Order of Man - January 24, 2017


097: A Man of Style | Antonio Centeno


Episode Stats

Length

44 minutes

Words per Minute

217.65512

Word Count

9,745

Sentence Count

611

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

27


Summary

Antonio Centeno with Real Men, Real Style shares with us how important style is, the benefits of improving the way you look, what core components you should consider when improving your wardrobe, and how you can become a man of style.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Men, make sure you stay with me on this one because style, although it is often overlooked,
00:00:04.280 really is a critical component of helping you become a better man.
00:00:07.520 More often than not, the way you look and the way that you show up says a lot to other
00:00:11.260 people about who you are.
00:00:13.040 My guest today, Antonio Centeno with Real Men, Real Style, shares with us how important
00:00:17.100 style is, the benefits of improving the way you look, what core components you should
00:00:22.380 consider when improving your wardrobe, and how you can become a man of style.
00:00:26.360 You're a man of action.
00:00:27.440 You live life to the fullest.
00:00:29.320 Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.
00:00:32.260 When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.
00:00:36.720 You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.
00:00:41.740 This is your life.
00:00:42.860 This is who you are.
00:00:44.300 This is who you will become at the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can
00:00:49.340 call yourself a man.
00:00:51.360 Gentlemen, what is going on today?
00:00:52.560 My name is Ryan Mickler, and I am the host and the founder of Order of Man.
00:00:55.520 Whether you're new or have been listening to us for the last couple of years, you are
00:00:58.680 now tuned into the best podcast available for men.
00:01:02.540 Today, we're talking specifically about style, but we also cover health, relationships, peak
00:01:07.340 performance, self-defense, psychology, just about anything else that is going to help you
00:01:11.460 and I become better men.
00:01:13.140 Now, if you don't already know, this is an interview show, but we also have a show released
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00:02:17.220 Now, let me go ahead and introduce you to my guest today and friend, Antonio Centeno.
00:02:21.100 I initially came across Antonio's work with Real Men, Real Style as I was considering launching
00:02:26.260 Order of Man in early 2015.
00:02:29.420 But since then, I've been able to build a relationship and a friendship with him.
00:02:33.820 This man knows a ton about style and fashion and not just clothing, but the psychology of increasing
00:02:39.600 your style, body language, manners and mannerisms, and just about anything else that's going to
00:02:44.060 help you increase your overall presence, the presence that you have in this world.
00:02:48.340 He's the founder of Real Men, Real Style, like I previously mentioned, but he's got over
00:02:52.460 a million subscribers on his YouTube channel.
00:02:55.040 And we talk about this at a little bit in the show, but he's got over 700 videos there
00:02:58.720 and he literally has thousands of articles, videos, courses.
00:03:02.520 They're all going to help you understand how clothing fits into this conversation of masculinity.
00:03:07.580 He's the co-founder of Men's Style Con along with Aaron Marino with I Am Alpha M.
00:03:12.320 And we do talk a little bit about this during the show, but it is definitely something that
00:03:16.200 you should consider attending if you really want to be a man of style.
00:03:21.300 Antonio, what's going on?
00:03:22.160 Thanks for joining me on the show today.
00:03:23.680 Hey, you're welcome, Ryan.
00:03:24.660 It's good to be here.
00:03:25.380 You are all the way in Ukraine, so we're on the other side of the planet.
00:03:28.700 But nonetheless, we're making this work, right?
00:03:31.220 That's right.
00:03:32.100 That's right.
00:03:32.520 And we'll be together here soon.
00:03:33.780 Going to be at my Style Con event.
00:03:35.140 And yeah, we were just talking right before this interview how it is great to see people
00:03:41.160 on a regular basis and to be a part of their growth.
00:03:44.080 Yeah.
00:03:44.200 Well, no, I got to tell you, I appreciate everything that you – in fact, you may or may not know
00:03:49.080 this, but I actually attribute Style Con two years ago to actually the launch.
00:03:53.340 It corresponded with the launch of Order of Man and I attribute a lot of the success,
00:03:56.580 early success of Order of Man to the event that you put on and the connections that I made
00:04:01.000 with you and Aaron and all the other guys and the ability that we've had to stay in touch.
00:04:04.260 So I got to tell you, first and foremost, I appreciate you and what you've done and
00:04:07.220 how you've showed up for me in my life and business as well.
00:04:10.520 Hey, you're welcome, man.
00:04:11.400 I'm still waiting for that check though.
00:04:12.720 It's coming.
00:04:13.380 Just keep waiting.
00:04:14.060 It takes a long time to get to Ukraine.
00:04:15.920 So –
00:04:16.320 Hey, so I want to ask you because this is a question that gets brought up a lot and
00:04:21.800 I think there's maybe some misunderstanding or just some misinformation about style and what
00:04:27.400 role style actually plays in masculinity and that's the conversation I want to have with
00:04:32.000 you today.
00:04:32.420 Would you mind maybe giving us a brief overview of why style is even critical in the conversation
00:04:38.060 of masculinity?
00:04:39.980 Sure.
00:04:40.380 I don't get that deep.
00:04:42.880 I think you've probably had or you've talked about other guys like Brett over at the Art
00:04:46.640 of Manliness and Tanner Guzzi over at Masculine Style or what they covered there.
00:04:52.000 For me, it's pretty darn simple.
00:04:54.440 When I was in the United States Marine Corps, Marines paid attention to the uniforms and we
00:04:59.080 had inspections, it was just something that initially, you know, I didn't understand like
00:05:03.660 really what's the point?
00:05:04.720 Why are they so specific?
00:05:06.480 It's about attention to detail and it's also about an understanding that when you live in
00:05:12.080 a very visual world and that you look at a lion, you look at a lion's mane, what does
00:05:16.780 that symbolize?
00:05:17.800 For that animal, it symbolizes health.
00:05:20.000 It symbolizes where he's at in his life and where he fits in society.
00:05:25.400 And, you know, you look at peacocks, same thing.
00:05:27.700 You look, I mean, just throughout the animal kingdom.
00:05:29.440 And I think with men in general, our image, our style, our presentation, whatever you want
00:05:35.500 to call it.
00:05:36.360 And I think that's where a lot of the problem runs into is people have, you know, they just,
00:05:40.420 it's the same thing, but they view it differently.
00:05:42.720 However you want to say it, for me, it's about how you present yourself in society.
00:05:48.380 So people make that snap judgment.
00:05:50.600 And I do think that a man has to have a strong inner core.
00:05:54.240 He needs to stand for something.
00:05:55.900 He needs to spend time on his education and self-development.
00:05:59.200 But how we present ourselves to the world is one of our main, if not for most people,
00:06:04.060 their main sense of making sense of this world.
00:06:06.840 So why would you shoot yourself in the foot and put out a, you know, give this feeling that
00:06:11.700 you aren't that, that man that you want to represent, that you know yourself to be.
00:06:16.340 Right.
00:06:16.540 Yeah.
00:06:16.760 You know, what's really fascinating as you talk about this is that a lot of guys will
00:06:21.240 say, well, that's not fair.
00:06:23.440 It shouldn't be based on the way we look.
00:06:25.680 You hear this in society today, but my thought is that's reality.
00:06:28.940 So why not?
00:06:29.640 We, why don't we operate in reality and just accept the fact and use it to our advantage
00:06:33.380 rather than our disadvantage, right?
00:06:35.220 That's a bad word in my household.
00:06:36.960 The word fair.
00:06:37.780 I talked to my kids about that.
00:06:39.000 I'm like, life is not fair.
00:06:40.960 And I need to, I don't know who started pushing out that we were all going to be treated
00:06:45.320 equal.
00:06:45.740 But if you look around, I mean, you know, I'm, I'm happy that, you know, I don't want
00:06:51.820 to, you know, get off topic too much, but you know, life is not fair and just go to a kid's
00:06:57.120 cancer ward.
00:06:57.800 That's not fair at all.
00:06:59.060 You know, these kids did nothing and they're, they're dying of cancer and you know, it, life
00:07:03.540 is just what it is and it's the reality.
00:07:05.940 And if you don't deal with it, I mean, I look at the kids that, because I was, you know,
00:07:10.720 I've got, I've got friends that are, you know, dealt with stuff like that.
00:07:13.900 And to me, what gets people through that is that they don't, they don't look at the suck
00:07:18.560 and how bad it is.
00:07:19.500 They, they, they make, may have a little bit of humor with it.
00:07:21.920 They have fun with it.
00:07:22.740 They say, well, at least, you know, I'm going to, um, you know, they, they approach it with
00:07:26.940 that, that mentality.
00:07:27.960 But I think if you're saying it's not fair, what you're saying is it's just not a priority to
00:07:32.620 me or I don't understand it and therefore I don't want to put effort or I'm lazy or
00:07:36.260 I just wanted to hand it to you and I'm sorry, but nothing in life that is worth having is
00:07:42.080 going to be handed to you.
00:07:43.580 Yeah.
00:07:43.780 Yeah.
00:07:44.020 Great point.
00:07:44.660 Solid point.
00:07:45.400 So I'm going to go back to one of the animals you used as an example, because I think this
00:07:49.540 is the extreme that I think a lot of guys will take this to as well.
00:07:52.460 You mentioned peacocks and I think what a lot of guys, especially the quote unquote manly
00:07:56.400 men are maybe concerned that if they improve their style, they don't want to take it too
00:08:02.420 far or don't want to be ridiculed or don't want to go overboard with this idea of being
00:08:07.500 fashionable because they, they will probably get mocked to some degree.
00:08:10.880 Talk to me a little bit about that and your thoughts around that.
00:08:13.340 Well, you know, that's the same guy that maybe is in pretty bad shape and he says, well,
00:08:16.900 you know, I don't want to start lifting weights because I don't want to become really
00:08:19.340 buff.
00:08:19.940 It's like, well, come on.
00:08:21.340 You know, that's a, that's a good problem to have when you've got people saying, wow,
00:08:26.380 you know, you're really are looking good.
00:08:28.160 You're making me look bad.
00:08:29.420 Okay.
00:08:29.940 That, that you may want to tone it down.
00:08:32.020 You may want to reevaluate your style.
00:08:34.300 You may want to change things up a bit and more go for an understated look, but that's
00:08:38.300 a good problem.
00:08:39.280 You know, versus where you, most guys are at right now is they're wearing clothing that's
00:08:42.900 two sizes too big.
00:08:44.160 So, you know, I, I don't really, I go back at that.
00:08:47.300 I'm like, let's, let's have that problem because that's a better one than where you're at
00:08:51.620 currently right now, which is most guys don't even care.
00:08:54.980 They don't even, they don't even know that this is something that is holding them back.
00:08:59.920 Why is that?
00:09:00.800 Why?
00:09:01.020 I mean, is that, is that something that just, why is it not on their radar?
00:09:05.140 I think, you know, there's a lot of factors that go into that.
00:09:08.280 It used to be, you know, that we understood the importance of presentation.
00:09:11.940 I mean, you go back and you look at various presidents throughout history.
00:09:15.360 I mean, these guys were sharp dressed men.
00:09:17.240 George Washington, you know, wore a pair of shoes with diamond buckles on them.
00:09:21.140 I mean, these were guys that, you know, he wore false teeth.
00:09:24.240 He wore a wig for a reason.
00:09:26.400 The wig symbolized actually your position in society, who you were, all of these things.
00:09:31.340 I mean, they paid attention.
00:09:32.440 And then at some point we started devaluing somehow putting, trying to push it down.
00:09:37.820 I don't think there's a great plot out there.
00:09:40.100 I just simply think that, you know, you look at manufacturing a lot.
00:09:43.700 You know, it used to be that all men had custom clothing because all of us had to make our
00:09:47.560 own clothing.
00:09:48.300 Then about a hundred years ago, we had the manufacturers come in a lot of off-the-rack
00:09:52.580 clothing, mass manufactured.
00:09:54.860 And guess what?
00:09:55.480 For mass cheap manufactured clothing, you want to have something that fits everybody.
00:10:00.280 Therefore, it fits nobody.
00:10:02.260 And that's in a lot of skills like tailoring, like getting clothing to adjust.
00:10:06.460 It has become less.
00:10:08.220 It's just something we don't do because our clothing has become so cheap.
00:10:12.380 It used to be that you had to save up.
00:10:14.480 You didn't have actually much clothing.
00:10:16.440 And so you wore what you had again and again.
00:10:19.360 It had to be interchangeable.
00:10:20.940 It wasn't a, it was a luxury to have nice clothing.
00:10:25.060 And nowadays it's become something where we spend a lot of money on things that didn't
00:10:29.140 exist before.
00:10:30.080 So we're spending big money on an iPhone, but yet we're not wanting to invest in a
00:10:34.520 pair of shoes or a sports jacket, which is probably going to actually get a much stronger
00:10:38.760 symbol of who we are and what we stand for.
00:10:41.280 Right.
00:10:41.460 And you talk about this a lot.
00:10:42.740 And this is something that I've learned even just over the past couple of years, because
00:10:45.340 I don't consider myself someone to be a fashionable or even frankly, a stylish guy.
00:10:50.540 But one of the things that I've learned a lot from you and some of the other speakers and
00:10:54.780 bloggers at StyleCon is the concept of buying timeless items that are very versatile.
00:11:02.180 Talk to me about that because you could break the bank, but I don't think you need to if you're
00:11:06.480 trying to improve your style.
00:11:08.460 Sure.
00:11:08.700 You know, I go down to my style pyramid, which is fit, fabric and function.
00:11:13.940 And, you know, if you follow those things right there, you're going to be able to, you're
00:11:18.420 going to be able to spend money and not waste it.
00:11:20.780 So I do try to identify certain things in the man's wardrobe.
00:11:23.880 It really depends on what his career needs are.
00:11:26.920 And I like to focus there first, because when you're going out there, whether you're a banker,
00:11:31.000 whether you're a consultant, whether you are a master electrician, whether you are a, you
00:11:36.040 know, you sweep the streets, whatever it is you do, there's oftentimes a uniform.
00:11:40.540 And I want to make sure that guys are dressing appropriately, that they're dressing in a manner
00:11:44.980 like if you're a young up and coming lawyer, in your mind, there is a vision of what a successful
00:11:52.040 lawyer looks like.
00:11:53.480 Well, you might as well start practicing becoming that and dressing like that successful man you
00:11:58.820 know you will be in 10 years, because it's going to take you years to develop that style,
00:12:03.860 to get used to wearing it.
00:12:05.600 And you're right.
00:12:06.560 So with that, you know, with that lawyer example, a suit is a great option.
00:12:10.960 However, you know, a lot of guys, maybe they work in blue collar jobs.
00:12:14.320 Let's say they're an auto worker, or maybe they work in a factory down in Alabama.
00:12:18.620 Whatever it may be, there is clothing, there are certain pieces.
00:12:22.720 Maybe it's going to be a nice, you know, maybe up in Michigan, if they're an auto worker.
00:12:26.600 I saw that Ford actually is moving some of their manufacturing back to Michigan.
00:12:30.220 Great thing.
00:12:30.840 But Michigan has some pretty tough winters.
00:12:32.920 And when you're going to and from work, probably you're going to be wearing a jacket quite a
00:12:37.480 bit, getting in and out of your vehicle.
00:12:38.960 But I would say for these guys, probably having some decent outerwear, maybe some Carhartts.
00:12:44.720 You know, Carhartt, it's a good quality, made in the Midwest, I still believe.
00:12:48.820 And I know whenever I used to do radio communication tower work, there were Carhartts, and then there
00:12:55.040 were a lot of other imitation.
00:12:56.660 But you would oftentimes splurge for the Carhartts, not because you were some hipster, but
00:13:01.220 they actually were made of better quality.
00:13:03.900 They stood up to the test of time.
00:13:05.500 And when I was up on those radio communication towers, and it was, you know, this is in Iowa,
00:13:10.000 it's freezing cold.
00:13:10.940 I wanted something actually with higher armholes because it gave me more freedom of movement.
00:13:15.560 And they just simply fit and looked and worked better.
00:13:18.820 So it was about like having the right type of gear and being able to get the job done.
00:13:22.900 And then the fact, you know, you talk about quality, but you're also talking about the
00:13:26.720 fact that they're just going to last longer.
00:13:28.280 So buying pieces that are maybe more expensive, but of higher quality is probably the more cost
00:13:35.060 effective thing to do rather than having to buy new jackets or new pants or a new suit
00:13:39.140 every single year, right?
00:13:41.660 Yeah.
00:13:42.040 I mean, I am a big advocate of you buying less and what you have wearing it into the ground.
00:13:48.400 Like everything, when you, you know, one thing I've, it's taken me years to do this, but
00:13:53.120 when I look into my wardrobe, I love every single piece in there.
00:13:58.240 And oftentimes, you know, that sometimes means I don't have a lot of variation in certain
00:14:01.720 items because I, I love certain colors.
00:14:04.140 I love certain looks.
00:14:05.040 When it comes to shirts, I really like dark Navy shirts.
00:14:08.840 I've probably got like 10 of them, but there are small different variation, you know, with
00:14:12.520 the style, some of them have like a pocket on one chest and they have double pockets.
00:14:16.560 Most of them have no pockets and they have contrasting buttons, but when it comes down
00:14:20.440 to it, I love that look.
00:14:22.060 It matches a lot of things in my wardrobe and, you know, that, that's just kind of my
00:14:26.100 go-to pieces.
00:14:27.580 And, you know, I, so I, again, depending on what their career path is, you know, that's
00:14:32.080 where I would steer them to, to find what they love, which they know looks good for them.
00:14:36.520 And we can get into a lot more detail about complexion, all this other stuff.
00:14:40.140 And I cover that over on my website.
00:14:41.460 But once you start, you know, it becomes so easy for you to wear clothing that you love
00:14:46.780 and you love the way you look when you walk out that door, you feel like a million bucks
00:14:50.500 and people pick up on that confidence.
00:14:52.620 Oh, for sure.
00:14:53.160 Yeah, no, I know exactly what you're saying because every time I buy a new shirt, my wife
00:14:56.720 will send me a message or send me a text and she's like, let me guess, it's a blue checkered
00:15:00.740 shirt or a black t-shirt because those are my two go-to items.
00:15:04.180 So I definitely know what you're talking about, but how do you, how do you even begin to
00:15:08.180 find your style or even level up your style?
00:15:11.080 Because I know when I've tried to improve the way that I look with my clothes and that
00:15:16.680 sort of thing that I feel somewhat uncomfortable or even out of place because it's not something
00:15:23.540 that I'm used to.
00:15:24.860 So I'll take a step right back to what we talked about earlier, that style pyramid, fit,
00:15:29.760 fabric and function.
00:15:31.440 Actually, I'll put function ahead of the fabric, but imagine like a stool.
00:15:34.660 So it's got three legs.
00:15:35.580 First off, make sure that the clothing you own does actually fit you.
00:15:40.960 And if you're not willing to invest in that clothing, to take it to a tailor, to get it
00:15:44.800 adjusted to fit you, then it may not even be something that you want to keep.
00:15:48.560 So a nice, well-fitted pair of jeans.
00:15:51.040 A lot of guys, they're wearing jeans, they never get them hemmed.
00:15:54.120 So they're wearing them too long.
00:15:55.660 And you can tell because look at the back.
00:15:57.080 You notice how they're literally tearing in the back because they're wearing them too
00:16:01.100 long.
00:16:01.220 So little, small things like that, actually wearing a pair that fits you properly, maybe
00:16:06.320 size down.
00:16:07.160 Most men are wearing clothing that's way too large for them.
00:16:10.900 And there's a difference between somebody being, you know, a lot of guys think that,
00:16:15.120 oh, it's going to be uncomfortable.
00:16:16.240 It's going to be too tight.
00:16:17.460 Not necessarily.
00:16:18.320 You're just not used to wearing something that actually fits your body.
00:16:22.400 And I'm not talking about wearing tight, skinny jeans here.
00:16:25.740 No, if you want to get into that, our buddy Ryan Megan, he's all into skinny jeans.
00:16:30.000 That's exactly what came to mind for me too.
00:16:32.200 Yeah.
00:16:32.700 And Ryan, Ryan does his thing.
00:16:34.720 I love his, I mean, he, he is great.
00:16:37.180 And definitely go check out what Ryan's doing.
00:16:39.060 He's a good friend.
00:16:40.020 But you know, for me, I'm more of, okay, I'm going to, I'm not, I'm going to say if
00:16:44.440 you are going for that loose carpenter type of jeans and you're not a carpenter, let's
00:16:49.220 maybe just go with a regular pair, regular cut, go with Levi's, go with Lee, whatever one
00:16:54.760 of the Wrangler, whatever the brand it is, but go with the regular cut and actually
00:16:59.000 say, Hey, this actually doesn't, you know, I try wearing it for a day or two.
00:17:03.040 Because one thing about jeans is they will stretch out, but getting and identifying that
00:17:06.880 perfect pair of jeans, maybe getting it hemmed a bit, that right there is going to be a
00:17:11.260 big step for a lot of guys.
00:17:12.560 Then all of a sudden it's shirts on shirts.
00:17:15.480 So often guys have all this billowing fabric in and around the waist area, get that trimmed
00:17:20.720 in.
00:17:21.300 Maybe you probably have certain colors that you gravitate towards naturally.
00:17:25.620 Most men are pretty good at actually naturally picking out their favorite colors.
00:17:30.280 We're just drawn to them.
00:17:31.140 We say we're, I mean, I know for me, green has always been my favorite color.
00:17:34.440 I do like blue, but so I gravitate towards olive green.
00:17:38.640 I've got some olive green sports jackets.
00:17:40.500 I've got an olive green shirt.
00:17:42.100 I've got a pair of olive green Chino, but I really like it in jackets.
00:17:45.880 That's where I found that it works in my wardrobe.
00:17:48.200 So there are certain colors that you gravitate towards and find out where you can, we can fit
00:17:51.860 them in, but getting back to the fit item, you know, it's making sure those, get those
00:17:56.840 shirts adjusted.
00:17:57.780 If, you know, also looking at, do I need to rebuy an item?
00:18:01.500 If there's something that you wear all the time, there is nothing wrong with what you
00:18:05.820 said about, Hey, you know, going with a number of black t-shirts.
00:18:09.280 If you like the way the black t-shirt looks on you, well, there was another guy's name
00:18:12.760 was Steve Jobs.
00:18:13.620 Last time I heard he was pretty successful and he had a uniform, which most people remember
00:18:18.500 it was that turtleneck.
00:18:20.100 It was those jeans.
00:18:21.220 It was those, it was those new balance.
00:18:22.780 I think there were new balance running shoes.
00:18:24.680 I mean, that was his uniform.
00:18:26.300 He, you know, he wore it again and again.
00:18:28.380 Mark Zuckerberg, same thing.
00:18:29.900 He's got gray sweats, gray hoodies, gray shirts.
00:18:33.440 I mean that he's to put up a picture of his wardrobe.
00:18:36.520 It's the same thing.
00:18:37.660 I mean, it's, it's kind of crazy, but for other guys and he can do that.
00:18:41.220 He owns a billion, both these guys are a billion dollar companies.
00:18:44.080 They can do that.
00:18:45.100 But you know what?
00:18:45.760 In the banking industry, if you are, you know, you're working and you're having to wear
00:18:49.120 a suit, there's nothing wrong with having a number of, hey, you really like navy blue.
00:18:53.540 Maybe you've got a few variations, but you've got three to five navy blue suits.
00:18:57.600 Maybe there's small variations with them and you keep your shirts pretty darn simple.
00:19:01.900 Maybe you change up your ties, your pocket squares, the shoes, a few things like that.
00:19:05.880 But that's perfectly fine because for me, the clothing is not, I'm not, I used the example
00:19:12.120 of the peacock, but that's often misused.
00:19:14.680 I know it's in the pickup area.
00:19:16.020 They talk about peacocking and things like that.
00:19:18.660 But if you look at the actual animal, it's, it's a, you know, it's a big deal, you know,
00:19:22.920 to be able to grow.
00:19:24.080 It's a sign of health.
00:19:25.380 It's a sign of good genetic material in, you know, their world.
00:19:29.300 It's a big thing and it's not, you know, peacocks don't look at themselves as peacocking.
00:19:33.520 They just look at it.
00:19:34.200 Hey, I'm basically going to be able to pass my jeans on to the next generation and you
00:19:39.860 know, that that's, so I've got a little bit of evolutionary biology in my background as
00:19:43.800 well.
00:19:44.060 So I'm, you know, for me, I look at, Hey, you know, what do you want to get from this
00:19:49.680 clothing?
00:19:50.140 And that's, you know, that's a whole nother topic I could get into with the why you dress
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00:20:49.200 Now, let me get back to my interview with Antonio.
00:20:51.360 You talk about even the consistency in the way that, you know, Bill Gates or Steve Jobs
00:20:58.760 or Mark Zuckerberg show up in the world.
00:21:00.880 Is there a value, a perceived value from others in being somewhat and relatively consistent
00:21:06.540 in your appearance?
00:21:08.300 Well, I mean, every time you go to see a doctor, what do you expect?
00:21:11.220 Sure.
00:21:11.540 Yeah.
00:21:11.680 The white coat.
00:21:12.420 Yeah.
00:21:13.040 The white coat.
00:21:13.660 I mean, for some industries, yeah.
00:21:15.080 I mean, if I've, it's two o'clock in the morning and my wife is home blown and, you
00:21:19.360 know, she's in a big city and we need, you know, we've got the toilet backing up and
00:21:23.340 there's a knock at the door, uh, cause I called, you know, a master, you know, a plumber
00:21:27.240 to come in and help fix the situation.
00:21:28.880 And the guy outside looks like he's drunk and in a torn up t-shirt and, you know, flip
00:21:33.440 flops.
00:21:33.840 Is she going to open the door, you know, with three young kids in the apartment?
00:21:38.460 Right.
00:21:38.620 No, she's going to say, who is it?
00:21:39.940 Yeah.
00:21:40.060 Who is this guy?
00:21:40.980 Uh, but if he, if he's got a nice uniform, if he's got, you know, his name tag there, Tim.
00:21:46.100 And if I told her Tim would be stopping by and he's got the other, you know, Roto-Rooter
00:21:50.460 over on the right hand, you know, it's like these things, they're small, but they're visual
00:21:54.420 and that's, you know, that sends that signal.
00:21:56.960 So I do think there is, you know, a sports jacket or a suit.
00:22:00.900 It's not going to at the, you know, after someone has spoken with you for a while, it's
00:22:05.260 not going to protect you for everything.
00:22:06.620 But I look at it almost like a suit of armor because we have been bombarded with television
00:22:12.460 and with everything we see that this is something we should trust.
00:22:16.320 So I do like it because I do think it gives you a few extra seconds.
00:22:19.700 And if you've got an important message, whether you're in sales, whether you're running a
00:22:23.660 nonprofit, I do think that this can give you that few extra seconds so that you can get
00:22:29.000 your message across.
00:22:30.180 Yeah.
00:22:30.660 And you know, the other side of this too, is that if you can stand out for the right
00:22:34.360 reasons, I need to, I need to qualify that for the right reasons.
00:22:37.040 I think that's really important too, because it's, it's really easy to get lost in this
00:22:41.140 sea of sameness.
00:22:42.280 I know I use my, my beard, for example, I like having a beard, but the other side of
00:22:46.720 it is that it distinguishes me.
00:22:48.260 It sets me apart.
00:22:49.060 It makes me unique.
00:22:49.940 And so people begin to recognize that.
00:22:52.180 And even I can stand out from a crowd.
00:22:54.280 So, so that's part of the deal too, I think.
00:22:56.780 Right.
00:22:57.700 Oh yeah.
00:22:58.320 Yeah.
00:22:58.500 I had a friend, he was actually a former, uh, former force Marine or Marines.
00:23:02.900 Uh, and this guy, I mean, he bought a number of suits from me, but he started a business
00:23:07.540 in which they were selling high, I mean, surfboards as art.
00:23:11.340 And so he was going to all these big art exhibits in New York and everyone else is wearing suits
00:23:16.020 and really nice, but they were wearing surf gear, you know, at the, I mean, that was their
00:23:19.880 uniform and it made sense with what they were doing.
00:23:23.000 And they also stood out from the crowd.
00:23:25.280 And, you know, I, I thought that that was a good call.
00:23:27.520 You know, it's right there, you know, right there.
00:23:30.500 They stand out, they're memorable.
00:23:31.740 It works with, but I think for a lot of guys, they haven't even thought this through.
00:23:35.740 They think, Oh, I'm a jeans and t-shirt kind of guy.
00:23:38.480 We'll look around.
00:23:39.380 Everyone else is wearing the jeans and t-shirt with the same ball cap.
00:23:42.500 Sure.
00:23:42.740 You are following a fashion trend.
00:23:44.980 I'm sorry.
00:23:45.520 Most guys don't even know they are like, they're following the fashion trends that are currently
00:23:50.480 going on right now.
00:23:51.560 And they don't even know it.
00:23:52.520 Oh yeah.
00:23:52.780 That's interesting.
00:23:53.360 I never looked at it like that, but it's kind of like this default thing that we just fall
00:23:56.540 into, right?
00:23:57.840 Yeah.
00:23:58.040 Because society puts out, this is the clothing that's available to the vast majority of us.
00:24:02.760 So we buy what is available.
00:24:04.900 We wear what the herd is wearing because we don't necessarily want to stand out.
00:24:10.220 We don't.
00:24:10.800 And I talk about this, you know, have the courage to be the best dressed man in the room.
00:24:16.920 And it does take courage because you will stand out.
00:24:19.680 You will sometimes get attention.
00:24:21.500 And I'm not, you know, again, it gets back to your situation, the message you're trying
00:24:24.980 to send.
00:24:25.740 If you are a secret agent, of course, probably you don't want to stand out.
00:24:29.980 Let's get, you know, but for most guys, you know, they, they, they're wanting maybe to
00:24:34.520 go out there.
00:24:34.940 They're, they're young and they're single, or maybe they're divorced and they're back
00:24:38.340 in the dating game, or maybe they've just got a new up and coming company and they want
00:24:42.760 to get that extra, you know, they, they want to get, they want people to remember them
00:24:47.040 and give them that few to that 10 seconds so that they can start.
00:24:49.740 You can pitch what they're about.
00:24:52.220 So the other side of this, and maybe the opposite end of the spectrum or the extreme is, is the
00:24:56.060 idea of maybe even overdressing.
00:24:57.620 Cause I think there's the antidote out there that says you should always dress one level
00:25:01.700 above what it is you're trying to do.
00:25:03.780 If you're going for an interview, dress one level up.
00:25:05.880 What are your thoughts about that?
00:25:07.540 And maybe even overdressing.
00:25:09.160 Yeah.
00:25:09.600 Get back to the function.
00:25:10.700 You know, when I talk about the style pyramid, I talked about, so the second thing besides fit
00:25:15.080 is talking about the function.
00:25:16.660 You got to make sure it's the right uniform for, for what you need.
00:25:20.840 So when I was in the Marines and I know you were in the army, you know, we had different
00:25:23.740 uniforms for different times.
00:25:26.440 So we had our dress blues, which if you're going to have a Marine call, your Marine ball,
00:25:31.260 which was our big party on our birthday, you're wearing your dress blues.
00:25:34.700 Right.
00:25:34.860 And that's a great uniform.
00:25:35.780 But when I'm going out to the field, I'm wearing my camis.
00:25:39.120 I also started off as a student Naval aviator.
00:25:41.920 We had a flight suit.
00:25:43.320 So you've got all these different uniforms for different reasons.
00:25:48.200 And at the same time, they, they're appropriate for that particular space.
00:25:52.520 The flight suit is great because, you know, I can tell you, it was just such a great uniform
00:25:57.580 because you got basically rerunning commando under that thing.
00:26:00.480 Nobody would know.
00:26:01.580 You know, you could go party all night, show up in your flight suit and just roll back.
00:26:06.440 But that was such a, but that uniform is, is made so that you don't get caught on anything.
00:26:11.900 So you can go in and out of the cockpit easily.
00:26:14.900 Camis, totally different.
00:26:16.420 You know, it's, I remember being in Virginia out in the field and, you know, you had to
00:26:20.520 treat those camis because you're getting covered with ticks.
00:26:23.200 You're out there, you know, you're just covered in this stuff or you're out going through the
00:26:27.160 mud.
00:26:27.500 You need something that's durable.
00:26:28.720 That isn't, I mean, is rubbing against metal, is getting, you know, up against branches all
00:26:33.140 the time and isn't going to tear.
00:26:34.840 Or if it does, you know, you can stop, rip it and repair it.
00:26:37.580 So all of these things, they've got a time and a place.
00:26:41.600 And if you're overdressing, you're just dressing inappropriately because you never, I mean,
00:26:46.520 you don't want to wear a tuxedo to an event where everyone is dressing casually.
00:26:50.320 It's just out of place.
00:26:52.140 Doesn't look right.
00:26:53.080 But at a black tie event, you do want to wear the tuxedo.
00:26:58.720 Or, you know, if it's black tie optional, then I guess you could wear the black suit.
00:27:02.900 Right.
00:27:03.160 And I know this is a line that's difficult.
00:27:05.160 You know, I even look at these celebrity award shows, for example, and they're always willing
00:27:09.960 to push the boundary a little bit.
00:27:11.540 And some people really land it and other people fall completely short.
00:27:15.540 And so I know it's really difficult at times to find that line.
00:27:19.100 But that fit function fabric, I think, makes it a little bit easier to understand what it
00:27:24.460 is you're actually trying to accomplish.
00:27:26.200 What are your thoughts about faking it till you make it?
00:27:29.480 Because there's a lot of guys and even guys listening to this that are at the point where
00:27:33.380 they know they want to enhance their life.
00:27:34.920 They want to level up.
00:27:35.760 They want to have better relationships.
00:27:36.940 They want to get promotions, start businesses, but they don't quite have the confidence.
00:27:41.960 Do you suggest that somebody start internally, externally with their fashion, clothing, style
00:27:46.740 appearance?
00:27:47.320 Where should a guy start?
00:27:49.340 Well, you know, I think that that saying fake it till you make it sounds good because it
00:27:53.560 rolls off the tongue.
00:27:54.740 Sure.
00:27:54.940 But I don't really like it because it's got this negative, like somehow that you have
00:27:59.280 to fake something.
00:28:00.740 I do think that there, every man has something to offer.
00:28:05.560 Every woman has something to offer.
00:28:07.380 And it really oftentimes is just their own.
00:28:10.100 I mean, yeah, I get it.
00:28:11.340 You're, you're young.
00:28:12.200 You're 22 years old.
00:28:13.520 You just graduated college.
00:28:14.820 You have no experience.
00:28:16.540 But you know what you got over that 52 year old guy that you're interviewing with?
00:28:20.800 You got 30 years ahead of you and he's probably wasted more than half of his, that 30 years.
00:28:25.660 You've got energy.
00:28:26.740 You've got, you've got this, you've got vigor.
00:28:29.140 You've got the ability to park, to, to party all night, still show up to work or work all
00:28:34.420 night and make things happen.
00:28:36.180 Uh, you've, you've just, there, there's a lot that you can still bring to the table.
00:28:40.720 So I, I almost like things that, you know, that I, I don't like that saying fake it till
00:28:45.420 you make it, I would say what you should do is you're looking just to put your best foot
00:28:50.100 forward.
00:28:50.940 Yeah.
00:28:51.340 I mean, this, this, this makes total sense outside of clothing.
00:28:53.940 I mean, cause I know when you want real men, real style, you're talking about more than
00:28:57.660 just clothing.
00:28:58.400 So what else should we consider when it comes to putting your best foot forward?
00:29:03.280 Yeah.
00:29:03.720 You know what?
00:29:04.080 Real men, real style.
00:29:05.020 I use clothing as the vehicle to help guys start to get what they want out of life.
00:29:09.280 But we talk a lot about, you know, just everything that goes into appearances.
00:29:12.700 So there's also about, you know, posture.
00:29:14.500 One of the things, whenever you talk to a guy that's maybe just left the military or
00:29:18.440 comes back from bootcamp, uh, one of his things, his parents oftentimes ask him is, wow, you
00:29:23.240 got taller.
00:29:23.920 Well, he didn't get taller.
00:29:24.760 He just stands up straight now.
00:29:26.020 He doesn't slouch over.
00:29:27.240 Sure.
00:29:27.360 No, it's, it's little things like posture.
00:29:29.020 Uh, I, I noticed this at business school.
00:29:31.000 Whenever I would walk around, I would walk around like I had purpose because I do have
00:29:35.500 purpose.
00:29:36.240 Uh, so I really try to, you know, work on that inner part.
00:29:39.040 So the body language, uh, what, what else we get into, uh, the presentation being
00:29:44.480 able to talk, have the confidence.
00:29:46.340 Uh, so working on improving your, uh, I mean, actually I just did a video on manners and
00:29:52.020 etiquette, very, you know, small things, or at least most people think they're pretty
00:29:56.100 small nowadays.
00:29:56.760 But I think that manners and etiquette in general have become more important as we actually see
00:30:01.880 people less and less.
00:30:03.280 It used to be, we had to do business oftentimes face to face quite a bit more.
00:30:07.160 Nowadays, we're doing everything via Skype or we're doing things over, you know, we're on
00:30:11.240 separate sides of the world right now, but whenever you do actually meet people or you
00:30:16.160 engage with them, manners are incredibly important because they have an expectation of that you
00:30:21.440 are going to, you know, it's like if you have a bad experience with this person, you have
00:30:25.340 very few opportunities now to, to get that leveled up.
00:30:29.180 Or as you've probably seen on email or text, oftentimes intent or the emotion can be misconstrued.
00:30:37.800 And so if you don't know how to handle that, uh, you can really screw things up.
00:30:41.400 And yeah, we oftentimes bring in guest, uh, guest speakers.
00:30:44.520 I know Claudia over at text weapon.
00:30:46.320 She's helped me like with, you know, how to use text.
00:30:48.960 Um, you know, our, our friends, uh, AJ and Jordan over at the art of charm, they are just
00:30:54.160 incredibly good with, you know, the soft skills.
00:30:57.300 But that's kind of where I, I kind of gotten into a little bit over at real men, real style,
00:31:02.040 but oftentimes I'll defer people over to the guys that, you know, make that's their big
00:31:06.520 focus.
00:31:07.120 Yeah.
00:31:07.560 But I know how many videos do you have?
00:31:09.440 You, I can't, I don't even know.
00:31:11.100 I mean, you've got what thousands now we've got just over 700, but we do have probably
00:31:16.700 another thousand that are unlisted.
00:31:18.600 So we got quite a few out there and it's something that I try to be ultra specific in some of my
00:31:24.040 videos.
00:31:24.440 Um, I do find that that's the information that guys really prize.
00:31:27.840 Right, right.
00:31:28.540 Are there any things, any items or, or, or any of the areas that you cover that are often
00:31:34.900 overlooked by men?
00:31:36.160 Because I know, you know, you can talk about finding a good suit.
00:31:38.280 You can talk about getting a good fit.
00:31:39.700 You can talk about having a nice jacket or a nice pair of jeans or a nice pair of shoes.
00:31:42.900 Are there some common things that maybe get overlooked too frequently?
00:31:46.840 I think a lot of guys forget about cologne and fragrance.
00:31:49.760 I mean, there's, there's a big community of these guys and a lot of them, they really get
00:31:55.520 deep into it, but I find that most men aren't using it.
00:31:58.940 And one of the reasons being is that we're not as sensitive to it as women are, but it's
00:32:04.260 one of our main senses.
00:32:05.720 And it definitely can have a very, I put out a lot of studies.
00:32:09.100 One of the things we do at Roman Girl Style is I go into the stacks and we do a lot of research
00:32:13.560 and I was just finding all of this research on the power of fragrance, how when you wear
00:32:19.760 certain colognes, it can increase your alertness, how when you wear certain colognes, it can
00:32:24.180 actually increase your ability to, uh, you know, be trusted for people to trust you.
00:32:29.920 And you think about the implications in business.
00:32:32.580 I know one of the biggest companies or one of the biggest industries that's spending a
00:32:36.460 lot of money on this is the trucking industry, which I, I found kind of odd, but it turns out,
00:32:41.340 yeah, the reason that they were spending so much money is because think about it, a truck,
00:32:46.040 their drivers are falling asleep.
00:32:48.100 So if they could actually have certain sense that would keep their drivers more alert and
00:32:53.740 less likely to fall asleep, I mean, that's worth a lot.
00:32:56.600 It's worth millions and millions of dollars to an individual trucking company alone.
00:33:01.220 Yeah.
00:33:01.400 So, so things like this that are kind of, you know, over there, but yet a lot of guys don't
00:33:06.560 even think about it.
00:33:07.520 They don't think that they could have a signature fragrance or they depend on women to
00:33:11.320 choose the fragrance for them.
00:33:12.660 And they ended up never wearing it when a guy has everything he needs, he can choose
00:33:16.840 and men are perfectly capable of selecting their own fragrance.
00:33:21.800 And so, yeah, I put out like a lot of infographics on how to wear it because I find, I find that
00:33:26.720 one of the things that as men, we don't like to, uh, we don't like to look like a fool.
00:33:31.220 We don't.
00:33:31.600 And we feel that somehow asking basic questions that seem like a seven year old would ask somehow
00:33:37.640 makes us look bad.
00:33:38.620 So we don't, we don't even go down that path.
00:33:41.000 So if you look at a lot of my information at Roman real style, it's very simple things
00:33:45.660 like how to tuck in your shirt.
00:33:47.480 Yet that video that we just put one out today, I can tell you this video is going to do super
00:33:51.920 well because we give secret ways that keep your shirt tucked in all day, which a lot
00:33:55.960 of guys, well, maybe some guys in the military would have known like shirt stays, but we've
00:34:00.100 also talked about the military talk, how the underwear talk works.
00:34:03.280 I mean, it's, it's kind of funny, but on the other hand, if you're talking with a colleague
00:34:07.920 and because it's only nine o'clock in the morning and you've already tucked your shirt
00:34:11.260 in 10 times, you don't even notice that you just put your hands down your pants and just
00:34:15.740 look like you're grabbing your crotch in front of your female colleague.
00:34:19.080 Sure.
00:34:19.360 And she's just, you don't, the thing is you don't notice it.
00:34:22.660 And she just is like aghast and you guys do this all the time.
00:34:27.960 And that's what I, yeah.
00:34:29.420 And I try to help them understand that they're shooting themselves in the foot, in the feet
00:34:34.260 and just how to get it past this.
00:34:35.860 Yeah, no, this makes sense.
00:34:37.000 So let's just jump back to one of the things that you talked about, which was, I think the
00:34:41.320 premise basically of what it is you're trying to do, which is helping to get guys, helping
00:34:44.540 guys get what it is they want.
00:34:46.380 So talk to me a little bit about maybe the benefits even of improving your style.
00:34:50.260 Cause I think we talked a lot about how to tactically make this a little bit work in
00:34:55.040 your wardrobe, but what is the benefit of even doing this?
00:34:57.960 Like what are some of the success stories that you hear from the guys who are upping
00:35:00.860 their, their game?
00:35:02.920 Well, to get down to the core benefits, it really just comes down to, you're going to
00:35:07.640 improve your traction levels and you're going to make more money.
00:35:10.560 Now the making more money, uh, there's actually a guy named Hammer Mesh out of, uh, David Hammer
00:35:14.940 Mesh out of the university of Texas, where I went to school and he was in the school of
00:35:18.500 economics.
00:35:18.960 He wrote a book called beauty pays and he talked about, you know, they statistically showed in
00:35:24.020 the school, uh, in his stuff.
00:35:25.580 And he's got a lot of, and there's many other things out there that you'd make like
00:35:29.220 $232,000 extra over your career.
00:35:32.920 That was on average.
00:35:34.400 Yeah.
00:35:34.680 That was average for that study, but you know, that right there.
00:35:38.920 And I throw that number out a lot.
00:35:40.100 I say, I like it.
00:35:40.900 It's specific, but when it comes down to it, the thing is, is you don't see the opportunities
00:35:45.520 you're missing when you don't look the part of, and you betray people's expectations because
00:35:51.200 you start that job at that bank and you never get promoted past teller and you kind of wonder
00:35:56.080 why, but you just figure that, Hey, maybe this isn't just a career path for you, but
00:35:59.700 it comes down to, they just didn't want to put you in front of, you know, some of their
00:36:04.380 high net worth individual clients.
00:36:06.020 Even though you had great skills, they just didn't think you had what it took to have those
00:36:10.240 personal skills.
00:36:11.080 And so the, you know, it was never translated or passed on to you and you missed that opportunity.
00:36:16.300 And that's where, you know, a lot of these opportunities are invisible to guys.
00:36:20.520 And that's where we, I try to show that, yeah, you will make more money.
00:36:24.860 And I love, I've got like a couple of hundred testimonials on my website where guys show these
00:36:31.400 stories about, you know, a lot of guys I know they want to be more attractive.
00:36:35.960 They want to go out there.
00:36:36.680 They want to get a great looking partner.
00:36:38.720 They want to, you know, in a sense, get the girl when, and people are going to ask them,
00:36:42.820 Oh my God, like, what is she doing with you?
00:36:45.040 Right, right.
00:36:45.400 Of course.
00:36:46.420 Yeah.
00:36:46.960 You know, that's a lot of guys dreams.
00:36:48.860 And I, and I do, you know, focus in a little bit on that, but I think the bigger thing,
00:36:54.160 and for me, I try to show them just, Hey guys, you know, it's about you develop, you have
00:36:59.080 to have a solid core first.
00:37:00.960 And then this is just some, it's like a diamond.
00:37:04.600 You look at a piece of coal, you know, how does it become a diamond through heat?
00:37:08.780 Pressure and time.
00:37:10.540 And I look at, and then it becomes this beautiful polished stone, but it has to go through that
00:37:15.540 polishing.
00:37:16.320 And that's where I look at your clothing.
00:37:17.700 It's like, you are, you're a lot of guys.
00:37:20.140 I just see them out there.
00:37:20.960 They go to great schools or they go to a, you know, maybe they have to sacrifice and they
00:37:25.140 go to maybe a not so great school, but they study their butts off and they work hard and
00:37:29.900 they just wonder, why am I not seeing the results?
00:37:32.240 And it's because no one can see what is inside and that, that clothing, that uniform, that,
00:37:38.700 that outfit and the mannerisms, all that, the body language, all of that is just the
00:37:43.680 shine so that the world can see what you have to offer.
00:37:47.040 Yeah.
00:37:47.200 I love it.
00:37:47.660 And so true.
00:37:48.320 It's definitely applied in my life as well.
00:37:50.220 So Antonio, we're winding down on time.
00:37:51.780 I want to ask you a couple of questions before we shut things down today.
00:37:55.660 And the first question I did prep you for is what does it mean to be a man?
00:38:00.740 You know, for me, I would have to say, and I'm probably influenced by Brett over at the
00:38:05.560 art of manliness on this.
00:38:06.720 I would say-
00:38:07.280 I think we all are to some degree.
00:38:09.140 Yes.
00:38:09.640 I loved how he talked about, you know, it's kind of the opposite of being a child.
00:38:14.060 You know, to me, it's, I mean, I look at my wife, it's not the opposite of being a
00:38:17.260 woman.
00:38:17.560 I mean, my wife, when I'm up and I need to be up to go to the airport at four o'clock in
00:38:21.660 the morning, she's up at three 30 making me breakfast.
00:38:24.220 That woman, and I think all, you know, a lot of guys out there can say to have a partner,
00:38:29.380 to have someone behind that's got your back is amazing, but it's with my kids and I've
00:38:34.320 got four of them that I see that I'm constantly battling with these emotions, with these things
00:38:40.700 that are, you know, the selfishness, which all serves a purpose.
00:38:45.400 You know, kids had to be selfish when you're fighting for limited resources.
00:38:48.840 Right.
00:38:49.020 You know, when I see them not taking responsibility, when I see them kind of pushing something
00:38:54.080 off.
00:38:54.840 So for me, becoming a man is simply, you know, mastering a lot of these primal emotions or
00:39:01.080 things and realizing that I have a great, I can contribute a lot to society.
00:39:06.180 I can contribute a lot to my family.
00:39:07.940 And being a man is oftentimes having that courage and having the, you know, I think the will,
00:39:15.360 the spirit, whatever, whatever people call it, to constantly, you know, get up out of
00:39:20.600 bed and try to put your best foot forward.
00:39:22.740 And I fail a lot of the time.
00:39:24.900 I would have to say like, you know, there are mornings I just am not motivated.
00:39:28.080 I, I'm like any other guy out there, but I do think it's the law of averages.
00:39:33.060 And if I can just, if I can just be stepping a little bit, making a little bit of progress
00:39:38.820 every week, because not every day do I make progress, but some days I have great progress.
00:39:42.540 Other days it's a step back.
00:39:43.820 Sure.
00:39:43.960 That to me is, is what it means to be a man.
00:39:46.520 I love it.
00:39:46.900 I love it.
00:39:47.280 Powerful stuff.
00:39:48.240 Well, Antonio, tell me a little bit about StyleCon, because I think too, there might be
00:39:51.420 a misconception that it's only about style and it's not guys.
00:39:54.740 I'm telling you that again, I've, I, this will be my third year in attendance.
00:39:58.100 Tell us a little bit about what StyleCon is.
00:39:59.860 We're probably going to rename it because I do think that that is a, you know, and so StyleCon,
00:40:05.800 you know, imagine 300 guys getting together and just really looking to learn from each other
00:40:12.760 to, it's, it's basically a three, uh, well now it's a two day party that, uh, I, and I
00:40:19.480 do, I mean it in a good way because I didn't want it to be a conference where you show up
00:40:23.820 and you've got to, you're trying to put on a show for people.
00:40:27.280 This is more of, I'm getting together with 300 of my friends and we're sharing best practices.
00:40:32.820 So we've got a personal development day.
00:40:34.780 We've got a business day.
00:40:35.860 I know I keep the business day and even though guys may not be entrepreneurs or, but they,
00:40:40.880 most of them do, uh, work for a living.
00:40:43.380 And so what we talk about there is how to get better at your job, how to think like an owner,
00:40:47.580 how to, you know, understand earning power, how we do what we do.
00:40:50.920 And then we get into the development and there's always time for the personal development,
00:40:54.460 but this is about a man taking time because we get so busy in life that oftentimes we're not
00:41:00.240 taking that step back to say, am I even on the right path?
00:41:03.840 And I think to surround yourself with men who are doing things that are pretty darn amazing.
00:41:10.320 And most of us don't have that in our day-to-day lives.
00:41:12.940 We're surrounded just by people that are, Oh, that are content with average.
00:41:17.140 I can tell you, no one at StyleCon is content with average.
00:41:20.240 Everyone is there to find a way to, to get to the next level.
00:41:24.120 And as you've talked about, you know, every, you've experienced this, that people at higher
00:41:29.260 levels are, they're not kicking people down.
00:41:31.360 They're reaching down and finding out ways to pull those around them up, up to their
00:41:36.140 level.
00:41:36.880 Yeah, absolutely.
00:41:38.120 Good.
00:41:38.580 Well, we'll make sure we link everything up.
00:41:40.140 Tell me, uh, tell me the dates, Antonio.
00:41:42.280 It is going to be February 3rd and 4th in Atlanta, Georgia.
00:41:46.720 Let me go double check that.
00:41:48.700 Yeah.
00:41:49.240 3rd and 4th, Atlanta, Georgia.
00:41:51.140 And, uh, yeah, if you just type in men's StyleCon, it'll pop up and yeah, we'll probably,
00:41:56.000 well, you know, it's, it's about lifestyle.
00:41:57.720 We've got fitness guys there.
00:41:59.120 We've got guys talking.
00:42:00.300 I know we had Ted Rice.
00:42:01.460 I'm talking about, you know, sleep.
00:42:03.060 We've got the guys from the Art of Charm.
00:42:04.560 We've got Eric over there from Beardbrand popping in, uh, Brock from, what is it?
00:42:09.400 Modest Man.
00:42:10.240 Yep.
00:42:10.440 Modest Man.
00:42:10.940 Just, just, yes.
00:42:11.820 Just a wide range of people.
00:42:13.460 Good.
00:42:13.700 And I'm going to be there too.
00:42:14.700 So I'm looking forward to it and, uh, we'll make sure.
00:42:17.080 Yeah.
00:42:17.440 Yeah.
00:42:18.640 Did you, was that a surprise?
00:42:20.800 Yeah.
00:42:21.220 I'm joking.
00:42:22.020 You're messing around with me.
00:42:23.680 I am.
00:42:24.260 I told you, I told you, cause I knew you were talking with, uh, with my project manager,
00:42:28.420 Rick.
00:42:28.700 That's right.
00:42:29.040 And yeah, you had to cheat.
00:42:30.460 You wanted to, I'm like, man, I'm like, you're one of our best speakers.
00:42:33.700 I love having, I mean, if, if you have, if you're listening and you haven't seen Ryan
00:42:37.800 in person, you need to, because this guy can hold a room.
00:42:41.540 I know it's really, it's a great message.
00:42:44.020 And I love having you on the stage.
00:42:45.880 Oh, I appreciate it.
00:42:46.680 I appreciate you.
00:42:47.380 I got to tell you, I got to tell you, I really do.
00:42:49.080 I mean, I, if I were to rewind two years ago, there's a few moments that I really attribute
00:42:54.160 a lot of the success and the reason guys are even listening to this show right now.
00:42:57.540 And a large part of that is what you and Aaron have put together.
00:43:00.060 And of course the other guys that I've met at StyleCon and have been able to develop
00:43:03.720 the relationships with.
00:43:04.620 So I appreciate the way that you show up, but I appreciate the dedication to your craft
00:43:07.920 and Antonio, thanks again for coming on the show today.
00:43:11.040 Yeah.
00:43:11.360 You are welcome, Ryan.
00:43:13.620 There it is, man.
00:43:14.440 Mr. Antonio Centeno sharing what it takes to improve your style.
00:43:17.460 If you can, I would highly, highly recommend that you come to StyleCon February 3rd and
00:43:21.820 4th.
00:43:22.460 I'm going to be speaking along with some incredibly successful men.
00:43:26.300 And if you do register, you got to let me know.
00:43:28.000 Make sure you let me know as we are going to be doing an Order of Man get together on the
00:43:31.460 evening of the 2nd to get to know each other a little bit better.
00:43:34.160 You can get the details at orderofman.com slash StyleCon2017.
00:43:39.580 Order of Man dot com slash StyleCon 2017.
00:43:42.420 I hope to see you there.
00:43:43.620 Now, one last reminder, go check out our exclusive mastermind, The Iron Council.
00:43:47.240 Again, the tools, the skills, the accountability, the resources, everything that you need in
00:43:51.520 order to forge strong relationships with a band of brothers, colleagues, kids, a wife
00:43:56.120 or a girlfriend, essentially anyone that you interact with from day to day.
00:43:59.340 You can learn more about that at orderofman.com slash Iron Council.
00:44:02.740 You can join us there.
00:44:03.860 I'll look forward to talking with you on Friday for our Friday Field Notes.
00:44:06.200 But until then, take action and become the man you were meant to be.
00:44:09.800 Thank you for listening to the Order of Man podcast.
00:44:12.660 You're ready to take charge of your life and be more of the man you were meant to be.
00:44:16.720 We invite you to join the order at orderofman.com.
00:44:19.880 You're ready to be.
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