Order of Man - 153： Developing Physical and Emotional Intelligence ｜ Josh Trent

00:00:00.000 We all know health and wellness are important when it comes to stepping into our full potential,

00:00:04.280 but most of us tend to think that it ends with eating right and exercising.

00:00:08.340 While those elements are certainly important on our road to a healthy life,

00:00:12.360 it goes well beyond lifting weights and eating salads.

00:00:15.780 My guest today is Josh Trent.

00:00:17.600 He is the founder of Wellness Force and is focused on helping people across the planet

00:00:21.520 lead healthy lives.

00:00:22.900 Today we talk about connecting the head and heart,

00:00:25.580 how to identify which beliefs are serving you,

00:00:28.180 how to harness both the beast and the spirit inside all men,

00:00:32.200 and how to develop physical and emotional intelligence.

00:00:34.820 You're a man of action.

00:00:36.320 You live life to the fullest.

00:00:37.780 Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.

00:00:40.720 When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.

00:00:45.140 You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.

00:00:50.200 This is your life.

00:00:51.320 This is who you are.

00:00:52.700 This is who you will become.

00:00:54.060 At the end of the day, and after all is said and done,

00:00:57.100 you can call yourself a man.

00:00:59.840 Gentlemen, what is going on today?

00:01:01.000 My name is Ryan Michler, and I am the host and founder of this podcast,

00:01:04.620 The Order of Man.

00:01:05.480 I want to welcome you to the show.

00:01:07.840 This is all about becoming a better man, a better husband, father, business owner,

00:01:11.680 community leader, and just a better man in general.

00:01:14.320 To that end, we are interviewing the world's most successful men.

00:01:17.300 We are extracting their hard-fought and hard-earned lessons,

00:01:20.440 and then, of course, we're delivering them straight to you each and every week.

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00:02:52.000 Guys, my guest today is the founder of Wellness Force, Josh Trent.

00:02:56.320 I mentioned that a minute ago.

00:02:57.780 Josh and I met at the Spartan World Championship, and since the minute I met this guy, I've been

00:03:03.540 blown away with his energy and enthusiasm and the desire to live life well.

00:03:09.920 Throughout his 14 years inside the health and wellness industry, Josh has helped thousands

00:03:14.920 of men understand and develop physical and emotional intelligence, which is what we're

00:03:20.020 going to be talking about in our interview today.

00:03:22.360 His knowledge, his experience, it goes well beyond what every other quote unquote fitness

00:03:27.580 guru will tell you as he takes a more well-rounded approach to developing the body and the mind

00:03:33.160 and the soul.

00:03:34.620 He's worked with and interviewed hundreds of the sharpest minds in the wellness industry

00:03:39.080 and has been on his own personal journey, which he shares here.

00:03:42.220 It's always powerful when you can hear somebody else's journey who's overcome their own odds

00:03:47.580 and been successful in their own right.

00:03:49.500 He's going to talk more about that in the interview today.

00:03:54.160 Josh, what's going on, brother?

00:03:55.240 Thanks for joining me on the show today.

00:03:56.780 Ryan, thank you.

00:03:57.820 Yeah, we were talking earlier.

00:03:58.820 I'm a little under the weather.

00:03:59.780 Some of the guys know that.

00:04:00.680 And you are going to carry this conversation, but I have no doubt you're the man for the

00:04:04.540 task.

00:04:05.660 I'll do my best.

00:04:06.640 Well, I mean, well, we had, what did we have?

00:04:07.960 We had round one where I came on your show.

00:04:09.760 That was what, maybe three, four weeks ago.

00:04:11.740 Yeah.

00:04:11.960 You know, I do a lot of interviews with a lot of guys and I go on a lot of people's

00:04:14.860 shows and I got to tell you our conversation, man, I just really enjoyed in your level of

00:04:18.720 energy and excitement and enthusiasm for what you're doing.

00:04:21.100 Thank you very much.

00:04:21.920 Yeah.

00:04:22.040 It was one of my favorites and it was this exploration of what does it mean to be a real man right now,

00:04:26.940 how that's changed.

00:04:27.700 And so just fascinating conversation with you.

00:04:30.000 Let's talk about that for a second, because you said how it's changed.

00:04:32.600 How do you, how do you think it's changed?

00:04:34.360 Oh, great starter.

00:04:35.600 Well, back in the day when men literally were judged by what they could hunt, kill and bring

00:04:40.240 back to the tribe. 0.75

00:04:41.180 Now, as Tim Ferriss describes, we understand that our spear has become money.

00:04:45.860 So in our current societal paradigm, money has become the new spear.

00:04:49.720 And I love that analogy because it's not about how he can hunt and kill and bring things

00:04:53.960 back.

00:04:54.280 Like it's, what do we actually hunt down and bring back to our family in regards to monetary

00:04:58.420 things?

00:04:58.980 So I think that's the biggest piece about how men are, let's be real, judged by the female, 0.96

00:05:04.380 judged by the feminine.

00:05:05.240 And that's okay.

00:05:06.000 It is okay.

00:05:06.920 It's really funny that we, I say we, I don't think you and I, but we as a society seem to

00:05:11.480 buck that, that idea, that notion that we are, we are judged for what we do as men.

00:05:16.680 I do.

00:05:16.960 I've never heard that before.

00:05:18.000 Money is the new spirit.

00:05:19.300 It makes sense.

00:05:20.380 Yeah.

00:05:20.500 Let's talk about your mindset around money, because what you do with regards to wellness

00:05:26.120 is a little bit of this, a little bit of that.

00:05:27.820 It's everything all encompassing.

00:05:29.660 And I think money and our relationship with it certainly has something to do with it.

00:05:33.780 But I think there's a lot of people out there who have this really, really strange relationship

00:05:38.840 with what money actually is.

00:05:40.880 And I'm curious about your take on that since we're talking about man and money.

00:05:44.740 Man, I'm getting lit up by this because my money story is continues to evolve, Ryan.

00:05:49.900 And I'm sure people listening can relate, you know, however we're raised, we spend the

00:05:53.700 rest of our adult life either using that to our advantage or having it be something deleterious.

00:05:58.640 And so when I was a kid, money meant pain, money meant pressure, money meant scarcity,

00:06:03.880 money meant people that have a bunch of money, take advantage of other people.

00:06:06.840 And I've come to find out, especially in the past five years on my journey around money,

00:06:11.040 that money is very similar to water.

00:06:13.260 It's going to flow where energy flows.

00:06:15.800 It's going to do what energy does, and that is multiply when the space is held for it to

00:06:20.160 multiply in.

00:06:21.100 In other words, my view on money now is I use money so that I can live out my dream.

00:06:26.340 I use money because money is a tool.

00:06:28.880 It's like you build a house with a hammer.

00:06:30.780 A hammer can kill.

00:06:32.020 A hammer can build a beautiful home.

00:06:33.980 Well, money can do the same thing.

00:06:35.480 And I think we get to start shifting our paradigm around money being this evil thing only because

00:06:40.580 let's face it, man, the law of duality is present in everything and very much so when

00:06:45.260 we look at money.

00:06:46.740 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:06:47.480 And I want to talk specifically what you said about money is flowing like water.

00:06:52.480 If I understand you correctly, and one of the thoughts I've always had is that you will

00:06:56.140 not be able to attract more money into your life or replace money with anything, love,

00:07:00.960 abundance, physical fitness, mindset.

00:07:03.120 I mean, replace that word with anything until you're able to master what you currently have.

00:07:08.360 Would you agree, disagree or expand on that?

00:07:10.800 I like to expand because I think mastering is the mastering, the plural.

00:07:15.460 It's the continuous mastering because let's face it, we like I described, we have these

00:07:20.220 experiences that happen for us when we're kids.

00:07:22.260 I believe it's also what kind of drives you and order of man.

00:07:25.360 It's what drives me with wellness forces.

00:07:27.180 How do I take what happened to me, the stories, the beliefs, the events and use those to my

00:07:31.440 advantage, actually sharpening my sword with these events.

00:07:34.660 And so money, the mastering of, especially when we look at cryptocurrency and we understand

00:07:40.020 what's happening right now with our current system, we're experiencing right now what

00:07:43.780 I think is kind of pre-crash, especially here, we're talking February of 2018.

00:07:48.560 We get to really understand as men that money is something that we're judged upon and that's

00:07:53.900 okay because that's part of our skill set as a man.

00:07:56.660 But as you talk about on your podcast, man, as we always explore in this world as a man,

00:08:00.760 it's a mastering.

00:08:01.640 I don't think we ever get to a finish line when it comes to money or our health or our

00:08:06.000 relationships.

00:08:07.360 Yeah.

00:08:07.400 I mean, this makes total sense.

00:08:08.620 What do you, how do you begin to recognize?

00:08:11.400 Well, one of the things you just barely talked about is, is that the, the scripts or the things

00:08:15.480 that we believe that we were raised believing and money doesn't grow on trees and money's

00:08:20.720 the root of all evil and all these things.

00:08:22.200 And we're talking about money, but again, this could be anything.

00:08:24.400 How do you begin to recognize what scripts are serving you and which ones are not serving

00:08:30.660 you sometimes it's difficult because this is just the way that we think it is.

00:08:34.140 And there's no alternative to our current beliefs.

00:08:36.780 One word results.

00:08:38.800 What is your current result around health, wealth relationships?

00:08:42.880 And if you're not happy, if you check yourself deep in your core, in your deepest, most inner

00:08:49.240 part, the part that you talk to, you talk to yourself before you go to bed, that voice,

00:08:53.900 that person, are you truly happy with that relationship with your deepest inner self?

00:08:58.440 And what I'm talking about is your relationship with your young man inside.

00:09:02.180 You know, a lot of things that happened to us when we're young men, these stories you mentioned,

00:09:05.720 Ryan, that money's evil and it grows on trees.

00:09:07.680 Well, who got that story told to them?

00:09:10.080 It was the young man inside of us, that young man inside of us that didn't get what he needed, 0.97

00:09:14.960 didn't get the psychological or the physiological tools, got taught a bullshit relationship with 0.98

00:09:20.020 money. 0.98

00:09:20.520 That's the person that we're actually talking to as an adult.

00:09:23.520 As adults, Ryan, we are child inside wrapped in a meat suit as an adult going through this

00:09:30.020 current society on a rock spinning throughout our space, which we're all trying to make sense

00:09:34.500 of here. So long story short, what are your results? Are you happy with those? And then

00:09:38.960 let's take the deeper emotional inventory around how to change it.

00:09:42.320 You talk about the inventory and one of the words and terms I've heard is the reflection

00:09:46.080 process as well. And I certainly have some things that I've implemented in my life.

00:09:49.740 And I think there's a lot of people who come on the show and have their own podcast and their

00:09:54.000 own messages. And they're saying, you've got to understand yourself and you've got to know who

00:09:57.220 you are and you have to be self-aware. But I think we say it so often that it's kind of surface

00:10:02.400 level and it loses a lot of its its meaning and and how we actually do this. So what is

00:10:08.600 your process for self-assessment, self-evaluation actually look like?

00:10:13.900 Yeah, tactically, I start with this is a kind of three step process. So when I feel the need

00:10:19.860 and by the way, our body's intelligence will tell us our heart, our chest, our somatic experience

00:10:24.600 will tell us when we get to make a change, either relationship, health or wealth. So what I do

00:10:29.280 is I get in a workout, I shower, I eat a healthy meal and I take a technology fast. So for three

00:10:35.860 hours, I will go to a park here. I'm lucky enough to live in Encinitas. So I'll go to a park. The

00:10:40.920 weather's pretty nice. Find a space where you can disconnect from your monkey mind, from your phone, 0.55

00:10:46.840 from all the stuff that pulls you away from your current experience as a man. Sit there and allow 0.65

00:10:51.800 yourself to do box breathing. So I learned this from Mark Devine and it's box breathing of a five,

00:10:56.820 five, five count, five second inhale, five second exhale, five second pause, and then repeat that

00:11:02.820 cycle. So take yourself to that space where you're cleaned out. You've done your workout. You've gotten

00:11:08.860 rid of all the crap. Then get a piece of paper, draw a line down the middle on the left side of 0.99

00:11:14.120 the paper. Take your emotional inventory, literally write down 10 things or people or experiences that

00:11:20.400 you know, you know the truth that these things are draining you. They're draining your psychology.

00:11:26.400 They're draining your finance. They're draining your time and be honest with yourself. Go there.

00:11:31.960 Allow yourself to do it. You're going to have to experience those things first, though. You're

00:11:35.540 going to have to feel them. And it's a lot of things, Ryan, that men don't want to do right now

00:11:39.480 is men do not want to feel this permission to feel our feelings is a paradigm that gets to change

00:11:45.760 immediately. And that really is where we're going now with this left side of the page on the right

00:11:50.480 side of the page. List down a possible solution to each one of these things that are bothering

00:11:55.400 you. And then after you've done another cycle of box breathing, pick one thing. It's overwhelming

00:12:01.040 to do 10 things at once. Sure. But if you pick one, you go on that paper, you take the emotional

00:12:05.860 inventory, you feel your damn feelings, feel them. Then what is one thing you're willing to take action 0.98

00:12:11.680 on in the next seven days? And then that's it, my friends. Take that one action. Then call in the

00:12:16.740 support from your men's groups, from your podcast, from your community. We're so blessed right now

00:12:21.320 to have a Facebook and Instagram and Twitter where people can connect with us, right? It doesn't

00:12:26.380 always have to be in person to call in that support because the very same fear that made you not take

00:12:31.360 the inventory or the very same fear that will possibly trip you up in taking that one action

00:12:36.880 that you've committed to from your inventory. That's the fear that only gets spent away that

00:12:41.860 only gets dissolved by other men helping you by other people in your community or wherever you're

00:12:46.840 doing, whatever you're doing, podcasting, things like this. We need that as men. We need each other.

00:12:51.460 It's a dying art form that groups of men come together, which is why I think men's work is so 1.00

00:12:56.000 pivotal, man. So do you do this every, every week, every month, every day, or just, Hey, when I feel

00:13:02.200 like it, what does this actually look like for you? For me? Um, I've done some somatic experiencing

00:13:07.020 work. I I'm in a men's group right now. We base a lot of our trainings off of David Dita's work,

00:13:11.460 the way of the superior man. So I'll go into a somatic experience where am I feeling it in my throat?

00:13:16.340 Am I feeling these feelings in my solar plexus or a feeling in my stomach? So I'll go into where I'm

00:13:22.120 actually feeling it. And I will literally, it sounds crazy. I will just allow myself to feel

00:13:26.780 the negative emotion or to feel the sadness or to feel whatever it is. And if it's strong enough,

00:13:31.840 it'll motivate me to go take that inventory in the park. Um, for me, it's been, you know,

00:13:36.260 with as much as I'm charging with this business, I'll just be totally brutally real. It's been probably

00:13:40.580 a once a month thing, you know, for me to take this deep inventory.

00:13:44.440 So let's be honest here. And if I feel like I can share this with anybody, it's you.

00:13:48.940 I hear this. And I think just with my personality, and I know there's other guys that are listening

00:13:53.080 to this as well, who think, I don't know, man, this is like woo woo, or I don't have time for this.

00:13:57.740 And I tend to be a driver. I'm like, no, just, just like, go do the work. Like, just go get it done.

00:14:02.980 And so what do you say to me or anybody else who might be feeling or experiencing the same thoughts?

00:14:08.560 Don't silence your inner young man. You silence your inner young man. You tell your inner young

00:14:13.840 man that it's not okay to feel the feelings you're feeling as a, as a grown man, you will continue 0.98

00:14:18.080 to experience the crap results that you have because it's not about woo woo. Look, it might 0.95

00:14:23.200 be painted as woo woo because in our current society, we have a news media. We have a narrative

00:14:29.220 in our society that is men are strong. Men are Gary Cooper and men are John Wayne. Well,

00:14:34.220 that's complete BS. Those are not real men. Those are men that are, were a fictitious character in

00:14:39.280 the movies, but somehow that filtered over to politics. It filtered over to our ways of being

00:14:44.040 as men, a real man, a true, real man feels his feelings, takes inspired action and does an inventory

00:14:51.020 in the same way for his emotions. Like he does for his business. Let's talk about this, this notion of

00:14:57.280 emotional intelligence, because I've, I've heard you use this term before, and I've even heard you say it

00:15:02.340 just in this couple of, you know, 10, 15 minutes that we've been talking already, this idea of

00:15:06.660 intelligence. What is, what does that mean to you? And then specifically, what is emotional intelligence?

00:15:12.280 The emotional intelligence, that's a great question, but nobody's ever asked me that laser

00:15:16.940 question. I think that when we look at intelligence, it's the accumulation of knowledge that you've

00:15:23.200 achieved on your specific personal journey. Now, for me, my emotional intelligence stemmed from

00:15:29.220 a childhood where I was actually raised in a home that was broken. I was raised on welfare. If people

00:15:34.720 don't know what that is, it's like government cheese and kick cereal. Okay. So my dad left when

00:15:39.420 I was really young, I didn't know what it was like to have a safe haven at home. So I always had a

00:15:44.540 nervous system that was constantly under fight and flight. Now my emotional intelligence stemmed from

00:15:49.440 that because I was freaking unhappy with my results when I was in my twenties. So I'm 280 pounds. I'm at a

00:15:54.940 job that I hate. I'm in a relationship I don't like all roads led to me changing something, but I was

00:16:00.300 scared, right? I wasn't allowing that young man inside of me to feel his feelings. And, um, true

00:16:05.580 emotional intelligence is this constant gathering, Ryan. It's the constant gathering of evidence so

00:16:11.040 that we're reflecting what are the results we currently have? Do we love those results as a

00:16:16.180 conscious man in this world? And if we don't love them, like, are we willing to grow our intelligence

00:16:20.720 more? And I'll tell you, as we up level in life, we're always getting to grow our emotional

00:16:25.540 intelligence because we're never going to be satisfied. I hope we're never satisfied as men.

00:16:30.080 We're always going to the next phase, the next chapter, uh, not from a place of tension or fear

00:16:35.620 or scarcity, but from a place of like, ah, I've taken an inventory and it's time for me to go a

00:16:40.540 different route. Hmm. Yeah. So you, you, you said you weighed 280 pounds. Is that right? You weighed

00:16:45.980 280 pounds at one point to 80, man, because I use food as a way to numb, which it's interesting

00:16:51.700 timing of this. The CDC last year just released a report in late November, uh, 67%, 67% of people

00:17:01.440 in America are overweight or obese. We know that food is the ultimate equalizer when it comes to

00:17:07.720 silencing our inner young man or our inner young woman. Food is the most overused drug. And that's

00:17:13.180 a trap that I fell into when I was a kid. Uh, my parents did the best they could. I love my mom

00:17:17.760 and my dad, but they also struggle with that as well. Now using food instead of food, fueling us

00:17:23.260 feeling the human. Yeah. And you know, what's really interesting about this is it's so difficult

00:17:29.080 to overcome because food is everywhere, man, like everywhere, wherever you go, whether you go to

00:17:34.120 the high school basketball game or you're driving down the road and you've got 10 convenience stores on

00:17:38.420 one block, the cabinets are always full because we live in this time of abundance.

00:17:42.760 It's like food is literally everywhere. So, so what do you weigh right now?

00:17:47.920 I'm at two 15 now and I'm actually carrying probably about seven pounds that I'm in the

00:17:53.180 process of letting go of. Um, the reason I believe the seven pounds are there is because as my workload

00:17:58.820 is increased, I think busy parents can attest to this. I don't even have kids. Right. So a lot of

00:18:03.060 men listen to the show. We're like, you don't even have kids, man. How can you be complaining

00:18:06.480 about your health habits? Right. But, but I'll tell you our stuff. And so we all have our stuff.

00:18:10.400 Right. So, so currently, you know, I'm about seven pounds where I want to be, but, um, it's

00:18:14.220 just been this continuum of learning, right. And just listening to my body, listening to the

00:18:18.180 inner young man. So how long did it take you to get, what's that 65 pounds? How long did it take

00:18:22.860 you to lose that? Oh man. Well, I, the first phase was I was 22. I starved myself. Literally. I

00:18:30.320 starved myself. I wasn't, I was eating like 13, 1500 calories a day, running marathons, running,

00:18:36.300 like almost passing out when hanging out with friends at night. A lot of men, they just, let's

00:18:41.060 be honest. They want to hook up. They want to feel received by the feminine. They want to have women

00:18:45.700 in their life. And that was a big fuel for me. It's like, all right, you know what? Women never 1.00

00:18:49.260 gave me attention. I'm going to go get me some attention. I'm going to starve myself. I'm going

00:18:53.300 to do whatever it takes. I'm going to do anything I have to do again, though. It's coming from this

00:18:57.940 place of tension and stress, not empowered, true masculine action. Right. And so that was my story

00:19:03.920 back then, man, was how do I get out of this tension and fear-based approach to health and

00:19:08.260 wellness? And how do I step into a continuum where I'm not feeling like I'm stressed out all the time

00:19:12.920 to take care of myself, to love the inner man? So what do you, so what do you do now? You said

00:19:17.600 you used to starve yourself. So what does this look like now? Yeah. Now it's really listening to the

00:19:22.100 signals. Now the woo-woo piece you talked about earlier, I really don't care if it turns people off

00:19:27.480 because this is who I am. You guys, it's listening to how you feel in your physical body,

00:19:32.480 not masking it with alcohol, caffeine, or food or anything else. It's like, if you're tired,

00:19:37.180 allow yourself to structure a schedule where you can take naps. And so that's what I've done. It's

00:19:41.420 like I institute walk breaks. I use the aura ring. I use a Fitbit. I have a reminder of what's called

00:19:46.520 rescue time on my computer. I work at a standing desk. I have a power plate vibration pad in my room.

00:19:52.080 I use a foam roller. I have trails by my house. I've stacked everything in my environment so that it's

00:19:57.940 constantly reminding to move. I think the number one thing for people is neat factor.

00:20:02.800 It's non-exercise activity, thermogenesis. It's understanding that if you sit for 12 hours

00:20:08.540 and you go hit it hard at CrossFit for one, you're not going to get the same metabolic effect as if

00:20:13.920 you were moving continuously throughout the day. And that really comes down to ownership. It's like,

00:20:18.360 are you going to own your environment and stack everything in your favor? You get to do that.

00:20:23.320 Yeah. That's interesting. I mean, just from taking a walk or taking the stairs,

00:20:27.720 we were at a big sporting goods store with my family the other day. And I noticed that everybody,

00:20:32.020 at the sporting goods store was taking the escalator upstairs. I'm like, what the hell

00:20:36.200 are you guys doing? Like, take the stairs. Like, and I actually beat everybody else who got on the

00:20:40.760 escalator. So it's not like saving you any time. It's just pure laziness.

00:20:44.340 It's so funny, Ryan, because there's a gym, there's a 24 hour fitness here in Point Loma and

00:20:48.160 it has an escalator. Right. And I'm like, okay, there's some, it's like going into a church and

00:20:52.900 swearing. Right. There's something really wrong here, you know? So, so I feel you on that. I think

00:20:57.880 people get to pay attention to their environment. You know, if tactically somebody is looking for

00:21:02.700 what's the next step towards better emotional and physical intelligence, it's take the inventory

00:21:07.520 first and then also be responsible for your environment. Be an owner, be in true ownership of

00:21:13.140 your environment at home. If you work from home like me or, or at your office, like don't be the

00:21:18.360 guy that allows people around you to stack chocolate in the hallway, to go eat donuts on

00:21:24.520 your lunch break. Like don't go there. And if you need support with that, well then go through the

00:21:28.860 inventory. One of the things that I do, cause I work at home as well. And so I'm in, I'm in front of

00:21:33.140 the computer all the time. Like I imagine you are. I mean, it's just the nature of the business,

00:21:36.220 but I never take a phone call where I'm not outside walking around. Like I, I've just noticed that

00:21:42.540 if I can go outside, get in the sun, do laps around my backyard. And we're fortunate. We've

00:21:47.680 got a little bit of land so I can do laps in my backyard while I'm talking to somebody that

00:21:51.220 completely transforms the next activity. When I have to come back into what I dubbed the dungeon

00:21:55.900 and do work in front of the computer. Oh man, that's awesome. Because every man is dealing with

00:22:02.060 the stresses of our modern world. I mean, look, our current society is not stacked in our favor.

00:22:07.200 My friends, it is not every day. I think about Jack LaLanne. He was one of my original mentors and he's

00:22:12.320 like life is a battlefield. You wake up every morning and it's a war. It's literally you versus

00:22:18.600 you and you versus all the distractions and people and things that want to get in your way. And it's

00:22:24.200 not that we have to come from a war mindset, but in the undercurrent of it all, we're constantly

00:22:29.180 under siege, Ryan. We've never lived in a time where we're in this ancient brain. We have a brain

00:22:34.520 that was wired for fricking 10,000 years ago. We've only changed 1% from then from a biological

00:22:39.340 perspective. Yet we're in an environment where cell phone, advertisements, television, iPads,

00:22:45.860 Androids, people, work, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The list goes on and on. That is a constant

00:22:51.060 drip of stress for our sympathetic nervous system. And this, I believe, is what's really driving

00:22:55.840 disease and driving men to be disconnected from their wives, from their bodies, from their health

00:23:01.700 and fitness. It's, it's, how do we silence the volume or at least turn down the volume

00:23:06.140 of these weapons of mass distraction? That's interesting. My wife actually came up to me

00:23:10.940 just a couple of days ago and I can't remember where I was going, but I was going to run an

00:23:14.700 errand in the truck. And she said, just leave your phone at home. Just leave your, don't listen to a

00:23:18.840 podcast. Don't get alerted. And she, she knows, I mean, she knows, and she was right on, you know,

00:23:24.240 just, just being able to put that away for an hour. It pays huge dividends minutes that time

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00:24:46.900 let's get back to the conversation with Josh. One of the things you mentioned was the, uh,

00:24:52.960 the aura ring. And I think Ben Greenfield mentioned this when I did a podcast episode with him.

00:24:57.820 What, what is the aura ring?

00:24:59.620 Aura ring is, I believe I've been in this health and wellness tech space for three and a half years

00:25:04.680 now, the most powerful wearable for true behavior change. The aura ring is a ring that you wear.

00:25:11.560 It gets your pulse right from the bottom of your middle finger or your wedding ring or whatever hand

00:25:15.600 you put it on. And it gets your skin temperature, your heart rate variability, your activity,

00:25:20.440 and most importantly, the deeper phases of your sleep. And so each day you get to wake up,

00:25:25.620 you get to check and see, Hey, how did I show up in my life yesterday? Do I need to adjust anything

00:25:30.180 on the fly? Am I not getting enough restoration in my sleep? Where do I get to go today? It's,

00:25:35.420 it's a navigator. Think of it as a human dashboard that measures how you're showing up in your life.

00:25:41.520 Interesting. I'll have to look into that. We'll, we'll link that up. Cause I think I'm going to look

00:25:44.360 into that and see if I can use that and do some experimentation for myself on that.

00:25:48.420 I think you'd really enjoy it, man. The guys, the founder is called Petri Latela. I interviewed

00:25:52.500 my wellness force and he actually, it forged from his own journey, right? His young man

00:25:56.900 didn't get the tools that he needed. And so now he's built a platform and aura to drive the change

00:26:02.600 he wants to see. And if I remember correctly, and this might be something completely different

00:26:06.780 and I'm, I'm going to butcher the terms here, but it seems like that ring doesn't emit a bunch of

00:26:12.100 microwaves or whatever it is that, that mess with all your rhythms and everything else.

00:26:16.240 Is this something else or is that the aura ring? You're on the pulse there. You can put it on

00:26:19.980 airplane mode though, and then only have it sync your data once a day. So we're talking about

00:26:24.440 a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of what's really coming out the EMF from our phones

00:26:30.240 that we have all the time. So it's very safe. So one of the things that's always struck me about

00:26:35.240 you and you and I met at the Spartan world championship, which was, I don't know what,

00:26:39.680 six months or so ago, maybe not quite that long last September. Yeah. Gosh, it has been a long

00:26:44.280 time, man. I can't believe how fast time goes. Anyways, one of the things that's always struck

00:26:47.780 me about you is, is your level of confidence. And, and every time we've had a conversation and had,

00:26:52.220 had these talks, it just exudes from you. So take that for a compliment. But at the same time,

00:26:56.360 I'm really curious if this is something that you've always possessed or have you really had to work on

00:27:02.160 this level of confidence? Talk to me about where this comes from.

00:27:04.440 Oh man, making me take a deep breath on your podcast, Ryan. Um, really the, the continuum of

00:27:11.780 learning on this stems from what I talked about earlier. And I would not say that a week goes by

00:27:17.280 without me having to have a deep and poignant conversation with that young inner man inside me,

00:27:22.660 because I believe that our monkeys never go away. I mean, I think who made that famous was Steve Young

00:27:29.140 and Joe Montana, their relationship, you know, he always felt in a way that he was a shadow of

00:27:34.620 Montana. And it's like, well, in a way I still am connected to that young kid that would eat a

00:27:40.160 burrito when he didn't feel like crying. And so, yeah, my work comes from that. And I think if people

00:27:46.760 feel confidence from me, it's because lying just makes me exhausted when I'm lying about myself,

00:27:52.660 when I'm lying to other men, when I'm lying, it is so draining and we can only continue on like that

00:27:58.280 for so long. I mean, something's got to break, right? And it's like, we're either going to break

00:28:01.820 or we're going to get a breakthrough. Something external is going to come into our lives. And so,

00:28:06.220 you know, there's many moments, Ryan, where I don't feel confident at all,

00:28:09.700 but when it comes to like time to shine and when something's on the line, as far as me helping the

00:28:15.240 change in our world that I believe is most needed, um, I'm not going to back down from that.

00:28:19.500 I'm not going to lie when I get in that situation because it's bigger than me. It's not just about me

00:28:23.700 anymore. And that's, I've really designed wellness force in my life to not be about me, man.

00:28:28.280 Cause if we allow our lives to be just about us, we're going to go down a cycle of, you know,

00:28:33.460 self-hatred, self-dialogue, self, self, self, self. And by the way, we need self-love and self-care

00:28:38.740 and self-dialogue, but that monkey mind will take us to a place that is so painful and so terrible if

00:28:44.600 we allow it to. And I think it really stems back to what was important for us in tribes. You know,

00:28:49.920 if you were in a tribe and you weren't taking care of yourself and you weren't showing up as

00:28:54.240 powerfully as possible, you were ostracized. You wouldn't be able to meet. Your lineage would

00:28:58.220 stop. And so we have this ancient brain that dictates our pathways now. And I think we're

00:29:02.940 in this time where we have such great nuanced evolutionary conversations like you and I have.

00:29:08.520 And it's like, we still get to respect that we're half beast and we're half spirit. And let's do both

00:29:14.380 of those to the best way we can. Why do you think society tries to put away that, that beast part?

00:29:19.240 Well, the big answer is that our current paradigm is run by, there is a fraction. If you look at

00:29:26.140 Jordan Peterson's work where he talks about the Pareto principle to more people that have moral

00:29:31.440 be given. I think this is actually in the Bible. And then to people that have nothing moral be taken.

00:29:35.960 Well, that Pareto principle is alive and well in our current system. That's what makes people angry at

00:29:40.820 money. That's what makes people feel resentment towards the 1% of the 1% that literally kind of run the

00:29:46.660 planet here. That is something to be said that, yes, we do have manifest destiny. We can control

00:29:53.260 our environment. We can control our fiduciary responsibility to ourselves. But there also is

00:29:58.260 something where we're in this gray area right now where the 1% of the 1% that do control the majority

00:30:04.300 of decisions in our world, that also has to change. Capitalism has to change. It has to evolve.

00:30:10.400 And it gets to because the gap is widening. And unless we want to have complete societal meltdown

00:30:15.960 in our lifetimes, Ryan, I think something drastic will change.

00:30:19.820 How so? How do you see that playing out?

00:30:22.180 I see it happening through technology. So look at the work of Peter Diamandis. And we have

00:30:26.460 the X Prize. We're looking at UBI, universal basic income, and how this might possibly take care of

00:30:31.840 some of those lower level needs. If you look at Maslow's triangle, you know, safety, security.

00:30:35.980 Only can we serve other people if we're taking care of our basic human needs. What I'm not talking

00:30:41.980 about is all time, like welfare. I'm not trying to say everybody should just get a check and do

00:30:46.600 no work. No, let's set up a society where if we're going to take care of people's basic needs, 0.98

00:30:51.720 then we're going to be compensating them in some way. And they're giving back to the thing that

00:30:56.520 gave to them. Now, I don't know what the answer is for that, Ryan, but I know that's where we're

00:31:00.300 headed. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, we can go off on a tangent and talk about that.

00:31:03.540 That could be a whole other podcast. I mean, a series of podcasts. I mean,

00:31:06.820 because we're getting into some interesting territory here for sure. But I am curious because

00:31:13.100 I think that some people will use their upbringing or their past experiences or their own inadequacies

00:31:21.380 in the past and use it as, in a way, an opportunity to self-destruct. And I think other people will use

00:31:28.440 those past experiences as an opportunity for a foundation for growth. And I look at you as someone

00:31:34.840 who's used your experiences and I feel the same way about myself as an opportunity for growth.

00:31:39.240 Do you agree with that first? And then I guess secondary to that is what do you think separates

00:31:44.060 the two parties? I love this question, man. We're touching really that bleeding edge of kindness in

00:31:53.240 our society and ownership, kindness and ownership. Ownership says I get the job done. Kindness says I find

00:32:01.540 a way to get the job done while respecting my fellow man. That's the conversation that gets to

00:32:06.660 happen on a grandiose scale. And I think what I want to do is say this one thing here. We can get

00:32:13.460 the job done and still be kind to others. It is possible. The winner take all mentality, this the

00:32:19.080 Pareto principle that exists like it exists for a reason, because let's be real. That's what's wired to

00:32:24.580 that amygdala. That's what's wired to our ancient brain. But we're not ancient anymore, right? And it's

00:32:28.820 2018, man. I'm talking to you through a microphone connected to the internet that goes into outer space

00:32:32.940 and back. We are not just that caveman anymore. Let's respect our caveman. Let's be in touch with

00:32:38.580 our caveman. But let's have a conversation about ownership and kindness to our fellow man. That's

00:32:44.040 the thing I want to see change. And not only is it possible, I think it's probably the most effective

00:32:49.420 way long term to go about business, because I think you can be successful at the expense of other

00:32:55.060 people and manage to make that work for a very short period of time. But I think if you're in

00:33:00.340 this thing for the long haul, you've got to find the balance between going out and attacking what

00:33:05.040 it is you want, but doing it in a way that doesn't leave a wake of collateral damage.

00:33:10.400 Great point. And think about this. Look at the law of nature. Any tree has a start and a stop,

00:33:16.320 right? There's always a life cycle. But if you look at capitalism, capitalism is always built on year

00:33:21.900 over your growth. So we get to adjust the capitalism model so that we're serving everyone

00:33:26.980 and we're more in alignment with the law of nature. Now, how do we do that? Let's figure it

00:33:30.660 out together, man, because I don't have clarity, but we get to go in that direction more.

00:33:35.000 I love it, man. I love it. So I want to shift gears here a little bit. And I'm enjoying this

00:33:39.560 conversation. We're talking about everything. I'm a little nervous because I'm not sure what I'm

00:33:42.940 going to title this podcast because we're all over the place, but it's okay. It's still a worthy

00:33:47.980 conversation for sure. Uh, one of the things that I saw that you had just done, and I don't know when

00:33:52.840 this was, uh, but the, uh, the 20 X Mark devines 20 X, and he's been on the, uh, he's been on the

00:33:58.160 show unbeatable mind. I know a lot of guys are familiar with his work. Why did you sign up for

00:34:03.020 an event like that? Oh man, forging wellness force and driving wellness force has been the best

00:34:08.840 blessing in my life, but it's also been the most challenging. It's brought up all my BS, all my inner

00:34:13.820 stories, uh, worthiness, things like this. So throughout my whole life, uh, because of what

00:34:18.400 I talked about, I have struggled with anxiety and a lot of men struggle with anxiety, especially men

00:34:23.640 that want to make an impact. And so I've struggled with anxiety and in 2015, 2016, that multiplied in

00:34:30.220 driving a business. So by the time 2017 came around, it was actually at the in beetle mind retreat in

00:34:35.540 December of 2016. I was listening to Mark talk on stage and he was asking us like, what wolf are you

00:34:41.900 feeding? Are you feeding the wolf every day that says anger, jealousy, despair, sadness,

00:34:47.920 or are you feeding a wolf that says abundance? What's possible courage, like feed the courage

00:34:53.500 wolf. And as I was reading his work and studying him, I'd had him on the podcast too. And I just got

00:34:59.420 impacted by him so much. I thought, you know what? I wonder what I'm capable of physically. I wonder if

00:35:03.780 I took myself to a place physically that was literally 20 times more than I ever thought I could

00:35:08.860 do. What would come up for me emotionally? And that was the quest that I went on with the 20 X.

00:35:13.800 What did you discover about that versus the expectations you had going into it?

00:35:18.900 The biggest one was I really took an inventory that had nothing to do with anything other than

00:35:25.860 my deepest truth. And my deepest truth that came up from the 20 X, we actually did a really cool

00:35:30.580 storytelling video about it. I can send you. It's like at the end of the video, I shook the coach's

00:35:34.920 hand and I looked at them and I was like, thank you for making me realize that my life is not just

00:35:40.460 about me. I am not allowed to be selfish anymore and saturate myself in these negative emotions and

00:35:47.680 the victim story. And honestly, the monkey mind, like I'm not allowed to go there. And if I want to

00:35:52.640 go there, then I immediately get to recognize I'm there and then call in the support because

00:35:56.640 I don't get to be selfish. And this isn't about just me. And I think that was the biggest wake up

00:36:01.300 call, man. It's like when you're suffering with these men and women, by the way, who do the event,

00:36:05.300 there's nowhere to hide. Your BS is going to come out. I got singled out. I dropped my sandbag

00:36:10.160 and he announced my name over the loudspeaker. He's like, Trent, everybody's doing 40 burpees

00:36:13.900 because of you. And I literally just lost connection with the people I was, I was working with. And by the

00:36:19.520 way, it's 50 degrees. We're soaking wet. Our bodies are shivering to the point where we couldn't even like

00:36:24.260 eat the MRE. Like we're shivering. I couldn't even put the food in my mouth. You will never know where

00:36:29.240 you'll go until you're under that kind of stress until you're under that kind of physical load,

00:36:33.520 because whatever happens in your daily life, when you're stressed out about work or fighting with

00:36:37.860 your wife or anything that's stressing you out, you'll go there 10 times, 20 times over when you're

00:36:43.280 physically suffering. So whatever BS comes up in your regular life as a man, it's a magnifying glass to

00:36:48.780 work through that in an event like the 20 X. That's interesting. I actually had a similar

00:36:52.700 experience. I did the Spartan Agogi, which is a 60 hour endurance event. And it's insane. I mean,

00:36:57.880 it's absolutely insane, but you walk away a completely, a completely new person. And if

00:37:02.420 I remember right, what did you say? 13 or 14 hours? Is that right? And it's, and it's based on,

00:37:06.920 is it based on seal training? Cause Mark Devine is a seal commander. So is it, is it a seal type

00:37:11.900 training? Is that what it is? Yeah. So the crucible is, I don't want to spoil it for everyone that gets

00:37:17.540 in there, but however, we do do Murph, which is a hundred pull-ups, 200 push-ups, 300 air squats.

00:37:23.400 We do that about halfway through the event in soaking wet clothing.

00:37:27.440 I mean, most people can't do that in the perfect of conditions.

00:37:31.620 Well, with Murph, you get to pause. So it's not like you have to bang out 200 push-ups all at once,

00:37:35.760 but like, it'll still rock your core. It's no laughing matter, but, but also to think about this,

00:37:42.000 whatever the coaches find in you, that's your weakness. They're going to dig into it.

00:37:46.880 They want to exploit that.

00:37:47.720 They will dig into whatever they find out about you. And for me, it was selfishness,

00:37:52.240 right? And so that's what I got to learn. That's what I got to sit with and digest. And it's like,

00:37:56.560 ah, how do I make my life? Not about me. You know, how do I respect the beast,

00:38:00.620 but how do I serve the greater mission?

00:38:02.720 And how has your life changed after an event like that?

00:38:05.940 I would say biggest way it's changed is this continuous openness, a continuous openness to

00:38:12.060 are my actions is my mission is what I'm up to in the world, truly affecting others in a way where

00:38:18.860 I believe that their life is better because of it. And that's not always an easy thing to do. It's

00:38:24.340 like sometimes you get to really take an inventory and go, wow, my actions are not affecting my community

00:38:29.740 or my family or people in the way that I want. And you must choose in that moment. You get to choose

00:38:34.320 in that moment to change it. So I think what it really did, honestly, man, is kind of crack me open

00:38:38.580 like a coconut and let some of the toxicity pour out. And that toxicity was, you know,

00:38:43.480 the fear wolf, the wolf that says be selfish. How do you find the balance between, and this is

00:38:48.440 going back to something you said earlier, which is the ability to take care of yourself. And then

00:38:52.540 this other side of things, which is to serve and to give and not to be selfish to the other people

00:38:57.940 around you. I think it's been a continuous narrative. You know, I hate to go back to just this

00:39:06.620 reductionistic explanation for you and the audience here, but it's like, I can't single

00:39:11.900 out one thing. It's more around, will I continue to choose to be open to a continuous inventory of

00:39:19.000 how I'm showing up, of what's going on with me? And then am I also too, this is a big one. Am I

00:39:23.800 willing to be vulnerable with the men that I trust? Am I willing to talk about the question you just

00:39:29.160 asked me with the men that I trust? Have you been able to do that?

00:39:34.820 It's funny this week we actually just met and I was telling them about a strain in business that

00:39:39.780 I was going through. And, uh, I just let myself cry for a second. You know, it wasn't like a 14,

00:39:45.180 15 minute cry, but it's like, sometimes as men, like our greatest fear around crying is that we're

00:39:49.340 going to be seen as weak. But what's interesting is if you just choose to let yourself cry in a

00:39:54.000 trusted space, like in a men's group, they, you can go kick ass in the rest of your life. 1.00

00:39:57.840 Right. You just have that outlet, right? 0.99

00:39:59.740 Just to have the outlet. But, but what happens is that we do have kind of like the narrative that

00:40:04.520 says, if a man cries, then he's a, he's a wuss, which that's absolutely not true as well.

00:40:09.060 Yeah. I mean, yeah, there's always, of course we, we have emotions, right? We're human beings. I

00:40:12.940 think like, like you said earlier, you know, trying to hide those things doesn't do any justice. In fact,

00:40:16.920 I look at emotions as, as a powerful tool. I mean, really it's an indicator for

00:40:21.960 things that are working well in your life or things aren't working well. And don't you want

00:40:26.800 to know that? So if you're having what most people would consider quote unquote negative emotions,

00:40:31.800 like grief, guilt, sorrow, remorse, well, those are great things because then you can recognize

00:40:37.580 and pinpoint why you're experiencing those things and then fix the problem. Hopefully that's the

00:40:42.800 objective. Yeah. It's almost like a barometer, right? It's saying, Hey, we have a dashboard on our

00:40:48.520 car. I think what's missing from our current society is like, where's our emotional dashboard?

00:40:53.600 Like, how do we tactically manage our emotions, allow ourselves to feel them and then kick the

00:40:58.080 ones out that don't have any meaning? Yeah. I mean, it's interesting. You use that analogy.

00:41:01.840 I actually use that in the book, the analogy in the book. And I talk about the fuel gauge,

00:41:05.700 you know, if your fuel gauge hits, hits empty and you run out of gas on the road, you're not mad at

00:41:11.460 the car for running out of gas. You're mad at yourself for not filling up before you left.

00:41:15.720 And it's such a good analogy, man. I'm stoked on your book, by the way, I get to,

00:41:19.660 I'm going to read this book and do a review. Good. Yeah. That'd be awesome. Well, Hey man,

00:41:23.020 we're bumping up against time here. I can't believe how fast this has gone and always appreciate your

00:41:27.360 energy. Let's ask a couple of questions as we wind down. The first one I know you're familiar

00:41:31.460 with is what does it mean to be a man? What it means to be a man has changed, but at its core remains

00:41:39.260 the same. It is, can you own your life in all ways, you know, relationship in wealth and in your

00:41:46.960 physical health. And also can you hold space for the feminine? Can you truly hold space for the

00:41:53.340 feminine? And that has a couple of parts. It's, can you work on your patients on a continuous basis?

00:41:59.080 Can you work on your emotional intelligence? You know, do I, do you fly off the handle? Do you try

00:42:03.500 to solve your wife's problems or your girlfriend's problems instead of just being there and letting

00:42:08.380 her talk? It's the ownership and it's the holding of the space that I believe is the fortification of

00:42:14.380 what masculinity needs right now in the world the most. Powerful man. Powerful stuff. Well, 0.98

00:42:20.560 brother, how do we connect with you? Where do we find out more about what you're doing and where do we

00:42:23.940 direct the guys? Yeah. Just awesome. Loved the questions, Ryan. It's just so on point, man. I did not

00:42:29.700 tell that you're under the weather at all. Good, good. Maybe I'll edit that out and we won't let

00:42:33.460 anybody know. Yeah. So wellnessforce.com, wellnessforce, all over social. And, you know,

00:42:39.600 we explored this physical and this emotional as Ryan had come on the show and we talked about

00:42:44.220 masculine and feminine as well. So, you know, allow yourself to explore some of these concepts,

00:42:48.360 like don't be afraid to dig into emotion and trust yourself to know what serves you and what

00:42:52.620 doesn't. And it's wellnessforce.com. Right on, man. We'll link that all up. We'll send the guys there

00:42:57.000 as always. And I've mentioned this before already in this interview, appreciate the energy

00:43:00.600 and the enthusiasm for what you're doing and your level of preparation, man. I've always been blown

00:43:05.160 away with that as well. I know when I came on and how well you were prepared and how well you're

00:43:08.880 prepared for this conversation is, is evident. So I want to let you know, I appreciate you and the way

00:43:13.180 you show up and looking forward to building a friendship with you, man. Likewise, Ryan. Thank

00:43:16.640 you so much, man. Gentlemen, there it is my conversation with Josh Trent. Like I said before,

00:43:22.020 I always appreciate anyone who is fired up about life and the impact that he is making. And I think

00:43:27.880 you can probably agree that describes Josh, uh, if you'd like to learn more about what he's up to

00:43:32.640 connect with him and make sure you share this guys. I don't ask that you do a whole lot around here,

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00:43:59.200 from what we're doing, or you can do all three of those things. Very simple guys. And while you're

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00:44:10.300 what you thought about the show. And again, I say this every week, specifically what you're going to

00:44:14.460 do in your life differently. Having heard this conversation, knowledge, isn't power knowledge

00:44:20.620 applied is. So we love to hear from you guys as far as what you are applying in your life.

00:44:26.560 And also, like I mentioned a couple of times throughout the show, please go ahead and take

00:44:29.640 a look at the uprising, which again, is going to be held on May 3rd through the 6th, 2018.

00:44:35.020 You can go to order of man.com slash uprising to learn more about what we're going to do.

00:44:39.560 It is not going to disclose everything that we're going to do. There's an element of surprise to it.

00:44:45.020 Now that's part of the experience. That's part of the adventure, but it'll give you enough

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00:44:51.980 You can lock in your spot again at order of man.com slash uprising. We only have those 10 or 11 spots

00:44:58.760 or so. So make sure that you get on it quick. With that said, guys, I will sign out today. I

00:45:02.900 appreciate you being on this path, you being on this journey, us standing shoulder to shoulder in

00:45:07.880 this thing and reclaiming what it means to be a man. The world needs it now more than ever.

00:45:12.440 We absolutely could not do this without you guys. So I'm glad you're part of the order

00:45:16.220 until Friday, take action and become the man you are meant to be.

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00:45:31.460 you're done.

00:45:34.680 You're good, huh?

00:45:36.840 You're right.

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Order of Man - February 20, 2018

153： Developing Physical and Emotional Intelligence ｜ Josh Trent

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