Off the Record - November 01, 2024


What is Jagmeet Singh so afraid of?


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In this week's Off The Record, we talk about why Jagmeet Singh is not going to bring down the Trudeau government anytime soon, and why that's a good thing. We also talk about what's going on with the Prime Minister's Office, and whether or not he's going to make it to the next election.

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00:00:00.000 noah am i seeing things or did you fix your roof no no yeah it's not fixed it's just the angle of
00:00:07.960 where the camera is first thing i was like wait noah has a roof usually it's just a vacant uh
00:00:12.740 attic space is that oh no there it is there's holy it's where the hole used to be a lot bigger
00:00:20.200 maybe it just me no i was so embarrassed that i didn't want to show the entire thing but uh no
00:00:26.060 now my dad tells me to take the entire roof down in the basement uh so it's only gonna get worse
00:00:31.580 before it gets better so so the next time you take like your electric moped out somewhere however you
00:00:37.540 young people travel um pop by get a little get a little piece of dip rock from like a hardware store
00:00:44.400 just stick it in there paint it whatever you want just or paint cardboard something that that would
00:00:51.800 be a good solution however i'm just gonna leave that to people who know how to do that stuff like
00:00:56.880 my dad or you know like a handyman or something like that i'm good at writing you know not necessarily
00:01:01.560 like fixing roofs you know i would have gotten to carpentry yeah i know that's my only skill i'm
00:01:08.100 worried that a posse of possums and raccoons are going to team up and come down through that hole at
00:01:13.900 any time oh i need company it gets lonely down here you know i wouldn't mind raising a little family
00:01:19.880 opossums that'd be great they're a little hissy all right this is too much fun for a friday uh
00:01:25.480 let's get started
00:01:26.520 welcome to off the record which is broadcasted on the internet my name is chris sims i'm the
00:01:39.380 alberta director for the canadian taxpayers federation i'm joined by my friends from true north
00:01:44.060 noah and isaac thank you so much for joining us today uh lots of fun things to talk about uh namely
00:01:50.080 that i'm right and that ndp leader jagmeet singh is not going to bring down the trudeau government
00:01:58.280 anytime soon no matter how much he huffs and puffs and tries to pretend to blow the house down here's
00:02:04.280 your headline singh will not support attempts by the conservative party of canada and the bloc
00:02:09.420 quebecois to trigger an early election shocker to exactly nobody and of course this thing will just
00:02:16.480 keep rolling on and rolling on my prediction is that we're going to so he i think he qualifies for
00:02:22.640 his pension in february of this coming year after that we're going to have a federal budget which is
00:02:27.940 an automatic confidence vote because it's a big money bill and presto bango i think we're going to be
00:02:33.260 having an election sometime around april or may what's your guys's take well i think that jagmeet
00:02:40.120 singh has proven himself to be one of the most dishonest politicians in ottawa you know like we
00:02:44.640 can say a lot about justin trudeau and you know the dishonesty of his government all the scandals that
00:02:49.740 his government is responsible for however jagmeet singh routinely just tries to deceive the canadian
00:02:55.960 public and i think it's crazy uh you know you can see that from his messaging on inflation the
00:03:00.820 greedflation thing which is like the most nonsense uh economic statement possible uh and you know he
00:03:06.640 does this routinely talk about how pure poliev's gonna take away your abortion rights and stuff like
00:03:10.520 that and now he's told the canadian people two months ago now time flies two months ago he pulled
00:03:16.040 out of the confidence and supply agreement and basically made it seem like he was gonna stand
00:03:21.440 off against trudeau and parliament and he's gonna really you know take it to him and you know bring
00:03:25.840 down the government you know if they make you know just one little mistake because that's what was
00:03:30.380 holding him back with the supply and confidence agreement but it seems as if the affairs in
00:03:35.160 ottawa just goes on as they always have been for the past few years and he is supporting the trudeau
00:03:40.560 government it seems as if jagmeet singh is more supportive of the trudeau government than like 24
00:03:46.160 liberal mps you know it's kind of crazy so i think that jagmeet singh really needs to take a look in
00:03:53.080 the mirror if he wants to gain some seats in the next election he's gonna have to come out against
00:03:57.500 this very very unpopular prime minister and at and the longer he continues uh to support uh prime
00:04:03.640 minister justin trudeau uh he will be uh not he won't make any progress in the polls i think we
00:04:09.520 have a clip of a jagmeet singh uh you know talking about what his justification for not bringing down
00:04:16.000 the trudeau government along with the bloc québécois does that mean that you will not work with the
00:04:21.800 bloc and conservatives to bring down the government we know people are hurting right now people are
00:04:27.000 struggling right now they're having a hard time affording their groceries they're having a hard
00:04:30.260 time affording a place to call home and seniors are just getting help with their with their teeth
00:04:34.900 i'm not gonna let pierre polyev the king cut himself and the bloc decide when to cut these things
00:04:41.440 that people need i'm not gonna let them cut the things that people need so no i'm not gonna play their games
00:04:45.280 game play really it's just dishonest thing dishonest messaging at least i respect he's
00:04:52.500 francois blanchet he went to prime minister justin trudeau and he tried to get some concessions out
00:04:56.540 of him he tried to get you know boost some support uh for seniors and he also tried to you know get
00:05:01.760 some quebec specific policies you know as he is apt to do uh and you know after a few weeks of
00:05:06.960 negotiation he uh well before the negotiation he told the press straight up i'm gonna take a few weeks
00:05:11.860 and if the prime minister that makes no uh act takes no action to move towards our demands we're
00:05:17.240 going to call for an elect or call for election or tell the conservatives and the ndp to pull out uh
00:05:22.180 pull their support from the government he did that and then he told reporters yeah it's not we're not
00:05:26.360 getting anywhere we don't support the government that's how you are that's how you become a uh effective
00:05:31.280 negotiator you state your demands clearly and you act upon them and if the other party doesn't want to
00:05:36.420 budge you know you you you just pull out your support and jegme is saying he's been trying to
00:05:42.100 do this for three years and he hasn't made any progress whatsoever so uh has he really been trying
00:05:48.320 i don't know he's trying i just think he's really really incompetent i don't know what do you think
00:05:55.720 isaac do you think uh jegme singh's been trying or he's just really bad at his job look here's what
00:06:00.720 i'll say he mentioned the dental program which i saw justin trudeau tweet about oh the dental program
00:06:05.580 served one million canadians this is half the number of canadians that are attending a food
00:06:10.360 bank on i think a monthly basis or even daily which is two million canadians so talk about flawed
00:06:15.720 priorities and here really jagmeet singh i mean come on he's the poster boy for hypocrisy every single
00:06:22.420 thing that leaves his mouth or his x account is hypocritical all he does is bash the government as if
00:06:29.160 it's the bane of every canadian's existence which it is by the way and yet he's the only person
00:06:34.460 holding them up it's pretty messed up uh i will say this on pensions uh the canadian taxpayers
00:06:41.240 federation uh is presenting at committee next week on the issue of get this for disingenuousness
00:06:47.500 moving the election ahead by one week the the scheduled official election date in next october is
00:06:54.480 when it's technically supposed to happen bumping it ahead one week and this government actually has
00:06:59.820 the audacity to claim that it's because they don't want to interrupt with duali and not because a
00:07:05.440 whole bunch of members of parliament will automatically come into their pensions so if
00:07:10.760 they have it early around 80 mps or so roughly around there i think is the number a bunch of mps
00:07:17.040 regardless will not be able to get a pension but if they have it a week later bango bango because
00:07:23.120 they've served for six whole years they then qualify for a pension which of course we're calling them out on
00:07:28.480 that nonsense because if they're so worried about you know interrupting a really important festival
00:07:33.080 like duali just have it earlier why aren't you having it earlier guys why why later so yeah this
00:07:39.520 ridiculous hypocrisy do we want to jump over to the bureaucrat podcast extravaganza let's go so here at
00:07:48.180 the canadian taxpayers federation we have an investigative journalist like a real one he's paid by us he's on
00:07:54.120 salaries on staff ryan thorpe and he dug up these freedom of information requests that actually
00:07:59.820 surprised me i had no idea these things existed apparently departments the bureaucracies within the
00:08:07.940 federal government have their own podcasts yeah like statistics canada has its own podcasts i know
00:08:18.060 you're wondering how can i listen to this not this is the funniest part though is that these bureaucrat
00:08:27.300 podcasts that nobody listens to have cost the taxpayer nearly two million dollars so here it is this is
00:08:35.840 from our website at taxpayer.com you can just see here dozens of departments and agencies okay so this
00:08:40.940 isn't a one-off okay this isn't somebody at heritage committee or heritage department who's sad about
00:08:47.040 not being a journalist anymore and starts his or home only podcast no no no no this is like statistics
00:08:52.840 canada i bet you that the agency that manages our bridges also has a podcast and shocker nobody's
00:09:01.920 listening to these things but what's really crazy is again i don't understand how they manage to spend
00:09:08.300 nearly two million dollars because i asked this is not just the salaries of the involved bureaucrats
00:09:15.580 that we're adding up on an abacus no no this is actual billing this is like cost and you know
00:09:23.440 no offense noah to like the hole in your roof and stuff and like my microphone's pretty nice
00:09:28.360 it shouldn't cost two million dollars to put together a podcast what did you guys think about
00:09:33.220 this story completely absurd i mean you know this microphone here cost 30 i didn't pay 30 for i got it
00:09:40.220 at a contest at school but you know 30 microphone you know laptop you know most people have a laptop
00:09:47.300 or whatever you know you get like a five dollar cable and boom there's your podcast it's pretty
00:09:52.200 simple you know get some free audio recording software and there you go two million dollars i have
00:09:58.060 no clue where that money went are they getting like the you know some premium like microphones that
00:10:03.460 cost like ten thousand dollars and they're building out a whole studio for a podcast that are listened
00:10:08.200 to by like the people who actually produce the podcast and that's about it you know like it's
00:10:12.700 absurd and you know i was i was thinking like what are they talking about in these pockets i think like
00:10:17.540 housing infrastructure and communities canada are probably talking about the details of how they
00:10:21.700 pour the cement for like a bridge or whatever it's like hmm you know we pour the cement on an 86 degree
00:10:26.840 angle or something like that you know or you know like stats can they're gonna read you read to you like
00:10:32.860 some like boring fertility numbers or like oh you know this is the number of people that um you know
00:10:39.540 that came to this country as a tourist or whatever it's like nope nobody wants to hear these things
00:10:43.180 nobody wants to hear these things there's a reason why canadians uh are producing podcasts themselves
00:10:48.640 because you know they know what the canadian people want and they can deliver to the people
00:10:53.560 what they want and viewers get to choose with their dollars or with their time what podcasts they
00:11:00.600 decide to listen to however the federal government they're just you know unnaturally trying to force
00:11:05.820 this onto the canadian people the canadian people aren't listening to it and then how the canadian
00:11:09.240 people have to pay for it that is utterly insane it is it is yeah it is it's definitely a scandal but
00:11:16.900 you know obviously you know there's all these scandals on a daily basis that come out of the
00:11:21.020 government that you know we can't even keep track of so it's it you know this is like scandal
00:11:26.160 number 1584 so it's just it's just you know a long line of over and over again wasting taxpayers money
00:11:34.360 um and this is just another example of just an egregious uh waste of money that i hope a future
00:11:40.620 government uh will you know slash and you know cut back on i'm going to read some of the titles of
00:11:46.660 the podcast so but isaac i wanted to get your take in the meantime so are you are you subscribed now
00:11:51.100 are you like i was looking at you with anticipation chris because i'm like oh it looks like she has
00:11:55.900 something nice to share but uh what i will say is when you mentioned statistics canada had a podcast
00:12:01.620 like i'm a bit of a nerd so i got a bit excited like oh it's statistics canada podcast but i mean
00:12:05.380 really i i would be bored in two minutes i i would rather read their reports like they
00:12:09.260 are you like i'm like oh data nice nice we can learn about data uh but no uh how as for how this
00:12:19.360 two million dollars was spent i'm in the same boat as you know i don't see how this is in any way shape
00:12:24.320 or form possible other than maybe paying like agencies and people to boost your shows and in
00:12:30.100 ad i mean but again what are you doing boosting your viewers from two to four like what's the point
00:12:34.460 no one wants to listen to bureaucrats at the liberal government speak about their programs i mean
00:12:39.720 yeah chris do you have any um ideas into like what kind of shows we're looking at here okay so to be
00:12:46.060 clear like you know we didn't it isn't just the salaries that are added up into this they actually
00:12:51.220 cost money outside of their salaries like for example the podcast cost taxpayers 155 736 dollars
00:12:59.120 this is for one podcast okay the costs include nine thousand dollars for podcast training and
00:13:05.440 consultation two thousand dollars for equipment right like this is just nuts it racked up thirty
00:13:11.940 thousand dollars in expenses on top of salary costs like this is just one podcast this is a
00:13:18.400 really funny one though here i wanted to actually read this to you it was from statistics canada and
00:13:23.780 it was what they are actually talking about it's called a sayers podcast from statistics canada it
00:13:30.700 has 21 episodes since january of 2021 so i guess they were getting a little stir crazy too episode
00:13:37.620 topics have ranged from gender identity to climate change and misinformation and to systemic racism
00:13:45.480 this is a liberal party platform stats literally this is stats can this is not oh wow look at how
00:13:52.020 you know our population is changing like maybe we need better roads here no no no it's all the same
00:13:57.460 old stuff but it's just bureaucrats talking to each other when nobody listens to them and you get to pay
00:14:02.820 for it now to be clear like cards on the table if you want to have a podcast about like lgbtq plus ghosts
00:14:11.680 which actually one of them talked about i'm not kidding the word paranormal is in there in this kind
00:14:19.160 of stuff fill your boots honestly i'd probably go watch that show i'm a huge beetlejuice fan do it it's
00:14:25.180 really fun and entertaining but do it on your own time like don't make taxpayers pay for this stuff
00:14:31.120 and this is where it gets pretty wild because whenever we come forward and we say you know guys
00:14:35.460 um you have a 40 something billion dollar deficit could you maybe lay off the spending could you
00:14:41.580 balance the budget could you stop doubling the debt they just clutch their pearls and they say what
00:14:47.560 do you want to cut first you know dental care to old people or daycare to desperate children how
00:14:53.380 about you stop this number one anyway it was pretty good so guys go check it out it's all over the
00:15:00.040 even the mainstream media pick this up because it's so ridiculous look up government bureaucracy
00:15:05.320 podcasts and read the titles for yourself go listen to them seriously go listen to them you paid for
00:15:11.040 them you own those podcasts do we want to get to um where do we want to go from here do we want to get
00:15:15.580 to uh the cbc hosting the next debate is that where we're headed now boys yeah so uh essentially the
00:15:22.220 cbc is going to host the next federal leadership debate which is wonderful for those of you who have
00:15:27.440 ever watched debates in the united states and uh what happens with their moderators uh very very
00:15:32.840 fair and unbiased uh obviously this is uh sarcasm and i'm sure that we can expect the same with these
00:15:39.440 upcoming debates because um it should become as a surprise to nobody that pierre poilievre has been
00:15:45.860 very very critical of the cbc so by default you would expect them to treat him unfairly do you guys think
00:15:51.600 that we're going to see fair and unbiased unbiased moderated debates here coming up no not really i
00:16:01.740 remember watching the 2019 2021 leaders debates and i just remember thinking like wow the format of
00:16:08.240 these debates are really bad you know say what you want about the american presidential debates and how
00:16:12.920 the moderators go about uh doing their job but i think at least the format is pretty decent you know
00:16:18.160 the candidates they get some time to do their opening spiel and and then you know they get to
00:16:22.700 go back and forth with each other on you know the live mics and basically you know try and push back
00:16:27.880 on each other's ideas and really you know go at it whereas the the canadian debates are very very
00:16:33.040 sanitized you know they try and you know um just avoid all conflict and confrontation between the
00:16:40.200 candidates uh and even when they have you know open time to speak between the candidates uh you know
00:16:46.120 it just comes off as very uh tame and you know very muted now i hope uh that when pier poliev gets on
00:16:53.280 stage he's gonna try and you know flip the table and you know change that whole dynamic and it seemed
00:16:57.500 like andrew sheer tried to do that you know a little unsuccessfully i mean he did lose the election
00:17:01.360 but at least with the debates in america they're entertaining to watch especially the joe biden trump
00:17:08.180 one that it was pretty funny to watch uh so i and and the reason why viewership is going down for
00:17:14.720 these debates is because they are just very boring to watch even people who are very interested in
00:17:18.840 politics thinks they're boring which you know is saying something because you know these people
00:17:22.900 these people including myself are you know political like this is all we do our entire lives so
00:17:28.140 i think that when you are losing the people that are very interested in politics the people who are
00:17:32.820 not interested in politics but still need to make a voting decision they're just not going to tune in
00:17:36.740 they're just going to listen to uh what the candidates have to say and that that might be for the best
00:17:41.120 if you're not a fan of debates but it certainly isn't good you know that we're having the cbc host
00:17:46.420 it you know which is funded by taxpayer dollars instead of a instead of a network that could do
00:17:52.060 a much better job you know i'm not saying that ctv and global and all these other networks are amazing
00:17:57.320 but what i am saying is that you know they have the resources to put on such a debate and we are not
00:18:03.920 giving them these debates instead giving it to the public broadcaster who by and large has lost the
00:18:09.480 trust of the canadian people and it seems like an idiotic decision in line with everything that has
00:18:15.240 come in these past nine years so the mo the mainstream media has lost the trust of the public
00:18:21.320 like by and large i think it's around seven in ten canadians or americans even think that the
00:18:26.820 mainstream media is deliberately misleading them these aren't oopsies or accidentally mispronouncing a
00:18:31.480 name or getting a date wrong or something which happens to all of us because we're human
00:18:34.180 um but no like i think around 70 give or take of people actually believe that they're deliberately
00:18:40.020 trying to mislead them and they should think that because some of the stuff that we've seen pulled
00:18:44.060 here on either side of the aisle is pretty crazy um from the taxpayer's perspective we want lower taxes
00:18:49.940 less waste and more accountable government so for us we want things to be as simple and bare bones and
00:18:56.180 basic and clear as possible so if someone for example like steve pakin um is very balanced he asks very
00:19:03.220 serious insightful questions you can't tell how the guy votes which is how it should be with
00:19:09.140 journalists um and so if he's someone like him is asking the questions and if you have an audience
00:19:14.820 that is invited from all different uh perspectives on the political spectrum i mean they can't hoot and
00:19:19.780 holler and throw things of course but if they're there to naturally respond to what people are saying
00:19:24.660 in the room that's really good for accountability and asking people questions and kind of keeping the
00:19:29.780 room kind of a good human tone if that makes sense and so as long as it's that nice and bare bones and
00:19:36.420 well done produced where isn't wasting a lot of money no ridiculous little sound effects like they
00:19:41.620 did with the conservative party leadership debate remember that i'd rather not think about it that
00:19:46.340 was so embarrassing um with the sad trombone sound effects like and then like what's your favorite
00:19:51.300 book you know what would netflix show are you watching lately it's like please please don't do repeat
00:19:55.860 that do you like long walks on the beach no that's silly we want to know you know how are you going
00:20:01.780 to be spending our money what do you think about things like government accountability like i don't
00:20:06.020 know recall legislation at the federal level good stuff like that where people can actually hold their
00:20:11.620 politicians to account um that's the kind of stuff meat and potatoes good stuff that we look for
00:20:16.980 in a debate and as long as it's done that way and efficiently uh our people are pretty happy
00:20:21.860 um speaking of people being happy did we want to get to our our kicker i apparently something's
00:20:26.660 happening in the united states this coming tuesday yeah something big eh yeah are we going to do
00:20:32.500 predictions or what are we doing here what do we think is going to happen uh isaac you take that one
00:20:35.940 away okay uh i i definitely and i'm going to hold you to this if it doesn't work i definitely predict
00:20:43.380 trump to win um i what i really hope for is that the election is fair and there's little question of
00:20:51.540 election integrity and and i don't know if it goes the opposite direction and and there's some
00:20:58.020 really sketchy things that happen obviously that's going to just create more unrest in the united states
00:21:02.500 and i don't want to see what that could crumble into so i i really do think trump will win i don't know
00:21:08.820 by what margin i'm thinking but i mean i i expect him to have a decisive victory um yeah i think i'm if
00:21:16.820 you're republican you know my prediction is a little less optimistic i think it'll be a coin toss
00:21:21.140 you know i have a coin here so let's say heads is trump uh tails is kamala and we got trump so you
00:21:28.180 know yeah there we go that that's that's what's gonna happen and trump's gonna win but no in all
00:21:33.060 honesty you know i think it's a coin toss i think that you know both campaigns have you know fell into
00:21:38.740 their uh respective you know pitfalls um you know trump he shot himself in the foot by you know inviting
00:21:44.580 tony hinchcliffe uh on into the msg rally which you know if you even if you like the joke it was
00:21:50.740 not a good idea to uh you know have a guy come up and do racial jokes just like it's not a good idea 0.85
00:21:55.700 when kamala harris is inviting megan the stallion on stage you know shake a rump or whatever uh or you 1.00
00:22:01.460 know at least rap about songs about that stuff uh you know and then you know biden he also you know
00:22:06.820 shot her his uh vice president in the foot when he said that uh you know trump's people are garbage
00:22:12.660 uh yeah so so definitely both campaigns ran flawed you know mixed campaigns they had their high
00:22:18.020 moments they had their low lights uh so i i think it'll definitely come down to you know a few uh
00:22:23.940 swing states it looks like pennsylvania uh could swing either way although it looks like maybe trump
00:22:29.140 will win that uh maybe michigan will go to harris it really depends on on you know just a few states in
00:22:35.460 the united states uh on how this election will be determined but i i think that in the event of a
00:22:42.500 trump president of a harris victory uh we're going to see trump deny the deny the results you know
00:22:49.460 like it looks like he's you know lobbying himself up for that and uh you know i i think that it'll be
00:22:55.780 helpful uh to healing the uh sort of american consciousness if he doesn't do that if he if
00:23:01.620 he generally does lose so um we'll we'll see uh but yeah it's definitely a coin toss in my opinion
00:23:07.700 as a long time journalist uh both mainstream and alternative or startup journalist um i'm
00:23:13.300 always tell everybody watch the clips for yourself go back watch if you can watch the entire speech
00:23:20.820 trust me go do it yourself and listen to it so in that spirit i actually wanted to play the clip
00:23:27.300 that noah is referencing there to set this up again like he was pointing out there was that massive rally
00:23:32.660 at madison square garden some comedian got up there and told i thought it was a stupid joke and
00:23:38.100 completely pointless and anybody who's planning a political organization campaign shouldn't book
00:23:42.420 people like that okay pro tip for free um so he said some stupid joke and then who is still currently
00:23:48.980 the sitting president of the united states of america joe biden was doing an interview looks like
00:23:54.340 it was some form of like a skype interview and he was responding to that joke this is what he said roll
00:24:01.380 tape i i i don't know the puerto rican that that i know or puerto rico where i'm in my home state of
00:24:08.420 delaware they're good decent honorable people the only garbage i see floating out there is his supporters
00:24:15.060 yeah so if you're watching american stuff that that's making a lot of waves and it's even uh spurred uh
00:24:21.940 former president trump to even climb into a garbage truck that was quite the photo op um and get a lot of
00:24:28.900 press out of it so again this is the kind of i'm a big fan of professional wrestling um and it looks
00:24:35.540 an awful lot like wwf in the few days leading up to it from the taxpayers perspective it doesn't really
00:24:41.620 affect canadian taxpayers necessarily the main thing though are things like pipelines going to
00:24:46.100 the united states that's a big one and possible trade tariffs so we got to keep a real close eye on
00:24:52.660 that because that could definitely affect taxpayers up here on this side of the border uh gentlemen thank you
00:24:57.460 so much uh for your great show today folks if you have any comments or questions please feel free
00:25:02.740 to hit up the true north website and remember everything we've said here is off the record
00:25:15.380 yeah chris uh i watched the uh uh rogan trump interview obviously and and trump really was
00:25:21.220 presenting himself as the the king of tariffs like all he did have the podcast was talk about
00:25:26.100 tariffs i'm really curious uh what what does this ctf think about that because obviously if trump takes
00:25:30.900 office he's going to implement all of these tariffs based on what he was saying on that show there
00:25:35.620 so it goes two ways uh so if we had tariffs for example like good or bad like i've you know i've got
00:25:41.380 a streak of prairie populism in me too of let's make everything in canada and have it all homegrown like
00:25:46.740 i'm a bit torn um but i also understand the importance of international trade like sweden
00:25:53.540 about 120 years ago was literally starving to death because we didn't have international trade of food
00:25:59.220 so international trade is super important um tariffs you can even call them import taxes
00:26:07.780 because that's what they are now the question though is with the united states are they big and
00:26:14.340 powerful enough of an economy that if trump does impose tariffs it is tit for tat to use like you
00:26:20.340 know a weird expression um will they actually suffer financially by having tariffs or will other
00:26:27.300 players have to step up to the plate like happened when he was first president
00:26:31.540 so when he was first president keep in mind he was started hitting china with these tariffs
00:26:37.300 and then what did we get covet like i'm not kidding that was just a couple months later
00:26:44.340 so this is like big boy marbles now