A Conversation with My Son | FRIDAY FIELD NOTES
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In this episode of the JUICY GUY Podcast, we sit down with one of our good friends and fellow jiu jitsu partner, Josh, to talk about our trip to the states, our plans for the future, and much more.
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You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.
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When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time. Every time.
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You are not easily deterred or defeated. Rugged. Resilient. Strong.
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This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become.
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At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.
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We've made a big move here in the past couple of weeks.
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You've been wanting to do this podcast for a while. You've been on my back about it for the last three or four days now.
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Hold me accountable to having this conversation.
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Why do you want to have the conversation so bad?
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So what do you like about podcasting? You think it sounds fun. What do you like about it?
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You like your jokes. You're actually pretty good at memorizing jokes.
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You cut a hole in the ice, and you take peas, and you set the peas around the hole, and then
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you go hide behind a snowbank. And when the polar bear comes over to take a pea, you kick
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It's funny. Probably the first dozen times you've heard it.
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So what do you want to talk about today, man? People are listening. They're excited about
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our conversation. What do you want to talk about?
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I don't know. I thought you had something in mind.
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No, you said we were going to talk about the trip.
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So we moved from Utah. What? Almost two weeks ago now is when we left.
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How are you feeling about the place we're at, just in general?
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Yeah, you did some training the other day, last week.
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So you haven't done much jiu-jitsu. You've done a little bit through some of our events.
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That you get to learn how to defend yourself in situations and to protect yourself. Yeah.
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Were you sore last week at all from working out, from training?
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On the trip, I like seeing the new states and sites and that stuff was fun.
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Do you remember like your favorite state or your favorite site?
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You don't think it looks like that because like we've never really done that stuff.
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It was a little sketchy going through there on the roads and everything else.
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As Arkansas, just very green and like there's farms everywhere you went and that stuff.
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Well, and it was nice to be able to see grandma and grandpa and then Austin and your cousins
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Um, I like, like it just has a cool history behind it and it's big.
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But it's got plenty of room where we can spread out.
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It's just a new place and you don't really know things.
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That's, that's not uncommon for people to think.
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Um, we just like, I got over it just like driving around.
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Checking out places and seeing where everything is.
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Plus you got a big A German Shepherd to help you out.
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Except for he hangs out more with Viv than he hangs out with you now.
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But now I see that he needs to protect her more.
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And then soon our other dog, Shiloh, won't have to sleep in her, uh, her crate anymore.
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You made a face like, oh, why'd you make that face?
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Well, that's the reason we put her in the crate.
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Cause she doesn't, if she was out outside of the crate, then she probably would poo and pee all over.
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But once she's in the crate, she doesn't do it in there.
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It was like, so dogs won't crap where they sleep.
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And I don't mean like literally, I don't mean literally crap where they sleep, but I mean,
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we as human beings have a tendency of like messing up our environment.
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It's like, why, why would you have a messed up house or a dirty office or a dirty car where
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you're actually doing your business, where you're conducting your business?
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Like I'm trying to think of, do you know what the opposite of figuratively literally means
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Like, so what's figuratively like woke up on the wrong side of the bed.
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That can be literally and figuratively could be either or.
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So figuratively is just like a figure of speech.
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I'm not saying that humans actually crap where they sleep, where they eat.
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I just mean that we have a tendency of having chaos in our lives where we're trying to conduct
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And it's always a good idea to like leave the crap somewhere else.
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I had to pull out my mom from the zero turn yesterday.
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Well, you weren't supposed to throw her under the bus, but that's okay.
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That's another thing that I think a lot of guys need to learn is like we're supposed to
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So, when you're not being productive, how do you think you feel?
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Like kind of bored and you don't have a place kind of.
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But when you're producing, whether it's taking the tractor out and get the zero turnout or
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doing a podcast like this or my work or exercising or at Jiu-Jitsu, you're producing.
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Like I'm not just somebody staying on a couch watching TV eating pizza and potato chips.
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Everybody can like different things, I suppose.
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Um, now that we've been here for two weeks, close to two weeks, I feel like I've seen stuff
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In Utah, I'd be in an intermediate school, but here I'm going to be in middle school.
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But it's not like that big of a difference, really.
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So the intermediate school was what, sixth and seventh?
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I think it was sixth and seventh, and then the middle school was eight and nine.
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And then the high school was ten through twelve.
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What are you looking forward to the most of being here?
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Like, I like hunting, so hunting will be good here.
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And I like wildlife, so I get to see a lot of wildlife here.
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I'm going to have to take you guys down there, because it was a cool little town.
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I just liked the buildings and the cobblestone streets, and like, it was fun where it's close
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to the coast, and like, people are having fun there, so it makes you in a better mood, and
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I mean, you like the haddock, but do you like other kind of fish?
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What do you think about the opportunities that we have to travel, just with my business
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Like, walk me through how you felt as we were contemplating the move and then as we got
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It's good and bad because I have friends in Hurricane.
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And then, like, it's good for your job because we can literally be anywhere with your job
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Internet was a little dicey for the first couple of days.
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That guy had to come out, what, two or three times?
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In Hurricane, like, it seems like nobody would wave to you here.
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What do you think about all the logging trucks that come by?
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And it's kind of cool, like, looking at their trailer with, like, the logs on them.
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Um, what do you think about mowing the lawn out here?
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I think you're going to have to fight mom for the opportunity to mow the lawn.
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I was thinking we could charge people to mow the lawn for us, just because of how fun it is.
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Enough people have lawns around here, they don't need to come mow ours.
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I haven't found one on me yet, but Otto had one.
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But, like, I'm scared to get one, so I'm, like, checking every day.
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Well, that's all you have to do, is just check, right?
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As long as you check and stay vigilant on top of it.
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Yeah, like, head on a swivel, that's what you always say to me.
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So if there's a problem or something that you recognize or something that needs to be addressed.
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So vigilance, proactive, those are important characteristics.
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Last year was your first year of tackle football.
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I just like being, like, active and, like, smashing people's heads.
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Because I was going to say, you could be active doing anything, but you like smashing people's heads.
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You want to be controlled, controlled violence and aggression, and then go take it out.
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Any crushes that you had to leave behind that you had to give any goodbye smooches to?
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There'll come a point in time where you actually like girls.
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Why were you even talking about it if you, hmm?
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Smooching, the birds and the bees, which I know is totally uncomfortable and awkward
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Even though, let's think about this for a second.
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Even though that kind of stuff is uncomfortable sometimes to talk about, do you think it's
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Yeah, because then you learn and when it comes to that time, you know what to do.
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It's good to, it's good to have that information ahead of time.
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Because sometimes when you get into a situation, let's say.
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Or, or let's say somebody says, do you want to smoke a cigarette?
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Well, if you, if you don't know what to do ahead of time, you might find yourself in a situation
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where you're peer pressured into it, where you like, you want to be part of the cool crowd.
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And so you let other people dictate your decisions.
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So that's why it's so important to arm yourself ahead of time.
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And before you get to that point, so that if you do find yourself in that situation and
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you probably will, somebody's probably going to ask you if you want to smoke, somebody's
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probably going to ask if you want to drink, or somebody's probably going to ask you to
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want to, if you want to look at, you know, pictures that, that are inappropriate, that
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you shouldn't be looking at, then you've already made the decision beforehand.
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We've had multiple, multiple conversations like that, huh?
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Do you know that it's uncomfortable for me just the same as it's uncomfortable for you?
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But I think a lot of guys, a lot of dads won't have those conversations with their son because
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And so rather than facing it and dealing with it anyways, what do they do?
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They just let it go and then their kids make a bad choice and they, they like, don't
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get another chance to fix that because they're, um, can't find the word, but like, just like
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kind of like a magnet, they're stuck to it now.
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I'm like, let's, so let's talk about bad decisions.
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You don't have to tell me what they are, but just have you made bad decisions?
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And so, yeah, I mean, there isn't a person who doesn't make a bad decision.
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So when you make a bad decision, what do you do?
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Because then there's more pressure on your back and it's harder to unfix, well, fix that.
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And you try to hide it and you try to put it off and you kind of, kind of try to avoid it.
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It's only going to get worse if you don't ever come clean and you keep trying to hide
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it or you dig yourself deeper into a hole by lying more and more.
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Like we've caught you in a couple of lies, right?
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And it gets worse rather than just, hey, here's what happened.
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The other thing about decisions is that not all of them are permanent.
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You know, that's one of the things a lot of people, a lot of people asked me when we moved
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or when we were contemplating moving out here, they would ask, well, why would you do that?
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And I thought, you know, this doesn't have to be a permanent thing.
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And if it doesn't work out, well, let's say if it, you've got to look at it from this
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And if it, if it, if it does work out, then what?
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So many cool opportunities and potential and growth.
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I wanted to find out if like what this would represent.
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I think it's cool that you can either go either way.
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It means that you have a choice to choose between two or more decisions.
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And how do you know which one is the right one?
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I mean, cause there's a lot to be said for intuition and feeling and gut instinct.
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But when you, let's say you have two choices, you personally have two choices or more, what
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What actually feels like, what, how, how do you, how do you know that feels right?
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Like between drinking or not, you shouldn't pick that because it's the right thing to
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And I'm not trying to like paint you into a corner or like prove you right or wrong.
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I'm, I'm genuinely trying to extract and know your thought process about how do you know
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Like, since we talked about that stuff, I kind of already know which path I want to
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go because we've already talked about that and I know the answer.
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Do you know there's, there's kids, boys and girls who don't have these types of conversations?
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Makes me feel sad because they don't have somebody to talk to when they have hard times.
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Do you think that our relationship between you and me as son and father, um, is hard
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Sometimes we don't, um, like agree on stuff and we fight, like argue a little bit.
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I just feel like usually sons and fathers do get in little knots, kind of, but then
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And it's okay that we don't have to agree on everything.
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What do you think about the role of fathers in general?
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Um, like, women can do this too, but it seems like it's more of a father's job to protect,
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I mean, I think women are capable of a lot of those things, but I think ultimately it
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is our responsibility is me, a man, and you soon to be a man, right?
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And we've had conversations about that too, right?
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Now you're transitioning more now that you're getting older, a young man, right?
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And then you're learning, you're in the apprentice stage, you're learning.
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And I think that's what's so important about not only fathers, but mentors and coaches and
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grandfathers and uncles and teachers is that when you're young, a lot of the times you think
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Like, you know the answer and it feels so right.
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And yet you have a very limited experience and perception than I do, right?
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When I was 11, I would have thought 38 was old.
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Well, yeah, but to you, because that's represents the majority of your, your life.
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Some years, they're like, bink, and they're done.
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Why do you want, why do you want time to speed up?
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I think what a lot of people do is they anticipate what's down the road, right?
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So, for example, I know a lot of people say, because they're miserable in their jobs, they'll say things like, oh, I can't wait for this weekend.
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And I understand what they're saying, but when they say that, at the same time, I think, what a crappy way to live.
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And that way, you're not having to wait for the weekend or for next year or next year.
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It's like when people say, oh, I can't wait for this day to be over.
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Do you think you have that much power to make it a good day?
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Like, you say, like when me and Eli get in fights, he's like, he says, like, you made me do it.
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I say, because you say it, you can't, people can't make you do something.
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If you react a certain way, it's not because somebody made, like, you didn't make me mad.
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Now, you may have done something that I responded to.
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What are things that you think I could work on as a father?
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But patience is definitely something I need to work on.
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One of my favorite movies right now is Blindside.
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And Michael, he closes his eyes and he counts to three.
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So, um, just like gives you a moment to calm down.
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So, so the space between the desk, for example, and the window, there's a gap there, right?
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Or if you think about the margins on a, on a computer, on a, on a piece of paper, like
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word, for example, you know what the margins are?
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Like from the edge of the paper to where the words start, that's the gap, right?
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So you have this margin on the paper, but you also have margin in your life.
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And so what a lot of guys will do is they'll stack up their day, right?
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So they've got this event, then this activity, then this appointment, they've got so much
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And they never give, like you said, the space to just reset or think about a new life or
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And so they just keep running the same patterns that they always have.
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I think that's right, that I should be because I'm the parent, but I also think it's good
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Because I said I need to work on patience, right?
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I kind of think I need to work on patience too.
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You're kind of what I would refer to as a mini me.
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It's probably not going to be as cool as mine though.
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Maybe when you get older it will change its color.
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So speaking of growing a beard and things changing, what things do you want to do in
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Whether what you want to do for work or where you want to live, or maybe there's some adventures
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What are some things that you've thought about maybe that you want to do in the future?
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I just like animals a lot, and there's a lot of cool animals there.
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Like, not exactly like that period, but they were far back ago, and I think that's cool.
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They're kind of like modern day dinosaurs, like an alligator and a crocodile.
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They were back when the dinosaurs were around, so they're modern day dinosaurs.
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So, evolution is that an organism, whether it's a human or...
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Can evolve, can adapt, can develop new traits and characteristics and skills and instincts
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So, you think about like anglerfish, for example.
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Maybe you told me this, Rose, in one of your books.
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Oh, it was that eye book we read about animals.
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I can't remember what animal it was, but there's light literally in the back of their eye.
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And it's like a flashlight because they're in the dark.
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Creation is that the universe and the animals and humans were created by God.
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So, we were created in the image of God and that this world was created.
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These are some of the big questions people have a lot of concerns and ideas and thoughts about.
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Well, we've been going for like, I don't know, 35, 40 minutes now.
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So, do you want to be a podcaster when you grow up?
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You used to say you wanted to be a cowboy animal doctor.
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I want to be a podcaster and like maybe go to college and get a veterinarian degree.
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So, that could be like, the podcasting would probably be like a side job.
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I could teach kids and adults about being a veterinarian.
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That's what's cool about social media is that we can do that kind of stuff.
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We can start YouTube channels and create movements and rally people around a thought or an idea,
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No, I like doing this stuff because we have these conversations every day.
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But I think it's also important to have these conversations in a platform like this because
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then other people, other fathers and sons who are hearing this might be inspired by what
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we're doing and have some of these conversations for themselves.
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I think the more conversations we can have with the people we care about, the better off we're
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Any parting words of wisdom for anybody who might be listening?
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Thank you for listening to the Order of Man podcast.
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