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- November 30, 2024
This is all Trudeau’s fault
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So are you all ready for Christmas, Rachel?
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Have you completed your shopping?
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Is that a thing that people get done this early in the year?
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You might be.
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William, I've been so busy working that, you know,
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I haven't even started thinking about my Christmas shopping yet.
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I've just been really focused on, you know, the American election
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and then immediately afterwards now this tariff fret moving over us.
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So I don't really have time left in my schedule to think about anything else.
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I'm absolutely focused on work 100% of the time.
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And you should definitely remember that this weekend,
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when you're working on our performance reviews.
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Well, I was thinking, you know, those tariffs,
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if they come to pass and it creates a spike in the price of goods on both sides,
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we're definitely going to want to get our Christmas shopping done
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and maybe even buy next year's Christmas gifts
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before we see them go up in price.
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But hopefully, as we're going to talk about,
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hopefully cooler heads prevail and we don't see those tariffs come in.
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Yeah, it's just a bit of a vibe session that our political leaders are having.
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Nothing negative is actually going to come from it.
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All right.
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Now I've given away too much about today's show.
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Let's get it started.
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Hey, everyone.
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Welcome to Off The Record, our Friday fun show.
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I am your host today, Rachel Parker,
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and I am joined by my colleagues, William McBeat and Isaac Lamoureux.
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William and Isaac, thank you so much for being here today
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to discuss the crazy and fun stories that happen this week in Canadian politics.
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I want to start it off with something that I have been covering very closely this week,
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and that is the looming threat from U.S. President-elect Donald Trump
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of 25% tariffs on all Canadian goods coming into the U.S.
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unless Canada cleans up its act and stops the flow of illegals into the United States
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as well as the flow of drugs.
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Now, William, you've been around a little longer than me.
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What's your take?
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Yeah, I mean, this was a problem that didn't just crop up overnight.
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It's a problem that's been nine years in the making ever since Prime Minister Trudeau
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and his merry band of incompetent cabinet ministers took office.
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We've seen what was once an immigration system that was praised by President-elect Donald Trump.
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He pointed to Canada as a model for how to do an immigration system
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to one that has now put Canada on a knife's edge economically.
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And, you know, what are the factors?
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Well, the first thing is Trudeau completely lost control of the Canadian border.
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He basically invited the entire world to come to Canada.
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We didn't do adequate background checks into these people.
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We've allowed millions of non-permanent resident immigrants
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to come into the country in the last year alone.
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And now we have no real idea of how to control this,
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of how to get this problem under control.
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And you're right, it requires political will.
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But that's not something this government is particularly known for.
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If it isn't climate change or other pet woke issues like how many genders there are
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and what people kind is, this government just doesn't care.
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And, you know, True North's Candace Malcolm wrote a great article on this,
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talking a little bit about how we lost our way.
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One stat she cited, which I think is really important,
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is that when it comes to terrorists, potential or actual terrorists entering the United States
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apprehended by U.S. border and customs,
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Canada has had more than five times the number of terrorists entering the United States across its border
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than Mexico has with it.
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So you're right, when it comes to drugs, when it comes to sheer numbers of immigrants,
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Mexico is by far a problem.
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But when it comes to terrorism, that's Canada's problem.
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And we are by far a bigger threat than Mexico in that regard.
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So I think the president is right to express concern
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about allowing terrorists into the United States across the northern border.
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Well, just last, earlier this month, one of India's most wanted terrorists was arrested
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in relation to a shooting in Toronto.
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What is one of India's most wanted terrorists doing in Canada in the first place?
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That's a question that we should all be asking ourselves.
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And to your point, William, it's something that the Americans are noticing.
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They are seeing the security breaches that we are having here in Canada.
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They are seeing the types of people that we are allowing into our country.
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They recognize that these people are crossing the border into the states.
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And they are finally saying enough of this.
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Isaac, we have talked about the absence of leadership from Trudeau's file.
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I know that you cover the Alberta government very closely.
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What is Danielle Smith doing differently?
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Yeah, so I wrote two articles that touched on this.
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Firstly, I wrote about the premier's meeting that they convened yesterday
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with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau when they, of course, discussed the looming tariff
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and the border issues.
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And interestingly, although perhaps unsurprisingly,
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Smith was the premier to come out the most outspoken after the meeting.
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Some of the premiers merely just referenced it.
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Some didn't talk about it at all.
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But Smith came out with a huge statement on all of her concerns that she covered in the meeting
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that weren't only about the border, but of course, as you could imagine,
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about energy security, the production cap, etc.
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Other premiers who were outspoken was, of course, Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe.
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And he said what you alluded to there, Rachel, which was he said,
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look, we need the CBSA, the Border Service Agency,
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and the Coast Guard to help us on the border.
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It's simple.
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We need to just, you know, use the organizations we have at our disposal
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to help deal with border security.
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And the other article I wrote, which William referenced, Candace had also discussed,
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was, of course, the terrorists going across the Canada-US border
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compared to the Mexico-US border.
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Between 2022 and 2024, yes, it was six times more individuals
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on the terrorist watch list that were apprehended at the northern border
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compared to the southern, despite, as you mentioned, Rachel,
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that we only have 9% of the number of people crossing that border.
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So, I mean, the fact that we have six-fold amount of people
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on the terrorist watch list, despite being 9%, I mean, it's a shocking number.
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And it's little surprise that Trump has come out as strongly as he did.
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I mean, who would have thought a few months ago that Trump, of all people,
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would be the person to save Canada from its immigration crisis?
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It's interesting that Danielle Smith, as you said, she's come out so strongly
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and said Canada can address the Americans' concerns, and we should do that.
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We should recognize that they are targeting our economy
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because they are angry about our lax way of handling the border.
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And now Danielle Smith even came out after that first minister's meeting
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and said that she is going to be working with the RCMP and here in Alberta
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to make sure that that border that Alberta shares with Montana is being patrolled.
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She's going to ramp up security efforts there.
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Now, when you think about legals crossing in Canada and the states,
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you don't really think about Alberta and Montana as a huge problem.
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That's not really the first area to jump to mind.
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That being said, I suspect what Danielle Smith is doing is she's signaling to the Americans,
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we know that she said from the beginning that she is going to be building her own relationship
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with the Americans because she doesn't trust Justin Trudeau to do it
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and because Justin Trudeau continuously targets Alberta as seen through its emissions cap.
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And so, you know, I think she wants the Americans to recognize that even if the rest of Canada
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and even if Justin Trudeau isn't going to take Trump's concerns seriously, she is.
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And so even if you don't think about Alberta and Montana as necessarily being a problematic issue,
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Danielle Smith is signaling to them that it is something she is going to take seriously.
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She is going to do everything in her power to make sure that Donald Trump's concerns are assaged.
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And furthermore, I think that she's trying to get an exemption on Alberta energy.
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I think she's recognizing that we don't have the people in place.
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Chrystia Freeland, Justin Trudeau, these are not serious people.
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These are not people that Donald Trump and his team like.
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They have been very clear about the fact that they do not like Chrystia Freeland.
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They do not like Justin Trudeau.
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So I think she is going to do everything in her power to make sure that Alberta energy
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is exempt from those tariffs.
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What do you think, William?
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Do you think that Danielle Smith is trying to get that exemption on Alberta energy?
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No, I mean, I think she absolutely is.
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This is someone who has well understood and looked with very clear eyes about the source
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of Canada and Alberta's wealth and prosperity.
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And she knows the energy sector plays a vital role in that.
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And I think she also knows, because she said so, that the perception of Mr. Trudeau and
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Ms. Freeland by the Trump administration, the incoming Trump administration, is not good.
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That they have gone out of their way at times to antagonize Mr. Trump, to play the moral
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superiority card, to try and paint him as someone that they're so much better than.
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But you also have to understand that Mr. Trump is a very sensitive person when it comes to
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what people say about him.
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He does not like criticism.
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He does not like mockery.
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You can only ask anybody who's ever done those things when he lashes out at them how much he
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likes them.
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And the fact is, is that Mr. Trudeau's own statements, because he cannot help but talk
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about how much better he is, how much better the liberal government is, how much purer the
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government is on so many issues, has really painted themselves into a corner.
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I mean, thankfully, we are hopefully going to see a change in government in Canada at some
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point in the coming year.
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And maybe Mr. Pagliavra will have a better chance negotiating with Mr. Trump.
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At least there won't be that personal animosity.
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Um, and frankly, you have to wonder just how up, uh, the, the tired Trudeau government is
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to a hard negotiation with a freshly elected U.S. administration chomping at the bit to
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try and make some changes.
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So, uh, yeah, I think we could be in for some pain.
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Hopefully, clearer heads prevail, and hopefully we can get a cast of characters on our side
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who's able to deal more effectively with the people we know we'll be dealing with for
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the next four years.
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Part of the reason that we're seeing this tension between Alberta and Ottawa, which admittedly
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is nothing new, but part of the reason we're seeing this renewed tension right now, Danielle
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Smith is saying that she wants a Team Canada approach to the threat of tariffs, but it's
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very difficult for her to have a Team Canada approach because of the way that Justin Trudeau
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is treating Alberta.
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And she points to the emissions cap that the Trudeau government wants to push through as
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an example.
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And she's saying that it's so short-sighted and that it's making Canada look stupid because
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the Americans want energy security.
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So Alberta should be willing to meet that need for energy security that America desires to
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help Alberta and to help give Canada a, you know, a higher position in negotiating with
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the Americans.
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And I know that there has been quite an interesting development to this story.
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Isaac, why don't you take the lead on this one?
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Yeah, so we'll remember that Danielle Smith previously called the Liberals' proposed emissions
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cap a, quote, deranged vendetta, specifically targeting Alberta.
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And in fact, in her most recent press conference, her and Minister Schultz essentially said, look,
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we've been trying to work with these guys since before we got an office.
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We've been telling them, do not do this.
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You will cripple Canada's economy.
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But despite their numerous calls, emails, letters, you name it, they have remained unanswered.
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And long story short, Alberta is taking the very, very strong stance of invoking the Alberta
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sovereignty within a United Canada Act to counter the emissions cap.
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This announcement was made this week by Smith, and she was alongside Environment Minister Rebecca
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Schultz and Minister of Energy Brian Jean.
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And look, they said, look, you're violating our constitution.
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We're going to put up this Sovereignty Act to protect our exclusive jurisdiction, which
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is non-renewable energy sources.
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We've all seen the reports.
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I mean, we've discussed these reports at length, the various reports that have showed
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that this cap will cut up to 2 million barrels of oil per day.
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It'll slash over 150,000 Canadian jobs.
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We saw the one report saying that this would cut a trillion dollars between 2030 and 2040
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from Canada's GDP.
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I mean, the number trillion is even hard to comprehend.
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And then there was a report from the Conference Board of Canada as well, showing that each family,
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every single family in the country will have $419 less a month, which is staggering because
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we've also seen the CTF's previous reports that the vast majority of Canadians are less
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than that away from insolvency.
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So the difference there is really the difference between being bankrupt or not.
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I mean, how crazy can we get?
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Yeah, I'm curious.
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What do you guys think about the Sovereignty Act?
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Do you think it will actually protect Alberta and completely stop the feds?
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I mean, we saw in Alberta's press release all the things they plan to do with this cap.
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It's even a long list to go through.
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But I think even the interesting thing here, because your question is, is it going to protect
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Alberta, is really what's atop everyone's mind.
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OK, let's see how this plays out.
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The Alberta government is using this to defend Albertans' interests, honestly to defend Canada's
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interests, and also to protect their own jurisdiction, which is their own resources.
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Alberta has the right to develop its resources.
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That is very clearly laid out and enshrined.
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The one thing that I would say about this is that I feel like because legal proceedings
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are so lengthy, I can't help but suspect even while the legal proceedings is ongoing and
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the challenge is ongoing, I would suspect that we would see a change in government.
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But William, I know you're about to jump in there.
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What were you going to say?
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Well, I have to shake my head.
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What is it with prime ministers whose last name is Trudeau and their absolute obsession with
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the wrecking the Alberta economy and energy industry?
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You know what they say?
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Like father, like son.
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Well, you've seen it before.
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You'll see it again.
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We have the NEP, which absolutely was, you know, a wound to Alberta economically and even
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socially as people lost their jobs and their homes.
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And now we've got, you know, Stephen Gilboa, who is really a jumped up eco-radical activist.
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That's what he is.
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He wears a suit, but he's more at home hanging off of a structure, protesting whatever nonsense
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climate thing he's got going on that week.
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These are the people in charge of federal departments who make serious decisions about
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our economy.
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And, you know, as Isaac mentioned, a cost per family of $419 a month, that's $5,000 a year
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taken right out of the pockets of your typical Canadian family.
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So that's $5,000 less to pay for your mortgage, to pay for a vacation, to buy groceries, to
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invest in college funds for your kids.
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And instead, you're paying it for, you know, Mr. Gilboa and Mr. Trudeau's latest eco-insanity
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that they're foisting onto Canadians.
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I think, Rachel, you're absolutely right.
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The goal here, maybe not, isn't necessarily to overturn this legislation.
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It is to run out the clock on a government that knows it has a limited amount of time to
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try and get things done.
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So, again, hopefully before too much damage happens, we can see a change in government
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and a change in policy.
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Well, to your point about us all needing to buy, like, our Christmas presents for next
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year, this year, which you said, I don't know if that was on the show or just us chatting
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before.
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But, you know, hopefully before we get to next Christmas, we all, you know, have, we've
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seen that change in government that you've mentioned.
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And I think that we're all sort of waiting for.
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What I said to my audience this week when I was reporting on this, and I myself, I know I
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feel very unsure that Justin Trudeau and his administration has what it takes to get a
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negotiation that will not see tariffs on Canada.
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Maybe they won't be quite so high, but no tariffs at all.
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It seems quite unlikely.
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But I said, basically, you know, batten down the hatches, everyone.
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It's going to be a bumpy ride for a little while.
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And, you know, it seems to be the case that everyone's thinking it across the board, because
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to your point, William, you know, Stephen Guibault, he's more at home hanging off someone's
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house.
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He's more at home in an orange jumpsuit.
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These are not serious people.
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These are not people who are in positions that they are suited for.
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They do not have the skill set.
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They do not have the intelligence.
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It is just putting people, you know, it's like they're just not well suited to it at any
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time.
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Like, Melanesia Lee, for example, is, I think, the best example of this.
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Every time she goes out and speaks, it's like she has nothing of substance to say.
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You know, I remember even recently she was asked about her plan to how to deal with the
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Trump administration, how to deal with the threat of tariffs.
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I have a plan.
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I'm not going to tell you what it is right now, but I have a plan.
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Like, that was legitimately her answer.
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It was just a stunning thing to behold.
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And, you know, Christopher Eland is another great example of this.
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Someone who is totally ill-equipped for the job that she is now.
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And also, someone who can't help herself, but to continuously insult Canadians.
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There was that instance a little while ago where she told everyone, yeah, you're struggling,
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you know, with the inflationary crisis that my government has created.
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Cancel your Disney Plus account.
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You know, that extra $8 to $12 a month, I don't actually know what it costs.
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That'll really solve all your problems.
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Now, the same thing with the local government offering this pennies of tax break, which I think
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got voted down, but, you know, things are not actually going to do anything for, you
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know, for Canadians.
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It's not a matter of nickels and dimes here.
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That's the issue.
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And then Chrystia Freeland, most recently, now insulting Canadians once again.
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I'm sure you guys have seen this clip.
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We're going to play it for you now.
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Take a look at Chrystia Freeland and listen very carefully to what she says.
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People have been talking about a vibe session.
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And how that is a challenge for the Canadian economy.
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Okay.
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So you guys at home, you're struggling to make ends meet.
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You're struggling to pay rent, get groceries on the table, keep the lights on.
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That new part for your car that you've been needing, you can't afford it.
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Can't get that root canal for your son that he needs.
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No worries.
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It's just a vibe session.
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You're just feeling now.
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There's not actually anything wrong with the economy.
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The economy, the liberal government's economy, best economy there's ever been.
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Just you.
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You're just feeling.
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It's just a bad vibe.
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That's all it is.
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That's what she's telling Canadians.
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It is actually laughable if it didn't make you want to cry.
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This is, of course, a government that famously said they would build the economy from the heart out
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and that the budget would balance itself.
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And now, as long as we all have good vibes, then why should we be worried about the fact
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that we can't pay our rents and our mortgages or buy groceries or afford to save for retirement?
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So we'll all have to work until we literally drop dead in the middle of a workday.
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You know, just get on with a better vibe.
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I mean, I'll tell you, if you can find someone more out of touch with the needs and experience
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of an everyday Canadian than Chrystia Freeland, I would be amazed at who that is.
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Maybe one of the Kardashians because it's been so long since they've lived a real life.
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But, you know, again, you have to wonder, who are these people?
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Who are these people who are in charge of government departments and charged with making massive
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and important decisions day in and day out that affect the lives of ordinary Canadian families?
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We have a vibe problem?
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No, we have a cost of living crisis.
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We have a housing crisis.
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We have an immigration crisis.
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We have a healthcare crisis.
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None of which can be solved by simply listening to Pharrell's Happy on playlist, on repeat, over and over again.
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And, you know, I know it's not polite to speak ill of them, but you have to wonder sometimes.
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These people really are dumbasses.
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You may need to bleep that, editors, in the post.
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I think they will.
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And that was my mistake.
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I think the HST tax is expected to pass, but the GST, sorry, is expected to pass.
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But the conservatives will be voting against it.
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And, you know, the liberals are really trying to raise the alarm on this saying,
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oh, you know, the conservatives are voting against this tax.
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They don't want you to have a tax break.
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I actually, I don't think that line of attack is working anymore.
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I think that it worked against the conservatives for a really, really long time.
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But Trudeau is so far down in the polls right now, and people are really seeing through him.
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He's so unpopular.
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And I think that even, because, yes, it's such an easy thing to say,
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oh, the conservatives voted against a tax break.
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I think Canadians recognize that this was a useless tax break
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that wasn't going to do anything meaningful for their pocket.
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And, you know, we can live without saving that extra $3 when we go out for dinner.
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If you're really struggling, you're probably not going out for dinner in the first place.
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What's your take, Isaac?
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Yeah, just wanted to speak quickly about the vibe session thing, which was,
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because I wrote the article on that.
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I just wanted to say, I listened to the, I think it was 42-minute press conference
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held by Freeland and two other ministers.
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And my editors can attest to this.
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The article took me longer than normal to write,
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because I was frankly shocked.
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In this 42-minute conference,
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almost not one sentence that was said was true.
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Literally everything they said was just verifiably untrue.
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They would say things like, oh, Canada has the lowest unemployment in the G7,
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the best GDP growth in the G7.
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I mean, the list goes on.
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But you could check these things in five seconds
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and tell that they're just frankly not true.
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So, I mean, it's frustrating that these parliamentarians
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can just have a conference and lie for the whole thing,
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and it's all good.
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But I don't know.
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As for the GST tax break, what's that going to cost Canadians?
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Six billion dollars or something?
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Yeah, not that, I mean, hey, like William said,
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the budget will balance itself.
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So, I mean, Justin Trudeau has accumulated over one trillion dollars in debt already
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during his tenure, which, of course, as we all know,
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is more than every other prime minister before him combined,
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which, I mean, just saying that is almost unbelievable.
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It's truly a shocking statistic.
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And, hey, it's only going to continue to climb.
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We've seen everyone's questioning the Liberals
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because they initially said they were going to have a, what,
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$40 billion deficit.
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But now the PBO is saying, are you sure about that?
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Because I'm looking at the numbers here,
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and it doesn't look like you're going to be able
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to have the deficit you promised.
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It's going to be higher.
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Surprise, surprise.
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How much did you say that it was?
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Canada's dead?
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Yeah, the deficit that was promised.
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Oh, I think it was $40.2 billion, right?
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With billion with a B.
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With a B.
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Yes.
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Sorry, guys.
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You're not going to have that $40 billion deficit that you promised.
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It's actually going to be a lot higher.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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We have spent enough time only depressing and anxiety-inducing stories.
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We've got to end it off with something a bit more humorous.
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William, I think that you picked that green shirt intentionally today.
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I am.
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I better watch out, though, because, you know,
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if you've been paying any amount of attention on social media for the past week,
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you probably know that the film version of the musical Wicked appeared on big screens.
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It's a fun musical, lots of songs, lots of high-energy dancing,
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and tries to tell a little bit of a backstory, I think,
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on some of the characters from the original Wizard of Oz movie.
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But over at the, I want to get their name right, the British Board of Film Classification,
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a group of people who have never met a fun time that they couldn't find something to wreck it with,
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they decided that the movie is discriminatory and now has a trigger warning specifically for green-skinned people
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and persecuted talking animals.
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And when I saw this story, I actually had to click it to make sure I wasn't reading an Onion or other satirical article.
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I thought, surely to goodness, we aren't actually concerned about discriminating against green-skinned people and talking animals.
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But no, lo and behold, that's what this censorious body in England has decided.
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They want people to know before watching Wicked that if you're green of skin or if you're an animal that can talk,
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you may be deeply offended by Wicked, the musical on screen.
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So I just thought that was worth mentioning in the fact that, has the world lost its mind and gone completely crazy?
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Definitely certain parts of it, the answer is an unqualified yes.
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We are living in insane times.
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Well, it certainly has, and the way that we know that is that when you're saying,
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I initially thought this was like a headline from the Onion or another satirical site,
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that seems to be happening on the regular now.
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Basically, you know, at least once a week, if not more often, you're running into a headline,
00:25:15.160
you're like, I gotta double-check this, you're reading, you know, you're clicking on the news site,
00:25:18.840
you're like, something's glitching here, this can't be real.
00:25:21.560
And sure enough, it turns out that it was a real headline.
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The thing that is just killing me about this whole Wicked thing is,
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so I had actually never heard of this musical.
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Apparently, it's like, you know, really popular and all these things.
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I hadn't heard of it before.
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Ariana Grande was cast in it.
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I didn't really realize like how big of a deal it was that they were doing Wicked.
00:25:41.460
And they have pumped out like millions and millions of dollars on the advertising for this
00:25:46.720
to the point where if anyone in the audience has not seen an advertisement for this musical,
00:25:53.880
please let me know in the comment section below because you are like the luckiest person in the entire world.
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My timeline, no matter which social media platform I'm using,
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if I'm on X, if I'm on Facebook, if I'm searching the web, if I'm on YouTube,
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it is filled with all sorts of promotional content for this musical Wicked.
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You absolutely cannot escape it.
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Personally, I'm not a very big Ariana Grande fan who was sort of the pop celebrity
00:26:20.280
that was cast as one of the main roles in this movie.
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See, I know way too much about it because like I've watched some of this advertising content
00:26:28.200
that I actually don't want to watch, but I just, I can't help it.
00:26:30.700
And her and the other lead who plays the green character, you know,
00:26:35.440
they have been doing this sort of insufferable press tour
00:26:38.300
where they cry in every single interview that they do.
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They'll break down in tears and talk about how important and how meaningful it was.
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And it's just the most sickening, grotesque thing I've ever witnessed.
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So you're an, you're actresses.
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You have the easiest, best life.
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Put on a smile, do your press interview, talk about how great it was,
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talk about how everyone should go see the musical and call it a date.
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Stop with the bloody tears already.
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It's so annoying to watch.
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And so they are just getting absolutely raked over the cold to the point that I suspect
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people like myself, someone, I consider myself a normal person, a normie.
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I get that nowadays, everyone wants to be weird
00:27:15.420
and they'll use whatever labels they can to show that they're weird
00:27:18.400
because they just want attention.
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I'm a very normal person.
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I am not interested in watching this musical
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because of how insufferable the press tour has been for it.
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But now that this stupid trigger warning has come out for the movie,
00:27:30.000
I've been put in this difficult position where I like,
00:27:31.960
I almost have to defend the artistic integrity of the movie
00:27:35.200
because the trigger warning is just so annoying.
00:27:37.480
And I suspect that there's other people on the right.
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We've also been put in sort of this, you know, uncomfortable conundrum
00:27:43.020
where it's like, I hate this musical and everything that the people
00:27:45.700
who are writing it stand for.
00:27:46.880
But also the trigger warning is really over the top.
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And I want to call it the people who gave the trigger warning.
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Isaac, do you have any thoughts?
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I mean, like, have you been seeing all the,
00:27:55.900
my timeline is just filled with stuff about Wicked.
00:27:58.520
And can you even see it in Canada or do you have to go to London?
00:28:01.760
Because I don't even think we can see it here,
00:28:03.280
but I could be totally wrong on that.
00:28:05.400
Yeah, I have a few thoughts.
00:28:07.000
Firstly, I don't know that I've noticed it as much on social media
00:28:10.960
as you may have, Rachel,
00:28:11.940
but I will say every single hockey game I've watched this season
00:28:14.880
has had an advertisement for Wicked,
00:28:17.480
the very ones you described of essentially actresses crying
00:28:20.040
in press conferences.
00:28:21.720
And it's definitely insufferable.
00:28:24.660
Love that stuff.
00:28:25.240
Insufferable.
00:28:26.180
But to be fair to Sportsnet,
00:28:27.620
they also have been showing Alberta's Scrap the Tax,
00:28:30.560
or, sorry, Scrap the Cap ad campaign.
00:28:33.240
Well, hold on.
00:28:34.180
They do got both sides there.
00:28:35.480
It's not that we can say to be fair to them.
00:28:37.480
They get paid a lot of money to run those ads.
00:28:40.120
And I just wanted to tell a quick story
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to defend green-skinned individuals.
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I was in Dollarama like a few weeks before Halloween,
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and I seen this guy walk in, not in a costume.
00:28:53.140
He looked completely normal,
00:28:54.120
aside from the fact that his skin was completely yellowish slash green.
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And, of course, it's Halloween time,
00:29:01.200
so he could have been in a costume,
00:29:02.640
or maybe he had jaundice.
00:29:04.620
I don't know that I've ever actually seen someone in person with it,
00:29:07.340
but it looked so realistic that it wasn't makeup.
00:29:09.400
So I thought, hmm, maybe that's jaundice,
00:29:12.780
and he's the very person they're trying to defend in this rule, I guess.
00:29:19.540
Okay, so they're trying to defend jaundice individuals.
00:29:22.440
Please then explain the bit about the talking animals.
00:29:25.360
Well, I just had to laugh,
00:29:26.540
because I don't know if maybe I'm older,
00:29:28.580
so this was only for my generation,
00:29:30.420
but there used to be an expression where when people were saying,
00:29:33.100
you know, well, I'm not racist,
00:29:34.740
it doesn't matter if someone's black, white, or purple.
00:29:37.700
And now I think, well, actually,
00:29:40.500
now it turns out that purple, like green,
00:29:43.220
could be a protected category of people.
00:29:45.420
So we may have to now update that example again
00:29:48.220
to say something more relevant.
00:29:50.680
I just have to wonder,
00:29:51.660
don't people have anything better to spend their time,
00:29:54.600
energy, and money on
00:29:55.680
than, you know, trying to say,
00:29:58.000
oh, the poor green-skinned,
00:29:59.500
the nauseous people on a cruise
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who are green from feeling seasick.
00:30:05.380
You know, that's a protected class of people, too.
00:30:08.580
No, that's the problem with society today,
00:30:11.420
is our lives have become too easy.
00:30:13.820
We are too modernized.
00:30:15.100
A lot of people are not having kids.
00:30:16.600
They have nothing but time.
00:30:17.940
They're so bored with themselves
00:30:19.140
and with their, you know,
00:30:20.380
their meaningless, frivolous lives
00:30:22.360
that they create problems that don't exist
00:30:23.960
to talk about how they can solve them.
00:30:25.760
That is the problem of our society,
00:30:27.440
is people do not have enough work.
00:30:29.160
I definitely believe that to be true.
00:30:30.740
And I actually looked at this stuff
00:30:32.420
while we were talking
00:30:32.980
as I knew it was something shocking.
00:30:34.940
Their advertising budget was $145 million.
00:30:39.500
So they spent $145 million
00:30:42.380
on that miserable, miserable press tour.
00:30:46.580
Yeah, and all it's going to result
00:30:48.220
is people like me
00:30:49.040
are not going to go watch the musical.
00:30:50.840
And does anyone know,
00:30:51.580
do you have to go to London to see it?
00:30:53.660
I feel like that's a William question.
00:30:56.280
I don't think so.
00:30:57.520
I think if it isn't already out everywhere,
00:31:00.080
it will be.
00:31:01.340
Oh, so it's like going to be
00:31:02.360
in the movie theaters here?
00:31:04.060
I believe so.
00:31:05.340
To be honest,
00:31:05.920
I haven't paid that much attention to it either.
00:31:09.340
I was more shocked that Greenskin
00:31:11.500
is apparently now a protected
00:31:13.000
human rights criteria.
00:31:15.400
$145 million would be quite
00:31:16.960
the advertising campaign
00:31:18.180
to just cover a film
00:31:19.700
that is able to be seen in London.
00:31:23.600
Yeah, I feel like if it's a musical,
00:31:26.520
I don't know,
00:31:26.760
I thought maybe that they were actually
00:31:28.000
like doing it in a theater
00:31:29.000
somewhere in London,
00:31:29.900
but I guess it's just like a
00:31:31.340
high school musical movie title.
00:31:33.280
That was a movie.
00:31:35.020
It was a musical.
00:31:36.260
It was on stage.
00:31:37.480
Now it's a movie
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for everybody to see.
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But be warned,
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there are green people
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and talking animals in it.
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So cover yourselves accordingly.
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Don't be too offended.
00:31:47.260
All right, guys,
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we're going to leave it there for today.
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Don't forget that everything
00:31:50.220
you heard today
00:31:50.940
was off the record.
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Do you guys remember
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like a year ago
00:32:00.940
they redid
00:32:01.940
the Mean Girls movie?
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So...
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I do, yeah.
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...to see it.
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And it was like
00:32:08.520
the day that I was going to see it,
00:32:10.120
I realized that
00:32:10.800
I like looked something up
00:32:12.040
and I learned,
00:32:12.540
I was reading an article about it
00:32:13.660
and I was like,
00:32:14.080
oh, it's a musical.
00:32:14.960
I had no idea.
00:32:15.500
Yeah, I mean,
00:32:16.840
the original Mean Girls
00:32:18.180
is kind of a classic,
00:32:19.720
you know,
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written by Tina Fey,
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starring the famous
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and then infamous
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Lindsay Lohan.
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And then, you know,
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to try and remake it,
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I always think,
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why wreck a good thing
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by remaking it?
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Why don't you just let
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the original be a thing
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that people like?
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And, you know,
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here's an idea, Hollywood.
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Come up with a new idea
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for a movie once in a while.
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