Off the Record - May 03, 2024


Is Jagmeet Singh delusional？


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Jagmeet Singh seems to have a delusional view of his chances of winning the next federal election. Will he be the next Prime Minister of Canada? Will he even be re-elected in 2020? Find out what we have to say about this and more on this week's Off The Record.

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00:00:00.000 All right. Well, it's my first time hosting the show. We've got William here with us, our chief operating officer, and hopefully he doesn't have a panic attack with anything that I might say that might get us into some trouble here.
00:00:12.160 No, I have absolute confidence in your ability to scale message and our ability to do editing.
00:00:19.340 Perfect. Absolutely right. And Sue Ann, where are you coming into, where are you beaming into for this episode?
00:00:25.500 I'm beaming in from planet Florida, and I am back in Toronto in two weeks. And I have to tell you guys that it has been like a different world down here. God bless Ron DeSantis. He is not allowing any sort of protesting, no free Palestine flags or banners, no blatant acts of anti-Semitism.
00:00:50.220 There are a few masks, although, you know, I've seen people in masks, mostly New Yorkers, I would say.
00:00:58.300 Maybe a few snowbirds as well who brought down their Canadian values to Florida with some masks.
00:01:05.160 Yeah. Yeah. But I would say mostly New Yorkers. I want to go up to them and say 2020 is calling. They want you back.
00:01:13.800 Stand out like a sore thumb, I guess. All right, guys, with that, let's get into it.
00:01:20.220 All right. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Off the Record. I am Harrison Faulkner.
00:01:29.740 We are joined by the True North Chief Operating Officer, William Macbeth, and True North Journalist, Sue Ann Levy.
00:01:37.200 Guys, how's everyone's week been?
00:01:39.860 Great.
00:01:41.300 I mean, we had snow here in Calgary earlier today, so I'm definitely envious of Sue Ann right now. 0.92
00:01:47.280 And it's 80 plus here.
00:01:50.220 Unfair.
00:01:51.720 Let's get into this first story right away. It's about Jagmeet Singh, and he has some rather unfounded optimism about his chances in the next upcoming federal election.
00:02:02.880 Take a look at this article that we wrote here. Jagmeet Singh, guys, he genuinely believes that he will win the next federal election.
00:02:11.660 We're going to throw to this clip here, and it kind of explains a little bit of this, as he says, defiant optimism. Take a listen to this.
00:02:19.720 Most of the positive programs enacted by this liberal government only happened because the NDP was holding their feet to the fire. In the next election, would you consider offering the liberals another power-sharing minority government?
00:02:30.720 Hmm. I'm going to say no right away.
00:02:35.480 Because we're going to win the next election. We're going to be the ones. Come on now.
00:02:39.560 Jagmeet Singh, I defied the odds. We're going to win. Because people need us to win. I genuinely mean it.
00:02:50.260 Defiant optimism. He's defiant of the reality, it appears, in this country. William, what do you make of that clip?
00:02:59.360 Yeah, I mean, I know we've legalized marijuana here in Canada. I wonder what else Mr. Singh happens to be on to have such a warped view of reality.
00:03:06.980 If you look at the polling, there isn't a moment where Jagmeet Singh and the New Democrats have approached winning even the slimmest minority government, let alone outright winning an election.
00:03:17.900 This is a guy who has driven NDC support absolutely into the ground. He's abandoned his role as an opposition party to prop up a tired and, frankly, loathed liberal government.
00:03:28.840 And I think when people go to the polls, they're going to send a lot of New Democrats their walking papers. He's not going to win the next election.
00:03:37.360 He had that. Oh, we've got we've got another guest on the show, it appears, Sue Ann, who has just joined us on off the record here.
00:03:44.220 Monty agrees that, you know, that Jagmeet Singh is a lost cause.
00:03:50.540 And now people are resigning. Some of his MPs are resigning. His party has become the party of anti-Semites.
00:03:59.360 You've got people who are getting up wearing keffias in the legislature and you've got people making motions to end the arms distribution to Israel.
00:04:11.940 I mean, could this party do more to drive itself down in the polls? Could this party be loathed more?
00:04:23.300 This is the same Jagmeet Singh who walks around wearing Rolex watches and driving, you know, designer cars and thinks he is the champion of the working people.
00:04:32.700 This guy is so disconnected from reality. It's surreal.
00:04:36.160 He had that he had that little that that pause right when he was sitting in his chair, because I think he realized that if he didn't say something about, you know, wanting to actually continue his political career and wanting to win, then it would appear as though he has no use in Ottawa at all.
00:04:51.640 He sits down and he's like, wait, I have to say something. I have to say something about, you know, about my our political chances.
00:04:57.460 So we're going to win. You know, we're going to win. Everyone be happy, be optimistic.
00:05:00.720 It seems as though, William, he knows that there is no chance for him.
00:05:05.420 It seems more and more likely, actually, that this agreement with Justin Trudeau was not really about advancing some of these NDP policies as much as it may have actually been about personally advancing himself and staying in power,
00:05:18.220 because any election that would have been called without this power sharing agreement would have certainly seen not only his party get defeated, but he potentially would lose his seat.
00:05:26.600 No, I think you're absolutely right. And if you look at what's happened in some other places where we've seen power sharing agreements,
00:05:33.920 the one I'm most familiar with is when David Cameron won a minority election in the UK and formed a coalition government with the Liberal Democrats under Nick Clegg.
00:05:45.300 Well, when the next election actually happened, the Liberal Democrats and Nick Clegg were blasted out of the water.
00:05:50.960 It was really the end of them politically, not just for that election, but up until this time, it's been more than 10 years now.
00:05:58.120 And I think you're going to see the same thing. The Democrats have abandoned the one key thing that they had,
00:06:03.360 which was the ability to extract concessions from the Liberal government in exchange for their support on key votes.
00:06:09.580 And by signing a blank check and saying, we're going to back you no matter what election, you know, vote after vote, issue after issue.
00:06:16.700 They really said, we are open to being taken advantage of instead of having a fight for their support on issue by issue.
00:06:23.340 And I think it was a terrible mistake on the part of NDP strategists.
00:06:26.900 And it's going to bite them in the ass in the next election. Excuse my, excuse my Western colloquialism.
00:06:32.280 Yeah, he never really got anything out of this, I don't think. He kept talking about, you know, pharma care and dental care.
00:06:40.420 But he himself and his party never really got what they wanted.
00:06:43.740 And every time he's been asked about this agreement, about not getting what he was wanting to get out of it in the first place, he has refused to do anything about it.
00:06:52.680 You're absolutely right. I mean, he could have extracted a lot of concessions from this Liberal government.
00:06:59.900 Ones I wouldn't personally have been supportive of ideologically, but I would have at least respected the fact that he represents a constituency of voters who believe strongly in certain things.
00:07:09.820 Instead, what do we have? We have a late, watered down, incomprehensible dental care strategy that no Canadian fully knows if they're covered by or not.
00:07:17.480 The beginnings of some form of pharma care program, but that has put them in huge conflict with the provinces who say the plan, once again, doesn't take into account the existing situation on the ground.
00:07:28.500 And that's really about it. The only other thing he's extracted, of course, is a later election date, an election being held in 2025, when a not inconsiderable number of MPs will qualify for their generous taxpayer funded pension plans.
00:07:42.100 Of course. And Sue Ann, you mentioned the NDP's ideological commitment to the Palestine issue and other very strange foreign policy positions.
00:07:52.660 It doesn't even seem as though Jagmeet Singh has set his party up so that left-wing Liberal voters would end up going to his party instead of Justin Trudeau's party in the next election.
00:08:02.900 It seems as though, during the next election, Jagmeet Singh's not going to gain any Liberal voters from Trudeau's party and instead be left with a dwindling base in his own party.
00:08:14.200 Yeah, well, he's let them down, his party down with respect to the, you know, being tough on the anti-Semitic diatribe that goes on in the legislature.
00:08:24.960 Heather McPherson comes to mind. And Charlie Angus, who's resigning. But, you know, the repeated calls by her are to, not just for a ceasefire, but to end the arms deal with Israel is just unconscionable.
00:08:44.420 And he's never said anything, never spoken up to me. Saying nothing is, you know, basically saying everything that he agrees with it. He's never kept any of them in line.
00:08:57.180 And the other thing is that you were talking about he hasn't made any sort of tangible deals. Look, the cost of living in Canada, gas prices, this, that, price of food, price of basic services has gone up tremendously under the Liberals.
00:09:14.420 If he were a champion of the working class, as he's supposed to be, even though he wears a Rolex watch, you know, he would be standing up and screaming from the rooftops. 0.96
00:09:25.680 The only time I actually heard him screaming was to go after Galen Weston at Loblaws, you know, grocery prices, targeting him. He's obsessed with that guy.
00:09:36.240 But, you know, overall, he's gone along with everything the Liberals done to make our life more unaffordable.
00:09:43.100 You're absolutely right. I mean, he should be tackling this issue. He should be holding the government to account for the out-of-control cost of living.
00:09:52.100 But, of course, he is, and he seems more interested in other things, probably like his pension.
00:09:56.220 Sue Ann, you brought this up about, you brought up the anti-Semitism issue. You recently published a great op-ed in True North.
00:10:03.360 Why don't you go through what we're seeing on campuses and what you're trying to tackle here in this latest True North article of yours?
00:10:09.500 Well, I've been watching with tremendous interest and actually tremendous disdain and disappointment at what has happened on university campuses, both in the States, because I am located in the States right now, and it's, you know, gone into Canada now.
00:10:27.280 It's morphed into Canadian on Canadian campuses. I've watched these kids who are kids because for the large part, I would say mommy and daddy are still paying their tuition because who can afford to go to Colombia for $70,000 US?
00:10:44.960 I've watched them bar Jewish kids from entry onto campus. I've watched them vandalized buildings. I've watched them set up these encampments, very professional-looking encampments. 0.90
00:10:58.120 And then, of course, the epitome of all this entitlement is the young lady, a PhD, a leftist PhD, who wanted humanitarian aid. She wanted food to be delivered to the building at Colombia that they had vandalized. 0.99
00:11:14.920 And, you know, the same in, you know, at McGill, they're screaming, Jew hatred, and nobody's doing anything.
00:11:21.920 So my question the other day is I'm watching all this, like, where are the parents in all of this? What has happened? Has the nuclear family broken down so much that parents are not either raising their kids right to have any moral compass, to have any boundaries, to have any respect for authority?
00:11:39.920 I mean, I talk about in the column about the fact that politicians have no respect, and schools have become cesspools of leftist dogma. So, I mean, what should we expect?
00:11:54.920 But parents have essentially handed their kids over to schools and expected them to parent. And, you know, I'm wondering, I haven't heard any speak out.
00:12:04.920 Are they watching this young lady who's asking for humanitarian aid, you know, DoorDash, essentially, to deliver some food to their building? Are they watching this? And are they ashamed? Are they embarrassed? Are they the slightest bit angry? I don't understand it.
00:12:23.240 William, what do you make of what we're seeing in the United States and now just recently at U of T?
00:12:28.140 Well, I did have to laugh at the Columbia student protester who demanded that they be delivered food. You know, there's an expression that said the revolution will not be televised. Well, in this case, the revolution will not be catered. And if you were going to occupy a building, maybe you should have thought ahead of time about bringing snacks and drinks from home.
00:12:50.640 But I think Sue Ann makes a great point, which is obviously these kids can wake up one morning in the past couple of weeks and decide to be rabidly pro-Hamas and anti-Semitic.
00:13:03.740 It's a case of this is learned behavior from years of activist teachers, activist professors and activist student groups allowed to present a very distorted picture of reality to these people and parents who either through inaction or because they didn't want to have a difficult and awkward conversation with their own children allowed this to happen.
00:13:27.400 And I don't think it's a coincidence that we're now seeing a rise of parental rights movements in Canada and the United States and elsewhere saying we're deeply concerned about what our kids are being taught or indoctrinated with in schools, the propaganda they're being fed, because frankly, they're turning into people we don't recognize.
00:13:45.540 You know, I'm sure that these kids, you know, I'm sure that these kids all had loving parents and or parents who thought they were doing the best by their kids.
00:13:54.460 But in reality, they've allowed their kids to become brainwashed. And it's deeply disturbing to see the consequence, of course, being now so many Jewish students feel unwelcome and unsafe on university campuses, which is completely unacceptable. 0.53
00:14:08.380 And I think it's why there are various moves now to try and address this situation, because it's becoming untenable.
00:14:16.380 Certainly, anyone who has witnessed these protests cannot say they're simply protests in solidarity with the Palestinian people.
00:14:24.780 The rhetoric being used is hateful, violent and fully anti-Semitic.
00:14:30.620 And I think people have said enough is enough. We cannot allow this to continue.
00:14:34.340 Yeah, I mean, there's that there's that, you know, it's not a story necessarily, but people have talked about this, that, you know, you send your kid off to university and they're totally normal.
00:14:44.080 They come back with totally different color hair and they've got some strange gender that doesn't really exist anywhere.
00:14:49.200 Right. That happens. People do get indoctrinated at these schools and it is a big issue.
00:14:54.340 I think there's also a point to make here about how universities, you know, there has always been a tradition of a protest and activism, anti-war protests and activism at universities for decades in the United States and in Canada.
00:15:08.960 But there is something different about these protests.
00:15:11.180 It's not the same as the anti-apartheid protests that were happening in the 80s on university campuses.
00:15:16.840 There's something different here and there's something fundamentally wrong about what they're fighting for.
00:15:21.420 They have their facts wrong. But as you point out, as you both have pointed out, it's being fed by professors and by media who are leading them down this path that is not righteous, like the anti-apartheid protests and perhaps the anti-war protests in Vietnam.
00:15:38.860 It's completely different than what we've seen in the past.
00:15:42.480 Well, and if you go up to any of these young ladies and I saw a wonderful clip on I think it was on Twitter or on X, I should say, where these young ladies were asked, what are you doing here?
00:15:57.640 Oh, I don't know. I just thought I'd come down and join the fun.
00:16:02.060 And they don't know what the heck they're protesting about.
00:16:07.220 They don't know what from the river to the sea means.
00:16:10.020 They don't even know where Rafa is or Palestine.
00:16:13.300 They couldn't point it out in a map if you asked them.
00:16:16.660 And they're semi-articulate.
00:16:18.720 And the other thing that I didn't mention before is that it's probably exam time is finished in Canada, but certainly in the States, they're going through exams.
00:16:29.440 And do the parents not care that their kids are finishing the term or, you know, instead of sitting out in tents, shouldn't they be writing their exams?
00:16:40.460 And the whole thing about not allowing Jewish students into the university, that's outrageous, absolutely outrageous.
00:16:48.560 And parents watching this, I'm watching it on TV and I'm outraged.
00:16:53.120 Parents watching this, they're thinking, my little darling's doing this.
00:16:57.520 Maybe they don't care.
00:16:58.480 Maybe they're afraid of their little darling.
00:17:00.360 I don't know.
00:17:03.120 Yeah, William, what do you make of those comments?
00:17:07.100 Well, I think it'd be an interesting exercise to go onto these campus protests and ask them to identify what the name of the river is and what the name of the sea is.
00:17:16.820 And maybe as a precursor to having a position on this conflict, you should have to be able to answer some basic questions about it.
00:17:23.320 I bet we'd find a lot of them wouldn't be able to articulate either of those things.
00:17:27.420 But, no, I completely agree with Sue Ann's point that if you're a Jewish student who's paid for these classes and who wants to get an elite post-secondary education and now you're being denied the right to enter your buildings or move certain places on campus, it's completely unacceptable.
00:17:43.960 Protest movements are protected, but your rights infringing on other people's rights have to come up against some reasonable limits.
00:17:52.740 And I think in the case of these protests, when you see them occupying buildings, committing acts of violence, calling for hatred and violence against different groups and religions, I think all of that combined means they've crossed that line beyond legitimate, peaceful protesting into something far darker and far more disturbing.
00:18:10.420 Right. And the federal government has, in Canada, they've displayed a willingness to treat protests differently depending on the cause that is being protested.
00:18:19.160 Of course, we've seen protests just remove the university protests, these pro-Hamas, pro-Palestine protests, remove that from the university.
00:18:27.160 Let's talk about the protests outside of the synagogues, outside of religious places of worship.
00:18:33.240 Well, that was treated a completely different way than a peaceful protest in Ottawa over vaccine mandates.
00:18:41.400 That's one point I want to raise.
00:18:42.540 Another point I want to raise, going back to the tradition of protests at universities, in these protests in the past, in decades past,
00:18:50.760 I don't think the majority of people involved in these protests were trying to cover their faces, wearing masks and masking their identity.
00:18:58.900 It seems, Sue Ann, that you talk about how parents might be ashamed of seeing their children involved in these protests.
00:19:04.920 Maybe some of these people, they don't want to be seen in the protests themselves, but they want to be a part of the movement.
00:19:09.500 They're maybe afraid to show their own identity for a cause they apparently seem so worthy to stand up for.
00:19:15.920 Definitely. I think, you know, let's talk about Toronto and the rules around not masking yourself at protests.
00:19:27.200 Well, that doesn't seem to have been upheld.
00:19:31.240 So we still have them wearing these masks and the keffias wrapped around their heads. 1.00
00:19:36.460 And, you know, they, either they're ashamed or they think that if they don't, if they cover their faces, they won't be arrested because they can't be identified.
00:19:46.300 But let's just say they're fooling themselves.
00:19:51.600 Yeah. And I want to open this aspect up just to a broader conversation.
00:19:55.420 It's in the news now, and there have been Canadian conservative commentators and American conservative commentators talking about this.
00:20:01.480 The United States, they just passed a piece of legislation which tackles anti-Semitism.
00:20:07.160 Now, a lot of people are saying that instead of enforcing the laws that are already on the books to clear out these protests,
00:20:14.540 the government has now moved to actually tighten free speech rules around ability to criticize Israel, for example.
00:20:21.700 I want to get your opinions, both of you, on just the idea of adding in new legislation to combat anti-Semitism rather than just clearing out the protests with the additional laws in place.
00:20:35.040 William, why don't I start with you?
00:20:37.360 I mean, I think everybody has to be extremely careful when we start passing laws that further limit any of our fundamental freedoms.
00:20:46.320 I think what we're seeing in the case of the United States is a reaction to the apparent failure of institutions, of law enforcement, of universities to actually do something meaningful about these protests.
00:21:00.600 They're looking at these protesters getting away with everything they have been and saying, well, look, we don't think this is acceptable.
00:21:08.020 We want to strengthen the toolbox in order to be able to take more direct action on it.
00:21:12.560 I think there is a lot of risk when you start to say certain things fall under that restricted category or you take away fundamental freedoms of speech or assembly.
00:21:24.300 But I think it just reflects the desperation.
00:21:27.100 So many feel in saying, why can't we do something about this?
00:21:29.840 Why can't we clear out some of these encampments?
00:21:33.060 Why can't we stop people from making violent and hateful statements?
00:21:37.100 Why can't we arrest people for breaking the law?
00:21:40.900 So, you know, you're seeing those two forces come up against each other, a desire to have freedom of speech, freedom of protest, freedom of assembly and saying, but also we've crossed the line into far darker things and we need to take fundamental action against them.
00:21:53.840 Sue Ann, what do you think about this, this combating between existing laws and wanting to add more laws into place?
00:22:02.280 Well, I agree with William.
00:22:04.300 It's all a result of not handling the laws they have right now.
00:22:09.780 I'll give you an example.
00:22:11.180 In Toronto, for years and years and years, I've covered the Al-Quds protest. 0.98
00:22:15.540 That is virulently anti-Semitic.
00:22:18.260 They march down the streets of Toronto illegally.
00:22:21.360 They don't have a permit.
00:22:22.800 They're screaming basically death to Jews. 1.00
00:22:25.720 We have hate laws in Canada.
00:22:28.000 All the politicians have talked about clamping down on them, but they don't arrest them.
00:22:32.780 They don't invoke the hate laws.
00:22:34.520 I think the police have a really hard time understanding the hate laws and how to use them.
00:22:40.400 And I don't blame them entirely because the politicians send them mixed messages.
00:22:44.780 So, I mean, putting more legislation in place really to me is just smoke and mirrors.
00:22:50.280 Use the laws you have now.
00:22:53.560 Columbia is a perfect example.
00:22:55.200 They took two hours to clear out that encampment once they brought the police in.
00:23:01.420 Two hours.
00:23:02.620 These tough-talking kids, you know, fell like jello.
00:23:06.260 Their spines melted like jello.
00:23:08.620 They, you know, and for two weeks, they were threatening.
00:23:13.220 For two weeks, they were causing chaos and mayhem.
00:23:15.740 And I'm a believer of tough love, but our whole society has become like spines of jello.
00:23:23.180 We don't deal with crime.
00:23:26.660 We don't deal with drug dealing.
00:23:29.260 We don't deal with all the things that make our society, give us a quality of life.
00:23:35.160 And this is just another example of not invoking the laws they already have and using a little tough love.
00:23:43.060 I mean, like that president of Columbia, what is wrong with her? 0.86
00:23:47.100 She was so afraid to get rid of these people, even though it was playing out on the screens of all our televisions.
00:23:55.560 And it was making that Ivy League school look terrible.
00:24:01.740 Right.
00:24:02.400 And I wish there was a good transition for this, but there really isn't.
00:24:06.520 We have to move on to our next story here.
00:24:08.400 And for whatever reason, the liberals and the legacy media have refused to let go of this story, this Diagilon story, trying to somehow paint Pierre Pauly of the Conservative Party as though they're secretly collaborating with the dangerous far right.
00:24:24.220 Let's throw up another article about this story if we have it.
00:24:27.820 And if we there we go.
00:24:28.840 So Jeremy McKenzie, who we spoke about on this show last week, he, of course, is credited as being the founder of Diagilon.
00:24:36.300 In reality, Diagilon is not even actually a group.
00:24:39.760 We know that from the HateGate reporting, they don't meet the definition of a group, let alone a dangerous far right militia, as some have tried to paint them as.
00:24:49.340 But that has been the line from Anti-Hate Network.
00:24:52.440 He went on.
00:24:53.140 This story hasn't gone away.
00:24:54.060 And so he actually went on, I think it was with Viva Frye, and he released a statement saying that he is not connected with the Conservative Party.
00:25:03.520 He is not connected with Pierre Pauly of.
00:25:06.100 In fact, anyone who follows the rhetoric of the group and the people that watch Jeremy McKenzie know that he is by no means a fan of Pierre Pauly of.
00:25:14.100 In fact, it seems as though they seem to attack Pierre Pauly of as much, if not more, than they attack Justin Trudeau.
00:25:19.900 But, of course, that has not stopped the Liberals and the media from staying on this story relentlessly.
00:25:25.640 They seem desperate, William, to do whatever they can to try to paint Pierre Pauly of as someone he is clearly not.
00:25:32.460 You know, you're absolutely right.
00:25:34.340 And as far as I can tell, Diagilon is like three people.
00:25:38.140 It's three people who are very unhappy about a lot of different things.
00:25:42.400 And they seem equally as unhappy about Pierre Pauly of as they do about Justin Trudeau.
00:25:47.540 So why the Liberals seem to think that this three person, this trio of malcontents is somehow a fundamental threat to our civilization.
00:25:57.960 Well, they're going to have to explain it to me again.
00:26:00.360 I don't understand.
00:26:01.520 I would say what it's showing is, frankly, the desperation on the part of the Liberal government.
00:26:06.640 They put all of their effort into this 2024 budget, into the affordability and housing announcements that they touted for weeks leading up to the budget, and should be right now doing a full-court press selling to Canadians how their lives would be better off with this Liberal budget and, therefore, under the Liberal government.
00:26:28.380 The fact that they're not shows just how much of a flaw this budget has been for them.
00:26:34.340 And so now they're reverting to type.
00:26:36.360 Desperate accusations from Pierre Pauly of using the term wacko is the end of parliamentary democracy, to Diagilon is a secret Pierre Pauly of militia that's going to destroy Canada. 0.59
00:26:50.420 I haven't checked Twitter or X lately.
00:26:52.840 Maybe there's a new one.
00:26:54.200 But it's absurd.
00:26:55.180 And I think the fact that they aren't even denting Pierre's popularity reflects just how much Canadians have tuned out the Liberal government and Prime Minister Trudeau.
00:27:05.040 Suhan, what do you make of these desperate attempts, these desperate attacks against Pierre Pauly of?
00:27:10.460 Well, the polls say everything.
00:27:13.540 Pierre Pauly of is way up in the polls.
00:27:16.100 Desperate times call for desperate measures.
00:27:18.100 But it's actually quite funny because, you know, the last six months, for example, have not been kind to Justin Trudeau.
00:27:27.280 People are seeing through.
00:27:29.080 He did not.
00:27:29.640 He's not handled the Palestinian-Israeli conflict issue, the rise in anti-Semitism.
00:27:35.660 He said they were all peaceful protesters, drug issues.
00:27:39.320 Now we have premiers saying that there's been a huge, like, they don't agree with safe injection sites.
00:27:47.100 And this is all coming back to haunt him.
00:27:50.140 And, you know, they, you know the expression, if you throw enough spaghetti against the wall, you hope it will stick.
00:27:56.100 But nothing's sticking.
00:27:57.400 It's very greasy spaghetti.
00:27:58.780 So it keeps falling off the wall.
00:28:01.520 And I think we're going to see a lot more of this.
00:28:04.340 But it's just, it's, you know, kindergarten time, the way they talk.
00:28:09.880 I mean, the whole thing about throwing Pierre Pauly of out of parliament the other day was just, I mean, they're like little children.
00:28:19.220 Yeah.
00:28:19.780 I mean, this is part of a series of attacks they've tried to make work against Pierre Pauly of.
00:28:25.240 Obviously, none of it has worked.
00:28:26.620 Why don't we throw up the polling that our colleague, Cosmin Georgia, was able to pull from.
00:28:32.440 Basically, it's actually been following for since 2022, since June of 2022.
00:28:36.960 At the end here, you can see that this, from April 29th to the 24th, Pauly of polling has actually increased.
00:28:45.180 And these diagonal smears against Pauly of and the conservatives began right at that time.
00:28:50.480 So none of this is actually working for them.
00:28:53.200 And there's a couple of things going on here, which I find very interesting.
00:28:56.040 I made this point in my show that we released yesterday about how these attempts by the liberals to make Diaglons seem bigger and scarier and more important than they actually are, only really serve to do two things.
00:29:08.640 One, it actually will get more attention to a group they supposedly feel as though is some dangerous right-wing militia.
00:29:15.340 People are going to actually see this and look into it.
00:29:18.420 The other thing that I think is going on here is that they want Diaglons to be a bigger force than it is because they want to have the weapon to attack conservatives with. 0.98
00:29:27.960 They need to have their Canadian version of the Proud Boys, which they can use to silence conservatives and silence conservatives into submission.
00:29:36.300 It benefits them.
00:29:37.760 And I don't think it's going to work for them, but they're obviously, in my opinion, trying to do that.
00:29:41.700 They're trying to create something out of nothing here and create something that they can use for many years to attack conservatives over.
00:29:49.100 Let me know, William, as someone who's worked in this industry, in inside politics, if you think that I'm onto something here or if you think I'm a little off.
00:29:57.380 No.
00:29:57.980 I mean, they're trying to change the channel away from their own dismal performance and their own low popularity.
00:30:04.800 The problem is what they're trying to change the channel to is just so unconvincing.
00:30:09.520 You know, the idea that this Diaglons group is anything other than a small group of, you know, some would say crackpots, others would say malcontents, the grumpy people who they are, poses some sort of threat to Canada is absolutely ludicrous. 1.00
00:30:27.240 In the same way that, you know, when Alex Jones says he likes Pierre Poliver, suddenly that represents some sort of fundamental threat to Canada.
00:30:37.520 And I'll bet you most of the people in Canada would have to Google who Alex Jones is to have any idea of what the Liberals are talking about.
00:30:45.520 These are symptoms of a government that doesn't have a policy agenda that can deal with the issues and with the concerns that ordinary Canadians have.
00:30:56.020 They're offside on so many things, things like the carbon tax, which is widely unpopular.
00:31:01.660 They're, you know, they're soft on crime, soft on drug addiction agenda, which is really out of step with Canadians, especially those in cities and smaller towns.
00:31:11.800 And so instead of trying to present policy ideas, they're down to this, they're throwing the muck, and the muck they have is just so unconvincing that I don't think you're going to see any movement in the polls, except for an increase in conservative support and an ongoing decrease in liberal.
00:31:26.520 So, and this is despite the attempts by the trained media seals, who, you know, speak up and, and, and make the most ludicrous comments, I could think of a few names, but I won't, you know, single out anybody.
00:31:42.480 But, you know, that panel with Rosie Barton, they're just, it's just ridiculous that they, they go on and on and on and it's, people are tuning out this sort of thing.
00:31:54.860 They, they just, they know that Justin Trudeau is, is bailing these people out and they know that the CBC is, you know, over, over granted, getting too much money and, and they just don't believe these kinds of things anymore.
00:32:11.400 The average person, I should say.
00:32:13.660 I almost feel bad for the talking heads on the CBC who have to go with these liberal policy communications tactics.
00:32:20.640 They just, it must, it must be, it must be so difficult to try to make it, make news out of nothing like that.
00:32:26.840 All right, everyone.
00:32:27.840 Well, just remember everything you heard was off the record.
00:32:39.800 Well, a few hiccups in the, in the hosting of the show, but I think we managed to make through, make it through.
00:32:45.140 No, I think you did.
00:32:45.960 I think you did really well, actually.
00:32:47.760 You did great.
00:32:48.620 And Monty agrees.
00:32:51.300 He's come back to see how we finished.
00:32:54.040 So.
00:32:54.280 Oh, we, we could have given him the last word as a matter of fact.
00:32:57.280 He's, he's a valid conservative dachshund.
00:33:00.480 Thank you.