Off the Record - May 17, 2024


Taxpayers on hook for “climate disinformation” rap

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Andrew Lawton, Isaac Lamoureux, and Rachel Emanuel are back with another edition of Off The Record! This week, the crew talks about the devastating wildfires in Alberta, the CO-Vaccine controversy, and the carbon tax.

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00:00:00.000 I used to be unable to smile in photos because it would just look so like weird.
00:00:06.060 I'd be like Chandler.
00:00:06.880 Well, that's a dated.
00:00:07.560 You're too young for friends, both of you, but it's like, it would be like Chandler and
00:00:10.140 friends.
00:00:10.500 I'd be like, I've seen the whole series, so I don't know.
00:00:13.980 Oh, okay.
00:00:14.480 There you go.
00:00:15.580 Yeah.
00:00:16.420 You watch, watch friends, Rachel.
00:00:18.480 I have seen it.
00:00:19.520 Yes.
00:00:20.160 And speaking of even older sitcoms, I'm like almost done Seinfeld.
00:00:23.640 So yeah.
00:00:24.800 Rachel's not engaging in the pre-show banter.
00:00:27.000 She looks very aloof right now.
00:00:28.260 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:00:28.800 I've had a very, very stressful couple of days.
00:00:32.580 All right.
00:00:33.400 Well, I guess let's get things started then.
00:00:43.340 Hello and welcome to you all.
00:00:46.100 Happy Friday.
00:00:47.340 We are heading into the long weekend, so it's not just a regular old Friday.
00:00:50.680 It is a Friday that hopefully precedes a few days of deserved and in this climate needed
00:00:56.000 R&R.
00:00:57.020 It is my pleasure to be with you again once on off the, wait, no, my pleasure to be with
00:01:01.860 you once again.
00:01:02.960 I was like speaking like Yoda there.
00:01:05.040 Pleasure, pleasure with you are it is, but it is off the record.
00:01:09.400 I am Andrew Lawton and joining me are Isaac Lamoureux and Rachel Emanuel.
00:01:15.400 Good to have you both on.
00:01:17.400 You were on last week, but I wasn't.
00:01:18.960 So this is the first time for this particular trio.
00:01:21.440 Welcome.
00:01:21.680 Not only are we both, I'm sure, happy to be back, but I think we're also pretty relieved
00:01:26.180 that you're back to hosting again, Andrew.
00:01:28.400 I was away last week.
00:01:29.560 I didn't watch it.
00:01:30.180 Was it like a train wreck?
00:01:31.760 You don't need to go back and watch it.
00:01:33.340 I don't think you're missing anything.
00:01:35.340 I'm surprised that I was invited back.
00:01:36.400 You've successfully promoted it better than, probably better than our social media desk
00:01:41.300 did, but I am here.
00:01:43.320 You guys are both our token Albertans.
00:01:45.700 How have things been in my, one of my favorite, well, I don't want to pick favorites now because
00:01:49.940 then the Ontarians are going to say a game of me, but a province that I love.
00:01:53.220 How are things over there?
00:01:54.760 Things here are hectic as always.
00:01:56.460 If I could be so bold as to tease my show on Saturday, there's been some interesting
00:02:02.540 developments with the COVID-19 vaccine, the United Conservative Party board has actually
00:02:06.660 decided to take a stand against the COVID-19 vaccine and they're urging the premier to
00:02:10.540 amend the policy so that it's not being recommended for kids anymore, which I think is a, is a
00:02:14.060 pretty big stance that they're taking and it's a pretty interesting development.
00:02:16.960 So I'll be covering that on Saturday.
00:02:18.500 If any of you viewers want to head over to my show Saturday afternoon to take a look at
00:02:21.640 that.
00:02:22.900 All right.
00:02:23.580 An unscheduled PSA for the, for the Alberta roundup.
00:02:27.260 Isaac, how are things in your corner of the world province?
00:02:29.820 Yeah.
00:02:30.020 I don't know how it's going in Calgary there, Rachel, but it's been a lot of
00:02:32.540 pouring rain all day here in Edmonton, which is good, especially with the fires going on
00:02:38.580 in Fort McMurray, though it's obviously further from Edmonton, but yeah, the rain is a welcome
00:02:43.400 sign for the Alberta wildfires that have been plaguing the province.
00:02:48.580 And despite all of them, except one being man-made, I'm glad you mentioned the fires.
00:02:55.060 I should have pulled the clip, but Justin Trudeau earlier was saying like Canada is burning
00:02:59.920 and Pierre Paulyev is happy with Canada burning because he supports the carbon tax being repealed.
00:03:04.520 And I'm like, wow, you're, um, you're just like taking it right up to like drama teacher
00:03:08.200 grade, uh, grade 11 there.
00:03:09.780 Uh, in any event, the climate change debate in Canada brings us all sorts of fun things.
00:03:14.960 Uh, the most cringeworthy of them all.
00:03:18.400 No, it's not the carbon tax.
00:03:20.040 It's not the plastic straw ban.
00:03:21.920 Uh, it's not even the fact that the government spent $3 million sending a delegation to Dubai
00:03:26.700 for the COP28 climate summit.
00:03:29.000 It was specifically what happened at the Canada pavilion at the climate summit for the UN COP28
00:03:37.160 in Dubai.
00:03:38.140 This was $1.3 million that was spent on hosting a Canada pavilion to showcase Canada.
00:03:44.500 And you think, okay, what are we going to do to show Canada off to the world?
00:03:47.940 Are we going to serve them poutine?
00:03:49.700 Are we going to put up a hockey game?
00:03:51.180 Are we going to show a reel of all the great comedians from Canada, show them some John Candy
00:03:56.100 and some Dan Aykroyd, or are we going to showcase the best of Canadian music?
00:04:02.280 They chose that option.
00:04:07.160 All right, I don't even know what it says.
00:04:15.340 Climate disinformation, get that immunization.
00:04:19.280 The vaccine for bad meme infiltration.
00:04:22.400 Climate misinformation, it leads to polarization, which leads to radical conspiracy ideation.
00:04:28.860 Simultaneous translation between conspiracy theories and violent means of change embracement.
00:04:34.660 Economic incentives or ideological basis.
00:04:38.240 It doesn't matter, because either way, it's still disinformation.
00:04:42.080 Climate change is upon us, and emissions are like a bomb.
00:04:45.120 As the wave of increasing heat carries on and on, the wave of disinformation keeps on getting
00:04:50.860 shared online.
00:04:52.200 Trapped by the lab of Marie-Yves Carignan from Université Sherbrooke.
00:04:56.800 According to her book, the anti-government left and right now share a yearbook.
00:05:01.420 And when it comes to floods, droughts, and wildfires, even today's environmentalists can
00:05:06.220 be climate deniers.
00:05:07.760 Those are the yoga QAnon people up in the mix. 0.95
00:05:11.060 Marie-Yves tracks the patterns with the acronym FLICK.
00:05:14.480 False X-words, fallacious logic, unrealistic expectations.
00:05:18.460 Cherry-picking and conspiracy theory ideation.
00:05:21.180 That's FLICK.
00:05:21.660 Advertisers can help us find a fix.
00:05:24.280 The climate host is exposed.
00:05:26.080 Brought to you by Wix.
00:05:27.380 From the false promotion of bad pollutions and tricks.
00:05:30.680 To the outright denialism saying it doesn't exist.
00:05:33.860 There's a reason for the IPCC.
00:05:36.320 It doesn't make assumptions.
00:05:37.960 Make your advertising conscious.
00:05:39.580 Take it from Jake Dubbins.
00:05:41.080 Yes, we need free speech to get the facts in the fight.
00:05:43.680 But like Jake said, ad revenue is not a human right.
00:05:46.940 You know the exchange rate is bad.
00:05:51.640 That was 50 Canadian cent right there.
00:05:54.400 50 Canadian cent is worth a lot less than regular old 50 cent. 0.50
00:05:59.340 Boy, that was...
00:06:01.280 I mean, I don't want to say it cost us $1.3 million,
00:06:04.240 but it certainly cost a fair bit.
00:06:07.680 We flew Baba Brinkman, the Canadian rapper,
00:06:12.300 and coincidentally son of a Liberal member of Parliament.
00:06:15.220 So this is if you're a Liberal MP
00:06:17.220 and you need to get your son employed,
00:06:18.840 you can say just like make a rap so bad
00:06:21.300 that Eminem will just like, you know,
00:06:25.220 want to just cross the border and replace him perhaps.
00:06:28.940 That, yeah, I don't know which of you is the rap aficionado.
00:06:32.840 I'm, no one has ever looked at me and said that I'm, you know, hip.
00:06:37.620 But just what the hell was that?
00:06:41.600 I think Isaac's probably the one to go to here.
00:06:44.500 You know, I'm a little too old for rap music, Isaac.
00:06:47.460 Take it away.
00:06:48.580 Yeah, honestly, just at the start of his set, let's call it,
00:06:53.040 he said, I don't even know the words,
00:06:54.860 but then he seemed pretty well versed
00:06:56.580 in the kind of the flow of the song.
00:06:58.380 So I was like, does this guy really not know the words?
00:07:00.440 Because I feel like if I were just reading the screen
00:07:02.420 and listening to the beat for the first time
00:07:04.980 and tried to rap that song,
00:07:06.480 I probably wouldn't have done nearly as good of a job as him,
00:07:09.240 like from the actual flow perspective.
00:07:13.120 But yeah, I mean, Canada does have some pretty big name rappers,
00:07:18.020 notably Drake, The Weeknd, I guess he's kind of a rapper.
00:07:21.580 Yeah, that was the weekday we just saw.
00:07:23.780 That was the weekday.
00:07:26.800 And yeah, he didn't get to the Stephen Guibault part,
00:07:29.440 but he gives Stephen Guibault a special shout out.
00:07:31.280 So that's nice.
00:07:32.440 Yeah, it was funny.
00:07:33.140 I think I saw yesterday on X,
00:07:34.980 Guibault was tweeting about the Fort Mac fires
00:07:36.760 and of course climate change.
00:07:38.440 And I'm like, I'm pretty sure all those fires were man-made,
00:07:41.600 but I don't see why we're attributing that to climate change.
00:07:44.540 That kind of applies to what he was rapping about just now
00:07:47.440 in the song, climate misinformation.
00:07:49.640 Is that not the same thing?
00:07:51.700 Stephen Guibault is funnier than Johnny Carson.
00:07:54.240 He doesn't tell us that the fires were actually arson.
00:07:56.720 I don't know.
00:07:57.500 I'm keeping my day job.
00:07:59.360 Rachel, what's your arts correspondent take on this?
00:08:02.600 You know, I don't really even want to make fun of him
00:08:05.740 because you can really tell he gave that his all.
00:08:07.760 Like he really-
00:08:08.780 It wasn't as bad as I expected it to be.
00:08:10.960 For a white guy, it wasn't half bad.
00:08:12.820 And you could tell he was 100% into it.
00:08:14.660 He obviously spent a lot of time memorizing those words.
00:08:19.000 He found a rhyme for University of Sherbrooke.
00:08:21.160 Like that's never been done in the history of music.
00:08:23.440 He really gave it his all.
00:08:24.620 And while I don't really want to make fun of him
00:08:26.460 because it just feels a bit mean
00:08:27.460 because of just how hard he tried,
00:08:29.180 I'm going to because ultimately it was my tax dollars
00:08:31.740 that paid for it.
00:08:32.600 And it was a waste of money 1.00
00:08:33.480 and it was still fairly stupid. 0.99
00:08:35.160 But, you know, we were just talking about Justin Trudeau 0.99
00:08:38.300 and how he was, you know, he's always so theatrical
00:08:40.640 with the things he says about Pierre Polyev.
00:08:42.420 And I think when we're looking at the Liberal Party
00:08:44.240 as a whole, they're just really,
00:08:45.740 they seem stuck in high school.
00:08:47.640 This is something that I would have done in high school.
00:08:49.680 Like I remember we, like my friends and I
00:08:51.180 would come up with raps
00:08:52.080 and we would do them in class.
00:08:53.280 And, you know, we thought we were really cool and clever
00:08:55.100 and the rest of the class enjoyed it.
00:08:56.600 But we're well beyond that now.
00:08:58.920 The Liberals really seem, you know,
00:09:00.300 stuck in their youth, unable to grow up.
00:09:02.040 So that's pretty much what we're seeing here.
00:09:04.180 I looked him up on Wikipedia
00:09:07.040 because I'm like, if we're going to do this,
00:09:08.400 let's go all in.
00:09:09.640 And apparently he's made like a name for himself
00:09:12.420 doing science rap and environment and ecology rap,
00:09:17.440 which to be honest,
00:09:18.820 he's like the greatest capitalist known to mankind
00:09:21.180 because he knows that all of these like UN climate summits
00:09:24.420 around the world want to be hip and cool.
00:09:26.380 And they're like, well, we have a guy
00:09:27.840 who will rap about the climate.
00:09:29.500 He'll rap about the IPCC.
00:09:30.780 Why wouldn't we want to do that?
00:09:32.140 That's great. 0.97
00:09:32.700 Like, so he's done something so ridiculous 0.94
00:09:35.260 that he's guaranteed he's the only person 0.97
00:09:37.880 in the world that can do it,
00:09:39.360 which to which I say,
00:09:40.600 very, very much rewarding him
00:09:43.400 for the entrepreneurialism.
00:09:45.420 Yeah.
00:09:45.500 Sometimes I regret that I'm someone
00:09:46.800 who has such strong morals
00:09:48.060 and would just despise taking government money
00:09:50.100 for frivolous reasons.
00:09:50.920 Because think about how wealthy
00:09:51.840 we could all be otherwise.
00:09:53.680 Doesn't take much.
00:09:55.480 Yeah.
00:09:55.880 So that video,
00:09:57.000 so I only learned about this,
00:09:58.380 just to give the context,
00:09:59.360 that happened in December,
00:10:00.700 November, December.
00:10:01.700 And I only learned about it
00:10:03.400 because there was an order paper question
00:10:06.060 that I think Dan Mazur,
00:10:07.220 the liberal or the conservative MP
00:10:08.740 had filed to get the costs
00:10:10.720 for the Dubai delegation,
00:10:13.720 for the Canadian delegation to Dubai.
00:10:15.180 And the Canadian Taxpayers Federation
00:10:17.020 poured through this as well.
00:10:17.980 And they found that we had
00:10:19.100 at the Canada Pavilion this rap.
00:10:20.740 And the guy uploaded it himself.
00:10:22.960 Like he was very proud of this.
00:10:24.400 And then I looked into it.
00:10:25.260 He's founded a company called Event Rap,
00:10:28.440 a custom rap agency
00:10:30.120 featuring a roster of independent hip-hop artists
00:10:32.480 who write and perform original works
00:10:34.180 for live events.
00:10:36.060 So we should get like at True North Nation,
00:10:38.380 we should get some like independent media rap.
00:10:40.940 I don't know what rhymes with defund the CBC.
00:10:45.100 Give me, Isaac, say something
00:10:46.620 and I'll try and think of this.
00:10:49.620 You want me to find a rhyme for defund the CBC?
00:10:52.020 Well, you can.
00:10:52.400 And I was just saying more talk
00:10:53.420 while I try to come up with one.
00:10:54.660 She's hot like double D's. 1.00
00:10:57.160 Oh my God.
00:10:58.760 What?
00:11:00.680 That's not the road I would have gone.
00:11:02.280 Yeah, that's, yeah.
00:11:03.480 Rachel's getting our clean tag 1.00
00:11:04.760 taken away more and more.
00:11:05.620 I can say it.
00:11:06.500 I can say it.
00:11:07.420 Defund the CBC.
00:11:08.640 It's paid for by you and me.
00:11:11.060 Oh, that's good.
00:11:12.340 I mean, I'm hearing a bit of like Jackson 5 though.
00:11:14.860 Like ABC, defund the CBC.
00:11:18.080 Yeah, what rhymes with Rosie Barton? 0.94
00:11:19.960 They don't deserve no money free.
00:11:22.400 Okay, wait.
00:11:25.500 Okay, we got to find rhymes for Mansbridge,
00:11:27.780 rhymes for Rosie Barton.
00:11:31.540 You know, when we defund the CBC,
00:11:33.820 we'll be carton away their property,
00:11:36.200 including Rosie. 0.98
00:11:37.040 But no, that sounded weird.
00:11:38.820 This is why we need to leave it to the pros
00:11:40.940 like Mr. Baba Brinkman.
00:11:43.120 Okay.
00:11:44.280 $1.3 million for the Canada Pavilion.
00:11:46.600 Do you feel that Canada has been sufficiently sold
00:11:48.820 on the world stage now?
00:11:49.960 Sorry, I'm looking up words on rhyme dictionary.
00:11:56.000 Isaac, take it away.
00:11:57.960 I like the, by the way,
00:11:58.960 I love that we're doing the preparation for the show
00:12:01.240 midway through the show.
00:12:03.340 None of us knew we were going to go down this road
00:12:05.220 enough to think ahead of time
00:12:06.440 of like maybe plan something out.
00:12:07.900 Next week we'll have to come prepared
00:12:08.880 with like a full wrap,
00:12:10.040 a full True North wrap.
00:12:12.060 Yeah, I started preparing about three minutes
00:12:13.740 before the show
00:12:14.360 because I had to try on a bunch of different shows.
00:12:17.380 All right.
00:12:17.760 So if you're in the comments
00:12:19.120 and you want to come up with your
00:12:20.140 defund the CBC rhymes,
00:12:22.240 I think actually Isaac,
00:12:23.420 I think was the best at this so far
00:12:25.780 because he actually came up with something.
00:12:27.020 I'm still like trying to like find a rhyme
00:12:28.960 for Peter Mansbridge.
00:12:30.440 You know, there's not a lot of results on here
00:12:32.240 for Barton.
00:12:35.300 Well, Barton, like carton, like milk.
00:12:37.580 Oh, I got it.
00:12:38.160 I got it.
00:12:38.860 Let's get rid of Rosemary Barton. 1.00
00:12:40.680 Around the truth,
00:12:41.660 she's always darting.
00:12:43.700 Oh, okay.
00:12:45.100 I mean, I like Rosie Barton. 0.78
00:12:46.160 I don't think we need to like, 0.97
00:12:46.980 you know, crap on her, 0.98
00:12:47.880 but I admire the rhyme at least. 0.99
00:12:49.880 So well done, Rachel.
00:12:51.260 You're holding your own.
00:12:52.420 You're going to be repping
00:12:53.680 the West Side wrap thing before long.
00:12:57.380 I should, we should just,
00:12:58.400 everyone has laughed.
00:12:59.740 No one is watching the show anymore
00:13:01.320 except for someone who like
00:13:03.020 walked away to the kitchen
00:13:04.140 and left their YouTube
00:13:05.860 or Spotify running.
00:13:07.680 But anyway,
00:13:08.480 I believe we can move on.
00:13:11.140 And mercifully to the next topic here.
00:13:13.940 Other things that we are spending
00:13:15.520 millions and millions of dollars on.
00:13:17.160 Rachel, why don't you take us away on this?
00:13:19.420 So taxpayers are on the hook
00:13:22.200 for $224 per day
00:13:24.240 to claimants for illegal immigrants
00:13:26.620 for their housing, food,
00:13:28.220 and essential items.
00:13:29.640 This was revealed
00:13:30.440 from Conservative MP Leanne Root
00:13:32.580 who asked the government
00:13:33.400 last week what goods and services
00:13:35.400 are being provided
00:13:36.200 to asylum seekers in Canada,
00:13:37.820 which means those
00:13:38.680 without approved applications.
00:13:39.740 And she published
00:13:40.660 the order paper response question,
00:13:42.420 which found that the federal government
00:13:44.500 has approved $140 per night
00:13:46.920 per room
00:13:48.420 and roughly $84 per day for food
00:13:50.500 totaling $224 per claimant.
00:13:53.640 And I'm looking for the full amount here.
00:13:57.880 So that's an all-time high of,
00:13:59.800 there's over 42,000
00:14:01.640 pending refugee claims
00:14:02.920 in Canada right now.
00:14:05.040 So if you're wondering,
00:14:06.180 you know, you can't make ends meet,
00:14:07.160 I hear from a lot of people
00:14:08.000 who are about $100 short a month
00:14:09.620 for making groceries.
00:14:10.540 Where's all our money going?
00:14:11.720 This is where it's going.
00:14:12.720 It's going to illegals 1.00
00:14:13.840 who have no right to be in Canada, 0.58
00:14:15.820 putting them up at hotels,
00:14:16.860 and we're paying for their food.
00:14:18.760 Andrew, what do you make of this?
00:14:20.440 Yeah, it's, I mean,
00:14:21.280 you touch on the dollar value issue,
00:14:23.300 but the one thing,
00:14:23.960 and I pointed this out
00:14:24.600 on my show earlier this week,
00:14:25.740 that's important to keep in mind as well
00:14:27.260 is that it's a symptom of another problem
00:14:30.740 because the cost per day on asylum seekers
00:14:33.620 is a consequence of the number
00:14:36.780 of asylum seekers we have.
00:14:38.080 So many that they have to be put up
00:14:39.400 in hotels and fed.
00:14:40.820 And the reason we have so many
00:14:41.860 is because the government's
00:14:42.800 not actually securing the border.
00:14:44.440 So we are forced into this
00:14:46.840 because they're not dealing
00:14:48.100 with the other problem,
00:14:49.920 which is people who are in the United States,
00:14:51.820 which is a safe, free democratic nation,
00:14:53.960 whatever you may think
00:14:54.580 of Joe Biden's politics,
00:14:55.760 that say, okay,
00:14:57.080 I think I'll have a better go in Canada.
00:14:58.860 So they enter Canada illegally, 0.94
00:15:00.840 claim asylum.
00:15:02.020 Most of these claims
00:15:03.060 are going to get denied
00:15:03.880 and the people are going to be sent home.
00:15:05.500 But while they are waiting
00:15:07.120 for that decision,
00:15:08.100 which could be months,
00:15:08.960 it could be well over a year,
00:15:10.420 we're paying for them
00:15:11.440 and loading up these hotels.
00:15:13.200 And this has been an issue
00:15:14.180 that's been ongoing for,
00:15:16.000 I mean, it's been ongoing for years,
00:15:17.300 but for a decade,
00:15:18.460 it's been at, I'd say,
00:15:20.100 unsustainable levels.
00:15:21.960 And I know you in Alberta
00:15:23.800 are not dealing with this
00:15:24.700 as much as in Ontario,
00:15:25.960 but you look at places
00:15:26.780 like Niagara Falls
00:15:27.700 and I know like you have family
00:15:29.800 in that area, Rachel,
00:15:30.720 like it's absolutely crazy.
00:15:32.560 And you have hotels
00:15:33.360 that have just been commandeered
00:15:34.700 by this asylum program.
00:15:36.700 What do you make of this, Isaac?
00:15:38.680 Yeah, that does seem crazy to me,
00:15:40.300 specifically the fact that,
00:15:41.960 let's say the majority
00:15:43.560 of these asylum seekers 1.00
00:15:45.280 will be essentially deported.
00:15:47.260 So what reasoning would Canada
00:15:51.480 have to essentially pay
00:15:52.920 for their cost of living
00:15:54.260 in the interim?
00:15:55.440 But at the same time,
00:15:56.740 I'm trying to find,
00:15:59.220 I guess, the alternative,
00:16:01.020 which would be maybe
00:16:02.960 they wouldn't get paid for
00:16:03.980 and then they're homeless.
00:16:04.660 I remember I was writing
00:16:05.420 an article earlier
00:16:06.480 about homelessness
00:16:08.320 and hospital stays.
00:16:10.200 But as background,
00:16:11.220 I saw True North's exclusive
00:16:12.340 that said that nearly half
00:16:14.820 of Ottawa's homeless shelters
00:16:17.800 were filled with new refugees
00:16:19.980 and asylum claimants.
00:16:21.580 So that would obviously
00:16:23.700 be exacerbated
00:16:24.720 if the funding were pulled.
00:16:25.920 So I don't know.
00:16:26.420 What do you think
00:16:27.060 the best alternative would be
00:16:29.820 as opposed to paying
00:16:30.880 for these asylum claimants
00:16:33.080 to stay in hotels?
00:16:34.760 Well, I think it kind of goes back
00:16:35.780 to what Andrew was saying
00:16:36.680 about how the issue is
00:16:37.600 that these are large people
00:16:38.500 who are coming in
00:16:39.280 across the U.S. border.
00:16:41.080 So, I mean,
00:16:41.320 if this is foot traffic
00:16:42.140 that we're looking at,
00:16:42.780 I think the best thing
00:16:43.440 would be to reinforce
00:16:44.340 those borders
00:16:44.860 so they're not coming
00:16:45.420 across the border at all
00:16:46.480 because even if they are
00:16:47.900 being deported,
00:16:48.360 we're also paying
00:16:48.900 for those flights
00:16:49.740 to get them back
00:16:50.720 to their home countries.
00:16:51.580 So I think we could look
00:16:52.660 at saving a lot of money
00:16:53.540 if we're just stopping
00:16:54.160 these people right
00:16:54.740 at the U.S. border
00:16:55.320 and we're not letting
00:16:56.140 them into Canada.
00:16:57.080 You know, the U.S.
00:16:57.760 obviously has its own
00:16:58.600 border crisis
00:16:59.300 and I think there's
00:17:00.560 a certain extent
00:17:01.180 at which we're going
00:17:01.660 to be feeling the effects
00:17:02.380 of that because they just
00:17:03.160 have millions
00:17:04.040 of illegal migrants 0.98
00:17:04.940 pouring through
00:17:05.740 their southern border
00:17:06.460 and so people are being
00:17:07.640 pushed upwards
00:17:08.200 throughout the country.
00:17:08.900 So this is actually
00:17:09.540 going to become probably
00:17:10.220 a bigger and bigger problem
00:17:11.220 if we don't take some action
00:17:12.760 and seal that border
00:17:13.740 sooner rather than later.
00:17:16.240 Yeah, and I think that,
00:17:17.860 again, when we're stuck
00:17:19.340 with it once they're here,
00:17:20.560 so you have to go back
00:17:21.600 to basics and actually
00:17:22.560 secure the border
00:17:23.220 in the first place.
00:17:23.860 Like the whole point
00:17:24.560 of what caused a lot of this
00:17:26.500 was this thing called
00:17:27.240 the safe third country.
00:17:28.180 I know I always say
00:17:28.700 we have to keep off
00:17:29.320 the record fun
00:17:29.920 but then I have to
00:17:30.420 explain things sometimes.
00:17:31.880 It's the safe
00:17:32.440 third country agreement
00:17:33.180 which basically said
00:17:33.940 it was a deal
00:17:34.500 between Canada and the U.S.
00:17:35.680 that if you land
00:17:36.240 in one country,
00:17:37.140 it's considered a safe country
00:17:38.800 so you can't then
00:17:39.900 go to another one.
00:17:41.480 The loophole in that
00:17:42.760 was if you cross
00:17:43.980 the border illegally.
00:17:45.460 So that was what
00:17:46.160 was causing this.
00:17:47.000 You couldn't actually
00:17:47.680 drive from Windsor
00:17:49.020 to Detroit
00:17:49.640 or Detroit to Windsor
00:17:51.040 at the sanctioned
00:17:52.360 border crossing
00:17:53.120 and do this
00:17:53.800 but if you do it illegally,
00:17:55.220 you were able to
00:17:56.380 and then Canada
00:17:56.900 has to do it.
00:17:57.780 Because you're right, Isaac,
00:17:58.560 once you talk about
00:17:59.540 the options that people have
00:18:01.000 that Canada has,
00:18:02.340 you either put them in jail
00:18:03.700 which is a legitimate option
00:18:06.260 available to government
00:18:07.020 but it's more expensive.
00:18:08.040 Housing inmates in jail
00:18:09.480 is costlier
00:18:10.840 and let's face it,
00:18:11.720 it's also,
00:18:12.400 you raise moral questions
00:18:13.580 depending on the asylum seeker
00:18:15.720 and so you're left with that
00:18:17.680 or leaving them homeless
00:18:18.400 or this kind of quasi measure
00:18:20.640 of putting them up in a hotel.
00:18:22.560 But then the other issue
00:18:23.400 we get to
00:18:23.960 is if their claims are denied,
00:18:26.460 are we actually tracking them down
00:18:28.260 and deporting them?
00:18:29.120 And Canada has an abysmal,
00:18:30.660 abysmal record
00:18:31.420 at deportation.
00:18:32.960 So like all of these
00:18:33.720 are flowing
00:18:34.200 from that initial border issue.
00:18:36.400 Yeah, I still maintain that.
00:18:41.620 When no one says anything,
00:18:42.800 I assume I just made so much sense
00:18:44.260 that no one possibly
00:18:45.080 can add or refute anything.
00:18:47.060 That's where I was at, yeah.
00:18:49.140 You really did hit the nail on the head.
00:18:50.960 I just maintain,
00:18:51.540 I think the best thing
00:18:52.160 would be to really seal
00:18:52.980 those borders.
00:18:53.820 This isn't an issue
00:18:54.500 I've covered a ton of.
00:18:55.480 I think we've seen a lot
00:18:56.540 of good stuff from Lindsay Shepard
00:18:57.520 on this.
00:18:58.140 As you've mentioned, Andrew,
00:18:59.240 like I'm out here in Alberta.
00:19:00.400 It's true.
00:19:00.840 This issue is particularly bad.
00:19:02.220 I know in Quebec,
00:19:03.260 I know in Niagara Falls,
00:19:04.380 certainly we've seen
00:19:05.200 some of the effects
00:19:05.880 of just the high levels
00:19:06.860 of migrants living in that area
00:19:08.180 and how that trickles down
00:19:09.340 to the whole Niagara region.
00:19:10.560 And we even see a rise
00:19:11.320 in things like crime
00:19:12.580 and car accidents.
00:19:13.360 There's just a whole lot
00:19:14.280 of issues going on.
00:19:15.580 But I mean,
00:19:16.060 at the end of the day,
00:19:16.580 this is also affecting
00:19:17.560 Western Canada as well
00:19:19.840 because what we're seeing
00:19:20.740 in places like Toronto
00:19:21.900 is we're seeing
00:19:22.720 just a flood of immigrants 0.99
00:19:24.100 and not all of them illegal.
00:19:25.660 Many are legal.
00:19:26.780 Many of them are allowed
00:19:27.340 into the country,
00:19:27.820 but it's just so many people
00:19:28.840 in one region
00:19:29.440 that we're seeing
00:19:30.120 a lot of people look,
00:19:30.940 okay, where else in Canada
00:19:32.040 can I flee to?
00:19:33.380 And many people
00:19:33.940 are coming out to Calgary
00:19:35.000 and Alberta was once seen
00:19:37.180 as a place
00:19:37.520 with the Alberta advantage.
00:19:38.420 You'd come here,
00:19:39.060 you'd get to keep
00:19:39.960 more of your money,
00:19:40.880 you'd have a lower cost of living,
00:19:42.540 you'd have a better chance
00:19:43.220 at owning a home.
00:19:44.160 And a lot of that
00:19:44.880 just isn't really the case
00:19:45.720 anymore for Western Canada.
00:19:46.860 I know that there's been
00:19:47.460 some frustration
00:19:48.120 with Alberta Premier
00:19:49.200 Daniel Smith
00:19:49.760 and her Alberta
00:19:50.560 is calling campaign
00:19:51.380 as a result
00:19:52.060 because people would really
00:19:53.180 like to slow down
00:19:54.100 and say,
00:19:54.420 let's stop welcoming people
00:19:55.580 here for the time being
00:19:56.460 and really just kind of
00:19:57.560 let things even out
00:19:58.840 before we continue to say,
00:20:00.060 hey, why don't you come
00:20:00.760 to Alberta?
00:20:01.300 We're looking to grow
00:20:01.900 our population,
00:20:02.900 we're looking to grow
00:20:03.340 our economy.
00:20:04.160 So when we see
00:20:05.240 this many people
00:20:05.760 flood into a region,
00:20:06.480 it really does put
00:20:07.260 so many pressures
00:20:08.060 on every aspect of life,
00:20:09.620 housing, schools,
00:20:10.820 hospitals, everything.
00:20:13.480 Yeah, this from the
00:20:14.580 legal migration aspect of it,
00:20:16.760 I mean, Alberta
00:20:17.440 has been setting
00:20:18.120 records on pretty much
00:20:20.620 a monthly basis
00:20:21.820 for interprovincial migration,
00:20:23.200 which I guess
00:20:24.740 can be expected
00:20:25.360 as the cost of living crisis
00:20:26.660 rises with Alberta
00:20:28.640 being one of the most
00:20:29.660 not only affordable provinces
00:20:31.220 but where you can also
00:20:32.180 make the most amount
00:20:32.940 of money, right?
00:20:33.980 When you balance
00:20:34.600 those two things,
00:20:35.380 it's definitely a good place
00:20:36.840 to be economically,
00:20:38.060 which I think is why
00:20:38.820 so many people
00:20:39.780 from eastern provinces
00:20:40.600 are looking to migrate here.
00:20:42.940 Yeah, very well said.
00:20:44.600 On that note,
00:20:45.900 Isaac, since you're already
00:20:46.760 talking, why don't you
00:20:47.580 kick off our next story here?
00:20:49.500 Yeah, so this next one's
00:20:50.900 pretty fun.
00:20:51.840 Well, fun.
00:20:52.560 Yeah, Andrew was saying
00:20:53.560 to come up with a fun story
00:20:55.260 and I thought, well, anger's...
00:20:56.900 I said light, light story,
00:20:58.560 but anyway.
00:20:59.400 I was thinking anger
00:21:00.220 might be an antonym of fun.
00:21:01.580 Well, not exactly,
00:21:02.540 but anyways.
00:21:04.160 Yeah, so basically,
00:21:06.100 anger in Canada
00:21:06.880 towards government,
00:21:08.380 economy, and policies
00:21:09.580 has reached a record high.
00:21:11.920 This from the Polera's 1.00
00:21:13.340 Rage Index,
00:21:15.320 which they have been tracking
00:21:16.260 for about two years.
00:21:19.020 And interestingly,
00:21:19.580 this monthly edition
00:21:21.260 of the index
00:21:22.180 had a specific focus
00:21:23.580 focus on the budget
00:21:24.860 with some data
00:21:26.440 that was quite surprising
00:21:28.000 to me.
00:21:28.980 For example,
00:21:29.520 I had seen previous polls
00:21:30.700 which showed that
00:21:31.560 21% of Canadians,
00:21:33.100 I know a low number,
00:21:34.080 supported the federal budget,
00:21:35.360 but this Rage Index
00:21:36.180 showed an even lower one
00:21:37.720 wherein only 9%
00:21:39.300 of Canadians
00:21:39.960 had a positive outlook
00:21:40.980 on the budget.
00:21:41.680 This was separated by
00:21:42.660 pleased or moderately happy
00:21:44.360 and very happy
00:21:45.280 with the latter,
00:21:46.580 only 1% of Canadians
00:21:47.960 belonging to.
00:21:49.780 And it also broke down
00:21:50.820 political parties,
00:21:52.040 which was cool.
00:21:52.580 As you might expect,
00:21:54.540 conservative supporters
00:21:56.480 were the angriest
00:21:57.460 and liberals
00:21:58.020 the least angry.
00:22:00.980 But what might be
00:22:02.060 more interesting
00:22:02.480 is that the Bloc Québécois
00:22:04.040 and the NDP
00:22:04.800 pretty much mirrored
00:22:06.180 each other
00:22:06.600 in percentage of anger
00:22:08.280 on this index.
00:22:09.020 I think it was 54%
00:22:09.840 and 53%,
00:22:10.460 if I remember correctly.
00:22:11.460 But you might have expected
00:22:12.960 less,
00:22:15.660 or sorry,
00:22:16.060 more anger
00:22:16.500 from the Bloc Québécois
00:22:17.480 supporters
00:22:17.860 and less so
00:22:18.520 from the NDP.
00:22:19.140 I guess I'm curious
00:22:22.360 when Andrew said
00:22:23.320 lighter story,
00:22:24.860 what about you were like,
00:22:26.040 I'm going to talk
00:22:26.640 about the rage index.
00:22:29.240 Andrew,
00:22:31.880 your audio
00:22:32.420 is not working.
00:22:34.540 And,
00:22:34.680 oh,
00:22:35.480 oh,
00:22:35.920 yeah,
00:22:36.140 no,
00:22:36.280 I thought I was muted.
00:22:37.160 And no,
00:22:37.780 I said it's okay,
00:22:39.160 but rage index
00:22:40.160 is just a funny name.
00:22:41.480 I guess that's why.
00:22:42.660 So I was just being
00:22:43.820 like childishly immature
00:22:44.800 about it.
00:22:47.120 Yeah,
00:22:47.480 well,
00:22:47.880 I mean,
00:22:48.220 I find this study
00:22:49.020 like a little bit depressing.
00:22:50.240 I mean,
00:22:50.480 I think Isaac and I
00:22:51.260 are both in this category,
00:22:52.120 although Isaac just got a house
00:22:53.240 recently,
00:22:53.600 which is pretty big.
00:22:54.480 Congratulations.
00:22:55.240 But being in that category
00:22:56.900 of younger Canadians
00:22:57.760 who are really feeling
00:22:58.500 the impacts
00:22:59.080 of the Trudeau liberals
00:23:00.520 and their really poor policies
00:23:02.860 and the impact of that
00:23:03.620 on Canadians
00:23:04.160 and those of us
00:23:05.200 who are struggling to,
00:23:06.220 you know,
00:23:06.800 have a newer vehicle
00:23:07.860 or own a home.
00:23:08.780 So I get really worked up
00:23:10.020 when I read stories like this
00:23:11.060 because I'm like,
00:23:11.560 yeah,
00:23:11.720 like I'm there
00:23:12.420 and I'm angry
00:23:13.100 and I'm really pissed off
00:23:14.300 about what the Trudeau liberals
00:23:15.460 are doing to our country.
00:23:16.540 So someone who finds
00:23:17.940 the story a bit lighter
00:23:18.640 maybe,
00:23:19.000 you know,
00:23:19.240 maybe has to take it away
00:23:20.100 here,
00:23:20.320 Andrew.
00:23:21.540 I don't find it lighter per se.
00:23:24.180 I guess it's interesting
00:23:25.540 that it's just so explicit
00:23:26.780 because a lot of people,
00:23:28.600 especially Canadians,
00:23:29.620 really try to mute
00:23:30.500 their emotions
00:23:31.800 and they try to say,
00:23:32.640 well,
00:23:32.880 you know,
00:23:33.060 I'm a little frustrated
00:23:33.840 and how many people,
00:23:34.860 I've spoken to so many
00:23:35.800 over the years
00:23:36.320 who really tried it,
00:23:37.860 like they feel guilty
00:23:38.760 about being dissatisfied
00:23:40.020 where they'll say things like,
00:23:41.180 well,
00:23:41.980 oh well,
00:23:42.400 I know,
00:23:42.740 I mean,
00:23:42.940 I don't have it as bad
00:23:43.900 as other people do
00:23:44.680 and they really do not want
00:23:46.460 to just come out
00:23:46.920 and say it
00:23:47.300 and the fact that now
00:23:47.960 you have people
00:23:48.460 that are explicitly saying,
00:23:50.360 yeah,
00:23:50.520 I'm pissed off,
00:23:51.300 yeah,
00:23:51.440 I'm angry,
00:23:51.880 I think that's actually
00:23:52.620 a sign of just how bad
00:23:53.760 things have gotten.
00:23:55.100 Yeah,
00:23:55.180 I think that's fair,
00:23:55.780 especially when you consider
00:23:56.540 what you said about Canadians
00:23:57.540 typically being not quick
00:23:58.880 to complain
00:23:59.360 and being a little bit
00:23:59.980 more apathetic
00:24:00.640 when it comes to politics
00:24:02.000 but yeah,
00:24:03.080 now that people
00:24:03.520 are really feeling
00:24:04.140 that frustration
00:24:04.720 and willing to voice it
00:24:05.440 and I think,
00:24:06.100 you know,
00:24:06.300 it's not even necessarily
00:24:07.140 saying like,
00:24:08.060 oh,
00:24:08.400 you know,
00:24:08.600 I know other people
00:24:09.060 don't have it as bad
00:24:09.800 but let's compare
00:24:10.360 to where our country
00:24:10.980 was at 10 years ago
00:24:12.280 or our country's declined
00:24:13.440 rapidly in the last 10 years
00:24:14.640 or the cost of living
00:24:15.380 has increased exponentially
00:24:16.300 or the Canadian dollar
00:24:17.200 is worth less
00:24:17.900 or Canadian mental health
00:24:19.340 is poor. 0.68
00:24:21.100 You know,
00:24:21.280 we can study all these metrics
00:24:22.200 and see that they've
00:24:23.340 actually gotten worse
00:24:24.100 over the last 10 years
00:24:24.800 so I think we should
00:24:25.280 really be comparing things
00:24:26.560 to,
00:24:27.120 you know,
00:24:27.360 just even what it was
00:24:28.060 a decade ago
00:24:28.580 and I don't think
00:24:29.040 there's anything wrong
00:24:29.820 with saying,
00:24:30.500 you know,
00:24:31.100 I would like to get back
00:24:31.820 to the Canada that we had,
00:24:32.880 that Canada felt
00:24:33.560 more optimistic,
00:24:34.440 that Canada felt
00:24:35.120 more hopeful
00:24:35.700 and more promising
00:24:36.760 for me and for my family
00:24:38.220 and so I think
00:24:38.940 if you look at it
00:24:39.540 from that way
00:24:39.960 it's actually
00:24:40.340 a very fair metric
00:24:41.240 and even for myself
00:24:42.380 like growing up
00:24:44.120 I didn't necessarily think
00:24:45.360 that we had
00:24:46.060 the most amazing house
00:24:48.120 and now looking at it
00:24:48.860 it's sort of like a dream
00:24:49.780 to think,
00:24:50.540 oh,
00:24:50.600 we had a house
00:24:51.180 with four to five bedrooms
00:24:52.800 and two washrooms
00:24:53.840 and everyone had their own room
00:24:54.700 and we had a little bit
00:24:55.340 of a backyard
00:24:55.880 and,
00:24:56.980 you know,
00:24:57.060 we even had a driveway
00:24:57.880 and a shed out back.
00:24:58.640 Those things are really hard
00:24:59.700 for people to get now
00:25:00.660 and there's nothing wrong
00:25:01.680 with saying
00:25:01.980 I would at least like
00:25:02.640 to be able to offer my kids
00:25:04.000 the same upbringing
00:25:05.520 and the same quality of life
00:25:06.660 that I had growing up
00:25:07.480 and I think
00:25:07.940 we shouldn't accept
00:25:08.820 that we are declining
00:25:09.880 in those metrics
00:25:10.480 as a country
00:25:10.980 when there's no reason
00:25:12.360 that we shouldn't be
00:25:12.980 improving of them
00:25:13.760 that we really should be able
00:25:14.980 to offer our families
00:25:15.720 a better quality of life.
00:25:18.620 Yeah,
00:25:19.140 I think you're right about that
00:25:20.400 and the idea
00:25:21.600 of like the starter home
00:25:22.820 I think
00:25:23.440 it's coming back
00:25:24.600 but there was a time
00:25:25.460 where I think a lot of people
00:25:26.460 I mean,
00:25:26.700 certainly millennials
00:25:27.540 were looking at houses
00:25:30.080 and everyone wanted
00:25:30.960 the giant dream home
00:25:32.160 that no one would really
00:25:33.960 reasonably expect
00:25:34.960 to be able to buy
00:25:36.000 just out of school
00:25:36.680 or whatever.
00:25:37.260 I think it's changing
00:25:38.120 a little bit.
00:25:38.620 I think now you see
00:25:39.340 a lot of younger people
00:25:40.120 that are willing to
00:25:41.120 say I'll be in a less
00:25:42.480 desirable neighborhood
00:25:43.360 or I'll have a really
00:25:44.140 small house
00:25:44.660 but even then
00:25:45.680 they're finding it
00:25:47.060 like just completely
00:25:47.940 unaffordable.
00:25:48.620 Like you look at some
00:25:49.200 of the property listings
00:25:50.000 in places like Toronto
00:25:50.940 and Vancouver
00:25:51.520 and it's like $1 million
00:25:52.820 for a place
00:25:54.200 that you might get shot
00:25:55.060 just going from your bathroom
00:25:56.040 to your bedroom.
00:25:57.700 I mean,
00:25:58.180 it's not even that much
00:25:58.840 better in Calgary though.
00:25:59.740 Like I had Councillor Dan McLean
00:26:00.780 on my show the other week
00:26:01.540 we were talking about
00:26:02.180 the rezoning going on
00:26:03.160 in Calgary
00:26:03.480 which has passed now
00:26:04.340 by the way
00:26:04.820 and I was saying
00:26:05.720 you know,
00:26:06.180 a lot of these
00:26:06.700 modest bungalows
00:26:08.120 are going to be torn down
00:26:08.900 and replaced with
00:26:09.920 duplexes
00:26:11.220 that'll be worth
00:26:11.760 quite a bit
00:26:12.100 and he was like
00:26:12.420 in some cases
00:26:12.900 these duplexes
00:26:13.660 are going to be worth
00:26:14.400 a million dollars.
00:26:15.840 So you're paying
00:26:16.520 a million dollars
00:26:17.320 for duplexes.
00:26:17.880 You've got neighbors
00:26:18.320 on both sides of you.
00:26:19.520 You might have a unit below you.
00:26:20.500 You might even have
00:26:20.980 the unit in the back of you.
00:26:22.180 So you've got absolutely
00:26:22.860 no privacy
00:26:23.500 no space to yourself.
00:26:25.140 I guess we can all agree
00:26:25.820 the World Economic Forum
00:26:27.160 has been more successful
00:26:28.080 than we care to admit.
00:26:30.540 Although Isaac
00:26:31.280 Isaac got a house
00:26:32.120 so maybe he's like
00:26:33.200 sitting on some giant
00:26:34.100 like Scrooge McDuck
00:26:35.620 sized pile of cash
00:26:37.180 that we don't know about.
00:26:38.560 Yeah.
00:26:41.060 Changing topics.
00:26:41.840 He blushes and tugs
00:26:42.620 at his collar.
00:26:43.320 All right, never mind.
00:26:44.480 No, no, no.
00:26:45.000 There was two more things
00:26:45.920 I wanted to mention
00:26:46.540 from the study quickly
00:26:47.400 which firstly
00:26:48.420 this obviously focused
00:26:49.540 on the rage index
00:26:51.120 towards the federal government
00:26:52.160 but they also pulled
00:26:53.160 people from provinces
00:26:54.480 and asked them
00:26:55.140 about their feelings
00:26:55.880 towards the provincial government
00:26:57.080 which was pretty interesting
00:26:58.480 because anger
00:26:59.260 towards the provincial government
00:27:00.460 was highest in Ontario
00:27:01.640 at 60%
00:27:02.500 but anger in British Columbia
00:27:04.620 towards the provincial government
00:27:06.060 grew at the highest rate
00:27:07.140 which was a 16% jump
00:27:09.620 from 38% in January
00:27:11.140 to 54% in April.
00:27:14.380 And then some
00:27:15.180 one other point
00:27:15.960 I did want to mention
00:27:16.620 because this was interesting too
00:27:18.260 you might think
00:27:19.080 that the oldest generation
00:27:20.860 would be the angriest
00:27:22.720 however
00:27:23.100 in this study
00:27:24.940 Gen X
00:27:25.680 which they listed
00:27:26.280 as 44 to 59 years old
00:27:28.340 was the angriest generation 1.00
00:27:29.640 so yeah
00:27:31.160 if you two want to weigh in
00:27:32.100 on that
00:27:32.400 anything that I just said
00:27:33.460 that
00:27:33.660 the provincial thing
00:27:37.180 I find interesting
00:27:38.040 because
00:27:38.540 during COVID
00:27:39.880 I think we saw
00:27:40.540 government
00:27:41.000 was like an amorphous mass
00:27:42.600 like people were mad
00:27:43.760 at government
00:27:44.320 and I don't think
00:27:44.920 they really cared
00:27:45.560 which level it was
00:27:46.620 so in that sense
00:27:48.380 I do find it interesting
00:27:49.380 that Ontario
00:27:49.960 has borne the brunt of it
00:27:51.500 the Gen X one 0.92
00:27:52.780 I'm surprised by
00:27:53.600 because I think
00:27:54.500 Gen Xers 1.00
00:27:55.080 are better off
00:27:56.980 than millennials
00:27:57.600 who are better off
00:27:58.580 than Gen Z 0.99
00:27:59.320 in a lot of ways
00:28:00.300 although I'm not
00:28:00.980 yeah I don't know
00:28:02.220 that's a confusing one
00:28:03.020 the Gen X 0.63
00:28:03.600 would be the generation 1.00
00:28:04.380 just below the baby boomers 0.99
00:28:05.760 and
00:28:06.480 yeah Gen X
00:28:07.080 is the friend
00:28:07.600 the friend's generations
00:28:08.680 I mean Gen Xers 1.00
00:28:09.500 are yeah
00:28:09.900 now like 50 years old
00:28:10.960 so it's the
00:28:11.580 it's the age
00:28:12.440 of the cast of friends
00:28:13.260 basically
00:28:13.720 I'm actually not
00:28:14.560 super surprised by this
00:28:15.680 because the baby boomers 0.99
00:28:17.320 have always been regarded
00:28:18.240 as like the generation 0.89
00:28:19.260 that got all the blessings
00:28:20.180 they have all the wealth
00:28:21.060 I know a lot of people
00:28:21.580 are saying with
00:28:22.200 the Trudeau liberals
00:28:23.320 new changes to taxes
00:28:24.280 are really targeting
00:28:24.980 the baby boomers 0.99
00:28:25.780 and their wealth there
00:28:26.620 and my mom is a Gen X
00:28:28.040 and she always complains 0.99
00:28:28.920 she's like if I had just
00:28:29.660 been born a little bit earlier
00:28:30.840 I would have had a little
00:28:31.660 bit more money
00:28:32.220 the baby boomers 0.99
00:28:32.800 have it so much easier
00:28:33.740 so I feel like the Gen X 0.57
00:28:35.160 generation is maybe
00:28:35.860 that generation 0.76
00:28:36.420 that always feels like
00:28:37.080 they just kind of missed out
00:28:38.080 you know if they've been
00:28:38.760 born a few years earlier
00:28:40.580 maybe they would have had
00:28:41.300 the wealth of the baby boomers 0.97
00:28:42.280 so I don't know
00:28:42.760 I'm not super surprised
00:28:43.660 to see this number
00:28:44.300 they're also still
00:28:45.300 in the generation
00:28:46.000 that they're not retired
00:28:47.660 they're working
00:28:48.600 towards retirement
00:28:49.400 and with the changes
00:28:50.740 that we're seeing
00:28:51.180 with the cost of living crisis
00:28:52.300 they're probably looking
00:28:53.420 at this and thinking
00:28:54.100 huh I'd hope to retire
00:28:55.780 in 5 to 10
00:28:56.960 10 to 15 years
00:28:58.280 and that's not
00:28:59.640 going to happen
00:29:00.120 right now
00:29:00.620 I'm going to actually
00:29:01.080 have to work way past
00:29:02.120 the age I plan to retire at
00:29:03.580 because I'm not putting
00:29:04.960 away as much money
00:29:05.660 into my retirement
00:29:06.320 as I'd hoped to
00:29:07.120 I'm not making as much
00:29:08.220 all those things
00:29:09.460 so I'm not actually
00:29:10.640 super surprised
00:29:11.180 by those numbers
00:29:12.240 yeah I think
00:29:14.200 you've dated yourself
00:29:15.120 by saying that
00:29:15.900 your mother is in Gen X 0.90
00:29:17.460 because you even
00:29:18.160 made me feel old
00:29:18.920 because my parents
00:29:19.540 are boomers
00:29:20.100 I dated myself
00:29:22.220 yeah
00:29:22.960 oh
00:29:23.840 like you've dated yourself
00:29:25.660 you've established
00:29:27.240 not like you've gone out
00:29:28.600 on a romantic date
00:29:29.400 with yourself
00:29:29.820 I mean you've like
00:29:30.500 yes I get it
00:29:31.300 well here I'll just
00:29:31.960 I'm the oldest generation
00:29:33.500 of Gen Z
00:29:34.620 I'm the oldest generation
00:29:35.480 of Zoomers 0.99
00:29:36.100 so
00:29:36.500 okay
00:29:37.340 not that old
00:29:38.280 but
00:29:38.600 anyway what were you
00:29:39.960 saying Isaac
00:29:40.460 yeah sorry
00:29:41.280 just my theory
00:29:42.280 when I initially saw
00:29:43.400 the Gen X thing
00:29:45.640 was that
00:29:46.260 and especially
00:29:47.100 because I've spoken
00:29:48.080 with many people
00:29:48.720 in this generation
00:29:49.320 and the recurring issue
00:29:50.940 I see with them
00:29:52.060 is that they're worried
00:29:52.900 about their children
00:29:53.620 and I think people
00:29:54.900 in this generation
00:29:55.800 probably have children
00:29:56.820 that are teens
00:29:57.780 and maybe even
00:29:58.300 becoming adults
00:29:59.000 like Rachel said
00:29:59.900 your mom's in that
00:30:00.460 I'm becoming an adult
00:30:01.760 so I'm slowly
00:30:03.860 becoming an adult
00:30:04.660 and then yeah
00:30:05.680 so I think
00:30:06.360 they're worried
00:30:06.780 about the generational
00:30:09.620 economic damage
00:30:10.500 that their children
00:30:11.760 are going to have
00:30:12.460 to deal with
00:30:13.780 right
00:30:14.060 so that's my best theory
00:30:15.720 they don't really
00:30:16.160 go into it in the study
00:30:17.020 but
00:30:17.320 yeah
00:30:17.860 the word of the day
00:30:19.220 from or the term
00:30:19.880 of the day
00:30:20.160 from Trudeau
00:30:20.700 for the last two weeks
00:30:21.500 has been generational
00:30:22.320 fairness
00:30:22.820 that's what he
00:30:23.400 thinks he is delivering
00:30:25.260 so take from that
00:30:26.000 what you will
00:30:26.440 this
00:30:27.240 we're jumping a little
00:30:28.460 ahead of the schedule
00:30:29.420 here but
00:30:29.920 this one is interesting
00:30:31.220 Rachel
00:30:31.540 you flagged this 0.98
00:30:32.620 ridiculous shoppers 0.98
00:30:34.140 story 0.97
00:30:34.660 which I think
00:30:35.500 actually speaks
00:30:36.180 to the rage
00:30:36.940 and opportunity
00:30:37.760 explain what
00:30:38.780 happened here
00:30:39.320 so shoppers
00:30:40.980 a location
00:30:41.480 in Toronto
00:30:42.260 Ontario
00:30:43.040 posted a
00:30:44.620 job advertising
00:30:45.840 for a part-time
00:30:46.600 employee
00:30:47.000 the only thing
00:30:48.040 is that it
00:30:48.400 actually isn't
00:30:49.320 a job
00:30:49.780 it's a position
00:30:50.400 for an unpaid
00:30:51.840 volunteer
00:30:52.720 the listing here
00:30:53.840 says
00:30:54.360 this is a part-time
00:30:55.500 on-site volunteer
00:30:56.360 role at shoppers
00:30:57.680 drug mart
00:30:58.040 in Toronto
00:30:58.420 Ontario
00:30:58.840 as a volunteer
00:30:59.780 you will be
00:31:00.720 responsible for
00:31:01.400 assisting with
00:31:01.960 various tasks
00:31:02.800 and providing
00:31:03.600 support to the
00:31:04.220 staff
00:31:04.560 this may include
00:31:05.800 helping customers
00:31:06.460 find products
00:31:07.380 restocking shelves
00:31:08.540 organizing inventory
00:31:09.660 and maintaining a
00:31:10.920 clean and organized
00:31:11.720 store environment
00:31:12.520 your role as a
00:31:13.480 volunteer is crucial
00:31:14.500 in ensuring that
00:31:15.560 our customers have
00:31:16.380 a positive and
00:31:17.180 seamless shopping
00:31:18.000 experience
00:31:18.640 so obviously you
00:31:19.560 can see very
00:31:20.340 clearly from the
00:31:21.080 description there
00:31:21.660 that this is
00:31:22.300 indeed a job
00:31:23.880 something that
00:31:24.460 someone should be
00:31:24.920 paid at least
00:31:25.560 minimum wage for
00:31:26.580 but I think
00:31:27.780 what's happening
00:31:28.280 here is we've
00:31:29.320 all seen those
00:31:30.080 videos
00:31:30.760 well maybe not
00:31:32.300 all of us
00:31:32.700 but I'll describe
00:31:33.520 it for over
00:31:33.860 years haven't
00:31:34.220 seen it
00:31:34.440 if you if you
00:31:35.200 spend a long
00:31:35.540 time on X
00:31:36.140 as all of us
00:31:36.880 on here do
00:31:37.560 you've often
00:31:38.600 seen videos of
00:31:39.700 people in
00:31:40.360 Toronto lining
00:31:41.200 up at job
00:31:41.760 fairs for jobs
00:31:42.640 that something
00:31:43.320 like maybe say
00:31:43.940 Canadian Tire
00:31:44.640 or Tim Hortons
00:31:45.240 or McDonald's
00:31:45.860 and there's just
00:31:46.500 lines of people
00:31:47.500 down the street
00:31:48.240 you look like
00:31:48.760 these lines look
00:31:49.520 hours long and
00:31:50.400 sometimes there's
00:31:51.080 just people hoarding
00:31:52.080 the doors and
00:31:53.280 they're trying to
00:31:53.740 hint in their
00:31:54.220 application and you
00:31:55.140 even seen videos
00:31:55.820 where people are
00:31:56.340 like so
00:31:56.580 we're no longer
00:31:57.320 accepting applications
00:31:58.500 just hundreds and
00:31:59.520 hundreds of people
00:32:00.040 showing up at
00:32:00.580 jobs fairs for
00:32:01.320 very basic
00:32:02.360 minimum wage
00:32:03.520 part-time jobs
00:32:04.680 and so what we're
00:32:05.520 really seeing here
00:32:06.020 is there's just
00:32:06.400 not enough demand
00:32:07.220 and I can't help
00:32:08.340 but think that
00:32:08.800 maybe shoppers
00:32:09.420 thought eh
00:32:09.940 you know there's
00:32:10.700 so much demand
00:32:11.480 obviously this has
00:32:12.200 lowered the value
00:32:13.040 of wages
00:32:13.500 maybe we can get
00:32:14.520 someone who would
00:32:15.000 be desperate
00:32:15.540 enough to just
00:32:16.100 get some
00:32:16.420 experience to put
00:32:17.700 something on their
00:32:18.340 resume that could
00:32:19.340 later on lead to
00:32:20.460 a part-time job
00:32:21.140 since we've got so
00:32:21.820 many people who are
00:32:22.420 clearly out of work
00:32:23.160 that's my
00:32:24.300 suspicion
00:32:24.760 and you know
00:32:25.640 of course this
00:32:26.100 again falls back
00:32:26.820 to immigration
00:32:27.300 the high levels
00:32:27.860 of immigration
00:32:28.280 that we're seeing
00:32:28.700 particularly concentrated
00:32:30.320 in the GTA region
00:32:32.040 that's really what's
00:32:33.320 causing this impact
00:32:34.320 and I know that's my
00:32:35.220 suspicion as to why
00:32:36.120 shoppers posted this
00:32:37.260 position
00:32:37.520 I will say that
00:32:38.920 they have been
00:32:39.620 ruthlessly mocked
00:32:40.820 online for it
00:32:41.660 and they have since
00:32:42.660 pulled the job
00:32:43.520 posting from LinkedIn
00:32:44.700 but what do you guys
00:32:45.620 think?
00:32:46.660 yeah just well just
00:32:47.360 on that they
00:32:47.920 they pulled it
00:32:48.660 corporate weighed
00:32:49.540 in and said it
00:32:50.040 was a mistake
00:32:50.680 and then they also
00:32:51.880 said well it was
00:32:52.580 the the local
00:32:53.300 franchisor because
00:32:54.120 with shoppers the
00:32:54.820 pharmacist owns the
00:32:55.780 store so I don't
00:32:56.760 think it was a
00:32:57.120 mistake I think the
00:32:57.900 pharmacist was being
00:32:59.520 an absolutely you
00:33:01.000 know just predatory
00:33:02.120 human being in
00:33:03.680 trying to get people
00:33:04.660 to work for him for
00:33:05.580 free and I'm hoping
00:33:07.020 that you know the
00:33:07.640 whip is coming down
00:33:08.360 behind the scenes on
00:33:09.440 that but no it's 0.59
00:33:10.540 ridiculous and look I
00:33:11.280 mean internships have 0.99
00:33:12.660 in and of themselves
00:33:14.080 gotten a bad rap as
00:33:15.180 of late but at least
00:33:15.880 an internship is an
00:33:17.420 environment in which
00:33:18.120 you're supposed to
00:33:18.720 learn it's typically
00:33:19.480 part of studying but
00:33:21.680 but even then unpaid
00:33:22.720 internships are very
00:33:23.460 controversial this
00:33:24.160 doesn't even pretend
00:33:24.820 to be that this is
00:33:25.480 just hey come and
00:33:26.080 work for us for free
00:33:26.980 yeah I don't know and
00:33:29.940 I wouldn't necessarily
00:33:30.720 say there's anything
00:33:31.480 wrong with an unpaid
00:33:33.420 internship if you're
00:33:34.000 learning like a
00:33:34.620 specific skill and
00:33:35.460 maybe an industry you
00:33:36.100 want to go to but
00:33:36.580 come on restocking
00:33:37.480 shelves like just give
00:33:38.840 the person $11 $13
00:33:40.120 an hour whatever it
00:33:41.040 is call it a day
00:33:41.900 Isaac what do you
00:33:42.720 think?
00:33:43.700 yeah I've never
00:33:44.300 personally been a
00:33:45.260 supportive of unpaid
00:33:46.940 internships but to
00:33:49.640 play devil's advocate
00:33:50.300 for shoppers here I
00:33:52.580 they didn't hide like
00:33:54.440 it the header of the
00:33:55.840 job the did say
00:33:57.060 volunteer so it
00:33:58.480 wasn't like they were
00:33:59.280 saying oh you can be
00:34:00.380 a whatever their
00:34:01.420 employee title would
00:34:02.680 be called a stock
00:34:04.140 associate let's say
00:34:05.000 and then at the end
00:34:06.080 they're like oh but we
00:34:06.700 won't pay you so at
00:34:07.480 least they were just
00:34:09.760 saying that yeah this is
00:34:10.840 a volunteer role like
00:34:11.720 they weren't trying to
00:34:12.340 hide that at least and
00:34:13.860 I don't know how
00:34:15.420 abnormal it is to post
00:34:16.900 volunteer jobs to
00:34:19.180 LinkedIn but obviously
00:34:21.020 this is a job that you
00:34:22.160 you would normally
00:34:23.040 expect to get paid
00:34:24.220 for I mean it's an
00:34:26.520 interesting business
00:34:27.180 model join a market
00:34:28.880 that's so desperate for
00:34:31.340 work that you can just
00:34:32.340 post jobs that people
00:34:34.900 apply to because I think
00:34:36.000 I've always believed that
00:34:37.000 work gives work in
00:34:38.520 general just gives
00:34:39.260 humans a desire to 0.97
00:34:41.460 live right like it's a
00:34:43.080 really an important
00:34:44.120 part of life in my
00:34:44.880 opinion so yeah just a
00:34:46.880 good business design
00:34:48.200 there which is post your
00:34:50.420 jobs as volunteer work
00:34:51.600 because people are so
00:34:52.620 dying to work that
00:34:54.180 they'll just come work
00:34:54.920 for you for free yeah
00:34:55.920 I think you're actually
00:34:57.700 looking and then
00:34:58.480 there's the capitalist in
00:34:59.660 me that's like well
00:35:00.500 okay if people are
00:35:01.220 willing to do it then
00:35:02.120 you know it's no skin
00:35:02.920 off anyone else's back
00:35:03.840 but that but it's still
00:35:04.980 I think is is really I
00:35:07.860 I hope this hasn't
00:35:08.720 been going on for
00:35:09.420 long in fact I hope
00:35:10.140 this was the first
00:35:10.980 time this has ever
00:35:11.620 been done and we all
00:35:12.360 just see how terrible
00:35:13.080 it is and it never
00:35:14.760 happens again much
00:35:16.680 like I hope the
00:35:17.480 government never puts
00:35:18.600 1.7 million dollars
00:35:20.380 of your and my tax
00:35:22.220 money into funding
00:35:23.780 the manufacture of
00:35:25.100 pasta in Brampton
00:35:26.880 this is a thing that
00:35:29.340 happened this week the
00:35:30.360 federal government
00:35:30.960 announced 1.7 million
00:35:32.160 to Italpasta which is
00:35:34.240 a company that's going
00:35:35.020 to create a massive
00:35:35.980 massive economic benefit
00:35:37.440 with this they're
00:35:37.940 going to take the
00:35:38.480 1.7 million dollars
00:35:40.480 they're going to you
00:35:41.520 know turn it into
00:35:42.540 dough they're going to
00:35:43.260 need it they're going
00:35:43.800 to run it through the
00:35:44.340 machine and at the
00:35:45.000 end of it 10 jobs are
00:35:47.500 created 10 jobs that is
00:35:50.280 a cost per job of
00:35:51.460 170,000 dollars it
00:35:53.380 would be more
00:35:53.980 advantageous I think
00:35:54.800 just to walk around
00:35:55.540 in Brampton and give
00:35:57.400 people $10,000 each
00:35:58.980 until the 1.7 million
00:36:00.140 runs out you'd
00:36:00.760 probably have more
00:36:01.320 economic benefit there
00:36:02.400 Isaac what's your
00:36:03.860 take on this yeah I
00:36:06.080 don't disagree with
00:36:06.820 you about the economic
00:36:07.600 benefit part you give
00:36:09.320 those people the $10,000
00:36:10.180 they'll spend it which
00:36:11.820 I guess is the premise
00:36:13.180 of GDP but I mean
00:36:15.000 $170,000 per job to
00:36:16.880 make pasta here this
00:36:18.440 does seem a bit wild
00:36:20.080 and I mean this isn't
00:36:22.160 so much public sector
00:36:23.200 it is publicly funded
00:36:24.100 but we've seen the
00:36:25.100 public sector job
00:36:27.100 market balloon whereas
00:36:28.860 obviously private has
00:36:29.980 taken a huge hit in
00:36:31.260 Canada over the last
00:36:31.960 few years so yeah and
00:36:34.600 I don't know why why is
00:36:36.200 the federal government
00:36:36.960 funding this project I
00:36:38.960 haven't really looked
00:36:39.500 into the story as much
00:36:40.420 of my life but I don't
00:36:41.760 understand why why the
00:36:43.000 federal government would
00:36:43.800 have their toes in this
00:36:44.960 at all and why are
00:36:46.260 taxpayers paid for these
00:36:47.420 jobs they just want to
00:36:48.860 run around handing out
00:36:49.940 checks in an election
00:36:51.340 year or as in election
00:36:52.800 years anyway it seems
00:36:55.160 like general vote buying
00:36:56.280 and you know we are
00:36:57.700 seeing this with the
00:36:58.260 liberals time and time
00:36:58.980 again they're spending
00:36:59.720 millions billions of
00:37:01.040 dollars to create for
00:37:02.620 example in Ontario 1.5
00:37:04.220 billion dollars for an
00:37:06.300 EV battery plant that
00:37:07.800 will create a thousand
00:37:08.660 jobs I think there's been
00:37:09.600 a couple of those
00:37:10.840 announcements been
00:37:11.660 reported and you just
00:37:12.680 look at this and you're
00:37:13.180 like why is this
00:37:14.080 happening this seems
00:37:14.660 so ridiculous but really 0.92
00:37:15.400 it's a sign of a broken 0.92
00:37:16.760 economy when the
00:37:17.760 government is coming in
00:37:19.180 and they're spending
00:37:20.180 millions and billions of
00:37:21.460 taxpayers dollars to
00:37:22.220 create a handful of
00:37:22.900 jobs it doesn't really
00:37:23.500 make sense in a
00:37:24.480 functioning economy you
00:37:25.680 know the natural supply
00:37:27.120 and demand system would be
00:37:28.240 creating jobs while
00:37:29.620 paying jobs from private
00:37:31.100 money there would be no
00:37:32.180 need for the federal
00:37:32.820 government to get
00:37:33.340 involved here so this is
00:37:34.140 really a broken system
00:37:35.020 that we're seeing it's
00:37:35.700 just so frustrating the
00:37:37.240 amount of money we're
00:37:37.840 spending on a handful of
00:37:38.660 jobs and also for the
00:37:39.600 EV battery plant I mean
00:37:40.780 that's its own loaded
00:37:41.520 statements on its own
00:37:42.280 we're creating all these
00:37:43.020 batteries no one really
00:37:43.900 wants electric vehicles
00:37:44.680 they haven't been
00:37:45.200 successful I don't think
00:37:46.480 they are going to be
00:37:47.160 very successful in the
00:37:47.920 next few years I think
00:37:48.680 people have kind of seen
00:37:49.660 what they have to offer
00:37:50.360 and chosen other options
00:37:51.660 so it's extremely
00:37:53.140 frustrating as a consumer
00:37:54.160 and a taxpayer to watch
00:37:55.220 this yeah fair enough
00:37:57.360 all right just before we
00:37:59.140 go well actually you know
00:37:59.880 I got one thing for us
00:38:00.880 before we go but before
00:38:01.940 that thing happens
00:38:03.240 Rachel you had this
00:38:04.320 story which you wanted
00:38:05.700 it doesn't even really
00:38:06.440 fit anywhere but it was
00:38:07.280 just weird are we
00:38:10.140 putting it up on what
00:38:11.180 story is this Peru oh
00:38:13.780 yes so Peru has
00:38:15.200 officially classified 0.86
00:38:16.100 trans people as mentally 1.00
00:38:17.160 ill I saw this and I 0.99
00:38:18.200 you know thought for a
00:38:19.000 minute maybe that some
00:38:19.800 mistake had been made
00:38:20.920 but someone had to say
00:38:23.020 the quiet part out loud
00:38:23.900 yeah I don't think
00:38:27.300 Canada has sent enough
00:38:28.600 money to Peru which is
00:38:29.720 why this has happened
00:38:30.460 because obviously the
00:38:31.600 feds keep sending money
00:38:32.620 to these foreign 0.78
00:38:33.540 countries to bolster their
00:38:35.040 LGBTQ community so I
00:38:37.620 think the liberals
00:38:38.140 haven't invested enough
00:38:39.240 of our tax
00:38:40.560 don't give them any ideas
00:38:41.560 Isaac don't give them 0.89
00:38:42.660 any ideas
00:38:43.380 I asked so Sean is our
00:38:45.840 producer he produces my
00:38:47.120 show and this one and I
00:38:48.620 asked and he's Peruvian
00:38:49.820 so I asked him what he
00:38:51.060 thought about it and he
00:38:52.460 said he forgot he was
00:38:53.340 Peruvian so 0.93
00:38:54.400 which is a convenient way
00:38:56.260 to sidestep having an
00:38:57.160 opinion on this
00:38:57.820 take some pride
00:38:58.540 what was that Rachel
00:39:01.580 can take some pride in
00:39:02.500 it now
00:39:02.880 yeah I always thought
00:39:04.740 that a lot of those
00:39:05.740 like Latin American 0.84
00:39:06.620 like the Central and
00:39:08.020 South American countries
00:39:08.760 were like really really
00:39:09.600 uber progressive like
00:39:10.920 played but I guess not
00:39:13.440 necessarily so I don't
00:39:15.020 know maybe they're
00:39:15.400 turning a corner I
00:39:16.080 don't pretend to know
00:39:16.700 anything about Peruvian
00:39:17.740 politics so Sean weighs
00:39:19.900 in now he's had some
00:39:20.920 time to think about he
00:39:21.600 says as a Peruvian I
00:39:23.200 can say they are quite
00:39:23.920 conservative when it
00:39:25.040 comes to LGBTQ stuff so 0.98
00:39:26.960 okay so maybe it's
00:39:27.920 actually nothing new
00:39:28.660 from them
00:39:29.580 as our home Peruvian
00:39:31.800 expert has spoken I
00:39:33.220 think also we're seeing
00:39:34.040 the future Peruvian
00:39:35.540 ambassador to Canada or
00:39:37.260 Canadian ambassador to
00:39:38.120 Peru he forgets he's
00:39:38.920 Peruvian but as long as 0.97
00:39:40.180 he doesn't forget he's
00:39:40.780 Canadian he's eligible for
00:39:41.800 the gig
00:39:42.140 I also think we're
00:39:44.300 really seeing the
00:39:44.860 pendulum like swinging
00:39:45.840 back hard on a lot of
00:39:46.780 these issues
00:39:47.360 no I agree
00:39:48.440 all right so earlier on
00:39:49.780 we were all struggling to
00:39:50.700 come up with raps in
00:39:51.580 real time and as my
00:39:53.180 true north colleagues
00:39:53.900 know and are no doubt
00:39:54.800 infuriated by I have
00:39:56.700 just developed this like
00:39:58.180 weird affinity for AI
00:39:59.700 generated music as of
00:40:01.000 late so while people
00:40:02.360 were talking I
00:40:03.520 produced or had I
00:40:04.780 didn't do it I did
00:40:05.680 like nothing I typed in
00:40:06.900 one sentence an AI
00:40:08.500 generated rap about
00:40:10.140 defunding CBC now I
00:40:12.180 have not heard this yet
00:40:13.380 so this could be
00:40:14.500 terrible but we're
00:40:15.780 gonna put it up and
00:40:16.600 we're gonna listen to
00:40:17.280 it for this is the
00:40:18.000 world debut of a song
00:40:19.600 that the AI app
00:40:21.080 Suno has titled
00:40:22.120 defund the broadcast
00:40:23.820 yo it's time to
00:40:27.900 address a topic that's
00:40:29.140 been on my mind
00:40:30.000 CBC you claim to
00:40:31.160 represent the people
00:40:32.100 but you're far behind
00:40:33.120 causing taxpayers money
00:40:34.520 it's getting out of
00:40:35.460 control time to defund
00:40:36.800 the broadcast it's time
00:40:37.940 for your reign to
00:40:38.760 fold CBC used to be
00:40:40.580 the voice of the nation
00:40:41.580 but nowadays all I hear
00:40:42.940 is propaganda and
00:40:44.000 misrepresentation you're
00:40:45.540 out of touch with
00:40:46.220 Canadians you don't
00:40:47.280 understand our plight
00:40:48.280 it's time to cut the
00:40:49.340 funding we need to
00:40:50.240 change and we need it
00:40:51.280 right you claim to
00:40:52.320 be unbiased but it's
00:40:53.340 clear that ain't the
00:40:54.040 case reporting with
00:40:55.240 agenda pushing
00:40:56.040 narratives in our face
00:40:57.280 you forgot your core
00:40:58.540 mission the reason you
00:40:59.660 exist it's time to
00:41:01.540 defund the broadcast
00:41:02.700 it's time for you to
00:41:04.080 resist
00:41:04.640 I gotta say that's
00:41:18.640 better than the Dubai
00:41:19.800 climate disinformation
00:41:21.300 rap I think
00:41:22.160 that was quite good
00:41:23.320 I guess I'm actually
00:41:24.860 the one who's behind
00:41:25.600 the times because
00:41:26.200 while you were working
00:41:26.940 away at your little
00:41:28.640 song I was kind of
00:41:29.640 just looking up words
00:41:30.380 on rhyme dictionary
00:41:31.200 trying to come up with
00:41:32.420 some more rhymes and
00:41:33.660 in the whole time I
00:41:34.300 only got one and I
00:41:35.340 don't even remember it
00:41:36.140 now
00:41:36.440 I was Barton and
00:41:39.100 Darton you had done
00:41:40.280 Rosie Barton and
00:41:41.020 Darton
00:41:41.320 but I've been also
00:41:42.020 working on rhymes
00:41:42.900 throughout the show and
00:41:44.620 it definitely wasn't as
00:41:45.840 fast as your AI song
00:41:47.040 okay this is why we're
00:41:49.000 all going to be out of
00:41:49.560 work when the the
00:41:50.480 machines rise up and
00:41:51.640 take their rightful
00:41:52.840 place on the throne of
00:41:53.720 civilization all right
00:41:54.680 on that happy delightful
00:41:56.240 note thanks to Rachel
00:41:58.180 Emanuel and Isaac
00:41:59.180 Lamoureux for coming on
00:42:00.100 the show thanks to all of
00:42:01.540 you for tuning in hope
00:42:02.600 you have a fantastic long
00:42:04.280 weekend and remember
00:42:05.680 everything you've heard
00:42:06.460 was please please please
00:42:08.320 remember this because I
00:42:09.620 don't want this getting
00:42:10.180 out it was all off the
00:42:11.320 record
00:42:11.640 Sean wants to know if
00:42:21.040 the rap counts as
00:42:21.980 Canadian content I I
00:42:24.160 don't know so I'm
00:42:24.960 Canadian and I did the
00:42:25.940 prompt but the computer
00:42:26.940 might not be Canadian so
00:42:28.040 I don't know if it's a
00:42:28.740 Canadian artist
00:42:29.500 we'll just you know
00:42:32.500 jiggle the words a little
00:42:33.220 bit so the CRTC doesn't
00:42:34.520 flag it
00:42:35.040 oh no I if it is
00:42:36.900 Canadian because when the 0.73
00:42:37.920 online streaming act comes
00:42:38.940 in maybe this is like what
00:42:39.920 we can just do to like
00:42:40.680 the front page see I
00:42:42.660 think that we you know
00:42:43.900 need to just do away with
00:42:45.060 AI so we can all use our
00:42:46.380 brains a little more you
00:42:47.600 know flex our skills we're
00:42:48.760 all becoming too lazy you
00:42:50.240 came up with one rhyme in
00:42:51.240 45 minutes Rachel
00:42:52.280 but it's a good one you
00:42:54.120 want to hear it Rosie
00:42:55.620 Barton sues sue the
00:42:57.480 Tories that action is 0.98
00:42:59.520 damn the Tory 0.98
00:43:00.360 we need an AI model on the 1.00
00:43:04.100 website that wraps all of
00:43:05.320 our articles out for the
00:43:06.480 for the
00:43:07.000 I put Andrew's AI song into
00:43:08.740 my podcast
00:43:09.560 I know I did people like
00:43:11.060 that I forget it's very
00:43:12.660 mixed it's half and half
00:43:14.220 um a lot of people like the
00:43:16.340 song and then a lot of
00:43:17.260 people are like oh I can't
00:43:19.140 stand that it's AI but
00:43:20.220 otherwise they like the
00:43:20.840 song and then there's also
00:43:21.600 a good number of people who
00:43:22.640 are like it's super cringy
00:43:24.300 Rachel like you need to take 0.97
00:43:25.320 it off I have to skip your
00:43:26.440 intro now
00:43:27.040 ah oh well
00:43:28.640 all right
00:43:29.500 it's my show I make the
00:43:31.840 decisions
00:43:32.500 so
00:43:37.640 you
00:43:39.620 you
00:43:39.680 you
00:43:39.900 you
00:43:39.980 you
00:43:40.760 you
00:43:42.760 you
00:43:43.140 you
00:43:43.340 you