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00:01:24.140 Come on out of there, whoever you are.

00:01:31.120 They were giving them acid.

00:01:33.100 They were giving them LSD.

00:01:34.640 So it was MKUltra, and then they did it on a world stage with the hippie movement. 0.63

00:01:40.460 It's not surprising that the information age is characterized by a lot of knowledge, but not wisdom.

00:01:59.720 The only people that should be transphobic are unattended minors.

00:02:11.340 Yeah, children. 1.00

00:02:12.320 You fucking training retard. 1.00

00:02:14.240 Here we go. 1.00

00:02:14.500 How to make espresso.

00:02:16.240 And you know it's going to be great coffee.

00:02:18.760 Dick Cheney, Joe Biden, J6, Secret Service, assassination attempt on Trump.

00:02:41.180 And she's involved with all of that somehow? 1.00

00:02:43.880 He's certainly not in that position because she's good at her fucking job. 1.00

00:02:48.760 We were taught that. 1.00

00:03:02.080 I was taught that.

00:03:02.720 We were taught that growing up that they were upset about a 2% T-tax, and they rioted, and whatever.

00:03:06.680 So what King George did, he sent in a standing army at peacetime.

00:03:11.020 They were militarized there.

00:03:12.200 How are you able to be up on an altar guiding people when you within yourself don't even know where you stand?

00:03:26.080 There's only a certain amount of years that humans will be subservient to a system before they all start to snap.

00:03:38.460 What do you think about the topic of adrenochrome being this, like, secular description of that exactly, of, like, this royal jelly?

00:03:51.160 And I said, well, how do you know you're trans?

00:03:59.200 He goes, no, you don't get it.

00:04:00.400 And I thought, is trans just rainbow goth?

00:04:03.280 In Texas recently, they had banned abortion.

00:04:12.580 The women were upset. 0.98

00:04:13.980 And then a few weeks later, there was a school shooting, and the women were upset again. 0.70

00:04:18.640 And I was like, well, are we killing kids or not?

00:04:21.100 Babies, get away! 1.00

00:04:23.100 What's going on in my house?

00:04:25.140 You're saying Joe Rogan likes to squirt? 1.00

00:04:37.160 You got so roughly fucked by a giant black cock that your anus literally fell out. 1.00

00:04:42.360 The only food we're getting involved here is the titty milk. 1.00

00:04:45.560 That's it.

00:04:46.520 The kingdom of God.

00:04:48.340 The kingdom of heaven.

00:04:50.340 Take that step.

00:04:51.940 Bless your heart.

00:04:53.080 Take that step.

00:04:54.600 And when I stand on the mountain and I say, do it, it gets done.

00:04:58.360 If it don't get done, then I'll move on it.

00:05:10.340 That's not God.

00:05:11.320 You've created a Frankenbaby out of, you know, a bunch of different ideas that all contradict each other. 0.96

00:05:16.740 And, you know, none of them are very well thought out.

00:05:18.880 But it's very much like a child's way of throwing a tantrum and a bit of a fit.

00:05:23.680 There's no understating the correlation between the increase in technology and the decrease in spirituality.

00:05:29.980 We've, like, exponentially went up in technology and people are just completely spiritually retarded. 0.98

00:05:53.680 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:06:02.920 Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers. 0.99

00:06:07.140 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:06:16.080 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely huge.

00:06:21.840 Oh, yeah, dude. 1.00

00:06:23.180 There's some Nephilim shit. 1.00

00:06:24.380 It's like we all know what's going down. 1.00

00:06:27.000 We know we're saying shit what happened to the home of the brave. 1.00

00:06:30.480 Motherf***ers, they're controlling this now. 1.00

00:06:32.200 We know we're talking about how they made us try to be slaves. 1.00

00:06:35.320 And everybody's just walking around.

00:06:37.420 Heading to clouds and we're awake until we're dead in the grave.

00:06:40.540 But it's too late.

00:06:41.520 We need to be ready to raise up.

00:06:43.340 Welcome to the end of day.

00:06:45.020 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:06:56.020 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.

00:06:59.500 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.

00:07:03.520 And today we are joined by two guests in Jonathan and Jacob of the Cult of Conspiracy podcast.

00:07:10.440 We have a pretty interesting topic that we're going to get into today.

00:07:13.380 But before we do all that, gentlemen, can you please let's start with Jonathan.

00:07:17.520 Introduce yourselves a little bit to the people who may not know you and let them know where it is they can find your work and what it is you focus on.

00:07:24.620 All right.

00:07:25.320 So I'm Jonathan.

00:07:26.440 The name of our podcast is The Cult of Conspiracy.

00:07:29.040 We have been going at it for about four years, a little bit over four years now.

00:07:33.440 And we are just constantly hammering on not only modern day, you know, kind of conspiracies, but, you know, the old ones that we all know and that we love and stuff like that.

00:07:45.400 And maybe maybe old ones that you've never even heard of.

00:07:48.360 And so we kind of are very stretched across the board as far as everything that we'll cover.

00:07:52.880 We do get into a lot of conspiracies, obviously, but then there's also like spiritual assets that are also brought in.

00:08:00.080 And that's really why we decided to come with this topic here, because Jacob and I are very different.

00:08:08.380 We are.

00:08:09.020 That's my best friend.

00:08:09.920 My ride or die. 0.99

00:08:10.860 I never you know, if there's a fucking Armageddon like that's the guy I'm calling. 0.97

00:08:15.420 I wish I felt the same about my. 0.96

00:08:17.260 I knew it.

00:08:17.840 I knew it was coming. 1.00

00:08:18.740 You terrible piece of shit. 1.00

00:08:20.220 Unbelievable. 1.00

00:08:20.540 But that being said, we have very different philosophies about how we look at faith and just spirituality in general.

00:08:27.640 I come from more of what you might call the woo woo and Jacob on the other end, Christian.

00:08:34.040 So this topic right here was very fun for us to put together back whenever we first put it together, because he's looking at it from that Christian mindset.

00:08:42.260 And I look at it from the the spiritual philosopher, I guess, if you will.

00:08:47.880 And so, yeah, I think that's what makes the show, you know, tick is that it's not necessarily an echo chamber.

00:08:54.180 It's two different opinions and people coming together.

00:08:56.300 And, you know, we usually always end up with the same opinion, though, coming at it from two different areas, either the same opinion, or at least we can appreciate the opposite vantage point from a different perspective.

00:09:09.700 Which and that's the thing.

00:09:11.040 So Jonathan being more of the spiritual person, he is a licensed hypnotherapist who specializes in past life regressions and speaking to the higher self.

00:09:18.780 Meanwhile, I am a Marine Corps infantry veteran.

00:09:21.520 I am a Christian and I'm a conspiracy head.

00:09:23.800 So we come from very different places when we approach any type of conspiracy, whether that be JFK assassination, the 9-11 debacle, or if we're going all the way back to the Sumerian tablets and to the ancient texts and everything in between.

00:09:37.780 So I look at things from a very, quote unquote, logical, analytical standpoint.

00:09:42.300 Jonathan looks at things from a very esoteric and third eye vantage point.

00:09:46.760 And so a lot of times we clash.

00:09:48.700 We don't agree on a lot of things.

00:09:50.560 That's kind of an inherent property of this.

00:09:53.200 But the back and forth itself is kind of what makes this show what it is.

00:09:56.880 I got hooked up with Jonathan about six months after the Cult of Conspiracy had launched, and it's pretty much just been all gas, no brakes ever since.

00:10:05.740 You know, one thing led to another, and we're rapidly approaching coming up on 600 episodes released.

00:10:10.580 It's just it's been a wild ride, bro.

00:10:13.800 Interesting.

00:10:14.480 I'm kind of stuck on are you a practicing hypnotherapist right now?

00:10:19.260 And what else?

00:10:20.540 Yeah, it's it's it's hypnotherapy, but it's past life regressions.

00:10:25.900 And so if anybody's ever heard of Dolores Cannon, she developed this this thing called QHHT, which stands for quantum healing hypnosis therapy. 0.73

00:10:34.100 And it guides people to a past life through hypnosis.

00:10:37.840 And then afterward, you know, typically people will, you know, give me some questions that they would like me to ask their higher self after the past life.

00:10:48.860 And those questions, I mean, you're talking about questions that people would want to ask the universe, ask God, ask spirit guides or whatever.

00:10:57.400 And so obviously it's unthinkable, it's unknowable information that that you're searching for.

00:11:04.560 And what's great about it is, is that you're you're getting those answers, but they're coming out of your mouth.

00:11:11.360 So you can call it channeling.

00:11:13.060 You can call it, you know, just conversations with your higher self or your highest self or whatever the highest ascended version of you or whatever is.

00:11:21.160 But those answers are coming through.

00:11:23.160 And as a matter of fact, I actually hypnotized Jacob about a year ago, somebody who doesn't even believe in reincarnation outside of one person and doesn't believe in past lives.

00:11:33.940 And yet I was able to hypnotize him.

00:11:35.700 He had a whole life as a Muslim, by the way.

00:11:38.800 And all the questions that he had asked were all the things that I could see that.

00:11:43.480 Can you see him in a cave?

00:11:46.400 Yeah, I can't tell if you can see what's behind me, but I do boo hurt.

00:11:49.240 I do armored combat.

00:11:50.340 Right. So like cage fighting with steel and swords and shit. 0.99

00:11:53.400 That's what I. 0.99

00:11:54.300 Yeah.

00:11:54.960 Wait, wait, wait.

00:11:55.660 This is crazy.

00:11:56.400 Stop it.

00:11:57.000 Wait, wait.

00:11:57.720 This is what I'm saying.

00:11:58.720 We're not talking about the shroud of Tehran right now.

00:12:01.960 You guys know that, right?

00:12:03.180 We're not.

00:12:03.500 We're not.

00:12:04.200 This is what I do.

00:12:05.160 Like, I'm actually the team captain of my local team.

00:12:07.380 All right.

00:12:07.660 So we beat the hell out of each other wearing 80 pounds of steel arm and we go completely ham.

00:12:11.460 It's a, it's a blast.

00:12:12.560 Rick's doing a good time.

00:12:13.660 But, but, and me being a Christian who does these things, all of that.

00:12:17.260 Jonathan hypnotized me and we have been teasing our cult members, as we call our listeners,

00:12:22.380 our cult members for a long time saying, fine, I'll finally do it.

00:12:25.280 I'll get hypnotized.

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00:12:53.360 I'm going to tell you right now, I don't believe in reincarnation.

00:12:58.400 I don't believe in past lives, but I also cannot cleanly describe logically what that

00:13:06.100 was.

00:13:06.660 Okay.

00:13:07.100 I lived an entire life as a Muslim dude who was fighting alongside the Christians during

00:13:12.100 the crusades.

00:13:13.260 Okay.

00:13:13.800 The entire life and all of this.

00:13:15.340 Now, could that.

00:13:16.440 In the hypnosis?

00:13:17.680 Yes.

00:13:18.040 In the hypnosis.

00:13:18.340 So, there was a time dilation issue, right?

00:13:20.940 Because you would have had a lot of experiences in a relatively short amount of time.

00:13:24.560 There's a story with Ari Shafir.

00:13:25.860 Ari Shafir takes, he's a stand-up comedian.

00:13:28.160 He takes.

00:13:29.180 I love Ari Shafir, dude.

00:13:30.400 What's the, I've smoked it before, Salvia.

00:13:33.980 He takes Salvia and he ends up going on this trip where he has an entire life underwater.

00:13:37.940 He's got a family.

00:13:38.840 He's got a job.

00:13:39.820 He lives under the ocean somehow.

00:13:41.580 Um, and it was so real that when he came out of this experience, there was actually

00:13:45.340 like, um, uh, you know, a longing for this family that he had left.

00:13:50.200 That's how real this experience was.

00:13:51.600 And I don't know what to do with that information.

00:13:53.740 When I hear ideas about reincarnation, um, I'm also a Christian, but I believe that there,

00:13:59.100 we, we talked to somebody one time, or maybe it was I who talked to him, uh, who said that

00:14:03.320 he had an entity that was a hitchhiker essentially.

00:14:05.540 And he had a relationship with this entity and this thing would loose off of his energy.

00:14:09.020 And who knows if this story is real or not, but one of the things that I found interesting

00:14:12.340 that he said was that there is, uh, a karmic system and there is a reincarnation cycle, but

00:14:17.960 it was not created by God.

00:14:19.320 If it was created by God, it would be perfect.

00:14:20.680 It was created by angels.

00:14:22.600 Uh, God commissioned them to create it.

00:14:24.400 Allegedly, this is all just, you know, something secondhand that he has from this entity who

00:14:27.600 knows if it's even real, but that, um, because it's not created by God and it's not perfect.

00:14:32.580 It's kind of backed up and screwed up in a lot of ways over, over time and over generations.

00:14:37.240 Uh, it has become essentially a mess.

00:14:39.760 And I just thought that was fascinating because there are a lot of instances like what you're

00:14:44.160 describing where like, I just don't know where to place it, man.

00:14:46.020 I don't know what to do with a little boy who says, this is the house that I lived in.

00:14:49.160 This is the family that I had.

00:14:50.200 We had a dog.

00:14:50.900 I died in the ocean.

00:14:51.940 And then they all said, they go to his house and they find out, well, yeah, there was a

00:14:54.980 little boy that passed away here.

00:14:56.400 Let me, let me ask a question to Jonathan.

00:14:58.060 What is hypnosis?

00:14:59.240 And I don't mean to cut you off in the story, but like, no, no, no, are you, are you, you're not

00:15:03.240 just putting somebody to sleep, but it's, are you transporting them to another dimension,

00:15:06.680 another realm where they are living this?

00:15:09.280 What is, um, I would ask you the same question, but referring to a dream.

00:15:13.920 What happens whenever you dream at night?

00:15:15.980 Are you going to another realm?

00:15:17.500 Are you going to another world?

00:15:18.960 I mean, this is all up for conjecture.

00:15:20.800 Are you, are you traversing the, the parallel realities that we're living in?

00:15:25.760 There's no way of really proving it.

00:15:27.380 So I don't know exactly what's going on.

00:15:29.960 However, I will say that Dolores Cannon, she is very famous or she was very famous.

00:15:34.920 She passed away in 2014, I believe, but she was very famous for having these crazy, like 0.90

00:15:41.280 insane stories within past life regressions.

00:15:44.740 So much so that she hypnotized a person and she went back to, well, I don't know if you

00:15:51.860 can even say that she went back.

00:15:53.240 She was basically talking to Nostradamus and was able to get all the information from

00:15:58.080 Nostradamus and essentially fill in the gaps that were left open for interpretation of

00:16:04.320 all of Nostradamus's prophecies. 0.99

00:16:06.680 And so this kind of crazy shit happens all the time. 0.98

00:16:09.540 And what's even crazier about that is that not only was she able to hypnotize that person 0.98

00:16:13.960 to talk to Nostradamus, that person ended up having to move out of state.

00:16:18.760 So she wasn't able to get hypnotized by Dolores anymore.

00:16:20.980 But what she said was during that last hypnosis with this person who was essentially Nostradamus,

00:16:27.760 I guess you could say, is that the next person you hypnotize, you will be able to receive

00:16:32.820 information from me.

00:16:34.700 And sure as hell, that's what happened.

00:16:37.420 The next person that she hypnotized didn't tell this story to, didn't relay that information

00:16:42.000 to, was able to get information from Nostradamus to continue on filling in all of the intricacies

00:16:49.040 and all the interpretations that were lost and filled them in and created a whole book

00:16:53.660 like to be able to better understand Nostradamus's prophecy.

00:16:57.600 So call that what you want.

00:17:00.020 But like, I believe.

00:17:02.640 And also another thing that Nostradamus was saying in this hypnosis was that you're not

00:17:08.300 time traveling.

00:17:09.520 You're talking to me in real time.

00:17:11.680 I'm here.

00:17:12.520 There is no such thing as past.

00:17:14.020 There is no such thing as the future.

00:17:15.240 The only thing that is real is the present moment.

00:17:18.080 And so everything, whenever you think about the past, it's just a memory.

00:17:21.260 Whenever you think about the future, it's just imagining or dreaming what it could be.

00:17:25.760 There actually is no proof that the future or the past actually exists in our minds, in

00:17:31.940 our minds.

00:17:32.940 And that would begin to, I'm sorry to cut you off, but that would begin to beg the question

00:17:36.440 of like, was there a time when Nostradamus was, you know, pondering and all of a sudden

00:17:40.720 this face kind of peeks through a veil.

00:17:42.820 We were talking to Juan Ayala recently.

00:17:45.700 And one of the things he talked about was these ascended masters, right?

00:17:48.900 Those alchemists who reached their magnum opus, basically transcending this reality. 1.00

00:17:53.780 But popping up back again through history, different characters will tell stories about,

00:17:59.580 yeah, suddenly I was in this moment in my lab.

00:18:02.440 I was working on this creation.

00:18:03.740 I was pondering this equation or question or philosophical quandary.

00:18:07.600 And then all of a sudden, somebody pops through the veil and says, hey, you're on the right

00:18:12.040 track, keep it going, and then pops back through.

00:18:14.440 And the way they were described or the name that was given was somebody who hasn't been

00:18:18.400 seen in, you know, centuries.

00:18:21.300 But the last known writings about them were that they were an alchemist trying to, you

00:18:25.780 know, do the great works.

00:18:26.760 And so I just wonder, you know, when it comes to that is like, is there a time?

00:18:30.200 I understand this idea that time is not the present moment.

00:18:34.380 Yeah, it's not linear, right?

00:18:35.380 They often say it's like a flat disk.

00:18:37.240 But this idea that somewhere on that flat disk, Nostradamus was hanging out and then

00:18:43.680 all of a sudden had some chick pop through and ask him a couple of questions. 1.00

00:18:47.760 Well, and on top of that, going back to what you were saying about the angel or whatever

00:18:52.120 that created this kind of like reincarnation, possibly like time loop or whatever.

00:18:57.140 This is actually something that the Buddhists talk about.

00:18:59.620 They talk about ascending beyond that and the idea that you can get out of this reincarnation

00:19:05.460 cycle, which is known as samsara.

00:19:07.880 And that samsara is that continuous loop.

00:19:10.920 All right. 1.00

00:19:11.100 You die, you come back. 1.00

00:19:12.040 You die, you come back. 0.96

00:19:12.800 They're trying to get away from that and ascend into heaven or whatever it is.

00:19:17.300 And so, yeah, this is something that, you know, it's I mean, it might sound crazy.

00:19:21.800 Who's to know, dude?

00:19:22.660 I mean, it's all speculation until we get there.

00:19:24.680 I mean, let's want to take it on faith.

00:19:25.980 I don't think there's nothing wrong with taking it on faith either, I think.

00:19:28.840 Let me let me ask you this, because I have I've had this theory.

00:19:31.100 I don't know.

00:19:31.300 Are you guys also into politics sort of?

00:19:33.580 I literally my YouTube channel drops a lot of geopolitical news stuff.

00:19:37.940 So, yeah, a little bit. 0.97

00:19:39.280 OK, so shit, I kind of like lost my train of thought there. 0.99

00:19:44.500 No, no, no. 1.00

00:19:45.000 All right.

00:19:45.320 So with politics, I look around and I look at the people.

00:19:48.760 And when you're looking at this left right dynamic, you're looking at people almost on

00:19:52.840 both sides as well, but like like kind of there's like it's not the extremes, but it's

00:19:56.580 a corner of it where they are clearly NPC being programmed to do this or do that.

00:20:01.900 Yeah.

00:20:02.320 OK, these people, do they have a soul is what I'm questioning.

00:20:08.000 Like if we are in this reincarnation loop, because I'm not I'm a Christian, but I think

00:20:13.160 that there is something to that.

00:20:15.060 I think that there is something to this loop.

00:20:17.020 It comes up too many times.

00:20:18.580 Can I piggyback off of that real quick, just so I think you you're having the same thought

00:20:23.080 that I am, which comes from, I believe, the same character who shared that karmic, you

00:20:28.020 know, creation idea with us.

00:20:30.040 And one of the other things he said was that there will come a time and, you know, this 0.68

00:20:34.840 is just the ramblings of a dude who admittedly would would he would say he's a crazy dude.

00:20:39.900 You know, he's really there as far as his his facilities, you know, or his faculties,

00:20:44.640 rather, he seems sound.

00:20:46.140 But this is just the story that he told us.

00:20:47.760 And so one of the things he said was that this entity who's been around since before

00:20:52.440 the time of Jesus says, like, yeah, reincarnation is real, but there is going to come a time

00:20:58.740 where already there's a disproportionate amount of souls to flesh and that there will come

00:21:04.560 a time when the last soul is born.

00:21:06.780 And what he thinks is when that time comes is when we're really going to see sort of,

00:21:11.920 you know, the closing of an age, you know, something apocalyptic in nature.

00:21:16.260 But that idea that there's not enough soul to match the amount of flesh that's being

00:21:20.720 produced is kind of falls into the NPC thing.

00:21:23.600 So why they're like, start killing all the babies like, yeah, we don't have any more souls.

00:21:27.940 There's levels and levels of why they started killing all the babies, not just Planned Parenthood.

00:21:32.200 You can go all the way back to the Roman society.

00:21:34.200 They had a certain plant that was so popular in use for abortions that they actually put 0.99

00:21:39.760 it on the back of their fucking coins. 1.00

00:21:41.540 By the way, I'm a Christian that cusses a lot, y'all. 1.00

00:21:43.960 I'm yeah, I'm not the type that looks, acts or sounds like one.

00:21:48.180 OK, my walk with God's my walk with God. 1.00

00:21:50.240 Fuck off. 1.00

00:21:50.700 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:21:51.140 But anyway, that being said, with the reincarnation conversation, I don't know what to make of

00:21:56.540 it.

00:21:56.860 OK, now, yes, I may not personally believe in it.

00:21:59.360 However, I would be out of my mind to dismiss all of the near death experiences of profound

00:22:05.900 things that they come and wake up from.

00:22:07.780 They were pronounced dead for X amount of time and they saw something or these children

00:22:11.300 that as soon as they're able to speak, have this vast knowledge about how to fly an airplane 0.98

00:22:15.780 or some shit and have never stepped foot in a cockpit before. 0.98

00:22:18.860 I can't neatly tie that in. 0.99

00:22:21.380 What I am willing to acknowledge is that there's way more at play here than what my human brain

00:22:25.920 can intake.

00:22:27.240 And I'm OK with that.

00:22:28.220 I see the Bible as a source, not an all-encompassing book, start to finish of everything that ever

00:22:33.600 will be, was or has been.

00:22:35.200 I see our Bible as our manna.

00:22:37.100 It is our portion.

00:22:38.080 It is not too little or too much for us.

00:22:40.320 It's exactly what we needed to hear for what we need to know.

00:22:43.420 With that being said, the past life regression that Jonathan put me through, I don't know

00:22:48.060 what to make of it.

00:22:48.820 I can tell you that the closest thing I can make to it is think of a mushroom-induced trip

00:22:54.340 with no mushrooms or outside sources or inhibitors whatsoever.

00:22:58.220 You actually have that.

00:23:00.240 Yeah.

00:23:00.920 But as far as having a trippy experience that is real, you smell the smells, you feel the

00:23:05.440 feels, you see the things.

00:23:06.820 All of that is as real to you as what you're seeing before your eyes right now.

00:23:10.720 But then you wake up from it.

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00:23:38.260 Now, I don't know what to call it.

00:23:41.880 Is that, is Jonathan putting you into a dream state and that's what happens when your imagination

00:23:45.860 just goes off the leash and just meanders and this is what comes up?

00:23:49.240 Was there a kernel of truth to that?

00:23:50.820 That somewhere deep within my recessive DNA came out?

00:23:54.280 Did Jonathan dose you?

00:23:55.220 No.

00:23:55.720 I can promise you I was over.

00:23:57.480 That's the thing.

00:23:58.080 Jonathan is-

00:23:58.580 Next time, let him dose you.

00:24:00.000 I thought about it.

00:24:00.260 Let's see what happens.

00:24:00.980 I thought about next time, maybe taking a little DMT, see what happens.

00:24:04.160 But I'm going to be honest, man.

00:24:05.480 I want these experiences to be profound and real and I don't want to be able to chalk it

00:24:10.080 up to, oh, well, that's just because I was high.

00:24:11.860 Oh, that's just because-

00:24:12.600 No, I want to be able to say for sure, this was Jacob experiencing this for Jacob.

00:24:16.740 And I got to say, it's profound.

00:24:19.920 It is.

00:24:20.060 Look, they've also gotten into, like, if you look at some of the laws of thermodynamics,

00:24:24.580 I think it's the third or fourth law of thermodynamics that says that energy can't be created

00:24:28.600 or destroyed, only transferred.

00:24:29.940 So that is, in my opinion, all the scientific proof that you would need to say, all right,

00:24:36.520 look, we don't know if we're going to a heaven.

00:24:39.620 We don't know if we're going to another realm or another parallel universe or something.

00:24:43.920 But something is absolutely happening when we die.

00:24:46.700 We don't just disperse into nothingness.

00:24:49.000 That whatever you are, the energy that encompasses you goes on.

00:24:54.100 It doesn't end when the lights go out in this human avatar.

00:24:57.600 And so that's why I love the past life regression stuff.

00:25:02.180 And I'm not saying that, like, I absolutely believe that this is what's happening.

00:25:06.680 Like, I want to believe that.

00:25:09.000 I have hints of things that may want to guide me into believing that.

00:25:15.400 But I can't say 100% sure.

00:25:17.520 You know, like, that in and of itself is kind of a faith-based mentality, which, you know, I think that faith is, you know, it's obviously warranted in a lot of, like, specific spiritual conversations.

00:25:31.600 But that's not a way to prove it.

00:25:34.260 And so, yeah, it's wild, dude.

00:25:37.460 This is something that I was thinking about while you're talking to me about this idea of this past life thing.

00:25:41.640 It's like you have these instances of people that get into traumatic head injuries, right?

00:25:45.520 And then suddenly they know a different language or they can play piano or they're inexplicably good at mathematics for whatever reason.

00:25:50.980 Even though these people, you couldn't argue that there's a genetic, you know, reason.

00:25:55.820 It's not like your grandfather was a fantastic mathematician or, you know, was a professional pianist or anything like that.

00:26:01.920 Well, you see, the average IQ of a Haitian is 67. 1.00

00:26:05.820 Don't get me started on this shit. 0.99

00:26:08.340 But, look, the thing that I'm getting at here is, like, okay, if you can have a head injury and suddenly gain access to something that's not in your wheelhouse, right? 0.99

00:26:20.460 That suggests that you're tapping into something.

00:26:23.080 When it comes to these regressive hypnosis things or past life memories, could there be something like the Akashic Records being responsible for it, right?

00:26:32.840 This idea that the collective memories and experiences of everything in the universe all goes to one consolidated place, whether it's, you know, in another realm or wherever the case may be.

00:26:43.320 But maybe, dependent on how you tune the receiver, tune your brain, you're actually dipping into.

00:26:49.760 So maybe you're having very real experiences that actually did happen, whether it's in this reality or another reality or something, you know, people want to get into the multiverse.

00:26:57.940 But that doesn't necessarily mean that it was your soul being recycled.

00:27:05.540 Really, what happened is you tapped into, and I'm not saying this is just a theory, you tapped into the greater body of experiences of humankind.

00:27:15.540 So, I will read you a piece of the induction.

00:27:22.060 Well, it's not necessarily the induction, but whenever I hypnotize somebody, I do have an induction method. 0.99

00:27:27.120 He's going to make us fucking get naked on stream. 0.99

00:27:29.160 This dude's about to hypnotize us. 1.00

00:27:31.680 Hypnotize the audience.

00:27:32.580 Tell them to pay us.

00:27:33.240 Tell them to pay us. 1.00

00:27:34.100 You're pulling your dick out right now. 1.00

00:27:36.940 Oh, I'm driving to the Patreon. 1.00

00:27:40.100 You're going there now.

00:27:41.720 Top tier.

00:27:43.040 But no, there's something very interesting.

00:27:44.880 And whenever people like to say, oh, I got this information from God.

00:27:47.580 I got it from the Akashic Records.

00:27:48.960 I think that it actually might be a little bit more simple than that, strictly based upon what I'm saying in this session.

00:27:57.160 So, at the end of the session or at the end of the past life, like I said, I'm trying to guide you to your higher self or your subconscious to be able to answer certain questions that you have that you just can't seem to crack the code to.

00:28:08.480 And one of the things that I say is, is that I respect the power of the subconscious or the higher self because I know the subconscious takes care of so-and-so's body and does a very good job of it.

00:28:20.020 I also know that the subconscious has all the records of everything that has ever happened to so-and-so in this lifetime and all the other lifetimes that they have ever lived.

00:28:29.980 So, I think it's possible that whenever you look at this kind of information and you couple it with the fact that even biblically and a bunch of other religious scripts, they all say that God is within you.

00:28:45.340 And if God is everything, then that means that everything is within you.

00:28:48.640 I look at it that way.

00:28:50.220 And so, I think that it's probably hard to really connect with that at a conscious level.

00:28:54.640 But at a subconscious level, there are strands that you can start to pull.

00:28:58.000 And maybe this is where people get downloaded information or this is where people will get certain prophecies or whatever that connection to God or the all or the source or the universe, whatever you want to call it.

00:29:12.260 That is all within you.

00:29:14.200 It's just that you got to tune the antenna a little bit, you know?

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00:29:43.380 I think that's...

00:30:13.380 So, like, when you open up this doorway, how could you be sure of, like, what you're getting through?

00:30:18.060 But actually, you're not asking for outside sources.

00:30:21.680 When he hypnotizes, you're going introspective.

00:30:23.760 You're going within oneself.

00:30:25.880 And also, you are protected.

00:30:28.220 Like, there are certain things that you can say whenever you're in meditation or you're trying to perform some kind of ritual or whatever,

00:30:35.700 if you believe in that kind of stuff, that there are certain things that you can say and your subconscious mind begins to accept.

00:30:42.440 And in my induction method, I have it to where whenever somebody is getting ready to be hypnotized,

00:30:48.040 before they are even hypnotized, they are subconsciously understanding the fact that whatever is going on,

00:30:55.720 they are in this, like, kind of protective bubble that nothing from the outside could possibly come in.

00:31:00.880 And therefore, maybe that suggests that you're not allowing information from any kind of outside source into that bubble,

00:31:08.460 that, you know, all the information that you're getting and receiving is strictly from you.

00:31:14.400 That's...

00:31:14.900 Now, that's, you know, that's what's in the induction method.

00:31:17.860 You can say, all right, well, who's to say that a demon can't poke that bubble and sneak their way through there?

00:31:22.580 That's all conjecture.

00:31:24.100 Let me ask you this.

00:31:25.000 You mentioned at the top of the show that even though you come from different kind of practices or ideologies,

00:31:30.700 that you often come to the same conclusion.

00:31:32.440 And I'm not asking you for specifics, but, like, what do those conclusions often look like?

00:31:36.700 Well, an example would be exactly what we're talking about right here as far as the Shroud of Turin of Jesus.

00:31:42.860 Although we may have our different understandings and philosophies as to how this was printed

00:31:51.880 onto this Shroud, we both believe that it was the actual human living being of Jesus of Nazareth in whatever, 30 A.D.

00:32:03.900 Yeah.

00:32:04.640 And so I'm going to be honest with you.

00:32:06.480 When we first looked into the Shroud of Turin, and I'm glad this was an awesome segue to bring in how we do that,

00:32:12.380 another example is he and I can both acknowledge what true evil is and what true good is.

00:32:17.000 For instance, pedophilic rings of the elites.

00:32:20.680 We have no problem being on the same side of that argument and dying on the hill of protecting babies.

00:32:25.940 You know what I mean? 0.97

00:32:26.380 So more often than not, when you go up the chain of shitheads, we actually do end up on the same footing.

00:32:31.640 But when it came to the Shroud of Turin, Jonathan reached out to me about this.

00:32:35.520 This was back episode 100 and something for he and I.

00:32:38.400 This was years ago.

00:32:39.700 And he said, bro, we need to talk about the Shroud of Turin.

00:32:42.540 And being a Christian, I knew about it.

00:32:44.620 And I had known a couple of things.

00:32:46.160 I didn't know the lengths and depths of it that we're going to go over today.

00:32:49.260 But I was like, are you sure?

00:32:51.340 He's like, dude, like the whole thing, we got to talk about it.

00:32:54.700 I'm like, I mean, you don't have to threaten me with a good time, bro.

00:32:57.320 I'm all about talking about things I believe in.

00:32:59.560 But like, okay, sure.

00:33:01.080 And through this research, he and I both came to a very real understanding that while forgeries may have existed,

00:33:10.980 and while there is a camp of thought to say that the Shroud itself is a forgery,

00:33:15.660 if this is a forgery, then this is the people who created it somewhere around the 1500s were so smart and so slick at creating a forgery

00:33:26.020 that not only did they get blood types right, not only did they get the scourge marks from the beatings right,

00:33:32.300 but they got the actual dirt from Jerusalem in 0 AD correct.

00:33:38.360 These people were such master forgers in the 1500s that we still can't tell the difference today.

00:33:43.980 That's what we're left with.

00:33:44.900 So beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt, Jonathan and I can fully stand on the firm footing that the Shroud of Torin at one time did,

00:33:53.820 in fact, hold the body of Yeshua of Nazareth that we know to be Jesus Christ.

00:33:59.520 And by the way, you know, there obviously, I don't know if everybody knows the whole story about, you know,

00:34:06.680 whenever he was taken down from the cross and put into the tomb and with the with the shroud or anything.

00:34:11.420 So maybe give a little bit of a.

00:34:12.960 That's exactly what I was going to thank you so much for doing that,

00:34:15.480 because that's exactly what I was going to recommend for those people who might not know.

00:34:18.060 I have a peripheral knowledge of it.

00:34:19.820 You know, it seems pretty self-explanatory and I've watched some videos and such,

00:34:23.040 but I would really appreciate let's lay out what exactly the shroud is.

00:34:26.800 And then we can get into what sounds like a little bit of indication for you guys,

00:34:29.880 because like we discussed earlier, they came out and they they said that they've dated it back to about 2000 years old.

00:34:36.280 So, I mean, you know, great big high five between the two of you.

00:34:38.740 So let's let's lay out a little bit of what what is the Shroud of Turin for those who may not know.

00:34:44.120 All right.

00:34:44.460 So let's just start at the top here.

00:34:46.180 The Shroud of Turin, a shroud or more specifically, a death shroud is a cloth that a person is buried in.

00:34:52.680 OK, it's traditionally been used in multiple cultures around the world.

00:34:55.920 Have either of you seen the movie Braveheart?

00:34:58.040 Yes.

00:34:58.420 Do you all remember the scene where when his first wife that he married in secret died,

00:35:02.520 they buried her in a secret place and she was wearing some sort of like mesh sheath looking cloth?

00:35:07.780 Yes.

00:35:08.400 This would be a death shroud.

00:35:09.540 Now, it's a traditional type that was used in Scotland at that time.

00:35:12.500 However, there are multiple cultures with traditions of using death shrouds.

00:35:16.480 The Jews, the Hebrews being one of them. 1.00

00:35:18.620 All right.

00:35:19.080 Now, the shroud in question is currently kept in Torino, Italy, and it is in the Piemont region,

00:35:25.020 hence where it gets the name Shroud of Turin.

00:35:26.640 OK, it's in the it is currently hailed in the Cathedral of St. John the Baptist in Turin, Italy,

00:35:31.660 and it's been there since 1578.

00:35:34.040 Now, the shroud itself in question, as we look at it, OK,

00:35:37.760 let's break down a little bit about how it was made, what's it made of and all these things.

00:35:41.420 But for the for the overarching theme of how it came to be, the story goes, Jesus was crucified.

00:35:47.860 But before that, he was beaten.

00:35:49.480 He was flogged.

00:35:50.340 He was scourged with a cat of nine tails.

00:35:52.020 This is a whip that has nine leather straps connected to the ends or pieces of metal, hooks, bone, whatever you want.

00:35:58.240 It was meant to rip flesh from bone.

00:36:00.340 OK, and he was beaten with this upwards of I want to say it was like 300, 400 times,

00:36:05.620 which is crazy because, well, actually, we'll get into the significance of the number of beatings later.

00:36:10.060 But anyway, he was beaten within an inch of his life.

00:36:13.300 A lot of prisoners died in the process of getting beaten in this manner.

00:36:16.660 But then he was made to carry his own cross, the implement of his own murder to the place of called Golgotha, 0.72

00:36:24.200 the Mount of Skulls, where the Romans did a lot of executions.

00:36:27.760 He was nailed to the cross.

00:36:28.840 He was left to suffocate and die. 0.84

00:36:30.660 Now, execution by crucifixion is the slowest way to suffocate a human being.

00:36:36.920 Still, to this day, there is no other method that comes close.

00:36:39.540 The Romans were able to figure this out through a very, very brutal means of trial and error.

00:36:43.400 It wasn't like Christianity is the only group that did the crucifixion jam.

00:36:47.640 Keep in mind, Spartacus and his whole uprising were crucified by the Roman government when they were finally put down.

00:36:53.400 So this was not a regular type of execution, but it was saved for the absolute most heinous and horrible criminals that Rome would come across.

00:37:02.400 So we know for a fact that whoever was hailed within the Shroud of Torrin was a crucifixion victim.

00:37:08.980 We can see that from the marks through the wrists and through the feet.

00:37:12.240 But also, there was only one example of a crown of thorns being placed onto a prisoner's head before their death.

00:37:19.200 In the negative of the Shroud of Torrin, we can clearly see those marks as well,

00:37:22.420 but I might be getting a little ahead of myself on the Shroud and what we actually see with it.

00:37:26.580 The Shroud is made of cheap materials, but is a very rare way that it's put together.

00:37:31.920 Think of this as a, you have like a hoodie.

00:37:34.440 Okay, now you have your Walmart brand hoodie and you have your name brand hoodie that costs $500.

00:37:38.880 They're made out of the same material, but one is more high quality.

00:37:42.360 You with me?

00:37:43.540 So the Shroud of Torrin was made with inexpensive materials, but in a high quality way.

00:37:48.880 It is, the cloth is woven into a three-in-one herringbone twill pattern.

00:37:53.180 It is very rare for the first century AD.

00:37:55.660 However, there has recently been another example discovered in a Roman encampment in Egypt.

00:38:00.520 They were doing some excavation.

00:38:02.060 They found this whole, I'm not sure if it was like a chest of clothing or what,

00:38:05.940 but they found clothing materials in this Roman encampment,

00:38:08.380 all having the same three-in-one herringbone twill pattern.

00:38:11.820 Rare, but this is yet another historical precedence of the fact that this cloth does date back to the first century AD in Rome.

00:38:19.580 This pattern is shown, like I said, in the Hungarian manuscript, as a matter of fact, in 1192.

00:38:25.020 I don't know if I'm able to share the screen.

00:38:27.200 Yeah, for sure.

00:38:28.180 Okay, I had a couple of images I wanted to pull up to show historical precedence to this.

00:38:32.560 Hold on.

00:38:33.440 How do we share screen? 0.58

00:38:34.700 Present.

00:38:35.460 Yeah, you're going to see a tab at the bottom that says present.

00:38:37.460 You'll click on that, and then it'll ask you for the tab that you want to share. 0.98

00:38:40.660 Oh, shit. 0.99

00:38:41.680 Man, you guys are killing it so far. 1.00

00:38:43.140 I am enthralled.

00:38:44.360 Yeah, dude.

00:38:45.100 Yeah, this is perfect.

00:38:46.320 Very, very pumped.

00:38:47.520 Okay, I am unable to do this.

00:38:49.460 If one of y'all could Google image Hungarian manuscript 1192,

00:38:55.500 I promise you'll see the picture that I'm talking about.

00:38:57.740 It's very, very popular on this one.

00:39:00.520 This manuscript also shows these L-shaped burn markings,

00:39:04.120 which we will discuss in a little bit,

00:39:05.680 but the fact that it was shown in 1192 is very important

00:39:08.860 because there was a fire in the 1500s that has been the subject of a lot of conjecture around the shroud.

00:39:13.620 But, again, getting ahead of myself.

00:39:15.320 The dimensions are currently 14 foot 6 inches by 3 foot 9 inches,

00:39:20.620 but this is after the shroud was steamed and stretched out in 2002.

00:39:25.160 The original dimensions did, in fact, line up with the traditional death shroud dimensions

00:39:30.780 that would have been around in the first century AD.

00:39:34.000 However, the stretching that took place, they were measured in cubits.

00:39:38.120 I should mention that.

00:39:38.860 So, the cubits to feet, it is a correct translation one-to-one.

00:39:42.980 The stretching in 2002 is what made it a different size these days.

00:39:46.020 Some of those images you'll see, there will be a body on the shroud,

00:39:48.860 and then right under it you'll see another one.

00:39:51.580 If you zoom in, hold on, scroll up.

00:39:58.300 I wish I could show them. 0.99

00:39:59.620 Damn. 0.99

00:40:00.160 All right, right there, where your cursor is. 1.00

00:40:01.340 Click that one.

00:40:02.720 So, on the top of that, you see the body of Jesus,

00:40:05.140 and if you zoom in on the one underneath it,

00:40:07.460 you'll see this hair and bone twill pattern,

00:40:10.100 the interwoven side of it,

00:40:11.840 and you'll also see L-shaped burn marks.

00:40:14.500 It's interesting that they saw fit to even leave that descriptive in the image, right?

00:40:19.580 The pattern that it was sewed into,

00:40:21.460 that's an interesting detail that they tried to preserve.

00:40:24.200 I agree, 100%.

00:40:25.460 And it's crazy because we look at medieval art,

00:40:27.480 and we look at medieval artwork, and it's not the best detail.

00:40:29.900 But they did, in fact, make sure to leave details when it came to the Lord and Savior.

00:40:34.280 I agree.

00:40:34.820 I think that is fascinating.

00:40:35.960 That is fascinating.

00:40:37.140 So, like I said, the original dimensions were measured in cubits,

00:40:39.840 but it is consistent with other burial shrouds of this time.

00:40:43.080 The original shroud is .04 inches thick,

00:40:46.580 and has a thread count of between 70 to 120 micron,

00:40:50.440 and a thread count of that per inch,

00:40:52.600 and each thread is about 200-ish microns thick.

00:40:56.360 Now, again, we're doing ish,

00:40:57.560 and there's a little bit of tolerance here because this was handmade woven material.

00:41:00.520 There was no factory textiles at that time,

00:41:02.980 so you have a little bit of give and take on that.

00:41:05.700 The brown lines on the side that go up and down the entire length of the shroud

00:41:09.320 actually are scorch marks from the fire in 1532,

00:41:13.440 and as we could see from that Hungarian text,

00:41:15.400 we didn't see brown scorch marks that has become so iconic to the shroud today.

00:41:19.060 That drawing, that manuscript, was scripted 400 years before the fire actually took place.

00:41:25.980 So, from the fire on where we start to see the coloration that we know of it today.

00:41:30.860 Let me see here.

00:41:32.240 The four L-shaping marks, those burn marks,

00:41:35.620 no one actually knows where those came from,

00:41:37.740 but it is believed to be from burning incense that may have dropped on it,

00:41:42.760 and they believe that maybe the shroud was folded into fourths.

00:41:45.440 So, somehow these incense were dropped on it and burned all the way through in the exact same pattern.

00:41:50.280 When they unfolded it, we had four L's out of it.

00:41:53.140 Now, again, that's up to debate.

00:41:55.300 Is that something that you think?

00:41:57.160 Because it looks indicative of being folded into fourths

00:42:00.500 and then having some sort of stain, whatever happened to it, and permeate the layers.

00:42:04.580 Yeah, I personally do believe this,

00:42:06.440 and there are some experts that debate this,

00:42:09.140 because that's the thing.

00:42:09.840 There's no record of it, how it got the burn marks.

00:42:12.240 We just know it allegedly was in this place at this day and age.

00:42:15.700 We have a manuscript showing the burn marks, and then boom.

00:42:19.080 Honestly, whoever was the responsible party for those burns

00:42:22.700 probably took that to their grave,

00:42:24.920 because heaven forbid that they be the one to say they damaged the shroud of Jesus.

00:42:29.640 Right, right.

00:42:30.660 So, fair enough.

00:42:32.200 Another famous painting from 1516 shows those holes again,

00:42:35.960 verifying that the burn marks predate the 1532 fire from the Chambery in France.

00:42:42.800 So, there's another painting, 1516, showing those L's, 1.00

00:42:46.700 but not those long burn marks, right?

00:42:48.800 Cut to the fire happens.

00:42:50.680 Oh, I should also mention, also the painting doesn't have the scorch mark lines.

00:42:54.420 There are eight major burns that occurred from molten silver,

00:42:57.860 creating a geometric pattern from the fire of 1532.

00:43:01.020 So, how they had the thing displayed in the Chambery Cathedral in France.

00:43:05.660 Big glass case, silver-lined framework,

00:43:09.120 and when the fire happened, some of that silver,

00:43:11.320 again, we're not talking like modern silversmithing methods.

00:43:14.480 It was the best they could do.

00:43:15.780 Some of it actually melted and fell onto the shroud itself,

00:43:18.920 which led to other burn marks.

00:43:20.980 There was some nuns that actually sewed on these triangle patterns 0.70

00:43:25.340 where those silver molten marks burned.

00:43:27.720 That would be those triangle patterns that we see,

00:43:30.040 four of them, as a matter of fact, on the shroud today.

00:43:32.500 Okay.

00:43:33.000 Real quick, is there any questions?

00:43:34.200 I know I'm blaring through this information.

00:43:36.400 I'm kind of going at a rapid pace.

00:43:38.100 Well, Top, I don't know if you have anything specific, but...

00:43:41.080 No, I'm trying to...

00:43:42.320 I'm, like, streaming through the story here, so...

00:43:44.020 So, let's keep it going,

00:43:45.500 but before we move on from the topic,

00:43:47.820 I would like to address what the...

00:43:49.160 Because everything that you're laying out here is awfully convincing.

00:43:51.940 It seems like they've had this sort of paper trail for a long time.

00:43:54.240 So, then what in...

00:43:55.740 I think it was the 80s, right,

00:43:57.020 where they pretty much dismissed it.

00:43:58.960 And it's like, well, with what information did they dismiss it?

00:44:01.580 Because everything that I'm hearing now is very compelling.

00:44:03.160 But I don't want to derail you from what you're doing now.

00:44:05.860 Let's just keep that on the table.

00:44:07.440 Well, before...

00:44:08.500 Look, before we get into any more of it,

00:44:10.500 I think that, you know, the...

00:44:12.560 You could say that maybe some of the compelling evidence

00:44:15.220 would actually come from the Bible itself.

00:44:18.160 And so I kind of want to give a little bit of reference here.

00:44:20.780 I have some of the Bible quotes right here.

00:44:25.260 And by the way, a lot of my research is done by this dude.

00:44:29.640 Well, he's not a dude.

00:44:30.360 He's a father.

00:44:31.760 Father Andrew Dalton.

00:44:33.460 He's somebody who has studied this back and forth for years.

00:44:37.220 He's gone all over the world and gathered information

00:44:39.380 from everybody who is just absolutely obsessed with the Shroud of Turin.

00:44:43.260 And the way that he speaks about it is just...

00:44:45.960 I love people who are, you know, kind of upbeat and very excited

00:44:49.240 whenever they're relaying information,

00:44:50.800 because there are some people who just talk like this 0.97

00:44:52.480 and you can't even fucking listen to him for more than five minutes 0.99

00:44:55.240 without lulling yourself to sleep. 0.98

00:44:56.400 But this guy is very upbeat.

00:44:58.120 And one of the things that he likes to reference is

00:45:00.340 is John chapter 20, verse four through eight.

00:45:05.080 And so this is in the Bible.

00:45:06.940 It says, both of them were running together,

00:45:08.920 but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first.

00:45:12.900 And stooping to look in,

00:45:14.480 he saw the linen cloths lying there, but he did not go in.

00:45:18.820 So he stooped.

00:45:21.640 The reason why he was stooping is because the tomb is,

00:45:24.980 you know, obviously from like first century Israel.

00:45:28.000 They had a stairwell that led down towards the entryway into this cave.

00:45:31.800 And so if you want to be able to get a good angle

00:45:34.140 to see deep inside from where you're standing,

00:45:37.580 you'd have to stoop and get low

00:45:38.880 because the stairwell creates an obstacle to see inside.

00:45:41.540 So he stoops and doesn't go in, but he does see from a distance.

00:45:45.200 Now we get over to John chapter 20, verses six through eight,

00:45:48.960 which is very interesting.

00:45:50.360 It says, then Simon Peter came following him and went into the tomb.

00:45:54.640 He saw the linen cloths lying there and the face cloth,

00:45:58.580 because there was like a face cloth also,

00:46:00.520 which we'll show the pictures. 0.99

00:46:02.040 It's fucking insane. 0.98

00:46:03.040 But the face cloth, which had been on his head, 0.98

00:46:05.800 not lying with the linen cloths,

00:46:08.520 but folded up in a place by itself.

00:46:10.840 Then the other disciple who came to the tomb first went in also.

00:46:16.160 And it says he saw and he believed.

00:46:19.940 So he saw all of that.

00:46:22.380 And instantly he was an absolute believer

00:46:24.660 if he wasn't already before that Jesus had risen.

00:46:28.680 So the folding of the cloth is actually very significant

00:46:31.640 to the Hebrew culture as well.

00:46:33.480 Let me explain.

00:46:34.520 In that culture to that day and age,

00:46:37.000 and I don't know if this is still something that permeates to today,

00:46:39.160 but during that day and age,

00:46:41.040 if you were a guest at a person's house and you were eating,

00:46:44.580 and if you got up from the table,

00:46:46.120 use the bathroom, go get something, whatever,

00:46:47.800 you would leave your napkin folded on your plate.

00:46:50.820 That would mean that you're not done.

00:46:52.460 You're coming back.

00:46:53.840 Okay.

00:46:54.360 If you were done with your meal,

00:46:55.760 you would just wipe your mouth, whatever,

00:46:57.060 leave the napkin, any old type of way, they'd pick it up.

00:46:59.780 Jesus folded the cloth, meaning he was coming back.

00:47:05.160 Man, that is cool because it sounds like to a degree,

00:47:08.340 it's like this is just a really organized dude.

00:47:11.400 And it's like, no, this is not a, he's coming back.

00:47:13.900 I love that.

00:47:14.360 That's gangster.

00:47:14.980 I love that there used to be like whenever people,

00:47:16.940 you think of like what's a gangster move to pull off today,

00:47:19.120 and it's so sloppy in comparison.

00:47:21.060 The decorum that they had back in the day,

00:47:23.060 folding a napkin and everyone's looking at it like, 0.99

00:47:25.240 oh shit, he's coming back. 0.99

00:47:26.400 I love that. 1.00

00:47:27.300 After they've killed you, you fold the napkin,

00:47:29.100 you leave it on the table and you say like, I want more.

00:47:31.580 Put a little chocolate on your pillow.

00:47:33.440 And keep in mind, the tomb itself,

00:47:35.300 now again, depends on which gospel you read

00:47:37.340 because the gospels are written to different individual groups.

00:47:40.860 There's conjecture to say that that's why there's fallacies in the Bible.

00:47:44.320 This story doesn't line up with this story.

00:47:46.120 They omit certain details like, no, that's not exactly the case.

00:47:49.340 One was written to the Gentiles.

00:47:51.200 One was written to the Jews.

00:47:52.580 One was written to the Romans.

00:47:53.680 There's a reason for these things.

00:47:55.040 There's significance that was put on certain factors other than,

00:47:58.040 or rather than others that doesn't negate those facts.

00:48:01.180 There's reasons for all of that.

00:48:03.160 But depending on the source that you read,

00:48:05.580 keep in mind, the tomb was sealed.

00:48:07.860 The Romans were worried that this new Messiah figure, 0.96

00:48:10.960 this new cult that he was following or was following him,

00:48:13.800 was going to become a problem.

00:48:15.260 They actually had Roman sentries posted as guards on this tomb.

00:48:19.840 They sealed it with rope and with wax.

00:48:21.920 They wanted to make sure that they wouldn't steal this body

00:48:24.100 to claim some sort of crazy resurrection story.

00:48:27.420 This tomb didn't have any trap doors.

00:48:29.180 This was a cave.

00:48:29.920 The cave was owned by Jesus' uncle, Joseph of Arimathea.

00:48:33.800 There's a whole backstory to that,

00:48:35.520 which also could be why he was buried in such a,

00:48:38.260 like I said, cheap materials but well-made cloth.

00:48:41.060 Okay, that was an expensive cloth.

00:48:42.700 The clothes that he actually was buried or was murdered in

00:48:45.720 was a double linen cloak.

00:48:47.420 As a matter of fact, when it was ripped from him,

00:48:48.800 the Roman guards started gambling for who would get it

00:48:51.500 because it was such a high-quality garment.

00:48:53.500 To say that he had a rich uncle

00:48:54.900 who also footed the bill for the death tomb,

00:48:57.380 that would make sense as well.

00:48:58.320 So it was sealed under Roman guard.

00:49:01.460 No way this guy got out without anybody seeing.

00:49:04.360 When the women came, they asked the guards to roll back the tomb.

00:49:08.020 And it was.

00:49:08.900 They go in and see this situation.

00:49:11.440 The cloth is folded.

00:49:12.500 He is gone.

00:49:13.980 There's no explanation.

00:49:14.880 Dude, it's absolutely nuts.

00:49:19.280 But what's really great is that there's a lot of information

00:49:21.960 that you can actually learn about how they used to do things back in the day

00:49:27.200 by strictly just observing some of the markings that are on this shroud.

00:49:31.620 So, for example, a lot of people had always thought that Jesus,

00:49:35.340 you know, he had nails driven through his hands.

00:49:37.640 That's, you know, typically the picture that you'd see.

00:49:39.660 It would be driven through his hands.

00:49:40.840 However, the shroud itself shows that the nails were actually driven through the wrists.

00:49:47.700 The reason behind that is because they found out earlier when nailing people to a cross 0.98

00:49:51.660 that the nail would slide up the hand

00:49:54.000 because there is no bone there to block the nail from sliding up.

00:49:57.840 Therefore, they put it through the wrist

00:49:59.680 and the bottom bone of the hand would stop the nail from sliding up, 0.67

00:50:03.640 which makes a lot more sense if you're trying to keep somebody there for days.

00:50:07.340 Yep.

00:50:07.680 And they've also...

00:50:08.520 Militarian, yeah.

00:50:09.640 Yeah, they've done experiments as well.

00:50:11.000 They would actually put a pedestal just below their feet,

00:50:14.580 not high enough to where they could stand up and take their weight off

00:50:17.100 and get a full breath of air,

00:50:18.840 but just low enough to where they could try to extend the punishment further.

00:50:23.020 And that's another thing that they have done studies on to say

00:50:25.460 why it lasted so long with Jesus.

00:50:27.180 They believe he did that.

00:50:28.620 Also worth mentioning, the whole stab wound in the ribs,

00:50:31.720 why they did that and how what came out of it makes sense,

00:50:35.040 water and blood, and that's the stain that's shown on the shroud.

00:50:39.080 But again, all right, all right, let's get back to it.

00:50:40.680 All right.

00:50:41.320 So talking about the water stains,

00:50:43.020 there are numerous water stains and blood stains on the shroud.

00:50:46.380 Some of the water stains are from putting out the fire

00:50:49.920 that happened in the cathedral.

00:50:51.920 Others are actually from the body housed within the shroud at one point,

00:50:55.500 most notably around the head and torso.

00:50:57.700 Now, the head, that makes sense, sweat, water, blood, all these things.

00:51:01.820 But the torso in particular, at one particular stab wound to the ribs.

00:51:06.760 Now, again, it's about how many of these victims could have been

00:51:10.880 buried in this manner with these markings, with all of these things,

00:51:15.480 because there's the school of thought to say,

00:51:16.940 okay, maybe the shroud is real to the day and age,

00:51:19.940 but that doesn't mean it was Jesus's.

00:51:21.780 It's like, okay, find me another crucifixion victim that fits that bill, homie. 1.00

00:51:25.600 You know, there's not many.

00:51:27.100 Right, right, right.

00:51:28.040 You could make an argument that it seems to be that they were,

00:51:30.520 you know, based off of what you're describing,

00:51:32.180 fine-tuning their torturing techniques.

00:51:33.920 Maybe this is something that they like to do,

00:51:35.880 but it seems a lot easier to just say, yeah, he was a real guy.

00:51:39.520 Yeah.

00:51:39.920 Well, and also to even add on top of that,

00:51:42.400 like, as I was saying, this father, Andrew Dalton, 0.99

00:51:44.900 I mean, he gets into the specific details behind the shit. 1.00

00:51:48.300 It is nuts. 0.98

00:51:49.260 But what he says is, I'm sorry.

00:51:51.540 Can I ask you guys a question to maybe, like,

00:51:53.440 detour from the Shroud of Turin really quick,

00:51:56.880 the Spear of Destiny.

00:51:58.540 I know that, like, so,

00:52:01.620 do you understand any of the supernatural properties

00:52:04.420 that this thing possibly would have?

00:52:06.580 Because I know Hitler was looking for it, 1.00

00:52:08.520 and if it pierced Jesus, it's his last piercing that killed him,

00:52:12.880 there's something to this.

00:52:14.040 So do you guys know anything about that?

00:52:15.660 Yes, but also it's not what killed Jesus.

00:52:17.900 Because if you look at the story, he was dead.

00:52:20.440 He said it was finished, and the earthquake happened.

00:52:23.000 The Romans stabbed him with the spear later to ensure that he was dead.

00:52:26.860 Right, right, right, right, right.

00:52:27.780 There's already stories about what happened with it.

00:52:30.680 Was it a real thing?

00:52:31.680 The Roman guard that did it, I forget his name,

00:52:33.540 but apparently he, like, got saved in the process,

00:52:35.740 and this became an artifact.

00:52:37.320 It gets really, really mixed up in legend and lore,

00:52:40.120 very similar to the Holy Grail, right?

00:52:41.960 The cup that Jesus drank from at the Last Supper.

00:52:43.940 Keep in mind, it was a bread and wine meal,

00:52:47.020 and it was the hand of a carpenter that was serving.

00:52:51.020 Yes, it was this golden, pimped-out chalice.

00:52:53.180 Like, are you sure it wasn't like clay or wood?

00:52:57.560 That's a lot of things where they get mixed up in the lore

00:53:00.220 and the legend of it, and it honestly, who can say?

00:53:04.420 And so, like, you know, kind of going back to the whole question,

00:53:08.400 like, how do people, all right,

00:53:09.900 so there were plenty of people that were crucified back in the day.

00:53:12.260 How can we be so sure that this had to have been Jesus?

00:53:16.460 Well, what's interesting is,

00:53:19.260 is that there is only one documented case

00:53:21.740 of someone dying on a cross with a crown of thorns,

00:53:24.560 and the shroud indicates that Jesus was pierced on the forehead

00:53:27.640 and all the way around his head.

00:53:29.680 And you can see the blood marks from the plucking of his beard,

00:53:33.440 the overabundances, the overabundance of lashes to his body,

00:53:37.780 only, by the way,

00:53:39.360 because we said that we were going to go back to that,

00:53:41.160 those lashings.

00:53:42.840 So it said that whenever you would be torturing somebody

00:53:45.820 that was up on the cross,

00:53:46.860 you wouldn't give them more than 40 lashes.

00:53:49.340 Anything more, anything 40 lashes or more

00:53:52.160 were only fit for an animal.

00:53:54.540 So you would only give a human lashings of 39.

00:53:58.440 Anything more than that,

00:53:59.780 it would have to be an animal.

00:54:01.160 He got, like, 400 lashes,

00:54:03.900 and that was just the level of disrespect.

00:54:06.520 So it just goes to show that not only would that,

00:54:10.040 you would only give that kind of treatment to an animal,

00:54:12.460 but it suggests that Jesus was especially special for this one,

00:54:16.600 and that also shows up in the shroud.

00:54:18.820 And you've got to keep in mind the way the Romans would torture people. 0.91

00:54:21.120 Take away the story of Jesus for two seconds.

00:54:23.080 Roman corporal punishment. 0.60

00:54:25.060 Those lashings was not just the thing they did for Jesus.

00:54:28.000 What they would do, as a matter of fact,

00:54:29.640 have you ever seen The Passion of the Christ?

00:54:31.640 Yes.

00:54:32.220 Okay, so you remember the stake that they tied him to

00:54:34.140 when they would whip him.

00:54:35.340 What the Romans typically would do 1.00

00:54:37.040 if it wasn't an execution but a beating

00:54:38.840 and a lesson learned or something along those lines,

00:54:41.180 they would chain their hands to their feet

00:54:43.460 and force them to heal in that configuration

00:54:45.980 so that they would never be able to stand completely upright again.

00:54:49.200 All of their muscles and skin would have to heal in that way

00:54:51.620 so that they would walk the rest of their life

00:54:53.560 and everyone would know what type of criminal they were.

00:54:56.080 Okay?

00:54:56.620 Now, the whole 39, oh, wait, not 40,

00:54:59.680 they would just swap tools.

00:55:00.820 They just went from the sticks to the cat of nine tails

00:55:03.840 to the this,

00:55:04.580 and they would just swap up to keep it quote-unquote legal.

00:55:07.540 So Jesus took over 400 lashes

00:55:09.720 and to the point about how many crucifixion victims

00:55:12.080 could this have been in this death shroud.

00:55:14.580 Here's the deal.

00:55:15.880 There is only one other case of a crucifixion victim

00:55:19.920 getting proper ceremonial Hebrew burial.

00:55:23.380 Okay?

00:55:23.780 Here's the reason.

00:55:25.000 Typically, if you were getting crucified,

00:55:27.080 you did something so bad

00:55:28.540 that even Hebrew law acknowledged you to be a criminal

00:55:31.120 and they weren't going to give you

00:55:32.080 some sort of honorary burial.

00:55:33.980 Okay?

00:55:34.200 Like, that's not a thing.

00:55:36.020 So for the other guy that did it,

00:55:38.000 I forget the entire story,

00:55:39.220 but he was wrongfully accused of something.

00:55:40.840 It was a theft of some type

00:55:42.040 and the Romans crucified him,

00:55:43.900 but his tribesmen,

00:55:45.500 tribe of Judah,

00:55:46.300 tribesmen,

00:55:46.780 gave him a proper burial.

00:55:48.200 The only other example

00:55:49.840 is whoever was buried in the Shroud of Torrin.

00:55:52.240 And yet again,

00:55:52.880 there's no other record of somebody

00:55:54.320 who got that type of beating,

00:55:56.300 that crown of thorns,

00:55:57.720 the beard plucked.

00:55:58.980 Then again,

00:55:59.980 to the forgery side of things.

00:56:01.580 All right.

00:56:02.620 This one's going to mess y'all up

00:56:03.880 and we're going to talk about

00:56:04.800 the 1988 tests

00:56:07.640 that were done on the Shroud.

00:56:08.960 All right, here we go.

00:56:10.520 Through spectroscopal skinopi,

00:56:13.300 dirt was found on the feet,

00:56:15.180 cheek, and arm,

00:56:16.440 all indicating that the soil in question

00:56:18.360 comes from the roads of Jerusalem

00:56:20.200 from the first century A.D.

00:56:21.880 Now this was contested

00:56:23.580 because, oh,

00:56:24.040 how can you even tell that?

00:56:25.480 Okay, here's the deal.

00:56:26.620 Later tests from X-ray microflorescence

00:56:29.480 and scanner electron microscopy

00:56:31.620 confirmed these results.

00:56:33.520 The way they did this

00:56:34.420 is that the dirt was made

00:56:35.520 of limestone and calcite.

00:56:37.520 Now the limestone and calcite

00:56:39.100 have this weird ability

00:56:40.380 to leave a signature.

00:56:42.060 Very similar to,

00:56:43.020 have y'all ever seen a flint knapping?

00:56:44.880 You know, like back in the day,

00:56:46.020 cavemen would flint knap an arrowhead

00:56:47.800 or they would flint knap a knife

00:56:49.340 or something.

00:56:50.300 We can take that piece of chert,

00:56:52.200 which is what that flint knapping thing is called,

00:56:54.460 and we can tell what mountain range

00:56:56.380 that came from

00:56:57.120 because certain stones leave a signature,

00:56:59.640 so to speak.

00:57:00.140 They're made out of the same type of materials.

00:57:02.640 Matter of fact,

00:57:03.040 there was a stone knife

00:57:04.840 that was found in North Carolina

00:57:06.140 who, come to find out,

00:57:07.700 came from a mountain in France

00:57:08.960 30,000 years ago,

00:57:10.200 and they're still trying to figure that one out.

00:57:12.020 But when it comes to the dirt in question

00:57:13.960 on the Shroud of Torrin,

00:57:15.420 through all of the electron microscopes,

00:57:17.740 through all of the x-ray, bio-illuminate,

00:57:19.800 all of the stuff,

00:57:20.860 they can confirm beyond any shadow of a doubt

00:57:23.160 that the soil question in sample,

00:57:25.780 soil sample in question,

00:57:27.400 got that backwards,

00:57:28.320 came absolutely without any shadow of any doubt

00:57:31.200 from the streets of Jerusalem

00:57:32.940 in the first century A.D.

00:57:34.560 And to really tie that in even more

00:57:37.120 to get a little bit more detailed,

00:57:39.080 it's that it was determined

00:57:40.580 that it was calcium carbonate

00:57:42.760 with remnants of strontium

00:57:45.520 and its crystalline structure.

00:57:47.960 Whenever it looked under a microscope,

00:57:50.600 it also had travertine aragonite,

00:57:54.540 which according to geologists,

00:57:56.200 they say that it matches the soil

00:57:58.240 of the grottos in Jerusalem

00:58:00.140 like a fingerprint.

00:58:01.640 Like that's how specific it is

00:58:04.300 and therefore there's no way

00:58:06.200 that it could have been fabricated in France

00:58:07.920 like some people may suggest.

00:58:09.620 Now, before we get into the image of the body

00:58:12.020 on the Shroud,

00:58:12.860 because that's where my next notes go,

00:58:14.140 is there any questions about things thus far?

00:58:16.820 I mean, where I was going to go next

00:58:19.120 was going to be what caused the image.

00:58:21.380 That's actually what I have written down here.

00:58:22.720 So this is kind of perfect

00:58:23.880 because it's like, you know,

00:58:25.460 I can imagine there being

00:58:27.820 some sort of an image left on a body,

00:58:30.520 but as pronounced as it is,

00:58:33.080 it's definitely unique.

00:58:36.360 And I do think very often about it.

00:58:38.020 How would that sort of an imprint be left?

00:58:40.400 Well, there is so much interesting information

00:58:43.260 backing that as well.

00:58:45.040 So there have been scientists

00:58:46.500 that have been trying to figure out

00:58:47.800 how to even recreate

00:58:49.280 this whole Shroud of Turin, right?

00:58:51.020 Like they're trying to just,

00:58:52.500 you know, debunk the whole idea.

00:58:54.440 There's no way this is possible.

00:58:56.240 This can be recreated.

00:58:57.520 Well, some people suggest that it's a painting

00:59:00.360 or a needling or a scorch

00:59:02.280 or some kind of watercolor.

00:59:03.860 But what they've discovered is,

00:59:05.140 is that the depth of penetration

00:59:07.020 of coloration on the Shroud itself

00:59:09.580 is 200 to 500 nanometers,

00:59:13.540 which to put it in spectrum

00:59:14.980 is one fifth of one thousandth of a millimeter.

00:59:20.360 That's the depth of coloration

00:59:21.800 on the Shroud itself.

00:59:23.040 And if you take a single human hair 0.65

00:59:25.280 and divide that width of the hair by one twentieth,

00:59:30.220 you have the depth of the coloration of the Shroud.

00:59:33.040 And on top of that,

00:59:34.480 if you were to take a razor

00:59:35.740 and just graze the Shroud ever so lightly,

00:59:39.000 you would erase the picture of the Shroud forever.

00:59:42.580 So here's the deal.

00:59:43.320 What the hell is it then?

00:59:44.180 You don't remember when I said

00:59:45.220 that the threads of the Shroud

00:59:46.560 were 200 microns thick?

00:59:48.620 Yeah.

00:59:49.240 The image only permeates two microns.

00:59:51.940 Wow.

00:59:53.220 Of red where it is.

00:59:55.440 But that's,

00:59:56.080 so here's the deal.

00:59:57.260 It is not made with dyes or paints or pigments.

00:59:59.900 All scans have shown no indication or signs of this.

01:00:02.700 Not only that,

01:00:03.240 when you shine light directly on the Shroud,

01:00:05.740 the image disappears.

01:00:07.060 It is only with indirect light

01:00:08.740 that you can even see it in the first place.

01:00:10.880 Actually, if y'all could,

01:00:11.780 pull up a picture of the Shroud of Thorin

01:00:13.180 and it in the negative.

01:00:14.260 There's a lot of famous pictures of them

01:00:15.440 next to each other.

01:00:16.480 And I want to kind of go over

01:00:17.600 all of the different discolorations

01:00:19.180 discolorations we're looking at

01:00:20.460 because a lot of it has been changed.

01:00:22.180 There's been some things sewn on over the years.

01:00:24.180 There's been some burn marks.

01:00:25.840 There's some blood stains.

01:00:27.240 We're going to go all that year.

01:00:28.680 Some people stole part of it, right?

01:00:30.460 Well, not stole it.

01:00:32.140 Certain royal families cut off strips of it

01:00:34.180 and gave it as gifts.

01:00:35.440 Well, we're going to get to that in a minute.

01:00:36.820 So I want to talk about the image

01:00:37.940 on the Shroud first,

01:00:38.920 and then we're going to go over the history

01:00:40.160 of how it got to where it is today

01:00:41.760 from the tomb of Jesus to Turin, Italy.

01:00:44.400 All right, so that is it in the negative.

01:00:47.820 So if you look at it in the positive, negative,

01:00:49.940 here you go.

01:00:50.680 The image that is shown

01:00:51.800 is from a combination of discoloration

01:00:53.420 of the fibers and blood stains,

01:00:55.280 watermarks, and scorch marks.

01:00:57.160 However, the image of the man

01:00:58.400 only penetrates, like I said,

01:00:59.720 the first two microns of each fiber.

01:01:01.900 All scans and tests that have shown

01:01:03.740 no signs of any kind of paint

01:01:05.820 or any other type of pigmentation.

01:01:07.760 In fact, indirect light, like I said,

01:01:09.320 is the only way that you can see the image.

01:01:11.940 The position of the body is set

01:01:13.320 in whatever would have been

01:01:14.260 like a traditional burial position.

01:01:16.920 Everybody wants to bring up rigor mortis.

01:01:19.420 I've heard so many people claim

01:01:20.980 that this could not be Jesus

01:01:23.060 because he died in a crucifixion pose.

01:01:25.580 His arms would be stuck like this forever, right?

01:01:27.580 Okay, pause.

01:01:28.920 To any of y'all's listeners,

01:01:30.600 how do you think crash victims

01:01:32.300 that die in these crazy contorted positions

01:01:34.380 get open casket funerals? 0.85

01:01:36.740 Rigor mortis is a temporary status of a corpse.

01:01:40.140 It only goes on for a couple of hours.

01:01:41.880 Yeah, the body gets stiffer,

01:01:43.320 but you can still manipulate it.

01:01:44.760 That's what morticians do. 1.00

01:01:46.460 Okay, so the rigor mortis of it and him,

01:01:49.040 why aren't his arms raised?

01:01:50.380 That's a silly argument to make, right?

01:01:53.360 We don't really see the details of the image

01:01:55.680 until looked at in the negative.

01:01:57.260 And this was first done in 1898.

01:02:00.420 Yeah, 1898 in that photograph.

01:02:03.640 The blood is the positive in that image.

01:02:05.960 When we look at it in the negative

01:02:06.780 and we see these random white things

01:02:08.200 that are just protruding

01:02:09.120 and bright in the middle of it,

01:02:10.640 that would be the blood stains.

01:02:12.780 Also worth mentioning,

01:02:13.900 when you shine,

01:02:15.060 or I said the image just appears,

01:02:16.460 the blood stains at the wrist and feet

01:02:18.020 clearly show that this is a victim of crucifixion

01:02:20.260 and also the ribs and head,

01:02:22.260 like we said,

01:02:22.660 is a mixture of blood and water.

01:02:24.200 The blood has been analyzed to be type AB.

01:02:27.740 Now, that doesn't necessarily mean

01:02:29.700 that Jesus Christ was AB blood type 0.99

01:02:31.760 because after blood is left to oxidize

01:02:34.260 and be slowly but surely degenerated,

01:02:36.360 unless it is a O type blood,

01:02:38.380 pretty much all blood degenerates into AB.

01:02:41.000 So is it possible Jesus was AB? 0.91

01:02:43.120 Yes, but not a guarantee.

01:02:45.360 Like I said,

01:02:46.320 other crucifixion victims have been brought up,

01:02:49.400 but none of them have been given

01:02:50.360 a traditional burial like this

01:02:52.560 and not showing all of those scourge marks.

01:02:54.940 You could see it in the negative.

01:02:55.980 This dude had 400 lashes.

01:02:58.060 You could also see from the offset angle of them

01:03:00.500 that the two people that were beating him,

01:03:02.720 one of them was probably a little taller than the other.

01:03:05.380 You could tell that by the direction

01:03:06.920 and the force of the slashes.

01:03:09.540 Dude, all right.

01:03:10.700 So, and on top of that,

01:03:12.360 so yeah, they discovered the whole,

01:03:14.900 the negative x-ray,

01:03:16.340 what was it, 1898 or something like that.

01:03:18.420 But there was a scientist in the 1930s

01:03:21.720 that argued that the only way

01:03:23.840 the image could have formed on the cloth

01:03:25.860 is through exposure to radiation.

01:03:28.340 It was this Russian scientist,

01:03:29.780 his name is Alexander Belyakov.

01:03:32.600 He suggested that the image could have formed

01:03:34.800 through intense but short-lasting exposure to light.

01:03:38.400 Others have argued that the x-ray or x-radiation

01:03:41.300 or ultraviolet rays could account

01:03:43.540 for the image's creation.

01:03:45.800 Whatever the source of the radiation might have been,

01:03:48.460 the researchers unanimously agreed

01:03:50.820 that the radiant source was vertical,

01:03:53.660 meaning that the light had to have come

01:03:55.500 from above the cloth.

01:03:57.400 And then there was this Italian researcher,

01:03:59.200 pretty cool,

01:04:00.100 his name is Paolo de Lazaro.

01:04:03.160 He stated that the radiation,

01:04:05.020 which he believes to have been ultraviolet,

01:04:07.580 it exceeds the maximum power released

01:04:10.100 by all ultraviolet sources of light

01:04:12.380 available even today.

01:04:13.740 He also says that it would require pulses

01:04:16.320 having durations shorter than 1 40 billionth of a second

01:04:20.900 and that the intensities would have been

01:04:25.880 on the order of several billion watts

01:04:29.200 during this 1 40 billionth of a second.

01:04:32.700 So it's crazy because it says

01:04:35.100 that there is no modern technology available

01:04:37.220 that can produce an image like that

01:04:38.780 of the Shroud of Turin.

01:04:40.000 And so you would suggest maybe

01:04:42.440 to the Christians across the world

01:04:44.200 who have studied these findings,

01:04:45.800 the vertical source of radiation

01:04:47.740 was inarguably divine light

01:04:50.520 caused by Jesus's ascension to heaven.

01:04:53.400 So the cloth itself didn't have something put on it.

01:04:56.580 Okay.

01:04:57.020 And they didn't.

01:04:57.540 It's not burn marks.

01:04:58.500 It's not scorch marks that's left from the body,

01:05:00.740 but they're basically saying

01:05:02.240 a 3 trillion watt ultraviolet lightning bolt

01:05:05.420 just went in the blink of an eye

01:05:07.100 and he's gone.

01:05:07.860 And this is the image that's left.

01:05:09.380 And again, when you look at the cloth,

01:05:10.920 it didn't change the color.

01:05:12.260 It changed the status of the material.

01:05:15.320 Have you guys,

01:05:15.780 have you guys ever thought about that,

01:05:17.200 that kind of a phenomenon, right?

01:05:18.960 Where you have a light shining down,

01:05:21.120 bringing something up.

01:05:22.100 Sounds a lot like UFOs

01:05:24.220 that the abduction phenomenon,

01:05:25.620 they'll pick up the cow, right?

01:05:26.660 With this light.

01:05:27.640 But it sounds way better than that technology.

01:05:30.900 We get into Nephilim Death Squad 0.93

01:05:32.500 that like possibly the aliens are fallen angels

01:05:36.080 or Nephilim types

01:05:37.640 and they're recreating the technology that they have.

01:05:40.640 It might be outdated technology at this point.

01:05:42.900 Well, what I was thinking about was,

01:05:46.260 and I'm retarded,

01:05:47.400 so this might not even be true.

01:05:48.940 But there's this idea that

01:05:51.080 when a sperm penetrates an egg, 0.67

01:05:54.020 there is an inexplicable flash of light 0.99

01:05:56.160 that nobody has any fucking reason for. 0.89

01:05:59.820 Nobody can identify why this happens. 0.98

01:06:01.420 Nobody identifies where it comes from.

01:06:02.700 I was just telling,

01:06:03.680 we were talking yesterday about like the IVF thing

01:06:05.800 and Trump approving IVF for everybody.

01:06:08.660 And I was studying it and I was watching,

01:06:11.240 it's crazy.

01:06:12.120 You can watch the sperm fly right into the egg

01:06:14.080 time after time.

01:06:14.980 And when it implants,

01:06:15.840 there is like a flicker.

01:06:17.640 There's a flash of light.

01:06:18.220 Now that's on a microscopic level, right?

01:06:20.480 Like that's a microscopic level.

01:06:22.160 What happens when life re-enters the body

01:06:24.000 of a full grown male?

01:06:25.320 Yeah.

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01:07:55.560 Well, that's where my mind is going.

01:07:58.240 I'm like, what happens

01:07:59.160 when you introduce the miracle of life,

01:08:01.900 a soul enters a body,

01:08:03.340 but it is a body of a 30-year-old man?

01:08:07.300 Well, if you really look into that

01:08:09.200 even a little bit more

01:08:10.100 as far as the tiny little flash of light

01:08:13.440 whenever that sperm meets the egg,

01:08:15.640 other people have also done other studies

01:08:18.300 trying to recreate that

01:08:20.240 without the sperm and the egg. 0.99

01:08:21.920 And this is where it gets fucking wild, dude, 0.98

01:08:24.400 is that whenever you have 0.93

01:08:26.020 like a little droplet of water

01:08:27.880 or a little droplet of some kind of liquid,

01:08:31.340 that if you penetrate sound

01:08:33.740 into that little droplet of water,

01:08:36.700 a flash of light occurs.

01:08:38.800 So you could say that this was,

01:08:42.840 I mean, maybe the soul,

01:08:44.580 the consciousness or whatever

01:08:45.860 is almost spoken into existence.

01:08:49.200 The word made flesh?

01:08:50.800 Exactly.

01:08:51.880 Wow.

01:08:52.260 You know, I'm a big fan of frequency.

01:08:53.780 I play guitar,

01:08:54.800 a big, big musician guy.

01:08:56.340 And that's kind of what got me into conspiracy.

01:08:58.520 When I started to,

01:08:59.900 I took a class about a,

01:09:02.800 geez, what's it called?

01:09:03.680 Like perfect pitch.

01:09:04.620 And the guy was teaching you relative pitch.

01:09:06.900 So he's like,

01:09:07.420 if you can internalize the C note,

01:09:08.960 then you can kind of predict

01:09:09.960 everything that comes before and after.

01:09:11.800 But I noticed that his voice

01:09:13.200 was very like a,

01:09:14.920 it was almost hypnotizing.

01:09:16.260 He was a fully aware of the pitch

01:09:18.480 that was coming out of his mind.

01:09:19.700 And that,

01:09:20.060 that,

01:09:20.360 that served as like a form of mind control.

01:09:22.260 So from there,

01:09:22.960 I'm like,

01:09:23.240 I'm obsessed with frequency.

01:09:24.480 What can I learn about it?

01:09:26.080 What is it doing?

01:09:27.080 Why does it manipulate people?

01:09:28.220 And then you get into the Tesla rabbit hole

01:09:29.920 where he's like,

01:09:30.500 if you want to understand

01:09:31.600 the secrets of the universe,

01:09:32.880 you have to understand vibration,

01:09:34.740 frequency,

01:09:35.580 and something else.

01:09:37.720 Energy.

01:09:37.840 There were three important things.

01:09:38.820 Energy, frequency, vibration.

01:09:40.620 I was going to say resonance,

01:09:41.740 but all right,

01:09:42.120 that too.

01:09:42.840 I mean,

01:09:43.260 that's just,

01:09:43.820 I think there's something there,

01:09:45.240 right?

01:09:45.440 You're talking,

01:09:45.760 because I've heard the same thing

01:09:46.740 about a bubble underwater.

01:09:48.700 I think of a bubble pops.

01:09:50.260 There's like a inexplicable flash of light

01:09:52.100 surrounding that too.

01:09:53.760 And there's just something,

01:09:54.740 it seems to be,

01:09:55.860 you know,

01:09:56.700 I think that's why it's so important.

01:09:59.320 There's something hidden in that,

01:10:00.820 that we don't understand.

01:10:01.900 You know,

01:10:02.080 maybe you need like an alchemist

01:10:03.220 to understand it,

01:10:03.960 but the word made flesh,

01:10:05.580 like there's something about that.

01:10:07.660 If everything is,

01:10:09.380 is energy,

01:10:11.260 frequency,

01:10:11.600 and vibration,

01:10:12.300 and words are sound,

01:10:15.100 and sound is energy and vibration,

01:10:17.440 then that is,

01:10:19.160 there's something,

01:10:20.240 there's a bridge there to light.

01:10:21.680 You know what I mean?

01:10:22.400 There's a bridge.

01:10:23.080 That's why Jonathan reads,

01:10:24.660 you read that out actively

01:10:26.060 before you perform hypnosis on someone.

01:10:29.560 Right.

01:10:29.860 It's like the whole induction method.

01:10:32.160 Is there,

01:10:32.620 is there a way,

01:10:33.340 I hate to go back to it,

01:10:34.360 but is there a way that you are

01:10:35.540 cadencing words,

01:10:36.420 or are you like hitting certain inflections?

01:10:39.040 You're very aware of that at least.

01:10:40.800 Of course.

01:10:41.280 Yeah.

01:10:41.520 You have to,

01:10:42.500 it's,

01:10:43.040 it's kind of like how women like to say, 1.00

01:10:45.440 it's not what you said,

01:10:46.400 it's how you say it.

01:10:47.600 Right.

01:10:48.100 Like that whole kind of thing.

01:10:49.640 And that's actually really true.

01:10:51.220 And then you also apply,

01:10:52.540 um,

01:10:53.180 NLP,

01:10:53.600 which is known as neuro-linguistic programming.

01:10:56.000 So now instead of saying what you want somebody to see,

01:11:00.360 you're suggesting it.

01:11:01.840 And that suggestion allows them,

01:11:04.200 because everybody is this way.

01:11:06.040 We're all a little bit rebellious in our own mind.

01:11:08.880 If somebody tells you to do something,

01:11:10.580 you're like, 1.00

01:11:10.900 fuck you, 1.00

01:11:11.360 you go do it. 1.00

01:11:12.040 Right.

01:11:12.560 But if somebody suggests that like,

01:11:14.760 oh,

01:11:14.940 this could be the outcome.

01:11:16.160 If you did this,

01:11:17.060 you don't have to do it.

01:11:17.800 It's up to you kind of deal.

01:11:19.200 You might be a little bit more open to it.

01:11:20.820 So that's why the whole suggestibility really works whenever you're in a

01:11:25.080 hypnotic state.

01:11:26.320 And so like,

01:11:27.080 think about it like this.

01:11:27.840 I always like to,

01:11:28.500 uh,

01:11:28.840 kind of preface it like this.

01:11:30.960 So there are,

01:11:32.300 uh,

01:11:32.780 four stages of awakeness,

01:11:35.140 right?

01:11:35.360 So,

01:11:35.800 or just four stages of consciousness in general.

01:11:38.540 So you have,

01:11:39.200 um,

01:11:39.640 beta,

01:11:40.160 which is like conversation right now.

01:11:41.940 You're fully aware there.

01:11:43.280 You're,

01:11:43.680 you know where you're at.

01:11:44.520 We're in beta.

01:11:45.120 Like that's the brainwave state that we're currently in right now.

01:11:48.000 Whenever you turn on the TV or maybe even the people that are listening to this podcast

01:11:51.480 right now,

01:11:52.140 you might fall into what is known as the alpha brain,

01:11:55.200 uh,

01:11:55.560 brainwave state,

01:11:56.500 which is a light trance.

01:11:58.000 And this is why so many people,

01:11:59.560 they watch CNN,

01:12:00.540 they watch Fox news.

01:12:01.580 They're falling into a literal light trance.

01:12:04.720 And this was proven by the way,

01:12:06.280 by some scientists,

01:12:07.760 I don't know,

01:12:08.120 back in the sixties or fifties or something like that,

01:12:10.580 where they would hook up a bunch of like brain nodes onto your head. 0.95

01:12:14.220 And it's monitoring all,

01:12:16.000 all your brainwaves.

01:12:17.040 Right.

01:12:17.360 And they did it to like,

01:12:18.440 uh,

01:12:18.700 like 50 to a hundred,

01:12:20.140 uh,

01:12:20.780 people just to try and test this theory out.

01:12:23.260 And what they did was they made all of those people sit down on a couch and watch a TV.

01:12:28.280 There wasn't a single person that had these brainwaves.

01:12:31.580 Nodes hooked up to their head that could watch that TV for more than 60 seconds without falling

01:12:38.960 into the alpha state of mind or a light trance.

01:12:41.540 So you're literally being hypnotized at times when you don't even know you're being hypnotized.

01:12:46.940 And so,

01:12:47.820 so that's the alpha and that's just a light trance.

01:12:50.460 It's not like you're full on MK ultra or anything like that,

01:12:52.880 but you're suggestible at that point.

01:12:54.620 You have a child.

01:12:56.900 Have you ever had a kid?

01:12:58.280 You're,

01:12:58.520 they're watching Paul patrol or something like that.

01:13:00.500 They leave the room. 1.00

01:13:01.820 And then you realize your ass is watching Paul patrol. 1.00

01:13:04.480 They you're the only one in the room. 1.00

01:13:06.120 Why are you doing that?

01:13:07.180 Because you,

01:13:08.660 without knowing it fell into a light trance as human minds are one to do whenever the television's on.

01:13:13.980 I'm very aware of that.

01:13:15.300 Like my,

01:13:15.740 I have two kids.

01:13:16.740 So it's, 1.00

01:13:17.300 they're watching the shit. 1.00

01:13:18.620 And sometimes like I'm watching from the outside perspective, 1.00

01:13:21.260 because I'm trying not to fall into that brainwave pattern,

01:13:23.540 but I'm like,

01:13:24.500 what are they doing?

01:13:25.520 I'm also a graphic designer.

01:13:26.520 So I'm paying attention.

01:13:27.240 What are they doing?

01:13:27.980 Oh,

01:13:28.160 there's a scene change every three seconds,

01:13:30.080 especially with the 3d stuff,

01:13:31.460 the way that it's like curved and lighted and rendered.

01:13:33.600 I'm like,

01:13:34.060 there's some trickery going on here that children can't look past.

01:13:37.260 I,

01:13:37.540 it's hard for me and I work in the field,

01:13:39.520 but I still sort of see it.

01:13:42.020 You know,

01:13:42.340 there's a reason why I will not let my children watch Cocoa melon.

01:13:46.300 Yeah.

01:13:46.460 Yeah.

01:13:46.700 On there is absolutely bad.

01:13:49.520 I don't even know what the concept of the show is.

01:13:51.540 I just know the,

01:13:52.860 the ingredients that go into it.

01:13:54.560 And it's all about that flicker rate.

01:13:56.280 And the reason why they have that such extreme flicker rate is because they

01:14:00.560 know that the more frames that they can put in to their show is only

01:14:05.420 lulling you into a deeper form of hypnosis.

01:14:09.220 So I believe that there's like three or five frames per second in that,

01:14:14.960 uh,

01:14:15.300 in that cartoon or whatever.

01:14:16.540 Right.

01:14:17.180 They change scenes every,

01:14:18.300 like I've clocked it.

01:14:19.100 The longest I could see for one picture was six seconds.

01:14:22.060 Yeah.

01:14:22.340 Wow.

01:14:22.860 A whole nother one swapped it to a whole nother one.

01:14:25.120 And at first I was thinking,

01:14:26.280 okay,

01:14:26.540 that's just keeping the child's attention.

01:14:28.180 I understand that.

01:14:29.120 But then it's like,

01:14:29.880 wait a minute.

01:14:31.400 They're keeping the child's attention engineeredly.

01:14:34.600 And I have a problem with that.

01:14:35.820 And it's not just that they're keeping the attention.

01:14:37.420 It's like,

01:14:37.900 uh,

01:14:38.380 what you used to do was train a child's attention span to be able to pay

01:14:42.640 attention to long,

01:14:43.680 meaningful stories,

01:14:44.580 right.

01:14:44.880 With like morality and ethics and all these different things.

01:14:47.560 Now you,

01:14:48.740 instead what you've done is you just put a cast on their attention span and

01:14:51.740 you're ensuring that they're never going to have to develop one beyond

01:14:54.660 eight seconds worth of a loop because everything that they're watching,

01:14:57.800 everything they're being fed is being catered to the,

01:15:00.160 the,

01:15:00.420 the mind of a child.

01:15:01.420 And as they develop,

01:15:02.660 their mind is not going to develop.

01:15:04.060 It's a plot against podcasting.

01:15:05.620 I'm telling you,

01:15:06.460 man,

01:15:06.580 this beautiful information for our children.

01:15:09.120 They're like,

01:15:09.320 I can't pay attention for longer than 30 seconds. 1.00

01:15:11.540 These guys suck. 0.99

01:15:12.360 It's not chaotic enough. 1.00

01:15:13.160 You know what?

01:15:13.540 As I'm,

01:15:14.520 the more we do this podcast,

01:15:16.200 the more I'm,

01:15:17.320 I'm realizing the importance of your words,

01:15:19.220 right?

01:15:19.460 Because if you can lull people into a sort of trance with your words,

01:15:23.600 uh,

01:15:24.120 and you can alter their,

01:15:25.720 their brainwaves so that they're in beta.

01:15:27.740 Now they're in alpha.

01:15:28.560 They're in a flow state.

01:15:29.560 They're in a conversation state,

01:15:30.720 whatever the case may be.

01:15:31.660 Um,

01:15:33.320 it really rings true.

01:15:34.580 Then the sentiments of actually who we're going to be talking to shortly,

01:15:37.640 Ed Mabry,

01:15:38.600 uh,

01:15:39.200 who does our book of revelation series with us.

01:15:41.580 And he says that,

01:15:42.620 um,

01:15:43.800 the way to engage in spiritual warfare is with speech.

01:15:47.520 And it's like,

01:15:48.560 if we're being subjected constantly to spiritual warfare,

01:15:51.420 whether or not we're actually aware of it,

01:15:53.440 uh,

01:15:54.420 and the,

01:15:55.900 the way to combat or to fight back or defend ourselves is with our words,

01:16:00.940 then we should probably be extra careful and pick the things that we say.

01:16:06.080 Um,

01:16:06.640 and the,

01:16:07.220 and the places that our attention goes,

01:16:08.940 you know,

01:16:09.180 it's like,

01:16:09.500 that is the subtleties of spiritual warfare.

01:16:11.860 You think that it is,

01:16:13.480 you know,

01:16:13.980 always going to be sleep paralysis or always something that looks like an alien

01:16:17.240 abduction phenomenon or always some sort of demand.

01:16:19.800 No,

01:16:20.240 it's the things that you give your attention to the things that you say,

01:16:23.780 the,

01:16:24.040 the,

01:16:24.340 the,

01:16:24.720 the words that you put out into the world,

01:16:26.940 uh,

01:16:27.220 that's engaging in spiritual warfare.

01:16:29.780 Well,

01:16:29.900 words are symbols.

01:16:31.440 And although a lot of people don't want to agree with that,

01:16:35.020 or they might just say,

01:16:35.780 ah,

01:16:36.060 okay,

01:16:36.340 symbols,

01:16:36.960 whatever.

01:16:37.500 Whenever you look up at that McDonald's sign,

01:16:39.800 whenever you're passing it on the freeway,

01:16:42.120 you're not just seeing a giant M with a red bar at the bottom.

01:16:46.580 In your mind,

01:16:47.720 when you see that symbol,

01:16:48.740 you're thinking of McNuggets.

01:16:50.320 You know what I'm saying?

01:16:50.840 You're thinking of those delicious fries,

01:16:52.380 a big Mac,

01:16:53.040 a double cheeseburger,

01:16:54.020 maybe,

01:16:54.360 uh,

01:16:54.660 uh,

01:16:55.500 like a fudge sundae or something like that.

01:16:57.640 So it incorporates so much information into that tiny,

01:17:01.340 just M symbol.

01:17:02.860 And they know this.

01:17:03.980 And,

01:17:04.400 and also like even bringing it to like a political realm.

01:17:07.220 We've talked,

01:17:08.060 uh,

01:17:08.320 like at like extent,

01:17:10.740 like talking about,

01:17:11.840 um,

01:17:12.320 the,

01:17:13.360 uh,

01:17:13.660 what is it called?

01:17:14.200 Project Mockingbird.

01:17:15.380 Right.

01:17:15.900 And so you,

01:17:16.480 you,

01:17:16.760 you're even still seeing it today.

01:17:18.840 Whenever you,

01:17:19.880 you,

01:17:20.360 uh,

01:17:20.760 you hear anybody talk about Kamala Harris,

01:17:22.940 for example,

01:17:23.960 they always,

01:17:25.220 somebody said,

01:17:26.160 and somebody,

01:17:27.120 somebody said this thing talking about how joyful she is,

01:17:29.980 or she's so full of joy.

01:17:31.200 Right.

01:17:32.120 Somebody saw that and they were like,

01:17:33.480 you know what? 0.99

01:17:33.860 That's fucking good. 0.98

01:17:34.780 And we're going to run with that. 0.99

01:17:35.920 And everybody started saying it.

01:17:38.020 You can notice what it was a couple of weeks ago.

01:17:39.540 It was weird.

01:17:40.640 Anybody who's it's weird.

01:17:41.980 That's so weird.

01:17:42.760 It's like a bunch of like boomers on TV saying like, 0.99

01:17:45.300 that's weird.

01:17:45.880 That's weird behavior.

01:17:46.720 And it's like,

01:17:47.080 this is literally being engineered.

01:17:48.420 It's Mockingbird media,

01:17:49.540 but yeah,

01:17:49.840 yeah,

01:17:50.400 absolutely.

01:17:51.260 And so then you saw a hundred different,

01:17:54.040 you know,

01:17:54.560 news analysts or news anchors or whatever,

01:17:56.700 just constantly repeat the same old thing.

01:17:59.540 It's,

01:17:59.900 it's full of joy.

01:18:00.680 And what they're doing right there is that they're building the symbol of Kamala.

01:18:06.260 They're trying to encompass literally the word joy.

01:18:09.940 Whenever you think of Kamala Harris,

01:18:12.280 it instantly goes.

01:18:14.440 She's so full of joy.

01:18:15.440 That's who I want to vote for.

01:18:17.080 Never mind how crazy it is.

01:18:18.820 I had told my friend Clint,

01:18:21.320 this dude,

01:18:21.700 Clint of Liberty lockdown.

01:18:22.840 He's like big in the political commentary space.

01:18:25.920 And I was talking with him on my other show.

01:18:27.900 And I was just like,

01:18:28.600 I can see why people vote for Kamala. 0.80

01:18:30.740 And he's like,

01:18:31.020 I can't see it at all.

01:18:32.100 I don't understand.

01:18:33.200 I'm like,

01:18:33.460 no,

01:18:33.620 there is like an impression ability.

01:18:34.920 And I know people who will be impressionable to what they're feeding and why they would like her.

01:18:40.680 Like not necessarily like as like a human emotion,

01:18:43.480 but superficial,

01:18:44.680 right?

01:18:45.180 Like this thing.

01:18:45.740 Oh,

01:18:45.980 I like this.

01:18:46.660 And then they're telling you what it is.

01:18:48.040 It's like,

01:18:48.320 when I talked to my niece,

01:18:49.120 my niece is 20 years old.

01:18:50.300 I said,

01:18:50.780 after the,

01:18:51.940 you know,

01:18:52.200 Trump assassination attempt,

01:18:53.440 whatever the hell that was, 0.92

01:18:54.220 I go,

01:18:54.700 I think this dude's got it in the bag.

01:18:56.000 I think he's going to win.

01:18:56.680 She goes,

01:18:57.060 really?

01:18:57.400 I think Kamala is going to win. 0.98

01:18:58.760 And I looked over and I said,

01:18:59.920 really?

01:19:00.580 And you realize you run in like two different circles and she's 20 years old.

01:19:03.380 And she's attached to Tik TOK and Tik TOK is creating the narrative.

01:19:07.620 They're,

01:19:08.000 they're building this character.

01:19:09.080 They are to your point,

01:19:10.480 Jonathan,

01:19:10.780 they're creating a symbol and they're,

01:19:12.440 you know,

01:19:13.000 engineering all these different word associations with this symbol.

01:19:16.160 And right now,

01:19:17.620 you know,

01:19:17.900 there's a,

01:19:18.360 there's a whole generation of Gen Z kids that are going,

01:19:21.080 yeah,

01:19:21.220 I guess she's going to win.

01:19:22.320 She's the winner,

01:19:22.800 right?

01:19:23.000 Thank you,

01:19:23.860 CCP.

01:19:25.340 And regarding that whole symbolism,

01:19:28.540 you know,

01:19:28.780 you,

01:19:29.000 it makes you think like,

01:19:30.600 all right,

01:19:30.960 well,

01:19:31.160 how far does it actually go as far as the occult,

01:19:34.120 like kind of nature with this,

01:19:36.040 because you're essentially casting spells,

01:19:38.580 but all right,

01:19:39.320 well,

01:19:39.660 what also can you do within black magic that all that has to pertain to like

01:19:44.840 casting spells?

01:19:45.740 And so you also dive into sacrifice,

01:19:48.840 right?

01:19:49.340 And the whole idea of,

01:19:50.900 of sacrificing something is so that you can reap the benefits from said

01:19:53.980 sacrifice.

01:19:54.720 And there was very,

01:19:56.080 there was a very strange anomaly that we actually found like live on one of

01:20:01.240 our shows.

01:20:01.680 We were very curious,

01:20:02.600 you know, 0.77

01:20:03.740 so I'm a huge wrestling dork.

01:20:05.420 I love watching wrestling.

01:20:06.560 I have ever since I was a little kid,

01:20:08.220 it's just kind of something that stuck with me.

01:20:09.740 But I remember whenever I was a little kid that there was this old

01:20:12.140 wrestler,

01:20:12.620 his name was Kamala. 0.99

01:20:13.740 It was like this fucking Samoan kind of guy or whatever, 0.99

01:20:16.540 right? 0.99

01:20:17.080 His name was Kamala.

01:20:18.240 And strangely enough,

01:20:20.800 two months before Joe Biden announced that Kamala Harris was his running

01:20:25.980 mate,

01:20:26.680 the old wrestler Kamala dies.

01:20:28.460 And you're like,

01:20:28.960 Oh,

01:20:29.140 what a coincidence,

01:20:30.100 right?

01:20:30.580 Well,

01:20:30.840 then we go and do a little bit more digging on as far as this whole,

01:20:34.480 all right,

01:20:34.760 the wrestler Kamala dying,

01:20:36.320 whatever.

01:20:36.720 It's kind of crazy,

01:20:37.500 but you know,

01:20:38.080 it's up for whatever you think you go and find out what,

01:20:41.700 what Kamala, 1.00

01:20:42.760 the wrestlers last name was.

01:20:45.520 Yeah.

01:20:46.120 Yep. 0.99

01:20:46.360 His last name is fucking Harris, 0.99

01:20:48.920 dude. 1.00

01:20:49.300 You have Kamala Harris dying two months before she is deemed our vice president for the next 1.00

01:20:55.660 four years and possibly our president for the future.

01:20:58.260 Look at how he looks too.

01:20:59.780 He's a,

01:21:00.100 isn't he a good representation of her?

01:21:01.480 I suppose.

01:21:02.240 Isn't he top?

01:21:03.020 Can you go to the images?

01:21:03.640 I believe he has like the top hat.

01:21:05.020 He does a Papa Legba sort of a,

01:21:07.420 an imagery.

01:21:08.180 I think,

01:21:09.040 I know he's like the voodoo guy. 1.00

01:21:10.280 Maybe he's not,

01:21:10.800 maybe.

01:21:11.000 Oh,

01:21:11.280 no,

01:21:11.420 no,

01:21:11.560 no,

01:21:11.740 no.

01:21:12.560 Shango. 0.98

01:21:13.720 Oh,

01:21:14.180 that was the guy that did,

01:21:15.380 that did a Papa Legba thing. 0.67

01:21:16.960 This dude is just other kind of voodoo. 0.97

01:21:18.820 Yeah.

01:21:19.200 The other kind of voodoo. 0.95

01:21:20.040 So,

01:21:20.380 I mean,

01:21:20.860 you know,

01:21:21.280 this,

01:21:21.560 this brings me to what we say all the time,

01:21:24.360 which is like at the highest levels,

01:21:26.340 politics is theater,

01:21:27.380 but more specifically it's,

01:21:28.860 it's politics,

01:21:29.800 entertainment,

01:21:30.300 it's sports,

01:21:30.680 entertainment,

01:21:30.980 it's,

01:21:31.220 it's wrestling.

01:21:32.200 Uh,

01:21:32.440 that's what it very,

01:21:33.260 it's fun.

01:21:33.780 It's a lot of fun,

01:21:34.400 but that's what it looks like.

01:21:35.360 Um,

01:21:35.840 from,

01:21:36.260 from my point of view,

01:21:36.800 but I don't want to deviate too much cause we only have you guys for about 15 more

01:21:39.980 minutes.

01:21:40.220 And I just kind of wanted to go back to,

01:21:42.340 cause here we are right.

01:21:43.860 2024.

01:21:44.320 All of a sudden we get hit with these findings that the,

01:21:47.540 the,

01:21:48.140 uh,

01:21:48.460 the shroud doesn't,

01:21:49.920 the fact date back to roughly 2000 years ago.

01:21:53.240 Uh,

01:21:53.600 and then we have a very strange followup to that,

01:21:55.780 which is AI then generating an image of,

01:21:58.460 of Jesus Christ,

01:21:59.360 uh,

01:21:59.680 based off of its analysis of the shroud,

01:22:01.740 which I am on one hand,

01:22:03.620 um,

01:22:04.780 I'm happy about that information.

01:22:06.520 I go,

01:22:06.760 that's really cool,

01:22:07.500 man.

01:22:07.760 Because when you hear that,

01:22:08.640 especially as a conspiracy theorist or a Christian,

01:22:10.180 you go,

01:22:10.600 this is awesome.

01:22:11.500 You know,

01:22:11.740 this is,

01:22:12.180 I can't wait to look into this.

01:22:13.120 And I love that this is going to be part of the conversation again.

01:22:15.620 But then all of a sudden,

01:22:16.500 on the other hand,

01:22:16.980 you have,

01:22:17.540 um,

01:22:18.840 AI generating,

01:22:19.820 an image of Christ,

01:22:20.700 which is very strange.

01:22:22.440 So,

01:22:22.860 um,

01:22:23.300 let's bring it into modern day,

01:22:25.600 2024.

01:22:26.920 And,

01:22:27.340 and what are your thoughts on this?

01:22:29.100 The fact that it was dated.

01:22:30.220 And then,

01:22:30.800 uh,

01:22:30.960 maybe we can get into this AI thing a little bit.

01:22:33.020 Well,

01:22:33.220 first,

01:22:33.600 before we even get into that,

01:22:34.680 I kind of want to go over just a short little part,

01:22:37.020 as far as the information that was,

01:22:39.300 uh,

01:22:39.560 given out back in 1988,

01:22:40.920 whenever they went to go test it.

01:22:42.500 So there were three laboratories that tried to do carbon dating on this shroud back in 1988.

01:22:47.300 And those three laboratories were in Arizona,

01:22:50.060 Zurich or Zurich,

01:22:51.440 um,

01:22:51.840 and Oxford.

01:22:52.820 They didn't give their,

01:22:55.120 uh,

01:22:55.400 their individual findings,

01:22:56.720 which is very interesting.

01:22:57.900 They didn't give their individual findings.

01:22:59.860 They,

01:23:00.360 uh,

01:23:00.660 they averaged their findings together.

01:23:03.040 And they came to the conclusion that the,

01:23:05.660 that the shroud must've been made between the span of years,

01:23:08.620 between 1260 and 1390.

01:23:11.540 Um,

01:23:12.260 so for that,

01:23:13.960 right.

01:23:14.480 Right.

01:23:14.920 And so what really happened is,

01:23:16.600 is that the,

01:23:17.460 the Arizona slide.

01:23:18.740 So there was like a bunch of slides looking under a microscope at this thing and stuff like that.

01:23:22.360 But the Arizona slide,

01:23:24.000 uh,

01:23:24.440 slide one got a date of about 1240 while slide two got an average date of about 1440.

01:23:30.960 So there's 200 years in between literally two centimeters of cloth that they're looking at.

01:23:38.080 And as you move from left to right on the shroud,

01:23:40.480 it goes from older to younger in this,

01:23:43.080 uh,

01:23:43.280 in the space of just a few centimeters.

01:23:44.980 And it's also,

01:23:45.840 it's guessed that the sample of the shroud that they were given was a combination of the first century material along with the 16th century material,

01:23:55.020 because it kept on having to get rewoven every time it would get flooded,

01:23:58.520 every time it would get burned, 0.99

01:23:59.580 every time there was a fucking incense burning or something like that. 0.98

01:24:02.620 They kept on trying to preserve it by adding new material to it. 0.98

01:24:06.080 And so this is why there's such a wide range of possible outcome.

01:24:09.700 But then you get into,

01:24:10.940 all right,

01:24:11.200 the,

01:24:11.420 the blood,

01:24:12.120 the dirt and everything that goes along with it.

01:24:14.200 It,

01:24:14.700 it drawing all the way back to the alleged time of this actually being during Jesus's time.

01:24:20.880 And I don't know.

01:24:22.180 It's with that carbon dating.

01:24:24.020 And keep in mind,

01:24:25.120 1988 carbon dating was still a very new science and there's,

01:24:29.000 it's getting better every day,

01:24:30.140 but it's,

01:24:30.620 it wasn't an exact science back then either.

01:24:32.680 The shroud of Torrin is the most heavily scrutinized and analyzed artifacts on earth to date,

01:24:39.480 period.

01:24:40.060 More than any sarcophagus,

01:24:41.620 more than any tomb.

01:24:42.820 The shroud of Torrin has been scientifically analyzed more than them by leaps and bounds.

01:24:46.560 Okay.

01:24:46.880 But the shroud itself,

01:24:48.380 the sample that was sent to Arizona came from near a burnt part.

01:24:52.820 Now they didn't know if that would affect the carbon dating or not,

01:24:55.700 because their thought was,

01:24:56.740 why would it?

01:24:57.800 You mean the spot that had fire,

01:24:59.800 which leaves carbon would dictate a little difference on the carbon dating of the artifact.

01:25:04.900 It's wild.

01:25:05.860 So it was discovered through trial and error that the only way we can get accurate carbon dating of a sample is if we know the whereabouts of the sample for the entire time,

01:25:14.760 from the time it was left to the time we analyze it point being,

01:25:19.660 let's say we find some sort of fossilic remains and it has been underground for this long.

01:25:24.440 And we could say beyond a reasonable doubt that it's so far in the soil.

01:25:28.380 We know it's this old.

01:25:29.420 Then we compare that to carbon dating analytics and we can go from there.

01:25:32.740 Now,

01:25:33.060 if you found a sample near a volcano, 0.99

01:25:35.600 your guess is as good as mine because of the amount of carbon that's just going to be all over that shit. 0.99

01:25:39.640 Right. 0.99

01:25:39.880 But now the shroud itself,

01:25:41.460 before we get out of here,

01:25:42.380 I do want to make a mention of how it got from the tomb.

01:25:44.760 To tour in Italy and it will kind of give a little more credence as to how some of these dates and how some of these times kind of got lost to the records and why it is so quote unquote controversial.

01:25:55.100 All right.

01:25:55.800 So this is a compilation of what personally I believe is the most likely chain of events.

01:26:01.060 There are a few offshoots that certain professionals say,

01:26:03.860 but the most professionals go along this train of thought that I'm saying now.

01:26:07.160 Okay.

01:26:07.620 It was made from Jesus in the tomb and it was brought to Antioch in 70 AD.

01:26:12.920 Antioch is kind of where the newly formed,

01:26:16.060 they wouldn't have called themselves Christians,

01:26:17.740 but that group kind of based their headquarters out of Antioch.

01:26:21.680 In 540,

01:26:22.340 when the city was about to be besieged,

01:26:24.160 the patriarch of the church of Antioch sent the shroud to Constantinople.

01:26:27.620 The city was sieged.

01:26:28.800 Then after interesting fact,

01:26:30.420 the church was the only building not burned to the ground in Antioch in that siege.

01:26:34.920 Cut to five.

01:26:36.240 That was 540 when it was sent to Constantinople.

01:26:39.880 However,

01:26:40.400 it didn't make it there.

01:26:41.340 Originally the 554 AD that's 14 years later,

01:26:45.200 the shroud appeared in Camuliana.

01:26:47.500 First time that a shroud with an image on it is historically mentioned.

01:26:52.320 Okay.

01:26:52.540 Camuliana 554 AD.

01:26:55.620 Now in 574,

01:26:56.860 it gets to Constantinople and it started to become worshiped on a,

01:27:00.820 on a board.

01:27:01.500 As a matter of fact,

01:27:02.240 in the city mentioned in a letter from the French knight,

01:27:05.100 Robert DeClaire,

01:27:05.820 who participated in the siege of Constantinople.

01:27:08.000 We'll get to that in a second.

01:27:09.480 Mentioned it being praised as a holy relic.

01:27:11.780 They took the shroud and they put it on this big board.

01:27:13.820 They laid it out.

01:27:14.620 And it was on this mechanism that every Friday afternoon,

01:27:18.000 it would be raised up and the entire city would worship it as a sign of Jesus

01:27:21.560 and good Friday being died and crucified.

01:27:24.360 Right.

01:27:24.540 It was again,

01:27:25.000 they worshiped it for years as a relic,

01:27:27.760 the entire city.

01:27:29.120 Okay.

01:27:29.260 Now we don't know for a fact if this was the shroud of Torin,

01:27:33.340 but we do know that Constantinople was worshiping a cloth that came from Antioch,

01:27:38.320 that there's claims to say that it was the shroud.

01:27:40.920 Okay.

01:27:41.440 The shroud was taken by French knights during the siege of Constantinople during the

01:27:45.160 fourth crusade.

01:27:46.320 This,

01:27:46.680 the elites of the city even wrote a letter of complaint to the Pope where they

01:27:50.200 mentioned,

01:27:50.860 quote,

01:27:51.160 the French took the most holy image of Christ in quote.

01:27:55.040 That was in 1204 when the city was sieged.

01:27:57.720 Yes,

01:27:58.180 the crusades didn't set in fact,

01:27:59.980 siege a Christian city. 0.98

01:28:01.160 And if you look at the crusaders and what they did, 1.00

01:28:03.140 they kind of did that shit a lot. 0.99

01:28:04.540 They were making their way to Jerusalem, 1.00

01:28:06.540 lost their gumption,

01:28:07.860 settled on Constantinople and decided to siege it.

01:28:10.000 The Venetian hires went after the gold.

01:28:12.540 The French hires went after religious relics.

01:28:15.700 Cut to the next time we hear of a shroud is in the village of Leary,

01:28:19.560 France,

01:28:20.160 and it is owned by a knight of the name of Joffrey de Charney.

01:28:23.540 It is in 1349 claiming that it was freely given to his family.

01:28:29.100 Who's to say or not,

01:28:30.060 but that's about 120 ish,

01:28:32.460 140 ish years after it was last seen in Constantinople in 1204.

01:28:37.140 Then in 1453,

01:28:38.960 Margot de Charney,

01:28:39.960 that would be one of his descendants,

01:28:41.660 deeded the shroud to the house of Savoy.

01:28:43.540 That's the Italian Royal house.

01:28:45.260 She gave it to them for two castles. 0.93

01:28:48.060 She literally sold the shroud of Torrin to the Italian Royal family for two

01:28:52.340 castles.

01:28:52.840 The Catholic church was pretty pissed about this and actually excommunicated

01:28:56.060 her for that.

01:28:57.560 It's also worth mentioning here that this is pretty much the last place that

01:29:01.080 we know of it for sure.

01:29:02.680 1578 Emmanuel Philibert,

01:29:04.680 Duke of Savoy ordered the shall the shroud be brought to Torrin where it has

01:29:08.760 remained ever since.

01:29:10.540 During this time,

01:29:11.400 the Italian Royal family of Savoy fell out of power.

01:29:14.500 Like I said,

01:29:15.080 um,

01:29:15.720 or I'm sorry,

01:29:16.140 they started cutting off shreds of it and giving it to people as Royal

01:29:20.120 gifts.

01:29:20.580 Yeah.

01:29:21.020 A Royal,

01:29:21.480 uh,

01:29:22.220 decree from the house of Savoy.

01:29:23.740 Thank you for attending our party.

01:29:25.260 Here's a piece of the Holy holiest of relics that we currently have,

01:29:29.420 you know,

01:29:29.640 no big deal.

01:29:30.860 Uh,

01:29:31.280 the house of Savoy fell out of power in 14,

01:29:33.500 I'm sorry,

01:29:33.760 1946 after world war two.

01:29:35.840 But in 1983,

01:29:37.120 the Royal family of Savoy who was still alive,

01:29:39.660 but out of power gave it as a gift to the Holy seat.

01:29:43.000 And they have had ownership of it since 1983,

01:29:46.340 but they still keep it in the,

01:29:48.120 uh,

01:29:48.400 cathedral of St.

01:29:49.540 John the Baptist in torn Italy where it has remained to this day.

01:29:53.900 And,

01:29:54.400 uh,

01:29:54.560 you can go and see it for yourself.

01:29:56.240 All right.

01:29:56.800 I,

01:29:57.000 I have,

01:29:57.420 I know we're late in the game for this question and if it's okay to tell me 0.85

01:30:01.440 no fucking way,

01:30:02.320 we don't have enough time for that, 0.98

01:30:03.260 but your time constraints,

01:30:04.940 brother,

01:30:05.120 we got,

01:30:05.580 I know I,

01:30:06.220 well,

01:30:06.340 I'm saying if you know,

01:30:07.120 it's going to take more than seven minutes,

01:30:08.720 but,

01:30:08.900 um,

01:30:09.300 Dave,

01:30:09.560 Dave,

01:30:09.860 Dave,

01:30:10.140 imagine going to an eyes wide shut party and receiving a shroud of

01:30:12.900 touring little thing.

01:30:13.860 Honestly,

01:30:14.320 I'd be pumped.

01:30:15.120 I'd be like, 0.99

01:30:15.420 this is fucking, 1.00

01:30:16.280 this is how you treat your guests. 1.00

01:30:17.300 I'm not gonna lie.

01:30:18.060 Uh,

01:30:18.640 so when we have this image and you know,

01:30:21.600 we don't really have to get into it too much,

01:30:22.920 but AI does generate an image of Christ based off of the shroud.

01:30:27.760 And,

01:30:28.400 you know,

01:30:29.220 it looks very similar to images that have kind of garnered Christian

01:30:32.980 veneration for a long time now.

01:30:34.700 But when it comes to this,

01:30:36.920 the idea that the modern visage of Christ is actually that of Caesar

01:30:41.680 Borgia,

01:30:42.880 uh,

01:30:43.320 which is,

01:30:44.800 you know,

01:30:45.480 that,

01:30:45.760 that kind of hurts a lot of feelings when you hear that,

01:30:48.360 but I'm open to the idea,

01:30:50.300 certainly that at some point the image has been,

01:30:52.620 uh,

01:30:53.180 twisted and that we've been venerating the,

01:30:55.600 the,

01:30:55.920 you know,

01:30:56.080 some dude's son somewhere,

01:30:57.300 but then all of a sudden you look at the shroud and you go,

01:31:00.220 well,

01:31:00.460 it does maintain a lot of these features.

01:31:04.020 So let me ask you this.

01:31:04.800 Do you remember a couple of years back when they,

01:31:06.800 they took the Egyptian,

01:31:07.780 uh,

01:31:08.600 queen Cleopatra and they took her skeletal remains and they made an AI image of that. 0.99

01:31:13.420 And she came out to be a white girl that looked like Britney Spears and the internet lost their shit. 1.00

01:31:16.980 Yeah. 0.99

01:31:17.380 And they didn't realize that Cleopatra was part of the Ptolemaic dynasty.

01:31:21.080 She was white.

01:31:22.460 Her cousin had red hair.

01:31:24.100 We have most,

01:31:24.480 she wasn't a king.

01:31:26.220 Oh,

01:31:26.540 wait a minute.

01:31:27.420 Egyptians aren't traditionally black. 0.73

01:31:29.580 That's crazy.

01:31:30.260 That comes from sub-Saharan Africa. 1.00

01:31:32.140 Wild shit. 1.00

01:31:32.940 But like, 1.00

01:31:33.260 Hey,

01:31:33.360 I'm, 1.00

01:31:33.640 I'm an asshole for that. 1.00

01:31:34.700 I guess. 1.00

01:31:35.060 I don't know. 0.97

01:31:35.860 Racist.

01:31:36.300 So to your point, 0.88

01:31:37.380 we have been seeing this image of Jesus white guy with blue eyes and these curly locks.

01:31:42.260 And that's been the image that was clearly a Borgia.

01:31:45.160 Well,

01:31:45.960 and also going on top of that too,

01:31:48.040 is that you see throughout the years and this could be argued.

01:31:52.100 It's just my own kind of understanding,

01:31:55.200 which is why I don't really claim a religion.

01:31:58.400 I just like to garner,

01:32:00.340 you know,

01:32:00.780 the,

01:32:01.200 the,

01:32:01.520 the spiritual aspects of it.

01:32:02.980 But,

01:32:03.500 and so one weird thing is,

01:32:06.180 is that somebody speculated that the,

01:32:08.600 the reason why his name was changed to Jesus Christ.

01:32:11.720 And you start to see,

01:32:13.500 you know,

01:32:13.740 pictures of Caesar Borgia that was probably,

01:32:15.940 what was it? 0.98

01:32:16.860 Michelangelo's fucking boyfriend or something like that. 1.00

01:32:19.100 Right. 0.99

01:32:20.180 And you start to see that through like magic in the occult that you can essentially incorporate the energy of somebody in the past.

01:32:28.860 You know,

01:32:29.160 we,

01:32:29.440 we had done an episode not that long ago about how Saddam Hussein really believed that he was the reincarnation of King Nebuchadnezzar.

01:32:36.440 Right.

01:32:37.220 And so you're essentially,

01:32:38.200 you're trying to take on that energy by claiming,

01:32:41.060 look,

01:32:41.260 I'm the reincarnation of that.

01:32:42.600 So you're developing that thought process.

01:32:44.260 It's a weird,

01:32:44.900 like subconscious kind of thing that you can have,

01:32:48.220 you know,

01:32:48.960 different personalities enter into you.

01:32:51.280 Some may call that schizophrenia,

01:32:52.420 but that being said,

01:32:54.740 you would try and take on maybe the certain powers.

01:32:57.400 And some have speculated that the whole reason why maybe Jesus,

01:33:01.120 Jesus's name changed from Yeshua to Jesus to Jesus Christ specifically is because of the old boy who was king during a certain period.

01:33:12.400 Right.

01:33:12.720 And that's where it gets into Julius Caesar,

01:33:14.520 the JC right there.

01:33:15.700 So I'm not saying that Julius Caesar was trying to incorporate the energy of Jesus Christ and have all the people of all the land worship him as though he is maybe the reincarnation.

01:33:26.340 It's just a speculative thought.

01:33:29.000 But,

01:33:29.780 you know,

01:33:30.020 some people will always say like LeBron James always calling himself the king.

01:33:34.140 He's,

01:33:34.440 he's always calling himself the greatest of all time.

01:33:36.520 Like you think of like these terms that we give everybody that these are symbols.

01:33:41.580 These are,

01:33:42.640 these are things that you can assign to that person's character too.

01:33:46.560 So now whenever you think of LeBron,

01:33:48.900 you think,

01:33:49.420 Oh,

01:33:49.560 King James.

01:33:50.340 Oh,

01:33:50.440 you mean King James that wrote the Bible.

01:33:51.840 And so these things,

01:33:52.900 they start to stack up on top of each other in the subconscious mind.

01:33:56.520 I'm going to say this though.

01:33:57.660 If you ever see an image of Jesus and he's hot,

01:34:00.360 that's an incorrect image.

01:34:01.520 I'm sorry.

01:34:01.980 He was a Jew. 0.99

01:34:02.840 He was from Nazareth,

01:34:03.940 big nose,

01:34:04.520 curly hair, 0.99

01:34:05.060 sucked at sports. 0.99

01:34:05.680 That's him. 0.98

01:34:06.200 That's the guy.

01:34:06.820 That's the dude.

01:34:07.340 He was a carpenter before power tools.

01:34:09.540 Your boy was like yoked,

01:34:11.140 but not like hitting the gym.

01:34:12.780 Yoke.

01:34:13.060 I'm talking like workable weight.

01:34:14.460 Yoke.

01:34:14.780 Like that.

01:34:15.160 That was a guy.

01:34:15.860 He was your boy.

01:34:16.960 You know,

01:34:17.320 he had incredible grip strength.

01:34:18.780 Let me know.

01:34:19.440 Yeah.

01:34:20.040 Have you,

01:34:20.400 have you guys ever heard of the work of Dr.

01:34:23.440 Jerry Marzinski?

01:34:25.040 No.

01:34:25.360 I haven't.

01:34:26.180 Okay.

01:34:26.860 That's an interesting rabbit hole that I think you guys should go down where he,

01:34:31.000 uh,

01:34:31.420 he's a licensed psychotherapist,

01:34:32.800 but he doesn't think schizophrenia is a mental disorder or hallucinations.

01:34:37.660 He thinks it's actually entities.

01:34:40.840 And,

01:34:40.980 uh,

01:34:41.340 you,

01:34:41.580 you had mentioned that like just before,

01:34:43.160 just briefly.

01:34:43.620 And I'm like,

01:34:44.020 Oh,

01:34:44.180 they,

01:34:44.380 they would get a kick out of all of his work.

01:34:46.900 If you guys,

01:34:47.360 we should pass along his,

01:34:48.920 uh,

01:34:49.160 his information.

01:34:49.820 Cause I think you guys would have a lot of fun with him.

01:34:51.800 Hell yeah.

01:34:52.400 I would love that.

01:34:53.620 Well,

01:34:54.040 look guys,

01:34:54.580 this is,

01:34:55.120 this is where we landed. 0.99

01:34:56.020 You guys absolutely fucking crushed. 0.99

01:34:57.840 Uh, 0.93

01:34:58.080 thank you so much for your time before we get out of here.

01:35:00.740 Um,

01:35:01.140 can you just once again,

01:35:02.360 let everybody know where they can find a cult of conspiracy?

01:35:06.340 Yeah.

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01:35:15.220 If you're interested in our video,

01:35:16.980 unfortunately we got canned from YouTube so long ago,

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01:35:20.400 many,

01:35:21.020 many times that now I am no longer able to even recreate a YouTube channel

01:35:26.280 because I believe that they're probably tracking my IP address at this

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01:35:29.620 Yeah.

01:35:29.820 Um,

01:35:30.140 so we have decided to move all of our video over to Patreon and Rockfin.

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01:35:39.720 but it's patreon.com slash cult of conspiracy podcast or rockfin.com slash cult of

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01:35:44.640 And,

01:35:45.100 uh,

01:35:45.500 yeah,

01:35:45.700 we,

01:35:45.940 we like to have a great time over there.

01:35:47.800 Um,

01:35:48.040 every Tuesday night we go live with all of our cult members on the third eye,

01:35:51.740 all the way open tier.

01:35:52.900 As a matter of fact,

01:35:53.800 just this past Tuesday,

01:35:54.760 we,

01:35:55.180 uh,

01:35:55.320 we hosted the presidential debate and we kind of,

01:35:57.940 we're all watching it and tuning in every so often.

01:36:00.140 And,

01:36:00.580 and it's just always a great time and it helps support the show big time.

01:36:03.800 And yeah,

01:36:04.720 definitely come check us out.

01:36:06.060 We are hitting on a wide range of all conspiracies and all different

01:36:09.680 philosophies.

01:36:10.380 It's always a great time.

01:36:11.500 So we appreciate you guys having us on here,

01:36:13.820 dude.

01:36:13.920 This was a blast.

01:36:15.200 Also,

01:36:15.240 if you like metaphysical things and you like hearing about things with the

01:36:18.540 third eye all the way open,

01:36:19.820 go check out Jonathan spinoff on meta mysteries.

01:36:22.440 Also on all listening platforms where he gets all into the ethereal,

01:36:26.080 the magical,

01:36:26.860 the,

01:36:27.040 the off the beaten path type of information.

01:36:29.280 And also Cajun night on YouTube.

01:36:31.660 That is my new spinoff where I'm going to be covering geopolitics,

01:36:34.920 boo hurt and night fighting.

01:36:36.620 And I think I might do some religious content later on.

01:36:39.540 I'm not sure to what level,

01:36:40.720 but go check me out on that.

01:36:41.820 It just launched.

01:36:42.580 It's in the opening phases,

01:36:43.680 but I appreciate all the subscribes and the love as far as,

01:36:47.220 um,

01:36:47.640 and as far as like socials,

01:36:49.140 we're really the most active on Instagram.

01:36:50.840 You can just find us over there at cult of conspiracy podcast.

01:36:53.160 You guys aren't on Twitter at all.

01:36:54.980 I,

01:36:55.540 we have one. 0.99

01:36:56.480 I'm in charge of it and I suck at it. 0.95

01:36:58.500 So I, 0.60

01:36:58.960 I'm more active.

01:37:00.120 I literally just quit my job two weeks ago to do this full time because we

01:37:03.760 finally got to that point.

01:37:04.800 So we are going to get so many more wheels rolling here in the next few

01:37:08.220 weeks,

01:37:08.440 but get on right now. 0.99

01:37:09.580 It sucks. 0.99

01:37:10.220 Get your Twitter, 1.00

01:37:10.920 get your Twitter up.

01:37:11.600 I have like a decent following on there.

01:37:13.040 So like,

01:37:13.440 I try to help people like that are,

01:37:15.500 if there's some reason,

01:37:16.380 Instagram game,

01:37:17.200 very strong Twitter.

01:37:18.860 They're not paying attention,

01:37:19.760 but honestly that's where the dialogue is going on.

01:37:21.900 So I'm I'll get hit me up,

01:37:24.040 man.

01:37:24.220 I love to,

01:37:24.780 I'll put notifications on retweet.

01:37:26.320 Yeah.

01:37:26.640 Get your stuff out there.

01:37:27.740 Thank you.

01:37:29.000 Guys.

01:37:30.280 Wait,

01:37:30.640 real quick.

01:37:31.080 Let's just do a quick announcement when it comes to Bohemian Grove guys,

01:37:33.340 don't forget to go to bro grove.com.

01:37:35.740 Uh,

01:37:36.020 come to Summerfield,

01:37:37.120 Florida,

01:37:37.460 October 25th through the 26th at the joke joint.

01:37:39.640 You'll see,

01:37:40.180 uh,

01:37:41.200 Leonardo Joni performing standup comedy.

01:37:43.420 Uh,

01:37:43.800 tower gang is going to be there.

01:37:44.900 Nephilim death squad,

01:37:45.720 the one-on-one podcast,

01:37:47.100 Thomas,

01:37:47.340 the paranoid American,

01:37:48.440 uh,

01:37:48.880 Josie,

01:37:49.160 the redheaded libertarian,

01:37:50.700 uh,

01:37:51.260 Jay Dyer is going to be there.

01:37:52.380 It's going to be awesome.

01:37:53.200 It's a two day event.

01:37:54.280 It's all conspiracy comedy and,

01:37:56.000 uh,

01:37:56.600 politics.

01:37:57.000 If you want your tickets,

01:37:58.320 go to bro grove.com and get them before they sell out.

01:38:01.360 Cause they are moving fast.

01:38:02.280 So,

01:38:02.560 uh,

01:38:02.800 and we're closing in October,

01:38:03.880 October 25th through the 26th.

01:38:05.500 All right,

01:38:05.780 Dave,

01:38:05.980 stop grifting.

01:38:06.520 They got to go.

01:38:07.000 All right.

01:38:07.640 All right.

01:38:08.100 Peace.

01:38:08.780 The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:38:14.760 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:38:18.140 If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see,

01:38:23.560 because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.

01:38:30.880 And they have.

Nephilim Death Squad - April 27, 2025

TIME CAPSULE： The Shroud of Turin w⧸ Cult of Conspiracy

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