Venue Cancellation Dramaļ¼ Behind the Scenes of 'Bohemian Grove'
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On this week's episode, the boys recap their day at Bohemian Grove and talk about the unfortunate cancellation of their upcoming documentary. Also, the guys talk about what it's like to be a professional gambler in a casino.
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Gerard Michaels was like, he's apparently defending James.
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It's odd, like the lines that people are defending James Lindsay on.
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We should probably start by talking about what we set out to do today.
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We were going to go and see the theater and kind of, you know, iron out some details,
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figure out where we were going to hang banners.
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And we even brought our documentarian, the homie Al, came to come and check out the venue,
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see how he was going to set up his camera angles.
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Now, we were hitting a stride there, measuring surfaces.
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I can get it for you if you want me to get your sunglasses.
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We were getting a feel for how this is going to.
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And we were getting our hands on the set decor.
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And today, it's basically the last day for me to.
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I might have like another day or two to get measurements for banners and such like that
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for the sponsors and for things to look nice and for people to take us seriously as an
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He's going to be working with us to do a documentary of some type.
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And the documentary we set out to do initially was it was supposed to be like about entities
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So I don't even know how Clint would have fit into this.
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You know how the camera's catching him as blurry?
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That's actually how he looks in real life all the time.
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Unfortunately, the lighting in here is so good that I'm going to have to get a new
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Well, I figured the documentary was going to start to roll into not just the spooky of
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entities and people and their experiences and all these other things, but it was also
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going to be partly about what we were doing, you know, executing Bohemian Grove, which
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is, I guess, a pretty a pretty offensive undertaking.
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And I didn't necessarily know when we set out to do it, that Bohemian Grove had the capacity
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You are really detached from reality if you thought that there was no chance of this.
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You guys have been steeped in this for a lot longer than I have.
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Well, I know, which is why you should be even more on guard than I am.
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I think when you've been at war for as long as you have, you continually get dinged, you
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get scars, you get marred, and that kind of causes a bit of hesitation.
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I haven't been molested by cancel culture in the way that you guys have.
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So I am still in that kind of gung-ho phase where I'm just moving forward.
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So yeah, I didn't think that this was going to be something that was going to rub people
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Like we explicitly pulled him aside and said, David, this could actually be something
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So yeah, the long and short of it is that we are essentially our venue has been ripped
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We don't know for sure that that's official or not.
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We are using our context to try and put additional leverage to see if we can actually still make
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it happen at the location that we were intending.
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But as of today, we may be reorienting to a different location, which is a few miles away.
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So very frustrating, 17 days before the event, 17 days before the event.
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And as you guys know, you know, I moved out here for this and David moved out here for
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And what's really frustrating is that I think people, I think the audience will probably want
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It's, it's the cancel mob of Owen Benjamin's, I don't know, former fans or deranged haters.
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But it's, uh, Owen Benjamin's people contacted the venue.
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They talked, contacted allegedly the mayor of the town.
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And, uh, and this is what happened is that because of his write-ups in the, what was it?
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So we're on stage and we're getting measurements and we're trying to, uh, really zero in on
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the vision and, uh, top is suddenly called backstage to talk to the guy who more or less
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runs the venue, doesn't own the venue, but he's kind of the guy that oversees, you know,
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And, um, you know, I'll let you top say what it is that he said to you, but after you disappeared
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and came back and told us the news, I genuinely thought for a brief moment in time that he was
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And I thought it was, you know, I thought it was funny.
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It's just very, it's a very weird, uh, way that it played out.
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We were standing at the venue to measure, uh, signage and stuff like that.
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So to be told while we are measuring to put up the pro you know, appropriate signage,
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uh, that is where we were conveyed the message that we had in fact been canceled.
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And, and by the way, this is something that we have, uh, gone to pretty clear lengths to
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And the people that we are bringing here are going to ruffle some feathers.
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You know, it's not something that I, I didn't think it was multiple times.
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I've, uh, in upon the first meeting with, uh, Dustin at the Tropic theater, I did tell him
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like, we dabble in don't just dabble like, but we are offensive comedy.
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Premier comedians tell us we are offensive comedy.
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They tell us that we are the new comedy moving forward.
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What, what it needs to be Clint, if you could pull up, uh, well, eventually I sent to the
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dangerous chat, uh, the information about the person who did dox us.
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Um, so as, uh, yeah, we'll just go ahead and say what was happening.
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And we're taking measurements, uh, for sponsor advertisements and things like that, making
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And, uh, Dustin pulls me aside and he goes, oh, can I talk to you for a minute?
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And he shows me his phone, but doesn't really show me any, uh, like no details, no message,
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He says that he gets a message from the mayor of Leesburg.
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I was like, this is the, the doxing threat that we received a couple of days ago.
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There's a group of people that are going to get it canceled anyway.
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Which is funny coming from a guy who is at D doxins.
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I'm not a part of it, but I'm just giving you, oh, thank you for the good.
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I'm sure had no, no inside information as to what was going on there.
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He says that it comes from, he's getting word from the mayor of the town.
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And since it's a city owned venue, he's like, well, we see that you have this guy, Benjamin.
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And he was like, oh, yes, well, you know, it looks like this guy is, and then he names the buzzwords.
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And this is why I was concerned when I saw this posting.
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But I just have, I lack the verbiage for these type of people.
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Um, when he said that, you know, we were going to basically get you canceled from the, from the thing.
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Um, the person who we spoke with originally that owns half the town knows Owen Benjamin.
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So we're going to maintain a relationship as, as long as we need to, until we do this.
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Um, I don't think it's, I don't think it's beneficial to be saying that we don't like, we don't like the person.
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I'm sure that this person doesn't like me because when I said, can I see the text messages?
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Instead, he showed me an ADL article from five years ago about Owen Benjamin.
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He said, oh, well, it turns out this guy is a racist, a bigot, yada, yada.
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I mean, I'm sure you could find the ADL article.
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And then I'll, so this is just, so this is the guy Debo docs and that, uh, you know, he said that stuff.
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And then we just looked at his page and we found who he was.
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And, uh, as you can see there at the bottom, his name, D Heflin, right?
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Uh, I have other screenshots of where the guy lives in Virginia on 500 acres or on three,
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We found another person named Dennis James Heflin, 38 years old, which is the age of this
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So he says, but I, I don't think so because people that have.
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Um, so Virginia group home employee arrested after inappropriate relationship with 16 year
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Um, one of the people that I'm sure that there's a group in parentheses.
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Uh, so these, but it's, it's just, it's, so I had the opportunity, um, as I'm talking
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to this guy to say like, you know, can't cancel culture is a sham.
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But I look right at him and I go, this is not worth my time.
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And I'm just like, he said, uh, he said, well, apparently this guy's an anti-Semite and,
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And he goes, well, you know, just the governor or the, the, the mayor of the town.
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And you know, they're, this is city owned and they're just not going to go for it.
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And I'm just like, all right, well, there's no substance here.
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What it seemed like to me is that these people are theater people.
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So I'm like, like, I have a very good, uh, radar for this.
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That's why I told you a while ago, once this guy said this, I was like, oh, these people
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It's just very frustrating to me because I told the guy, I mean, I backed you up on our
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And I said, look, whatever you think is aggressive comedy, we're more aggressive than that.
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You know, I told, I, I tried to make it as crystal clear as humanly possible.
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And I was like, all right, well then I have nothing to worry about.
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Essentially what we're given here is an ultimatum.
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And that ultimatum is you can do this here, but you can't do it with Owen Benjamin, which
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flies in the face of all of our values, which is a hilarious thing to say, given my occupation
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as a troll on Twitter and our capacity and dangerous.
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But believe it or not, we do have values and those values fly in the face of this culture.
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Yeah, I'm not going to, I'm not going to do that.
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The same way I wasn't going to cancel, uh, revenge of the sis for, to have Owen Benjamin
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This was something that was a while ago where these two guys didn't get along rightfully.
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So I think, uh, Mersh was, I think doxing Owen Benjamin at the time.
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Um, so I guess the situation was like, Hey, I can't be associated with these people.
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You know, that there's going to be a grip of cash coming from, uh, Owen Benjamin merch,
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which is something that I'd love to be associated and love to make.
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And I just simply told Owen, I'm not going to cancel these guys to have you on.
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We're not going to do this event with Owen Benjamin.
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We're not going to say, Hey, we purport to be dangerous and we purport to fly in the
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face of these, you know, cancel culture faggots.
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Well, cause the thing is, it's like, I've, I've looked at, I've looked at like what Owen
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And I'm like, it's nothing I wouldn't have done.
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Here's, here's the truth to the, the headliner for day one currently has a closing bit where
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So if we, if we back out on Owen, then it just becomes, all right, now Tripoli is beyond
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And then they figure out that toad was canceled for covering how Hitler and then, and then
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And then it's, I don't know, whatever my political beliefs are.
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And Oh, I've had articles written up about me from the SPLC.
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So it's just, we need to have, we need to basically hold the line, use, use the context
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we have to see if we can still get this venue to function for us.
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And if it can't, then we know that we've made a mistake and this town's not for us.
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And we're, we're being forced to ask the question, which I, I almost enjoy, I don't
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enjoy that this is happening, but I love the fact that we are at this crossroads where
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it's, do we, are we trying to do this thing because there's money in it and it's fun?
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Well, but now we're being forced to decide between those two.
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This is the craziest thing that we, and I've been telling you for years that the money will
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come as a consequence of us not focusing on the money.
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The money has come as a consequence of it, of me not focusing on it.
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But I'm just, I'm just saying the more we don't focus on the money, the more the money
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Because if it's long term, we have an opportunity here to move the dial in the favor of a culture
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I could be doing another career that I make 50 times what I make on this.
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But it's just that there is a benefit to this being a revenue producing enterprise in that
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we can do cooler and bigger things and shift and move the culture in a lot of different ways.
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And we can actually start to compete with some of the people that are at the highest levels
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of what we do, but aren't as good or aren't as, I don't know, risk taking as we are.
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And that's the reason I would like for this to be profitable at some point.
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But at this point, I think it's just like we just got to hold the line and see if we
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It's a major bummer because the infrastructure there was ideal for what we wanted to do.
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The other options are more like comedy clubs, just standard sets.
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And they're nice, but they're not going to be as nice.
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They're not going to be in a town, but you know, and, and I mean, what's really sad is
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that this venue was so perfect in that there's a bar right across the street.
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We had already negotiated, you know, cut off of the room that was allowed for 75 additional
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So everybody that paid for VIP tickets got to come and have dinner with us and drinks after
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If we can still make this venue work, it is ideal, but it's just, I'm not going to cave
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So, I mean, one of the things that's really going for us though, is we're kind of blessed
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that a lot of really cool people want to see as much as we want to see this happen.
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It's a lot of people, especially on Twitter that want to see this thing happen.
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I mean, the fact that Milo Yiannopoulos just reaches out yesterday and says, Hey, I would
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And they're like, I would like you to attend too, Milo.
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I mean, I just, I just want people to understand, you know, from my vantage point, I don't know
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if you guys have the same relationship with Milo that I do, but I remember Milo coming
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And I was just, I was so, and that's just going to sound, I was so enamored with him.
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Uh, I mean, his elocution, the way he, he goes after people.
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So, uh, oh my God, David, David's actually, David's actually looking this up right now.
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This, this, the skill of clear and expressive speech, especially of distinct pronunciation
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Anyways, uh, I, uh, I just remember seeing him and he really, I'm, I wouldn't say that
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he inspired me into the podcast world, but he certainly, he's not in, he's not in the podcast
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He's, uh, he circles around it, but he's inspired me to like do this thing.
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Like when, when I told, but I'm saying like the, the cutting, the cutting edge political
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commentary, he definitely inspired me in that arena.
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Cause he was just like, I'm going to say things that are taboo.
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Like I just remember when he was on Bill Maher a couple of times and I was just like,
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And he was doing it when it was, I would argue that, uh, the culture is shifting.
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He was doing it smack dead in the center of this in the middle of Canada.
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Like you don't, that is the apex of the cancel mob.
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I was supposed to send him a dangerous shirt, which, uh, you should do that.
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I'm so busy planning this theater that, uh, doesn't exist anymore.
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Well, look, I don't want to, and I don't think we are going to give this up without a fight.
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So we have an alternative venue to fall back on, which means we're going to have our work
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Um, but we're waiting right now on bated breath for, you know, uh, basically whatever
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support we might have to pull this in the direction that we want to go.
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And if this doesn't go in the direction that we want to go, well, I mean, you know, we
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got a fight on our hands and we got to pipe up.
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So I don't know what this is going to look like going forward for the next week or two,
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but if this doesn't stay the way that we want it to stay, then, uh, we're not just laying
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And for those people who are going to say things as people said the same when it happened
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to toad, it's like, Oh, you thought that you were going to do something offensive.
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The, the idea of this, uh, it's not just college half of it's comedy because that's
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The first half I think is actually the most dangerous to these people.
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And it's like, uh, we're talking about these higher entities at work.
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We're talking about actual serious things that affect people.
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And I, you know, Clint might not be in this world, but there's a lot of people that are
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And we, we have a doc, we have a guy that's, we're going to film a documentary specifically
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But although now that documentary might shift, I mean, wait, what world am I not in?
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Well, just for the listeners who may not be aware of the first day of Bohemian Grove
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was going to be themed, but it was going to be about people's encounters with these entities,
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uh, these entities, as they appear historically throughout different cultures, and then how
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these entities connect to the modern day UFO phenomenon and the abduction phenomenon.
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And it's something that's really important to us.
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Uh, this is a, this is a distraction in my opinion.
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But what I do with the comedy is, uh, release valve.
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It was almost going to be like, here's all this really harrowing, but don't worry tomorrow.
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We're going to say the things that, you know, that you're not allowed to say, because what
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And we just spoke about the most important thing in the world.
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We're talking about the entities that persuade and persist and push people to do these things,
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which I mean, you're talking about what, what kind of entities do you think, uh, persuaded
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I know, I know you disagree, Clint, but listen, I don't, I don't disagree with that.
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I just, I think that there, there are times when the culture war or it's valuable to fight.
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And I think there are times when it's counterproductive.
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And I think that Glenn Greenwald's a good example of someone that, that when you realize why
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that came out, not to say that like what he did was okay, it's far from okay.
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But the timing, but the timing of it, given the fact that he, that, that broke literally
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the day that he was recording with Tucker Carlson and then his interview with Tucker Carlson
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And I think that the culture warriors that attack him in that moment are, are feeding into
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There's definitely opportunism, uh, opportunistic behavior that they're going to try and like
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take him out for their own reasons, whether they think that they want to be that next journalist
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I just think, I think maybe we could just say both like, Hey man, great work.
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I liked the way you wrote, but you probably shouldn't have kids, man.
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I just don't think that now's the time for that.
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And like, he did retweet, like, listen, he retweeted it and he's like, I'm proud of
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I, I, I would have said, you know, what I do in my private life is, you know, arguably
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not ideal or something, something other than saying you're proud of it was just like, bro.
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And I, I understand that you need to ask yourself why it's out right now.
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Here's a discussion that we, that like, this is why I bring up Glenn Greenwald because what
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he's doing and, and this is like the side that he is defending.
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He's like, this is even if this is my private life, like a very libertarian stance, I'm allowed
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to do and run a website for male prostitutes while I have two kids, two male boys.
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But like these same people that are on this side, especially look, it's June, you know,
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it's a, this is month you're going to cancel us from, you're going to cancel Owen Benjamin
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for something he said eight years ago, which is actually now factually correct.
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Like it's, it's the fact that real problems people, that ADL article wasn't necessarily
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The ADL article was him saying, Hey, you can't do this to kids.
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And we're going to say like slightly safe here, but you can't do a certain thing to
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Hey, did you see, by the way, there's a video that's going on around right now of a
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moil, you know, the, the guy that does the circumcision and any, they put the baby
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I just, the thing is I have a, I have a very hard time correlating.
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Should I be personally convicted for knowing these people or for saying the things I say
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or for acting the way I act, joking the way I joke when I look out and it's a stark
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Everything is the perfect video played on Twitter the other day where it's like, here
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They mix them all together and they turn brown and they just wrote like, exactly.
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I just want to, we can't, we can't say things into a microphone.
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It's like, okay, you know, listen, I just, I reject the premise and I disagree.
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And we're just going to continue to do what we do.
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I just want to go back and highlight that though.
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You know, it's like, we're not saying we're surprised and we're not saying what was me.
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I think what we're gearing up to say, if this goes in the direction that we think it's
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If you wanted to see this event, you have an opportunity.
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If you support us to galvanize to this, these mothers are stopping.
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They think they can still do this in 2025 when the culture is shifting and they don't realize
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And I think that we have an opportunity to ride that wave and not say, woe is me.
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But to once again, in the same spirit of toad, stick your middle finger up and go you, this
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As far as I'm concerned, if it's not happening there, it's happening somewhere else, but you're
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We're not going to do this without Owen Benjamin.
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I'm not compromising my values and the entire thing that I built, whatever platform I have.
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I mean, you live, you cannot stop this from happening.
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If I want to, if I really, if I really want to, this is happening no matter what.
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It was like, we'd like to do it here, but it was like one of those things where, again,
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This is, this, but this is also what people want to see.
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People want to buy tickets and see these people because they're very funny.
00:27:20.040
So people are buying tickets from all over the world.
00:27:23.140
It's not even just the country, Norway, Costa Rica, Australia.
00:27:28.020
I think someone's coming from like places in South America, London.
00:27:31.660
There's places in London people are coming from and all over the country.
00:27:35.440
And when we did this last time, the owner of the venue looked around and he was like,
00:27:38.480
I was talking to some of these people and I was asking them, where are you from?
00:27:44.320
People were saying Kentucky, California, Ohio, Oregon.
00:27:52.460
I mean, we're going to make it happen regardless.
00:27:54.380
It's just in terms of ideal venue and vibe and everything.
00:28:01.040
Yeah, this venue that the other venue that I that I'm going to have to set up is a it's
00:28:07.720
And we're blessed that he opened this one up when he did, because before it was a hundred
00:28:14.720
So this place is going to look not filled out at all.
00:28:18.340
You know, whereas the other one would have been max capacity.
00:28:21.820
The other one, we would have to do this outside.
00:28:27.140
This one had a stage and it's this one had this theater, the reason why I used it.
00:28:31.620
And even I have like, again, I have a very good sense of these people when you're talking
00:28:38.100
to somebody who is diametrically opposed to you politically or culturally.
00:28:43.460
Like, I got to care for what I say around this person because they'll crumble.
00:28:46.560
Yeah, I just I just know you, you know, there are markers, especially when you've been doing
00:28:53.340
But it was always like, this is the reason I still set it up and went forward going in
00:28:58.160
this place is because it's ideal, not just ideal for like what I'd like to see, but it's
00:29:03.680
We have a we in my opinion, you have two of the best comedians.
00:29:07.500
You've got Sam Tripoli and you have Owen Benjamin, who have both agreed they don't even really
00:29:13.000
They've agreed to come and perform at this thing because it's special.
00:29:15.780
Oh, and because they like us and whatever that aside.
00:29:19.080
But they deserve saying I don't think I don't think they do it if it's not us putting it
00:29:24.840
But they deserve this thing to look and be the best that it could possibly be.
00:29:33.480
And I think even more importantly than, you know, how it makes Owen and Sam and us feel
00:29:43.660
Oh, it would be it would be such a special event.
00:29:46.860
And just the vibe would be like, wow, these guys really did it.
00:29:50.380
Here's the reality of what's going on with this place in Leesburg.
00:29:54.940
Leesburg is the third largest, the third fastest growing town in America.
00:30:02.040
They are pouring a ton of money into infrastructure, into apartments, into businesses, rentals,
00:30:13.740
They're building this place up to be a place that people want to visit.
00:30:23.120
Maybe you go to like South Florida if you're looking to be a New York City liberal.
00:30:28.840
But in this part of Florida, you come here because this is like a rural spot.
00:30:34.740
When I meet the people from central Florida and I go, they're like, my family has owned
00:30:38.940
this property for 500 years or something like that.
00:30:51.340
And, you know, the people who own this place, they have a vision for it.
00:30:54.600
They want to see this place be filled with young people that are thriving in a culture.
00:30:59.080
What kind of culture do you want for this place?
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Do you want to put on plays for 30 old people or do you want to move culture?
00:31:12.500
Top of the line comedians coming through into a theater that was defunct, not just four months
00:31:19.680
But, you know, you could do you could do whatever you want.
00:31:25.520
But well, I mean, let's just consider what happened with Austin as a consequence of Rogan.
00:31:32.260
It wasn't like for those that aren't familiar with Austin.
00:31:39.660
It's filled with a bunch of purple hair and blue haired, you know, people that you would
00:31:43.440
But it didn't change the fact that Rogan went in there and, you know, whether whatever
00:31:47.780
you feel about Rogan's comedy, the all the up and comers that he's put on the map with
00:31:59.640
Many of them are certainly by this by this place's standards.
00:32:07.680
So but what did what did Rogan do for Austin as a consequence of setting up shop there?
00:32:18.320
Well, I guess we'll just move this circus to another spot.
00:32:23.100
And I'll be honest, I don't think it even really comes from comes from the mayor.
00:32:30.500
I think he showed me an article about an ADL search that he did.
00:32:35.200
And that was sent by probably by one loan on the Internet.
00:32:42.500
I mean, listen, if this if this goes out, if you're watching this right now, it means
00:32:47.680
that things have went awry and this will go out to a quarter million people on Clint's
00:33:02.020
I mean, Elijah Schaefer, eight hundred thousand.
00:33:07.420
These are this is like we're talking in the millions and we're talking about like people
00:33:12.620
that are they've given you they have given you the responsibility of cultivating their
00:33:19.620
And if this does fall on your opinion, you are cultivating it incorrectly.
00:33:25.380
And you're going to see it's going to be not great.
00:33:30.460
I just want to really emphasize like what Rogan did to Austin.
00:33:33.500
I'm not saying we could do the same thing, but we have a chance to do a similar thing.
00:33:42.480
If you want to actually make this place known for something outside of Florida, because
00:33:47.800
We can make it known all over the country, if not the world.
00:33:52.640
So as much as we wanted to do this for, you know, the performers and to give them something
00:33:57.740
Also, all these people who are coming from all over the place, they're they're paying
00:34:01.940
And it would have been and it's not dead yet, but it would have been great to have provided
00:34:06.120
something that was a real experience that was legitimate, that was professional for the
00:34:10.500
people that are spending their hard earned money to travel across the country and come
00:34:13.240
and see this, you know, so we'll see how it develops.
00:34:16.040
I guess we're kind of really it's it's down to today, I think, because crunch time is such
00:34:22.060
that once we get this conversation for whoever's pulling on our behalf, if it's a go, then it's
00:34:43.780
I'll be at Freedom Fest June 11th through the 14th, which is like right in between now
00:34:50.480
OK, and the reason I'm bringing that up is like because we we may have to reorient.
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I'm not going to be able to help during that period because I'm going to be spending
00:34:58.660
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I asked for it specifically because I wanted to have the graffiti look.
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And it was it was an experiment that went awry.
00:36:01.880
But it looks great until Al decided to body slam the thing.
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Al came like the top ropes, like just busting his balls.
00:36:16.220
No, I want to I want to go back to the Greenwald conversation.
00:36:19.600
OK, just to go something a little bit more content besides the internal strife.
00:36:26.620
I mean, I just want to remind people, regardless of how you feel about what he's done and whether
00:36:30.460
or not he should be a father, whether or not those kids should be taken from him, whatever
00:36:35.760
This dude risked his life to get out the biggest story in our lifetimes, as far as I'm
00:36:42.060
He also was involved with the release of much of Julian Assange's stuff.
00:36:49.680
I don't know what role he played in the X drops, but regardless, he was given he was
00:36:56.800
OK, so, I mean, those are I mean, setting aside the X stuff, which is very important to
00:37:02.280
us, I don't know how important it was worldwide, but I'm telling you, man, there's there's just
00:37:07.160
there's certain things and risks that people take that I'm like, I'm just never going to
00:37:12.320
I'm never going to abandon you fully after you've like if you risk your life, I just
00:37:19.460
And I think that it's very short sighted because, like, if you do that, if you're just like,
00:37:26.620
Oh, you're you know, you do like we don't know that he's inappropriate with his kids.
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But if we're if we're going to paint a broad brush, it's not a good look, man.
00:38:18.240
I'm just saying we don't know that he's done anything untoward with his children.
00:38:22.340
There's been a lot of allegations from people online that just see these, you know, the
00:38:26.540
video of him with the hookers and then they juxtapose that of him with his kids in the
00:38:31.060
And they're like, oh, you know, obviously this doesn't look good.
00:38:34.700
Listen, the picture of the kids in the jacuzzi, I didn't look at it like he did something
00:38:40.780
No, but at the minimum, he's exposing these children to concepts that are going to flavor
00:38:45.020
What I what I looked at, it was like, damn, he's got two young boys.
00:39:14.520
So we could actually have had his conversation straight through there through the years without
00:39:19.040
Wait, your phone is hooked up, hooked up to the roadcaster.
00:39:24.960
Listen, what I was saying about Greenwald is that is.
00:39:28.580
Yeah, I just saw a picture and I was like, he's got kids and then he's involved with his
00:39:33.260
I think what it what it is to me is like this is just a larger message about homosexuality
00:39:38.900
in general, where it's like even if they are on your side ideologically, which he was
00:39:44.200
also playing this stuff was like, well, what about Trump?
00:39:49.000
Like when you start when you're into this kind of really degenerate stuff, I it is.
00:39:53.040
It's hard for me to look at you were like, good work, dude.
00:39:56.800
But but hold on is is I mean, I'm not saying it's the same thing, but are you going to
00:40:00.800
say that that Trump sleeping with him and paying her hush money?
00:40:09.820
Well, he's married and he's also been divorced and remarried countless times.
00:40:14.060
There's also allegations of him with the Epstein stuff.
00:40:16.660
So it's like I'm just saying we we have as much evidence of his depravity other than
00:40:25.740
It's just it happens to be with a male as opposed to a female one.
00:40:29.380
So, Larry, day one of Bohemian Grove, we're talking about levels of sexual immorality,
00:40:44.460
It's in marriage with someone who's not your partner.
00:40:50.520
When we're talking about like what Glenn Greenwald is taking part of, where it's like
00:41:06.880
A couple of little ass homunculi running around.
00:41:10.460
It's again, I think I'm just being realistic about what it is.
00:41:14.680
Like we we get to see people doing a lot of different things.
00:41:18.140
But Milo has also nailed this stance where it's like, well, take a look at what this
00:41:23.460
He's also telling you like, this is pretty standard.
00:41:31.040
Oh, and and spitting on you and looking it up off the floor.
00:41:36.960
Can we at least like it's very hard for me to separate your work from this thing that
00:41:45.740
It's like you're writing like what kind of spiritual weird entities are inside of you
00:41:49.920
saying like, yeah, I got to wear the maid outfit.
00:41:54.300
I mean, there's so many there's so many artists in different different arenas from painters
00:41:59.520
to musicians to former politicians and, you know, warlords and people that have changed
00:42:04.700
the course of history that were absolute pieces of in their personal lives.
00:42:08.500
This is what we've discovered on Nephilim death squad.
00:42:16.360
Most of the things that he did, he says, I do not move unless the voice tells me to.
00:42:21.660
Dude had a disembodied voice that would literally guide him what to do.
00:42:32.420
Most of the artwork comes from things that they called muses.
00:42:40.180
She's doing this really cool like mandala looking artwork.
00:42:48.540
And she starts writing in what looks like ancient Enochian.
00:42:53.920
I'm standing next to this lady in front of a portrait of Zeus and like a.
00:43:20.000
The same thing that they use to call in aliens.
00:43:27.360
He's documenting people that are calling in aliens.
00:43:30.360
There's this function within the app that is a binaural beats function, which helps you
00:43:40.480
So for me, when I'm looking at artwork, that's inspired music.
00:43:47.160
I'm like, right now I am inspired by something to speak to you in this manner.
00:43:51.500
I'd like to believe that it's God and the Holy Spirit.
00:43:55.280
Even though, again, yes, we can get very dark about some of the things I say, but I say
00:43:58.640
these things in jest and I think they need to be said, but that's another conversation.
00:44:01.860
These people, I don't know what is flowing through them, but I see what's coming out of
00:44:09.180
So we'll see a lot of Glenn Greenwald's work, but then I'm seeing him behind the scenes.
00:44:14.020
I don't think you can really separate that type of a person from his work.
00:44:24.720
You're telling me that there's never been anybody who's done something good for the
00:44:30.560
Well, then how are you certain that that's not Glenn Greenwald, that his work is actually
00:44:36.200
good and it's driven by the better instincts of humanity and at home he's a lunatic?
00:44:41.120
I don't think you could really separate the two.
00:44:42.760
But you just said that there are examples, you're sure that there are examples of that
00:44:51.160
No, I think I do agree with Clint in the sense that God does use everybody, flawed individuals
00:45:03.720
I mean, libertarians, we already all knew it kind of in our gut.
00:45:07.520
But he informed everybody, the normies, that like, yeah, the government is spying on you
00:45:16.540
The entire NSA is functioning in an unconstitutionally legal and moral way.
00:45:25.020
And I'm not going to forget that just because you get spit on by black hookers.
00:45:38.880
Because you're, again, you're doing it based off of your own knowledge as opposed to what
00:45:43.380
impacted that have on the culture, what impacted that have on the voting populace.
00:45:47.040
And I would argue that in some ways, I mean, a lot of people give Ron Paul credit for the
00:45:54.000
I think Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald and Julian Assange, they all created that populace
00:46:00.380
energy that was like everybody ruling over us is a deceitful, lying, terrible, immoral
00:46:10.140
So I just think people are, they're, they're diminishing it at their own peril.
00:46:15.580
It's, I will say anecdotally that there's value in it, but I agree with Toppin that it's
00:46:20.380
I'm saying it because I assume there's value when you wake up these dumbasses, but they're
00:46:24.380
not telling me or any of us who are in this realm, anything that we already didn't know.
00:46:28.740
It's like, even with the Twitter files, when you revealed to us that the intelligence
00:46:32.560
agencies are in bed with these, you know, giant corporations and these social media companies,
00:46:36.740
it's like, you know, that was a big reveal for some people.
00:46:41.720
Honestly, basically what you guys are arguing right now is that what you have to say isn't
00:46:45.160
valuable because what you're doing is you're conveying a message that wakes up a lot of
00:46:49.700
So you're, this is just a totally self-defeating argument that because we already knew this,
00:46:56.420
I would say that it's a self-defeating argument if I set out to wake people up.
00:47:00.100
But even on Sam Tripoli's episode, I just said that I have no intention of waking people
00:47:05.040
You're watching me explore these concepts in real time for my own interests.
00:47:09.160
That's like, that's also being like Kurt with what, what he's doing there as well, because
00:47:13.160
I'd like to downplay it because I don't want this influence out there.
00:47:18.060
It, what I do, what I do because I want to see, I'm not, I'm not even saying whether or
00:47:29.800
Like what you're saying is, is objectively wrong, that, that there is no, there is no
00:47:38.940
And Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden and Julian Assange played a massive role in waking
00:47:43.260
up and red pilling millions, if not billions of people.
00:47:48.500
It also like, maybe let's ask some questions, some weird conspiratorial questions.
00:47:56.340
How come, how come you, you didn't go viral saying this.
00:48:00.780
Well, Edward Snowden reached out to him because of, I think his work at the intercept, I'd have
00:48:04.600
to go back and figure out all of the history, but he, he trusted him based off of some for
00:48:12.240
That was like very critical of the government and, and, um, privacy and like spying operations
00:48:17.780
So he needed to go to a journalist and he went to him.
00:48:25.660
I think that this information could have gotten out there just by, by just about anybody.
00:48:31.760
It's hard for me to separate, not just separate, but then like ignore the cultural push of what
00:48:38.140
he, cause it's, it's not just that he's doing this thing.
00:48:41.300
If you're doing this thing in private, I'm, I'm like just whatever, but it was, I know,
00:48:54.200
I'm not going to, but just like for real, like, this is what it is.
00:48:58.040
This is the, like what we saw, what you saw in those videos, what you saw in those pictures.
00:49:22.080
Ladies and gentlemen, you got to see the, uh, inside track as we, uh, negotiated our fate.
00:49:31.700
I didn't want to, I'm like, let me, I haven't even introduced myself to the guy.
00:49:34.220
I'm not going to pipe up and freak him out that I'm also here.
00:49:36.680
I mean, I I've had very lengthy conversations with him.
00:49:41.660
The reason I wanted to talk is because, um, you know, he knows that this is, this involves
00:49:47.040
And, and I moved out here for this and he knew exactly where I was coming from.
00:49:50.660
And it's like, Hey, if you, if this isn't a fit, then it's not a fit, but you said it
00:50:00.080
Just based off of that, the whole soft mayor conversation and everything.
00:50:02.940
It sounds like it, it's him making a call and, uh, I don't know.
00:50:10.820
I just want to know who it is so I can actually get an answer.
00:50:13.520
Cause I don't do this diffusion of responsibility where you just pass the buck to, Oh, it's
00:50:21.280
Like, and this is what I've been telling you as, as like dealing the dealings with him.
00:50:28.020
Even the people underneath you, the comic book store, I was like, I'm bringing people here.
00:50:34.560
And I was like, is this a long ideological lines?
00:50:37.680
Cause if I would have, if I'm in charge of that venue or own this town, my, well, what I would
00:50:42.660
say to you is like, I'm not going to allow you to shut up.
00:50:44.480
Like I'll do whatever you want, do whatever you want here.
00:50:46.820
You know, like, that's like really what I, what I feel like, unless you're having, you
00:50:52.100
I said it didn't bode well when we knocked on the door and, uh, you know, some sort of
00:50:55.960
young chick with green hair opened the door and said, one second, please.
00:50:58.860
And I said, Ooh, and then I, you know, I'm not going to lie to you.
00:51:01.660
I, I, I know when the message was passed along right after that, she kept trying to be
00:51:07.240
But, and I, you know, I, I, that's not to say that she had any nefarious purpose in
00:51:10.900
it, but it does strike me as like, Oh, she wants to know, she wants to know if this, if
00:51:15.100
these bad guys got canceled, if these anti-Semites got canceled, if these racists got canceled,
00:51:20.460
But I didn't catch that energy at all, but I'll take your word for it.
00:51:31.180
No, I'm not going to stream for an hour, but, uh, you know, at least we'll know by the end
00:51:38.860
I guess we should stick around because if he says in an hour, look, go talk to the guy,
00:51:46.600
I mean, no, he could, uh, I think he could do very well with the phone call.
00:51:52.240
I'm supposed to bend over backwards because you're doing them here.
00:51:55.720
No, just a phone call should be more than enough.
00:52:08.940
It's just because of the ADL article, because, you know, if you, if you look at what we're
00:52:15.660
No, that's not, that's not, not the content of this event.
00:52:19.860
And, uh, but I'm also not going to limit what we talk about.
00:52:25.420
If we're told you can do this, but you can't say X, Y, and Z.
00:52:28.880
Like if, if right before the event happens, uh, Israel goes to war with Iran, like you
00:52:43.540
There's, there's comedic angles that, that like, I'm not going to cut myself off from any
00:52:48.820
I'm not going to have any of our performers come on stage and I'm going to go, Hey, just
00:52:56.300
I'm not going to end up talking about anything that I wouldn't naturally talk about, but I'm
00:53:01.340
What if Israel drops a nuke and we're like, Oh, can't say anything.
00:53:07.760
It would actually be funnier to not say anything.
00:53:28.640
So yeah, if you guys want to see me June 11th through the 14th, Freedom Fest in Palm Springs.
00:53:42.000
They're pretty safe, which is why I rarely get invited.
00:53:45.480
But yeah, I'll be doing a panel with Brett Weinstein and Angela McArdle on Saturday.
00:53:49.220
So that will be the big, big thing for me being there.
00:53:52.820
But other than that, I'll just be manning the Mises-Caugus table most likely.