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00:01:00.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:01:26.060 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.

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00:02:34.860 oh mother horse size remember the breakdown that we did on that i yeah that was a riveting

00:02:39.000 breakdown honestly i've been wanting to listen to the whole series again um toplobs.com for all

00:02:44.080 your merchandise great guest today and it's also a great day to have a great guest because so many

00:02:49.160 fantastic things are happening guys i'd like to welcome back to the show tommy

00:02:52.680 column of the let's get freaky podcast uh tommy before we go any further let's talk about

00:02:57.740 what it is you do and where people can find your work thank you very much for having me back guys

00:03:03.120 i am pumped your intro gets me going man i don't know what it is i'm ready to go to battle for you

00:03:07.900 guys now let's go so i've got a show it's called let's get freaky we dive into all the the freaky

00:03:16.360 topics that you can imagine ghosts cryptids ufos a little bit of conspiracy as well um i get some

00:03:22.580 cool guests on that normally share their experiences and their work within the paranormal

00:03:26.280 and the supernatural and yeah we get freaky man what can i say jim carrey did you see that on the

00:03:32.760 weekend yeah he was wearing my merch on the weekend i couldn't believe it

00:03:35.880 unbelievable yeah yeah what did you think about the jim carrey thing because it looks like right

00:03:43.880 now it's uh it was a promo and and so you know hats off to all of the conspiracy theorists who

00:03:50.180 who didn't buy it when we saw him who didn't think that it was uh you know that there was something

00:03:55.140 wrong but i think they definitely have done that in the past with with yeah i think i think biden

00:04:01.300 was definitely one of those you know yeah i think that's fair to say but i know i don't want to i

00:04:07.380 don't want to detract from uh what we're doing here but can i show you guys a video please

00:04:12.100 okay this is uh did i did i upload i think i uploaded to our instagram but it's probably the

00:04:18.500 the greatest video i've ever seen now that's because we we don't talk about biden anymore

00:04:21.680 and i was talking to my wife i was like my wife to my wife i said hey um this was not that long

00:04:27.480 ago but we had a president too and actually i'd prefer that president at this point i prefer that

00:04:31.860 the good old days well you know when you're detached when you put some space between you

00:04:35.860 and an event that event becomes a little bit more endearing you got to watch oh i haven't seen this

00:04:40.200 i've seen it making the rounds okay uh how do i play the sound there it is okay um super something

00:04:47.840 super salad super saiyan yeah yeah the super saiyan thing raisin sun what is it great got it

00:04:54.960 super saiyan

00:04:55.800 i'm gonna attract all seven of them with this here dragon radar then i'm gonna uh you put them

00:05:04.080 together and you get uh a big orange fella right he gives you a coupon joe no no it's a wish yeah

00:05:10.460 you get a wish and i'm gonna i'll uh gonna wish for something joe what are you gonna do out there 0.94

00:05:14.040 tonight i'm going to hit him with my my uh the big purple thing the uh gallic gallic gun yeah 0.98

00:05:21.640 the garlic gun the blast him right yeah like gallic gunk you know what i'm talking about joe 0.98

00:05:28.440 what's the plan out there i'm gonna use the fingers you know they're gonna charge up my uh

00:05:33.560 my special uh bean cam something what's it called again you know the one special bean cannon yeah

00:05:39.720 that's it my spectacle being camel oh my god i'm like i just said yo we're done we're done with ai

00:05:47.960 god bless ai is right dude i feel like i i've never felt more uh joy yeah right i don't think

00:05:59.640 i shut my mouth for that entire it was just hanging open that was fantastic dude i know

00:06:05.400 that's crazy it should be disheartening but like the apocalypse is going to be so cool

00:06:11.060 that's the thing though we don't know what's real like if you would have showed me this a

00:06:15.940 few years ago i'd be like damn that's crazy that he did that 0.52

00:06:19.000 you were saying tommy that you know this is uh uh this whole mask deal and the fact that 0.71

00:06:34.740 obviously you know biden was uh i think it's pretty obvious that he was wearing a mask all

00:06:39.580 throughout that he was dead the entire time we had one seven feet tall like i like that i liked

00:06:45.980 i dude i gotta admit i like doing that to us i like that they go pull out the seven foot tall

00:06:53.000 joe biden and and roll him out on tommy you're in the uk how do you feel about

00:06:57.500 politics yeah i'm screwed i might have to escape the uk and come and work in your 0.99

00:07:04.480 cafe if that's okay is that okay i think we have room i wouldn't love that shit you want to come 0.99

00:07:09.300 here it's getting wild in the uk obviously with the free speech stuff and yeah that's true yeah 0.98

00:07:17.360 what's going on you guys aren't allowed to say slurs or else uh anything can't even share me

00:07:22.340 imprisoned i mean i do and i've not been caught yet but apparently there were 12 000 people last

00:07:28.880 year got arrested for tweeting you know whoa a lot of people man and it's not just tweets where

00:07:35.620 it's like you're making threats towards people or you know you're trying to create violence which

00:07:40.500 you can kind of maybe understand a little bit but it's opinions people are getting arrested for

00:07:45.240 opinions you know on immigration and things like that which is you know obviously it's a touchy

00:07:50.120 subject but you should be able to tweet what you want to tweet about it i think that's ridiculous

00:07:54.100 that people are arrested for opinions and that's been happening man well you guys are getting

00:07:58.780 stabbed aren't you yeah i mean knife crime is terrible you know especially in london where i'm

00:08:04.120 originally from that's the knife crime is is you know it's terror that's why one of the reasons

00:08:10.060 why i left london to be honest well i wanted to get my family away from that it happens everywhere

00:08:14.560 unfortunately but yeah knife crime's terrible it's it's not a good time for the uk you know

00:08:19.840 We've got a prime minister.

00:08:20.980 Don't want to go too deep.

00:08:22.160 I mean, we've got a prime minister.

00:08:25.340 I was just saying, I don't want to watch his door get kicked in and him get dragged.

00:08:28.260 Yeah, I might get arrested.

00:08:29.380 I might get pulled out midstream.

00:08:31.600 But we've got a prime minister that seems to hate its people, you know, is the best way to put it.

00:08:37.620 And there's no other ways.

00:08:38.420 But it's not even a left or right thing anymore, you know, because most people that you talk to will agree.

00:08:43.460 We've got a prime minister that is acting very strange and it doesn't seem to be in the best interest of its people.

00:08:49.840 It's very worried, man. I mean, it's any such cases. It's a situation globally. Right.

00:08:55.960 I mean, you would imagine it almost looks as though in all first world countries, the name of the game is there's a there's a blueprint.

00:09:05.260 Everybody seems to be following it. It's a civil unrest, unmitigated immigration, you know, clamping down on freedom of speech and all these things, you know, in their end goal. 0.97

00:09:17.300 i guess if you're looking at it through the alex jones uh lens is is a new world order right where

00:09:23.180 where these systems you put them under enough pressure they basically implode they self-destruct

00:09:28.420 the people facilitate a lot of the own uh uh you know destruction against themselves we saw that

00:09:33.440 here in the states in black lives matter where you piss people off enough and you give them 0.97

00:09:38.040 pallets of bricks and you you know you kind of give them the shove that they need and they'll 0.76

00:09:42.180 go out and they'll burn their own cities to the ground well they're they're also doing it here

00:09:45.620 in america too it's just i'm like man like i i kind of hope i'm like yeah i hope tommy does

00:09:49.740 make it to america and and do his thing but what number one what a tragedy because like that's

00:09:54.920 your homeland it sucks yeah you got to leave like i had to leave my homeland of new york because it 0.89

00:09:59.440 was just getting that horrible uh i think i traded up but still like like there's an aspect of like 0.99

00:10:04.780 i left all the things all my family all my you know my childhood it's like that's bullshit but 0.83

00:10:10.420 yeah i had no choice um but but in america it's it's it's really turning out to be like no

00:10:15.200 different i just feel like we're the last ones so you've got canada that kind of already that

00:10:20.500 happened to and that's right next door right i mean that's a little bit you guys south america

00:10:24.860 uh we're setting the precedent that we can just go there take your president and we did it in iran

00:10:29.520 too um but over here with the latest thing with uh with israel yeah i went viral a couple of times

00:10:37.020 accidentally on twitter and then i saw a couple days later that if you google trend search your

00:10:42.980 name your name not top lobster my full name it will come up and uh you can see which countries

00:10:49.760 have searched it oh really yeah i guess which country searched my name no way saudi arabia

00:10:57.020 not saudi arabia well yeah that's fascinating but that's the thousands of cases thousands

00:11:07.720 anybody who's speaking against what was happening there specifically from the angle that i was

00:11:12.320 yeah they're like looking at your name so i'm like okay it's it there's a very short amount

00:11:16.900 of time until whatever they're gonna do they're gonna do so well yeah for now we're here for now

00:11:25.000 well now we're in florida exactly okay thank god i need one of those better i just i just bought a

00:11:33.020 new gun case last night and i and i i finished you know organizing all my stuff and i said man

00:11:37.940 thank god that uh that we live in florida well look i mean as far as what they're going to do

00:11:43.220 and where this all leads we might have a little bit of an indicator this episode is brought to

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00:12:31.100 to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it this dropped yesterday oh i can't add

00:12:37.200 it to stage i gotta remove other media um so this is from the uh twitter page dissident media says

00:12:45.240 a complaint received these guys rule yeah yeah they crush so um a complaint received by the

00:12:49.420 military religious freedom foundation alongside others from 40 different units across 30

00:12:54.480 installations which claims that military leaders are briefing their troops that donald trump is

00:13:00.280 commanded by god to strike iran in order to expedite armageddon and you know this goes into

00:13:07.240 something that i i i want to ask you after we read this tommy on the topic of uh fabricated

00:13:12.400 prophecy but this is from uh active duty military nco and mrff clients email address withheld right

00:13:20.740 so they they uh you know remove that and i don't claim to know what any of those letters mean

00:13:26.600 uh on the subject of unit combat readiness briefing and armageddon this was just on march 2nd

00:13:33.700 just on march 2nd what's today today's the fourth this was two days ago um so this morning our

00:13:40.660 commander opened up and by the way i posted this in the patreon last night and the patreon was like

00:13:45.320 what what is like what is this um this morning our commander opened up the combat readiness

00:13:52.780 status briefing by urging us not to be afraid fascinating be not afraid you're not you're not

00:13:58.660 uh as to what is happening with our combat operations in iran right now he urged us to

00:14:03.960 tell our troops that this was quote all part of god's divine plan i mean you know i don't

00:14:09.640 God uses all things. So I'm not saying that is inaccurate. Right. And he specifically referenced

00:14:17.240 numerous citations about the book of Revelation referring to Armageddon and the imminent return

00:14:23.400 of Jesus Christ. He said that, quote, President Trump has been anointed by Jesus to light the

00:14:29.920 signal fire in iran to cause to cause to cause armageddon and mark his return to earth he had

00:14:39.780 a big grin on his face when he said all of this which made his message seem even more crazy our

00:14:45.200 commander would probably be described as quote christian first a christian first uh supporter

00:14:51.000 he has been this way for a very long time and makes it clear that he desires all of us under

00:14:55.800 him to become just like him as a christian uh but what he did this morning was so toxic i gotta 0.95

00:15:02.520 admit that's that's a gay gay thing to say it was very toxic to to talk about armageddon um it's 0.96

00:15:08.620 funny like the angle that they take is like i just don't want to be christian yeah forget about 0.53

00:15:12.040 armageddon exactly um and over the line that it shocked many of us in attendance at the ops

00:15:20.160 readiness briefing besides myself i am reaching out to the mrff on behalf of 15 fellow troops i

00:15:26.040 know you would ask me about the religious views of our group who has request requested help from

00:15:30.440 the mrff i can only tell you that i am christian and at least 10 of the others are also christian

00:15:36.400 uh one of the others is jewish and one is muslim i don't know the religious or non-religious status

00:15:43.280 of the other three at this time so uh seems pretty real uh you know all things can be fabricated at

00:15:49.820 this moment you know it's not hard we watched ai make joe biden say some really awesome things at

00:15:55.080 the top of this show certainly not hard to fabricate in email um but it also does not seem

00:16:02.680 outlandish what do you what do you what do you think about that tommy well didn't they prophesize

00:16:07.000 that this would be the last war was hasn't that that's been prophesized i mean if that's if that

00:16:13.840 is a true legit email this that is wild and we are we are gonna have some wild times i know

00:16:19.780 it's getting crazier by the day but we have got some real wild times coming um it's it's kind of

00:16:26.100 scary but i mean what are you guys thinking what are your thoughts on on on what is coming in the

00:16:32.520 next the next day i mean it's hard i don't know what to believe anymore like the little baron

00:16:38.960 trump books and uh the last president the 1900 kind of thing yeah it makes me think about a lot

00:16:45.380 of donnie dark and stuff about him being the antichrist yeah or donnie darko yeah um donnie

00:16:51.080 uh awakened whatever you're talking about the black uh discern donnie discern that's right 0.98

00:16:56.280 yeah yeah the black uh he he pointed out a lot of those things yeah and and um you know there

00:17:03.440 was a lot of talk about the antichrist uh adjacent kind of i don't know what you would call them

00:17:12.600 I mean, it's hard to call them coincidences anymore at this point.

00:17:17.220 There are more than just, you know, the prophetic words in the Bible that point to, you know, this kind of era and this sort of war.

00:17:27.760 We have a lot of New Age thought leaders who are pointing to this.

00:17:31.100 more interestingly to me lately at least is the prophetic words of like the lady that chris

00:17:37.800 bledsoe has been communicating with who says that after uh a skirmish with iran and israel

00:17:44.720 that these orbs were going to come out of the ocean and they were going to show themselves to

00:17:49.000 us and they were going to stop you know this this whole thing which if you're looking at the ufo

00:17:54.040 phenomenon for a while i've speculated that that was going to be the the hero story well doesn't

00:18:00.440 doesn't all this give you pause like whenever you get so we got a lot of confirmation with the

00:18:05.820 epstein files about all the things that we've been saying and we had to go back and kind of 0.96

00:18:09.920 like research and verify make sure that and and it very well could be a lot of bullshit like a lot 0.92

00:18:15.760 of it could just be you know adding fuel to the fire for us but for uh like boomer zionists 0.98

00:18:21.900 they're being validated at a level that is indescribable yeah with this especially with

00:18:29.260 an email like this so like they have already been painting trump as like this jesus messiah figure

00:18:34.700 yep they're getting all that and now i gotta sit back and look and go was i wrong like was i wrong

00:18:42.340 about um trump's place and was i am i wrong about israel and their actions uh i don't think i am

00:18:51.920 but i'm gonna give it a second look right because it's like all that stuff is pointing in that

00:18:57.120 direction but all the people that are behind this movement that are like you know very uh

00:19:03.740 pro-trump yeah and uh not just israel can do no wrong but like yeah it's fine that they're doing

00:19:09.440 these things i look at them and you look at their rhetoric like i don't know timothy alberino about

00:19:13.680 like ufos and how he's i think he's getting that completely wrong yeah about demons aliens the

00:19:19.600 nature of these things so i'm like okay let's just extrapolate that down the line what else

00:19:23.340 are you wrong about and and and it's very clear that within this war thing and this israel thing

00:19:28.180 the alien thing is going to be uh it's it's in lockstep with it it's like step one war step two

00:19:33.540 alien intervention step three uh alien savior figures you know what i mean and so i don't know

00:19:40.600 i mean well tommy let me ask you this it does appear that there is a real effort to manufacture

00:19:47.580 prophecy just looking at that alone i mean if if you want to believe that he's anointed by jesus

00:19:52.380 christ to light the signal fires in iran as it was put um that's one thing if you suspect he wasn't

00:19:59.920 anointed by christ and and once you remove that element it becomes okay so now you're trying to

00:20:05.940 push prophecy you're trying to fulfill prophecy um what are your thoughts on that the idea of

00:20:11.620 trying to make prophecy happen do you think people can do that um do you think that you

00:20:17.060 can force god's hand where do you fall on that i don't think you can i mean it's so hard to tell

00:20:24.760 i mean i really don't know what to believe anymore guys i'm in that situation i don't know what to

00:20:29.640 believe um is this all a part of god's plan you know it's all leading us towards you know i don't

00:20:37.380 know it's it's such a tough one i mean we had the epstein files drop very recently like that did you

00:20:44.480 You know, we, us guys have known about the Epstein files for years and it's been talked about on conspiracy podcasts for years and things like that.

00:20:51.840 And the information has largely been out there already, even though we're getting confirmation now.

00:20:56.520 Some of it's getting even darker and worse.

00:20:58.600 You know, we're seeing that some of it, as you said, might not be true.

00:21:01.820 But, you know, as soon as the Epstein stuff got, I think you guys even tweeted, as soon as that dropped, we were going to start seeing the wars.

00:21:09.180 We were going to start seeing the alien talk again in the mainstream.

00:21:11.720 yeah i actually have that pulled up right here let's pull this up on the screen so um you know

00:21:18.960 the audience is very familiar with this but i'm gonna go ahead and say it again yeah i am i'm

00:21:23.040 taking a little bit of a victory lap so so uh i i always looked at this as a script and i always

00:21:27.260 said that the epstein files would drop uh once they're ready for the next scene it's a plot

00:21:31.640 device and after it happened i said after the release of these files i'm keeping an eye out

00:21:34.900 for these three things economic collapse alien disclosure and israel versus iran and obviously

00:21:40.720 we have our uh alien disclosure this was by the way for for uh not just yet but like very soft

00:21:47.340 but harder disclosure than ever oh yeah harder disclosure than ever seems like it's right on the

00:21:51.000 horizon um and then you know we have our israel versus iran this happened yesterday disclose tv

00:21:57.280 just in u.s banks on high alert for cyber attacks after u.s intelligence assessment warns of iranian

00:22:03.920 attacks as war escalates this is from rooters so we have even the third element our threat on our 0.98

00:22:10.640 financial system i will say though that's that's a threat on like a financial system and you could

00:22:16.160 hurt it but the financial collapse that is primed for any time they feel like it hell yeah it's like

00:22:22.340 they just want to hit that button the way we've set up our economy at this point yeah no i think

00:22:28.500 you're 100 right about that the way we've set it up is for um the most opportunistic moment to just

00:22:34.960 drop it into its own footprint there was a there was a fascinating uh point when doge was going

00:22:41.300 through the governmental system and i don't know if you guys remember this but they all realized

00:22:46.500 that the entire financial system was like at this uh bottleneck at the very bottom and it's this

00:22:52.400 ancient it's like this ancient computer system that was uh every every loan every every dollar

00:22:59.320 in and out that needs to be approved by the government it has to go through this specific

00:23:04.280 type of old code i forget the name of it and there are like a handful of people that know how to do

00:23:08.840 it it's like speaking ancient enochian yeah yeah and this is how our monetary system works like as

00:23:14.100 far as like the the federal trillions of dollars that's being passed back and forth every day

00:23:18.660 there's a tiny bottleneck that just a couple of people handle this and um not grok what's their

00:23:25.260 name uh doge found it the people in doge and elon musk threatened it he's like all you have to do is

00:23:30.760 grab this and this whole thing stops that's crazy then that article went away and i'm like oh but

00:23:36.700 like yeah everybody's felt that like we are on stilts yeah and that is the i think that's one

00:23:42.000 of the things that you can just take and remove and this whole thing falls down but there are 0.99

00:23:45.600 many pieces to this that you can just remove it and it'll fall down because it's a shit house and 0.90

00:23:50.040 i think that they intend to remove those pieces but first it was like all right let's give the 0.91

00:23:54.620 people some epstein files let's let's you know we got a little clinton deposition maybe we could

00:23:58.980 actually watch some of that with tommy today we had a internet issue yesterday and couldn't play

00:24:03.040 the videos but um it feels like it's a great you know apocalypse means uh unveiling right

00:24:09.720 revealing or something to that effect so you pull back the veil you let people see this they freak

00:24:14.340 out and then everything collapse after they pull it well as as the apocalypse is unveiling have you

00:24:20.260 because your your podcast focuses a lot on the the testimony of people that are seeing a lot of

00:24:24.700 crazy stuff yeah we're gonna be seeing more crazy stuff have you absolutely you've been hearing more

00:24:30.140 these stories yeah i don't know if people are just more willing to open up about this kind of stuff

00:24:35.160 because the world is getting so crazy you know a lot of people are turning to religions which is

00:24:40.240 great um but i i have noticed an uptick this episode is brought to you by spreaker the platform

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00:25:29.560 talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it uh of people getting in touch wanting

00:25:35.340 to share experiences which is which is great for my podcast because what it's all about um but i

00:25:39.920 think your average person has had some sort of experience um yeah it's very rare to meet someone

00:25:46.520 that hasn't experienced anything you know even the people that say i don't believe in this kind

00:25:49.660 of stuff they've normally had some world experience and you're like how can you not believe it you've

00:25:54.160 seen whatever you've seen um i i think we're going to see an uptick i think as people become more

00:26:00.700 open to the the wildness of this world i think it opens you up to to everything and you're going to

00:26:07.820 start there's there's a lot more going on around us that we can't see you know that is that is for

00:26:13.600 sure you know we are in a spiritual world and and we're getting i think it's something to do with

00:26:18.580 being more open to it is when you start experiencing it.

00:26:21.940 I mean, I've, I've certainly, when I started,

00:26:24.700 I've, I've experienced quite a lot of weird stuff around my life,

00:26:27.020 which is probably why I do the show that I do.

00:26:29.240 But I have noticed myself upticks of activity that,

00:26:34.300 cause I try and debunk stuff, you know, now, you know,

00:26:37.000 cause I get very excited about the paranormal cause I do a show about

00:26:39.540 paranormal. So I'm like, Oh, that's wild.

00:26:41.800 I try and be a little bit more skeptical, you know,

00:26:44.260 as I'm getting more into this, I try cause there's a lot of crazy stuff.

00:26:47.540 It's not all true. Right.

00:26:48.580 uh but even i've noticed i've noticed i know it's upsticks i know it's like

00:26:52.620 i call them like spiritual attacks moments of waves where it's like for a couple of months

00:26:57.280 the family's experiencing stuff the wife's having weird dreams you know and that that that is that

00:27:03.600 is real you know that that happens we're definitely under uh spiritual attack and and and i don't know

00:27:10.400 if that makes sense we're we're in it we're in a a moment where things are opening up when a vow

00:27:15.700 it seems to be opening to a lot of people yeah i've been seeing these posts in in my area i don't

00:27:22.580 know what to make of it because it actually has reached um some family that's back you know closer

00:27:29.920 to tampa oh and and i was surprised because i know i follow some you mean the show or no spiritual

00:27:36.900 attack no no no um these stories these stories on separate from us yeah in particular on facebook

00:27:43.560 And I saw them because I followed, like, these groups.

00:27:46.240 I want to see who's talking about, like, Dogman and Cryptids and stuff.

00:27:49.360 And that's actually what Facebook is pretty good for.

00:27:53.640 I'd actually like to share some contacts with Tommy after,

00:27:57.220 because I do want to get a little bit more of that kind of testimony on the show.

00:28:01.280 Yeah, I would love to.

00:28:03.180 That's what I want to delve into more.

00:28:05.140 Because, like, our show kind of went in a slightly different direction.

00:28:08.740 But I'm interested in that as well.

00:28:10.120 Well, you know what happens?

00:28:10.760 it's like when you when you do happen to contact someone who's had an experience there's a huge

00:28:16.880 overlap between experiencers and people that are I don't want to call them crazy right because

00:28:21.660 well we seem crazy but it's like beyond eccentric there's a certain type of personality that when

00:28:29.620 you see it the things that it types to you you go I don't know if I can do this I don't know if this

00:28:33.880 is a smart door to open so but anywho on this Facebook community what I was seeing for a while

00:28:39.280 was like these posts about uh winged humanoid creatures back in in my old neck of the woods

00:28:45.700 pasco county and i said oh that's fantastic but i couldn't find anything on it beyond like the

00:28:51.180 mentions and so i just left it alone and i would notice every time i got on facebook it was mounting

00:28:55.240 there was more and more and more and i'm going that's weird but i follow all these groups all

00:28:58.520 of a sudden it starts getting sent to me by other people family members and friends back from that

00:29:03.040 area and i'm going well how the hell are you guys seeing this because this is maybe my algorithms

00:29:08.920 is affecting their algorithm i don't post about it i don't like it i don't share it i don't do

00:29:12.160 any of that stuff but you know this there's that one author in particular who's like tackling these

00:29:18.380 things and he's writing about it and he's saying like these things are on a big upswing and i know

00:29:23.320 for us when you look into it you know i think there's a real thing within this realm let's say

00:29:30.000 this demonic realm um it operates best when you don't suspect that it's there don't we have a guy

00:29:35.500 coming on sorry to interrupt i i think i saw a booking of a guy recently that discusses this

00:29:41.660 stuff oh really uh well yeah i didn't we handle our own booking so i don't know like we don't know

00:29:47.640 jeff jeff finnup uh you know what the problem is people go by one name on a on a thing or a show

00:29:54.860 name and then they put their actual legal name and you're like i don't know who the hell this 0.50

00:29:58.460 is fantastic but maybe i should have done that i've put my real name out yeah well you could

00:30:02.720 have gone by a pseudonym or something don't worry israel knows anyway there's no way around it

00:30:07.640 um but when you look into the phenomenon it doesn't like that and i think it tends to it'll

00:30:15.080 do a number of things either it'll recede or it'll go on the attack to to um dissuade you i i want to

00:30:22.560 get into your stories and your experiences and and also these uh ufo experiences you talked about

00:30:27.360 i'm going to share a quick story with the audience because they've been following for these last

00:30:31.320 couple of days we've been talking about just the strange things you and i tommy before the show

00:30:36.320 started talked about the clip from uh the heidi love episode and that weird noise that popped up

00:30:42.400 and you know whether or not it's a it's a relic an audio relic of some sort or if it's something

00:30:47.480 else it does have this feminine sound to it it sounds like a woman breathing and whispering 1.00

00:30:53.560 very strange but um also the episode yesterday um we do a thing we're about to do it now

00:31:00.400 where this is a 30 minute preview

00:31:02.220 and then we end the episode to

00:31:04.340 the general public but it stays on Patreon

00:31:06.240 on Rumble I ended

00:31:08.460 the episode and it's completely random

00:31:10.200 like we don't really pick a time but I'm like

00:31:12.460 okay I kick everybody out

00:31:13.700 33 minutes 33 seconds on the third day of the year

00:31:16.700 the third month of the year with a blood moon

00:31:18.520 that appeared at 3.33 a.m.

00:31:20.960 what

00:31:21.360 I mean you want yeah I'll show it to you

00:31:24.640 yeah that's weird I'll give you that one

00:31:26.160 I was just like

00:31:26.660 you posted that and I was like I'm gonna ignore that

00:31:29.780 Yeah, I'm going to just ignore it.

00:31:30.740 I'm just not going to look at that.

00:31:31.960 I said everything is going to plan is what I said.

00:31:36.520 Everything is going according to plan.

00:31:37.380 But yeah, there's no way I could time that exactly because I go through a list of all the places we're streaming to.

00:31:43.660 And when you hit end stream, it takes a couple of seconds anyway.

00:31:46.700 It takes a couple of seconds.

00:31:47.280 There's no way to predict like when it's finally going to end.

00:31:49.640 But it's just like, all right, that happened.

00:31:51.520 All right, I see that.

00:31:52.420 Well, so last night, my wife, my wife, she has a...

00:31:58.420 There it is, man.

00:31:59.640 you're killing it with the buttons that I do uh and and she sorry sorry no now you now see I

00:32:05.680 should have never paid you a compliment so she she shares it with me this morning that she has

00:32:08.720 this dream and she says that she's back in her old apartment that she grew up in I'm like okay

00:32:14.260 number one that's weird because I think these things within this dreamscape they'll drag you

00:32:18.420 into familiar locations that are emotionally um significant to you so she's back in her old

00:32:25.780 apartment and she's married to another guy oh and and and but but she still has a you know our son 0.96

00:32:33.500 whore and i was very upset i was like you were what you were what i struck her but only once 1.00

00:32:39.960 and and she goes um and there was an intruder in the house in the night and this guy refused to 0.92

00:32:47.640 like do anything about it he was too scared or whatever so she gets up and she goes to uh i get

00:32:55.700 our son's room and and she goes like you know come come with us it's okay like everything's

00:33:01.540 going to be okay there's somebody in the house just like stay stay hidden and then she goes back

00:33:06.240 to the bedroom and she sees this guy he's hiding under a blanket and she's like what are you doing

00:33:12.880 like there's somebody in the house what are you doing and all of a sudden she realizes his entire

00:33:17.780 chest is ripped open oh and she hears something under the bed and so she has her gun in the dream

00:33:24.340 so she's aiming her gun at the bed and she's like come out come out from under the bed whoever you 1.00

00:33:29.420 are like come out right now and what comes out is some nephilimized version of my son

00:33:38.220 oh he's unbelievably tall with a giant head long lanky arms long and a horrifying smile

00:33:47.900 and the face is kind of twisted and um and she's having like all of these uh mixed emotions because

00:33:55.180 she wants to kill it but it has the face of our son and but like the long twisted smile the lanky

00:34:02.420 body hunched over because it was so tall how many times have we heard that dude yeah how many times

00:34:08.600 have we heard that like a mimic thing like that reminds me of a very particular merkle episode

00:34:13.240 where some woman thought that it was her grandmother visiting her in her dreams uh and

00:34:18.500 then eventually the relationship goes awry and grandma is long fingers long disgusting smile 1.00

00:34:24.960 and i said like i don't think that um our son is he was sharing stories with his friend a while

00:34:32.280 back when he had a sleepover and his friend is seems like this young tortured kid who has all

00:34:36.800 these horrifying experiences um but my son says yeah i've had some experiences when i was real

00:34:42.320 little but then my dad came in my room and he prayed and he prayed over the house and it never

00:34:46.640 happened again since then and i think like we really did a great job of like locking in whatever

00:34:51.160 happened to my son um cutting it off that generational iniquity i think we've done a

00:34:55.480 really good job of like creating this sanctuary i think the house is protected but i think my

00:34:59.440 wife has this you know her grandmother was the local witch in peru and that house that she's 0.67

00:35:06.780 talking about was the same place where i saw that entity that she saw and then my son saw

00:35:11.980 so there's something that like wants to get access to her pull her back there it's right yeah it

00:35:18.140 tries to and it tries to present itself as like you know our son to kind of torture her and fill

00:35:22.920 her with fear but it's like man i'm in the closet yesterday and i'm i'm looking around for like

00:35:29.600 stuff that i want to put into my new gun case and something falls off the shelf this episode is

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00:36:19.660 you're going to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it and it's like on the 0.98

00:36:24.400 other side of the closet away from me and i'm like what the fuck is going on man like something 0.98

00:36:29.080 it feels like something's trying but i'm not afraid you know my wife's not afraid my son's 0.98

00:36:33.660 not afraid um i don't think these things have any power they need you to be afraid they need a

00:36:37.680 parasitic relationship with you they need to operate in this sneaky way where they they try

00:36:41.960 to scare you in this dream realm if they can't scare you then they'll stress you out um they'll

00:36:46.420 give you angry dreams or sad dreams anything to just loose off of it they want fear ultimately

00:36:51.420 they want worship but they want fear and they'll take fear primarily but they'll take like anger

00:36:57.240 and sadness if they can get it if they can't get the fear out of you and so yeah man i don't know

00:37:01.500 if it's a matter of the thinning of the veil i don't know if it's a matter of railing against

00:37:05.460 these things on a platform like this and having these conversations um you know these past couple

00:37:10.980 of days have been real rough with the uh the sort of the technology aspects we're talking to nathaniel

00:37:15.160 gillis and and he has a coughing fit he can't continue the show anymore it just feels like

00:37:20.160 right crazy and they probably you know what it is they probably have after the heidi love

00:37:25.120 interference directly after so the next episode 20 minutes after i'm suspecting they probably have

00:37:30.860 a little bit of extra energy what with a full moon and nathaniel gillis it wasn't a coughing fit

00:37:38.160 he told us a story about the guy that got picked up against the wall and they could see a glowing

00:37:43.240 hand imprint on his neck nathaniel gillis drank something and then it looked like something was

00:37:48.860 choking him like i'm i'm aware of like when when somebody's choking on something his eyes are

00:37:55.620 watering yeah and and now like you know you're like a podcast dude so i don't know if this ever

00:38:02.000 happened to you this is the first time it's happened to me but we're like okay this interview

00:38:05.860 is going great and he's got more to say but i'm looking at a dude that's now struggling with a

00:38:10.760 like a health issue or something wrong and he's on i don't know where he's at uh but not here in

00:38:16.700 the room with me so i'm like how do we bring this in for a landing how do we like smooth this it was

00:38:21.460 something it was hard it was hard oh man yeah dude yeah it was it's been weird stuff going on

00:38:29.060 in the shop like i said i think it's i think it has to do a lot with not only the way the world

00:38:34.000 is going but specifically like these things gain a bit of energy on full moons and we had this

00:38:41.360 additional layer it's a blood moon it happens at this occultic number that you know my understanding

00:38:47.580 of the whole 33 thing is it is a mockery of of christ and so um you know all these things line

00:38:55.880 up and i think they just got a little extra juice but it's still you know i think people shouldn't

00:38:59.860 be afraid you should be heartened in the idea of like look what it takes for them to do what

00:39:03.740 drop a thing off a shelf give you a spooky dream all they want is for you to be afraid and that's

00:39:09.540 the only thing they can work with so we should we have to let tommy talk i know i'm sorry

00:39:13.080 this is fascinating

00:39:15.540 sorry man

00:39:17.740 yeah yes we should have went on his show to tell him

00:39:20.500 you guys are going to come on

00:39:22.600 I need to get you guys on this get freaky as well

00:39:24.360 I would love to be yes yes 100%

00:39:26.340 but leading up to all this stuff

00:39:28.560 we've just been getting

00:39:30.420 blapped over and over with Psalm 91

00:39:32.840 yeah everywhere you go

00:39:34.640 whether it's David from the chat

00:39:36.880 that's sending it to us or it's coming up

00:39:38.700 randomly or you see it on Facebook

00:39:40.380 or in church they just

00:39:42.140 the the guy that used to be the the pastor gets up real quick and he's like i just want to say 0.91

00:39:47.840 psalm 91 and then he like leaves yeah like all right what the fuck is happening now very strange 0.88

00:39:53.040 yeah man for sure but every episode i do every podcast i do i've always got this by me but this

00:39:59.500 is i mean this stuff is real man this stuff is dangerous i know sometimes we have a we have a

00:40:04.760 laugh we have joke about this stuff but there is a very dangerous side as well to even looking into

00:40:09.900 these subjects we know that you know and it definitely is spiritual attacks there definitely

00:40:14.880 is attacks they definitely target people i think that focus in on some of these subjects that we do

00:40:19.940 and it's it's definitely and you're right what you were saying about the these these entities

00:40:24.420 whatever you want to call them living off people's fear because that that is what was happening in

00:40:28.620 our house you know it was getting to a point where my wife said to me you've got to stop doing this

00:40:32.680 paranormal show you know and she's very supportive for me my wife and she's not even particularly

00:40:36.620 into paranormal that much she's a little bit but like everyone is but not like i am and she was

00:40:42.100 like this is getting to a point where it's affecting our family and i'm like i'm not stopping

00:40:47.020 the show i love the show well tell me what kind of things because it takes a lot to cross that

00:40:54.540 that like you know that line where it's like strange happenings to this is taking a toll on

00:41:00.480 the on the family what what sort of things are you experiencing also is your wife are you like

00:41:04.200 telling your wife about what's happening on the show or is she just assuming yeah i don't we she

00:41:10.160 doesn't listen to the podcast and we don't mind either she's not that interested really yeah

00:41:16.100 in a lot of these topics she's she's recently started going down some conspiracy rabbit holes

00:41:20.580 recently she's like look at this and i'm like you i've told you about this years ago you're like

00:41:25.700 she's at the start what's that sorry is she on tiktok because that's what my wife is doing the 1.00

00:41:31.840 same thing where she's like check this shit out and i'm like luckily i never stopped pestering my 0.90

00:41:36.620 wife so she is aware that i've been saying these things but she is like oh that's interesting 0.98

00:41:40.440 because now it's reaching my feed and it's uh and it's you know to the tunes of whatever thousands

00:41:45.400 and thousands of views on these ideas um where that wasn't the case not long ago with my wife

00:41:50.220 yeah it's becoming a weird thing at her job where the girls that work because she's kind of like 0.97

00:41:56.280 their their boss or whatever they work under her there's a couple of them that are fans of this 0.54

00:41:59.660 show now oh really wow that's cool she's like what the fuck are you doing yeah i'm like i don't know 0.98

00:42:05.640 we're just talking we're just talking just talking shit we was having a build-up of activity in our 0.85

00:42:12.440 home to the point as i say my wife said you've got to stop doing this podcast this episode is 0.95

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00:43:02.520 an hour you might as well publish it it was it was stuff you mentioned mimics earlier that's

00:43:08.140 happened in this house so my wife on a number of occasions now three occasions now that i can think

00:43:13.220 of she's heard me call her name whilst i've been at work and and that's that's not good that's

00:43:21.280 never good that's not good and she kind of the first time it happened she was kind of she said

00:43:24.880 she was kind of laughing she knows i'm at work she's kind of like laughing about and but thinking

00:43:29.020 what the you know what is going on there was a we had one night where so i've got two daughters 1.00

00:43:35.200 and a son little son he's only six um and this happened not last summer the summer before

00:43:42.080 so this this was there was a big build-up of activity going on in our home where it was it

00:43:46.560 was getting worried very worried you know the kids were seeing things and you know i i protect them

00:43:51.440 from this paranormal world you know i don't yeah i don't promote my show to the kids they can't see

00:43:55.740 anything that i do i might talk little things if they saw a big a bigfoot documentary once it

00:44:01.420 freaked my daughter out and you know she she possibly she thinks she saw something in the

00:44:06.820 forest once i was like you know this is not good let's let's protect them from this kind of stuff

00:44:10.780 but they were all experiencing weird stuff you know not sleeping well you know that that kind

00:44:16.580 of thing there was one night where my two daughters and my wife slept downstairs had like a girl's 1.00

00:44:21.080 night in the front room and me and my son was in my room now i don't know if i mentioned it last

00:44:27.200 time i was on the podcast i am scared of the dark this sounds pathetic but because of the things i've

00:44:34.020 kind of experienced i can't play in the dark on my own i had that for a i had it for a really

00:44:39.460 really really long time and i would say that i only maybe got over that i'm 35 now probably just

00:44:47.600 within the last five years

00:44:50.040 within the last five years for the very same reason

00:44:52.720 I am so lucky that

00:44:54.480 I'm going through the part of my life

00:44:56.340 where my life

00:44:57.720 where my kids

00:44:59.820 are insane

00:45:02.480 so maybe there is like 0.99

00:45:04.500 poltergeist shit happening in my house 0.96

00:45:05.920 I don't know 0.99

00:45:06.680 I'm just throwing shit 0.99

00:45:08.540 I'm trying to survive dog 1.00

00:45:11.140 I got a five year old

00:45:12.120 it's tough

00:45:13.880 yeah but this this particular night so that the girls are downstairs Fred's asleep my boys next

00:45:21.780 to me I'm just like laying there and I've had the hallway light was on which is where a few

00:45:27.340 weird things were happening in this hallway just outside our room and the kids bedroom as well

00:45:31.980 so anyway I'm laying there I'm trying to sleep um and my boys woke up now he was in a dream state

00:45:38.560 so you could say he's possibly dreaming but he looked at the door and he went amy and amy is my

00:45:44.960 eldest daughter right and she wasn't there now it's freaked me out i was like fred what what

00:45:50.140 are you saying what have you seen and he said i saw amy and i said what does she look like and

00:45:54.900 he's his words were she's she was all brown that's what he said he was he had just woken up from

00:46:00.600 sleep but if you hear i've heard so many people say when they see these entities and and and often

00:46:07.060 they they have like a brown color it's quite a common thing that i was hearing at the time as

00:46:11.340 well you know these elemental type entities a lot of i was doing a podcast where you know sometimes

00:46:17.380 this happens when you talk to a lot of people you get like clusters where people are saying the same

00:46:21.780 kind of thing yeah and it's that's not planned you know that's not that's not you know and it

00:46:27.640 was just all fitting together and my boy is now saying he's seen my daughter brown walk past the

00:46:33.700 bedroom and I was like whoa so this was enough to freak me out even though he could have been

00:46:38.320 dreaming or whatever it was enough to freak me out I've gone downstairs we've joined the girls

00:46:41.940 party that night and we've all slept downstairs so not told any of the other kids about this

00:46:47.600 but that same week I got home from work and I get home from work at 1am in the morning UK time

00:46:54.260 the kids are always asleep the lights are always off when I get in but the light was on and my

00:46:59.700 middle daughter was sitting at the top of the stairs and i'm like what's the matter babe what's

00:47:03.580 going on where you're up and she was like all freaked out she went mommy said i can sleep in

00:47:08.280 your room tonight um i saw amy walk past my bedroom door and she it wasn't she's the same week 0.96

00:47:15.560 she saw my eldest daughter that wasn't there walk past in the same kind of area and for me that was

00:47:23.320 like oh that's you know that's not a coincidence i don't think that they both experienced the same

00:47:29.040 thing in the same week when as well there was a lot of other weird stuff going on around the house

00:47:33.460 so you know at that time i pray every day now and i've always i've always been a christian myself

00:47:39.960 but i really at that moment i was like praying out loud you know jesus's name leave now uh and

00:47:47.220 a few you know i would say like moments like that and this kind of stuff kind of went away a little

00:47:55.520 bit you know um but there was a lot there was a lot of weird stuff going on it wasn't just that

00:47:59.600 there was there was it was it was getting weird in the house man that so you know this phenomenon's

00:48:07.620 ability to masquerade as an individual if you look into the the ghost phenomenon the more you

00:48:13.600 look at it the more i'm convinced that it is just something masquerading you know something that

00:48:18.040 wants you to perceive it as um you know people that do ghost hunting and they go into a place

00:48:23.060 And they go, this seems to be a spirit of a little boy here who died here.

00:48:26.400 And it's like you look up the thing, the history of the home.

00:48:29.600 And, you know, sure enough, a little kid did die there.

00:48:32.440 And I go, yeah, but I don't think that that makes it the spirit of a child.

00:48:36.080 I think it is a thing masquerading as a child.

00:48:39.300 I think it's a thing that wants you to interact with it.

00:48:41.480 Because when you interact with it, you give it a series of permissions and consent in order to interact on a higher degree with you.

00:48:49.080 And eventually, you know, this thing goes from interacting with you to influencing you.

00:48:54.760 And you know what I always find, Tommy?

00:48:56.880 It's like when these things happen, there are usually you will find if you look around heightened emotional states.

00:49:04.820 So there was a time a few months back or maybe it was a year ago.

00:49:08.720 Now, I don't know what it was, but we were having something strange.

00:49:12.700 Can I can I just say put a pin in that?

00:49:14.900 go ahead i'm i'm very gay and i like i like musicals dude this is nothing wrong with that

00:49:22.060 bro no there is something wrong with that when i get arrested when i get arrested in the uk if i

00:49:27.160 said i'm gay yeah i don't think so i mean i wouldn't be surprised but you probably get a

00:49:32.200 position in parliament the phantom of the opera is a it's a play that i've seen a couple of times

00:49:39.340 and and there's always been like the spooky aspect to this one song where they're at the party and 0.91

00:49:44.240 it's like you know it's like high living and it's like very british shit i don't really understand 0.77

00:49:47.900 it no offense tommy it's weird it's weird it's weird it's weird but there's like they're having 0.69

00:49:54.600 a masquerade party and when you're talking about the phenomenon masquerading like the the lyrics

00:49:59.540 of the song are masquerade paper faces on parade masquerade hide your face to the world so the

00:50:05.680 world will never find you masquerade every face a different shade masquerade look around there's 0.96

00:50:12.040 another mask behind you and the entire scene is fucking creepy because it's these like rich 0.95

00:50:18.000 elites and they're dressed up like uh almost what's that movie um uh the one with all the 0.97

00:50:25.380 no not the purge but like the one where it's like one shot eyes wide shut thank you tommy

00:50:30.160 that's exactly what it is but it's like they're trying to show that oh this is a party but like 0.92

00:50:35.060 realistically if you understand what a masquerade is it's kind of like a big orgy it's a sexual

00:50:39.700 ritual like people getting murdered over there it's a weird time but it makes sense that the

00:50:45.640 phenomenon would replicate that exact word the masquerading around of a thing yeah to represent

00:50:51.500 something else and it's just like i hate i hate that i hate that that idea sorry please continue

00:50:58.140 no no no i i think that that's a that's when we're talking to nathaniel gillis and he talks

00:51:03.500 about are we take your turn take a ride on the merry-go-round an inhuman race an inhuman race 0.99

00:51:09.960 that's interesting that's great well nathaniel gillis says are we are we uh are we what's the

00:51:17.620 word mythosing or a myth a lot myth mythologizing mythologizing the mask right the mask that this

00:51:25.980 thing is wearing and that's that seems to be what it's consistently doing is it's wearing a mask

00:51:30.260 but i was saying that um like a like a year ago we were having like a brief moment a brief moment

00:51:37.340 i think this is around the time um with these lyrics are nuts dude remember the whole uh you

00:51:44.460 know laura baker deliverance session that i went through and all that stuff it was around that time

00:51:49.920 it actually prompted the deliverance session because i was seeing things in my apartment for

00:51:54.960 the first time since i moved there so this wasn't even a year ago how long ago but either way

00:51:58.660 what I took note of is that uh my wife and I were like very thank you uh very short with one another 0.78

00:52:06.140 in our tempers and it would be dumb shit that we were getting reactive about you know so we 0.95

00:52:13.280 kind of like you know and luckily we're really good at pulling it back when it got when you know 0.95

00:52:18.680 as soon as we see it we go wait a second this is not there's nothing to argue about but like

00:52:22.800 our tempers were short and and i was like maybe a little bit more grumpy dad than i typically am i

00:52:30.900 have a history of being a grumpy dad but i think in this instance i was like a little bit more uh

00:52:36.420 a little bit quicker to anger and so i think but but i think that's significant i think if you give

00:52:42.220 into that sort of thing because ultimately what does it want it wants fear and it wants uh uh you

00:52:47.900 know sadness and despair and all these other things well if it can create within a household

00:52:52.180 what leads to trauma oftentimes right like if you are a child who's watching your parents argue

00:52:58.740 well sure that kind of thing happens but if those arguments turn into screaming fits and those

00:53:04.580 screaming fits turn into physical blows or something like that yeah well that's all started

00:53:09.520 by just dialing up the the temp you know in in this home uh as far as anger goes and that leads

00:53:18.680 to it's a domino effect it can lead to if you're not if you don't have your wits about you if you

00:53:22.900 don't put a cap on it if you don't um you know have some humility and and pull back it leads

00:53:28.780 to it can lead to traumatizing childhood experiences and that trauma is the doorway

00:53:33.880 that they use masquerade seething shadows breathing lies masquerade you can fool any

00:53:39.180 friend whoever knew you masquerade seething shadows spreading breathing lies breathing

00:53:44.800 lie masquerade leering satyrs peering eyes run and hide but a face will still pursue you

00:53:50.980 leering satyrs like the little goat man yeah yeah it's there's so in in these art in this kind of

00:53:59.060 art form and this is probably the oldest play on broadway because it is a great musical um but in

00:54:04.440 in this art form they do tell you they express the truth to you and it's like it's always underlying

00:54:09.020 and i always wondered why like it feels bad well sometimes too i think it's it's the thing that's

00:54:13.680 worth making art about you go like this mysterious compelling thing um yeah i don't know they still

00:54:20.080 do it they still they still show us they still tell us you know hollywood and stuff like that

00:54:24.640 still they give us clues to this stuff and show us they have to tell us is what people say this

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00:55:20.160 So I think...

00:55:20.860 Oh, I'm sorry, Tommy.

00:55:22.740 I was just going to say you were alluding to this idea

00:55:25.140 that you had like other experiences in conjunction with these things.

00:55:29.380 I wonder if you can talk about that a bit.

00:55:31.000 There was a lot of weird stuff going on.

00:55:33.460 For example, one night I remember,

00:55:34.680 so I was, I've always had weird,

00:55:38.580 I've seen things, when I grew up,

00:55:40.040 I grew up in a very haunted house.

00:55:41.560 and i've so i've always been very i've always been very open to the paranormal because i've

00:55:47.480 had experiences from a young age and kind of you know it's never been a doubt in my mind that this

00:55:53.060 stuff is real basically throughout my life um but i i was when i started let's get freaky

00:55:58.440 i i say this quite a lot when you look into the paranormal it looks back and i think that

00:56:02.900 definitely happened straight away there was an uptick of yeah i was seeing things and it could

00:56:07.640 be sometimes like you're if you're thinking about this stuff can you manifest it you know we know

00:56:12.180 our brains are powerful and we can i'm sure in some cases we can see things that are not there

00:56:16.580 and we're like well i've just seen a shadow figure maybe uh some cases are undeniable you know um

00:56:22.280 but there was an uptick of seeing things and things in the corner of my eye and stuff one night

00:56:28.100 i woke up and this this was this was so strange and this was like at the height of the family

00:56:33.380 experiencing this kind of stuff as well i woke up and my wife was sitting up crying right so during

00:56:40.420 the night i can just see her crying and i was like what the heck's going on is she all right

00:56:45.000 she got a headache or something or what's going on so i've got up and i've put my as you would

00:56:49.600 put my hand on her back to like say babe what's the matter what's going on and i've gone through

00:56:54.660 her look down and she is sound asleep and i was like what the you know like what what is that i

00:57:02.760 mean now you can argue that i was in a sleep state i woke up and i'm you know maybe disorientated but

00:57:07.860 for me it didn't feel like it felt very it felt real you know i saw her there i have i have when

00:57:13.720 i was a kid i'm a young adult i woke up and i've seen like the shape of someone standing it's

00:57:19.120 actually happened in this house where i've woken up and there's the shape of someone there which

00:57:23.080 is terrifying you know even if your kid's standing there you know yeah you have that where you wake

00:57:26.860 up and your kid's looking at you even that's terrifying you know it's not a good time to

00:57:30.400 wake up and see something so that there was stuff like that going on there was there was one night

00:57:35.260 oh this was this was this was strange this you could put this down to possibly the guest that

00:57:39.440 i was talking to now she was a lovely lady you know i was having a great conversation very nice

00:57:43.940 lady but she was dealing with a big haunting in her home right and it was terrifying what she was

00:57:50.120 telling me was terrifying i was thinking i couldn't live in in the situation that she's living in

00:57:54.740 and i said something to her like why why do you not because she wasn't combating this stuff she

00:57:59.880 wasn't praying or anything or you know whatever you can do to get rid of this stuff she wasn't

00:58:04.680 trying to do that and she was like they're my friends and i was like oh my gosh yeah fair enough

00:58:12.520 you know each their own but we kind of finished the the recording and then she said to me oh they

00:58:18.480 might come over to see you now and i was like i was like you can keep them there absolutely fine

00:58:26.060 now this is where it gets really weird because she said that right and so i do this that i record

00:58:31.180 normally 1 30 a.m uk time so it's it's you know eight o'clock in the 8 30 in the us so it's perfect

00:58:38.420 time most of my guests are in the us so i always leave all the lights on downstairs right because

00:58:44.640 i'm normally a bit freaked out after the conversation i've just had so i like to go

00:58:48.660 downstairs to a full lit house yeah but on this occasion after that lady said that i've got i've

00:58:55.380 done my routine i've packed it all up gone downstairs all the lights are off and i was like

00:59:00.420 that's weird now that the wife could have got up and turned all the lights off she doesn't do that 1.00

00:59:05.720 though and i'm like okay i'm a bit freaked out i've turned all the lights on around the house

00:59:10.340 okay it's fine you know somewhere there's probably a normal you know this is fine anyway i've gone

00:59:15.480 into the front room gone back into the kitchen the light was off i was like i was praying out

00:59:21.880 loud i said no i don't want anything so that that's a side to this these conversations that

00:59:28.320 we have and and and i used to think okay i'm talking to people you know all around the world

00:59:34.360 it can't it can't it can't get through the computer basically but i think that's how they

00:59:41.000 move dog i know exactly yeah but i think it's i think this world is is much more connected and

00:59:47.260 i don't think it works like that i don't think time is the same obviously in the spiritual world

00:59:51.780 and we are all just one and and yeah so stuff like that happens man it's freaky i i think so

00:59:58.960 you know a lot of times people will say especially if you if you're a christian like why are you

01:00:04.760 looking at this thing but i find that when you look into this phenomenon you know you

01:00:10.860 number one you discover patterns which are useful if you're going to understand the thing patterns

01:00:15.840 are important bits of information but the other thing too is that um when you unpack this story

01:00:23.880 what happens is there is a listener out there somewhere and that listener these entities they

01:00:31.100 don't like when you talk about the the um logistical nature of how it happens they they

01:00:38.960 would prefer that you don't talk about it all because you're ruining the magic trick in a way

01:00:43.400 yeah but when you're looking into the magic trick right then you now do i become a magician

01:00:48.800 no i don't think i remember what dr marzinski said when when they said you have no right to

01:00:55.480 interfere with our way of life yeah and initially they didn't want to communicate with him they

01:01:00.840 don't like when you start investigating what's going on because i think they're well they choose

01:01:06.900 they choose who they're gonna go to yeah and who they're gonna like spin their trick on so if it's

01:01:12.400 somebody that's not a mark i i kind of understand really real quick another sidebar chuck from guam

01:01:18.520 shout out chuck he's guam and all the time he asked if you have a dog i do have a dog i do now

01:01:23.760 the chat's very yeah go ahead i've got a little staff of triple terrier uh he's a lovely little

01:01:30.320 dog i didn't have him at the time when i first started doing let's get freaky but i do have him

01:01:34.540 now and he's he's we had a weird night me and him that sounds weird me and my dog had a weird night

01:01:40.260 i just it was about three o'clock in the morning uk time again just finished recording and again

01:01:51.540 this was through the period of a lot of high strangers in my house and just absolutely

01:01:56.840 everything was fine all of a sudden my dog who's in a cage just you know just just near my room

01:02:03.700 near my studio room but he never barks or anything he never like he never moans he's better than all

01:02:08.820 the kids at sleep and he'll sleep all through the night on this this one occasion he started

01:02:13.360 barking and going crazy that's and i was thinking what the heck's going on like what's going on

01:02:18.620 so i've gone out i've checked on him he's just going crazy in his cage which is very

01:02:22.640 rare he doesn't do it the wife's asleep the kids are all asleep i i've looked downstairs and i can

01:02:29.640 hear some mad movements like like furniture's being moved like i'm thinking i'm being robbed

01:02:37.200 like there's no there was i wasn't thinking ghosts or anything i think i'm being rocks like

01:02:41.800 there are men there's something in my house and they are they're looting me man i'm and i'm thinking

01:02:47.180 what i'm gonna do i'm gonna have to because we haven't got guns or anything i'm gonna i i've got

01:02:50.900 a bb gun but it's not gonna do a lot so i've picked up something heavy i've got my dog out

01:02:56.000 and i'm like boy this is it we're gonna go this is this is go time there's people down here we

01:02:59.760 gotta go this this is big so we've run down the stairs all the lights are on so i leave the lights

01:03:05.880 on but there was nothing moved there was no one down there and when i say like it was it was like

01:03:11.120 i could hear people walking around and moving stuff it was so loud and obviously the dog heard

01:03:15.500 it as well because he's going crazy so yeah that's yeah that that was another thing that happened

01:03:20.220 through the period i think they the chat heard heard a whimper and they're they're on edge yeah 0.99

01:03:25.540 after the whole yeah you won't hear him so if you that wasn't him fuck oh i'm sure we'll get to you 0.96

01:03:34.020 know if there is anything it'll be he's not we're in a coffee shop so there's no dogs here um you 0.91

01:03:39.020 know that once again that reminds me of the nathaniel gillis episode uh the nathaniel gillis

01:03:44.820 episode where he said that somebody heard a noise and when they went downstairs they saw the item

01:03:49.540 that had dropped was not capable of making that noise it was like almost amplified yeah and so

01:03:55.300 when you think about in terms of frequency um you know this is this is the mode in which they

01:04:01.480 interact with the physical realm so they can manipulate it sound is is is frequency and so

01:04:06.680 the ability to amplify it and make you hear things that maybe there is like you know who 0.97

01:04:11.880 made the shore microphone a demon well the nazis uh they made a great ass yeah microphone uh-huh 0.89

01:04:19.080 shout out to the nazis um amplification yes that's all full in technology though yeah like all that 0.66

01:04:25.440 stuff that we're using and it's the same thing too right when you look at like the megalithic

01:04:28.420 structures people that some people think it was giants other people think it was a you know giants

01:04:32.880 and sound technology you know vibration frequency allowing you to move an otherwise immovable object

01:04:39.480 with ease so i mean yeah man there's there's definitely something to and i think that noise

01:04:44.760 thing also is a is an easy way if they can manipulate the way that you perceive a sound

01:04:50.680 to generate a tremendous amount of fear which it does right i mean as soon as you hear that

01:04:56.440 it's like what in the world and you know you're all the hair on your body raises up and and now

01:05:01.420 all of a sudden you're in something close to like a fight or flight mode like am i gonna have to

01:05:05.820 fight intruders in my house and meanwhile it could just be a minimum effort that that yields

01:05:12.860 a great result for them because i do think that they feed off of that um that negative energy

01:05:18.820 and so they're just eating off you as you sneak around the house with your dog that whole passing

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01:06:13.240 to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it the guy that uh he had like a parasitic entity

01:06:19.900 on him but something interesting i don't think i've ever even told you our boy uh colin at one

01:06:25.320 point when we had first interviewed him before the second time yeah i was talking with him i like

01:06:30.620 colin but i i've like limited like limited conversation with him because he was like

01:06:34.660 we were talking and he's having a good time say how are you doing i said ah fine you know it's

01:06:38.860 like kids are they're not sleeping they're stressing me out he goes i'm gonna uh have my 0.98

01:06:43.820 angels pray for you and i said don't do that don't don't don't i told him don't fucking do that 0.99

01:06:47.760 colin is a guy that uh again is like um in contact with these entities in a similar way that you were 0.93

01:06:54.840 talking about this woman and but he thinks some of them are are good and i'm just i'm like i mean

01:07:01.560 it might be but it's like it is very hard to um they're paired with like uh some of these entities

01:07:08.440 tell them get in shape do this do that they've abducted him upgraded him for war uh some of them

01:07:14.440 are have given him horrific experiences some of them are friends and guides and i'm just like yeah

01:07:21.060 but the guide stuff you know i would stay away from that i'm trying to find these things yesterday

01:07:27.080 on this on this episode one of the notes that i took down that um gillis mentioned was mr blue

01:07:32.460 of the skull experiment and it was an entity that they were able to contact whoever he was talking

01:07:39.820 about through this thing called and i i asked him for clarification i said scold or skull and he said

01:07:44.320 it again and it sounded exactly the same when he said it again so i just wrote it down i'm trying

01:07:48.640 to find something i can't but but colin mr blue mr blue is what it was called in this i i just

01:07:54.380 tried scold s-k-o-l-d experiment that doesn't seem to yield anything um so i don't know but

01:08:00.820 it's fascinating to me that there should be this experiment where they're interacting with these

01:08:05.480 entities and a blue guy appears they call him mr blue because that was one of the main things that

01:08:10.540 that colin interacted with was this this blue guy but i guess the point was is that like he

01:08:14.760 and colin's not a bad dude but he was like yeah yeah like these guys these angels that talk to me

01:08:19.220 like they could help you and i was like i'm good don't yeah i said don't ever do that oh it's the

01:08:24.200 s-c-o-l-e experiment s-o-s-c-o-l-e okay um something to look into maybe later on the skull

01:08:32.520 experiment oh there's a whole a documentary on it so yeah man um i think that that sound

01:08:39.520 manipulation is one of the big ones you know what i actually started realizing tommy is that you

01:08:45.220 know that feeling when all that hair on your body stands up now there's sometimes where like i have 0.95

01:08:51.360 what's called uh uh like autopilot erection so i could just do it to myself but it's not don't

01:08:56.940 laugh at that dude this is different why would you laugh why would you what dude it's a real

01:09:02.140 a real thing i don't know why you so but when you wake up and you get the sensation that something

01:09:09.120 there is there that feeling is not you know self-produced and it is really intense and i

01:09:17.840 realize like i don't think that it's um it's obviously it's often accompanied with fear i

01:09:22.620 don't think it has to be accompanied with fear though i think it's a physical tell that your

01:09:27.780 spirit is like putting upon your body it's an alarm it's like hey something's here it's not

01:09:32.860 saying like be afraid i don't think that that is because of fear i think it's because something is

01:09:39.700 there and it's and like there's something in your spirit that's letting you know and it actually

01:09:43.920 manifests as a physical thing on your body so i've gotten to the point now where like when that

01:09:47.820 happens i'm like okay all good you know what i mean like i i i pick up what you're putting down

01:09:52.620 body or spirit or whatever but i don't think i think that's an alarm system like a natural

01:09:58.360 ability that we have to warn us that there's something there we can feel it yeah we've

01:10:02.720 definitely got senses like when someone's staring at you but you and you turn around and you're not

01:10:07.640 looking at them but they're staring at you and you feel it you know that's like a natural sense

01:10:12.020 that we have built in us that feeling when you meet someone for the first time and you get that

01:10:16.620 feeling that this person doesn't seem to like me you know there's no yeah they're smiling at you

01:10:21.500 you know you're shaking hands but you you just there's that vibe and you're like what is that

01:10:25.700 man that's like a natural ability that we seem to have yeah yeah i think there's really something

01:10:31.600 to that um i think it's it's i think with that you know the smart thing to do right after that

01:10:36.640 is like okay there's spiritual things going on spiritual warfare comes next and you start praying

01:10:40.380 yeah i think that's what it is it's like what's the point of alerting you that something's there

01:10:44.980 something's there something's warring against you in the spirit you can't see it um maybe you can

01:10:50.220 maybe you see a shadow maybe whatever but you got that confirmation your body's sending the alarm

01:10:55.740 systems off it's time to start praying that's what i think absolutely yeah that's where i am right now

01:11:01.660 that's what i do and that that seems to be working for me and that is what you know why i carry on

01:11:07.800 doing the podcast because things do happen every now and again like literally two weeks ago i was

01:11:13.060 in my kitchen and i was on my cell phone just going through messages and stuff just me and the

01:11:17.780 dog in the house and i just got this feeling that someone was in my doorway and i could kind of see

01:11:23.040 someone in the corner of my eye like as if you know someone was standing there and i've looked

01:11:27.340 and for like it only lasted less than a second it was so quick there was something like there

01:11:33.080 i didn't get any well i couldn't tell you who it was what it was but it like it vanished and i was

01:11:37.980 like my heart's beating out my chest for you saying about the fear you know didn't get what

01:11:42.520 it wanted in that moment you know the fear that i was projecting uh and that that was very recent

01:11:47.460 that was like two weeks ago i'm not saying again that that might be my mind manifesting stuff but

01:11:52.000 i'm not even thinking about i wasn't thinking about anything paranormal in that moment and it

01:11:56.340 happened um but yeah stuff like that man is is is that you know these these shots of fear that we

01:12:03.020 give these things it seems to be how they grow i think that i think it's fine it's fine to give it

01:12:09.640 uh like that type of fear that you're talking about i don't think there's really a choice in

01:12:14.120 us to that reactive like yeah yeah you better be afraid because that but that's also gonna

01:12:18.760 trigger you to fight like that initial boom where you're like hairs on my neck something's going

01:12:23.800 down yeah maybe it's fear but like all right are we gonna fight but it goes no further than that

01:12:29.800 yeah it's the same thing when you see a dog like you you know you have an alert go off there's a

01:12:34.520 go oh this is danger but but what happens next after that is important you run you trigger the

01:12:40.520 dog's prey instinct it chases you it bites you you fall down you freak out it keeps biting you

01:12:45.560 you move towards it you get bigger you chase the dog the dog almost always runs away oh my mother

01:12:52.360 taught me that when i was real little she's like never ever run from a dog it's how you position

01:12:57.000 yourself with the dog right like your shoulders back yeah straight up you're making maybe not

01:13:01.880 not make eye contact with it but like have speak its language so that i swear to god i don't think

01:13:07.340 that there's a dog on earth that if you first and foremost don't run from and then second start

01:13:13.400 running towards is not going to haul ass away there's some dogs when i was a child when i was

01:13:19.920 a kid um i was riding my bike with my buddy and we rode past a junkyard and they had junkyard dogs

01:13:25.860 and two junkyard dogs squeezed underneath the fence and chased us my buddy i said don't run 0.99

01:13:31.100 he had never heard that before so he said fuck you and he was on his bike he kept going I was so 0.99

01:13:36.860 taught from a young age never run from a dog I got off my bike I picked my bike up and started 1.00

01:13:42.300 running towards the dogs and the dogs tuck tail and ran straight back under the fence and left

01:13:46.720 and I was confused I'm looking at my buddy who's riding away but that's the thing we were like

01:13:50.880 I don't know 11 or 12 like if I got on those dogs would have caught us we're on bikes and

01:13:57.340 these are you know fast like they're gonna catch us yeah they're gonna bite you you're gonna fall

01:14:01.700 off your bike you're gonna hit the ground then you're on the ground and you're getting tore up

01:14:05.000 by dogs but i picked up my thing i made a bunch of noises like and i moved towards the dogs and

01:14:11.240 the dogs ran away so yeah you're right that instinctive fear is like that's an alert that's

01:14:16.320 letting you know that you're no longer in a normal normal circumstance you want to call that like

01:14:20.120 fear or fear adjacent that's fine that's just letting you know like this isn't you're not at

01:14:24.260 the supermarket you got that yeah you got a little bit of energy but like what am i supposed to do

01:14:28.620 the same thing though like the dog you go at it you go at it but of course you do that in a

01:14:33.420 spiritual way so that's prayer i've gotten to the point now where like i don't um i i wasn't always

01:14:39.860 like this and it's changed a lot in the last six months or so maybe more than that a little bit

01:14:46.200 more than that but and it's been slow and gradual but i pray every day now and on the days when i

01:14:52.280 don't i'm like i feel like i'm lacking and i don't know i and i and i pray like you know a bunch of

01:15:03.460 different things routinely but to be armed against these these spiritual things that are aimed at us

01:15:12.820 because i think you know as we go further in time and as the you know all of our shows get louder

01:15:17.680 and louder and people do galvanize to this dark side those attacks are going to get um more and

01:15:24.860 more egregious and it doesn't have to be from people um because you know there are these

01:15:29.500 spiritual entities that like we said don't like getting revealed um and i think as we move towards

01:15:33.860 disclosure you know this thing wants to be masked as aliens and even just calling that out is like

01:15:41.880 it doesn't like that it doesn't like when you pull on the mask it gets very upset this episode is

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01:16:29.760 if you're going to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it tommy you were you

01:16:34.840 were mentioning that you had some experiences uh of the ufo variety yes yeah man this is going to

01:16:41.460 sound well but these absolutely happened right so i i have always been fascinated with ufos i'm

01:16:46.620 always looking up and i think if you're always looking up you are going to see some weird lights

01:16:50.220 in the sky that you just can't explain but i've had two experiences that are like

01:16:56.080 what pretty wild you know when i tell you and it's it's it's like nothing i've seen before

01:17:02.020 on any other you know show or anything like that but the first one happened when I was about 14

01:17:07.060 years old and it was me and my brother and a few other guys in the street we every day we used to

01:17:13.020 play football in the street soccer in the street that's what we did through the summer and it was

01:17:17.200 just a normal summer's day lovely blue sky we're playing soccer in the street and I can't remember

01:17:22.660 if it was me or one of my friends and my brother but one of us was like what the heck is that in

01:17:25.940 the sky and we've all stopped playing football and looked at this and when I tell you what it was

01:17:32.020 pretty wild it looked like a futuristic building that you would see in like dubai right imagine a

01:17:38.460 futuristic building that you'd see in dubai you pick it up you put it well up in the sky and just

01:17:43.160 let it flow that was literally what we were seeing and talking to like that size too i mean it was

01:17:49.540 very it was high up in the sky but i did like thinking about it i can imagine it being that

01:17:54.280 kind of size but it was it was well up there right so it wasn't moving it wasn't changing shape or

01:18:00.720 anything like that it was just there it was just floating and we're all looking at it we're like

01:18:05.220 is this a plane like i remember for ages we're like trying to work out what it was is it a blimp

01:18:09.480 like who knows what it was is it a balloon it didn't look like a balloon yeah that looked that

01:18:14.300 thing if you tilted that on the side and put that in the sky i would say that's a ufo there was

01:18:19.660 actually a picture released recently i don't know where it was from i saw it on social media

01:18:23.480 but it was like a weird looking ufo that actually looked like a balloon it does look like a balloon

01:18:28.760 and i mean again i don't know this could be some sort of balloon it could be some sort of technology

01:18:34.080 that we have and that they've not disclosed but i was 14 so this is going back i'm 38 now

01:18:39.260 so this is going back a fair time um so we're looking at this object and it was like orange

01:18:45.120 and silver you know that's that's the two main colors that was coming off this thing i kind of

01:18:49.580 can imagine like windows on it and stuff now but i think that's just my mind adding that on as the

01:18:54.600 years have gone on but right I couldn't see windows or anything like but it looked like

01:18:59.700 just a weird pattern it just looked like a strange mechanic I don't know what but it's

01:19:05.220 very high up in the sky what's bugged me we just started playing football again we just didn't

01:19:10.800 you know this was before the cell phones and having photos on your phone so we couldn't take

01:19:14.800 any pictures or anything like that we just carried on playing football so I don't remember this thing

01:19:18.800 flying off disappearing I don't even remember how that day ended to be honest and the weird thing

01:19:24.220 as well is I never me and my brother never really discussed this so we never really talked about

01:19:29.160 we may have done but I don't remember talking about it after it happened and it wasn't until

01:19:33.860 I started let's get freaking I kind of wrote down the things that I'd experienced you know

01:19:37.560 for doing podcasts like this you know I wanted to make sure I remembered all the weird stuff

01:19:41.800 that I'd experienced that never even came to my mind this this memory and I was on a podcast with

01:19:47.980 cat world paranormal heart podcast the first time i'd done a show and and i'm talking about my

01:19:54.020 experiences and this memory has just kind of come back and i'm like i'm gonna share it i shared it

01:20:00.080 and and i thought this is strange after the podcast had finished i was like why did i not remember

01:20:04.800 that amazing thing you know because it's not something that you should forget and i'm thinking

01:20:10.200 am i manifesting stuff now did i dream that and it's like a mad dream that i'm remembering and

01:20:14.540 i'm remembering it all wrong but then my brother rung me up uh a couple of days later he listened

01:20:20.160 to that podcast and he said i enjoyed it bro what what was that thing we saw that day you know what

01:20:25.980 i remember seeing that and i was so happy in that moment that he also remembered yeah seeing this

01:20:31.700 weird thing in the sky and i was like what do you think it was i don't know you know my brother's a

01:20:35.280 lot more skeptical than i am um but he's had some experiences as well but he's still very skeptical

01:20:40.400 and he's you know we don't know what that was you know it could possibly be some sort of balloon

01:20:46.100 that was just but it was very high relief though that he that he also remembered it i i know what

01:20:52.200 you mean i've had experiences where like when survivors of ufos talk about it it's always like

01:20:57.960 oh yeah thank god like i'm gonna bring this article up that uh this is from my uncle he

01:21:04.540 saved the newspaper from that day so that's june 5th 1978 in the new york post close encounters

01:21:10.040 over brooklyn and uh they somebody got a picture of it but there was a ufo what he described as

01:21:16.540 like a mothership and it was over a busy city street and he was on his balcony and he saw this

01:21:22.900 thing and it was probably like a city block away from it but it's that's not very far especially

01:21:26.820 when like something as large as a football field he described it as being like it was over this

01:21:31.880 high school called john dewey and he said it was the size of john dewey wow so it was that big and

01:21:37.220 it had like he said tank wheels that like moved around this way but nothing that people could

01:21:41.160 make but it was like slightly moving he called his wife was my aunt they go and they look at it

01:21:46.800 and and she goes oh and then he says as fast as it's there it's gone gone but throughout that day

01:21:53.100 everybody in brooklyn and uh a couple of other boroughs i believe like this article goes and

01:21:58.540 says like queens um manhattan and brooklyn definitely they're they're sightings of ufos

01:22:05.180 i don't know if it's the same one but they see it and uh well the interesting thing about what

01:22:11.760 my uncle and my aunt did i said so what the hell do you do after you see this you're standing on 0.65

01:22:15.220 your balcony you look at it he goes uh we sat down we watched jeopardy and then we went to sleep

01:22:19.660 and i said yeah and when and like what he's like we didn't talk about it at all until the next day

01:22:24.700 when it was on the radio because everybody else saw it and they go oh yeah like yeah we saw that 0.56

01:22:30.480 too and it's like what the fuck are you talking about you saw the most amazing thing in the world 0.97

01:22:35.260 and you don't even give it a second thought to have a conversation you watch jeopardy i don't 0.98

01:22:41.180 know what that is man because that is super consistent across everybody's experiences where

01:22:45.940 you see something phenomenal and then and then you just kind of move along like it didn't happen

01:22:50.620 almost and where to place it well that's what i i'm caught between that and something else because

01:22:55.100 it's like to say you don't know where to place it doesn't really solve the eeriness of the way

01:23:03.240 that you move on because there is an eeriness with which you forget that thing and then later on

01:23:09.000 you know when you remember it you you do look at it and you go how could I have forgotten that how

01:23:15.360 could I have not made a bigger deal of that and that to me is strange because it just feels

01:23:20.200 unsatisfying the explanation of you don't have um context in which to place this thing it's like

01:23:27.000 of course we have context in which to place this thing we're inundated by all sorts of media that

01:23:31.860 shows us this phenomenon it's a it's a it's a ufo movie it's an alien movie it's a show it's a

01:23:37.000 it's a podcast it's a video game media has saturated us to the degree that we have plenty

01:23:42.960 of scaffolding upon which to put this thing and yet we still forget about it in an eerie sort of

01:23:49.780 way. And I, and I, I'm forced to ask, like, is there another component that's at play here that

01:23:54.720 we don't understand? Like, is this, is this phenomenon making us, is there something

01:23:59.340 advantageous to show us and then make us forget? Because it has the ability to manipulate our

01:24:04.580 perception, right? That image, for example, in that article made me think about it. It's like

01:24:10.840 what we were just talking about this on the previous podcast, what one person sees will

01:24:15.560 show up differently on camera. That little orb in the sky is different than a high school sized

01:24:23.720 thing, a block in the air. And is that to say, well, that's just the way that it translates to

01:24:29.060 the lens of the camera? Or is that to say that what one person perceives is different than what

01:24:33.720 another person or piece of technology perceives? Very interesting to like what those people

01:24:37.720 photographed. I don't know what that is. And I don't know what everybody else saw. But I know

01:24:42.340 what they saw together they both saw the same thing right but it could could very well be one

01:24:49.200 aircraft going all around brooklyn all day well it's the same thing too when when tommy's talking

01:24:53.920 about like tommy and his dog both hear this thing but then they go down and there's nothing there

01:24:59.780 nothing dropped nothing moved and it sounds like there are intruders in the home but nothing has

01:25:06.880 moved and myself in particular i've had experiences where i hear things and it wakes me up out of

01:25:14.060 sleep and i go to investigate and i realize even though i've heard this thing three times in a row

01:25:18.780 over an extended period of time and it's very loud someone's banging on the door nobody in the house

01:25:25.060 hears it reminds me it's a fun one in in my old house in coney island when i was a kid would

01:25:29.640 happen often maybe once every three years but it would sound like every pan like my mom would stack

01:25:35.240 the pans in a in a drawer uh like i think it was underneath the sink or like by there

01:25:40.780 and uh it would sound like all of them fell and then like then i'm like i'm not going down there

01:25:47.720 but the next morning you go and you look and you're like this is going to be annoying to pick

01:25:51.080 up yeah and they're just there but every single one of them fell i know that and that happened

01:25:57.840 like often and we just go oh man indians you know dead indians probably yeah i don't know 1.00

01:26:02.700 but there's something about this perception that it hijacks and you know i i just wonder if it's

01:26:09.840 hijacking your perception and it's making you see this thing and that's different other people

01:26:15.600 experience it differently some people might be in the same house not experience it at all

01:26:19.300 and then it also is going a step further and it's it's almost casting this forgetfulness

01:26:26.580 on you you know how many people talk about seeing a craft and in the moment they feel

01:26:32.100 strange like oh would you look at that and it's like no no you should be well that goes to like

01:26:38.200 lost time as well yeah everything is perception manipulation and and i'm wondering is it that

01:26:44.840 versus we don't have a way to contextualize this do you feel like you had lost time when you don't

01:26:50.420 know how like that day ended or what do you it's a good point yeah it's a good point i mean i don't

01:26:56.160 know i mean it was a long time ago so obviously memories when you're that age kind of turn into

01:27:02.080 one basically right but um every summer's day was pretty much the same at that time uh but it's just

01:27:08.760 very strange that we never really discussed seeing something so amazing you know it was an incredible

01:27:13.300 thing to see it was something like obviously ufos have always been out there you know in in our

01:27:18.740 culture but not as you know in that time i don't know if it was as big as it is now but still it

01:27:24.600 was it was out there you know you had shows like space precinct and obviously star wars you know

01:27:28.560 we're all very aware of these shows star trek and things like that this thing was very much

01:27:33.100 something of you know it was an incredible thing to see when i think back uh so it is very strange

01:27:38.480 that we never spoke about it i was just so happy that my brother remembered it and i wasn't just

01:27:42.900 you know on a podcast spouting some weird dream that i'd had you know yeah it was it was it was

01:27:47.620 good confirmation for me because as well if my brother didn't remember it say what are you talking

01:27:51.500 about bro you know you you know that would suck yeah i just had this i just had this experience 0.71

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01:28:46.900 shit. My mom had told me a dream that she had. She had a dream. And she had said that 0.99

01:28:55.620 she was in the field. So I have like 10 acres and my parents' house is about, I don't know,

01:29:02.400 like 50 yards from my house, I'd say. And then there's like a field like right in between ours.

01:29:09.440 And she said she had a dream that she was in the field and there was a bunch of other people in

01:29:13.580 the field standing there i think maybe even in pajamas i don't remember exactly the story

01:29:18.120 and then she says oh the scene switch we're in like a school like setting like a hurricane shelter

01:29:25.980 but in in a school like in and not industrial but you know what i mean that kind of like yeah

01:29:31.600 a little cold not a home not a cozy not a home but like a cold it's got windows and it's got

01:29:36.720 like a gymnasium kind of feel to it um and she's like that's very weird and i had i had hushed her

01:29:43.000 at that point i'm like stop stop stop because my kids are here and i'm like i don't need them uh

01:29:46.500 internalizing that and then telling me that that happened to them because then i don't know if it's

01:29:51.080 true or if they're repeating it yeah um and i told my wife my wife and then i told it on on the show

01:29:59.120 and my mom listens here and there and she goes why would you say that and i'm like say what she's

01:30:05.340 like the story like that never happened and i was like no no you told me that that and another story

01:30:10.760 which you did remember about my grandmother yeah um and i go no no you told me that story

01:30:16.000 and now i feel crazy and now i feel like an asshole because i'm like lying all these people 0.98

01:30:20.260 so i'm like i go back that night and i go to my wife my wife and i say hey bitch 1.00

01:30:27.380 i'm like do you remember this story at all yeah and she goes yeah i remember i remember you 0.69

01:30:35.320 telling me that like right here like at the end of the day me and my wife talk after like every

01:30:40.400 kids are she's like yeah we were like doing this exact thing i remember this story and i'm like

01:30:46.120 okay i don't know what happened here something happened here and i don't like it so we put that

01:30:53.000 one to the side for now but it's very strange dreams are strange because there are some that

01:30:58.220 i remember from my entire life from like six years old or maybe even younger and then there

01:31:03.480 are other ones that like i've said even on this show and then when i'm reminded of them i'm like

01:31:09.280 how the hell did i forget about that one that was that was super strange um you know i want to ask

01:31:16.740 you this tommy because your stories are very similar to my stories and i have a lot of ideas

01:31:23.200 about why these things have happened to me i wonder if you have any ideas about why these

01:31:28.940 things have happened to you i mean you're going back pretty young um and you've got a range of

01:31:33.880 things from what people would call like ghost or demonic encounters all the way up to the ufo

01:31:38.820 variety and very similarly to me you have found yourself a deep interest in these things exactly

01:31:45.880 you have found yourself sitting in that chair um and i attribute my strange experiences to

01:31:52.600 to putting me in this chair why are these things happening to you it's a good point you know some

01:31:57.480 people seem to experience a lot of this kind of stuff and some people experience none of it and

01:32:01.920 that's very strange you know um i've i've it's always been a part of my life since i remember

01:32:07.800 since they since i can remember i've been scared of the dark i had a natural fear of the dark and

01:32:13.060 i guess you can say that that that's in all of us a little bit especially when we're kids well

01:32:16.580 wait wait this is actually funny tommy so i'm i'm here to trigger you i know what's going on in the

01:32:22.660 uk um but i have a bizarre probably cringy obsession with collecting brown man in my house

01:32:30.900 um i have slept with a knife under my pillow since i was uh single digits before i was ever

01:32:39.240 10 years old uh i've slept with a knife i love this knife it's a great knife yeah um uh with

01:32:44.540 a knife under my pillow and and it would help me to not be afraid of the dark yeah i mean i need

01:32:53.180 one of those knives for sure my family was always very much like we never really talked about ghosts

01:32:58.860 when i was a little kid but growing up it's very clear that this stuff has been in my family like

01:33:03.480 my dad's seen entities my mom's had some weird experiences like especially with dreams and like

01:33:08.980 astral projection and stuff my mom's experienced stuff like that and i think it goes back i know

01:33:14.520 my nan and granddad i've talked to them about this kind of stuff no my granddad had a uf so

01:33:19.040 ufo site in like the 90s which is pretty wild and he shared it to us you know he used to talk about

01:33:25.720 it all the time and i recently asked my nan my granddad's passed away now but my nan's still

01:33:29.640 alive and i was talking to her about it very recently and she was like telling me yeah your

01:33:34.400 granddad he he came home that day and he saw something that day and i'd love to have got him

01:33:39.120 on the podcast to get his you know full version of it but basically he was he was this was like

01:33:44.860 90s maybe early 2000s around that kind of time he was on a golf course with his two dogs and he's

01:33:51.400 walking down the fairway walking the dogs and he said he saw this like black object come up from

01:33:55.760 the trees and it was like a triangular shape and this is before like obviously drones have obviously

01:34:01.960 always been and probably we did have drones back then but not as much as you know not as prevalent

01:34:07.500 as they are today and you know this thing's come towards him he said it was large it was a large

01:34:12.680 uh craft whatever it was and he said it freaked him out and he's running to he's like the nearby

01:34:18.140 forest and he said this thing is literally following him through the trees like he's

01:34:22.400 looking up and he can see this dark object following him uh and he's he's come to the

01:34:27.700 end of the the forested area and there was a scout group walking along and he said he just

01:34:31.560 joined this scout group yeah like he said it was like a triangular yeah it's i mean it could be

01:34:37.100 military well if it's military to be honest it was previously ufo it was previously like alien

01:34:43.440 technology it's like reverse engineered shit or something yeah a lot of people go oh you saw it

01:34:47.720 like cole's cole's uh father i believe saw a tr3b as well and they saw it early 90s or maybe even 0.94

01:34:55.320 like 1980s this is before this stuff has been released the government's had this but previously

01:35:00.340 before the government had this this is just like this is fallen technology yeah so when he saw it

01:35:05.820 and also what was operating it who knows yeah and the way it moved wasn't like anything it wasn't

01:35:10.900 like a plane moving you know this was like a floating very strange man i also think you know

01:35:16.980 that when people see these things like i don't think you see them accidentally i don't think 0.72

01:35:22.240 they're like oh shit damn it the cloaking is down and and the civilians have seen us you know whether 0.97

01:35:28.000 or not it's alien or demonic or fallen angel or human military it's all you know connected in this 0.99

01:35:33.900 one big messy web or at least it appears messy to us from the outside looking in um i think they

01:35:40.140 the people who see it they see it on purpose i think it's they're revealing themselves to certain

01:35:46.780 people um and i don't know how they know who to reveal themselves to because why on earth should

01:35:55.460 this thing be then preceded by a lifetime of other strange experiences exactly

01:36:01.660 is that being open to it do you think is that possible if you're if you like no no i don't

01:36:09.480 think it is i think it is man i think we talked about uh with daniel gillis about um this idea

01:36:15.760 of observing the thing it kind of wants to be observed it wants to present itself to you in a

01:36:21.680 way like uh it'll present itself as uh your favorite cartoon character in some cases yeah

01:36:26.220 yeah i've heard that many times yeah it wants that consent drawn from you yeah but it's also

01:36:32.240 looking for somebody so so himmler and the the experiments in the nazi regime himmler is

01:36:39.220 focused on like certain attributes he's looking for specific candidates who will be you know um 0.96

01:36:46.380 better adapted to whatever displaying like there's always been some goofy shit right like within the 0.96

01:36:51.800 new age movement it's like star seeds they're looking for whether it's genetics chromia 0.93

01:36:58.420 whatever it is heterochromia twins is a great one right um but this proclivity to be bent that way

01:37:06.860 Well, Gillis was telling us about this, like what it seems like what they're looking for is an inhabitant. So he said he says demonic possession is pregnancy to them. And I think they are searching for this. And there are attributes, whether they're in our bloodline or something that's imperceptual, maybe like our brain chemistry, they know they have inclinations and maybe the government is actually in on it.

01:37:30.080 And then they send out, you know, go check this guy,

01:37:33.180 check this guy out a little bit further.

01:37:34.880 Is this the person that we're looking for?

01:37:36.860 Maybe, maybe not.

01:37:37.800 We'll run a little bit of a long game on him,

01:37:39.460 continue to poke and prod, you know?

01:37:42.380 How about his progeny?

01:37:43.500 Maybe not him.

01:37:44.520 Maybe throughout his bloodline, though, something's going on.

01:37:47.280 I think that's a lot of what's happening here.

01:37:49.520 They're looking for something.

01:37:50.640 Here's another interesting overlap.

01:37:53.280 Remember the concept of the indigo child. 0.92

01:37:56.940 You pulling it up?

01:37:57.800 No?

01:37:57.940 Oh, no, it's over here.

01:37:58.760 I mean, yeah, we could pull it up.

01:37:59.880 it's fine uh so an indigo child is a new age non-scientific concept describing children

01:38:05.540 believed to possess special unusual or supernatural traits such as high intelligence deep empathy and

01:38:11.460 a rebellious anti-authoritarian nature um which just describes every single person who's doing

01:38:16.840 a fucking podcast right now uh and everybody who's listening to these podcasts right now 0.95

01:38:21.620 uh coined by nancy ann tape in the 1970s and this is something i think my grandmother thought she 0.98

01:38:26.820 was considered spiritually involved, intuitive beings born to usher in a new era of human

01:38:32.040 consciousness, which plays into that, right?

01:38:35.140 Ascension, human consciousness, this thing is looking for individuals to interact with

01:38:40.520 that I think right there are going to usher in this new era of human consciousness.

01:38:45.880 And I don't want to say it's tricky because I think sometimes what happens is these people

01:38:53.100 also will wake up to the nature of the phenomenon.

01:38:56.820 I would hope.

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01:39:49.380 We're talking to audiences about a supernatural phenomenon,

01:39:53.720 And we are all a drip in a bucket that is turning into a lake and eventually an ocean of people who all got to the similar conclusion by this podcast or that podcast or Let's Get Freaky or Nephilim Death Squad or Tony Merkel Show or whatever.

01:40:10.620 They're all being woken up to the spiritual supernatural reality of.

01:40:16.680 And I'm like, dude, it's like I don't I think this is the gayest terminology ever.

01:40:20.760 indigo child only second place to the ultimate gay terminology which is starseed um but i got

01:40:28.920 a hard time with the idea that we are in fact sitting here um ushering in a new that's so 0.99

01:40:36.660 so cringy and gay ushering in a new era of human consciousness like shit yeah whoops i don't know 0.99

01:40:46.320 is that a whoops i think that's what it is i don't think it's an openness or the openness rather 0.99

01:40:52.180 tommy is a result of a predisposition a predisposition that mk ultra wants to find in

01:41:00.580 you a predisposition that the alien phenomenon wants to find in you a predisposition that leads

01:41:05.760 you to having these interactions maybe a predisposition that's genetic in nature that

01:41:10.880 You know, you look within the Bible or so many other things outside of the Bible, within the occult and genetics and bloodlines seems to be a really huge, you know, it's of importance.

01:41:23.980 It's of importance.

01:41:24.780 I wonder how many people are listening to this show.

01:41:28.160 There is a type of person, Tommy, I'm sure you've met them, where you utter even the smallest semblance of anything that we've talked about here today, and they just turn off.

01:41:39.200 They're not hearing it, dude.

01:41:40.880 This is, I, it's a lady and her husband outside the studio one day asking me what we do here.

01:41:46.700 I say, we do a show.

01:41:47.860 She goes, about what?

01:41:49.080 And I go, well, for example, today, it's, it's going to be about alien disclosure.

01:41:54.500 And she, she goes, hmm, okay.

01:41:56.740 And her husband walks away, walks away.

01:42:00.620 Many, many times. 1.00

01:42:02.120 So it's like, maybe this phenomenon, you know, has a bunch of stupid ass names like Starseed 1.00

01:42:08.780 and indigo child and you know homosexual but um maybe there's something there at the root 1.00

01:42:15.740 that is biblical that that has been defined if we're just if we just care to look and um and

01:42:22.660 maybe it's just a lot more common in 2026 than than it previously was i'm not saying we're special

01:42:29.100 i think that is a very slippery slope and a very dangerous notion to to think that we're special

01:42:34.180 but something i think wants to leverage people like us and i think there are a lot of us and i

01:42:40.080 would i would venture to believe that the vast majority of the listeners are also of that you

01:42:45.060 know that cloth absolutely yeah because i've got to be interested in this but i mean that

01:42:50.200 those people you should have called that gentleman back and said sir have you had any paranormal

01:42:53.940 experiences and he may have had something weird that's happened he just doesn't want to go there

01:42:58.040 you know a lot of people are like that as well yeah um but yeah i think i think yeah once once

01:43:04.240 you have an experience that is undeniable for you i think that's why sometimes you see more

01:43:09.980 i'm not saying that's a good or bad thing i mean i could quite happily not experience anything else

01:43:14.400 again be very content be very happy still love talking to people about it and hearing people's

01:43:19.120 experiences because i think that's how we learn and you know we're putting all these pieces together

01:43:23.560 to try and work out what's going on and people that you know there are difference in opinions

01:43:28.520 in whether this is a positive or a negative it's very hard right now to to kind of know

01:43:33.980 maybe there's there can be both with with with this topic maybe there can be some positive i

01:43:39.100 don't know um but there is certainly a lot of negative and from what i've experienced throughout

01:43:44.540 my life it's been more on the negative side these experiences have not been positive you know it's

01:43:50.420 not been i'm talking to a relative and i'm not saying people don't i'm not i'm not saying that

01:43:55.540 that's not a thing as well but what i've experienced it's been a negative attack it's

01:44:01.000 been spiritual attacks you know that have not been not good basically i i think that's actually

01:44:07.740 a bit of a blessing in disguise because i think the worst thing is to be deceived by something

01:44:12.880 that is benevolent claiming to be benevolent that's the that's the real scary thing you have

01:44:18.560 something that is soothing that comes to you and and you know presents itself one way and feeds you

01:44:24.140 a whole spiel you know a lot of the time within the alien abduction experience they're being told

01:44:28.820 to go out and spread something and it's usually like Gnosticism you know it's it's new age belief

01:44:34.540 system adjacent it's it's whatever so um that's a I I feel terrible for people that get whisked up

01:44:41.780 in that because in our simple state in this physical realm in this materialistic paradigm

01:44:47.200 to be shown something amazing

01:44:49.080 and then to be convinced by that thing

01:44:50.960 that it loves you

01:44:51.640 and has your best interests at heart

01:44:53.000 and then is actually telling you

01:44:54.740 to go out and mislead people. 1.00

01:44:56.760 Like, shit, that sucks, man. 1.00

01:44:58.040 I'm actually grateful 1.00

01:44:59.320 that the experiences that I've had,

01:45:01.220 I can point to it and go,

01:45:02.620 that is definitively evil.

01:45:04.460 And I pit myself against that thing.

01:45:08.400 That's a lot easier.

01:45:10.060 And I would say-

01:45:10.980 You know what?

01:45:11.380 I'll say shout out to the Blurry Boys. 1.00

01:45:14.100 Yeah, okay.

01:45:14.820 Because this is a hard,

01:45:15.720 it is a hard thing to do.

01:45:16.780 and i don't want to get you in trouble it is a hard thing to do you've you've created a narrative

01:45:22.160 and co-written books about one side of this and then now it seems like they're going to the other

01:45:28.020 side it's really like once you say like oh these things are neutral or good it's it's hard to go

01:45:32.520 back and be like actually no you know well let's not sure and it seems like that's what they were

01:45:36.200 that's what they might be hinting at and like for somebody to do that and i again i don't know if

01:45:41.760 they're exactly doing that but if you're going to take something you previously said and said 0.92

01:45:45.700 i might have been wrong about that like fuck i i actually kind of respect that more yeah thinking 0.59

01:45:52.100 about it in a different way well let's pull this up on the screen so we can show the audience what 0.95

01:45:55.340 we're talking about so so um you know i made a cheeky little meme it says before nds pressure

01:46:00.400 and after and the and the fans are very familiar with what's been going on it's not a it's not a

01:46:06.320 knock against the blurry creatures guys or even alberino they just so be they just so happen to

01:46:11.260 be toting a narrative that i find incredibly dangerous it doesn't matter who was toting that

01:46:16.180 narrative if you are in a christian space and you're saying it's like i gotta i gotta disagree

01:46:20.840 with you you got a huge platform and you're reaching a lot of people i gotta disagree with

01:46:23.780 you so this is what we were dealing with necessarily disagree with them they were fighting

01:46:27.140 but that's fine well so so this is what uh was initially happening the day after our episode

01:46:34.040 released great looking thumbnail too great looking thumbnail and and and this is after the the debate

01:46:39.280 with timothy alberino releases he that takes an impromptu uh flight over to where the blurry

01:46:44.540 creature boys are they have a fantastic show and i i've i've listened to it in the past but this 0.86

01:46:48.860 comes out immediately look at the fucking sandal this is dallas fitfire flippity flopperino oh my 1.00

01:46:57.660 goodness flippity flopperino is insane um but the thumbnail here ufos are real and they aren't 0.98

01:47:04.320 demons and this comes out right after our debate with them and i don't know you know it's it's a

01:47:09.480 it's a straw man if there's ever been one who was saying that ufos are the disembodied spirits

01:47:13.780 nephilim i don't know but it doesn't matter because yesterday they released a new episode

01:47:18.560 and this is where they're at now ufos are demonic and i just want to say guys that like at the end

01:47:25.620 of the day what is important what's important is the truth and i'm not saying that i have a

01:47:30.480 stranglehold on it this is just deeply what i suspect to be true this is not even really the

01:47:34.280 truth ufos are like craft or it's a step in the right direction man it's a step in the right

01:47:39.800 direction and i'm just going man uh and you can make fun of them for flip flop arena in but and

01:47:46.040 we will and we will but ultimately this is good um because these guys god bless them they have a

01:47:53.000 huge platform and if if they're gonna get out there and say this thing which which i agree with

01:47:58.560 to some at the very least give both sides of it that's like kind of that's fair that's fair that's

01:48:03.260 fair so um yeah yeah yeah but just what a turn of events because this has been quite a saga for us

01:48:09.660 over here on nds a fun saga one of the more uh fun things that we've uh engaged in is this this

01:48:15.680 strange conversation that is done through meme warfare uh but it's it's narrative control

01:48:21.220 it's narrative control and as we go forward and we're on the cusp of what seems to be

01:48:27.040 really alien disclosure um getting this aspect of the narrative louder and louder is important

01:48:35.960 i'm not saying it's true it's true as i see it i'm not lying to anybody but if i believe this

01:48:40.100 to be true in my heart and i want to warn people against it the louder i can make it uh the more

01:48:45.000 grateful i am and so that's the name of the game this episode is brought to you by spreaker the

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01:49:34.060 to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it i i have been looking at um

01:49:41.180 the ufo phenomenon in in a different way now lately and kind of overlapping it i don't know

01:49:47.560 how this even melds with christians or christianity but uh i think the same techniques and aspects

01:49:53.720 that aliens and uh even demons use i think that it's it's not specific to them i think that jesus

01:50:02.460 will also replicate these things like we were talking about this idea of the implantation you

01:50:08.340 have the father then you have the son that's being implanted and the physical son will then

01:50:14.460 be embodied by a spirit so this demonic entity that is causing that possession is using a trinity

01:50:21.360 like uh personality yeah like characteristic i'm not saying it's a trinity clearly not

01:50:28.220 but they're doing they're consistently mimicking and copying these things that can be

01:50:33.260 that are used by god yeah a nephilim is a bastardized version of what god did with

01:50:39.240 jesus christ where it's like human being his his uh his son put into this human being's body to 0.98

01:50:45.980 create this perfect human yeah they do it comes out all fucked up evil giant no soul but they 0.99

01:50:52.560 evil but they do it but they do it and uh when i'm thinking about revelation 1 7 where it's like 0.98

01:50:58.000 every eye shall see when he comes down from the cloud right and and what's that gonna look like

01:51:04.080 on the on the discussion of what we're talking about like like so we're telling people stuff

01:51:08.080 and because we've kind of been haunted by this and now we're telling people and and they're

01:51:13.720 opening up their eyes and we're like is this a bad thing right because they're going to be looking

01:51:18.820 like you know as you said as you do the podcast you're like i'm having spiritual attack because

01:51:23.440 i'm i'm opened up to this thing but i think the reality is that this thing is always there

01:51:28.180 and especially yeah yeah for people like us like if you don't do the show do you still have this

01:51:33.960 same sort of spiritual attack maybe maybe not as intense because maybe you're on maybe you're on

01:51:38.800 to something uh but i think you still deal with this in your life just quietly without a microphone

01:51:43.900 but if it's our job to open up people's eyes to this and unfortunately they're going to see there

01:51:49.660 is a yeah there's a spiritual realm here and there's like a demonic presence in it and that

01:51:53.820 those things might reach out to you you got to learn how to deal with this stuff but if jesus

01:51:58.860 is saying that oh sorry john is saying that he is coming in the clouds and every eye shall see him

01:52:06.620 yeah you often think about like how the hell is that going to happen how is everyone going to see

01:52:11.740 him the same it's like because people i think people have to be open to it like that guy that

01:52:15.900 walked away from you he can't see that the same way people if you can be in a forest if you're

01:52:21.260 not like in in the mindset of believing of a bit a bigfoot you're never going to see this thing right

01:52:26.780 right maybe you'll see something else maybe you'll see an orb um but yeah it'll manifest to you if

01:52:32.800 you have your eyes open to it if you're looking and it's constantly telling us be looking always

01:52:38.140 be looking for the return of the son of the son of man always like eyes open look around and it's 0.98

01:52:44.420 like yeah well when you look around you're gonna see a lot of shit yeah a lot of stuff but we're 0.99

01:52:48.940 supposed to be looking for the one thing most people aren't even even christians they're not 0.97

01:52:52.380 like really looking for this stuff i have a feeling that dude after this you know we talked

01:52:59.320 a little bit about this war in iran and israel and and these orbs showing up and you know obviously

01:53:04.280 that email with uh the you know the the military personnel getting a speech about trump being

01:53:12.800 anointed by jesus christ to usher in the second coming and we have easter coming up soon and

01:53:18.920 before Easter is when the Bledsoe say that

01:53:20.920 the star Regulus is supposed to align with the Sphinx

01:53:23.080 and this is a prophecy by the Lady

01:53:24.460 and there's going to be some great

01:53:26.860 revelation in the way of

01:53:29.020 information

01:53:29.780 I think that once

01:53:33.060 they pull the trigger on this

01:53:34.680 disclosure thing

01:53:35.600 these

01:53:37.620 stories

01:53:39.700 are going to go from

01:53:42.920 dreams

01:53:44.520 and bumps in the night

01:53:46.340 and shadow people

01:53:48.000 and they're going to much more favor what people have been saying they see in the woods

01:53:52.640 they see alongside their vehicle as an upright dog they see in the sky as a moth man i think 0.97

01:54:00.360 that shit is going to go through the roof i think it's going to become in the way that conspiracies 0.98

01:54:07.140 have become normalized but like people look at the bigfoot stuff a little bit still too fringe 0.99

01:54:12.280 maybe it's a little bit goofy to some of the people who want to just talk about the nuts and

01:54:15.560 bolts aspect of the recovery operations and the crashed craft and the non-human biologics and all 0.99

01:54:21.400 that shit the way that overton window has shifted for conspiracies that overton window is also going 0.85

01:54:27.380 to shift for the supernatural entities aspect of things and i think that might be in short order 0.96

01:54:32.580 especially if we're supposed to see this event come to pass uh in april it's not long it's not

01:54:40.020 long away no i think we're going to be having very different conversations soon tommy yeah man

01:54:47.880 yeah absolutely and i think it's good for uh i don't want to say business but it's good it's

01:54:56.300 it's good for us yeah i mean if you if you're already a believer you're ahead of the curve

01:55:02.540 and um and i think voices uh like ours like yours are going to be really important when people are

01:55:08.560 seeing these things you know people like you tommy are going to be able to say like hey i've been

01:55:13.160 documenting them actually for a really long time and so if you want to have a conversation about it

01:55:18.040 uh come and have a seat because i've got a lot to say and i i think uh that that kind of a person

01:55:25.360 is going to be really important because the last thing you're going to want to do is believe the

01:55:27.840 government narrative on these things oh absolutely absolutely man i i had someone very recently come

01:55:33.860 to me that was quite close close to me i won't say who they were because they won't want me to

01:55:37.200 put it out there they've struggled with like depression and stuff like that throughout their

01:55:41.600 life and they very recently come to me and it is quite difficult when people ask stuff like this

01:55:46.680 but they're like do you think i've got uh some type of possession on me you know i don't think

01:55:52.600 they'd listen to let's get freaking heard some of the things we talk about regarding that kind

01:55:56.300 of thing and i think spiritual warfare is is happening to most people even people that are

01:56:02.380 not christians even people that you know don't believe in this kind of stuff it's there you know

01:56:07.040 they are still experiencing it um and and it was very sad for me in a way to to hear

01:56:11.960 this person say that to me you know a good way in one way because maybe that that

01:56:17.780 maybe be able to help them going forward now hopefully um but i think there is a lot of that

01:56:24.100 i think there is a lot of people that are unaware of this spiritual battle that are actually being

01:56:28.240 affected you you were saying about you know when things get tense in the house and you start

01:56:32.100 snapping at your kids and your wife and stuff yeah that's all part of it as well man and a lot

01:56:36.180 of people don't realize that that is actually a part of the spiritual battle you are experiencing

01:56:40.880 this battle that whether you believe it or not it's there it's happening and we everyone goes

01:56:45.920 through that so the more we talk about it the more we open up and share and hopefully that can help a

01:56:51.380 lot of people that's that's the goal i agree i think that's exactly what it doesn't want it just

01:56:57.300 being this this whole phenomenon it doesn't want to be talked about um it wants to remain undetected

01:57:04.300 for the most part and that it wants to reveal itself and tell you its nature and um and so

01:57:11.640 yeah man i'm gonna tell the story i'm gonna tell the story and that's that's the huge uh

01:57:15.980 the huge danger that we have going forward but luckily there's there's no shortage of

01:57:20.800 psychopaths like us um you know having conversations about these things and and uh you know so i hope

01:57:28.480 that we can we can serve a lot of people going forward but tommy i want to bring it in for a

01:57:34.280 Final question before we do that, I have a feeling it'll be a better answer than maybe some of the answers we've gotten from previous episodes.

01:57:42.020 No, no, it's actually a very easy question. Big pressure.

01:57:48.700 It's, you know, you've got this lifetime of experiences and it's put you in this chair and you're having these conversations at a time that seems really pivotal in the human story.

01:57:58.780 right i mean 2026 all these things on the horizon they all seem to play with the very things that

01:58:05.200 you've been researching and talking about for for all these years and um i'm wondering as things

01:58:11.280 are going right now are you having fun i am having fun absolutely i'm having fun i think it's it's

01:58:19.120 scary but it's exciting i think and i know there's a lot of there's a lot of negative possibly to

01:58:24.480 come and it sounds quite weird to say exciting it's maybe not the best word to use but um i think

01:58:29.860 i think our i think we've kind of always been in this moment for a long time you know yeah um

01:58:36.900 the world seems to be catching up more and more people you'll still get your people that don't 0.99

01:58:41.160 won't have this kind of stuff but more and more people are very much open to the fact that this

01:58:45.400 world is a lot more stranger and wilder than we believe it is and you know and what the mainstream

01:58:50.280 narrative tells us it is i think we've got some very interesting weeks to come and it's going to

01:58:56.460 keep us it's going to keep us talking that is for sure but i am enjoying it i am i love talking to

01:59:02.280 guys like you you know it makes you feel a lot less crazy when when we have these conversations

01:59:06.780 because if if i couldn't talk about this kind of stuff and this stuff it's there whether i do a

01:59:11.560 podcast or not you know um i would probably go mad myself so it's so important to have these spaces

01:59:17.140 where we can have these conversations the listeners can can can get involved as well

01:59:21.500 and yeah we can just learn together for this this crazy maze that we're in right now but i am i am

01:59:27.540 having fun yeah i'm enjoying it amen brother i think that's important i think that's important

01:59:32.660 because i think this this whole thing um you know at the end of the day if you have a we we chalk it

01:59:38.900 up to you have two choices in all things and it's uh fear versus faith and fear that's a hard place

01:59:46.840 to have fun in, right? But faith, faith in the idea that things will work out, faith that you're

01:59:53.120 doing what you're supposed to be doing, faith that there is a God who's in control, and faith that

01:59:59.000 you're in opposition to this dark thing. I mean, that's a thing to rejoice in. And if you're in

02:00:06.420 that spirit, you're having fun. And I get it, man. For the people who occasionally say they're not

02:00:11.560 having fun it's a dark thing to be looking at um but i think it's just the place that you're standing

02:00:19.820 where you're looking at it from yeah that determines perspective yes perspective whether

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Nephilim Death Squad - March 13, 2026

We Fet Freaky w⧸ Tommy Cullum

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