Order of Man - Bad Habits or Destructive Tendencies, Why Work Life is Easier Than Home Life, and That Which is Measured Improves ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

00:00:00.000 You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.

00:00:06.020 When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time. Every time.

00:00:10.480 You are not easily deterred or defeated. Rugged. Resilient. Strong.

00:00:15.500 This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become.

00:00:19.760 At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

00:00:24.720 Kip, what's up, man? Great to see you. Good to have you back. I think I ran it. I think I ran solo last week.

00:00:30.560 I think you ran either solo or with Sean the week before. I don't know. It all gets mixed in the wrong.

00:00:34.960 You were just so out of it last week that you just don't even remember that we had a conversation together.

00:00:41.040 That's right. You know what's funny? Actually, people...

00:00:45.880 I had so many people ask if I was drunk or high when I did the AMA last week

00:00:54.000 and when I did the Friday field notes. And the answer is I was high. I was high on prescription

00:01:00.980 medication. It was the week from hell. Look, I don't want to complain. I really don't. But I do

00:01:07.000 want to say this, that sometimes life is just going to kick you in the dick and you just kind of have 0.70

00:01:14.140 to take it and adjust. So I think I told you I had that panic attack, which I'd never had before.

00:01:22.560 Did I mention that? Yep. Yep. We talked. We didn't talk about it online. We talked about it

00:01:26.880 before. Okay. So yeah. So I didn't tell anybody, I guess, online. I had a panic attack. I didn't know

00:01:33.100 if I was having a heart attack or I didn't know what was going on, but I had my kids and I was

00:01:38.880 driving and I was about to go through the Jimmy John's line and I was going to take them and get

00:01:46.060 some food. Normally I'd make them dinner. I'd cook dinner for them, but I'm like, guys, I can't cook.

00:01:50.000 I'm not feeling it tonight. So we're in the Jimmy John's line and I'm lightheaded. I'm like,

00:01:57.180 heart rates accelerating. I'm like, what in the world is going on? So I called her mom and I'm

00:02:03.880 like, Hey, I, something's going on. Like, I don't know what's happening. Something's going on.

00:02:09.640 So, uh, can I bring the kids by? She's like, yeah, bring them by. I'm at Costco. I'll be back in 10

00:02:15.040 minutes, drop them off, go into the ER. So I do. That's what I, I went into the ER and the doc came

00:02:20.880 in great ER doc. What was your thoughts? Your thoughts were your thoughts like something wrong

00:02:26.120 or was it like, I might be having a heart attack or no, I knew I wasn't, I knew I wasn't having a

00:02:31.480 heart attack. It felt like maybe a little bit like that, but I thought I was having a panic attack

00:02:37.220 or an anxiety attack. I don't know if there's a difference or whatever, but, um, but that's what

00:02:43.220 I thought it was. And I went in and they did an EKG and ran the blood work and the doc came back.

00:02:51.100 He's like, your blood work looks good. Everything's solid. He's like, are you healthy? I'm like, yeah,

00:02:55.760 I'm totally healthy. And he's like, um, I think you, I think you're just having a panic attack.

00:03:01.020 So we're just going to keep you here and monitor you for an hour, hour and a half or whatever,

00:03:06.120 give you an IV. And they gave me this, this medication. Um, it's like some strong anti-anxiety

00:03:14.100 medication. Oh, dude, the dosage is heavy the first couple of days. And then it gradually

00:03:22.120 weans you off of it over time. And I feel a lot better now. Yeah. So I had that happen. And then

00:03:27.480 two days later I'm driving down. So I'm going to, it's going to be a gripe session, but the point

00:03:32.420 that I'm making is like, just roll with the punches guys. So I'm driving down from, uh, from

00:03:38.420 Zion area. I live, I live near Zion national park. I'm driving down. Um, I'm on a date and

00:03:45.500 we're coming back from, from dinner and a deer is in the middle of the road. I'm like, Oh shit,

00:03:52.200 I'm going to hit this deer. Like I'm a hundred percent going to hit this deer. So I hit my brakes,

00:03:58.120 slow down. And I hit the deer at maybe 25 miles an hour. And the, and it was a doe and she was big, 0.99

00:04:04.520 big mule deer. She rolls like four times. Like I wasn't speeding or anything, but she rolls four 1.00

00:04:09.720 times. And the, the woman I was with like screamed and she covered her eyes and I'm like, I'm like,

00:04:18.820 it's all right. Like, are you okay? She's like, yeah, I'm okay. I'm like, it's okay. The deer's okay.

00:04:22.760 She's like, the deer's not okay. I saw its head bounce off the hood of the truck. And I'm like,

00:04:28.360 no, I promise when you closed your eyes, it got up and ran away. She's like, no, it didn't. I'm like,

00:04:34.720 where is it? Like, show me where is it? And she looked and she's like, I don't see it. I'm like,

00:04:40.200 yeah, it ran away. She's like, how? I'm like, cause they're resilient. So I get up, I get out,

00:04:46.360 I pull over, I turn my hazard lights on. And I look at the front of my, my truck. And there's

00:04:52.600 like this little teeny dent on the bumper, just a teeny little dent on the bumper. And she's like,

00:05:00.240 Ryan, I'm like, what? She's like, here's the deer. And I'm thinking to myself, sweet. The deer died.

00:05:05.160 I'm going to throw the deer in the back of my truck. And her and I are going to clean this thing 0.99

00:05:09.420 tonight. I'm going to have more. He's joking by the way, for anyone that wants to like,

00:05:13.380 no, I'm not joking. I'm dead serious. You can't do that, man. That's actually,

00:05:18.520 they would classify it as poaching. You still have to go to like fishing. No, I would call. I would

00:05:22.800 call. Yeah, of course. I wouldn't just take it. I'm helping you out here. No, no, I would,

00:05:27.700 I would have called DNR and said, Hey, I just hit this deer. Come check it out. You know,

00:05:33.120 they have to check and make sure everything's on the up and up, but you can, you can actually take it

00:05:37.820 with permission. So yeah, I would definitely call for sure. Yeah. So I'm thinking sweet. I have more

00:05:42.760 deer in the freezer. And she's like, here's the deer. And I go over there and I'm like,

00:05:47.080 it's alive. And it runs up the hill and it runs away. And she's, you know, she was fine.

00:05:53.280 And she's, she's, she's a softie when, when it comes to that stuff, which is fine. It was just

00:05:58.000 kind of funny. So I got this little dent on my truck. So I'm thinking to myself, I don't know if

00:06:04.060 I'll get a replaced. I got a $500 deductible. Maybe I'll just leave it. It's a small dent. No big deal.

00:06:08.520 So I'm driving down the road yesterday. I make a turn and I'm driving. And all of a sudden,

00:06:16.080 wham, this car just drills me out of nowhere. Like T-boned or not T-boned hit the front driver

00:06:27.080 side of my truck. Just, just, just rams right into me. I'm like, what in the world?

00:06:35.100 So I, I'm like, I think my truck's still drivable. I look, I'm like, I think I can drive it. So I pull

00:06:42.140 it over. I turn my hazards on again. I pull over the side of the road. This woman's in the middle 1.00

00:06:47.560 of the road. Her car is demolished. Like the whole half of it is just thrashed. And I go over there.

00:06:54.860 I'm like, are you okay? And she's like, yeah. And I could tell she was in shock. And I said,

00:06:59.120 you're in shock. Like everything's okay. I'm okay. I have a passenger in the car. They're okay.

00:07:06.260 We're okay. Everybody's fine. You're not hurt. You don't look like you're bleeding. Are you okay?

00:07:10.820 She's like, yeah. So somebody comes over and they're like, Hey, have you called the police yet?

00:07:15.040 I'm like, no, it just happened. So this guy calls the police and long story short, she,

00:07:21.320 I don't know where she came from, but she fit. They gave, they cited her for failure to merge.

00:07:25.700 And she just smashed the side of my front quarter panel and bumper. I'm like, sweet. I'm getting a

00:07:31.780 new bumper out of the deal, you know, anyways. And so I'm like, this is crazy. Like all this stuff.

00:07:39.160 So I'm driving my truck around and it's, you know, it's, it's fine. It's drivable, but it doesn't

00:07:43.940 look awesome. So this morning, my buddy calls me up last story. I promise caused me up. Then he's

00:07:50.940 like, Hey man, last night, he's like, Hey man, do you want to come play pickleball? He just built

00:07:54.500 an indoor pickleball court at his house. It's beautiful. He's like, you want to come play

00:07:58.640 pickleball? I'm like, yeah, that'd be awesome. So I get up at five 30 this morning. I meet him

00:08:03.420 and two other buddies over there. We're playing pickleball. We're playing, you know, two, two on

00:08:07.360 two. One of the guys has to go. Cause he has to get ready for work. And he's like, Hey, we'll just

00:08:11.240 play two on one. I'm like, great. So I'm playing against these guys. And all of a sudden something

00:08:18.680 hits me in the back of my leg. Like it felt like a rock, but it's indoor. I'm like, what

00:08:24.880 just hit me? Like I turned around cause it felt like a rock hit me in the calf. Nothing

00:08:30.680 hit me. I realized my calf popped. And so it's like, dude, it's almost unbearable to walk on

00:08:40.640 right now. And I hesitate to tell that story. Cause I think I tore my calf muscle or something

00:08:48.280 playing pickleball. Like that's totally embarrassing. So now I got to go to the doctor

00:08:56.980 today. I got to call the VA, you know, which is even worse than just going to the regular

00:09:01.760 doctor. Call the VA and tell him, I think I tore my calf muscle or something. It's like,

00:09:10.360 you know, damn, you're, you're just playing mid game and pop. Yeah. It wasn't even do,

00:09:16.900 it wasn't like, I wasn't like diving for a ball. I wasn't like doing anything particularly

00:09:22.860 cool. Like I just like stopped and adjusted and like went and hit the ball and it just

00:09:29.560 pop. So this has just been a week. I don't want to say a week from hell cause it can get

00:09:36.740 way worse, but guys, the moral of the story here, sometimes like, you know, shit and let's

00:09:45.480 just keep rolling with the punches and just hope it gets better. So how's your week been

00:09:50.820 Kip? Now that you know all about my, uh, my life. I mean, we chatted a little bit. Yeah.

00:09:55.360 We chatted a little bit on over the weekend. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. I'm a little stressed.

00:09:59.220 Yeah. I'm just kind of like in those, and I like actually what you said, because that's

00:10:03.960 how I feel. It's just like, you know, sometimes you just need to grind it out. Yeah. And so

00:10:09.200 I'm in, I'm in a grind phase of just, just grind, just keep going. Yeah. You know, and

00:10:14.500 not throw my hands up completely, you know, cause I have a tendency, like if I'm in a really

00:10:18.520 bad state, I'll just F everything, you know, I go to the gym. You know what I mean? And I'm

00:10:22.980 like, Nope. Keep, keep to my schedule, keep doing what I do. And, um, you know, I'll get

00:10:29.880 out of my little slump here hopefully soon. Right. Yeah. It's, it's crazy. I mean, it's

00:10:35.940 a, it's a wild thing, but I, you know, here's one other thing I would say is just don't isolate.

00:10:42.060 Right. Right. And I'm not telling you just you that I'm telling the guys absolutely don't

00:10:45.920 isolate. Um, don't throw a pity party, uh, find good people to be around. Even if you

00:10:53.140 have to drag yourself out of the house, uh, engage in hobbies, like find hobbies and interests

00:10:58.680 that are important to you. Uh, be careful of substances. I think it's very easy for a lot

00:11:04.080 of guys to turn to drugs or, or booze. Um, you know, I've certainly done that in the

00:11:08.720 past. Don't do that. Um, you know, keep like eat healthy. Like don't, don't, don't just

00:11:15.920 let your health deteriorate because it's going to get worse and worse. Um, all the things that

00:11:20.560 we've been talking about, just keep doing it and then things will get better. You know?

00:11:24.520 And you've, you said this a couple of weeks ago, it was like disrupt. It's like, you know

00:11:28.240 what? Go do that thing that you don't want to go do. Right. When the buddy calls you up

00:11:32.100 and says, Hey, do you want to go? Whatever. Probably say yes. Yeah. And you'll be better

00:11:37.440 off for it. So yeah. Agreed. Yeah, for sure. All right, man. All right, cool. Let's get

00:11:41.020 to some questions today. Yeah. Sounds good. So we're going to field questions from the

00:11:44.200 iron council, uh, to learn more about the iron council, go to order of man.com slash iron

00:11:48.260 council. We'll be opening up, uh, membership enrollment roughly in about a month, uh, the

00:11:54.600 15th of December. So stay tuned. Yep. A little less than a month. All right. Brandon Morsey.

00:12:00.400 I've worked for the last four years on me. I've overcome obstacles, face demons, and learned

00:12:05.500 to look at myself in the mirror again. Yet the old tendencies still linger. There's no

00:12:10.900 flame, but the coals are still hot under the surface. Does this stop over more time? I'm

00:12:17.520 constantly checking myself and my mindset to stay on the path. It seems like a part time

00:12:22.340 job, keeping me in line and exhausting. Is there a point where these habits are who we

00:12:29.140 are and not who we strive to be? Great. I really liked the question. I don't know.

00:12:35.480 If they're the, if the habits are the problem or the underlying, uh, thought process or mentality

00:12:42.100 is the problem. And I don't even know if it's a problem. I wouldn't say it's a problem. Um,

00:12:47.500 I have personally, uh, propensity to be very angry. Um, I, I can get angry quickly and I don't

00:12:55.940 think that will ever go away. I don't think that one day I'll just be, you know, a happy,

00:13:00.360 pleasant person and, you know, everything will be wonderful and I'll never be angry again.

00:13:06.900 I just think that things are going to irritate me and I'm going to get angry and I'm going to get

00:13:11.280 pissed off. And so to, to the analogy he was using about the coals, it's not the, it's not the habit.

00:13:20.240 It's what you do with that behavior. So with the propensity for anger or frustration or a short fuse,

00:13:28.120 which is, is me, I'm describing myself. What are the outlets I need? Well, jujitsu is a good outlet

00:13:34.260 for me. Um, physical activity is a good outlet for me. If I'm not doing those things, then I can let

00:13:41.560 the anger that wells up inside of me overtake me very quickly. And I can actually do things that are

00:13:47.940 inappropriate, whether it's, uh, it's, it typically comes across in, in ways that I communicate with

00:13:55.700 people I care most about. That's how it comes across. So if I'm active physically, I noticed that

00:14:02.760 that allows me to harness that, that frustration or the anger or the contention. Um, it gives me an

00:14:12.120 outlet to deal with things that are challenging and frustrating. Um, I've also noticed that just

00:14:19.920 going for a walk will actually calm me down too. So if I'm upset about something, you know,

00:14:26.360 turn the phone off, disengage from social media, don't allow anybody to come into your space

00:14:31.520 and just go for a walk, you know, think about no music. I don't put music on. I don't listen to

00:14:36.620 a podcast certainly. Cause that'll piss me off too. Um, depending on the podcast they listen to

00:14:41.760 and just going for a walk, having a little bit of, uh, some time just to decompress and unwind

00:14:48.800 is a big thing for me. So point of the story is I don't think it's the habit. That's the problem.

00:14:56.480 I think it's your underlying personality. And the more, you know, yourself,

00:15:01.200 the more you can equip yourself with proper actions that allow you to deal with the frustrations

00:15:07.760 or the temptations, you know, one temptation might be lust for example. I mean, how many guys do we

00:15:15.920 hear who are dealing with, uh, sex addiction, pornography addiction? It's not the habit. That's

00:15:23.400 the problem because sex, physical release in a healthy relationship is actually a good virtuous,

00:15:32.560 righteous thing. It's when it's inappropriate that it's not. So what's the behavior, what's the

00:15:39.620 trigger? And then what can you do differently so that you don't act out in inappropriate ways?

00:15:46.680 Absolutely. I feel, yeah, I might go a little off tangent here, but this is one of the dangers

00:15:54.120 when we get wrapped up in what should or should not be. Because if we look at this Ryan and I go,

00:16:01.120 well, I shouldn't have these tendencies or I shouldn't be this way. Then, then we almost like,

00:16:06.380 so if it's stuck with me, then it's like, it's, it almost perpetuates it and makes it worse

00:16:11.760 with this idea that it shouldn't be this way. Right. And, and there's value in just saying,

00:16:16.760 hey, this is, this is, I made up this way, you know, like I've had these experiences and I have

00:16:22.420 these tendencies. So I'm dealing with who is Kip and I've accepted it. And I know I have tendencies

00:16:28.800 to do certain things and I got to watch myself. I got to avoid certain circumstances because of, of,

00:16:34.560 of my upbringing and my experiences and what, what I've made those things mean in my life.

00:16:40.060 And, and there's some, there's some power in just saying it's okay. Like those coals are,

00:16:47.580 are just coals. That's all they are. And, and we all have those coals in our fires that if we're not

00:16:53.860 careful, can catch the house on fire or they can keep us warm and we can actually use them to benefit

00:16:58.880 us in some cases as well. And so I would celebrate who you are as a person. I know it sounds a little

00:17:05.220 foo foo-foo-y, but you know, you're, you're whole and complete. It's amazing what you can accomplish,

00:17:11.940 but we just got to be careful on how we use our talents and our experiences and our mindsets to

00:17:17.920 serve ourselves and others. You know? And, and I think when we need, when we demonize it, it almost

00:17:23.400 makes it, makes it feel like, well, it shouldn't be right. I shouldn't have. It's like, but you are.

00:17:28.940 So what are we going to do with it? And what's still in reality? And it's okay. Yeah. But I I'm

00:17:34.160 in the same camp. Those things will never go away. They'll never go away. Um, and you don't want

00:17:39.060 them to, you know, like I think about my part of who you are angry or get frustrated. You know,

00:17:45.580 when I'm my most productive, when I'm angry and frustrated, like that's when I'm most, like,

00:17:51.440 if there's an issue that I'm dealing with it with work that I'm frustrated about, guess when I'm the

00:17:56.140 most productive when I'm dealing with those issues. So I don't want to lose that part of me.

00:18:01.440 That part of me is good. It's when it's not tempered and controlled. If we're using that

00:18:07.080 analogy of Kohl's, think about this. You're, you're out this weekend, you're with your family,

00:18:11.860 you're on a camp out and you let the campfire burn that evening and you go to bed and you want to wake

00:18:19.360 up and you want to stoke the fire. You want to put a pot of coffee on the fire or cook some bacon for

00:18:25.260 the family so they can wake up and have breakfast. You can see the hot coals. And what do you do?

00:18:29.860 You put a little kindling in there and you blow on those coals, just a little slow blow, a little

00:18:34.740 air on those coals. Those things light up, they ignite dry leaves, dry pine needles. And all of a

00:18:40.180 sudden you have a fire because the coal was still burning. So the coal is a good thing to your point.

00:18:45.600 It keeps you warm. It starts the fire. It cooks the bacon. It could also burn down the forest. So

00:18:51.040 let's be aware of how we're using it. Yeah. I love it. All right. Andy Collins in currently load

00:18:58.340 trailers. I currently load trailers by hand. I currently, yeah, I saw that. I currently load

00:19:05.160 trailers by hand in a distribution center. And to be honest, there will be a point eventually that I

00:19:10.000 cannot physically do the work anymore. How would you suggest finding a new path of work to go towards?

00:19:15.980 I've tried skill trades and didn't have the necessary aptitude in that line of work and was on

00:19:20.820 the path towards being a management, but found that, that it's an area I have no desire to pursue.

00:19:27.000 I'm looking for a career that I can enjoy and feel like I can contribute to others and be satisfied.

00:19:34.340 Well, I got a little distracted because I was thinking about an answer before I heard the entire

00:19:38.520 question. He said that he is not interested in leading. What is he not interested in?

00:19:43.480 Yeah. He says, you know, he's thought about a path towards management, but found that area has no

00:19:49.000 desire to pursue. Okay. Yeah. The only reason I thought about that is because to me, as,

00:19:55.500 as an entrepreneur, I'm thinking to myself, I'm just going to, I need to hire somebody to load the

00:20:00.540 trailer. Yeah, totally. That's where my, my, my first thought was, yeah, I don't want to load the

00:20:06.680 trailer. I want to set up the trailer. I want to do the marketing. Uh, I want to, I want to get the

00:20:12.180 business. I want to grow the business. I want to, I want to do all of that. And I want to hire a couple

00:20:16.180 of kids to load the trailer. Cause I don't want to load the trailer. So that's where, that's where

00:20:20.780 my thought goes. He doesn't sound like he's interested in that. I don't even know if he

00:20:24.900 owns the business necessarily or where he's at, or if that's even a possibility. Uh, but what I would

00:20:30.220 say for somebody, anybody who's not satisfied in their career, I like what you say actually is

00:20:36.120 make the most of it of what you're currently doing. Maybe you can find a new and better way

00:20:41.800 to load trailers that doesn't require as much physical labor. Uh, maybe there's a, a, a better

00:20:49.000 way to, you know, to, to back the truck up or, or, Hey, we need a new place. Cause we need a loading

00:20:53.940 dock. Cause none of us want to kill our backs. Maybe we need new equipment. We need a new lightweight

00:20:58.560 forklift, or we need a lift on the back of one of our trucks. And that will help us load these

00:21:03.380 trailers quicker. There's certain things that you can do, but whatever it is with your business that

00:21:07.720 you're already in, if you can maximize, and I'm stealing this directly from you, Kip,

00:21:12.820 if you can maximize what you're currently doing, everything about your life will get better.

00:21:17.380 And in the meantime, then you can also follow pursuits that are interesting to you. And that's

00:21:22.920 all you do is you follow veins. Like what a lot of people will do is they'll say, well,

00:21:28.280 Hmm, I don't like what I'm doing right now, but maybe I could do this. Well, I can't do that

00:21:33.840 cause I can't make money. Well, maybe I could do this. Well, I can't do that because I don't know

00:21:37.340 anybody. Maybe I could do this. Well, I can't do that cause I don't have capital. And so what they

00:21:41.620 do is they'll disqualify everything that sounds even remotely interesting to them before they even

00:21:47.520 give themselves an opportunity to do it. What I would suggest is pursuing something that is

00:21:53.960 interesting, pursuing something that you're doing when time moves the fastest. Um, I really like

00:22:01.720 coaching type situations. That's my personality. If I'm good at something, I, I feel like I have the

00:22:08.420 heart of a teacher where I actually, I really am excited about teaching people things. If I know

00:22:15.300 something, I want somebody else to know it, whether it's jujitsu or how to hunt, um, or, you know,

00:22:23.180 how to, how to, how to build a cabinet. I really enjoy figuring things out, tinkering with projects,

00:22:29.100 tinkering with mechanics. These are all things that I like, and you can pursue those. And all

00:22:35.720 you have to do is invite one other person to come with you and charge them for it. You know, Hey,

00:22:40.680 I'm going to do this camp out and, uh, I'm bringing four guys. I'm going to teach some survival stuff

00:22:46.960 because I really enjoy doing that. We're going to make fires. We're going to do lean twos. Um,

00:22:52.400 I'm going to show you guys some basic medical survival stuff, and we're going to, uh,

00:22:57.880 learn how to build a fire and I'm not charging a lot for it. I need some help just with some

00:23:04.180 materials and just a little bit of money for my time. So it's, you know, 75 bucks each or a hundred

00:23:08.860 bucks each for the weekend. And, uh, I'll teach you guys some skills and now you're doing something

00:23:14.340 you love and you're making a little bit of money doing it. And you're just, you're finding out if

00:23:19.440 this is something that you could do on a greater scale. So look for things that you're interested in,

00:23:24.200 that you're already doing, that you already enjoy other prompts that you can consider is what are

00:23:29.320 people asking you for advice for? If con, if people are constantly asking advice about, Hey,

00:23:35.760 Ryan, how do I build a website? They're seeing something in you that you might not see in

00:23:40.340 yourself. If they're constantly asking you, Hey, you take beautiful pictures. Like, could you take

00:23:45.440 our family photos? They're seeing something in you that again, you may not recognize in yourself.

00:23:50.920 And so you can look for those little prompts and you can do those things while you're loading trucks

00:23:56.280 and getting really good at loading trucks. So you're being invaluable at work, but also creating

00:24:01.260 something over here on the side. Yeah. That's spot on. I, the, the, and you've already kind of allude

00:24:07.240 to it a little bit, but like Andy, like, and, and obviously we read these questions for everyone

00:24:11.600 it's benefit, but like, be careful. Like those guys that are like, if, if you're where you don't want

00:24:16.560 to be, be careful not to show up weak there, this is not going to serve you. In fact, if it's good,

00:24:22.900 it's going to hinder you because you're going to rob yourself of opportunity for growth in,

00:24:27.640 in what you're currently doing, but you don't know, right? Like let's say Andy's like, man,

00:24:32.380 I hate loading trucks, but man, the logistics and the scheduling of things is really interesting.

00:24:38.920 Well, do you, if you show up poorly and you came to me and it's like, Hey, Kip, I want to learn

00:24:43.400 about the logistics and scheduling of trucks. I'm like, I want to give you a chance. No way.

00:24:48.140 Because you're, you're being lazy and not loading. You're not winning at the very little simple task

00:24:54.200 of loading the truck. So why would I even give you an opportunity? Right. Some far too often. We're

00:24:59.720 like, Oh, this is not my thing. But if I go do this other thing over here, Ryan, then,

00:25:03.200 then I'll show up powerfully. Then I'll, I'll bring it to the table. It's like, no, you won't.

00:25:09.660 If you're lazy where you are now, you're going to be lazy in some other role.

00:25:12.440 So stop, just don't be lazy and like win at it. So then that way people will see something in you

00:25:20.100 and they can trust you because you're consistent and you work hard because I could even see a talent

00:25:27.140 in you, Ryan and go, man, Ryan's so talented here. But if you're flaky with what we do today,

00:25:32.540 I'm still not going to give it to you because I can't rely on you. You're inconsistent.

00:25:38.060 Right. So just don't do that.

00:25:40.760 You know, one of the things that you could do as you're saying this is, I don't know how you measure

00:25:46.460 what you, what you track or what, like, I don't, I don't know what you, what you look at, but

00:25:50.900 let's say that you load 5,000 pounds and, and you actually spend some time and you calculate it.

00:25:58.920 And, and I'm just throwing out numbers here. So I could be completely off, but let's say it takes

00:26:03.060 to load a thousand pounds, uh, takes you 30 minutes. I don't, whatever, right.

00:26:08.760 It takes you 30 minutes, track it and see, see if you can get a thousand pounds down to 28 minutes,

00:26:15.400 down to 25 minutes, down to 20 minutes and do that. That little competition right there will allow you

00:26:22.020 to be better and make it more enjoyable. You'll, you'll have other guys that want to compete with

00:26:27.920 you. And all of a sudden now you're going to get noticed because you're leading and your boss is

00:26:33.160 like, man, why all of a sudden is our entire crew so productive? Like this used to take us four hours

00:26:39.720 and what was taking us four hours is now only taking us two hours. Like what, what, what's going on here?

00:26:44.820 And to your point, they're going to start looking for what's happening and they're going to notice,

00:26:49.060 oh, it's Andy. Andy's the one who's doing this showing up powerfully. All the other guys are

00:26:53.460 excited about being here. Cause he's here, man, this guy's a natural leader, right? Like,

00:26:57.920 yeah, man. And, and I know Andy, by the way, like in college, I loaded, I loaded trucks at a

00:27:03.440 distribution center. Yeah. I stand at it out of the back of a semi conveyor belt, giant boxes coming

00:27:08.940 at you. And you're just loading trucks all day. And, and it's hard work, man. I smell like cardboard.

00:27:15.660 I know it's kind of weird, but I totally smell like cardboard all the time. But it's funny when I,

00:27:20.560 when I went to go leave there, the guy's like, dude, Kip, we wanted to make you a trainer. I'm like,

00:27:25.560 why? Cause you loaded the truck so good.

00:27:28.140 Yeah. I'm like, yeah, that's funny. Of course. When I'm like, Hey, what does that mean? And he's

00:27:32.700 like, well, you get a t-shirt and you get a trade. And I'm like, wait, no comp. You're like, and,

00:27:38.400 and my income goes up by how much? Oh no, it doesn't go up. You're like, no, I'm good. Thanks

00:27:43.220 though. But you don't get out, but you don't have to load the truck all the time. Save your back.

00:27:46.500 Oh, that's true. Okay. That's true. All right. Um, Steven church, what Thanksgiving traditions do

00:27:55.220 you carry on from your youth and maybe just add maybe from your youth or Thanksgiving traditions?

00:28:01.040 I don't know. I mean, I, we get these questions a lot. I, I'm not real nostalgic on this kind of

00:28:07.180 stuff. So these questions don't really resonate with me too deeply. I'm sure I do the same things

00:28:11.420 as everybody else, you know, you like break the wishbone. Um, we never do that actually. So,

00:28:18.420 Oh, you don't. Yeah. No, not at all. I don't know. Eat Turkey. I don't know what,

00:28:23.000 how you cooking your Turkey you like deep frying this year was a patch, spatch,

00:28:29.220 spatch cocking it, whatever. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. No. Where you like

00:28:33.380 splay it open. Right. Yeah. Um, I don't know. I'm going to sound like my kids are with their mom

00:28:39.900 this year. So you're going, uh, you're going to, uh, um, golden Corral or something. Yeah,

00:28:47.480 exactly. It's the, it's, it's my first year of doing this where, you know, the kids are on this

00:28:52.700 holiday. Maybe possibly. Yeah. I mean, for Thanksgiving, I've got a couple of, I appreciate

00:28:58.140 the invite, you know? So yeah, I've got a couple of invites. Um, and so I'm sure I'll find somewhere

00:29:03.000 to go eat something. You should, you should go like, I, I, and then I'm not, I'm not babying you

00:29:09.700 or anything, but I, I don't think that. Yeah. I remember having my first holidays alone. Um,

00:29:16.420 they were, they were horrible and I didn't want to go with anybody, but it was, I hated it.

00:29:22.480 So, yeah, I don't. Yeah, no. And I will, I've got a couple of invites, you know, and I'll, and I'll,

00:29:28.440 and I'll find something to do. And I appreciate the invite from you too. And I, and I'll take that

00:29:32.300 into consideration. So, but yeah, I'll find something to do. Um, so anyways, it's not about me. I'm not

00:29:36.660 trying to be like, well, I don't have anything to do. Like who can somebody, you know? So, uh,

00:29:41.560 but as far as traditions, I don't know. One tradition I always liked is the day after Thanksgiving,

00:29:47.080 we'd always go cut down a Christmas tree. That was always a cool thing. I like doing that.

00:29:51.540 You do that on the Friday. Yeah. Um, but yeah, just same things as everybody else. I'm sure,

00:29:59.900 you know, cool. Yeah. We boycott black Friday. That's something we've done for the last eight

00:30:06.160 years. Yeah. We, we hop in the car and we drive to lava hot Springs. Oh, you do? We rent an Airbnb

00:30:13.640 and we just hang out lava all weekend. That's cool. I like that. It's super like lazy. Just like

00:30:20.000 watch Netflix, eat scones from the wagon wheel diner and hot and hop in hot water during the evening.

00:30:27.380 Like that's all we do. Perfect. I think that's perfect. Our kids love it. So I don't do,

00:30:31.920 I don't like, I don't like sales in general. Like the one that bothers me is 4th of July sales,

00:30:37.840 uh, Memorial day sales, veteran day sales. People ask me like, Oh, are you guys going to do a sale

00:30:43.780 for Memorial day? I'm like, no, it's fucking Memorial day. Good to work. And you're asking me for

00:30:49.260 10% off on a t-shirt. Like get out of here. I don't know. Maybe I need to be better at that.

00:30:54.780 But I, so when you said boycott black Friday, I'll do sales. I just, I just think if you're

00:31:00.740 going to do veterans day, like it's veterans day, it's not 20% off of your shit from China day. 0.64

00:31:07.740 Yeah. So yeah, I'm with you on that.

00:31:12.740 That's funny. All right. Uh, Kyle, uh, Christian, uh, I would like to hear about each of your first

00:31:21.600 hunting experiences, probably yours more than mine and what you have learned about yourself,

00:31:26.920 uh, hunting. Uh, my first hunting experience was with Colin Cottrell and he invited deer deer. Yeah.

00:31:37.340 White tail. He invited me out and he was like, Hey man, let's, um, let's go on. I want to take

00:31:41.940 hunting. I'm like, I've never been hunting. He's like, yeah, that's what I want to take you.

00:31:44.760 I'm like, it's super cool. I didn't know this by the way, until you brought this up last week.

00:31:47.880 Oh, you didn't know just to invite you. And that was your first hunting trip. Yeah. That's my first

00:31:52.320 hunting trip. Yeah. That's cool. So I was like, cool. I'll, I'll go hunting with you. And I'm like,

00:31:56.060 what do I, what do I need? He's like, well, we're going to kill two deer each. And so one with a rifle

00:32:00.140 and one with a bow. And I'm like, well, I don't have either. He's like, yeah, we'll go buy,

00:32:04.140 like go buy something. I'm like, oh yeah. Okay. I guess I could do that. Right. Cause like,

00:32:07.600 isn't that what we do? We come up with all the excuses. Like, yeah, I can't do it. I don't do it.

00:32:12.340 You're like, let's go bow hunting. I'm like, I don't have a bow. And you're like, well,

00:32:15.220 you could get one. Yeah. So I go buy a rifle and buy a bow and I go out there and I'm sitting there

00:32:22.660 and a deer comes in and the guy that we're hunting with, uh, he, um, he, he was trying to,

00:32:31.480 he's trying to manage his property. So he wanted to shoot deer that were not, that didn't have good

00:32:37.100 genetics. So if people know anything about deer population, you have certain deer that are mature

00:32:43.620 and old, uh, but their genetics aren't good. Like they don't grow good horns and you don't want

00:32:50.640 those, those deer breeding. You want good genetics. If you're trying to grow a good ranch. And this

00:32:56.120 wasn't high fenced, this was just public land. That's private land, but it's not high fenced.

00:33:00.620 Yeah. And so he's like, Hey, I just want to shoot deer out of here that are mature old, but aren't good

00:33:08.900 genetics. We just need to get them out of the gene pool. So this deer comes in and Colin's like,

00:33:13.920 that's a good deer. Like shoot that deer. I'm like, that's looks like Bambi. Cause it just has 0.94

00:33:18.280 these like little horns. And I'm like, that looks like Bambi. He's like, if you're not going to shoot 0.99

00:33:22.600 it, I'm going to shoot it. And I'm like, okay, I'll shoot it. And he's like, all right, shoot it.

00:33:26.460 And I had my phone on my knee and I had my rifle on my scope or on my, uh, my shooting stick.

00:33:33.540 And I was about to shoot it. And my phone fell off my knee and Siri was like, I'm sorry. I did not

00:33:41.180 recognize your command or whatever she said. I'm like, and the deer didn't hear it. And it was like

00:33:47.720 75, 80 yards away. And so I took a shot and I didn't know. I'm like, like, I know I hit it. I'm

00:33:53.780 like, I hit it. He's like, that was a great shot. I'm like, I wasn't, I don't know. Like it ran off.

00:33:58.440 I didn't, I didn't know if they just died or what. Yeah. You thought it would maybe just drop

00:34:03.000 right there. That's what I thought. And he's like, no, it's a good shot. He's like, did you see

00:34:07.020 where it went? I'm like, no, I just like, I shot it. And then I was just gone. And he's like, okay,

00:34:12.080 I watched it. So this is the value of going with somebody who's hunted before. Yeah. So we go up to

00:34:17.760 where I shot it and we found blood and we're looking around and I was a little discouraged. Cause I'm like,

00:34:22.040 I don't know. Did I hit it good? Or he's like, no, it's dead. We just need to find where it is.

00:34:25.940 And it was like 40 yards away. We found it and it was dead. And it was awesome. Like it felt

00:34:30.640 really good. It was kind of sad. And it, and I have it, it's out in my living room. And it's this,

00:34:35.060 it's like, it's called crab claw. Cause it has these like long, just single horns and just like

00:34:41.040 two little crab claws at the top. So it's an old deer. It's a really old deer, but it's a, it's just

00:34:47.640 a weird rack. It's bad genes. So it was like the perfect deer we wanted to get out of there.

00:34:52.620 So what did you, and then, Oh, good. What's that? No, go ahead. I was just going to ask you

00:34:56.620 just to make sure that you share, like, what did you learn about yourself? Cause that was the second

00:35:00.620 part of this question. Yeah. So I'll, so let me explain the next deer that I shot. So two days

00:35:05.360 later I shot, I shot another deer. Uh, it was a young deer. It was a spike. I probably like now I

00:35:12.520 probably wouldn't want to shoot that deer. That wouldn't be a deer I would shoot or try to shoot. Um,

00:35:18.280 I had an experience last week where I inadvertently shot a very young buck and we'll just leave that

00:35:25.840 story for another day. I killed him and harvested him and he's in my freezer, but, um, you know,

00:35:33.320 so it worked, it, it was a success, but not the way I wanted it to play out. But I shot this deer

00:35:39.460 with my bow and I gut shot at it and clay and calling the guys we were with were like, Hey,

00:35:47.040 let's just let it bed down. It's not dead. Just let it bed down. We went into town. We went and had

00:35:52.240 dinner. We waited like three hours, came back out, found it. It was still alive and I had to kill it.

00:35:58.160 That wasn't cool. Yeah. I didn't like that. Um, you know, but what I learned about myself is I'm

00:36:04.100 really impatient. That's, and I knew that already and hunting will draw that out. Oh, for sure.

00:36:10.740 So I, that that's been helpful. Um, and then also I get really excited when I see a big,

00:36:17.620 nice buck that I want to shoot. And so I get buck fever is what it's called. And you end up just doing

00:36:23.200 dumb things. You just make bad shots. When I was in Minnesota last week, this giant buck came in and

00:36:29.560 I'm like, Oh, like he was, he was a beautiful buck, big, mature buck, kind of a weird left antler.

00:36:37.420 Um, but a beautiful buck. And I'm like, Oh, this is awesome. I'm going to shoot this thing. And I

00:36:43.280 drew back. I went through all of my routine and I shot and I thought I got shot at him. I'm like,

00:36:48.700 Oh man, like I knew I was, I was pretty certain he was going to die. I just knew it was going to take

00:36:54.160 a while to find him. Yeah. Especially with an arrow, right? Like that's going to take an arrow

00:36:58.300 much longer. Yeah. And the arrow didn't pass through him like it. So it just stuck, you know,

00:37:04.520 I'm like, Oh, this is not good. And we spent hours, we spent two hours, maybe a little longer

00:37:10.660 that night. We went out the next morning and spent a couple hours looking and just never could find

00:37:15.300 the thing. And actually a couple of days after I left the guys that I was with, um, Tom and his

00:37:21.580 grandson, uh, they actually saw the buck and the arrow wasn't there, but the wound was still there.

00:37:30.860 And I shot it in its back hip and his, I won't say his grandson's name just out of respect, but

00:37:36.300 the grandson, he's a, he's a great kid. I love the kid. He's awesome. He's a, he can find blood.

00:37:41.600 He's a little blood hound. He can help track deer. He's awesome. But I'm not going to say his name just

00:37:45.180 out of respect. Um, but yeah, he saw the deer. He's like, that's an awesome deer. His left side

00:37:50.920 was weird, but he was awesome. And he had a big hole in his back hip where I had shot him with the

00:37:56.060 arrow. And he's like, other than that, he looked healthy. So he was fine. So it felt a little better

00:38:00.240 than they do. He's going to live. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I just do dumb things when I'm rushed or when

00:38:07.660 I'm anxious or not prepared. So I actually, so the, the moral of the story is for me is to really be

00:38:16.580 prepared. So in my garage right now, I'm actually building, uh, a 17 foot tripod. So I can practice

00:38:24.680 archery, not just from my workout. I can practice from no. So I can practice from, um, shooting,

00:38:34.000 shooting down. Cause with a whitetail hunt, you're shooting from a tree stand or a tripod.

00:38:37.660 So the angle changes and that changes the trajectory of your arrow. Cause I've got physics

00:38:43.240 and gravity, gravity is in play. Yeah. In a different way. Yeah. Well, gravity is less,

00:38:48.060 if it impacts your arrow less, if you're shooting down. So you need to actually aim lower. If you're

00:38:54.720 shooting from above, you need to aim lower because gravity is not going to impact your arrow as much

00:39:00.520 as if it would, if you were shooting level. Yeah. Like all sorts of weird stuff. You would

00:39:06.960 never know until you just go out in the field and you learn it. That's cool. Yeah. Super cool. Um,

00:39:14.340 I want to get to this other question and I know we're, we have a hard stop at the top of the hour.

00:39:18.000 So I'm going to skip my, plus my first hunting experience was, isn't as entertaining. All right.

00:39:25.160 So Tyler Smith, we're hopping over to Facebook here. Why is it easier to perform or excel at work

00:39:31.100 than it is at home? I recently promoted to E seven senior non-commissioned officer in the military

00:39:36.700 and just also got picked up to be a commissioned officer. So things are going great professionally,

00:39:41.420 but at home, I feel like my wife and I frequently are on the verge of arguments. My kids and I have

00:39:47.060 good relationships, but could always be better. And I feel like there's never enough time to spend with

00:39:52.160 them. And my finances are a mess. We have never been able to really get ahead of our debts.

00:39:57.020 So I'm starting a second job this week to work on that front, but I feel like it's going to take

00:40:02.760 years to fix our financial mess. I think it's easier because the role at work is more defined

00:40:09.100 and definitive than the role at home is. I think that's the ultimate thing. You know,

00:40:14.100 when you go to work, especially as, as a military man and congratulations on your promotion,

00:40:19.000 everything is lined out. Like, you know, what needs to be done. You know, what performance,

00:40:24.140 you have a deadline, uh, you know, yeah, you know, what performance is, uh, you know,

00:40:29.860 what marks or measures, uh, whether that's a success or, or not a success. Uh, and, and so

00:40:37.680 everything is measured. Yeah. It's, I mean, it's just really funny, right? Just, just interrupt your

00:40:44.160 thought really quick. Cause like E seven, right? Like there's no E seven for marriage. You know,

00:40:48.560 it's like, dude, I reached E five. Really good job as a husband. You know, there's nothing.

00:40:56.280 Right. Yeah. There's nothing. And even, you know, because we like to talk about jujitsu so much,

00:41:01.920 it's the same thing. You get your blue belt, you get your brown belt, you get your purple belt.

00:41:05.160 You're like, okay, I'm getting better. Like I know these moves now, or, uh, you know,

00:41:09.860 I know this submission or I know how to defend myself in this situation. And so there's actual

00:41:15.640 tangible metric of improvement and there's acknowledgement of it. You get your black 0.94

00:41:21.240 belt, you know, or you get your E seven at home, going outside and playing basketball with your son

00:41:28.360 doesn't really move the needle the same way it does. Don't, don't get me wrong. It moves the needle.

00:41:35.920 Yeah. But you don't see the needle moving. Yeah. Like you, you don't like if, for example,

00:41:42.300 if you're looking at your bank account, he's 30. Yeah, exactly. But if you go and you,

00:41:47.860 you're talking about your financial situation, if you go put 10 grand in your bank account,

00:41:51.740 you can pull up your bank account and say, okay, well, I had 30 grand in my bank account and now

00:41:55.860 I have $40,000. Like I'm doing pretty good. Yeah. But if you go outside and you play basketball with

00:42:02.300 your kid for a half hour and you joke and you play and you're having a good time, you're having fun.

00:42:07.060 And he's like, thanks dad. I love you. You know, that feels good. And then you go inside and his

00:42:11.340 buddy calls and he's like, Hey, can you come over? He's like, yeah, I'll come over. And he leaves

00:42:15.040 and it's like, well, shit. Like I thought we were having a good time and you were having a good time

00:42:21.760 and you did move the needle, but it, there wasn't any, there wasn't any metric of improvement

00:42:27.500 immediately, you know? And that, and that's the hardest thing is that this is why I think if you

00:42:33.980 take somebody who's a contractor, for example, a builder, like you could drive around town and they're

00:42:39.660 so excited. Like I built that house. I did the electric on that house. Oh, I did that yard work.

00:42:45.500 And they're so excited because they can actually see the, the, the result of their effort, but you

00:42:52.420 can't see that as easily at home. And so when things are wrong and you want to improve, like we all do,

00:43:00.220 you don't think about going to talk to your wife. Cause like, how do you measure that your

00:43:06.440 relationship is better because you had a good conversation. So you think, well, I'll just go,

00:43:11.480 I'll just go get another job and put more money in the bank account. Cause that I can measure that.

00:43:15.920 And that that's what the family needs. And that might be what the family needs,

00:43:19.280 but that's not all that the family needs. So I think what you can do is you can start looking at ways

00:43:27.360 to quantify your success as a father and a husband. And so playing 30 minutes with your kid,

00:43:35.180 playing basketball for 30 minutes with your kid. That's a, that's a metric you can measure

00:43:40.220 and you should measure it. Like, Hey, I played 30 minutes. So this week we, we spent two hours in

00:43:47.460 the driveway this week. Okay, good. Next week. See if you can do two and a half hours, right? Or you can

00:43:53.900 say, all right, we got three meals a day, uh, seven days a week. That's 21 meals this week.

00:44:00.540 We had 10 meals together as a family. We had every dinner together as a family. We had a few

00:44:06.360 lunches together as a family. And we did two breakfasts as a family. So we did 10, 10 out of

00:44:10.900 21. Can we do 11 next week? I think we can do 11. Let's try to do 11. And so you can find things that

00:44:17.700 you can quantify and put metrics to with your, with your wife. You want to have a good relationship

00:44:24.860 with her? Look, I went through a divorce. And so people say, well, who are you to say? I'm just

00:44:29.660 telling you what I wish I would have done. And one thing I wish I would have done is had more of these

00:44:34.780 conversations instead of zoning out and having a few beers at night and getting drunk. I wish I would

00:44:40.160 have talked to her and I could say, okay, my wife and I had a great conversation for 20 minutes tonight

00:44:45.440 about how her day went and how my day went or, you know, what, what the rest of our week looks like,

00:44:50.840 or, you know, what she's excited about for Christmas. And so 20 minutes. So I would write

00:44:56.180 that in my journal, 20 minute talk with my wife. And then you look at your journal on Sunday and

00:45:00.420 you're like, you know, I spent, I, I talked with my wife for, for three hours this week,

00:45:05.900 specifically about like just her and I undivided three hours worth of time. Can I get four hours next

00:45:12.480 week? Yeah. I think I'm going to try that. And I wish I would have done things like that

00:45:17.040 because then that allows us as men to quantify. And sometimes people will say things like, well,

00:45:23.260 that's disingenuous. Um, you know, you should just do it. That sounds all fine and great,

00:45:29.780 but that doesn't work. So anything that we care about, we invest in and we quantify it and we track

00:45:39.340 it and we measure it. And then we look for ways to improve. You could look at it with sex. Hey,

00:45:46.020 I want to be more intimate with my wife. So last week we had sex once. That's not enough for me.

00:45:53.180 So next week will be five seconds. That's right. So I want to have more sex with my wife. Okay. 1.00

00:46:00.180 That's fair. I think most guys listening would, would probably fall into that camp. Like I'd like

00:46:04.980 to have more sex with my wife. Okay. What does that take? Well, I got to take her out. You know, 1.00

00:46:11.260 I can't just show up naked, you know, looking like an orangutan at the end of the bed, thinking that

00:46:15.940 she's going to be turned on and want me to jump her bones. Right. So, okay. Well, date night.

00:46:22.440 I've noticed that if I take my wife out on a date and I take her to this particular restaurant and we

00:46:27.720 laugh and we play and we have a few drinks, if that's your thing, or we go, you know, bowling or go see a

00:46:33.300 movie or go see a play, the odds of me getting lucky improve. It's like, why wouldn't you document

00:46:39.820 that? And so if you want to have more sex, maybe do that two nights a week instead of one night.

00:46:46.000 The point I'm making here is that whatever you want to get better in your life, you have to measure

00:46:52.600 it. And this is our battle planner. I have it on my desk because I go through it every day. And the

00:46:58.720 first quote on there, I don't know if people can see right there. That first quote is this,

00:47:05.340 that which is measured improves that which is measured improves. So the reason you're so good

00:47:12.760 at work, like most guys are, is because you think that's your job that you think that's your only job

00:47:17.420 and you know what you need to do. So you do it, but at home, you don't measure it like you do at work.

00:47:23.680 And that's a different and differentiating factor. Excellent. And we were up on time. So

00:47:31.000 we'll go ahead and wrap you good. Yeah. I mean, anything you want to add to that? I've got a

00:47:35.480 minute or two. If you, um, no, I mean, I, I always use the analogy, you know, we're talking about

00:47:41.160 hunting, you know, but I always use the analogy of like shooting arrows too. It's not fun. It's not

00:47:46.260 just fun when you don't track. Like we, you and I would never go out to a field and just say, Hey,

00:47:51.400 what's sling arrows down that way. It sounds so dumb after the first arrow, you'd be like,

00:47:58.220 okay, why are we even doing this? Yeah. Right. But if you went out there and you painted like a red

00:48:03.140 circle and you're like, let's see if we could drop it into the red circle changes the game,

00:48:07.180 right. It makes the shooting the arrow more enjoyable. So, and that's what tracking does.

00:48:16.040 Obviously we get results that way, but we get, but we enjoy it a little bit more because we actually

00:48:20.260 know like that, that we're working towards something right. That we're on a path of growth

00:48:26.300 and improvement and there's purpose and fulfillment in just doing that act. Even sometimes, even if we

00:48:33.500 fell at it. Yeah. Yep. I look at guys like Cam Haynes, you know, that guy shoots every day, every

00:48:41.900 day he shoots. But if you watch him, his videos, like he's shooting at 120 yards. Is he going to shoot

00:48:47.940 an elk at 120 yards? I mean, maybe, but I'd be willing to bet that he'd like to be closer to 60 to 80

00:48:55.020 yards, but he shoots at 120 yards because he wants to prove he can do it. And then not only that, he puts

00:49:00.960 a balloon out and he tries to hit the balloon. This is exactly what we're saying. So this is a guy

00:49:06.240 that does something every single day. And yet he finds little ways to try to improve by measuring

00:49:13.020 it and making it more enjoyable by hitting, you know, a six inch, eight inch inflated balloon at 120

00:49:21.260 yards. Yeah. This is the same concept. And it's interesting to play with this thought a little

00:49:26.680 bit. Like I think about jujitsu, right? Like what's the measure for jujitsu? The measure is

00:49:30.820 open map. Yeah. Is this working? Can I, can I actually catch someone in a Kimura? Can I do

00:49:37.060 this mission? Does it actually work? Can I escape? It's a measurement. Not everyone goes open map

00:49:42.260 though. And it's because, because they don't want to face, is it actually working either? So I think

00:49:48.760 there's a human tendency to go, Hey, I'm doing fine, but I'm not going to track. Right. Cause I may

00:49:54.980 not want to face the music and go, you know, maybe I, maybe I'm not as good as I think I am.

00:50:00.420 Right. Maybe it's not actually working. Right. And, and so I'm going to feel good in just showing up,

00:50:05.940 but I'm not going to measure it as much because I don't want to deal in reality. And I think there

00:50:11.500 might be a little bit of tendency that we might have there as well.

00:50:14.840 I had, um, I actually had a really interesting experience several weeks ago. I went to train with

00:50:19.260 Tanner Guzzi. A lot of guys know Tanner, you know, got Tanner. He came down. He's like, Hey,

00:50:23.000 do you want to go train jujitsu? I'm like, yeah, I'd love to. So we went and trained and I was

00:50:26.600 looking forward to just like training with him, like him and I rolling in this, uh, this woman

00:50:31.320 comes up and she's kind of a smaller little thing. And she's like, Hey, can I train with you guys?

00:50:35.960 It was Saturday. So it was open mat only. There was no instructions, just open mat. And I'm kind of

00:50:40.520 like, Oh, you know, like this woman, she's little, like, and, and I'm like, yeah, come train with us.

00:50:46.360 And she goes and gets her gi and she's a Brown belt. I'm like, Oh shit. Like, okay. Like this could get

00:50:52.380 interesting. So I like how she asked without the belt first. She asked me without the belt. She had

00:50:57.820 her, she had her gi pants on and a rash guard, but she didn't have her top or her belt on.

00:51:02.860 And so she comes and she's got her Brown belt on and I've got 60 pounds on her, like easy 60 pounds, 1.00

00:51:09.740 maybe more. Yeah. And I could not submit her. And she said something interesting to me and she wasn't

00:51:17.080 rude about it. She couldn't submit me. Uh, no, I think she had just moved there or she was from

00:51:24.320 Hawaii and she was either visiting or had just moved there. And, and she, she said something

00:51:30.520 interesting. She couldn't submit me cause I have 70 pounds. Like she could grab my, I could give her 1.00

00:51:35.600 my arm and she probably still couldn't do anything with it. Right. Yeah. And so I couldn't submit her

00:51:41.180 cause she's way too technical. She couldn't submit me cause she just didn't have the size. 1.00

00:51:45.480 And she said something interesting. She's like, Hey, I think when we roll next, we should just

00:51:52.240 flow. She's like, because that last time we rolled didn't serve either of us.

00:51:58.820 Like stalemating almost. Yeah. We stalemated. She's like, I couldn't do anything against you

00:52:03.900 cause you're way bigger than me. And you couldn't do anything against me because you're just not

00:52:08.360 as skilled to be able to do anything. So let's just flow. Yeah. And I was like, Oh, that's cool.

00:52:14.480 So that's exactly what we did. The next time we rolled her and I just, we just flowed and you

00:52:20.640 caught me here, let her go. I caught her there, let her go. And I was like, Oh, that's, that's

00:52:26.240 actually really cool. Like it was cool of her to say that because she recognized me just laying on

00:52:31.520 top of her. Isn't going to help her. It's not going to help me. So she came up with a solution

00:52:37.420 that would serve both of us. I don't know. I just thought it was a pretty cool experience and it was a

00:52:42.440 way for us to just engage in something that served both of us. Yeah. Yeah. I like that.

00:52:48.400 I like that. All right, sir. Well, as always, you can connect with us on Facebook. That's

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00:54:43.180 Mickler. That's right. All right, guys. Appreciate you. Um, hopefully next week is a little better

00:54:48.820 for me and I don't have as many gripe story. Your first world problems. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully,

00:54:56.300 uh, I don't hurt myself. Pickle ball anymore. Pickle ball. I got to come up with a better story

00:55:02.340 than that. Yeah. That'd be embarrassing to say. Jiu Jitsu, that chick, that Brown belt, like 1.00

00:55:06.880 twisted my leg. She, she, he hooked me and I didn't tap and snap my knee and calf and everything

00:55:13.220 else. All right. Well, anyways, guys, you have a great day. Uh, we'll be back on Friday until

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Order of Man - November 22, 2023

Bad Habits or Destructive Tendencies, Why Work Life is Easier Than Home Life, and That Which is Measured Improves ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

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