BRECKEN MICHLER ｜ The Adventure of a Lifetime (Our Moose Hunting Story)
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Ryan Michler sits down with one of his favorite hunting partners, Brecken Michler, to talk all things hunting, lifting, and life in general. We talk about the importance of being a man of action, and how to become a better one.
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You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart
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your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time. Every time.
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You are not easily deterred or defeated. Rugged. Resilient. Strong. This is your life. This is who
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you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done,
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you can call yourself a man. What's up guys? This is Ryan Michler,
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the host and the founder of the order of man podcast and movement. I'm glad that you're here.
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We've got a little bit of a different one for you today. I'm here in my office with one of my
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favorite people on the planet. Also my favorite hunting buddy on the planet. So we're going to
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get to that in just a minute. I'll explain who that is. A lot of you guys probably already know.
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But before we do just want to make a quick mention. If you're here for the first time that we're having
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conversations with great men, trying to glean information from them on how to become better
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men ourselves. We've also got our 30 days to battle ready program available. That's a free
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program available. That's 17 emails over 30 days. That's going to help you get on track
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and really make the most of the end of this year. We're in the fourth quarter. So let's finish strong
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so we can roll into the new year better than it was for 2022. All right, guys, with that said,
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like I said earlier, I'm here in my office with my, one of my favorite humans and definitely my
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favorite hunting partner. And that's my son, Mr. Brecken Michler, man in the making himself.
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Which happens to be my office, which happens to be in our house.
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Good. I'm sore from benching yesterday. My chest is really sore, but other than that, pretty good.
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Hmm. Do you get sore immediately? It usually takes me a day or two.
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Yeah. It usually takes me like one night and then I feel it in the morning.
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Maybe because you haven't been benching as much as you should be is why you're so sore.
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Or I haven't been benching for like two weeks now or something like that.
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I think it's actually three weeks. No, because we had the legacy, skip that one. Then we had like
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an off week, went, then we had the main event and then our moose hunt. So it's been two weeks
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It's always so busy. I'm amazed at how busy it always is. Always have something going on,
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whether it's an event or a hunt or this or that, there's always something to do.
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Yeah. And I felt pretty good. I broke a PR on squat yesterday. So 215 for five. And then
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I deadlifted 255 for one. So it's only 40 pounds away from my max in football season. So yeah. And
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I didn't deadlift for two weeks. So I feel pretty good about that.
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I've been really, actually, I've been really inspired by watching you because I'd never
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really got into lifting when I was a kid. Yeah. I did a little bit here and there when I was in
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football, but it just wasn't, wasn't a thing for me. Yeah. I never really enjoyed it all that much.
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Like it's hard just to lift weights. I would rather throw a football or jujitsu where you're
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actually going against somebody else, like more dynamic than lifting. You are going against someone
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while you're lifting weights. Well, you're going against the bar, the weight. Yeah. But what I'm
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saying is, I know, I know what you're saying. It's just, it's more dynamic. So it's all, I'm not
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saying it's bad or wrong or like if, if it's something that's cool for you, man, whatever it is,
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just do it. But I just was never able to get into any sort of consistent lifting. The most I was
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able to do was CrossFit. But again, that's a little bit more dynamic than your traditional
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power lifting session. Cause you could do competitions. Well, there is competitions
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in power lifting, but I'm saying at the gym, when you do wads, like you have other people to go
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against while at the gym, while you're power lifting, you're only going against like yourself in
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the bar. Yeah. Maybe it's a focus thing for me. Like it's, it's hard for me to focus on one thing
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for a sustained period of time. Yeah. That's true actually. Because at CrossFit, it's like do
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burpees. Okay. You did 10 of those now do 10 wall balls. Okay. Now you did that. Now do
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overhead squats, you know, it's like bouncing around. Yeah. The hardest workouts at CrossFit are
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the chipper wads where it's like do all hundred. She loves those. Yeah. And that's where we differ
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on that. But where it's like a hunt, do a hundred of something like a hundred. Can I do 10 and then
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something else and come back and do 10 rounds and much rather do that. Yeah. You seem very tired
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today. I am. You need to wake up. It's weird. Cause we go to sleep like eight 30 and then wake up at
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four 30, but I've been waking up at like six 30 now. So I have two hours of sleep, extra sleep from
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the moose hunt. So yeah, you got like 10 hours of sleep last night. Yeah. I just need to catch up on
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it. No, you only got eight hours. Cause you went to bed at 10 last night. No, nine, nine, nine last
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night. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, I thought I'd have you on because we wanted to have you as a special
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guest because we had something very exciting take place last week. Stop yawning. I know I'm tired.
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Something very exciting. Your mullet by the way is looking radical. Thank you. Anyways, we had
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something very exciting happen last week, which was our moose hunt. And what's cool in the state
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of Maine, it was not cool, but is that you have to draw out for a moose tag. And we drew out for a
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bull moose tag earlier in the year. And we have been putting in for three years, three years. And it
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usually, not usually, but for a lot of people, it could take 20, 25, 30 years to ever draw out a
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tag. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. John Milan, a friend of ours, he was the one who actually texted
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me. And he's like, bro, you drew out for this moose tag. I'm like, what? I was just putting in
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for points. So for those of you who don't know how the system works and every state's a little
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different, but they're all very similar in the way they draw these out is you put in to draw out.
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And if you don't get a tag, then you get a series of points and the odds of you drawing out
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in future years are higher, the more points that you have. So we were just putting in to get our
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points. And I never expected after three years, we draw a tag. Yeah. And I think all the guides and
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people up North thought it was pretty crazy that we drew out in three years. Yeah. You know,
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as interesting as once we drew out for that, we got bombarded in emails and physical letters,
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mail. Yeah. From guide services, from butchers, from taxidermists, all wanting to solicit our
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business. It was crazy. It's interesting here in Maine, how many, it's a big deal. I think they do
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it, where do they do the draw? Do they do it in Kennebunk or somewhere like that? I can't remember
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exactly. I mean, that might not be right, but they do a draw and it's a big event. Like they actually
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turn it into like a festival or something for the moose lottery. Now, obviously we didn't go down.
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They do like moose calling there and like see who has the best call in the state of Maine or
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whatever. It's pretty cool. We didn't hear much calling when we were out there. No, we heard like
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a cows, like one cow call once, but the rut was pretty much over. So. And so what, what is the
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rut? Again, there's, there's probably a lot of guys listening that know what that is. And then
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there's probably a lot of people who are listening who don't know what we're talking about. It's just the
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breeding season for an animal pretty much. Yeah. That's what it is. It's when the, it's when the
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females go into heat. Do you know what that means? Not really, but like. Basically their hormones are
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raring and ready to go. And then they, they have a scent or something. I'm assuming it's a scent
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that the bulls and the calls that the bulls pick up on. They're like, oh, it's time, time to breed.
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Yeah. And what's interesting about this, and you're actually learning this too,
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not to the extent obviously, is that when it's the rut, other, otherwise pretty intelligent animals
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start doing dumb things. Yeah. Like the bulls, whether it's elk or bucks, a deer or bulls and
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moose, the males start acting like fools. Like they hear a call and they are rushing through the woods,
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it's coming straight to that. And it could be the hunter just sitting there ready for them. It's
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crazy. It's crazy. And they don't, uh, they, they aren't as careful and cautious as they normally
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are. That's what gets them killed in the rut. But that's, that's humans too. Yeah. You know,
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like, like you, as you like girls, it's like, oh girl, and you girls in the brain and you just
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start acting like a fool. It's like, man, and it's not unique to you. It's, it's, we all do it as men.
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Yeah. It's pretty, it's kind of funny thinking about it, but yeah, I don't even know. It's
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funny thinking about it that we do that. Well, I mean, we're animals too, right? Yeah. It's very
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similar. I mean, obviously different in the way that we are, our mating typically is different.
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Like we have typically, not everybody, but typically, you know, you have one person that
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you're faithful to. And, but obviously it's not like that in the, in the animal kingdom.
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So the rut was over last week, which means unfortunately that the bulls aren't acting
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as dumb. Now they're wising up a little bit better. And not reacting to calls and that type
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of stuff. Yeah. Cause you can call them in during the rut, but afterwards you can still,
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I think a little bit, but it's very difficult to do. So we might have a cow come late heat or
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whatever they call that. So I think that's what it is. Yeah. Late rut or whatever. But yeah. So
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we went up with Bo's buck. We were North of Rangeley about an hour or so.
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Yeah. It was like a two and a half hour drive or something like that, or maybe just two.
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About two hours from where we are in it. We were right on the border of Maine and New Hampshire
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and Canada actually. So it was, it was the wilderness, the vast wilderness. Bo's buck mountain
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camps took care of us, fed us really well. The food was delicious. Yeah. The food was crazy.
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Like unbelievably, unexpectedly delicious. Yeah. I mean, I thought I'd be fine, but they
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have a great chef. The portions were huge too. Huge portions. I don't know what was my favorite
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meal. That shrimp gumbo I had the first night. I don't think you had it. No. Cause you weren't
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there. That shrimp gumbo. It was perfect. The tenderloin, the pork tenderloin was my favorite.
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That was delicious too. Maybe that was my favorite. Yeah. Anyways, they put us up. We had a great
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guide. Mike took us around and showed us around. And that first day you weren't there.
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Mm-hmm. Because. JV football game. Right. So you chose football over hunting. Mm-hmm.
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Which is fine. You make your choices. Sometimes you have two good choices in life. Yeah. And
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you just. I got to do both. So. Yeah. Yeah. So it worked out, but yeah. So you were at
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the JV football game and you told me that I, if I saw a state record, I could shoot it.
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Yeah. But if. Is anything smaller. Don't shoot anything else. Yeah. So we were out there and
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probably for the first, I would say 20 minutes on the first day before you got there, where
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we went, we saw a moose. Yeah. Like within 20 minutes. And he was decent. He was a decent
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moose. He was probably, our guide Mike said about 30 to 35 inches, which is the spread.
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It's the widest points on each antler on a moose. So 30, 35 inch. Decent. Big bodied,
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but decent. Yeah. So I didn't shoot him. And then I don't think I saw anything else the
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rest of that day, but you guys came in that evening. Yeah. Were you going to say something?
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No, I just was agreeing that you didn't see anything else for the rest of the day.
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And then, yeah. So you and, and, and mom and the kids came and we had a good night, had some
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dinner, spent a couple hours together. And then we got up early and went after it.
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We were driving up to the top of the road and I spotted a body of one. And there's actually like
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at least four that we could see. There's two cows and two bulls that we could see. So
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we tried stalking them. I only saw one cow in three bulls is what I saw.
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You saw three bulls? I think there was four bulls in that group because those two were sparring and
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then the two raghorns. Yeah. I saw the two small ones and I was just sitting there waiting
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and just watching them. I saw the cow. I saw a small bull, saw another small bull. And then I
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saw a big bull. I was like, Oh, that's a big bull. Yeah. And even the guide was like, Oh, that's a
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good bull. And so we started making our way down this like old logging road kind of to cut into this
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cut into this cut. Yeah. That's what they're called.
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The cut. Let's talk about the cuts in a minute. Cause that's kind of interesting. Anyways,
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proceed. Oh, are we talking about it? We can talk about it now. Do you know what they,
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do you want to explain? You go ahead first. So up in these, in these mountainous areas,
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the logging companies come in and they clear a portion of, of the wilderness and they obviously
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take those logs and sell them and do whatever they do with them, but they call those the cuts.
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And so I was asking our guide about it. I said, is this like, how much of this do they cut? Is this
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good? Is this bad? He's like, Oh no, it's great for the moose. If the cuts weren't here,
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the moose wouldn't even be here, which I was surprised about that. I was like, really?
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Why is that? And he said, well, in the cuts is where they feed because in the thicketed forested
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areas, there's no sunlight that gets in there. So they can't feed as well in those forested areas.
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So it's when it's cut down that the shrubs and the stuff that the plants that the moose eat
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are available to the moose. So they actually come out into the cuts and then go back into the woods.
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Yeah. So that was kind of interesting. I didn't know that.
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I thought that was cool. Like with the CM, is it, was it CMP central main power?
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Well, I was talking with Chris McCabe. That's when he came over when I accidentally illegally
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You accidentally caught it. You caught him on purpose.
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No, I caught him purposely, but it didn't mean for it to be illegal. Cause I forgot that
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it was the last day of the, yeah, it was just out of season.
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Whatever it was. Yeah. Um, but we were asking him about like the CMP corridor and he's like,
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my dad hates the cuts, but they're actually amazing for all the animals to come out there
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and feed. So it's good for us. It's good for the animals too. So, so Chris McCabe is a good
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friend of ours. He's a game warden here in Maine. He was on the show, uh, Northwood's law.
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Yeah. They're doing New Hampshire warden service. Which is way more lame. I like the Maine. Yeah.
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Maine. Maine is way cooler. It's way better for sure. They can't win a baseball game to save their
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lives against New Hampshire, but, but the show is better. Uh, yeah. So he came over that day
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because why? Cause I caught that fish. That fish was huge. Yeah. I caught a small mouth. That was
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probably six pounds or more like a monster. He was, I thought I hooked onto a rock and then I lifted up
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and I see this body float up and I thought it was a log. And I was like, seriously,
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then it started swimming away. But you called me, I wasn't there at the lake, but you called me like,
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dad, you got to come down here. And I was nervous. Cause it was right after like the place got
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vandalized, huh? Yeah. Cause you guys had gone down there several weeks earlier and we're fishing
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by herself, by herself, which is fine. That's cool. And you're old enough to do that. And
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you had called us because you had to file a police report because you were the first person to see
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some destruction or something from some vandalism. Yeah. They burned a bench and threw some trash
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around or something. The water, like everything. Yeah. So then you go down again and you're like,
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dad, come down. You're going to hurry. I'm like, Oh great. What else is going on?
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And you're like, tell me. And I'm like, no, just come down. You're like, you better tell me.
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So I told you that I had a huge fish. Yeah. So I went down there and it was massive.
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Yeah. I was looking at the dates. I'm like, it's not even fishing season. I thought you
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were kidding. I'm like, don't, don't be kidding with me. And then you're like, no, I'm dead serious.
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Oh crap. Cause I did kill it. Cause I don't know if I was going to eat it or what I was going
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to do with it. Hopefully you'd eat it. That's why you would catch it. If it was legal, that would
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have been a cool mount too. Cause it was, it was a big small mill. Yeah, it was, it was.
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So yeah. So you, you decided that you, I, I, I said, what do you want to do? And you said,
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well, I don't know. I'm, I don't know what I should do. And you decided to call the warden
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service and you called Chris and he came over and he took the fish. He said, it's like the second
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biggest small mouth he's ever seen. That was a big fish. Yeah. Uh, anyways, I think we were
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talking about Chris. Chris is a friend of ours. So, uh, you know, he's, he's, he's a good guy,
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but we were talking about the cuts. So we, we make our way down through this little logging,
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old covered up dirt road or logging trail or whatever it was. And we get in position and we
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set up on our shooting sticks, probably I would say 80 ish to a hundred yards out from where we
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saw this, this cow. Go ahead. And then, um, and then the little raghorn was being a little
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punk and kept walking around us and staring at us the whole time. I don't think he took his eyes
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off us once. And that cow alerted when staring at us. So we were like the raghorn walked off.
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So we're like, we'll just walk down and hopefully this cow doesn't get us. And I thought Mike saw
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the cow, but when we were walking down there to see if we could find that big bull, uh, I see the
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cow with its head up and its ears just staring straight at us. And I thought Mike saw, so I
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didn't tell him cause we were, he was like, whatever. So I just kept walking. Oh, I didn't know
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that. Cause I was behind you guys. Yeah. And then we just get up there a little bit and we just hear
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and like, we think there was at least 10 moose in there and they all ran into the woods and it,
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it's scary having them run through the woods. It's so loud. It was amazing how they were just
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crashing through the woods and it sounded like the woods were coming down. It was actually pretty cool.
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Yeah. It's kind of scary if you were in those woods and you just heard that coming at you.
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That's scary. Well, there was two bull moose that they were fighting. Yeah. That's what we were
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trying to work our way down towards. I don't really think they were fighting too hard cause
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it was just light paddling, but they may not have been, but they were sparring for sure.
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And so we wanted to work down there because we saw the big one and we knew that he was down there.
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Yeah. And so we were in position waiting for him to come across this open position, but never came.
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So we started working our way down in there and busted them out of there. Yeah. Which was
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disappointing. So in two days, two mornings, we'd seen bull moose. And then that evening,
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what happened that evening? Oh, we went up on this road and we went
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the whole afternoon without seeing anything. So we went up on this road and we turned around this
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corner and I honestly thought Mike saw the guys that were blocking off the road cause he thought
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they'd be blocking off that road too. So we pull up there and he's like, Oh, right there. And I was
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looking off to the side and I turned around to see, like, I think I was going to see some cars blocking
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the road, but it was just like this little bull just staring at us. And he walked onto the road
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and I'll let you talk. No, he was probably 30 or 40 yards away from us when he walked on the road.
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Yeah. And I got, I had my phone out and I started videoing and I was like, Hey, what do you want to
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do? Do you want to, do you want to shoot this loose or do you want to pass? He was a little guy.
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We knew, I mean, he was big from, you know, he's a moose, but he was still kind of a smaller moose.
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I'm like, what do you want to do? Do you want to shoot this? Do you want to pass? And you said,
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do you remember? Uh, did I say, I don't know. Yeah. You're like, I don't know. I'm like, well,
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like, okay. Neither one of us know, but do you want to shoot it or do you want to pass? Like,
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I don't know. I don't know. You kept saying, I don't know. Yeah. And I didn't really want to
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shoot it because we had seen so many other bull moose. I'm like, no, this is kind of a smaller moose.
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Yeah. It's not, I'm, we don't need to shoot this one. So because you said, I don't know,
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I was like, all right, well, we won't shoot it. So we just watched him. I videoed him. We just
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watched him. He walked up the road, you know, another 40 yards and then eventually tucked in
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into the woods. Yeah. But that was a really cool encounter. Yeah. It was scary. And then it wasn't
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scary. Moose are scary when you don't expect them to be there and you turn around and there's a huge
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bull just staring at you. Yeah. For being such huge creatures, it's amazing how quickly they just
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pop up and appear. Yeah. Because we had quite a few cows and we had a little moose that morning.
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Remember a little, a little guy before shooting light or was that Wednesday? That was a day.
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The next day. Yeah. Yeah. So we passed on this moose and I, you know, I felt okay about it,
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but then the more that it went on, the more I was like, Oh, we should have shot that moose because,
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so that was Tuesday and we saw a little, little teeny young bull moose on Wednesday morning with a cow
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before shooting light. So we couldn't have shot it anyways. And then we didn't see anything for
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Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday. We saw, no, we saw another cow.
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Well, I mean, we don't see a bull moose for Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday. So for three days
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and every day that passed, as we were sitting in the lodge for dinner, I remember thinking and even
00:20:51.280
talking with you, Oh, we should have shot that. Yeah. We should have shot that. We should have shot
00:20:55.400
that. We should have shot that. And I felt so bad. I actually felt horrible. I think I told you a
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little bit. Yeah. Cause I wanted it to be a successful hunt for you. And so I felt horrible
00:21:05.840
that we had this opportunity and just passed on it. Cause we thought we'd have a better opportunity.
00:21:11.900
Yeah. So we go out Saturday. So here the hunt is, is six days, Monday through Saturday. That's all
00:21:17.700
you have. And we go out Saturday. It's our last day, Saturday morning. And the first thing we come
00:21:23.220
across is, um, Oh, the Saturday, the Saturday. Okay. Well, we were going up this road to that
00:21:30.640
first cut where we saw those, uh, moose on Tuesday and I was asleep and I woke up and you guys are
00:21:38.340
like, there's a moose right there. No, no, no, no. Before that we saw a moose before that. Yeah,
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I know. That's the one I'm saying. Oh, okay. And you're like, there's a moose right there. And it
00:21:47.100
was a cow that we saw from Friday. Yeah. Poor thing. It had brain worms. So its head was cocked
00:21:53.880
and it just runs in circles pretty much and can't do anything. I'm going to have to look into that
00:21:58.460
because I don't really know of that. It's, it's sad, but they, yeah, they basically turn into
00:22:03.100
living zombies almost. Yeah. But its head was like hung over and tilted to the side. Yeah. And it,
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they just walk and graze, but they just basically walk in circles. So this female, this, uh, this cow,
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this female moose was there pretty much in the same spot, maybe 30 or 40 yards away,
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but pretty much in the same spot. We just saw her 24 hours earlier. Yeah. So we saw her
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and then we were just watched there for maybe 10 minutes to see if a bull was with her. But Mike's
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like that, that cow wouldn't have a boyfriend because look at how she looks. And she was apparently
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like really old and skinny. Mike said she wasn't healthy. Well, it's probably cause the brain
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warm too. Cause I don't think they can eat as good. Yeah. I have that going on. So I fall back
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asleep and then you tell the rest. Cause I, I was asleep for the first part of our. Yeah. This
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little guy slept so much. Little guy, little, little, this little teeny guy, this little baby
00:23:00.520
slept so much. You only have like, I don't even know how much pounds you got. I mean, I'm already
00:23:06.220
taller than you. So need a bulk. You're always going to be a little baby in my mind. No, my little
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baby boy. Uh, yeah. So sleeping again and, uh, we were driving up the road. I'm like, oh, there,
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there's a, there's a cow. I'm like, I'm looking. I'm like, where? I don't see it. Where? He's like,
00:23:25.900
right there. I'm like, I don't see it. So he's like, just get out, get, grab your gun. So I get
00:23:30.340
out and I'm like, Brett, get up. And you're like, huh? What was happening? What are we doing? Huh?
00:23:37.480
I'm like, get up, grab your gun, get up like chamber around. Let's go. And so you did kind
00:23:42.640
of gobbly. No, I got out pretty quick. You got out quick. But when I was telling you like chamber
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around, like, I'm like, don't slam, don't close your door. Just leave it open. I was like, I know
00:23:51.440
how to shut a door quietly. Kind of. Yeah. Except for all the times you just slamming it
00:23:55.580
before. Yeah. So we walk up the road, probably, I don't know, 40 yards. No, it was like five
00:24:02.600
yards. We literally walked like five yards from the truck. No. Yeah. Really? Okay. So
00:24:07.300
we walk. No, it was further than that. No. I know why. It was like five to 10 yards. No,
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it was longer. Nope. It was like 30 to 40. So we walked 30 to 40 yards up, maybe 20, we'll
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split it. And Mike and I are looking off to the right where we saw this cow. And I could
00:24:23.480
just see your ears poked up and you look down the lane and there's two bulls up there at
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the top. Yeah. And they were probably 300 yards away. And I could see the paddles move
00:24:33.580
and you guys couldn't. We couldn't see them. Figure it out. Even with the binos on. Well,
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I didn't use my binos. I put my gun up to it and looked at it through the optic. By the
00:24:41.860
way, Vortex hooked us up. Yeah. Yeah. Shamus over at Vortex hooked us up. But we were looking
00:24:47.980
through our, I was looking through my rifle scope. Yeah. And I was like, oh yeah, there
00:24:53.340
they are. And I had a pretty good beat on them and we were actually going to shoot at
00:24:56.760
them. Yeah. And Mike's like, no, no, no, no, don't shoot because there's two of them
00:25:00.800
up there and we don't know which one is where. Like don't, don't. And by the time we were getting
00:25:06.880
ready to shoot, they had looked directly at us. So they weren't broadside anymore. Like
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he was just, it was just not a good, smart decision to shoot. So we didn't. And then
00:25:17.760
we kind of put our guns down and that cow got a little spooked to cow. I just saw the
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one, but the two got a little spooked and they started to trot off. And in my head, I
00:25:31.740
was like, oh crap, those bulls are going to run off now. So we were going to work down
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there. We're going to get our shooting sticks and try to work into those bulls up top of the
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line. If we got a hundred yards closer, we could have probably shot them. But those
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cows started trotting off and I was like, oh crap, those bulls are going to go. And so
00:25:49.180
I'm just like watching them. And you guys were still watching the bulls up top. Right. And
00:25:53.440
I just see a bull pop up and turn broadside and he's staring right at me. And I'm like,
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guys, right there, right there. And I, we were going to go three, two, one, and both of us
00:26:02.820
shoot at the same time. But so I put my gun up on this and I'm like, dad, get your gun,
00:26:08.020
get your gun. And he's like, I can't find it. I can't find it. I'm like, gotta shoot
00:26:12.080
Well, I couldn't find it because I was so zoomed in on my optic. Cause we were looking
00:26:16.160
at those boot moose that were like 300 yards away. And I didn't reset my optic to a, to
00:26:24.060
Yeah. So I'm like, shoot, start shooting. And you're still like, I can't find it. So
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I'm like, screw it. I'm just going to start shooting. So I started shooting at this thing
00:26:32.940
and first shot I missed. I don't even know. You think I hit it in the lungs once? Do I
00:26:43.620
I shot three times and missed all my shots. And then my dad racks one, shoots, misses
00:26:48.940
first shot. And then he racks another one and hits it right in the neck and it drops right
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There you go. And I start running towards this thing.
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Let's hold on. You need to learn the way of telling a story.
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Just slow down. Like let's tell the story with some, some gusto here.
00:27:16.140
So we rack one, shoot it. I shoot at it, miss. And I'm like, man, I've got one more shot to
00:27:24.860
take here. And if I miss this, not only do I suck at shooting and hunting,
00:27:30.480
you can't hit a moose. That's kind of sad. Well, I didn't hit him. So neither, but it
00:27:35.260
was, we were on our shoulder. We were standing there. Adrenaline was pumping. We were dialed
00:27:39.000
in with our optics and he popped out of nowhere too. We weren't ready. Like the adrenaline
00:27:43.540
was going. There's a lot. If you don't hunt, it would, it would seem like it's easy. And
00:27:49.020
everybody says, Oh, it's easy. Just one shot. It's different. Okay. It's different when
00:27:53.720
you're out in the field, especially if you've never done any of this before. Yeah. So we're
00:27:58.320
shooting like the wild, wild, wild, like Wyatt freaking Earp. We'll shoot just everywhere
00:28:06.180
And I take a shot. My second shot, rack one, get right on him. Shoot. Bam. Smacked him. Drops
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where he stands. Just drops. And all of a sudden I look over and I see you running over there. I'm
00:28:25.360
like, stop, stop. And you're running over there. And Mike was like, stop breaking. Stop running
00:28:31.600
over there. Stop. He's yelling at you. And finally you stop. I have no idea what in the
00:28:36.880
world you were doing. I'm like, bro, I was going to go get, I know. I'm like, just wait
00:28:40.700
a second. And in that time we had seen three other moose bulls pop up and run off. Yeah.
00:28:49.960
And then we looked at the top. Well, I looked at the top of the road and I saw two cross up
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there too. So there was, there was at least six bulls that we saw. And when those others,
00:29:00.480
those three ran off that were by the one we were shooting at, I was like, dang, that
00:29:04.940
bull just got up. Cause I shot it and it dropped. I knew it dropped and then it got up and it
00:29:10.560
ran off. Oh man. So anyways, we rack another one, reload and we walk up there and I'm looking,
00:29:19.840
I got my head down. I'm looking for blood. Mike's got his head down. He's looking for
00:29:23.180
blood. And then I'm just like walking. Cause I kind of knew where it was. I thought it was
00:29:28.740
only like 50 yards off the road, but it, cause I had my sight zoomed in like all the way.
00:29:33.380
So I thought it was closer. And so at 50 yards, I started looking for blood and I'm like, why
00:29:39.360
is it not here? Why is there no blood? And they're like, he's probably another 50 yards
00:29:43.820
up. So I'm just like walking through the woods and you guys are just scanning. And I'm like,
00:29:49.180
there he is. And you're like, what? And you're looking at it. And I'm like, he's literally
00:29:52.820
right there. And I start going up to my, uh, to it. And Mike's like, stop, stop, stop.
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I got to make sure he's dead first. Yeah. Cause you don't want a pissed off bull coming
00:30:01.620
at you. An injured bull. Yeah, for sure. And so, uh, yeah. So we just sat there and waited
00:30:08.980
for a minute. We were probably about 10 yards away from it and I could see it wasn't breathing.
00:30:13.260
Yeah. I was like, is he, you know, is he dead? Yeah. I'm pretty sure, you know, and he was
00:30:16.960
twitching a little bit. Yeah. And I just remember as soon as we knew he was dead, man, you turned
00:30:21.320
around and gave me this awesome smile and you were like shaking and you're like, Oh my
00:30:25.780
gosh, I can't believe we did it. We did it. And you gave me this awesome hug and it was
00:30:29.900
that, that to me, I don't, I think I told you that to me was the hug, the smile that we
00:30:34.780
did it. Just how excited you were. Yeah. That to me was so much more meaningful and cool
00:30:41.360
experience than the moose itself. Yeah. I mean, the moose is cool though. Yeah. But that
00:30:47.240
moment was amazing. So we walk up and, um, I didn't, I didn't see any blood from a wound.
00:30:53.960
Yeah. So we saw blood out of his mouth, which is typical, you know, and what? He bumped that
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desk pretty hard. Uh, yeah, but I didn't see any, um, any wound, any exit wound or anything.
00:31:07.180
Cause he was laying on the side that we would have shot him. He's laying on that side. So
00:31:10.860
I'm like, man, where do we even shoot this thing? So we're moving him around a little bit
00:31:13.700
cause we got to start getting him cleaned out. And it was a warm morning. I have one,
00:31:16.700
one part that I need to say. Okay. Um, we were checking him out, like checking his rack out
00:31:22.220
and we were like trying to lift up his head, but he was so heavy. Yeah. It's heavy. And
00:31:26.400
Mike was like, just looking at it. And I see his leg twitch and all of us are like, back
00:31:31.940
up, back up, back up. And we all backed up and it was just as nervous, but it freaked us
00:31:36.100
out. Yeah. Nervous firing. Yeah. So we're moving him around a little bit and we're getting
00:31:40.300
him, trying to get him set up to clean. And I'm like, man, where is his, where?
00:31:43.700
Where did he get shot? And I thought it didn't pass through him. He must still have the bullet
00:31:47.880
in him. And we're looking and looking and looking. Mike's like, it's right here. It
00:31:52.080
hit him right in the neck and just demolished. With the 308, which is pretty impressive because
00:31:57.780
you use that for deer. Yeah. But if you put it on the right spot on a moose, I guess it
00:32:01.860
works. He just went down like a sack of potatoes. Yeah. Just dropped. He didn't even probably go
00:32:06.980
a step. So yeah, he's laying there and man, we got him gutted out and cleaned out. And
00:32:14.280
a lot of people were asking how we got him out. And there's, there's different ways you
00:32:18.320
can quarter them and pack them out. He was a hundred yards off the road. So we had some
00:32:23.100
friends that came up, some friends of Mike's that came up, or actually one of his employees
00:32:26.580
and his brother-in-law came up with the trailer and the four-wheeler. And it was a pretty cool
00:32:32.280
process to watch these guys work. So they, they took the four-wheeler on the path. They
00:32:36.060
wanted to go from, from the woods to the road and he had an electric chainsaw. So he's like
00:32:41.580
cutting some limbs down and things out of the way. Yeah. And they had an old plastic bed liner.
00:32:47.640
Yeah. So they brought that up there, hooked up the four-wheeler, dragged the moose onto the
00:32:53.300
bed liner and then dragged the bed liner, the a hundred yards out onto the road. And then we
00:32:57.420
just dragged him right up onto the trailer. Yeah. And he was heavy, heavy. Don't get to the weight
00:33:01.920
yet. I'm not. We don't want to get ahead of ourselves. He was heavy. It was, that's amazing
00:33:06.680
how big those animals are. Yeah. Like they're big when you see them, but then up close, it wasn't
00:33:11.760
even the length or anything of him. I mean, his rack was large rack, but it was the, like the width
00:33:17.500
from his belly to his back. I was amazed at how thick that area was. And like his hindquarters too.
00:33:22.780
I was like, Oh my gosh. Yeah. His hindquarters are probably as tall as me. Yeah. Amazing.
00:33:28.320
Yeah. Amazing. So we get them out and do our thing and pack them up, you know, long story
00:33:33.100
short, we're packing our stuff up because we're going to head home because you have a football
00:33:35.900
game and you want to get home for the football game, which I love football. So I'm like, let's,
00:33:40.420
let's get home. So we get home, but we have to go register them first. So we go down and we'd
00:33:44.000
register them. And the registration was fun, was interesting. Yeah. Because there it's kind
00:33:48.860
of a touristy little town that you register in. Um, what is it? A classic, but it's like
00:33:54.840
Rangeley. Yeah. It's right out of Rangeley. And, uh, you want to tell that story?
00:33:59.400
Uh, yeah. So we like pull up to the side of this, it's a grocery store, a gas station thing.
00:34:05.200
Yeah. And already when we pull up, we have people coming up to the bed of our truck to check it
00:34:10.400
out. And this thing filled up the whole bed of our truck and its head was hanging off the
00:34:14.980
tailgate. Yeah. We had to open the tailgate because it just wouldn't fit. And the way they
00:34:19.000
got it in there is they used an excavator and lifted it up into our tailgate. But so we pull
00:34:25.640
up and there's already like four people around our tailgate, just looking at the moose and
00:34:30.680
everything. So we go on to register and the lady wants us to pull around to the other side
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and we get there. There's people taking pictures with it and coming up and checking it out. So
00:34:42.020
it was pretty cool. Yeah. Got it registered. They measure the spread, uh, points. Did you
00:34:49.440
see her comb through the fur? No, I don't think she did that. Yeah. She looked, I know she
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looked cause she's like, I didn't see any ticks, but she had to comb through. So they usually
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like comb through to see ticks and then, um, they have to take a tooth out, which took her
00:35:03.860
like 10 minutes to get it out. Took way too long. I was like, seriously, like it's not that
00:35:07.820
hard. Yeah. So we got it out though. Yeah. But there's a whole bunch of people
00:35:11.740
coming up and asking and stuff. It was cool to be able to share the story and how, how
00:35:16.940
excited people were. Yeah. And you know, it's funny cause I posted on social media and people
00:35:21.740
were like, Oh, you can't believe you killed that beautiful animal. And it's like, you
00:35:24.580
know, you kill animals, you eat food and it's not just meat. People think that, well, if
00:35:29.480
you don't eat meat, then you're not killing animals. No. Do you know how many thousands
00:35:32.320
of insects and bugs and populations are displaced when you grow, uh, uh, an acre or, or a hundred
00:35:39.520
or a thousand acres of, of corn, for example. And I'm not saying we shouldn't like we should
00:35:44.940
cultivate the land. I have no problem with that. I'm just saying it's, it's, if you think
00:35:48.960
that you're not harming or injuring or, or killing animals because you're eating vegetables,
00:35:55.820
you're wrong. There's still an impact and we don't get to extract ourselves from the
00:36:01.660
circle of life. We get just, it's, it's, we're in it. So we have to be good stewards
00:36:07.200
over it. So yeah, killing, killing a moose is not a bad thing. And people say, well, it's
00:36:11.540
just trophy hunting. It's not trophy hunting. Yeah. Okay. What we were doing while we were
00:36:16.080
out there, like when we passed on that bull on Tuesday, you know, we, we said we wanted
00:36:21.220
a bigger one. Yeah. Well, we do. And we want a bigger one because that those are the bulls
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that have had the opportunity to pass on their genetics to the herds. And they're just going
00:36:34.260
to go downhill. That's right. A couple of years. They've lived their life. They've done their
00:36:37.780
thing. Now we need to let the young bulls come in and do their thing. And that's a healthy
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way to grow, uh, any, any, uh, uh, moose or deer population. That's what I think we should
00:36:47.640
do right now. Put me out of pasture, old guys, just kill them. So the younger guys
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could come in. Jeez, man. Good. Next. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. So, uh, yeah,
00:36:58.140
so we got, so we did that and then we had to go get them weighted in another place. You
00:37:00.960
want to tell them how much he ended up weighing? So we got an amount, cleaned him out. Uh, he
00:37:05.360
was 805 pounds. Yeah. Yeah. But also the funny thing is, well, was it funny? I thought
00:37:12.140
it was really cool. We had a couple older people come up to our moose and they've never
00:37:16.920
seen a moose in their whole life. We had one lady who'd never seen a moose in her whole
00:37:21.860
life. We had another one that hadn't seen a moose that close. And it was just really
00:37:25.980
cool. They were so excited to see it. Yeah. And everyone was like, that's a really good
00:37:30.700
bull. Yeah. He ended up being 47 inches across and with 20 points. Yeah. 19. I think it was
00:37:38.720
19. 19 points. She said 20, but Mike counted 20. So I, I believe Mike, Mike, I'll take 20
00:37:45.400
though. Mike counted 19. Yeah. Yeah. And you counted, you counted them too. I think there
00:37:48.820
was 19, but anyways, uh, then we got them weighed 805 pounds, put them in the back of
00:37:52.400
the truck. We were going to take them to the, uh, to the butcher, but I thought it'd be
00:37:56.900
cool to take them home first. Cause the butcher was on the way or home was on the way to the
00:38:00.420
butcher. So we brought them home. So, uh, mom and the kids could see them and they were
00:38:05.660
excited. And so was everybody else as we were driving through town. There was a guy behind
00:38:09.100
us taking a video. We had guys taking videos and pictures of the moose in our tailgate, which I
00:38:13.260
thought was really weird. So, yeah. So we took him to the butcher that evening. So we shot
00:38:17.900
him at, uh, 730, 720 in the morning. Uh, and then he was at the butcher by four o'clock
00:38:26.100
that afternoon, getting broken down and got his cape and his, his rack and the taxidermist
00:38:32.600
has already picked that up. So already. Oh, dang. Yeah. What taxidermist did you go with?
00:38:37.640
Uh, I can't remember the name of it. Was it that antique one that Mike told us on the road?
00:38:42.100
Yeah. Okay. Uh, yeah, I think so. Nice. So I got to go pay him today, but yeah. Um,
00:38:47.340
man, what an awesome experience. Yeah. It's, it could potentially be a once in a lifetime
00:38:51.960
type thing. You know, it's your, the odds of you, um, drawing out or me drawing out for
00:38:58.620
that are significantly lower. Now I have to wait three years since I drew out for that.
00:39:01.860
So like I can still put in a mom can. Yeah. If we put you as our sub permitty, could you
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still come on that hunt? I don't know for sure, but I think I can come as a sub permitty.
00:39:11.580
Oh, okay. But I can't come as, I can't have a permanent holder, but I can come as a sub
00:39:15.560
permitty. Okay. So yeah. And we made some memories out there. We had a good time, um, told some
00:39:21.760
stories, shared some stuff. Like it was fun. You know, the cool thing about hunting is it's
00:39:26.660
not just about the hunt. It's about the memories. It's about the lessons, the people that we
00:39:31.900
meet, the life experiences, of course, the bonding between you and me, you know, more happens
00:39:36.700
in five or six days than could happen in five or six months. Yeah.
00:39:40.680
Which is really cool. Yeah. I think the first part of the week, the odds are kind of stacked
00:39:47.140
against us. No, they were hot. They were good. The first part. Well, I'm just like the middle,
00:39:52.000
like the middle. Yeah. A couple of days. Cause it was hot and one day it was raining the whole
00:39:56.780
day. So odds are kind of stacked against us during the middle of the week. And then last
00:40:01.720
minute we shot it. So, well, it paid off to wait. Yeah. I didn't know it was going to,
00:40:06.660
honestly, I thought, uh, we're not going to get one. Yeah. I was kind of like, dad won't
00:40:11.240
be able to put in for another three years. And yeah. So we got one though. So you got
00:40:16.060
it done. Yeah. Well, I had a great time with you, bud. I'm going to remember that hunt
00:40:19.320
forever. Yeah. It was such a cool experience to be there with you and to share that moment
00:40:25.280
with you and to work on it together and to have our moose, you know, and then, and then
00:40:30.540
to be able, of course, we didn't talk about it much, but to put all the meat in the freezer,
00:40:33.820
that's going to be probably four or 500 pounds of meat. I don't know. Maybe not that much.
00:40:40.800
Maybe like three. That's what the guy said. 300 or so. I don't, I don't know. Which is
00:40:43.900
still a ton of meat. Yeah. Um, our good friend Brody Cousineau brought over an extra cooler
00:40:49.080
he had. Oh, he did. Did you see that? No, I did. I think he must've been at, uh, lifting.
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Yeah, he was. No, you, you were at lifting when he brought it over. Oh yeah. Cause he came
00:40:58.120
over to lifting. So he must've dropped it off and just went over. Yeah. Yeah. So he dropped
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off a cooler. So we should have that back in a week or so. And yeah, we'll be dining like
00:41:06.760
Kings. I can't wait to get the tenderloins. We should have taken those out. Yeah. But it
00:41:13.000
would have been a mess and a nightmare. Yeah. That would have been cool though. To bring
00:41:16.720
some, some moose tenderloins home. Literally in the middle of the week where you weren't seeing
00:41:21.180
anything. I was like moose tenderloins right now would be so good. But dinner last night,
00:41:25.640
we had some beef from, uh, one of our neighbors, a cattle rancher here. Yeah. Holy cow. On
00:41:30.420
the trigger. Really good. That was great. Yeah. It was unbelievable. It's tender. The flavor
00:41:34.340
was delicious. Mom does a good job on that stuff. Yeah. Well, cool. So there's our moose
00:41:38.720
hunting story. Guys, if you haven't hunted, I would suggest you try to get into hunting
00:41:42.620
cause you're going to learn a lot, uh, really applicable skills, obviously. And then you're
00:41:46.620
going to build memories with friends and family and people you care about. Yeah. And if you
00:41:50.600
are into hunting, you already know all of that. And this is a short, uh, a story
00:41:54.060
that hopefully inspires you. Hopefully you have your own, I'm sure you do stories to
00:41:59.760
share and tell. Yeah. Keep telling those stories. Cause what a great way to bond and
00:42:04.140
to share some of these cool experiences. I think one thing that might help non hunters
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00:42:08.240
understand this more, Mike was talking about it with you. He's like, I wonder if God likes
00:42:14.200
us killing his creatures that he's made. Yeah. And you just said, well, God put them on the
00:42:18.900
earth for us to use and to harvest and provide for family and friends. So. Right. And he's
00:42:24.040
given us dominion over nature. If you do it respectfully and in the right way, then I think
00:42:29.900
he appreciates it. But if you don't do it respectfully, then that's a problem. Well, and I'm glad that
00:42:36.220
you said it respectfully because it is really important. And 90% of the hunters, even more
00:42:40.920
are respectful. They follow the rules. Uh, they care about conservation. They care about the animals.
00:42:47.940
They care about nature. I would say they care more about nature than somebody who just sits on the
00:42:51.880
sidelines and pontificates about how, how important it is to, to be stewards over the land. Yeah. It's
00:42:57.580
the hunters who are actually doing it. You know, it's the hunters who are out there who are face to
00:43:02.420
face with these animals. I told somebody the other day, you know, the only difference between a hunter
00:43:07.020
who eats his food and somebody who doesn't hunt is that a hunter has to look in the eyes of its food
00:43:12.120
and experience the full weight and responsibility of each male it partakes of. Yeah. And then the
00:43:17.340
other thing that we did is, and I don't say this, it sounds pretentious and I don't want it to come
00:43:22.720
across like that, but it's important that we share this with you is that Mike went down and I don't
00:43:28.540
know his faith. So we don't need to push our faith onto him or anything like that. I guess we could
00:43:32.580
have asked him, but he went down to grab something from the truck and we were standing by the moose
00:43:36.300
after we had, we'd killed the moose. Yeah. And you and I just took our hats off and we just said
00:43:41.300
a quick prayer of gratitude and, and thankfulness for the memories, for the experience, for the
00:43:48.680
bounty, for the harvest, for the food. And so it's also important that we remember where it comes from
00:43:53.960
and that we honor and recognize his hand in our lives. And also that we honor the bull, you know,
00:44:01.660
we respect and honor the bull that gave his life so that we could, we could have those experiences
00:44:06.040
and we could eat and fill our bellies. Yeah. And let me just say, if you're ever going to take
00:44:11.740
pictures or if you're going around in public, please wipe the nose or any blood spots, wipe all
00:44:18.660
that off and tuck the tongue in. That's just rules that need to be set. And I think more hunters need
00:44:25.300
to do that because it makes non hunters think worse about us hunters. And then it's not good for us
00:44:32.280
because people, more people go against us, I guess. It's that, it is definitely that. And it's
00:44:36.440
disrespectful to the animal. Yeah. To just have it there, like splayed out with his tongue hanging
00:44:41.400
out or blood. Wipe the animal down, put the tongue in it, like take a nice, a nice picture. If you want
00:44:47.640
to get your pictures, nothing wrong with taking pictures, we do, but get, it's a good way to honor
00:44:52.260
and acknowledge. Yeah. But do it as respectfully as possible. Cool. Yeah. All right, bud. Thanks for coming
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