small portal.

00:47:48.280 And then these guys are just like, oh shit, portal here.

00:47:51.240 I'm just going to go ahead and pass on through.

00:47:53.640 What's going to pass through?

00:47:54.960 Who the hell knows?

00:47:56.280 But that's, it seems an awful, like an awful lot like what you're describing.

00:48:00.900 And at least it kind of like coincides with my theory there.

00:48:03.760 You know, I had this guy on yesterday, the episode is going to drop soon.

00:48:09.260 His name is Paul of Understanding Conspiracies.

00:48:13.640 And I never done an episode with somebody where I felt so stupid and so inarticulate.

00:48:19.560 Like he was just so good.

00:48:21.200 I was like, you want my fucking show, dude?

00:48:23.020 You want to just do my show?

00:48:24.220 Because he was so good.

00:48:25.160 His content is amazing.

00:48:27.460 And you should check out the episode when it drops because it's all about the Nephilim and this clown connection.

00:48:32.180 He, and I know it sounds crazy, but he connects the aesthetic of the archetype of a clown to a Nephilim and how a clown is a symbol of a Nephilim.

00:48:43.820 And I know it sounds crazy.

00:48:44.900 I can't verbalize it like he does.

00:48:48.300 But what he said at the end was these things will, can be cast out in the name of Christ, right?

00:48:55.060 But they will continually come back and try you.

00:48:57.960 And until this emptiness inside you is filled with the Holy Spirit, they're going to try to be, they're going to try to fill you, bro.

00:49:07.120 They're going to keep showing up.

00:49:08.580 They're going to keep trying to fill you unless you ask the Holy Spirit into yourself.

00:49:15.320 And so that kind of makes sense to me because so much of this dark entity shit is about not letting it in.

00:49:21.040 It always wants to get in.

00:49:22.200 You have to give it permission.

00:49:23.280 You have to open the door.

00:49:24.480 You have to engage in dialogue with it.

00:49:26.840 So there's something that it's trying to get into.

00:49:29.280 And then, of course, you know, it's not a leap to think about things like possession and shit like that.

00:49:33.640 But I thought that was really interesting.

00:49:35.620 The way he put it was like, until you fill that, we all have a void in us.

00:49:39.020 And until you fill it with the Holy Spirit, something is going to continuously try.

00:49:42.940 And you can continuously cast it out.

00:49:44.960 But you're only, it's like your front door is kicked open and you got to continuously go and guard it.

00:49:51.020 But you're not repairing the door.

00:49:52.940 You know what I mean?

00:49:53.560 And so, yeah, every night something's going to come and test you.

00:49:56.740 And sure, you can send it packing, but it's going to keep trying until you fix the door.

00:50:00.780 It's very interesting to think of these entities as, because like, you know, you think of like a dark spirit or a passenger or whatever, maybe a demon even.

00:50:10.960 And you're like, these things are wild, but they have these rules, these kind of mortal rules where like you must invite them in.

00:50:16.960 Or in the Bible, I think it was a legion, the demon legion, where Jesus sees him and he's like, what are you doing, man?

00:50:26.320 And they have like, you know, they palaver.

00:50:28.680 They have a conversation.

00:50:29.900 And he's like, I know the deal.

00:50:31.480 I know who you are.

00:50:32.680 Could you put me in those pigs?

00:50:33.920 And he's like, yeah, sure, go on the pigs.

00:50:35.240 And it's like, there is like, it's not just like a wild thing.

00:50:38.900 There's like an intelligence here.

00:50:41.040 And it's funny to see people just completely ignore it.

00:50:44.960 Just move on with life.

00:50:46.660 And this is not happening, you know?

00:50:49.420 Well, I think that's all by design, right?

00:50:51.160 It's like crush you with every aspect of life, your finances and your work life and your, you know, just everything, societal pressures.

00:51:01.200 It's really well crafted, you know?

00:51:04.140 So that's why there's people of the school of thought of coincidence, you know, which is where you definitely get that whole, we all came from something the size of the head of a pin and it exploded into everything that will ever exist.

00:51:17.180 And it was just a coincidence that all these elements lined up and created.

00:51:20.720 Okay, fine.

00:51:21.340 Yeah, you can have that.

00:51:22.300 But from where I'm standing, it doesn't make sense for it to be coincidence.

00:51:26.240 And then you have to kind of tip your hat to the really, one, the elegant design of the universe, but then two, the elegant design of the deception is fucking bananas, dude.

00:51:36.660 Like, it's so well crafted.

00:51:38.300 It works better than any well-oiled machine you're ever going to come across.

00:51:42.420 You know, I say it oftentimes because I think like the conspiracy community is so fractured.

00:51:48.240 We're all arguing, like, is it flat earth?

00:51:50.800 Is it hollow earth?

00:51:51.600 Is the lizard people real?

00:51:52.740 Are the aliens aliens?

00:51:53.780 Are they demons?

00:51:54.420 And we all like fight amongst each other.

00:51:56.020 And I'm like, man, we're all victims to the greatest propaganda machine that the world has ever known.

00:52:02.680 And there's never been one so sophisticated and we're all subjected to it.

00:52:07.240 But you only have 10 minutes that you want to go.

00:52:10.440 So I got to get this story in because this is like me, this is I call it like the one thing I can contribute, right, like to the community is my own testimony.

00:52:20.660 And this is where I turned a corner and I was like, oh, yeah, Christ is real.

00:52:25.840 So me and my family, my wife and my son, we we pack up everything into a fucking Hyundai Elantra and we drive from New Jersey to Las Vegas.

00:52:36.200 We're going to go hack out a life in Las Vegas.

00:52:38.160 It's 42 hours and we get there and everything's real cool.

00:52:42.180 I live with my cousin.

00:52:43.400 It's good to see him.

00:52:44.220 Haven't seen him in a long time and, you know, get a job and everything's pretty cool.

00:52:49.120 But it just doesn't feel like home.

00:52:51.460 And, you know, my wife misses her side of the family and I'm missing like my friends and everything from back home.

00:52:59.260 And then we end up having an illness in the family and it brings us back to New Jersey.

00:53:04.620 And even though we had enough reason, I couldn't help but feel like I.

00:53:14.300 I took advantage of that reason when it showed itself, like I was glad to see it, like, whoo, finally a reason.

00:53:19.540 So I don't have to be a bitch.

00:53:20.540 I can just say, oh, we had to go back.

00:53:22.120 You know, that's what I felt like.

00:53:23.480 I felt like I was defeated and I saw an out and I took the out.

00:53:27.000 And so when we get back to New Jersey, we land with the in-laws and the in-laws are Jehovah Witnesses.

00:53:33.840 And it's real hard to I wasn't raised religious and they don't like swearing.

00:53:40.960 And and the the conversation is very sterile.

00:53:44.340 And I don't do that.

00:53:45.140 I'm so bad with that.

00:53:46.400 I like a real conversation.

00:53:47.880 I can't do that sterilized kind of, you know, formalities thing.

00:53:50.640 And but this is all excuses.

00:53:52.500 What I should have done was I should have just rose to the occasion, been a good sudden law, you know, landed there for a little bit, got up on our feet and then got out into an apartment and thank these wonderful people for giving us a place to stay and, you know, taking care of us while we're there.

00:54:06.340 Instead, like a fucking bum, I like I became a recluse and I went inward and I I stayed in the room all day.

00:54:16.060 So I'd go to work and I'd come back home.

00:54:18.600 I'd go to the one bedroom that all of us are in.

00:54:20.740 There's two air mattresses, one for my son, one for me and my wife.

00:54:23.540 And I'm just playing Red Dead Redemption 2 all fucking day.

00:54:27.100 And, you know, nighttime rolls around.

00:54:28.920 I go to sleep, wake up in the morning, rinse and repeat.

00:54:31.860 I'm not having conversations.

00:54:33.900 My son and my wife are downstairs with the family laughing and talking.

00:54:38.860 My wife is embarrassed because I'm not there by her side.

00:54:41.760 Instead, I'm reclusive.

00:54:42.880 I'm up in this.

00:54:43.900 So, you know, you start to have all these things seep into you, right?

00:54:48.260 Like anxiety and anger and depression, resent and all this shit, you know.

00:54:56.700 And I think that those emotions, that state of mind, that's energy for these things to feed off.

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00:55:58.000 So that's what I attribute to what started happening to me.

00:56:03.000 So, it's kind of like takes place in this four night long nightmare.

00:56:11.000 And the first night, you know, I had done the rinse and repeat.

00:56:15.520 I come back from work.

00:56:16.560 I play Red Dead Redemption.

00:56:18.140 Fucking my wife brings me a plate up to the room because I'm too much of a fucking loser to go eat with her family.

00:56:22.500 And, you know, and then I go to sleep that night and I start waking up to something, what feels like a, something banging on the door downstairs.

00:56:34.240 Like, boom, boom, boom, boom.

00:56:35.700 Real hard.

00:56:36.420 And I know there's a construction site outside and I know it's still dark out, but maybe they're asking us to move a car or some shit.

00:56:43.460 So I pop up and I look out the window.

00:56:46.200 Nobody's there at all.

00:56:47.920 I'm like, all right.

00:56:49.080 I've been into this shit my whole life, right?

00:56:50.860 So I didn't even get to escape that one incident without being like, was that knocking on me?

00:56:56.560 You know what I mean?

00:56:57.040 Like, was something knocking on me?

00:56:58.400 Because it wasn't knocking on the door.

00:56:59.500 Nobody else noticed it.

00:57:00.820 My wife didn't budge.

00:57:01.760 Nobody in the house got up to check the door.

00:57:04.360 So I go back to sleep.

00:57:05.940 As soon as I doze off, boom, boom, boom, boom.

00:57:09.060 I get up.

00:57:10.360 There's nothing there.

00:57:11.280 I look out the window.

00:57:12.280 Nobody else notices it.

00:57:13.740 Now I'm really kind of reinforcing that, like, is somebody fucking knocking on me shit.

00:57:17.480 And I fall asleep.

00:57:21.900 Shit happens a third time.

00:57:23.680 This time I just pop my eyes open.

00:57:25.360 Like, I'm not even, I'm not going to get up.

00:57:27.920 I know it's not real.

00:57:29.200 I know now that it's me.

00:57:31.460 It's not the door.

00:57:32.620 I don't know what that means.

00:57:33.880 You know, doing a lot of speculating and it's hard to get back to sleep, but it's fucking scary.

00:57:37.880 That morning comes and I don't talk about it.

00:57:43.300 And I always kind of say, like, in the horror movies, like, how come they never talk to each other?

00:57:46.620 How come, you know, one character sees a ghost and he doesn't fucking let the other character know?

00:57:51.260 And I start to understand why that is because nobody can do anything about it.

00:57:56.960 And if you look at it, it's like you're giving it attention.

00:58:00.980 Yeah.

00:58:01.160 So I just try to ignore it.

00:58:03.320 So rinse and repeat, same fucking day, breakfast up to my room on a plate.

00:58:09.280 I'm avoiding everybody and playing Red Dead Redemption.

00:58:13.340 It's a great fucking game.

00:58:14.760 And I go to sleep that night.

00:58:18.660 And now I'm waking up to, it feels like something is pulling my arm off the bed and into the air.

00:58:25.740 So I pull my arm back and I'm like, what the fuck?

00:58:30.640 And I fall back asleep.

00:58:32.220 I've obviously known about the first night and the knocking, right?

00:58:35.800 So I'm putting this together.

00:58:38.020 Yeah.

00:58:38.480 And it's really upsetting.

00:58:40.840 Like, it's really upsetting.

00:58:42.880 So fall back asleep.

00:58:44.780 Shit happens again.

00:58:45.540 My arm gets pulled again.

00:58:47.240 Bro, it is the most, like, I didn't want to think about any of this shit.

00:58:51.640 Like, it's a very dude thing to do, like a guy thing.

00:58:56.320 Like, if you're sick, you're just kind of like, you know what?

00:58:59.100 Like, I've been limping for a year and my knee might be broken, but I'm like, fuck it.

00:59:02.620 Whatever.

00:59:03.000 Maybe it'll get better.

00:59:04.000 But I'm not going to the doctor.

00:59:06.240 That's what it is now.

00:59:07.100 I just fucking limp.

00:59:07.920 This is how I walk.

00:59:08.880 This is fine.

00:59:09.720 I just go walking.

00:59:11.540 So it happens again to my arm, right?

00:59:15.080 So that's two times on the arm.

00:59:16.560 Now I tuck my arms under the blanket like a child, right?

00:59:19.900 Because I'm like, I can't, it's like you put the blanket over your head and it's like,

00:59:22.580 nothing can kill me if I'm fucking in a blanket.

00:59:24.760 So nothing can pull my arm if it's in the blanket.

00:59:27.160 So I got my arms bundled up and now my fucking leg.

00:59:32.400 Something grabs my ankle and pulls my leg off the bed.

00:59:36.020 Oh, shit.

00:59:36.500 And when you wake up, bro, it is, it's, it's pitch black in the room.

00:59:40.180 Everybody's still sleeping.

00:59:41.520 You can't see the, like, greasy demon, but you feel like it's there.

00:59:45.320 And it's just you in the dark thinking about your leg and thinking about your arm and thinking

00:59:51.320 that the shadow is real shadowy, more shadowy than usual, you know, but there's fucking nothing

00:59:58.300 to do about it.

00:59:59.300 So I fall back asleep.

01:00:01.600 Actually, I go on my phone for a really long time, almost till the sun comes up.

01:00:05.780 And then I fall asleep for about an hour or two and then I go to fucking work in the

01:00:09.100 morning.

01:00:10.500 So now we're on to night three.

01:00:12.460 Night three is a big fucking problem.

01:00:15.720 So what ends up happening is I have a nightmare right after my, my, my ritual of bring me

01:00:23.480 my plate so that I could play fucking Red Dead Redemption and I go to sleep.

01:00:27.240 I have this nightmare that I'm in this room and, uh, I can see only one thing and it's

01:00:34.880 a, you know, kind of a dude standing in the middle of the room.

01:00:39.060 When I say dude, he's just, he's got two legs, two arms and a head.

01:00:42.200 Like that's about as much of a dude that he was.

01:00:44.620 And he's got skin like a slug.

01:00:49.420 You're from New York, right?

01:00:50.540 So you guys had this, this slugs too.

01:00:52.640 They were like gray and black.

01:00:55.040 Yeah.

01:00:55.400 Like cheetah, almost cheetah print looking.

01:00:57.400 Yeah.

01:00:57.580 Yeah.

01:00:57.740 So his skin looked like that, but it wasn't slimy.

01:01:01.620 And so it's all gray and then black cheetah print blotches.

01:01:06.360 And he's kind of fucking jacked, not like super jacked, but he's thick.

01:01:11.700 Like I remember being intimidated by him, like on a physical level, like, oh, this dude could

01:01:15.880 fuck me up.

01:01:16.400 And he's got like these bottom, um, canines, they come over his lip.

01:01:23.900 So the, on the bottom jaw, they're coming up out of his mouth and he's got eyes like

01:01:29.520 maraschino cherries.

01:01:30.860 Like they're so bright red and he is like, kind of like heaving.

01:01:39.080 Like he's so, this thing, I, it looked like if rage was, you know, rage incarnate, like

01:01:45.480 if rage was a creature, this thing was rage.

01:01:49.140 And that's all the dream was, right?

01:01:51.940 And then around his legs, there's like this swirling black mist.

01:01:55.180 So it's in a mostly dark room, but he's kind of illuminated.

01:01:59.180 I could see him.

01:01:59.980 There's no like light sources, a fucking dream.

01:02:01.600 None of it makes sense.

01:02:02.620 And he's got this fucking smoke all around his legs.

01:02:06.860 Uh, and it's real thick, like, like thick mist.

01:02:09.980 And he's just staring at me and heaving.

01:02:12.440 Like his chest is rising and falling, rising and falling.

01:02:15.660 So I wake up and my wife tells me that she had a nightmare.

01:02:23.960 Like we wake up in the morning and it's normal.

01:02:25.440 I don't want to tell her about my nightmare.

01:02:26.860 I've still not told her shit.

01:02:29.020 And she starts telling me about a nightmare she had.

01:02:32.180 So as soon as she said she had a nightmare, I'm like, okay, like I'm ready to fucking,

01:02:35.840 you know, but I'm not telling her what I saw.

01:02:38.120 So she says that she was paralyzed and couldn't move anything but her eyes.

01:02:44.900 And she could look over to me and see a monster on my chest with bright red glowing eyes pinning

01:02:52.080 me into the bed.

01:02:53.100 Oh shit.

01:02:55.700 Yeah, bro.

01:02:56.440 I'm fucked up.

01:02:57.220 Like when she says this, I'm fucked up.

01:02:58.940 I'm not happy.

01:03:00.380 And I'm real conflicted because...

01:03:03.060 Do you tell her?

01:03:05.100 No, though, right?

01:03:06.160 Because why the fuck would you tell her?

01:03:08.280 Does it, you're going to feed into it?

01:03:09.940 You're going to upset her.

01:03:11.280 And then you have to get to sleep that night.

01:03:13.180 I'm still thinking like I can handle this.

01:03:15.580 That's how my dude brain works is like, I'm not doing anything proactive, but I can fucking

01:03:20.000 handle this, bro.

01:03:20.880 Like if I could just get through another night and, you know, everything will return to normal.

01:03:25.320 So I just keep it to myself.

01:03:27.980 So the fourth night rolls around and my wife, I have no, nothing happens.

01:03:36.920 My wife wakes me up in the morning though to show me like a video that she took of my

01:03:41.580 neck, like my jugular where you would take your pulse is throbbing.

01:03:46.300 So it's like I'm having some sort of really intense dream to the point where before she

01:03:50.700 wakes me up, she wants to show me this, how wild it is.

01:03:53.300 So she takes the video and then she wakes me up.

01:03:55.500 So as I'm watching this video, suddenly my son pops up out of bed crying immediately.

01:04:01.640 Like, you know, when, when the kid wakes up crying, it's because of a nightmare, you

01:04:05.700 know, not like he woke up and couldn't find somebody.

01:04:07.980 Like we were sitting right there.

01:04:09.060 He was crying and sat up like all pretty much at the same time.

01:04:12.820 And so we console him and we're like, Hey buddy, it's okay.

01:04:15.460 It's okay.

01:04:16.120 And then he tells us that he had this nightmare that a monster with red glowing eyes was after

01:04:22.620 him.

01:04:23.500 Wow.

01:04:24.240 So, you know, this, that's like, that's like that dog man story.

01:04:33.080 I was thinking, is this, is this like a hairless dog man?

01:04:36.260 But that's a dog man story from the Tony Merkel show where the guy had the dream and he ended

01:04:42.200 up with scratches on his back and then him and his son saw this thing physically.

01:04:45.440 So like manifesting itself in, in multiple realms for you, luckily it was just, uh, it's

01:04:52.820 just like in, in the dream space, but in three separate occasions, your wife was awake

01:04:58.340 when, when she saw you with this thing on your chest?

01:05:01.000 She experienced, she doesn't, I don't think she knew how to articulate it because she wasn't

01:05:04.800 somebody who had sleep paralysis.

01:05:07.260 But I think if, if I went back and asked her right now, I feel as though she would say

01:05:11.320 like, that's the only time she's ever had it.

01:05:13.180 So when you say, are you awake?

01:05:15.400 It's like, I think that I was awake in my sleep paralysis experience.

01:05:20.060 And a lot of people who have it say that they're awake, but like, you could also see how you

01:05:24.780 might not think that because it's totally not a normal waking state.

01:05:28.300 And so, yeah, she had paralysis and she looked over and saw that.

01:05:32.340 Uh, so, you know, I, I don't know if that means that it bled over into, into the waking

01:05:39.120 realm or if, you know, she was still in between enough that the veil was thin.

01:05:45.660 But when I tell you that I, I went into problem solving mode so quick, like this was no longer

01:05:53.620 a thing that I could let slide and I had to address the situation.

01:05:58.220 And like, if you're asking me right now, ask anybody, like, what do you do in that situation?

01:06:04.380 Yeah.

01:06:04.520 You might have some goofy people.

01:06:06.020 Look, man, I'm not saying that people are goofy if they want to fucking wave sage around.

01:06:09.800 I'm not fucking waving sage around.

01:06:11.500 I don't give a shit.

01:06:12.380 I'm going to go towards the, the, the most pure and good thing that I can think of.

01:06:18.460 Uh, and so maybe a lot of other people would had other routes of, of, uh, recourse, but

01:06:25.320 I, I didn't, I was like grasping for straws, man, but it felt like an emergency.

01:06:30.240 Like I cannot let this go on any longer.

01:06:33.020 For me, it was one thing for my wife.

01:06:34.960 It was a totally other thing.

01:06:36.040 But once it extended to my son, who was only probably about, uh, four or five at the time,

01:06:41.560 I, I recognized like, holy shit, this is an emergency and I have to do something immediately.

01:06:47.040 So, you know, it, it becomes in a way almost anticlimactic.

01:06:53.280 The, the night of the fifth night, I prayed to Christ to protect myself and my family.

01:06:59.960 Uh, and, and that was it.

01:07:01.860 It, it fucking stopped on a dime.

01:07:03.820 We're talking four nights of tormenting and on the fifth night it was done.

01:07:08.340 I bet you that prayer, I bet you that prayer was pure as hell, man.

01:07:12.500 It was desperate.

01:07:14.660 Yeah.

01:07:15.060 No, bro.

01:07:15.580 It was desperate.

01:07:16.180 I thought a lot about specifically what I wanted to say, because I felt like it was

01:07:20.280 important that I asked very clearly.

01:07:21.960 Like I need protection for myself, for my wife and for my son and anybody else in this

01:07:28.220 house and this thing, you know, I, I need it to be gone and it needs to stop.

01:07:33.640 And, you know, from that point on, I was never religious, but like, I feel like a real

01:07:39.360 bitch.

01:07:39.960 If I ever like sleep on the idea of Christ, you know what I mean?

01:07:43.800 Like if you were like, Oh, what do you think about like, I'm not technically a Christian

01:07:47.100 because I'm not a practicing Christian.

01:07:48.480 I don't go to a church, but like, I'll never deny the name of Christ.

01:07:52.400 There's no way.

01:07:53.020 Because if you would have felt how desperate I felt, it would be insulting to ever be so

01:07:59.340 low and to call out in such desperation.

01:08:02.280 And then to just, as soon as shit is convenient, drop the idea and be like, Oh yeah, Christ.

01:08:08.280 I don't know.

01:08:08.620 Maybe he was a dude.

01:08:09.440 Maybe he wasn't.

01:08:10.080 Like, I don't know.

01:08:11.240 I know that Christ is something a hundred percent, a hundred percent.

01:08:15.320 And I'll never deny that because if I'm ever that level of a fool, then, uh, you know,

01:08:21.300 I deserve whatever's coming to me because that was, that was a low point, man.

01:08:25.540 And, you know, I bought all that on myself.

01:08:27.940 It was like, I could have rose to the occasion.

01:08:30.320 I could have been a better father, a better husband, a better son-in-law.

01:08:33.920 I could have been more grateful.

01:08:35.680 I could have, uh, swallowed my pride and just engage with these folks who are putting me

01:08:41.180 up and taking care of me and my family.

01:08:42.980 You know what I mean?

01:08:43.480 Like I could have done so many other things, but instead I took the coward's route and you

01:08:49.300 don't get away from that.

01:08:50.200 You know, that internal narrator chews you apart, no matter how much I was into the game

01:08:55.540 and shit like that.

01:08:57.300 Like I knew what I was doing.

01:08:58.840 You don't escape that kind of shit.

01:09:00.520 And so, you know, I, all of that I bought on myself, but what I like to say is that it

01:09:07.820 was the, it was the ultimate blessing because the person that I am, like, I, I always say

01:09:14.060 to people, like I came to Christ, but I came through the back door and the back door is like

01:09:19.140 the occult and the paranormal and, and, you know, shit like that.

01:09:22.800 And, uh, I don't know.

01:09:25.520 It just, it feels like I said, just insulting to ever deny just even the concept of Christ

01:09:36.600 that, that specifically to me, because like I said, I'm not a practicing Christian.

01:09:39.980 I don't read the Bible.

01:09:40.920 I have a Bible, but the language is so I'm basically retarded.

01:09:44.780 So like I can read shit, you know, if it's worded well, but as soon as you start telling

01:09:49.540 me about fucking this dude lived for fucking 900 years and he had 17 kids with names you've

01:09:54.960 never heard of, and you're not even sure how to pronounce them.

01:09:57.580 And then they had 17 kids, like the whole fucking opening, like, you know, Genesis or

01:10:01.560 whatever it is.

01:10:02.040 He begot this and he begot that.

01:10:03.280 It's very difficult.

01:10:04.920 Yeah.

01:10:05.060 Give me the cliff notes.

01:10:06.200 I'm, I'm, God, that's the thing too.

01:10:08.540 When you're praying it, when you're praying to God, it's kind of like, it's like, like you

01:10:12.380 said, how am I going to phrase this?

01:10:13.980 And it's almost like, do you know what I'm here for?

01:10:16.860 Like, I know that I should pray to you, but you know exactly what I need and what I, it's,

01:10:21.960 it's a very like a, it's a, it's a backwards, it's a backwards way of thinking for me because

01:10:26.680 it's like, I'm trying to craft it perfectly for somebody who can, can express my thoughts

01:10:31.720 in, in a language that, that doesn't exist, you know?

01:10:36.140 Yeah.

01:10:37.200 Yeah.

01:10:37.880 Wow.

01:10:38.280 That's a great story, dude.

01:10:39.760 I love that.

01:10:40.620 Like real quick, I'm actually going through, you know, my son, I was on the Elijah Schaefer

01:10:45.480 show the other day on Friday and my son woke up in one of these night terrors again, where

01:10:49.320 he wakes up and he's not quite awake, not quite asleep.

01:10:52.740 And it was so bad that my wife was like, Hey, you got to come in here.

01:10:55.500 And I just logged off.

01:10:56.740 This is a huge, there's like half a million followers or something on the show.

01:10:59.740 And I was like, I got to go.

01:11:01.360 And I logged off and I went in there and it was like, it was probably an hour or two hour

01:11:06.300 ordeal.

01:11:07.100 And it's not the first time, but it's been a while since it's happened.

01:11:10.260 And I'm just, you know, what, what do you do with this kind of situation?

01:11:14.980 Do you deal with it logically?

01:11:16.800 Or is it your son?

01:11:18.300 He's three.

01:11:21.040 And so he's got no real ability to vocalize what it is.

01:11:24.120 That's upset him in the dream.

01:11:26.420 He, when he comes out of it, he doesn't even know that he was doing this.

01:11:32.120 It's very bizarre.

01:11:33.220 It could just be, you know, night terror, as they call it WebMD.

01:11:36.840 Right.

01:11:37.580 Or it could be something else.

01:11:38.820 I don't, I'm, I'm undecided, but it's, it's, it freaks me out a little bit.

01:11:43.000 And it's been, it's been, you know, it's, it's not just like recently, like, oh, well,

01:11:47.340 you started the show.

01:11:48.340 No, he's done this before.

01:11:50.540 This has happened before.

01:11:51.720 And it's just, but every time it happens, it doesn't rub me the right way spiritually.

01:11:55.400 I'm like, something is going on, you know, with this kid.

01:11:58.720 Do you pray on it?

01:12:00.100 Yeah, I do.

01:12:01.440 Is the prayer sincere?

01:12:03.360 I'm not sure.

01:12:05.180 I think, I think that I have to, you got to pray and really ask yourself, like, are you

01:12:09.300 being sincere here?

01:12:10.180 Are you coming?

01:12:10.780 That's why I said, when you prayed, you were, that, that prayer was like straight from the

01:12:16.000 heart.

01:12:16.220 Because if that stopped, that came directly from your soul.

01:12:19.480 That's like an animalistic thing that came out of you.

01:12:22.200 And it was like, it must stop now.

01:12:25.040 And, and that, yeah, exactly.

01:12:27.800 I'm not, I guess I'm not at that point yet, but how do you get to that point?

01:12:32.820 Do you, do I, you know, do you just talk to God?

01:12:34.640 Like it must stop now.

01:12:35.760 And he's like, you don't mean it like that.

01:12:37.480 You know what I mean?

01:12:38.360 There's, there's levels to it.

01:12:40.500 And, uh, I'm, I'm trying to figure it out.

01:12:43.180 I'm trying to figure.

01:12:44.620 Well, you know, um, I lost my train of thought before, but it just came back to me when you

01:12:48.480 were saying that the, um, it was, it was a blessing because of the, the way my mind

01:12:54.580 works, like since I was of the paranormal and conspiratorial, I had to, uh, I had to,

01:13:03.460 uh, I had to see, I had to see that.

01:13:06.200 Yeah.

01:13:06.600 Like I had to see that in order to get to that place.

01:13:11.000 You know what, you know what I mean?

01:13:12.160 So like, even though it was evil and it was malicious and it was terrifying, thank God

01:13:17.100 for it because it, it, like I said, it made me turn that corner.

01:13:21.060 I think Christianity and Catholicism, they dropped the ball a lot.

01:13:23.860 The church drops the ball a lot.

01:13:25.080 They don't talk about the supernatural and the paranormal.

01:13:27.140 They dismiss that shit.

01:13:28.440 And you get like a homogenized, sterilized version of this supernatural book that like

01:13:33.240 we said before, it's, it's alive on multiple dimensions, right?

01:13:36.380 It's, it's an allegory, but it's also, uh, a record of historical events, but it's also

01:13:42.500 like this, this thing that speaks to the soul.

01:13:44.960 Um, the church doesn't do that.

01:13:49.320 And I think everybody comes to God in their own time, in their own way.

01:13:55.260 And like, this is what I needed.

01:13:56.940 It was a tailored experience for me because even the fact that like it was happening to

01:14:01.260 me wasn't enough because my own self-preservation skills are trash.

01:14:05.320 You know, I have a fucking lump on my nut right now.

01:14:08.040 I got to go check out at the doctors.

01:14:09.620 I keep putting this shit off.

01:14:10.660 I lost, I got, I had fucking cancer.

01:14:12.460 I have one ball, I'm much faster now, but I have one nut and I'm experiencing it right

01:14:17.620 now where I'm like, I can't take care of myself.

01:14:21.140 It has to happen to somebody else close to me for me to really light a fire under my ass.

01:14:25.600 So the fact that it happened to me and I was able to see it, I think that was the key.

01:14:30.640 I saw it.

01:14:31.860 So when my wife described it and my son described it, it all clicked together.

01:14:36.160 I saw this thing.

01:14:37.860 And even when I saw it, it wasn't enough.

01:14:40.140 And when my wife saw it, it still wasn't enough because I didn't want to instill fear.

01:14:45.380 But when my son saw it, I didn't have the luxury anymore of disbelief.

01:14:50.080 I didn't have the luxury of, of not wanting to instill fear.

01:14:53.700 That shit was gone.

01:14:54.800 Fear had been instilled and it was like time to act.

01:14:57.300 And that's what, so when you said that whole desperation thing coming from the soul, like

01:15:00.420 I was desperate as a motherfucker, dude.

01:15:02.240 Like I had to get something going immediately.

01:15:05.360 I couldn't allow it to go on for one more night.

01:15:07.780 You know, I wasn't like, eh, maybe he saw some shit and it wasn't that, you know, or

01:15:12.120 this ends now.

01:15:13.440 Yeah, this is exactly.

01:15:14.700 This shit ends now.

01:15:15.940 Exactly.

01:15:16.680 That's incredible.

01:15:17.660 Listen, man, I think this has been a great conversation.

01:15:21.020 And I told you I had, I had like an hour because I got to go get my wife.

01:15:25.020 We, we're going to put a pin in this.

01:15:26.860 We'll put a pin in this conversation.

01:15:28.200 Um, maybe we'll do it on your show next time you host your show and I'm, I'll re-listen

01:15:34.020 to this and we'll pick up exactly where, where we're leaving off now, because I, I could

01:15:38.900 talk to you for another two hours, but I know, I know, listen, I'm scared of, you know, demons

01:15:44.560 and stuff like this, but my wife should rip my fucking head off.

01:15:48.900 So, so listen, tell us, uh, tell, tell my people where they could find you, where they

01:15:53.960 could follow you.

01:15:54.600 I'm going to put all your stuff in the description when I, when I have the time to update this

01:15:58.000 stuff.

01:15:58.340 Go ahead, man.

01:15:59.780 Uh, so you guys can find me on YouTube and on Spotify at the Ravens watch.

01:16:05.140 Um, you can find me on Instagram at the Ravens watch, although Instagram is dead and it's

01:16:09.140 kind of boring.

01:16:10.220 Uh, but if you want to interact with me and bounce anything off me, you can always find

01:16:13.980 me at David underscore Lee underscore Corbo.

01:16:17.560 That's C O R B O.

01:16:18.920 You could find me there on Twitter.

01:16:20.800 Uh, and I do a lot of my interacting on there.

01:16:22.860 And if you have some sort of story or, or, you know, anything that you'd want to throw

01:16:26.840 at me, you can always email me at the Ravens watch seven, seven, seven at gmail.com.

01:16:32.740 Hell yeah, man.

01:16:33.660 Hell yeah.

01:16:34.040 Thank you again for coming and talk with me.

01:16:36.980 This was a, this was great.

01:16:38.000 We're going to do it again.

01:16:39.100 We're going to do it again.

01:16:39.760 This is the top lobster show episode three.

01:16:41.920 I think.

01:16:42.800 Thank you for, thanks for listening guys.

01:16:44.480 And we'll see you.

01:16:45.300 Uh, we'll see you next time.

01:16:47.020 Peace out.

01:16:47.340 The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:16:52.940 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:16:57.100 If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, you've

01:17:02.380 got them.

01:17:03.480 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.

01:17:10.140 And they have.

01:17:11.000 And they have.

01:17:11.840 And they have.

01:17:12.500 And they have.

01:17:13.720 And they have.

01:17:14.680 And they have.

01:17:15.600 And they have.

01:17:16.140 And they have.

01:17:16.720 And they have.

01:17:17.360 And they have.

01:17:18.060 And they have.

01:17:18.600 And they have.

01:17:19.920 They have.

01:17:20.940 And they have.

01:17:21.640 And they have.

01:17:23.000 And, but they.

01:17:23.780 And they have.

01:17:23.940 And, but that seems where you canünden them.

01:17:25.960 Are you going to leave?

01:17:27.800 And they have it.

01:17:29.240 And it has to learn how to innovate.

01:17:30.540 And it has to decide.

01:17:32.640 And they have.

01:17:33.780 And they have.

01:17:35.900 Oh, okay.

01:17:36.720 So.

01:17:37.660 He's doing it.

01:17:38.600 He's doing it.

01:17:39.120 So.

01:17:39.920 He's doing it.

01:17:40.360 He's doing it.

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