Order of Man - ANDY FRISELLA

00:00:00.000 Gents today, I'm joined by the one and only Andy Priscilla. Now I don't say this lightly,

00:00:05.280 but this is hands down. One of the single best podcast conversations, uh, that I've had since

00:00:11.000 starting podcasting nearly five and a half years ago. Now we all know that the world is in chaos.

00:00:15.900 And frankly, it seems like so few of us are willing to have the tough and difficult conversations

00:00:21.860 that we need to have in order to come up with some solutions to what ails us. Uh, today,

00:00:27.100 Andy and I address many of those concerns as we talk about societal issues, having difficult and

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00:00:39.780 common and frankly, how you can take charge of your life. You're a man of action. You live life to the

00:00:45.320 fullest, embrace your fears and boldly charge your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back

00:00:50.880 up one more time. Every time you are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.

00:00:58.440 This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become at the end of the day.

00:01:03.620 And after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

00:01:07.920 Gentlemen, what is going on today? My name is Brian Michler and I am the host and the founder

00:01:12.480 of this podcast and the order of man movement. I want to welcome you here. And I don't care if

00:01:17.120 you've been here for five seconds or been here for five years. I want you to know that it is my goal

00:01:24.140 and my sole objective to give you everything that you need to be able to be a better, stronger,

00:01:31.480 more capable man. So if you're a father, if you're a husband, if you're a business owner,

00:01:35.920 if you're a leader in your community, actually, I don't even care what, what area of life you're

00:01:41.160 showing up as. If you're a man, I welcome you and I want to give you everything that you need to be

00:01:46.140 successful. And part of that is this podcast. We've got courses and we've got programs and

00:01:51.360 we've got events and we've got swag and we've got all these other things. But I think the real value

00:01:55.240 of what we're doing here is the conversations that we're having. And this one is no exception.

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00:03:12.840 Origin main.com use the code order. All right, guys, let me get into my introduction as if you

00:03:19.020 needed this. I don't think there's very many people who listen to this podcast who need this

00:03:22.660 introduction, but I am joined today by my good friend, Andy Frisilla. Now, I don't know about you,

00:03:28.540 but I started listening to his podcast, which was originally MFCEO, uh, roughly five years ago,

00:03:34.140 him and I started podcasting at the same time. Uh, and I was immediately impressed with his ability

00:03:39.760 to just call it like it is. Now he's the founder of the extremely successful supplement company

00:03:44.720 first form. Uh, he's the host of the number one podcast in the world, which was MFCEO. Uh, but since

00:03:51.120 making that podcast so successful, he transitioned into talking about the real issues that seem to be

00:03:57.160 plaguing society, uh, and launched his second podcast, which is also a number one ranked podcast,

00:04:03.700 real AF. And frankly, I think it's better than his first. You guys can be the judge of that.

00:04:08.560 Uh, now I had the chance to spend a day with him at their new 200,000 square foot, uh, facility in

00:04:14.500 St. Louis and was absolutely blown away. I mean, I can't even, the words don't even do it justice,

00:04:20.040 but I was blown away, uh, with the facility and actually every single person that I met,

00:04:26.380 uh, in the first form family, uh, that day. So I hope you enjoy this podcast. Take some notes,

00:04:31.460 guys, you're going to be inspired. You're going to be motivated and you're going to walk away with

00:04:35.180 the perspectives you need to succeed. Andy, what's up, man? It's good to be here in the, uh,

00:04:40.060 in the new place. Thanks, man. This is awesome. Yeah. It's, uh, it's surreal still.

00:04:45.020 Is it? What have you guys been here for what? Two weeks now or so? Yeah, this is our second week.

00:04:48.580 Yeah. So it looks like there's still some stuff they're doing around here. Yeah, they are. We've

00:04:53.000 got, uh, we've got a number of projects that are, uh, you know, that's why we haven't really shown

00:04:57.980 too much of it yet because we're still trying to button it up. I know I was trying to take

00:05:01.480 pictures. These guys are like, don't take pictures. Yeah. So yeah, we're trying to, you know,

00:05:05.040 we want to keep it. I get it. But it looks awesome. Thanks brother. I'm stoked for you guys.

00:05:08.680 Thank you. It's really cool. Cause I think, I think we initially met, it was probably three years or so

00:05:13.540 ago, maybe at the old, and the old place was phenomenal too. Some just as amazing. But then

00:05:18.340 you come here and you see this hat, like what's the square footage on this place? Uh, the whole

00:05:22.080 thing is, uh, right around 200,000. Yeah. Yeah. This place is a massive facility, but it's amazing.

00:05:27.620 Well, good, man. I know we just, uh, recorded for your podcast for two hours. I figured let's go for

00:05:32.840 another, another round here, man. That was a fun conversation. I got to tell you, I really

00:05:37.580 appreciate your pivot from MF CEO to real AF. Cause I think, I think it was, I think it was good

00:05:45.940 timing, but I think it's exactly what society needs. And that's what we were talking about in

00:05:50.260 the last podcast is like, just the conversations aren't happening. People aren't talking.

00:05:57.100 We hear these things like the, you know, the silent majority. I'm like, it can't be the silent

00:06:01.780 majority anymore. It's good. We got to wake up and start talking about the majority. And that's what

00:06:05.180 you're doing. Yeah. I'm trying to man. You know, um, I really did that out of a couple of different

00:06:11.280 reasons. And a lot of people, you know, they, they, they, they weren't down with it and that's

00:06:15.300 cool. Um, what was their concern or what were you upset about? I want to learn business from you,

00:06:20.420 but I don't care about your views on this or that. Well, that's okay. Um, yeah, I want to talk about

00:06:25.360 my views because a lot of people asked me all the time under the other show and I didn't really feel

00:06:30.900 that it mixed in well, um, with the format, you know, that was more of a lecture show where I'm

00:06:35.720 teaching lessons and this is more of a conversation show. Right. And my hope is, is that regardless of

00:06:42.700 people agree or disagree with what I, I say, my hope is to show people what conversations should

00:06:48.980 look like. Yeah. Um, and so I'm excited, you know, now that we're in this new building, I'm able to have

00:06:54.700 actual guests come, uh, and be on the show. The, the old one, I could do that, but it just wasn't

00:07:00.800 ideal for how we wanted to edit it. So now we've got a new studio. Uh, we're not even sitting in it

00:07:05.540 right now. We're still sitting in a conference room. Uh, but our new studio will be ready probably

00:07:10.200 next week and we'll be able to start doing some really cool conversations. Uh, my goal is to bring

00:07:15.080 some people on that, you know, don't necessarily agree with what I would say my views are.

00:07:20.920 I think that's probably more important than ever is like, let's have, let's, let's model a

00:07:25.280 conversation for people where we don't a hundred percent agree on everything. Yeah. Cause right

00:07:30.260 now most of us, and I do, I do it too. Like the guys that we have on the podcast are kind of the

00:07:34.180 same and we, we all believe kind of in the same things for the most part. Yeah. And so in a lot

00:07:37.980 of ways it just becomes an echo chamber. And I, I want to do something similar where it's like,

00:07:42.660 all right, let's, let's bring somebody on who, who maybe adamantly disagrees, but can do it in a,

00:07:47.660 in the right way. And I have a number of friends like that. I have some, you know,

00:07:50.920 some really good friends that people would recognize if I said their names that we definitely

00:07:55.580 do not see eye to eye on some of these views. We happen to see eye to eye on business, but our

00:08:00.660 social views, um, and views on life in general may not align. And so I wanted to bring to light

00:08:06.980 some of those conversations and do just some, some real shit. You know, I feel like everybody's

00:08:12.400 talking with an agenda right now. And, um, my agenda, this is actually counterproductive to my

00:08:20.520 agenda by doing that because you know, you, you end up saying things that people, you know,

00:08:25.740 don't want to hear or don't agree with, or, you know, and their automatic response right now on the

00:08:32.400 way society's wired is, well, fuck him then. Yeah. I can't even, I'm not going to shop for you. I'm

00:08:38.060 not going to shop with him. I'm not going to support him. I'm not going to this. Oh, he's

00:08:40.880 fucking blocked. And have you noticed that a lot? Like when you did really F did that impact

00:08:45.980 business? Oh yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I did not see. No, I haven't seen

00:08:50.240 that. Um, no, not at all. Cause I've seen some people, I think it's things that you've posted

00:08:55.180 where people have cut, like, like called you out, like you're on some sort of like weird

00:08:59.920 list where it's like, don't do business with these companies or whatever. I've got that,

00:09:04.720 but you know, yeah, but bro, I just stand up to it. And I think that's the difference. You know,

00:09:09.440 I've been quote unquote canceled a number of times. Yeah. Um, but I, I just stand up to it

00:09:16.520 and I say, well, you know, I dress it head on. And I think the problem is, you know, for most

00:09:22.800 people right now, when they get, they start getting attacked, they automatically bend and

00:09:26.640 are they, they, they bow or they break apologize. And dude, like that's, that's not what makes

00:09:33.000 it actually work for you. If you want the cancel to actually work in your benefit, use it as a

00:09:39.040 platform and look at it as a platform when you have everybody's attention to say what is actually

00:09:43.360 the truth. And so that's what I've been doing. That's a good point. Yeah. And so, um, you know,

00:09:48.980 uh, I got a lot of shit for not posting the black square and not posting the black square on my

00:09:54.060 business pages, all of them. And first of all, we're a business. We're not a political news media

00:09:59.060 organization. Yeah. Second of all, I'm from St. Louis where the Ferguson riots happened and we have,

00:10:04.420 uh, black lives matter basically sort of formed here. Right. And so I'm very,

00:10:09.040 very familiar with the organization and I'm very familiar with where the money goes because I do

00:10:13.460 my research on things like that. And it does not go to help black people. It goes to help

00:10:18.400 liberal white people. All right. And I'm not okay with that. So instead I chose to not post the,

00:10:25.020 the post. I didn't use the hashtag and instead I donated money to actual businesses. How dare you

00:10:31.400 actually do something that's going to help. Correct. And, but I still got trash for it. I know that's

00:10:35.420 crazy. You know, it is what it is. And I, but what I did was I laid out, uh, my record of life

00:10:41.740 basically starting from when I got stabbed in the face and I explained all the things that we've done

00:10:47.760 that are anti-racist and anti-racism, um, in a very factual matter. And you know what? Most people

00:10:54.680 were, I'll be honest, most people, uh, they said, they said, well, you know, it's not you,

00:11:01.760 it's everybody else then. Yeah. You know, like they, they, they let off on me and went somewhere

00:11:05.560 else. Right. But you know, I think people pick on, well, obviously bullies pick on weak people.

00:11:10.880 Yeah. So if you're going to waffle and bend and cave, that's where the mob is going to go.

00:11:14.640 Cause that's the path of least resistance. That's right. And those are the people who are

00:11:17.540 going to cave and bow to their every whims and desires. And the problem is with that too. And this

00:11:22.280 is a business strategy problem. You know, you alienate your core business when you, when you don't,

00:11:27.660 when you go and try to like be the peacemaker of like, Oh, well you're right. Even if they're

00:11:32.920 not right now, if you're wrong, like if you're wrong, yeah, legitimately wrong. And if you're

00:11:37.540 legitimately wrong, you should apologize. You should take ownership and fix it. Yeah. But

00:11:42.880 what's happening now is, is we have people apologizing when they're really not fucking

00:11:46.280 sorry. And then it just gets worse for them because it alienates their whole core. Well,

00:11:50.420 some of the things I get sick of is like going to do business somewhere and then feeling like

00:11:55.900 every business in the world has to have some sort of social agenda. I'm like, dude, I just want to

00:12:00.200 pump gas. Yeah. Right. Like I just want to eat dinner, bro. I just want to buy some stuff for

00:12:06.120 the house. I don't want to watch a football game. Right. Yes, exactly. I want to watch a football

00:12:10.280 game. I want to watch a fucking, uh, a car race. I want to watch a baseball game. Yes. I want to

00:12:15.540 watch a movie. I want to watch an award show. Like, dude, I can't be the only person that's sick of

00:12:21.120 having all this shit shoved down our fucking throats everywhere, regardless of if I agree

00:12:26.420 with it or not. Like I'm not looking to the NFL to make my political statements, right? Like stand

00:12:33.980 fucking play the anthem, play some motherfucking football and I'll keep watching. And then we're

00:12:38.840 good to go. That's all I need. But like, dude, I'm not going to continue to watch the NFL. If they

00:12:43.660 continue to try to shove these movements down, everybody's fucking throat, just like I'm going to,

00:12:48.780 you know, I just think there's a place and a time for these conversations. And I think a lot of

00:12:53.440 people are bowing to the pressure that they need to be an activist. What the problem is, is that the

00:12:59.180 pressure that you're hearing is from a very small amount of people. Yeah. And so what happens is you

00:13:03.980 end up bending your whole fucking, you know, viewpoints to, to represent, let's say, you know,

00:13:09.600 liberally 20% of the people. Yeah. Yeah. That's very liberal. There is more like 2%. Probably. Okay.

00:13:16.320 And then you change your whole product around and the 80% of the people are like, what the

00:13:21.960 fuck? And that's, what's happening to a lot of companies right now. A lot of companies

00:13:25.600 are like really making some bad choices in terms of what they say and don't say and how

00:13:30.800 they say it, uh, around these current issues. And, and Americans are tired from, from my

00:13:36.960 perspective of what I've been able to observe and have through conversations. I feel like America

00:13:42.380 is tired of having things just shoved down our throat, regardless of if it's right or

00:13:47.600 left or whatever. They're just burned out. That's right. Like, dude, shut the fuck up and

00:13:51.420 throw your motherfucking football. That's right. And I think most people, I think most of us,

00:13:56.020 and it doesn't matter what side of the aisle that you sit on. I think there's extremists on

00:13:59.340 both sides, but I think the overwhelming majority of us, like you said, 98% of us, dude, we all

00:14:04.660 want the same thing. I know we do. Right? Like we want some money in the bank account. We want to

00:14:08.860 have some experiences. We want some romance. We want some, uh, deep and meaningful connections

00:14:13.300 with friends and other family members. And we want to be fulfilled. Like we want, we want

00:14:17.300 some sort of like meaning and purpose in our life. Absolutely. Everybody wants that. Yes.

00:14:22.420 So we're all on the same page and we're arguing about these 2% fringe things that we're like

00:14:28.500 quote unquote supposed to worry about. And I just don't think is as prevalent as the 2% is trying

00:14:33.620 to make it seem like. No, because we had the meat, the media aligns with that 2%, right? And the media

00:14:39.320 makes it look like it's 50% or 70% even, um, when it's not. And so then companies make decisions based

00:14:48.740 on that data that are inaccurate. Right. You know, like, dude, I would never make a decision based on

00:14:54.020 what any poll that is produced by any of the main media outlets says. None of them. Yeah. Like I would

00:15:01.160 never make a choice on that because you don't know if it's true. And I I'm willing to bet that these

00:15:05.980 extremists that we're seeing that all these people are like basically like trying to pacify with their

00:15:11.900 marketing messages. I think it's less than 10% of the actual people. Yeah. So, you know, I, I, my business

00:15:18.880 advice to all of you that own companies would be to do business. Right. Learn, learn how to, how to offer

00:15:25.220 a value or a service or a product to people and get really good at just doing that. Yes. And then

00:15:31.040 you can take your activism or whatever somewhere else and do it in your spare time. And by all

00:15:35.380 means, and dude, most of these people who are wanting to be at like the argument there is, well,

00:15:39.820 they have a right to be heard too. I agree. I agree. It doesn't make it a good decision though.

00:15:44.540 That's right. So I agree that athletes deserve to have their opinions heard and that's fine.

00:15:49.680 But I all, I think we could also agree that they might not be the best fucking people to listen to.

00:15:54.120 I think the same would be said for movie stars or any kind of sort of celebrity. These people,

00:15:58.560 athletes have spent their whole life in a weight room and on a football field or a baseball field

00:16:02.640 or a soccer field or whatever, hockey rink. What about their lives would make you think they have

00:16:10.140 intelligent views on society? Yeah. You don't know. There's something to do, but they would

00:16:14.700 have to demonstrate that we have a problem in culture right now where we automatically look

00:16:18.760 to people who are of higher, uh, prestigious, recognizable positions, certain elements,

00:16:26.700 politicians, athletes, actors, actors, you know, et cetera, et cetera. Even influencers on the fucking

00:16:32.660 dude, me included. Right. Like everybody should be looking at someone's like track record to make

00:16:39.260 intelligent decisions before they just go ahead and align with them. Right. And we, we've lost that

00:16:44.440 accountability in society. I believe, I think the media has become so strong that they push the

00:16:49.940 message so hard that people, when they don't know what to think, they say, well, that, that must be

00:16:54.960 right. That sounds good. That must be right. If everybody's saying it must be right. And you know,

00:16:59.420 that's dangerous, man, like real dangerous. And a lot of people, you know, I think on your show,

00:17:05.160 a lot of people will agree with that. You know, on my show, I I'm, I'm, we're a more,

00:17:09.520 I would say moderate show. I have a lot of liberal people that listen to the show and I love them.

00:17:15.880 I have a lot of liberal friends. Um, but they, they're not trying to hear reason right now. A

00:17:22.120 lot of people are stuck with their ego. There's, they're stuck in that, you know, place of, I want

00:17:28.080 to be right. Whether then I want to actually be on the winning side, you know, and, um, that's going

00:17:34.420 to be dangerous for a lot of people. I think look moving forward, because I believe a lot of people

00:17:38.640 right now are posting and saying, um, some pretty ridiculous shit. And I think they should be

00:17:46.260 worried about how that's going to be looked at in their future. Because I could tell you the first

00:17:50.380 thing that we do when we employ somebody is we look at their social media. Do you really? Yeah. Oh,

00:17:54.600 fuck. Yeah. I want to know who I'm dealing with. What are you looking for? I'm just looking for

00:17:58.340 someone who's reasonable, someone who's intelligent, someone who's not polarizing and have civil

00:18:02.740 discussions. Someone who like, I don't look at like people and say, Oh, well they fucking support

00:18:08.460 this. Right. Here's a Democrat. Here's a conservative. No, you're not doing that. But I look at people

00:18:12.540 who, who can at least intelligently explain why they believe what they believe. And, and, uh, and I

00:18:18.380 don't look for cowards either. I don't look for people who just stay silent on things. Yeah. I don't

00:18:22.360 like that. I think it's important for people to, um, express that, learn how to express their views

00:18:28.640 in a, in a way that, that can be, you know, not polarizing. Just reasonable. Yeah. Reasonable.

00:18:35.820 That's what shouldn't be that hard to find. It is, man. It's super hard. Yeah. It's like

00:18:41.100 whatever, what, you know, if you're on that side, I'm on this side and, and, and that's

00:18:44.560 what they want. That's what the whole point of all of this shit is. It's to get people

00:18:49.260 to draw a line in the sand and decide which one they're on. I think the, I think the other

00:18:53.140 reason too, and we alluded to this a little bit in our podcast we did for your show.

00:18:57.200 So the guys who are listening to this need to go check that one out as well. Cause that

00:19:00.160 one's really good. Um, is, is people are just looking for things to be about them, right?

00:19:06.200 Like everything's so personal and they read into things, they, they make weird assumptions

00:19:10.580 and they connect two different points. And it's like, you're, you're really clamoring

00:19:16.080 to make this about you. And it actually has nothing to do with you whatsoever. You know,

00:19:20.540 like great examples, you look at and Jemima syrup, right? Or what is it? The land, land of

00:19:26.000 legs, butter, whatever that butter is. It's like, that's not personal. No, it's not personal

00:19:30.920 or changing the Redskins football team. But there's other, there's other, there's other

00:19:34.720 perspectives in play here, man. There's a lot of people who look at aunt Jemima syrup

00:19:41.380 as an honorable thing. Like that's a thing. Like she was celebrated as, as, as someone

00:19:45.760 who did something good self-made. Yeah. That's probably the pride of their entire

00:19:49.840 fucking family that you just took. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like dude, these sports

00:19:55.180 teams with a, with the Redskins, let's just say like, or, or the Indians, like those,

00:20:00.100 those teams were not named those teams to shame. To mock anybody. No, they were named

00:20:04.940 those teams. Cause it's, it's pride. It's powerful, dude. Yeah. Like dude, you don't

00:20:10.040 think they're washing Redskins where you name the washing Redskins because they're

00:20:13.880 fierce warriors. Yeah. They were, they were feared. Right. Exactly. Like that's an, and I

00:20:18.740 understand times change and everything. And I'm not, I'm not a Indian American. I

00:20:23.180 actually am a little bit, but I don't know enough about the culture to, to know

00:20:26.660 what's offensive or not offensive. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like the, the, the

00:20:30.560 part I have, I don't know enough to know. That's just the truth. Right. But I could

00:20:35.340 tell you as someone who is not Indian and who understands a little bit about some

00:20:40.420 things that like, to me, that seems like it was named that in an honor. Yeah. Not as

00:20:47.140 a negative thing. A slight. Right. I think why would you name your team that you want

00:20:51.200 to win every fucking game and kick everybody's ass a shitty name? Like that's a name. Like

00:20:56.900 dude, we're the fucking Redskins. We're a kick your fucking ass. Like I think what

00:21:00.460 people are trying to do. I think that's cool. I do too. I think what's happening

00:21:04.040 though is there's a group of people who are like trying to rep represent or talk for

00:21:10.280 another group of people. Like you're supposed to be offended. Let's be offended for

00:21:13.560 them. And then you ask that group of people are like, no, we actually don't care

00:21:16.400 about it. Most people aren't, most people aren't offended. Most people, most people

00:21:20.260 pretend to be offended because they think that's what they're supposed to do. Yeah. That's

00:21:24.160 the truth. So we have a big problem with that right now because everybody wants to jump

00:21:28.400 in on the, on the side of the team that's up in arms. Well, if you're not truly offended

00:21:34.240 by it, maybe you should just not say anything. You know what I mean? That would be a start

00:21:37.880 right. Or, you know, offer a different perspective. I don't ask them say, is this offensive

00:21:42.860 to you? Does this bother you? Yeah. No. Okay. Drive on. Now I'm sure if you pulled every

00:21:47.820 native American out there, there's a percentage of them that say it was offensive, but I would

00:21:52.380 bet the percentage of them that think it's offensive is less than the percentage that

00:21:56.040 think it's awesome. I'm sure. And you know, I think it's, I think it's kind of sad too,

00:22:00.120 man, because like I look at that, like what, so we're going to name them something else,

00:22:03.620 right? Okay. Now we're going to name the Indians something else too. Well, are we going to name

00:22:09.660 it in honor of those groups again? Or are those groups going to be forgotten about now?

00:22:13.660 You're going to forget about it completely. I'm just saying, you know, so we're going

00:22:17.980 to name them the blades or some generic like name. It doesn't mean shit that nobody likes

00:22:23.660 like, dude, nobody's winning here is my point. No. Like who the fuck is winning?

00:22:27.680 And why does it matter? Like there's, there's actual real issues that maybe we ought to consider

00:22:32.700 addressing. I think so. And dude, I don't, maybe I'm totally off base with that. I don't

00:22:37.340 know, you know, but I don't think so. I don't know, bro. Cause I'm not an Indian, right? Like

00:22:42.320 I'm not an American Indian. I don't know, but I have seen like people, uh, well, fuck, here's

00:22:49.780 the poll right here. New poll finds nine and 10 native Americans are not offended by Redskin's

00:22:55.760 name. Okay. So now we're going to take, so now that gives me a little perspective. Cause

00:23:00.300 I didn't know that. So now we're going to take a name that to the people that represents

00:23:05.400 90% of them think that it's fucking cool. Yep. And we're going to take that away to

00:23:10.600 fix it to appease one person, bro. That's racist in itself. That's racist in itself. Think

00:23:16.580 about that. We're taking away recognition of a race because somebody of another race thinks

00:23:23.560 that it's offensive, right? Or it should be dude, that's scary shit. And you know, I don't,

00:23:29.900 it's not offensive to me. And I look at it as a cool thing. I think Indians or native Americans

00:23:34.520 are some of the baddest ass fucking people ever. That's my, that, and I understand there's

00:23:39.000 a lot of bad feelings between native Americans and America and stolen land, all these things.

00:23:44.600 I totally, I totally hear that, but I'm saying from a white person, so to speak, like I think

00:23:51.020 people mostly would consider me a white person. Um, I think American Indians are fucking awesome.

00:23:57.640 And when I see a big ass headdress and shit, I'm like, fuck dude, that's fierce. That's some

00:24:02.220 hard shit. These motherfuckers were the baddest there was. And you think about what that,

00:24:06.580 that chief or whatever did for his people and the level of respect that he had to garner from

00:24:12.000 those individuals. You think that's a thing of honor. And so dude, like I see those names as like

00:24:18.920 honorable, you know, it seems like they do too. Yeah. So I, we've got a, in my, uh, in our hometown,

00:24:25.300 I'm in Maine now, but in, in, in Utah, we're in Southern Utah and they call it Utah's Dixie.

00:24:30.620 That's the term Utah's Dixie. And there's a big debate and things now of like changing. Cause

00:24:36.560 there's Dixie high school, there's the Dixie rock, there's the hill with a D on it because

00:24:40.980 somehow some way Dixie is supposed to be offensive or racist. I'm like, what is it? I don't know.

00:24:49.040 Isn't Dixie just aligned with like, like Southern heritage or pride?

00:24:52.300 Right. Like, right. That's it. Yeah. I mean, I don't, but a lot of people associate

00:24:57.800 the South South racism and that's just not true. There's a, there's a dude, the South actually,

00:25:04.520 if you actually would get in your fucking car and go there and talk to people is one of the

00:25:08.660 least racist places there are. It's true. And, um, it's a different culture there and people don't

00:25:16.900 understand it. And so like, I understand that, you know, there's some bad history there,

00:25:22.120 but do we learn from history? We get better from history. It's important to remember things that

00:25:27.120 are not so good about history so that we don't repeat them again and again and again.

00:25:32.220 Yeah. History should, some of our past should be painful and it should be evident how painful it was

00:25:38.380 because if we pretend like it was some sort of utopia or strip away anything that may have been

00:25:43.540 painful, I think it's a whole lot easier to step into the same mistakes that we made 200,

00:25:49.640 300, 300, 400, 500 years ago, bro. This is just a reflection of what we've had for the last 20

00:25:54.200 years and the last 25 years with a failed parenting strategy of zero accountability. You know, we

00:25:59.380 don't spank our kids. We don't punish our kids. We don't, uh, have them be accountable for their own

00:26:03.800 actions, their words, whatever they choose. Um, when they get in trouble at school, you know,

00:26:08.160 parents are up there defending their kid instead of asking the principal, what really happened?

00:26:11.560 Yeah. What'd you do? Right. There's like all these things and you know, um, that we don't do

00:26:19.120 anymore and it creates, we get 17th place trophies, you know, everybody's special, you know, and then

00:26:24.800 when kids get out and they get into, to the real world and they realize, holy fuck, dude, um, this is

00:26:30.020 not what mom and dad said it was. Now they think the world's fucked up. You know what I'm saying?

00:26:35.200 Right. So cause it couldn't possibly be them. Exactly. Nobody ever told them they did anything wrong.

00:26:39.560 No, they didn't though. They really didn't. No one ever told them, right. This was actually the

00:26:44.540 way it is. Right. So there's a level of literal ignorance there that we're, we're seeing and

00:26:51.160 that's a big problem. It needs to be addressed. And, and, uh, it's scary to watch. It's sad to watch

00:26:56.540 too. Well, you know, the other thing too is, and I, and I, I feel this way. I feel like kids,

00:27:02.540 children, whether they're adults or not are dictating the tone of the conversation and the,

00:27:09.360 the adults in the room are like afraid to scold the children. Like, why are we letting 20 year

00:27:14.640 old kids who know nothing about life? And look, I'm, I'm 38. I'm not old by any means,

00:27:19.300 but we're letting 20 more years life experience than a 20 year old. And we're letting them dictate

00:27:23.960 the tone of the conversation. Are you kidding me? They know nothing about life. Well, that's why a

00:27:28.560 lot of them are going to jail for 10 years now for tearing up the shit that they did. You know,

00:27:32.960 like, dude, like you saw the, the, you saw the leader of chop, right? Yeah. Crying, crying and

00:27:37.240 shit. Yeah. That's what you get, bro. You touch the hot stove, you get fucking burned, which I don't

00:27:42.560 have any sympathy for those people. No. And like they, you could, you could sit there and say,

00:27:47.080 oh, well, they were ignorant. They weren't taught right. And you could put all the blame on the,

00:27:50.120 on the, on the system. But at the end of the day, they're still accountable. And it doesn't just

00:27:54.940 because they didn't learn, doesn't absolve them of the consequences of their choices,

00:27:58.820 especially when it impacts other people. For the first time in history, dude, of these people's

00:28:03.320 lives, they're, they're being held accountable now for things that they did and they don't

00:28:06.980 fucking like it. Yeah. Well, this, this is how it works. Like this is why you cannot just say and do

00:28:16.220 and act as you please in the real world. Because if you tear down shit and break the fucking law,

00:28:23.380 I mean, look, everybody has to agree, regardless of reviews, there has to be law and order.

00:28:27.400 Right. It has to be. Otherwise there'd be chaos. Right. And we're seeing that actually. Like you

00:28:31.620 look at New York, for example, in Chicago, and you look at these places, it's brutal. It's, it's,

00:28:37.180 and, and no one's talking about it. Nope. Because you know what? If you do, it's racist. Right.

00:28:41.500 Because it's fucking bullshit. Yeah. It's not racist. It's, we are seeing what happens when you get

00:28:46.880 your way and it doesn't work. And so people have to be able to admit like, well, that doesn't work.

00:28:54.160 So what does work? Well, I'm going to tell you what doesn't work is it doesn't work to fucking

00:28:58.720 not pay the fucking police officers a good wage because you attract shit balls. When you attract

00:29:03.940 shit balls, shit balls abuse their power and they fuck with people. I've had that experience. You've

00:29:08.560 probably had that experience. And most people have had an experience with a bad cop. True. Okay. But

00:29:14.120 if we really want those experiences to be minimized, what would we have to do? We would have to create a

00:29:19.420 position that was more honorable and actually provided a better career path for these people

00:29:24.940 so that we could attract the right kind of people to do the job. Right. It's completely the opposite

00:29:29.240 of defund the police. Right. Um, they're already underfunded. That's the problem. That's the

00:29:33.380 problem. That's why there's no training. There's no ramifications or consequences. Let's be real.

00:29:41.400 This is what the fuck they wanted. Okay. Why do you think they replace, release all the prisoners

00:29:46.120 in fucking March because they knew that it was going to create the summer of fucking

00:29:50.360 destruction. Okay. And now we're in a scenario where, you know, like those same people who

00:29:57.440 let those prisoners out, which I said fucking three or four months ago on the air in public,

00:30:03.500 they let these motherfuckers out and now they're out fucking doing what they do. Right. And everybody's

00:30:09.680 like, Oh, I'm so surprised. Yeah. What are you surprised about these people? This

00:30:16.020 is these people, these Democrat people let these people out of jail. They knew that those

00:30:22.920 people were going to create crime. These are the same people that didn't, didn't enforce

00:30:27.840 the law, didn't allow the police to enforce the law. Why did they do that? Oh. And then

00:30:32.120 why do you see the same people running ads right now? Sit talking about the state of our current

00:30:36.880 events and blaming on Trump. This is all political dude. And anybody who sees, who sees it any other

00:30:42.260 way, they're not seeing it. It's just, it is what it is. You, you know, if masks really work,

00:30:47.180 why the fuck they let the prisoners out? Yeah. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, dude, this

00:30:52.520 is, it's, it's hard to watch, man. It's hard for me to watch and have people, I mean, they're

00:31:02.040 fucking terrified, dude. They're, they're making bad decisions personally. They're depressed. Dude,

00:31:07.860 suicide rates are up. Depression rates are through fucking roof. I'm sure alcohol, drug abuse. I'm

00:31:13.860 sure all of that is just rough. We've been completely blindsided by people that we should

00:31:18.780 be able to trust. And bro, it's fucked up. It just is. So, you know, the, one of the things that we

00:31:25.220 were talking about earlier and that I liked, I think you actually said this on a podcast the other day

00:31:28.700 is your level of awareness with your influence at this point. Like you knew you were inspiring,

00:31:35.820 lifting people up, but it's like, it seems to me you're at a different level and I can appreciate

00:31:40.300 that you've taken responsibility of that and said, Hey, the way I live my life is very important

00:31:44.400 because I have a responsibility for other people who are listening to the words you're saying and

00:31:48.620 how you behave and how you act. Yeah. I'm starting, you know, I think that's just me becoming more

00:31:53.220 mature to be honest. Um, I'm usually in maturity. I'm way behind. Let's be real. Uh, like I still

00:31:58.560 think fart jokes are the funniest shit. Yeah. I don't think we ever outgrow that. So like I'm a,

00:32:03.220 I'm a, you know, I'm a young guy in my brain, you know? And so a lot of what, um, you know,

00:32:09.820 up until maybe a couple of years ago, a lot of what I've done in life has been to serve myself.

00:32:14.340 And what I've started to realize through really through the 75 hard program for the last basically

00:32:19.840 year and a half, two years is that, uh, people really pay attention and, um, you know,

00:32:27.460 for better or worse. Yeah. Right. Like, but, but what's cool is, is like what I've seen is,

00:32:33.320 is because dude, I've been on this program pretty much the whole time for the last, you know, I've

00:32:38.020 had some, a couple of months off here and there, but, um, it's really cool because people are starting

00:32:44.280 to understand, um, the concept of being accountable to yourself for the benefit of others. And I think

00:32:52.680 that's something that I'm really proud of myself for, uh, because that having becoming aware of

00:32:59.280 that is something that, um, you know, like, dude, I think as leaders, we always discredit ourselves.

00:33:05.040 We all like, everybody thinks like, if you're a leader that you, you probably have like over,

00:33:09.420 like overconfidence. Right. Um, but that's really not true. I think if you're a great leader,

00:33:14.980 you really are critical of yourself to, to examine yourself every single day.

00:33:19.580 That's a good point. I think a lot of, a lot of people might assume, cause they've had bad leaders

00:33:23.900 in their lives, that leadership is about some sort of like false bravado. That's right. And that's

00:33:28.200 the antithesis of being an effective leader. Absolutely. Absolutely. They, they see the leader

00:33:33.520 as, you know, and dude, I'm guilty to paying into that stereotype because I am a loud, like sort of

00:33:40.620 opinionated person. Um, but what they're seeing is just a glimpse of my personality. You know what I

00:33:48.360 mean? And so what I've, what I've learned over the last couple of years, and I appreciate you

00:33:52.600 recognizing it, um, really so much more this year. This is the reason I stopped posting static posts

00:33:59.160 on Instagram was cause I realized I started to go, I was starting to go through an awakening myself

00:34:04.180 where, where like, you know, before I'm like, and dude, I know this sounds ridiculous because

00:34:09.260 dude, even before the last few months, I had the number one podcast in the world for fucking 14

00:34:13.780 months. Right. So, you know, I know it sounds ridiculous, right? Like it sounds like, how could

00:34:18.920 you get any better? Yeah. Have you already figured it out? You can't, but that's the point, right?

00:34:23.540 Like we're always trying to progress and we're always trying to improve. We're always trying to

00:34:26.440 get better. And what I realized is like, um, when I'm living my life the right way and I'm becoming

00:34:32.680 the best I can, that lifts everybody up. So my ability to stay disciplined is now that much

00:34:41.580 stronger because I realized it's not me. It's not like about looking good at the pool. It's about

00:34:48.060 performing at a high level so that like, you know, these young men who are here, we're here in a room

00:34:53.340 with us and all these other young people you see walking around and all the people that watch on

00:34:57.620 Instagram and listen on, on audio and podcast so that they, they could see what it looks like to

00:35:03.560 actually be doing the work. Right. You know, right. Um, see somebody actually going through it in real

00:35:08.040 time. Yes. And, and so I realized that's very powerful because I, you know, there's only a few

00:35:13.880 people that really do that. And so it's cool, man. It feels good. Um, it feels good to become aware of

00:35:20.400 that, of, of, of that responsibility because that pressure actually makes it a lot easier to do shit

00:35:26.000 when I don't want to, you know? Yeah. You know, the other side I thought about too on this is

00:35:30.440 there's this, there's this imposter syndrome that a lot of people have, right? Like I actually hear

00:35:35.020 from people who are like, Hey, I want to start a podcast like yours. And I just feel like, you know,

00:35:38.940 I'm not an expert. I'm like, bro, you don't need to be an expert. You just need to tell people that

00:35:44.000 here's what you're doing and here's where you want to go. And then don't lie to them. Just say,

00:35:49.820 here's where I am. And I want to take you on my journey. Do you want to do it together?

00:35:54.500 And so we have this, this awesome opportunity with podcast and technology that we don't have to

00:36:01.400 leverage ourselves as some sort of fake leader. It's just, Hey, I'm on this path. Who wants to

00:36:05.760 walk this path? That's right. And that's it. And people like that too. Yes. Because the one,

00:36:09.880 the one comment I get about 75 hard, which is really cool is that I get this over and over and

00:36:15.960 over again. Um, is like, dude, it's so cool knowing that like when, when I didn't want to do my workout,

00:36:24.060 I can look on my Instagram and see you that you did yours. Yeah. And I was like, and, and they,

00:36:30.140 like a lot of people are like, well, that makes me like, I feel like when I feel powerful,

00:36:34.300 that's how you feel. And I'm like, well, that is how I feel. That's why I'm doing it with you.

00:36:38.080 Because I know that if I'm the best I can be, that's only going to benefit all these other

00:36:42.840 people too. Yeah. And, and, and, and indirectly fulfill my mission selfishly. Right. Yeah. So,

00:36:50.260 and there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. And you say that, and, and I don't, I don't think

00:36:53.820 you're saying it with a negative or connotation, but everybody will hear it that way.

00:36:57.480 Intense. Right. You, you're a liar if you don't. Right. Like, like I talk all the time about,

00:37:02.740 you know, being of service, being of service, being of service, but everybody likes what comes

00:37:06.880 as the result of being of service. You feel good shit. Like you have meaning. That's right. Purpose

00:37:11.780 to your life. That's right. And so there's a, even when you give, there's still a selfish aspect of

00:37:16.160 giving, but the truth is, is it's about the end result. What did you create? Yeah. Create a good

00:37:20.700 situation or a bad one. And so I, I think it's okay. Um, you know, everybody likes to criticize

00:37:26.260 everything. Right. And like, I see this a lot. Like people will say, well, you just did that nice

00:37:30.620 thing so that it could be on Instagram. Yeah. Some people do that. Okay. I get it. Some people

00:37:35.140 do that. I don't do that. Yeah. Um, I don't post most of that shit, obviously less than 1% of it,

00:37:40.860 but isn't there also a counter argument to that, that if we don't show it, then people don't know

00:37:47.080 how to do it. You can be influential and inspire, you know, potentially you do this nice thing for

00:37:52.860 somebody and share it. Potentially you inspire somebody else to do something nice for somebody

00:37:56.700 else. Yeah. And that's, that's what I'm saying. And we're so quick to attack each other on every

00:38:01.420 little thing. I don't know why that is. I don't know why it is. I think, I think what it is, is

00:38:07.320 people do that so they can absolve themselves of their own personal work. Right. So, cause we fall

00:38:16.320 into the comparison trap. So if we're, I'm looking at you and I'm like, well, what's Andy doing?

00:38:20.180 And where am I? And how do I stack up against him? The only way for me to get ahead is to do

00:38:24.440 one of two things is to get better, work my ass off and get better or push you away. And it's way

00:38:29.840 easier to push you down than it is to work my ass off and get up ahead. So I think it stems from the

00:38:34.020 comparison trap. Yeah. Yeah. Which is unfortunate because they're really comparing, comparing yourself

00:38:40.420 to anybody, but who you were yesterday is a, is a, is a, is a dark path. You're going to be,

00:38:46.200 you're going to, cause dude, there's always going to be that person who is better than you at

00:38:49.880 whatever it is you're trying to be great at. And we're all different. Like, so I admire what

00:38:54.880 you've built with this. Yeah. And, but you know what, frankly, I don't want to build this.

00:38:59.180 That's right. I get it. And it, and it doesn't mean you're wrong. No, it doesn't mean that I

00:39:03.860 think you're, what you're doing is cool. I'm like, fuck this. So I get it. Like it's different

00:39:09.060 for everybody. Right. And if I compare myself and say, well, the only way I can be successful

00:39:13.660 is, or I can't be successful until I have my own 200,000 square foot facility. Right.

00:39:19.860 And I, and I'm doing hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue. Right. Then I'm going

00:39:23.080 to feel like shit for the rest of my life because I'm not going to work towards this. Right.

00:39:27.340 Cause it's not the path I want to go. Ed, Ed talks about this all at my let. Yeah.

00:39:31.440 It talks about this all the time, dude. Did you know that I listened to Ed? Let me think

00:39:37.020 about the timeframe here. I've been listening to him for 15 years. Cause I used to, I in the

00:39:42.880 financial planning business. I started with the world financial group and I would listen

00:39:47.060 to his CDs on the way to appointments and hear him. And, and my wife said, man, you sound

00:39:52.280 like Ed. This was like 15 years ago. Anyways, I interrupted. Dude, he's one of the greats,

00:39:56.420 man. Yeah, for sure. He's one of the greats. Uh, you know, a lot of people talk about Tony

00:40:00.860 Robbins as the great, you know, and Tony is great. Ed's great too. Yeah. Ed's powerful.

00:40:05.680 Yeah. But, uh, but he says that all the time, man. And, and one of the cool things about

00:40:10.500 being good friends with him. Cause he's outside of people who work in this building, he's

00:40:14.280 probably my best friend. And, um, you know, the, what they, he'll always, he he'll call

00:40:19.020 you out on it too. He's like, bro, you're comparing, you're comparing yourself because

00:40:22.340 I'm competitive. Right. Right. Like I come from a sports background, sports upbringing.

00:40:26.600 I want to fucking win. And sometimes dude, what I found is that when I'm doing that, when

00:40:31.140 I'm trying to beat someone else, instead of being better on my own, I'm fucking super unhappy

00:40:35.280 all the time. Like super unhappy. Yeah. Because like, dude, if I'm already, like, if I'm comparing

00:40:40.420 myself to someone who's better than me at what I do, which, you know, there's less and

00:40:45.080 less of those every day, but that's the point. Right. Right. Um, like if I go to compare myself

00:40:49.880 to Phil Knight, all right. Who's been doing it since fucking it's been done, you know what

00:40:54.840 I'm saying? Like could basically created it. Right. Exactly. Like I can't, that's not a fair

00:40:59.720 comparison at all, but because I'm so competitive and I'm so driven, that's where I

00:41:05.160 like, I don't drive my, I don't derive my comparisons from like, I never compare myself

00:41:10.780 to someone who's doing less than me ever. Right. I always compare myself to people who

00:41:15.500 are doing fucking way better. And part, I think that serves you partly, right? I think

00:41:20.700 so. Yeah, for sure. There's a part that shows you what's possible. That's right. But you

00:41:24.200 have to be able to delineate when it crosses over into a toxic situation. And that's something

00:41:30.340 that I struggled with for a long time. Uh, honestly, before I met Ed, uh, and since I've

00:41:35.700 become such good friends with Ed now, you know, he, he's kind of driven that into my brain

00:41:39.580 and it's helped me dude. Cause like I'm happier because of it. And I don't feel threatened by

00:41:43.920 other people. Like I don't like, dude, I'm an RTA dude. I teach every fucking thing that

00:41:47.540 I know about business to fucking people who are in the same business as me. Right. You

00:41:51.420 know, like I'm not threatened by that. Cause I know that if they win, that's not our customers,

00:41:56.180 that's their customers. You know what I mean? Like that's. And even still like how it's,

00:42:00.920 I don't even think it's possible for you. I actually heard a story about you and I don't,

00:42:05.620 I don't, I don't know if you knew that I knew this, but, um, Jocko, he's got his supplement

00:42:11.440 company with origin. Right. And I know you're familiar with them. Yeah. And my good friend

00:42:16.500 is Pete Roberts. That's Jocko's business partner. Okay. And, uh, I can't remember if Jocko told

00:42:22.280 me or he told me that you had talked about their supplements and offering their supplements

00:42:27.220 in your store. Yeah. And I was like, why wouldn't I do that? I was so, I was impressed. I was like,

00:42:33.560 he's got his own and he's got, he's going to offer his own another supplement in his store. I was

00:42:38.460 thinking that was pretty cool. And that goes into what you're saying. Yeah. But that's it. But

00:42:42.180 that's, that's the, that's the reality, bro. Is like, if you become accustomed and comfortable

00:42:49.680 rooting for other people to win, you'll always win. Yeah. You always win. Right. So like I,

00:42:55.860 there's zero now 10 years ago, that was not the case with me. I hated everybody I competed with

00:43:02.440 and do that created a toxic environment. Now it was good for, for business at that time,

00:43:06.740 because I needed that shit, you know? And I still think there's a very strong need to drive energy

00:43:11.980 from the dark side. That's a real shit. I think there's a little bit, any, any successful person I've

00:43:17.540 met, I've actually been not surprised, but just aware of this, that there seems to be a little

00:43:22.280 bit of a chip on the shoulder. Oh yeah. You got to have a chip. Yeah. That's reality because you're

00:43:26.500 going to get shit on. Dude, I got shit. I get shit. I still get shit on every fucking day by people

00:43:30.360 bigger than me. And I remember it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But, uh, which is good. It's

00:43:34.580 fuel. Absolutely. But I, that doesn't mean I make that doesn't now back in the day, that would be

00:43:39.680 like, I'd be like, fuck that guy forever. You know, now I just look at it like, yeah, they just don't see

00:43:44.940 me yet. You know what I'm saying? Right. And, and so I, I don't like root for someone to lose

00:43:50.540 because they don't recognize me yet. And that's what we have in business a lot, right? Like people

00:43:56.080 want attention from certain companies or certain, you know, gurus or certain celebrities or owners

00:44:02.360 or CEOs. And if they don't give them the proper attention, then they're like, fuck him. He's arrogant.

00:44:07.280 He's this personal. Maybe he's just fucking focused on himself. He's just busy as fuck. That's right.

00:44:12.700 Maybe you have no comprehension of what his life is actually like.

00:44:17.640 Hey gents, I know the conversation is good. I just got to hit the pause button really,

00:44:21.540 really quickly because I want you to, I want to make you aware of something. Um, a couple of weeks

00:44:25.200 ago, we launched our 30 days to battle ready program, uh, which is designed to teach you the

00:44:30.720 framework for success over the next 30 days. Uh, and this actually could work very nicely in

00:44:36.500 conjunction with the 75 hard program. But when you sign up for 30 days to battle ready, it's free.

00:44:41.860 So you don't need to worry about paying for it. Um, you're going to get access to a series of emails,

00:44:45.660 which is not a goal, not only going to outline the process, but it's going to challenge you to

00:44:51.320 complete a series of steps that will, I believe radically alter your life. This isn't some cheap

00:44:57.500 email course that everybody puts out. This is literally the result of six years of trial and

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00:45:09.960 discontent, even to the slightest with where you are in your relationships, your finances,

00:45:14.300 your health, any area of your life, frankly, then commit to implementing this program over the next

00:45:19.500 30 days, uh, dive in headfirst and change your life. You can do that at order of man.com slash

00:45:26.880 battle ready. And when you sign up, you're immediately going to get another email and you're

00:45:30.480 going to be on the path again, order of man.com slash battle ready. Get signed up after the

00:45:34.540 conversation for an alpha and finish it up with Andy. I used to do that in the podcast. I would

00:45:40.640 invite people to come on the podcast and certain people I wouldn't hear from. Yeah. And I used to

00:45:45.480 think, Oh, what a dick, what big league. Yep. And I heard that term from you originally. Yeah. What a

00:45:50.060 dick, what an asshole. Why wouldn't you just respond? And now I'm like, no, wait, maybe he's sifting

00:45:55.400 through literally a thousand plus emails. Yeah. Maybe he just got hit up 700 times for another podcast.

00:46:02.880 It's not personal. The difference between you now and you then back four or five years ago when we

00:46:09.160 first met or whatever it was, is that you've grown so much. Now you're so fucking busy. You

00:46:13.800 understand that. Of course. So that's, I get it. Right. My friend, Aaron Wagner has a great saying

00:46:18.440 and I love it. It's so good. It's a busy people understand busy people. Right. Yeah. We don't have

00:46:24.100 to apologize. Like if he texts me and I'll text him back for three or four days and isn't like, Hey man,

00:46:29.640 I just saw, we don't make up some, some bullshit story. Right. Like, Oh, I had this typed up and

00:46:34.200 I didn't, I fucking forgot to send it. Yeah. It's like, well, we just say, just say it is what

00:46:37.980 it is. Hey bro. Sorry. I was busy. And I just remembered this. Yeah. Well, you, I don't know if

00:46:42.400 you remember, this was a couple of weeks ago or a month ago I had reached out and I'm like, Hey man,

00:46:46.480 let's reschedule that podcast. Cause we were going to do it and we couldn't do it for whatever reason.

00:46:49.860 And you're like, Hey, email here. Yeah. And, um, and, and we'll get something scheduled.

00:46:56.060 Yeah. Yeah. And that's not something I would normally do to you. No. Like we're friends,

00:46:59.620 but I didn't take it that way. And then you wrote back, you're like, Hey, it's just easier. I'm like,

00:47:03.880 no problem. Dude. Like I have no problem whatsoever. But you'd be surprised. You'd be surprised

00:47:08.820 at some big names who get really fucking pissed off if I don't handle the shit myself. I get it.

00:47:14.720 I'm like, it's like, bro, he doesn't need to be scheduling podcasts. Dude. I'll be honest with

00:47:18.480 you, Ryan. I like, I forgot you were going to fucking be here until I fucking was standing down

00:47:23.400 there and I saw you up here. Yeah. And it's not because I don't value you. Right. I saw you up

00:47:28.720 here. I was like, fuck yeah, dude. All right. I was excited. But the point is, is like, dude,

00:47:33.820 we're all caught up in our own shit. And if you're not caught up in your own shit, you ain't doing

00:47:36.800 enough shit. Yeah. Get, get busy. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And, and, and you young bucks out there listening

00:47:41.620 to this podcast. I think you guys could do yourselves a big service by understanding this

00:47:45.540 early on that it's not personal. It's not a personal thing. You know, just because you don't

00:47:51.060 get an email back or just because you don't get on someone's show. Right. You know, a lot of people

00:47:54.820 will reach out and say, they want to be on my show. Well, because of where my show is, there has,

00:48:00.960 I can't say yes to every single guest. Like I would love to man. Of course. But you've got to like

00:48:05.900 have done something to talk about. Right. Like I would love to, I would love to just put random

00:48:11.480 dudes on us, just talk shit, but that's not going to produce a good show. There's got to be

00:48:16.060 something. So, you know, we all have to sort of be realistic about where we are in life. You know

00:48:21.280 what I mean? And I understand that like, if I call fucking Phil Knight, guess what? He probably

00:48:26.400 ain't taking Andy for sell his fucking phone call. And I'm not going to be like, Oh, fuck Phil

00:48:30.360 Knight. You know what I mean? Like I, he hates me, dude. He doesn't even know you. He doesn't hate

00:48:35.100 you. I promise. And I think a lot of the young guys right now, trying to young guys and girls,

00:48:39.120 mostly guys on this show. Um, I think they get really hurt quick in business because nobody

00:48:46.000 respects them right away, bro. Nobody's going to respect you right away or ever. Like, like even

00:48:51.640 now I'm, I'm to this point now where the names are the guys that I used to reach out before.

00:48:55.980 Most of them at this point would say yes. And so then you move on to different people. Right.

00:49:00.480 And I still get turned down every day. People ignore me. They, they say, no, I can't do it

00:49:07.020 or I'm not going to do it every day. It doesn't go away. It's the same for us. Like there's

00:49:10.820 people I want on the show that just, they can't do the show. You know what I'm saying? Like

00:49:14.440 dude, I would love to have the rock on the fucking show. Yeah, of course. Yeah. But at

00:49:18.460 this point and where he's at in his life, I would have to literally pay 500 grand, which

00:49:24.280 I might do to have him on the fucking show. And people would say, well, that's just him

00:49:28.720 being, no, it's not. It's actually supply and demand. It's priorities. He's got, yeah.

00:49:32.620 And people are like, well, why has it got to be so much? Well, because that's what a

00:49:35.620 fucking hour of his time is worth. He could be doing something else. That's right. Yeah.

00:49:38.800 And dude, you know, that's another thing like for young bucks to give you another tip.

00:49:42.500 Don't ever tell someone you would take them out for fucking coffee. If they've actually

00:49:45.440 done something in real life, their brain. Yeah. Don't tell them you want to take them out

00:49:48.760 for coffee or take them out to eat and pick their brain ever. Let me tell you why, because

00:49:53.420 I've worked fucking 20 something years to gain all this shit. And you're trying to tell

00:49:58.080 me it's worth a cup of coffee and it ain't right. So let's be real. That's a terrible

00:50:03.660 strategy for people to introduce. Have you heard that? It's just a story. It's

00:50:08.420 an anecdote where there's this ship that's not running and they try to fix the ship and

00:50:13.660 they can't get it fixed. And they finally call this guy up and he comes in and he looks

00:50:18.560 at the engine and he grabs his hammer out of his bag and he taps on this little part of

00:50:22.200 the engine and it immediately starts. Well, they get an invoice in the mail later and it was

00:50:26.840 like for 10 grand. Yeah. And then, and they wrote back, they're like, you were only there

00:50:30.700 for a minute. Like, can you send us a breakdown, like an invoice of this? And he sends it back

00:50:35.640 and he says, uh, time, uh, or, or something like time $1 knowing where to hit price was

00:50:43.620 the rest of it. You know what I mean? Like, or that's what it was. It was hitting that part

00:50:48.480 with my hammer was a dollar knowing where to hit was the $9,999. And dude, you, you know,

00:50:54.140 as a young entrepreneur trying to grow shit or a young man trying to build something or

00:50:58.180 young woman trying to build something, you've got to be able to respect that. Yeah. You

00:51:02.060 have to respect it because if you don't respect that about people that are further along than

00:51:06.580 you, they won't give you the time of day. I've seen that. I think actually Emily may

00:51:11.220 have posted something kind of along the lines of what you're saying about when, when people

00:51:14.960 reach out and they say, you know, like who does your shirts? Who does your hats? Like

00:51:19.780 what, what, what manufacturing company do you use? And what, what's your supply chain?

00:51:24.860 It's like you've spent literally millions of dollars and years and years figuring that

00:51:31.600 out. Why would you got to earn it? Those people shouldn't be in business. That's it. And

00:51:36.440 like right now we have, and dude, you know, those people get mad when you don't tell them

00:51:40.080 to, like, why would you, I get that all the time. I get people asking me like, Hey bro,

00:51:44.340 how, where'd you get this? Or where'd you get that? Or where do you source this or that?

00:51:47.500 I'm like, why the fuck would I tell you? Right. Like I, that's my fucking. And you,

00:51:54.220 and you pay, I think you got a sign out there that says pays your dues. You paid the dues

00:51:57.380 for that. Now I'll show you how to do that. I'll show you how to make the call. I'm not

00:52:01.780 probably, I'll probably point you in the right direction. I'll tell you exactly how I did

00:52:04.420 it, but I'm not giving you the names and numbers of all my people. That's not what this

00:52:09.080 is about. Yeah. And by the way, if I did that, I'd be doing you a disservice. You know why?

00:52:12.900 Because you won't learn the skills that you need to know to procure your own source

00:52:16.440 for your own shit, which is going to handicap you down the road.

00:52:19.420 Well, and I, I think I'd, I'd be willing to bet that the people who ask those type of

00:52:23.640 questions aren't going to make the followup call anyways. It's the people who don't ask

00:52:29.000 that, that, that actually would do the right thing with that information, but they're not

00:52:33.800 asking for it. They're figuring it out. That's right. Those people, they, those people who do,

00:52:37.940 who look for that quick thing, they're, they're on something else next week. It's not even a,

00:52:42.140 it's not even a conversation. Dude, I don't even answer fucking DMS about it anymore. Like when the

00:52:46.220 people write me that shit, I just give them a note, I leave them on read.

00:52:49.120 It's they've, they're, they've indicated that they're consumers. They're not producers.

00:52:54.540 That's right. Right. They'll consume your time and your resources, but they won't produce any

00:52:58.800 value in exchange. Now in RTA, it's a little bit different because people apply to be in.

00:53:03.660 That's what we talk, you know, they pay to be in, right. It's a little bit different.

00:53:07.360 They're investing, they're producing. They have to be at a certain level to get in,

00:53:10.240 et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. That's a little bit different, but you know,

00:53:13.080 that's a plague right now. People think that they can just, you know, I, I should just divulge all

00:53:18.620 my shit to you because I tell you a bunch of shit on podcasts. That's like giving someone an inch

00:53:23.140 and then wanting a mile. Right. You know, like, it is funny when you hear somebody who will ask you

00:53:28.000 a specific question and, and you'll say like, well, here, read my book or do 75 hard. And you're

00:53:34.740 like, Oh no, I, no, I don't want, I, I just wanted this information. Well, it's all there.

00:53:39.340 Yeah. Just do that. Well, but isn't there anything else? No. Yeah. There's nothing else.

00:53:44.960 Like it's all right here. I think the thing was 75 hard that a lot of people probably fall into.

00:53:50.420 Maybe we'll talk about that just in case somebody doesn't know what that is. Um, is, is they think

00:53:56.200 because it's so simple that it, it just doesn't work. It's stupid. It's a simple. It's like, Oh,

00:54:02.260 you'd read a few pages and drink some water. Yeah. That's stupid. That doesn't work. Yeah. Yeah.

00:54:06.200 I mean, dude, do you hear that? Yeah. Fuck. I hear it all the time, especially from fitness

00:54:09.680 experts. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like a lot of fitness experts, they think, you know,

00:54:13.660 because they see it as a fitness program. It's not a fitness program. It's a mental toughness

00:54:17.700 program. It's a program that is designed to create the, the, the, the, the traits that you

00:54:24.880 are responsible for creating. A lot of people think the traits are something that you're born with when

00:54:29.820 in reality, it's something that you're supposed to develop. And so, you know, when it comes to things

00:54:34.680 like confidence, belief, you know, fortitude grit, they look at people who have those things and

00:54:40.080 they think, well, fuck, I could never be like that. You know, I could never be tough. I could

00:54:44.540 never be this. I could never do that. And they think that those people are born with those. And

00:54:49.200 so what they do is they give up hope. Like I could never be someone who believes in myself. I could

00:54:53.460 never be someone who's confident. I could never be someone with fortitude to do hard things. I could

00:54:58.780 never be a disciplined human. Cause that's not who I am. That's what we hear all the time.

00:55:02.700 Do you think they do that? Like subconsciously? Or do you think it's a conscious decision to be

00:55:07.900 like, well, I'm just wondering if they do it so they can excuse themselves of doing work. Like,

00:55:12.620 oh, it's not for me. Well, maybe some people would think about the dialogue that's had around

00:55:16.640 these traits. The dialogue around these traits is never like, oh man, David Goggins built himself

00:55:24.480 into a disciplined motherfucker. That's not what the fuck is told. Right. What's what's said is

00:55:29.160 look at Goggins. He's disciplined. He's a badass. He's bad as fuck. Right. And people think that

00:55:33.560 he's born that way. Dude, if you ask David himself, he'll tell you he's never, he created

00:55:37.720 that. Right. He, that's his whole fucking thing. And he's trying to tell you guys and you're not

00:55:41.940 even listening. This can all be created. So yeah, I do get people that oversimplify it and think

00:55:47.540 like, oh, well, but dude, it's not meant for those people. What's meant for, it's meant for people

00:55:51.780 who want to get to an elite level mentally. That's it. Yeah. If you want to get in shape,

00:55:55.940 there's easier ways to get in shape. If you want to fucking, uh, you know, do something

00:56:00.820 else, do something else. But if you want to become elite mentally, if you want to become

00:56:05.380 someone who understands how to turn on it. Okay. At any given time, it being that superpower

00:56:14.520 that puts you in the zone where you're able to create, you're able to get shit done. You're

00:56:18.400 able to do your workouts. You're able to be mentally crisp and sharp and become that person

00:56:23.500 that you know, you're, you are, but just aren't being that's what 75 hearts about. Right. Right.

00:56:29.420 And, and so like, you know, of course there's critics, but I don't pay them any mind, you know,

00:56:36.100 cause they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Well, I, you know, that, and that's the

00:56:40.140 point. Like, I think if you're going to critique something, whether it's a movie or a program,

00:56:45.000 you probably should know what you're talking about first. And then if you do it and you're like,

00:56:49.940 no, it's stupid. Okay. Well let's hear about it. Yeah. Cause at least you've got some credibility.

00:56:54.040 And let me see your fucking progress pictures for the 75 days. So I know that you fucking did it.

00:56:57.980 You actually did it. Oh wait, somebody thought that through, didn't they?

00:57:01.300 Right. Yeah. Good point. Yeah. Right. I'm excited to get the book. I, uh, I'm proud to say I was one

00:57:06.700 of the, the people who got it in the 87 minutes or whatever that sold out. Yeah. I would have like

00:57:10.960 just signed one for you and gave it to you here. No, I'm still going to, so here's another,

00:57:16.520 I appreciate that though. But here's another tip. I don't ask for shit from my friends. I don't

00:57:21.380 either. Like, I'm not going to ask you for supplements. I'm not going to ask you for a

00:57:24.620 book. I'm not going to ask you to hook me up with some swag. Yeah. I'm going to go support you. Yeah.

00:57:29.660 And I'm going to, I'm the same way, bro. I'm a hundred percent that way. I, I only really fuck

00:57:34.520 with people that are like that. You know what I mean? Like all my best friends, they're customers of

00:57:39.020 mine too. And they should be. And guess what? I'm customers of theirs. And that's how it should be.

00:57:43.680 I'm saying like, you believe me in me, like help me. Yeah, bro. That's a, that's a, that's a entry

00:57:48.620 level mentality, entry level mentality of, you know, Oh dude, you don't hook me up. Yeah. That's

00:57:54.720 entry level. I had this guy professional. I had this guy, um, back country, back country box or

00:58:00.440 fuel box, something like that. He reached out to me and, and we had been connected for a while and

00:58:04.380 he's like, Hey man, can I send you some of these? We're just trying to launch the thing. I'm like,

00:58:07.120 yeah, yeah. Send me some stuff. And I took some like Instagram stories and, and, and shouted them

00:58:12.840 out. Like I'm trying to help them. Right. And, uh, and then I, I sent a message back. I'm like,

00:58:17.860 Hey, I love this box. Very cool. Like, what can I do to help? And he wrote something back that was

00:58:22.520 so telling. He's like, I've sent these boxes to 200 plus people. You're the only person that said,

00:58:28.980 what can I do to help? I'm like, are you serious? Yeah. Like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't

00:58:34.900 get that. But look, I think that's part of the reason that guys like you and me have had the

00:58:39.240 success that we have is because it's not about getting, it's about giving. Yeah. Right. Like

00:58:44.760 how much value can I possibly give you? I look around at this place and I see how amazing this

00:58:50.080 is. I see your studio. I see your attention to detail. And I'm like, Oh, this isn't about a shrine

00:58:55.620 to Andy. This is about how can we serve our community? That's right. And so you make it this

00:59:00.180 way to honor the people you're trying to serve, not for yourself. Correct. We wanted to create a

00:59:04.800 tool that would allow our team to better serve our mission, which we've done. Yeah. No doubt.

00:59:11.900 Yeah. This building here, uh, when people get to see it and see what it's about. And once they

00:59:16.840 start understanding it, this, this building will change the way business is actually done. People will

00:59:22.420 write, there will be books written, not by me about this building because of how it facilitates

00:59:29.320 the, the way that people learn about your company and become fans of your company.

00:59:36.560 So are there some, I know you probably can't get into all the details, but like, are there certain

00:59:40.620 specifics within the building or the infrastructure that you're like, okay, we did this reason because

00:59:45.420 this is why we did it. There's not certain things, literally everything, every fucking thing in this

00:59:52.120 building was thought through for that regard. Every fucking thing. Like if, when you and I get out

00:59:57.320 of here, if we walk through here, I'll be able to point to you. That's why we did that. That's why we

01:00:01.140 did this. That's why we did this. That's what we did this. That's what everything is designed for a

01:00:05.120 fucking reason. And, uh, that reason is to help people become better. That reason is to help people

01:00:11.200 feel comfortable with taking on things that aren't comfortable. All right. Because dude,

01:00:17.360 comfort is what kills us all. Yeah, that's the truth. We, we, we all love comfort. I fucking love

01:00:22.400 comfort. I love luxury. I love nice shit. I love great hotel rooms. I love awesome houses, but dude,

01:00:28.580 I have, because I love all that shit and that's how I live my life. Cause dude, I'm not living like I

01:00:32.740 used to live. You know what I'm saying? I'm living like literally 0.00001% of people get to live.

01:00:38.520 So what do I have to do to make sure I don't get lazy? I have to make myself

01:00:42.260 fucking uncomfortable every day. Yeah. It'd be easy for you to fall into a trap of like

01:00:46.660 complacency and not having to push as hard. But look at this though. When I was 350 pounds,

01:00:52.980 I was living in a fucking 1800 square foot house. You think that's an accident? Yeah,

01:00:58.940 of course not. No. Yeah. So it's a totally different, it's a totally different. Andy is what it is.

01:01:06.300 Um, and a lot of people are putting the prize before the work, right? They think like, Oh dude,

01:01:12.220 when I get that nice office, then I'll become this personal machine. No motherfucker. You got to

01:01:17.560 take care of you first, then other shit flows from you. And so people have that backwards,

01:01:23.080 don't they? Oh yeah. Cause I'm sure people say things like, Oh well, yeah. If I had that gym or if I

01:01:27.780 had that, whatever. Yeah. Motherfucker. I started this shit 20 years ago, 21 years ago,

01:01:32.620 literally sleeping on a fucking mattress that had piss on it for real. And not my piss either.

01:01:38.540 You know what I'm saying? Like I might be able to deal with that. Like, okay, that was me. I got

01:01:42.280 fucked up. I'm okay. But it wasn't mine. All right. So I don't want to hear no shit about how

01:01:48.000 fucking nice and easy we had it. Yeah. Like if you motherfuckers knew what it really took to get

01:01:51.760 to this point, I don't think that people would even fucking believe it. Like to be completely honest.

01:01:56.460 Um, but the fact is, is, you know, I, I, I am not a gifted human. I'm a human that has done the same

01:02:06.700 things that other people have done and they've decided they're going to be different and built

01:02:10.100 themselves into those things. You know, a lot of people see me and they're like, fuck dude,

01:02:13.700 I wish I had that intensity or I wish I had that passion. I wish I had this motherfucker. I was a

01:02:19.140 pussy in high school, just so you know. And I don't know if you let that language is cool or whatever,

01:02:23.940 but I'm just telling you, dude, I was whatever the fuck that word is now. That's what I was.

01:02:28.320 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I was a big kid. Yeah. I was a good athlete,

01:02:30.980 but I was mentally soft as fuck. And I was probably mentally soft the first 10 years I was in

01:02:35.440 fucking business too, you know? And so we become the things that we need to become. We become the

01:02:41.420 things that we desire to become if we're willing to pay the price and the price is suffering.

01:02:46.740 Right. And most people aren't. So when they say I, it, what's interesting, even that phrase,

01:02:51.440 like, I wish I had what you had, you're, you're making it sound like some, someone just afforded

01:02:55.940 you the answer to your wish. It wasn't, it's like, no, I went out and took that and you can too.

01:03:01.500 Yeah. And I got to tell you this too. This is a whole nother thing. This goes for everybody

01:03:04.780 listening. All those prizes that you think are the cool shit. That ain't the cool shit.

01:03:09.100 The cool shit you can have right now. The cool shit is being able to look in the mirror and say,

01:03:13.340 dude, I'm fucking proud of you. The cool shit is being able to look in the mirror and say,

01:03:16.700 fuck yeah, motherfucker. We're kicking ass. All of you listening right now can have that.

01:03:21.960 If you keep your promises to yourself on a day by day basis, when you go to bed at night,

01:03:26.540 I'm going to tell you, dude, I have a crazy life. You know, uh, I just leave it at that. It's crazy.

01:03:32.940 All right. None of that shit matters to me. What matters to me is when I go to bed at night,

01:03:37.680 did I fucking do what I said I was going to do and how well did I do it? And if I win those two

01:03:44.160 checks, dude, I go to bed peace and I, and dude, isn't that, you know, I like I, by delivering that

01:03:50.060 way, I can honestly think like, well, if God decides to take me when I'm sleeping, I can at

01:03:53.980 least say I went peacefully for real. You did your thing. Yeah. And like, dude, you know, people are

01:03:58.180 all for happiness and peace and all these things that have caught the trend right now. Right? Like

01:04:03.120 the trend right now is all this self-love inner peace is the new rich motherfucker. I'm going to tell

01:04:09.140 you this rich is rich. Okay. Inner peace don't really have nothing to do with it, but I will tell you,

01:04:13.920 you can have inner peace right now without any of the other shit and you do it by keeping

01:04:17.860 your word to yourself. 75 hard. That program is designed to teach people what I'm talking

01:04:23.120 about right now. It's designed to teach people how to feel great genuinely instead of just

01:04:28.540 like, you know, Stuart smalling themselves to death in the mirror. Oh, you're so special.

01:04:33.740 Yeah. You're so special. And you're so, no, we, we know when we know we're not. And we

01:04:38.520 tell ourselves that shit. Do we, do we trust ourselves more or less? No, you're lying to

01:04:43.500 yourself. Right. And we know it. So we have to understand that like we are literally tearing

01:04:50.620 down our own confidence, our own belief in ourself, our own self-esteem by telling us all

01:04:57.380 these wonderful things that all these influencers are trying to tell us to tell ourselves if they're

01:05:02.980 not actually true. And so by telling ourselves the truth and being like, okay, bro, um, you're

01:05:11.500 kind of fat. All right. You're, you're kind of lazy too. You could do this better. That's

01:05:17.440 not being abusive to yourself. No, that's telling yourself the truth. So then you have an opportunity

01:05:22.460 to address the truth. Well, I think that's the difference. I think if, if you just say

01:05:27.400 half of that, like you're a fat piece of shit. Okay. Maybe that's abusive. Yes. If you say

01:05:32.160 you're a fat piece of shit, but you don't have to be, and here's how you're going to not be.

01:05:36.660 That to me is that that's actually self-love that's self-care. I agree. I agree, bro. And you

01:05:42.120 know, I've said this on so many different shows to so many different people and it seems like people

01:05:47.320 just don't get it. You know, they think that self-love is taking a motherfucking bubble bath

01:05:50.820 or self-love is drinking a 12 pack, you know, like, Oh dude, I've worked hard this week. So some

01:05:57.400 time for some self-love and they're sitting in the river with the 12 pack.

01:06:00.700 That's not self-love. Okay. That's actually taking a step back. Right now you could say,

01:06:07.100 I'm going to relax and I'm going to fucking be a normal. And that's fine. I'm going to be a

01:06:11.040 normal human for a day. Okay. Cause I like being a normal human too, but let's not lie to ourselves

01:06:17.360 and say that self-love because self-love would really be not in the river. It would be at home

01:06:21.720 reading a motherfucking book, you know? So there there's so many things in society right now that

01:06:27.820 don't make sense that have been just jammed down our throats. And, um, the whole purpose of the 75

01:06:33.020 hard program was to help people become comfortable with themselves, um, and learn how to rely on

01:06:41.520 themselves for all of the things that they need. Right. Self-reliance basically, uh, Emerson wrote

01:06:46.720 that book, but like, you know, it's when we get, when we shift from a point from, you know, needing

01:06:53.740 external validation to, to really only needing internal validation, that's powerful because now

01:06:59.080 the negativity and, and the little comments that your aunts and uncles say about you, or, you know,

01:07:05.060 the ex-girlfriend who abused you and made you feel like shit, that shit's irrelevant. Right. When you

01:07:10.420 could dump all that shit and you know, you're past all that, think how much lighter you are.

01:07:14.940 Well, and not only that, but you're, you're no longer at the mercy of other people. Like I heard you

01:07:18.680 say, I can't remember if it was on a podcast or even just today, maybe it's all kind of blending

01:07:22.000 together at this point, but you, you said something to the effect of, you know, sometimes doing this

01:07:27.820 podcast and running your business, you feel lonely, but you can feel that way because you don't need

01:07:34.420 the external validation because you know how to validate yourself. That's right. That's right. So

01:07:38.180 it, so you can deal with that loneliness. Yes. Dude, I don't even know, like, like I'm probably the

01:07:43.640 most solitude, uh, loving person that I know. I never feel lonely. Right. Ever. Like when people

01:07:52.740 tell me they feel lonely, I don't know what the fuck that is. I don't, I honestly, I don't even

01:07:56.420 really understand what the fuck it means. Like I swear to God. And that, that is me telling the

01:08:01.780 honest to God's truth. When, when you look at me and you say like, I'm lonely, I don't know what the

01:08:08.360 fuck you're talking about. Like, I, and I think that might be a bad thing. I'm not sure, but I

01:08:13.080 just don't, I don't relate to it. Right. Like I've never, I, I don't know. I mean, maybe in high

01:08:19.220 school, like when, like my friends went out with, you know, like in high school, like, you know,

01:08:23.620 my friends decided to go out with like other friends or something at home while everybody's

01:08:28.940 like at the game, the big game, I'm at home. Like, I don't know. Is that what, like, what's lonely?

01:08:35.040 What is it? Like, you see what I'm saying? I think what it is, I don't think it's like

01:08:40.420 that people aren't around you. I think when people are saying that, cause I've heard people

01:08:45.520 say I'm lonely, even when people are around them, I think it's emptiness. I think it's

01:08:50.260 lack of meaning, lack of fulfillment, probably some lack of integrity, like they're out of

01:08:54.420 integrity or not having the right people around them. But I think it's more internal of like,

01:08:59.540 yeah, I'm empty versus there are people around me. When I say loneliness,

01:09:03.800 loneliness, for me, it's not really loneliness. It's being misunderstood. I get a lot of people

01:09:10.640 who misunderstand who I am and what I'm about. Sure. I bet that. Yeah. I can see that. You know,

01:09:15.420 I get a lot of people who think because they've seen an Instagram clip of me like intense, they

01:09:20.120 think I'm a jerk. You know what I'm saying? Or because, you know, I've been successful financially

01:09:25.240 so far. Um, you know, they think I'm arrogant or they think I'm this or that. Uh, so, and that,

01:09:33.240 that I'd just be real. Like that'll get to you after a while. Cause after a while you're like,

01:09:36.980 what the fuck, are you guys not paying attention to anything? But then I have to remember, well,

01:09:41.000 that person probably only saw this and that. Right. And they're dealing with their own stuff.

01:09:45.760 Yes. So like, you know, and that's part of the growth I was talking about. Like I'm starting to

01:09:50.160 have perspective on some things that I maybe didn't before. And, uh, it feels pretty good

01:09:54.960 because I'm starting to realize that, you know, one, people do value what I have to say. And two,

01:10:01.780 when they get mad at me, it's not that they're really mad at me. It's that they are either a,

01:10:06.560 they're misunderstanding the context or B, um, they're just on a different path and that's

01:10:11.940 okay. Yeah. You know, I, I don't, like you said a minute ago, like, dude, I wouldn't really wish my,

01:10:18.520 my existence on another human. It's not what people think it is. Well, I don't think this is

01:10:25.060 going to sound really weird. I don't think they could handle it. Well, I know they couldn't,

01:10:29.640 but I'm not saying that from an arrogant spot. No, but what I'm saying is that I don't think they

01:10:33.600 can handle it because they haven't earned it. Well, that's because they can't handle the weight.

01:10:37.760 That's right. You only able, it's just like lifting weights. When you first go in the weight room

01:10:40.940 your first day, that fucking, that bar is going to feel like a lot. And you come back in 20 years,

01:10:45.220 you're, you're, you're able to lift it with five plates on it. Yeah. That's exactly what it's like.

01:10:49.460 Like, dude, if I put most, and this is not me to my own shit. Okay. Like, um, but if I took a Joe

01:10:55.880 off the street, right, who, who wanted to be a business guy and I just stuck him in my position,

01:11:01.540 dude, they would go home crying by fucking two o'clock. Yeah. Drowned. Yes. I'm sure. One day,

01:11:06.920 one single fucking day with the amount of information that comes through us at the,

01:11:10.800 on this phone and in person, it would, it would, it probably mentally crippled them for a while.

01:11:17.000 That's the truth because business never gets easy. You guys think it gets easier? No, it doesn't.

01:11:21.680 It gets fucking harder. You just get stronger and you get more resilient and more. And like,

01:11:26.520 I'll be honest, like me, me having to buckle down with 75 hard. Like if you guys, like you guys,

01:11:31.580 a lot of you guys listening have been following me for a long time because Ryan and I've been friends

01:11:34.960 for a long time. Um, you know, I have to do 75 hard because as our business elevates, I have to

01:11:44.060 elevate because there's more shit to deal with. Yeah. So this is like my way of not literally going

01:11:49.900 down that dark path and fucking blowing my brains out. You know what I'm saying? Like that, this is how

01:11:55.580 I avoid going that way because dude, the stress and the things that come along with running a company

01:12:02.700 of this size, you know, and beyond is way more than one person can fucking handle. It's just the

01:12:09.320 truth. Do you feel like as you've continued to improve, you continue to get more successful that

01:12:15.320 there's fewer people? And I don't know if it's accountability, but there's fewer and fewer

01:12:20.800 people to push you. Like I know Ed Ed's probably somebody who pushes you. I'm completely self

01:12:26.020 sufficient on that now. Like I don't need anybody to, I don't, I don't ever watch a video and think

01:12:32.060 like, fuck dude, that motivates me so much. I'm motivated. No, that shit. Usually when I watch a

01:12:36.680 video like that, I'm like, I could have done better. That's what I think. And, and, but that's,

01:12:41.300 that's just me always being competitive. And, um, now I do watch some of Jocko's shit and I'm like,

01:12:46.620 fuck that's gold. Yeah. He's solid. Yeah. And Goggins is solid too.

01:12:50.340 Yeah. For sure. You know, like those guys, like I will say, like, I look at that and I'm like,

01:12:54.040 fuck yeah. But I'm not, it's not like I jump off my couch and go do shit. Right. I'm so

01:12:58.600 self-sufficient now on that, in that regard of being motivated. Um, that really dude, motivation

01:13:04.620 has become irrelevant to me. It's not about motivation anymore. It's just about doing what

01:13:08.140 I need to do. It's discipline. Well, that's a, that's a powerful spot to be in because I think

01:13:12.740 if you're relying solely on motivation, it's all external and it's just kind of at the whim of

01:13:17.300 whatever's available. The odor is going to wear off, bro. You know what I'm saying?

01:13:21.620 Yeah. Being more, if you're, if you can only do shit when you're motivated, you're not going

01:13:24.740 to get anything done. Yeah. You know, I like for me personally, I think there's an element

01:13:29.220 of motivation. It serves me in addition to building up willpower, discipline. They work

01:13:35.580 harmoniously for me. If I'm relying solely on motivation, like you said, it's going to wear

01:13:39.940 off. I got to be able to light my own fire simply because I said I would do something.

01:13:43.960 Yeah. Well, but you know, that that's a process that we have to come to, right? Like I, I bet

01:13:49.520 you weren't always that way. No, I wasn't. No, I can tell you that, you know, um, fuck

01:13:54.420 even four or five years ago, you guys who have been with me that long, you could see it.

01:13:59.680 Go look at a video of me from fucking four or five years ago. Look at my fucking face.

01:14:03.740 Tell me if you think that motherfucker was working hard. You see what I'm saying?

01:14:08.220 Yeah. I know exactly what you're saying.

01:14:10.020 Yeah. So like I had a big old fucking watermelon face. You know why? Cause I fucking didn't

01:14:13.840 do what the fuck I said I was supposed to do. And I only did things when I was motivated

01:14:17.860 and what, what turned it on for you? Cause I remember when it happened. Well, I started

01:14:22.440 realizing that if I didn't fix what I had, that there would be people who would suffer

01:14:28.200 that weren't necessarily me. Cause when I fixed it, dude, I was already wealthy. Yeah.

01:14:32.860 Right. You were already successful. I've been, I've been a wealthy man for a long time

01:14:36.320 now. This isn't fucking new to me. Um, my biggest epiphany in that regard came from me

01:14:47.240 realizing that if I didn't level up that the guys, the guys who have been with me, my employees

01:14:54.360 who've been with me for 12, 13 years, we're going to be capped at where they were. And so

01:14:59.400 I started to look at it from a different perspective. I'm like, fuck dude, you know, these guys fucking

01:15:03.720 bled for you. You're living this great life. Now it's time for you to bleed some for them to live

01:15:09.140 that great life. And so that was where that's whenever it started to switch for me. And honestly,

01:15:14.040 dude, like my whole life got so much better when I had that realization that I'm doing it for

01:15:19.400 everybody else and not doing it for myself because now, um, I can legitimately feel very proud of why

01:15:27.240 I do certain things. You know what I mean? Yeah. Um, and, and I don't know, I think that takes a

01:15:34.460 special kind of being honest with yourself. Like, you know, I've got 12, 15 guys have been with me

01:15:43.540 for 10 plus years. You know what I'm saying? Like, dude, I owe it to these guys to take this as far as

01:15:48.820 we got to take it to where they get where they want to be too. Yeah. You know what I mean? And so I

01:15:53.420 knew that if I didn't start leveling up and fixing my own bullshit, um, we weren't going to get there.

01:16:00.620 So it came down to a matter of like, what did I value more? Did I value just me being good or do

01:16:07.160 I truly care about the people that work for me? And I do. And that's why the decision that's where

01:16:11.900 that's kind of what clicked it for me. And you know, I imagine I'm not going to put words in your

01:16:16.420 mouth. You can tell me if I'm wrong that that improved your life so much more. You know what I mean?

01:16:22.160 So you, you, you turned it outwards. I got to serve these guys. Oh, and ironically enough,

01:16:27.100 you got better and you improved and your life was enhanced. Now I first figured this out a little

01:16:32.520 bit like around 2010, 11. And that's when our business went from doing no business to doing

01:16:36.720 a lot of business. Okay. Um, I started to figure out like for our customers, right? Like I'm like,

01:16:41.180 okay, dude, you got to stop trying to sell them shit and start to actually help them. Huge, huge,

01:16:45.780 huge, huge, uh, turning point for our company after that decision was had or after that

01:16:51.740 mentality perspective was gained, we grew a hundred percent for five years in a row in

01:16:56.900 the shittiest economy that had existed up until this point. Yeah. Um, still worse than what's

01:17:02.840 going on at this point, honestly. Um, but then I, but, but that was only the part of the shift

01:17:10.680 for a long time. I thought that was the shift, but the rest of the shift was actually turning

01:17:14.800 it from something to my customers to also something for my employees. You see what I'm saying?

01:17:19.360 Yeah. So I started to think like, well, fuck dude, I need to set the example for these

01:17:23.780 guys. And I think where I think also like with getting older, you know, I was always

01:17:28.600 cause cause dude, I've always, I was business when I was young. So I was always working with

01:17:32.300 people who were similar age as me. Right. Yeah. But now I'm, I'm, I am kind of like, we

01:17:37.940 have so many new people that I'm, I'm considerably older than most of the guys here. Most of the

01:17:42.020 girls here, you know, 15 years roughly. And those, when those people started to wreck it,

01:17:46.980 like when I started recognizing that they were seeing me as like, like they're like

01:17:51.260 somebody that should know their shit. Right. Either like father figure mentor status.

01:17:55.740 That's whenever I was like, Oh, all right. You're doing a kind of a shitty job, Andy. Like

01:18:00.200 let's step it the fuck up. And that's where, uh, that's sort of where, where, where, where

01:18:05.460 this pivot that you've been able to witness cause you knew me before and after, um, has come

01:18:10.540 from, you know, it's inspiring, man. I love it. Every time we have a conversation, I'm inspired

01:18:15.540 by what you're doing and just to see the growth. And I mean, it's been good for me too. You

01:18:19.280 know, I told, I suggested earlier when we did our other podcasts, like I'm doing the

01:18:22.920 75 hard program right now. And when I did it the first time, man, I was dialed in, like

01:18:27.840 I was tearing it up and I feel that way now. Yeah. Yeah. But then I slacked and compounded

01:18:32.880 it and made it worse by taking two or three weeks off. Yeah. Um, we learn a lot about ourselves

01:18:37.040 with that, don't we? Oh, for sure. Yeah. And how weak you are and how, and the other thing

01:18:41.680 I learned is how easy it is to get derailed. Dude, it only takes one day, one day and not

01:18:48.540 even a day, no one decision in one day. Yeah. And then you make it worse by saying, well,

01:18:53.680 I screwed up. So I guess I can just keep going. So a key part of the 75 hard program is, you

01:18:58.680 know, starting back over at day one, right? Well, you're supposed to start back over on

01:19:02.720 day one, the day after you fuck up, which would be the right move for sure. A lot of people

01:19:06.960 don't do that. And then they get fucked and then they're like, fuck, this is so much harder

01:19:11.140 now to start when in reality you're supposed to start over the very next day. And something

01:19:16.500 that's something people miss on the program, uh, that I think matters a lot because those

01:19:21.440 restarts, when you start the next day, you're actually teaching yourself to forgive yourself.

01:19:25.500 And what you're doing is you're teaching yourself. All right, dude, look, I fucking stumbled, but

01:19:29.760 I'm getting back up tomorrow morning. I'm fucking work instantaneous right back on. That's

01:19:33.680 right. And that's a huge fucking problem for people because I was always that guy too.

01:19:38.380 I was the guy who was like, dude, I'll start my diet on Monday. Right. Then Monday

01:19:42.500 came and it got to be about three or four o'clock. I'm like, fuck that dude. I'm hungry

01:19:45.560 tomorrow. I'll do tomorrow. Right. And then I'll start on Tuesday. And then, and then by

01:19:49.040 the time I got to Wednesday, I was saying Monday again, I'm like, nah, fuck it. I already

01:19:52.520 fucked up my week. So I'm gonna go Monday. And dude, honestly, that's how I got to be

01:19:56.720 three 50 because just like those one week turns into three weeks for you. Yep. That

01:20:02.980 can turn into a year for someone else or two years or five years. And so the biggest

01:20:08.800 thing that people can do is to start right now. Like if you're thinking about 75 hard

01:20:14.240 today, this afternoon, no, you should go do it right now. Right. And if you can't get

01:20:17.220 all five in today, get what you can done today and start on day one tomorrow. Dude, the acting

01:20:22.520 right away is such a huge part. Um, that's a good point. That's a, that's a nuanced

01:20:27.920 little thing. I've never said that publicly before because, but because it's in the book,

01:20:33.140 right? Like there's a lot of shit that people in the book, I haven't got it yet. I told you

01:20:37.620 I haven't got it. There's a lot of, there's a lot of the psychology that goes into why things

01:20:41.320 are the way they are. Like if you're, if you're one of those people that needs to know why

01:20:44.440 I am one of those people, right? I'm not as weird for me. I'm like, cool. You tell me

01:20:48.240 I'll do it. Yeah. Well, my ego is probably a little bit bigger than

01:20:52.400 yours. Let's just be real. I just look at it and think this guy knows more than me

01:20:56.240 and he's telling me to jump. So I'm going to jump. See that, that means you're great

01:20:59.860 coach. You're, you're, you're very coachable. I'm hard person to coach. I am. Cause I'm

01:21:04.560 stubborn as fuck. So for me, you know, it's been a process and I've got, I've had to work.

01:21:12.320 I, I, but if you're one of these people that needs to know that book will explain the why

01:21:16.780 behind everything. And I think people are really going to enjoy learning that. Yeah. And then

01:21:21.340 when are you going to have new copies? That's, that's the problem right now. Right. You sold

01:21:24.740 out of them, didn't you? We sold out six months of inventory or something. Yeah. It was crazy.

01:21:28.820 Um, thank you by the way, for all of you that bought those books. Cause I know there's a lot

01:21:33.140 of people listening right now that did. I'm sure. Um, we got a lot of guys in, in our, in our program

01:21:39.040 and our iron council, which is our brotherhood. Yeah. And we have a large percentage of them who

01:21:43.920 are doing, in fact, we have channels in iron council and the channels are based on what they want to

01:21:49.080 talk about, like whether it's fatherhood or pornography, whatever, whatever they want to

01:21:52.880 talk about. And there's a 75 heart channel and I love it. I'm like, cool. Yeah. Do it. If it works

01:21:57.580 and it's helping you and I know it's working cause it's working for me, then let's support each other

01:22:01.500 and doing it. Yeah. I look, dude, it, it works. The program works. It works for me. Anybody who's

01:22:08.600 actually been able to say, look, every motherfucker that said that I've had a couple, few people that go,

01:22:12.820 I did it. It didn't do shit. And then they can't show me their pictures. Right. You didn't do it.

01:22:16.300 I didn't fucking do it. Right. So like, I already thought this through motherfucker. Like just so

01:22:20.780 you know, prove it. Let's see it. So picture it didn't happen. Right. Right. So, um, but everybody

01:22:26.880 who's legitimately finished the program, they get it. It's, it's, it's, there's not another program

01:22:32.600 that's ever existed like it. That's the truth. There's never been a mental toughness, confidence

01:22:37.640 building actual program specifically designed for that. Does it have fitness aspects? Absolutely. Yeah.

01:22:43.680 Cause you're supposed to suffer. Guess what? Fitness is one of the easiest ways to suffer.

01:22:47.740 All right. Restricting your diet is one of the easiest ways to make yourself suffer. The whole

01:22:51.880 point of this is suffering. Understand that going in, you are going to fucking suffer. And the whole

01:22:58.120 point is to push through past the point where you want to quit. And a lot of you guys, the first five,

01:23:02.980 six, seven, eight days, you're going to be so fucking sore. You're like, no way I can keep this up.

01:23:06.600 Sore, hungry, tired. But you get into day 15, 16, 20, all of a sudden the soreness goes away.

01:23:12.660 All of a sudden you're starting to think clearly. All of a sudden you're starting to get momentum.

01:23:16.620 All of a sudden you've gone longer than you've ever gone without missing a workout or a fucking

01:23:20.700 meal, good meal or anything. Yeah. Now you're starting to be like, holy shit, I can actually

01:23:27.920 fucking do this. Right. It's a, and so if you could stick it out till day 21, it just becomes,

01:23:33.820 it just becomes like the body's amazing. The body and mind, there's the, the adaptability,

01:23:39.640 right? It just becomes so habitualized that it becomes easier and more efficient. I thought

01:23:44.680 about this with jujitsu. In fact, this morning I woke up cause I've been doing jujitsu four to

01:23:49.200 five days a week for over a year now. That's awesome. I love it. And I woke up this morning

01:23:55.380 and I thought to myself, man, I'm not sore. Like I actually feel really good right now today. I feel

01:24:01.740 good for the first time in a long time. Yeah. But I remember a year ago, dude, I, I get done

01:24:08.640 with jujitsu and I legit could not even move. Yeah, dude. It's what my body's adapted and I

01:24:14.340 become more efficient at the game. Dude. That's why more people don't work out. Cause like they go

01:24:19.640 in the first two weeks and they're like, I'm going to get in shape. And then they overtrain

01:24:23.520 and they fucking are so sore. They can't move. And they think that's how it always is. They don't

01:24:28.580 even give it enough time to really learn what it's about. Right. And so dude, um, you know,

01:24:33.780 being able to push through those little breakthroughs that we all have and those little

01:24:37.040 self-limiting boundaries that we all have is really what life's about, man. Like once

01:24:42.520 you start to learn that you could push through anything and you start to realize that it doesn't

01:24:46.900 really matter if it's this or that, if it's, you know, business or if it's a relationship

01:24:51.720 or if it's a marathon or if it's joining the military or whatever your goal is, once you

01:24:58.040 figure out that you can push through things when they're difficult, think how much more

01:25:03.420 powerful that makes you in life. You know what I mean? Like dude, if it were up to me, I like,

01:25:09.540 I wish everybody would legitimately do and complete 75 hard because our society would look fucking

01:25:14.880 different completely. Oh, I know I would. Yeah. Yeah. I, I think too, when, when you, when you do this,

01:25:22.120 it doesn't matter what it is, whether it's 75 hard or any other program that, that is getting

01:25:26.660 you to perform better and to do hard things. Yeah. It translates perfectly. Like if you've been

01:25:32.600 avoiding a difficult conversation, it's going to be so much easier for you to have that difficult

01:25:36.920 conversation. If you've been working out two days a week for 20 days, you're hungry, you're tired,

01:25:42.420 you're sore. You're like, Oh, I can do that. I can certainly have this difficult conversation

01:25:46.300 with this person. Dude. It's so cool because what happens is, is you become aware of the

01:25:51.480 excuses that you tell yourself and that awareness. I mean, what the fuck is that worth? Yeah. Like

01:25:56.840 what is it worth to now become aware when you're self-sabotaging every single fucking time? You

01:26:02.180 know what I'm saying? Like self-sabotaging. A lot of people don't know what that means. That means

01:26:05.840 you're talking yourself out of the shit, you know, it needs to be done, you know, whether you're aware

01:26:10.820 or unaware of it. And when you become aware of that, you know, and you will in that program,

01:26:15.640 there's no question. Oh yeah. When you become aware of that, that bitch voice, that's what I

01:26:20.160 call it. That talks you out of all the shit, you know, that's going to make you a better person

01:26:24.320 and more and more successful and all that, bro, you become powerful like in all areas. And it's

01:26:33.540 such a fucking liberating free feeling. Like a lot of you guys that are in, you know, Ryan's

01:26:39.240 organization, you guys are looking for, for free, free, free, you know, peace and all

01:26:45.640 these things that we talk about that men need. This is it, man. It's one of the biggest things

01:26:51.480 for me, it's it, you know, and I know there's other things too, but like that's for me, you

01:26:56.700 know, there is, but here's the thing I've learned is I don't need to reinvent the wheel. Like

01:27:02.300 there's other things you can do or you can just do the thing that works. You could, you

01:27:07.520 could spend a bunch, but you can figure this out on your own. You can take the next 10,

01:27:11.200 5, 10, 20 years, whatever, and figure out what works for you. That's what you did. And

01:27:15.460 so here's the beauty of this. And I think this falls into where a lot of people get hung

01:27:19.400 up is they, they bash on people that have had success because somehow they feel as a

01:27:24.940 threat. And I look at it and I think like this, this, this deal with Joe Rogan, a hundred

01:27:29.400 million dollars or whatever. I'm like, sweet. Yeah. He just unlocked the key. He did. And

01:27:34.660 I'm actually going to walk through the door. He did. Most people are like, Oh, well he

01:27:38.240 did it. No, there's nothing for me. No, there's more for us now. That's right. No, just like

01:27:42.700 Patrick, Patrick Mahomes just got a half a billion dollar fucking contract, which by the

01:27:46.860 way is awesome. Yes. Okay. You know why it's awesome? Because he's a good fucking guy and

01:27:52.080 he makes an attempt to be a good human. All right. I root for that. But like, dude, you

01:27:56.540 go back at third, you know, Johnny Unitas or those guys weren't making that money. Joe Rogan's

01:28:01.840 the Joe Rogan's that guy, right? He ain't the Mahomes. No, he's the guy that got the

01:28:05.800 first bite first one. Yeah. And it's great for him. And dude, look, if anybody listens

01:28:10.500 to the podcast, you know, Joe's at the fucking top and he's so good at what he does. And it's

01:28:15.020 so interesting to listen to whether you agree with or not agree with people underestimate

01:28:19.820 how he is at it. Yeah. And like he deserves that. I thought it was fucking awesome. We should

01:28:26.520 all feel that way. Yeah. But you know what? And I started thinking about that. I'm like,

01:28:29.580 well, why doesn't everybody feel that way? Because they're not doing what they're supposed

01:28:33.380 to be doing. That's it. Because if you were doing what you were supposed to be doing in

01:28:37.680 all ways and you were living in integrity, that would not threaten you. That would excite

01:28:41.260 you. Dude, I'll tell you what, man. There is a very practical reason you should root for

01:28:46.620 him and anybody who's successful. Look, dude, I'm a huge believer in spirituality and the universe

01:28:55.360 and God. Right. And you know, we all, if we sat down, you and I, and we discussed all

01:29:00.400 these things, we probably say some things the different, different ways. Yeah. But I

01:29:03.600 think we probably all wrap around in the same place. So, um, the intent that you have in

01:29:10.940 your heart is actually what creates the law of attraction to work. I believe. Okay. And

01:29:17.320 it has for me. And what I mean by that is this, if you root for someone, right? Like

01:29:22.940 if you're like saying, Oh, do you good for Joe? But you really don't believe that secretly

01:29:26.340 despise what you're telling the universe is that you don't like success. Like you don't

01:29:31.160 like winning. So when you tell the universe, I don't like winning or I don't like success

01:29:35.320 and saying out loud is way worse. But I'm saying like a lot of people are confused because

01:29:40.000 they're like, well, I root for people and I still don't win. Well, do you really root for

01:29:43.640 people or do you just say that you root for people? Right. Difference. And so you have

01:29:48.560 to align your intent and root for people. And when you start, you know, rooting for people

01:29:54.900 from a genuine place to win, it's funny because you'll start winning too. Yeah. I

01:29:59.060 believe that. I found the, and so if anybody's struggling with this, cause I have for a long

01:30:03.760 time, I would secretly despise people that would win. Cause I'm like, well, shit, I'm not

01:30:08.120 winning. Yeah. So, so here's my tip. If you, if you're trying to align that heart, that

01:30:13.120 intent with your, with your words, the best way to get excited about people winning is

01:30:17.760 to start helping them win. Yeah. Just help do whatever, whatever you can just start helping

01:30:24.640 them. And then you're proving that you want them to win. Yeah. Share their stuff. Yes.

01:30:29.160 Give them something simple. Exactly. You know, like just little things like that, dude, that's

01:30:32.980 not taken away from you. No, you know, dude, it's, it's scarcity versus abundance, right?

01:30:37.960 Like we all hear that and it's probably overcooked to be honest, but it's the truth. Like there

01:30:42.900 is enough success for literally anybody out there to, to, to, to, to have it without

01:30:48.540 taking away from you. Yeah. And if you want success, then you have to be a fan of success

01:30:54.820 like from your heart. Yeah. You know what I mean? Right. So I think that's a huge thing

01:31:00.600 a lot. I, cause dude, I was the guy, I was the guy that was opposite of that. I was the

01:31:05.760 guy I just described where I saw other people win and I was like, dude, fuck that guy.

01:31:10.020 I'm a fucking destroy him. Right. And I would go automatically to that dark place and it

01:31:15.200 works, right? Like I got better because temporarily, yeah, that's it. And you'll be miserable. So

01:31:21.000 the problem is, is like, yeah, you'll win, but you're going to be, you're going to feel

01:31:24.280 alone. And, and, and isn't it cooler to be friends with people who are winning? I mean,

01:31:29.480 I think now, I mean, of course, I think it is, you know, and think of all the anxiety

01:31:33.900 that's off of you when you don't harbor any ill will for people, you know, when you start to like

01:31:38.240 truly want the best for people, think what that does for your stress levels and your anxiety levels

01:31:43.960 on the inside. Yeah. It makes them go way down, dude. Cause you know, you don't have any ill intent.

01:31:47.980 And if people even accuse you of it, you can walk away honestly and say, well, that's, that's not

01:31:52.820 true. And it doesn't get to you. Yeah. It's okay. Yeah. You know, so right on brother. We'll start

01:31:57.720 wrapping this. We've been podcasting for probably four hours at this point, but Hey man, I just want to let

01:32:03.600 you know, I really appreciate you and our friendship, you know, from day one, you know,

01:32:06.980 when we initially got connected, I've always been inspired and motivated by what you do.

01:32:11.100 I know the guys listening are for sure. And just to be able to be connected and learn from you has

01:32:16.120 been, has been good for me. So want to let you know that bro. It goes both ways, man. I appreciate

01:32:20.620 you as well. I always appreciate our conversations. Um, you're doing great work. I'm proud of what you

01:32:25.520 guys are doing and it's, it's, it's, it's an awesome thing to see. So it goes both ways.

01:32:29.400 Thanks, man. Guys, there you go. My conversation with Andy Frisilla.

01:32:33.600 Like I told you, I told you, this was the best podcast that, that we've done since we started

01:32:38.460 podcasting nearly six years ago. And I think many of you will agree that that is absolutely

01:32:44.600 the case. And he's been a long time friend. Uh, he's been a long-term supporter. Uh, he's

01:32:50.740 never once big league to me, even though I feel at times he is certainly out of my league

01:32:54.820 and a lot of elements. Uh, but he's always been a friend. He's always been an advocate and

01:32:59.600 he's always stood for what's right and true. Uh, and he's been willing to put himself out

01:33:03.920 there, which is what I've learned more from Andy, uh, than just about anybody else. Just

01:33:08.120 a willingness to, to say things that are unpopular, that are controversial, that will receive blowback.

01:33:14.340 But man, if you have information that you feel like is true and that will help people,

01:33:18.920 then we have an obligation to share it. And Andy certainly epitomizes that ideal.

01:33:24.100 So if you're not already connected with him, go connect with him, jump on the 75 hard program.

01:33:29.540 Again, I think the 30 days to battle ready program would go very nicely with a 75 hard program. Um,

01:33:34.540 you guys can see what we mean. If you sign up for both, both of them are free by the way.

01:33:37.820 So there's a lot of information and value being extended to you without you having to

01:33:42.420 invest anything other than your time and your attention and your energy. So check out the 75

01:33:48.300 hard program, check out the battle day, uh, battle ready program. Just get your life on track. That's

01:33:53.520 what Andy's about. That's what I'm about. Connect with Andy. If you would, please let him know where,

01:33:57.840 uh, you, you heard the show or what you thought about the show. Just let him know that,

01:34:02.160 that you listen to this podcast and that you appreciate what he's doing.

01:34:05.060 You can do that on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook. I think he's most active on Instagram. So check it out

01:34:08.980 there. I, I believe it's at Andy for Silla, but if you just type in his name, you'll find it.

01:34:13.200 Anyways, guys, that's all I've got for you today. We've got another great conversation coming on

01:34:16.840 Thursday. So be prepared for that. Uh, I'm, I am going to release more interviews than I have in

01:34:22.260 the past, because it seems to me that this is based on the download numbers, what you guys want. So

01:34:26.720 we'll continue to, uh, get those great guests in front of you and, uh, pick their brains and get

01:34:32.640 their information and, uh, really learn from them so that you can extract that knowledge and apply it in

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Order of Man - July 14, 2020

ANDY FRISELLA ｜ Real AF

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