125: Enhancing Your Mind | Jim Kwik
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Jim Quick is an expert in speed reading, memory improvement, brain performance and accelerated learning. He has worked with some of the most powerful people on the planet, like Elon Musk, Richard Branson, Will Smith, Steven Spielberg, and many more. In this episode, Jim talks about how to turn on your superhero brain, avoid information overload, cut through the noise, and become more focused.
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It all starts with the mind. Whether you're trying to get in better shape, grow your bank account,
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start a business, become a better father or a better man in general, growing and expanding
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your mind and your brain is the first step. But it's often one of the most overlooked muscles
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we use. My guest today, learning expert Jim Quick, joins me to talk about how to turn
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on your superhero brain, avoid information overload, cut through the noise and become
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more focused, and how to enhance the most powerful asset we have, the mind.
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You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart
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your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time. You
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are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. This is your life. This
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is who you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said
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Men, what is going on today? My name is Ryan Michler and I am the host and the founder of
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this podcast, The Order of Man. I am sure that you've been with us for some time now
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and I want to thank you for that. But if you haven't and you have no idea what we're all
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about, my job is to connect with some of the smartest, strongest, most successful, most
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talented men on the planet. Ask them a bunch of questions about how they perform the way
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they do and deliver that conversation to you. And that's exactly what I'm going to do
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here in the next couple of minutes. A couple of very quick announcements, though, before I
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get into that. First, we just got done with our first ever leadership summit for the Iron
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Council this past weekend. If you don't know what the Iron Council is, you can go to orderofman.com
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slash Iron Council to learn more about that. Men, I cannot even begin to describe how blown
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away I am with the caliber of men we have managed to attract. I'm honored that you are listening
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in. I'm honored you have joined this movement and I'm honored to be on the same journey as you
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to be a better man. Second, this coming up weekend, I will be in Kansas City for our first
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ever live meetup. If you're not going to be at that event, it's okay. This one is sold
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out, but we're looking at doing more of these throughout the nation and across the globe
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in the future. So make sure you stay tuned on that. Outside of that, make sure you join
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our Facebook group at facebook.com slash groups slash order of man and check out the show notes
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for this show at orderofman.com slash one to five guys. My guest today is Jim quick. He
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is an expert in speed reading and memory improvement, brain performance and accelerated learning. I
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came across his work a couple of months ago and after following him for the last couple
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of months and really digging into the results that he is creating for his clients, I knew
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we needed to have him on the show. I talk about improving the mind and the brain a lot, but
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I wanted to have an expert on to share some of his insights and secrets. The man is extremely
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qualified to talk about this. You'll hear that in our powerful conversation today. And if
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you aren't already convinced about that, please understand that Jim is hired by big, big companies
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like Virgin and Nike, Zappos, SpaceX, Fox studios. And he also works with some of the most powerful
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people on the planet, like Elon Musk, Richard Branson, Will Smith, Steven Spielberg, just to
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name a few. So enjoy this one guys and take notes. Jim, what's going on, man? Glad to have
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you on the show today. Thanks. I've been looking forward to this, Ryan, and thank you everybody
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who's joining us. This is going to be a powerful conversation and one that I think is probably just
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about, I think it probably is in a lot of ways, the foundation for the way that we as men show up.
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And that is the idea of learning quickly and absorbing information and being able to recall
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that information so that it can serve us and the people that we have a responsibility for. You talk a
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lot about the quote unquote, superhero brain. I'd love to get your take for the framework of the
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discussion that we're going to have today is what you mean by superhero brain.
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Yeah. I mean, I think as men, more than ever, there's a lot of expected from us that we have
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to be superhuman in so many ways. Just like women, we wear many different hats and different roles and
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different responsibilities. In order to be able to do that, I think one of our greatest assets that we
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have, you know, great asset of creating wealth and I just not just financial wealth, but wealth in
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those areas that you focus on with your show, you know, whether it's relationships or your physical
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health, your career is to do with, you know, understanding how our mind works so we can work
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our mind better. And I think that we're all gifted with this incredible supercomputer, but it doesn't
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come with an owner's manual. And I think in an era where I like referring to superheroes, because it's just
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that boy inside this man, you know, that I grew up with learning challenges and it took me a long
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time to understand things and I didn't have any focus. I didn't have any memory. And that's what
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put me on this path. But one of the things is I couldn't read as a child. It took an extra few
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years, but I taught myself how to read by reading comic books. And I would see these incredible men
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and women in these pages and something about good versus evil, something about having superpowers and
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not just having superpowers, you know, because nowadays just having a superpower doesn't make you a
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superhero. You want to be able to use that power with some kind of purpose, you know, do some kind
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of good. We grow, but we also give. And I think that's something that for all men, you know, and
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human beings just to feel fulfilled, we need to be growing or we're kind of sliding and we need to be
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giving back to those around us. You know, otherwise, you know, there's not a lot of purpose there.
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The metaphor I use about superheroes, I think all of us have the ability to tap into these mental
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superpowers. We just aren't shown how. But I think there's never been a more important time,
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Ryan, for us to be able to access those powers because there are new super villains that are
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here, modern day super villains that previous generations didn't have to deal with. I'm talking
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about three specifically in this digital age, right? We live in an age of electric cars and
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spaceships that are going to Mars, but our vehicle choice when it comes to learning is like a horse and
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buggy. You know, we're not really prepared for this world. And specifically the three villains,
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I think, that are causing a lot of stress, anxiety holding us back as men. Number one,
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digital overload. How many emails do you get? How many books on your shelf do you haven't read? I
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mean, how many blog sites and pages and how many so much this digital age is so prolific, which is
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exciting. But a lot of people have what they call information fatigue syndrome or information anxiety.
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So a lot of your listeners, I'm sure, could relate to this. It's just like too much to learn,
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too little time. It feels like you're taking a sip of water out of a fire hose. And that's why
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I've dedicated my life to this area of accelerated learning where people could read faster, where
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they could remember more, they could boost their memory and process and focus. But overload is
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creating a lot of health issues. I know for me, I personally have experienced that where I'll read
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so many books or consume so many blogs like you're talking about, and it just becomes so overwhelming
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that it actually causes me to do nothing as opposed to what I want to do, which is actually act on the
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information I'm putting in my brain. That's a big thing. I mean, this mental fatigue or this brain
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fog, you know, decision fatigue, where they say you can only make a certain amount of good decisions
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a day. And after that, after you hit that limit, then you can't. You could be sitting at dinner
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looking at a menu and you can make a decision on what you want to eat because you're so spent.
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And so I think digital overload is definitely the amount of information is doubling at dizzying
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speeds and how do you keep up with it. And so the amount of information difficulty is increasing,
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but how we learn it, how we read it, how we study it, how we retain it is for most part exactly the
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same. So I would say that's the big villain. The second villain, I would say, is this villain
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called digital distraction. So you have the overload, which is, you know, challenging enough,
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but now our smart devices are rewiring our brains, literally, quite literally. I mean,
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I think a lot of men, you know, part of being a man is being, you know, really focused and
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accomplishing things, right? But how do you do that when your attention is being split 12 different
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ways? And there's this myth of multitasking and that where people believe they could be doing
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two or three cognitive activities at once. And it's the research is saying it's a complete lie.
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It's funny you say that. I was actually, and I don't mean to interrupt you, but I was actually
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on my computer. I told you, I just barely got back from a seven hour drive and I was checking emails.
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I was doing just some last minute prep for my conversation with you. And I was doing a couple
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other things. And I thought to myself, Jim would get after me right now if he knew what I was doing.
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Cause I know you've talked about this in the past, so I hear you. I know what you're saying.
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Yeah. I think digital distraction and where it comes from, like, so there's no multitasking,
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right? I mean, you can walk and have a conversation on the phone because it's physical activity and
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mental activity, but I'm saying multiple mental activities is not possible in a way that's done
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proficiency and productively. So what it actually is, is they call it task switching, which is much
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more accurate term from one task to another. And the challenge is every time you switch over to
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something else, it can take anywhere from five minutes to 20 minutes to regain your focus
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and your flow. It seems like Cal Newport talks about this. I don't know if you're familiar with
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his work, but deep work, I think he talks about this at length and we've had him on the show to
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talk about it as well. Yes, I agree. It's so important for people like that. They want to be
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productive. They want to be high performers to really focus. And it's kind of like, I mean,
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if you go outside and you have a magnifying glass and it's a nice sunny day, you know,
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it takes the power and the light and it creates this, you know, when you're, when we're kids,
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we used to burn like leaves and stuff like that. It creates this very bright point, you know,
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on the ground when you use a magnifying glass. And it's interesting that we call smart people,
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more intelligent people, we call them bright, but maybe they're not smarter. Maybe they're just
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better focused. Interesting. On something specific as opposed to a broad array of things.
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Completely. And it's nice to have, I mean, there's apps out there like Freedom and, you know,
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other apps that kind of keep you from multitasking, like going on social media or going, you know,
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onto different websites that aren't productive, you know, as opposed to your work. So I think
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digital distraction, and I think a lot of it is our smart devices, right? I mean, I know you see,
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you've seen this before, but I just published a podcast on like my first hour of the day. And I think,
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you know, just like everybody, they have the first hour, but my hour of the day is,
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you know, 12 things that I do to really jumpstart my brain. So I could jumpstart my day, you know,
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it starts with like memorizing, you know, remembering my dreams. And I go through this
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whole subconscious thing about how you spend your whole day learning things and trying to solve
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problems. But when you go to sleep, you're unconscious, your subconscious is still working
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on those problems. And you actually come up with solutions for them. I mean, incredible,
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right? In fact, a lot of the things that you see in your environment, a lot of works of art and
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literature and science was created in people's dreams. And it's just like the periodic table was
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created in chemist dreams. You know, Mary Shelley came up with Frankenstein in her dream. Paul
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McCartney came out with yesterday in a dream. And so I know, I've, I've certainly done. I mean,
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I've experienced that where I wake up literally in the middle of the night. I'm like, Oh, that's what
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I was looking for. And I hurry and write it down. Cause I, I've lost plenty of ideas by not writing
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things down. Exactly. And so one of the things when people wake up, they don't have a process and
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they lose, they lose all those dreams, which is like a lot of valuable insight and instruction
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that's there. But for, for me, you know, I had this whole morning process and, but one of the
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worst things that people could do first thing in the morning. And I, you know, I've been saying this
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for years is just go on their phone. And I know that's not going to make a lot of friends, but
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as a, as like a quick brain coach, you know, coach, it stretches you and tells you what you need to
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hear as opposed to the, what you, what you want to hear. And the reason why you want to go on your
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phone, there's two reasons is because your brain is rewiring your brain. When you first wake up,
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you're in this alpha theta state. It's this brainwave state where you're extremely suggestible
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and susceptible to your environment. And we actually, actually engineer that state,
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that alpha state in our programs that we teach online. So you can learn languages faster. So you
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can learn facts and, and, and any kind of data faster. The challenge is when people pick up their
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phone first thing in the morning, you're in that suggestible state. And what you're doing is you're
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training your brain to do two things and we're literally rewiring it to do number one, you're
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training it to be distracted, right? So every time you get a like, a share, a comment, you get this
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dopamine fix and you get this hit and it, it, you know, you wonder why you're fatigued in the
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morning, but you're frying your brain in a way, giving super stimulate on things that really don't
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really matter. You know, the most, they're not the most important things. So people are majoring in
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minor things. And I know for me along those lines is one of the things, and maybe this is what
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you're going to say, and I'm alluding to this, but it almost gets me in the habit of being at
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somebody else's beck and call or at their schedule. When I really have some clear ideas of what I
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want to accomplish throughout the day. And I get distracted by all these other things, other people
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want to accomplish. Yeah. You hit it right. You're right on the head, Ryan. I mean, it's so the second
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thing it trains you for besides being distracted is it trains you to be reactive. So when you're getting
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other people's text messages and their emails and they have questions for you, you have to fight all
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these fires, they have their agenda. It's training you to react as opposed to thoughtfully responding
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and proactively setting your agenda, your vision for the day. You know, I know you have a lot of
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listeners that are, that are entrepreneurs and they're on that path. It's like an entrepreneur's,
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you know, the real modern day superheroes, right? They wear their capes, they're creating value,
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they're creating jobs, they're creating solutions for problems. But how do you do that when the first
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thing you do is kind of distract yourself? And then also you're at the whim and response for
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everything else that's going on in the world. I would stay away from it. So digital distraction.
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So first obstacle talking about superheroes, the first villain, super villain, we're talking about
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modern day is digital overload. Second one, it's digital distraction. So I would avoid touching
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your phone the first hour of the day. Before you get to the third one, can I interrupt you right
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there real quick? Absolutely. With regards to the morning, as opposed to getting up and checking the
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phone and doing all of these things that I think a lot of us are programmed to do, are there some
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quick solutions or some quick tips that you have in maybe what we should be doing to
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replace those habits that we've built and developed? I agree, because you can't just stop doing one
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thing, you have to start doing other things, right? And so what I would say is, I have a whole
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protocol for jumpstarting brains. So the first thing that I do is in replace of that time. And I don't,
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it's not so much time management, because I think in a way, time management is a little bit of a
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misnomer. I mean, it's depending on how you take it. For me, it's more priority management.
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You know what I mean? In terms of time goes by, you have this 80,000 plus seconds. And that's the
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thing with your time. Not everybody has equal opportunity or equal network or equal finances
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or equal education, but we all have the same amount, the 24 hours. And so it's how we choose
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to utilize it. That's a great leveler, isn't it?
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It is, right? And it always, you can always tell somebody's priorities based on where they put their
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attention, their time, because that's the one thing you can't get back. You'd always make more
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money and such, but your time you can't, is irreplaceable, right? And so where I, in lieu
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of touching my phone first thing in the morning, I go through remembering my dreams. The second thing
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that I do is I, for my brain, is I actually make my bed, because there's a big correlation between
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brain health and your environment. And having a clean environment is actually very good for your brain.
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And you know, it's when you clean your office, clean your desktop, you know, all of a sudden you
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have clarity of thought, you have more focus also there as well. But the other reason why you make
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your bed is because I do believe this, that how you do anything is how you do everything. And by
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making your bed, you could start out with excellence, right? And you could success, breed success, you
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could build on success, and you want to create positive momentum throughout the day. And taking two
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minutes or one minute to make your bed is a great way of doing that. And they do that in the military.
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And it's also great when you come back at the end of the night, because I have a whole nighttime
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routine for sleep and maximize my sleep, because sleep is so important for learning and having a
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quick brain. So it's so important, not only for the dream states, your imagination solving problems,
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but it's good for recovery. And that's where you consolidate short to long term memory also as
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well, so the learning doesn't stop. So it's nice to come back to bed where it's just it's made. And
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It's almost like that. And I'm going to butcher this, but that broken glass type situation where
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there's a broken window in a neighborhood, then you can assume that there's other broken windows
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or other parts of that that neighborhood are worn down. And I think that's very true in our personal
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I think so. I mean, I think and we don't put limits on it. So we start with excellence. And that,
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you know, pervades the rest of your day also as well. And it gives you some momentum,
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and it gives you a nice checkmark. And I think it's important for mindset, because I still think half
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of success comes down to our mindset with things. So these are things I'm doing replace in replacement
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of touching my phone. So then I have a tall glass of water, because people don't realize how much
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water they lose when they're sleeping, replacing that because your brain, it's only 2% of your body
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weight, but it requires 20 25% of the nutrients.
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Oh, I'm sure. And the amount of energy it takes to run this supercomputer, I can't Yeah, I hear you.
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Yeah. And you're in your brain is 75, you know, 80%. You're just like your body made out of out of
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water. And so do that, I take some supplements, the ones that I just that I can't go without are
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like, a good probiotic, because, you know, and you know, this right gut health is your second brain,
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you know, you have an incredible amount of nerves there. And you know, when people talk about
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intuition and such like that, I think a lot of our, you know, our gut intelligence, and you know,
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trusting our gut is just having good gut health.
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That's so fascinating. I've just recently stumbled across that through learning from you and some other
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people that have talked about the the neurons that and I think that's the right term. Yeah,
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that are literally inside of your gut. And that's why when you say your gut, that's a real thing.
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They call it your your second brain. So I think it's it's so important to kind of get that aligned,
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because if you want to make good decisions with really like all men want to do right,
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your own lives are a reflection of the decisions we've made to this point. But how can you make
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really good decisions if your gut is just full with a lot of, you know, less than you know,
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the best ever in terms of, you know, even worse is just the poison that we put into our body.
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Exactly. Exactly. And so I go directly for the water, have some probiotics there. I do some,
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some really quick deep breathing. Because the other thing is like you think about notice I haven't
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I haven't eaten anything, you know, a lot of people go to food to get energy. And I just feel
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like, yeah, it's important to have calories, obviously. But for me, it's not the most important
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thing. You know, I'm thinking more that I could go how long can you go without food,
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like literally weeks. Yeah, weeks without food. But how long can you go without water?
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Maybe maybe a few days? How long can you go tops? Yeah, yeah. How long can you go without
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oxygen? You can maybe a few minutes tops, right? And so I'm thinking about water hydrating,
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I'm thinking I do my deep breathing exercises, I go outside, just get some deep breathing,
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I get grounded, because I just feel like, as hunters, you know, like we were we were always
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touching the ground, right? And I feel like in the world full electromagnetic fields and
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everything, it just helps to be grounded, literally barefoot on the ground, I do some
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deep breathing exercises, you know, where I super oxygenate my lungs and my blood system,
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you know, that a that carded artery that goes the first one that goes from your heart, you
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know, up to your brain, it's like, you know, where people get choked out and in fights and
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everything else like that, it's because of lack of oxygen to the brain. So I just want to
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fully oxygenate. Because the other problem is, is when people are are studying, you know,
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Ryan, you just look at people's postures, they're always kind of bent down and
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everything like and they collapse their diaphragm. And it's literally the one the bottom one third
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of your lungs absorbs two thirds of the oxygen. And so you need to get that air. So I do some
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deep breathing. And it can be anything from box breathing to alpha breathing to Wim Hof method. I
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mean, just my thing is something and make it a conscious effort. Because you've heard this many
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times. It's just first you make your habits, and then your habits make you right. And a big part of
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you know, I did two episodes on my podcast about this specifically, because it's so important to have
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some kind of habit. And the routines are so important. So you don't have to think about
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it, right? There's a reason why Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook or Tony Hsieh, the CEO Zappos, where
00:19:30.240
they wear the same t shirts, the same sweatshirt every single time, is because decision fatigue,
00:19:35.000
they don't want to use one of their good decisions, doing something that could be, you know, turned into
00:19:39.420
a habit or routine. But I do my deep breathing. You know, Wim Hof is great. I was sure to stay with him
00:19:45.180
five years ago. And I had interviewed him, you know, all that time ago. But I just I'm a big
00:19:50.120
believer in that I'm also happy to be a big believer in cryotherapy, cold therapy, you know,
00:19:54.520
ice baths and, you know, cryo chambers and stuff, which helped me from reset my nervous system. I
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meditate every single morning without fail. It's very important to me. I know, I know a lot of your
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guests have talked about the power of mindfulness. Yes. But it's just, again, everything that I'm
00:20:09.120
mentioning is specifically for your brain health. And sometimes it's better to slow down so that you
00:20:13.840
could speed up. And that, you know, going into a mindful state is a superpower, because the goal is not
00:20:19.500
to be frantically fast. You want to have a level of positivity and peace of mind.
00:20:25.080
Just a quick pause to tell you about our brotherhood, the Iron Council. This last weekend,
00:20:29.280
we had a leadership retreat, which I mentioned with some of the team leaders within the Iron
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Council. And I'm stoked to announce and implement some exciting plans within this exclusive brotherhood.
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When I started on my journey to become a better man, I looked around at a local level for men who
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were interested in doing the same thing. And unfortunately, they were a few and far between.
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And that's why when I launched Order of Man two and a half years ago, it was always my intent to
00:20:55.260
create a brotherhood of men who were all working towards a common goal to become better fathers,
00:21:01.700
husbands, business owners, and community leaders. And that is exactly what we're doing inside of the
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Iron Council. We've got some incredible programs, teams, systems, and processes in place to help you
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all about and what we're doing, head to orderofman.com slash Iron Council. Again, that's
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orderofman.com slash Iron Council. Now let's get back to my conversation with Jim.
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I think a lot of times, and I think this is specifically true for men, is we equate our
00:21:33.200
ability to get a lot done in a short period of time as being successful. And you hear guys that say
00:21:38.500
things like, oh, I was so busy today. It's like, well, that's great, but hold on. Let's time out here
00:21:42.740
for a second. Were you productive? Were you effective? Were you efficient? Oh no, but I was
00:21:47.080
busy. Well, that's not the goal. Exactly. And I'm glad you brought that up, Ryan, because I think that
00:21:51.980
a lot of people use busyness as a badge of honor. It's just like, oh, how's it going? It's like,
00:21:57.900
oh, I'm just so busy. I have this, this, this. And I think unconsciously, it's because it makes us feel
00:22:03.620
like we're important because that's why we're so busy, because we're so important. And the challenge
00:22:08.420
with that, I mean, people have to be very conscious and aware of their languaging. They
00:22:12.580
have to be very conscious of what they're reinforcing, because if you're starting to get
00:22:15.220
pleasure out of getting this self-identity of being busy, it just, you'll start designing your
00:22:21.160
life around being busy. And you wonder why you're stressed all the time. And I think a lot of men
00:22:25.980
have to be very conscious of that, to not indulge, overly indulge. Like a lot of people come to me all
00:22:30.720
the time, and they're like, Jim, you know, I just have a horrible memory. And they wear it like a badge.
00:22:35.220
Like, it's like, you know, like, oh, I'm bad with names. It's like, you don't have to be,
00:22:38.780
you know that, right? Exactly. And then people are bragging about how bad they are. And then,
00:22:43.060
and if their grocery list wasn't written in triplicates, they couldn't remember what to get
00:22:46.480
at Whole Foods. And they, you know, all this stuff are, you think you're bad with names or learn,
00:22:50.360
whatever it is, like, check this, you know, and then the challenge is the person, how bad they are.
00:22:54.360
That's funny. Exactly. And here's the thing, like, when, when you, when you start reinforcing that,
00:23:00.180
you know, it just, you have to be careful what you fight for, right? Like, and I always tell
00:23:04.920
people, if you argue for your limits, that you get to keep them, right? If you fight for your
00:23:08.740
limitations, you get to keep them. And a lot of people are fighting for something, they really
00:23:12.500
will not serve them. And so people to be very conscious of their self-talk. And I talk about
00:23:17.360
this in the context of, you know, we all have this inner talk, and we're, we, this self-talk,
00:23:22.100
and it's very important, because it's unfiltered, it's going right into your unconscious. And I remember
00:23:27.420
I was, you know, with the last name Quick, my last name really is Quick, my father's name,
00:23:31.060
and my grandfather's name. But I was a runner back in school, and I was reading this,
00:23:35.080
this book on how to run marathons. And there's one chapter on the psychology of running a marathon.
00:23:40.320
That's why I was very interested in the mental part. And it said this verbatim, because I'm
00:23:44.080
a memory expert. It said, your brain is like a supercomputer, and your self-talk is the program
00:23:49.440
it will run. So if you tell yourself you're not good at remembering names, you will not remember
00:23:53.220
the name of the next person you meet, because you program your supercomputer not to.
00:23:57.200
What do you say to somebody who says that the alternative, that you can just talk yourself
00:24:02.160
into this type of thing, is woo-woo, or it doesn't really work? I mean, talk to me about that.
00:24:07.160
Completely. So I think our self-talk also is, you know, it's an unconscious program for our mind,
00:24:13.440
right? And it affects our beliefs. And I think everything that we create in our life has to be
00:24:17.720
created by some kind of behavior, right? Physical behavior that we're doing. And in order to do that
00:24:21.960
behavior, I think we need a belief that says it's possible. But the problem is, is when people have
00:24:26.580
negative self-talk, they talk themselves out of it, and they fight for doubt of, like, and that's why
00:24:31.380
people rehearse, they're so scared of public speaking. And that was a big issue for me, you
00:24:35.800
know, growing up, because I felt like, you know, I was labeled the boy with the broken brain. So even
00:24:39.820
though people have seen me on stage and memorize, you know, dozens of people's names, or 100 numbers,
00:24:45.600
or 100 words, forwards and backwards, I always tell people, hey, you could do this, you know, just like I
00:24:50.420
am. And because I had a brain injury as a kid. And my self-talk back then was really horrible,
00:24:56.460
right? And so if someone says, I'm just horrible, as a public speaker, and they fight for that,
00:25:01.200
that's a challenge. Now, the reverse, I think it also serve you that if you could be positive about
00:25:05.920
it. See, I think it's been my anecdotally, I feel like, like pessimists, I feel like they're more,
00:25:12.680
they're more accurate. But I think optimists achieve a whole lot more. You know what I mean?
00:25:16.840
Yeah, sure. I get that. Sure. Because they're willing to take more risks and everything,
00:25:20.060
right? Doesn't want to be right. So they don't go and they don't stretch. And I would say optimists
00:25:24.140
have that ability. And it's kind of like, it's almost a little bit of delusion, in a way, like
00:25:28.700
I've seen people who are highly successful. And then I look at their attitude of I'm good at this,
00:25:33.400
or I can do this. And from my limited perspective of knowing who they are, I'm like, man, this guy's
00:25:37.080
delusional. Yet I see them do it six months or a year later. And I'm like, ah, maybe that delusion is
00:25:41.860
actually serving them. And I would 100% agree that most things that are out in the world,
00:25:45.740
most people, I would assume, didn't believe it, because you have to see it. So it's that
00:25:50.160
whole thing, this whole idea, I'm not going to believe it when I see it, you know, because
00:25:54.100
most people say, I'll believe when I see it, but it's the reverse, you know, I'll see it
00:25:57.800
when I believe it, that success is an inside out process. And ultimately, in the theme of
00:26:02.560
being a man, in order to be able to create your own reality, you know, it's imagination is
00:26:06.660
more powerful than knowledge. And it's about taking the invisible, your vision or mission as a
00:26:10.980
person and making it visible out in the world and to do it with such congruency. And
00:26:15.540
so I'm good with people having imagination and setting their goals and having their vision.
00:26:20.000
So they're moving towards something, which includes their self talk, because, you know,
00:26:24.000
there is a there is a truth that, you know, you fake it till you make it that just going
00:26:28.460
through the motions and living as if this is really happening will create the congruency,
00:26:33.860
the certainty and belief, which will allow you to constantly move forward and learn things
00:26:37.880
because I mean, think about like with your show, right? I mean, at one point, it was just
00:26:42.280
a thought in your mind, right? Right. And you could tell people and everything, but maybe
00:26:45.760
you had a vision for everything that it is now and what it can be moving forward. But
00:26:49.600
nobody creates anything without any kind of vision. And part of it is to do and not just
00:26:53.980
what you see, but what you say to yourself also as well. So I would always take away from
00:26:58.200
this part of it is just always be self conscious of your thoughts and your self talk. And that
00:27:04.140
part of it also could be your subconscious telling you insight or inspiration. So understand the
00:27:08.900
difference between your intuition and when people are just being negative. And because
00:27:12.000
a lot of people will say something and say, Oh, I'm skeptical when they really are. I don't
00:27:16.180
mind being skeptical. Skeptical for me is just somebody wants to know like the truth, right?
00:27:20.440
They're not looking for an excuse. They're looking for the truth so they can use that as a foundation
00:27:24.340
for growth. Completely. Exactly. As opposed to somebody, some people who just are polarity,
00:27:29.080
they just and they mismatch everything. Nothing is possible. And they kind of live in that
00:27:32.820
state. And it's the difference for me in terms of when someone's a man, I feel like that
00:27:37.860
they're not just reacting, right? So it's like a thermometer versus a thermostat. And
00:27:42.420
there's a metaphor I've used for years. I talk about like, what's the function of a
00:27:46.980
thermometer? It react gauges, right? It gauges what already is. Exactly. It reacts to whatever
00:27:52.300
the environment is giving it and measures it, right? But a thermostat is completely different.
00:27:56.400
A thermostat sets a standard, it sets a vision, it sets a goal. And then all this, what happens
00:28:01.980
to the environment? The environment starts changing to match that. And I feel like in order to
00:28:07.000
be successful as, you know, for whatever people choose as their path, is that they have to more
00:28:12.880
identify with a thermostat where the locus of control, the location of their happiness and
00:28:18.980
their influence comes from the inside. And part of it is also just being, you know, more, having
00:28:23.440
more resourcefulness. Growing up for me, my parents, they immigrated here. It's the whole,
00:28:28.560
you know, the whole story of our family lived in the back of a laundromat. And we had no money
00:28:34.340
and language challenges. And then on top of that, it was just there. I had no education
00:28:39.500
because I had learning challenges and I didn't know anybody. And so everybody has what resources
00:28:44.560
they have, right? It would have been a lot easier if I had some money or I had some education
00:28:48.560
or I had contacts and know people and just like anybody, right? And so I think it's a matter,
00:28:54.480
again, it's not the external resources, it's your internal resourcefulness. And like, you know,
00:28:59.440
you go into MacGyver mode, you think about the best ways that you could use what you have and you do
00:29:04.480
the best you can with what you have at the time. And you don't go for perfect, you go for progress.
00:29:10.660
That's my thing. And this is just a, everything we're talking about is just, you know, the same
00:29:15.320
thing with kicking off your day, how you do anything is how you do everything. Don't pick up
00:29:19.960
your phone. And it's hard because it's addictive. Because one of the things we talked about in our show was
00:29:24.320
how Instagram actually came out of like the, this research center in Stanford University on habits
00:29:30.640
and how they make it addictive. Oh, I'm sure. And the psychology of just wanting to feel special and
00:29:35.360
important and good every time somebody gives you a heart. I mean, even the heart itself, as opposed
00:29:39.300
to a fist or something like that. I'm sure there's psychology behind that as well. A lot of design that
00:29:44.740
goes into getting people to do certain things. And I would say that stepping out, it's hard though,
00:29:49.780
because, you know, in a world where we have these villains, right, information, we have digital
00:29:53.620
overload and overwhelm, which creates, you know, all these health challenges, higher blood
00:29:57.220
pressure, compression, leisure time, sleeplessness, it's hard for guys to sleep nowadays, because
00:30:01.360
they're multitasking, thinking about all this stuff, digital distraction. And then the third
00:30:05.660
one, I would say is digital dementia. And this gets into the world of memory training, where
00:30:10.340
it's a new term in the area of health, talking about how our smart devices, how your brain or
00:30:16.280
your mind, your memory is more like a muscle than it is an organ, that it goes stronger with
00:30:20.920
use, but it's use it or lose it. And the thing is, is growing up, you know, how many phone
00:30:26.980
Yeah, I mean, well, fortunately, I lived in a small town, all I had to do is memorize the
00:30:30.360
last four of the phone number, but significantly more than I know now.
00:30:33.840
Right, exactly. And so not that I want to memorize hundreds of phone numbers, we have our phones,
00:30:39.080
but right now we're outsourcing our phones keep our to do list, our schedules, it does, you
00:30:43.860
know, our phone numbers, it keeps me simple math. And now we not that we want to be able
00:30:48.980
to memorize all that, but we lose the capacity to do that. So you give somebody a simple seven
00:30:53.180
digit number, and they can't memorize it, because your mind is like a muscle. But if you put your
00:30:57.060
arm in a sling for six months, it's not going to grow stronger, it won't even stay the same,
00:31:00.720
you know, atrophy. And that's what digital dementia is. It's the idea that we have technology,
00:31:05.320
and we're relying on it so much, we're not building the mental muscles, and they're failing us.
00:31:09.980
It's really interesting, because if I ever have to recite my driver's license number for some
00:31:15.140
reason, and I'm able to do it, I always get an awkward look, like, how do you know that? I'm
00:31:19.260
like, what do you mean? Like, it's, it's like nine numbers. What do you mean? How do I not know what
00:31:22.680
my driver's license number is? Exactly. Like, exactly. Or your credit card or anything that's
00:31:27.360
important like that. All of a sudden, you look like you're like Rain Man. Yeah. Because you're
00:31:32.640
able to do that. But I mean, everybody has that capacity. And before technology, you know, we would
00:31:37.900
have to store a huge amount of information inside our minds and past generations and, you know,
00:31:42.360
around campfires and everything. And that, and so here's the thing, people, people ask this,
00:31:46.820
you know, Jim, why do I have to improve my memory if everything's on Google? And I totally, I get
00:31:51.040
that, that it's there. But here, but here's the truth. Number one, digital dementia, right? You want
00:31:55.380
to have a powerful memory so you can remember people's names, right? Because it's horrible. I
00:31:59.020
mean, we'll talk about if you're, you know, if you're at an event, and you just, I know you just came
00:32:03.120
from an event, you meet all these people. And, you know, there's nothing worse than me. I think
00:32:06.660
their number one business etiquette networking skill in the world is the ability to remember
00:32:10.240
someone's name. Because how are you going to show somebody that you're going to care for their
00:32:13.260
future, their family, their business, their finances, their health, whatever it is you're
00:32:16.840
selling them, if you don't care enough just to remember their name, right? And so we can't even
00:32:21.960
do simple things like that. And so I would say that your brain, even though you could access things on,
00:32:27.160
you know, search ends and everything, our, our life is a reflection of our decisions. And you can only
00:32:31.900
make good decisions based on the information you remember. And if you lost half of your memories,
00:32:37.040
if you lost half the names, half the information, half the facts, half of the words, you know,
00:32:41.440
half of everything that you know about your industry, how productive would you be? I mean,
00:32:45.560
we lose so much performance, so much of our wealth and everything else. But if you could double that
00:32:51.440
capacity, you know, how much more productive are you going to be? And that's not only the productivity,
00:32:56.800
but I think the other side of this to maybe just to address this side is how far will you stand out?
00:33:02.580
You know, like, we live in a distracted world, we live in an overloaded world. And if I can set
00:33:07.280
myself apart by something as simple as remember your name, or your kids' names, or when you went
00:33:12.680
on that vacation, or something about the company, as I'm going into interview for this company that
00:33:18.120
the other 10 applicants don't know, like, how powerful is that when you set yourself apart that
00:33:21.900
way? Exactly. Because people don't care how much you know until they know how much you care.
00:33:26.740
And then that's the thing, even Maya Angelou has this great quote saying that people won't
00:33:31.300
remember what you said, they won't remember what you did, but they'll always remember how you made
00:33:35.340
them feel. And everybody wants to feel, I mean, just common influence and connection and communication
00:33:41.220
skills knows that we people seek first to understand, then to be understood. And everyone
00:33:46.540
wants to be seen, everyone wants to be heard. And the challenge is like, memory names is perfect
00:33:51.340
example. Like I, the story, you've heard me mention this before, but just as a reference point for
00:33:57.240
people, like the second time that I met President Bill Clinton, he remembered my name. Like how
00:34:02.160
amazing is that? Yeah. Like how many people does this dude like meet? And like, and so we remember
00:34:08.560
my name in our last conversation and we're sitting down at dinner and we're talking and I just, he's
00:34:13.660
incredible connector and communicator and everything. But I just felt like he had this incredible, powerful
00:34:18.720
presence. And you know, I think his incredible memory and his incredibly powerful presence comes from
00:34:24.340
being powerfully present with people. And that's something any of us could do. And I'll say it
00:34:30.140
again, like his powerful presence came from being powerfully present. Meaning like when you're with
00:34:35.300
somebody, you know, you're with another, you know, a friend or you're with a woman and they're in that
00:34:39.860
person and you're powerfully present with them. Like that's the best feeling in the world, right?
00:34:44.560
When you're not looking over their shoulder and seeing who else is in the room, you're not being
00:34:48.560
distracted by your phone. Exactly. You're not, you're not having a conversation with you because the truth
00:34:53.360
is, and this is the truth that people are listening to this, you guys, like the truth is most of you
00:34:58.200
aren't listening. You're thinking about, you're, you're waiting for your turn to talk. You're
00:35:02.000
thinking about how you're going to respond to the person and that you can't do that. So like
00:35:06.980
be there, be present. That's what everyone wants. That's what your kids want, right? They don't want
00:35:11.140
gifts. They want your presence. And I would say one of the things that we could all do that. Like
00:35:16.660
that's not even a technique. It's just teaching you. Like, I think the art of memory, a lot of people
00:35:20.540
blame their retention, you know, Oh, I can't remember. I put this, I can't remember that
00:35:24.260
fact. I want to learn this. They blame their retention when it's not your retention. It's
00:35:28.500
your attention. And most people aren't forgetting something. They're just not even hearing it.
00:35:33.280
I know. Cause when I go to a conference, if there's somebody that I specifically in my mind,
00:35:38.120
I'm like, I've got to remember who this person is. I'm so much more intentional about it. And
00:35:42.500
surprise, surprise. I actually remember their name. And that's the thing that, and that goes back to the
00:35:46.620
other element when it comes to memory. You know, I always think I talk about mom, right? And the O
00:35:51.060
in mom stands for observation. So have observation like president Bill Clinton, you know, because he
00:35:56.400
was a very powerful leader. The other thing I would say is the M, the first M in mom, I would say is
00:36:02.160
exactly what you're saying. If you go with the intent, because intent matters, it always matters.
00:36:07.500
And if there's, let's say, let's say people have trouble remembering people's names, but there's a
00:36:11.060
suitcase of $250,000 for one of your listeners, as long as they remember the name of the next person
00:36:16.300
they meet. And you can go towards charity or themselves, whatever cash tax free, it's yours.
00:36:20.620
And then only if you just remember the name of the next stranger you meet, who's going to remember
00:36:24.740
that person's name, every single person, every single person. And so every, all of a sudden,
00:36:28.300
everyone's a memory expert, right? But it had nothing to do. And let me, as a coach, I'm just
00:36:33.480
calling people out. It had nothing to do with your capacity or capability and had everything to do
00:36:38.120
with whether or not you wanted to or not. Why then would somebody not do that? I mean,
00:36:43.200
because obviously the 250,000 would be the motivator, but why just in everyday life,
00:36:47.760
do people not care about this? Do they not see the value of it? What is it?
00:36:50.740
One of the things I would say, and it's, and we can apply this towards anything, right? Why don't,
00:36:54.160
why don't people journal every day? Why don't they meditate? Why don't they work out or eat the
00:36:57.680
perfect, you know, the great meal? It's just motivation. It's like, and I know this, I did this
00:37:02.120
talk in Silicon Valley and afterwards, Bill Gates comes up to me and he's, I always ask everyone,
00:37:07.200
if you could have any one superpower, what would it be? And I'd be curious, I'd be curious,
00:37:10.260
Ryan, also for you, because, you know, you ask, you have to ask all these questions of it. You
00:37:14.260
know, if you have any one superpower, I mean, it's just like, what would you choose? And then like,
00:37:18.300
I asked him in that, he's like, Jim, it would be the ability to read faster. And I was like, oh,
00:37:22.140
I could, you know, totally help you with that. But we had this conversation about the future of
00:37:25.960
education. And I was talking about accelerated learning theory, right? And he was talking about
00:37:30.860
from a technology standpoint that the world, you know, the future, you know, classrooms don't have
00:37:35.140
four walls, you know, everyone has it in their pocket. And someone was listening in,
00:37:39.000
and they're like, is somebody, is anything missing? And we were talking about it. And he's
00:37:42.460
like, yeah, motivation, really understanding human motivation, because I think most people know what
00:37:47.140
they should do. Most people don't do what they know. And it's very difficult. And so that's,
00:37:51.620
that's what we want to retrain people to do with little things like tiny habits and starting some
00:37:56.220
somewhere small, the whole idea that if you want to start flossing, right, we know flossing is
00:38:00.800
actually good for your health, it adds years to your life and all this stuff, longevity, but most people
00:38:04.600
don't do it. But you tell people just, hey, just floss one tooth, you can do that one tooth.
00:38:09.740
And nobody in the beginning, you can do that. And they won't stop at one, right? They'll do two,
00:38:13.500
three, four, they might as well do the rest of them. Exactly. Just like when I get people to read,
00:38:16.980
I did a podcast episode on how to read one book a week. And I think it's important for you that if
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you read one book a week, that's 52 books a year, the average person reads two books a year.
00:38:25.160
And if you could absorb 52, I mean, Ryan, that I mean, think about how much you could absorb,
00:38:29.160
right? Yeah. And all you have to do is break it down. We don't have to make it a big deal about it.
00:38:32.820
It's just I looked on Amazon, the average book has about 64,000 words. And the average person
00:38:37.500
reads about 200 words per minute, that equals about 320 minutes to get through a book. And if
00:38:43.020
you break that down into seven days, that's about 45 minutes of reading a day. I mean, it's a decent
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amount, but it's, but it's doable. Absolutely. And I think, you know, leaders are readers. And it's
00:38:53.380
one of the things that's reason why Bill Gates says, I want to read more, I want to read faster. And
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Warren Buffett has been recorded as saying he probably wasted 10 years of his life just reading slowly,
00:39:02.100
right? And so just dedicating the time. But when I teach going back to these habits is just read,
00:39:07.520
Hey, read one word and everyone will just, they'll manage to get in like a good 15, 20 minutes of
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reading, which could completely change your life. Interesting. By the way, I was going to go back
00:39:16.300
to what you said earlier about superpower. My superpower would be able to read people's minds
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and thoughts. That's probably the salesman coming out inside of me, but that, that would be where I
00:39:25.540
would start if I had to choose a superpower to do. That's, that's like the professor X,
00:39:29.320
you know, telepathy. And I, yeah, I mean, for me, I've been thinking healing, you know, absent
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something like, like, you know, healing people of cancer and those kinds of things, I would think
00:39:40.400
The noble stuff. Okay. Everybody wants noble stuff. Now let's talk about the real stuff, right?
00:39:43.600
Right. Like it's like world peace or something like that. But by, for me, it would be the ability
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to heal others from cancer and challenges like that. Um, but, but, but selfishly, if I was to have
00:39:53.260
any selfish superpower and you can maybe relate to this just coming off a seven, you know, seven hour
00:39:57.520
drive is teleportation. I mean, how, I mean, how much time do we spend nowadays? It's not even just
00:40:02.760
the act of flying. It's like, it's like packing, it's going, it's checking in and going through this
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whole thing. And then the downtime with, with traffic. It's funny you talk about, uh, teleporting
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because my wife and I actually had that very same conversation on our seven hour trip. So
00:40:15.980
it's funny. Well, Jim, we're winding down on time. I want to ask you a couple additional
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questions as we wind down. The first one I did give you some, some heads up on. And
00:40:23.620
that question is, what does it mean to be a man? If you mean heads up by asking me right
00:40:28.220
before we started recording, that's a very slight heads up. All right. So I would say
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in order to be a man that's fully fulfilled and in their power and their purpose, I would
00:40:38.580
say this self-awareness is key. So for me to be a man, I would need to know who you are
00:40:44.820
and also be who you are. Meaning that have the curiosity to know yourself, like your real
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self, and then have the courage to really be yourself.
00:40:56.300
Powerful. Yeah. Wholeheartedly agree with that. Very good. Well, Jim, how do we connect
00:41:00.200
with you, man? If we want to learn more about, I know you've got some programs. I know you've
00:41:03.180
got courses, uh, you've, you've connected with and are friends with some of the most influential
00:41:07.120
people on the planet. Uh, you just released your podcast. What's the best way to connect with
00:41:11.000
I mean, I would love to continue this conversation. So, I mean, we just, we have a podcast that
00:41:15.380
has things like, and it's short form, um, you know, every, it's for basically brain hacks
00:41:19.740
for busy people who want to learn faster and achieve more. So it's like speed reading tips,
00:41:23.780
how to remember names step-by-step, my top 10 favorite brain foods, how to give a speech
00:41:29.720
without notes and all the, how to change your habits. These really critical, how to be more
00:41:34.400
productive and get to email box, you know, inbox zero and things that you can learn in 10
00:41:38.640
or 15 minutes. So it's the podcast called quick brain K W I K brain. You could just search
00:41:43.440
for my name, Jim last name K W I K that probably the best way. I'm also, you know, very active
00:41:49.160
on social media. So I would love everybody to listen to this show again. And then if you
00:41:53.500
have any questions, just tag the two of us. And I'm, I'm really good at kind of reposting
00:41:58.080
and then responding and answering questions there. So I'm just at Jim quick on Instagram and Twitter
00:42:02.440
and, and Facebook K W I K people want to go deep in any of these programs. We have students in over
00:42:07.440
150 countries and bestselling speed reading memory enhancement of academic success programs in the
00:42:12.920
world. And so, uh, we'd be honored to be able to go at a deeper level with people, basically for
00:42:17.540
people who are either struggling and to keep up with everything, or they're extremely successful
00:42:21.260
and they want to take things next level. But this has been a real joy. Can I leave one more tip
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for everybody? I'd love you to. Absolutely. I would re-listen to this episode. I did an episode on
00:42:30.360
effective note-taking, which is my favorite way of taking notes. And I would listen to my pocket
00:42:34.660
and then go back to this episode and re-listen to it. And I would be really curious if people
00:42:39.240
actually tag me in it, because I would love to know your superpower, because I don't know anyone
00:42:42.580
else's answer to what it means to be a man. I would love to be tagging those answers also as well.
00:42:47.000
But my other tip besides note-taking would be learn this as if you're going to teach it to someone
00:42:50.780
else. So I think that's what men do. You know, they, they learn things to grow, but they also
00:42:55.520
learn things so that they can support those around us, right? Your significant other, your team,
00:43:00.100
you're leading your organization, your children. And I always like to learn things with the intention
00:43:05.940
of teaching it because I feel like I learn it better. Do you know what I mean? It's just,
00:43:09.920
I pay better attention. I ask better questions. I take better notes. I make it my own. And then I go
00:43:14.460
on and pay it forward to somebody else. And so I would encourage people to re-listen to this one,
00:43:18.500
take good notes, tag us in it. And then I would love to know your superpower and what it means to be a
00:43:23.720
man. Right on. Yeah. We'll make sure we link that up. And I actually haven't heard the note-taking
00:43:27.320
one. I've heard a lot of your, uh, your podcast, but I haven't heard that when I listened to your
00:43:30.820
podcast in the morning when I'm getting ready, but I think I'll go through that as well. And
00:43:34.380
yeah. And congratulations to you, Ryan, also as well, you know, for the capes that you wear,
00:43:39.660
you know, because I, I really do believe that you fit in that mold where you, you're, you're,
00:43:43.820
you know who you are and you're being who you are. It takes a lot of courage to kind of get things out
00:43:47.700
in a big way. And you're, you're helping so many people around the world. I'm sure you have a female
00:43:52.040
listen base also as well, but just, you know, accelerate their learning. So they accelerate
00:43:56.420
their, their life. Right on, Jim. I appreciate that, man. And I appreciate you and how you show
00:44:00.560
up and some of the information I've learned from you. And I'm looking forward to connecting more.
00:44:03.420
So thanks for taking your time and spending that with us today, man. Appreciate it.
00:44:09.340
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