You Pick Our Topic | An NDS Bible Study
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Summary
We're back with another episode of Nedealim Death Squad, and this time, we're talking about hell! We're joined by Top Lobster, the father of disinformation, and Sweet Matthew, the host of Straight Bible, to talk about it.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
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That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
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Poorer of brown water and host of Straight Bible.
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And we are guamming at you live from the Standard Coffee Shop slash NDS Studios here in Lady Lake, Florida.
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We don't know how to use them yet, Z-Man, but we're figuring it out.
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We didn't know who sent us it because, for whatever reason, Amazon got rid of Z-Man's note.
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No, it was our very own Z-Man, who's actually our moderator over on Telegram.
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Ooh, patreon.com forward slash NephilimnetSquad.
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That's where Z-Man is, and you want to be there, too.
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This episode's going to go for free to the poor's.
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We asked the poor's, well, we asked the rich, the guaman.
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That they can pick whatever we're going to talk about today.
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Well, I thought we decided we were going to talk about hell.
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Oh, yeah, but I asked them, so I think we should, uh...
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Well, we should read it and say, huh, isn't that nice?
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Those are the kind of perks that you get on Patreon.
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We can read your input and then disregard it entirely.
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Also, early access to tickets to Brohimi and Grove.
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And, uh, discount codes off merchandise from TopLobster.com.
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And then the other night where it's, uh, a lot more people is going to be at the Brownwood
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Exactly where Brohimi and Grove is going to be.
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Thank goodness nobody's bought the ones that say, I'm not doing this, dude.
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Has anybody bought the I'm not doing this shirt?
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If we do the hell thing, we're doing it for 10 minutes.
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Actually, got something cool in the works for you.
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That corny wanker shit that you were talking about before.
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He's like, oh, let's make a shirt with just a pirate on it.
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Guys, I'm covered in little roly-poly pills, but it doesn't matter anymore.
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I'm really glad I got that under control because I didn't want to cut my hand off.
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You've heard that it was said to them of old time, thou shalt not commit adultery.
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But I say unto you that whoever looks on a woman to lust after her has committed adultery
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And if your right eye offends you, like you're lusting after this woman looking at her, pluck
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For it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish and not that thy whole
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And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off and cast it from thee.
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For it's profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish and not that thy whole
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Is this the scripture that talks about the worm?
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If you got Blue Letter Bible handy, we can do the hell thing in like 10 minutes.
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We have to keep doing the Blue Letter Bible thing?
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I didn't want to cut you off because I'm trying to be very respectful to you.
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You want to be nasty to me, but I don't want to be nasty to you.
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I do want to say that people should come and visit us here because we're working on Studio
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This should be 70% done in another three months.
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Studio 2B and then there's 2C and then there's 2D.
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I just want to say that you guys should come and visit us.
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I was reprimanded by an elderly woman, a lovely elderly woman named Nancy.
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All right, we have more comments from the video.
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Hey guys, if you want to hear the intro, give us a 1, 2, 3.
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So that's our first passage on hell, Jacob Israel.
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I know, but we don't have to beef with that dude.
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It doesn't matter what anybody else is putting out.
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To be honest, Kirk Cameron's beefing with the Bible too.
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All they care about is if people go with them and people agree with him and they like it.
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So they'll get their reward that people will like it.
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We're not in the business of like beefing with people.
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He was on JimCast IRL and he was chatting it up with the satanic Gary the Numbers guy
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who hates Christianity and says a lot of really off-putting crap.
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But just to give everybody the thousand foot overview, Gary hates Christianity.
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Oh, it says no audio, no audio, no audio, no audio.
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I actually called him earlier and he said basically the Lord put it on his heart to only respond.
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As far as I'm concerned, he said his only input on that entire episode was reading scripture.
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And he's also on a platform that reaches so many people.
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So this guy just got up there and spread the gospel on a massive platform in the face
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of, you know, my understanding, more than a few people who are really off by Christianity,
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He just read scripture and then said peace out.
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I don't know if we're going to try to get it up here again.
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Anybody who thinks they have a relationship with God has it?
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So Gary the numbers guy is saying on Tim Pool's show, he goes, anybody who believes
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they have a relationship with God has a huge ego, more or less alluding to the idea
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that the creator of the universe, which he calls the prime creator because he's gay,
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that he is so busy with being the caretaker of the universe, he couldn't possibly give
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a shit what we're doing and the only time he interacts with us is when we die, enter
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Maybe you could pull it up on your computer for whatever reason.
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I feel like it's important to listen to, especially with the feedback, not the feedback,
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but with the constant barrage of nonsense that we've been getting from Gary the numbers
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guy from putting hexes on good people, which don't work.
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This is what I was trying to explain to Matt before, but he's texting now, so it doesn't
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He also manages the mis- or disinformation campaign of this weird brand of anti-Semitism.
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And I don't even want to call it anti-Semitism because the word's been used a lot, but this
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brand of noticing from people like Myron Gaines, who have huge followings.
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When I say Jewish people that I got a problem with, it's this dude.
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This worldly Jewish person that is dabbling in sin, in numerology, in spellcasting, in
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But he was like, I really don't have a problem with this guy.
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I don't know if this is going to work because I've never used anything with audio from here,
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I feel like Shane has been quiet, and I'm curious your thoughts on...
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Not just to say like, hey, everything that's going on we're talking about, but just like
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I just feel compelled to say rejoice in the Lord always.
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Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving.
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Let your requests be made known to God and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding,
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and will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
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I think personally, and again, I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I think anyone who thinks
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they have a relationship with God has an extremely huge ego.
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I think we're all specks of sand, the real prime creator, and the only time he's going
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to deal with us is when we pass on to the next lifetime, then he judges us.
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I don't see any point of the worship or any of this other stuff.
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I will say then submit yourselves to therefore to God, resist the devil, and he will flee
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I will say then give no opportunity to the devil.
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And here, I got a little bit of inside baseball on this.
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And then right before the show starts, this guy just goes on a tirade against Christianity.
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So according to Shane, he had a whole game plan.
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And he goes, nope, that's not what we're doing anymore.
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The Lord put on his heart scripture, read scripture.
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He just went in with the word of God and only did that.
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Dude, just so you understand this guy's character a little bit, Matt, this is a guy that sought
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out the, what would you call it, what happens when you lose a family member, like you fade
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He finds Joe Rogan's birth father and invites him on his show to then have Joe Rogan's estranged
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father who's been missing from his life called Joe Rogan a homosexual.
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If you were focusing, you would have understood.
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Gary the numbers guy platforms Joe Rogan's elderly father.
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Just to call Joe Rogan a homosexual on his show.
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Wait, so Joe Rogan reached out to him and was like, bro, are you serious?
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Because that's what you do with shit like that.
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Oh, I mean, listen, you can read a book that's 2,000 years old.
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I will say, whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil.
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And for the devil has been sinning from the beginning.
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The reason the son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.
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Brother, for 2,000 years, people thought Jesus was coming back and he still isn't there.
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What does that make all those people who died waiting for him?
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In Peter and in Jude, it says that mockers will say this.
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And specifically in 2 Peter 3, it says that people will say, where is he?
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He's fulfilling prophecy and doesn't even know it.
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On serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy and nothing shall hurt you.
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As our resident, outside of the box thinker, what do you think of numerology?
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Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
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Firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world.
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Shane has wrapped himself in the armor of the Lord tonight.
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What I will say is Phil was based on this whole thing.
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Yeah, that dude seemed like that was a cool thing that he said.
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He was kind of almost head nodding to him and saying like, hey bro, I see you.
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He's the lead singer of All That Remains, that band that was in Guitar Hero one time.
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He's a, this is, if this is genuine, okay, I hope so.
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Every other time that I've talked to this guy, it's always been disingenuous, nonsense,
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I'm telling you, I was there, almost fell asleep.
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Because these people are that like, except for Ian.
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We have a whole bunch of people questioning numerology, but they're, you know, willing
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to believe the Bible and Quran with no evidence.
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I think half of the people here are, wouldn't even consider themselves Christian.
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Just want to say humble yourselves, therefore under the mighty hand of God, so that at the
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proper time, he may exalt you and I'm praying for you.
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Please don't pray because when you pray, you become prayer.
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It doesn't seem like anyone wants to push back on religion.
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Well, but you don't sound, you don't sound half as ridiculous as he does.
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Shane Cashman, I just want to say really quick.
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Shane Cashman, we had the pleasure of, you introduced him to me top.
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My overwhelming impression of Cashman in the early days of this show is that's one
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Keep in mind, that guy that just said that about Shane, that's his boy.
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The guy, he probably just met Gary, the numbers guy today, but what do they have in common?
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Gary, the numbers guy, is like a Luciferian Jew.
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I'm not concerning myself with any of that, bro.
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Whatever's happening on the world stage is Cashman just read the word of God on a show
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where that does not happen in the presence of people who cannot stand the word of God.
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I think one of the more powerful things I've seen in sort of like the internet influencer
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The only reason Shane was allowed to talk about it was because the rapport that he did
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So like Tim has a certain level of respect for him.
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But anytime that scripture or the Bible or religion, specifically coming from the Christian
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standpoint, has been brought up on Timcast, it's been shot down very fast.
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Even though he's on Timcast as an umbrella company, he's allowed to talk to whoever he
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You know, say what you will about Tim, and I've said a lot of things, but at least he's
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So, you know, Timcast IRL ended up being a platform for the Word of God.
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Jonathan Greenroy says that we should cover Mephizabeth, the promise of David with the
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The son of Jonathan that was crippled, and David took care of him the rest of his life?
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I don't know that we're going to cover the life of David today.
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In Matthew 25, 41, this is the sheep and goat judgment.
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He says, then shall he say unto them on the left hand, depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.
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So that gives us the time, like some people say that like, oh, it's not eternal.
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This is a story that Jesus is sharing with, I don't know, we got to go back to the beginning of the story, exactly who he's talking to.
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Okay, but this is a human man that he's talking to?
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If you look at this, this is all like it's after the Matthew 24 take heed that no man deceive you.
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It's all written in red, written in red, written in red.
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And then he talks about the sheep and the goats judgment, the judgment of the nations.
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Written in red is a name, like a really good name of a like a band or a show or something.
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And we are just pulling out the specific passage though.
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41, then shall he say unto them on the left hand, depart from me, you cursed into everlasting fire.
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So regardless of the context, he's talking about everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
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So he's making a point that there is such a thing as everlasting fire.
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And it was prepared for the devil and his angels.
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Because hell, people who say hell is not eternal.
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And we can pull up the passages to talk about that the worm that dies not.
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The very end of Isaiah talks about it that we'll be able to go look at the burning carcasses forever.
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So what do you make then of people who are saying like, you know, there's Christians or Catholic or otherwise who are saying there is no hell.
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No, no suffering when you're judged that you're going to befall for any, you know, extended period of time.
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Bob and I talked about it on the last show that like they're saying it's just means separation from God.
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It's like if you don't think separation from God is torture, then good luck with everything.
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Like, like, let's, let's say it's not burning and fire and torture and like little Nikki where they shove a pineapple up Hitler's ass at three o'clock.
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Like, like, let's say it's not that separation from God is torture.
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So I don't know what people are trying to get out like the Bible's clear, but I just want to make this point of what it is like what it is.
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It's everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
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No, like clearly the context is this is not good for you.
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I don't know why people would go out of the way to say no, no, don't worry about it unless they're like tickling people's ears trying to make them feel good.
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Like, I don't know what you're gaining from that.
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Like, like if the scripture is very plain on this, I don't know why you try to make it say something it doesn't say, but I just want to keep getting back to this point.
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It's everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
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God has done everything he's going to do to rescue back from the dead.
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He let people spit in his face and rip his beard out and died this bloody, torturous death to buy you back from the dead.
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That was his way to buy you back for you to enter into eternal life with him.
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He's doing everything he can to buy you back from the dead.
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If you choose to follow, like the passage says, the devil and his angels, God says, OK, you go right ahead.
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It's remember we read it's God's will that all would be saved.
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Yeah, that all would repent and be saved, but he doesn't overstep his boundaries with you.
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And if you if you choose to follow Satan and his angels, that's their ultimate destiny is is in the lake of fire into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
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So we'll just pull it up in Revelation 20 verse 10 in the devil that deceived them.
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So this is where a lot of this is coming from deception.
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The devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever.
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It's a lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and false prophet are and shall be tormented day.
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So the beast, the devil, they're talking about Elohim entities, but false prophet.
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They're very specifically talking about the beast and the false prophet.
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There's like this triune entity and before it's the devil and his angels.
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And it's a place where there will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
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So before, if you put that in conjunction with what it said before, where it's the same place that the devil and his angels are going to.
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I mean, it's just an elaboration on that same place.
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It's a lake of fire and brimstone and you're and they are tormented forever and ever there.
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The great white throne judgment is what we refer to this in him that sat on it from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away.
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And I saw the dead small and great stand before God in the books were opened.
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And another book was open, which is the book of life.
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And the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, plural, according to their works.
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And death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them.
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Now death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them.
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And they were judged every man according to their work.
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So anybody who's in hell now is going to come out, get judge.
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And then verse 14 and death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.
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And whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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Because they're not going to observe the New Testament.
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I think that's a lot of what that guy, whatever his name is, was like, that guy's kind of foolish.
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You know, everything that you said, he was more accurate.
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Well, he's also reading from the New Testament.
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But they understood eternal life because back to David, when David's son dies, David sins with Bathsheba.
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And you have the whole thing nine months later, which is staggering.
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He hasn't repented for nine months, which is staggering.
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You kind of missed that if you don't read it slow.
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Because you said, what did the Jews think about hell?
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This is understood as a spiritual cleansing process.
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It's more of a rehab, not a prison, purification, not punishment.
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The Talmud teaches that the maximum amount of time you're going to stay in there is about 12 months.
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So you're going to do longer in a federal prison in the physical realm than you are going to do in the spiritual realm for your spiritual transgressions after judgment.
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Nothing in the Bible teaches that it's temporary.
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Only extremely wicked individuals might stay longer.
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And even then the language is symbolic, not literal.
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This is why Jews never recite the mourner's Kaddish for more than 11 months because it's saying it for 12 implies that you think your loved one is extra wicked.
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So I guess the mourner's Kaddish is something that you say for your passed on loved one who maybe you suspect is in Gehenna.
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So anybody who wants to bring up this concept of so-called purgatory, which is what this is alluding to, that it's like a refining place, that goes hand in hand with what's called indulgences.
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Yeah, that's where the Catholic Church had people paying to get their dead loved ones out of purgatory.
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There's a place called purgatory and you're paying for your sins there.
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And somehow after death, you'll be able to get out of there.
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And one of those ways is paying Catholic priests or popes or whatever to get them out of purgatory.
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So you can never talk about these passages or this context of purgatory without talking about indulgences because they go hand in hand.
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There's only purgatory because there's indulgences that a Catholic priest or pope could get people out of purgatory if you paid them enough money.
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So can you read that what you said about Gehenna again?
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So the part where you stay in there for 12 months or less?
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It's alluded to that that was like a garbage dump where the fire was always burning and carcasses were there burning.
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And so that's why Jesus used it as like a metaphor of what hell is like, referring to it as...
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It's called the Valley of Hinnom or Gay Hinnom.
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And it's a real valley outside of Jerusalem where ancient Israelites committed child sacrifice to false gods.
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So, I mean, that's a nice allusion to hell, I would think.
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This place that is their hell is a place of truth and revelation.
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And one where the soul confronts its own deeds.
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So back to what we were saying about what does the Old Testament say about this.
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And then after the child is dead, he stops fasting and mourning.
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Like you were fasting and mourning while the child was still alive.
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He says, yeah, I was fasting and mourning to try to get God to maybe not kill my child.
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But now that the child's dead, I can't bring him back to me, but I will go be with him.
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Now, like the punishment end of it, the hell part of it.
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There's a lot of these passages like we read where Korah gets swallowed up into the earth.
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And it's understood that hell is somewhere in the earth through the Old Testament.
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It was in, was it in Genesis where it talks about Korah, but it doesn't mention Korah.
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It says that, Oh, Abiram and Dathan, I think was the other guys that were with Korah.
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I forget what verse, but, but here's the end of Isaiah for as the new heavens and the
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new earth, which I will make shall remain before me, say it, the Lord.
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And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another.
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And from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me.
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I'm at the very end of Isaiah chapter 66 verses 22 through 24.
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And they shall go forth and look upon the carcasses of the men that have transgressed against
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Neither shall their fire be quenched and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
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So the Jewish people are certainly familiar with, with that passage.
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So, um, I don't know if people decide that it's just a refining.
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And after that, the judgment, we talked about that passage earlier.
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Cause it was in regards to, um, where you're like a, you get born and you're another animal
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So they're saying it's appointed unto man wants to die.
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Then they can go through some kind of process of purifying.
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And then the judgment that's, it's doesn't work like that.
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Well, nowhere in the scripture would, would allude to that.
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Uh, when, when he basically tells the, the story of, uh, of Korra.
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Um, it's in like the beginning verses it's in, uh, two or three.
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So what is the, and I don't really know, like, I hate to bring them up, but you know,
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Like I'm not, I don't really like to get into it.
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Like, no, I mean, I'm not even saying it to like dunk on him or anything.
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I'm just trying to understand like what he's saying.
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Maybe he posted it, but he was just saying, he wanted to say that hell's not eternal.
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Like I'm, I don't know, but if you're separated from God yet to me, that's torture.
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Like if you don't love God and you're going to be separated from him for all eternity, I
00:35:34.000
So those are the same type of people though, that live in hell and deny it.
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But, uh, 106, 16, they envy Moses also in the camp and Aaron, the saint, the saint of
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the Lord, the earth opened up and swallowed Dathan and covered up the company of Abraham
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Is that pertaining to the same exact, the same story?
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Like the earth opened up and then there was a fire in their company.
00:35:58.000
Well, remember it said that the plague spread through the camp and then Aaron had to run
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in between and stand between the living and the dead.
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Like, like people were drop, drop, drop, drop, drop.
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He has the center and he stands there like this dude.
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And the people are drop, drop, drop, drop, drop, drop.
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And it gets to him and he's standing with the sensor like this.
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And it says he stood between the living and the dead.
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Remember that was the context when we said the big difference between apostasy and faith.
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I didn't mean to, I just think like that's like a very plain teaching.
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And if somebody thinks hell doesn't exist, no problem.
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Cause I'm, I'm reading one of, uh, Jacob's tweets.
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There was a weird thing where Zach Brown did this whole satanic ritual.
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Um, we don't really have a problem with them, but if you're going to come after us and say bullshit, we're going to say it back.
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The shit, the shit that, that he told me in the private messages was, uh, demeaning talking down.
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When in reality, I see the power in the relationship or whatever relationship that we have with him as completely opposite.
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So I don't need to be talked down to somebody that doesn't understand the Bible, somebody that claims to be a prophet, someone that's saying these things.
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He can say like, yeah, I was talking a lot of shit and I was wrong.
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Calling him out, wasting time, running, asking for debates, running from debates.
00:37:51.000
But well, what I will say though, is that I'm just not gonna, uh, like if you, if you're
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going to talk shit, then I'm going to say something back and I'm better at it.
00:38:06.000
And when he initially brought it up, I was happy to do it, but then he bailed.
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And then it was like, okay, well, bro, I'm not going to spend, like, we're doing a thing
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Like we have a very specific study that we do now.
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Like we're out promoting truth, like preaching the gospel.
00:38:18.000
I'm not going to stop doing that and nothing against Jacob Israel.
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I'm not going to stop doing that to argue with anybody, not just him, just not against
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Like we, like we have a platform to preach the gospel.
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I don't have, and that's why I sent you that, uh, Nehemiah passage.
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I'm not going to come down off the wall and stop the work that I'm doing to do anything
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But there are people who are like saying things about you.
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There's this one person in the chat who like always has something say to say about you.
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And then they just revealed themselves to be like, and by the way, don't talk shit about
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See, when you're doing what we're doing, you're going to get pushback from, from people.
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I just want to focus on preaching the gospel, not getting a little bickering arguments.
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If somebody says what's up with hell, we just take the Bible, we say, this is what the
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You are a gangster and you are kind of like take a dominion and situations and stuff.
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Like I should have never had a platform like this to preach the gospel.
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The Raven was in the back dumpster, digging around, trying to find the punch cards with
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When I dumped the garbage in there, it was like, whoa.
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And somehow I got some platform to preach the gospel.
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I'm not coming down off the wall like Nehemiah's building to argue with people.
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I just thought it was funny because that, that one in particular person has a lot to
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say and I've seen him in the comments and I kind of remember the name and then I saw
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that and it was just a little bit of pull in the curtain aside.
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See, this is what's crazy though because they're like, don't talk shit about Jacob
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But I, but if Jacob Israel says something different from scripture, that's okay.
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But I think it would be very crazy to tell people there's no eternal fire and then come
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That would, of all the things that I wouldn't want to be held accountable before God for,
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Listen, I'll respect people until they don't respect me.
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And I feel like I did respect and show respect to him.
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Are you like beefing with him or whoever was in the chat?
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Uh, well, they don't know, but they're gone now.
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Um, but yeah, no, you just don't, don't disrespect, especially when it comes to like this, this
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Like it's very clear what's written in this book.
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And what I got from him in the messages was like basically heresy saying like, well, if
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you're reading the book, um, how do you know that that's completely true?
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It's kind of like inspired by, so you're playing this weird sleight of hand.
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So I hear things when I pray is like, well, what are you hearing dog?
00:42:06.000
Cause now what you're an authority on the, on the word of God that doesn't come through
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the Bible, but comes through your own interpretation from the spiritual, uh, inner inner inner.
00:42:14.000
And when you're talking to 200,000 people, this gets a little bit weird.
00:42:21.000
And I'm sorry to do this, but that's what we're doing.
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We're calling you out because you're leading people astray.
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And that's just not what we're going to have here.
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And then he's like, well, you're getting all mad.
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I was like, I wasn't really getting mad in the messages, but now I'm a little bit upset.
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He was writing you these long things and you were writing like a little two words.
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Like, I don't want to get sidetracked by this is all I'm saying.
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Like, I don't want to stop and bicker with people about stuff.
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If he thinks hell isn't a place to torture and we talk through it, who knows?
00:43:05.000
Maybe we would end up saying the same thing because people like to split hairs over definitions.
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Maybe he's going to come around and look at it differently.
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I've been very nice to the insults as of late and acting like, oh, yeah, you guys are this.
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But now is the time for me to not be courteous.
00:43:28.000
Now, this is like, I know a lot of people say, where did Top Lobster go?
00:43:35.000
I'm just peeking my head out and letting you know what it is.
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How do we get back to what we asked everybody if they want to do a study?
00:44:10.000
I would just say there's plenty of other people who specialize in End Time Prophecy.
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I'm very comfortable saying I don't know how this all unfolds in the End Times, man.
00:44:27.000
And I've been reading it, but I'm a slow reader, so I still haven't finished it.
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I haven't gotten to the part where he just blessed Job.
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I just got into the part where Job is like, fuck, man.
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And then you embarrassed me in front of your dad.
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Job is intriguing for this reason because, to me, it's intriguing for this reason.
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Job's buddies, like when they start arguing with Job, it's really like they've got flawless
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The things they're saying back to Job, Job is saying, no, no, these things aren't happening
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to me because of some wickedness that I've done.
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And they're saying, Job, no man is righteous before God.
00:45:10.000
Well, that's like flawless New Testament theology, bro.
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So these guys are right in the sense that the Pharisees were right.
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Nobody was beating the Pharisees in debates before Jesus, dude.
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Job's buddies had flawless doctrine and flawless theology, too.
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But they couldn't understand the situation in real time.
00:45:33.000
Some people have flawless theology and doctrine, but they don't understand like what's happening
00:45:39.000
So what do you think this is like it pertains to music?
00:45:45.000
If you're too caught up in the theory of music, you get trapped in this box where you can't
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You have to know the theory and then be able to come out of it and understand the real life
00:45:58.000
And some of these people are artistically caught into that book.
00:46:08.000
No, I'm talking about the biblical character, Jacob Israel.
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I want to ask you something because I'm reading through it.
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Is just like it's not up to you to understand the machinations of the Lord?
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I don't love it that they came to just be with them.
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And I think in the beginning it says they just sat with them in silence.
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But they sat there for seven days before they got pissy.
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But what I will admit is if I'm with you for a straight week, well, I guess your whole
00:46:46.000
If I'm with you for an extended period of time, at what point do I have the right or
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do I not have the right to be like, yo, dude, like get up and stop.
00:47:02.000
And we've probably all had buddies were like, bro, snap out of it.
00:47:05.000
Isn't that what you're supposed to do is like, say, Hey dude, it's time to, there's
00:47:12.000
And then there's a time to get up and dust yourself off and continue on.
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And if we get locked into it, like, can we, can we just summarize it?
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And then we can just like talk about it a little bit in the summary.
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And then cause I, cause I, this is like the one I actually read.
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Um, and, and, uh, daughters, three, seven sons, three daughters.
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Like he's, he's blessed pretty much in every way, shape or form.
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I don't know if he's in the council of angels yet, but, uh, Satan comes slinking in.
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I brought it up to you because I wasn't sure where they were meeting.
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When the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord and Satan came also among them.
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Cause if that's happening in a heavenly realm and they're supposed to be what?
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So logic tells us there has to be a first and second.
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It doesn't say there's not a fourth or fifth, but it, but it only alludes to three.
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Well, uh, so Satan, you know, he's like, yo, what's up?
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And Satan's like, they just came to meet for really no reason.
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But it's weird because the accuser just shows up like everything's cool.
00:48:56.000
He doesn't even like bring up like, Hey bro, how about all that stuff with Adam?
00:48:59.000
And this is what I respect about Nancy and the people in the back there.
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If there's somebody that doesn't belong in that Bible study, they're like, this is closed.
00:49:08.000
Remember the time they were like, you got to leave?
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They're like, Oh, you're not from our political party and have the same money and socioeconomic
00:49:16.000
We're praying for the Republican party right now, dog.
00:49:23.000
So let me see if I can keep, so, so Satan comes in and he's like, what you've been doing?
00:49:26.000
And Satan's like, Oh, I've been just like moseying around the earth, checking out creation,
00:49:42.000
So by the way, one of our, one of our listeners said that they, they run like the audio for
00:49:48.000
And their daughter is doing like the Christmas play, but they're reading from the Gen Z Bible,
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Maybe, but let me, let me try to muscle through this.
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So the Lord's like, yo, have you seen my, my servant Job?
00:50:09.000
And Satan's like, yeah, he crushes, but I mean, his life is pretty sweet.
00:50:11.000
I bet you if his life wasn't pretty sweet, he wouldn't crush so hard.
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Like you think that if we made, if we took away all of his blessings that he would curse
00:50:31.000
It's like, yeah, he's only serving you because of the prosperity gospel because of the benefit
00:50:37.000
The second you take away the benefits that he gets from serving you, he'll curse you
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It's a fair point because that does, that's the nature of man.
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I think it's intriguing that like, how could you ever get down with the prosperity gospel
00:50:57.000
He's only serving you because of the benefit and the gain he gets from it.
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Not because you're worthy of it because he wants the gain that he gets from it.
00:51:06.000
So maybe Satan thought, yeah, Job's just like the rest of them.
00:51:08.000
Take away his Lamborghini and all of his oxen and shit.
00:51:12.000
So, so basically God is like, all right, I'll take that bet.
00:51:20.000
His, his family gets, uh, flattened by a house.
00:51:24.000
Uh, his, I think a huge percentage of his herd, uh, ends up dying or something like that.
00:51:30.000
Uh, his, I think this is in their brother's house.
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Uh, but, but, uh, they end up, he ends up losing like a giant percentage of his oxen.
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I guess they, well, that's an intriguing thing.
00:51:46.000
There's a lot of stuff in Job that we're not like, it's, there's no reference to Abraham.
00:51:55.000
So it seems like some people just came and killed all their animals.
00:51:58.000
I seen a guy said it was before Adam, but I'm not getting into all that.
00:52:02.000
All of, all of, uh, Job's things that made him, you know, wealthy.
00:52:07.000
Well, look, the fire of God has fallen from heavens.
00:52:12.000
So there's stuff in this story that shows you that like Satan can control weather too.
00:52:16.000
Like, well, he's a, uh, he's a principality of, of the wind.
00:52:19.000
I know people don't like that, but like he, he had control over weather in this story.
00:52:23.000
Well, Job ends up all bumpy and nasty and childless cause they're all dead and everything
00:52:29.000
Are you saying the devil controlled the weather?
00:52:35.000
There came also another and said, the fire of God has fallen from heaven and it burned
00:52:38.000
up the sheep and the servants and consume them.
00:52:45.000
All these people keep coming to him and they're like, and only I escaped.
00:52:50.000
Don't you always say the Bible is like a great archetype for like movies and books
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and stuff where there's like one who's left to go and tell the story.
00:52:59.000
And a lot of the times you'll even see that in like a, you know, the bad guys will let
00:53:06.000
Verse 19 behold, there came a great wind from the, from the wilderness and smote the four
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corners of the house and it fell upon the young man and they're dead.
00:53:15.000
It's like, he's standing there and one dude comes running up with horrifying news.
00:53:20.000
Another dude comes running up with horrifying news and another dude, and it just keeps happening
00:53:29.000
Then Job arose and ripped his mantle in verse 20 and shaved his head and fell down upon the
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I don't think he had a guitar or drums or bass.
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No, it's just, you gotta begin to understand this dude.
00:53:45.000
Like it's not, it's not worship is music and music is worship.
00:53:53.000
Came out and started playing How Great Is Our God.
00:54:02.000
He ripped it and he took, he took like no identification with the natural realm.
00:54:05.000
He said, naked came I out of my mother's womb and naked shall I return.
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In all this Job sinned not nor charged God foolishly.
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And that's what we were talking about on the previous episode, charging God foolishly.
00:54:25.000
But I think, I think Adam charged God foolishly and there was, and Saul did as well.
00:54:33.000
Like that's basically what happens is like his long time friends show up and they try
00:54:40.000
I think for like seven days, we were saying earlier in the show, um, just being with them.
00:54:45.000
And then eventually they start on this big tirade against him for continuing to like mope
00:55:01.000
I wonder why they're, they're, they're meeting up.
00:55:06.000
Like they're, they're regularly like meeting up.
00:55:08.000
Why is, why is he allowed in the presence of God?
00:55:16.000
Well, this is cause I live on the earth, but like there's, there's stuff going on dude
00:55:21.000
This is the basis of a lot of like Gnostic principle that ends up coming to the conclusion
00:55:25.000
that, uh, Satan is a necessary adversarial spirit who has a job.
00:55:32.000
Maybe even Satan is a job title, like the adversary or the, the prosecutor.
00:55:40.000
And it's meant to, uh, basically test the metal of man that without this adversarial thing
00:56:00.000
That's the congregation of the lowercase g gods.
00:56:02.000
How long will you judge unjustly and accept the persons of the wicked?
00:56:05.000
These ones that rule over territories, they're, they're unjustly, uh, judging.
00:56:21.000
How long are you guys going to act like that and accept the persons of the wicked?
00:56:30.000
They know not, they know not neither will they understand.
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All the foundations of the earth are out of course.
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I have said you are gods and all you are children of the most high.
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Judge the earth for you shall inherit all nations.
00:56:54.000
So yeah, it looks like it's something similar to Psalm 82.
00:57:00.000
It's kind of like saying, what are they doing in the White House today?
00:57:03.000
Like they're all like, there's this governmental structure.
00:57:12.000
I'm not totally sure, but I know that there's a structure.
00:57:16.000
It is interesting, too, when you think about the way that Satan was cast out of the garden
00:57:21.000
and then the way Satan is then received in this moment.
00:57:27.000
Well, this starts to beg the question, is this the same Satan?
00:57:31.000
Because in the garden, he's stripped of his priestly robes and cast out and pretty much cursed.
00:57:38.000
And then this version that we see is kind of, doesn't seem to be the same level of anger.
00:57:48.000
I just think that's a characteristic of this dude, man.
00:57:50.000
If this creature, Satan, is that he's just like, he's not even addressing what went wrong.
00:58:07.000
The other thing is, if it's a title and you've stripped a previous entity of that title
00:58:12.000
and then given the title to something else because it's a necessary occupation.
00:58:16.000
That's kind of where there's a whole school of thought that says Satan, the adversary,
00:58:23.000
The one in the garden went too far, went beyond what he was allowed to do, was stripped of the title,
00:58:29.000
and then the title, then the mantle was passed on to something else, another entity.
00:58:34.000
No, in Revelation, it talks about that old serpent called the devil.
00:58:37.000
It looks like it's the same one, man, all along.
00:58:41.000
But if Michael Heiser thinks different, like...
00:58:43.000
I'm not sure if that's even what Heiser thinks.
00:58:48.000
But to me, it looks like it's the same guy all along.
00:58:54.000
He doesn't think the serpent in the garden and the Satan and Job are the same.
00:59:01.000
Well, also like when you're talking about the serpent, we're talking about the classification
00:59:04.000
of angel as seraphim, which is identified as like this.
00:59:06.000
I mean, people talk about like reptilians or dragons type thing.
00:59:13.000
But in Ezekiel or Isaiah, one of those prophecies we're talking about, he's the anointed cherub
00:59:21.000
Which then is like face of an oxen, face of a eagle, face of a man, and face of a lion.
00:59:44.000
So as far as I got was when I went through all of the different-
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I went through all of the different arguments where they're all chastising him.
00:59:53.000
And he's basically over and over again saying, no, you don't understand.
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Like I've not done anything to garner the wrath of the Lord.
01:00:01.000
And he's not cursing the Lord, but he's just, he's pissed off with them.
01:00:12.000
Well, God's almost mad at him for like allowing their dark counsel.
01:00:20.000
Because all I got to was when the young one is now decided to pipe up in all of his wisdom,
01:00:25.000
which is extra douchey because one of the dudes that came to counsel him or came to, you know, console him and then decided to counsel him is a young one.
01:00:33.000
And he's like, I have been silent this entire time and I have bore witness to your arguments and your arguments.
01:00:41.000
And he's like, you know, out loud, the youngest one there and kind of seems like a bigger douche.
01:00:53.000
Yeah, like in chapter 32, it says, so these three men ceased to answer Job because he was righteous in his own eyes.
01:01:00.000
We're not supposed to be righteous in our own eyes.
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Then was kindled the wrath of Elihu, the son of Barakal, the Buzite of the kindred of Ram.
01:01:07.000
Like, I don't know where all these places are against Job.
01:01:10.000
Against Job was his wrath kindled because he justified himself rather than God.
01:01:16.000
But but they just couldn't assess the situation in real time.
01:01:20.000
They just were assuming that he would have had to have transgressed and sinned in order for this thing to befall.
01:01:25.000
They had no idea what was going on between Satan and God.
01:01:28.000
And by Job saying like, no, I didn't do anything wrong to deserve this.
01:01:34.000
So their doctrine was right that no man's righteous before God.
01:01:37.000
But their assessment of the situation was wrong, that this was a result of his unrighteousness.
01:01:41.000
It's so crazy that they were like, yeah, Barakal, you know, the Buzite of the kindred Ram.
01:01:45.000
It's like like that means anything to anybody now.
01:01:52.000
Well, this is supposed to be one of the oldest books, right?
01:02:04.000
And Job was in his wrath kindled because he justified himself.
01:02:11.000
The other guy justified himself rather than God.
01:02:13.000
No, this guy is just making the point that like Job, you're not righteous.
01:02:18.000
And he and he's like mad at Job because of that, which again, it's it's not wrong doctrine.
01:02:25.000
People have like classroom doctrine, but it doesn't.
01:02:29.000
Like the word of God, the living word of God is supposed to bring you into a living relationship with the author of the Bible.
01:02:36.000
If it doesn't do that, then it's not doing what it's supposed to do.
01:02:42.000
This is going to be one of those episodes where after he goes, I don't want to do this anymore.
01:02:51.000
What happens when the young dude starts piping up?
01:03:00.000
Because this is the young dude, the last of the homies to pipe up.
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God says, then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind and said, who is this that darkens counsel by words?
01:03:20.000
Who is this you've been surrounding yourself with?
01:03:23.000
That darkens counsel by words without knowledge.
01:03:27.000
Is it to say, don't me and you already know each other?
01:03:31.000
It's also interesting because it's showing you something like sound doctrine without intimate knowledge of a situation isn't always going to.
01:03:39.000
Sometimes, bro, you got to know the Lord, man, and it doesn't matter if 10 out of 10 people are telling you you're wrong.
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Yeah, but then you ultimately start to live with him.
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And you know him just as much as you know your wife, just as much as you know your kids.
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In verse 3, chapter 38, verse 3, you have to be very close to the Lord for him to talk to you like this.
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Gird up your loins now like a man, for I'll demand of you an answer.
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Yeah, that's how God talks to people he's close to, man.
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He says, I know my sheep and my sheep know my voice.
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Like, you got to be really close to him and then he talks to you like this.
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You just let these dudes like do all this, darken your counsel.
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Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?
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You had this attack from like the strongest adversary and you succeeded and you let these guys come in and say all this?
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Like, Job, that's how much I'm tight with you, bro.
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He's saying, I put you up against the strongest adversary and you did great, Job.
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But the difference between Jesus and Job, Job won against Satan, but he murmured.
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Because a thing happens and then you murmur, dude.
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Jesus went up and won and never complained through any of it.
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There's a lot of murmuring into your talk and text, but please continue.
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You'd be like, why did you bring these guys here?
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I'm just saying I start complaining about, no, not anything with the podcast.
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I've been there for three months and it's only 70% done.
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I'm a little bit familiar with this scenario where God's like, oh, you poor little baby.
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How do you like all that unlimited food in your fridge, in your pantry, in your hot water,
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and cold water, and turn the temperature, any temperature you want in your house, in your
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car, and your whole family's healthy and doing well.
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And these cool dudes show up to your coffee shop and then you start a podcast.
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Hey, did you see what they did to me when I was down there?
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Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
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When the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy.
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That's why people didn't like you when you're like, oh, angels can't sing.
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When the morning stars sang together and the sons of God, that's angels, shouted for joy.
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To overcome, to be overcome, to cry, to shout out, to shout for joy.
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So that, I mean, this is why I think it doesn't necessarily say singing or like more like chanting.
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It's not 16 bars and a hook is what you're saying.
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It doesn't sound like what we would call music.
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I don't think heavenly music sounds like what we hear on the stage at the 501 C3 either.
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But we copy the world's way of doing music and we add in like Christian words and then
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I know you're not, dude, but I'm a lover of music, dude.
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Like coming from the heart and being able to use that artistic thing.
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No, that's, that's literally, that's where I dropped off.
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Didn't, weren't people like saying stuff in the chat?
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You want to talk about how Israel looks at eternity?
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This is how the Old Testament looks at eternity.
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Then Job answered the Lord and said, I know that you can do everything and that no thought
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Not even our thoughts can be held back from God.
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Who is he that hides counsel without knowledge?
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Therefore have I uttered things I didn't understand.
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I will demand of thee and declare thou unto me.
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I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye has seen thee.
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Wherefore I abhor myself and repent in dust and ashes.
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This is like when Isaiah says, he's in the throne room in Isaiah six.
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I heard about you by the hearing of the ear, but now I've seen you.
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Wherefore I abhor myself and repent in dust and ashes.
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And it was so that after the Lord had spoken these words unto Job, the Lord said unto Eliphaz the Temanite.
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My wrath is kindled against you and against your two friends.
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For you have not spoken to me the thing that is right as my servant Job has.
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And you're saying these guys had sound doctrine, but it was just like bad advice.
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Just like the Pharisees had me on like the Pharisees believed in eternal life.
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So like, as you look at the Pharisees and even their beef over the Sabbath, there's those same beefs today by people was like flawless doctrine about the Sabbath.
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And the question is, is God saying this to preachers today?
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Like Job was right all along, even though his friends had better doctrine than.
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Therefore, take unto you now seven bulls and seven rams.
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If that is a job title, you're walking a thin line when you take that job.
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Pastors, preachers, when you take that job, you're walking a very thin line like like you're given the responsibility to counsel the people.
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If you don't do it right, God's wrath is upon you.
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Why would you take it for temporary rewards is the question.
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This seems very clearly that we're not supposed to do that.
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Because it says at the end of the story, he lives another 140 years.
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But so pre-law, before the Levites, before the whole sacrificial system is set up, even before that.
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Therefore, take unto you now seven bulls and seven rams and go to my servant Job and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering.
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My servant Job will pray for you, for him will I accept, lest I deal with you after your folly.
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In that you have not spoken of me the thing which is right like my servant Job.
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So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Namathite.
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Went and did according as the Lord commanded them.
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It's almost like this is Job's last trial in the whole thing.
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It's almost like this is the end of the trial for Job.
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Like, bro, are you going to pray for these three?
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And I guess he knows more than me, even though he does a show about the supernatural, which
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And I think, I was like, I don't even, he said, don't pray for me.
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And everybody that messages me direct, they always talk about how you hold a grudge and it's
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But if you're wasting my time and we're not moving in the same direction, I'm just like,
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But keeping them, I'm going to keep you in my prayers.
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Sometimes like, as a matter of fact, I'm sorry, hold on a second.
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Daniel Aspden of the Patreon says, yo, that's not a good one.
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If you're expecting something sweet and caramel and then you get dill, that's bad.
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Daniel Aspden, he's spoken with us before, but he asked for prayers for his wife.
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Today we discovered that she has stage three cancer.
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So Daniel Aspden, his wife, I don't think he said her name because I haven't really followed
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But if you do pray, please do send a prayer for his wife.
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I swear, dude, when you start getting right with the Lord, these things attack you in the
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If you're in a war and two have become one, how is the most hardcore that the enemy can
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It's like, just go after God and let him resolve that.
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All things work together for good to those who love God and are called according to his
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Just lay your life at his feet and say, look, I'm here.
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If something goes wrong with the, with the building here.
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Like, like Lord, my body, my life, everything belongs to you.
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So when everything goes wrong, Lord, like this is in your hands to deal with just like
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And then we just roll with that and we don't get sidetracked.
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We don't get in these arguments with people that are, you know, whatever.
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Like, why would we stop doing what we're doing to get in arguments with other people?
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And I think we, I think we staved off these other people.
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Hey, Gary, the numbers guy, you're a fat bitch.
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I hope you're getting something out of this, this Bible study that we're doing.
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Hopefully you learn something from the previous episode with Matt.
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But yeah, I think, I think the laughter is, is good.
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You, you're going through it right now, but we're thinking about you and your wife.
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If she's a fan of the show, if she's not, then whatever.
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This stuff they call the cancer and like the other stuff, it's rough down here, bro.
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And there's poison and toxic stuff like that we're taking in from the air, from the food,
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And it's causing like these crazy things in the body.
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I'm just glad like this isn't the eternal realm.
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If you come to the Standard Coffee slash NDS, don't touch the...
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And the Lord turned the captivity of Job when he prayed for his friends.
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Also, the Lord gave Job, like this is where he set him free.
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He returned the captivity of Job when he prayed for his friends.
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Also, the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before.
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Now I'm going to make you like a physical body.
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Like the fact that we have this story in the scripture is the ultimate haymaker against Satan.
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If he triumphs over Satan in this way, do you think Satan still has access to him afterward?
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Because you talked about like the enemies before.
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I think he's like, imagine you go at some guy and you're throwing haymakers at him.
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And the guy comes back and is like, is that all you got?
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I don't think Satan's messing with this dude anymore, bro.
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I think he's like, okay, let's just go on to the next guy.
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But I'm saying he's got to let him tee off on him.
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I think your boy read the passage from James to...
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What did he say in James where he said like, resist the devil and he'll flee?
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So after all this, I think Satan just bounced, bro.
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I was like, yeah, let's not mess with that guy anymore.
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And the Lord turned the captivity of Job when he prayed for his friends.
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Also, the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before.
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Every time I read this, I read this story and he gives him twice as much.
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Ooh, maybe this one's stronger and she can carry more and do more dishes.
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Then came there unto him all his brethren and all his sisters and all that they had been
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of his acquaintance before and did eat bread with him in his house and they bemoaned
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him and comforted him over all the evil that the Lord had brought upon him.
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So sometimes the Lord brings evil upon you through Satan or through some other way.
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Would this verse imply that Satan is still an angel of God then?
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Everything is under the authority of God in the end.
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Yeah, it looks like this story is when, I mean, yeah, I don't think we have anything
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in the scripture that's like before the rebellion of Satan.
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No, but I'm saying like when I read this though, it doesn't look like he's rebelling.
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Like, I bet if I do this and God goes, go ahead.
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But yeah, but it's intriguing because God brought it up.
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Like God was like, God's not in a war with Satan.
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God stood all powerful, completely in control of everything.
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He does whatever he wants, whenever he wants, however he wants.
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You know how like when mixed martial arts teams try to put their guy against another
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guy, but they want to make it somebody that's going to win.
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He's like, yeah, I'll put my guy up against you.
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Are there any other scriptures in the Bible where Satan, Lucifer, this entity are allowed
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I know like Psalm 82, God judges the angels, but like, is there a precedent for them being
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Well, I mean, Satan just did at the beginning of this.
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There's the passages in Isaiah and Ezekiel where it's talking about where Lucifer wanted
01:21:08.000
Um, like once you kicked out of God's glory, can you go, and I know this is extra canonical,
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but in the book of Enoch, these guys go through Enoch to talk to God.
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It doesn't seem that way in the scripture because it seems like in Psalms 82, they're
01:21:29.000
So they're like, oh, Enoch, you righteous scribe.
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I don't know a ton about Enoch off the top of my head.
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I've read it a couple of times, but I don't, I remember thinking it was kind of boring.
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I remember thinking like the first couple of chapters were good and then it got boring.
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The rest of them, like two and three are weird.
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You should read, uh, Timothy Albarino's version.
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So the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning.
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Because in the beginning he had, he had 3,000 camels.
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I'm not saying that, but I like when you guys start to brainstorm.
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Are you talking about bringing him back from the dead?
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I was simply making the point that humans are eternal.
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Because in the eternal realm, he will have double.
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The humans, he gives them the exact same amount.
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But in the eternal realm, he'll have 20 children.
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So do you think that he gave them his family back?
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I never thought that, but I like where you're going with that.
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Who am I to tell you like, no, I'm right, you're wrong.
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It's good to meditate on these things and think about it.
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If Aiden and Bella weren't around, you'd be like, this sucks.
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I want to try to read it real quick because I want to try to...
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And the Lord turned the captivity of Job when he prayed for his friends.
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And also the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before.
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But I guess if you're talking about like in heaven, sure, like he will meet them later.
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Yeah, it sucks for the next hundred years or whatever that you don't have them, but then you do have them in the eternal realm.
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And Job, if you remember in the beginning, he's like doing sacrifices for his kids in case they've sinned.
01:24:41.000
Like that was the most dear to Job's heart was his...
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I mean, dude, there's passages that talk about the children being sanctified because of the parents.
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But then Jesus talks about the rich man that's in hell and he's like, you know, send my brothers or whatever.
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No, if they won't listen to the scriptures, they're not going to listen if one comes back from the dead.
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In the Old Testament, did they have a concept of eternal life?
01:25:28.000
Because the reference we made earlier to David's son that he said, I'll go be with him.
01:25:37.000
This story right here says that he got double all the animals, but he got the same amount of humans.
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That says that they knew about eternal life because in the eternal realm, now he will have double.
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Is that what that means or is this in the physical realm?
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Because it says, so the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than he's beginning.
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So he receives seven sons and three daughters in the physical realm.
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But when he gets to the eternal realm, now it's double.
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Because now he has the ones back who already passed.
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I mean, it's a point that a man wants to die and after that the judgment, so I don't know if they can come back to life.
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Because he called the name of the first one Aunt Jemima.
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Yeah, but I don't ever want to stop you from meditating on stuff and daydreaming about it.
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The second one, Kezia, which is actually interesting.
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In the show, David, King's Souls, Concubine is Kezia.
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Well, God, I don't know how I'm going to figure that out.
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I bet you if I try to play it here, though, it wouldn't.
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Well, I could play it maybe through here, and maybe they can hear it.
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get the thing off your face is it wrapped up on your face okay now we're now we're now we're good
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no the mic's hot dude you can say stuff yeah is that my secret thing no let's stop let's stop
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all right fine you can't sit there you got anything to say guys did you like that song
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give it you want to give us a bible verse real quick before you go all right real quick
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into the mic philippians 413 you can do all things through christ who strengthens you
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and apparently we can go to jail because i'm pretty sure he's underage uh let's go c drain
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unbelievable unbelievable guys you did you like that that shit crushed right that was um
01:31:47.900
what's his name uh dallas spitfire on x dude that i mean that song was super dope did you like that
01:31:55.800
song matt it's pretty good dude you just like no initially i was like what is this like somebody
01:32:00.280
just made a song and then the more i listened to it i was like bro dude i thought it was gonna be
01:32:04.180
when the chick's voice comes in it's good because you'd ever know when the shadows yeah it goes hard
01:32:10.300
when the i'm not really a huge fan of uh of uh you know when the whites rap but it was uh it was
01:32:17.900
really good shout out 41 too dude don't just say white rappers that's my boy that's not you don't
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even know that guy okay uh hey uh f-o-j-c-t-k-o says uh yo yo my lovely dangerous retards and sweet
01:32:34.880
matt with five t's why is there so many t's uh do you think luke 10 18 already happened has satan
01:32:40.940
been cast out of heaven let's go i don't know man that's an intriguing one like he's clearly
01:32:46.600
in the mix so what exactly he crushes what exactly is that where jesus says i saw satan uh fall from
01:32:54.600
the sky fall is that luke 10 18 my teeth are too big he said um uh i beheld satan as lightning fall
01:33:03.560
from heaven i don't know i really don't know man click i mean also shout out to dylan the electrician
01:33:09.440
he's arguing with somebody in the youtube chat um about what is he i don't know but he's watching
01:33:14.480
the show dude my head is so bad and he's arguing with somebody about it do you have a headache
01:33:19.520
medication in this thing because i'm like because revelation 12 not how do you know that because i
01:33:24.440
see you take it all the time dude why i never take it i never ever take you've been keistering
01:33:28.560
them for a while no i have it on hand for employees i never personally take that stuff i just see them
01:33:33.220
up there it has to be so crazy for me to take something like that it's gotten crazy i don't know you okay
01:33:37.520
man yeah i'm fine you know he's not okay i don't know in regards to luke uh the 10 18 passage
01:33:43.800
revelation 12 9 says and the great dragon was cast out that old serpent called the devil that old
01:33:49.100
see that see that's the reference i was making earlier that like it looks like it's the same
01:33:52.800
character uh in the garden that great dragon was cast out that old serpent called the devil in satan
01:33:58.440
which deceives the whole world and he was cast out into the earth and his angels were cast out with
01:34:03.240
them so i don't know it makes you think that like this clearly already happened like like this
01:34:09.260
already happened yeah uh luke 10 18 and he said unto them i beheld satan his lightning falling from
01:34:14.100
heaven like it already happened like it already like because because i think the context as they
01:34:18.420
come back they say yo you won't believe what we just did they say the 70 return again with joy
01:34:23.080
saying lord even the demons are subject on us through your name he said yeah man because my name is the
01:34:28.240
name above all names bro like satan thought he was the man but i saw him fall like lightning from
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heaven behold i give to you power that's what jesus does he doesn't take power away from us he
01:34:37.520
gives us power he says let me ask you something let me ask you something if music if music doesn't
01:34:41.580
like pertain to worship and all that how come these are called verses oh how come psalms reads
01:34:48.380
like a song because it is a song how come genesis 1 is literally is music what did that music sound
01:34:55.700
like is the big question like if you want to talk about that like that's the big question is what did
01:35:00.240
the book of psalms sound like hell yeah i think that'd be rad to know but you know what even more
01:35:06.460
than that there's freedom in music if it sounds different today that's okay like there's freedom
01:35:10.180
in music i'm just saying and i know you guys know i'm right about this the music is corny in church
01:35:14.660
it's corny it's just the same as worldly music it's 16 bars and a hook or whatever it is it follows
01:35:19.820
the exact same model and they just use like so-called christian words in the music so i know you i hate
01:35:25.700
when you agree with me but you want like me to argue to prove your point i'm not agreeing with
01:35:30.800
this is brought to you by ella's popcorn ella's popcorn is uh made with maltode coconut oil i
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want to read those it's good and good for you non-gmo gluten-free and delicious uh my favorite is
01:35:44.840
the delicious uh uh popcorn i didn't want to say this i want don't do that this is a you just hit
01:35:52.140
my camera he doesn't care about the space though that's what's very weird about this is we went
01:35:55.860
through i'm owning my space to make this uh studio like happen and then he just comes in and trash
01:36:00.640
you didn't do anything you put up two things of wallpaper no i went strong on the wallpaper and you
01:36:04.440
know it i wanted to say we got uh we got a follower a sub to the patreon hell yeah named brandon lake
01:36:14.860
you're talking about people who make wanker music shout out to music no it's a good music i don't know if
01:36:20.620
this is the same brandon lake no it is dude if it is that would be crazy it is that dude's making
01:36:27.000
like real deal stuff z-man did you see we gave you a shout out as soon as the show started about the
01:36:31.720
laser because you're the best dude and you got us a laser and we love you for it
01:36:34.840
yes revelation 12 12 satan knows his time is short after the fall yeah but i mean what does that mean
01:36:44.960
like he's got a week or he's got 2 000 years or like no matter what his time's short dude he's got
01:36:51.340
like as far as eternity goes this is this little blip on the radar this little time on the earth man
01:36:56.220
also the like time works differently like we were talking about 10 000 years what's in your throat
01:37:00.760
clear your throat before you talk to us get the bubble out my wife wants me to buy pizza because
01:37:05.180
i don't know i can eat no i'm not just because i ate popcorn doesn't mean that i'm going to eat a
01:37:10.620
pizza and popcorn is okay carbs not pizza pizza's bad before we go off the rails i just want to make
01:37:17.340
sure we got to everybody's stuff that everybody wanted us to get oh that's right didn't we say
01:37:21.240
we were going to like answer people's stuff a lot of other things they want malachi you guys want
01:37:25.960
to take a dive into malachi real quick no i want to do these things justice um okay but malachi was
01:37:31.180
one of the ones dude the book of job judas oh this is an interesting one judas being possessed in
01:37:37.880
john 13 27 yeah that is an intriguing one because um we kind of have an understanding that um satan
01:37:46.660
entered him right okay well it is kind of gay but yes okay yeah can we pull it up yeah yeah i don't
01:37:53.840
want to see that so so satan entered him because i think we have the understanding or i do that um
01:37:59.420
angels have a body already that's not who's like invading human bodies it's demons that are
01:38:07.880
invading human bodies because they don't have bodies they're disembodied spirits that's how
01:38:11.860
they're able to get into a human body to fulfill their um loss and their cravings they acted out
01:38:17.080
through humans so like a parasite to your point they need a host so satan like getting into somebody
01:38:24.840
i don't know that's like on another level it's almost like him and judas made a deal ahead of
01:38:29.680
time that somehow which which seems like what's going to go down with the antichrist too is that
01:38:34.300
he's going to be empowered by satan the antichrist is going to be empowered by satan and so the
01:38:38.660
antichrist is some dude he's just some dude but he's going to be empowered by satan almost like he
01:38:42.700
made a deal with him too the same way judas did i don't know that that's a weird one to unpack
01:38:47.420
you think this is a there's any correlation here jesus answered uh he it is to whom i shall give a
01:38:52.980
sop i guess like bread that he's dipped in something right uh when i have dipped it and
01:38:59.000
when he when he had dipped in the sop he gave it to jesus to judas iscari the son of simon and
01:39:05.020
after the sop satan entered into him oh so you're saying like judas ate the bread like it's like a wet
01:39:12.200
bread though i don't know well well because hold on he it is to whom i shall give a sop when i have
01:39:19.480
dipped it are we talking about so small eating the bread and you know like the body of christ
01:39:25.760
we don't know we don't know what that's getting at because he makes statements sometimes and then
01:39:29.640
we don't we don't know he'll be saying shit uh i'm just saying so jesus gives him this sop of bread
01:39:34.680
he dips it and then he gives it to judas iscariot and after the sop i guess after he dips it or
01:39:42.080
after he eats it satan enter entered into judas like it didn't happen until jesus gave the okay
01:39:47.300
boom yeah he's like that's it you're gone then now that satan's in him then jesus said as almost as
01:39:53.020
as you have to say to satan not to judas yeah hey bro me and you have had this beef for a lot
01:39:58.220
of years now you got to do this thing you're gonna do do it quick yeah like he's talking to satan when
01:40:04.880
he says that like he's already taken over that's what i don't but i don't know that doesn't seem like
01:40:09.020
a normal thing or as normal as when jesus is casting out demons on like a regular basis
01:40:14.700
that seems like something different this is something different than just demonic uh manifestation
01:40:21.000
or somebody being demonized this sounds like something different now like do you think it
01:40:26.160
was judas just because judas uh just happened to be the guy or like could this have been any of the
01:40:33.920
other 12 like is this random or is there something inside of judas because i mean the scripture teaches
01:40:38.200
that uh everything happens according to the foreknowledge of god so god doesn't see through
01:40:42.640
time he sees all of time at once he knows human hearts he knows who everybody is according to his
01:40:48.560
foreknowledge and just like in the same way pharaoh like if it was somebody other than pharaoh they would
01:40:55.500
have repented after like the second plague or the third plague or the fourth plague right but god's
01:40:59.920
purposes had to be fulfilled in egypt so he needed a character that wouldn't repent after 10 plagues
01:41:05.000
including all the firstborn in egypt so in a certain sense it was like he was the perfect guy to put in
01:41:10.720
that role so like judas for whatever reason we can look at his character he was a thief and he had the
01:41:15.880
bag he uh he sold out jesus for 30 pieces of silver so he was all about money like yeah there was this
01:41:22.060
certain characteristic in judas that was the perfect one because what does the passage say where it says that
01:41:29.380
if they knew what they were doing they never would have crucified the lord of glory there was this
01:41:33.240
chess game going on where like he had to be sold out in that way so that they would crucify him or
01:41:38.980
satan thought he was winning but actually he lost when he did that so they had to have a human that
01:41:45.060
would open themselves up to satan like that that would be willing to do it doesn't doesn't judas also
01:41:49.780
get crucified himself i don't know about crucified he goes and hangs himself but then it says his bowels
01:41:54.880
gush out well that's what happens upside down i don't know dude i don't have a specialist on that
01:41:59.880
but it looks like he goes and hangs himself it says he comes back to the pharisees and he throws the
01:42:04.400
money down and he says i you know this is a just man or something like they're like what is that
01:42:07.960
they even say it they're like what is that to us bro that's between you and god but it doesn't say
01:42:12.240
anything about him repenting before god it doesn't matter if you go and repent before the man like
01:42:15.740
did you go and repent before god which i we're just opening a can of worms with that whole discussion
01:42:20.800
but then he goes and hangs himself and poops himself and but it's weird yeah because like
01:42:24.920
that's a bizarre thing that his bowels gush out well that's actually pretty common when people die
01:42:30.180
they shit them pants okay yeah i didn't know that then that makes more sense yeah i don't know if
01:42:36.760
everybody does maybe that's like he didn't buy a field they went and bought a field with the money
01:42:40.880
who's that blap juice blap juice blap juice so he so he throws the money down and then these
01:42:47.680
righteous pharisees say oh well we can't this is blood money so we have to go buy the field of
01:42:52.180
blood with it they're like doing something they're like doing they're doing something they think is
01:42:57.060
righteous they're like this money was bought with blood so let's just go buy a field with they're
01:43:00.760
doing something talmudic yeah that's like uh i don't know what that is dude no no that's about
01:43:06.200
the jews no it's like making a loophole well we can't use it for this but we could buy right right
01:43:10.780
just like when they go to crucify them but they don't want to go in before is it before herod or
01:43:14.860
pontius pilate because they want to be defiled on a feast day as they're killing god yeah bro it's
01:43:20.540
like it's like the peak of hypocrisy when it's the organized religious institution that claims to
01:43:26.260
represent god killing god you understand why this is very hard for me not to mock right uh the tendency
01:43:34.060
to to do that i think it's very funny when you die that's natural that's natural oh boy what are
01:43:41.680
all these notes that you write down don't touch his bible bunch of notes no i don't care bro i
01:43:46.860
love if you read the notes now i don't want to read them okay so we're in malachi now no no no
01:43:52.300
actually why are you avoiding malachi can i just bring up like one passage but they asked so you're
01:43:58.400
kind of like getting into the same thing um the next question here was time travel in the bible
01:44:02.640
question mark exclamation come on don't know let's not well you just mentioned it because god god is
01:44:07.360
seeing things all at once well think about these angels like it says in hebrews where it says like
01:44:12.100
um be careful entertaining strangers unaware because some have entertained angels i think i
01:44:16.600
didn't say that passage right but it's something to that extent like be careful with strangers uh it's
01:44:21.200
in hebrews 13 because some have entertained angels unaware so like say an angel looks like a human
01:44:28.480
because because they're just saying it looks just like a stranger like that that human looking angel
01:44:35.320
can pop in and out of time at different spots on the timeline
01:44:38.820
where is it at uh 13 to be uh be not forgetful to entertain strangers for thereby some have
01:44:46.260
entertained angels unawares yeah yeah so those human looking entities can pop in and out of the
01:44:52.860
timeline when do you think i think the best uh justification for time travel is the judgment
01:45:01.240
on on the great the great white throne where he's he's judging every i think everybody gets judged at
01:45:06.600
the same time i think you die i would hope so because that seems like a really long line i mean
01:45:11.920
i guess you're gonna wait but there is like a waiting place right the you're saying hell is like
01:45:15.760
kind of like a holding place yeah i mean that story of in luke of the rich man and lazarus and there's a
01:45:20.780
great gulf between them there's a great gulf between them some people say that's a parable no
01:45:24.660
problem even if it's a parable that's fine but but the but what's being said is is still being said
01:45:29.740
that there's this gulf that uh the one dude the uh lazarus the who was the poor man is in abraham's
01:45:35.760
bosom he's chilling with abraham and the dude on the other side is saying hey send lazarus uh like
01:45:41.360
with some water to dip the cool of my tongue in it and he says no no man there's this great gulf in
01:45:46.160
between us you can't go back and forth we're in the holding tank right now now exactly when did that
01:45:49.980
holding tank get cleared out i mean when jesus was resurrected i don't know i got too much in my brain
01:45:58.660
to like unpack this right now like i feel like i normally have this off the top of my head what
01:46:02.020
do you think about this though so i wonder because it's it's you know you only die once what we
01:46:08.060
perceive as ghosts unless it's actually yellow uh unless it's sent by god if you're born once you
01:46:13.720
die twice if you're born twice you die once right right but like a physical death in this realm we die
01:46:20.340
once yeah what we perceive as a ghost is likely some familiar spirit posing as your ancestor stone tape
01:46:27.520
theory your ancestor or something like that just ignore me so what i'm wondering is do you die
01:46:35.220
and then is it the next thing that you perceive your own judgment afterwards i don't know they're
01:46:42.140
like no i mean for that dude he's in he's in the realm of the dead if you will like the like
01:46:46.600
lazarus he's there he's there's something happening he's just in the realm of the dead i really don't
01:46:50.560
know time doesn't work to be absent from the body is to be present with the lord so like somehow
01:46:56.100
we're with the lord like when we pass if we want to pull up that passage like i said i don't have
01:46:59.980
this stuff off the top of my head but jesus is at the right hand of the father so if we're absent
01:47:05.280
from the body we're present with the lord we're somehow in that eternal realm with him and it
01:47:08.960
looks like we're held in like a holding place if you will and then uh those who are not saved by grace
01:47:16.340
through faith are held somewhere else until like the final resurrection and then there's a new heavens and
01:47:21.200
new earth and then we are part of that new heavens and new earth and those who are not saved by grace
01:47:26.720
through faith like we read earlier they're ultimately cast into the lake of fire it's like is that all
01:47:32.360
happening already right now what do you mean like is that i don't know is that's the time is the flat
01:47:38.220
disc doesn't seem like no it seems like you know when the great white throne judgment happens that we
01:47:44.120
read about that we just read about in revelation 20 and everything gets thrown in the lake of fire and
01:47:47.560
then there's the bema seat it's two different words the judgment there's the um there's the judgment
01:47:52.080
that happens at the great white throne and then there's another judgment that's for the believers
01:47:56.920
paul says um you know we will be judged and then that's that one corinthians is it 15 where he talks
01:48:03.260
about that like all of our works will be tried by fire some of it will be um gold silver precious
01:48:09.140
stones and some of it will be wood hay and stubble but it's all going to get tried by fire which is
01:48:13.180
something separate from salvation because they do with wood hay and stubble it all gets burned yet he himself
01:48:17.200
will be saved but all his works are burned by fire but then other people will have gold silver and
01:48:22.000
precious stones that will remain it looks like that's the judgment for us it's like a reward
01:48:26.260
ceremony for eternity do you think that the the two witnesses are enoch and elijah i don't know
01:48:33.720
whatever dude i'm totally comfortable saying i don't know i think there's great arguments that
01:48:37.800
it's enoch and elijah there's great arguments that it's moses and elijah but moses does die right
01:48:44.240
or else there wouldn't be an argument over his body i mean that's an intriguing one nobody knows
01:48:49.040
where it's at he shows up on the mount of transfiguration with jesus and elijah like that's
01:48:53.480
intriguing because that's before the resurrection nobody can be resurrected until jesus is because
01:48:57.960
he's the first fruits he's the firstborn of the dead so i don't know i don't know i don't it's i don't
01:49:05.040
know there's a strong argument if you if you watch if you watch a video on the two witnesses being the
01:49:12.060
church and israel there's a lot of strong argument in that i'm not saying i believe that i'm not saying
01:49:17.300
that in any way shape or form i'm just saying just like flat earth or any of these other things
01:49:21.180
a lot of people can put together a lot of passages to spell out whatever they want to spell out and
01:49:27.720
i've seen strong arguments that it's the church in israel is the two witnesses some people say the top
01:49:32.420
and raven are the two witnesses those people are retarded shout out to scott scott is retarded
01:49:38.220
somebody said that madeline said i hope not scott yeah i hope not it's just yeah i don't know i
01:49:43.980
get the inclination of like when these entities are judged when god casts judgment on them that it's
01:49:49.980
like right there and then but he's casting like it's almost like a future judgment but it's also
01:49:54.780
right there so on angels you're saying yeah so it's happened but it has not happened yet but it's
01:50:00.120
happened sure does that make any sense yeah yeah like in the eternal realm like they know it's a
01:50:04.720
done deal in the spirit realm they're just on like borrowed time right now trying to bring as many
01:50:09.440
people with them as they can that's what i'm saying like we're going to hell and we're burning in the
01:50:13.080
lake of fire forever let's grab as many humans as we can on the way if you're in that spiritual realm
01:50:17.240
where time has uh happened already time is happening now and will happen you've been judged in all of
01:50:24.480
these things and now they not maybe that's why they kind of yearn to be in this physical realm where it's
01:50:28.800
like time's moving slower we can kind of like there's an element of we're in a war and they're
01:50:32.640
in a war with god and they hate god and they can't go to war against god but if we're created in his
01:50:36.720
image and in his likeness and there's a man in the godhead jesus that like it's we're very similar and
01:50:43.320
he knows how how dear we are to his heart as many of us as we can as they can drag with them into the
01:50:48.820
lake of fire like that's their goal they're not going down without a fight um so we have uh john
01:50:55.380
diaz sent a rumble ran he said uh did you guys check revelation 12 10 about satan being in the
01:51:01.800
presence of god daily and i think i look at it no that's not what i have oh you want to pull that up
01:51:09.500
i'll pull that up and then i think we should wrap because i got a i got a headache what yeah i feel
01:51:15.240
like we were just getting started why are you so anti-malachi stop and i heard a loud voice saying
01:51:20.860
in heaven now salvation and strength in the kingdom of our god and the power of of his christ
01:51:26.480
for the accuser of our brethren is cast down which accused them before our god day and night yeah
01:51:31.360
good good point whoever that was that brought that up that was uh that's john diaz that's basically like
01:51:35.820
the um thank you john like the story in job i mean it's exactly that like the accuser of our brethren
01:51:41.120
who is cast down which accused them before our god day and night before our god so he's he's allowed
01:51:46.880
which is what happened in the book of job yeah he comes before god and he accuses job and it looks
01:51:52.400
like he's doing this all the time okay so that that means that like the the pre-adamite um time frame
01:51:59.140
of job i don't think that yeah it's weird though because think about what satan does i shouldn't
01:52:04.320
even have brought that up now what satan does in the garden are you listening are you listening
01:52:07.280
yeah what satan does in the garden is he's trying he's tempting adam and eve or he's specifically eve
01:52:13.780
to to transgress to sin to disobey god right this is what he's trying to do he's doing the same thing
01:52:20.200
in job where he's trying to coax job into you know cursing god um and then you you have this same
01:52:28.620
instance here in revelation 12 where he's how is it put uh you bring that up using our brethren day
01:52:34.360
and night right was how it was so it's like it's the same job so he's not cast out of the title he's
01:52:42.160
just cast out of the garden cast out of the title what do you mean and he's got the same exact job
01:52:47.500
he's been doing the same exact thing and it does seem like a job when you see him in the presence
01:52:53.080
of god and they're talking about joe well i don't know it looks like maybe job maybe i'm using the
01:52:58.180
wrong word something changed in the garden like he got man who was king of planet earth to rebel against
01:53:05.020
god if you will like that's what he got him to do that was the whole study we did today was that
01:53:08.700
he got man to decide for himself what's good and evil as opposed to just being fully dependent on
01:53:13.880
god so that was what he did there and then he got punished for that and it looks like from that time
01:53:19.940
on his role did become a little bit different i mean i don't know i don't know like what exactly was
01:53:25.260
going on in the garden he only had adam and eve to go against as far as we know as we know that's who
01:53:30.400
that's all he's going against in that story we don't know exactly what else was going on outside of
01:53:34.520
the garden we don't know maybe he wasn't um i guess maybe there's like a difference between the
01:53:39.860
punishment like god's like you'll crawl on your belly you'll eat men there's maybe there's a
01:53:44.700
difference between the punishment and the fallen angel aspect maybe that happens to satan after it
01:53:49.520
seems like angels fall when they accept worship did he accept worship here or did he just like
01:53:54.300
transgress against one of god's rules like he probably has specific rules of what he can do
01:53:59.580
when he's tempting right right and in a sense is adam worshiping him now by pledging allegiance to
01:54:05.260
him by saying like i know god told me this but i'm pledging allegiance to satan now god says okay
01:54:10.480
it's an interesting thought and is that really what it is if it when you say no i'll determine for
01:54:17.360
myself what's good and evil god says okay you're pledging allegiance to satan then if you trust me
01:54:21.560
completely you trust me completely then you're on my team anything else if you're like no i'm i'll decide
01:54:28.440
for myself what's good and evil like i'll handpick through the bible i'll handpick through other books
01:54:32.800
and i'll kind of make god in my own image as opposed to god making me in his image he says okay no
01:54:37.320
problem but you're pledging allegiance to satan when you do that because he's the original rebel
01:54:41.500
and now you're just going with the rebellion well what is worship right worship is when you're
01:54:46.240
ascribing it's guitar bass and drums it's a laser light fog machine a bridge and a verse no it's it's when
01:54:52.820
you ascribe uh worth to something when you're saying something is worth this so if you're not giving that to
01:54:57.960
god you're giving that something else so if they're ascribing the idolatry as well like that's a description
01:55:03.080
of idolatry yeah something that you put before god but the advice of satan if they're ascribing
01:55:07.900
worth to that they're giving that worship in a sense and there you go maybe i don't know okay just
01:55:15.380
watch this though because this is a major passage in malachi 3 16 it says then they that feared the
01:55:20.720
lord spoke off and one to another and the lord hearkened and heard it and a book of remembrance
01:55:25.100
was written before him for them that feared the lord and that thought upon his name and they shall
01:55:29.880
be mine say it the lord of hosts in that day when i make up my jewels and i'll spare them as a man
01:55:33.960
spares his own son that serves him i love that dude i love the reality that they that feared the lord
01:55:40.780
spoke off and one to another and the lord hearkened and heard it in a book of remembrance was written
01:55:46.180
before him for them that feared the lord and that thought upon his name this was so intriguing to me
01:55:51.760
because i realized like people never talk about god man i remember anytime i'd be in a construction
01:55:57.600
trailer like when especially when i first got converted and i'd start talking i'd say the name
01:56:01.200
jesus or i'd say bible passages like the whole construction trailer would go silent you could
01:56:06.300
talk about anything in a construction trailer you talk about anything dude you start mentioning jesus
01:56:10.780
or the bible and people go silent and everything gets weird in the room and i always thought that was
01:56:16.720
strange i was like huh the whole planet was like created by god like this is his whole creation
01:56:21.700
and if we honor him and respect him and just talk to one another about it there's this bad vibe
01:56:26.840
dude there's like this weird thing where the room actually changes and i love this passage because
01:56:31.340
it says yeah the people that do that the people that fear the lord they speak often one to another
01:56:36.120
and the lord listens the lord hearkened and heard it in a book of remembrance was written before
01:56:41.460
him for them that feared the lord and that thought upon his name that spoke about him amongst each
01:56:45.780
other like there's angels like watching our conversations very closely and they've got like
01:56:51.420
a pen and paper and they're and they're writing out for this book of remembrance they're like yo
01:56:55.520
these guys are on your team god like they're down there in the earth realm talking about you even
01:56:59.600
though it's not beneficial to them to do it like they're still doing it are these like watcher angels
01:57:04.780
what is this i don't know somebody somebody's it doesn't even say angels but it says somebody's
01:57:09.620
writing it what do you think about somebody who is close to you but has a it was written before him
01:57:17.220
yeah so it's written and then given to him i'm sorry no no it's all right the book is saying if
01:57:21.440
somebody wants to talk about malachi it's at least just do those two verses we don't have to do the
01:57:24.600
whole book because the whole book's wild dude the whole book's wild they're robbing god we should do
01:57:29.380
the whole book but we can a book of remembrance was written before him so yeah you're right somebody
01:57:33.680
is like taking notes yeah yeah that's what i'm saying like the unseen realm is more real than the
01:57:38.160
than the seen realm and they're watching and they're keeping records sorry to cut you off
01:57:43.360
god i'm gonna keep that god's gonna read it i'm gonna keep it he's got to read the transcript of
01:57:48.000
this podcast oh yeah we should be mindful of that even sometimes rebuke us in the chat people rebuke us
01:57:53.520
um because they talk about yeah they do man they talk about how god will judge every idle word
01:57:57.920
no they don't that's fine hopefully god laughs a little bit of this you understand the intent
01:58:02.720
um and he goes and then and they shall be mine say the lord of hosts in that day when i make
01:58:08.080
up my jewels and i will spare them as a man spareth his own son that serveth him look at
01:58:13.280
what atma said the 327 on top atma even though she's the best actually i'm not convinced that
01:58:20.320
she i feel like no i know who atma is i know but what if he had another chick call in and pretend to
01:58:26.720
be atma like there's layers to well i remember i know who atma is i remember even though their
01:58:30.960
doctrine is wrong and they're retarded they love you god they literally can't shut up about you
01:58:34.960
what an honorable thing to say that's based i appreciate that that's kind of what i know
01:58:39.040
we're going for i know who the girl is that's such a neat thing to say man all right can we bring it
01:58:44.320
in for landing because my head is thumping and i'm sweating and and literally just getting started
01:58:48.240
i think it's the green i like it we should do more green it is weird they want us to cover the story
01:58:53.360
of nimrod please uh there's not a lot about him in the scripture so i don't have a ton about him but
01:58:58.240
it is a super intriguing topic nimrod and simiramis and the beginning of babylon simurianus
01:59:06.000
there's a lot the false religion that ends up taking over he's like the first world ruler like
01:59:11.040
antichrist if you will it's a lot it's a lot on nimrod but i'm not a specialist on nimrod all right
01:59:15.200
what's your favorite miracle yeah and then we'll end it here i don't tell us now your favorite one
01:59:20.800
come on dude you gotta i don't have a favorite miracle if you're forced to so they're gonna they're
01:59:24.800
gonna shoot you and they go tell me your favorite miracle right now or i'm gonna shoot you my
01:59:28.400
conversion i was like my favorite miracle if you i mean if you're if you say you're gonna hold the
01:59:33.680
gun to my head like yeah it's all about him somehow everything is about you huh in the bible this is a
01:59:39.440
bible study miracle i don't know man like god coming to the earth as a man like i don't think there's any
01:59:44.640
greater miracle the resurrection the resurrection is a banger i don't know dude the holy spirit being
01:59:50.320
shed forth on the church on the day of pentecost like the birth of the church banger banger
01:59:54.160
like somehow god's living inside of humans now like i don't know i don't know how do you gotta
01:59:58.080
go so the helper can come right a better better better question you the hope of glory so god lives
02:00:03.280
inside you okay so that's cool all that stuff is really cool and i feel like it's hard to choose
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when you say miracle i'm gonna refine it down what's your favorite supernatural event in the bible
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and and let's let's not not the resurrection not god coming to die these are things that are like
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these are things that are just like like i know what my favorite is like when the she bears come
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and kill all those kids that's pretty cool that's crazy like what's your favorite crazy supernatural
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thing in the bible that doesn't make any sense that pertains to nds like off the wall stuff i don't
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know i mean i do i do like uh is it two king six where elisha's servant comes out to take a piss in the
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morning and then the whole all the armies of syria have surrounded them and he goes back to elisha he
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says dude we're gonna die and he says no no no lord open his eyes he elisha doesn't say put a
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bunch of stuff there god the stuff's already there everything's already there he just says lord open
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his eyes i know he's the first one up i love this guy he's a servant he got up to take a piss and make
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the coffee and he's just going out to the campfire to get the coffee going and he looks up and they're
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surrounded by a military a worldly military and then elisha says no no bro just god will you just
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open his eyes so he can see what's really going on and then there's this entire spirit realm that's
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there that's always been there that always is there that he had no clue about i mean that's
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just one that comes to the top of my head right now honestly psalms 40 nailed it david's 1 000
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foreskins that was cool but i don't think that that was like a supernatural thing i think you don't
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think it's supernatural to collect for thousand foreskin was a savage imagine the weight he killed a bear
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in a lion but was it a thousand natural realm savage i don't think it was a thousand i think
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it was 200 yeah it was like a hundred that he was told to get and he got twice that wasn't a
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supernatural thing but i do like that although he rolled them over i don't like to imagine the story
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i like uh so in on along the same lines balaam's donkey the same sort of thing oh where the donkey
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turns away he's like yo have i not always been your donkey dude yeah yeah we can't go this way he's not
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seeing he's not seeing it he's not seeing into the spiritual realm where the donkey talks him you
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remember yeah he's like there's an angel here that angel's going to cut you down the same way that
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elijah's servant is like yo there are people here and he's like no don't worry about it there's an
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angel that stuff i think i like that story just because it's like the stuff is always there
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yeah like six million four mindful of that man the stuff is always there it's just a matter of you
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seeing it or not seeing it which doesn't change whether it's there or not it's there oh do you think
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that bag of foreskins smelled bad that's crazy goes i also like the idea of uh of the animals
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talking because then that gets into the discussion in the garden of eden when god gave him gave adam
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these mates you know not mates but these like chill animals to walk around were they talking to him
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that's a really fun that's pretty cool yeah like it's a late inability he's saying like in an australian
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way he's saying like mating like the same way what does it say in genesis 2 we just read it
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that what no it just says that he brought all the animals before him to name him his n-words
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no that's not what it says what um let's we're going to find the scripture says he brought him
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all he brought all the animals before him he formed him out of the ground and brought him to
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him so that adam could name him um it's not it's not man it's not good that man should be alone i will
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make him a help me and help females do not like that passage but that's what it clearly says man
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uh help help me no but that's when he's he's describing the animals a help meat whatever
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that help is a helper a helper so the animals were the helpers like those were his like help homies
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no they specifically were not yeah but he couldn't have romance with them yes but that but he it was
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a help he said i will make i will make him uh and help meet keep reading and then it says and out of
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the ground the lord formed every every beast of the field and follow the air so those don't keep
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reading no and brought them to adam to see what he would call them and he names them that's what
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he named that's what he breeding kevin even though it's torture to listen to you read sometimes keep
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reading and the foul the names and the beast of the air and there was not found and help me for
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him and then he makes another help there was not me to help me that so yeah the animals were not
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to help me so then whatever they were they were the female was do you think that these animals were
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talking to him is what i'm getting at oh why didn't you just say that this is what i've been saying
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with balaam's donkey like i don't know he's trying to but you just make the face and you just make
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the face so upset balaam's donkey talks to him after he's been like it's a fair question i can't
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go any further i'm not getting killed by a fair question aren't we supposed to be able to talk
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to them in heaven that's what it seems that way yeah it seems that way man like we don't understand
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how far the fall was yeah what's up i just don't think we understand yeah like i don't like even just
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this whole like they in science they say we only use 10 of our brain it's like yo well who was using the
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other 90 if it wasn't adam sam says the snake talked and nobody was surprised yeah that's a
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that's a huge point right nobody was like oh what right eve doesn't say why are you talking
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now there's this great debate over what exactly was that that was talking to her like what like
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was it a snake that uh it i mean it's intriguing because it gets cursed to the ground so like i i
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think i've heard that they find snakes that have like legs that like a snake was able to walk before
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and now they find them and they say it's evolution but then bible readers say no no
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no that was after that was before they got cursed to the ground i don't know i don't know it's an
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intriguing what do you think is going on with pet psychics i don't know what is a pet you see the
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malong guy what i know what you're doing and i don't like it pet psychics dude they go like oh
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your cat doesn't like when you do this thing and she wants you to know there's probably some people
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that are more uh understanding of animals that might have been the most wanker shit you ever said
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no what are you talking about there's probably people that have a gift with animals man i got
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a confession to make what you're a cat whisperer cat psychic what is it top blibbity blap i yeah
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i guess i'll just put it on here this is very very hard for me to do what okay what is happening
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right now oh he's dissolving the show i had yeah very bad diarrhea oh geez why would you
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like tell that yeah he's been down with the diarrhea i farted and what i thought was a fart
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was not how is this even being said right now i soiled my own bed oh and then and then i texted
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david who i thought was my wife wait wait wait wait and i accidentally sent him that
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and then i deleted it because he doesn't look at his messages
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the end the end is written in the book in the pages they foresaw