Off the Record - Make Canada Great Again？

00:00:00.000 So wait, so YouTube demonetized us for the Ben Shapiro thing?

00:00:04.460 Yes, exactly.

00:00:05.880 They, they, we, we put in a dispute, we followed the rules and it was, uh, I don't think it

00:00:10.860 was YouTube, but I think it was Ben Shapiro and Tom McDonald themselves who rejected us.

00:00:15.700 But do you know what?

00:00:16.440 It's funny because the internet right now, YouTube is filled with like Ben Shapiro reaction

00:00:20.740 videos.

00:00:21.200 And then Ben Shapiro even did a video reacting to his reaction videos.

00:00:24.580 So you would think that he would want people to promote his song and his music.

00:00:28.460 Like, but then when we did it, we get demonetized.

00:00:30.960 So unless it was just over the dancing, the dance moves might've just been, YouTube was

00:00:34.560 just offended by that.

00:00:36.440 It's totally possible.

00:00:37.940 It's like the, my pillow guy all over again when I had him on my show and we like, couldn't

00:00:41.420 post on YouTube for a week.

00:00:42.700 Well, it's not that bad at least.

00:00:44.500 Yeah.

00:00:44.900 But that was, didn't that happen like eight months later?

00:00:46.660 It was like Andrew interviews this guy and it was totally normal and totally fine.

00:00:49.640 And then like six months later, he does something controversial and they like go back and demonetize

00:00:53.980 our whole channel.

00:00:54.860 Yeah.

00:00:55.760 All right, guys, let's get this started.

00:00:58.140 So, all right.

00:01:05.340 So, Hey guys, thanks for being here.

00:01:08.060 Thanks everyone for tuning in.

00:01:09.440 This is off the record.

00:01:10.280 Our second episode.

00:01:11.480 The first one was last week.

00:01:12.360 I think it went pretty well.

00:01:13.480 So we're going to keep this format going and talk about the week's news from a little bit

00:01:18.700 more of a casual, relaxed perspective.

00:01:20.540 And I know we talked about this a lot last week, but I just wanted to talk about it, mention

00:01:26.260 it quickly here.

00:01:26.980 More fallout from Daniel Smith's policy, protecting kids from trans surgeries, basically from, from

00:01:34.120 being pushed into getting sex change operations while they're still children.

00:01:39.260 And it's just really been remarkable to see this whole thing unfold.

00:01:43.640 I was pleased that Pierre Polyev came out in the middle of the week and finally let us know what the

00:01:49.340 conservative position was on it because they've been relatively quiet up to this point.

00:01:53.120 I think he did take the right position and fall in the right place.

00:01:56.560 But I just like, I still can't believe the way that the media has handled this issue and

00:02:01.900 the way that some left-wing politicians, Justin Trudeau, Jagmeet Singh, have just been completely

00:02:06.660 hysterical.

00:02:07.700 I just don't understand why they think that talking about trans issues for children is

00:02:13.300 anything that's going to be popular.

00:02:15.000 Like as soon as, one of the things that Pierre Polyev did was that he, he got journalists to

00:02:20.260 explain exactly what policy they were talking about, because they would do this thing like,

00:02:23.960 why are you in favor of restricting healthcare to kids?

00:02:27.420 Which is propaganda.

00:02:28.860 That's a euphemism.

00:02:29.820 Like we're not talking about access to healthcare.

00:02:31.660 We're talking about elective surgeries for sex changes for little kids.

00:02:35.020 And, and, and once you make the journalists say that, then, then you, they've already lost

00:02:39.700 the argument.

00:02:40.260 Harrison, what's your position?

00:02:42.040 Well, yeah, the journalists were exposed a few days ago when one of the journalists asked

00:02:46.800 Pierre Polyev if he felt that only adults should take puberty blockers after they discussed

00:02:52.500 this, after they had this discussion.

00:02:53.960 And, and, you know, adults don't take puberty blockers because that's the whole point.

00:02:57.780 It exposes the fact that the, the, the, the base position of the media here is whatever

00:03:04.900 the conservatives are saying has to be wrong.

00:03:07.480 And whatever the left is saying has to be right.

00:03:10.120 And they can't even use their own judgment to realize what they're talking about is, is 0.99

00:03:13.700 completely ridiculous. 0.96

00:03:14.520 So I think Polyev is right. 0.89

00:03:15.900 It took him a bit too long to finally admit to it, but at least he did come out and admit

00:03:20.720 to it.

00:03:21.000 Well, one of the things that was really interesting that I learned this week was that taking testosterone

00:03:26.460 is actually illegal and, and human growth hormones are illegal in Canada.

00:03:31.340 So in some cases, it's not even possible to take it when you're an adult.

00:03:35.320 It's only, they only give it to children.

00:03:37.140 They don't, they don't even allow adults to take it.

00:03:39.600 I think if anything, it's just exposed this entire issue is like more Canadians are now 0.88

00:03:45.780 aware of the crazy stuff that's happening in our country to kids.

00:03:50.280 Like, like there was one clip that I found really amusing where a journalist was kind of

00:03:54.300 complaining to Danielle Smith about the onerousness of one of the policies, which was that every

00:03:59.260 time you talk about sex ed to children in your classroom, you have to write a report.

00:04:03.500 And the reporter was like, Hey, like, like, are they supposed to write a report like every

00:04:08.700 day?

00:04:09.420 Like that's, that's like so much work.

00:04:11.320 And Danielle was like, well, I'm sorry, but if they're talking about sex every single day 1.00

00:04:17.460 to students, I think we've discovered a good use case for this policy because they shouldn't

00:04:22.400 be doing that.

00:04:22.900 Obviously.

00:04:23.280 Yeah, there, there's a lot of gaslighting on this though.

00:04:26.160 Cause I remember like when, when Danielle Smith first came out and was talking about the, um,

00:04:30.640 in, in Alberta, the, uh, sex reassignment surgery component, you had people say that

00:04:35.380 doesn't happen.

00:04:36.020 She's, she's banning something that doesn't exist.

00:04:37.840 No one does that.

00:04:38.620 And literally news reports, uh, that came out yesterday, uh, national post, there were eight

00:04:44.820 transgender surgeries for minors in 2022, 2023.

00:04:49.100 So you may say, okay, eight, it's a small number, but still eight is, is, is above

00:04:53.020 zero.

00:04:53.840 So when you have people saying this doesn't happen, it's not there.

00:04:57.280 And then, oh, well, what do you know?

00:04:58.500 It's happening.

00:04:59.440 It undermines the entire argument.

00:05:01.760 Yeah.

00:05:02.200 This kind of reminds me of the whole like libs of TikTok thing.

00:05:04.520 Like people who there's a, there's a very popular account on Twitter who people who don't

00:05:08.460 know that the, the, the account, the person who runs the account literally just takes clips

00:05:12.660 of people on TikTok.

00:05:14.300 So people who have, you know, on their own decided to post videos, public videos on their,

00:05:20.080 on their, on their TikTok accounts.

00:05:21.680 And she just stitches them together and shows them to a different audience on, uh, on Twitter.

00:05:26.700 And, you know, the left is like, oh, this is a hate crime.

00:05:29.240 This is hate speech.

00:05:29.980 She's targeting trans people and she's putting them at risk. 1.00

00:05:32.060 It's like, it's like, no, no.

00:05:33.700 They're just speaking in their own words.

00:05:35.020 She's just giving them a platform, right?

00:05:36.940 She's just letting you know what they say, what they do.

00:05:39.480 And it's usually teachers, uh, they're talking about how they're confusing their children

00:05:43.280 and how they talk about sex in classrooms and how they're making kids, uh, you know,

00:05:47.200 reconsider whether they're boys or girls.

00:05:48.960 So just really the worst of the worst.

00:05:50.780 And, and it's happening.

00:05:51.920 We know what's happening because we see it in this, in this, through this TikTok account.

00:05:55.800 And then the same kind of gaslighting that you're talking about, Andrew, that, that they'll

00:05:58.880 be like, this doesn't happen.

00:06:00.400 No, no one's, no one's doing this to kids.

00:06:02.080 It's like, yeah, we see through you.

00:06:07.620 Yeah.

00:06:08.860 Sorry.

00:06:09.180 I was like waiting for a question mark.

00:06:11.640 And then I thought Harrison was going to say something.

00:06:13.080 I thought Harrison was like awkward live to date moments that we'll, uh, all just have

00:06:17.080 to hope the audience finds endearing instead of horribly unprofessional.

00:06:20.120 No, I thought Harrison was about to jump in with somebody.

00:06:22.200 Okay, good.

00:06:22.860 It was two on one.

00:06:23.740 Where were you, man?

00:06:25.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:06:25.960 Left you guys hanging there.

00:06:27.220 No, I mean, it's just say words. 1.00

00:06:29.280 It's, it's pathetic. 0.99

00:06:30.240 It's crazy. 1.00

00:06:30.820 The media were exposed for just basically taking whatever the left is, is saying and believing

00:06:36.000 that that is the only acceptable position to have.

00:06:38.120 I think Paul Yev is right when he says Justin Trudeau will eventually have to back down

00:06:42.180 from this because common sense and just what the majority of Canadians think isn't going

00:06:47.380 to stand up to this.

00:06:48.640 The majority of Canadians don't want children to take puberty blockers and do, you know,

00:06:53.020 basically cut their own body parts off.

00:06:55.740 It's not going to last.

00:06:56.960 So eventually the prime minister will likely have to, uh, step down from this position and

00:07:02.380 be asked the kind of questions that Pierre is being asked.

00:07:04.940 So double standards everywhere, but it's just the usual media playbook.

00:07:08.740 Yeah.

00:07:09.120 Although I will say that the media did their job this time because we didn't know where

00:07:11.840 Pierre stood.

00:07:12.560 And, and I do think that it took them pushing him and, and you can see there was one press

00:07:16.780 conference that he did.

00:07:17.480 And Justin Ling, who's like a left-wing reporter was asking him these annoying questions and

00:07:20.960 they were full of propaganda.

00:07:22.080 And it was like, why basically like, why do you hate trans kids?

00:07:24.880 And why won't you give them healthcare?

00:07:26.400 And you can see Pierre just kind of lost his patience.

00:07:28.520 And then that was like the moment where he first came out.

00:07:30.380 And then the next day he was in the House Commons, he was getting scrummed and the reporters

00:07:33.120 were doing their job.

00:07:33.700 Like, where do you stand?

00:07:34.320 What's your position?

00:07:34.920 What's your party position?

00:07:36.040 And he, he finally let them have it.

00:07:38.480 And it was great.

00:07:39.000 So, uh, good, good for Pierre for landing in the right place.

00:07:41.340 Okay.

00:07:41.520 I want to talk about this other story that happened this week, which was that we learned

00:07:44.520 that it was the prime minister's office.

00:07:46.760 It was prime minister Justin Trudeau's own office that invited that Nazi veteran to, uh, 0.71

00:07:52.480 reception and, and to, to be at the House of Commons.

00:07:55.460 So we, we all remember this very embarrassing, uh, moment that happened last September where

00:08:00.380 the entire House of Commons gave a standing ovation to a Nazi and basically interesting 0.90

00:08:05.580 component of the story.

00:08:06.540 I know you cover this on your show, Andrew, but, but just, just to, just repeat it.

00:08:10.520 It's like at the time when the, when this happened, the scandal came out, the government blamed

00:08:15.980 it entirely on house speaker, Anthony Rota.

00:08:18.820 He ended up resigning, but there were some interesting quotes from the time.

00:08:22.660 Uh, so we had liberal cabinet ministers insisting that this person, this house leader could not

00:08:28.380 stay on the job because what he had done was just so beyond the pale and so reprehensible.

00:08:31.700 So we had Karina Gold saying, I can't see based on the conversations I've had, how he can continue

00:08:37.620 to have the support of liberal members of parliament.

00:08:40.100 Then you had Melanie Jolie, the foreign minister saying what happened on Friday is completely

00:08:43.960 unacceptable.

00:08:44.940 It was an embarrassment to the House of Commons and Canadians. 0.92

00:08:47.480 So we had all of these liberals at the time saying that because of what Anthony Rota did,

00:08:52.800 because he invited this Nazi, it was all his fault. 0.81

00:08:54.960 It was a hundred percent him.

00:08:56.140 Nobody else knew what was happening.

00:08:57.740 This guy's to blame and he just can't be in cabinet.

00:09:00.600 He can't be in this position anymore.

00:09:02.260 Well, well, oops, because now we, now we know that it wasn't, it wasn't Anthony Rota.

00:09:07.220 He was just a fall guy.

00:09:08.300 He was just the guy that they decided to throw to the bus.

00:09:10.240 It was actually Justin Trudeau's office that sent the invitation.

00:09:13.640 So wouldn't all those things now apply to the prime minister, just using liberal logic

00:09:18.700 here, if, if what Anthony Rota did was so terrible, then now that we know it was actually

00:09:22.920 Justin Trudeau, why aren't they saying the same thing about Justin Trudeau?

00:09:27.260 Andrew, I'll, I'll let you take it from here.

00:09:29.180 Well, I should just clarify, it was a set, it was a separate invitation.

00:09:33.700 So Anthony Rota had invited him to the House of Commons.

00:09:36.580 Justin Trudeau invited him to this reception in Toronto where he, he didn't end up attending,

00:09:42.120 but he was going to be there and it was honoring Volodymyr Zelensky.

00:09:46.040 And, but, but the rules still apply.

00:09:47.840 I mean, the current framework you've just laid out there of, you know, guy who invites

00:09:52.220 Nazi to public event resigns is still something that should apply.

00:09:56.740 And, but, but we saw Trudeau doing that Trudeopian thing that he loves doing with this, which

00:10:01.080 is that Canada apologizes.

00:10:03.440 I apologize on behalf of Canadians as though you Harrison, you Candace, me, our, our video

00:10:09.400 guys, Jacob, Philly, like they were all the ones that did it, not just Trudeau.

00:10:14.220 And now we know it was not just Anthony Rota.

00:10:17.300 It was also a Justin Trudeau's office.

00:10:19.920 So, you know, yeah, maybe giving the apology on behalf of a larger group of people was warranted,

00:10:24.180 but the group of people was his office.

00:10:26.220 And it was amazing that now all of a sudden it's, oh, whoopsie, just an honest mistake.

00:10:30.540 When it was Anthony Rota, it was something that had to cost him his job.

00:10:34.220 When it's Justin Trudeau, it's, oh, well, you know, we just, you know, the name was given

00:10:37.520 to us on a list and we just, oh, you know, who among us hasn't?

00:10:41.860 Didn't he do this with blackface too? 1.00

00:10:43.280 Didn't he apologize on behalf of all Canadians when he was coming?

00:10:46.220 That was a learning opportunity for all of us.

00:10:47.960 So yeah, so the guy next door does blackface and we all have to learn more about race relations

00:10:53.380 in Canada.

00:10:54.120 Yeah.

00:10:54.780 Yeah, it was, it was a joint learning opportunity.

00:10:56.880 Harrison, what was your take on this?

00:10:58.960 Well, the level of incompetence from the prime minister's office from inside this Canadian

00:11:03.980 government is reaching such dangerous levels that it's becoming like a national security

00:11:08.280 issue here.

00:11:08.840 These people literally can't even understand very basic historical facts.

00:11:14.660 The reality that if you were fighting against the Soviets in World War II, you probably weren't

00:11:20.100 on the side of the allies.

00:11:21.660 This is very basic stuff.

00:11:23.600 And clearly some people in the PMO had no idea.

00:11:26.220 And it's not like these invitations, you're just a junior staffer writes this stuff out.

00:11:29.920 It doesn't go through other people.

00:11:32.060 Nobody caught this.

00:11:33.520 Everyone else did once it made it, once it was public.

00:11:35.500 Once the standing ovation had already been given to a Nazi, but no one had caught this 0.83

00:11:40.860 inside the PMO.

00:11:42.320 And of course they have to just blame the speaker.

00:11:45.060 They have to find a fall guy.

00:11:46.260 Good soldier, Anthony Rota, for just taking it and not exposing the PMO on his way out

00:11:50.280 for doing this themselves.

00:11:52.240 But seriously, this is unbelievable here. 0.89

00:11:55.020 The people inside the PMO are dangerously incompetent.

00:11:58.820 It's kind of freaking me out.

00:12:00.480 Well, I think it maybe says something about our history and the whole liberal mantra of

00:12:04.900 like, let's erase everything that happened like prior to, I don't know, 1965 or prior

00:12:10.280 to the Charter Rights and Freedoms.

00:12:11.460 Like Canada's history starts with Pierre Trudeau.

00:12:13.300 And let's not even learn about World War II or not even learn about Canada's contributions.

00:12:18.640 It's like, as soon as I heard the introduction in the House of Commons and it was like, this

00:12:23.820 guy fought against the Russians.

00:12:26.200 It's like, well, that obviously, to your point, Harrison, that should ring alarm bells.

00:12:29.400 The fact that the conservatives also stood up and applauded was deeply shameful, but

00:12:33.360 at least they could be forgiven for getting caught up in a moment, right?

00:12:35.880 You're at an event and you're not really paying attention and you're focused on something

00:12:39.660 else and everyone's standing.

00:12:40.880 And it's like, okay, this guy's a war veteran, you stand.

00:12:43.940 But it's like, you know, the people who are organizing this event, right?

00:12:47.240 Like it was a high profile thing.

00:12:49.300 They had Vladimir Zelensky.

00:12:50.700 This is like going with whole, the whole like Justin Trudeau, you know, fighting for Ukraine

00:12:55.520 is fighting for democracy, et cetera, et cetera.

00:12:57.680 Like you know that a lot of eyeballs looked this stuff over, a lot of thought went into

00:13:02.140 it.

00:13:02.840 And the fact that none of them know even basic, basic history about what happened during World

00:13:06.900 War II is pretty, pretty sad.

00:13:09.160 But Andrew, did you have any final thoughts on this one?

00:13:11.440 Yeah.

00:13:11.820 I mean, everyone got so into the whole, over the last 10, 15 years, everyone's a Nazi

00:13:17.760 thing.

00:13:18.640 And it's amazing how that everyone is a Nazi except for the literal Nazi. 0.72

00:13:23.360 The literal Nazi is not a Nazi, but everyone else is a Nazi. 0.90

00:13:25.940 That was the one imbalance I found when this thing first came up that I've been reminded

00:13:31.700 of the last couple of days.

00:13:32.820 Well, and, and I think this is not, this has not been a strong week for Justin Trudeau.

00:13:37.700 You saw that in the House of Commons.

00:13:39.680 I want to play this clip where Justin Trudeau, he's trying to go after Pierre Polyev, but

00:13:45.680 it really doesn't land.

00:13:47.560 And I think I could give you some credit, Harrison, because you've been talking for a

00:13:51.840 while about how Justin Trudeau is trying to run against Donald Trump and not Pierre

00:13:55.220 Polyev.

00:13:55.620 And this was sort of a weak attempt at that.

00:13:58.100 So let's play this clip here.

00:14:00.200 Speaker, what we hear from the leader of the opposition is under the previous conservative

00:14:06.820 government, everything was perfect.

00:14:08.560 And what he is proposing to do is to make Canada great again.

00:14:14.000 That is not what Canadians want.

00:14:16.540 He is pining for a nostalgia that, quite frankly, Canadians do not feel.

00:14:21.360 They remember.

00:14:22.820 Yeah.

00:14:23.360 So that just didn't really land.

00:14:24.340 I do like the part where he was trying to, he was trying to insult to the conservatives

00:14:28.560 by saying that they thought everything was perfect under Harper.

00:14:30.840 And then the conservative side all starts cheering, like, yeah, everything was great under Harper.

00:14:34.360 That's exactly right.

00:14:35.720 And then it was just also going well for Trudeau.

00:14:37.760 And then he tries to land this, like, make Canada great again.

00:14:41.780 Maka-ga. 0.94

00:14:43.740 It doesn't roll off the tongue like Maka-ga does. 1.00

00:14:45.840 Maka-ga. 0.94

00:14:46.400 It doesn't work so well.

00:14:47.560 Yeah.

00:14:48.200 And it just didn't land.

00:14:49.880 And I think that if most people just heard that sentence, you know, Pierre Polyev wants to

00:14:53.780 make Canada great again.

00:14:55.340 It's like, yeah, who doesn't?

00:14:56.920 Like, that's exactly right.

00:14:58.120 That's what he does want to do.

00:14:59.400 And the conservatives should have all, like, leapt up and started doing the standing ovation.

00:15:02.960 But it's like, you know, people don't, people aren't as obsessed with Donald Trump and this,

00:15:08.720 like, line, one line from, like, 10 years ago.

00:15:11.820 It was almost, I mean, nine years ago, 2015, that he first came up with that make America

00:15:16.280 great again.

00:15:16.960 It's like, you could just tell that Justin Trudeau is so inside this, like, bubble of political

00:15:22.480 mudslinging that he's obsessed with it and it's not working.

00:15:26.200 I don't know.

00:15:26.520 What do you think, Harrison?

00:15:27.400 Yeah, well, clearly they can't run against Pierre Polyev, they can't run against what

00:15:32.220 he says to Canadians because it works and it's working with the conservatives.

00:15:36.960 Where's the art of subtlety gone in politics these days, guys?

00:15:40.560 I mean, they can't, the liberals can't even be clever about their approach to try and make

00:15:44.880 Polyev to seem like some sort of Donald Trump, Donald Trump reincarnate in Canada. 0.55

00:15:50.680 They put him up on a split screen with Donald Trump and every other week they've got some

00:15:55.560 sort of split screen between what Polyev is saying, exactly how that's what Donald Trump

00:15:59.340 says, and now they're bringing out the make Canada great again line.

00:16:02.480 The reality is Canadians are pining for the nostalgia of a pre-Trudeau Canada.

00:16:07.860 Clearly, things are much worse after this guy's been in power for eight years.

00:16:12.100 That's not even a very controversial thing to say.

00:16:14.860 The majority of Canadians seem to agree on that.

00:16:17.360 I don't think this is going to land at all, but this is what they want to do.

00:16:20.800 They're going to, all throughout 2024, they're going to run off the U.S. election, basically.

00:16:27.020 They're going to try and make the conservatives out to be the Republicans, make Pierre out

00:16:30.420 to be Donald Trump, and, you know, I guess good luck to them.

00:16:33.440 It's not going to work, though.

00:16:35.360 Pierre Polyev is such a different political figure than Donald Trump.

00:16:38.780 They really don't have a lot of overlap.

00:16:40.720 Like, sure, yeah, they both believe in, like, I don't know, smaller government and, like,

00:16:44.640 it's just so trivial.

00:16:45.980 Like, when it comes to their actual personalities and where they stand, like, their age, everything

00:16:51.000 about them is so different.

00:16:52.480 It's just a weird comparison.

00:16:54.320 What's your take, Andrew?

00:16:55.780 Well, yeah, but it's just, like, politics and political media coverage are like that

00:17:00.360 in general.

00:17:00.880 It's the same reason that Justin Trudeau for the last, you know, decade has been, you

00:17:04.980 know, comparing and blaming everything and everyone on Harper.

00:17:08.020 It's, you know, the Harper years, the Harper years.

00:17:10.160 And at a certain point, it's like, you've been there for now nine years.

00:17:13.760 I think it's hard to blame Stephen Harper for your government's poor performance, but

00:17:18.960 it's either that or Trump.

00:17:20.560 They just cling to, like, the easiest comparison.

00:17:22.720 And I mean, the one thing that Trump has done, which is really annoying, he didn't do

00:17:26.820 it, but has been done around him, is that it's become the laziest, easiest comparison

00:17:31.600 for anyone.

00:17:32.440 It's like you're a stand-up comedian.

00:17:33.780 You go on stage.

00:17:34.460 You don't even have to tell a joke.

00:17:35.600 You just be like, Trump, am I right?

00:17:37.120 And everyone will just like, oh, yeah.

00:17:38.960 And, you know, journalists can just say, like, Trump.

00:17:41.100 Like, I once got into an argument with someone when I did my old radio show, I was defending

00:17:46.300 the zipper merge.

00:17:47.720 The zipper merge, which is a piece of urban planning where, you know, when a lane is closing,

00:17:53.100 it's actually most efficient to alternate, to use both lanes right up until the merge

00:17:57.880 point instead of, like, you know, two kilometers out getting into the lane that's continuing.

00:18:02.300 The reason I share that boring bit of trivia is because I was talking about this and why

00:18:06.040 studies have shown zipper merge is fast.

00:18:08.100 And someone said, you're just like Trump for saying that.

00:18:11.340 And I'm like, was Trump like a known fan of the zipper?

00:18:14.880 But like, but it's just, it's the only thing people know how to, it's the only insult people

00:18:19.180 know now.

00:18:20.540 Yeah, but I-

00:18:21.100 I want to say this as well, Candace.

00:18:22.640 The liberals always try to rail against the conservatives for importing American-style

00:18:26.540 politics, right?

00:18:27.900 That's their line against the conservatives before they even tried to-

00:18:30.160 And Hillary Clinton at their convention.

00:18:31.580 Yeah, exactly.

00:18:32.960 They're trying to make-

00:18:34.040 They try to blame the conservatives for importing American politics.

00:18:36.800 What could be more, what could be more American politics than making your opposition out to

00:18:41.580 be like the Republican front runner? 0.99

00:18:43.880 It's ridiculous. 0.97

00:18:45.040 Make a tax Canadian again. 0.98

00:18:46.660 That's my slogan.

00:18:47.780 Make a tax Canadian again. 0.54

00:18:49.320 We have to make-

00:18:49.840 Bring back Canadian arguments in politics. 0.55

00:18:52.120 Macca.

00:18:52.540 Macca works much better.

00:18:54.960 No, it's, it's, it's, it's really, no, there's some good points raised.

00:18:58.740 And yeah, the exact idea that any, any, anything bad you do is, oh, you're Trump.

00:19:04.580 But I just, I just don't think it's going to work.

00:19:06.280 I think that Trump was deeply unpopular, especially in Canada during the beginning part of his

00:19:10.660 first term, but I don't think that's there anymore.

00:19:13.200 I think that people kind of see through it.

00:19:15.260 They don't, they don't see Trump the same way.

00:19:17.060 He doesn't carry the same fear and hysteria that he did in 2016.

00:19:20.920 So again, if this is a liberal strategy, good luck, because it doesn't seem to land.

00:19:24.520 Okay.

00:19:24.660 I just want to quickly, quickly cover this story, which is the NDP wants to make it illegal

00:19:29.280 to say good things about Canada.

00:19:31.580 Seriously, seriously.

00:19:32.860 So Charlie Angus, an NDP, MP, long time member, tabled a private member's bill, Bill C-372,

00:19:40.920 known as the Fossil Fuel Advertising Act.

00:19:43.440 It was tabled earlier this week.

00:19:45.000 Basically, it will criminalize the promotion of fossil fuels.

00:19:48.040 You can go to jail, you can pay a fine up to $1.5 million, up to two years in jail for

00:19:53.660 promoting Canadian energy.

00:19:57.100 This is real.

00:19:58.660 This is real.

00:19:59.740 And, you know, it's not going to pass.

00:20:01.940 It's not going to go anywhere.

00:20:02.740 The NDP is sort of just like the fringe, weird character in Canadian politics.

00:20:08.300 They hold the balance of power, sure.

00:20:10.740 But, you know, this is the direction they're going.

00:20:13.120 These people truly hate free speech.

00:20:15.380 They don't want you to say nice things about Canada.

00:20:18.100 They don't want you to be proud of your country.

00:20:19.740 They don't like working class jobs. 1.00

00:20:21.840 They don't want cheap energy.

00:20:23.800 Like everything.

00:20:25.140 This just shows us so much about the Canadian left and where the NDP wants to take this country

00:20:30.700 if they were given any more power.

00:20:33.080 Andrew, any thoughts on this one?

00:20:34.720 Yeah, I mean, the basis for what he's doing is he's trying to say that, and it says it in

00:20:39.480 the legislation, in the preamble, that it's based on this climate crisis and that we have

00:20:44.540 to, he said in his remarks, start treating oil and gas the way we've treated big tobacco

00:20:48.500 companies.

00:20:48.980 He made the comparison between, you know, oil and gas saying that, you know, oil and

00:20:53.360 gas is good for the Canadian economy to, you know, what is it?

00:20:56.440 Bensman and Hedges, Rothman and Benson, Rothman, Hedges, whatever, you know, one of the tobacco

00:21:00.160 companies is saying that, oh, you know, tobacco smoking is good for your health.

00:21:03.860 So he's trying to use that precedent to say that the crisis caused by fossil fuels outweigh

00:21:10.300 their right to free speech.

00:21:11.880 But it's kind of amusing because I'm just imagining, like, I don't know, you know, Ontario

00:21:15.960 if we have them, but I'm sure in Alberta, there are these, you know, oil and gas weekly

00:21:19.880 word or whatever.

00:21:20.700 And I'm just imagining like going into the variety store and, you know, like with your

00:21:24.480 head down and being like, hi, I need the magazines in the back room, if you know what

00:21:27.820 I mean.

00:21:28.600 And the guy says, what are you looking for?

00:21:30.640 Playboy or oil and gas weekly?

00:21:32.040 And it's, you know, it's oil and gas weekly.

00:21:33.800 It's in the plastic cover and more like the cigarettes where, you know, you have to get them

00:21:37.420 to open the case and, you know, quickly close it.

00:21:39.640 And but it's insane because they're trying to stigmatize a sector that is the lifeblood

00:21:45.140 of the Canadian economy.

00:21:46.960 And it has been.

00:21:48.120 And every every industry is connected.

00:21:50.180 So even like, you know, fancy bankers and and marketing executives in cities like Vancouver

00:21:54.820 and Toronto that think they're above and removed from oil and gas.

00:21:57.060 It's like, no, no, it's all like like oil and gas is still the Canadian economy.

00:22:01.580 Yes, we're diversifying.

00:22:02.580 But but resources have always been Canada's core economic engine.

00:22:07.020 And just, yeah, it's it's it's wild.

00:22:10.560 Harrison, what's your take on this?

00:22:12.120 Well, this is insane.

00:22:12.780 I can only I'm thinking about what was going on in Alberta when their power grid basically

00:22:17.040 shut down.

00:22:17.920 And, you know, no one is allowed to go on social media and say that, oh, I really wish

00:22:21.920 we had natural gas to to stay warm in the coldest day of the winter.

00:22:26.120 Otherwise, they might get fine for saying something like that.

00:22:28.700 They might get fine for noticing that actually, you know, the wind and the and the solar isn't

00:22:33.880 keeping them warm in like minus 40 weather.

00:22:37.420 It's just absurd.

00:22:38.920 It's very NDP, though, right?

00:22:40.400 This is not I wish I was surprised when I read this story yesterday, but it was more it

00:22:45.080 was more just like, oh, Charlie Angus is speaking.

00:22:47.320 Oh, of course.

00:22:48.180 Of course, he's putting this this bill forward.

00:22:49.920 I would have been a little less surprised had it come from Elizabeth May.

00:22:53.440 But NDP, that's pretty close these days.

00:22:56.420 You're right.

00:22:57.260 And just like the core of their of their thinking is that they hate free speech.

00:23:01.540 They want to ban it.

00:23:02.640 They say that what they what this is.

00:23:04.800 This kind of takes me to the whole like post truth argument that we don't agree on the facts

00:23:10.260 anymore.

00:23:10.820 So what Charlie Angus is saying is that he is the arbiter of what is true.

00:23:15.600 And if you disagree with him, it is disinformation to the point where you should go to jail, which

00:23:22.240 you know, this is this is authoritarian.

00:23:24.660 This is authoritarianism.

00:23:25.840 It's not it's we're not talking about like a democratic parameter here.

00:23:31.140 You're talking about demonizing speech that you personally disagree with.

00:23:35.140 It's it's insane. 0.67

00:23:37.000 It's insane.

00:23:37.520 But I think we can just if this is the rule and this is what we're now allowed to do,

00:23:41.620 I think some conservative needs to introduce a private member's bill saying it is illegal

00:23:46.600 to promote the virtues of socialism in Canada.

00:23:49.640 Socialism has killed millions of people.

00:23:51.760 It's very harmful.

00:23:53.160 It's harmful to the economy.

00:23:54.380 It's harmful to people's lives.

00:23:56.080 So anyone who does that is endangering people.

00:23:58.940 So you can't promote the virtues of socialism.

00:24:01.680 The good news is the NDP will save money on its ad budget when they're not allowed to

00:24:04.840 run any.

00:24:05.700 They're not allowed to speak anymore because.

00:24:08.320 Yeah, sorry.

00:24:09.040 Charlie Angus.

00:24:09.640 It's like the it'll be like when Elizabeth May got pulled off stage by by at least the

00:24:14.180 rate.

00:24:14.460 We'll just have to pull Charlie Angus off stage like he's gone on too long at the Oscars,

00:24:18.920 like Marlon Brando's substitute.

00:24:21.720 There's a dated reference.

00:24:22.840 But yeah, we'll have to.

00:24:24.040 It'll just be great.

00:24:24.980 It'll sanitize political discourse in this country.

00:24:27.760 No, that would be some top level trolling if the conservatives were to actually do that. 0.90

00:24:31.300 I would I would applaud that just for trolling, not because I would actually want that

00:24:35.060 to be the case.

00:24:35.980 But speaking of socialism, let's try that transition.

00:24:38.160 Great segue.

00:24:39.780 I love it.

00:24:40.240 Speaking of socialism, everything in Ottawa speaking of socialism for the last few years,

00:24:45.800 the NDP have been on this sort of crusade against grocery stores in Canada and sort of

00:24:50.840 blaming the companies for the sort of consequences of Justin Trudeau's pandemic policies.

00:24:56.980 So the idea that they printed a lot of money, they gave away a lot of money during the pandemic

00:25:01.380 that led to inflation.

00:25:03.100 There was a whole bunch of supply chain issues when things were started to get back up again

00:25:06.960 because the government shut down the economy and then it took a while for the economy to

00:25:10.620 get caught up.

00:25:11.600 That whole time, rather than looking at the economic picture, the left, the NDP and some

00:25:19.280 liberals just accused the companies.

00:25:21.920 It was all the company's fault.

00:25:23.020 It was law, blah.

00:25:23.780 It was greed.

00:25:24.840 It was big grocers that are causing high food prices in Canada.

00:25:27.820 It's not the government's fault.

00:25:29.060 There's inflation.

00:25:29.800 It's law, blah, blah's fault.

00:25:31.040 So it was all corporate greed and profiteering.

00:25:33.700 It just seems like the Ottawa bubble just sort of really hates law, blah.

00:25:37.340 So it became a big scandal this week when Justin Trudeau alerted the country that Pierre

00:25:42.720 Polyev's advisor, Jenny Byrne, is actually lobbying for law, blah.

00:25:48.400 So let's play this clip of Justin Trudeau, you know, again, pointing the finger and basically

00:25:53.760 saying that it's all the Conservatives' fault now that your food prices are too high.

00:25:57.920 Pierre Polyev has been standing up for months now, pretending that he cares about high grocery

00:26:07.080 prices faced by Canadians.

00:26:09.480 And it turns out that his top advisor is working as a lobbyist for Loblaws.

00:26:18.340 I think Mr. Polyev owes some explanations to Canadians.

00:26:21.060 Okay, so Mr. Drama, Mr. Drama Queen, they're giving his, you know, explanation and his super

00:26:29.220 serious voice that it's all the Conservatives' fault that prices are too high.

00:26:33.840 Well, oops, Pierre Polyev came back at Justin Trudeau in question period with his own response.

00:26:40.360 So let's play that clip.

00:26:41.360 You're getting desperate if he has to blame Conservative campaign workers for the fact

00:26:49.680 that he raised food prices, especially when, Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister's new marketing

00:26:57.260 director, Max Veliket, did marketing for Loblaws for four years.

00:27:02.520 Don Guy, Don Guy, the Prime Minister's chief pollster, works for GT & Co., which collects

00:27:11.380 checks from Loblaws.

00:27:13.720 As does Dan Arnold, his other pollster, getting checks from Loblaws.

00:27:18.520 Are they the ones that forced him to quadruple the carbon tax on our family?

00:27:23.240 Gotta love the drama, the fake drama question period.

00:27:26.300 Like, oh my goodness, can you believe it, fellas?

00:27:28.760 They're all lobbying for Loblaws.

00:27:30.380 Like the Scooby-Doo mask moment of like, look behind this Galen Weston mask, it's the

00:27:35.380 Liberal pollster.

00:27:37.660 Yeah, so it turns out that a lot of political staffers have side hustles as lobbyists.

00:27:43.220 A lot of these guys work for companies and they also work for political parties.

00:27:47.480 And so just to go back to Justin Trudeau's like huge dramatic moment about how it was all

00:27:52.500 Pierre Polyev's consultant's fault that food prices are too high.

00:27:56.940 Yeah, that didn't land very well.

00:27:58.840 And then Andrew came in with his own scoop, which was that even the NDP, even the socialists

00:28:03.120 who have long been calling corporate greed the culprit.

00:28:07.060 Well, Andrew, I'll let you explain your own scoop.

00:28:09.120 Yeah, so Don Guy, who Pauly, I've mentioned, co-owns this GT & Co.

00:28:13.940 with Brian Topp, who's a longtime NDP advisor and chief of staff and whatnot.

00:28:18.960 And Brian Topp and Don Guy in business together.

00:28:21.460 Their business lobbies Loblaws as recently as last year.

00:28:25.880 They had an active lobbyist there.

00:28:29.060 So it's kind of rich here that you have these folks saying, oh, well, anyone who works for

00:28:35.040 Loblaws is the problem.

00:28:36.260 And I should just say, Jenny Byrne, who Justin Trudeau was talking about in his criticism

00:28:40.280 of Polyev, doesn't actually lobby for Loblaws.

00:28:43.400 She owns the firm who has lobbied and does lobby for Loblaws provincially in Ontario.

00:28:49.720 So it's the exact same as right here, where the owner of the company is the liberal and

00:28:55.020 NDP advisor.

00:28:56.320 And then that company is getting contracts.

00:28:58.480 So completely analogous, apples to apples comparison.

00:29:01.180 But of course, the criticism only works when it's directed towards the right.

00:29:05.760 I mean, I guess there's two things.

00:29:07.600 One, it just shows you the inside world of Ottawa and how basically insincere it all is,

00:29:11.940 because they'll sit there in their political posture.

00:29:13.820 But then when you look at, you know, you mentioned Galen Weston, Andrew, who's the owner, very,

00:29:18.600 very wealthy, self-made Canadian.

00:29:21.020 You know, he donates to the liberals.

00:29:22.880 He also donates to the conservatives.

00:29:24.420 Like you can play this game all day long.

00:29:26.680 You know, there is a lot of political connections and a lot of crony capitalism and corporatism

00:29:34.560 when it comes to these big Canadian corporations and government. 0.93

00:29:39.560 So it's just a silly game to go down, a silly hole to go down. 0.87

00:29:42.820 Harrison, what's your take? 0.93

00:29:44.240 Yeah, I think all Canadians will take from this is the fact that basically everyone in 0.70

00:29:48.840 Ottawa, when they're not a staffer, they're lobbying for a company.

00:29:52.380 And then when they're not lobbying for a company, they're creating good little political

00:29:55.160 one-liners to rail against the company that they were lobbying for.

00:29:58.560 And let's be honest about something as well.

00:30:00.720 The people in the House of Commons sitting behind Justin Trudeau and sitting behind Pierre

00:30:05.220 Pauliev making all those ridiculously dramatic faces and weird noises.

00:30:09.220 They also, many of them were lobbyists before entering politics as well.

00:30:13.440 So it's just the world of Ottawa.

00:30:15.660 No Canadians should be surprised. 1.00

00:30:17.040 And again, it's one of those weird, cheap political attacks where the people who came up

00:30:21.100 with this didn't have the foresight to realize that they were going to just have this rebounded

00:30:25.620 back on them.

00:30:26.940 Well, it is kind of interesting because, I mean, there's an interesting broader debate

00:30:31.800 about like why things are so expensive in Canada.

00:30:34.120 And you can look at like how our banking industry, our airline industry, our telecoms industry,

00:30:38.620 they're all heavily regulated.

00:30:40.420 And there's a lot of rules about who can participate in these markets.

00:30:43.940 And because of it, Canadians do pay much higher rates on a lot of things than Americans.

00:30:49.200 Everyone knows it's way cheaper to fly in the U.S. than it is to fly across Canada.

00:30:53.940 Like you get a flight from like L.A. to New York for like 70 bucks, right?

00:30:58.920 And if you're flying from Vancouver to Toronto, it's like $800.

00:31:02.560 Like it's just like a totally of a mark because they have so much more competition.

00:31:05.640 And I think that there is something about how the Canadian government regulates these

00:31:09.540 industries that causes, you know, this kind of like price.

00:31:13.500 It feels like price gouging, but it's really just a lack of competition.

00:31:17.180 But then at the same time, when it comes to this issue of grocery stores, it's like, it's

00:31:22.520 like, well, we try it.

00:31:24.540 Sometimes they do bring in competition.

00:31:26.300 It'll be like an American chain that tries to open.

00:31:28.140 We saw it with Target.

00:31:28.940 I know Target is more like a big box store, but they tried to come into the Canadian market

00:31:33.000 and they just couldn't make it work.

00:31:34.140 It was just too expensive because of our prices, because of everything else.

00:31:37.660 And it was interesting.

00:31:38.500 There was a committee meeting yesterday or earlier this week, Wednesday, and basically

00:31:43.400 they brought an expert to talk about why food pricing was so high.

00:31:46.360 And he basically said it's because of the carbon tax.

00:31:48.220 It's because of the taxes on truckers and the taxes on, you know, it's all passed through

00:31:53.720 back to the consumer.

00:31:55.380 And so there are different problems in the Canadian sort of pricing system.

00:32:00.320 But this whole theatrics of like, let's just blame the companies and then blame the lobbyists.

00:32:05.400 And then in terms of we're all lobbying, like it just misses a point.

00:32:07.980 It just shows like how Ottawa just sometimes it's such a bubble.

00:32:11.640 It looks bad on all parties, but they don't talk about the real issue.

00:32:14.700 They kind of bypass it and play these political games.

00:32:17.280 Andrew, what's your take?

00:32:19.020 Yeah, I think you're right about that.

00:32:20.520 And I think it's also very difficult.

00:32:22.720 Anytime someone, even with the carbon tax, tries to put a single cause on this, because

00:32:27.640 there are layered and overlapping phenomena.

00:32:30.180 You have the carbon tax, you have inflation, you have regulation, you have labor costs.

00:32:34.460 I mean, that was one of the big things for Target, why Target had such a difficult time

00:32:37.940 in Canada compared to the US, because the labor and supply chains were just not what they

00:32:43.480 were used to.

00:32:44.140 So Canadians that live near the border that had been to American Targets were going to

00:32:48.440 Canadian Target and being like, oh, this is like, this isn't what I thought Target

00:32:51.960 was.

00:32:52.340 So the company decided to pull out.

00:32:54.880 So I think with Loblaws, the liberal government has wanted to take away any of these factors

00:33:00.060 that it has responsibility for.

00:33:02.620 And I would include in that definitely the carbon tax to a large extent inflation.

00:33:06.080 And it's a lot easy to look at the rich guys that run the companies and say they're the

00:33:11.580 problem when that is a gross oversimplification.

00:33:15.660 And I would say if you were to list the top 10 reasons that grocery prices are high and

00:33:20.900 unaffordable for many Canadians, CEO salaries, I don't even think it's going to be on that

00:33:24.600 list.

00:33:26.220 Yeah, that's right.

00:33:26.960 It's an easy, it's an easy scapegoat.

00:33:29.000 And again, I think when it comes to the cost of living, it's not just in the food, it's

00:33:33.980 not just in the grocery stores that we see this issue, it's across the board.

00:33:37.400 And so Harrison, you had a great report looking at the housing crisis and the rise of these

00:33:42.860 slumlords in Toronto.

00:33:43.780 I couldn't believe some of these pictures that you were showing, man.

00:33:46.280 And so why don't you, why don't you walk us through the story?

00:33:49.020 Yeah.

00:33:49.220 So over the weekend, I was on, I was on X and Reddit.

00:33:52.760 I don't usually go on Reddit, but I was on there because I followed this subreddit called

00:33:55.880 Canada Housing 2.

00:33:57.220 And I started to see these unbelievable rent listings, these slumlord listings pop up,

00:34:03.160 pointing out just how unbelievable the state of the rental market is in this country, particularly

00:34:07.040 in Toronto and the GTA.

00:34:08.520 And I want to just highlight for you some of the listings that are available or that were

00:34:14.080 available.

00:34:14.480 They might've already been taken by people who are just desperate to put, put a roof

00:34:18.500 over their head and to do so without having to spend thousands of dollars.

00:34:22.360 But this is, this is utterly insane.

00:34:24.580 So we first saw this listing, this is for $500 a month.

00:34:29.360 Okay.

00:34:30.080 And this is in Scarborough, we believe.

00:34:32.120 Take a look at this guys.

00:34:33.240 This is what you can get for $500 a month.

00:34:35.600 That is smaller than a jail cell.

00:34:37.240 I've been told in the comments of the video, at least you get like a nice lamp and a bedside

00:34:41.800 table and you get some fresh air, but you don't have finished walls.

00:34:45.480 This is like in the back corner of some basement.

00:34:48.440 It's just terrible.

00:34:50.080 Um, and this is what's available for $500.

00:34:52.500 Put that up, put that up again, Jacob.

00:34:55.320 Is that blood on the comforter?

00:34:58.040 I think that's, I think that's just the artistic design of the artistic blood splatters.

00:35:04.600 All right.

00:35:04.980 A new phenomenon, uh, you know, concrete brick basement apartments.

00:35:09.120 It kind of fits with the, with the jail, with the jail house, uh, style.

00:35:13.440 I think if that, if that really were what it, what it is, but hold on, it just, it just

00:35:17.340 gets even worse here.

00:35:18.740 So let's put up this next listing that we have, because this is just, this is just ridiculous.

00:35:24.680 I think this next one is for $400.

00:35:27.680 It's in downtown.

00:35:29.360 I said it was downtown Toronto.

00:35:30.660 It's not really downtown Toronto, but again, compared to Scarborough and Brampton, this is

00:35:34.140 right in the heart of the city for $400.

00:35:36.680 You can live in the hallway on a mattress on the floor of a really dirty house.

00:35:41.760 Let's just call it what it is.

00:35:42.920 This is listed on the, on Facebook marketplace.

00:35:45.320 It might still be available right now.

00:35:47.000 This is where you, you can, you can rent this out to live on a mattress in a hallway. 0.89

00:35:52.300 It's just ridiculous.

00:35:53.400 The state of, uh, of the rental market here. 0.69

00:35:55.900 I want to show you one more because it is just, it's just absurd.

00:36:00.820 Now this one is an exclusive listing.

00:36:02.860 As I noted, it's exclusively for females who are renting this place out and you have to 1.00

00:36:08.660 share this bed and single room with a boy.

00:36:12.920 And on top of the $300 and sharing of the bed in the room with the boy.

00:36:17.000 You have to do the cooking for the, uh, for the landlord here.

00:36:20.960 I I'm not joking.

00:36:21.840 This made its way to blog to so you can take their word for it.

00:36:25.860 Um, it's also been listed on the slumlords of Canada, Reddit page.

00:36:29.400 And I just want to read the description of this listing for you.

00:36:32.020 So you get an idea of who, you know, who the tenant is or who the landlord might be room

00:36:36.960 available for girl and sharing with boy, good behavior.

00:36:40.660 Girl must know cooking. 1.00

00:36:41.920 Rest of the work boy will do.

00:36:43.960 Washroom is in sharing and kitchen also.

00:36:46.680 So $300 for, uh, for exclusively for a woman to rent out this apartment. 0.99

00:36:52.560 I have one more for you that I just found.

00:36:54.680 This is in Brampton.

00:36:55.800 A house in Brampton has apparently been multiple rooms in this house have been rented out.

00:37:00.880 People are now living inside of a car in the driveway of this Brampton house and urinating

00:37:07.060 on the side of the house.

00:37:07.940 So this is the state of what, of what we're working with here in Canada.

00:37:11.140 The slumlords have taken over and living conditions have plummeted all because of insane levels 1.00

00:37:17.460 of immigration to this country.

00:37:19.120 And of course, inflation that has made basically everything way too expensive.

00:37:24.480 It's just terrible.

00:37:25.500 I didn't know you had to pay to be a live-in chef now.

00:37:28.460 That was, uh, I thought it was like, I went, cause I always imagined, you know, when I,

00:37:32.420 you know, strike it big, I pay to have the live-in chef. 0.77

00:37:34.820 I didn't know I could get paid to have someone come into my home and cook for me every day.

00:37:39.120 That sounds like actually a pretty sweet deal.

00:37:40.760 Well, I wonder who ends up not for the person living there.

00:37:42.760 No, if the chef has to pay for the food, then it's not really, you know, it's more than $300

00:37:46.440 a month and you're really, you're really, you really got a bad deal.

00:37:50.420 I mean, this is sad.

00:37:51.640 It's, it's unbelievable what people are willing to do and to live in.

00:37:56.520 And look, I mean, I think when you're young, you're willing to, you know, live in pretty

00:38:00.820 rough living conditions.

00:38:02.200 I know a lot of guys that go up to camps and they live in pretty brutal conditions for

00:38:06.460 a couple of weeks so that they can make some money and come back in.

00:38:09.500 But, but that's not even what this is, right?

00:38:11.220 This is like, they've allowed so many international students to come into the country.

00:38:15.520 A lot of them don't have any option for housing.

00:38:17.800 That's what they do.

00:38:18.600 It's like, oh, let's just get like 20 guys to live in a basement.

00:38:21.120 I mean, I can't imagine that first one you showed it looked like a jailhouse.

00:38:24.180 I can't imagine what the rest of the basement looks like.

00:38:26.380 Is it just like, is it just like a dorm room or like a, like a hostel full of beds on the

00:38:31.180 floor and an unfinished basement?

00:38:32.560 Like that's, that's, that's pretty rough.

00:38:34.760 And I, I, I'm usually not very kind.

00:38:37.160 I, there's this trend that I really don't like, uh, which is like a bunch of, you know,

00:38:41.400 younger people complaining that they can't buy a house and blaming it on the prime

00:38:45.000 minister.

00:38:45.300 It's like, you know what?

00:38:47.080 Uh, yeah, it's tough and you got to save up and you got to make sacrifices, but let's

00:38:51.700 not just sit here and like blame our prime minister.

00:38:53.660 If you personally are like in your thirties and you can't afford to buy a house, like

00:38:57.940 you got to own some of that.

00:38:59.580 Some of that is personal responsibility.

00:39:01.100 Like you need to save up.

00:39:02.840 You need to make good decisions, like live with roommates and save your paychecks until

00:39:07.020 you can afford something.

00:39:08.120 And, and, and I get the fact that down payments are like super crazy now.

00:39:11.100 I was like, well, don't buy a house in Toronto, like go move somewhere else.

00:39:14.340 Go live in a different part of the country.

00:39:16.200 Go live in Saskatchewan.

00:39:17.220 It's still relatively cheaper.

00:39:18.520 Go live in Edmonton.

00:39:19.660 You can, you can still, you know, afford to buy something a little bit better there

00:39:24.000 or, or other parts of the country.

00:39:25.080 But, but then when, when you, when you see the situation, you just think about the

00:39:28.160 people who are forced into that situation and that that's the only option they have.

00:39:32.340 It's like, this is a problem.

00:39:34.220 And I do think a lot of it is immigration related.

00:39:36.940 Andrew, what's your take?

00:39:38.480 Well, I think a lot of it is immigration related.

00:39:40.800 I think there is something to, I, I, I don't know if I, I think some people who are in their

00:39:45.740 thirties that got a later start in career and life, I I'm, I'm very sympathetic to them

00:39:51.380 not being able to do it because for a lot of people to have a single family home, if they

00:39:56.100 are single and have a single income, it is incredibly difficult.

00:39:59.460 I will say though, I thought there was a lot of truth to the point that people are a lot

00:40:04.620 too picky, a lot more picky than they should be on location.

00:40:07.680 I think a lot of people, like I I've heard stories and I've known people that have made

00:40:11.480 the decision to move, you know, hours and hours outside of the cities because they can

00:40:15.740 get a start there.

00:40:16.620 And in the remote work economy for a lot of people, not for, not for everyone, um, you

00:40:21.120 can do it.

00:40:21.560 So I think, I think if you're stuck on this fantasy of living in Toronto or Vancouver, just

00:40:26.480 because you want to be, and not for any professional or significant reason, I think you should probably

00:40:34.040 try to shake that because that's the only way you'll be able to do it now.

00:40:37.760 Yeah, I think that's right.

00:40:38.780 Like I, I can kind of relate to it too.

00:40:40.420 Like, look, I grew up in Vancouver in a neighborhood where I think the average single family home

00:40:45.220 is now like $3 million.

00:40:46.760 And it was not like that when I was growing up.

00:40:48.700 Like it was, it was, it was a fine middle-class neighborhood, but it wasn't to the extent it

00:40:52.800 was, but even, you know, by the time I graduated high school and left university, which we're

00:40:57.380 now talking about, you know, like 15 years ago, 20 years ago, there was no way, there

00:41:01.180 was no chance that I would be able to buy a place in that neighborhood.

00:41:04.240 And it's kind of sad because Vancouver has gone through this like a long time ago, you

00:41:08.440 know, 15, 20, 25 years ago.

00:41:10.780 And, and, and, and I always thought Vancouver was like an anomaly.

00:41:13.680 And then it's like, it's almost like that phenomenon that happened in Vancouver, uh, caught

00:41:18.580 up to the rest of the country and it's now happening in like so many other cities.

00:41:21.720 And so it does show, I think that something's fundamentally wrong.

00:41:24.080 And I think in Vancouver, it was very clearly driven by immigration, by wealthy foreign buyers,

00:41:30.480 Chinese buyers coming in and just liking that neighborhood and buying out all the houses 1.00

00:41:34.260 and kind of like displacing the people who had lived there prior.

00:41:38.320 So there's definitely structural issues.

00:41:40.500 When I say I'm annoyed by this whole trend, because I just, I just think it's like a simplistic

00:41:45.400 attitude for conservatives to say like, I can't afford a house and it's the government's

00:41:49.720 fault.

00:41:50.000 It's like, it's like, come on, take some, take some responsibility, man.

00:41:53.560 But I, I hear, I hear your point, Andrew Harrison, any, any final thoughts on this?

00:41:57.560 Yeah.

00:41:57.820 I mean, one of the questions that I asked at the beginning of my show on this topic was

00:42:01.740 the people who were responsible for bringing in all of these people into our country and 0.99

00:42:07.240 flooding the country and these, and these pockets of our population where houses are now

00:42:11.740 unaffordable knew full well, what was going to happen, what the consequences were going

00:42:16.180 to be. 0.96

00:42:16.480 These are not dumb people. 0.99

00:42:17.500 They knew it was going to happen. 0.88

00:42:18.760 So it makes you wonder if it wasn't obviously done for Canadians, even though the government's

00:42:23.920 responsibility is to make sure that Canadians are taken care of first and that they can 0.63

00:42:28.860 hopefully live in the cities they grew up in.

00:42:30.680 So if it wasn't done for Canadians, who was it done for? 0.58

00:42:33.240 And I think that that is a question that needs to be asked.

00:42:35.940 It looks like it was done for corporations who could benefit on a, on a massive amount of,

00:42:39.660 of cheap available labor.

00:42:40.920 And also for these colleges to benefit from insane amounts of, of students paying three

00:42:45.320 to four times the tuition fees.

00:42:47.000 I think there is something to be said about, you know, people having to be realistic and

00:42:50.860 people having to be less picky about location.

00:42:52.840 But the reality is, I don't think it's fair to say to Canadians who are now looking at this

00:42:57.660 country and realizing that the life that they were expecting when they were very young,

00:43:01.840 that's totally out of reach is their fault.

00:43:04.720 And it's not the fault of people who made these decisions in the first place.

00:43:08.200 Um, I think there's a lot of, a lot of, of frustration and anger that is, is coming

00:43:14.360 from this situation that the government is not paying attention to.

00:43:17.920 I think the opposition doesn't want to accept the kind of anger that's actually coming from

00:43:21.940 young people in this country, but it is there and it's growing.

00:43:25.140 And this is exactly why.

00:43:27.020 Well, uh, you pointed this out because, uh, Pierre Paglia put out a really informative,

00:43:31.800 great video about the housing problem in Canada.

00:43:34.120 And I think he made a lot of really, really strong points in that video, but there was

00:43:38.260 one sort of like elephant in the room that he just refused to acknowledge, which is immigration.

00:43:41.900 I don't think he mentioned it once.

00:43:43.440 And you, you made a point on your show of going through the comment section.

00:43:46.160 Like people notice, people know that there is this problem when it comes to mass, mass

00:43:52.020 immigration, Canada has the highest immigration levels, uh, I think in the world, definitely

00:43:56.200 in the G, in the G7.

00:43:57.840 And that is having an impact and you got to talk about it.

00:44:00.660 You have to find a way to talk about it because it's an issue, uh, that's important.

00:44:04.760 Andrew, I'll give you the last word to you.

00:44:06.920 No, I don't really have one.

00:44:08.100 I mean, I, I asked Pierre Paglia when I did my year end interview with him about that.

00:44:11.900 And he did admit, yes, immigration, it's just raw numbers has an effect, but still wouldn't

00:44:17.440 go to the point of giving that number of, of how many is enough of what the system can

00:44:23.880 sustain.

00:44:24.340 So, uh, where he left, it was saying that yes, we'll tie immigration to housing.

00:44:29.240 So if you read between the lines, he is saying, yes, I mean, theoretically we could reduce

00:44:33.820 that number, but he, he still, for reasons we've all talked about on our respective shows,

00:44:37.740 doesn't want to come out and say that in black and white terms.

00:44:40.820 Okay.

00:44:41.240 I said last word to you, but I just want to make one point of that because I made me think

00:44:45.040 of your interview and one of the things that I didn't like about what Polly have did was 0.72

00:44:48.160 that it was a purely economic math based equation.

00:44:50.960 Like to him, it was just about the math and nothing else.

00:44:53.680 And it's like, at some point you have to recognize that there is a deeper cultural, uh, issue here

00:44:59.240 that, that, that, that many Canadians are concerned with, like whether people are being integrated,

00:45:03.840 whether it's a good idea for our communities, whether this is having a good effect on things

00:45:07.420 like cost of living, how it's influencing people in your generation, Harrison, and people just

00:45:11.920 coming out of school and people just trying to like, like there are,

00:45:14.820 you know, more broad, uh, questions that need to be answered.

00:45:18.200 And I, I, I mean, maybe, maybe libertarians like these kinds of answers, but when he just

00:45:22.640 said it was like purely numbers, it was just a hundred percent on math and nothing else.

00:45:26.740 I, that, that my heart sank a little bit.

00:45:28.580 I was, I wasn't, I wasn't.

00:45:30.300 For the last time, Candace, libertarians can care about values too. 0.98

00:45:35.140 Every, every time you're just like staring daggers into my soul when you crap on libertarians.

00:45:39.420 You know, I was, I, I consider myself libertarian for a long time and, and I, and when it comes

00:45:44.800 to government spending, a lot of things are libertarians still, but I do think these deeper

00:45:49.240 values questions matter, Andrew, they matter.

00:45:51.800 All right.

00:45:52.360 All right.

00:45:52.920 I think we'll cut it off there.

00:45:53.920 Thanks so much everyone for tuning in.

00:45:55.540 And, and just as a reminder, remember that the show is called off the record.

00:45:58.180 So everything you just heard was off the record.

00:46:06.340 Oh, we didn't talk about the, uh, the guy that wanted me to do more rap dancing.

00:46:10.060 So we'll have to bring back the dance moves in the next show. 0.63

00:46:12.660 I was going to say, Andrew, you ditched the wine for what is that a coffee?

00:46:16.160 Yeah.

00:46:16.520 I, I, I was running behind this morning.

00:46:18.280 So I just, I should have put some Baileys in it just to keep on brand.

00:46:21.100 Yeah.

00:46:22.860 Yeah.

00:46:23.400 Yeah.

00:46:23.760 I, well, I was like, you know, let's keep it to 45 minutes.

00:46:26.840 And, and so I totally forgot about the comments.

00:46:28.940 Well, I promise we'll do comments next week.

00:46:30.900 That's okay.

00:46:31.580 That's okay.

00:46:32.040 They, they don't know.

00:46:32.740 Well, unless this is in the banter reel, then they'll know.

00:46:34.820 But other than that, they didn't know.

00:46:37.100 Okay.

00:46:38.060 Right on.

00:46:38.520 Yeah.

00:46:38.780 I think we should keep it in the banter wheel.

Off the Record - February 09, 2024

Make Canada Great Again？

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