Off the Record - Bus driver fired over “Lolita Line” outfit

00:00:00.000 I actually didn't watch any of the Edmonton Oilers because I was mad that the team allowed

00:00:08.260 any politician to suit up and skate with them and do all that nonsense in the middle of

00:00:13.540 an election campaign.

00:00:14.580 And I would feel the same way no matter what party it was.

00:00:17.580 I think that people's cherished sports teams should be their thing.

00:00:22.100 And the moment that politicians get involved, I mean, it all turns to skunk.

00:00:25.600 And then they started doing well and I like the Oilers and I'm so superstitious that I'm

00:00:30.820 like, OK, since I haven't watched them at all, I can't watch them now.

00:00:34.860 I don't jinx them, but I guess I must have already jinxed them or something because that's

00:00:38.380 why they lost.

00:00:39.920 Yeah, Chris, a lot of Canadians had similar reactions.

00:00:42.940 Of course, when we saw Mark Carney come for their practice, they were getting blasted

00:00:47.560 by fans saying, what are you doing letting this politician into the sport we love?

00:00:51.140 And then, of course, famed hockey personality, Ryan Whitney, deemed the Carney curse because

00:00:56.980 of course, Carney comes and then everyone gets injured and which kind of rehashed after

00:01:02.100 the Oilers just lost.

00:01:03.420 Some people are saying, hey, Florida is just the better team.

00:01:05.300 But others are saying that the Carney curse was in the end insurmountable because injury

00:01:10.520 troubles did not stop for the Oilers in the playoffs.

00:01:12.540 Obviously, their second best goal scorers that came and didn't play a single game in the last

00:01:15.820 series due to injury.

00:01:16.940 So, yeah, the Carney curse seemed to be something that the Oilers couldn't get over this year.

00:01:24.040 Alex, what got me is that it's the Oilers, Edmonton Oilers, and the dude that suited up for them

00:01:31.380 and took a bunch of pictures wants 80% of our oil to stay in the ground.

00:01:35.960 It was the weirdest juxtaposition.

00:01:39.760 Yeah, I was just glad we don't have the goalie to blame for once.

00:01:44.440 All right, let's see how their golf swing is.

00:01:48.720 Let's get this thing started.

00:01:54.420 Welcome to Off the Record.

00:01:56.040 My name is Chris Sims.

00:01:57.220 I'm the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:02:00.320 I'm sitting in the host's chair today.

00:02:02.260 So everybody buckle up and please be gentle.

00:02:04.780 Some of the topics on this show are...

00:02:07.080 I'm just going to throw them at you guys.

00:02:09.140 Isaac and Alex, thank you so much for joining us.

00:02:11.500 I wanted to start off the top that I can really dig my teeth into this one.

00:02:16.540 Who was this guy?

00:02:18.680 Ontario Premier Doug Ford.

00:02:21.260 He's like a new man.

00:02:23.300 Like, there's...

00:02:24.500 So for those of us who've been in the arena for a while,

00:02:27.060 people often say you don't really turn to small government,

00:02:32.320 like lower taxes, accountability, tough on crime,

00:02:35.260 until you are a liberal who's been mugged.

00:02:39.860 And here we are.

00:02:41.940 This was kind of crazy.

00:02:43.500 All of a sudden, I saw the Premier talking about getting really tough on crime.

00:02:46.760 Isaac, did this surprise you?

00:02:48.940 Yeah, no, it shocked me, Chris,

00:02:50.640 when I watched this press conference in its entirety,

00:02:53.280 especially with Ford's recent...

00:02:56.280 He might have been...

00:02:58.660 Over the recent, especially over the election recently,

00:03:01.040 conservatives across the country have been questioning Ford

00:03:03.440 and his allegiances, especially with how he behaved

00:03:05.700 with the Federal Conservative Party and talking about them.

00:03:07.920 But now, all of a sudden, we're seeing these press conferences

00:03:10.240 and I'm reading through the transcript

00:03:12.220 and quote after quote after quote,

00:03:13.840 I'm like, he said this?

00:03:15.300 Like, it's just ridiculous things that he's saying.

00:03:17.400 Like, really good things for conservatives.

00:03:19.420 Well, some good things.

00:03:21.040 For example, the story we're talking about today,

00:03:23.380 he actually said that Canada should have a castle law,

00:03:26.520 which, for those who don't know, a castle doctrine is a legal principle

00:03:29.880 that is active in many U.S. states,

00:03:34.000 which essentially allows a homeowner to use self-defense,

00:03:36.520 including lethal force against an intruder,

00:03:39.780 without any obligation to retreat, essentially.

00:03:42.800 So if someone comes into your home, you could kill them, essentially.

00:03:45.600 That's what the castle law is, if they threaten your life.

00:03:49.100 And then some of the quotes Ford were saying,

00:03:50.680 he's like, yeah, no, if someone breaks into your house

00:03:54.080 and you're protecting your kids, like, you'll do whatever it takes.

00:03:56.140 He listed a bunch of weapons you could grab,

00:03:58.400 like a hammer, a knife, like, he's saying this stuff.

00:04:01.400 It's crazy.

00:04:02.380 And there is no small coincidence that Ford was carjacked,

00:04:08.520 literally, I think the night before this happened.

00:04:10.300 So he was absolutely heated.

00:04:12.880 I mean, this was a motion that I've never seen from Ford.

00:04:16.480 And obviously, he also said, hey, look, I'm a premier.

00:04:19.900 I have two police cars were on my property just watching me

00:04:23.140 because he has special RCMP detail or whatever.

00:04:26.460 But most Canadians don't have that luxury.

00:04:29.840 And when you're getting carjacked,

00:04:30.900 you don't have police there on the ready to help you.

00:04:34.320 And then he even took it a step further

00:04:35.920 because, of course, some of you guys may remember,

00:04:38.580 there was that recent story

00:04:39.720 where the homeowner shot his gun at home invaders

00:04:44.080 recently in Toronto,

00:04:45.320 and he was among those who got charged.

00:04:48.580 So that's another thing that influenced Ford's speech here.

00:04:51.680 Ford said that that homeowner only shot the gun in the air.

00:04:55.280 I don't know whether that was confirmed

00:04:56.500 based on the other stories I read,

00:04:58.140 but he went as far as saying Ford did

00:05:00.500 that he was going to start a fundraiser for this person

00:05:03.060 and cover his legal costs.

00:05:04.740 And he even said he should get a medal

00:05:06.060 for standing up for himself.

00:05:07.380 Yeah, he just kept talking.

00:05:09.560 Like, from a prom staffer perspective,

00:05:11.680 I was just like, he just kept on saying this stuff.

00:05:14.620 And then he kept going.

00:05:16.480 He attacked the judges.

00:05:17.480 He attacked the Liberal government.

00:05:18.660 He said he called the judges weak need

00:05:21.380 for just basically letting people out on bail.

00:05:23.420 But I will say, and Alex knows better about this,

00:05:26.400 but in the judges' defense,

00:05:28.120 they can't do much with the catch and release policies

00:05:31.080 from the federal government.

00:05:32.600 And I mean, I could go on for minutes and minutes

00:05:36.520 and talking about all the things Ford said,

00:05:38.840 but I feel like I'm hijacking the conversation here.

00:05:41.540 No, no, no, it's a big one.

00:05:43.120 Alex, if you want to maybe just talk about

00:05:45.600 the judge aspect or something, I don't know.

00:05:48.640 Yeah, a few things on this.

00:05:50.020 I totally agree with Chris.

00:05:52.180 People's opinions on crime change a lot, of course,

00:05:54.860 when you become a victim of crime.

00:05:56.740 Kind of reminds me of that Mike Tyson quote

00:05:58.760 where it's like everybody has a plan

00:06:00.060 until they get punched in the face.

00:06:02.600 That's kind of what happened here with Ford.

00:06:05.780 But on the matter of the law,

00:06:07.500 it's interesting because a lot of people

00:06:09.420 don't understand this very well.

00:06:10.800 In Canada, you don't even have the right

00:06:12.840 to preemptive self-defense in terms of thought.

00:06:17.460 So this came up during the Coutts trial,

00:06:19.160 which is really interesting

00:06:20.500 because those fellows had guns somewhere near

00:06:22.980 in the vicinity of the big protests that happened,

00:06:25.400 you know, in solidarity with the protests in Ottawa.

00:06:27.880 And they had those guns.

00:06:29.240 They said in court for the purpose

00:06:30.900 of defending themselves in the unlikely event

00:06:33.160 that the government started shooting

00:06:34.640 at women and children.

00:06:36.060 They were deemed to be in possession of weapons

00:06:38.740 for a dangerous purpose.

00:06:40.460 And what the judge basically explained

00:06:42.820 in court transcripts, which we now have access to,

00:06:46.320 and I'll be writing about it later,

00:06:47.820 is in Canada, if you picked up, for instance,

00:06:51.300 a hammer in your house and said,

00:06:53.300 this would make a great weapon to defend myself

00:06:55.200 with against a home intruder,

00:06:56.640 you are in possession of a weapon

00:06:58.400 for a dangerous purpose.

00:07:00.020 You are not even allowed to have the thought

00:07:01.980 of defending yourself.

00:07:03.820 So for Doug Ford to make these comments,

00:07:05.640 which are so contrary to the actual laws in Canada,

00:07:08.480 I found very fascinating and interesting.

00:07:10.420 I found it interesting too.

00:07:12.380 So taking off my CTF hat,

00:07:14.440 although we do spend a shocking amount of money

00:07:18.300 on the criminal justice system,

00:07:19.880 so there is a huge cost to taxpayers.

00:07:23.120 So that should just be understood.

00:07:25.740 Second, I was a court reporter like you, Alex,

00:07:28.680 for years and years for TV and radio and print.

00:07:31.620 And I lost track of the number of times

00:07:34.720 I just watched people walk through.

00:07:36.440 They might as well put literally a revolving door

00:07:38.600 on the rooms because, you know,

00:07:40.080 it would save on their air conditioning bills

00:07:41.740 because they're just in and out,

00:07:43.580 in and out, in and out.

00:07:44.820 To your point exactly,

00:07:46.780 I think a lot of folks who are law abiding,

00:07:50.160 they don't come into contact with courts.

00:07:53.200 So the most they'll ever get

00:07:54.740 is maybe a speeding ticket

00:07:56.020 from a police officer or something,

00:07:57.560 maybe once or twice in their lives.

00:07:59.680 And so we watch all of this news

00:08:03.040 and drama and media come from the United States,

00:08:05.980 which has a very different approach

00:08:09.020 to exactly what you're talking about.

00:08:11.880 So you're right.

00:08:13.140 We do not have any form of castle law in Canada.

00:08:16.120 In fact, I would describe it more as the reverse.

00:08:18.240 It's the intent that you have

00:08:20.220 with whatever objects you have around you.

00:08:22.400 Super important.

00:08:24.200 So just as a note,

00:08:25.740 I would recommend that people

00:08:27.140 who have this sort of stuff in mind

00:08:28.680 and who talk about things like this,

00:08:31.300 read up on it before you start talking about it.

00:08:34.220 So for example,

00:08:35.680 if you are a legal law abiding firearms owner,

00:08:38.100 of course, the only reasons you have such things

00:08:40.440 are for hunting and target shooting.

00:08:43.760 Those are the only two reasons

00:08:45.440 you can legally own a firearm in Canada, period.

00:08:48.240 Now, most folks understand that that's the case.

00:08:51.880 Like ranchers use it as a tool, right?

00:08:53.960 To put down pests and things like that.

00:08:56.060 And so it's just an understood thing.

00:08:58.360 So this is again why as a comms person,

00:09:01.260 my jaw was kind of hanging open

00:09:02.740 at the premier saying this stuff.

00:09:05.120 What kind of surprises me most

00:09:06.920 is that I don't think he knew this.

00:09:09.980 Like he seems to be unaware

00:09:11.700 of what you just pointed out, Alex,

00:09:14.080 of the difference between intention

00:09:15.820 and what we are allowed to do within our homes.

00:09:21.660 Yeah, I would agree.

00:09:22.880 I mean, either he doesn't understand the law

00:09:24.900 or he hates it.

00:09:27.620 Well, if it's the latter,

00:09:29.500 you know, he is a premier

00:09:31.160 and he might want to, you know,

00:09:33.080 pick up the horn

00:09:33.920 and maybe talk to his friend,

00:09:35.940 Prime Minister Mark Carney.

00:09:37.260 What got me from a Taxpayers Federation perspective

00:09:40.500 is that in the middle of the election,

00:09:43.000 okay, it was a trade union.

00:09:46.080 I still can't believe this.

00:09:47.060 I'll be surprised about this for the rest of my life.

00:09:48.960 A trade union.

00:09:50.060 The Pipe and Steelworkers Union out of Hamilton

00:09:52.280 were so worried about Carney's

00:09:55.160 looming industrial carbon tax,

00:09:57.100 which is going to happen.

00:09:58.660 They were so worried about this.

00:10:00.540 They said it was going to decimate their industry.

00:10:02.620 They were ringing all the fire bells.

00:10:04.180 They endorsed Pierre Polyev instead.

00:10:08.240 And Ford, who is the premier of Ontario,

00:10:11.780 where most of our steel industry is located,

00:10:14.620 right there, those are, you know, his voters.

00:10:17.360 Nothing.

00:10:18.060 Crickets.

00:10:18.880 Absolute crickets.

00:10:20.200 Said nothing about the industrial carbon tax.

00:10:22.680 Never challenged Carney on it one bit.

00:10:24.880 Whereas we've got Scott Moe out here

00:10:26.360 who was, you know, saying we're not doing any of this.

00:10:29.180 Daniel Smith froze it.

00:10:30.380 She needs to get rid of it completely.

00:10:31.660 But other premiers were standing up to him over this.

00:10:33.820 So I guess that's why I'm just kind of surprised

00:10:36.120 to see this brand new premier, Ford, Isaac.

00:10:38.460 Yeah, a few things I'll say about Ford.

00:10:40.460 Firstly, in his defense,

00:10:41.440 he did say in this press conference

00:10:43.140 that he was going to bring it up with Carney.

00:10:44.760 And he's basically also criticized them

00:10:46.480 for saying they'd do something about it

00:10:48.440 over the last decade

00:10:49.220 and obviously not doing anything.

00:10:51.420 And in fact, he made a joke.

00:10:53.960 I mean, not much of a joke in a way,

00:10:55.820 but he basically said,

00:10:56.940 look, the four suspects

00:10:57.960 who were trying to carjack him

00:11:00.220 are probably already out on bail.

00:11:02.300 And then a few quotes I'll highlight from him.

00:11:04.000 He said, this next one is a joke, by the way.

00:11:07.160 He said, they're going to be back out.

00:11:09.340 Why don't you guys come over for a barbecue tonight?

00:11:11.500 You know, I'll take care of you better than the police.

00:11:13.520 And thank God the police got you.

00:11:15.060 And I never did.

00:11:16.240 And then he said,

00:11:17.740 I'm sick and tired of the weak justice system

00:11:19.980 that we have.

00:11:20.720 We need to start throwing these people in jail.

00:11:22.440 This is turning into a lawless society.

00:11:24.760 So these are super strong words from Ford.

00:11:28.340 And taking it to another kind of funny aspect,

00:11:30.640 obviously, we saw the Toronto police,

00:11:33.600 I think it was,

00:11:34.320 previously tell homeowners to leave their keys at the doors

00:11:36.960 so they don't get home invaded

00:11:39.020 because then the robbers will just see the keys

00:11:41.780 and take your car

00:11:42.440 so they won't invade your home and harm you.

00:11:44.680 That's the best thing you can do, guys.

00:11:45.960 Leave your keys at the door.

00:11:47.280 So that's not premeditative self-defense,

00:11:49.580 but whatever the opposite of self-defense is.

00:11:52.320 Yeah, the leave the keys at the door thing,

00:11:54.820 that made international news.

00:11:56.100 That was on New York Post.

00:11:57.520 That made Fox.

00:11:58.680 Probably made a couple of papers over in the UK.

00:12:02.680 We actually have a clip here of Premier Ford

00:12:05.380 because I think it's important for you guys

00:12:07.200 to listen to it in your own words.

00:12:09.080 Let's take a listen.

00:12:10.440 Did you hear about the guy that these thugs came up,

00:12:14.060 you know, ready to steal his car?

00:12:15.860 They're all in their masks and everything.

00:12:17.840 So I guess he was a hunter or something.

00:12:19.440 He shot up in the air.

00:12:21.380 I don't recommend that, by the way.

00:12:23.900 But he gets charged.

00:12:25.620 I got to find out this guy's name and number.

00:12:28.280 And I'm going to hold a fundraiser for lawyer fees for him.

00:12:31.360 He should get a medal for standing up.

00:12:33.280 It's like down in the U.S.

00:12:34.700 we should have the castle law.

00:12:36.480 Someone breaks into your house,

00:12:38.200 and I know any of these people here,

00:12:39.760 someone breaks into your house

00:12:40.820 and they're coming after your kids

00:12:42.480 and you're coming after your spouse,

00:12:44.460 you're going to fight like you've never fought before.

00:12:46.880 You're going to use anything that you have,

00:12:49.520 be it weapons, baseball bats, knives.

00:12:51.660 You're protecting your family.

00:12:53.280 These thugs shouldn't be coming in there.

00:12:55.940 Yeah, that was something else.

00:12:58.020 Again, that was a very different sort of Premier Ford.

00:13:01.840 In fact, that was the Doug Ford that I remembered from,

00:13:04.900 he was even on our show once.

00:13:06.380 He had his own show with his late brother

00:13:08.260 one time at Sun News Network.

00:13:09.980 And I remember Doug and Rob Ford talking like this.

00:13:14.060 So that's what I kind of remembered.

00:13:16.640 Be interesting to see for,

00:13:18.480 and like I'll get into this quickly with you, Alex,

00:13:20.320 before I move on to our next story,

00:13:21.720 but can you describe a little bit about C5?

00:13:25.320 So a lot of people were talking about this.

00:13:27.360 It's basically where the federal government,

00:13:29.900 correct me if I'm wrong,

00:13:31.120 has instructed judges

00:13:32.460 to give the most lenient possible punishment

00:13:36.100 for the briefest amount of time possible.

00:13:38.640 Is that kind of the wording of this?

00:13:41.300 Yeah, so Bill C5 and Bill C75

00:13:43.500 are kind of two wings of the same bird, so to speak.

00:13:47.340 They both intend to make the justice system

00:13:50.640 more equitable and more fair is generally the idea.

00:13:55.240 The concept is that racialized people,

00:13:58.980 as the legislation spells it out,

00:14:01.160 were overrepresented in the legal system.

00:14:04.020 And so in order to make things more fair and equitable,

00:14:07.320 they would just provide bail

00:14:09.180 on the least onerous conditions possible.

00:14:13.240 Interestingly enough,

00:14:14.160 I attend a lot of bail hearings,

00:14:16.020 and I would say that it's still like overrepresented

00:14:19.060 by racialized people,

00:14:22.540 however you want to define that.

00:14:24.900 So I'm not really sure

00:14:26.460 how this legislation is supposed to work, right?

00:14:29.240 Like maybe it's just possible

00:14:30.760 at the risk of sounding a bit discriminatory

00:14:33.760 that certain people are just committing more crimes.

00:14:36.440 And specifically with regards to indigenous people,

00:14:39.380 what has happened is you are now seeing people

00:14:41.860 who are not indigenous going to reserves

00:14:44.140 and using those places

00:14:45.540 to produce and manufacture drugs,

00:14:48.180 and they're using them as hubs

00:14:49.220 for trafficking of drugs and people

00:14:50.960 and all sorts of things

00:14:51.880 because they're now essentially legal safe zones.

00:14:54.220 If you have somebody who's going to be treated

00:14:56.180 in the legal justice system

00:14:57.380 more leniently on account of their race,

00:14:59.560 then that makes that person

00:15:01.000 an actual very attractive runner

00:15:02.800 for drugs, for crime.

00:15:05.900 And so people are now being recruited into crime

00:15:08.420 on account of the fact

00:15:09.760 that they're more likely

00:15:11.800 to be sent back out onto the streets

00:15:13.880 in this revolving door justice system.

00:15:15.700 So the legislation just doesn't achieve

00:15:17.240 what it intended to, in my opinion.

00:15:19.540 And I actually think that,

00:15:20.840 as is often the case,

00:15:22.200 the path to hell is paved by good intentions.

00:15:24.500 I think it ultimately gets back to accountability.

00:15:26.800 I think it's been pointed out many times

00:15:29.400 that a few dozen criminals in Vancouver

00:15:32.440 commit thousands and thousands of the same crimes.

00:15:36.100 Like these police officers must be getting tired

00:15:38.780 of seeing the same faces.

00:15:40.260 And this is the issue that the crime

00:15:42.240 just keeps getting committed

00:15:43.240 by a very tiny group of people,

00:15:45.040 and that incurs costs,

00:15:46.800 and it constantly causes problems

00:15:49.400 for people who are on the outside

00:15:50.900 because their property is getting ripped off,

00:15:52.960 people are getting assaulted on buses, et cetera.

00:15:54.760 And so I do think it does get down to accountability.

00:15:58.100 And folks, if you don't like it,

00:16:00.080 make sure you are on your local politicians,

00:16:03.040 including your municipal politicians.

00:16:05.240 So if you're in Vancouver

00:16:06.320 and you're sick of the crime,

00:16:08.480 you should be at city council meetings.

00:16:10.580 You should be contacting your city councillor

00:16:12.620 all the time,

00:16:13.760 and then writing to your provincial and federal levels

00:16:16.620 and saying,

00:16:17.460 this is an issue for me,

00:16:19.000 it's a voting issue for me,

00:16:20.380 if you don't fix it,

00:16:21.520 I'm going to doorknock against you.

00:16:23.000 I would give this advice on any topic

00:16:24.980 that people feel really passionately about.

00:16:27.620 I want to stick with justice really quick here.

00:16:30.200 There was something that came up

00:16:31.260 at the Justice Committee,

00:16:32.340 and I think former True North host,

00:16:35.000 Andrew Lawton,

00:16:36.220 was playing a role here.

00:16:37.340 Who wants to take this one away?

00:16:39.320 Yeah, I wrote the article.

00:16:40.440 I'd love to.

00:16:41.400 So on the subject of bail reform,

00:16:45.920 Andrew Lawton is a member

00:16:47.260 of the House of Commons Standing Committee

00:16:49.580 on Justice and Human Rights,

00:16:50.920 which typically their mandate

00:16:52.580 is to deal with issues

00:16:53.900 related to the Department of Justice

00:16:55.500 and laws in the criminal code.

00:16:58.700 And so these would be the people

00:16:59.860 that would be the caretakers

00:17:01.140 for dealing with,

00:17:02.480 in my opinion,

00:17:03.120 dysfunctional pieces of legislation

00:17:04.520 like Bill C-5 and Bill C-75.

00:17:07.160 Instead, what they did

00:17:08.180 is they appointed Mark Miller

00:17:10.940 as the chair of the Justice Committee.

00:17:13.640 And he mostly spoke about

00:17:16.460 being respectful,

00:17:17.640 about decorum.

00:17:19.100 He talked about the importance

00:17:20.500 of lunch breaks

00:17:21.340 to avoid hangriness

00:17:22.400 and to promote solidarity.

00:17:24.620 And then they just adjourned the meeting

00:17:27.920 and said,

00:17:28.380 let's go for summer break,

00:17:29.420 which Andrew Lawton was quite rightly,

00:17:31.880 in my opinion,

00:17:32.700 outraged by.

00:17:33.920 Did he actually bring up lunch?

00:17:36.440 Yeah.

00:17:36.840 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:17:37.520 I wrote about it in the article.

00:17:39.060 He said we need to combat hangriness.

00:17:40.740 He also talked about the importance

00:17:42.820 of people not slamming down

00:17:44.080 their headphones

00:17:44.820 in outrage feigned

00:17:46.520 or otherwise, he said.

00:17:48.180 So I think,

00:17:49.020 I was just thinking about this

00:17:49.980 a few moments ago,

00:17:50.840 what the liberal strategy is

00:17:52.320 with regards to the issue of crime

00:17:53.920 is first they're going to gaslight you.

00:17:56.280 It's just like housing.

00:17:57.800 They're going to say it's not an issue.

00:17:59.900 And then when it ceases to,

00:18:02.480 when that ceases to be effective,

00:18:03.880 what they're going to do

00:18:04.580 is they're going to say,

00:18:05.160 well, this is not our responsibility.

00:18:06.500 It's the province's responsibility, right?

00:18:09.220 So they're going to gaslight

00:18:10.180 and then they're going to obfuscate it.

00:18:12.320 You can see it from the very beginning.

00:18:14.420 And yeah, that's essentially,

00:18:17.340 I think, what the strategy is.

00:18:19.100 And I don't know if this is going to fly

00:18:21.160 because I think normal working people

00:18:23.880 who don't make $300,000 per year plus,

00:18:27.340 like that cabinet minister

00:18:28.580 who was actually talking out loud

00:18:30.700 about hangriness makes,

00:18:32.720 and they live in normal working neighborhoods,

00:18:35.360 are tired of crime.

00:18:37.620 And they're tired of them

00:18:39.860 not seeing good value for their taxes.

00:18:42.220 Again, close to half of what you make

00:18:45.220 goes into taxes.

00:18:47.260 So imagine what lands in your bank account

00:18:49.340 if you're on salary every two weeks.

00:18:51.620 Picture it.

00:18:52.700 Double it.

00:18:54.000 That's how much governments, plural,

00:18:56.520 are taking from you,

00:18:57.740 including to pay for a so-called justice system.

00:19:00.860 So you should ask yourself

00:19:02.040 if you're getting good value for money here.

00:19:04.520 Isaac, did any of this take you by surprise?

00:19:06.580 I, for one, am very happy

00:19:08.240 that Andrew Lawton is on this committee

00:19:10.160 because the guy sharpens his pencil

00:19:12.580 and does his homework.

00:19:13.640 So I'm looking forward to this.

00:19:15.980 Yeah, a few quick words

00:19:17.220 I wanted to make about Lawton

00:19:19.280 on this committee

00:19:20.000 because obviously I've written

00:19:21.480 a few articles about this,

00:19:22.600 but a theme is emerging with Lawton

00:19:24.560 exposing his counterparts

00:19:25.820 for not knowing anything

00:19:27.140 about the files they're on.

00:19:28.760 Chris, here you are talking about

00:19:30.020 the salaries and the lifestyle they live,

00:19:32.120 and yet they can't answer basic questions

00:19:34.200 about their file.

00:19:34.760 What are you doing at your job?

00:19:36.600 What do you do with your time?

00:19:37.380 You don't know the most fundamental question

00:19:39.520 of your file, for example.

00:19:42.180 Andrew Lawton recently exposed

00:19:43.480 the minister responsible

00:19:44.540 for Canada's public service

00:19:46.000 because he was unable to explain

00:19:47.580 why bureaucracy was increasing faster

00:19:50.080 than the country's population.

00:19:51.540 He asked some very simple questions.

00:19:53.040 How have nearly 100,000 bureaucrats

00:19:55.160 been added since 2016?

00:19:56.680 No idea.

00:19:57.160 But this mirrored a similar exchange,

00:20:00.580 which I'm sure many people saw,

00:20:02.420 between Lawton and Public Safety Minister

00:20:04.700 Gary Ananda Sangri,

00:20:06.280 which revealed he too could not answer

00:20:08.180 the most basic fundamental questions

00:20:10.220 about Canada's gun laws.

00:20:11.340 Andrew's asking him basic questions

00:20:13.420 that you might even think

00:20:14.600 a normal Canadian would know the answer to,

00:20:16.380 just having ever looked at Canada's gun laws.

00:20:19.360 Nothing.

00:20:19.600 So, yeah, Lawton is obviously

00:20:23.560 doing the great job

00:20:26.240 as an opposition member

00:20:27.680 exposing these ministers

00:20:29.700 who know nothing about their files.

00:20:31.280 I mean, it's crazy.

00:20:32.500 And it leaves you scratching your head

00:20:34.440 with how do these liberal ministers

00:20:36.620 get appointed to these files

00:20:37.900 and what are they doing with their time

00:20:39.420 where they can't answer

00:20:40.460 the most fundamental, basic questions

00:20:42.660 about them.

00:20:43.500 And for folks who are like,

00:20:44.940 oh, well, is it fair to, you know,

00:20:47.300 I don't know,

00:20:48.680 quiz people about the populations

00:20:50.220 of certain countries

00:20:51.100 that they're getting engaged with

00:20:52.420 and saying that isn't fair.

00:20:54.740 No, this case,

00:20:56.240 it was the public safety minister,

00:20:57.960 okay, who did,

00:20:59.680 who, the best part of his answer

00:21:01.620 he did with Lawton,

00:21:02.440 in my opinion,

00:21:03.080 as a law-abiding legal firearms owner,

00:21:05.820 was that at the end of it,

00:21:07.600 the minister said,

00:21:08.700 this isn't about law-abiding firearms owners.

00:21:13.500 No, no.

00:21:15.380 This is exactly what,

00:21:17.240 what this gun man is.

00:21:18.620 It's entirely about

00:21:19.820 law-abiding gun owners.

00:21:22.140 This actually has nothing to do

00:21:24.420 with the criminals and gangbangers

00:21:26.260 who no reasonable person

00:21:28.160 would be upset about

00:21:29.080 if you're taking their guns away.

00:21:30.940 No, this is,

00:21:32.060 that's the entire point.

00:21:33.340 And that's what kind of mystifies me.

00:21:35.120 It's like,

00:21:35.560 does he really think

00:21:36.780 that there's this huge,

00:21:38.140 vocal, organized opposition

00:21:39.840 against his law

00:21:41.340 because we want thugs and criminals

00:21:43.640 to not have illegal guns?

00:21:45.020 You know,

00:21:45.900 on that point, Chris,

00:21:47.020 it strikes me as ironic

00:21:49.340 because the liberals

00:21:50.480 are constantly accusing

00:21:51.460 the conservatives

00:21:52.160 of importing American politics

00:21:54.260 into Canada.

00:21:55.300 Now, in the United States,

00:21:56.160 you do actually have an issue

00:21:57.600 of legal gun owners

00:21:58.980 committing mass shootings.

00:22:00.900 We don't really have that in Canada.

00:22:03.540 I mean,

00:22:03.760 when was the last time

00:22:04.540 a legal gun owner in Canada

00:22:06.220 went on a mass shooting?

00:22:08.540 Great question.

00:22:09.000 It's like 99% of the guns

00:22:10.140 and crimes are illegally obtained,

00:22:11.580 so it just doesn't happen.

00:22:14.160 The police themselves.

00:22:15.420 Okay, so the cops

00:22:16.460 on the front lines,

00:22:17.240 the guys and gals,

00:22:18.040 the police unions

00:22:18.800 say repeatedly,

00:22:20.600 this is not the place to go.

00:22:22.460 Like, could you please

00:22:23.620 give us more resources,

00:22:25.220 more time,

00:22:25.760 more focus

00:22:26.360 to catch the gun runners

00:22:28.080 and the gangbangers

00:22:29.120 and the bad guys and gals

00:22:30.500 who are illegally using guns?

00:22:33.140 Typically speaking,

00:22:33.960 there are rare outliers,

00:22:36.380 but typically speaking,

00:22:37.460 it is not the ranchers

00:22:39.380 and the hunters

00:22:40.220 and the folks

00:22:41.160 who have gone through

00:22:42.040 all of the safety courses

00:22:43.320 with the government

00:22:44.980 that are the ones

00:22:46.560 who are committing

00:22:47.100 the crimes here.

00:22:48.100 The cops themselves say this.

00:22:49.700 In that Justice Committee meeting

00:22:51.040 as well,

00:22:51.460 Larry Brock made

00:22:52.100 a really good point.

00:22:53.060 I mean, the liberals,

00:22:53.740 this is another one

00:22:54.460 of those things

00:22:54.980 where there's some

00:22:55.700 cognitive dissonance

00:22:56.540 going on here.

00:22:57.220 They love to talk about

00:22:58.400 adhering to the expert advice.

00:23:01.700 And Larry Brock says,

00:23:02.660 well, on this point,

00:23:03.620 we have expert advice,

00:23:05.260 right?

00:23:05.440 The heads of police associations,

00:23:07.980 you know,

00:23:09.260 these are the experts.

00:23:10.980 Nikki Sharma,

00:23:11.820 who is the attorney general

00:23:13.140 of B.C.,

00:23:13.760 the most liberal province,

00:23:15.080 is asking for the liberals

00:23:16.300 to reconfigure the laws

00:23:19.240 that are allowing

00:23:19.860 this revolving justice system

00:23:21.140 to continue.

00:23:22.400 Oh, I didn't know that.

00:23:23.620 That's interesting.

00:23:24.600 Even the attorney general

00:23:25.720 of B.C. is saying

00:23:26.900 this is too much.

00:23:29.400 Wow.

00:23:29.840 So they're just not

00:23:30.580 listening to the experts.

00:23:31.860 They're not listening

00:23:32.420 to the experts.

00:23:33.120 They're importing

00:23:33.600 American politics.

00:23:34.520 They're doing everything

00:23:35.540 that they accuse

00:23:36.300 the conservatives of doing.

00:23:37.980 People just want results

00:23:39.580 and they want good government

00:23:40.640 and they want them

00:23:41.400 to quit wasting.

00:23:42.380 Speaking of wasting,

00:23:43.600 do we want to chat

00:23:44.360 about the river?

00:23:46.560 Okay.

00:23:47.100 Yeah.

00:23:47.640 So shout out to Jake.

00:23:50.240 Okay.

00:23:50.660 He is our amazing research guru

00:23:53.940 with the Canadian

00:23:54.920 Taxpayers Federation.

00:23:56.660 And Jake,

00:23:57.360 like any good tax fighter,

00:23:58.980 doesn't like government waste.

00:24:00.940 And he lives in Alberta

00:24:02.500 and he did a freedom

00:24:04.180 of information request

00:24:05.340 to find out

00:24:06.140 that Calgary taxpayers

00:24:08.500 paid more than $65,000

00:24:11.720 to set up a telephone line

00:24:14.720 so that people can phone

00:24:17.160 the river.

00:24:19.100 Like,

00:24:20.000 not,

00:24:20.460 that isn't the name

00:24:21.080 of a business.

00:24:22.740 These arty people

00:24:24.320 set up a telephone line

00:24:26.020 so that human beings

00:24:27.540 can telephone

00:24:28.580 like,

00:24:29.780 like the Bow River.

00:24:31.880 Like,

00:24:32.380 hello.

00:24:33.540 I,

00:24:34.060 okay.

00:24:35.240 Number one,

00:24:36.300 I know art is subjective.

00:24:38.000 Okay.

00:24:38.300 Whatever you're into,

00:24:39.820 you're into.

00:24:40.560 I understand.

00:24:41.680 If phoning

00:24:42.720 a river floats your boat,

00:24:44.580 that's great.

00:24:46.460 Pay for it yourself.

00:24:48.360 Don't make your neighbors

00:24:49.560 pay for this.

00:24:50.280 This is a reflection

00:24:51.420 of a quote

00:24:51.920 that I heard

00:24:52.280 that I turn over

00:24:53.220 in my mind all the time.

00:24:54.540 It's the age of communication,

00:24:56.000 but people have never

00:24:56.700 communicated less.

00:24:59.280 That is so well done.

00:25:02.040 So,

00:25:02.840 I looked into this

00:25:04.800 a little bit more

00:25:05.540 and Jake looked into this

00:25:07.060 a little bit more

00:25:07.760 and the amount of money,

00:25:10.500 okay,

00:25:10.760 the millions of dollars

00:25:11.980 that Calgary City Hall

00:25:13.700 spends

00:25:14.580 on this art slush fund,

00:25:16.920 okay,

00:25:17.900 would cover

00:25:18.560 the entire property tax bill

00:25:20.700 for 7,000

00:25:23.320 Calgary households.

00:25:26.320 So,

00:25:27.240 again,

00:25:27.760 this is the same

00:25:29.120 Calgary City Hall

00:25:30.220 that cries broke

00:25:31.600 every five minutes

00:25:32.780 and blames

00:25:34.160 the premier

00:25:34.660 for it,

00:25:35.720 okay,

00:25:36.540 and doesn't know

00:25:37.280 how to fix

00:25:37.780 a water main,

00:25:39.000 all right,

00:25:39.740 but they will turn around

00:25:41.380 and blow

00:25:42.000 $65,000

00:25:43.360 on a telephone

00:25:45.140 art project

00:25:45.940 to call the river.

00:25:46.900 I will point out

00:25:47.740 two things.

00:25:48.560 One,

00:25:49.280 the phone number

00:25:50.100 doesn't work.

00:25:51.900 Good job, guys.

00:25:53.440 If you phone it,

00:25:54.320 you actually get put

00:25:55.180 through to this,

00:25:55.940 you know,

00:25:56.320 Calgary Art Slush Fund

00:25:57.540 voicemail.

00:25:58.860 Two,

00:25:59.860 they have spent

00:26:02.360 so much money

00:26:03.380 on this

00:26:03.940 the last little while.

00:26:05.460 This is actually

00:26:06.180 a repeat

00:26:07.020 of a project

00:26:08.360 they did

00:26:08.780 back in 2014

00:26:09.760 and get this.

00:26:12.300 They wanted

00:26:13.120 to switch it

00:26:14.100 to a local

00:26:14.960 403 number

00:26:16.280 instead of

00:26:17.240 a 1855 number

00:26:18.740 so that they

00:26:19.940 give power

00:26:21.420 and ownership

00:26:22.540 back to the river.

00:26:27.640 I'm sorry.

00:26:29.520 And there was

00:26:30.820 communication.

00:26:31.780 So,

00:26:32.060 these are all

00:26:32.520 based on documents

00:26:33.300 obtained by the

00:26:33.940 Canadian Taxpayers

00:26:34.640 Federation.

00:26:35.040 and we got

00:26:36.000 a hold of

00:26:36.360 some emails

00:26:36.920 and one

00:26:38.460 City Hall

00:26:39.360 employee,

00:26:41.220 bless his or

00:26:41.800 her heart,

00:26:42.700 said,

00:26:43.380 a downside

00:26:44.460 could be that

00:26:45.180 this will be seen

00:26:45.860 as a foolish

00:26:46.440 waste of money.

00:26:47.300 I think you're

00:26:53.440 stunned.

00:26:53.920 Are you all right?

00:26:55.120 Yeah,

00:26:55.360 no,

00:26:55.660 just so many

00:26:56.180 things going

00:26:56.780 through my head.

00:26:57.500 Let's just

00:26:57.940 operate for a

00:26:59.140 second in the

00:26:59.920 fantasy world

00:27:00.560 where phoning

00:27:01.120 the river

00:27:01.580 is a grave

00:27:03.980 concern that

00:27:04.560 needs to be

00:27:04.980 addressed.

00:27:06.040 This just

00:27:06.660 brings up

00:27:07.060 public versus

00:27:07.860 private sector

00:27:08.520 investment.

00:27:09.020 I mean,

00:27:09.180 it's insane.

00:27:09.960 $65,000 to

00:27:11.240 set up a

00:27:11.760 phone line?

00:27:12.260 What are you

00:27:12.640 doing?

00:27:13.320 I probably

00:27:13.760 could have

00:27:14.080 called Jimmy

00:27:15.000 in the yellow

00:27:15.840 pages to do

00:27:16.460 it for like

00:27:16.800 a hundred

00:27:17.060 bucks.

00:27:17.600 I mean,

00:27:17.840 what are we

00:27:18.280 talking about?

00:27:18.660 $65,000?

00:27:19.460 What was the

00:27:19.960 money spent

00:27:20.460 on?

00:27:21.080 And then it

00:27:21.860 doesn't even

00:27:22.280 work.

00:27:22.780 It doesn't

00:27:23.300 even work.

00:27:23.860 You spent

00:27:24.140 $65,000.

00:27:25.080 It doesn't

00:27:25.320 even work.

00:27:26.420 I mean,

00:27:26.780 it's ridiculous.

00:27:27.760 Plus,

00:27:29.080 you know,

00:27:29.480 now that you

00:27:29.780 mentioned it,

00:27:30.100 it's kind of

00:27:30.360 funny.

00:27:30.940 I would love

00:27:31.640 to just listen

00:27:32.220 in on those

00:27:32.620 phone calls

00:27:33.100 of people

00:27:33.420 calling the

00:27:33.760 river.

00:27:33.960 And I was

00:27:34.100 like,

00:27:34.700 I wonder

00:27:34.940 what they're

00:27:35.220 saying to

00:27:35.740 the river.

00:27:36.340 Like,

00:27:36.940 let me get

00:27:38.360 in on that

00:27:38.800 line and just

00:27:39.400 listen to the

00:27:40.020 calls and just

00:27:40.620 be like,

00:27:41.380 what's going

00:27:42.100 on with the

00:27:42.520 river talk here?

00:27:43.660 I wonder if

00:27:44.580 that was

00:27:44.920 recorded.

00:27:45.700 Oh,

00:27:45.920 I'm going to

00:27:46.680 we're going to

00:27:47.100 FOI that.

00:27:47.880 That's a great

00:27:48.380 idea.

00:27:48.760 You're welcome,

00:27:49.200 Chris.

00:27:52.320 Okay.

00:27:52.920 And for folks

00:27:53.720 who are upset

00:27:54.340 or like,

00:27:54.760 why are you

00:27:55.100 guys laughing?

00:27:55.980 Okay.

00:27:56.340 Number one,

00:27:57.180 you have to

00:27:57.600 laugh or you

00:27:58.100 cry.

00:27:58.560 Okay.

00:27:59.120 Like when it

00:27:59.960 comes to

00:28:00.420 government,

00:28:00.700 like you cannot

00:28:01.620 let these guys

00:28:02.400 get you down.

00:28:03.040 Do not let

00:28:03.680 them black pill

00:28:04.240 you.

00:28:04.600 Okay.

00:28:04.860 Cause then they

00:28:05.440 win.

00:28:06.080 Number two,

00:28:06.840 they hate it

00:28:08.040 when we laugh

00:28:08.680 at them.

00:28:09.400 Like I guarantee

00:28:10.380 you if any of

00:28:11.400 those,

00:28:11.760 like nerds

00:28:13.140 at this arts

00:28:13.920 council gets

00:28:14.680 ahold of this

00:28:15.280 and watches

00:28:15.700 this,

00:28:16.300 they're going

00:28:16.700 to be so

00:28:17.460 upset.

00:28:18.320 Like pearl

00:28:19.020 clutching,

00:28:19.960 like all of

00:28:20.720 the pearls

00:28:21.180 will be right

00:28:21.760 here.

00:28:22.040 They'll be so

00:28:22.580 upset.

00:28:23.280 I don't hate

00:28:24.020 the idea if

00:28:24.860 it makes them

00:28:25.260 feel any better.

00:28:26.200 I mean,

00:28:26.460 if it was,

00:28:26.880 if it was

00:28:27.360 $600,

00:28:28.620 which I think

00:28:29.640 could be a fair

00:28:30.260 not even.

00:28:33.120 I under,

00:28:33.940 okay,

00:28:34.240 again,

00:28:35.180 you know,

00:28:35.960 people's opinion

00:28:37.140 of art is

00:28:37.800 different.

00:28:38.380 That's fine.

00:28:39.880 Never make

00:28:40.700 your neighbor

00:28:41.060 pay for it.

00:28:42.120 Not one bit.

00:28:42.880 If your idea

00:28:43.660 to phone the

00:28:44.160 river,

00:28:44.500 Alex,

00:28:44.800 is like awesome

00:28:45.620 and spiritual

00:28:46.240 and stuff,

00:28:46.740 I do respect

00:28:47.620 that.

00:28:48.400 Hit up a

00:28:48.860 donor.

00:28:49.920 Seriously,

00:28:50.480 find a

00:28:50.900 donor,

00:28:51.500 okay?

00:28:52.140 Even a

00:28:52.540 non-profit

00:28:53.060 group or

00:28:53.480 something,

00:28:53.860 go find a

00:28:54.400 riverkeeper

00:28:54.900 group or

00:28:55.400 something and

00:28:56.260 say,

00:28:56.540 can we raise

00:28:57.040 money to do

00:28:57.600 this?

00:28:58.040 Because I

00:28:58.600 think it'll

00:28:58.980 raise awareness

00:28:59.560 about the

00:29:00.160 heart of the

00:29:00.720 river and the

00:29:01.220 health of the

00:29:01.680 river.

00:29:02.220 Now,

00:29:02.380 important it is,

00:29:02.980 that's totally

00:29:03.580 cool.

00:29:04.480 Don't,

00:29:05.000 like government

00:29:05.680 art should be a

00:29:07.240 contradiction in terms.

00:29:08.720 Alex,

00:29:09.060 if you really

00:29:09.480 want to call the

00:29:10.040 river and you

00:29:10.480 happen to have

00:29:10.840 65 grand laying

00:29:11.880 around,

00:29:12.220 I'll fly out

00:29:12.740 tomorrow and I'll

00:29:13.580 get it set up for

00:29:14.140 you.

00:29:14.840 Guaranteed.

00:29:15.420 I don't want to

00:29:16.200 call the river.

00:29:17.040 I'm just,

00:29:17.540 I'm trying to play.

00:29:18.540 I'm a contrarian.

00:29:19.580 I don't know.

00:29:19.940 I mean,

00:29:20.640 I like art

00:29:21.480 generally,

00:29:22.280 but I agree.

00:29:22.920 I think that

00:29:23.620 government art is an

00:29:24.420 oxymoron for sure.

00:29:25.820 It's so gross.

00:29:27.300 All right.

00:29:28.160 The next one is our

00:29:29.560 kicker and I am

00:29:30.820 not going to make

00:29:32.500 eye contact with

00:29:33.280 this story.

00:29:33.920 Sorry,

00:29:34.280 fellas.

00:29:34.760 This is,

00:29:35.340 this is going to be

00:29:36.520 your thing.

00:29:37.380 Speaking of

00:29:38.460 strange wastes of

00:29:39.860 money,

00:29:40.940 I wanted to just

00:29:41.840 throw this at you

00:29:42.720 guys,

00:29:43.220 Isaac and Alex.

00:29:44.440 This was a story

00:29:45.800 that strangely

00:29:46.960 surfaced earlier

00:29:47.960 this week.

00:29:48.660 I will say

00:29:50.320 that it does

00:29:51.360 end well.

00:29:53.520 So for folks

00:29:54.360 who are listening

00:29:54.880 or getting upset,

00:29:56.060 I would say,

00:29:57.900 thankfully,

00:29:59.080 that accountability

00:29:59.780 won the day.

00:30:01.240 It was a rare

00:30:01.740 victory for

00:30:02.400 a rare victory

00:30:03.340 and that it is

00:30:05.400 super important

00:30:06.600 to always be

00:30:08.000 in contact

00:30:09.340 with your levels

00:30:10.160 of government,

00:30:11.060 including your

00:30:11.840 school boards.

00:30:12.980 So here in

00:30:13.880 Alberta,

00:30:14.180 we can recall

00:30:15.040 school board

00:30:15.640 administrators if

00:30:16.460 they screw up.

00:30:17.360 In Ontario,

00:30:17.840 you can't do

00:30:18.520 that,

00:30:19.140 but this is

00:30:19.600 still a good

00:30:20.560 finish to this

00:30:21.320 story.

00:30:23.400 Pull it up

00:30:24.080 here.

00:30:24.320 Let's take a

00:30:24.760 look.

00:30:26.680 Okay.

00:30:27.320 I could take

00:30:28.060 it away,

00:30:28.420 Chris,

00:30:28.600 if you don't

00:30:28.980 want to,

00:30:29.500 because I know

00:30:30.020 you don't.

00:30:30.720 Please,

00:30:31.260 Isaac.

00:30:31.620 Yeah.

00:30:32.100 Yeah.

00:30:32.560 So basically,

00:30:33.620 this video

00:30:35.140 surfaced online

00:30:36.980 that showed a

00:30:38.080 male bus driver

00:30:38.880 stepping out of

00:30:40.240 this bus

00:30:40.920 wearing,

00:30:41.520 as you can

00:30:42.040 see,

00:30:42.260 a pink pleated

00:30:42.880 skirt,

00:30:43.400 thigh-high

00:30:43.720 stockings,

00:30:44.560 and a

00:30:45.060 sailor-style

00:30:45.640 top.

00:30:46.040 And then

00:30:46.500 there was

00:30:47.060 a sign in

00:30:47.720 the front

00:30:48.040 window,

00:30:48.400 which you

00:30:48.660 can barely

00:30:49.020 see,

00:30:49.840 which reads

00:30:50.460 Lolita

00:30:51.100 line,

00:30:52.600 which is the

00:30:54.260 most concerning

00:30:54.820 aspect,

00:30:55.200 if you can

00:30:55.840 believe that

00:30:56.360 to me,

00:30:57.320 because of

00:30:58.540 what Lolita

00:30:59.480 line might

00:31:00.200 signify.

00:31:00.920 And I'll let

00:31:01.220 you guys...

00:31:02.000 Yeah,

00:31:02.240 I didn't know

00:31:02.720 what this

00:31:03.060 meant.

00:31:03.580 So, yeah.

00:31:04.100 So basically,

00:31:05.080 Lolita was

00:31:05.640 popularized by

00:31:06.860 Vladimir Nabokov's

00:31:08.300 1955 novel of

00:31:10.240 the same name,

00:31:11.140 in which an

00:31:11.960 adult male narrator

00:31:12.980 sexually exploits

00:31:14.320 a 12-year-old

00:31:15.040 girl,

00:31:15.760 and in modern

00:31:16.340 usage is often

00:31:17.480 associated with

00:31:18.480 a subculture

00:31:19.300 involving the

00:31:20.100 sexualization of

00:31:21.300 young girls.

00:31:22.000 So, that's what

00:31:23.060 this bus driver is

00:31:23.680 doing.

00:31:23.900 You guys can

00:31:24.280 take away from

00:31:24.820 that whatever

00:31:25.460 you want.

00:31:26.140 Although,

00:31:27.360 just getting on

00:31:28.180 the good news

00:31:29.380 aspect,

00:31:30.200 the York

00:31:30.740 Catholic District

00:31:31.440 School Board

00:31:32.000 did confirm

00:31:32.980 that this

00:31:33.840 driver was

00:31:34.460 removed pretty

00:31:35.380 quickly right

00:31:36.160 after this all

00:31:36.800 surfaced.

00:31:37.500 But the fact

00:31:38.180 that the parents

00:31:39.440 had to confront

00:31:40.100 him, I mean,

00:31:40.720 that this was

00:31:41.420 even allowed to

00:31:42.120 happen for a

00:31:42.900 second, is

00:31:43.700 certainly concerning,

00:31:45.300 although at least

00:31:45.920 the parents can

00:31:47.120 rest easy tonight

00:31:48.320 knowing that this

00:31:49.540 person has been

00:31:50.120 fired.

00:31:50.740 And I don't know

00:31:51.500 what this bus

00:31:52.440 driver was thinking

00:31:53.140 and that they

00:31:54.400 maybe get away

00:31:55.100 with it, but

00:31:55.720 could it be

00:31:56.540 related to the

00:31:57.560 drag queen story

00:31:59.460 hour we've been

00:32:00.260 seeing take place

00:32:01.480 across all the

00:32:02.040 schools and the

00:32:02.560 glorification of

00:32:03.380 this kind of

00:32:03.880 behavior?

00:32:04.720 I mean, it

00:32:05.460 certainly is not

00:32:07.400 an easy story to

00:32:09.040 read.

00:32:09.700 I'll say that

00:32:10.500 much.

00:32:10.740 What do you

00:32:10.980 think, Alex?

00:32:12.040 So I'll be

00:32:13.140 honest with you.

00:32:13.820 I did not

00:32:14.360 interact with this

00:32:15.240 story at all

00:32:15.940 because it

00:32:16.540 reminded me a lot

00:32:17.380 of the Prosthetic

00:32:18.100 Breast guy in

00:32:19.240 Ontario.

00:32:19.960 Remember the

00:32:20.320 shop teacher who

00:32:21.060 had the giant

00:32:21.560 fake hooters or

00:32:23.180 whatever you want

00:32:23.640 to call them?

00:32:24.100 I don't know.

00:32:25.340 So I saw this.

00:32:27.180 I was like,

00:32:27.420 there's just no

00:32:27.920 way this is real

00:32:28.680 was my first

00:32:30.180 reaction.

00:32:30.620 I just could

00:32:31.500 not believe it

00:32:32.740 was a real

00:32:34.240 story.

00:32:35.840 Now, we were

00:32:36.900 talking off air

00:32:37.840 about how the

00:32:38.380 Prosthetic Breast

00:32:39.300 fellow, we think

00:32:40.680 that maybe he was

00:32:41.380 engaging in some

00:32:42.100 type of satire.

00:32:43.280 I will open it up

00:32:44.020 to the group.

00:32:44.600 Is it possible the

00:32:45.480 bus driver is doing

00:32:46.460 the same thing?

00:32:47.180 It's Pride Month.

00:32:48.060 He saw a bunch of

00:32:49.020 crazy stuff that he

00:32:50.120 just can't abide by

00:32:51.260 and decided that he

00:32:52.160 was also going to

00:32:53.260 go on a one-man

00:32:56.360 mission to reveal

00:32:58.100 the absurdity of

00:32:59.180 all this.

00:32:59.680 Is that possible?

00:33:00.460 I don't know.

00:33:00.880 I'm curious.

00:33:02.880 I'll say anything's

00:33:03.880 possible, but just

00:33:04.700 based on the

00:33:05.200 context and the

00:33:05.880 information I read

00:33:06.620 in the story and

00:33:07.220 what I kind of saw

00:33:07.860 online, I don't see

00:33:08.940 that as likely at

00:33:10.800 all, whereas with

00:33:11.480 the prosthetic

00:33:12.680 breast thing, I

00:33:13.260 think people kind

00:33:13.860 of knew from the

00:33:14.440 jump that it was

00:33:15.200 satire, and I

00:33:16.140 don't even know.

00:33:16.740 He might have even

00:33:17.260 gone as far as like

00:33:18.620 he was protesting

00:33:19.400 against them.

00:33:19.980 I think he might

00:33:20.680 have even publicly

00:33:21.260 stated that, whereas

00:33:22.020 this doesn't seem

00:33:23.220 to be the same.

00:33:24.840 I think we don't

00:33:28.180 have enough

00:33:28.620 information.

00:33:29.460 However, I was

00:33:31.140 surprised.

00:33:31.660 I guess I shouldn't

00:33:32.120 be surprised.

00:33:32.680 It made international

00:33:33.380 news.

00:33:34.060 It was in the New

00:33:34.620 York Post.

00:33:35.920 And as a parent and

00:33:37.840 somebody who likes

00:33:38.600 accountability in

00:33:39.380 government, the good

00:33:40.620 news is this was

00:33:42.400 dealt with instantly

00:33:43.520 from the looks of

00:33:44.300 it.

00:33:44.900 So like the same day

00:33:46.000 that I saw this

00:33:46.680 floating around on

00:33:47.400 X, I saw the same

00:33:49.320 sort of thing saying,

00:33:50.360 yeah, this is no

00:33:51.500 longer happening,

00:33:52.880 period.

00:33:53.100 So that individual

00:33:54.080 Yeah, I'm happy to

00:33:54.880 see that too.

00:33:56.100 You know, it's not

00:33:56.780 some long drawn out

00:33:57.540 thing where people

00:33:58.140 have to deal with

00:33:58.700 it.

00:33:59.000 And again, I will

00:33:59.920 bring this back to

00:34:00.840 the good ending and

00:34:01.880 the good message of

00:34:02.580 this story is it's

00:34:04.220 really important to

00:34:05.140 stay engaged.

00:34:06.280 So parents, it

00:34:07.940 doesn't matter who

00:34:08.500 you are, if you've

00:34:09.060 got kids or not,

00:34:09.860 okay, no matter

00:34:10.820 what area of

00:34:11.520 government it is,

00:34:12.460 stay engaged,

00:34:13.520 okay, stay connected

00:34:14.640 with this kind of

00:34:15.220 stuff.

00:34:15.620 If you see

00:34:16.060 something, say

00:34:16.560 something, okay,

00:34:18.060 make sure you take

00:34:18.940 it to the higher

00:34:19.500 authorities, make sure

00:34:20.860 you are the squeaky

00:34:21.740 wheel.

00:34:22.000 Because that is

00:34:23.400 the only way that

00:34:24.380 you can make sure

00:34:25.160 that you are getting

00:34:26.080 action on things and

00:34:27.200 making change that you

00:34:28.220 want to see happen.

00:34:29.520 Folks, I'm going to

00:34:30.300 leave you with that

00:34:30.940 very strange story.

00:34:33.000 But the good news is

00:34:34.300 is that it was

00:34:34.980 resolved quickly from

00:34:36.100 the sounds of it.

00:34:36.980 Thank you guys so much

00:34:38.000 for joining us.

00:34:38.980 And remember,

00:34:39.840 everything that we

00:34:40.700 have said is off the

00:34:41.920 record.

00:34:42.200 Do you think it is

00:34:46.960 possible that this guy

00:34:48.020 is like the

00:34:48.700 prosthetic breast guy?

00:34:49.700 I mean, it's an

00:34:50.240 interesting question.

00:34:51.140 Like I said, anything

00:34:51.740 possible just doesn't

00:34:53.280 seem likely, whereas

00:34:54.160 with the prosthetic

00:34:54.780 breast guy, as I said

00:34:55.800 from the jump, I think

00:34:56.500 that was kind of a

00:34:57.120 known thing, whereas

00:34:57.920 this guy, I don't

00:34:59.280 know.

00:34:59.480 And also, how long

00:35:01.020 had he been doing

00:35:01.580 this for?

00:35:02.660 Has it been months?

00:35:03.640 Like, I don't know.

00:35:04.820 I always, from my

00:35:06.080 experience, I know I

00:35:07.020 sound like Gandalf because

00:35:08.320 I'm older than you both,

00:35:09.120 but what you first

00:35:10.720 see is almost never

00:35:11.680 the case.

00:35:12.620 There's always, in my

00:35:13.740 experience, something

00:35:14.580 extra, so I don't

00:35:15.720 know.

Off the Record - June 20, 2025

Bus driver fired over “Lolita Line” outfit

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