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- May 17, 2024
Taxpayers on hook for “climate disinformation” rap
Episode Stats
Length
43 minutes
Words per Minute
200.35222
Word Count
8,760
Sentence Count
334
Misogynist Sentences
9
Hate Speech Sentences
38
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I used to be unable to smile in photos because it would just look so like weird.
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I'd be like Chandler.
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Well, that's a dated.
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You're too young for friends, both of you, but it's like, it would be like Chandler and
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friends.
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I'd be like, I've seen the whole series, so I don't know.
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Oh, okay.
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There you go.
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Yeah.
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You watch, watch friends, Rachel.
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I have seen it.
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Yes.
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And speaking of even older sitcoms, I'm like almost done Seinfeld.
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So yeah.
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Rachel's not engaging in the pre-show banter.
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She looks very aloof right now.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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I've had a very, very stressful couple of days.
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All right.
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Well, I guess let's get things started then.
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Hello and welcome to you all.
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Happy Friday.
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We are heading into the long weekend, so it's not just a regular old Friday.
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It is a Friday that hopefully precedes a few days of deserved and in this climate needed
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R&R.
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It is my pleasure to be with you again once on off the, wait, no, my pleasure to be with
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you once again.
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I was like speaking like Yoda there.
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Pleasure, pleasure with you are it is, but it is off the record.
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I am Andrew Lawton and joining me are Isaac Lamoureux and Rachel Emanuel.
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Good to have you both on.
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You were on last week, but I wasn't.
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So this is the first time for this particular trio.
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Welcome.
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Not only are we both, I'm sure, happy to be back, but I think we're also pretty relieved
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that you're back to hosting again, Andrew.
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I was away last week.
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I didn't watch it.
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Was it like a train wreck?
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You don't need to go back and watch it.
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I don't think you're missing anything.
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I'm surprised that I was invited back.
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You've successfully promoted it better than, probably better than our social media desk
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did, but I am here.
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You guys are both our token Albertans.
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How have things been in my, one of my favorite, well, I don't want to pick favorites now because
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then the Ontarians are going to say a game of me, but a province that I love.
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How are things over there?
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Things here are hectic as always.
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If I could be so bold as to tease my show on Saturday, there's been some interesting
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developments with the COVID-19 vaccine, the United Conservative Party board has actually
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decided to take a stand against the COVID-19 vaccine and they're urging the premier to
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amend the policy so that it's not being recommended for kids anymore, which I think is a, is a
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pretty big stance that they're taking and it's a pretty interesting development.
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So I'll be covering that on Saturday.
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If any of you viewers want to head over to my show Saturday afternoon to take a look at
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that.
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All right.
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An unscheduled PSA for the, for the Alberta roundup.
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Isaac, how are things in your corner of the world province?
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Yeah.
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I don't know how it's going in Calgary there, Rachel, but it's been a lot of
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pouring rain all day here in Edmonton, which is good, especially with the fires going on
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in Fort McMurray, though it's obviously further from Edmonton, but yeah, the rain is a welcome
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sign for the Alberta wildfires that have been plaguing the province.
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And despite all of them, except one being man-made, I'm glad you mentioned the fires.
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I should have pulled the clip, but Justin Trudeau earlier was saying like Canada is burning
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and Pierre Paulyev is happy with Canada burning because he supports the carbon tax being repealed.
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And I'm like, wow, you're, um, you're just like taking it right up to like drama teacher
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grade, uh, grade 11 there.
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Uh, in any event, the climate change debate in Canada brings us all sorts of fun things.
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Uh, the most cringeworthy of them all.
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No, it's not the carbon tax.
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It's not the plastic straw ban.
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Uh, it's not even the fact that the government spent $3 million sending a delegation to Dubai
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for the COP28 climate summit.
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It was specifically what happened at the Canada pavilion at the climate summit for the UN COP28
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in Dubai.
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This was $1.3 million that was spent on hosting a Canada pavilion to showcase Canada.
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And you think, okay, what are we going to do to show Canada off to the world?
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Are we going to serve them poutine?
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Are we going to put up a hockey game?
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Are we going to show a reel of all the great comedians from Canada, show them some John Candy
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and some Dan Aykroyd, or are we going to showcase the best of Canadian music?
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They chose that option.
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All right, I don't even know what it says.
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Climate disinformation, get that immunization.
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The vaccine for bad meme infiltration.
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Climate misinformation, it leads to polarization, which leads to radical conspiracy ideation.
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Simultaneous translation between conspiracy theories and violent means of change embracement.
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Economic incentives or ideological basis.
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It doesn't matter, because either way, it's still disinformation.
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Climate change is upon us, and emissions are like a bomb.
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As the wave of increasing heat carries on and on, the wave of disinformation keeps on getting
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shared online.
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Trapped by the lab of Marie-Yves Carignan from Université Sherbrooke.
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According to her book, the anti-government left and right now share a yearbook.
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And when it comes to floods, droughts, and wildfires, even today's environmentalists can
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be climate deniers.
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Those are the yoga QAnon people up in the mix.
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Marie-Yves tracks the patterns with the acronym FLICK.
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False X-words, fallacious logic, unrealistic expectations.
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Cherry-picking and conspiracy theory ideation.
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That's FLICK.
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Advertisers can help us find a fix.
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The climate host is exposed.
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Brought to you by Wix.
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From the false promotion of bad pollutions and tricks.
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To the outright denialism saying it doesn't exist.
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There's a reason for the IPCC.
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It doesn't make assumptions.
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Make your advertising conscious.
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Take it from Jake Dubbins.
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Yes, we need free speech to get the facts in the fight.
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But like Jake said, ad revenue is not a human right.
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You know the exchange rate is bad.
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That was 50 Canadian cent right there.
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50 Canadian cent is worth a lot less than regular old 50 cent.
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Boy, that was...
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I mean, I don't want to say it cost us $1.3 million,
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but it certainly cost a fair bit.
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We flew Baba Brinkman, the Canadian rapper,
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and coincidentally son of a Liberal member of Parliament.
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So this is if you're a Liberal MP
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and you need to get your son employed,
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you can say just like make a rap so bad
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that Eminem will just like, you know,
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want to just cross the border and replace him perhaps.
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That, yeah, I don't know which of you is the rap aficionado.
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I'm, no one has ever looked at me and said that I'm, you know, hip.
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But just what the hell was that?
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I think Isaac's probably the one to go to here.
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You know, I'm a little too old for rap music, Isaac.
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Take it away.
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Yeah, honestly, just at the start of his set, let's call it,
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he said, I don't even know the words,
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but then he seemed pretty well versed
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in the kind of the flow of the song.
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So I was like, does this guy really not know the words?
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Because I feel like if I were just reading the screen
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and listening to the beat for the first time
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and tried to rap that song,
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I probably wouldn't have done nearly as good of a job as him,
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like from the actual flow perspective.
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But yeah, I mean, Canada does have some pretty big name rappers,
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notably Drake, The Weeknd, I guess he's kind of a rapper.
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Yeah, that was the weekday we just saw.
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That was the weekday.
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And yeah, he didn't get to the Stephen Guibault part,
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but he gives Stephen Guibault a special shout out.
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So that's nice.
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Yeah, it was funny.
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I think I saw yesterday on X,
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Guibault was tweeting about the Fort Mac fires
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and of course climate change.
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And I'm like, I'm pretty sure all those fires were man-made,
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but I don't see why we're attributing that to climate change.
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That kind of applies to what he was rapping about just now
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in the song, climate misinformation.
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Is that not the same thing?
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Stephen Guibault is funnier than Johnny Carson.
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He doesn't tell us that the fires were actually arson.
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I don't know.
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I'm keeping my day job.
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Rachel, what's your arts correspondent take on this?
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You know, I don't really even want to make fun of him
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because you can really tell he gave that his all.
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Like he really-
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It wasn't as bad as I expected it to be.
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For a white guy, it wasn't half bad.
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And you could tell he was 100% into it.
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He obviously spent a lot of time memorizing those words.
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He found a rhyme for University of Sherbrooke.
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Like that's never been done in the history of music.
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He really gave it his all.
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And while I don't really want to make fun of him
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because it just feels a bit mean
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because of just how hard he tried,
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I'm going to because ultimately it was my tax dollars
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that paid for it.
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And it was a waste of money
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and it was still fairly stupid.
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But, you know, we were just talking about Justin Trudeau
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and how he was, you know, he's always so theatrical
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with the things he says about Pierre Polyev.
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And I think when we're looking at the Liberal Party
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as a whole, they're just really,
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they seem stuck in high school.
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This is something that I would have done in high school.
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Like I remember we, like my friends and I
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would come up with raps
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and we would do them in class.
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And, you know, we thought we were really cool and clever
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and the rest of the class enjoyed it.
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But we're well beyond that now.
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The Liberals really seem, you know,
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stuck in their youth, unable to grow up.
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So that's pretty much what we're seeing here.
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I looked him up on Wikipedia
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because I'm like, if we're going to do this,
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let's go all in.
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And apparently he's made like a name for himself
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doing science rap and environment and ecology rap,
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which to be honest,
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he's like the greatest capitalist known to mankind
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because he knows that all of these like UN climate summits
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around the world want to be hip and cool.
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And they're like, well, we have a guy
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who will rap about the climate.
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He'll rap about the IPCC.
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Why wouldn't we want to do that?
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That's great.
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Like, so he's done something so ridiculous
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that he's guaranteed he's the only person
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in the world that can do it,
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which to which I say,
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very, very much rewarding him
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for the entrepreneurialism.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes I regret that I'm someone
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who has such strong morals
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and would just despise taking government money
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for frivolous reasons.
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Because think about how wealthy
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we could all be otherwise.
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Doesn't take much.
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Yeah.
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So that video,
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so I only learned about this,
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just to give the context,
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that happened in December,
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November, December.
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And I only learned about it
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because there was an order paper question
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that I think Dan Mazur,
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the liberal or the conservative MP
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had filed to get the costs
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for the Dubai delegation,
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for the Canadian delegation to Dubai.
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And the Canadian Taxpayers Federation
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poured through this as well.
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And they found that we had
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at the Canada Pavilion this rap.
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And the guy uploaded it himself.
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Like he was very proud of this.
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And then I looked into it.
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He's founded a company called Event Rap,
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a custom rap agency
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featuring a roster of independent hip-hop artists
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who write and perform original works
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for live events.
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So we should get like at True North Nation,
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we should get some like independent media rap.
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I don't know what rhymes with defund the CBC.
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Give me, Isaac, say something
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and I'll try and think of this.
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You want me to find a rhyme for defund the CBC?
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Well, you can.
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And I was just saying more talk
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while I try to come up with one.
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She's hot like double D's.
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Oh my God.
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What?
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That's not the road I would have gone.
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Yeah, that's, yeah.
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Rachel's getting our clean tag
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taken away more and more.
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I can say it.
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I can say it.
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Defund the CBC.
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It's paid for by you and me.
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Oh, that's good.
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I mean, I'm hearing a bit of like Jackson 5 though.
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Like ABC, defund the CBC.
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Yeah, what rhymes with Rosie Barton?
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They don't deserve no money free.
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Okay, wait.
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Okay, we got to find rhymes for Mansbridge,
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rhymes for Rosie Barton.
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You know, when we defund the CBC,
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we'll be carton away their property,
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including Rosie.
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But no, that sounded weird.
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This is why we need to leave it to the pros
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like Mr. Baba Brinkman.
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Okay.
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$1.3 million for the Canada Pavilion.
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Do you feel that Canada has been sufficiently sold
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on the world stage now?
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Sorry, I'm looking up words on rhyme dictionary.
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Isaac, take it away.
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I like the, by the way,
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I love that we're doing the preparation for the show
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midway through the show.
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None of us knew we were going to go down this road
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enough to think ahead of time
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of like maybe plan something out.
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Next week we'll have to come prepared
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with like a full wrap,
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a full True North wrap.
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Yeah, I started preparing about three minutes
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before the show
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because I had to try on a bunch of different shows.
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All right.
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So if you're in the comments
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and you want to come up with your
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defund the CBC rhymes,
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I think actually Isaac,
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I think was the best at this so far
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because he actually came up with something.
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I'm still like trying to like find a rhyme
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for Peter Mansbridge.
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You know, there's not a lot of results on here
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for Barton.
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Well, Barton, like carton, like milk.
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Oh, I got it.
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I got it.
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Let's get rid of Rosemary Barton.
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Around the truth,
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she's always darting.
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Oh, okay.
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I mean, I like Rosie Barton.
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I don't think we need to like,
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you know, crap on her,
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but I admire the rhyme at least.
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So well done, Rachel.
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You're holding your own.
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You're going to be repping
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the West Side wrap thing before long.
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I should, we should just,
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everyone has laughed.
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No one is watching the show anymore
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except for someone who like
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walked away to the kitchen
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and left their YouTube
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or Spotify running.
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But anyway,
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I believe we can move on.
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And mercifully to the next topic here.
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Other things that we are spending
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millions and millions of dollars on.
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Rachel, why don't you take us away on this?
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So taxpayers are on the hook
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for $224 per day
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to claimants for illegal immigrants
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for their housing, food,
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and essential items.
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This was revealed
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from Conservative MP Leanne Root
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who asked the government
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last week what goods and services
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are being provided
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to asylum seekers in Canada,
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which means those
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without approved applications.
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And she published
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the order paper response question,
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which found that the federal government
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has approved $140 per night
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per room
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and roughly $84 per day for food
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totaling $224 per claimant.
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And I'm looking for the full amount here.
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So that's an all-time high of,
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there's over 42,000
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pending refugee claims
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in Canada right now.
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So if you're wondering,
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you know, you can't make ends meet,
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I hear from a lot of people
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who are about $100 short a month
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for making groceries.
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Where's all our money going?
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This is where it's going.
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It's going to illegals
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who have no right to be in Canada,
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putting them up at hotels,
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and we're paying for their food.
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Andrew, what do you make of this?
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Yeah, it's, I mean,
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you touch on the dollar value issue,
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but the one thing,
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and I pointed this out
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on my show earlier this week,
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that's important to keep in mind as well
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is that it's a symptom of another problem
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because the cost per day on asylum seekers
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is a consequence of the number
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of asylum seekers we have.
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So many that they have to be put up
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in hotels and fed.
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And the reason we have so many
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is because the government's
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not actually securing the border.
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So we are forced into this
00:14:46.840
because they're not dealing
00:14:48.100
with the other problem,
00:14:49.920
which is people who are in the United States,
00:14:51.820
which is a safe, free democratic nation,
00:14:53.960
whatever you may think
00:14:54.580
of Joe Biden's politics,
00:14:55.760
that say, okay,
00:14:57.080
I think I'll have a better go in Canada.
00:14:58.860
So they enter Canada illegally,
00:15:00.840
claim asylum.
00:15:02.020
Most of these claims
00:15:03.060
are going to get denied
00:15:03.880
and the people are going to be sent home.
00:15:05.500
But while they are waiting
00:15:07.120
for that decision,
00:15:08.100
which could be months,
00:15:08.960
it could be well over a year,
00:15:10.420
we're paying for them
00:15:11.440
and loading up these hotels.
00:15:13.200
And this has been an issue
00:15:14.180
that's been ongoing for,
00:15:16.000
I mean, it's been ongoing for years,
00:15:17.300
but for a decade,
00:15:18.460
it's been at, I'd say,
00:15:20.100
unsustainable levels.
00:15:21.960
And I know you in Alberta
00:15:23.800
are not dealing with this
00:15:24.700
as much as in Ontario,
00:15:25.960
but you look at places
00:15:26.780
like Niagara Falls
00:15:27.700
and I know like you have family
00:15:29.800
in that area, Rachel,
00:15:30.720
like it's absolutely crazy.
00:15:32.560
And you have hotels
00:15:33.360
that have just been commandeered
00:15:34.700
by this asylum program.
00:15:36.700
What do you make of this, Isaac?
00:15:38.680
Yeah, that does seem crazy to me,
00:15:40.300
specifically the fact that,
00:15:41.960
let's say the majority
00:15:43.560
of these asylum seekers
00:15:45.280
will be essentially deported.
00:15:47.260
So what reasoning would Canada
00:15:51.480
have to essentially pay
00:15:52.920
for their cost of living
00:15:54.260
in the interim?
00:15:55.440
But at the same time,
00:15:56.740
I'm trying to find,
00:15:59.220
I guess, the alternative,
00:16:01.020
which would be maybe
00:16:02.960
they wouldn't get paid for
00:16:03.980
and then they're homeless.
00:16:04.660
I remember I was writing
00:16:05.420
an article earlier
00:16:06.480
about homelessness
00:16:08.320
and hospital stays.
00:16:10.200
But as background,
00:16:11.220
I saw True North's exclusive
00:16:12.340
that said that nearly half
00:16:14.820
of Ottawa's homeless shelters
00:16:17.800
were filled with new refugees
00:16:19.980
and asylum claimants.
00:16:21.580
So that would obviously
00:16:23.700
be exacerbated
00:16:24.720
if the funding were pulled.
00:16:25.920
So I don't know.
00:16:26.420
What do you think
00:16:27.060
the best alternative would be
00:16:29.820
as opposed to paying
00:16:30.880
for these asylum claimants
00:16:33.080
to stay in hotels?
00:16:34.760
Well, I think it kind of goes back
00:16:35.780
to what Andrew was saying
00:16:36.680
about how the issue is
00:16:37.600
that these are large people
00:16:38.500
who are coming in
00:16:39.280
across the U.S. border.
00:16:41.080
So, I mean,
00:16:41.320
if this is foot traffic
00:16:42.140
that we're looking at,
00:16:42.780
I think the best thing
00:16:43.440
would be to reinforce
00:16:44.340
those borders
00:16:44.860
so they're not coming
00:16:45.420
across the border at all
00:16:46.480
because even if they are
00:16:47.900
being deported,
00:16:48.360
we're also paying
00:16:48.900
for those flights
00:16:49.740
to get them back
00:16:50.720
to their home countries.
00:16:51.580
So I think we could look
00:16:52.660
at saving a lot of money
00:16:53.540
if we're just stopping
00:16:54.160
these people right
00:16:54.740
at the U.S. border
00:16:55.320
and we're not letting
00:16:56.140
them into Canada.
00:16:57.080
You know, the U.S.
00:16:57.760
obviously has its own
00:16:58.600
border crisis
00:16:59.300
and I think there's
00:17:00.560
a certain extent
00:17:01.180
at which we're going
00:17:01.660
to be feeling the effects
00:17:02.380
of that because they just
00:17:03.160
have millions
00:17:04.040
of illegal migrants
00:17:04.940
pouring through
00:17:05.740
their southern border
00:17:06.460
and so people are being
00:17:07.640
pushed upwards
00:17:08.200
throughout the country.
00:17:08.900
So this is actually
00:17:09.540
going to become probably
00:17:10.220
a bigger and bigger problem
00:17:11.220
if we don't take some action
00:17:12.760
and seal that border
00:17:13.740
sooner rather than later.
00:17:16.240
Yeah, and I think that,
00:17:17.860
again, when we're stuck
00:17:19.340
with it once they're here,
00:17:20.560
so you have to go back
00:17:21.600
to basics and actually
00:17:22.560
secure the border
00:17:23.220
in the first place.
00:17:23.860
Like the whole point
00:17:24.560
of what caused a lot of this
00:17:26.500
was this thing called
00:17:27.240
the safe third country.
00:17:28.180
I know I always say
00:17:28.700
we have to keep off
00:17:29.320
the record fun
00:17:29.920
but then I have to
00:17:30.420
explain things sometimes.
00:17:31.880
It's the safe
00:17:32.440
third country agreement
00:17:33.180
which basically said
00:17:33.940
it was a deal
00:17:34.500
between Canada and the U.S.
00:17:35.680
that if you land
00:17:36.240
in one country,
00:17:37.140
it's considered a safe country
00:17:38.800
so you can't then
00:17:39.900
go to another one.
00:17:41.480
The loophole in that
00:17:42.760
was if you cross
00:17:43.980
the border illegally.
00:17:45.460
So that was what
00:17:46.160
was causing this.
00:17:47.000
You couldn't actually
00:17:47.680
drive from Windsor
00:17:49.020
to Detroit
00:17:49.640
or Detroit to Windsor
00:17:51.040
at the sanctioned
00:17:52.360
border crossing
00:17:53.120
and do this
00:17:53.800
but if you do it illegally,
00:17:55.220
you were able to
00:17:56.380
and then Canada
00:17:56.900
has to do it.
00:17:57.780
Because you're right, Isaac,
00:17:58.560
once you talk about
00:17:59.540
the options that people have
00:18:01.000
that Canada has,
00:18:02.340
you either put them in jail
00:18:03.700
which is a legitimate option
00:18:06.260
available to government
00:18:07.020
but it's more expensive.
00:18:08.040
Housing inmates in jail
00:18:09.480
is costlier
00:18:10.840
and let's face it,
00:18:11.720
it's also,
00:18:12.400
you raise moral questions
00:18:13.580
depending on the asylum seeker
00:18:15.720
and so you're left with that
00:18:17.680
or leaving them homeless
00:18:18.400
or this kind of quasi measure
00:18:20.640
of putting them up in a hotel.
00:18:22.560
But then the other issue
00:18:23.400
we get to
00:18:23.960
is if their claims are denied,
00:18:26.460
are we actually tracking them down
00:18:28.260
and deporting them?
00:18:29.120
And Canada has an abysmal,
00:18:30.660
abysmal record
00:18:31.420
at deportation.
00:18:32.960
So like all of these
00:18:33.720
are flowing
00:18:34.200
from that initial border issue.
00:18:36.400
Yeah, I still maintain that.
00:18:41.620
When no one says anything,
00:18:42.800
I assume I just made so much sense
00:18:44.260
that no one possibly
00:18:45.080
can add or refute anything.
00:18:47.060
That's where I was at, yeah.
00:18:49.140
You really did hit the nail on the head.
00:18:50.960
I just maintain,
00:18:51.540
I think the best thing
00:18:52.160
would be to really seal
00:18:52.980
those borders.
00:18:53.820
This isn't an issue
00:18:54.500
I've covered a ton of.
00:18:55.480
I think we've seen a lot
00:18:56.540
of good stuff from Lindsay Shepard
00:18:57.520
on this.
00:18:58.140
As you've mentioned, Andrew,
00:18:59.240
like I'm out here in Alberta.
00:19:00.400
It's true.
00:19:00.840
This issue is particularly bad.
00:19:02.220
I know in Quebec,
00:19:03.260
I know in Niagara Falls,
00:19:04.380
certainly we've seen
00:19:05.200
some of the effects
00:19:05.880
of just the high levels
00:19:06.860
of migrants living in that area
00:19:08.180
and how that trickles down
00:19:09.340
to the whole Niagara region.
00:19:10.560
And we even see a rise
00:19:11.320
in things like crime
00:19:12.580
and car accidents.
00:19:13.360
There's just a whole lot
00:19:14.280
of issues going on.
00:19:15.580
But I mean,
00:19:16.060
at the end of the day,
00:19:16.580
this is also affecting
00:19:17.560
Western Canada as well
00:19:19.840
because what we're seeing
00:19:20.740
in places like Toronto
00:19:21.900
is we're seeing
00:19:22.720
just a flood of immigrants
00:19:24.100
and not all of them illegal.
00:19:25.660
Many are legal.
00:19:26.780
Many of them are allowed
00:19:27.340
into the country,
00:19:27.820
but it's just so many people
00:19:28.840
in one region
00:19:29.440
that we're seeing
00:19:30.120
a lot of people look,
00:19:30.940
okay, where else in Canada
00:19:32.040
can I flee to?
00:19:33.380
And many people
00:19:33.940
are coming out to Calgary
00:19:35.000
and Alberta was once seen
00:19:37.180
as a place
00:19:37.520
with the Alberta advantage.
00:19:38.420
You'd come here,
00:19:39.060
you'd get to keep
00:19:39.960
more of your money,
00:19:40.880
you'd have a lower cost of living,
00:19:42.540
you'd have a better chance
00:19:43.220
at owning a home.
00:19:44.160
And a lot of that
00:19:44.880
just isn't really the case
00:19:45.720
anymore for Western Canada.
00:19:46.860
I know that there's been
00:19:47.460
some frustration
00:19:48.120
with Alberta Premier
00:19:49.200
Daniel Smith
00:19:49.760
and her Alberta
00:19:50.560
is calling campaign
00:19:51.380
as a result
00:19:52.060
because people would really
00:19:53.180
like to slow down
00:19:54.100
and say,
00:19:54.420
let's stop welcoming people
00:19:55.580
here for the time being
00:19:56.460
and really just kind of
00:19:57.560
let things even out
00:19:58.840
before we continue to say,
00:20:00.060
hey, why don't you come
00:20:00.760
to Alberta?
00:20:01.300
We're looking to grow
00:20:01.900
our population,
00:20:02.900
we're looking to grow
00:20:03.340
our economy.
00:20:04.160
So when we see
00:20:05.240
this many people
00:20:05.760
flood into a region,
00:20:06.480
it really does put
00:20:07.260
so many pressures
00:20:08.060
on every aspect of life,
00:20:09.620
housing, schools,
00:20:10.820
hospitals, everything.
00:20:13.480
Yeah, this from the
00:20:14.580
legal migration aspect of it,
00:20:16.760
I mean, Alberta
00:20:17.440
has been setting
00:20:18.120
records on pretty much
00:20:20.620
a monthly basis
00:20:21.820
for interprovincial migration,
00:20:23.200
which I guess
00:20:24.740
can be expected
00:20:25.360
as the cost of living crisis
00:20:26.660
rises with Alberta
00:20:28.640
being one of the most
00:20:29.660
not only affordable provinces
00:20:31.220
but where you can also
00:20:32.180
make the most amount
00:20:32.940
of money, right?
00:20:33.980
When you balance
00:20:34.600
those two things,
00:20:35.380
it's definitely a good place
00:20:36.840
to be economically,
00:20:38.060
which I think is why
00:20:38.820
so many people
00:20:39.780
from eastern provinces
00:20:40.600
are looking to migrate here.
00:20:42.940
Yeah, very well said.
00:20:44.600
On that note,
00:20:45.900
Isaac, since you're already
00:20:46.760
talking, why don't you
00:20:47.580
kick off our next story here?
00:20:49.500
Yeah, so this next one's
00:20:50.900
pretty fun.
00:20:51.840
Well, fun.
00:20:52.560
Yeah, Andrew was saying
00:20:53.560
to come up with a fun story
00:20:55.260
and I thought, well, anger's...
00:20:56.900
I said light, light story,
00:20:58.560
but anyway.
00:20:59.400
I was thinking anger
00:21:00.220
might be an antonym of fun.
00:21:01.580
Well, not exactly,
00:21:02.540
but anyways.
00:21:04.160
Yeah, so basically,
00:21:06.100
anger in Canada
00:21:06.880
towards government,
00:21:08.380
economy, and policies
00:21:09.580
has reached a record high.
00:21:11.920
This from the Polera's
00:21:13.340
Rage Index,
00:21:15.320
which they have been tracking
00:21:16.260
for about two years.
00:21:19.020
And interestingly,
00:21:19.580
this monthly edition
00:21:21.260
of the index
00:21:22.180
had a specific focus
00:21:23.580
focus on the budget
00:21:24.860
with some data
00:21:26.440
that was quite surprising
00:21:28.000
to me.
00:21:28.980
For example,
00:21:29.520
I had seen previous polls
00:21:30.700
which showed that
00:21:31.560
21% of Canadians,
00:21:33.100
I know a low number,
00:21:34.080
supported the federal budget,
00:21:35.360
but this Rage Index
00:21:36.180
showed an even lower one
00:21:37.720
wherein only 9%
00:21:39.300
of Canadians
00:21:39.960
had a positive outlook
00:21:40.980
on the budget.
00:21:41.680
This was separated by
00:21:42.660
pleased or moderately happy
00:21:44.360
and very happy
00:21:45.280
with the latter,
00:21:46.580
only 1% of Canadians
00:21:47.960
belonging to.
00:21:49.780
And it also broke down
00:21:50.820
political parties,
00:21:52.040
which was cool.
00:21:52.580
As you might expect,
00:21:54.540
conservative supporters
00:21:56.480
were the angriest
00:21:57.460
and liberals
00:21:58.020
the least angry.
00:22:00.980
But what might be
00:22:02.060
more interesting
00:22:02.480
is that the Bloc Québécois
00:22:04.040
and the NDP
00:22:04.800
pretty much mirrored
00:22:06.180
each other
00:22:06.600
in percentage of anger
00:22:08.280
on this index.
00:22:09.020
I think it was 54%
00:22:09.840
and 53%,
00:22:10.460
if I remember correctly.
00:22:11.460
But you might have expected
00:22:12.960
less,
00:22:15.660
or sorry,
00:22:16.060
more anger
00:22:16.500
from the Bloc Québécois
00:22:17.480
supporters
00:22:17.860
and less so
00:22:18.520
from the NDP.
00:22:19.140
I guess I'm curious
00:22:22.360
when Andrew said
00:22:23.320
lighter story,
00:22:24.860
what about you were like,
00:22:26.040
I'm going to talk
00:22:26.640
about the rage index.
00:22:29.240
Andrew,
00:22:31.880
your audio
00:22:32.420
is not working.
00:22:34.540
And,
00:22:34.680
oh,
00:22:35.480
oh,
00:22:35.920
yeah,
00:22:36.140
no,
00:22:36.280
I thought I was muted.
00:22:37.160
And no,
00:22:37.780
I said it's okay,
00:22:39.160
but rage index
00:22:40.160
is just a funny name.
00:22:41.480
I guess that's why.
00:22:42.660
So I was just being
00:22:43.820
like childishly immature
00:22:44.800
about it.
00:22:47.120
Yeah,
00:22:47.480
well,
00:22:47.880
I mean,
00:22:48.220
I find this study
00:22:49.020
like a little bit depressing.
00:22:50.240
I mean,
00:22:50.480
I think Isaac and I
00:22:51.260
are both in this category,
00:22:52.120
although Isaac just got a house
00:22:53.240
recently,
00:22:53.600
which is pretty big.
00:22:54.480
Congratulations.
00:22:55.240
But being in that category
00:22:56.900
of younger Canadians
00:22:57.760
who are really feeling
00:22:58.500
the impacts
00:22:59.080
of the Trudeau liberals
00:23:00.520
and their really poor policies
00:23:02.860
and the impact of that
00:23:03.620
on Canadians
00:23:04.160
and those of us
00:23:05.200
who are struggling to,
00:23:06.220
you know,
00:23:06.800
have a newer vehicle
00:23:07.860
or own a home.
00:23:08.780
So I get really worked up
00:23:10.020
when I read stories like this
00:23:11.060
because I'm like,
00:23:11.560
yeah,
00:23:11.720
like I'm there
00:23:12.420
and I'm angry
00:23:13.100
and I'm really pissed off
00:23:14.300
about what the Trudeau liberals
00:23:15.460
are doing to our country.
00:23:16.540
So someone who finds
00:23:17.940
the story a bit lighter
00:23:18.640
maybe,
00:23:19.000
you know,
00:23:19.240
maybe has to take it away
00:23:20.100
here,
00:23:20.320
Andrew.
00:23:21.540
I don't find it lighter per se.
00:23:24.180
I guess it's interesting
00:23:25.540
that it's just so explicit
00:23:26.780
because a lot of people,
00:23:28.600
especially Canadians,
00:23:29.620
really try to mute
00:23:30.500
their emotions
00:23:31.800
and they try to say,
00:23:32.640
well,
00:23:32.880
you know,
00:23:33.060
I'm a little frustrated
00:23:33.840
and how many people,
00:23:34.860
I've spoken to so many
00:23:35.800
over the years
00:23:36.320
who really tried it,
00:23:37.860
like they feel guilty
00:23:38.760
about being dissatisfied
00:23:40.020
where they'll say things like,
00:23:41.180
well,
00:23:41.980
oh well,
00:23:42.400
I know,
00:23:42.740
I mean,
00:23:42.940
I don't have it as bad
00:23:43.900
as other people do
00:23:44.680
and they really do not want
00:23:46.460
to just come out
00:23:46.920
and say it
00:23:47.300
and the fact that now
00:23:47.960
you have people
00:23:48.460
that are explicitly saying,
00:23:50.360
yeah,
00:23:50.520
I'm pissed off,
00:23:51.300
yeah,
00:23:51.440
I'm angry,
00:23:51.880
I think that's actually
00:23:52.620
a sign of just how bad
00:23:53.760
things have gotten.
00:23:55.100
Yeah,
00:23:55.180
I think that's fair,
00:23:55.780
especially when you consider
00:23:56.540
what you said about Canadians
00:23:57.540
typically being not quick
00:23:58.880
to complain
00:23:59.360
and being a little bit
00:23:59.980
more apathetic
00:24:00.640
when it comes to politics
00:24:02.000
but yeah,
00:24:03.080
now that people
00:24:03.520
are really feeling
00:24:04.140
that frustration
00:24:04.720
and willing to voice it
00:24:05.440
and I think,
00:24:06.100
you know,
00:24:06.300
it's not even necessarily
00:24:07.140
saying like,
00:24:08.060
oh,
00:24:08.400
you know,
00:24:08.600
I know other people
00:24:09.060
don't have it as bad
00:24:09.800
but let's compare
00:24:10.360
to where our country
00:24:10.980
was at 10 years ago
00:24:12.280
or our country's declined
00:24:13.440
rapidly in the last 10 years
00:24:14.640
or the cost of living
00:24:15.380
has increased exponentially
00:24:16.300
or the Canadian dollar
00:24:17.200
is worth less
00:24:17.900
or Canadian mental health
00:24:19.340
is poor.
00:24:21.100
You know,
00:24:21.280
we can study all these metrics
00:24:22.200
and see that they've
00:24:23.340
actually gotten worse
00:24:24.100
over the last 10 years
00:24:24.800
so I think we should
00:24:25.280
really be comparing things
00:24:26.560
to,
00:24:27.120
you know,
00:24:27.360
just even what it was
00:24:28.060
a decade ago
00:24:28.580
and I don't think
00:24:29.040
there's anything wrong
00:24:29.820
with saying,
00:24:30.500
you know,
00:24:31.100
I would like to get back
00:24:31.820
to the Canada that we had,
00:24:32.880
that Canada felt
00:24:33.560
more optimistic,
00:24:34.440
that Canada felt
00:24:35.120
more hopeful
00:24:35.700
and more promising
00:24:36.760
for me and for my family
00:24:38.220
and so I think
00:24:38.940
if you look at it
00:24:39.540
from that way
00:24:39.960
it's actually
00:24:40.340
a very fair metric
00:24:41.240
and even for myself
00:24:42.380
like growing up
00:24:44.120
I didn't necessarily think
00:24:45.360
that we had
00:24:46.060
the most amazing house
00:24:48.120
and now looking at it
00:24:48.860
it's sort of like a dream
00:24:49.780
to think,
00:24:50.540
oh,
00:24:50.600
we had a house
00:24:51.180
with four to five bedrooms
00:24:52.800
and two washrooms
00:24:53.840
and everyone had their own room
00:24:54.700
and we had a little bit
00:24:55.340
of a backyard
00:24:55.880
and,
00:24:56.980
you know,
00:24:57.060
we even had a driveway
00:24:57.880
and a shed out back.
00:24:58.640
Those things are really hard
00:24:59.700
for people to get now
00:25:00.660
and there's nothing wrong
00:25:01.680
with saying
00:25:01.980
I would at least like
00:25:02.640
to be able to offer my kids
00:25:04.000
the same upbringing
00:25:05.520
and the same quality of life
00:25:06.660
that I had growing up
00:25:07.480
and I think
00:25:07.940
we shouldn't accept
00:25:08.820
that we are declining
00:25:09.880
in those metrics
00:25:10.480
as a country
00:25:10.980
when there's no reason
00:25:12.360
that we shouldn't be
00:25:12.980
improving of them
00:25:13.760
that we really should be able
00:25:14.980
to offer our families
00:25:15.720
a better quality of life.
00:25:18.620
Yeah,
00:25:19.140
I think you're right about that
00:25:20.400
and the idea
00:25:21.600
of like the starter home
00:25:22.820
I think
00:25:23.440
it's coming back
00:25:24.600
but there was a time
00:25:25.460
where I think a lot of people
00:25:26.460
I mean,
00:25:26.700
certainly millennials
00:25:27.540
were looking at houses
00:25:30.080
and everyone wanted
00:25:30.960
the giant dream home
00:25:32.160
that no one would really
00:25:33.960
reasonably expect
00:25:34.960
to be able to buy
00:25:36.000
just out of school
00:25:36.680
or whatever.
00:25:37.260
I think it's changing
00:25:38.120
a little bit.
00:25:38.620
I think now you see
00:25:39.340
a lot of younger people
00:25:40.120
that are willing to
00:25:41.120
say I'll be in a less
00:25:42.480
desirable neighborhood
00:25:43.360
or I'll have a really
00:25:44.140
small house
00:25:44.660
but even then
00:25:45.680
they're finding it
00:25:47.060
like just completely
00:25:47.940
unaffordable.
00:25:48.620
Like you look at some
00:25:49.200
of the property listings
00:25:50.000
in places like Toronto
00:25:50.940
and Vancouver
00:25:51.520
and it's like $1 million
00:25:52.820
for a place
00:25:54.200
that you might get shot
00:25:55.060
just going from your bathroom
00:25:56.040
to your bedroom.
00:25:57.700
I mean,
00:25:58.180
it's not even that much
00:25:58.840
better in Calgary though.
00:25:59.740
Like I had Councillor Dan McLean
00:26:00.780
on my show the other week
00:26:01.540
we were talking about
00:26:02.180
the rezoning going on
00:26:03.160
in Calgary
00:26:03.480
which has passed now
00:26:04.340
by the way
00:26:04.820
and I was saying
00:26:05.720
you know,
00:26:06.180
a lot of these
00:26:06.700
modest bungalows
00:26:08.120
are going to be torn down
00:26:08.900
and replaced with
00:26:09.920
duplexes
00:26:11.220
that'll be worth
00:26:11.760
quite a bit
00:26:12.100
and he was like
00:26:12.420
in some cases
00:26:12.900
these duplexes
00:26:13.660
are going to be worth
00:26:14.400
a million dollars.
00:26:15.840
So you're paying
00:26:16.520
a million dollars
00:26:17.320
for duplexes.
00:26:17.880
You've got neighbors
00:26:18.320
on both sides of you.
00:26:19.520
You might have a unit below you.
00:26:20.500
You might even have
00:26:20.980
the unit in the back of you.
00:26:22.180
So you've got absolutely
00:26:22.860
no privacy
00:26:23.500
no space to yourself.
00:26:25.140
I guess we can all agree
00:26:25.820
the World Economic Forum
00:26:27.160
has been more successful
00:26:28.080
than we care to admit.
00:26:30.540
Although Isaac
00:26:31.280
Isaac got a house
00:26:32.120
so maybe he's like
00:26:33.200
sitting on some giant
00:26:34.100
like Scrooge McDuck
00:26:35.620
sized pile of cash
00:26:37.180
that we don't know about.
00:26:38.560
Yeah.
00:26:41.060
Changing topics.
00:26:41.840
He blushes and tugs
00:26:42.620
at his collar.
00:26:43.320
All right, never mind.
00:26:44.480
No, no, no.
00:26:45.000
There was two more things
00:26:45.920
I wanted to mention
00:26:46.540
from the study quickly
00:26:47.400
which firstly
00:26:48.420
this obviously focused
00:26:49.540
on the rage index
00:26:51.120
towards the federal government
00:26:52.160
but they also pulled
00:26:53.160
people from provinces
00:26:54.480
and asked them
00:26:55.140
about their feelings
00:26:55.880
towards the provincial government
00:26:57.080
which was pretty interesting
00:26:58.480
because anger
00:26:59.260
towards the provincial government
00:27:00.460
was highest in Ontario
00:27:01.640
at 60%
00:27:02.500
but anger in British Columbia
00:27:04.620
towards the provincial government
00:27:06.060
grew at the highest rate
00:27:07.140
which was a 16% jump
00:27:09.620
from 38% in January
00:27:11.140
to 54% in April.
00:27:14.380
And then some
00:27:15.180
one other point
00:27:15.960
I did want to mention
00:27:16.620
because this was interesting too
00:27:18.260
you might think
00:27:19.080
that the oldest generation
00:27:20.860
would be the angriest
00:27:22.720
however
00:27:23.100
in this study
00:27:24.940
Gen X
00:27:25.680
which they listed
00:27:26.280
as 44 to 59 years old
00:27:28.340
was the angriest generation
00:27:29.640
so yeah
00:27:31.160
if you two want to weigh in
00:27:32.100
on that
00:27:32.400
anything that I just said
00:27:33.460
that
00:27:33.660
the provincial thing
00:27:37.180
I find interesting
00:27:38.040
because
00:27:38.540
during COVID
00:27:39.880
I think we saw
00:27:40.540
government
00:27:41.000
was like an amorphous mass
00:27:42.600
like people were mad
00:27:43.760
at government
00:27:44.320
and I don't think
00:27:44.920
they really cared
00:27:45.560
which level it was
00:27:46.620
so in that sense
00:27:48.380
I do find it interesting
00:27:49.380
that Ontario
00:27:49.960
has borne the brunt of it
00:27:51.500
the Gen X one
00:27:52.780
I'm surprised by
00:27:53.600
because I think
00:27:54.500
Gen Xers
00:27:55.080
are better off
00:27:56.980
than millennials
00:27:57.600
who are better off
00:27:58.580
than Gen Z
00:27:59.320
in a lot of ways
00:28:00.300
although I'm not
00:28:00.980
yeah I don't know
00:28:02.220
that's a confusing one
00:28:03.020
the Gen X
00:28:03.600
would be the generation
00:28:04.380
just below the baby boomers
00:28:05.760
and
00:28:06.480
yeah Gen X
00:28:07.080
is the friend
00:28:07.600
the friend's generations
00:28:08.680
I mean Gen Xers
00:28:09.500
are yeah
00:28:09.900
now like 50 years old
00:28:10.960
so it's the
00:28:11.580
it's the age
00:28:12.440
of the cast of friends
00:28:13.260
basically
00:28:13.720
I'm actually not
00:28:14.560
super surprised by this
00:28:15.680
because the baby boomers
00:28:17.320
have always been regarded
00:28:18.240
as like the generation
00:28:19.260
that got all the blessings
00:28:20.180
they have all the wealth
00:28:21.060
I know a lot of people
00:28:21.580
are saying with
00:28:22.200
the Trudeau liberals
00:28:23.320
new changes to taxes
00:28:24.280
are really targeting
00:28:24.980
the baby boomers
00:28:25.780
and their wealth there
00:28:26.620
and my mom is a Gen X
00:28:28.040
and she always complains
00:28:28.920
she's like if I had just
00:28:29.660
been born a little bit earlier
00:28:30.840
I would have had a little
00:28:31.660
bit more money
00:28:32.220
the baby boomers
00:28:32.800
have it so much easier
00:28:33.740
so I feel like the Gen X
00:28:35.160
generation is maybe
00:28:35.860
that generation
00:28:36.420
that always feels like
00:28:37.080
they just kind of missed out
00:28:38.080
you know if they've been
00:28:38.760
born a few years earlier
00:28:40.580
maybe they would have had
00:28:41.300
the wealth of the baby boomers
00:28:42.280
so I don't know
00:28:42.760
I'm not super surprised
00:28:43.660
to see this number
00:28:44.300
they're also still
00:28:45.300
in the generation
00:28:46.000
that they're not retired
00:28:47.660
they're working
00:28:48.600
towards retirement
00:28:49.400
and with the changes
00:28:50.740
that we're seeing
00:28:51.180
with the cost of living crisis
00:28:52.300
they're probably looking
00:28:53.420
at this and thinking
00:28:54.100
huh I'd hope to retire
00:28:55.780
in 5 to 10
00:28:56.960
10 to 15 years
00:28:58.280
and that's not
00:28:59.640
going to happen
00:29:00.120
right now
00:29:00.620
I'm going to actually
00:29:01.080
have to work way past
00:29:02.120
the age I plan to retire at
00:29:03.580
because I'm not putting
00:29:04.960
away as much money
00:29:05.660
into my retirement
00:29:06.320
as I'd hoped to
00:29:07.120
I'm not making as much
00:29:08.220
all those things
00:29:09.460
so I'm not actually
00:29:10.640
super surprised
00:29:11.180
by those numbers
00:29:12.240
yeah I think
00:29:14.200
you've dated yourself
00:29:15.120
by saying that
00:29:15.900
your mother is in Gen X
00:29:17.460
because you even
00:29:18.160
made me feel old
00:29:18.920
because my parents
00:29:19.540
are boomers
00:29:20.100
I dated myself
00:29:22.220
yeah
00:29:22.960
oh
00:29:23.840
like you've dated yourself
00:29:25.660
you've established
00:29:27.240
not like you've gone out
00:29:28.600
on a romantic date
00:29:29.400
with yourself
00:29:29.820
I mean you've like
00:29:30.500
yes I get it
00:29:31.300
well here I'll just
00:29:31.960
I'm the oldest generation
00:29:33.500
of Gen Z
00:29:34.620
I'm the oldest generation
00:29:35.480
of Zoomers
00:29:36.100
so
00:29:36.500
okay
00:29:37.340
not that old
00:29:38.280
but
00:29:38.600
anyway what were you
00:29:39.960
saying Isaac
00:29:40.460
yeah sorry
00:29:41.280
just my theory
00:29:42.280
when I initially saw
00:29:43.400
the Gen X thing
00:29:45.640
was that
00:29:46.260
and especially
00:29:47.100
because I've spoken
00:29:48.080
with many people
00:29:48.720
in this generation
00:29:49.320
and the recurring issue
00:29:50.940
I see with them
00:29:52.060
is that they're worried
00:29:52.900
about their children
00:29:53.620
and I think people
00:29:54.900
in this generation
00:29:55.800
probably have children
00:29:56.820
that are teens
00:29:57.780
and maybe even
00:29:58.300
becoming adults
00:29:59.000
like Rachel said
00:29:59.900
your mom's in that
00:30:00.460
I'm becoming an adult
00:30:01.760
so I'm slowly
00:30:03.860
becoming an adult
00:30:04.660
and then yeah
00:30:05.680
so I think
00:30:06.360
they're worried
00:30:06.780
about the generational
00:30:09.620
economic damage
00:30:10.500
that their children
00:30:11.760
are going to have
00:30:12.460
to deal with
00:30:13.780
right
00:30:14.060
so that's my best theory
00:30:15.720
they don't really
00:30:16.160
go into it in the study
00:30:17.020
but
00:30:17.320
yeah
00:30:17.860
the word of the day
00:30:19.220
from or the term
00:30:19.880
of the day
00:30:20.160
from Trudeau
00:30:20.700
for the last two weeks
00:30:21.500
has been generational
00:30:22.320
fairness
00:30:22.820
that's what he
00:30:23.400
thinks he is delivering
00:30:25.260
so take from that
00:30:26.000
what you will
00:30:26.440
this
00:30:27.240
we're jumping a little
00:30:28.460
ahead of the schedule
00:30:29.420
here but
00:30:29.920
this one is interesting
00:30:31.220
Rachel
00:30:31.540
you flagged this
00:30:32.620
ridiculous shoppers
00:30:34.140
story
00:30:34.660
which I think
00:30:35.500
actually speaks
00:30:36.180
to the rage
00:30:36.940
and opportunity
00:30:37.760
explain what
00:30:38.780
happened here
00:30:39.320
so shoppers
00:30:40.980
a location
00:30:41.480
in Toronto
00:30:42.260
Ontario
00:30:43.040
posted a
00:30:44.620
job advertising
00:30:45.840
for a part-time
00:30:46.600
employee
00:30:47.000
the only thing
00:30:48.040
is that it
00:30:48.400
actually isn't
00:30:49.320
a job
00:30:49.780
it's a position
00:30:50.400
for an unpaid
00:30:51.840
volunteer
00:30:52.720
the listing here
00:30:53.840
says
00:30:54.360
this is a part-time
00:30:55.500
on-site volunteer
00:30:56.360
role at shoppers
00:30:57.680
drug mart
00:30:58.040
in Toronto
00:30:58.420
Ontario
00:30:58.840
as a volunteer
00:30:59.780
you will be
00:31:00.720
responsible for
00:31:01.400
assisting with
00:31:01.960
various tasks
00:31:02.800
and providing
00:31:03.600
support to the
00:31:04.220
staff
00:31:04.560
this may include
00:31:05.800
helping customers
00:31:06.460
find products
00:31:07.380
restocking shelves
00:31:08.540
organizing inventory
00:31:09.660
and maintaining a
00:31:10.920
clean and organized
00:31:11.720
store environment
00:31:12.520
your role as a
00:31:13.480
volunteer is crucial
00:31:14.500
in ensuring that
00:31:15.560
our customers have
00:31:16.380
a positive and
00:31:17.180
seamless shopping
00:31:18.000
experience
00:31:18.640
so obviously you
00:31:19.560
can see very
00:31:20.340
clearly from the
00:31:21.080
description there
00:31:21.660
that this is
00:31:22.300
indeed a job
00:31:23.880
something that
00:31:24.460
someone should be
00:31:24.920
paid at least
00:31:25.560
minimum wage for
00:31:26.580
but I think
00:31:27.780
what's happening
00:31:28.280
here is we've
00:31:29.320
all seen those
00:31:30.080
videos
00:31:30.760
well maybe not
00:31:32.300
all of us
00:31:32.700
but I'll describe
00:31:33.520
it for over
00:31:33.860
years haven't
00:31:34.220
seen it
00:31:34.440
if you if you
00:31:35.200
spend a long
00:31:35.540
time on X
00:31:36.140
as all of us
00:31:36.880
on here do
00:31:37.560
you've often
00:31:38.600
seen videos of
00:31:39.700
people in
00:31:40.360
Toronto lining
00:31:41.200
up at job
00:31:41.760
fairs for jobs
00:31:42.640
that something
00:31:43.320
like maybe say
00:31:43.940
Canadian Tire
00:31:44.640
or Tim Hortons
00:31:45.240
or McDonald's
00:31:45.860
and there's just
00:31:46.500
lines of people
00:31:47.500
down the street
00:31:48.240
you look like
00:31:48.760
these lines look
00:31:49.520
hours long and
00:31:50.400
sometimes there's
00:31:51.080
just people hoarding
00:31:52.080
the doors and
00:31:53.280
they're trying to
00:31:53.740
hint in their
00:31:54.220
application and you
00:31:55.140
even seen videos
00:31:55.820
where people are
00:31:56.340
like so
00:31:56.580
we're no longer
00:31:57.320
accepting applications
00:31:58.500
just hundreds and
00:31:59.520
hundreds of people
00:32:00.040
showing up at
00:32:00.580
jobs fairs for
00:32:01.320
very basic
00:32:02.360
minimum wage
00:32:03.520
part-time jobs
00:32:04.680
and so what we're
00:32:05.520
really seeing here
00:32:06.020
is there's just
00:32:06.400
not enough demand
00:32:07.220
and I can't help
00:32:08.340
but think that
00:32:08.800
maybe shoppers
00:32:09.420
thought eh
00:32:09.940
you know there's
00:32:10.700
so much demand
00:32:11.480
obviously this has
00:32:12.200
lowered the value
00:32:13.040
of wages
00:32:13.500
maybe we can get
00:32:14.520
someone who would
00:32:15.000
be desperate
00:32:15.540
enough to just
00:32:16.100
get some
00:32:16.420
experience to put
00:32:17.700
something on their
00:32:18.340
resume that could
00:32:19.340
later on lead to
00:32:20.460
a part-time job
00:32:21.140
since we've got so
00:32:21.820
many people who are
00:32:22.420
clearly out of work
00:32:23.160
that's my
00:32:24.300
suspicion
00:32:24.760
and you know
00:32:25.640
of course this
00:32:26.100
again falls back
00:32:26.820
to immigration
00:32:27.300
the high levels
00:32:27.860
of immigration
00:32:28.280
that we're seeing
00:32:28.700
particularly concentrated
00:32:30.320
in the GTA region
00:32:32.040
that's really what's
00:32:33.320
causing this impact
00:32:34.320
and I know that's my
00:32:35.220
suspicion as to why
00:32:36.120
shoppers posted this
00:32:37.260
position
00:32:37.520
I will say that
00:32:38.920
they have been
00:32:39.620
ruthlessly mocked
00:32:40.820
online for it
00:32:41.660
and they have since
00:32:42.660
pulled the job
00:32:43.520
posting from LinkedIn
00:32:44.700
but what do you guys
00:32:45.620
think?
00:32:46.660
yeah just well just
00:32:47.360
on that they
00:32:47.920
they pulled it
00:32:48.660
corporate weighed
00:32:49.540
in and said it
00:32:50.040
was a mistake
00:32:50.680
and then they also
00:32:51.880
said well it was
00:32:52.580
the the local
00:32:53.300
franchisor because
00:32:54.120
with shoppers the
00:32:54.820
pharmacist owns the
00:32:55.780
store so I don't
00:32:56.760
think it was a
00:32:57.120
mistake I think the
00:32:57.900
pharmacist was being
00:32:59.520
an absolutely you
00:33:01.000
know just predatory
00:33:02.120
human being in
00:33:03.680
trying to get people
00:33:04.660
to work for him for
00:33:05.580
free and I'm hoping
00:33:07.020
that you know the
00:33:07.640
whip is coming down
00:33:08.360
behind the scenes on
00:33:09.440
that but no it's
00:33:10.540
ridiculous and look I
00:33:11.280
mean internships have
00:33:12.660
in and of themselves
00:33:14.080
gotten a bad rap as
00:33:15.180
of late but at least
00:33:15.880
an internship is an
00:33:17.420
environment in which
00:33:18.120
you're supposed to
00:33:18.720
learn it's typically
00:33:19.480
part of studying but
00:33:21.680
but even then unpaid
00:33:22.720
internships are very
00:33:23.460
controversial this
00:33:24.160
doesn't even pretend
00:33:24.820
to be that this is
00:33:25.480
just hey come and
00:33:26.080
work for us for free
00:33:26.980
yeah I don't know and
00:33:29.940
I wouldn't necessarily
00:33:30.720
say there's anything
00:33:31.480
wrong with an unpaid
00:33:33.420
internship if you're
00:33:34.000
learning like a
00:33:34.620
specific skill and
00:33:35.460
maybe an industry you
00:33:36.100
want to go to but
00:33:36.580
come on restocking
00:33:37.480
shelves like just give
00:33:38.840
the person $11 $13
00:33:40.120
an hour whatever it
00:33:41.040
is call it a day
00:33:41.900
Isaac what do you
00:33:42.720
think?
00:33:43.700
yeah I've never
00:33:44.300
personally been a
00:33:45.260
supportive of unpaid
00:33:46.940
internships but to
00:33:49.640
play devil's advocate
00:33:50.300
for shoppers here I
00:33:52.580
they didn't hide like
00:33:54.440
it the header of the
00:33:55.840
job the did say
00:33:57.060
volunteer so it
00:33:58.480
wasn't like they were
00:33:59.280
saying oh you can be
00:34:00.380
a whatever their
00:34:01.420
employee title would
00:34:02.680
be called a stock
00:34:04.140
associate let's say
00:34:05.000
and then at the end
00:34:06.080
they're like oh but we
00:34:06.700
won't pay you so at
00:34:07.480
least they were just
00:34:09.760
saying that yeah this is
00:34:10.840
a volunteer role like
00:34:11.720
they weren't trying to
00:34:12.340
hide that at least and
00:34:13.860
I don't know how
00:34:15.420
abnormal it is to post
00:34:16.900
volunteer jobs to
00:34:19.180
LinkedIn but obviously
00:34:21.020
this is a job that you
00:34:22.160
you would normally
00:34:23.040
expect to get paid
00:34:24.220
for I mean it's an
00:34:26.520
interesting business
00:34:27.180
model join a market
00:34:28.880
that's so desperate for
00:34:31.340
work that you can just
00:34:32.340
post jobs that people
00:34:34.900
apply to because I think
00:34:36.000
I've always believed that
00:34:37.000
work gives work in
00:34:38.520
general just gives
00:34:39.260
humans a desire to
00:34:41.460
live right like it's a
00:34:43.080
really an important
00:34:44.120
part of life in my
00:34:44.880
opinion so yeah just a
00:34:46.880
good business design
00:34:48.200
there which is post your
00:34:50.420
jobs as volunteer work
00:34:51.600
because people are so
00:34:52.620
dying to work that
00:34:54.180
they'll just come work
00:34:54.920
for you for free yeah
00:34:55.920
I think you're actually
00:34:57.700
looking and then
00:34:58.480
there's the capitalist in
00:34:59.660
me that's like well
00:35:00.500
okay if people are
00:35:01.220
willing to do it then
00:35:02.120
you know it's no skin
00:35:02.920
off anyone else's back
00:35:03.840
but that but it's still
00:35:04.980
I think is is really I
00:35:07.860
I hope this hasn't
00:35:08.720
been going on for
00:35:09.420
long in fact I hope
00:35:10.140
this was the first
00:35:10.980
time this has ever
00:35:11.620
been done and we all
00:35:12.360
just see how terrible
00:35:13.080
it is and it never
00:35:14.760
happens again much
00:35:16.680
like I hope the
00:35:17.480
government never puts
00:35:18.600
1.7 million dollars
00:35:20.380
of your and my tax
00:35:22.220
money into funding
00:35:23.780
the manufacture of
00:35:25.100
pasta in Brampton
00:35:26.880
this is a thing that
00:35:29.340
happened this week the
00:35:30.360
federal government
00:35:30.960
announced 1.7 million
00:35:32.160
to Italpasta which is
00:35:34.240
a company that's going
00:35:35.020
to create a massive
00:35:35.980
massive economic benefit
00:35:37.440
with this they're
00:35:37.940
going to take the
00:35:38.480
1.7 million dollars
00:35:40.480
they're going to you
00:35:41.520
know turn it into
00:35:42.540
dough they're going to
00:35:43.260
need it they're going
00:35:43.800
to run it through the
00:35:44.340
machine and at the
00:35:45.000
end of it 10 jobs are
00:35:47.500
created 10 jobs that is
00:35:50.280
a cost per job of
00:35:51.460
170,000 dollars it
00:35:53.380
would be more
00:35:53.980
advantageous I think
00:35:54.800
just to walk around
00:35:55.540
in Brampton and give
00:35:57.400
people $10,000 each
00:35:58.980
until the 1.7 million
00:36:00.140
runs out you'd
00:36:00.760
probably have more
00:36:01.320
economic benefit there
00:36:02.400
Isaac what's your
00:36:03.860
take on this yeah I
00:36:06.080
don't disagree with
00:36:06.820
you about the economic
00:36:07.600
benefit part you give
00:36:09.320
those people the $10,000
00:36:10.180
they'll spend it which
00:36:11.820
I guess is the premise
00:36:13.180
of GDP but I mean
00:36:15.000
$170,000 per job to
00:36:16.880
make pasta here this
00:36:18.440
does seem a bit wild
00:36:20.080
and I mean this isn't
00:36:22.160
so much public sector
00:36:23.200
it is publicly funded
00:36:24.100
but we've seen the
00:36:25.100
public sector job
00:36:27.100
market balloon whereas
00:36:28.860
obviously private has
00:36:29.980
taken a huge hit in
00:36:31.260
Canada over the last
00:36:31.960
few years so yeah and
00:36:34.600
I don't know why why is
00:36:36.200
the federal government
00:36:36.960
funding this project I
00:36:38.960
haven't really looked
00:36:39.500
into the story as much
00:36:40.420
of my life but I don't
00:36:41.760
understand why why the
00:36:43.000
federal government would
00:36:43.800
have their toes in this
00:36:44.960
at all and why are
00:36:46.260
taxpayers paid for these
00:36:47.420
jobs they just want to
00:36:48.860
run around handing out
00:36:49.940
checks in an election
00:36:51.340
year or as in election
00:36:52.800
years anyway it seems
00:36:55.160
like general vote buying
00:36:56.280
and you know we are
00:36:57.700
seeing this with the
00:36:58.260
liberals time and time
00:36:58.980
again they're spending
00:36:59.720
millions billions of
00:37:01.040
dollars to create for
00:37:02.620
example in Ontario 1.5
00:37:04.220
billion dollars for an
00:37:06.300
EV battery plant that
00:37:07.800
will create a thousand
00:37:08.660
jobs I think there's been
00:37:09.600
a couple of those
00:37:10.840
announcements been
00:37:11.660
reported and you just
00:37:12.680
look at this and you're
00:37:13.180
like why is this
00:37:14.080
happening this seems
00:37:14.660
so ridiculous but really
00:37:15.400
it's a sign of a broken
00:37:16.760
economy when the
00:37:17.760
government is coming in
00:37:19.180
and they're spending
00:37:20.180
millions and billions of
00:37:21.460
taxpayers dollars to
00:37:22.220
create a handful of
00:37:22.900
jobs it doesn't really
00:37:23.500
make sense in a
00:37:24.480
functioning economy you
00:37:25.680
know the natural supply
00:37:27.120
and demand system would be
00:37:28.240
creating jobs while
00:37:29.620
paying jobs from private
00:37:31.100
money there would be no
00:37:32.180
need for the federal
00:37:32.820
government to get
00:37:33.340
involved here so this is
00:37:34.140
really a broken system
00:37:35.020
that we're seeing it's
00:37:35.700
just so frustrating the
00:37:37.240
amount of money we're
00:37:37.840
spending on a handful of
00:37:38.660
jobs and also for the
00:37:39.600
EV battery plant I mean
00:37:40.780
that's its own loaded
00:37:41.520
statements on its own
00:37:42.280
we're creating all these
00:37:43.020
batteries no one really
00:37:43.900
wants electric vehicles
00:37:44.680
they haven't been
00:37:45.200
successful I don't think
00:37:46.480
they are going to be
00:37:47.160
very successful in the
00:37:47.920
next few years I think
00:37:48.680
people have kind of seen
00:37:49.660
what they have to offer
00:37:50.360
and chosen other options
00:37:51.660
so it's extremely
00:37:53.140
frustrating as a consumer
00:37:54.160
and a taxpayer to watch
00:37:55.220
this yeah fair enough
00:37:57.360
all right just before we
00:37:59.140
go well actually you know
00:37:59.880
I got one thing for us
00:38:00.880
before we go but before
00:38:01.940
that thing happens
00:38:03.240
Rachel you had this
00:38:04.320
story which you wanted
00:38:05.700
it doesn't even really
00:38:06.440
fit anywhere but it was
00:38:07.280
just weird are we
00:38:10.140
putting it up on what
00:38:11.180
story is this Peru oh
00:38:13.780
yes so Peru has
00:38:15.200
officially classified
00:38:16.100
trans people as mentally
00:38:17.160
ill I saw this and I
00:38:18.200
you know thought for a
00:38:19.000
minute maybe that some
00:38:19.800
mistake had been made
00:38:20.920
but someone had to say
00:38:23.020
the quiet part out loud
00:38:23.900
yeah I don't think
00:38:27.300
Canada has sent enough
00:38:28.600
money to Peru which is
00:38:29.720
why this has happened
00:38:30.460
because obviously the
00:38:31.600
feds keep sending money
00:38:32.620
to these foreign
00:38:33.540
countries to bolster their
00:38:35.040
LGBTQ community so I
00:38:37.620
think the liberals
00:38:38.140
haven't invested enough
00:38:39.240
of our tax
00:38:40.560
don't give them any ideas
00:38:41.560
Isaac don't give them
00:38:42.660
any ideas
00:38:43.380
I asked so Sean is our
00:38:45.840
producer he produces my
00:38:47.120
show and this one and I
00:38:48.620
asked and he's Peruvian
00:38:49.820
so I asked him what he
00:38:51.060
thought about it and he
00:38:52.460
said he forgot he was
00:38:53.340
Peruvian so
00:38:54.400
which is a convenient way
00:38:56.260
to sidestep having an
00:38:57.160
opinion on this
00:38:57.820
take some pride
00:38:58.540
what was that Rachel
00:39:01.580
can take some pride in
00:39:02.500
it now
00:39:02.880
yeah I always thought
00:39:04.740
that a lot of those
00:39:05.740
like Latin American
00:39:06.620
like the Central and
00:39:08.020
South American countries
00:39:08.760
were like really really
00:39:09.600
uber progressive like
00:39:10.920
played but I guess not
00:39:13.440
necessarily so I don't
00:39:15.020
know maybe they're
00:39:15.400
turning a corner I
00:39:16.080
don't pretend to know
00:39:16.700
anything about Peruvian
00:39:17.740
politics so Sean weighs
00:39:19.900
in now he's had some
00:39:20.920
time to think about he
00:39:21.600
says as a Peruvian I
00:39:23.200
can say they are quite
00:39:23.920
conservative when it
00:39:25.040
comes to LGBTQ stuff so
00:39:26.960
okay so maybe it's
00:39:27.920
actually nothing new
00:39:28.660
from them
00:39:29.580
as our home Peruvian
00:39:31.800
expert has spoken I
00:39:33.220
think also we're seeing
00:39:34.040
the future Peruvian
00:39:35.540
ambassador to Canada or
00:39:37.260
Canadian ambassador to
00:39:38.120
Peru he forgets he's
00:39:38.920
Peruvian but as long as
00:39:40.180
he doesn't forget he's
00:39:40.780
Canadian he's eligible for
00:39:41.800
the gig
00:39:42.140
I also think we're
00:39:44.300
really seeing the
00:39:44.860
pendulum like swinging
00:39:45.840
back hard on a lot of
00:39:46.780
these issues
00:39:47.360
no I agree
00:39:48.440
all right so earlier on
00:39:49.780
we were all struggling to
00:39:50.700
come up with raps in
00:39:51.580
real time and as my
00:39:53.180
true north colleagues
00:39:53.900
know and are no doubt
00:39:54.800
infuriated by I have
00:39:56.700
just developed this like
00:39:58.180
weird affinity for AI
00:39:59.700
generated music as of
00:40:01.000
late so while people
00:40:02.360
were talking I
00:40:03.520
produced or had I
00:40:04.780
didn't do it I did
00:40:05.680
like nothing I typed in
00:40:06.900
one sentence an AI
00:40:08.500
generated rap about
00:40:10.140
defunding CBC now I
00:40:12.180
have not heard this yet
00:40:13.380
so this could be
00:40:14.500
terrible but we're
00:40:15.780
gonna put it up and
00:40:16.600
we're gonna listen to
00:40:17.280
it for this is the
00:40:18.000
world debut of a song
00:40:19.600
that the AI app
00:40:21.080
Suno has titled
00:40:22.120
defund the broadcast
00:40:23.820
yo it's time to
00:40:27.900
address a topic that's
00:40:29.140
been on my mind
00:40:30.000
CBC you claim to
00:40:31.160
represent the people
00:40:32.100
but you're far behind
00:40:33.120
causing taxpayers money
00:40:34.520
it's getting out of
00:40:35.460
control time to defund
00:40:36.800
the broadcast it's time
00:40:37.940
for your reign to
00:40:38.760
fold CBC used to be
00:40:40.580
the voice of the nation
00:40:41.580
but nowadays all I hear
00:40:42.940
is propaganda and
00:40:44.000
misrepresentation you're
00:40:45.540
out of touch with
00:40:46.220
Canadians you don't
00:40:47.280
understand our plight
00:40:48.280
it's time to cut the
00:40:49.340
funding we need to
00:40:50.240
change and we need it
00:40:51.280
right you claim to
00:40:52.320
be unbiased but it's
00:40:53.340
clear that ain't the
00:40:54.040
case reporting with
00:40:55.240
agenda pushing
00:40:56.040
narratives in our face
00:40:57.280
you forgot your core
00:40:58.540
mission the reason you
00:40:59.660
exist it's time to
00:41:01.540
defund the broadcast
00:41:02.700
it's time for you to
00:41:04.080
resist
00:41:04.640
I gotta say that's
00:41:18.640
better than the Dubai
00:41:19.800
climate disinformation
00:41:21.300
rap I think
00:41:22.160
that was quite good
00:41:23.320
I guess I'm actually
00:41:24.860
the one who's behind
00:41:25.600
the times because
00:41:26.200
while you were working
00:41:26.940
away at your little
00:41:28.640
song I was kind of
00:41:29.640
just looking up words
00:41:30.380
on rhyme dictionary
00:41:31.200
trying to come up with
00:41:32.420
some more rhymes and
00:41:33.660
in the whole time I
00:41:34.300
only got one and I
00:41:35.340
don't even remember it
00:41:36.140
now
00:41:36.440
I was Barton and
00:41:39.100
Darton you had done
00:41:40.280
Rosie Barton and
00:41:41.020
Darton
00:41:41.320
but I've been also
00:41:42.020
working on rhymes
00:41:42.900
throughout the show and
00:41:44.620
it definitely wasn't as
00:41:45.840
fast as your AI song
00:41:47.040
okay this is why we're
00:41:49.000
all going to be out of
00:41:49.560
work when the the
00:41:50.480
machines rise up and
00:41:51.640
take their rightful
00:41:52.840
place on the throne of
00:41:53.720
civilization all right
00:41:54.680
on that happy delightful
00:41:56.240
note thanks to Rachel
00:41:58.180
Emanuel and Isaac
00:41:59.180
Lamoureux for coming on
00:42:00.100
the show thanks to all of
00:42:01.540
you for tuning in hope
00:42:02.600
you have a fantastic long
00:42:04.280
weekend and remember
00:42:05.680
everything you've heard
00:42:06.460
was please please please
00:42:08.320
remember this because I
00:42:09.620
don't want this getting
00:42:10.180
out it was all off the
00:42:11.320
record
00:42:11.640
Sean wants to know if
00:42:21.040
the rap counts as
00:42:21.980
Canadian content I I
00:42:24.160
don't know so I'm
00:42:24.960
Canadian and I did the
00:42:25.940
prompt but the computer
00:42:26.940
might not be Canadian so
00:42:28.040
I don't know if it's a
00:42:28.740
Canadian artist
00:42:29.500
we'll just you know
00:42:32.500
jiggle the words a little
00:42:33.220
bit so the CRTC doesn't
00:42:34.520
flag it
00:42:35.040
oh no I if it is
00:42:36.900
Canadian because when the
00:42:37.920
online streaming act comes
00:42:38.940
in maybe this is like what
00:42:39.920
we can just do to like
00:42:40.680
the front page see I
00:42:42.660
think that we you know
00:42:43.900
need to just do away with
00:42:45.060
AI so we can all use our
00:42:46.380
brains a little more you
00:42:47.600
know flex our skills we're
00:42:48.760
all becoming too lazy you
00:42:50.240
came up with one rhyme in
00:42:51.240
45 minutes Rachel
00:42:52.280
but it's a good one you
00:42:54.120
want to hear it Rosie
00:42:55.620
Barton sues sue the
00:42:57.480
Tories that action is
00:42:59.520
damn the Tory
00:43:00.360
we need an AI model on the
00:43:04.100
website that wraps all of
00:43:05.320
our articles out for the
00:43:06.480
for the
00:43:07.000
I put Andrew's AI song into
00:43:08.740
my podcast
00:43:09.560
I know I did people like
00:43:11.060
that I forget it's very
00:43:12.660
mixed it's half and half
00:43:14.220
um a lot of people like the
00:43:16.340
song and then a lot of
00:43:17.260
people are like oh I can't
00:43:19.140
stand that it's AI but
00:43:20.220
otherwise they like the
00:43:20.840
song and then there's also
00:43:21.600
a good number of people who
00:43:22.640
are like it's super cringy
00:43:24.300
Rachel like you need to take
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