Order of Man - 156： Calling in Your Social Capital ｜ Jordan Harbinger

00:00:00.000 One year ago, I had my good friend Jordan Harbinger on the show to talk about building

00:00:03.740 social capital. Today, he's back on the show to talk about calling in that social capital

00:00:08.980 through a series of unfortunate events with his business. He's had to reach out to his network,

00:00:14.780 his connections, his friends, and request help in building a new business from the ground up.

00:00:19.500 Without his work in building a strong network in the past, Jordan admits that he'd be in a much

00:00:24.360 worse position today. So in this episode, we talk about why keeping score in relationships

00:00:28.980 is a bad idea, how to get over asking people for help, something Jordan calls systematic network

00:00:35.420 maintenance, and how to call in your social capital. You're a man of action. You live life to the

00:00:40.860 fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back

00:00:46.400 up one more time. Every time. You are not easily deterred, defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.

00:00:53.940 This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day,

00:00:59.100 and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

00:01:03.640 Gentlemen, what is going on today? My name is Ryan Mickler, and I am the host and the founder

00:01:07.520 of this podcast, The Order of Man. First and foremost, I want to welcome you to this show.

00:01:12.080 This is the best show in the world of podcasting for men, I believe. Obviously, I'm a bit biased,

00:01:17.460 but there's millions of men across the planet who would also agree with me. What we're doing here,

00:01:22.360 guys, in case you don't know, is we're interviewing the world's most successful men, warriors, athletes,

00:01:27.120 scholars, business owners, and anybody, frankly, that is going to help each and every one of us

00:01:33.240 become a better man. That's what we're all about here. Again, I've said it before, in a world that

00:01:37.720 seems to dismiss masculinity altogether, we are standing strong. We are calling men to step up

00:01:43.780 more fully in their families, in their businesses, and in their communities. And so to that end,

00:01:47.920 again, we're interviewing the world's most successful men. We're extracting their wisdom,

00:01:52.000 their lessons, their skills, their tools, their resources, their strategies for making their

00:01:56.660 life such a success. And then of course, using that to help us make our lives a success.

00:02:02.140 We also have a show that we do every week called Friday Field Notes, where you get to listen to me

00:02:05.980 for 10 or 15 minutes on some thoughts that I've been having throughout the week. And then we just

00:02:10.080 released a third show. You probably heard it last week. It comes out every single Wednesday. It's

00:02:15.340 called In the Trenches. And if you haven't heard it yet, I definitely, definitely recommend that you do.

00:02:19.620 We're going to start this off with 12 different shows, get your feedback, get your input. And of

00:02:24.820 course, you can let us know what you think. And then we'll, we'll evaluate it from there. We'll

00:02:28.400 decide if we're going to continue. But at the end of the day, the goal of that Wednesday show that

00:02:32.740 we're releasing is to interview ordinary, everyday, average Joes like you and me who are doing good

00:02:39.000 things. And we're having some setbacks and we're overcoming some challenges and some hurdles.

00:02:43.640 And this is real life. So we want to interview guys again, like you and me who are in the

00:02:47.680 trenches, who are doing the thing and talk about what's working, talk about what's not working

00:02:51.800 and try to improve our lives. So I actually do not host that podcast. A good friend of mine,

00:02:57.420 Everett Bubba Downs, he is the host of that podcast. Last week, it was me and him,

00:03:01.860 but moving forward, it's going to be him and some other guests. So it's a very quick,

00:03:05.680 actionable conversation with guys who are actually in the trenches doing the work. So make sure you tune

00:03:10.960 into that. Outside of that, only one announcement that I have for you right now. And that is our band of

00:03:16.560 Brothers, the Iron Council. I know you guys have heard me talk about this over and over and over

00:03:20.820 again. We had 10 or 11 people sign up just last week, and it's a testament to what we're doing

00:03:27.160 over there. And the goal within the Iron Council is a brotherhood. It's an organization, a group of

00:03:31.940 men who are all working together to improve their lives, enhance their marriages, enhance the

00:03:36.820 relationships they have with their children, lose weight, get in shape, run marathons, do Spartan races,

00:03:42.700 start businesses, grow their bank accounts. I mean, you name it, what are you trying to accomplish?

00:03:48.240 And then consider how are you accomplishing that? And inside the Iron Council, we have the framework,

00:03:52.940 the foundation, the skills, the tools, the resources. And I think one of the biggest things

00:03:57.280 that we have available in the Iron Council is the accountability. You are not going to get

00:04:01.940 accountability outside of the Iron Council like you will with what we've created there. These are

00:04:07.220 motivated, dedicated, committed men who are improving their lives, and they're working

00:04:11.960 very, very hard to help you improve yours. So if you're interested, you want to learn more

00:04:17.260 about what we're all about and the things that we're up to in the Iron Council, in our brotherhood,

00:04:21.380 head to orderofman.com slash Iron Council. Now guys, as I said before, that is all the announcements

00:04:27.340 that I have for you today. I want to jump right into this one. It is my privilege to introduce you to

00:04:32.900 a good friend of mine. And what's really interesting is years ago, three years ago,

00:04:37.360 I remember listening to Jordan Harbinger on his podcast and thinking how talented he was and how

00:04:44.640 much I would like to connect with him. And again, I've had the privilege of getting to know him and

00:04:48.520 building a friendship up over the past three years now. And this is actually his third visit on the

00:04:53.440 show. And every single conversation I've ever had with Jordan has been packed with value and insight

00:05:00.360 and wisdom. He actually reached out to me about a month or so ago after having left his previous

00:05:05.640 business, The Art of Charm. I know a lot of you guys are familiar with The Art of Charm and he

00:05:09.680 informed me that he was striking out on his own. Again, I know a lot of you have listened to it.

00:05:14.480 You're familiar with his previous company and probably follow it as well. So you probably also know that

00:05:19.580 Jordan had a little bit of a falling out with the other founders and frankly, just found himself

00:05:24.160 needing to tap into his social capital, which he has been building for years. And we've had previous

00:05:30.100 conversations about this. But the thing that impresses me most about Jordan and again,

00:05:34.920 getting to know him is that it is apparent. It is apparent to me that this is a man who

00:05:40.420 applies in his own life, what is teaching other people as much as I wish that we were having this

00:05:46.260 conversation under different circumstances. In this conversation, you're going to hear exactly

00:05:51.000 how I believe he's going to crush his new business venture using the skills and the tools and the

00:05:56.680 strategies and everything that he's been teaching other people for more than a decade in his

00:06:01.880 business. So guys, if you can sit back, take some notes, you're going to want to implement this stuff

00:06:07.440 in your life when it comes to building up your social capital, building out your networks, because

00:06:11.340 you never know when you're going to need to use it. Jordan, what's going on, man? Glad you are on the

00:06:17.560 show again today. Thanks for having me, man. I appreciate it. I'm on the order of man. In my head,

00:06:23.100 there's that low movie guy voice that says something like order of man, right? That's right.

00:06:27.980 Absolutely. Well, you were talking about it the other day. I think you were talking about like

00:06:30.720 morning podcast voice or nighttime podcast voice. I think you mentioned something like that, which

00:06:35.060 is a real thing, like a genuine thing. Yeah, it is morning podcast voice. And I was at social

00:06:39.120 media marketing world and I was like walking next to my wife and I said, man, I wish my voice

00:06:42.860 always sounded like this because somebody said, where's Starbucks? And I said, oh, it's right across the

00:06:46.480 street. And then you make a right. And I was like, oh man, wouldn't it be cool if I sounded like that

00:06:50.340 all the time? Wouldn't that be great? And Jen's like, oh, that's really funny. Traffic back up on

00:06:55.180 the 405 all the way down to Encinitas. It's like, that sounds so rad. I would be a voiceover guy for

00:07:01.100 like K-Rock or something. But it is interesting, even with podcasting, like you hear some guys who have

00:07:05.500 the just the beautiful like golden radio voice, but then you hear guys like Adam Carolla who have the

00:07:10.660 most annoying voice in the world and yet have a huge following in podcast base. Yeah, I can't say

00:07:15.900 anything about Carolla because I go on there every month with him and Dr. Drew as a regular guest.

00:07:20.140 So what I will say is this, the reason he's well known and does a great show is not because of his

00:07:25.600 voice. Cause you're right. He does kind of say, well, uh, I don't really buy into that, you know,

00:07:32.540 that's a, yeah, that's a great, that's a great impression. But then you go, oh, he's funny. His

00:07:37.440 opinions are strong. He can argue really well. And then he's very quick on his feet. So yeah,

00:07:42.900 he's one of those radio guys that he's not Larry King where they went, this is the guy,

00:07:47.460 right? Right. Exactly. And you know how he got that job. You might know this better than me,

00:07:51.300 but I think he was like a construction worker and he called in every day to some other guy's radio

00:07:55.980 show as a regular. And he was so damn funny. They started inviting him into the studio and then they

00:08:01.100 just went, this guy's got a talent for this. So that's why he does TV shows like to catch a

00:08:05.960 contractor because that was his original vocation is that. And I think working on cars, radio was a thing

00:08:11.780 he did because he didn't like his job. Interesting. I just remember him and Jimmy

00:08:16.780 Kimmel from the man show. That's, that's what I remember. Well, you and I grew up on,

00:08:21.000 and this leads into an interesting point, right? Cause your whole business is you set a positive

00:08:26.020 example for guys, right? And pardon me if I'm telling you about your own brand. So feel free

00:08:30.640 to correct me, but that's kind of what you're aiming at. I think that's pretty good. Yeah.

00:08:33.880 The man show was kind of the quintessential, wow, this should not be on television. This is really

00:08:38.900 bad. Oh, a hundred percent. Completely inappropriate. I don't know how old I was,

00:08:43.800 but I remember not being super impressed with it. I was already too old for it. And I think I was like

00:08:48.420 13 or 14 years old. And I remember them going, all right, juggies, which are the girls jumping on the 0.95

00:08:53.300 trampoline. And I just thought this is kind of dumb, you know? Right. And the guy who drinks the beer at 0.96

00:08:58.800 the end. And I just thought this is like a very cliche thing. I knew it was a joke. And maybe when you

00:09:03.500 were watching it, you knew it was a joke, but the problem is tons of my friends watched that

00:09:08.280 and they thought it was great. And I don't think they thought, wow, this is so funny. Look at this

00:09:12.680 satirical, look at what it means to be a man. I think they went guys like all this stuff and they

00:09:17.140 drink a lot and they like boobs and they demean women. And it's like, they didn't see the satire 0.95

00:09:21.400 in it. Definitely. No. And I'm not even sure. Now that I think about it, now that we're talking

00:09:25.220 about this, was it satire or was it just a bad television show that should not have been on TV?

00:09:30.600 Maybe that's the point. It was just designed to confuse us, right?

00:09:33.600 Yeah. Who knows? But there's plenty of stuff that is designed to confuse men in every aspect of their

00:09:40.440 life intentionally or not. When I was growing up, things were more or less black and white,

00:09:45.740 even though things were changing. I cannot imagine being a 12 year old boy right now.

00:09:50.840 Oh man. I mean, I've got my oldest is 10 and some of the stuff that he hears at school and from his

00:09:56.980 teachers and his buddies, I'm like, are you kidding me? That's what other boys are talking

00:10:01.120 about. That's what you're being taught. That's what you're learning. It's absolutely asinine,

00:10:04.640 which is why I think it's so important that we step up as men in the family, because 0.97

00:10:07.740 frankly, they're just not getting it outside of the walls of our homes.

00:10:11.600 I believe that. And I'm not conservative. You're much more, I mean, you and I've been friends for a

00:10:15.860 long time. I think it's safe to say if there's a center, you're on the right of it and I'm on the left

00:10:21.060 of it. Yeah. Yeah. I'd agree. We get along really well because I'm not one of those people who says

00:10:25.560 you own guns and it means you're a murderer now. You know, I don't do that. And when I see your kid

00:10:31.840 holding an assault rifle or something, I'm like, holy crap, that's intimidating and scary. But I 0.98

00:10:36.420 also realize it's because I didn't grow up that way. Not because everything Ryan does is wrong and

00:10:40.580 everything I grew up with is right and normal. And I think that there's a problem outside of that,

00:10:44.960 because I would imagine some of the things that your kids are hearing in school are contrary to the

00:10:49.540 things they're learning at home. And so they're confused.

00:10:52.380 Well, I think where I'm at, I'm in Southern Utah, very small community, very, very conservative

00:10:57.160 generally. And so I think there's probably a little bit more alignment between what they're being taught

00:11:01.900 in school and what I'm teaching at home. We all have very similar cultural backgrounds, religious

00:11:07.360 views and beliefs. So it's very similar, but I think outside of where we are in this little bubble,

00:11:12.820 if you will, it's completely different. So we do have an advantage from that perspective.

00:11:17.180 I'm in my own bubble and I've realized it recently as well, especially with the recent election.

00:11:22.240 And so one of the things that I've been working on for the last, I don't know, decade is

00:11:27.020 relationships. And that was what I came on the show to talk about. I don't know, was it a year ago?

00:11:32.320 Actually a year. Exactly. I was looking at it was March 14th of last year, and we actually titled

00:11:38.400 it building social capital. Okay. So I thought this would be a really good conversation because now

00:11:42.900 you talked about it, you came on the show, this is what you need to do. This is how you build

00:11:46.180 social capital. And right now you're in the midst of some crazy and wild stuff that you're actually

00:11:50.900 having to implement what it is you're teaching to millions of people across the planet. I think

00:11:56.000 this is going to be a really fascinating discussion. Yeah. I'm excited about it because it is funny

00:12:00.000 that I came on so long ago and discussed social capital because one of the principles that we teach

00:12:05.780 on the Jordan Harbinger show. And if my voice sounds familiar and you say, isn't that the art of charm

00:12:09.440 guy? The answer is, was the art of charm guy. I've left that company. I no longer host that show.

00:12:15.100 There really isn't much of one going right now. And I do the Jordan Harbinger show,

00:12:19.200 which is the same sort of quality interviews that people were used to before and the advice.

00:12:23.080 But the way that that happened was not at all what had been planned. You know, what had been planned

00:12:28.120 was a nice, smooth transition. And then the negotiation sort of fell apart, which is ironic

00:12:34.420 for a company that teaches relationship skills. And I'm sure you've gotten some pushback and some

00:12:38.340 flack on that. I'm sure of it. Actually, I haven't, because I think it's probably pretty obvious

00:12:42.920 for most people that when one side says it's an amicable split and they're like, oh, so Jordan

00:12:48.120 built a show for 11 years and founded a company and then suddenly left with the whole team and

00:12:52.220 now is not having anything to do with it. Yeah, that sounds amicable, right?

00:12:55.680 Sure, sure. There's some red flags there, right? There's a few flags there that an educated,

00:12:59.920 smart person might see through. And so that's kind of what I'm going through right now, which is like

00:13:04.240 a split that was sudden, not designed at all by, let's say, our side of the fence.

00:13:09.860 And so it's been completely reactive. And what that did was cause a lot of stress and anxiety

00:13:14.980 for those people on my team, because almost the entire team, the majority of the staff came with

00:13:19.440 me on this journey, this unintentional adventure. And one of the principles that I teach at our

00:13:26.240 courses and things like that about networking and relationship development is always give without

00:13:30.960 the expectation of anything in return. So you've seen Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross, always be closing,

00:13:36.160 right? You know that scene?

00:13:37.220 Sure. Yeah, of course. So we have ABG, which is always be generous or always be giving.

00:13:42.160 What that essentially lines up to is helping other people without the expectation of anything

00:13:46.820 in return. Now, when you're helping other people without the expectation of anything in return,

00:13:50.660 that's great because it's sort of like a privileged thing to do. You're in this very abundant,

00:13:57.280 I hate words like that, but you're in this very abundant position where it's like,

00:14:00.900 look, I can make 25 email introductions for Ryan Michler. I don't mind. He's a nice person.

00:14:05.200 I can do that. I don't lose anything, right? I'm not going to go, hey, Ryan, I need $20 per

00:14:10.100 introduction. Since I did that for you, I want to sleep on your couch for three weeks. I'm not

00:14:13.940 doing that. This isn't quid pro quo. But when you do that for a long enough period of time,

00:14:18.720 and you're giving without the expectation of anything in return, often I'm not asking for

00:14:22.000 anything in return. However, now I'm in a scenario where I'm going, oh crap, I really need other

00:14:28.280 people's help now. So I gave without the expectation of anything in return, but I really believed that I

00:14:33.580 would never need anything in return from most of these folks that I helped. Thank God I did that

00:14:38.700 because right now, starting from basically zero with the Jordan Harbinger show, I can either spend

00:14:45.220 another 11 years rebuilding the show or I can do here, which is in the matter of just a few weeks,

00:14:50.760 700 iTunes reviews, almost a million downloads of the new show and having people tweet it out and

00:14:56.420 mail it out and having influencers like Kevin Rose and Kevin Harrington from Shark Tank tweeting it,

00:15:01.340 mailing it out, you know, just opportunities like coming on your show, Order of Man to speak

00:15:05.180 with your audience. These are things that if I was unknown to you or if I had never struck up a

00:15:10.700 relationship with you by hanging out in various places or whatever, coming on the show and having

00:15:15.200 you do other stuff for us before, if those hadn't been in place, I would be in a very, very, very

00:15:20.460 different situation right now that would look a lot more bleak because it's easy when you're on the top

00:15:27.220 of the mountain. You know, the Art of Charm when I was hosting it had 4.1 million downloads. I mean,

00:15:32.100 that was insane. It took 11 years to get there. That was crazy. I could have easily just been like,

00:15:38.120 oh, well, I'm important now, so screw everyone. But that's not really my style, as you may or may

00:15:43.280 not have noticed from knowing me for the past few years. I think I figured that. Well, what's

00:15:47.120 interesting even is about, let's just take the example of you reaching out to me, which I think was

00:15:51.240 probably, I don't know, two or three weeks ago, specifically about, hey, can I come on the show?

00:15:55.380 So there wasn't a question in my mind at all. Like, oh, I don't know. Like, I don't know this

00:15:59.340 Jordan guy or what he wants to talk about. It was like, yeah, absolutely. Because we have built up

00:16:03.540 that friendship and we have built up that social capital with each other that when the time comes

00:16:07.980 that you need a favor, it's not like, well, did he do enough favors for me to warrant me doing this

00:16:12.440 one favor for him? There wasn't even really a score. It was just, hey, I want to help a friend out

00:16:17.060 and I want to see you succeed. And because I want to see you succeed, nothing other than that.

00:16:21.260 Yeah. That's important because I think what a lot of young, and I'm going to say guys,

00:16:26.600 because your audience is men, but when I say this, I mean people, I mean, anybody listening

00:16:29.540 is in this boat. What we do is we go, okay, well, I don't know what I can get from Jordan

00:16:36.780 or from Ryan because I'm a graphic designer and I don't know what those guys have. So I'm not going

00:16:42.280 to look for ways to help them right now, unless they, maybe, maybe I would if they asked me because

00:16:46.740 I'm a nice person, but I'm not thinking of ways I can help them per se, because I don't know

00:16:50.740 what I would get. The problem with that is if you're not helping other people without the

00:16:54.740 expectation of anything in return, you only see the opportunities that you're going for,

00:16:59.580 right? So I needed to come on order of man to help people realize that I'd left the art

00:17:04.340 of charm because I never got a chance to say goodbye to the audience. And I started the

00:17:07.340 Jordan Harbinger show. So this is utilitarian for me. However, if this was the first time

00:17:12.700 we had ever spoken or that email that I sent was the first time we'd ever spoken, you would

00:17:16.400 not have said yes. Well, I would assume you probably wouldn't have said yes because it would

00:17:19.560 have been kind of like, Hey person I've never heard of before, or that never spoke to me

00:17:23.840 when you thought you were a big shot with your podcast. It's the dozens of other emails

00:17:28.180 that I get every single week. Like, Hey, I've got something that I want to share with your

00:17:31.300 audience. It's like, okay, great. But I don't know who you are. So it would have got lost

00:17:34.740 in everything else that I hear in the noise. Here's my infographic. Please post it on your

00:17:38.560 website. That's my, that's what's happening to me now. What's what is that? There's some sort

00:17:42.620 of thing with infographics. The one for me is the beard beard infographics. Like you wouldn't

00:17:47.020 believe all the time. Would you like to share this? No, I would not like to share this.

00:17:50.520 Thank you though. You must have written the word beard on a couple of blog posts and now

00:17:53.980 you're just showing up first in Google for like beards. Yeah. So that's your fault.

00:17:58.940 Yeah. I am really curious though. Cause I want to go back to something you said, you said the

00:18:03.640 majority of the team went with you. And I think that's pretty telling. It's probably easy

00:18:08.180 to gloss over too, but there's gotta be a reason for that. Like why would your team risk

00:18:12.520 their livelihood frankly and say, all right, I'm going to strike it out with Jordan. It almost 1.00

00:18:16.720 reminds me of, um, Oh, what's that show with Tom Cruise where he's like, who's coming with me?

00:18:21.280 You know what I mean? Yeah. Jerry Maguire, Jerry Maguire. Yes. Why would they go with you? I'm

00:18:25.440 really curious about your perspective on that. Yeah. So I would love to say I stood up in the

00:18:29.620 art of charm office, which doesn't exist and say, you know, cause it was in my house. Now it's the

00:18:34.420 Jordan Harbinger show office and say, who's coming with me. And then my wife who works next to me is 1.00

00:18:39.620 like, I guess I will. Right. That's not really what happened though. What happened first was

00:18:44.520 I've got to be careful cause this is an ongoing legal situation. But basically I think the people

00:18:50.100 on the team had already had issues with what was going on behind the scenes and they were already

00:18:58.420 working more closely with each other. And so when I left that included the podcast team,

00:19:05.480 which went, well, we're not working here without you because we do the show and you're part of

00:19:09.600 the show. I host the show. We're not going to sit here and work with the rest of the people that

00:19:14.620 are left. And so that sort of congealed into a mass of people that went, yeah, well, if you're

00:19:19.980 leaving, I'm leaving. And then other people were also dismissed. And then it was like, well, if that

00:19:24.120 person's leaving, then I did it. And so that just sort of snowball effect. And then it was like, well,

00:19:29.220 people who could have stayed, decided not to other people were terminated. And then still other

00:19:33.200 people were just like, well, I don't really have anything to do here anymore. So frankly, you know,

00:19:38.460 I got to say, if you're working for a company and everybody that you know that you thought was

00:19:42.860 talented, worked there and left, you might not want to stick around. Yeah, good point.

00:19:47.700 You know, I have to be careful about how I phrase all this because I don't want to damage the

00:19:52.820 business that I left because I still own a part of it. It's just it didn't turn out the way that

00:19:58.360 it was supposed to and agreed upon previously. I'd like to say, oh, well, once I left, everybody

00:20:03.720 decided, screw this place. And that's not what happened. You know, what happened was there was

00:20:07.900 some of that, but most of it was probably a little more nuanced. But I have thought, like, wouldn't

00:20:13.480 it have been cool if I could have stood up in the office that we don't have and said, I'm striking

00:20:17.480 out of my own who's coming with me. But the truth is, Ryan, my team, my immediate team, they were

00:20:24.220 already wanting me to leave a long time ago, but they went, this is never going to happen. Why would he

00:20:30.380 leave the company that he started, that he owns, that he's been running for 11 years just

00:20:34.640 because we have gripes with management? And it's like, well, I had that choice sort of

00:20:39.000 made for me at that point because there was no other option that was realistic for me.

00:20:42.900 So it's strange to look at it because it's like, oh, my God, I can't sleep for all these

00:20:47.780 time. Then this is so stressful. And now what happened was I immediately started leaning

00:20:52.300 on my network and relationships because I had been giving without the expectation of anything

00:20:56.760 in return. I hadn't been keeping score with other people like you kind of mentioned. And

00:21:01.480 I had all these other strategies in place. So the first thing I did was I sat down with

00:21:05.500 Jen. Well, first thing I did was probably like walk around my neighborhood in disbelief.

00:21:09.820 Oh, sure. I'm just like freak out. I'm sure.

00:21:12.160 Yeah, there was some freak out. And then it was like, call the lawyer. And then it was like,

00:21:15.900 calm down. And then it was make a spreadsheet of everybody that I should call right now. And in

00:21:22.560 fact, this is a thought exercise that I would love to give the order of man. Legionnaires. 0.89

00:21:27.500 Is that what you call you? I like that. That's not what I call him. But I do like that.

00:21:31.540 Yeah, you should. I thought you gave that to me, but maybe not. Okay.

00:21:36.420 Well, I think so. You gave it to me just barely. So Legionnaire sounds badass. It's right on the tip

00:21:41.580 of my tongue because I know so many guys in your group that love it. Well, anyway, I'm calling

00:21:45.660 them Legionnaires today. So let's roll with it. 1.00

00:21:48.440 The homework is imagine you got laid off from your job today or your business just evaporated.

00:21:54.220 You know, you showed up and your computer was like, nope, not letting you check your email.

00:21:57.540 You're fired. You know, even if it's your own business, who are the 10 or 20 people that

00:22:02.240 you'd contact to solicit their advice on what to do next and people that you would ask for

00:22:07.300 help. And so make the list now and then reach out to those people now when you don't need

00:22:12.460 anything. Because what I've seen, and I'm sure you've seen this too, is, hey, whoa, I can't

00:22:19.000 believe my caller ID. What's going on, man? Oh, man, I'm kicked out of my house. I need

00:22:22.860 to borrow $800. And you're like, what?

00:22:25.180 Yeah, I haven't talked to you for three years or whatever it is.

00:22:27.900 Yeah, or 10 years. And you're just like, what that? And they're like, oh, yeah, things,

00:22:31.820 you know, life gets in the way. And I'm just thinking, no, you just.

00:22:35.100 Just didn't reach out.

00:22:36.460 Yeah, we're just not friends. And now you need something.

00:22:38.660 When you reach out to these guys, I mean, and I'm talking about before you, you know,

00:22:42.480 quote unquote, need anything. What type of contact are you making with them? Is it simply

00:22:47.200 just, hey, man, thinking of you, hope all is well. Or is it something deeper than that?

00:22:50.820 What does that actually look like?

00:22:52.020 Yeah, you know, at first I thought, OK, I've got to have a strategy whereby I give value

00:22:58.760 and it's got to be an article or something. And I still advise people to do that if they're

00:23:03.440 cold outreaching. You know, if you've never emailed Ryan Mickler and you're like, oh, hey,

00:23:07.820 look, I got to reach out. Or for me, I'm a sucker for weird news about North Korea and

00:23:13.060 stuff like that. So if you email Jordan at Jordan Harbinger dot com and you send me something

00:23:17.780 interesting, I might be like, wow, that was really random. Cool. Thanks, man.

00:23:20.900 But if you know me already, if you and I hadn't talked for three years, I might just send you

00:23:26.000 a text or an email that says, hey, man, I'm in San Diego. In fact, I think I did email

00:23:30.840 you this. And if I didn't, I should have. I was in San Diego last week and I was like, oh,

00:23:34.780 I remember walking this same path with Ryan Mickler.

00:23:37.980 Yeah, you did. You sent me a message. Yeah, I did. OK, that's an example of I would say

00:23:42.820 using it's called opportunistic network maintenance. And that's a fancy term for you log into Facebook.

00:23:48.340 Oh, this person in my newsfeed. I have not had a chance to talk with him for a while.

00:23:51.980 Oh, this other person in my newsfeed had a baby. Wow. OK, that's cool. I should send him

00:23:56.600 a text, not just click like, which is what a lot of people do.

00:24:02.980 Seven. That is the number of spots that we have left, guys, for this year's uprising.

00:24:08.460 If you aren't familiar with what that is now is the time to head to orderofmen.com slash

00:24:13.580 uprising and learn a little bit more about this three and a half day men's event in the mountains

00:24:18.480 of southern Utah. This experience is going to be held on May 3rd through the 6th, 2018. And it's

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00:24:28.900 self-defense training, survival training. We've got physical, mental and emotional challenges.

00:24:33.560 We've got amazing food, amazing scenery. We do firesides each and every night. All of this is

00:24:38.960 designed to do one thing, guys, just one very simple thing. Jar you out of the reality in which

00:24:45.600 you have found yourself. The reality is that most of us are living in a position of stagnation.

00:24:52.020 And there's no wonder that you're not producing the results that you're after this experience.

00:24:56.740 The uprising experience will give you a new foundation, a new framework, a new lens at

00:25:02.000 which to view your life moving forward. And that's what we want to do. We want to give you

00:25:06.100 the tools, the skills, the resources, the ability to transform your life in your relationships,

00:25:11.980 your business, your bank account, your body, every aspect of your life. So if you're interested,

00:25:17.240 at least want to know a little bit more about what we're up to, you've got to do it very

00:25:20.620 quickly. Again, we have seven spots. All you have to do is get to Las Vegas on May 3rd.

00:25:25.600 We will take care of the rest. We'll bring you back down to Las Vegas on May 6th.

00:25:29.640 So if you are interested, head to orderofman.com slash uprising, orderofman.com slash uprising.

00:25:35.380 I hope to see you there. Now, with that said, let's get back to the conversation with Jordan.

00:25:41.620 This is actually really interesting. One of the things that I did, and this specifically with my

00:25:45.940 financial planning practice, is I had so many financial advisors look at me really strange

00:25:50.300 when I did this. I'm like, if you guys aren't on Facebook, using that as a tool to maintain

00:25:54.460 contact with your existing clients, like you are completely missing the boat. Because what I would

00:25:58.580 do is I jump on Facebook and I would friend every client that I had, which a lot of advisors were

00:26:02.840 afraid to do. And if they had a baby or went on a vacation or had some exciting news or their kid

00:26:09.100 made all state or whatever it may be, that was an opportunity for me to connect with these people

00:26:13.600 in a way that was meaningful outside of the work that we were contracted to do together.

00:26:18.060 It was really, really powerful. Yeah, that's a great opportunity. And I think the reason people

00:26:22.260 are afraid to do that is they go, oh, you know, maybe it's invasive. Some people use Facebook only

00:26:27.840 for their friends. And, you know, I don't want to be invading their privacy. Ask yourself this

00:26:32.640 financial planner and everybody else who has a client based business. Do you think your friends are

00:26:37.560 more likely to do business with you or a total stranger? And the answer is obviously your friends.

00:26:42.200 We do business with people that we know, like, and trust. So why in the hell, if we're doing

00:26:46.540 business with people we know, like, and trust, would we decide to not become friends and get to

00:26:52.720 know, like, and trust the people that just walked into our office, for God's sake? It's like the

00:26:56.960 easiest layup in the world to do business with a friend. And so you can reverse engineer the process

00:27:02.840 too and say, hey, it's good to meet you. You know, we're going to be in business for years.

00:27:07.140 I'm not going to then go, oh, but I'm going to stay out of your personal life. 0.99

00:27:10.600 It's like, if you don't want someone in your personal life, don't post that crap on Facebook. 0.97

00:27:15.360 Isn't that interesting? It's like the people who put the little things like, 0.97

00:27:18.460 this is my information and Facebook can't share the little legal disclaimers. I'm like, dude,

00:27:22.000 you gave that right up a long time ago when you set up a Facebook account.

00:27:25.600 Exactly. It's in the fine print when you create the account and you can't change the agreement,

00:27:29.400 especially while you're using the service. You know, give me a break. You don't own the copyright.

00:27:35.200 Like, that's so ridiculous to me. And look, if someone is listening right now and they're like,

00:27:38.800 no, I would, I'm very private. If somebody tried to add me on Facebook, I would decline.

00:27:43.320 Okay. Decline then. But unless you're unreasonable, you're not going to go,

00:27:48.220 how dare you try to add me on Facebook, Ryan? You're just my financial planner. How dare you?

00:27:53.220 That's a weird reaction. And you don't want to work with that person anyway.

00:27:56.660 That's like an uncalibrated weirdo thing to do is get mad. If someone tries to add you,

00:28:01.080 you might just go, Hey, you know, I only have my family on here because we share a lot of

00:28:05.820 sensitive information. You have their freaking money. Right. Okay. Like that's more personal 0.98

00:28:11.420 for most people than their sex life. And you know, this, you know, this because you've all

00:28:15.740 heard your guy friends be like, yeah, I, me and my wife did this crazy thing in bed the other day.

00:28:20.640 And then you're like, cool. Are you saving for retirement? And they're like, how dare you?

00:28:23.740 Why would you ask me about that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so like it's more personal. Money is more

00:28:29.820 personal than sex any day for most people, especially guys. And so if you're in that business or any

00:28:34.780 business where people are doing financial transactions with you, you should be endeavoring

00:28:39.480 to become closer with them. And of course, respecting their personal boundaries that they

00:28:43.380 won't add you, but there's no reason not to add people on social media and things like that.

00:28:47.860 And the reason that sort of opportunistic network maintenance, like seeing people in your newsfeed,

00:28:52.920 using that as an opportunity is the mirror image or, or the foil to use ninth grade English

00:28:59.460 terminology of the following, which is systematic network maintenance. So I, I have this product

00:29:05.600 called contactually and it's run by my friends, the band or bond. It's really great. It's not free,

00:29:12.140 but it is worth it. And what it does is it goes in your Gmail. You play a little game where you drop

00:29:17.380 people into buckets and the buckets are like contact every 90 days, contact every 30 days,

00:29:21.940 contact every six months, contact every year, their birthday is this blah, blah, blah, blah. And then

00:29:26.740 every day it sends you an email and it's like, Hey, you haven't talked to Ryan Mickler in 90 days.

00:29:30.380 You want to send an email? You click yes. And then it goes, Hey Ryan, what's going on? It's Jordan.

00:29:35.460 We haven't spoken in a while. So it basically just systematically reminds me to reach out to people.

00:29:40.200 Some people will say that's cheating. I say, try keeping in touch with 1500 people a year.

00:29:45.960 Well, not only is it not cheating, I think it's a compliment. I look at it. Like if I'm in your

00:29:50.420 contactually database, for example, I actually looked at that as a compliment because I'm like, Oh,

00:29:54.540 Jordan at least cares enough about this relationship to create a system to make sure that we stay in

00:30:00.200 touch other than just when it happens, it happens. So I look at it as somebody who's actually invested

00:30:04.760 to some degree in the relationship. Exactly. And look, you're not a robot. You're

00:30:09.040 not going to remember everybody's deal and everybody's birthday and everybody's little

00:30:12.460 engagement. So that's why we use systematic and opportunistic at the same time, because then

00:30:18.760 we can use Facebook for the big stuff. Like, Oh my God, you got engaged. Oh my God, you got married

00:30:22.680 or Oh my gosh, you got a new car. You can use that then. And then every other time, which is

00:30:27.400 most of the rest of your year, you just have, Hey, I haven't talked to you in a while. I know you

00:30:31.600 had a baby last time we spoke because you can add notes to contactually. It's like last we spoke,

00:30:35.860 I texted him about his new kid, right? It's like, how's everything going? That's how you keep in

00:30:40.340 touch with people in a way that's effective. The other thing I'll say this is when you're using

00:30:44.860 opportunistic networking maintenance, like on Facebook and social media, don't just click like or write a

00:30:50.800 comment. If you see a big life event, if there was a flow chart where it was like less than less than

00:30:55.860 less than a like is less than a comment, which is less than an email, which is less than a text

00:31:01.120 message. In my opinion, that's debatable, which is less than a phone call, which is less than

00:31:05.600 meeting in person. Sure. So if you see someone with a big life event, don't click like, don't

00:31:10.560 leave a comment, send them a text. If you have their phone number, because fewer people are doing

00:31:14.740 that. If you don't have their phone number, send them an email. More people are doing that. It's

00:31:17.880 easier to get lost. But if they're near you or you're like, hey, I'm in Chicago or I'm going to

00:31:23.540 be there in two months, go out for a beer or get a coffee or go meet their new baby, even though you

00:31:29.420 haven't caught up with him and his wife since their wedding. That's better. It's better in that effort

00:31:34.860 of going to visit someone at their house. You are now more invested than somebody that they have been

00:31:40.840 texting or emailing back and forth with for three to five years, period. It's almost like when you get

00:31:46.360 reminders of so-and-so's birthday on Facebook and a thousand people send a happy birthday and it's

00:31:51.740 like, dude, why don't you just pick up your phone and shoot a text real quick and say, you can say

00:31:55.220 the same thing in a text and yet you're going to be the one that stands out or a phone call

00:31:59.400 because you just took that extra 30 seconds it took to do that. And now look, in the age of

00:32:04.480 smartphones, man, I know whenever anybody says that I'm like, you're old. In the age of smartphones.

00:32:08.800 Was there an age without smartphones? There was. Let me tell you. Let me tell you,

00:32:13.460 boy. There was. And so make a video. It's like, oh, hey, Ryan, happy birthday. We haven't talked

00:32:18.680 in a minute. I'm really glad that you are healthy and your beard's looking even better and redder

00:32:24.140 than it ever has. And that's pretty much it for me. Hope to see you again sometime soon. That's

00:32:28.480 better than a text that says happy birthday and has a balloon emoji. Facebook reminded me.

00:32:33.340 Yeah, they got 50 of those. It's still better than a like on their birthday message. It's still

00:32:38.200 better than a Facebook message, but a video is better than that. And like I said, giving someone a phone

00:32:42.840 call, even if they don't answer, you know, just, hey, I left you a message. You probably don't

00:32:47.060 check voicemail. Just want to let you know. Happy birthday. I really appreciate you. It's simple.

00:32:51.140 And you can do this for 20 minutes a day on your morning commute. If you have one, it's not something

00:32:57.160 that's going to radically alter your schedule. But what it will do is it will radically alter your

00:33:01.740 life. Because what I've said earlier cannot be understated, which is I would be so screwed right

00:33:07.780 now if all I had were in look, I've got 11 years worth of skills in broadcasting, right? Sure. Yeah.

00:33:14.640 You're not going to lose that. I'm not going to lose that. I've got a great team. Thankfully, they

00:33:18.160 came along for the ride in part because of some of the skills that we're talking about with social

00:33:21.160 capital here. But the other thing is, man, the network has been by and large the best thing. If

00:33:26.920 someone said, OK, I'm going to give you a million dollars in cash right now, but you can't have

00:33:33.880 anyone around you other than like your wife and family or even or even your staff. But

00:33:38.960 you get a million dollars in cash and start over. I would never accept that offer because

00:33:42.640 what I'm getting from these relationships right now that I need them, which is like a

00:33:48.100 lot of show appearances, people spreading the word, all the goodwill that I've got, being

00:33:52.020 able to book guests for the Jordan Harbinger show that is worth much more than a million dollars

00:33:58.000 in cash, especially after California taxes. Yeah. How did you feel when you actually started

00:34:04.960 to reach out to me and others to ask for some favors, ask for some help, ask for the things

00:34:10.600 that you needed? Like what's going through your mind? Is that a difficult thing? Does ego

00:34:13.880 get in the way? Like what does that actually feel like and look like? It was kind of funny

00:34:17.380 in the beginning because I went, oh, my God, I need to ask people for help. Right. And a lot

00:34:22.560 of my friends were like, oh, man, you know, are you nervous about that or are you worried

00:34:27.100 about that? Because some people were like, oh, you're going to find out who your friends

00:34:29.560 are. And when you hear that, you hear it from like a professional athlete on an ESPN

00:34:33.620 special who finds out that nobody cares about him anymore, that he's retired and has no

00:34:37.260 money. It's like when MC Hammer found out that all of his friends that he had spent all

00:34:41.680 this money on, like they didn't care about him anymore because he went broke. Right.

00:34:44.840 So like that's what you hear about. And I was worried about that because I was worried

00:34:49.100 that, oh, no, maybe these people are right. Maybe my value, my identity was only as the host

00:34:54.400 of the art of charm and wasn't just Jordan Harbinger and wasn't, you know, I mean, I

00:34:57.820 found out immediately that that wasn't true. Right. I sent out some softballs because I

00:35:02.100 was like, Ryan's going to help me. You know, other folks that I'm close with whose names

00:35:06.220 I won't drop on your show because there's no point. You know, those people will help

00:35:09.180 me. And what I did is I sort of softballed that. And those people were like, yeah, let's

00:35:13.620 get on a call tomorrow. I'm going to book you on our demand in this next month. It's

00:35:17.460 going to be great. And I was like, this is really helpful, you know, coming on order

00:35:20.860 of man. So that boosted my confidence a little bit to the point where I was like, OK, well,

00:35:25.080 these guys are already helping me. So if the next 50 or 80 people say no, I'm going to be

00:35:29.160 OK. At least you got this in the queue, right?

00:35:31.440 Yeah, exactly. I've got these birds in the hand or whatever. And then I reached out to

00:35:35.280 other folks. And what happened was really surprising. What happened was I reached out

00:35:39.760 to other folks and they said, yes, I'll help you. And I should introduce you to this guy,

00:35:44.620 Steve Gordon. And then I'd get introduced to Steve Gordon and Steve Gordon would go, oh, hey,

00:35:48.560 what's up, man? Big fan of what you guys are doing. I should introduce you to these

00:35:51.940 five people. And then I get introduced to them and they'd go, hey, I know you probably

00:35:55.780 have a lot on your plate, but I would also love to introduce you to these four. And so

00:35:59.800 now I find myself in this position where not only have my friends been helping me, but

00:36:04.740 my friends, friends, friends are now like, yeah, great. Let's figure out what we can do,

00:36:08.180 man. You know, let's make this happen. Some of that sure is, oh, this guy listened to

00:36:12.660 Art of Charm three years ago and liked what we had created and now listens to the Jordan

00:36:16.380 Harbinger show or we met at some conference or something like that. But a lot of it is

00:36:20.620 just, oh, hey, you know, my friend said you were kind of in trouble and I want to help

00:36:24.580 out because people like helping other people. Right. They do. They just need an opportunity

00:36:28.220 to do it. Right. Right. Right. And you and I are like that, too. But since we're in sort

00:36:33.460 of a public figure ish position, it's a little different because people are asking us for stuff

00:36:38.280 all the time. So I made the mistake of thinking, oh, man, I'm going to look like one of these

00:36:43.620 guys who's asking for stuff that I don't know that reach out and end up in my inbox.

00:36:48.060 But that wasn't what happened. What happened was I reached out and asked for something and

00:36:52.440 people went, oh, finally, an opportunity to help this person who's made introductions for

00:36:57.000 me or who has reached out about this or who was nice to me at this conference or who bought

00:37:00.420 me a drink once three years ago. That kind of stuff has been paying dividends. And that

00:37:05.960 was surprising because I had thought people are going to see me as a mooch or something.

00:37:10.120 And that that didn't happen because I'd already done the work. I dug the well before I was

00:37:14.320 thirsty. Now I'm thirsty. But I spent 10, 11, 12 years digging this well unintentionally,

00:37:20.380 not unintentionally, sorry, very deliberately, but not going one day I'm going to call these

00:37:25.640 guys and it's going to be a thing. Right. You weren't gaming it. Yeah. There was no gaming

00:37:29.700 the system. At best, I thought one day, maybe someday, possibly I'll write a book and I'll

00:37:35.500 have to call these people and do a press tour with them or something. But it was so not

00:37:39.520 conscious at all. It was just like that may or may not happen in the next decade. And

00:37:43.820 if it does, great. And even then, you have to get used to helping people without the expectation

00:37:48.280 of anything in return and do the ABG. Because look, if you help 100 people, 90 of them, you

00:37:54.000 just might never hear from them again. And if you're keeping score or you're sort of secretly

00:37:58.060 in the back of your head thinking that you'll be able to count on them later, you will universally

00:38:02.340 be disappointed. And what that'll do is it will stop you from wanting to always be generous

00:38:07.420 and always be giving and helping other people without that expectation because you're going

00:38:11.080 to feel burned because you're secretly keeping score in your head. And that's poisoning the

00:38:15.500 relationships that you're creating. I think it's important that you do get used to helping,

00:38:19.560 like you said, but to go back to what we were talking about a minute ago, I think it's also

00:38:22.800 important that you get used to accepting opportunities as well. Yes. And I think we have a really hard

00:38:27.460 time doing that, especially when our egos get in the way. Like one thing I always run against

00:38:30.720 is people will email me or shoot me a text or a Facebook message and say, Hey man, I really

00:38:35.400 love what you're doing. Can I help you with something? Please let me know. And I try to

00:38:39.520 make a very, very conscious effort of always accepting that offer. And it might just be,

00:38:44.600 dude, just leave me a review or share this episode or connect me with this person that

00:38:49.160 you know, because I don't want to rob that person of the opportunity to serve. And that's,

00:38:53.660 that's what they're asking. They want to serve. They want to help. And so who are we to say,

00:38:57.300 Nope, sorry. I deny that gift from you. You know, that's interesting. I hadn't really

00:39:01.360 thought about that because a lot of times people will ask to help. First of all, people

00:39:05.280 have been asking for internships for the Jordan Harbinger show and for my previous businesses

00:39:09.260 for the, as long as the business has been running. And it's never been a good experience

00:39:13.020 when I've said, sure, come on in. It's universally just cost me tons of money and headache and

00:39:17.580 time. And so I usually am like, Oh, I don't want to deal with this, but you're right. A lot

00:39:21.780 of people, they want to serve. And so a way that I've found that if you're listening to this

00:39:26.240 and you are a business owner of even a small business, create a Facebook group. This is probably

00:39:30.720 super obvious for people who are in their twenties. But for me at 38, it was like, Oh,

00:39:34.600 good idea. Create a Facebook group. I just created the Jordan Harbinger show Facebook group recently

00:39:39.500 because we had hundreds of emails in my inbox at jordanharbinger.com. And it was like, how can I

00:39:45.160 help? I want to help you rebuild this. I'm a huge fan. What can we do? And I just kept saying, yeah,

00:39:48.940 leave us a review. And it's like, this is kind of a waste, right? Because these people, they want to

00:39:53.340 share. It's like, I can either have a separate email list of all these people and then bug them,

00:39:57.420 or they can join a Facebook group and I'll post a new episode in there. And it's like,

00:40:00.940 all right, street team, share this widely. And they do. And why not assemble those people and get

00:40:07.180 them buying into what you're doing? Because they want that anyway. Like you said, they want to serve.

00:40:12.360 So it makes a lot of sense to allow them to do this. You know, it doesn't, it doesn't make sense

00:40:18.300 to not accept that simply because you can't see the opportunity between you and that person.

00:40:23.820 Like I said earlier, all those opportunities are over the horizon and

00:40:27.420 you have to help other people without the expectation of anything in return.

00:40:30.280 It's foolish not to let other people help you without the expectation of anything in return.

00:40:35.180 Right. Great point. Well, Hey man, I hate to cut us short. I know you've got a hard stop.

00:40:38.820 I've got a hard stop. We could continue this conversation all day long. And of course,

00:40:42.800 I recommend anybody who's listening to this show to check out your show, the Jordan Harbinger show,

00:40:46.340 because it'll get a lot of this information and so much more. But before we wind things down,

00:40:50.840 I didn't prepare you today, but you've answered it twice. So I've got to ask you to answer it a

00:40:54.220 third time. And that question is what does it mean to be a man?

00:40:57.220 Oh, that's interesting. You're right. I have answered this twice. Watch. I say like the

00:41:00.980 complete opposite of something I'd said before. So I got to be careful. I don't think we have,

00:41:04.740 I mean, we've got 157 or eight interviews now and not one of them are the same. So don't worry

00:41:09.840 about that, man. Oh, interesting. Yeah. This is an evolving question for me. And what I've noticed

00:41:15.280 in my life recently is that there's a lot of easy ways out. Oh, I'll network later. I don't want to

00:41:22.360 figure this out. I'll sleep in today, but I will, you know, I'll go to the gym tomorrow. I'll, you

00:41:27.060 know, I'll set a better example when I know people are watching. It really is in a way doing the hard

00:41:32.620 thing. You know, this isn't a universal definition, but doing the hard thing. You know, if I see dirty

00:41:36.880 dishes in the sink, sometimes I'll wash them. Not all the time. Cause I'm often running around the

00:41:41.500 house literally, but it's like, I could look at them and go, yeah, my wife will get to that later.

00:41:45.300 Why? Why should I leave that for, or the other day I saw a perfect cat butthole shaped stain on 0.66

00:41:52.260 the wall. I'll let you guess how that got there. And I was like, Oh, that's weird. You know,

00:41:57.180 gentle scrape that out. And I was like, no, I'm just going to wipe this thing off. Why am I way?

00:42:01.680 And it's, it's kind of just like, do the hard thing. Oh, I got to bring these boxes downstairs.

00:42:05.460 Oh, you know, if I leave it there long enough, someone else will get it. It's like, no, you know,

00:42:10.200 do the hard thing. And I don't always follow that rule because nobody's perfect, but I'll tell you,

00:42:15.580 it's really nice because people notice it and they appreciate it. And when I talk to guys like

00:42:21.020 Jocko, he's all about that too. If you sense some sort of weakness in yourself, just lean into it.

00:42:26.420 And even if that weakness is, Oh man, look at all these cups. I don't want to clean that crap up.

00:42:31.900 If I leave it there, you know, my housekeeper or my wife or my sister-in-law will get it. No, 0.97

00:42:36.620 don't do that. Just do the hard thing. You know, that's what being a man is about.

00:42:40.420 Is leaning into weakness, even when that weakness is your own willpower or lack thereof.

00:42:45.620 Right on, man. That's powerful. How do we connect with you and learn more about what you're doing

00:42:48.660 and find out more? Sure. So you're listening to a podcast. You don't have to buy anything from me.

00:42:52.700 I'm not selling anything. In fact, just check out the Jordan Harbinger show. It's all about

00:42:57.180 mindsets and mental models. So we study the thoughts, the actions, the habits of brilliant people.

00:43:02.820 I ask them what I think are interesting questions and deliver their superpowers to the listener.

00:43:06.960 And the thing is, every episode has worksheets. So that's how big on practicals we are.

00:43:12.060 Every episode has worksheets. It's not just like, I feel so inspired right now. It's like,

00:43:16.620 no, here are things you can do that you can write down, that you can execute that are going to make

00:43:22.640 you better in some way immediately. Not like, Oh, if you keep listening to this under your pillow,

00:43:28.380 you'll wake up a different man after 10 years. That's not how this works for me.

00:43:31.640 Like it's all about action. And so that's what the Jordan Harbinger show is. So look,

00:43:36.000 take action and subscribe to the Jordan Harbinger show. And let me know what you think of it. You

00:43:39.220 know, if you think it stinks, I'm curious why, if you think it's great, that's less important,

00:43:44.100 but also very nice to hear. Right on, man. We'll link it all up for you. I got to tell you,

00:43:47.600 I appreciate you and our friendship over the past three years. You've always been helpful for me.

00:43:51.840 You've always gone out of your way to make introductions and help me succeed in this

00:43:55.580 business. And I'm honored to have the opportunity to help you in a small way too. So appreciate your

00:43:59.380 friendship, brother. Thanks for coming on the show. Likewise, man. I'm excited to read your book.

00:44:03.920 Gentlemen, there it is. My conversation with my good friend, Jordan Harbinger. I know that you

00:44:07.800 probably got as much value out of this conversation as I did. Like I said, before we even started,

00:44:13.780 always so much, so much information that he has to share. And I've appreciated his friendship.

00:44:19.280 And again, I wish it was under different circumstances, but it is very fascinating and very

00:44:24.280 enlightening to see him now use the skills that he's been teaching to other people in his own life

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Order of Man - March 13, 2018

156： Calling in Your Social Capital ｜ Jordan Harbinger

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