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- June 07, 2024
Do the Liberals care about treason?
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9,531
Sentence Count
5
Misogynist Sentences
20
Hate Speech Sentences
12
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the most painful part of the show begins the whole show is painful what are you talking about
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by the way no where was the pink shirt you promised oh man uh i mean it's in some dresser
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over there in the side uh there's no chance i'm ever gonna see the light of day
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no i i promise you no you gotta liven it up it's a bright pink flamingo
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you see i'm not a i'm not a barbie man personally i i you know i prefer my uh bluish purplish shirt
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uh we can debate the color some other time but uh no i mean i think you'd look a lot better and
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andrew i have a well i have like a fuchsia e well actually i don't really know what fuchsia is
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it's like a purpley pink shirt that uh i was wearing accidentally color pardon me it's a great
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color you'll know it i like the shirt but i the problem is i i wore it in a documentary that i
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was interviewed for and then i accidentally wore it at the screening of the documentary so everyone
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there thought i i just had one shirt which was uh as far as the fashion faux pas i could make not the
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most embarrassing but you'll wear it when you go to winnipeg they've never seen anything other than
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gray over there oh that's just cruel all right let's get this started
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hello and welcome to off the record this is where we kick back analyze the week that was we delve
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into the things that true north has covered the things we didn't get to the things that we just
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feel like covering and talking about and we do it in a much more laid-back casual way it is
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oftentimes referred to as the friday train wreck actually no it's never been referred to that until
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now you want to call it the friday train wreck you can but it will be less of one with my two co-hosts
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for today i'm andrew lawton in case you missed the memo but we have rachel emmanuel our alberta
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correspondent and also host of alberta roundup and has some other stuff cooking that we'll have some
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details about for you pretty soon and noah jarvis you hear from time to time on the daily brief and
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also see his work over at tnc.news rachel noah good to have you back thanks for coming
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glad to be back glad that you are once again in the hosting chair as well
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it's always a blast to be on otr apparently the whole thing fell apart when i wasn't hosting
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a couple of weeks back and like harrison faulkner and william were basically just saying i'm i'm never
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doing this again uh with that without andrew hosting so now i've been like it was supposed
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to be this like rotating thing and now everyone's too scared to do it so what's the problem it's easy
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you just have a chat it's funny that every week it's like to our audience it's like oh man the show
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you know it's such a train wreck no one wants to host it anymore i feel like we probably need to
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do a little bit of a better job pitching it to people so that they actually you know come back
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time and time again to listen to it there was so so i actually had i had a book launch oh i had a
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little book tour and there was an event in toronto and noah came out and there was a guy there that came
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up to me who loved off the record and he there was a moment that he loved of yours noah and i did
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did you talk to him did he tell you this in person yeah we were talking it's like oh you know
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i really loved your uh when you called uh rachel emmanuel miss emmanuel i'm like oh well i'm glad
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at least someone got some humor yeah because noah like everyone's been like relentlessly making fun
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of noah since that but this guy is like yeah that's the highlight of the show i loved it i loved
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when noah just looked at rachel as though she was some like weird scary school marm you know
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it's also not accurate you're not using the language accurately i'm not a miss i'm a missus so you
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have to get it right noah it's important was it miss or miz that you got i'm pretty sure it's
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missus before you get married no i don't know it's not no it's miss it used to be miss before you get
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married and then missus when you're married but now it's some school teachers definitely messed me up
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yeah some school teachers got it uh confused sorry are you all for the five people in the audience
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remaining after that stellar introduction i just wonder if i just wonder if noah's like legally
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old enough to work here should we double check that you know i think it up with hr if you have
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a human rights complaint about that uh the baseless ageism you've just experienced but uh all right
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let's get let's get into this one story here so uh jennifer o'connell is a liberal member of parliament
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and i'm just going to warn people we are going to do an ai generated song for this but i didn't make
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it but we'll get to that in a bit uh rachel what happened this week so the national security and
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intelligence committee released a report saying that there was many mps that have been accused
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of collaborating with foreign governments now when this report was released predictably the liberal
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government redacted the names of the mp who've been accused of this so naturally you know the
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conservatives have been putting pressure on the government to try to get those names
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as i think we would all like to see during a committee meeting this week the conservative mps were
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questioning you know trying to get this these names released and liberal mp jennifer o'connell kind of
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kept heckling during committee which is a big no-no in committee you're supposed to let the member who
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has the chair do the speaking you're not supposed to be heckling and jennifer o'connell can just be
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heard in the background going boo-hoo boo-hoo get over it you know no big deal that there's been
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foreign interference in canada who cares and this ended up going really really badly for her um there
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were some tweets about it going on around online it ended up blowing up with people kind of from
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all aisles really condemning this action and saying how inappropriate this was i don't think
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she expected this condemnation i'm sure she's regretting her actions now just gonna throw this
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out there when i first started covering parliament hill just out of university i immediately noticed
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something was off with jennifer o'connell i've never really liked her she's one of those mps
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who's just beyond partisan like she can never really get anything done in committee because
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she's just so focused on her partisan agenda and i feel like she doesn't work collaboratively with
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other members that was something i noticed in the beginning and just kind of having seen some
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of her actions like this one play out if you feel very validated in having identified that about her
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early on but uh yeah so then i guess it was stephen taylor who online made this ai generated song
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about the whole incident i think we have a clip of that we can play it's definitely nowhere near as
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good as the songs that andrew makes if you want to hear some really good ai generated songs you'll
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have to head on over to the alberta roundup after this yeah take that stephen taylor your
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ai songs suck it sucks yeah no let's play that that song now though and i go in parliament they
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make a lot of noise mps and their secrets playing with foreign toys she's not albertan yeah i don't
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know why she's doing like a country banjo oh my dear peer isn't that just sad it's all just treason yeah
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isn't it a joke silly games and power plays these mps provoke but the real betrayal
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it's crystal clear you're not with justin you here
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yeah step aside taylor swift in the eras tour uh jennifer o'connell coming to stadiums near you with
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her hit single boo who get over it which which is actually come to think of it's actually a good name
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for a song uh boo who get over it it's not uh you know for a member of you know his majesty's
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parliament uh particularly becoming but oh boy the song title itself is funny the lyrics could use a
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little bit tweaking actually when i saw this online and did get a lot of traction and i'm glad that we're
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all you know calling this out and and also making jokes about it i'm glad the song was made to draw
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further attention to the issue but it did remind me of probably my favorite line from andrew lawton's
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recent book here probably have a political life was when he was telling the story about peer
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probably of eating that apple while doing an interview that went really viral online and then
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all the parliamentarians posed for a photo with a with an apple the following day and he basically
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said it just shows politicians ability to make something fun and cool and turn it into something
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that is lame i think that's kind of what we're seeing here yeah i did a good memory i that was uh
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yeah i wrote that and i think i might have even argued with my publisher about that because he thought
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it was too opinionated i'm like no if we can't call the photo of like 100 people holding an apple lame i don't
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know uh what we can but uh uh no what what's your take on the whole uh boohoo thing from jennifer o'connell
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well i think it's pretty interesting that uh you know she's supposed to swear an oath before she
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sits in parliament uh and you know she's supposed to defend uh not only our constitution but also our
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national security yet she uh goes to the committee and basically uh you know shows that she's scornful
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of mps who want to you know get to the truth of who uh may be collaborating with uh foreign governments
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i mean uh when you go to the ballot box uh in 2025 are you going to be 100 confident that the person
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you're voting for hasn't collaborated with uh say the chinese government or the say the iran iranian
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government it's a really serious stuff and you know we can uh make ai generated uh songs about this
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because you know uh it helps the lighten the mood about something you know very dark and uh you know
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sinister but at the end of the day uh yeah it is really crappy that jennifer o'connell is you know
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doing this as an elected mp uh i think you know canadians deserve more accountability not from o'connell
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but uh from all the mps uh that who are collaborating with um say india or china so i i don't actually
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think she is one of the subjects of foreign interference if only because that would be like
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the worst way to spend money if you're china like you're you're getting jennifer o'connell that's just
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like what was that yeah yeah i think china will just see her as like a useless you know yeah they're
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like no no no we don't you're doing enough interfering on your own you don't even china
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doesn't claim her so i i will say i won my one jennifer o'connell story i this was like two or
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three weeks ago i was at the airport and i was waiting for my flight and she was she sat right
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beside me uh not knowing who i was just it was one of those long long tables and it was packed she sat
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beside me and i wasn't trying to snoop i was just you know enjoying my coffee and she don't give me
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that look rachel i was not trying to snoop in fact i think i like angled away when i saw it was jennifer
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o'connell because i'm like i just don't want to deal with this but then i saw it just happened to see
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because she had it on her phone and it was held out in front of her she was posting something on
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instagram it took her 15 minutes to write the caption for the thing she was posting on instagram
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and like i saw like i have never seen someone working so hard to write two sentences and at
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the end of it it may be like really fascinating because i couldn't see what she was writing i just
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saw that she was working on and then like you know when i was getting on my flight i was like oh i
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wonder if she finally figured out the instagram thing so i went on her instagram and saw the post and
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it was like great times seeing so and so in the riding on the weekend and that was like i was like it
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took you 15 minutes for that so the fact that she said boohoo get over it in like five seconds
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i actually think is a step in the right direction she's becoming a lot quicker yeah yeah but maybe
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if she had stopped to take the time to double check and you know really think about do i want to say
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this could have ended a little bit better for her fortunately you know for us it's hilarious and we
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can make light of this issue now i have to kind of wonder though about this report they haven't
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released the names do we even know which parties these mps were found in like do you think there's any
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chance we're going to get any details on this let's say we were to see a conservative government
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in a year do you think there's a chance that they would release the names because i feel like this is
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a matter that is canadians deserve to know like we have the right to know what the heck is going on
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who are these mps that have been working with foreign governments it's a huge allegation yeah
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yeah i know i talked about it a bit with sam cooper who runs the bureau on my show i think it was
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yesterday and sam cooper was basically of the mind that there's not really a mechanism to compel the
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government to release the name so he was sort of indicating that things will have to be leaked
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that someone who is involved with this report or someone in the intelligence community will have
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to basically just go to a reporter and be like here you know look at this envelope and it would be
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illegal to do that but ultimately we're at the point when the government is being so non-transparent
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that's really the only option i i think there are probably people from different parties implicated i
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think there are probably people in the conservatives there are probably people in the liberals
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the issue is that the liberals know the liberals know i think or have access to it and aren't
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sharing it whereas the conservatives they can't make any decisions they can't punish anyone kick
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anyone out of caucus refer anyone to police unless the names are shared so the fact that you have the
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block the ndp and the conservatives all saying to the government yeah name the names we we need that
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if if our caucus has been infiltrated we want to know that and these parties just don't have that
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available it's it's insane and to your point earlier noah like here we have you know yeah
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we're making light of it because it's off the record but there's a very serious issue underlying
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this and i think jennifer connell's boohoo get over it the reason that's such an attractive story
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in and of itself is because it reflects i think the liberal flippance and uh flippancy flippance flippance
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i think uh the liberal flippance or just disregard for the seriousness of this
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do you think that if the conservatives were to i asked no other question
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you're woman-splaining to noah i gotta i gotta get in when i can't you guys dominate you know
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your loud voices are always fair enough well we have to make space for women's voices so yeah
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either one of you just don't want to do something
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it was flippancy by the way i got it wrong it wasn't flippance anyway carry on
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oh well uh you know you're supposed to be our editor it really undermines confidence
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i really am i get to tell you guys when you make mistakes i'm not supposed to make them myself
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no one i both knew it was wrong but we just didn't want to get penalized later so we kept our mouths
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shut yeah i don't want to get demoted or fired or anything this show was a terrible idea all right
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no i just say words this is this is this is the business we're train wrecking the train wreck out of
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this yeah uh for interference bad um but yeah no i think like uh you know the liberal flippance with
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this issue it's really concerning you see it you know not just uh what uh with this recently revealed
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uh ensacop report but also with just how they've dealt with say the hand dong situation you know
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a hand dong was a mp sit sitting in their caucus and trudeau knew that uh he was collaborating with
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the chinese communist party uh the people's republic of china and he did nothing about it he had to wait
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until it was leaked to the media and only then did he kick him out of caucus so uh it's not like this
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is a new thing trudeau just doesn't care about national security concerns he only cares about
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the carbon tax and building back better or whatever the hell he does i wonder go ahead i wonder if let's
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say we have a conservative government in a year's time they finally get their hands on these names if
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it's not leaked by a government whistleblower first do you think that they would make the names public
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or do you think they take a look at the list and say oh you know this actually looks pretty bad for
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us too let's just uh let's keep this quiet especially now that the news cycle has long passed
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yeah it's a really tough question because on one hand when that will have happened they will have
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just one election and potentially some of these people will have just one election so do you you
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know five days after you're sworn in look at you know some guy joe blow who was just elected in you
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know scarborough whatever and say oh no i didn't really you're get out of there you're you're
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implicated in this and so look if i were the conservatist right now i'd be going through their
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caucus and being like listen you've got one chance to own up do you have any reason to believe that
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you are on this list and if so what have you done but again it's it's ridiculous and and i think
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the point that sam cooper had made which i think is an incredibly valuable one is that we don't really
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have the legal mechanisms to deal with this right now and even the rcmp which is supposedly
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investigating this i saw someone say and i haven't verified it independently but it was someone
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credible who said it they've got an ad hoc department with seven people looking into this
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so they've just sort of found like seven random people in the lunchroom and said um yeah you guys
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okay we got a national security thing come on over and these people are not experts in this they have
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not spent their careers in this they're not even from an intelligence background necessarily a couple
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of them may have some experience but it's not even like the police are equipped to deal with this it's
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just this situation that people are only talking about now that's been happening for really for
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decades i mean going back to the 1940s we've had foreign interference from the soviets in canada
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but no one has really in this country tried to shore up our defenses against it oh that's deeply
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troubling maybe the government needs to spend a little bit investing in cra agents who can track
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down you for not you know claiming that 40 that you earned last year and maybe invest the real
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menaces to society yeah i kind of suspect i kind of suspect that the conservatives wouldn't release
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the names a year later unless it became like a hot issue again with the media asking about it which i
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don't think we would see in a year's time just because the news cycle would have passed and if it
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looks kind of bad unless they've been able to get ahead of it and been like this is the names this is
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how we've dealt with this issue and they're able to get ahead of the news story in that way
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if they're on the defensive i don't think they would release it because like i said the news
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it's like something similar with the increases to capital gains like people are upset about that
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now are they still going to be upset about it when we have a conservative government to the point that
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the conservative government will then roll back those taxes yeah and to go back to the the book
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that you so kindly plugged pierre polyev a political life available now on amazon and from indigo there
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there's a part of that and i've talked about it in some interviews in the last couple of weeks that
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talks about what a polyev government would be like what it would do and everyone agrees that they
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need to hit the ground running if he wins and they're sworn in you know october 2025 and do so
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much but there's only so much you can do in 100 days and and i don't know to your point rachel if
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releasing this thing that everyone's talking about right now is going to be at the top of the priority
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list in a year and a half when that conceivable future government forms or if it's the kind of thing
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that we just move on from like remember the canadian government has kept classified a list of nazi war
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criminals in canada that was done like you know 40 years ago and still they they won't release it so
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transparency is not the default position of the canadian government in general well i mean pierre
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polyev is doubtless listening to this right now so hopefully he'll take your advice andrew and he'll be
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going through his caucus and they'll be well prepared to release those names when and if you should
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foreign government no a last word on this yeah i think uh just to add on your points i think there's
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not a lot of incentive for uh polyev to do that when he gets into government because he'd have to
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sort of develop a legal infrastructure that is not there you think during our experience with the
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soviets this sort of legal infrastructure would have been developed but right now it's easier to
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prosecute whistleblowers than it is to prosecute those implicated in the reports that the whistleblowers
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are exposing to the public uh so you know polyev would have to pass laws to develop his legal
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infrastructure taking away political capital opportunity to say you know uh do
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whatever his other priorities are so i don't think this is something that's going to be
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addressed although if it is uh that would be a welcome surprise all right that is it for this
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topic we shall move on now to i was excited about this one and then i realized that as the i don't
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know when so i used to be the young person in many rooms then i blinked and i became the old person
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in many contexts and that includes at true north so rob schneider who's a comedian that i thought
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everyone knew uh rachel had only like oh yeah i think i've you know i think i've heard the name
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or maybe i you know saw him in something that was you know playing on tv when i was slipping through
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the channels and noah just said who the heck is rob schneider so rob schneider used to be
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a comedy legend he was on saturday night live back in the day he's been in like all the adam sandler
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movies he was the the his famous line in a few of them was you can do it uh which he's done as all
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sorts of characters he was in like all the adam sandler movies he was also in well i guess they
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were adam sandler movies too but grown-ups one and two which were really funny uh so rob schneider is
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a stand-up comedian now he has been as the kids say increasingly based in recent years on matters
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of politics he's always tweeting he once retweeted me because i had tweeted a clip of danielle smith and
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rob schneider like really has a crush on danielle smith it seems like he's shared that a couple of times
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he has i think approvingly shared uh true north stuff he's approvingly shared pierre pauliev clips
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he's very very critical of justin trudeau he is very political he's very outspoken he's not a big fan
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of covid policy and all of that anyway this is a lengthy wind up to he's invited to speak at a hospital
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fundraiser in regina now hospital fundraisers i generally think are more buttoned down affairs
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so bringing a comedian in general carries its risk bringing a comedian that has been fully
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transparent about what he stands for all the more risky it did not end well for the hospital so they
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thought he was stopped midway through his set and asked to leave the stage and the hospital put out
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an apology uh basically groveling and saying sorry for the jokes he told that were just so offensive
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and harmful without sharing what those jokes were now i so i looked into this i've not seen any video
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but there was a thread on reddit in which someone had asked for the details about the performance
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and someone shared so again i i can't verify this i i'm just you know reading some of the notes that
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someone else took a little bit after the fact apparently he jumped into how trudeau made everyone
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get vaccines he called it a scamdemic and then he uh moved to uh one joke that was back in my day we
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liked our women without penises and told uh the joke was that his son is really bad at sports he said
00:21:52.840
you should say he's a girl say you're a girl and then you'll have a better chance uh then he discussed
00:21:57.480
the new york times using the term menstruating people instead of women so he's been accused of
00:22:03.240
uh transphobia and all this stuff and and again a lot of this this is being written by a critic so
00:22:08.440
i don't know if it was funny or if it was a political rant like because there are left-wing
00:22:13.160
politics comics that go up and they just do like a you know an unhinged rant and there's no real
00:22:18.080
punchline i don't know if he was doing like the conservative version of that or not but uh apparently
00:22:23.040
he just you know was was not uh popular in the room at the time but then i'm also of the mind that
00:22:29.620
like what were you expecting it sounds like everything he said is everything he's been tweeting
00:22:34.580
about for the last five years so uh who's to blame here noah rob schneider or the vagina hospital
00:22:39.700
oh it's definitely the vagina hospital i've been to for some weird reason don't ask me why but i've
00:22:46.080
been to one hospital fundraiser in my life and my gosh that's like the last like sort of event i
00:22:51.340
would want to invite rob schneider to i would not i would invite him to like a cookout or like you
00:22:56.340
know uh it's like something that's you know you're supposed to have some energy and uh liveliness
00:23:01.060
to not uh a fundraiser like that i i think you know if you just scroll through his twitter like
00:23:06.460
i did you know for a few minutes after uh discovering who rob schneider was uh in the um group chat and
00:23:13.120
uh for true north i i looked through his twitter i'm like yeah this guy clearly is a right winger he
00:23:18.420
liked daniel smith he doesn't like vaccines you know great i know who this person is you know it's a
00:23:24.020
great encapsulation of like who is it if you just go through his twitter so um it's really you know
00:23:28.760
a shame that you know they couldn't sit back relax and enjoy some good jokes that they hey they might
00:23:33.740
disagree with but you know it's it's comedy uh i you know i think you know dave chapelle he makes
00:23:39.180
jokes that i disagree about or um you know other comedians i can take jokes and enjoy jokes about
00:23:45.500
people that you know i generally like and i move on with my day because you know i'm not like
00:23:50.900
a political demagogue you know i have a soul uh i can you know laugh at things so i i think you know
00:23:57.440
either the people at that fundraiser should um you know grow a funny bone or they should not invite
00:24:03.320
rob schneider you know pick one i think the difference between like the left and the right
00:24:07.600
is that the right can laugh at themselves and the left absolutely cannot very difficult to do when
00:24:12.160
your whole personality is based off of being a victim sounds like his set was hilarious i would like
00:24:16.800
to get my hands on a video copy of that so that i could wow my family at our next get together
00:24:20.920
it'd be the life of the party doubtless but uh maybe we could have him at our next you know true
00:24:25.880
north event do a do a nice stand-up piece for everyone he could even just you know we'll say
00:24:29.880
listen we'll give you half your rate you don't have to write any new material you can just deliver
00:24:34.020
what you gave at that fundraiser and you don't deliver the set that you didn't get to finish do the
00:24:38.660
stuff they pulled you off stage before you got to i'd also like to set the record straight i looked
00:24:43.520
him up and i once i saw his face i was like of course i know who rob schneider is this is going
00:24:47.880
to be controversial but i actually do like some adam sandler movies i feel like i snuck i remember
00:24:53.300
sneaking into the theaters when i was a little underage to see grown-ups and it's a hilarious
00:24:57.860
film oh you were underage when grown-ups came out i think it was like yeah i think i was in like
00:25:03.200
middle school yeah you were in daycare you actually weren't a grown-up when grown-ups came out that's
00:25:08.220
how old i am okay yeah so you know he's he's he's a gem i might actually reach out maybe he wants to
00:25:13.200
come on the alberta roundup and deliver his set there who knows i think i tried after he retweeted
00:25:18.120
me just hoping for the best but my fear is that so i don't have a way to contact him directly he
00:25:22.320
doesn't follow me on twitter so i couldn't dm him i so i reached out to his manager but i but the
00:25:26.640
problem with a lot of these celebrities is that they're conservative but their managers like hate
00:25:31.440
politics and hate and and wish they would stop talking about politics so when the manager gets like
00:25:35.840
someone from the right reaching out to them they're like desperately trying to like keep the person
00:25:39.500
away because pat sajak was like that because pat sajak the wheel of fortune host at one point had
00:25:44.740
said he wanted to come on my show and then when i was talking to the publicist it was oh no no he's
00:25:49.320
he's not talking about politics anymore and then he like you know it's talking about politics everywhere
00:25:53.660
else well and i think to add to things is like the manager's looking at this and they're like oh he's
00:25:58.620
not going to make any money off of this it's just a free appearance it means i'm not going to make
00:26:01.780
any money off of it so yeah yeah yeah 10 of zero is uh is uh my math's a little bit fussy i think
00:26:07.860
it's zero um so the thing i will point out about adam sandler so adam sandler i actually have adam
00:26:13.360
sandler's email address and i've never used it i it's the kind of thing it's like you get to use it
00:26:17.760
once so maybe i should just try to get adam sandler on the show i don't want to use it to like
00:26:21.620
hey can you forward this to rob schneider please i feel like that's a waste of the adam sandler email
00:26:26.260
yeah don't do that use it next year during the election uh you know have him uh on the election
00:26:30.820
true north election night show uh bring adam sandler doing our election extravaganza yeah
00:26:36.220
it'll be great just have him cracking jokes whenever we're like waiting hours and hours for results to
00:26:41.980
come out throughout the night it's like all right adam you're up what do you got for us i don't know
00:26:45.520
if you guys saw this so adam sandler i think it was last year might have been two years ago he was
00:26:48.880
filming a movie in toronto and like everyone was just running into him he was just like walking around
00:26:54.520
toronto like all day every day so like every day you'd go on like blog to and there'd be like
00:26:59.320
someone else that has grabbed some like random selfie with adam sandler in yorkville and i was
00:27:03.600
like i just apparently if you just like camp out in yorkville long enough you'll meet adam sandler it
00:27:06.880
actually sounded like a good plan but would not not one that i wanted to brave toronto traffic to
00:27:11.180
make happen so maybe it was around the same time i or maybe it was a different time but he was in
00:27:15.200
niagara on the lake and i remember he was out for dinner and then he there was a line of people that
00:27:19.160
wanted to take photos with him and he came and he took photos with everyone then he said all right guys that's
00:27:22.840
like enough now i'd like to eat my dinner in peace and sounded like he handled the whole thing very
00:27:26.160
respectfully so i always have a little more admiration for celebrities when you know they
00:27:29.740
treat other people like like real people and you know are able to set those boundaries so i don't
00:27:34.180
know seems like a cool guy we we always try to look out for the real people as celebrities
00:27:39.260
well i wouldn't know andrew you're the only one who gets that yeah no i was someone someone's weird
00:27:44.900
someone came up to me the other day and you're like you're my favorite celebrity i'm like wow
00:27:47.740
either it's a small group or man you are delusional but uh i'll take it you're a canadian
00:27:54.020
conservative celebrity how about that low way down yeah yeah we've really really lowered the
00:27:58.400
price like there's the b list the c list the d list i'm like the z list uh or the z list i guess
00:28:03.620
in canada but uh anyway uh good old that's why i need can con with it without uh can con you know
00:28:08.500
who would ever uh who would ever pay attention to the likes of me um all right we were talking oh cbc
00:28:13.240
speaking of can con all right noah i won't make you do the one but you have to do the other one
00:28:18.580
on cbc okay great uh no one's actually not talking about the same one right hold on hold on noah's
00:28:25.620
actually not legally old enough to talk about the other one it's just too yeah so we have two cbc
00:28:31.160
stories but noah was like blushing before when i was trying to get him to do the lead into the one
00:28:36.980
so we've decided to spare him it's because the last episode you guys made me do that weird uh story
00:28:42.880
about the the the whole sex thing uh the sex club in alberta so i'm like you guys are gonna
00:28:50.020
like yeah it's all the rage things off to me you know okay this could be a pattern but uh yeah
00:28:57.520
anyway um so the cbc uh they are you know the government's greatest uh you know actually no
00:29:04.960
the government's least greatest creation ever because they're just a rag for the liberal government
00:29:09.520
basically uh on d-day to celebrate the 80th anniversary of it a cbc uh their kids department
00:29:16.300
they asked uh they want to ask the kids whether or not they feel as if uh it is important to
00:29:22.560
commemorate uh d-day so they're basically just deferring responsibility uh to the kids to
00:29:27.860
basically determine whether or not it's important to commemorate uh certain uh events like d-day and to
00:29:33.780
commemorate the veterans that fought and died uh at uh in europe uh for our freedoms and liberties
00:29:40.680
and they're basically asking these kids if we should we should be glorifying war that's uh what uh
00:29:46.480
commemorating the veterans and soldiers uh who fought at d-day uh is doing i think you know a lot
00:29:53.720
of canadians find this to be uh completely outrageous uh you know this is already a time uh of these past
00:30:00.340
nine years where uh instead of commemorating and celebrating our history we're tearing it down
00:30:06.020
and instead calling our country genocidal and racist and now we can't even celebrate the people
00:30:11.400
who have uh helped to make this country possible for over 150 years i mean you know the people who
00:30:18.080
fought at d-day are some of the people who uh you know if not for them uh if say the nazis had won
00:30:25.820
world war ii or in the cold war the soviets have overcome the west uh we wouldn't enjoy uh the the
00:30:32.540
rights and liberties and freedoms that we all enjoy today so i think it's quite offensive i take it
00:30:38.060
personally uh that you know the that cbc kids would try and uh promote this to the younger generation
00:30:44.220
uh and it's just you know just goes to show that the cbc is utter propaganda they promote a very
00:30:50.100
far left uh narrative they pretend like it's not happening uh when you reach out to them for
00:30:56.020
comment uh and they continue to do this it seems as if a lot of canadians are right and asking for
00:31:01.920
the cbc to be defunded uh what do you guys think about this story i think you hit the nail on the
00:31:06.880
head this is a really perverse headline from the cbc the opposite the opposite of what they're writing
00:31:11.640
is actually true the veterans who died they died to protect democracy they died to protect freedom
00:31:16.020
and recognizing days like d-day and and you know veterans day memorials day depending on where you
00:31:22.160
are this is an acknowledgement of the fact that people died to for our freedoms and just the
00:31:27.800
sadness and the heaviness of those stories there's a reason why we might go to a cenotaph and listen to
00:31:32.220
a veteran speak and why we might read a story about people who died and some who lived and saw their
00:31:36.160
friends and brothers die around them because it's important to acknowledge the price that they paid
00:31:39.840
for our freedoms and just the sadness and the heaviness that they have to carry throughout
00:31:44.600
with the rest of their lives um and all the lives that were lost in these wars so the opposite of
00:31:49.320
it is actually true it's actually a day to recognize sacrifices that people made and to be respectful of
00:31:54.340
those sacrifices it is absolutely not celebrating war and i think you know one of the things that we
00:32:00.300
see less and less of today is we do see a lot less of that combat with you know the development of
00:32:05.440
things like bombs and whatnot and and uh drones to an extent and you know when we do see a high death
00:32:11.180
toll nowadays it is less common um because of the way that wars change but you know back when you
00:32:15.920
look at world war one world war two that was really a unique time and even the civil war i was
00:32:19.480
just down in gettysburg i was looking about the american civil war all the tens of thousands
00:32:23.660
of people that died in gettysburg um and it's just we don't have combat like that very often
00:32:28.280
anymore and it's just the death toll in those cases was so high and the wars were so bloody and so
00:32:34.540
gruesome and so hard for their soldiers to live through and that was at a time when we didn't
00:32:38.100
recognize soldiers coming back the trauma that they carried and we have a better understanding
00:32:42.020
of that now and we're able to pay respects to those soldiers for what they didn't understand
00:32:45.900
how that has affected them through their whole lives you know in many in many cases these soldiers
00:32:49.900
have had to carry that with them and have really struggled just day to day because of the trauma
00:32:53.260
that they've suffered so i think the opposite of it's not a celebration of war it's understanding
00:32:58.040
how difficult that was and how much some people sacrificed for us and wanting to honor them
00:33:03.140
for that so i i want to i just actually checked uh during this uh right now and realized they've
00:33:11.020
updated it so the true north gets action they originally had the following question is it
00:33:17.040
important to commemorate battles like d-day why or why not and then they say it can be argued
00:33:23.220
that commemorating military battles is celebrating and glorifying war but it can also be seen as a
00:33:29.180
moment of reflection on the importance of peace so what do you think is it important to remember
00:33:33.820
an honorary and honor our military pastor is it celebrating violence so they've they've now erased
00:33:38.300
all of that and the article has a little editor's note appended we published this article to hear
00:33:43.400
from kids about how they feel about d-day how we set up the original question made it seem like
00:33:48.840
made it sound like d-day isn't important we have revised the question an article to be clear about
00:33:53.680
what we meant and now the new question is do you commemorate d-day and what does it mean to you so
00:33:59.720
they've taken out this whole celebration of violence nonsense which you occasionally get from these like
00:34:04.840
far far left radical anti-war types around remembrance day but anyone with half a brain and and more
00:34:13.440
will find them to be ridiculous because they realize that war has happened no one likes war the issue is
00:34:18.740
do we believe that war should be won by people like the nazis or do we believe that they should
00:34:23.680
be stopped and the only way you can stop them is through war and d-day was as you guys have said and
00:34:28.700
are well aware the turning point of this that delivered ultimately the allied victory not long
00:34:33.660
later so i i think i don't even know if a lot of this is coming from someone at cbc just being a radical
00:34:40.480
anti-war activist i think it's people that just don't know history and i think that's the real tragedy in
00:34:44.780
all of this but even the way that they reframed that it said it can be argued okay so who's arguing
00:34:50.380
that who's arguing that what was the name they gave that it sounds like cbc you're the ones who are
00:34:54.300
arguing that yeah it's like the some people say question yes exactly journalists do this all the
00:34:58.620
time not to seem like you know a shell for your book but you talk about this in your book extensively
00:35:02.460
that when when reporters ask specifically peer poly of questions and say some people say that you know
00:35:08.020
you're uh introducing donald's donald trump style politics into canada and you'll say well who's saying
00:35:12.980
that and they often can't actually back up their claims because it's actually they're the ones who
00:35:16.620
are saying that so it's really cbc you know maybe it's for the best that they change this headline
00:35:20.420
i don't really i'm beyond giving cbc any credit for anything anymore it's just i'm beyond tired of
00:35:25.460
the stuff that they publish and the fact that my taxpayer dollars are funding it yeah and people know
00:35:31.120
that this is not like the glorification of war i mean when the countries engage in unjust conflicts
00:35:37.360
you know people uh they they express their backlash to it when uh the united states they engage in the
00:35:42.480
iraq war i mean a lot of people are initially supportive of it but a lot of people condemned
00:35:46.720
that war because you know it was an unjust war and you know we still have to uh support the soldiers
00:35:51.740
that bravely fought in that war they didn't ask to be uh shipped out to a middle eastern country to
00:35:57.600
uh you know you know give their life uh you know so we have to celebrate the the people that fought in
00:36:03.800
these wars but we can also condemn you know the the just nature of uh you know a war that is fought
00:36:10.100
but world war ii it is cut and dry it is black and white the nazis they wanted to you know they
00:36:15.580
want to expand their territory they wanted living space and they wanted to uh genocide uh people who
00:36:20.560
they viewed as inferior and the only way to stop them was through war uh so not only should we be
00:36:26.080
commemorating the soldiers that fought in the war but we should be also commemorating uh that canada
00:36:31.560
stood up against the nazis we stood up uh before the united states did uh as some uh sort of canadian
00:36:37.500
nationalists would uh brag uh but you know we stood up against the nazis we fought valiantly
00:36:42.160
and bravely and we defeated them all right and from one cbc story to another uh there was a headline
00:36:50.860
on cbc canada's horniest newsletter is changing the way we think about sex desire and queer culture now
00:36:59.860
i assure you it's not my substack that is not canada's horniest newsletter and i certainly hope it's
00:37:04.240
not changing the way you think about desire but uh cbc wants you to know about this look at the
00:37:09.420
graphic they use to promote the article here by the way uh they're wishing us all a very lovely
00:37:14.160
greeting uh we are all able to ah there you go cbc wishes you have a horny day that is for 1.4
00:37:22.140
billion dollars well spent now they're uh spotlighting a gentleman from toronto named
00:37:27.260
christopher sherman who i i believe that it put that thing up there i believe that's him doing like
00:37:32.060
the rose from titanic uh sprawl out on the uh the couch there but uh they just to read the article
00:37:38.520
maybe i shouldn't read the article um do i make you read the article no what no i can't do that's an
00:37:45.420
i don't think i don't think i don't think we can have this discussion with christopher sherman knows a few
00:37:49.860
things with certainty they include but are not limited to the following the male g-spot is in the
00:37:56.280
butt kindness is horny and censorship breeds small minds but one aphorism he lives by is this
00:38:03.320
always have a horny day oh there's more oh my bare bottoms exposed crotches and words of sexual
00:38:10.720
diversity can be found in the issues of sherman's horny newsletter shot on a digital camera sherman
00:38:17.160
challenges societal taboos about sex and well horniness poetry short essays and tales of desires
00:38:24.040
are shared by artists musicians and other creatives alongside intimate photography uh this was a birth
00:38:30.580
cbc tells us out of the isolation of the 2020 pandemic uh there's i look i am not one of these
00:38:37.740
i probably am actually a bit of a prude but i i'm a free speech lover if you want to write about this go
00:38:42.720
for it it's a weird thing for cbc to profile and it's a one that i find to be just it makes me wonder
00:38:52.220
if i'm getting my money's worth on that 1.4 billion dollars i think saying it's a weird thing to cover
00:38:57.360
is being a little bit generous there andrew i don't want to be accused of what they call kink
00:39:01.100
shame because again i i don't have an issue with what people do i i just have an issue with paying
00:39:06.000
to be told about it well i'll take that label i think this is disgusting i don't think anyone should
00:39:10.480
be writing about it i certainly don't want to hear about it i certainly don't want my taxpayer dollars
00:39:14.160
funding any type of coverage about it we are trying to live in a society people can we not have
00:39:18.660
some standards my goodness disgusting noah what's your take you know my my thinking is like what
00:39:25.040
bureaucrat you know thought of this idea is you know they did woke up one day it's like i have a
00:39:30.000
brilliant idea i got to present to my bosses we gotta create a newsletter about that this like well now
00:39:37.540
in fairness cbc is not doing the horniness newsletter they're they're promoting the horniness newsletter
00:39:42.400
okay but like you know why do you why does the cbc feel like this is a value to like taxpayers i mean
00:39:49.400
uh you know they could be they they could have been airing um you know the nfl's uh playoff games and
00:39:55.440
instead of you know spending money on the person who was supposed to write about d-day was like wasting
00:40:00.040
their time reading the newsletter and uh didn't read up on the history of d-day i think that's what
00:40:04.480
happened you know andrew when you're going into those details i thought like you know this was like
00:40:10.500
some university level biology class that i just like stumbled in on you know what are you taking
00:40:17.060
at university i'm listen it's not the classes i'd be taking i it's not something i learned in my
00:40:23.720
political science program uh so yeah this one um is a little bit uh different than the normal subjects
00:40:30.020
we cover i mean this could actually be in like a bc public school curriculum though based on what i've
00:40:34.660
heard from some parents there now the one point i will raise on this which i i find kind of
00:40:40.120
interesting because people whenever you do a story like this people are always like oh well
00:40:45.460
you know who cares what other people do read cbc's first person section it's like the best source of
00:40:50.940
comedy because they find the most like bizarre bizarre human experiences that they choose to
00:40:55.940
highlight there i've read some of them in the past like it'll be like oh i came out as non-binary to
00:41:01.380
my iguana and now he won't talk to me like it's just always something really really bizarre like that so
00:41:07.020
this one's comparatively normal should i offer to do a first person about a day in the life as a as a
00:41:13.300
stay-at-home mom who works like a couple hours a week 7 30 a.m change a diaper do a feeding play on
00:41:20.420
the floor with my child you know add some normalcy back in that would be more wholesome yeah i mean i
00:41:25.620
would just do it about like my life instead of have a horny day it would be like have a corny day
00:41:29.240
have a corny day we could do that we could just you know tell silly jokes and it'll be so wholesome and
00:41:33.580
uh one one aspect of this uh that i would caution you guys on your pitches on our monday editorial
00:41:39.420
meetings uh have to be a lot better than the pitches that cbc's editors are getting well like
00:41:45.160
i said i don't actually think that like noah is legally old enough to even have this conversation
00:41:49.260
like i don't think we should have read that story in front of him like i hope we don't get charged
00:41:52.800
like andrew child abuse i i'm staying out of this like if we get if we get like the charge for this
00:41:57.120
it's falling on you you're the managing editor you know i know you don't always know your words
00:42:00.920
but uh this this definitely fell on you hr complaints can be filed to william mcbeth
00:42:06.600
who will probably half of the youtube comments are going to say andrew is a groomer you know it's
00:42:10.880
not going to be great for your reputation i think that word gets us like demonetized anyway
00:42:14.660
oh i should rumor andrew let's get rumor andrew trending on next all right uh we can't end on that
00:42:23.020
so let's just very briefly as we wind down here uh talk about foreign policy here uh specifically
00:42:28.540
the poop balloon uh north korea has been sending its waste over the dmz towards south korea they've
00:42:37.380
been loading it up with human waste and excrement this is a response to uh usb drives with anti-north
00:42:45.440
korean messages that north korea has been sending or south korea has been sending north uh north korea
00:42:50.520
and k-pop too because you got to have some k-pop in there uh north korea has said uh take your
00:42:55.420
k-pop and shove it and they've uh sent back this uh human fecal matter instead so uh if there's ever
00:43:02.920
a balloon flying overhead do not for the love of all that is holy shoot it while it's over you
00:43:07.520
all right that does it for us for today uh rachel emmanuel noah jarvis good to have you on the show
00:43:12.820
here this is off the record and everything you've heard is off the record
00:43:16.880
this show can never see the light of day i feel like it would be so um great if all wars were
00:43:30.700
fought with just poop balloons and i was thinking about that and i was like well naturally the united
00:43:35.180
states would win they could just send all over joe biden's depends to their enemies
00:43:39.500
you know if i was that line or did you just come up with that i was just thinking about it as you're
00:43:45.600
talking about it i was like well you know the states has this in their hands so because that
00:43:48.800
was the big joke this week is that he was like pooping on stage which i don't think he was but
00:43:53.240
it was like it's the meme that like ben shapiro i think it said if like john donald trump doesn't
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start calling him poopy joe it's a missed opportunity sleepy joe poopy joe what else do we have
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i think election election campaigns should be able to send poop balloons over to rival uh campaign
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offices you know just as like a sort of campaign warfare no no this isn't a third world country
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spicing up a little bit here we don't want that here no well if it's spicing it up you want do i
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