Off the Record - Do the Liberals care about treason？

00:00:00.000 the most painful part of the show begins the whole show is painful what are you talking about

00:00:06.060 by the way no where was the pink shirt you promised oh man uh i mean it's in some dresser

00:00:14.180 over there in the side uh there's no chance i'm ever gonna see the light of day

00:00:18.260 no i i promise you no you gotta liven it up it's a bright pink flamingo

00:00:23.260 you see i'm not a i'm not a barbie man personally i i you know i prefer my uh bluish purplish shirt

00:00:31.080 uh we can debate the color some other time but uh no i mean i think you'd look a lot better and

00:00:37.580 andrew i have a well i have like a fuchsia e well actually i don't really know what fuchsia is

00:00:42.740 it's like a purpley pink shirt that uh i was wearing accidentally color pardon me it's a great

00:00:48.880 color you'll know it i like the shirt but i the problem is i i wore it in a documentary that i

00:00:53.820 was interviewed for and then i accidentally wore it at the screening of the documentary so everyone

00:00:58.900 there thought i i just had one shirt which was uh as far as the fashion faux pas i could make not the

00:01:04.460 most embarrassing but you'll wear it when you go to winnipeg they've never seen anything other than

00:01:10.100 gray over there oh that's just cruel all right let's get this started 0.99

00:01:15.160 hello and welcome to off the record this is where we kick back analyze the week that was we delve

00:01:30.580 into the things that true north has covered the things we didn't get to the things that we just

00:01:34.760 feel like covering and talking about and we do it in a much more laid-back casual way it is

00:01:40.480 oftentimes referred to as the friday train wreck actually no it's never been referred to that until

00:01:44.720 now you want to call it the friday train wreck you can but it will be less of one with my two co-hosts

00:01:50.020 for today i'm andrew lawton in case you missed the memo but we have rachel emmanuel our alberta

00:01:55.120 correspondent and also host of alberta roundup and has some other stuff cooking that we'll have some

00:02:00.120 details about for you pretty soon and noah jarvis you hear from time to time on the daily brief and

00:02:05.860 also see his work over at tnc.news rachel noah good to have you back thanks for coming

00:02:11.460 glad to be back glad that you are once again in the hosting chair as well

00:02:15.880 it's always a blast to be on otr apparently the whole thing fell apart when i wasn't hosting

00:02:22.100 a couple of weeks back and like harrison faulkner and william were basically just saying i'm i'm never

00:02:26.760 doing this again uh with that without andrew hosting so now i've been like it was supposed

00:02:30.680 to be this like rotating thing and now everyone's too scared to do it so what's the problem it's easy

00:02:35.100 you just have a chat it's funny that every week it's like to our audience it's like oh man the show

00:02:40.680 you know it's such a train wreck no one wants to host it anymore i feel like we probably need to

00:02:43.940 do a little bit of a better job pitching it to people so that they actually you know come back

00:02:47.860 time and time again to listen to it there was so so i actually had i had a book launch oh i had a

00:02:52.820 little book tour and there was an event in toronto and noah came out and there was a guy there that came

00:02:57.720 up to me who loved off the record and he there was a moment that he loved of yours noah and i did

00:03:03.760 did you talk to him did he tell you this in person yeah we were talking it's like oh you know

00:03:08.480 i really loved your uh when you called uh rachel emmanuel miss emmanuel i'm like oh well i'm glad

00:03:14.280 at least someone got some humor yeah because noah like everyone's been like relentlessly making fun

00:03:18.760 of noah since that but this guy is like yeah that's the highlight of the show i loved it i loved

00:03:22.660 when noah just looked at rachel as though she was some like weird scary school marm you know

00:03:27.740 it's also not accurate you're not using the language accurately i'm not a miss i'm a missus so you

00:03:33.520 have to get it right noah it's important was it miss or miz that you got i'm pretty sure it's

00:03:37.660 missus before you get married no i don't know it's not no it's miss it used to be miss before you get

00:03:44.380 married and then missus when you're married but now it's some school teachers definitely messed me up

00:03:48.180 yeah some school teachers got it uh confused sorry are you all for the five people in the audience

00:03:53.700 remaining after that stellar introduction i just wonder if i just wonder if noah's like legally

00:03:59.120 old enough to work here should we double check that you know i think it up with hr if you have

00:04:05.000 a human rights complaint about that uh the baseless ageism you've just experienced but uh all right

00:04:11.460 let's get let's get into this one story here so uh jennifer o'connell is a liberal member of parliament 0.76

00:04:17.800 and i'm just going to warn people we are going to do an ai generated song for this but i didn't make

00:04:23.580 it but we'll get to that in a bit uh rachel what happened this week so the national security and

00:04:29.220 intelligence committee released a report saying that there was many mps that have been accused

00:04:34.240 of collaborating with foreign governments now when this report was released predictably the liberal

00:04:39.860 government redacted the names of the mp who've been accused of this so naturally you know the

00:04:43.940 conservatives have been putting pressure on the government to try to get those names

00:04:46.540 as i think we would all like to see during a committee meeting this week the conservative mps were

00:04:52.580 questioning you know trying to get this these names released and liberal mp jennifer o'connell kind of

00:04:58.200 kept heckling during committee which is a big no-no in committee you're supposed to let the member who

00:05:02.400 has the chair do the speaking you're not supposed to be heckling and jennifer o'connell can just be 0.80

00:05:06.460 heard in the background going boo-hoo boo-hoo get over it you know no big deal that there's been

00:05:11.160 foreign interference in canada who cares and this ended up going really really badly for her um there

00:05:17.300 were some tweets about it going on around online it ended up blowing up with people kind of from

00:05:22.400 all aisles really condemning this action and saying how inappropriate this was i don't think

00:05:26.580 she expected this condemnation i'm sure she's regretting her actions now just gonna throw this

00:05:31.080 out there when i first started covering parliament hill just out of university i immediately noticed

00:05:36.880 something was off with jennifer o'connell i've never really liked her she's one of those mps 1.00

00:05:40.100 who's just beyond partisan like she can never really get anything done in committee because 0.99

00:05:44.160 she's just so focused on her partisan agenda and i feel like she doesn't work collaboratively with

00:05:48.600 other members that was something i noticed in the beginning and just kind of having seen some

00:05:52.180 of her actions like this one play out if you feel very validated in having identified that about her

00:05:56.520 early on but uh yeah so then i guess it was stephen taylor who online made this ai generated song

00:06:01.680 about the whole incident i think we have a clip of that we can play it's definitely nowhere near as

00:06:05.820 good as the songs that andrew makes if you want to hear some really good ai generated songs you'll

00:06:09.720 have to head on over to the alberta roundup after this yeah take that stephen taylor your 0.84

00:06:13.600 ai songs suck it sucks yeah no let's play that that song now though and i go in parliament they 0.97

00:06:21.600 make a lot of noise mps and their secrets playing with foreign toys she's not albertan yeah i don't 0.99

00:06:30.800 know why she's doing like a country banjo oh my dear peer isn't that just sad it's all just treason yeah

00:06:39.520 isn't it a joke silly games and power plays these mps provoke but the real betrayal

00:06:48.400 it's crystal clear you're not with justin you here

00:06:55.520 yeah step aside taylor swift in the eras tour uh jennifer o'connell coming to stadiums near you with

00:07:18.800 her hit single boo who get over it which which is actually come to think of it's actually a good name

00:07:23.360 for a song uh boo who get over it it's not uh you know for a member of you know his majesty's

00:07:27.840 parliament uh particularly becoming but oh boy the song title itself is funny the lyrics could use a

00:07:33.780 little bit tweaking actually when i saw this online and did get a lot of traction and i'm glad that we're

00:07:38.440 all you know calling this out and and also making jokes about it i'm glad the song was made to draw

00:07:42.360 further attention to the issue but it did remind me of probably my favorite line from andrew lawton's

00:07:47.560 recent book here probably have a political life was when he was telling the story about peer

00:07:51.720 probably of eating that apple while doing an interview that went really viral online and then

00:07:55.340 all the parliamentarians posed for a photo with a with an apple the following day and he basically

00:08:00.920 said it just shows politicians ability to make something fun and cool and turn it into something

00:08:06.260 that is lame i think that's kind of what we're seeing here yeah i did a good memory i that was uh

00:08:11.380 yeah i wrote that and i think i might have even argued with my publisher about that because he thought

00:08:15.260 it was too opinionated i'm like no if we can't call the photo of like 100 people holding an apple lame i don't

00:08:20.040 know uh what we can but uh uh no what what's your take on the whole uh boohoo thing from jennifer o'connell

00:08:26.120 well i think it's pretty interesting that uh you know she's supposed to swear an oath before she 1.00

00:08:34.400 sits in parliament uh and you know she's supposed to defend uh not only our constitution but also our 0.75

00:08:41.080 national security yet she uh goes to the committee and basically uh you know shows that she's scornful 1.00

00:08:47.000 of mps who want to you know get to the truth of who uh may be collaborating with uh foreign governments

00:08:52.900 i mean uh when you go to the ballot box uh in 2025 are you going to be 100 confident that the person

00:08:59.600 you're voting for hasn't collaborated with uh say the chinese government or the say the iran iranian

00:09:05.140 government it's a really serious stuff and you know we can uh make ai generated uh songs about this

00:09:10.340 because you know uh it helps the lighten the mood about something you know very dark and uh you know

00:09:16.500 sinister but at the end of the day uh yeah it is really crappy that jennifer o'connell is you know 0.91

00:09:23.140 doing this as an elected mp uh i think you know canadians deserve more accountability not from o'connell

00:09:29.500 but uh from all the mps uh that who are collaborating with um say india or china so i i don't actually

00:09:36.700 think she is one of the subjects of foreign interference if only because that would be like 0.99

00:09:41.400 the worst way to spend money if you're china like you're you're getting jennifer o'connell that's just 1.00

00:09:46.020 like what was that yeah yeah i think china will just see her as like a useless you know yeah they're 1.00

00:09:52.640 like no no no we don't you're doing enough interfering on your own you don't even china 0.89

00:09:56.440 doesn't claim her so i i will say i won my one jennifer o'connell story i this was like two or

00:10:03.320 three weeks ago i was at the airport and i was waiting for my flight and she was she sat right

00:10:08.320 beside me uh not knowing who i was just it was one of those long long tables and it was packed she sat 0.57

00:10:13.600 beside me and i wasn't trying to snoop i was just you know enjoying my coffee and she don't give me

00:10:19.300 that look rachel i was not trying to snoop in fact i think i like angled away when i saw it was jennifer

00:10:24.000 o'connell because i'm like i just don't want to deal with this but then i saw it just happened to see

00:10:28.460 because she had it on her phone and it was held out in front of her she was posting something on

00:10:32.100 instagram it took her 15 minutes to write the caption for the thing she was posting on instagram

00:10:38.060 and like i saw like i have never seen someone working so hard to write two sentences and at

00:10:43.660 the end of it it may be like really fascinating because i couldn't see what she was writing i just

00:10:47.160 saw that she was working on and then like you know when i was getting on my flight i was like oh i

00:10:50.920 wonder if she finally figured out the instagram thing so i went on her instagram and saw the post and

00:10:54.560 it was like great times seeing so and so in the riding on the weekend and that was like i was like it

00:11:00.300 took you 15 minutes for that so the fact that she said boohoo get over it in like five seconds 0.99

00:11:05.540 i actually think is a step in the right direction she's becoming a lot quicker yeah yeah but maybe 1.00

00:11:11.160 if she had stopped to take the time to double check and you know really think about do i want to say

00:11:15.440 this could have ended a little bit better for her fortunately you know for us it's hilarious and we

00:11:19.820 can make light of this issue now i have to kind of wonder though about this report they haven't

00:11:24.460 released the names do we even know which parties these mps were found in like do you think there's any

00:11:29.300 chance we're going to get any details on this let's say we were to see a conservative government

00:11:32.860 in a year do you think there's a chance that they would release the names because i feel like this is

00:11:36.080 a matter that is canadians deserve to know like we have the right to know what the heck is going on

00:11:40.760 who are these mps that have been working with foreign governments it's a huge allegation yeah

00:11:44.780 yeah i know i talked about it a bit with sam cooper who runs the bureau on my show i think it was

00:11:49.820 yesterday and sam cooper was basically of the mind that there's not really a mechanism to compel the

00:11:56.060 government to release the name so he was sort of indicating that things will have to be leaked

00:12:01.260 that someone who is involved with this report or someone in the intelligence community will have

00:12:05.280 to basically just go to a reporter and be like here you know look at this envelope and it would be

00:12:09.860 illegal to do that but ultimately we're at the point when the government is being so non-transparent

00:12:14.580 that's really the only option i i think there are probably people from different parties implicated i

00:12:19.740 think there are probably people in the conservatives there are probably people in the liberals

00:12:23.620 the issue is that the liberals know the liberals know i think or have access to it and aren't

00:12:29.500 sharing it whereas the conservatives they can't make any decisions they can't punish anyone kick

00:12:34.480 anyone out of caucus refer anyone to police unless the names are shared so the fact that you have the

00:12:39.700 block the ndp and the conservatives all saying to the government yeah name the names we we need that

00:12:44.860 if if our caucus has been infiltrated we want to know that and these parties just don't have that

00:12:49.960 available it's it's insane and to your point earlier noah like here we have you know yeah

00:12:54.920 we're making light of it because it's off the record but there's a very serious issue underlying

00:12:58.420 this and i think jennifer connell's boohoo get over it the reason that's such an attractive story 1.00

00:13:03.600 in and of itself is because it reflects i think the liberal flippance and uh flippancy flippance flippance

00:13:11.160 i think uh the liberal flippance or just disregard for the seriousness of this

00:13:15.900 do you think that if the conservatives were to i asked no other question

00:13:20.700 you're woman-splaining to noah i gotta i gotta get in when i can't you guys dominate you know 0.71

00:13:26.960 your loud voices are always fair enough well we have to make space for women's voices so yeah 1.00

00:13:30.840 either one of you just don't want to do something

00:13:33.640 it was flippancy by the way i got it wrong it wasn't flippance anyway carry on

00:13:38.540 oh well uh you know you're supposed to be our editor it really undermines confidence

00:13:42.920 i really am i get to tell you guys when you make mistakes i'm not supposed to make them myself

00:13:47.360 no one i both knew it was wrong but we just didn't want to get penalized later so we kept our mouths

00:13:51.700 shut yeah i don't want to get demoted or fired or anything this show was a terrible idea all right

00:13:57.440 no i just say words this is this is this is the business we're train wrecking the train wreck out of

00:14:02.040 this yeah uh for interference bad um but yeah no i think like uh you know the liberal flippance with

00:14:09.440 this issue it's really concerning you see it you know not just uh what uh with this recently revealed

00:14:16.420 uh ensacop report but also with just how they've dealt with say the hand dong situation you know

00:14:21.600 a hand dong was a mp sit sitting in their caucus and trudeau knew that uh he was collaborating with

00:14:27.340 the chinese communist party uh the people's republic of china and he did nothing about it he had to wait

00:14:32.900 until it was leaked to the media and only then did he kick him out of caucus so uh it's not like this

00:14:38.240 is a new thing trudeau just doesn't care about national security concerns he only cares about

00:14:42.160 the carbon tax and building back better or whatever the hell he does i wonder go ahead i wonder if let's

00:14:50.280 say we have a conservative government in a year's time they finally get their hands on these names if

00:14:53.760 it's not leaked by a government whistleblower first do you think that they would make the names public

00:14:58.940 or do you think they take a look at the list and say oh you know this actually looks pretty bad for

00:15:02.900 us too let's just uh let's keep this quiet especially now that the news cycle has long passed

00:15:07.740 yeah it's a really tough question because on one hand when that will have happened they will have

00:15:14.140 just one election and potentially some of these people will have just one election so do you you

00:15:18.480 know five days after you're sworn in look at you know some guy joe blow who was just elected in you

00:15:24.060 know scarborough whatever and say oh no i didn't really you're get out of there you're you're

00:15:28.400 implicated in this and so look if i were the conservatist right now i'd be going through their

00:15:32.420 caucus and being like listen you've got one chance to own up do you have any reason to believe that

00:15:37.200 you are on this list and if so what have you done but again it's it's ridiculous and and i think

00:15:42.360 the point that sam cooper had made which i think is an incredibly valuable one is that we don't really

00:15:47.480 have the legal mechanisms to deal with this right now and even the rcmp which is supposedly

00:15:52.660 investigating this i saw someone say and i haven't verified it independently but it was someone

00:15:58.000 credible who said it they've got an ad hoc department with seven people looking into this

00:16:04.220 so they've just sort of found like seven random people in the lunchroom and said um yeah you guys

00:16:09.260 okay we got a national security thing come on over and these people are not experts in this they have

00:16:13.440 not spent their careers in this they're not even from an intelligence background necessarily a couple

00:16:18.440 of them may have some experience but it's not even like the police are equipped to deal with this it's

00:16:23.200 just this situation that people are only talking about now that's been happening for really for

00:16:28.160 decades i mean going back to the 1940s we've had foreign interference from the soviets in canada

00:16:33.800 but no one has really in this country tried to shore up our defenses against it oh that's deeply

00:16:40.060 troubling maybe the government needs to spend a little bit investing in cra agents who can track

00:16:44.860 down you for not you know claiming that 40 that you earned last year and maybe invest the real

00:16:50.180 menaces to society yeah i kind of suspect i kind of suspect that the conservatives wouldn't release

00:16:55.740 the names a year later unless it became like a hot issue again with the media asking about it which i

00:17:00.180 don't think we would see in a year's time just because the news cycle would have passed and if it

00:17:03.520 looks kind of bad unless they've been able to get ahead of it and been like this is the names this is

00:17:07.360 how we've dealt with this issue and they're able to get ahead of the news story in that way

00:17:10.280 if they're on the defensive i don't think they would release it because like i said the news

00:17:13.420 it's like something similar with the increases to capital gains like people are upset about that

00:17:18.040 now are they still going to be upset about it when we have a conservative government to the point that

00:17:21.820 the conservative government will then roll back those taxes yeah and to go back to the the book

00:17:28.340 that you so kindly plugged pierre polyev a political life available now on amazon and from indigo there

00:17:34.560 there's a part of that and i've talked about it in some interviews in the last couple of weeks that

00:17:38.320 talks about what a polyev government would be like what it would do and everyone agrees that they

00:17:43.220 need to hit the ground running if he wins and they're sworn in you know october 2025 and do so

00:17:48.140 much but there's only so much you can do in 100 days and and i don't know to your point rachel if

00:17:52.460 releasing this thing that everyone's talking about right now is going to be at the top of the priority

00:17:56.960 list in a year and a half when that conceivable future government forms or if it's the kind of thing

00:18:02.100 that we just move on from like remember the canadian government has kept classified a list of nazi war

00:18:07.220 criminals in canada that was done like you know 40 years ago and still they they won't release it so

00:18:12.460 transparency is not the default position of the canadian government in general well i mean pierre

00:18:18.500 polyev is doubtless listening to this right now so hopefully he'll take your advice andrew and he'll be

00:18:23.780 going through his caucus and they'll be well prepared to release those names when and if you should

00:18:27.740 foreign government no a last word on this yeah i think uh just to add on your points i think there's

00:18:35.140 not a lot of incentive for uh polyev to do that when he gets into government because he'd have to

00:18:39.360 sort of develop a legal infrastructure that is not there you think during our experience with the

00:18:44.120 soviets this sort of legal infrastructure would have been developed but right now it's easier to

00:18:49.040 prosecute whistleblowers than it is to prosecute those implicated in the reports that the whistleblowers

00:18:54.400 are exposing to the public uh so you know polyev would have to pass laws to develop his legal

00:18:59.820 infrastructure taking away political capital opportunity to say you know uh do

00:19:05.060 whatever his other priorities are so i don't think this is something that's going to be

00:19:08.780 addressed although if it is uh that would be a welcome surprise all right that is it for this

00:19:17.140 topic we shall move on now to i was excited about this one and then i realized that as the i don't

00:19:22.940 know when so i used to be the young person in many rooms then i blinked and i became the old person

00:19:28.040 in many contexts and that includes at true north so rob schneider who's a comedian that i thought

00:19:34.480 everyone knew uh rachel had only like oh yeah i think i've you know i think i've heard the name

00:19:38.720 or maybe i you know saw him in something that was you know playing on tv when i was slipping through

00:19:42.640 the channels and noah just said who the heck is rob schneider so rob schneider used to be

00:19:48.160 a comedy legend he was on saturday night live back in the day he's been in like all the adam sandler

00:19:53.960 movies he was the the his famous line in a few of them was you can do it uh which he's done as all

00:19:59.120 sorts of characters he was in like all the adam sandler movies he was also in well i guess they

00:20:05.160 were adam sandler movies too but grown-ups one and two which were really funny uh so rob schneider is

00:20:09.620 a stand-up comedian now he has been as the kids say increasingly based in recent years on matters

00:20:15.200 of politics he's always tweeting he once retweeted me because i had tweeted a clip of danielle smith and

00:20:21.340 rob schneider like really has a crush on danielle smith it seems like he's shared that a couple of times

00:20:25.460 he has i think approvingly shared uh true north stuff he's approvingly shared pierre pauliev clips

00:20:30.720 he's very very critical of justin trudeau he is very political he's very outspoken he's not a big fan

00:20:37.480 of covid policy and all of that anyway this is a lengthy wind up to he's invited to speak at a hospital

00:20:44.340 fundraiser in regina now hospital fundraisers i generally think are more buttoned down affairs

00:20:52.400 so bringing a comedian in general carries its risk bringing a comedian that has been fully

00:20:57.240 transparent about what he stands for all the more risky it did not end well for the hospital so they

00:21:03.200 thought he was stopped midway through his set and asked to leave the stage and the hospital put out

00:21:10.460 an apology uh basically groveling and saying sorry for the jokes he told that were just so offensive

00:21:16.360 and harmful without sharing what those jokes were now i so i looked into this i've not seen any video

00:21:22.200 but there was a thread on reddit in which someone had asked for the details about the performance

00:21:27.860 and someone shared so again i i can't verify this i i'm just you know reading some of the notes that

00:21:34.140 someone else took a little bit after the fact apparently he jumped into how trudeau made everyone

00:21:38.680 get vaccines he called it a scamdemic and then he uh moved to uh one joke that was back in my day we 0.91

00:21:46.060 liked our women without penises and told uh the joke was that his son is really bad at sports he said 0.95

00:21:52.840 you should say he's a girl say you're a girl and then you'll have a better chance uh then he discussed 0.99

00:21:57.480 the new york times using the term menstruating people instead of women so he's been accused of

00:22:03.240 uh transphobia and all this stuff and and again a lot of this this is being written by a critic so

00:22:08.440 i don't know if it was funny or if it was a political rant like because there are left-wing

00:22:13.160 politics comics that go up and they just do like a you know an unhinged rant and there's no real

00:22:18.080 punchline i don't know if he was doing like the conservative version of that or not but uh apparently

00:22:23.040 he just you know was was not uh popular in the room at the time but then i'm also of the mind that

00:22:29.620 like what were you expecting it sounds like everything he said is everything he's been tweeting

00:22:34.580 about for the last five years so uh who's to blame here noah rob schneider or the vagina hospital 0.98

00:22:39.700 oh it's definitely the vagina hospital i've been to for some weird reason don't ask me why but i've 0.74

00:22:46.080 been to one hospital fundraiser in my life and my gosh that's like the last like sort of event i

00:22:51.340 would want to invite rob schneider to i would not i would invite him to like a cookout or like you

00:22:56.340 know uh it's like something that's you know you're supposed to have some energy and uh liveliness

00:23:01.060 to not uh a fundraiser like that i i think you know if you just scroll through his twitter like

00:23:06.460 i did you know for a few minutes after uh discovering who rob schneider was uh in the um group chat and

00:23:13.120 uh for true north i i looked through his twitter i'm like yeah this guy clearly is a right winger he

00:23:18.420 liked daniel smith he doesn't like vaccines you know great i know who this person is you know it's a

00:23:24.020 great encapsulation of like who is it if you just go through his twitter so um it's really you know

00:23:28.760 a shame that you know they couldn't sit back relax and enjoy some good jokes that they hey they might

00:23:33.740 disagree with but you know it's it's comedy uh i you know i think you know dave chapelle he makes

00:23:39.180 jokes that i disagree about or um you know other comedians i can take jokes and enjoy jokes about

00:23:45.500 people that you know i generally like and i move on with my day because you know i'm not like

00:23:50.900 a political demagogue you know i have a soul uh i can you know laugh at things so i i think you know

00:23:57.440 either the people at that fundraiser should um you know grow a funny bone or they should not invite

00:24:03.320 rob schneider you know pick one i think the difference between like the left and the right

00:24:07.600 is that the right can laugh at themselves and the left absolutely cannot very difficult to do when

00:24:12.160 your whole personality is based off of being a victim sounds like his set was hilarious i would like

00:24:16.800 to get my hands on a video copy of that so that i could wow my family at our next get together

00:24:20.920 it'd be the life of the party doubtless but uh maybe we could have him at our next you know true

00:24:25.880 north event do a do a nice stand-up piece for everyone he could even just you know we'll say

00:24:29.880 listen we'll give you half your rate you don't have to write any new material you can just deliver

00:24:34.020 what you gave at that fundraiser and you don't deliver the set that you didn't get to finish do the

00:24:38.660 stuff they pulled you off stage before you got to i'd also like to set the record straight i looked

00:24:43.520 him up and i once i saw his face i was like of course i know who rob schneider is this is going

00:24:47.880 to be controversial but i actually do like some adam sandler movies i feel like i snuck i remember

00:24:53.300 sneaking into the theaters when i was a little underage to see grown-ups and it's a hilarious

00:24:57.860 film oh you were underage when grown-ups came out i think it was like yeah i think i was in like

00:25:03.200 middle school yeah you were in daycare you actually weren't a grown-up when grown-ups came out that's

00:25:08.220 how old i am okay yeah so you know he's he's he's a gem i might actually reach out maybe he wants to

00:25:13.200 come on the alberta roundup and deliver his set there who knows i think i tried after he retweeted

00:25:18.120 me just hoping for the best but my fear is that so i don't have a way to contact him directly he

00:25:22.320 doesn't follow me on twitter so i couldn't dm him i so i reached out to his manager but i but the

00:25:26.640 problem with a lot of these celebrities is that they're conservative but their managers like hate

00:25:31.440 politics and hate and and wish they would stop talking about politics so when the manager gets like

00:25:35.840 someone from the right reaching out to them they're like desperately trying to like keep the person

00:25:39.500 away because pat sajak was like that because pat sajak the wheel of fortune host at one point had

00:25:44.740 said he wanted to come on my show and then when i was talking to the publicist it was oh no no he's

00:25:49.320 he's not talking about politics anymore and then he like you know it's talking about politics everywhere

00:25:53.660 else well and i think to add to things is like the manager's looking at this and they're like oh he's

00:25:58.620 not going to make any money off of this it's just a free appearance it means i'm not going to make

00:26:01.780 any money off of it so yeah yeah yeah 10 of zero is uh is uh my math's a little bit fussy i think

00:26:07.860 it's zero um so the thing i will point out about adam sandler so adam sandler i actually have adam

00:26:13.360 sandler's email address and i've never used it i it's the kind of thing it's like you get to use it

00:26:17.760 once so maybe i should just try to get adam sandler on the show i don't want to use it to like

00:26:21.620 hey can you forward this to rob schneider please i feel like that's a waste of the adam sandler email

00:26:26.260 yeah don't do that use it next year during the election uh you know have him uh on the election

00:26:30.820 true north election night show uh bring adam sandler doing our election extravaganza yeah

00:26:36.220 it'll be great just have him cracking jokes whenever we're like waiting hours and hours for results to

00:26:41.980 come out throughout the night it's like all right adam you're up what do you got for us i don't know

00:26:45.520 if you guys saw this so adam sandler i think it was last year might have been two years ago he was

00:26:48.880 filming a movie in toronto and like everyone was just running into him he was just like walking around

00:26:54.520 toronto like all day every day so like every day you'd go on like blog to and there'd be like

00:26:59.320 someone else that has grabbed some like random selfie with adam sandler in yorkville and i was

00:27:03.600 like i just apparently if you just like camp out in yorkville long enough you'll meet adam sandler it

00:27:06.880 actually sounded like a good plan but would not not one that i wanted to brave toronto traffic to

00:27:11.180 make happen so maybe it was around the same time i or maybe it was a different time but he was in

00:27:15.200 niagara on the lake and i remember he was out for dinner and then he there was a line of people that

00:27:19.160 wanted to take photos with him and he came and he took photos with everyone then he said all right guys that's

00:27:22.840 like enough now i'd like to eat my dinner in peace and sounded like he handled the whole thing very

00:27:26.160 respectfully so i always have a little more admiration for celebrities when you know they

00:27:29.740 treat other people like like real people and you know are able to set those boundaries so i don't

00:27:34.180 know seems like a cool guy we we always try to look out for the real people as celebrities

00:27:39.260 well i wouldn't know andrew you're the only one who gets that yeah no i was someone someone's weird

00:27:44.900 someone came up to me the other day and you're like you're my favorite celebrity i'm like wow

00:27:47.740 either it's a small group or man you are delusional but uh i'll take it you're a canadian

00:27:54.020 conservative celebrity how about that low way down yeah yeah we've really really lowered the

00:27:58.400 price like there's the b list the c list the d list i'm like the z list uh or the z list i guess

00:28:03.620 in canada but uh anyway uh good old that's why i need can con with it without uh can con you know

00:28:08.500 who would ever uh who would ever pay attention to the likes of me um all right we were talking oh cbc

00:28:13.240 speaking of can con all right noah i won't make you do the one but you have to do the other one

00:28:18.580 on cbc okay great uh no one's actually not talking about the same one right hold on hold on noah's

00:28:25.620 actually not legally old enough to talk about the other one it's just too yeah so we have two cbc

00:28:31.160 stories but noah was like blushing before when i was trying to get him to do the lead into the one

00:28:36.980 so we've decided to spare him it's because the last episode you guys made me do that weird uh story

00:28:42.880 about the the the whole sex thing uh the sex club in alberta so i'm like you guys are gonna

00:28:50.020 like yeah it's all the rage things off to me you know okay this could be a pattern but uh yeah

00:28:57.520 anyway um so the cbc uh they are you know the government's greatest uh you know actually no

00:29:04.960 the government's least greatest creation ever because they're just a rag for the liberal government

00:29:09.520 basically uh on d-day to celebrate the 80th anniversary of it a cbc uh their kids department

00:29:16.300 they asked uh they want to ask the kids whether or not they feel as if uh it is important to

00:29:22.560 commemorate uh d-day so they're basically just deferring responsibility uh to the kids to

00:29:27.860 basically determine whether or not it's important to commemorate uh certain uh events like d-day and to

00:29:33.780 commemorate the veterans that fought and died uh at uh in europe uh for our freedoms and liberties

00:29:40.680 and they're basically asking these kids if we should we should be glorifying war that's uh what uh

00:29:46.480 commemorating the veterans and soldiers uh who fought at d-day uh is doing i think you know a lot

00:29:53.720 of canadians find this to be uh completely outrageous uh you know this is already a time uh of these past

00:30:00.340 nine years where uh instead of commemorating and celebrating our history we're tearing it down

00:30:06.020 and instead calling our country genocidal and racist and now we can't even celebrate the people

00:30:11.400 who have uh helped to make this country possible for over 150 years i mean you know the people who

00:30:18.080 fought at d-day are some of the people who uh you know if not for them uh if say the nazis had won

00:30:25.820 world war ii or in the cold war the soviets have overcome the west uh we wouldn't enjoy uh the the 0.79

00:30:32.540 rights and liberties and freedoms that we all enjoy today so i think it's quite offensive i take it

00:30:38.060 personally uh that you know the that cbc kids would try and uh promote this to the younger generation

00:30:44.220 uh and it's just you know just goes to show that the cbc is utter propaganda they promote a very

00:30:50.100 far left uh narrative they pretend like it's not happening uh when you reach out to them for

00:30:56.020 comment uh and they continue to do this it seems as if a lot of canadians are right and asking for

00:31:01.920 the cbc to be defunded uh what do you guys think about this story i think you hit the nail on the

00:31:06.880 head this is a really perverse headline from the cbc the opposite the opposite of what they're writing

00:31:11.640 is actually true the veterans who died they died to protect democracy they died to protect freedom

00:31:16.020 and recognizing days like d-day and and you know veterans day memorials day depending on where you

00:31:22.160 are this is an acknowledgement of the fact that people died to for our freedoms and just the

00:31:27.800 sadness and the heaviness of those stories there's a reason why we might go to a cenotaph and listen to

00:31:32.220 a veteran speak and why we might read a story about people who died and some who lived and saw their

00:31:36.160 friends and brothers die around them because it's important to acknowledge the price that they paid

00:31:39.840 for our freedoms and just the sadness and the heaviness that they have to carry throughout

00:31:44.600 with the rest of their lives um and all the lives that were lost in these wars so the opposite of

00:31:49.320 it is actually true it's actually a day to recognize sacrifices that people made and to be respectful of

00:31:54.340 those sacrifices it is absolutely not celebrating war and i think you know one of the things that we

00:32:00.300 see less and less of today is we do see a lot less of that combat with you know the development of

00:32:05.440 things like bombs and whatnot and and uh drones to an extent and you know when we do see a high death

00:32:11.180 toll nowadays it is less common um because of the way that wars change but you know back when you

00:32:15.920 look at world war one world war two that was really a unique time and even the civil war i was

00:32:19.480 just down in gettysburg i was looking about the american civil war all the tens of thousands

00:32:23.660 of people that died in gettysburg um and it's just we don't have combat like that very often

00:32:28.280 anymore and it's just the death toll in those cases was so high and the wars were so bloody and so

00:32:34.540 gruesome and so hard for their soldiers to live through and that was at a time when we didn't

00:32:38.100 recognize soldiers coming back the trauma that they carried and we have a better understanding

00:32:42.020 of that now and we're able to pay respects to those soldiers for what they didn't understand

00:32:45.900 how that has affected them through their whole lives you know in many in many cases these soldiers

00:32:49.900 have had to carry that with them and have really struggled just day to day because of the trauma

00:32:53.260 that they've suffered so i think the opposite of it's not a celebration of war it's understanding

00:32:58.040 how difficult that was and how much some people sacrificed for us and wanting to honor them

00:33:03.140 for that so i i want to i just actually checked uh during this uh right now and realized they've

00:33:11.020 updated it so the true north gets action they originally had the following question is it

00:33:17.040 important to commemorate battles like d-day why or why not and then they say it can be argued

00:33:23.220 that commemorating military battles is celebrating and glorifying war but it can also be seen as a

00:33:29.180 moment of reflection on the importance of peace so what do you think is it important to remember

00:33:33.820 an honorary and honor our military pastor is it celebrating violence so they've they've now erased

00:33:38.300 all of that and the article has a little editor's note appended we published this article to hear

00:33:43.400 from kids about how they feel about d-day how we set up the original question made it seem like

00:33:48.840 made it sound like d-day isn't important we have revised the question an article to be clear about

00:33:53.680 what we meant and now the new question is do you commemorate d-day and what does it mean to you so

00:33:59.720 they've taken out this whole celebration of violence nonsense which you occasionally get from these like

00:34:04.840 far far left radical anti-war types around remembrance day but anyone with half a brain and and more

00:34:13.440 will find them to be ridiculous because they realize that war has happened no one likes war the issue is 0.92

00:34:18.740 do we believe that war should be won by people like the nazis or do we believe that they should

00:34:23.680 be stopped and the only way you can stop them is through war and d-day was as you guys have said and

00:34:28.700 are well aware the turning point of this that delivered ultimately the allied victory not long

00:34:33.660 later so i i think i don't even know if a lot of this is coming from someone at cbc just being a radical

00:34:40.480 anti-war activist i think it's people that just don't know history and i think that's the real tragedy in

00:34:44.780 all of this but even the way that they reframed that it said it can be argued okay so who's arguing

00:34:50.380 that who's arguing that what was the name they gave that it sounds like cbc you're the ones who are

00:34:54.300 arguing that yeah it's like the some people say question yes exactly journalists do this all the

00:34:58.620 time not to seem like you know a shell for your book but you talk about this in your book extensively

00:35:02.460 that when when reporters ask specifically peer poly of questions and say some people say that you know

00:35:08.020 you're uh introducing donald's donald trump style politics into canada and you'll say well who's saying

00:35:12.980 that and they often can't actually back up their claims because it's actually they're the ones who

00:35:16.620 are saying that so it's really cbc you know maybe it's for the best that they change this headline

00:35:20.420 i don't really i'm beyond giving cbc any credit for anything anymore it's just i'm beyond tired of

00:35:25.460 the stuff that they publish and the fact that my taxpayer dollars are funding it yeah and people know

00:35:31.120 that this is not like the glorification of war i mean when the countries engage in unjust conflicts

00:35:37.360 you know people uh they they express their backlash to it when uh the united states they engage in the

00:35:42.480 iraq war i mean a lot of people are initially supportive of it but a lot of people condemned

00:35:46.720 that war because you know it was an unjust war and you know we still have to uh support the soldiers

00:35:51.740 that bravely fought in that war they didn't ask to be uh shipped out to a middle eastern country to

00:35:57.600 uh you know you know give their life uh you know so we have to celebrate the the people that fought in

00:36:03.800 these wars but we can also condemn you know the the just nature of uh you know a war that is fought

00:36:10.100 but world war ii it is cut and dry it is black and white the nazis they wanted to you know they

00:36:15.580 want to expand their territory they wanted living space and they wanted to uh genocide uh people who 0.64

00:36:20.560 they viewed as inferior and the only way to stop them was through war uh so not only should we be 0.83

00:36:26.080 commemorating the soldiers that fought in the war but we should be also commemorating uh that canada

00:36:31.560 stood up against the nazis we stood up uh before the united states did uh as some uh sort of canadian

00:36:37.500 nationalists would uh brag uh but you know we stood up against the nazis we fought valiantly

00:36:42.160 and bravely and we defeated them all right and from one cbc story to another uh there was a headline

00:36:50.860 on cbc canada's horniest newsletter is changing the way we think about sex desire and queer culture now 0.63

00:36:59.860 i assure you it's not my substack that is not canada's horniest newsletter and i certainly hope it's

00:37:04.240 not changing the way you think about desire but uh cbc wants you to know about this look at the

00:37:09.420 graphic they use to promote the article here by the way uh they're wishing us all a very lovely

00:37:14.160 greeting uh we are all able to ah there you go cbc wishes you have a horny day that is for 1.4

00:37:22.140 billion dollars well spent now they're uh spotlighting a gentleman from toronto named

00:37:27.260 christopher sherman who i i believe that it put that thing up there i believe that's him doing like

00:37:32.060 the rose from titanic uh sprawl out on the uh the couch there but uh they just to read the article

00:37:38.520 maybe i shouldn't read the article um do i make you read the article no what no i can't do that's an

00:37:45.420 i don't think i don't think i don't think we can have this discussion with christopher sherman knows a few

00:37:49.860 things with certainty they include but are not limited to the following the male g-spot is in the 0.91

00:37:56.280 butt kindness is horny and censorship breeds small minds but one aphorism he lives by is this 0.99

00:38:03.320 always have a horny day oh there's more oh my bare bottoms exposed crotches and words of sexual 1.00

00:38:10.720 diversity can be found in the issues of sherman's horny newsletter shot on a digital camera sherman 0.97

00:38:17.160 challenges societal taboos about sex and well horniness poetry short essays and tales of desires

00:38:24.040 are shared by artists musicians and other creatives alongside intimate photography uh this was a birth

00:38:30.580 cbc tells us out of the isolation of the 2020 pandemic uh there's i look i am not one of these

00:38:37.740 i probably am actually a bit of a prude but i i'm a free speech lover if you want to write about this go

00:38:42.720 for it it's a weird thing for cbc to profile and it's a one that i find to be just it makes me wonder

00:38:52.220 if i'm getting my money's worth on that 1.4 billion dollars i think saying it's a weird thing to cover

00:38:57.360 is being a little bit generous there andrew i don't want to be accused of what they call kink

00:39:01.100 shame because again i i don't have an issue with what people do i i just have an issue with paying

00:39:06.000 to be told about it well i'll take that label i think this is disgusting i don't think anyone should

00:39:10.480 be writing about it i certainly don't want to hear about it i certainly don't want my taxpayer dollars

00:39:14.160 funding any type of coverage about it we are trying to live in a society people can we not have

00:39:18.660 some standards my goodness disgusting noah what's your take you know my my thinking is like what

00:39:25.040 bureaucrat you know thought of this idea is you know they did woke up one day it's like i have a

00:39:30.000 brilliant idea i got to present to my bosses we gotta create a newsletter about that this like well now

00:39:37.540 in fairness cbc is not doing the horniness newsletter they're they're promoting the horniness newsletter

00:39:42.400 okay but like you know why do you why does the cbc feel like this is a value to like taxpayers i mean

00:39:49.400 uh you know they could be they they could have been airing um you know the nfl's uh playoff games and

00:39:55.440 instead of you know spending money on the person who was supposed to write about d-day was like wasting

00:40:00.040 their time reading the newsletter and uh didn't read up on the history of d-day i think that's what

00:40:04.480 happened you know andrew when you're going into those details i thought like you know this was like

00:40:10.500 some university level biology class that i just like stumbled in on you know what are you taking

00:40:17.060 at university i'm listen it's not the classes i'd be taking i it's not something i learned in my

00:40:23.720 political science program uh so yeah this one um is a little bit uh different than the normal subjects

00:40:30.020 we cover i mean this could actually be in like a bc public school curriculum though based on what i've

00:40:34.660 heard from some parents there now the one point i will raise on this which i i find kind of

00:40:40.120 interesting because people whenever you do a story like this people are always like oh well

00:40:45.460 you know who cares what other people do read cbc's first person section it's like the best source of

00:40:50.940 comedy because they find the most like bizarre bizarre human experiences that they choose to

00:40:55.940 highlight there i've read some of them in the past like it'll be like oh i came out as non-binary to

00:41:01.380 my iguana and now he won't talk to me like it's just always something really really bizarre like that so

00:41:07.020 this one's comparatively normal should i offer to do a first person about a day in the life as a as a

00:41:13.300 stay-at-home mom who works like a couple hours a week 7 30 a.m change a diaper do a feeding play on 1.00

00:41:20.420 the floor with my child you know add some normalcy back in that would be more wholesome yeah i mean i

00:41:25.620 would just do it about like my life instead of have a horny day it would be like have a corny day

00:41:29.240 have a corny day we could do that we could just you know tell silly jokes and it'll be so wholesome and

00:41:33.580 uh one one aspect of this uh that i would caution you guys on your pitches on our monday editorial

00:41:39.420 meetings uh have to be a lot better than the pitches that cbc's editors are getting well like

00:41:45.160 i said i don't actually think that like noah is legally old enough to even have this conversation

00:41:49.260 like i don't think we should have read that story in front of him like i hope we don't get charged

00:41:52.800 like andrew child abuse i i'm staying out of this like if we get if we get like the charge for this

00:41:57.120 it's falling on you you're the managing editor you know i know you don't always know your words

00:42:00.920 but uh this this definitely fell on you hr complaints can be filed to william mcbeth

00:42:06.600 who will probably half of the youtube comments are going to say andrew is a groomer you know it's

00:42:10.880 not going to be great for your reputation i think that word gets us like demonetized anyway

00:42:14.660 oh i should rumor andrew let's get rumor andrew trending on next all right uh we can't end on that

00:42:23.020 so let's just very briefly as we wind down here uh talk about foreign policy here uh specifically

00:42:28.540 the poop balloon uh north korea has been sending its waste over the dmz towards south korea they've 0.86

00:42:37.380 been loading it up with human waste and excrement this is a response to uh usb drives with anti-north

00:42:45.440 korean messages that north korea has been sending or south korea has been sending north uh north korea

00:42:50.520 and k-pop too because you got to have some k-pop in there uh north korea has said uh take your

00:42:55.420 k-pop and shove it and they've uh sent back this uh human fecal matter instead so uh if there's ever

00:43:02.920 a balloon flying overhead do not for the love of all that is holy shoot it while it's over you

00:43:07.520 all right that does it for us for today uh rachel emmanuel noah jarvis good to have you on the show

00:43:12.820 here this is off the record and everything you've heard is off the record

00:43:16.880 this show can never see the light of day i feel like it would be so um great if all wars were

00:43:30.700 fought with just poop balloons and i was thinking about that and i was like well naturally the united

00:43:35.180 states would win they could just send all over joe biden's depends to their enemies

00:43:39.500 you know if i was that line or did you just come up with that i was just thinking about it as you're

00:43:45.600 talking about it i was like well you know the states has this in their hands so because that

00:43:48.800 was the big joke this week is that he was like pooping on stage which i don't think he was but

00:43:53.240 it was like it's the meme that like ben shapiro i think it said if like john donald trump doesn't

00:43:57.640 start calling him poopy joe it's a missed opportunity sleepy joe poopy joe what else do we have

00:44:05.000 i think election election campaigns should be able to send poop balloons over to rival uh campaign

00:44:11.960 offices you know just as like a sort of campaign warfare no no this isn't a third world country

00:44:16.580 spicing up a little bit here we don't want that here no well if it's spicing it up you want do i

00:44:20.880 have a newsletter for you

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Off the Record - June 07, 2024

Do the Liberals care about treason？

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