Off the Record - April 05, 2024


Foreigners voting “compliant with Liberal Party’s rules”


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Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

197.34

Word Count

9,590

Sentence Count

7

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 are you dying there candace you know i'm not dying it's just i think like the baby is somehow
00:00:05.000 like sitting on my i don't even know what it is but it sounds like i'm losing my voice and my
00:00:09.920 voice sounded like this for like a month now i'm not actually losing my voice i just have a new
00:00:14.660 voice it's like the weirdest your baby just like grabbing your vocal cord somehow from uh down
00:00:19.520 there i don't know seriously i it this hasn't happened with any of my other pregnancies so i
00:00:24.840 i don't have any explanation but i just i just have like a raspy sounding voice now i sound like
00:00:30.280 one of those like i i don't know like i'm like a smoker or like one of those like sue like soothing
00:00:36.080 like yoga you know like yoga podcasts or like meditation podcasts i must say i'm not actually
00:00:41.880 very familiar with the dolls and tones of the yoga meditation podcasters this is new harrison are you
00:00:48.380 no i'm gonna say this this is new to me as well never heard uh well never heard of that happening
00:00:55.360 and also no i i haven't listened to any of the yoga yoga instructors soothing voices but they're always
00:01:02.500 they're always so calm and so like subdued and maybe a little raspy i don't know i it's amazing how
00:01:09.700 like there is a type of voice in different media like npr voice there's like a very distinctive public
00:01:15.700 broadcaster voice that's different than other broadcaster voices well andrew you have like the
00:01:21.400 best talk radio voice like like your voice was like i don't know if you like made your voice to
00:01:25.860 sound that way or if you were like 15 years old and you just like sounded like a radio announcer
00:01:29.840 in the playground but like it gives me like sports announcer uh sports announcer vibes that's funny
00:01:35.080 because you you know very little about sports andrew i know i was always so jealous there was a guy i
00:01:40.360 worked with when i i was in radio who had like a just a perfect one and it was not fake but it was
00:01:46.740 just that really deep baritone everything he said sounded like he was a calling a sports game and i was
00:01:53.580 always so jealous so you're very kind no i think i think you have the perfect radio voice so you picked
00:01:59.720 the right profession andrew okay guys let's get this started
00:02:03.480 hi everyone thank you so much for tuning into the podcast this is off the record i always introduce
00:02:16.820 my guests which is andrew lawton host of the andrew lawton show and harrison faulkner host of race
00:02:21.360 showed i don't know that i always introduce myself so i'm candace malcolm i'm the founder of true north and
00:02:25.620 i'm the host of the candace malcolm show as well and we were just talking about how my voice is raspy
00:02:31.420 and i'm kind of losing it so forgive me um if i have to take breaks to to drink water or just try to
00:02:36.000 sit upright i'm i you can't see obviously from this uh angle but i'm pretty heavily pregnant over here and
00:02:42.120 i think it must somehow be related because my voice has just changed but anyways we've got a great show
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00:03:01.000 you never miss an episode never miss a story so uh i guess before we get into it all i just want to
00:03:07.840 wish you both um a happy march break season uh that's what we heard over and over again over the
00:03:14.100 weekend last weekend and also apparently happy transgender day of visibility because it wasn't it
00:03:20.100 wasn't just easter it this is a weird thing and andrew i know you we've talked about before about
00:03:24.260 how there's like a war on christmas and no one wants to say merry christmas anymore but i i didn't
00:03:29.340 remember it spilling into easter i was kind of surprised by how many times i heard people say happy
00:03:35.000 holidays to me over easter or happy you'll be saw a lot on social media happy march break or happy march
00:03:41.820 holiday season is this a new thing or or has this always been the case i don't know i i think it's new
00:03:48.300 i mean easter always bounces around a bit sometimes it's a bit earlier other times it's a bit later so
00:03:53.580 maybe just when easter falls in march it just gets consumed by this so-called march holiday season but
00:04:00.260 no you're right i did notice a lot more of the genericization of the well first off i've never
00:04:06.300 heard of an easter season before it's always just easter there's good friday there's easter sunday and
00:04:12.100 then there's kind of easter monday which is not really a real thing but that's it like the christmas
00:04:16.400 season is a thing and that's sort of why that becomes consumed by the broader holidays but
00:04:21.280 yeah the easter season i i've never heard of until this year well do you know what it's it's almost
00:04:26.060 like they're trying to make the holiday less religion religious but they make it more because
00:04:30.400 of course it is holy week right it starts well it starts with uh lent and it starts with um uh
00:04:35.960 it should be a season but it never has it is you know it's it's a whole week it's palm sunday and
00:04:40.580 then it goes on throughout the week so they make it made it feel more religious to me when people
00:04:44.840 kept saying happy easter season um but obviously easter is a very important day for christians
00:04:51.340 and it's it's it's a very solemn sort of important holiday and so it just felt like a real slap in the
00:04:57.400 face when we had joe biden the president of the u.s coming out and declaring easter to be trans
00:05:04.160 day of visibility i think this is one of those examples where the left is just so incredibly out
00:05:09.820 of touch they don't recognize how bad of an issue this is and how much just regular people disagree
00:05:14.740 with it like you know again like bumping into parents uh at my kid's school or you dad's like
00:05:21.200 on the playground and everyone was making fun of this everyone was joking about it but how tone deaf
00:05:26.120 it was uh and ridiculous it was for the president to to call easter transgender day it's like combining
00:05:32.160 the two worst aspects which is like canceling the foundations of our civilization christianity
00:05:37.220 and pushing this trans agenda down our throats uh harrison what what are your thoughts on this
00:05:43.460 well i found it to be intentionally provocative i mean i think that the reality is like we can
00:05:49.680 pretend as though it was just a coincidence and they didn't really think about how this would impact
00:05:54.160 christians and how this would come across or we can really just kind of cut to the chase and be
00:05:58.160 honest here these are not idiots who are running the white house and this is also done by justin
00:06:03.520 trudeau he also made a transgender day of visibility post on easter both supposedly catholics who made
00:06:10.000 these proclamations on easter and again i don't think that this is just a coincidence uh when it
00:06:16.360 falls on easter you can maybe forget about transgender day of visibility but instead they have to be
00:06:23.660 provocative they have to trigger this response out of christians and of course it is an attack
00:06:28.100 on christianity to do this you are conflating easter the most important day in the christian
00:06:32.500 calendar with something that goes completely contrary to christian values and christian beliefs
00:06:38.260 again united canada in particular is a christian country that's just not a really debatable fact
00:06:44.320 the head of our country is also the head of the uh the church of england so it is a christian country
00:06:49.260 and for the prime minister to do this and for the president to do this in the united states
00:06:52.740 i think it's intentionally provocative and designed to get a response out of people
00:06:56.240 yeah it's interesting just even how things have changed because i remember a few years ago
00:07:00.480 trudeau put out a pretty religious uh statement on easter talking about what christians believe
00:07:06.480 not necessarily his faith but just putting it forward because the reality is canada is a very
00:07:11.860 diverse country and the politicians sort of recognize and acknowledge religious holidays for
00:07:17.540 all religions so we see you know we hear the prime minister talk about you know the importance of
00:07:22.180 eid or ramadan you talk about jewish holidays uh indian holidays like all hindu holidays i mean you
00:07:28.540 know all kinds of holidays and at one point he would acknowledge christians in that mix and now it
00:07:33.160 doesn't seem like he did i didn't see anything uh about easter from our prime minister but we did we
00:07:39.760 did see a lot of sort of woke wokeism taking over uh here in canada so a church in calgary i mean i don't
00:07:47.340 know if you can really consider uh unitarian churches to be churches they decided to just you
00:07:52.840 know combine easter church service with a creepy cringy groomer drag show um so that's that's
00:08:01.740 interesting that that happened and uh we also had calgary mayor jody gonduk uh tweet about i don't know
00:08:09.280 something about transgender day of visibility and how horrible daniel smith is uh implied in that
00:08:14.320 in in in the body of the tweet there but really you know just again kind of rubbing it in our faith
00:08:21.380 and trying to make east like look you can talk about trans other days right it's like christians
00:08:26.100 have this like one weekend where it is a very important very solemn holiday and it seems like
00:08:32.040 they're really going out of their way to ram this down our throat and andrew what what's your thought
00:08:36.340 well so i i actually i disagree with some of this because like with what you guys have said just
00:08:43.220 because may march 31st is the day of international transgender day of visibility and it has been
00:08:48.300 every year joe biden has proclaimed it every year easter bounces around if they fall on the same day
00:08:54.060 then you're not really if you're going to observe both in a position where you can pick and choose
00:09:00.320 when to do it i think the bigger question is why is this day itself attracting so much of this
00:09:06.940 proclamationing this proclaiming in the first place because look if you've decided that you're going to
00:09:12.700 do this then yeah if it's march 31st you make your proclamation that day i think the bigger issue is
00:09:17.780 that we've seen like we talked about this last summer at true north pride day used to be a day and
00:09:22.940 then it was pride week and then it was pride month and then the canadian government last year
00:09:26.600 was observing pride season which started in june and went all the way or so i think it started in
00:09:32.460 may actually and went all the way to september so we had basically uh three four months of pride
00:09:38.400 festivities and then you also have outside of that individual days like transgender day of visibility
00:09:44.960 and there are other days there was like uh there was some asexual awareness day that i learned of
00:09:50.280 recently that are also scattered throughout the year and i think in general there is just this uh
00:09:56.440 oversaturation of observance days in the same way that there is an oversaturation of colored ribbons
00:10:02.180 and of all of these different campaigns and i i think that it ends up becoming this battle of
00:10:07.720 performative uh recognition and declarations which are inevitably going to lead to these sorts of
00:10:13.860 things so i i don't really care about the day so much because that is just a an unfortunate
00:10:18.820 accident of timing but i do have an issue with this need to perform and virtue signal on every single
00:10:26.660 one of these days that's been declared by someone on twitter at some point well so someone was passing
00:10:32.200 this around at one point it ended up in my twitter uh feed but someone had taken all of the holidays
00:10:36.980 that they had created in british columbia and put it in a calendar and it was like the most insane
00:10:43.120 thing it was like every single day was like lesbian day of like remembrance or i mean it was non-stop
00:10:50.880 it was just like every single day was something half of them were to do with hating canada half them
00:10:55.440 were to do with celebrating other countries that weren't canada uh and then of course recently there was
00:10:59.780 a vote uh to to to name i think it was november christian heritage month in canada and i got defeated
00:11:05.620 uh so so we we don't we don't we're not willing to celebrate the actual heritage and and and history of
00:11:11.460 our own country uh but we're willing to celebrate absolutely every other thing which i think i think
00:11:15.900 you make a really good point andrew harrison any any more thoughts on this well yes i would just say
00:11:21.280 that if for example transgender day of visibility fell on the same day as eid or uh or any other for
00:11:28.780 example muslim holiday or it does we're in the middle of ramadan ramadan right so again if this if
00:11:36.000 this were if this were on the most important day if it was a one day thing and it happened on the
00:11:40.080 exact same day as a muslim holiday i don't think that you would see all of these proclamations i
00:11:45.200 just i genuinely don't i think that this is an idea that is taking place in all of these western
00:11:50.380 countries that christian holidays the most important holiday can be watered down it can be described as
00:11:56.000 march march you know holiday season it can be described as whatever you want it to be described
00:12:00.740 as but to give christians a day that is that you know can just be unobstructed by all of this woke
00:12:08.480 virtue signaling is just not going to happen in this country i don't think that it would happen
00:12:12.340 and i think that we've allowed it to happen and that's a big problem andrew maybe you'll remember
00:12:17.180 this didn't justin trudeau have a pair of socks that were like both like muslim moons and also
00:12:22.600 rainbows like gay pride rainbow socks and it was like the the biggest case of like cognitive
00:12:27.060 dissidence it's like does he understand that these two symbols just don't really go hand in hand but
00:12:33.280 he was like showing them off at one point i think i remember something yeah i'm true yeah i think it was
00:12:37.340 like they were i'm trying to remember if it was too sad if it was that he wore ramadan socks during
00:12:41.560 pride pride socks during ramadan or if they were like pride ramadan socks but i i remember that
00:12:46.440 story yeah there was it was one of the many socks in the trudeau sock collection yeah yeah those those
00:12:51.800 were back in the early days of the trudeau government but to me it was really they were halal
00:12:55.180 socks sean just uh share the link in our uh our channel here muslim hipster socks that mclean wrote
00:13:00.440 about this was the beginning of the end of mclean's hard-hitting political coverage
00:13:04.920 there it is yeah he he wore uh during pride socks that said eid mubarak on them so i i don't know
00:13:11.760 if pride overlapped with ramadan that year or if he just you know had was washing his pride socks so
00:13:16.460 he put on the eid mubarak socks i'm not sure yeah i just remember the comments uh were full of muslims
00:13:22.060 who very very uh wholeheartedly disagreed with this uh merging of the two trends happening at once so
00:13:28.660 yeah to your point i mean harrison so ramadan is underway right now and trudeau had said nothing
00:13:37.060 on good friday but had on the thursday prior posted something about ramadan so like this is the
00:13:43.600 problem i mean i'm kind of at the beginning about anything and then you can't be criticized for missing
00:13:47.800 stuff yeah and no video he didn't make a video for easter on sunday and i found that to be very
00:13:54.520 strange as well because trudeau makes videos for every every single you know pride month every
00:13:59.340 single holiday but not for easter which i found to be very surprising yeah which why i i think it
00:14:04.800 was pretty refreshing when i went on to twitter over the weekend and i saw there was a post from
00:14:09.140 pier poliev saying he has risen happy easter uh which is is is just a sort of very basic part of
00:14:15.280 easter celebrations but it seems bold and and almost provocative uh for a politician to actually
00:14:21.440 acknowledge a christian holiday these days um i think we have a video of what pier poliev posted
00:14:26.520 over the weekend he has risen today christians celebrate the resurrection of our lord and savior
00:14:33.320 jesus christ through his sacrifice he paid the ultimate price for our sins and overcame the power
00:14:40.320 of death itself so that we could rejoice in his promise of everlasting life the joy of easter unites
00:14:47.580 all canadians it reminds us that although we face hardship we have the promise of a new beginning
00:14:53.500 of redemption and of the hope of eternal life as families come together to attend church services
00:15:01.460 paint easter eggs and enjoy some much needed rest may you be refreshed and restored in the spirit
00:15:09.700 of easter season happy easter what a nice message and i i personally really appreciated that it wasn't
00:15:18.560 just pier poliev we had saskatchewan premier scott moe putting out a message just saying he has risen
00:15:24.840 happy easter saskatchewan we had new brunswick premier uh blaine higgs saying may the miracle of
00:15:29.800 easter renew your faith strengthen your spirit fill your heart with gratitude and praise
00:15:33.560 marsh and i wish you a joyous and blessed easter and danielle smith premier of alberta she wrote on
00:15:39.680 good friday good friday reminds christians of the selfless sacrifice of jesus christ and the
00:15:44.720 boundless love that he demonstrated for humanity to all albertans observing the easter holiday i hope
00:15:50.200 you may connect with your faith families and communities have a blessed good friday so like
00:15:55.920 we were saying you know politicians do this for every faith in every religion and every group i don't
00:16:00.920 know if it's pandering but to me it seemed like something that i hadn't quite seen before in recent
00:16:05.960 times which is conservatives in canada sort of just being uh like unafraid to post a message that
00:16:13.280 that would have been seen as just very normal and very important like 50 years ago uh but you know in
00:16:18.920 our inner sort of post-modern post-national civilization and culture right now it just seems
00:16:24.540 like it's almost like taboo so i see this as almost like counter-cultural and i was i was proud that the
00:16:28.900 conservatives uh were putting out these messages of faith uh what what's your take on all this andrew
00:16:34.720 i think you're right i mean there certainly is something about how there is a new counterculture
00:16:41.020 and i and i do wonder if certainly in numbers we we see that religion overall is in decline christianity
00:16:47.540 is in decline but when you break down those numbers and you look at where it is growing it's actually
00:16:52.380 quite noteworthy that this is actually uh the really traditional denominations and traditional churches
00:16:59.520 that are seeing growth and i actually think that's incredibly valuable to note so there does
00:17:04.600 seem to be even among younger people a bit of a generational shift where things that even five
00:17:08.640 years ago were seen as oh that's antiquated no one does that anymore are starting to have a bit of a
00:17:13.960 return yeah i mean i went to a church service on sunday it was a sunlight one so it was a 6 a.m
00:17:19.980 service and then the sun came up just before seven it was amazing there were hundreds of people and
00:17:24.700 you know i'm an anglican and we usually have a hard time getting more than like 30 or 40 people
00:17:29.340 out to a church uh but but there was hundreds hundreds of people everyone was out and it was
00:17:34.380 just it was it was beautiful and amazing to see uh so i i feel like there is some kind of a resurgence
00:17:39.440 around faith happening in this moment harrison do you see and do you see it among sort of younger
00:17:44.380 people in your generation gen zers yeah i think that more young canadians young christians are
00:17:51.700 looking for churches that aren't going to accept non-christian values woke preaching all this stuff and
00:17:58.880 a lot of that is a lot of that i'm seeing from the catholic church right now i'm an anglican myself
00:18:03.000 i went to two services i went to a good friday service and an easter sunday service and both
00:18:07.600 were very well attended it was nice to see but this is really this is really like we're scraping the
00:18:12.880 bottom of the barrel here uh you know the fact that we're now celebrating conservative politicians
00:18:17.500 and politicians in general who make easter posts on social media this should be a given
00:18:22.080 yeah yeah yeah this this this should be this should be almost mandatory in canada except it's
00:18:29.100 not and that is something that i think you know the idea that we're celebrating this is the problem
00:18:34.100 it's the fact that for whatever reason politicians are afraid to proclaim their faith in a christian
00:18:39.720 country they're afraid to say uh what they know to be true they're afraid to push back against things
00:18:44.900 that run contrary to their faith right like this transgender day of visibility stuff i mean this is what
00:18:51.000 the fact that this is standing out is the problem in my opinion you know uh yeah that's that's a good
00:18:57.860 way of picking it i remember back in the early days of the ben shapiro podcast he used to do like
00:19:02.220 good trump and bad trump i feel like we just did good conservative it's like good conservative when you
00:19:06.680 can muster up the courage to put out a christian message on easter uh now let's move to bad
00:19:12.360 conservative uh and or i'll let you take it from here well speaking of trump i should point out trump
00:19:17.560 in response to the biden proclamation said he would if he's elected declared christian visibility day so
00:19:24.200 uh that's basically the uh the way things are going there i wait you're you're setting me up for
00:19:29.900 something what do you oh is this the uh the erin otul story actually okay sorry he's so distant in my
00:19:36.060 memory it takes a little while to recall uh that uh erin erino something or other so yeah erin otul he
00:19:42.140 was one of the witnesses before the inquiry into foreign interference which is a big issue and i
00:19:47.600 think that there is certainly a lot of evidence that the conservatives were targeted in 2021
00:19:52.640 and to some extent in 2019 over or by agents associated with the chinese regime and i think
00:20:00.040 there's evidence that in several ridings this uh campaign that we saw the chinese uh government the
00:20:05.920 chinese communist party behind probably cost the conservatives the seats didn't cost them the
00:20:10.660 overall election it would be convenient if that were the case uh the election according to erin otul
00:20:15.940 was lost because of something else so what was your understanding then based on the modeling
00:20:22.380 uh on election day of where the conservatives would end up in terms of seats that day
00:20:29.260 yeah reliving those last few days of the campaign are we went from winning the seat count
00:20:36.800 a week before the election um with a a small modest minority to on election day losing the seat count
00:20:45.140 and still winning the popular vote we we saw the vote changing largely on the vaccine and the vaccine
00:20:51.520 mandate issue um but on election night when we we knew we were going to lose um my campaign manager
00:21:00.340 had said um our models and how the vote goes you should end up with about 127 128 seats which will
00:21:09.040 be a historic level for opposition and when you consider it was a pandemic election we we were largely
00:21:16.200 on the wrong side of public opinion on on the vaccine mandate issue which is in my view why the
00:21:21.600 prime minister called the election um that was being briefed to me to say calm down you did okay
00:21:28.120 so erin otul basically says that the vaccine issue was what cost the conservatives the election
00:21:36.180 uh which i believe it was actually covid that caused the conservative election specifically the
00:21:40.900 otul strain which uh came about in uh 2021 uh erin otul in that last week of the campaign
00:21:48.200 reversed core policies that were in his platform i think there was a bit of external influence in the
00:21:54.280 sense that when jason kenny implemented a lockdown in alberta and or a vaccine passport in alberta i
00:22:01.020 think that really hurt the conservative argument on covid but in general erin otul is revising history
00:22:06.680 in two ways number one he's saying that the conservatives were opposed to all of this vaccine mandate
00:22:12.040 nonsense which was only superficially true and also that that was the thing that cost them the election
00:22:19.280 which is absolutely in no uncertain terms untrue and it was just made up uh probably so erin otul can
00:22:26.020 sleep at night for uh leading such a disastrous campaign so when i first saw your tweet andrew i thought
00:22:33.040 that maybe he had like had a come to jesus moment he recognized that his terrible covid statements and
00:22:39.840 policies are what led him to lose the election and then i watched the video i realized that it was the
00:22:44.260 opposite it was like he was digging in his heels as if like that was somehow the reason that they
00:22:49.080 lost erin otul says he was too critical of vaccine mandates just take that in for a second i mean this
00:22:55.920 is one of the infuriating things that happens like even now talking to like a liberal friend and they
00:23:00.560 try to tell you like oh no everything was fine like we just didn't know that like school closures were
00:23:05.800 going to be so detrimental to education and oh the vaccine did work i mean it got rid of like the delta
00:23:10.460 strain or whatever and it's like it's so frustrating because you're like well sure but like look at all
00:23:15.920 this other stuff and yeah to hear him say that makes me think he's just sort of learned nothing
00:23:21.680 harrison what's your thoughts over there so i'm just confused here because i pulled up an article from
00:23:27.780 global news during the election in 2021 and it says here otul promises to implement a national
00:23:34.560 proof of covid 19 vaccination system a national vaccine passport something that trudeau didn't even do
00:23:40.340 he left that up to the provinces otul wanted to make it a federal program and he wanted to as it
00:23:45.520 says here make sure that 90 of eligible residents were vaccinated against covid 19 and is pledging to
00:23:51.220 cover the cost of time off for employees to get a shot free transportation to vaccine clinics and a
00:23:56.620 national booster shot strategy that would initially target seniors in the immunocompromised
00:24:00.900 um so i'm just confused here what exactly he means by being offside because he wanted a national
00:24:07.220 vaccine passport which was not even something that trudeau was trying to implement he wanted to make
00:24:12.020 it a national program uh i don't know what he's trying to do here what he's trying to say but
00:24:16.420 he definitely was not offside on the vaccine issue when it comes to being on the side of justin
00:24:20.940 trudeau he was offside with canadians however we do know that that's why he got ended up getting
00:24:25.020 ousted from the leadership position but during the election if he was trying to compare himself to
00:24:29.320 trudeau he was right there if not even if not even ahead of him on the issue well that's that's how i saw it
00:24:35.400 i think that like that's why when i first saw andrew street i thought maybe he realized that
00:24:39.200 if the conservatives had taken a strong principal position like they did at the very beginning
00:24:43.500 saying we're not going to implement a vaccine passport ever period and we don't we don't agree
00:24:48.000 with this maybe they would have won the election maybe canadians would have had a bit more respect
00:24:51.740 for a party that was willing to stay on its principles but the fact that we had this mushy uh unclear
00:24:56.800 policy i mean i'm going to play this clip this is this is one of the worst moments in canadian politics
00:25:01.200 for me this is like peak uniparty cringe uh basically they did a psa a public service
00:25:07.940 announcement before the debate where they all agreed they all agreed the science is settled
00:25:13.220 everybody go get your go get your booster go get your shahs so this this was one of the worst
00:25:18.060 the lows of the lows of this election let's play that clip we're all like this together we've come so
00:25:25.540 far in the fight against covid it's time to finish this pandemic for good so get vaccinated if you know
00:25:31.060 someone who hasn't talked to them for our kids for our communities for our economy it's how we get
00:25:37.220 forward together vaccines are safe and effective for use vaccines are the best way for you to
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00:26:24.380 no all right on three on three candace and harrison we're all in this together
00:26:31.040 one i'm not doing it i'm not doing i had a moment there where i totally forgot who the woman at the
00:26:37.540 end was and i had i had like who who is that again that's the the the green party leader i i believe but
00:26:44.540 oh my god no i i had that because i sat next to her on a flight once and i was like
00:26:48.380 i know her who is she and then i i was like oh right and i couldn't even remember her name so it's
00:26:53.080 like anime so i interestingly i because she was uh she's jewish and she was subjected to some just
00:26:58.420 horrendous anti-semitism from within the green party and i had actually looked her up a couple of
00:27:03.040 days ago unrelated to this story because i was curious what she had said about israel since october
00:27:09.040 7th and and unfortunately she has been silenced as she was ousted as green leader so i hadn't she hasn't
00:27:14.460 tweeted in three years so uh the the mystery continues but anyway carry on when i bumped
00:27:19.500 into her the airport seemed like she was pretty pretty private not not really interested in uh
00:27:23.600 in talking about politics at all but i mean come on that was just that was the worst that watching
00:27:28.200 erin o'toole stand like it's often the case that all the other parties agree that all the left-wing
00:27:32.980 parties agree on a policy and then the conservatives are like the ones out there speaking for common
00:27:37.620 sense and saying something different and being brave and having a backbone and saying like no we
00:27:41.620 don't we don't want to have like whatever the policy and and this was like to me that's why
00:27:47.200 erin o'toole lost is because he caved and because he was saying the exact same stuff as the other
00:27:51.420 parties which then you might as well just vote for the liberals if you want that vote for the liberals
00:27:55.120 and i think that's why he lost i i want to i want to cover this story uh harrison and you might
00:28:00.320 take an interest in it as well uh we're learning a little bit about uh the liberal party and how
00:28:05.640 they allow international students and non-residents and foreigners to participate in their party's
00:28:13.520 uh nominations so uh steve chase who's a great fantastic award-winning journalist over at the
00:28:19.000 globe and mail one of the good ones uh he he posted this uh i asked liberal party whether they would
00:28:24.560 change their policy to disallow international students from voting and nomination races response
00:28:28.760 from liberal spokesperson the liberal party of canada is a grassroots movement our party's constitution
00:28:34.320 bylaws are the result of thousands of registered liberals debating and voting at national conventions
00:28:38.440 to amend and update these documents over the years that's how we build the most open and inclusive
00:28:43.640 movement in canada and any future amendment would follow that process steve chase uh also also
00:28:50.380 mentioned that in tabled documents they showed that the liberal party national director is am ishmael
00:28:55.860 for an interference inquiry that signing up international students with the liberal party and busing them to
00:29:00.800 voting sites for nomination races is compliant with liberal party rules so you know here we anyone can
00:29:08.000 join the liberal party you don't have to pay anything you don't even have to be a canadian you don't even
00:29:12.480 have to be a permanent residence heck you don't even have to live in canada um and and and again this was
00:29:18.620 all in the context of that um uh foreign interference inquiry that andrew mentioned that uh
00:29:23.720 erin o'toole was talking at as well it just seems pretty shocking to me this is a state of our democracy where we have a
00:29:29.740 party defending a practice where people that aren't canadian in any way shape or form are allowed to
00:29:35.480 participate in our democracy doesn't that just feel like it feels like we don't really have a democracy
00:29:41.900 anymore andrew what are your thoughts on this well yeah and also it's important to know that uh you
00:29:46.680 know the conservative party i don't know how it is for the ndp probably similar because they none of them
00:29:51.620 work but the conservatives have paid membership so if you want to be a member of the conservative
00:29:56.040 party of canada you have to pay your 15 you can't pay with cash so it means that there is a bit of
00:30:02.020 a fraud prevention mechanism built in there the liberals at some point changed it to free membership
00:30:07.120 so not only can you sign up international students but you could sign them up without ever having them
00:30:13.440 pay for it which means it would be very easy for a bad actor to go in take a list of names put them on
00:30:20.180 the list and do whatever is necessary to get these people out to vote in a nomination and nominations
00:30:25.900 are already very very susceptible to fraud and wrongdoing they're not really overseen by elections
00:30:33.300 canada it's kind of the wild west for political parties we've heard stories especially in ontario
00:30:38.680 politics of you know people that you know have been registered 10 12 14 names to an apartment and voting
00:30:45.200 in nominations and leaderships uh the liberals don't seem to care about that i mean they see it as a
00:30:50.160 feature and not a bug well they call it a grassroots a grassroots movement so i guess that includes
00:30:56.840 everybody in the world harrison what are your thoughts on this well it's very post-national
00:31:01.100 state of the liberal party to allow this of course to allow non-citizens to to engage in our democracy
00:31:06.340 and of course as andrew said the nomination process is oftentimes in our country well i don't think you
00:31:13.080 mentioned this part but oftentimes the the nomination process is more difficult than the election itself
00:31:17.580 because we have so many ridings that are guaranteed to go one way or the other yeah so for conservatives
00:31:22.400 conservative ridings the nomination race is the hardest part and for the liberals the same is true
00:31:27.060 we have evidence that many of the uh individuals who are named by some of that original globe global
00:31:33.980 news reporting about chinese infiltration into our into our democracy a lot of those individuals
00:31:39.940 were caught up in these nomination races that were that were you know significantly helped
00:31:44.740 by non-citizens by international students by chinese students who are being bused in as they say
00:31:50.700 to to in my opinion interfere with this process this is supposed to be a canadian system for canadians
00:31:58.580 where canadians choose their leaders and their representatives in parliament not for temporary
00:32:03.740 foreign workers not for international students not for non-citizens to engage in to into to direct
00:32:09.980 change into how our country is going to go into the future um you know it is also convenient that
00:32:15.960 this is the same government who has skyrocketed international student visas into this country
00:32:20.760 and basically taken the system and driven it out of control now all of a sudden those people can
00:32:25.980 engage the liberal party and they can dictate who they want to represent them and actual canadians
00:32:30.680 into into parliament it's absurd it but it but it's very post-national state of justin true in the
00:32:36.300 liberal party well and even to defend it like that saying it's it's compliant with our policies i mean
00:32:40.980 we have a graph here from a report that i did that shows the incredible growth in international students
00:32:46.980 who've been coming to canada we're at the point where 900 000 they had to cap it at 900 000 last year
00:32:52.440 uh so you know this is contributing to all sorts of social problems as well and even our own prime
00:32:57.760 minister is admitting um that this massive spike in immigration that has happened under his watch under
00:33:04.460 his guidelines under his policy is far beyond what canada has been able to absorb it's funny he's
00:33:12.160 starting to sound like a true north uh host because that's what we say it's like you know don't
00:33:17.760 necessarily have a problem with immigration but you have to make sure that you can absorb the population
00:33:21.720 and you can integrate them and when you're letting in 2.2 million people a year it's just not working
00:33:26.160 and it's pretty pretty obvious so justin true is acknowledging that andrew i don't know if that
00:33:31.440 is going to lead to a policy change or just like a shrug your shoulders and and don't take any
00:33:36.100 accountability the the trudeau special yeah i think it's more likely to be the latter and and we already
00:33:42.380 heard a little bit of this from uh well i forget his name now the housing minister who used to be the
00:33:47.160 immigration minister fraser yeah i was i was gonna say i don't actually don't know what i was gonna say
00:33:52.000 sean something but anyway uh they're all interchangeable the uh he had said something where
00:33:56.600 he basically said the government has no say in temporary uh foreign workers and temporary
00:34:02.840 residents like international students that he said oh no no we we only cap you know and have a
00:34:07.860 number for permanent residence the rest of these it's all just you know basically it's the private
00:34:11.900 sector that figures out how many tfw's we get and it's universities that figure like he had this
00:34:16.660 entirely just ridiculous rationalization for why this is somehow not the government's fault
00:34:22.800 wow it really makes you wonder who's running who's running this place uh the liberals don't
00:34:29.740 seem to have any sense of accountability i'm gonna i'm gonna turn this over to you now harrison you
00:34:34.500 want to talk about this ontario teacher story yeah this is a very very strange story and i'm wondering
00:34:40.380 where it all came from but uh in short ontario school boards have now have now taken to the courts
00:34:46.140 to sue meta and tiktok for four and a half billion dollars for quote distracting students
00:34:53.360 all right so here's the breakdown several ontario school boards have filed lawsuits against social
00:34:58.180 media giants tiktok and meta accusing them of inflicting damage on students mental health
00:35:04.200 the suit alleges that the social media apps are interfering with students ability to learn
00:35:09.400 and that teachers are left dealing with the fallout of those effects
00:35:12.580 so so there are now the claimants here the the the school boards are alleging that social media
00:35:19.240 platforms in question were designed for compulsive use and have rewired the way children think behave
00:35:24.600 and learn and they're seeking four and a half billion dollars all right so i'm just very confused here
00:35:30.440 why the school boards are suing tiktok and meta the social media platforms these big tech companies
00:35:37.740 with our money of course because they're making the lives of teachers more difficult
00:35:42.000 right that that doesn't make much sense to me but it seems to me in fact that maybe
00:35:46.460 a lawyer is behind this and is managing to make a ton of money off of school boards again
00:35:52.180 off of our money for a lawsuit that isn't going to go anywhere how exactly the the social media
00:35:57.820 companies are are making life more difficult for teachers is beside me it's beyond me and so
00:36:04.320 apparently with doug ford he calls it nonsense he said that uh school board lawsuits launched
00:36:10.140 facebook instagram snapchat and tiktok are nonsense and urge them to instead focus on the kids
00:36:16.180 so candace what do you think about this you've got young kids who are going to be going to school in
00:36:21.160 some cases probably in school do you think that uh school boards have any grounds here to sue
00:36:26.160 big tech companies well i just don't understand like if the schools don't want kids on social media
00:36:31.380 at schools it's pretty easy just ban phones like that's up to the schools i i'm often like just
00:36:37.720 absolutely blown away that schools allow teenagers to bring their phones to school and you walk around
00:36:43.720 the hallway and you see kids like with their face down on phone it's so different than when i was in
00:36:48.240 high school like there's a growing movement especially in the uk of schools just saying enough
00:36:53.340 you cannot have a school you cannot have a phone with you at school leave it at home and if we see it
00:36:58.160 school we'll confiscate it and you will not get it back it's not like there are ways to deal with
00:37:03.960 this i think that there's some truth to the idea that these apps and these phones are addictive and
00:37:08.140 it's not good for kids it's not good for their mental health it's not good for socialization
00:37:11.500 i think that the solution is tougher rules and better parenting and better you know authority from
00:37:18.360 the schools as opposed to just what you what you're saying trying to go shake down social media
00:37:23.020 companies it seems to be a theme in canadian uh policy politics these days uh but i yeah this is
00:37:29.900 this one's just i'm at a loss this is this is very strange andrew what do you think
00:37:35.660 yeah i'm i'm kind of i it's strange is the best way of putting it is it like it's really difficult
00:37:43.380 to discern what motivations are on stuff like this yeah i i don't understand this as you said
00:37:49.040 candace they could easily just ban phones i know the ontario government even floated that idea
00:37:53.220 not too long ago to try to get phones out of out of schools and out of classrooms but again this is
00:37:59.280 an opportunity for the for school boards to use our money to go after big tech companies are they
00:38:04.320 going to win i doubt it but someone is going to make a lot of money out of this and someone had the
00:38:08.860 idea to do this yeah i think that might be a real motivation here someone wants to make a bunch of
00:38:14.000 money off these school boards by going after big tech companies well and it kind of lawyers
00:38:19.100 maestri lawyers are the real winners in this the real villains a it also sort of shows the mindset
00:38:25.740 of the school board that rather than like looking inward and trying to reflect on your own policies
00:38:30.600 and how you can you know encourage kids just get off their phones talk to parents about it like
00:38:35.280 you know do it do you do your own kind of like education campaign about the harms of social media
00:38:40.160 uh you know they just try to you get get a headline and go for a huge number 4.5 billion dollars like
00:38:48.440 is that going to go to the individual children i doubt it it's going to go to the school boards
00:38:52.560 uh so this just seems like yeah a very misguided uh attempt to fix a problem that's real and i and i do
00:39:00.020 encourage uh parents to limit their children's uh screen time not allow them to go onto social media
00:39:06.640 and not allow them to to enter into that world we've seen so much about how the sort of slippery
00:39:11.440 slope behind you know a young 12 13 year old girl going on tiktok and all of a sudden she believes
00:39:17.640 she's transgender or she hates she hates canada and she believes that canada is like a genocidal state
00:39:23.300 like there's there's so much there's so much nastiness out there you you have to protect your
00:39:27.620 children from it and there is no way there is no way mike actually i was talking to some of the
00:39:31.900 parents at my kid's school about this because you can buy these things that are called dumb phones
00:39:35.980 and they look like smartphones but they're dumb phones and all they can do is just call mom and
00:39:40.320 dad right so like the kid doesn't feel embarrassed or left out when like all their friends have like
00:39:44.740 these cool android and iphones uh they can pull out a phone that kind of looks like that and they can
00:39:48.800 play around on it but it doesn't actually allow them to like access the internet or any of like
00:39:52.760 the horror horrible horrible things that you can find on there and also one more thing how many of
00:39:57.680 these how many teachers use tiktok themselves don't we see all these videos of these teachers
00:40:02.240 making all these very strange uh lgbt transgender uh tiktoks going around we see them on twitter all
00:40:09.860 the time so surely there's got to be quite a few teachers themselves who are using these social media
00:40:14.800 apps maybe that maybe that's making their teaching job a little more difficult as well i find that to
00:40:19.260 be very strange someone someone someone should address that yeah i forgot to make this joke during our
00:40:23.780 last segment but you know the the person doing the most to promote transgender uh visibility and
00:40:29.400 awareness is the account libs of tiktok which literally just takes you know deranged sort of
00:40:35.600 teachers or people who are transgender talking about crazy things and and promoting them so that
00:40:40.600 everyone can see the kinds of things they're saying and so often harrison to your point they're
00:40:44.420 they're teachers sometimes they're even ontario teachers um that are that are on there talking about
00:40:49.060 their indoctrination programs and and all the plans that they have to turn everybody into uh you know
00:40:55.220 an ally or being transgender themselves so i i think you're right they could they could show some better
00:41:00.460 leadership there okay andrew i'll pass it over to you uh you how you you are going to wrap up this
00:41:07.320 episode with uh an interesting story that you came across yeah this is a weird one so i i kind of love
00:41:14.660 when politicians and political leaders decide to bluff call it's like in the u.s when all of those red
00:41:22.440 state governors just started shipping migrants up to like sanctuary cities in massachusetts saying okay
00:41:27.800 here you go you deal with it so germany has for whatever reason decided to crack down on trophy
00:41:33.960 hunting now uh there isn't this wide proliferation of trophy hunting in dresden or something they're talking
00:41:39.780 about germans that go abroad trophy hunt and then import their trophies and in canada there are
00:41:44.980 actually uh quite a few restrictions on this as well you can't just bring back your rhinoceros horn
00:41:49.680 or something like that so germany has done this now there are some countries where trophy hunting there
00:41:54.980 there are some places where trophy hunting is very predatory um it's uh very icky to a lot of people
00:42:00.420 there are other places where trophy hunting is a part of the economy and it's a way that wealthy
00:42:05.260 tourists come in spend a lot of money and kill animals that there are too many of and elephants
00:42:10.720 african elephants which are an endangered species are actually not endangered in botswana which has had
00:42:16.160 so much success in its conservation efforts that botswana is kind of overrun by elephants so they can
00:42:21.880 sustain this trophy hunting industry there so botswana has said to germany all right well uh why don't
00:42:28.860 we just send you 20 000 elephants now i don't know the logistics of shipping 20 000 elephants i mean
00:42:35.080 when i want to send like a letter to someone i'm amazed at oh well you actually have to pay for
00:42:40.020 priority airmail and it's going to cost you 50 so uh 20 000 element elephants from botswana to germany
00:42:45.740 probably a little costly there but uh botswana is saying to germany well if you don't want to
00:42:50.780 take in our trophies how about you just deal with the elephants yourselves i love it
00:42:55.340 harrison i know you had some thoughts as everyone just says all right well there's nothing more to say on
00:43:03.340 this i wonder you said it all well i'm in agreement i'm in agreement they should they should you know
00:43:07.540 enrich the german and the german landscape with some with some uh botswana imported elephants that
00:43:13.460 would really shake things up in uh in the forest over there but again no i think that again we had
00:43:19.500 this conversation at the beginning of the show i think it didn't make it into the i don't think it
00:43:23.700 made it into the video but it was basically about how a lot of these african countries and these
00:43:29.180 rural villages in africa want westerners to come in and trophy hunt and to clear out animals that
00:43:34.760 are causing problems to not only their community but also to the rest of the wildlife in that area
00:43:39.540 they see it as a win-win they're getting rid of animals that are that are you know causing
00:43:44.460 significant problems and of course oftentimes with these communities when you take when you kill these
00:43:49.940 trophy animals the food goes to the village so the villagers eat the food that you've come in and
00:43:55.000 spend tens of thousands of dollars to to shoot and to hunt and then you're kind of it's a win-win
00:44:01.860 right the economy benefits they're clearing out animals that need to be called and of course the
00:44:06.740 community gets to eat a lot of these a lot of the meat that ends up coming here so this is also just
00:44:12.020 seems like another woke policy i don't understand where it's coming from but i do think that you
00:44:16.200 know it might enrich the german landscape to have some elephants i i'm just i'm just picturing you
00:44:21.840 know some elephants like stomping through berlin or something like that and it's it's very
00:44:25.400 satisfying way to take down the berlin wall if you had 20 000 elephants roaming the streets
00:44:30.040 someone get on the ai image generator let's see let's see how they've come up with that that'd be
00:44:34.680 hilarious i mean not to turn it out too much but when i was in grad school i actually wrote a paper
00:44:38.720 on this topic it was about the devolution elephants to germany from but no it was on the
00:44:43.700 devolution of land rights in namibia which is another country in south uh south africa southern
00:44:50.100 africa and basically what they did was they took uh like government land and they they gave it to a
00:44:56.280 private company who ran one of these big game farms in in the hopes of conservation so the idea was that
00:45:01.400 when you have tourists coming in to hunt uh there's an incentive for local people to uh make sure that
00:45:09.200 the the population sustain themselves so since they brought in this program the number of elephants and
00:45:13.920 wildlife uh endangered wildlife has actually increased by like five or ten percent um because when when
00:45:19.920 when it's when it's completely wild there's no one it's a tragedy of the commons argument uh basic
00:45:24.480 one uh but but you know it's it's it's kind of counterintuitive because usually when you see
00:45:29.460 you know people hunting you think oh this is why these animals are endangered um but it's it's actually
00:45:35.020 the way it works in practice is the opposite that when you have the market involved where there's
00:45:40.340 incentives to keep these things alive um the populations grow because they do a better job
00:45:44.580 um doing that and i think that's that's what's happening in bus one i think this is a case for
00:45:49.300 argument for a lot of hunting i mean andrew you're much more involved in the hunting world uh than i
00:45:54.360 am but i i believe that's why we are allowed to hunt animals like deer because there's there's just
00:45:59.440 too many of them and and they become a nuisance and and hunters are actually doing a service
00:46:04.060 to to to farmers and to the to the broader uh country and that's that's part of the argument that i
00:46:09.960 don't think people who want to have these like knee-jerk reaction bans is that they just don't
00:46:14.400 really understand it yeah no exactly and and oftentimes if we didn't have people that were
00:46:19.800 doing this for recreational reasons it would be some massive boondoggle government program that would
00:46:23.920 have to be responsible for it well wasn't there a story of the feds paying a bunch of foreigners to
00:46:29.160 go and chew deer in british columbia not too long ago did you not hear about that story where i didn't
00:46:34.240 the locals like the setup to a movie no i know no no it's it's it's real and i'm gonna i'm gonna
00:46:40.140 have sean put this in the post roll so people know that i'm not just making it up not a conspiracy
00:46:44.260 theorist over there that that that the that locals in canada were were asked about the federal
00:46:48.880 government because they paid tens of thousands of dollars to a group of foreigners to call deer
00:46:53.020 when the locals would have done it for free and they would have had the food for themselves but
00:46:56.340 again the federal government does get in on this and they just they botch it every single time
00:47:00.820 well that's not surprising that's i think i guess that's a good way to end the show the
00:47:06.420 federal government botches everything they ever try to do so we'll leave it at that gentlemen thank
00:47:11.500 you so much for joining us uh thanks to the audience for tuning in this has been off the record
00:47:15.660 and uh remember everything you just heard is in fact off the record
00:47:19.040 yeah we should do your uh idea harrison just do the the true north christmas party in botswana
00:47:32.880 yeah i think it will be good you know be an interesting story at least i'm sure uh our haters
00:47:40.860 would would would dine off that for quite a while though yeah we would and it's just driving around
00:47:46.220 in a utv with an elect with an lmg just saying yeah yeah come and get me maybe we get an updated
00:47:52.660 uh in our wikipedia page i want to get one of those safari helmets in a safari suit and uh
00:47:58.220 oh you're going like full like 1920s uh colonialist uh chic yeah yeah i really embraced the whole the
00:48:03.920 whole trip that'll be great for your reputation harrison yes i think so you'll never get called a
00:48:10.020 white supremacist again yep it'll put it all it'll put it all to rest
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