Addressing the Rot in America, Holding Others to High Standards, and the Lies We Tell Ourselves ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING
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Summary
In this episode of the Ask Me Anything podcast, I sit down with my good friend, Ryan Mickler, to answer some of your questions and talk about his journey to becoming a podcaster and what it's like being on three major podcasts at the same time.
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You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest, embrace your fears, and boldly chart
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your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.
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You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. This is your life. This is who
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you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done,
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you can call yourself a man. Kip, what's going on, man? Thanks for joining me on another Ask Me
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anything. It's good. It'll be fun. You mentioned this earlier. It'll be fun to shake things up and
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get some questions from your Instagram account. I didn't realize how many, do you normally get that
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many questions when you do posts? Yeah, I do. Yeah, it's quite a bit. Yeah, I didn't. I've only
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done those Ask Me Anything type things on Instagram a couple of times and both of them, you know, over
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like 200 comments. So it gets a little insane over there at times, which is good. I like it. You
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know, it's nice that people are engaged and I try to get to as many questions as I can, but yeah,
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I can't get to them all. So I thought this would be a great place to do it. Yeah. And what's great
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also is it removes the pressure from me to pronounce names correctly because these aren't even names.
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Oh, that's true. I didn't even think about that. Yes. I didn't even know how to. It was Ezra Kigi G.
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Well, you already, whatever that is. You already messed up right there on the first one because I'm
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sure that's not what it is. No, but I am Danny. I am Danny boy. Or maybe I have to spell these. I
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don't even know. Or do we just skip the names altogether or I'll give it a good run? It's like a,
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like a license plate where you're trying to like piece together a custom license plate,
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what it says. And it can say a thousand different things depending on where you place the breaks.
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Like some are right. Some are inappropriate. So you just make up your own, man. Just roll with it.
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Yeah. Yeah. I love it. All right. So let's get into it. Yeah. No worries. Yeah. So we've alluded to
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this already. Um, these questions will be filled in from Ryan Mickler's Instagram account to follow
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Ryan there. It's at Ryan Mickler. That's M I C H L E R. Correct. I'm assuming I don't need to spell
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Ryan for you guys since we're a little bit more educated crowd that listens to this podcast.
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Yeah. Well, I don't know. We'll, we'll, we'll determine that based on the questions that we
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answer today. Sounds good. All right. So our first question, here we go. Pop M Chris,
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how goes the hunt to have three major podcasters on and three major podcasts to be on?
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Uh, it goes, it's going good. You know, every, every day I send out invites and messages and I'm
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reaching out and trying to network and communicate with other people, uh, which is, you know, something
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I do fairly well at asking if people will make connections. So, uh, I've got probably, I would
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say like eight or nine, um, high caliber podcast guest requests at this point. And another three to
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five where I've requested to go on other shows. Sometimes it takes a while, you know, sometimes I get a
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no or a no response. And so I try to flank them and work a different angle and make a connection
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and ask somebody else to introduce me. Uh, so it just takes time. You know, we've got like Jordan
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Peterson is in queue, not in queue, but in that lineup. Um, Dan Crenshaw, somebody I reached out
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to Ross Edgley is another individual. I just reached out to, uh, Mark Manson, another individual I reached
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out to, uh, Mike Rowe has turned me down four or five times, but that won't deter me. So
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welcome to the life of a podcaster. Yeah. I don't take any of that personal. Like I get it. People
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reach out to me all the time for, to, to be on their podcast. And I say yes to about 80% of them
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and 20% I, for whatever reason, I, you know, I'm, I'm busy or, or maybe my message, I don't feel like
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will resonate with their audience. And so I turn those down, but, uh, yeah, I don't take it personally.
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It's just people are busy and have to make choices on what podcast to, to join them, which one's not too.
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Totally. Well, and, and I don't know about you, but I have people reach out to me all the time
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and I overlook it like, and it's not even intentional or it's not intended to be a no,
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it's just busy or misunderstood who the individual was or something else. I think a perfect example of
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that is, uh, as you know, I reached out to JP Danell and I'm texting him like, Hey JP, let's,
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let's meet tomorrow. And he like, Oh yeah, yeah. Let's meet. And then he goes dark. And then again,
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I'm like, so are we, you know, are we going to meet or what's going on? And then, Oh yeah,
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yeah. And then he goes dark. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, this guy's like blowing me off. And then
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eventually he's like, dude, I had your number mixed up with someone else's number. I thought it was like
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some spamming person. I'm so sorry. Yeah. I'm like, yeah. But the average person probably would have
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already like, Hey, Oh, run some story about how this guy doesn't care and whatever. And I would
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have stopped reaching out because I assumed that he was blowing me off when we're out of this
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misunderstanding. So, well, it's funny because I used to make up those stories and they always
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went negative. Like, Oh, he's blowing me off. He doesn't care about what we're doing. And I always
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went negative. And then somewhere along the way it clicked that I'm just, I'm lying, right? I'm,
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I'm making up a story with faulty assumptions. So if I'm going to make up a story, like why not just
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make a positive one? Yeah. You know, like he really wants to be on the podcast. He just lost
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my number. Like that, that could be just as true as he hates me as a human being. So like,
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if you're going to make up a story, just make up one that serves you, not one that hinders you.
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Yeah. I love that. That's a really good point. That's great. All right. Come back. Gray beard.
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I know. I read this question. I thought we should probably Google it.
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I would say George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt.
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Chris edge, Chris edge official tips on creating a tribe while under self-isolation and travel
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I mean, we're doing it here. You know, you've got zoom and you've got Facebook groups and you've got
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Google hangouts and all kinds of chat options and digital technology. So what I would do,
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especially if you're trying to build a tribe with other men is to rally around some sort of common
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purpose or even better in a lot of cases is a common enemy. And that enemy might be the spare tire
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that's around your belly. It might be, I don't know, a sports team that you guys all despise,
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but you really like this other team better. And so you talk about that. I don't know. Or
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whatever, you know, maybe there's a physical challenge or reading books or whatever, but it
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needs to be centered around having some sort of challenge built into it and a reason to actually
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meet. Cause in my experience, dudes just, they don't want to hang out and chat about their feelings
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or whatever. Now you can work some of that in and you probably ought to do that, but it has to be
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centered around something more meaningful and significant than, Hey, let's discuss how we feel
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about the Corona virus. Like nobody wants to do that. Men don't want to do that. Women may be more
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so generally, but men certainly don't. This is why churches have such a difficult time because
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we're supposed to sit around and like hold each other's hands and like talk about our feelings and
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sing Kumbaya. And I'm like, I don't want to do that. So you have to get some element of challenge,
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uh, some element of even confrontation, not, not in a negative way, but in a healthy way.
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Yeah. Uh, and then some element of, of struggle and, and pain, maybe even a little bit to overcome
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and to work together and to work through. I think that's a much more valuable way to do it for men.
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So yeah, just use some digital technology, get some guys together and just say, Hey,
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we're going to meet. Here's another thing. Another tip I'd give you is just pick a time
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and then schedule it and make that work. Like don't ask, Hey, when do you guys want to hang
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out? And like, what works best for you guys? Like that's a passive way of doing it. And it's not
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going to work because there isn't one time that works great for everybody. And everybody's kind of
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dancing around, hoping somebody else will finally take, take charge. You need to take charge
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and then realize that if you say, okay, well, we're going to meet every Wednesday night at seven
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o'clock. And, uh, here's the link. Realize that the first time you do it, it might be you by yourself
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or you and one other guy. But if you maintain consistency, that's very, very important.
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Whether you're trying to start a tribe for a business endeavor, like maybe we're doing here
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with order of man or just personal reasons, you have to maintain consistency. An example of that
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is years ago, uh, me and a neighbor of mine wanted to play basketball like on Tuesday or Wednesday
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night at the church. And so him and I went, we'd have like two guys. Sometimes we'd have four guys
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show up. And it was like that for weeks, five or six weeks. And then all of a sudden we had six guys
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show up and eight guys show up. And then before we ended up shutting it down and switching nights,
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we'd have like 25 dudes show up consistently. So like nobody could play. So we actually left,
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they kept doing it, I think for a while. And we started another one, but it, it, it takes that
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level of consistency to be able to build it up because people need to know you're serious and
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they don't, it's not that they don't trust you individually. They just don't trust people in
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general because most people fall short of what it is they say they want to do. And so the trust comes
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into play because they think it's, it's going to die out anyway. So why? What a waste of time.
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And, and like who wants to, who wants to be part of an organization or a group while they're working
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the kinks out? Nobody does. They want to be part of a winning organization that has a proven track
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record of success. So you actually need to prove that. And you know, you're going to have early
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adopters and you're going to have friends who come, uh, but in order to grow it to the level that
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you're wanting to, it just takes just a diehard consistency towards doing that thing and letting
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it ride. Yeah. Cool. All right. GWU wrestling favorite nonfiction fiction. Wait, favorite what?
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Uh, I'm assuming a book or maybe a movie. Uh, favorite nonfiction or fiction. Oh, I just thought
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you said favorite nonfiction fiction. I'm like, I don't know what that is, but I didn't pause. Oh,
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okay. I'm like, what is a nonfiction fiction? Um, favorite nonfiction, man. There's so many wild
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at heart sticks out like that's something really, really good. It was, that was life altering for me.
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Wild at heart by John Eldridge man's search for meaning by Viktor Frankl. Yeah. Sovereignty by Ryan
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Mickler. That one might be a little biased. Um, as a man thinketh by James Allen extreme ownership
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by Jocko Willink atomic habits by James clear. I don't know. Just go through the podcast. There's
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so many, but there's five, uh, fiction. Well, I'm reading savage son by Jack Carr right now. My podcast
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with him comes out next week. So that that's that series. If you aren't reading the, the James re series,
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like read it. It's all by Jack Carr, terminalist, true believer. And then this third installment,
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which is savage son. Um, I'm also reading the road by, uh, uh, Cormac McCarthy. I can't,
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I can't think, I couldn't think of his name. Um, that's probably not a great one to read right now
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because it's about this like apocalypse and this dad's trying to survive with his son. So like,
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I don't know that that's like the best read right now, but it's actually very, very fascinating.
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That's called the road. I think I said that, uh, I don't read a whole lot of fiction,
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but those are, those are a couple. The book that we're reading, um, was the too soon old,
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too late smart. That's really good book. I don't know why, but it's like, I am so drawn to that
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book. I'm like, I'm already buying like the hard copy because the audio I'm like, and I'm going to
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read, listen to audio probably a handful of times. And it's really insightful.
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Yeah. There are so many great books out there. It's hard to like, just pick a couple, but yeah,
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just, there's a lot of them. All right. Caesar Muir. What is that one up? I know.
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What is a virtue that a man needs to possess? Pronouncing names.
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Yes. Uh, man, there's a lot strength, fortitude, grit, resiliency, uh, resolve.
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Talking about books. Sovereignty has a, a good explanation of all of those.
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Yeah. Um, yeah, I'm, I'm trying to think like his, uh, an ability to communicate effectively.
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It's actually one that a lot of people overlook. He needs to be a great communicator. If you're
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going to lead, you got to be able to communicate effectively. Yeah. Uh, patience is something a lot
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of people overlook. You know, there's a lot of things that don't happen the way that you would
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like them to happen or on your timeline. Certainly true for me. Uh, so just exercising what Andy
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Frisilla would call, uh, I think he calls it, uh, aggressive patience where you're being patient,
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but you're still working towards the thing. It's not idle. It's not passive. It's still active and
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engaged, but you're being patient in the result that it will produce, man. There's just so many
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virtues that you need to possess. Uh, but I, I think those are the ones that come to the top of,
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of my mind. Fortitude. Generally, when you think of men, you think of fortitude, grit, strength,
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resilience. Those are what we would consider masculine virtues, not exclusive to men, but
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masculine virtues. And then you have the feminine virtues, not to diminish them by any means, but
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love, kindness, empathy, uh, nurturing. Those are the feminine virtues, which I think men ought to
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possess to some degree as well. You know, we can exhibit those characteristics and not be thought of
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as a woman or less manly. I think we should possess all of those things. Okay. Kyle Renard with the
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tricky dynamics of a nuclear family, how would you suggest that a 20 something son on his own journey
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towards being a man, encourage older males in his family to pursue the same things in their lives?
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Why should they pursue the same things? I mean, you're, you're 20 years old. Uh, they're older
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than you. I don't know if this is your father or your siblings or your mother. I don't know, but
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they, they shouldn't necessarily follow the same things that you're following. Now there's some
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general things like being a good human being, trying to make yourself more capable, developing a
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new skillset, things that we would generally consider worthwhile objectives, regardless of the
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specific specificity of your, of your goals and objectives. Um, but you know, lead by example,
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uh, connect the dots, show them how, what you are doing is actually yielding and producing the
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desired result for you and how it might produce the result for them. Uh, be empathetic, you know,
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just listen to them. What is it that they're trying to accomplish? And if you listen, they're,
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they're probably going to be more likely to listen to you and to be open and receptive to what it is
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that you might have to share. Uh, but generally people flock to those who are successful and they
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don't necessarily flock to those who aren't. So if you're producing some metric of success,
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it's been my experience that people will flock to you and try to figure out how you're producing
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that result in your life. And that's a great opportunity for you to shine. It's a great
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opportunity for you to educate and lead and motivate and inspire. Uh, but a lot of the times they'll come
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to you when you exude that level of confidence, uh, confidence that, that has been earned.
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I I've said this before in past podcasts and on social media that I had a mentor, one of my
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original mentors said to me, Ryan, you'll be successful when you learn to light yourself on
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fire and allow others to watch you burn. I was like, what in the world does that mean? You know,
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but I know now it's like light yourself on fire, like find something that's, that's driving you.
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That's motivating you, that you're passionate and excited about it and let
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other people experience it and be influenced by it. The hard part though, is that if you think
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about fire, obviously this is a metaphor, but if you think about it literally and metaphorically,
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it's painful, right? Fire is painful. You get burned. It hurts. And you have to be able to endure
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that to be able to, uh, to shine for other people. Same thing metaphorically, you know,
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I get mocked and ridiculed and people say some crazy and strange things and dismiss what I'm doing.
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And everything else under the sun that you could possibly imagine, but that, and that's the pain,
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right? That's the sacrifice. And that's what it's required to be an example to those who would be
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influenced by what it is you're doing. So lead by example and connect the dots for people.
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I found peace as I get older, not caring about, not influencing. It's not necessarily that,
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but trying to convince people to see my point of view and being content with where I'm at and how
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I feel about things. I'm assuming Ryan, that helps you be ridiculed. That allows you to do what you're
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doing and not be so tied up in the disapproval of the sum. Well, here's, here's how I look at it.
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So a lot of people say, Oh man, you're, you, you have to develop thick skin in order to do what you do.
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No, you don't. You just need to be indifferent. Right. Because like be okay with people seeing
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it differently. Yeah. Because look, if I'm indifferent to somebody's opinion, then it
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doesn't hurt. And I don't need to have any sort of thick skin in order to endure it. I'm indifferent.
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I could care less. Yeah. Could not care less. I should say. Right. So, um, yeah, that's, that's what
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I've been able to do. Like I look at somebody's results in their life and if they're not producing
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favorable results or results that I'm after, then I'm indifferent to what they have to say.
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They don't know me. They don't understand anything about my life. They're not producing what it is
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I'm after. Uh, so what, what does anything good or bad that they could have to say affect or impact
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me? That's why I always also try to take compliments with a grain of salt. I don't feel like
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you can take criticism with a grain of salt and not take compliments with a grain of salt.
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Like I try not to read too deeply into compliments either, which is kind of counterintuitive. But
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look, if I'm not going to read deeply into criticism, then I shouldn't be able to read
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too deeply into compliments. Like you can't have both. You either need to be indifferent to both of
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them or somewhere on the scale with both of them. But I think you really ought to take both with a grain
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of salt. If you start to believe that everything that somebody says good about you is right
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And when they say something bad, yeah. When they say something bad about you, then
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Now, now if somebody pays me a compliment that I, that I believe is genuine, that I actually believe
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about myself, then okay. Yeah. Thank you. And if somebody has a criticism for me and they do it
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respectfully and it's something that I'm aware of or something I ought to be aware of, then I can say,
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thank you for exposing that and letting, letting me know. I don't always handle that the best. Cause
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like us all, we, you know, I have an ego and you know, I got to be careful of that, but yeah.
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Cool. Ryan Landis, favorite novel. Is that the same book that you're mentioning earlier or
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where, where'd you have a favorite novel? Favorite novel.
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Yeah. Again, like when I think of novel, I think of like fictional work and I just don't read,
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I don't read a whole lot of fiction. I mean, the only one I remember even from when I was growing
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up was like old man in the sea, uh, like Jack London stuff. I had to read. Yeah. Choose your
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own adventures. Yeah. Jack London stuff was always fascinating and intriguing to me. So yeah, I don't
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have a favorite novel, but I gave some earlier. So I think we're good there.
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All right. Joshua Brood, where did this version of restore masculinity come from? And what was the
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first step you took to make this vision a reality? It doesn't come from just one place. I'm assuming
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when he talks about the version of restore masculinity, I'm assuming maybe he's talking
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about protect, provide, preside, I think is maybe what he's alluding to or what it means to be a man,
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at least my interpretation of it. Well, where did this vision to restore masculinity come from?
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Sorry. I may have said version. Oh, vision of it. Okay. Yeah. So the vision for order of man,
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I guess is what he's asking. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. No, it's good. Uh, man, I, I,
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it wasn't like a grand epiphany. It wasn't like one day I woke up because I had this dream and the
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angels came and spoke to me and told me what I should be doing or anything like that. Like
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it was just, Hey, you know, you should start a podcast and interview men so you can learn and grow
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and be better because you have conversations with them. Oh, and long into that. Did it,
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did it come about restoring masculinity? Cause I'm assuming the podcast originally was kind of like,
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Hey, resources help men become better men. You know, was there a point where it's like, Whoa,
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to become better men, a lot of this has to do with restoring masculinity back to the way it was
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necessarily just helping men as a good resource. Yeah. I mean that, that doesn't happen again in one
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swift move. It just evolves and grows and expands over time. And I spend a lot of time thinking
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about it. It's influenced by books. Like I just mentioned, one is wild at heart and others.
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Uh, and then I read things and I see things and there's other men that I'm influenced and inspired
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by, but you can't solve a problem that people don't know exists or, or doesn't exist. Like I,
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I think some people make up problems too. And I, I try not to make up problems. Uh, but I,
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I realized that if I wanted to inspire men to, to be motivated and educated and learn what it is
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we're doing, then I have to begin to identify, is there even a problem? And I saw this because I was
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having conversations with hundreds of men who were dealing with some very similar issues and they
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generally fall into two, three, four, five different camps. And you begin to see pretty quickly
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the, the lack of, of masculine role models, uh, the dismissal and mockery of masculinity in society
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and the undermining of it. Uh, the negative ramifications that come when, uh, men aren't
00:22:25.920
stepping up the way they ought to be stepping up. Yeah. I see that so often. And I spent a lot of
00:22:31.480
time in contemplation and reflection. I just pulled something up here that I was working on today.
00:22:36.280
And I'm just, just kind of overviewing, like why we're doing what we're doing and what is our
00:22:41.060
mission statement. And I'll read a little bit of this to you. It's very, very rough. Like,
00:22:46.820
cause I was just thinking about it this morning and just, I do this all the time, but here it is
00:22:51.800
very simply. Our mission is to enlist, train and inspire an army of moral and capable fathers,
00:22:56.440
husbands, business owners, community leaders, men. Uh, our mission is accomplished by equipping
00:23:01.160
men with the tools, resources, conversations, and accountability required to thrive on the personal
00:23:05.620
and professional front. Uh, the men who band with us are committed to improving themselves so that
00:23:10.280
they may more adequately be able to serve those under their care. They are well-rounded in their
00:23:14.520
approach to the mantle of masculinity and focus equally on their mental, emotional, physical,
00:23:18.760
and spiritual health. Uh, and then just some sub notes here is believing that being a man is a
00:23:24.080
calling. They strive to answer going through code of conduct. Another segment in this document I'm
00:23:29.400
writing right now is why does any of this matter? The problems that we address, who exactly we serve,
00:23:36.060
where we serve them, how we serve them. So these are things that I'm very, very deliberate and
00:23:41.180
intentional about that. I spend a lot of time in reflection and that I'm influenced by in every
00:23:46.120
way, every single day of my life through the books that I'm reading. I'm looking at it through the
00:23:49.980
lens. I'm looking at life through the lens of the work that we do. So when I'm driving down the road
00:23:56.000
and I see a billboard, it's seen through the lens of helping men be the men they're capable of becoming
00:24:03.480
right. When I'm reading a book, even if it's a fictional work, I'm looking at it through the lens of
00:24:08.100
how does this apply to making me a better man? Just because it's something I've poured everything
00:24:13.400
into. So I look at, look at it through that lens and it's not a surprise that I find the answers
00:24:17.740
I'm looking for. Yeah. Yeah. I can't, you can't help but think the importance of a vision, something
00:24:24.040
that it's related to the document you just read that was clear on my mind. Literally just yesterday,
00:24:29.040
I was thinking about this as, you know, why is that so important? You know, when we do our battle
00:24:33.900
plans, why is vision so critical to establishing goals and living a productive life? And I, and I
00:24:41.540
think at the root of it is, and it comes back from that, that book that we're, that we're reading this
00:24:47.300
month about, he mentions in that book at one point that to find happiness, one must have a sense of
00:24:54.300
belonging, purpose, and something to look forward to. Hmm.
00:24:58.860
And, and I think that we create that, right? You've created that in the order of man, uh, and
00:25:05.820
in an iron council where maybe men that, that didn't have their purpose defined, we're able to
00:25:12.540
come together and to find it and create it, not just find it. I, and I shouldn't even use that word,
00:25:17.340
create that purpose, um, and have something to look forward to and have a mission. Um, and it's just so
00:25:24.280
powerful when we are able to define who and how we show up in life.
00:25:31.240
Yeah, I agree. You know, I'm, I'm just writing some notes down here, but, uh, we were talking about
00:25:36.640
the use of the word, uh, find, and I definitely like create better than find, but I like the word
00:25:44.200
articulate even more than create. Cause create almost says like, I'm just going to take it out of
00:25:49.680
thin air and like create this thing. And how do you, right. And, and I, and I'm not like, I get it,
00:25:55.600
you know, I think we're on the same page, but the reason I like articulate, or maybe there's even a
00:25:59.160
better word is because to me, it invokes thoughts of, uh, a, a sculptor, an amazing sculptor. Who's
00:26:06.580
like working on this block of granite. I think it was Michelangelo who said, uh, I, I didn't create
00:26:12.640
David or whatever. Like he was already there. It was my job to chisel the stone away, to reveal him
00:26:17.920
something along those lines. And that's what I feel like I'm doing on myself personally, even
00:26:24.160
like physically, for example, you know, it was like, it's not about creation. It's about the
00:26:29.440
pinnacle of masculinity that I personally can reach. And then how do I put pressure and stress
00:26:36.740
on myself and, and challenge in a way that reveals who I'm meant to be, who I'm capable of becoming.
00:26:45.260
It's already there. We just have to strip things away, refine mold craft, and then reveal who it is
00:26:52.320
that we have the power to be. I like that because that plays into the concept of, of you having a
00:26:58.560
divine nature and works really well with those that are religious in regards to creation versus
00:27:04.640
articulating, because it's kind of respect to our creator that, you know, we didn't just create
00:27:10.520
ourselves. Right. Well, look, and to play the opposite side of that, and I'm religious, but
00:27:16.320
let's, let's say somebody's listening. Who's not, I still think there's value in doing it that way
00:27:21.700
because it gives us some sort of noble target to hit. Like I could, for example, I believe that you
00:27:27.620
can be an atheist and still be a good human being and still have moral, a moral compass and still have
00:27:33.860
goals and desires and ambitions. You know, I believe that. So even if you're not religious or
00:27:39.100
spiritual in any nature, you, you still have objectives. And now you see this person, this man
00:27:46.480
that you're striving to become, and you're chipping everything away and you're refining and you're
00:27:50.240
molding and you're shaping. I don't, I don't necessarily think that as an exclusive to spirituality,
00:27:56.440
it's just ambitious thought, you know? So it works from both ways, I think. Yeah. And as a level of
00:28:02.620
ownership to it, which I, of course we enjoy here for sure. Well, and then also I think you can look
00:28:09.140
at, and this has been helpful for me. I think most people know the metaphor of two wolves, you know,
00:28:14.200
you have the evil wolf and the good wolf inside of you. And then which one wins the one you feed,
00:28:18.660
right? We've all heard stories like that. Well, the same thing is true with the man that we have a
00:28:24.560
capability of becoming and the man that we currently are. Like I'm not at the pinnacle of my
00:28:28.340
achievement, right? So when I'm about to engage in an activity, whatever that activity may be,
00:28:33.880
I need to ask myself, what would the ideal version of myself do? This is called conscious thought.
00:28:39.080
We can project ourselves out and do a future date. One that does not exist yet. And look at what that
00:28:44.580
individual would do. And then come back into reality and say, Oh, okay. That person would make this
00:28:50.020
decision. And then you make this decision. And then you start working towards that ideal version you have
00:28:54.380
of yourself. It's just reverse engineering. Yeah. Love it. Can you hear my chair squeaking by the
00:29:01.840
way? Like my chair is really squeaking here. I need to tighten that thing up. I'm animated, man. I got
00:29:07.760
to move. And so like, you know, I got to tighten that thing up today. Uh, all right. Uh,
00:29:15.880
A and 85, uh, do you and the family have a favorite television show that you are watching?
00:29:21.540
No. No. All right. I can't. I don't. Nothing. No. Um, no, my kids watch a show called kicking it.
00:29:35.360
And so they watch that and they watch, uh, Oh, you, okay. I'll take this back. There is one
00:29:42.780
actually right now that we like, uh, it's a Lego masters. Lego masters. Yeah. It's a people making
00:29:50.120
Legos. It is. It's a competition. There's like nine teams or whatever, and they all compete. And
00:29:54.560
I think the guy's name is Will Arnett. He's Batman and, uh, on the Lego movie. Yeah. Anyways,
00:30:01.200
he's the host of it. And so, yeah, we love that show. Lego masters. It's awesome.
00:30:06.460
You and Legos, man. I love it, man. We all love it. I got the Batmobile sitting right there.
00:30:10.700
I saw that 1989 Batmobile. I got it for my birthday a couple of days ago, 3,300 pieces.
00:30:18.060
And it is amazing. I stayed up till two o'clock the other night fixing it. I was just building it.
00:30:24.000
And my wife's like, Hey, like, I'm going to go get ready for bed. I'm like, cool. Yeah. Just come
00:30:27.300
down when you're ready. And I kept building. And she's like, Hey, I'm going to go read. I'm like,
00:30:30.880
yeah, cool. I'll be up there in a minute. And then she comes down. She's like, Hey,
00:30:33.440
I'm going to go to bed. I'm like, Oh yeah, I'll be there really shortly. And then I finish it.
00:30:36.500
And I'm like, Oh, it's two o'clock. Holy cow. She comes down. I'm going to the grocery store.
00:30:43.780
That's right. You call me up. You're like, Hey, I'm on the zoom meeting. Like,
00:30:47.640
are you going to join me for the recording today? You're like five more blocks. Just give me five
00:30:51.840
more blocks. I'm almost done. So that's our favorite show right now. Duke cannons. Can America be
00:30:57.740
saved from the rot that's deep within our government? Uh, not in its current form.
00:31:06.360
No, I didn't always used to believe that. I'm like, no, there's still good people and we can
00:31:10.440
save this. And I believe that that's the case. There are good people and we can save this country,
00:31:15.960
but I don't believe in its current form that we can. It's, it's a, it's a very scary thing to
00:31:23.320
actually consider and think about, but the politicians that, uh, that we've elected,
00:31:27.880
that we continue to elect there continue is key. Yeah. They're, they're grasp for power and their
00:31:33.920
greed and corruption and just filthy. I don't even know how to describe it. It's just,
00:31:41.820
it's horrendous, horrendous behavior. And I think there are a few who do value, uh,
00:31:48.740
the American way of life who are working to try to reclaim and restore a lot of that. Uh, but
00:31:55.260
it's also indicative of who we are as a society, which is the sad reflection of us. That's exactly
00:32:01.500
what it is. Most people don't care about politics. Most people are greedy and power hungry themselves.
00:32:11.720
Uh, most people would gladly step on others in order to prop themselves up. They'll lie. They'll
00:32:19.380
cheat. They'll steal. Look, we all have the capacity for doing those things, but the idea is that you
00:32:26.440
work against that, right? That you work against the natural man, that you strive to overcome the lesser,
00:32:33.900
weaker, more pathetic version of yourself. Like we were talking about earlier and reveal the person you
00:32:39.940
have an opportunity to become, but most people aren't about that. They're victims. They like to
00:32:45.660
be victims because they get the attention. They focus on, uh, behaviors and activities and vices
00:32:54.680
that don't serve them and put other people down. And so we get exactly what we deserve, unfortunately,
00:33:00.460
and we're going to reap the benefits of this and the consequences, I should say, not benefits,
00:33:05.200
the consequences of this. And it's a very sad time in, in the country right now. So, you know,
00:33:12.200
rather than focusing on that, like, what do we do to fix it? Everything that I've been talking about
00:33:16.180
for five years, it's, it's ourselves, right? It's ourselves as men. We fix ourselves. We correct
00:33:23.580
our behavior. We start to live by a moral compass. We attempt as best we can to bridge the gap between
00:33:30.500
what we know we should be doing and what we're actually doing. We live with honor and class and
00:33:35.260
integrity. We strive to serve other individuals. Uh, we light ourselves on fire to our reference
00:33:40.400
earlier and allow others to be influenced by what it is we're doing. Uh, and then we demand
00:33:45.880
accountability and excellence from the people that we have chosen to represent us. And if they can't do
00:33:53.700
that, then we oust those individuals and we pick new representatives who are better and, uh, represent
00:34:00.660
representatives of, of who we are and what we believe. Uh, but you can't do that if you're not
00:34:06.020
willing to fix yourself and start working on yourself. I'm actually in the process of writing,
00:34:09.680
uh, the outline and part of my next book, which we'll talk a lot about that and how we restore
00:34:17.600
ourselves, restore honor and class and dignity and respect into society. And then ultimately take
00:34:24.280
charge of our own lives and our families and communities and everybody that we, we want to
00:34:28.200
help. And I think at the root of that is stop lowering our standards, our expectations on things.
00:34:34.940
It's funny how you use the word politics, how often we associate a line is, well, that's just politics.
00:34:41.980
Like that's acceptable, right? Oh, it's just politics or it's just news. It's just marketing.
00:34:47.320
Okay. So it's now okay to be dishonest. Like, no, that's not acceptable. Right. It shouldn't be
00:34:53.580
acceptable in our homes. It shouldn't be acceptable with the circle of men in which we,
00:34:57.580
we rub shoulders with it. Shouldn't it be acceptable in politics? It shouldn't be
00:35:01.320
acceptable in our work. Period. Which means that you're going to need to step up
00:35:05.960
because those who are, aren't doing a good job. So you're going to need to step up.
00:35:10.940
You know, it was interesting. You used the word rot. I was standing on my deck here, uh, just a couple
00:35:15.480
of days ago and all the snow is melted and all that's left is wood that is unfinished, right?
00:35:23.140
There's, there's no, there's no nothing on it at all. It's all been stripped away and worn away from
00:35:27.380
the weather. And on certain ends of the two by sixes that, that make up the deck, it's all rotted
00:35:32.200
where the screws are. Well, how do you fix the deck? Do you just like paint over the rot? So some
00:35:38.980
people actually might, but that's not actually how you do it. Not ideal. Right. You actually take
00:35:44.800
those planks and you rip them out and you destroy them. You burn them, you get rid of them, right?
00:35:51.280
You let them go back to where they came from and then you put new planks in. And then only then do
00:35:58.120
you finish the deck once all the old planks have been fixed and ripped out and new ones have replaced
00:36:03.800
those things. Then do you finish it up? Cause right now we're trying to like finish things.
00:36:08.200
And at it's at our core foundation, the rot is there and it's prevalent. And unless we strip away
00:36:13.080
that rot, no amount of finish is actually going to make this thing any better. It might disguise it.
00:36:17.680
It might mask it for a little while, but if you start looking up close, you know, it's going to be
00:36:21.960
there. And then what happens is somebody's walk, one of my kids is walking on that deck one day.
00:36:26.060
And because I didn't address the rot, it cracks, breaks, they fall through and end up hurting
00:36:29.660
themselves. Like that's what we're experiencing right now. We need to rip away that rot
00:36:33.620
and replace it with something that's good and strong and has integrity.
00:36:37.760
That's, that's, and then we can finish it. Then we can worry about the other little details.
00:36:41.860
And I think as, as I evaluate my life and I'm sure a lot of us just look at how we do things
00:36:47.480
far too often, we're painting that deck far too often. We're shoving it smoke and mirrors,
00:36:53.880
right? We're, we're acting like we have our shit together. We're, you know, doing a half-assed job.
00:36:59.460
We're not really truly having integrity in regards to how we do things, right?
00:37:03.960
You know, it's, it's the classic, you know, you evaluate the, the typical corporate America
00:37:08.960
and how many productive hours an employee actually works, right?
00:37:17.280
We have, we have lowered our standards. Well, and we've looked, look, here's the other thing
00:37:22.420
is we accept that lower standard in others because we aren't willing to call them out because we know
00:37:30.400
we might expose ourselves and we might get called out. Right. And that's the problem. Every look,
00:37:36.340
every successful individual that I know, and I've met some very, very successful individuals over
00:37:41.220
the past five years. One that stands out to me right off the bat is Andy Frisilla. Andy, Andy's grown
00:37:48.440
to be a friend, but even outside of that friendship, he's somebody that holds people to task. Like he
00:37:55.360
holds them to a very, very high standard. That's intimidating to a lot of people, but it's actually
00:38:00.580
good to a lot of other people who want to grow and expand. But when I met Andy, he wasn't roughly
00:38:06.820
four years ago. He wasn't the same individual that he is today. And he knew it. And he knew that he was
00:38:13.240
out of integrity. And when I first met him, we talked a lot about how he's going to improve and
00:38:18.620
get his fitness in check. And like he's, he runs a fitness organization and he's overweight and like
00:38:22.980
it's out of integrity. And he's completely reinvented himself over a period of four years,
00:38:29.420
which gives him the authority and credibility to talk to other people like that.
00:38:33.360
Yeah. You can't talk to people and ask them to do something that you're not doing yourself. You
00:38:38.380
can fool them for a little while, especially if you're good manipulative, you can fool them for
00:38:42.380
a little while, but, but that's not sustainable. If you want to hold people to a high standard,
00:38:47.760
like, let me say it this way. You cannot hold people to a higher standard than you hold yourself
00:38:53.120
to. It's just not possible. So if you want the best out of your children, you better be giving the
00:38:59.360
best. If you want the best out of your wife, you better be giving the best. You want the best out of
00:39:02.540
your employees and clients and everybody else that you interact with. Just understand it can only go
00:39:07.480
as high as the standard you hold yourself to. Yeah. Yeah. And it's very easy to reflect in our
00:39:13.860
lives and see how that correlates. Well, it's, it's, yes, it's easy to see if you're willing to look at
00:39:22.020
it. Most people aren't willing to look at it. Yeah. Hmm. All right. William, that tips you have for
00:39:29.320
newlywed couple in terms of saving for housing kids and becoming financially stable.
00:39:36.580
Do it. Save one, one little tip I would suggest, cause I'm assuming you're renting right now
00:39:41.500
is let's say, and I'm just going to throw out some arbitrary numbers here. Let's just say your rent
00:39:46.700
is a thousand dollars a month. I know if you're in California, you're like, what, where do I live?
00:39:51.880
A tent out on the, under the highway. Yeah. That's where you do live. If you live in, if you live in
00:39:58.020
Maine, then you're like, oh, that's a nice little place that you got there. Right. So let's just say
00:40:03.960
that that's the number. All right. You guys get it. That's a thousand a month. Now you, now you go look
00:40:09.180
and you say, okay, well, we're going to, we're going to buy a 200 or a 300 or a $400,000 house,
00:40:13.800
whatever. It depends on where you live and your financial situation. And let's say that your mortgage
00:40:18.520
is going to be $1,800. And when I say mortgage, I'm talking about principal, interest, taxes,
00:40:24.260
and insurance, all of it, all of it, not just principal and interest, principal, interest,
00:40:28.640
taxes, insurance, 1800 bucks. Okay. So there's an eight, $800 discrepancy per month. So that means
00:40:35.700
that you need to save in a side fund, $800 every month. It needs to be put into a side fund that you
00:40:42.600
don't access. And I can't tell you how often I've heard people say, oh, well, we can't do that.
00:40:47.200
Well, what the hell makes you think you can buy a house then? You shouldn't buy the house. Yeah.
00:40:52.140
You can't afford the house. Like if you can't afford the difference right now and put it in a
00:40:56.060
separate fund, then you can't afford the house. Don't be a moron. It's not difficult. It's math.
00:41:02.860
There is no emotion in math. It's numbers. It's little squiggly lines that mean something. And,
00:41:09.760
and, and it's not based on emotion. And yet when we start talking about this little green piece of
00:41:14.140
paper called money, we all get emotional and do some real stupid things. So do a little research.
00:41:20.220
What are the average price points that you're looking at for your house? Then get on a mortgage
00:41:25.600
calculator. I think bank rate has a good one. I mean, there's just Google it. You'll find one
00:41:30.180
mortgage calculator, 15, 20, 30 year loan. Here's the mortgage principle and interest at an additional
00:41:36.960
20%. That's the taxes and insurance. Okay. It's 1800 bucks. Take the difference from what you're
00:41:41.760
paying now. Set that aside every single month. If you can do that for six, seven months. Okay.
00:41:46.160
You probably can afford that place. If you can't do that at all, then no, you can't afford that
00:41:50.820
place at the moment. So start gain a new skill, get a promotion, take on a new job, work a few more
00:41:58.140
hours, have her go to work, like whatever you can do to start raising your income. I mean, in addition
00:42:03.660
to that, you're just going to make sure that you're tracking your income and expenses. I guarantee
00:42:07.740
that if you start tracking, you'll, you'll, you'll start to work out a lot more discretionary
00:42:12.360
income than you think you have. Cause you'll realize you're spending an extra two, three,
00:42:15.700
$400 at the convenience store and McDonald's and all these little ticky tacky things that you don't
00:42:20.240
need, but you won't be able to identify that unless you're actually tracking it on a weekly basis,
00:42:26.340
not monthly weekly. Here's my income. Here's my expenses. Here's where it went. Here's where we lost
00:42:32.560
money. Here's what we weren't aware of. And you start to identify that. And now that you're aware of it,
00:42:36.980
you can start saving, investing it and using it in a more prudent manner.
00:42:42.260
Cool. Here's Kig advice for a 20 year old college student.
00:42:48.480
Get done with school as quickly as you possibly can. Like just, just take it to the extreme. Look,
00:42:53.680
I'm get an extra degree, maybe a few masters, take your time. Just keep rolling that in,
00:43:00.620
That's right. I'm, I'm, uh, I'm, we'll say it this way. I'm bearish on college education.
00:43:06.440
All right. If, if you need a college degree, because you need it to pursue the career that
00:43:13.340
you're after, then by all means, go do that. Do it with as little debt as possible. Work a job,
00:43:19.500
get grants, not loans, grants. I understand loans too, but I'm saying if you can get grants first,
00:43:25.060
get a job. Like, I don't want you to come out of school with, with a bunch of debt. Okay. So if you
00:43:29.980
have to do that, you have to do that. I get it. If you're just going because like, it could be fun or
00:43:35.060
maybe it'll be a good experience. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. So I'm just going to get
00:43:37.700
this degree. Yeah. Then get serious. If you don't know what you're going to do, then like,
00:43:41.960
get serious. Hey, this is what I want to do. And then, and only then should you pursue that course
00:43:46.940
of action. The college to me, isn't a place to hang out. And too many people think that,
00:43:52.220
and I'll have people from this podcast. They'll say, well, you know, you build a network and you build
00:43:56.640
discipline and yada, yada, yada, yada. I could do that a thousand other places that are going to be
00:44:01.460
much more effective, effective, much more efficient and much more profitable, frankly,
00:44:05.240
because I'll be working and earning money rather than spending money. College in a lot of ways is a
00:44:11.380
big scam. I'm not saying it isn't necessary. I'm not saying that anybody who went to college is an
00:44:17.360
idiot. I'm not saying any of that. I'm just saying you better be very, very careful of the
00:44:22.000
fire that you're playing with because fire can certainly be a benefit and it can burn and destroy
00:44:28.800
along the way. So don't waste your time. Be hyper, hyper, uh, intentional about what it is you're
00:44:36.040
doing. So you're making good decisions, prudent decisions, and you're actually moving the needle
00:44:40.020
rather than just kicking the tires and hanging out. Yeah. I am Danny boy. What do you think about
00:44:46.720
the current state of the world and all these events in relationship to Bible and biblical prophecy?
00:44:51.860
I don't think I'm willing to go there yet. Cause I, I mean, look, I, I don't know. I don't know.
00:45:00.220
I mean, there's, there's biblical prophecy and I don't know if there's something specifically
00:45:03.440
that you're talking about. And there's a bunch of things like, Oh, it's the end of the times and
00:45:06.860
end of the world. And here's all the things that are coming to fruition and coming true. And there's
00:45:10.680
wars and disease and famine and all this other stuff. And that's certainly true. Um, but yeah,
00:45:17.820
I don't know. I think that we, uh, we just need to do right. We need to live right. We need to be
00:45:24.700
healthy. We need to serve ourselves and serve our families and do what we can't elect the right
00:45:30.300
leaders, hold them to task and account, but I'm not quite there yet. As far as this is the end of
00:45:36.040
the world. And frankly, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Use it as a good learning experience regardless,
00:45:41.560
right? Well, it doesn't matter if it is or isn't right. It actually doesn't matter. Like the only thing,
00:45:46.680
the only reason it would matter is because you think it's going to be the end of the world is
00:45:50.740
coming, you know, in the 24 hours. And then of course that's going to probably dictate a lot of
00:45:54.740
your life. Like where do you need to repent and what you should do right now anyway. And do you need
00:46:00.700
to delete your, your internet browser kind of thing? You know, like if you're going to die type
00:46:05.820
thing, but, and to your point though, Kip is like, you should be living that life anyways, right? You
00:46:11.220
should be doing the right things anyways. And regardless of what happens, you're prepared. Yeah. Just be
00:46:15.860
prepared to meet your maker or to live another day. Just be prepared. Cause there is no guarantee
00:46:21.760
that you're not going to meet your maker tomorrow anyway. Well, one of those things is going to
00:46:25.280
happen. You're either going to die or you're not. So be prepared. Pretty sure that's what's going to
00:46:30.120
happen. All right. Michael Kropp, uh, for those who are not working or aren't used to working from home
00:46:38.080
and used to have, and, and used to having physical separation, what advice would you give for those
00:46:44.200
staying positive and productive despite the current situations? I always say, make yourself the
00:46:49.240
project. That's what you need to do. Make yourself the project for me. I've gotten a little stir crazy
00:46:54.120
around here at times. Cause I'm not going out and meeting and going to lunch and doing the things
00:46:58.440
that are training jujitsu, like doing the things that are a good outlet for me. Right. Yeah. But I'll
00:47:03.920
tell you what, the house looks awesome because I haven't been sitting around doing a bunch of shit
00:47:08.960
that doesn't help me or anybody else improve. So we put new flooring in the front patio. Uh,
00:47:15.800
we put in new blinds in the entire house. We cleaned out the entire attic. I remodeled the
00:47:22.960
entire office. The only thing I have done to do left and you can see it up here is the trim up the top
00:47:28.700
and on the floor, but everything else is completely remodeled. Um, I, I just wrote that document that I
00:47:34.860
shared with you a little bit of earlier. I'm writing that document. I'm, I'm building, uh, an
00:47:39.340
achievement and advancing initiative for the iron council. I decided that I was going to do 75 hard.
00:47:45.060
So I'm working out twice a day now and drinking a bunch more water than I'm used to, which is the
00:47:49.120
hardest part of it is drinking that much water. Uh, so yeah, stay busy, engage your mind, engage your
00:47:57.400
back, engage your hands and get to work. Like there's plenty to do. Just find something to do.
00:48:02.780
Be productive. Don't watch that tiger movie. Like every time you want to sit down and you want to
00:48:08.080
watch it. And I don't even understand what people are talking about. Don't watch it. This tiger
00:48:12.000
something. Right. Don't watch it. I've seen an episode and I'm like, this is stupid. I shouldn't
00:48:18.240
even watch that episode. I feel like I'll never, and I never will get that hour or whatever back of
00:48:22.420
my life. Don't watch it. Like do something, read a book, play the guitar, lift weights, whatever,
00:48:31.680
do something that's way more productive than just sitting around doing enough stuff in your face
00:48:36.640
full of crap. And there's so much of the stuff that we can do now that we procrastinate and never do
00:48:41.420
because we don't have time for, or whatever. It's like, well, now's the perfect time.
00:48:46.540
Now's the perfect time to practice the guitar because you know, that wasn't a priority. Well,
00:48:51.940
that's what you don't have jujitsu anymore. So. Right. So do something else. I'm, I've over the past
00:48:56.500
four weeks. I've been so much more productive in my life than I've ever been ever. And everything's
00:49:02.620
improving. My relationships are improving. Of course, the family dynamic is improving the
00:49:07.840
business. I was looking at income and the trajectory it's gone up over the past five
00:49:12.300
weeks and it will continue to go up over the next five weeks. My, my weight is going down. Body fat
00:49:18.020
percentage is going down. Strength is going up. Like, and I don't say this to brag. I'm just saying like,
00:49:21.820
I'm more focused than I've ever been. I don't have to say no to anything anymore. Cause they're just
00:49:27.900
not there. Right. People aren't inviting people to go do things and, and, and help them move. And
00:49:33.240
it's like, I don't have to say no to anything. That's a beautiful thing. Now I can take all that
00:49:36.940
time and commit it towards improving myself and my immediate circle, which frankly is, is my family.
00:49:42.140
That's it. Yeah. It's pretty nice actually. All right. Uh,
00:49:48.900
yeah. You'd rather have names, wouldn't you? I know this is really hard.
00:49:56.400
Although some, some of it's kind of funny, but, uh, what is one thing you wish you would have
00:50:00.540
learned in your twenties? We get this question from time to time. Yeah. And I still don't like it.
00:50:07.860
I mean, what do you feel like you need to learn? Learn that.
00:50:12.680
I don't understand where this question comes from. Like, help me understand the context of this
00:50:17.080
question. I don't think I've ever asked like, Hey, what should I have learned five years ago?
00:50:22.300
Yeah. I don't know. Like Jack, I think it's the hijack. It's the idea that like, Oh wait,
00:50:27.280
if Ryan knowing what he knows now, it looked back at his life and said, I should have learned this.
00:50:33.800
Then if I learned that, then I'll even be like even better off. I mean, there's a thousand things.
00:50:40.360
Like I wish I knew everything. I wish I was God of the universe five years ago. Like that's
00:50:45.760
technically the answer, but you can't know that. Yeah. Look, I'm trying to, I'm trying to be
00:50:50.860
understanding of the question. Like what are a couple of lessons that I think you should know?
00:50:56.120
You know, again, it depends. Like here's, here's one. And I answered this earlier. It's like,
00:51:00.900
ask a better question. Like I wish 10 years ago, I would have learned to ask better questions
00:51:06.940
in a better question is hyper, hyper specific. So if you're like, what do you think I should know?
00:51:14.180
I have no idea. But if you said, Hey, I'm starting a business and I'm trying to grow my email list
00:51:20.620
and I don't have people converting. What's the, what three things should I know?
00:51:27.200
Awesome question. Very specific. You know what you want. You're giving me some instruction on what it
00:51:33.100
is I can do to maybe help you, or maybe I can't. And I have to direct you somewhere else.
00:51:37.340
That's a more powerful question. So what I would say to answer this is one thing I wish I knew
00:51:41.740
five years ago is how to ask powerful questions. And a powerful question means that
00:51:48.900
you have to put some effort into it. Like, like you can't, if you just ask a question like that,
00:51:57.040
you're like passing the buck. A better way is saying, okay, well, like, what do I want to learn?
00:52:02.820
Okay. I want to learn about starting a business or I want to learn about losing weight. I want to learn
00:52:07.160
about nutrition. I want to learn about how to connect with women. Like, what is it specifically
00:52:12.080
that you want? And then you ask that question from people who have those results. And that's where
00:52:17.420
you're going to start to see the results for yourself and get better answers. Because right
00:52:22.460
now, if I just said, Oh, you should, um, you should learn to be a pilot. That's one thing I wish I would
00:52:27.200
have learned five years ago. That may not be what you need to focus on. I don't know.
00:52:30.360
So I'm not trying to beat, beat you up too bad on this. I'm just saying like five years ago,
00:52:36.120
I wish I would have known how to ask better questions that were hyper-focused so that I could
00:52:41.340
get the exact results and answers that I was looking for. It would have been a much more effective way
00:52:47.260
to go about my life. And by the way, any mentor will tell you that if you're, cause a lot of people
00:52:51.520
say, well, like, how do I find a mentor? What are you looking for? Well, I want, okay, good. Now you
00:52:57.320
narrowed it down and you can start looking in the wrong path at the right path.
00:53:01.220
Yeah. Well, and I'll pull a Mickler. Sometimes the things that we wanted to learn when we're 20,
00:53:06.160
we weren't capable of learning. Yeah, that's true. Right. The thing I look at, I, if I think about 20,
00:53:12.300
what I wish would probably be better self-awareness. And some of that has to actually
00:53:18.080
like literally has to do with physical brain development. So who knows how well I could have
00:53:23.580
pulled that off at age 20, probably not very well. Yeah. I agree. I just, I just say,
00:53:29.800
what, what do you want to learn? What do you, what result do you want to produce?
00:53:35.380
That's what you need to learn. Yeah. All right. Flying bluntsman. If anything,
00:53:41.120
what are you working on towards while still in lockdown?
00:53:45.220
I talked a little bit about these. So I'm doing 75 hard. So given that the, the, the try on that,
00:53:52.080
um, doing the achievements and the advancement initiative inside of the iron council, these are
00:53:57.400
different achievements that men will be able to unlock and then advance within their, within the
00:54:01.620
iron council itself. Uh, working on the book suggested that a little earlier, um, obviously
00:54:07.460
kind of revisiting the mission and the purpose of the organization and the order of man. Uh, and I,
00:54:13.640
that will translate over into some changes on the website to make it more user-friendly and,
00:54:18.860
and clean up the clear flow and clear up a message and the process and where guys can go for resources.
00:54:25.120
And then also working on, uh, building out a more comprehensive offering of merchandise in our
00:54:33.560
store. Like you have, you have a order man shirt on an order, a man hat. I have an order man shirt on
00:54:38.780
order man hat. So like, I want to make sure that we have a more comprehensive offering of what's
00:54:42.820
available there. So we've got a new hat coming out here soon too, called the watchman.
00:54:46.740
It's awesome. Watchman. Like it. All right. Uh, Joe Dunham, what are two favorite podcasts you
00:54:53.180
listen to currently when you're not recording your own? Um, Hmm. Let me pull up my, my phone
00:55:00.400
here and I'll tell you, cause there's quite a few of them. Two favorites, two, two favorites. I
00:55:05.220
got to set two. I don't know. Do you want to, do you want to limit it down to two? You're going to,
00:55:09.320
uh, I like, I'll give you two. I like, uh, Ben Shapiro and he's so smart and he is. He's
00:55:21.140
amazing. Uh, London real. Those are the two I'd give you right now. Copy other ones. Should
00:55:27.800
I give some bonuses here though? Or yeah, I guess the bonuses. All right. Art of manliness
00:55:31.680
is good. Um, this one with Dan Crenshaw, hold these truths is, is pretty interesting. Uh,
00:55:41.260
Jordan Harbinger shows good. What else? Got a lot in here. Uh, cleared hot. Andy stump is
00:55:48.420
good. Jordan B Peterson podcast. Yeah. Mike drop really F with Andy for Silla team. Never
00:55:57.040
quit Choco Rogan, et cetera, et cetera. There you go. All right. Tarragus 20. Let's take
00:56:09.260
a couple more by the way, Kit. Okay. Tarragus 20. Are there any worthwhile order of women
00:56:14.420
style blogs and sites? I enjoy and appreciate order man philosophy. And I wish that there was
00:56:19.780
a similar supportive community for women regarding true femininity and our roles. Um, I
00:56:27.020
I don't know. I really don't. I get this question quite a bit. This sounds like a woman is asking
00:56:31.220
this question. Yeah. All right. Okay. Um, yeah, I actually get a lot from men because they want
00:56:36.400
to know where they go for their wife. And I don't know. I don't, I don't really know what's
00:56:41.100
out there. Obviously I'm not like immersed in that world. So if you have any suggestions
00:56:45.560
or recommendations, then let me know. Cause people ask the question and I just don't know.
00:56:49.900
And I don't spend time researching it cause it's not, you know, in the wheelhouse of the things
00:56:53.380
that we're doing. So if you have recommendations, let me know. I'm all ears. Cool.
00:56:57.660
Leon Johnson from Texas or dot Texas. Uh, when does the scout make its comeback?
00:57:04.700
Uh, the scout hat. I'm this. Well, Oh no, no, no. Sorry. He's talking about my truck.
00:57:10.240
Yeah. I was like the, the what now is the scout not for selling on the hat anymore?
00:57:14.880
No, it's, it's there. It, we were just out of stock. And so we just restocked two days ago.
00:57:20.000
It's the hat. It's coming back. It's there. If it's a truck, uh, probably within the next week,
00:57:26.200
we'll bust it out. Cause the snow's all gone. Um, it's pretty soggy out in the field right now.
00:57:30.460
So if I took it out of the thing, like I might get swamped in the river that I have to cross in
00:57:36.020
order to get it to where we want it. So probably in the next week or week and a half, I'd say it'll
00:57:41.000
be out. That's funny. I'm rolling around cruising the streets of Maine.
00:57:46.380
All right. Uh, Goldman, how do you feel about your shorter beard?
00:57:51.860
I'm actually thinking about going shorter. Oh, I don't know. I haven't decided. I like,
00:57:56.800
I like the shorter beard better than the longer beard though. Actually it doesn't get in the way.
00:58:00.960
It's easier to maintain. It just looks better. So I don't mind it. All right. Uh, the only DJ David,
00:58:10.420
I have a son doing two months, best advice. Uh, continue to take care of yourself. Like all the
00:58:18.580
other advice you'll get, like, Oh, you know, love him. You'll get all that stuff. But what you won't
00:58:24.440
hear a lot is continue to take care of yourself. And that is where most men fail. Like just the fact
00:58:29.380
that you're asking the question says, you're probably going to be a relatively good dad.
00:58:32.620
You're going to mess some things up because you're a dad. That's what we do, but you're going to get a
00:58:36.120
lot of things right because you're, yeah, you're intentional about it. You, you want to be a good dad.
00:58:40.040
So like changing the diapers and feeding him and being patient and all this other stuff that you
00:58:44.300
can hear from everybody else. You're, you're going to do that by default because you're a dad.
00:58:48.780
But what a lot of men do is they like forsake all their friends. They let go of all their hobbies and
00:58:56.940
their activities, their interests, and they stop taking care of themselves. And it's noble because
00:59:01.960
you're focused now on your kid and your wife and everything else. But if you don't take care of
00:59:06.120
yourself, you're going to burn up and burn out and you're going to produce a less than favorable
00:59:11.580
result. And I'm just telling you, I'm going to be so bold as to say, it's very likely that if you
00:59:16.600
don't take care of yourself, that you're just destined to walk the path of divorce and or single
00:59:23.000
fatherhood. Uh, and I know that sounds like extreme, but I'm telling you if you, and I've seen
00:59:29.060
it time in and time out. If you do not heed my warning of taking care of yourself, that is the path
00:59:33.920
that you're walking. And it's very likely that it'll happen. Would you agree with that? I know
00:59:38.420
that's like almost an alarmist way of looking at it. I'm just telling you that is the path of
00:59:43.860
divorce and single fatherhood. You, you will become the man or a man that your wife doesn't want to be
00:59:51.980
with and that your son or daughter will not look up to. That's a great way to, that's a, that's a very
00:59:57.380
like grim way to look at it, but it's like the exact right way to look at it.
01:00:04.740
I like that. I'm going to write that down, man. No, that's really good. So you'll be,
01:00:09.280
you're going to become the man your wife doesn't want to be with and the father that your son or
01:00:14.860
daughter doesn't look up to. Yeah. That's, that's powerful. There it is. There it is.
01:00:22.540
I'm stealing that by Ryan Mickler. To follow Ryan Mickler and to read his new quote,
01:00:32.460
follow him on Twitter and Instagram. And I'm assuming this may happen again. So if you guys
01:00:41.260
want to obviously follow Ryan, stay, get in contact with him and maybe a future submission
01:00:46.960
of questions to the MA that's at Ryan Mickler, M I C H L E R. We talked about this, you know,
01:00:53.800
and a lot of these questions today are just about becoming better, right? How do I become
01:00:57.880
an intentional father for my new son? How do I take advantage of my time of isolation? Well,
01:01:04.640
you get on the court of life and you play the game and you become better and you find men to hold
01:01:10.440
you accountable. That's another topic on today's discussions was accountability and what that looks
01:01:16.200
like. And, and you use the example of Andy Frisilla and holding people accountable is tough. That's
01:01:22.680
one of the things I love about the iron council. It is, it is a playground. If you're a passive
01:01:28.640
individual that doesn't feel comfortable communicating and, and you do not like to be
01:01:33.260
held accountable, join us in iron council and then ask your team to hold you accountable and communicate
01:01:39.600
like you normally don't communicate and speak up when you normally don't speak up.
01:01:44.660
Yeah. Because Kip, I can say one thing on there is like, it is possible to hide out in the iron
01:01:51.140
So like we've created this framework, but I've seen a lot of guys like hiding out. Cause there's
01:01:55.660
a lot of guys in there, right? Yeah. Look, we've created the framework, but you've got to do the
01:02:00.680
work. You've got to put forth the effort. So if you have those little butterflies in your stomach
01:02:04.200
about not sharing and not opening up and you're, you don't want anybody to take you to task, then
01:02:08.840
that's probably exactly what you need. So don't let yourself hide and be passive.
01:02:13.440
Totally. And we have this, we have this environment by where you could do that. And what's the
01:02:17.980
consequence? Some dudes online that don't even know you might judge you at least tried it out
01:02:24.960
here. Right. And join us in the iron council and figure it out and learn in this playground. So
01:02:30.000
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01:02:34.820
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01:02:40.360
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store.orderofman.com. That's it, man. Well done. Done. All right, guys. Appreciate you. Glad you're in
01:02:59.360
the battle. Just make sure to connect with us. We've got a lot of good information and some new
01:03:02.660
initiatives coming out, including, you know, the book that we'll, I'll start talking about a little bit
01:03:06.720
more as we get closer, but really glad that you're on the path with us. We need more men in this fight
01:03:11.660
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01:03:16.000
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01:03:20.640
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