Order of Man - BRIAN KILMEADE ｜ An Overdose of Information

00:00:00.000 With as much information available to us this day and age, it's hard to decipher which information to consume and which we should be listening to in the first place.

00:00:09.560 Everywhere we turn, we're inundated with sensational headlines designed to capture our eyeballs and our earbuds, but not necessarily keep us informed.

00:00:18.120 Today, I'm joined by TV and radio host and political commentator on Fox News, Brian Kilmeade.

00:00:23.160 We cover a wide range of topics, including the shifting of the Overton window in media, the course correction America needs, how to determine which information is worth pursuing, what role the American citizen plays in all of this, and the overdose of information we're all dealing with.

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00:01:03.940 Gentlemen, what is going on today? My name is Ryan Michler.

00:01:06.440 I'm the host and the founder of the Order of Man podcast and movement.

00:01:10.060 Welcome here and welcome back.

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00:01:55.040 All right, guys, let me get to my guest today.

00:01:57.720 He is the host of The Brian Kilmeade Show, One Nation and Fox and Friends.

00:02:02.000 Again, his name is Brian Kilmeade.

00:02:03.600 He's been in radio and television for nearly three decades

00:02:07.340 and has been a strong advocate for investigative and integrity in journalism.

00:02:12.980 He's also the author of seven books and more to come.

00:02:15.460 He talks about that in the podcast, including a personal favorite of mine,

00:02:18.680 George Washington's Secret Six, The Spy Ring That Saved the American Revolution.

00:02:23.220 He's also the author of The President and Freedom Fighter, Abraham Lincoln, Frederick Douglass,

00:02:28.820 and Their Battle to Save America's Soul, which is releasing in paperback.

00:02:33.680 Sorry about the banging.

00:02:35.620 I think those are my kids jumping around upstairs.

00:02:38.380 Regardless, I've enjoyed this man's political commentary for a very, very long time

00:02:42.840 and have had the honor of being featured on his show just a few weeks ago.

00:02:46.880 I hope you enjoy this one, guys.

00:02:50.180 Brian, what's going on?

00:02:51.220 Great to see you.

00:02:51.740 Long time no see.

00:02:52.540 Hey, yeah.

00:02:53.520 It's been a week.

00:02:54.420 Yeah.

00:02:54.800 It goes pretty quick, especially in the news cycle these days, I imagine.

00:02:58.800 Yep.

00:02:59.360 You've been in it for a long time.

00:03:00.680 I don't know.

00:03:01.200 Is it crazier than it's ever been or is it always just more of the same?

00:03:05.420 I mean, a couple of things.

00:03:06.460 The hurricane has changed things and that's why I was just pulled away.

00:03:10.060 I have a house in the Ponte Vedra area.

00:03:12.400 And it looks like it was going to miss, but now it's going to hit and have a guy to help

00:03:17.400 me pull stuff in.

00:03:18.620 So the hurricane changes everything.

00:03:20.580 Then you have the midterms, which is still percolating.

00:03:23.060 So there's a lot going on right now.

00:03:27.240 But I just do think even without Trump in the major news cycle, it's somewhat normal.

00:03:33.380 But then Trump pops up every two weeks, whether it's a Mar-a-Lago raid or it's the Georgia

00:03:39.680 investigation or this attorney general politically oriented investigation in New York.

00:03:44.740 You know, something always happens.

00:03:48.740 Right.

00:03:49.060 Yeah.

00:03:49.480 And I imagine that's only going to get only going to be more so of the case.

00:03:54.620 It's it's very interesting that we can't seem to let go of Trump.

00:03:58.020 But then, of course, also, he likes to be in that that limelight and likes to be part

00:04:02.280 of what's going on, it seems like.

00:04:04.840 Right.

00:04:07.140 I think that's correct.

00:04:09.000 I think you could do do without the court cases.

00:04:11.920 Yeah.

00:04:12.440 You know, a lot of these self-inflicted wounds.

00:04:14.360 I mean, there are certain things, the Russia investigation, nothing to do with him.

00:04:18.260 You know, the the the attorney general in New York, nothing to do with him.

00:04:22.660 But the documents, why why take them home?

00:04:26.440 Why even bother?

00:04:27.260 Georgia, you know, the election's done.

00:04:30.060 You don't need to call people up and try to do something that's even remotely could be

00:04:35.420 trans be understood as illegal.

00:04:38.480 So, you know, the January six things leading up to it.

00:04:41.860 Donald Trump had just said, hey, I get some problems with the election.

00:04:45.820 There's a lot of pandemic related things.

00:04:47.780 They still don't make sense to me.

00:04:49.400 I'm going to put my lawyers on it by December 5th.

00:04:53.100 If nothing comes up, I'm going to welcome the Bidens to the White House. 0.98

00:04:56.160 You have about 65 percent approval rating right now.

00:04:59.240 Yeah, I bet that's the case.

00:05:00.320 Yeah, it's it's the baggage that comes along with it that makes people an otherwise somebody

00:05:06.380 who would otherwise vote for and very skeptical.

00:05:08.500 It's all that extra baggage that doesn't need to be there.

00:05:11.360 Yeah.

00:05:11.940 Besides that is leadership for the international policies, the trade deal of doing everything

00:05:17.000 you can to secure the border, keeping taxes low, letting people earn a living.

00:05:22.960 I think there's a lot of positives there.

00:05:24.920 How do you think it shakes out when we move into the presidential elections of the next

00:05:29.040 several years?

00:05:30.320 I think Glenn Youngkin runs.

00:05:32.020 I think Trump runs.

00:05:33.980 I think Pompeo runs.

00:05:35.960 I think Pence runs.

00:05:37.980 I think on the left, you got the governor of Illinois.

00:05:41.080 You got the governor of California.

00:05:42.940 You have Vice President Harris.

00:05:46.080 Who else thinks they're popular enough to run?

00:05:50.260 You think Buttigieg will make another run at it, another go at it?

00:05:53.240 Yeah, absolutely.

00:05:55.100 There's nobody less worthy.

00:05:57.800 Who has a worst track record.

00:06:00.160 He's done a phenomenal job with electric cars.

00:06:02.440 The first guy to run out of bad supply chain.

00:06:03.260 That's what I was going to say, yeah.

00:06:04.960 Yeah, I screw up the airports and the supply chain.

00:06:07.800 I like to be president.

00:06:10.380 What about DeSantis?

00:06:12.460 Is that somebody you think he'll run?

00:06:15.840 I think there's better at 50-50% chance.

00:06:19.160 But the problem is he's very similar to Trump.

00:06:21.160 And if you divide up the Trump vote, and even if you get the nomination, you can't win.

00:06:26.380 But you see the Governor Chris Christie thing, and you realize you get a window.

00:06:31.420 And if that window closes, it doesn't necessarily ever reopen again.

00:06:35.120 And that's maybe what Christie's looking at.

00:06:36.840 He had that window when Romney was the nominee.

00:06:39.900 And he thought, hey, I've only been doing this a couple of years, guys.

00:06:42.480 Thanks, but no thanks.

00:06:43.980 I think in retrospect, he thinks he could have won.

00:06:45.740 Yeah, I think you're right about how that splits up the vote between Trump and DeSantis.

00:06:53.560 It's unfortunate because I think DeSantis is a better politician.

00:06:56.840 I think he's got the balls and the backbone to be able to do a lot of what Trump was able to do.

00:07:01.480 But he has a little bit more finesse regarding the political arena and spectrum that I think is needed in the political climate.

00:07:08.360 I think your assessment's 100%. 1.00

00:07:12.280 And, you know, there's a story out yesterday on Drudge that former aide to Ron DeSantis thinks Donald Trump's a moron. 0.98

00:07:20.580 And two days prior, the New York Times, there's a rivalry between DeSantis and Greg Abbott. 0.98

00:07:25.960 And I'm thinking to myself, who's doing that?

00:07:28.860 It seems as though they're so worried about DeSantis that they're starting to make up rivalries.

00:07:35.380 Yeah, and they know that if they get Trump angry, they'll both run and divide the party.

00:07:42.020 Hmm, that's interesting.

00:07:43.760 There's a lot of things that I think were manipulated by and you being in the media probably get a better sneak at this than we do.

00:07:50.700 But there's so much and so many ways that we, the American public, are deceived.

00:07:57.180 And it seems like we're just willfully ignorant to what in the world is happening around us.

00:08:02.640 We don't even want to know.

00:08:03.440 Just feed us, feed us whatever we need and we'll consume that.

00:08:07.120 Either that or overdosed with it.

00:08:10.280 And we don't know what to believe because it's coming out with us like a blizzard.

00:08:14.580 I do feel as though I do remember when the 6 o'clock news or the 11 o'clock, the 6 o'clock news really drove the narrative.

00:08:22.240 Hey, let's find out what's going on with the Vietnam War.

00:08:24.760 Coming up at 6, the latest on the Vietnam War.

00:08:26.840 Can you imagine that?

00:08:28.120 Waiting for your newspaper to be delivered to find out what's in the news.

00:08:31.180 So it was pretty streamlined.

00:08:33.500 I thought it would be easy to be manipulated back then than it would be now.

00:08:39.740 But now it's overcompensation with, okay, I'm going to go on Fox.

00:08:44.420 I'm going to go on The Daily Caller, The Daily Beast.

00:08:48.080 I'm going to go on MSNBC, NBC.

00:08:52.480 I'm going to go by local news.

00:08:54.940 And after a while you say, well, they all contradict each other or are they getting different angles of the story or are they left out the story?

00:09:01.460 And it kind of confuses people and makes you either throw up your hands or dive right in.

00:09:05.140 So what do you see your role as then as part of this?

00:09:10.160 You know, you're delivering the news.

00:09:11.700 You're giving people information and sharing what you think is pertinent.

00:09:14.560 So what do you see your role and how maybe does it differ than somebody else or another station?

00:09:20.420 Yeah, I don't worry about what other people do.

00:09:24.240 You know, I've been here long enough where, you know, the thing of this I think is great about our channel is that Tucker has a totally different view, let's say, on Ukraine than I do.

00:09:34.020 He doesn't check with Hannity, nor does Laura check with Tucker.

00:09:37.880 And now Trace Gallagher takes over the 11 will be a new story.

00:09:43.400 My goal is to read as much as I can, talk to smart people like you as often as possible, work the contacts when it's possible, utilize the brain room, which is a living, breathing encyclopedia that we have here and contacts in order to give context to stories that we have going on.

00:10:01.840 You know, and there's a lot of things that we had.

00:10:04.320 I had Martha McCallum and Bill Hemmer on the radio today.

00:10:07.880 And I said, you know, a lot of these issues used to be tough.

00:10:10.560 Should you privatize Social Security?

00:10:12.820 You know, what what's happening with stem cell research?

00:10:16.820 Is it unethical to use, you know, fetus stem cells in order to save an Alzheimer's patient like Nancy Reagan said it was OK?

00:10:27.500 We used to have interesting conversations.

00:10:29.400 Now it's like, should we open the border wide open or just totally open?

00:10:33.720 You know, should we let 16,000 Venezuelans stay in tents in the Bronx or should we not? 1.00

00:10:41.140 I don't know.

00:10:41.800 I'm going to side with not.

00:10:43.860 You know, so we went from needing an intellectual think tank of scholars to excuse me.

00:10:50.700 Is there someone trying to destroy the country who's in charge of the country?

00:10:54.780 And are we not seeing the elephant in the room on these stories?

00:10:58.780 We're no longer split the atom as some of this stuff is just so I'll give an example.

00:11:05.420 There's two sides to the Ukraine war.

00:11:07.420 I'll debate that with you.

00:11:09.280 I'd enjoy here what you have to say on it. 0.77

00:11:11.120 Doesn't mean you're a lunatic if you disagree or a genius if you do.

00:11:14.540 But when it comes to immigration, when it comes to green energy, when it comes to oil and gas, when it comes to these spending bills, I mean, there's right and wrong in my view.

00:11:27.360 Yeah, I agree.

00:11:28.160 I think the Overton window has been shifted.

00:11:30.540 A great example of that would be, you know, you look at the conversation that was happening five years ago, longer than that.

00:11:38.940 Not that long, though, where people were making the case that sex and gender are different.

00:11:44.560 And now we're talking about not that we're talking about can men have babies?

00:11:48.020 It's like, wait, wait, wait, wait a second.

00:11:49.840 Like we moved, you know, from sex is different than gender to men can mean anything.

00:11:56.520 Now men can have babies like that. 1.00

00:11:58.000 Overton window just continues to get shifted.

00:12:00.300 And all of a sudden we're not talking about real biological issues.

00:12:04.260 We're talking about some weird, frankly, just some weird perverted stuff that just wouldn't have flown five years ago, 10 years ago.

00:12:12.220 It started really the governor of North Carolina came out and said we should have a men's and women's room when asked.

00:12:18.520 And they basically ousted him and destroyed his political career, became a talk show host.

00:12:22.980 And now we're saying today the debate was I was on with some Olympic swimmer and Senator Rand Paul on TV just going to reaffirm that women should not be competing against men that claim to be women like Leah Thomas.

00:12:38.440 And we're debating on should women compete against only women in women's sports?

00:12:42.960 You think so?

00:12:44.200 Because you decide to change sexes. 0.96

00:12:46.520 You now want to go win a gold medal or an NCAA title.

00:12:50.500 I'm sorry.

00:12:51.060 That's not going to happen because if you allow the swim, you're going to allow the soccer player.

00:12:56.740 Do you know you could take a U-15 national boys team and they'll beat our U.S. women's national team?

00:13:02.540 Right.

00:13:02.740 So do you want a 21-year-old center forward who claims to be a woman starring for Brazil as they beat the U.S. in the final? 0.96

00:13:12.400 Because we want to be inclusive and understanding and tolerant?

00:13:16.020 No, there's right and wrong.

00:13:17.120 Women deserve a chance at a gold medal competing against other women.

00:13:22.300 And that's where this whole argument is gone.

00:13:25.000 And now should you tell second graders to not pick a gender until they're in fifth or seventh grade?

00:13:33.580 And that's what Governor DeSantis is saying.

00:13:35.600 They labeled it the don't say gay bill.

00:13:38.540 It's like, no, don't bring up gender or sexual preference with kids that should be kids.

00:13:44.040 Right.

00:13:44.960 And he looks like a genius when it seems just logical.

00:13:49.860 That's a good point.

00:13:51.060 Well, and other genius political moves.

00:13:53.680 Honestly, calling it the don't say gay bill was a genius move because Democrats.

00:14:00.940 Right.

00:14:01.380 Right.

00:14:01.740 Of course, because they know that nobody's going to go in there and research.

00:14:06.240 Nobody's really going to think about it.

00:14:07.540 They're going to take that snippet, that headline that we've all been trained and conditioned to look at and say, well, that must be what it is. 0.88

00:14:12.740 So these people are intolerant of gay people. 0.92

00:14:15.340 Yeah. 0.54

00:14:15.680 I mean, to label that wrongly, the don't say gay bill, the first thing you've got to do in the conversation is label it accurately.

00:14:20.680 It's parental rights bill.

00:14:23.400 That's what it is.

00:14:24.700 And our answer is very simple now.

00:14:27.460 Our answer is, OK, are you going to do that curriculum?

00:14:29.940 Because if you're going to do that, my kid's going to homeschool or private school.

00:14:34.000 But the answer would be in my situation growing up, I didn't have money for a private school.

00:14:38.880 So now do what Arizona did.

00:14:40.660 If you got seven thousand put aside for you to go to one semester of grammar school or fifth grade, I'd like that seven thousand two hundred dollars to follow me to the Catholic school down the block for the charter school two miles away.

00:14:55.640 Yeah.

00:14:55.780 So then I'm paying the private school with money that's been allocated through tax dollars, let alone a scholarship I might earn.

00:15:03.560 And that would force these public schools to stop with the agenda driven curriculum.

00:15:08.260 Yeah, I mean, you get that you get things like tenure, you know, for for for school teachers and things like that, which is an issue as well.

00:15:14.800 My wife and I were actually talking about this at our son's football game yesterday.

00:15:18.480 And I don't know the exact number.

00:15:20.080 You're saying seven thousand two hundred roughly.

00:15:22.220 She saw a statistic that it was up to fifteen thousand dollars per child per year.

00:15:29.240 And I'm thinking to myself with our four children, you know, that we homeschool like, great, give me that fifteen thousand dollars and let us per child.

00:15:37.760 So that's sixty grand and let us decide what we're going to do with that money.

00:15:43.080 We could do it with, what, ten percent of that because the average homeschooler, she was saying, cost, I believe what she said with curriculum and everything else, the average cost for homeschool was less than a thousand dollars a year versus fifteen thousand per year.

00:16:01.420 It's insanity.

00:16:02.880 Give you a lot of credit for doing that homeschool.

00:16:04.800 And that's that's a lot.

00:16:06.580 Well, my wife deserves that credit. 0.99

00:16:07.840 But, yeah, well, that takes a lot.

00:16:11.020 But I guess the positive is you get a close family and you definitely know you definitely understand what they're up to during the day.

00:16:19.040 Yeah, yeah, most definitely.

00:16:21.400 And there are pros and cons to it.

00:16:23.120 Right.

00:16:23.400 You know, and there's sacrifices that need to be made to make it happen.

00:16:26.000 But, you know, I think at this point and anymore, if you really care about your kids, this is the direction that we're just going to have to go.

00:16:31.700 We're going to have to take this under our own, which is where it should be on our own shoulders anyways.

00:16:36.480 Right.

00:16:36.660 I get frustrated in that we collectively tend to pawn off these responsibilities to the government, other entities and agencies that we think have our best interest at heart.

00:16:47.500 Yeah.

00:16:47.840 I mean, I was hoping that we wouldn't have to breathe down any teacher's neck in order to find out what exactly was going on.

00:16:53.060 But that seems to be the case.

00:16:54.880 So the whole pronoun thing is the other thing.

00:16:57.740 OK, we just need you to pick a couple of pronouns by the end of the week.

00:17:00.980 I thought that was a joke.

00:17:01.980 But now it's becoming institutionalized.

00:17:04.340 So that's insane. 0.77

00:17:05.600 But see, that type of stuff that when you have people like Bill Maher sounding off and saying that's ridiculous, who's as liberal as it comes. 0.85

00:17:14.300 I hope I hope there's a degree of sanity.

00:17:16.880 And the only thing that'll write, I think the only thing that we'll try to drill home is.

00:17:21.320 If it turns out, the Democrats pay a huge price in the midterms, just on pure political survival, they'll be forced to shelve some of this stuff.

00:17:30.020 For example, you know, if I told you two and a half years ago that any politician who wants a future would not be saying defund the police, you'd go, oh, Brian, now that horse is out of the barn.

00:17:40.300 But now I got all these Democrats pretending as if we weren't paying attention, saying, yeah, I'm for cracking down.

00:17:46.840 Yeah, I'm for more cops.

00:17:48.560 I'm for increased pay.

00:17:49.660 I'm for that cop bill.

00:17:50.660 So a lot of times we're a self-correcting country, and I believe that that could be the same thing with schools, I hope.

00:17:57.320 Yeah, I hope that's the case.

00:17:58.460 I mean, isn't that the point?

00:17:59.780 That's, I think, how the founders wanted it to be, that we would correct as we would go along and that the elections would be a big part of that.

00:18:09.300 It seems to me anymore that so many people are just voting straight line or, you know, whoever they hear from the most.

00:18:16.740 And that's part of the problem is the funding.

00:18:18.420 It's like these politicians, whoever gets the most funding is going to be the one who wins.

00:18:22.400 And we see that in school, too.

00:18:23.580 It's a popularity contest, right?

00:18:25.980 Right.

00:18:27.640 Yeah, I think that my hope is it's going to straighten out.

00:18:31.320 I don't know if I'm in a bubble.

00:18:32.500 I know I'm not because Long Island is sometimes blue, sometimes a red area.

00:18:36.180 New York City is very blue.

00:18:37.480 So, you know, Fox has got a diversity of opinions.

00:18:40.980 You only see the people in front, but there's so many people behind the camera.

00:18:44.500 I do believe that there's a logic that's going to creep through society again.

00:18:49.240 And it takes things to get really bad before they get better.

00:18:52.240 And I think crime is one major thing that people realize, wait a second, Karen Bass gets her house broken into. 0.98

00:18:58.740 You have these two lawmakers, one in Pennsylvania, one in Illinois, who came out to defund the police,

00:19:04.040 who are kayjacked within carjacked within 90 minutes of each other.

00:19:07.920 We see this video of this woman who just wants to walk across a platform and a guy comes on to her.

00:19:14.760 She keeps walking and then she gets a crap beat out of her and she's about to lose an eye. 0.83

00:19:19.440 And people say it could have been made.

00:19:21.900 So, I think that there's something creeping to society to maybe get a hold of all this stuff that we can't quite figure out.

00:19:29.840 Yeah.

00:19:29.860 Well, and I think that's also a rise of different types of media outlets, even like this one and podcasting and radio that you're heavily involved in,

00:19:38.060 where it's more accessible, I think, than it's ever been, which in some ways gives everybody a platform.

00:19:45.500 And as long as people that maybe shouldn't have a platform, as long as people don't get burned out on it,

00:19:50.900 I think it actually begins to expose ideas that are horrible, horrible ideas, but also brings light to those that are good ideas.

00:19:57.240 Right. And look at the popularity of Joe Rogan. Please tell me what network hired him. None.

00:20:02.600 He was one of the first, along with Adam Carolla, to do this.

00:20:06.220 No, everyone told him it wouldn't work. It's going to go on too long.

00:20:08.860 There's no direction. There's no sponsors.

00:20:11.160 Well, the sponsors came. The direction worked itself out.

00:20:14.200 And now they tried to destroy him and they couldn't.

00:20:18.920 All right, man. Let me just hit the pause button very quickly on the conversation with Brian.

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00:21:18.740 For now, let's get back to it with Brian.

00:21:21.560 How do you personally decide with all of these topics and directions and different places that you could go?

00:21:28.300 How do you personally decide what you want to cover, what you want to address?

00:21:31.780 I know you've got, I think you've got six books written and there's like so much you could cover.

00:21:36.580 How do you distill what it is you want to make sure you hit on?

00:21:39.620 Are you talking about on a daily basis or what type of book?

00:21:43.660 Both, daily basis and then even what you decide to write about and go a deeper dive on.

00:21:48.700 Well, with President Freedom Fighter, that's now in a paperback I just added to it.

00:21:53.400 I wanted to move up through the Civil War, but it's the most written about war.

00:21:56.720 It's the most polarizing war.

00:22:00.080 And I said Lincoln is the most written about.

00:22:01.860 Frederick Douglass, David Blight just wrote Book of the Year.

00:22:04.540 I think it was in 19 or whatever it was, 2005 was Book of the Year.

00:22:08.500 I thought, how do I write about both these guys and talk about race in America in an intelligent way, using history as my guide as opposed to emotion and pretending as if I understood like half the people that are ripping down these statues have no idea what they're doing, have no idea the context in which they were put up.

00:22:26.900 So I thought in the beginning, I thought, wouldn't it be good to go about history?

00:22:30.620 People like news users like history.

00:22:32.580 I think if I wanted a book tour, people would buy it.

00:22:35.080 And I certainly love talking about it.

00:22:37.280 And then next thing you know, there's a war on history.

00:22:39.320 So now I really dug in double and triple and I made sure I knew my facts and was ready to back it up with more facts and quotes because there's a counter narrative out there and it's anti-American.

00:22:50.080 So with George Washington's Secret Six, it's something I just was passionate about, looked at for 20 years when that was when, well, they kept asking me to do other books and I've just kind of moved through time.

00:23:01.460 And that's what and now I'm talking a lot about race and where we're at.

00:23:06.180 Next one I'm working on is Booker T and Teddy Roosevelt.

00:23:08.920 And these two guys, so they came together at the exact right time to move America in a positive direction, which means we're not perfect, but we're trying to be.

00:23:19.960 And here are the people that deserve a lot of credit for making us a more perfect union.

00:23:24.380 So that's how I decided in a positive way.

00:23:26.380 How do I present things?

00:23:28.080 Because I have enough negativity.

00:23:29.420 And on a daily basis, I try to think of things that matter most, not really into the culture thing.

00:23:35.440 If you have a flag in a condo complex, all right, you know, work it out.

00:23:41.220 But in terms of the anti-Americanism, the immigration situation, in terms of what's going on with our economy, the green energy as opposed to the fossil fuels, things that affect people on a daily basis.

00:23:55.280 And of course, the whole international relations, foreign issues from China to Russia to what's happening in the Middle East.

00:24:02.140 I can't get enough of that stuff.

00:24:03.560 So I try to decide stuff I like, which is to mix with the things that affect people's life the most.

00:24:09.760 So if I love talking about Ukraine and I find that people aren't interested, we're not directly involved in the war, people have moved on.

00:24:17.240 I'll do it on my own, but we'll bring it on the show.

00:24:20.540 Got it.

00:24:20.760 And then when Ukraine becomes number one again, when Vladimir Putin's running for his life, I'm ready to go.

00:24:26.940 I got depth on the issue.

00:24:28.080 I'm going to go deep.

00:24:29.100 China, people are a little burnt out on China.

00:24:31.400 But when China becomes, you know, as they stop doing with their zero COVID policy and start becoming a menace big time again, I'm ready to go. 0.95

00:24:40.720 But I don't necessarily think that's on the forefront of everyone's mind.

00:24:44.160 I think that's a good consideration because on one hand, somebody might hear that and think, oh, well, you know, you're just trying to get clicks.

00:24:50.640 But on the other hand, if people aren't interested in it, nobody's going to be informed about it.

00:24:55.980 They're not going to spend any time.

00:24:57.220 And if you can't deliver it in a powerful way, that's another thing most people don't consider.

00:25:00.900 It's got to be somewhat entertaining, especially when you're competing with TikTok and Snapchat and Instagram and all these other platforms.

00:25:08.080 Yeah.

00:25:08.220 I mean, I'm sure you run into the same thing.

00:25:10.200 You know, there's stuff that you're really passionate about.

00:25:11.700 You think to yourself, every time I bring it up, most of my friends roll their eyes or lose attention or interrupt me with the question or ask for directions.

00:25:18.360 I think, OK, I'm pretty much to keep these ideas to myself.

00:25:23.600 So that's just it.

00:25:25.300 I mean, every day they put together packets of information and with the best articles.

00:25:30.860 So when I get up at 2.30 and I'm on the way to work at 3 and they send a car so I can get work done on the way home, I'm on the train and I'm looking at stuff.

00:25:41.360 I'm already I've already got all this stuff consolidated, let alone stuff I watched last night, let alone books them in the middle of.

00:25:48.180 So that's how I hit the ground running on a daily basis.

00:25:51.720 So so you're you're on you hit the road at 3 a.m.

00:25:54.560 Is that right?

00:25:55.100 Is that what you just said?

00:25:55.860 Yeah.

00:25:56.420 Yeah.

00:25:56.740 Wow.

00:25:57.940 Up at 225.

00:25:59.120 And then and then what's your what's your day look like?

00:26:02.820 I mean, obviously, you're you're on air and you're recording, you're studying, you're researching.

00:26:05.980 And then what is how does that how does that can come to a conclusion?

00:26:09.700 Well, I mean, I got all these radio affiliates.

00:26:12.000 So I do at least one radio hit between between four and five thirty.

00:26:19.440 And then I do stuff for W.A.B.C.

00:26:21.680 I do customize things and sponsored talk in New York.

00:26:25.220 So I'll give them four minutes on New York for the 10 o'clock and 11 o'clock hour.

00:26:29.720 So I want to give people the impression I'm actually in New York.

00:26:32.080 It's a valuable market, probably arguably the most lucrative market.

00:26:36.580 And I want to give people the sense I'm doing a local show, even though it's national.

00:26:40.380 So they gave me that four minutes up top.

00:26:42.140 So I pump that out.

00:26:43.080 So I do eight minutes of that.

00:26:44.100 And then I do a voiceover generic promo for every radio station that carries carries me.

00:26:50.140 And I do a customized one for W.A.B.C.

00:26:52.200 And this morning I hopped on on W.A.B.C. and W.D.B.O. of Orlando.

00:26:57.940 And I'll go do something with their morning show hosts.

00:27:01.240 So I just want to give these stations a sense that I'm part of their lineup.

00:27:05.040 I'm not just sitting in New York pumping out a syndicated show.

00:27:08.400 So I do that.

00:27:09.680 Hop on the air from six to nine at nine oh six.

00:27:11.700 I do a three hour radio show.

00:27:13.740 And today I was supposed to do Gutfeld, which tapes at six thirty.

00:27:16.500 That's been canceled because of the hurricane.

00:27:18.660 Yesterday I did the five.

00:27:20.820 But then afterwards I meet with the staff, the weekend show, One Nation.

00:27:26.160 And we're working on an hour show all week about what will work.

00:27:30.140 You know, am I getting Blake Masters on?

00:27:32.400 Am I trying for Herschel Walker this week?

00:27:34.580 What do you think is going to be something that's going to hold up?

00:27:37.680 Ainsley has a book out.

00:27:38.660 I want to put Ainsley on.

00:27:39.780 And so she'll close the show and we're just I meet with them for forty five minutes.

00:27:46.200 And then I got the paperback coming out the third week in October and I'll try to do some

00:27:51.260 events there and try to do some stuff with Fox Nation.

00:27:54.980 I do a series called What Made America Great and I'll still do the periodic shoots.

00:27:59.380 It's like, right, it's like a big gym.

00:28:01.340 Once you start the day, it's whatever they need.

00:28:04.380 You have certain things you got to do.

00:28:05.820 And then I say, hey, Brian, can you join me at 215?

00:28:09.300 I want to talk about the World Cup or can you join me at 240?

00:28:12.980 I saw a passage you were this morning about these 10 cities in the Bronx.

00:28:17.740 You want to come on and talk about it with John Roberts.

00:28:20.440 And if I could do it, I'll do it.

00:28:21.720 Kennedy's taping early today.

00:28:23.080 Can I join her at 315?

00:28:25.860 OK, you know, let's do it.

00:28:28.100 And for the most part, I try to do it.

00:28:29.460 You've got a you've got an incredible team, obviously, to be able to handle that.

00:28:33.420 And then even when I came on One Nation, I saw a glimpse into the team and the system.

00:28:39.020 And I got a call 45 minutes before to do the sound and the video check.

00:28:43.260 And then it came on.

00:28:44.320 Yeah.

00:28:44.540 Like you guys have that down to a science.

00:28:47.360 It's pretty incredible.

00:28:48.700 Yeah.

00:28:48.900 Well, they really got good in the pandemic because we're right now we're on Zoom, right?

00:28:53.980 Are we on Zoom?

00:28:54.700 Zoom, right.

00:28:55.780 Yeah, Zoom.

00:28:56.220 OK, so whether it's Zoom, Scott, I don't know if we do Zoom for broadcast, but definitely

00:29:00.440 Skype or FaceTime.

00:29:02.980 So they had the hosts everywhere around the country.

00:29:05.240 We couldn't come into work.

00:29:06.460 And with the guests, you can be the big name guest.

00:29:08.380 But if you're Carl Rovin, you can't work the camera in your office.

00:29:12.400 So we got to be in your ear.

00:29:13.820 We have texts in your ear saying, Carl, you're too close to the camera.

00:29:17.820 You got to back up.

00:29:19.280 But, you know, so we have a pretty good team.

00:29:20.780 But I think that's more an example of Fox.

00:29:24.200 I mean, there's there's people here and now CNN's finding this out.

00:29:29.180 Their staffs are too big, getting paid too much to do too little.

00:29:32.960 Fox, whose whole business model was empower people to do more.

00:29:38.020 I don't know about what everyone's making, but make people feel a part of the ownership

00:29:42.360 of the product.

00:29:43.340 So they're pretty into it.

00:29:44.840 You know, they're lining you up.

00:29:45.980 They're not doing me a favor.

00:29:47.820 They're doing their job.

00:29:49.140 And then they're really into it for the most part.

00:29:51.760 And I think Fox won a lot of people over with the pandemic, people they couldn't use.

00:29:55.480 Cameraman still got paid.

00:29:57.460 Nobody really didn't get paid.

00:29:59.360 They stepped on staff.

00:30:01.900 So I think they've built a lot of loyalty there.

00:30:05.700 When you tell cameraman, you don't have to work for five months.

00:30:07.900 We're going to pay you until you can figure out how bad this how bad COVID-19 is.

00:30:13.320 So I think that's part of the reason why I think they built a lot of loyalty.

00:30:17.480 Yeah.

00:30:17.980 Yeah, I can see that.

00:30:18.820 How do you stay on top of everything that you have to do?

00:30:21.760 You're talking about these tent cities, for example, in the Bronx and different things

00:30:25.500 that come up.

00:30:26.300 It just seems like there's so much information.

00:30:28.280 How do you stay on top of all of that?

00:30:29.660 Is it reading different sources?

00:30:31.120 Is it just snippets of information?

00:30:34.040 I mean, I go through the Times, the Washington Post, the Washington Times, the New York Post,

00:30:37.380 on a daily basis.

00:30:38.200 And then I got them pulling different people, pulling editorials and stories for all three

00:30:43.960 of us in the morning.

00:30:45.020 And then a lot of times the radio guys will surprise me.

00:30:47.520 They're like, yeah, Bill Maher was great on Monday.

00:30:49.300 Listen to this.

00:30:50.800 Or they'll pull off on another channel.

00:30:54.500 They'll pull off a great guest like Steve Case, who came up with AOL, kind of introduced

00:30:58.980 the Internet to the world.

00:31:00.900 They pulled off some great stuff on entrepreneurship.

00:31:03.420 I didn't tell them to do that.

00:31:04.700 They just pull that off.

00:31:06.040 So you have all these teams doing things.

00:31:08.440 And then when you flip around, you see some great soundbites where you see the lunacy or

00:31:14.260 the unorthodox approach the view is taking.

00:31:17.060 You realize, OK, I got to I got to bring some of that sound back.

00:31:20.700 So it's it's that's why I have a hard time taking time off.

00:31:23.840 I don't know about you, Ryan, but I have time.

00:31:25.880 I have trouble stepping away because if I step away and then people are like, you said what

00:31:30.300 happened with the Solomon Islands, right?

00:31:32.480 No.

00:31:33.700 Oh, you hear what happened with the Chinese and Russians off the coast of Alaska?

00:31:38.740 No, I have no.

00:31:40.340 So if I miss a week, I can't shut down.

00:31:43.020 But I realize I don't want to shut down.

00:31:46.300 This is my enjoyment because I have no hobbies.

00:31:49.080 If you see me golf, you'll realize he clearly is not working on his game.

00:31:53.220 So, you know, my, you know, I work out five days a week.

00:31:59.220 But besides that, besides that, I'm going home, three kids.

00:32:05.040 I got stuff going on, but I'm going to see them play soccer in college and things like

00:32:10.080 that.

00:32:10.360 But but for the most part, you know, that's what I like doing this.

00:32:14.980 I like keeping up with it.

00:32:15.980 This is this is work because it takes time, but it's not work.

00:32:19.660 Right.

00:32:20.500 Right.

00:32:20.880 That's what I found.

00:32:21.720 I've I've I've interviewed so many successful men like like yourself who, yeah, they they

00:32:27.000 for lack of a better word, an obsession about what it is they do.

00:32:30.920 And they just don't have the time nor desire to really do anything else and gives them full

00:32:35.680 opportunity to delve into this.

00:32:37.240 What time do you get home?

00:32:38.100 You get you get to the office at three.

00:32:39.660 What time do you wrap up for the day?

00:32:41.280 Well, I mean, last week was a quiet week.

00:32:42.760 So I'm able to hop on a two twenty two thirty five train.

00:32:46.100 I'm home at four.

00:32:46.860 You know, this was great when I when the kids were younger, I was able to coach soccer

00:32:49.720 for about 15 years, got an advanced national license and, you know, was able to keep them

00:32:57.360 to all the tournaments because I could pick them up from school.

00:32:59.940 You know that I would and they weren't in the beginning.

00:33:02.220 They weren't asking me to stay that much.

00:33:04.100 You kind of do your show.

00:33:04.960 You do the radio show and then do a story here or there.

00:33:08.740 But now the new business model is if you see the same like you see a lot of us all over

00:33:13.200 the place, I'm doing our number, doing the five because they need me.

00:33:16.740 So, OK, you need me.

00:33:18.440 I'm in if you know, I'm glad they're calling my number, but I could get I could get home

00:33:22.980 three forty five.

00:33:24.740 I went at one point if I had to, I could be on a one o'clock train.

00:33:29.580 And you want to be in New York City.

00:33:31.100 People don't know watching around the country.

00:33:32.680 You don't want to be in a car in New York City after two, especially now.

00:33:37.220 I was no one trust mass transportation.

00:33:38.820 You just sit and you sit and travel.

00:33:41.680 Yeah, I mean, I know people that were having, you know, three three hour commutes or longer.

00:33:46.200 And I just oh, I couldn't imagine how to do that.

00:33:49.200 I mean, absolutely.

00:33:50.720 You know, and it's like, why?

00:33:52.820 Why do you do that?

00:33:53.700 It's like, oh, you know, standard of living or they feel trapped or whatever.

00:33:56.620 But I'm like, man, you got it.

00:33:57.700 You got it.

00:33:58.380 You got to get out of that environment.

00:33:59.920 But I don't I don't personally understand it.

00:34:02.060 But I know some people are all about it.

00:34:04.340 I know.

00:34:04.580 And your story is interesting, too.

00:34:06.100 But you never you never thought, I guess, for a while you'd be doing this, right?

00:34:09.760 No, I mean, my my still I'm about my background is financial planning, you know, so I would

00:34:13.800 sit down face to face with clients and meet with them one to one and help with retirement

00:34:17.560 planning.

00:34:17.980 And now to be doing this and to think about how many people we reach or to write a book

00:34:22.760 and and it it reach, you know, hundreds of thousands of people.

00:34:26.200 It's just it's so crazy to think about.

00:34:28.480 It's a very wild ride we've been on.

00:34:30.940 Right.

00:34:31.160 And but just whatever it is, you just pursue it.

00:34:33.220 Right.

00:34:33.900 Yeah, I think so.

00:34:34.600 But, you know, also making sure and I don't know how you feel about this, but making sure

00:34:38.260 that you have your boundaries in place so you can do the other things that are important,

00:34:41.140 like your family seeing soccer.

00:34:42.580 Are they all out of the house now, the kids or you still have kids at home?

00:34:45.120 Well, for now, my one son's in law school with Tulane.

00:34:47.900 My two girls are in college, upstate New York, both playing soccer.

00:34:51.400 So I'm seeing him every three, four hours away.

00:34:54.120 But I will go up every weekend and watch him, watch them.

00:34:57.420 And then they'll could stagger back once on trimesters, a stagger back in November. 0.87

00:35:03.740 The other one will be back in December and the other one will be off for a month.

00:35:06.920 The other one goes back after college.

00:35:08.440 So we're just we're figuring it out now.

00:35:10.780 This is an interesting phase because one's going to graduate college.

00:35:14.540 Is she going to come home?

00:35:15.640 Probably.

00:35:16.000 And then my, you know, my my son's with the USFL and then decide to go for his law degree.

00:35:23.140 So at one point, he's going to be home.

00:35:24.660 He's going to be in Birmingham.

00:35:25.780 He's going to be home again.

00:35:26.720 So I don't know if I can say anyone's really out of the house.

00:35:30.160 I would say that there's there's no there's no flow.

00:35:34.600 When they were all in high school, well, you know exactly what they were doing.

00:35:38.020 And they were on.

00:35:39.000 Now it's now there's really no flow chart.

00:35:42.660 Yeah.

00:35:42.800 Well, even even in high school, you know, I've got my my oldest son is he's a freshman

00:35:48.180 in high school this year.

00:35:49.300 And even that, you know, I see I go drop him off at football and then he's like, hey,

00:35:54.840 dad, I'm going to stay and watch the girls soccer game.

00:35:57.500 And so it's like there's there we're losing even the consistency of that with having a son

00:36:01.720 in high school, which has been a weird transition for us.

00:36:04.580 Right.

00:36:04.740 You want them to do their own thing and be independent.

00:36:06.760 But it's also hard to get them around the table to do something traditional, find out what

00:36:10.780 they did during the day and you got to catch up to them in the beginning.

00:36:14.460 It's they don't want to do anything without you.

00:36:16.120 First, they can't.

00:36:17.280 Then they don't want to.

00:36:18.940 Then they start doing their own thing.

00:36:20.140 Then you got to catch up to them.

00:36:22.100 Right.

00:36:22.860 And now I'm like, OK, let me catch up to them.

00:36:25.420 And I'm kind of glad they were independent.

00:36:26.860 But I also just said to myself, at this age, what role should I be playing?

00:36:32.940 I don't need to walk around telling them what to do.

00:36:34.840 But you do like to provide some type of life experience at this point while still treating

00:36:39.640 them with respect to their ages.

00:36:43.620 So you're just trying to figure it out, try to listen.

00:36:47.020 It takes a lot more thinking the older they get, because you got to go.

00:36:50.880 It's not so easy.

00:36:52.260 Don't touch that.

00:36:53.580 You will be on time.

00:36:55.540 Don't quit things.

00:36:57.200 But then when they have decisions to make in different things or relationships to negotiate,

00:37:02.960 OK, let me think this through.

00:37:04.580 Does this ever happen to me?

00:37:05.920 You know, what is the right answer here?

00:37:07.900 And maybe I just help them come up with a better answer as opposed to me telling them

00:37:11.900 my opinion.

00:37:13.280 Right.

00:37:13.840 Right.

00:37:14.260 Yeah, it's definitely more the older they get.

00:37:16.440 Anyways, it's more appreciated when they come up with an answer as opposed to you because

00:37:20.120 they're responsible.

00:37:22.260 They own it.

00:37:23.120 Right.

00:37:23.300 It's like, well, you just you made that decision, not me.

00:37:25.700 You know, they have to own that decision.

00:37:27.620 Yeah.

00:37:28.240 I know that you've got the president and freedom fighter coming out later next month.

00:37:34.000 What what is it?

00:37:34.860 What's another project that you're working on that you're really excited about?

00:37:37.160 You've got those couple of other books.

00:37:38.420 It sounds like is there anything else that's going on?

00:37:40.200 Yeah, I mean, I'm doing the series who is the person who is Zelensky, who is Alec Baldwin

00:37:45.980 coming up is who is Ron DeSantis.

00:37:49.040 And they're normally just track.

00:37:50.940 I mean, you do some stand ups around him and do some research.

00:37:52.860 But this one's going to be a little different in that I did this book called The Games Do

00:37:56.680 Count. And I want to do interview 72 people.

00:37:59.340 Then the other one was 93 people about what they did in sports that helped them in life.

00:38:03.960 And if you went pro, you aren't eligible for The Games Do Count.

00:38:07.720 So, like, why do we play sports if we're not going to be pro?

00:38:10.080 Are we wasting our time?

00:38:11.340 We'd be better off doing something else.

00:38:13.000 And since I was a very average Division II soccer player that wanted to be great and wasn't,

00:38:18.500 I thought, well, that's done.

00:38:20.620 I'm not going to bring that up to people.

00:38:23.560 All my friends were all Americans and have these rich.

00:38:27.080 They all have one great story after another.

00:38:29.120 I go, well, that was a waste of time.

00:38:30.560 I didn't know if there was a waste, but I just thought I have nothing to bury about.

00:38:33.460 Who cares about an average Division II player on a 500 team?

00:38:38.340 So then I realized there were more people like me than there were that became Michael Jordan

00:38:42.420 and John Elway.

00:38:43.900 So I started interviewing how these moments in sports that oftentimes resulted in not

00:38:49.880 great success and certainly not financial payoff, how they paid off in life.

00:38:55.460 And Ron DeSantis is an example of that.

00:38:57.980 He was totally shaped by his baseball career.

00:39:00.200 And I hooked up with his baseball coach.

00:39:02.280 I'm going to be going down prior to the hurricane.

00:39:05.160 It was going down to St. Petersburg and be able to talk to him about the guy that he knew

00:39:09.600 that he recruited to Yale.

00:39:12.420 And then who he became, what he was like on the field, and how a quiet guy in college

00:39:16.960 still was voted captive by his team.

00:39:19.300 So I want to get that angle.

00:39:21.440 So I'll be pursuing that.

00:39:23.440 So I'm just right now I'm researching two people at once, Booker T.

00:39:26.680 Washington and Teddy Roosevelt.

00:39:28.040 But I'm not going at it.

00:39:30.740 I'm focusing on what led to them coming together to form this power structure and move America

00:39:39.480 forward.

00:39:39.980 So I'm not doing a comprehensive biography on each of them.

00:39:42.300 But right now I'm spending all my time trying to find out more about them.

00:39:45.260 Yeah, interesting.

00:39:47.640 Well, Brian, I appreciate you.

00:39:49.040 I've been enjoying, obviously, your commentary for years and the opportunity for you to come

00:39:53.200 on the podcast.

00:39:53.960 We're going to sync everything up so the guys know where to go.

00:39:56.020 But man, it's hard because you have so much going on.

00:39:58.480 It's like, go here, go here.

00:39:59.700 Check this out.

00:40:00.300 Here's this thing.

00:40:00.960 Here's that.

00:40:01.580 You've got this new segment.

00:40:02.800 Who is DeSantis?

00:40:03.600 Who is, you know, whoever?

00:40:05.180 This is so much going on at all times.

00:40:07.220 I love it.

00:40:08.360 Well, yeah.

00:40:08.960 I mean, if anybody wants the President of Freedom Fighters, go to BrianKillme.com.

00:40:11.580 I could sign it and send it to you.

00:40:13.400 And I just think at a time in which we're always being engaged on race and people just

00:40:16.920 shut up, maybe you could read through these two men, understand what they went through

00:40:22.380 from the most obscure and adverse circumstances you can imagine, especially Douglas born a 0.96

00:40:28.380 slave, and then understand why you should never take down their statue and Lincoln's

00:40:33.340 name off a school, which is happening.

00:40:35.840 And if you go to BrianKillme.com, I also have a chance to talk about all my history books

00:40:39.880 and the sports books on stage in Brandon, Mississippi.

00:40:43.820 America, great from the start, as well as in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

00:40:47.620 So we can get tickets to that.

00:40:49.260 And then I have a chance to talk to people.

00:40:51.580 I do on the radio, maybe 12 a week, 12 a show.

00:40:54.380 But I'd love to be able to talk to a large group of people about what's happening in

00:40:58.220 the news and history in the country.

00:41:00.880 That's probably the most enjoyment I get.

00:41:03.380 Great.

00:41:03.740 We'll sync it all up.

00:41:04.840 Brian, thank you for all you do.

00:41:06.100 You're a busy man and it's making a difference.

00:41:08.720 Sometimes it may not feel like it, but it really is.

00:41:10.800 And it's definitely been instrumental in my life as I listen and see what you do, see

00:41:16.340 how you present and share and research.

00:41:18.960 It's very fascinating.

00:41:19.980 So I appreciate you, Brian.

00:41:21.240 All right.

00:41:21.540 Well, I'll get you on TV again soon.

00:41:23.460 Anytime.

00:41:24.140 I'm always game.

00:41:25.160 All right, man.

00:41:25.700 Go get him.

00:41:27.520 All right, you guys.

00:41:28.300 There you go.

00:41:28.660 My conversation with Brian Kilmeade.

00:41:30.280 I hope you enjoyed that one.

00:41:31.340 It was a real treat and honor for me, especially when you have somebody who's so good at his craft

00:41:36.660 and has done it for so long, very similar to my craft here, which is talking and sharing

00:41:41.320 information.

00:41:42.080 So I hope you enjoyed the conversation.

00:41:44.220 Connect with Brian on the socials.

00:41:46.400 Pick up a copy of his paperback version, The President and Freedom Fighter.

00:41:50.660 Also, again, one of my personal favorites is George Washington's Secret Six, the spy ring

00:41:55.560 that saved the American Revolution.

00:41:57.440 And also right now, just take a screenshot very quickly and then tag me and Brian on

00:42:03.620 Instagram is primarily where we're most active.

00:42:06.520 So tag us there, share it, let people know what you're listening to.

00:42:09.540 Or if you have picked up a copy of the book, go ahead and tag or take a picture of that

00:42:15.080 and tag me when you post that up and do hashtag masculinity manifesto.

00:42:21.960 Masculinity manifesto, tag me.

00:42:23.780 That goes a long way in promoting what we're doing.

00:42:25.940 All right, guys, you've got your marching orders.

00:42:28.500 We'll be back tomorrow for our Ask Me Anything.

00:42:30.720 Until then, go out there, take action and become the man you are meant to be.

00:42:34.700 Thank you for listening to the Order of Man podcast.

00:42:37.560 You're ready to take charge of your life and be more of the man you were meant to be.

00:42:41.520 We invite you to join the order at orderofman.com.

Order of Man - October 11, 2022

BRIAN KILMEADE ｜ An Overdose of Information

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