Order of Man - Building a Band of Brothers, Critical Survival Skills, and Fitness for a Busy Schedule

00:00:00.000 You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.

00:00:06.020 When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time. Every time.

00:00:10.480 You are not easily deterred or defeated. Rugged. Resilient. Strong.

00:00:15.520 This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become.

00:00:19.760 At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

00:00:25.180 Kip, what's going on, man?

00:00:26.200 Not much. Having a fun morning here at the office.

00:00:31.160 What makes it fun?

00:00:32.900 We hired a new guy. He's a senior resource. His expectation in regards to the first day on the

00:00:42.320 job is probably pretty high. Because of that, the team and I decided to put up a picnic table

00:00:49.000 in the back corner of a storage room with a six-year-old laptop with junk laying around.

00:00:55.140 And we had the front office lady say, oh, sorry, things are a little tight, and placed

00:01:01.080 him there. And we let him fester for a few.

00:01:04.240 Really? What's a few? Like a couple of minutes or like an hour?

00:01:07.840 Well, I was planning on an hour. And my wife's like, you better not do that. Because he'll

00:01:11.820 probably call his old boss and like walk out and quit. So I'm like, you know, that's a good

00:01:16.580 point. So I was thinking 30 minutes and I only lasted maybe 10 because I was feeling so bad for

00:01:24.800 him. Like I looked around the corner. He didn't even have the laptop open. He was like on his phone.

00:01:30.420 Oh, really?

00:01:31.120 Oh, that's funny.

00:01:32.040 Totally.

00:01:33.420 So it was really funny.

00:01:35.080 Yeah. You've got some adventures there. I've got some adventures here. I'm currently working through

00:01:39.880 our inventory to open the store back up, which we're going to be running out of our house,

00:01:44.420 but my son's going to be running it, which is kind of cool. It should be interesting,

00:01:48.980 an interesting learning curve.

00:01:50.600 You going to charge him rent for storage?

00:01:53.640 No, I'm paying him to do it, man.

00:01:55.560 Oh.

00:01:57.200 Well, I got to pay it anyways. I might as well pay him and teach him how to work, you know?

00:02:01.560 Well, to be frank on your taxes, right? You can do a square footage of the home for managing the

00:02:07.900 inventory too.

00:02:08.560 That is true because we're going to be doing it in the basement and it's looking filled.

00:02:13.500 I didn't realize we had so much stuff. Oh my goodness. Thousands and thousands of items that

00:02:19.600 we've had to go through over the last couple of days.

00:02:21.800 So get ready to order your Order of Man swagger.

00:02:24.860 Yes. Actually, what I was thinking about, my goal is to have this open on Monday, the store back

00:02:30.480 open, even if it's just kind of a soft open and we don't have everything completely ready.

00:02:36.320 So what day is that? That looks like that's the fourth.

00:02:39.320 So I think on Monday, we're going to have a sale. So guys go check out the store on Monday. Cause I

00:02:46.200 think I'm going to have a sale. In fact, before we get done with our call today, I'll just tell

00:02:50.580 you what the code is. I don't know what it is yet. So let's go through this. Remind me at the end and

00:02:53.900 then we'll talk about what the code is. Okay. Sounds good. And that is the fourth. You are correct.

00:02:57.980 March 4th. Yep. So there'll be a sale in the store on everything and we'll kick this thing off

00:03:04.120 with a bang and keep him busy. You know, what's cool about having Order of Man swag on is every so

00:03:11.100 often you'll get a guy that kind of looks at you kind of sideways. You don't get this because they

00:03:17.480 know who you are. Right. But sometimes when I wear the Order of Man, like hat or shirt or whatever,

00:03:22.500 I get kind of a sideways look like, Oh yeah. And a nod. And I'm like, Oh yeah, he knows,

00:03:27.260 he knows the logo. He knows. That's right. Yeah.

00:03:29.160 I actually still get that a lot. Like I can, I can see when people recognize me, but don't say

00:03:35.400 anything. It's, it's actually really interesting to see. Cause they, they're kind of like staring

00:03:39.400 at you. Like, I think I know that guy, but maybe I don't, or maybe that's him, but maybe it isn't.

00:03:43.120 It's actually a really weird feeling. But I usually, if I see it, I usually just go up and introduce

00:03:47.860 myself. I usually say something like, Hey, do we know each other? And then they'll say something and

00:03:51.700 it works out. I'm the managing director of the Order of Man podcast. That's right. That's right.

00:03:57.300 Well, let's get into the, uh, into the questions, man. Uh, what we're doing is we're answering

00:04:01.700 questions from, I think today exclusively Facebook, because we ran a little bit over on, uh, on

00:04:07.080 questions from last time. So we're just jumping right into the Facebook questions, but we do this

00:04:10.400 on our Patreon account, which is patreon.com slash order of man. Uh, of course we do it in our

00:04:15.260 brotherhood, exclusive brotherhood, the iron council. Uh, but this is just Facebook, which is

00:04:19.560 facebook.com slash groups slash order of man. So if you have questions, jump in that group and then

00:04:25.300 you can ask him there and, uh, and we'll get them answered as best we can. Sounds great. All

00:04:29.580 right, man, let's get into it. All right. Our first question is by Jeremiah Swoltzel. I didn't

00:04:34.720 have the fortune, uh, I didn't have the fortunate, uh, upbringing to grow up with brothers and many

00:04:41.680 close friends. Never really learned how, uh, how as my father didn't have many close friends

00:04:47.280 while I was growing up either. Sorry, this is a little scattered here. I work a lot and mostly

00:04:52.080 by myself or with men that are much older with, uh, older than me. Um, and they're the kind of

00:04:57.660 men I, and they're not the kind of men I'd hang out with after work. Typically I became a Freemason

00:05:02.480 last year and have met a lot of good men who are now I consider brother, but it's not been the

00:05:07.620 easiest to connect in meaningful ways. I hear you talk about building a tribe while I've met men who

00:05:13.580 could be proud where I'd be proud to associate with. Uh, we all have busy lives with work and family

00:05:19.700 to use a Masonic term. Our cable toes are extremely short, meaning our responsibilities keep us away

00:05:26.400 from other things. How do I build a tribe of men that will do hard stuff with me, challenge me when

00:05:32.160 the same, uh, when the same seems to be true with them? Wow. That's a lot. Okay. So very simply,

00:05:38.020 there's been study after study that has suggested that men work best when they're working towards

00:05:44.060 something or against something. So to paint a picture for you, women have been shown to work

00:05:50.620 best when they're face to face, they're interacting, they're face to face, they're talking or discussing

00:05:55.500 or going through an idea and they're working face to face. Men on the other hand are typically

00:06:01.120 shoulder to shoulder, meaning we aren't facing each other and talking about who knows what we're

00:06:06.820 addressing a cause or an issue or an enemy. So the best thing that I've found to build a tribe

00:06:13.180 is to find something common as far as a challenge or adversity or a struggle. Uh, that could be,

00:06:21.060 for example, Brazilian jujitsu, uh, that could be, uh, hiking. It could be hunting, whatever is going

00:06:29.740 to challenge you and test you. And at the same time, challenge and test another man. And then you're

00:06:35.280 bonded in that adversity, right? Like when you go to the gym and you're rolling with other guys in

00:06:40.340 jujitsu, you don't know these guys. And yet there's a deep bond and connection and brotherhood

00:06:45.100 because you're working towards improving yourself. You're working towards becoming a better man. So

00:06:51.860 you've got to find something outside of work, outside of family life to engage in something.

00:06:59.500 That's a challenge, something that's a battle that other men are interested in start working towards

00:07:03.800 that. And then I think you'll start to build up these connections fairly quickly when you do it that

00:07:07.300 way. Ryan, would you agree that sometimes, you know, there's, there's guys that we want to be

00:07:12.280 rubbing shoulders with that we want to, you know, do activities with, but they're, they're in the same

00:07:18.400 struggle. And some of those guys, they're just not open to it. You know what I mean? Like I have some

00:07:22.880 really good friends. I love them and I would love to do more, but they're not on the same path in

00:07:29.080 regards to realizing that's a priority in their life. And so I kind of have to like invite and if

00:07:34.300 they're down, great. If they're not, I move on and I, I find other guys to be doing activities

00:07:39.040 with, like, it's just kind of a unfortunate scenario, but sometimes I think that's the case.

00:07:44.120 Yeah, I think that's right. I think you can place your relationships and this is oversimplifying,

00:07:48.140 I realize, but you can place them in these buckets, right? So let's say you're, you're a friend with a

00:07:53.440 colleague at work, another guy at work, and he's not really interested in what you're interested in or

00:07:57.980 pushing himself or motivating himself above and beyond what he's doing at work. Okay, great. That's,

00:08:01.920 that's a work relationship. And so if you're going to continue to try to beat your head against the

00:08:06.340 wall to get this guy to engage in a different capacity, and yet he's not interested, that's a

00:08:10.320 waste of time. So I found that the friends that I have, some are just frankly, gym buddies. Others

00:08:15.860 are jujitsu buddies. Others are in the iron council and we're engaged that way. Others I could call if I

00:08:21.700 was having a hard time and that individual would be over immediately to help me address that situation

00:08:26.760 or to help me move or whatever it may be. So we have all kinds of different relationships.

00:08:31.100 You don't need to push on a relationship. In fact, the more that you do, the more I found that

00:08:35.520 it's, it's not conducive to a healthy relationship, not on their part and not on your part. So

00:08:40.640 just realize that, yeah, you got some work buddies, you got some gym buddies, and you've got some deep,

00:08:45.520 deep connections and you'll foster that through adversity. I would also say, go to conferences.

00:08:51.700 If there's something that you're interested in, whether it's again, jujitsu or working out or

00:08:56.940 reading and you want to be part of a book club or starting an online business or podcasters,

00:09:02.280 any interest that you may have, there's conferences and events that are tied to those things. If you

00:09:08.060 go to those, you already know that that individual is interested in the same thing you are because

00:09:12.240 that person paid to be there just like you did. So that, that tears down one barrier of entry is

00:09:17.380 going to these conferences. I just got back from one in Atlanta too. Actually, I did two different

00:09:21.900 events while I was out there. And one event, I knew a lot of people there and the other event,

00:09:27.520 I didn't know many, but that event that I didn't know many people, we connected very quickly because

00:09:32.260 we were shooting our bows. We were working out. We broke down some pigs that, that John and Jen

00:09:40.200 Rivette had shot earlier in the week. So like we were doing things and we were rallying around the same

00:09:44.580 type of idea. So we connected very quickly. Cool. Cool. All right. Alec, Alec Meggio,

00:09:52.940 not a question, just a shout out. I just want to say thank you for answering my question a couple

00:09:57.460 weeks back. And my kid is now in counseling. I appreciate you guys. Sweet. That's good. I don't,

00:10:01.940 I don't specifically remember the situation, but I hope things are okay. I hope your, your child is

00:10:07.900 getting the help that they need. So we're glad to help in any capacity we can. Damon Matthews,

00:10:13.440 do you guys have plans in place for your families for emergencies at home? I've recently gone through

00:10:18.380 a couple of scenarios with my family, like a house fire, intruder, medical emergency,

00:10:23.400 loving the podcast. Keep up the great work. I love that. I love that, man. You're,

00:10:27.360 we talk about this all the time, protect, provide, preside. And right now you're talking about being

00:10:31.640 a good leader. A good leader has vision. A good leader can anticipate challenges and obstacles and

00:10:36.540 hurdles that may come up. And if you're a leader inside the walls of your home, because you're a father

00:10:40.100 or potentially even an older brother, or there's some situation where you found yourself in that

00:10:44.640 role, then I feel like you have an obligation to protect yourself and your family. Those you have

00:10:49.180 an obligation for, I would also say to do this at work, but those you have an obligation for,

00:10:53.980 you have a responsibility for anticipating what could potentially go wrong. So yes, we have

00:10:58.780 emergency plans. We have fire plans, earthquake plans, medical situations, emergencies.

00:11:05.280 Even when we have sitters over, there's protocols that we have in place. So yeah, I try to anticipate

00:11:11.920 anything that might possibly come up. And we also drill on these things. And I ask a lot of

00:11:16.360 questions, Hey, if there was a fire and you were down here in the basement working on inventory, for

00:11:20.680 example, what would you do? And hopefully my son comes up with the right, right answer. But if he

00:11:26.280 doesn't, that's okay too, because that's a learning opportunity. So we're constantly talking about

00:11:30.340 these, asking questions about these types of things, drilling these things and having those plans in

00:11:34.720 place is critical. I think the drills are critical, right? We mentioned this last week,

00:11:39.980 I believe we had some trimmers up here in Salt Lake and it caused me to realize like, wait a second,

00:11:45.080 all our, all our gear is downstairs in the basement in the corner, right? Right. And our house is made

00:11:50.840 out of brick, which brick homes actually do not do better in earthquakes than like just wood. So I

00:11:57.520 thought, you know what, that's too far away. Right. And so we're now making an adjustment because of

00:12:02.440 that because we're like, Hey, you know, let's get this stuff in the garage where it's a little bit

00:12:06.140 more accessible from the outside in the event that we have to get outside the home. So I think those

00:12:11.140 drills are critical because otherwise, you know, you have these great plans and then you really don't

00:12:15.240 think them through. So, well, and it's not even a, I mean, yes, that's part of it thinking it through,

00:12:19.420 but when you're, when you're planning in a perfect situation, it's very hard to identify what could

00:12:26.160 potentially go wrong. In addition to that, you have the chaos and the emotional side of things

00:12:32.920 that come into play, you know, being in a big earthquake and having to find those packs is a

00:12:39.120 lot different than, Hey, we're going to just talk about where these packs are, right? So as close to

00:12:45.540 real life you can get as possible, the better. And that's why I go back to jujitsu again. And I think

00:12:50.220 it's such a great metaphor for life is I hear so many guys who will say, Oh, if ever I ever got in a

00:12:55.760 fight, I'd kick his ass. And it's like, really? What makes you think that? Oh, I just, I know I

00:13:00.320 watched Rocky. So I know how to box. It's like, okay, well, it's a little bit different when you

00:13:05.820 actually find yourself in the, in the encounter. And if you've never been in a situation where

00:13:10.160 somebody is trying to hurt you, then you won't know how to react. We want to habitualize these

00:13:15.820 patterns and these habits so that when we are faced with the actual emotional experience, we fall back

00:13:22.760 onto the habits, not what we think we might do. I can't remember who said it, but, uh, it's, it's a

00:13:29.100 quote, uh, from a, from an ancient philosopher. He says, we don't, uh, rise to the level of our

00:13:33.720 expectations. We fall to the level of our training. And that's exactly what we're talking about here.

00:13:38.960 Cool. Isaac Dubios, what type of gun safety do you have?

00:13:44.700 Um, I've got a Yukon gold safe. I mean, it's just a pretty standard safe. There's there,

00:13:53.780 I need to get a bigger safe cause I'm outgrowing this thing, but, um, yeah, it's a Browning Yukon

00:13:59.580 gold safe. Like, I don't know what other details you want on it. He probably wants the combos

00:14:03.820 probably what he wants. Um, yeah, I need to get a bigger safe. So if you have any suggestions or

00:14:08.940 recommendations, uh, Liberty safes is one I've looked at. There's a few others, but yeah,

00:14:12.840 the one I have now is just a Browning Yukon gold safe. It's probably, I'm looking at it right now.

00:14:17.000 It's probably, I don't know, five feet tall by three feet wide by three feet deep. I would say

00:14:23.080 somewhere in there. Cool. Yeah. All right. Do you have a safe at home? Um, I don't, um,

00:14:30.020 I actually have like a, like a hard case that locks. Oh yeah. Right. Yeah. For, and I just,

00:14:36.260 I just have a rifle, a couple of rifles and a handgun. So does it lock with like a, like a dial or a key

00:14:41.900 or like biometrics? No, just the key. Yeah. There's a couple of safes I had for my handguns

00:14:48.200 that were like a biometric safe where it was your fingerprint. It was pretty cool, but I noticed it

00:14:54.020 was like 70% chance it would open. And I'm like, I need a hundred percent chance it'll open when I

00:14:59.580 need it. So I, there's some other cool things I've seen. One is it's a, basically a locking mechanism

00:15:07.100 that goes around the trigger housing of your firearm. Yep. And I think it's biometric as well.

00:15:11.280 So I think it's fingerprints as well. Um, so your gun is actually not necessarily concealed,

00:15:15.800 but the firing mechanism is, so that one actually looks pretty interesting. I'm going to look into

00:15:20.400 that and check that out and I'll let you know how it goes. Have you seen those pictures that have the,

00:15:26.820 the magnet behind the photo and then you push it or something? And yeah, it's a really powerful

00:15:32.900 magnet. So it's like so powerful that like a kid wouldn't be able to take it off.

00:15:37.280 Yeah. Oh, I have seen, I've seen one where there's a magnet and it requires another magnet to open it

00:15:44.700 up. So you can hide that other magnet somewhere and like put it over it. And then it like unlocks

00:15:49.060 that mechanism or whatever it is. And then you can open it right up. There's some interesting stuff

00:15:52.580 out there. Just be careful. Just be safe with your stuff. Yeah. And also I would say, I got to add this

00:15:58.440 as well, because a lot of people think, Oh, you just lock up your firearms. So your kids don't get

00:16:01.960 them. Yes. That's a piece of the puzzle. I also want to say, train your children on

00:16:07.660 the safety rules and precautions of a firearm. Curiosity killed the cat. So, right. So if you

00:16:14.540 just say, Hey, there's some cool stuff in this safe and you don't let your kids experience it,

00:16:18.080 see it, taste it, touch it, feel it. They're going to be very, very curious. And you don't want them to

00:16:23.180 be curious about firearms. You want them to understand what they do. You want them to be familiar with it.

00:16:27.480 You want them to hear it, to see the impact and realize that these are deadly tools.

00:16:32.880 They're not something to be played with. And if you hide that from them in an attempt to keep them

00:16:37.360 safe, you're actually hurting them. The analogy I use is a swimming pool. Like we, we would never

00:16:42.840 keep our kids necessarily away from a swimming pool. We, we teach them to swim, right? That way,

00:16:49.840 if they ever come into contact with a swimming pool and heaven forbid, they fall in unexpectedly,

00:16:54.480 they know how to swim to the side and get themselves out of it. It's the same thing with

00:16:58.080 firearms. It's like, you don't need to keep your kids away from firearms. You need to expose them

00:17:02.140 in controlled environments and help them understand how to use them effectively and safely.

00:17:08.480 Cool. Yep. All right. Jeremiah Daniel Hethko going through a divorce, ending up with split custody

00:17:15.960 of my son. The problem is he has severe allergies and eczema. He needs a special oil put on him every

00:17:22.740 night and certain cream on his butt every night. My ex does not do this effectively. It affects my

00:17:28.960 son. My question is, we are all getting along right now. Do you think I should pursue a full

00:17:34.880 custody battle and try to get him full time or just keep it split and hope she gets better?

00:17:40.960 I don't think you should do either. I mean, I don't know the entire situation, but hope is not a

00:17:45.960 strategy. I think you need to continue to talk with your ex about this and continue to talk about the

00:17:51.620 importance of it. But I think if you jump the gun and you're like, I'm just going full tilt,

00:17:56.000 going to get custody of my child, you're going to turn this into a battle that you may not be

00:18:00.940 interested turning it into. And you're not going to win. You're not going to win on cream not being

00:18:07.580 put on your kid. I mean, well, yes. I mean, the courts are stacked against men in these situations.

00:18:12.780 So you could potentially be opening a can of worms where it's like, oh, really? Okay. Well,

00:18:17.200 I'll fight for full custody. And then what happens if she wins full custody? So I'm not sure. I mean,

00:18:24.620 I don't know the entire story, but based on what you're telling me, I'm not sure that this is a

00:18:28.520 battle that you really want to get into right now, unless the child is in extreme danger where he

00:18:34.400 could potentially die or in a situation where there's drug abuse or physical or sexual abuse

00:18:39.060 or something like that. And I'm not suggesting there is, but those are situations where I would fight

00:18:43.120 in this. I don't know if that's a battle that I would, that I would start. I think you just need

00:18:49.080 to keep the lines of communication open, keep having those conversations, keep talking about

00:18:52.800 why it's important. Maybe even, I don't know how old the child is, but at some point the child's

00:18:57.480 going to be able to do this themselves and not need mom or dad to help. So that might be a good

00:19:02.880 thing too, depending on, on his or her age. So there's a lot of things. I just, I just don't

00:19:07.700 think I would get into the battle over this based on this limited piece of the picture that I'm

00:19:11.880 seeing. Yeah. You're saying, I mean, if he's old enough, train him up, right? Right. Like,

00:19:15.840 I mean, I, again, I mean, if the kid's two or three, yeah, it's going to be a challenge. If

00:19:19.000 kid's nine, it's like, you can wipe your own butt and put cream on your chest yourself. Right. So

00:19:23.740 yeah. Yeah. Tough man. Regardless, Jeremiah, it is tough. Just keep the lines of communication open.

00:19:30.360 Keep, keep engaged that way. Keep amicable. Keep talking about the importance, but I don't know

00:19:36.420 if I'd get into a battle over that. It could go very, very wrong. Not in your favor.

00:19:39.500 All right. Next question. Ikenta Chimila. I'm 22 and money hungry. What books do you,

00:19:48.200 do you suggest I read on how to build my financial life?

00:19:52.820 22 years old. Thinking Grow Rich is a really good book. Rich Dad, Poor Dad is a really good book.

00:20:00.000 Dave Ramsey's got some good stuff on debt elimination. Although I don't think there's a

00:20:04.160 whole lot there with, with wealth building. There's a ton of podcasts. If you just type in

00:20:08.780 financial planning or investment or wealth, you can find a ton of information on the financial

00:20:13.960 planning side and how to build up wealth. Gosh, I don't know really a Grant Cardone has some amazing

00:20:20.640 stuff. I really like Grant Cardone stuff on how to build wealth and how to look at money. He's got

00:20:25.860 all kinds of books. He's got all kinds of podcasts and video. I mean, the guy's everywhere. He's got so

00:20:31.020 much information out there. I would lean towards Grant Cardone. If you're in that situation,

00:20:34.680 I truly would. Cool. Talking about podcasts, did we reach our 10 mil?

00:20:41.440 No, we're like 150,000 away or so. So we won't, we probably won't hit it this month. I mean,

00:20:49.060 very close this month, but it'll be early, early next month and we'll hit that 10 million mark.

00:20:54.220 Awesome. Yeah, man. Exciting times. I know. Pretty crazy. Crazy, crazy stuff. In fact, just,

00:20:59.540 I think it was yesterday or the day before I got a Facebook alert that said, Hey, we care about your

00:21:05.240 memories or whatever. Here's what was happening four years ago. And it was my very first post on

00:21:10.720 my personal Facebook page about order of man. And it said something like, Hey, I'm going to start a

00:21:15.920 lifestyle brand centered around these five things for men. Like if you're interested, go check out

00:21:20.100 order of man, Facebook page. It was really, really cool to take that trip down memory lane and look at

00:21:24.780 what was happening and what I was saying four years ago. It was, it's crazy, man. So crazy.

00:21:29.780 Yeah. I read that actually. I was like, that's crazy. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Jacob

00:21:36.120 malarkey. I grew up in a fatherless home and never had a father figure to show and teach me the simple

00:21:41.800 things a man should know, such as car maintenance, handiwork, hunting, and et cetera. What would y'all

00:21:47.700 recommend to begin to understand these aspects of being a man? Just pick something you want to do and

00:21:53.300 YouTube it. Yeah. I mean, it truly is that easy. Cause I grew up without a father figure. Um, I had some

00:21:58.740 good coaches in my life. I had some good male friends in my life and I just, you just learn,

00:22:03.900 man. You just learn. Like I never knew how to really like change a tire or change the oil in

00:22:07.800 my car or how to work with a saw or how to work with wood or how to do basic electrical around

00:22:12.640 the house. But the barrier to entry and learning these things is so low. Like just type it in

00:22:17.140 YouTube. I want to learn how to change the oil in my car, YouTube specifically for your car.

00:22:22.060 You'll know how to do it in 15 minutes. I want to know what kind of saws there are. Good. Go check

00:22:26.800 that out. I want to do some blacksmithing. Okay. Jump on there and type in blacksmithing for

00:22:31.960 beginners, whatever it is. It's there at your fingertips. I think we have to be very, very

00:22:36.920 careful of using the excuse. And I hear a lot of guys do this and I've done it too of saying,

00:22:43.140 well, I didn't have a dad, so I don't know how to do that. Well, you're an adult now. And at some

00:22:47.400 point in your life, your excuses expire. So I'm not saying you're making excuses. I'm just saying,

00:22:52.060 don't rely on that as a reason for why you didn't learn these things. You are an adult. Now you have

00:22:56.900 an opportunity to figure these things out. Look on YouTube, go to conferences, follow podcasts,

00:23:01.760 follow blogs, the information's out there. If you exert yourself to even the slightest degree,

00:23:06.940 you'll find it. You'll be good. Get after it. Casey Dixon, is it better to work at a job that

00:23:13.780 you aren't happy, but it pays the bills and have three or four days a week. So you can help with the

00:23:19.260 kids or work five days a week that will still pay the bills, but you wouldn't be home as much to help

00:23:24.740 with kids and other commitments. It's better to find somewhere in between. Like you can have the

00:23:30.160 best of both worlds. This is a false, a false choice here. Yeah. What you're saying is that

00:23:35.140 you're saying I can either, you know, be satisfied and have a lot of time with my family and kind of be

00:23:39.700 somewhat satisfied and work. I don't really enjoy it. Or I can be more satisfied and make more money

00:23:43.960 and then not have so much time with the kids. That doesn't have to be the only two choices.

00:23:49.560 You know, I look at my business, for example, and Kip, you're probably very much the same way as

00:23:52.520 I don't have to work all every day, all hours of the day. I can be very lenient in how I schedule my

00:24:01.500 time specifically when there's sporting events or activities that come up and I make very good money.

00:24:06.760 So prime example is like, I make great money. I make great income. I'm very, very satisfied and

00:24:11.160 fulfilled in the business. And I am very, very aware of and engaged with my kids. So it's best to

00:24:17.760 find both, but here's what I would suggest because it's easy to say that, but it takes time to get to

00:24:23.440 that point. So what I would suggest is an exercise in consciousness. And what I would tell you to do

00:24:29.620 is to fast forward 20 or 30 years in your mind, project yourself out that time, looking back,

00:24:36.980 what decision will you be happy that you made? That is one of the most powerful exercises that

00:24:43.980 you can do. And one of the things that makes us uniquely human is we can put ourselves in different

00:24:48.960 locations in different times intentionally to give us a new perspective we haven't considered.

00:24:54.200 So again, fast forward 20 or 30 years, look back, which decision will you be happy that you made?

00:25:00.120 And I think that'll start leading you towards the right direction.

00:25:02.440 Totally. Well, and part of what Casey might be asking too is, you know, I don't know,

00:25:07.980 every, every guy's different, right? But if I had four days a week helping with the kids to help with

00:25:14.580 the kids, like maybe you're not feeling like you're achieving, right? So it's, it's, it's not necessarily

00:25:22.640 like maybe those five days a week is not a punishment and maybe that's what you're looking for. Like,

00:25:27.580 hey, I want to achieve into my career more and accomplish something a little bit more than,

00:25:33.480 you know what I mean? Yeah. I understand what you're saying. Um, well, we can, first of all,

00:25:38.940 a couple of things, like we can't make that decision. We can't tell you what's best. That's

00:25:42.100 one of the things we have to be aware of. It's like, we can't say, oh, you should do this. Like,

00:25:45.560 that's entirely up to you. The other thing is I, I firmly believe that if a man's soul

00:25:51.560 purpose and meaning in life is wrapped around his wife and his children, that he's missing a

00:25:58.320 whole dimension that could bring a lot of joy, satisfaction, fulfillment, progress, mastery into

00:26:04.540 his life. So I find value in working. Even if I didn't have to, I would probably still work in

00:26:12.100 some capacity because there's value to me in doing something that's meaningful. So it's very easy to

00:26:18.640 say, well, I just want to be with my family and my wife and my kids all day. And that's noble.

00:26:22.780 And, and I say that at times, but I also have a desire to be working and to use my hands and use

00:26:29.420 my mind and use my back outside of the capacity of what I'm doing at home. Yeah. That balance is

00:26:34.980 critical for me as well. I mean, I think I need both of those things for sure.

00:26:39.040 I don't even think it's, well, I don't, it's not a think thing. It's like we, we as men need both.

00:26:45.400 We need to be, this is one of the biggest problems that men fall into is that when they get engaged

00:26:50.840 and they get girlfriends and they get married and they start having kids, one of the first

00:26:54.580 things to go is, well, two things it's, it's their hobbies and their buddies. And then what they do

00:27:01.220 is they, and they're saying it nobly, like, well, I can't go do that because I care about my family

00:27:05.680 too much. I hear that even when I go work out, people will say, well, I'd love to work out, but I

00:27:09.760 just, I care about my family. I just want to be for there for them when they're go to school,

00:27:13.540 when they go to school or whatever. And it's like, do you really believe that your kids like

00:27:17.400 would be okay with you using them as an excuse, not to, not to excel in certain areas of your life?

00:27:24.800 It's, it's crazy stuff. These are called noble obstacles and they're very, very deceiving because

00:27:29.660 they're noble. They sound good. They sound right. You're, Oh, you're doing the right thing.

00:27:34.320 But at the same time, if you're not taking care of yourself, it's just a matter of time before you

00:27:38.380 burn yourself out. You find yourself in a very, very, uh, difficult relationship with your, with

00:27:44.380 your spouse and potentially lead to some catastrophic events like separations, divorces, separation from

00:27:50.540 children. And I actually ran into that for a lot of the same reasons I'm talking about.

00:27:55.260 Yeah. Hmm. Okay. Copy. Um, David Palma, is it ever okay to take a detour in your career in order

00:28:04.600 to accomplish your ultimate career goals? What if I said, no, doesn't that sound absurd?

00:28:13.640 Totally. Right. Like if I said, no, it's never okay to, to take a break from your,

00:28:19.080 from your work to go chase something that's meaningful and significant to you. Never would

00:28:23.020 you do that? That sounds absurd. So the answer is yes, it's okay to do that. In fact, it's encouraged

00:28:30.080 depending on your situation too, right? Like you got to consider that if you're married and you've

00:28:34.580 got five kids at home and bills up to your eyeballs and everything. Okay. Maybe now is

00:28:39.060 not the time to do it. Maybe you have to create a plan in order to get there. But if you're

00:28:42.320 20 years old and you're working at some entry level job and you don't enjoy it and you have

00:28:49.360 no kids or liabilities or, or anything like that, like, yeah, I think that's probably a

00:28:54.440 pretty good time to do that. So assess where you are in your life. But of course you should

00:29:00.180 do that. Like, what if you didn't do that? Play that out for a minute. What if you didn't

00:29:04.780 pursue something that you were engaged in? What would that actually look like? 30 years,

00:29:09.080 40 years where you are, a medial retirement, if at, if at all a mediocre life, maybe, you

00:29:16.460 know, some vacations here or there and you could create something pretty decent, but not your

00:29:21.580 potential, man. Definitely not your potential.

00:29:23.660 Yeah. And you always say this, Ryan, like not every decision's, you know, made in a vacuum and

00:29:29.920 we have a tendency to, Oh, it's, it's, it's white or it's black. It's a, or it's B. No,

00:29:36.840 sometimes it's C and maybe it's gray and maybe it's a time and in season and it's, you know,

00:29:41.940 a back and forth. Like, I, I don't know. I think when we really give some thought to the things that

00:29:47.880 we want to accomplish a lot of the time, we can accomplish them without major sacrifices. We,

00:29:54.600 we just have to be clever in regards to how we implement them and go after them.

00:29:58.780 Yeah. That's a great point. I mean, that's what I did here with order of man, you know,

00:30:01.220 I was working in the mornings, I was working in the evenings, but I didn't give up my responsibilities

00:30:05.300 in my current job. I didn't forsake my family at, you know, this, this, what I was doing here

00:30:09.260 didn't come at the expense of my time with them. Uh, I had a lot of busy mornings, a lot of early

00:30:13.720 mornings, a lot of late nights. Um, but you know, you make it work. And so you create a plan. This

00:30:18.780 is, this is like the battle plan that we use. You create a plan and you work it and you review it and

00:30:25.720 then you do it again and you do it again and you do it again. And I think you'll be able to create

00:30:29.400 something meaningful and significant for yourself. Yeah. Justin buys, I have three sons. My oldest is

00:30:36.400 now 15. I remember at his age having ambition for the future, for working and doing things that I was

00:30:42.800 interested in. He doesn't seem to have any, there are things he is good at, but he doesn't enjoy.

00:30:48.940 He did very well in football. He's great in band, but he doesn't like doing them. Do you have any

00:30:54.760 advice on how I should guide him without taking over for him? I just worry because I feel like he

00:31:00.100 has to start thinking about the future, whether it be college or entering the workforce.

00:31:06.020 So this is tough because my oldest son is a little bit like this. Um, he, he's so intelligent.

00:31:11.200 He's so tender hearted. I mean, he's just a great kid, but he doesn't quite have the fire that I had

00:31:17.360 when I was his age. And I'm like, what is wrong? Not wrong with him. Just what's wrong? Like, why

00:31:21.740 doesn't he have this stuff? And the more that I think about this question, the more that I interpret

00:31:27.080 his actions and behaviors and thought process, the more I realized that he does, it's just manifested

00:31:33.760 different. It doesn't look like, like I wanted to destroy like anything in my way. I just wanted to like

00:31:39.920 break or tear apart. You know, I just wanted to kill everything in my way. Right. And my second

00:31:46.420 son is a lot like that. So that's, I can see, see, see myself in him a little bit, but with my oldest,

00:31:51.580 it's hard, but that doesn't mean that he isn't engaged in things. There's certain things like

00:31:55.520 animals. Oh my gosh. He loves animals. He likes how they move. He likes to look at their muscles.

00:32:02.660 He would dissect them until, you know, all night long, like, cause he wants to know about their

00:32:07.940 organs and how it works. Like he's so fascinated by that. And it's my job as a father to help him

00:32:13.560 explore that. So he may not be interested in the same things as you and may not even show it in the

00:32:18.880 same way that you show it. But I bet if you just really took some time to consider what your son

00:32:24.020 is interested in, you would see the light come on a little bit. Another thing that my, my oldest son

00:32:29.280 does is at night, he likes to lie in bed and read before he goes to bed. And he reads these little,

00:32:34.660 he reads books sometimes, but a lot of times he's reading these like factoid books where there's

00:32:39.600 like weird and interesting facts and he loves it. You know, he's like, dad, did you know an ant

00:32:44.760 farts out of its butt or whatever? You know, I'm just making that up, but like random facts. Right.

00:32:49.100 And I'm like, well, I didn't know that, but I encourage that. And I ask him questions about it.

00:32:53.240 And when they were going on a hike, I'm like, well, do you know anything about rocks? And what did you

00:32:56.540 learn about rocks or what's the highest mountain? Cause he would know that because he studies this stuff.

00:33:00.400 So it really fostered that. My second son, the other day, he, I think I told a lot of you guys

00:33:05.860 this. He, he came upstairs or downstairs, wherever he was. And he says, Hey dad, can I read you a poem

00:33:12.640 that I wrote? And I said, well, yeah, sure. Kind of expecting to get a laugh a little bit. And if you

00:33:19.360 give me one second, I'm actually going to grab it and read what he wrote. Okay. So just give me one

00:33:23.860 second. I feel like I should say something while Ryan's away from the mic. Okay. Let me put my earbuds

00:33:36.820 back on here. All right. I think we're good. So here's what he wrote. So he titled it, the poem

00:33:42.160 called the moving statue. And here it is. I think I'm right. I think I'm wrong. I didn't listen to the

00:33:48.480 statue rules. So I'll go with the flow, go slow as an alpaca. And I was like, Whoa, that's really

00:33:56.040 interesting. Tell me what that means. And so he told me, he says, I think that when I follow the

00:34:00.540 rules that people tell me, I think I'm right that I should do that, but it doesn't feel right because

00:34:04.320 I want to be different and unique. And I have different thoughts than a lot of people. So I also

00:34:07.700 think I'm wrong. And I said, okay, well tell me about the statue rules. And he said, the statue rules

00:34:13.580 are the rules that people enact that make everybody the same. And he doesn't want to be

00:34:18.660 frozen like everybody else, like a slap, like a statue. So instead of following the quote unquote

00:34:23.680 statue rules, he's going to go with the flow, go slow as an alpaca. I said, well, why an alpaca?

00:34:29.780 And he said, because they're weird and they don't care what anybody else thinks.

00:34:34.240 And I thought, dude, this, this kid's eight. I'm like, look, man, when I was eight, I was thinking

00:34:39.480 about matchbox cars, micro machines, GI Joe's and baseball cards. Like that's it. I wasn't thinking

00:34:46.380 about this kind of stuff. So I realized that he's got some interesting thoughts, like really deep and

00:34:53.980 interesting thoughts. So what I did, and the reason I had to just take a break there for a second

00:34:57.920 is because I had to run over to, uh, to, to the printer because I had these printed on. So like nice

00:35:05.180 poster board, 11 by 17, I had this poster printed or the, excuse me, the poem printed with the,

00:35:11.740 the picture of the alpaca that he drew. And I'm going to have it framed. I got one for me for down

00:35:16.160 here in my office and then one for him up there. Now, the reason I bring this up is because I want

00:35:20.640 to foster this. I don't want to not acknowledge it. I don't want to not recognize something special

00:35:28.740 inside of him. And so I really go out of my way to foster it. Hey, you wrote this amazing,

00:35:35.960 thoughtful, deep poem. Let's, let's recognize this. Let's frame it and put it on the wall and

00:35:41.560 tell you how proud we are of you because that's encouraging that type of behavior. So long story

00:35:47.380 short, encourage the things that he's interested in, find ways to foster that inside of your children

00:35:54.520 and understand that they just, it may not be that they're not motivated. It just might be that they

00:35:59.960 haven't found it yet or they manifest it differently than you would. That's great.

00:36:06.760 All right. Next question. I lost my spot. Uh, Michael Pace Daggle. How do you make the entrepreneurial

00:36:15.460 leap and what suggestions do you have to make the process better? Um, you just do it. It's not elite.

00:36:23.400 Well, let me see this. It's not a leap. That's what you have to be careful of because what a lot

00:36:27.800 of these quote unquote gurus will tell you to do is they'll say, Oh, just burn the bridges and quit

00:36:31.700 your job. And it's like, well, tell me how you did it. And they're like, Oh, well, my situation was

00:36:34.780 different. You know, I, I was able to do this on the side and it's like, okay, so you want me to leap

00:36:39.040 and burn the bridges, but you didn't do that. So you got to be very, very careful of these,

00:36:43.460 these motivational gurus. I'm so burnt out on these guys because they're so full of crap.

00:36:48.440 I would say, do it calculated. All right. You don't need to be reckless in your decision to do this.

00:36:53.380 Prime example, order of man. I just told you I was working early mornings and late nights,

00:36:58.520 making everything work. And I gradually started doing more and more and more and making a little

00:37:03.800 money and making a little more money and a little more money until even just about six months ago,

00:37:08.740 I sold my financial planning practice and I've been doing this for four years.

00:37:12.280 So it can be gradual. It can be done systematically without being reckless and without burning bridges.

00:37:18.420 And I think that's the better approach. And I would be willing to bet that's the approach

00:37:21.820 that most people went now. Yeah, there's going to be some guys out there who just went balls to the

00:37:27.100 wall, went all in from the get go and it worked. But the overwhelming majority of those entrepreneurs

00:37:31.440 that I found is because they've been doing it for a very long time and they gradually got into it or

00:37:37.320 they had some help along the way. And that's what I've seen. So what I would suggest is that if you

00:37:42.100 have an idea or a thought, or you want to start something that you put in those early mornings,

00:37:46.360 you work straight through lunch, no lunches, just bring a packed lunch, wherever you're working,

00:37:51.040 you got an hour during lunch, let's say, or 45 minutes where you can work, maybe work an hour

00:37:55.480 or two hours later at night and just make the thing work, make it happen. Less sleep, less exercise,

00:38:02.440 less whatever to get this thing done because the season you're in right now requires you to be

00:38:06.900 committed to being an entrepreneur and starting a business and growing a business. And it doesn't have

00:38:11.840 to be that way indefinitely, but it's going to take that jumpstart. And it did for me and

00:38:15.380 it's paid off. And for most startups, they do an MVP, a minimal viable product.

00:38:21.800 Right. And sometimes you go all in to try out a product. Are you crazy? Yeah. Yeah. You know what

00:38:29.740 I mean? Like try it out, see if there's a market, see if there's a need, like, and sometimes you can

00:38:35.040 accomplish that without like burning the bridges, right. And jumping all the way in. Yeah, you should

00:38:40.960 do it that way. I mean, even as I was going through this inventory, I've got thousands and

00:38:45.240 thousands and thousands of dollars worth of inventory in my, in my, uh, in our basement

00:38:49.680 down here. Like I didn't start that way. I made a decal, right? I made a T. No, the first thing I did

00:38:56.340 was I made a t-shirt and I bought 20 t-shirts. So it cost me a couple hundred bucks, maybe a little

00:39:01.840 less. And that's where I started. I didn't start with thousands upon thousands of dollars of

00:39:06.660 inventory. I started with $150 of inventory and I sold that. I'm like, Oh, okay. Well, what else can we do?

00:39:12.140 Let's, let's do a hat. Let's do a decal. Let's do a beanie. Let's do a jacket. Let's do a battle

00:39:16.260 planner. Let's do whatever. But I gradually grew into it. I think we have a very real problem in

00:39:23.320 that we see other people's successes. And we think that it just happened overnight that if you just

00:39:28.920 had the formula or the code or the secret or the key that somehow somebody could start a podcast and

00:39:36.260 it could be close to 10 million downloads overnight, like order of man is now it's like we, it's been

00:39:42.640 four years. I mean, we're 400 plus episodes into this. That doesn't happen overnight. You build it

00:39:50.000 gradually. And over time you look back and realize, wow, we've come a long way. Yeah. And there's always

00:39:55.860 some creative ways, always creative ways. I had a great conversation with a guy in the iron council.

00:40:00.340 He, he does something similar, wanted to do some business consulting and it consulting on the side.

00:40:06.260 And he's like, Hey, how did you get started? Cause that's how I started my company originally.

00:40:10.200 Yeah. And I told him, I'm like, Hey, just go to headhunters, let them sell you, let them find the

00:40:15.780 contracts, but only be open to contracts that are corp to corp contracts. So you can do it underneath

00:40:21.260 your company name. You get a brand going, you get a reputation, you get some experience backing,

00:40:26.560 write some testimonials. Then you start a little sales and marketing on your own. But in the

00:40:31.700 meanwhile, have headhunters sell you and let them introduce you into the marketplace. There's a lot

00:40:37.520 of different ways and angles that we can kind of, uh, kick off businesses or our services or whatever.

00:40:42.740 Right. So be creative for sure. Awesome. What else? All right. We're cooking through these today. I feel

00:40:48.980 like I know. And I keep losing my spot. I feel like my energy's down a little. I don't know if I'm

00:40:53.660 dude, I had a rough night last night. I don't know what, yeah. Well, we have this inventory and

00:40:58.080 I get a little bit of, uh, Oh, I just get like stressed out. And I'm, I'm really particular about

00:41:03.900 the way things are done. And if there's something to be done in front of me, I'm like, Oh, I got to do

00:41:07.660 this. And I stayed up late last night going through this inventory. My son went to bed cause we were

00:41:12.700 doing it together and he went to bed and I'm like, well, I can still go through this. And then I

00:41:15.840 finally got down into bed and I'm, I'm just like, my whole, my wheels are spinning. I'm like, well,

00:41:19.660 if we do this and how can we sell more and what else do I need? And I'm going through like all

00:41:23.780 this stuff in my mind and I couldn't sleep as brutal. I will tell you just to, just a tip

00:41:28.200 that I have used in the past that didn't work last night, but it has in the past is when I have these

00:41:33.380 types of things where like I've got my, my wheels are turning is I have a journal of field notes right

00:41:38.640 by my bed in the nightstand. And I just go write it down, just write it down. It's like brain dump.

00:41:44.400 And it just frees up that mental capacity to go to sleep. So it didn't work last night,

00:41:48.960 but it usually works. Um, so I apologize if my energy's down a little bit, that's where I'm at.

00:41:54.540 That's funny. I do the same exact thing. Cause I have all these ideas. I'm like, Oh,

00:41:58.400 I need to do this tomorrow or we should do this. And, and you just keep thinking about them unless

00:42:02.500 you write them down. Yeah. And it's, it's good. Like it's, it's, it's kind of a catch 22 because

00:42:07.480 it's good. Your mind's thinking and you're, you're being creative and you've got new ideas and

00:42:12.680 it's all good stuff, but there's a time and a place. And before you go to bed is not the time

00:42:17.740 and place. And yet sometimes it just happens. So having that field notes has really been helpful.

00:42:21.760 Hey, what is the t-shirts? The first t-shirts? Is that the gray, the orange on gray?

00:42:26.980 They, I don't even have them anymore. They're, um, we had, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The orange ones,

00:42:31.760 like the bright orange ones with the small logo. And I think on the back, it said vertically,

00:42:35.340 it said the brotherhood. Yeah. Yeah. Back in the middle. Well, okay. So actually batch one.

00:42:40.580 No, now that I say that there was a shirt before it, it was, it was one of those like

00:42:45.360 Gildan sheep, Gildan shirts. And the logo was huge and it actually didn't end up turning

00:42:50.080 out the same color that we use. It was like this yellowish color. And I see, like, I have

00:42:55.220 a couple of friends here in town that still have one and they wear it occasionally. I'm

00:42:58.640 like, Oh man, go burn that thing. Uh, but yeah, that, that, I think I got like 20 of those

00:43:04.100 and they were ugly and the shirts didn't fit right. And then the second batch was the orange,

00:43:09.140 the brotherhood ones. And those ones did really well. And now we have, I don't know,

00:43:12.200 a dozen different iterations. The ones, maybe I'll sell one on eBay a hundred bucks.

00:43:19.700 You should, man. A hundred bucks on eBay. I don't think you'd sell it, but you could try

00:43:23.780 with my sweat marks in it. That's Oh, that, that would definitely sell that. If you,

00:43:30.020 why didn't you say that, man? I don't know. I thought it was disgusting,

00:43:34.040 but that goes with the laminated beard hair for book for bookmarks. Have I told you about that?

00:43:38.340 That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we were suggesting that you should do that with, uh,

00:43:42.660 you know, special orders of your book includes, uh, beard bookmarks. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Will

00:43:48.800 Luna, how do you stay focused on your health slash workout goals with such a busy schedule?

00:43:56.160 You just do it. Like what is a, what does a busy schedule have to do with it?

00:44:01.100 Yeah. Like make it, make it, I'm not, I'm look, I'm not trying to, it was a will. I'm not trying

00:44:06.620 to beat them up. I'm just saying like, yeah, and life's busy. So work your schedule. Don't let it

00:44:13.320 work. You, you know, wake up a little earlier, go to bed a little earlier. Maybe, maybe you have to

00:44:17.860 work out in the middle of the day. Maybe you only, maybe you can't go to the gym because you're so

00:44:21.560 busy. And so you just do some body movements around the house or you go for a walk with your family.

00:44:26.080 There there's ways to do it. And people say, well, how do I eat when I'm traveling? Cause I'm so busy

00:44:31.020 traveling. It's like, dude, you can go anywhere and get a salad or get a, you know, chicken breast

00:44:35.820 and not get a soda. Just get some water with lemon in it. Like it just takes a little intentionality

00:44:40.920 being a little bit deliberate, planning out your day, planning out your schedule, sneaking in where

00:44:45.960 you can and being relentlessly and ruthlessly committed to what you're doing. Everybody's busy.

00:44:51.180 Those guys that you see and you're like, they have incredible physiques. Yeah. Some of them,

00:44:55.080 that's all they do. Okay. But a lot of them, I would say the overwhelming majority of them

00:45:00.000 have jobs, have families, have kids, have extracurricular activities. And yet they find

00:45:07.880 a way to make it work because they've placed emphasis and priority on that thing. So do that

00:45:12.520 thing. I remember, I think it was a meme or maybe it was a decal on a window that said

00:45:18.100 someone busier than you is running right now. Yes. Yeah. And I love that because it's true.

00:45:24.380 They just make it a priority. That's exactly right. It's just a priority. And yeah, you may

00:45:30.100 not have an hour every day. Okay. Well, do you have a half an hour or do you have 15 minutes in

00:45:34.340 the morning and then maybe 15 minutes a night after the kids go to bed? Yes. Okay. We'll do that

00:45:38.680 because that's better than nothing. Oh, but, and some people say, oh, but I can't get like the

00:45:42.780 workout of the gym I want. Yeah, I know. Sometimes it's not going to be ideal, but like, so what?

00:45:47.520 Do what you can. Totally. Well, and it's funny. Um, I work, I have a trainer on Thursdays. It,

00:45:54.680 it only takes him about 30 minutes to kill me. Yeah. You don't need you. The only reason you

00:46:00.260 would need an hour is if I could see two situations. The only reason you need like an

00:46:05.640 excessive amount of time, an hour, two, three hours is because you're training for something

00:46:09.080 specific. Maybe there's like a bodybuilding competition or you're working on a specific

00:46:13.020 objective, or you're taking a lot of time between reps, dinking around on social media,

00:46:17.800 taking pictures of yourself in the mirror about how big and cool you are. It's like, dude,

00:46:21.680 you can take 30 minutes and kick your ass and get yourself out of there and get back to work.

00:46:26.580 So I got one quick cat tactic for will. Uh, and for those that say, uh, well, I'm still too busy,

00:46:33.140 right? I don't have 30 minutes. So for a solid week or two, take an Excel spreadsheet or a piece of

00:46:38.680 paper, whatever, and track your entire day in 15 minute increments and log your time and see where

00:46:45.160 all, see where all your time's going and guaranteed. I, I, I know no one that's followed this advice

00:46:50.120 from me that did not come to the realization that they have plenty of time. Right. Right. So yeah,

00:46:56.120 my iPhone's got a new, uh, a new feature on it. Fairly new where it actually tells me how much time

00:47:01.160 I'm on there per day. I'm not even going to say what it is, but it's insane, but it's my job.

00:47:10.740 I could say that. Look, I could say that. And the reason I would say that as a part, part of that is

00:47:15.500 true, but come on, come on. Like it's not, I shouldn't be on there as often as I actually,

00:47:21.260 so my wife yesterday, she, she, this morning, or yesterday morning, she came up to me and she said,

00:47:25.140 I don't know. She got this little factoid. She's like, did you know that if you spend two hours,

00:47:29.140 two and a half hours, just two and a half hours on your phone every day, that that equates to a

00:47:35.140 month, what was it? A month and a half of time in your year. And I said, no way, no way. And I said,

00:47:45.680 okay, let me calculate it. So I jumped on, got on the calculator on my phone, ironically enough,

00:47:50.680 and I calculated it. And if you're on your phone for just two and a half hours per day,

00:47:57.200 that equates to 38 full 24 hour days a year. That's great. If you're on for two hours,

00:48:07.380 just two hours per day, that equates to 30 full 24 hour days of your year.

00:48:15.180 That is insane. But Ryan, I don't have time to learn a new hobby. I don't have time to work out.

00:48:21.460 Yeah. You don't have, yeah. It's crazy. I saw that statistic and it just blew my mind.

00:48:30.340 Yeah. But dude, I'm almost up to 1000 followers on Insta.

00:48:34.700 Keep going. It's awesome. It's going to serve you really, really well.

00:48:38.500 Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, look, I'm not blaming it. I'm not saying that to anybody else. I'm saying

00:48:42.660 that to myself. That is crazy. Yeah. All right. It's crazy. What else we got? All right.

00:48:47.180 Winston, Wolf, Larson, squats or deadlifts? Yes. Why do you have to pick one? I never

00:48:54.320 understood these questions. Why are you going to pick one? It's like curb rim, flat brim guys here.

00:49:00.020 They, they, they want to make you choose. What would you prefer to do? What do you like doing

00:49:04.600 more? Deadlifts. Deadlifts. I like deadlifts better than squats, but I'm not, I don't have to

00:49:10.320 pick one. Like, do you need to do both? They're both important. So do both of them. But yeah,

00:49:14.500 if I had to choose one that I like more than the other, I like deadlifts more than squats.

00:49:19.300 I'm actually, I actually suck at both. I'm not great at both. I'm really good at anything

00:49:24.260 overhead. I can even squat. Like, I feel like my squat is better when I have weight over my head.

00:49:30.580 I don't know if it's a balancing thing or what, but anything overhead, I feel really confident about

00:49:34.860 like shoulders, upper chest, strong there, but man, my lower body. And I, it's not like I skip that

00:49:43.260 stuff. My lower body is just not proportionately strong. It's where the beard is closest. So if

00:49:50.180 the beard is closer to the weight, you'll have more success. Yeah. So down. So maybe I just need

00:49:53.780 to grow my beard longer down to my legs or something and get, get them some power.

00:49:58.880 Stop man grooming and you'll be able to deadlift more.

00:50:01.560 Man grooming. I think that's different. Oh no, that's manscaping. Sorry. That's a different,

00:50:06.660 that's a different thing. All right. What else we got before we go too far down the rabbit hole and

00:50:10.460 start talking about banana hammocks, Mike Bloss Bloss. How do you help a nine-year-old boy from

00:50:16.580 being afraid of things? Failure, trying new food, getting hurt, doing sports, going into the basement,

00:50:21.660 et cetera. He's very talented, smart kid, but refuses to leave his comfort zones. I tried showing

00:50:27.020 him myself overcoming fears, taking risks and failing, but he seems unaffected by my example being

00:50:32.860 set. Yeah. Well, look, there's one thing. It's one thing to watch another person do something.

00:50:38.620 It's a completely different thing to do it yourself. Right? So if you were doing something

00:50:43.640 Kip that I thought was scary and you went skydiving, for example, I would say, well, that's, that's cool.

00:50:49.440 What's that got to do with me? You know what I mean? Like you going, me watching you go skydiving

00:50:56.480 doesn't put my heart at ease about skydiving. Now being exposed to it, like putting the suit on,

00:51:06.240 learning how the parachute works, going in a tunnel, being on the airplane, that exposure,

00:51:11.920 that familiarity is what breeds more confidence and more easiness about whatever that thing is.

00:51:18.360 So yeah, naturally, you know, your kids are going to be scared. And so what do you do? You go with

00:51:22.740 them the first time they're going to do something like the other night. Um, my son, my, my second son,

00:51:28.520 he's eight. He had, he asked him to take the trash out, but it was dark outside. And he's like,

00:51:33.460 no, I don't want to take the trash out. And I knew he didn't want to take the trash out because

00:51:36.220 he was scared of the dark. I get that. I understand. So, so I said, well, do you not

00:51:42.240 want to go outside? Cause you don't want to take the trash out or it's because it's dark.

00:51:45.140 And he's like, well, it's because it's dark. And I said, okay, well, how about I go out there with

00:51:48.680 you? You still take the trash. I'll just go out there with you. He's like, okay. So we did that.

00:51:52.240 And we did that for a couple of days. And then, um, the other night I'm like, Hey man,

00:51:56.680 take the trash out before you go to bed. And he's like, I don't know, I'm scared. And I said,

00:52:00.960 take the dog with you. Oh, okay. So he took the dog with him. So, so Sarge went out there with him

00:52:07.520 and I got to stay inside that time. And he went out. So like he's becoming familiar with it. And

00:52:12.300 you know, in the next couple of weeks, he'll be able to run out there and still be freaked a little

00:52:14.940 bit, but he'll be able to run out there and it won't be a big deal. So you got to breed that

00:52:17.900 familiarity. If he's scared about something, introduce it to him in a controlled environment

00:52:21.460 with you there, you going through the process with him and then gradually scale back the crutches that

00:52:27.740 he's been using, right? I was the crutch. Then the dog is the crutch. And eventually he won't need

00:52:31.680 anything at all, but it all comes through familiarity and it comes through pushing.

00:52:36.180 Also, this is a Jocko tactic. Sometimes you just have to flank them. The other day there was a,

00:52:41.580 a 5k in Northern Utah, uh, with mountain ops and I wanted to run it.

00:52:46.180 Thanks. Thanks for inviting me to come.

00:52:48.880 I did invite you.

00:52:50.380 No, you didn't.

00:52:51.100 I know as an open invitation that that's what I was.

00:52:53.000 Dick. Okay. I'm sorry. I am a dick. That was not cool.

00:52:58.380 You invited all 10 million listeners and I'm like, what? You're on a run. I would have went.

00:53:02.680 You're part of that. Like I just figured you're included. All right. I'm sorry. Dick move.

00:53:07.320 I'm a vetted.

00:53:08.620 Um, you're, you're in next time.

00:53:11.180 Mountain ops run.

00:53:12.540 Okay. All right. I'm sorry. Okay. I'm not, I'm not perfect. I apologize.

00:53:17.860 Anyways, let me get back to my story. So I knew if I told my eight-year-old,

00:53:22.740 we were going to do this, freak out and cry. So I didn't even tell him. I just said, Hey,

00:53:28.620 we're going up North. We're going to go to the hunting expo. He's like, okay. And then we went

00:53:31.720 and did the run the next morning and he was pissed, man. He's like, Oh, it's cold. I said,

00:53:36.220 well, we're already here. So we might as well do it. And it took him, you know, it was a three,

00:53:39.600 what? Three, 3.3 mile rate, whatever, whatever a 5k is. And you know, it took him a mile before he

00:53:45.940 like finally calmed down enough to be like, Oh, I guess this isn't too bad. So it's like, yeah,

00:53:50.360 we just face our fears. We just do it. And you don't make a big deal out of it and you just

00:53:54.960 flank them. And sometimes that works well too. Yeah. I have a bad example for Mike on what not

00:54:00.580 to do. So Kiave, uh, I mean, this is a couple of years ago. He's, he had the same problem,

00:54:06.100 right? Never wants to take out the trash. Yeah. And sometimes I'd like, okay, I'm going to stand on

00:54:10.080 the porch, right? You walk around the side of the house and I'll just hang out here while you do it,

00:54:13.760 whatever. Um, but it's so tempting. I love scaring my kids. And, uh, one time I'm like, Hey,

00:54:19.580 go out, take out the trash. And he's like, Oh man, it's dark. I'm like, it's no big deal.

00:54:22.540 And so he's putting it on his shoes, right? To, and he's upstairs while he's putting on his shoes,

00:54:27.620 he get ready to go outside. I run downstairs and I go out of the house through the basement,

00:54:32.160 dude. And I go around the trash cans. Yes. I hid by the trash cans around the corner of the house.

00:54:37.520 And so when he came around the corner and got trash cans, I made like some, I don't know,

00:54:41.120 wild animal noise. He freaked like he like no joke. He's falling over as he's running.

00:54:48.900 He goes into the house, screaming, slides underneath the table. He's freaking out.

00:54:55.560 I hear my wife's what's going on. Let's go. I'm like, it was so funny.

00:54:58.920 You just called me a dick.

00:55:01.360 I know I was completely, it's an example of what not to do, Mike. It did not help.

00:55:06.600 I would have done the same thing, but you just undermined yourself. But dude, it's so hard,

00:55:13.780 so hard not to want to do that stuff. Yeah. You got to be careful, man. You got to be careful.

00:55:17.880 Short-term, you placed a short-term gain over the long-term gain for him. So well done, Kip.

00:55:25.420 Yeah. Yeah. Then I had to work extra hard for another like six months.

00:55:28.780 Exactly.

00:55:29.380 To get back over this year.

00:55:30.320 Exactly. But if any dad isn't laughing right now or says they haven't done that,

00:55:36.740 they're lying or they're just not a good dad. Cause it's okay to like do that stuff and mess up

00:55:42.020 every once in a while. All right. It kills me, dude. I can't stop. It's just funny. Cause it's

00:55:50.420 like, I can envision you tiptoeing through the basement out the door and I could just see myself

00:55:55.940 in that for sure. I don't know why I enjoy it so much. It's so fun. It is. It's funny. It's fun.

00:56:03.760 It's funny. All right. Let's move on before people think less of us. They already do,

00:56:07.940 but let's just keep going. Rob Peterson, how do you become the type of man that you would want

00:56:13.880 your daughter to model after when you, when she chooses a man? Well, I think just the fact that

00:56:19.460 you're thinking about it says that it's on your mind and that you're probably aware of it to some

00:56:23.280 degree. I think just keep, keep that on your mind. Right. But the answer is battle plan.

00:56:27.340 Just battle plan. I think that's the answer to like 90% of what we're talking about here is,

00:56:31.700 is make a plan, execute the plan, review the plan, and then do it all over again.

00:56:37.940 Over and over and over and over and over again. It's in the back of the book sovereignty. So we

00:56:43.700 talk about vision, which is what he's talking about right here is like, you got to visualize

00:56:47.720 you becoming that individual. What does that look like? How does she look at you? What's your daddy

00:56:52.020 daughter dance going to be? You know, when you give her away and when she gets married, that,

00:56:55.020 that sort of thing. So vision, then you create objectives. All right. In order to become that,

00:57:00.220 or in order to bring to life that vision, what do I need to accomplish? What objectives

00:57:05.240 specifically do I need to accomplish? And then you work into tactics. So what do I need to do

00:57:10.440 on a daily basis in order to complete set objective, which will help me fulfill that vision.

00:57:15.440 And then you have checkpoints along the way to make sure you're on track and adjust accordingly.

00:57:19.320 And then you review it and you start all over again. You keep doing that. I promise you,

00:57:23.580 whether that's business or fitness or being an example to your daughter or your son or, or connecting

00:57:28.940 with your wife, any facet of life, you do that enough. You incorporate that as an operating

00:57:34.360 system and a standard operating procedure in the way you will live your life. You cannot fail long

00:57:39.140 term. You cannot help, but succeed, thrive, grow in every capacity. It's the battle plan.

00:57:46.340 And if you're looking for a way to track that battle plan, there are battle planners for sale

00:57:50.400 on the order of man order a store.

00:57:53.280 Store. Correct. There's only a few of the old iteration and we have a new one coming out in

00:57:58.260 like three weeks, maybe two, three weeks, somewhere in there. It's awesome. Cool.

00:58:04.680 All right. Um, what I had a thought. Oh, Rob, I would also say, I think our daughters model us

00:58:15.080 based upon how we treat them, but also how we treat our wives. So I think that's critical.

00:58:19.440 Yeah, I agree. It's not just how we show up, but it's how we show up towards our daughters,

00:58:22.400 but it's also how we treat our wives. So you make sure, right. That your relationship with your

00:58:26.480 spouses is in good shape and that she's seen how a man should treat his wife.

00:58:33.260 Absolutely. A hundred percent.

00:58:34.940 All right. Morgan B. Cook. I manage, this is, this is good. This is like very specific for you.

00:58:40.060 All right. Morgan B. Cook. I manage a funeral home that is owned by at least 25 shareholders,

00:58:44.800 none of which are funeral directors or have any experience or knowledge in the funeral industry.

00:58:48.900 I essentially run the business as if I was the owner. One of the shareholders recently inherited

00:58:54.160 his share from his mother who passed away approaching and approached me about purchasing

00:58:58.540 it. For my guessing, each share is valued approximately around 80 to a hundred thousand.

00:59:04.940 I return, the return is about 8,000 in distributions per share each year, depending on what the board

00:59:11.780 of directors voted on. Of course, I do not have the cash laying around for this. With your financial

00:59:17.320 background, do you feel this is a good investment financially? And what avenues of financing would

00:59:23.340 you recommend? I am interested in this due to, due to, I just do not want to be a manager the rest of

00:59:30.740 my career, minimum of 30 years to go. There's a lot there.

00:59:35.580 Yeah, there is a lot. But if you look at it, let's, let's just take, let's take a hundred thousand.

00:59:42.740 And he said a hundred thousand is a valuation for the share.

00:59:46.480 Yeah. And he said 8,000 in distributions a year. Is that what he said?

00:59:51.320 Per share each year. And there's 25 shareholders.

00:59:54.460 Okay. So what you're looking at is you're looking at an 8% rate of return on your investment,

00:59:59.820 right? Now, if it's, if the share is valued at 80,000, then your rate of return is even higher.

01:00:05.080 So is 8% rate of return, a good rate of return? Sure. Yeah, absolutely. And you have to consider,

01:00:12.840 is it going to continue to pay out that sort of dividend? Like I would look at your track record.

01:00:17.640 Has it, has it historically paid out that every single year? Has it paid out less? Has it paid

01:00:22.120 out more? Like what's the likelihood? Is it exactly what's the likelihood that this dividend will

01:00:26.480 continue? Cause that dividend, it may be zero. And then you have a 0% rate of return on your money

01:00:30.940 that year. So the question then becomes, let's just assume, okay, this is a big assumption here,

01:00:36.460 but something you'll have to take into consideration is let's just assume that you're

01:00:40.580 going to get 8% rate of return on your money each year. The question is how, what is the cost of the

01:00:47.920 investment? So what is the cost of the a hundred thousand dollars? If you pull it, let's say you had

01:00:52.680 a hundred thousand dollars in your bank account, the cost, if it was in a savings account might be

01:00:58.040 on the, on the high side might be 0.5%, right? Cause the money's not in there. So you're not

01:01:05.800 earning 0.5% on a hundred thousand, but you're earning 8%. So that's a, that's, that's a net

01:01:10.080 seven and a half percent gain, right? Yeah. If you have to borrow the money, which is what he's

01:01:15.560 talking about, what's the interest rate? If the interest rate on the money you're going to borrow

01:01:19.660 is 10%, but you're only going to get 8% back then no, that's not a good investment unless

01:01:24.460 the funeral home is growing and will continue to grow over time. You just have to basically

01:01:30.520 look at the cost of the money that you're getting relative to the rate of return that

01:01:36.540 you'll likely receive. And there's a lot of assumptions in there. You can't do away without

01:01:41.440 that level of risk, but that's what you'd be looking at. And the other thing I would suggest

01:01:46.360 too, is that's an 8% rate of return in the first year. And then the next year it's more

01:01:51.900 and the next year it's more and the next year it's more. And eventually, I mean, it's going

01:01:54.420 to continue to go on indefinitely, even after that a hundred thousand is paid off. If you

01:01:58.400 took a loan for it, for example. So there's a lot to take into consideration here. It just

01:02:02.940 depends on how much you're going to have to pay for the money.

01:02:06.640 Cool. All right. Jeff Hollis, you've posted several lists of what men need to do close to

01:02:12.640 the top. Regularly seems to have go after women or a woman who is out of your league.

01:02:18.600 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. I know.

01:02:20.700 Wait, say that again. I don't think I've ever heard you say that.

01:02:22.980 Yeah. Yeah. Say that again. Cause that I don't, that doesn't sound like me. So say that one more

01:02:26.280 time. You've posted several lists of, of what men need to do close to the top. Regularly is go

01:02:33.320 after women slash or a woman who is out of your league. I've said not to do that or to do that.

01:02:40.620 I think to do that, right. That you should go after women. All right. Keep, keep going. Let's,

01:02:45.460 let's hear the whole question. Okay. From what I've read in most books,

01:02:48.800 from the recommendation reading list is that there are no women out of your league,

01:02:52.800 that your, that your frame of mind should be more, uh, frame of mind should be that you are worthy of

01:03:01.680 any woman. So which is it? Well, you're not worthy of any woman

01:03:06.280 because you may or may not be worthy of that woman like that. That's determined upon your,

01:03:13.800 your, your worthiness is not the right word. Really? It's, I'm trying to think about how to

01:03:20.040 let me back up. Let me back up. Let me start over here. I don't think I've ever said,

01:03:23.800 go after a woman out of your league. I can't envision saying that. That doesn't sound like

01:03:28.640 something I would say because I believe to, to the next sentence here is that there isn't any league.

01:03:34.500 Like this woman isn't out of my league, for example, that seems like a weird thing for me to say.

01:03:38.620 So I can't, I can't remember ever saying something like that. Um, I think that you should strive for,

01:03:44.620 for a good woman period. I mean, you, you got to find a woman who has aspirations, who has

01:03:50.120 potential. Frankly, I know that even that statement will rub people the wrong way,

01:03:54.560 but you know what? Like when I, when I was looking for a potential partner, I wanted someone with

01:03:58.660 potential. They hadn't realized that potential yet, but she would say the same thing about me is like,

01:04:03.120 I hadn't realized that potential, but I had the potential. So she saw that as a benefit and vice

01:04:08.060 versa. We see that in women too. Um, yeah, there's no leagues or whatever. Just, just do this.

01:04:13.460 Focus on finding the best woman that you possibly can and focus on becoming the best man that you

01:04:20.300 possibly can. Great women are attracted to great men. Are there exceptions to that? Sure. But generally

01:04:26.040 speaking, the higher quality man that you are, the higher quality woman you're likely to attract.

01:04:33.060 Yeah. And make yourself maybe deserving is a good word. Yeah. I think that that would probably be a

01:04:38.080 better word. Yeah. The worthiness thing is kind of a weird way to say that. And it's, it's not really

01:04:42.680 indicative of what I mean. So I think deserve, I mean, even that's a little weird the way we're

01:04:47.720 talking about it, but, um, I think guys know, know what I mean. It's like, was my, I'm trying to

01:04:53.440 think if my wife was out of my league. No, she wasn't out of my league. She had a lot of potential

01:04:57.200 and she's realizing that potential now. And I don't think I was out of her league. I had a lot

01:05:01.580 of potential and I'm realizing that potential now, but I don't like the league type stuff,

01:05:05.360 but yeah, I mean, you better believe I'm going to go after a physically attractive woman,

01:05:09.640 an intelligent woman, somebody who has potential, somebody I could see being the mother of my

01:05:13.700 children, somebody I could see standing shoulder to shoulder with and, and, and building our empire.

01:05:18.000 Yeah. You better believe I'm chasing that kind of woman. I'm not going to chase somebody who

01:05:20.920 doesn't have any potential or I'm not physically or mentally or emotionally attracted to that's

01:05:24.340 ridiculous. And some people will fight me on that. Well, it's, it's on the inside is what

01:05:29.200 matters. Yeah. Partly, but also I need to be attracted to this woman physically. So

01:05:33.820 totally. Well, and, and, and I don't, I don't, I don't think the Jeff is asking this question,

01:05:39.800 right? Uh, specifically, but I think it's obvious or it may, might be valuable to bring it up is

01:05:45.380 it. And if you feel, or you're attracted to a woman and you feel like she's out of your league,

01:05:49.860 well, then guess what? Level up, right? Right. Go pro, you know, get out of the minors,

01:05:55.720 great point, do whatever necessary to get in the pros. Uh, so then that way you qualify yourself

01:06:00.980 to be, even be a consideration for her. Enough said exactly. Done. See, mic drop. How many,

01:06:10.600 how many, uh, how many more questions do we have? Uh, we have too many to wrap up. All right. Why don't

01:06:15.140 we take a couple more and then we'll call it a day. Okay. Aaron Lopez. How do I find my stride

01:06:20.040 when it comes to fitness? I was on the wagon for a while, lost weight, had self-confidence and proved

01:06:26.020 everything was great, but I fell off the wagon when life got busy. What are my choices? So maybe

01:06:33.440 some tactics around staying on the wagon. Well, first of all, do what you were doing before.

01:06:38.500 Yeah. You know, it works. So do that. Um, also I would say here's where a lot of people fall short

01:06:43.120 is they don't plan for contingencies or things going wrong. What they do is they do their planning

01:06:47.080 in this perfect environment where everything works and you're not busy and nobody's demanding

01:06:51.040 in your time and you're not going through a lawsuit or a divorce. And so any one of these

01:06:54.460 variables that comes up completely derails us because we didn't anticipate for it. And it may

01:06:59.220 not even be that catastrophic. It may just be that you're busy. Okay. Well, how do you plan for

01:07:03.560 busyness? Same thing with travel. Okay. I can't do my same nutrition or exercise regimen because I'm

01:07:09.220 traveling legitimate. So what are you going to do about it? And it just takes a little bit of

01:07:14.340 intentionality to realize that not everything's going to be perfect. And what specifically are

01:07:18.940 you going to do when things are not perfect? Give you a prime example. I was in Atlanta this last

01:07:23.620 weekend. Uh, I knew that I wasn't going to be able to get into the gym. And so I actually programmed

01:07:28.540 two workouts prior to even going that I could do in my hotel room. And guess what I did? I did those

01:07:34.880 two workouts, body weight movements. It was pushups. It was sit-ups. It was burpees and air

01:07:39.500 squats. I could do that in the hotel room, but I planned ahead. I was intentional. I was deliberate.

01:07:44.660 And that way, when things were different and the environment around me was different,

01:07:48.680 I was still able to get what I wanted to get done. So be intentional, be deliberate,

01:07:53.960 and also plant your flag, man. Like I know so many people, especially as the weather starts to warm up

01:07:59.440 and people are going to start thinking about going to the beach and going on the cruises and things like

01:08:03.100 that. Like, Oh, I need to get the 90 day beach body. Okay. Well, I don't think there's anything

01:08:06.400 wrong inherently with that. I think what we run into is that you shouldn't be planning for the

01:08:11.420 90 day beach body. You should be planning for the lifelong beach body. Yeah. So plant your flag

01:08:16.660 and say, Hey, this is not something I want to do, you know, for the next 90 days. I see that with

01:08:22.240 keto a lot. It's like, Oh, I'm just doing like a keto diet or a cleansing diet for 30 days. It's like,

01:08:26.720 why not do a real sustainable diet for your entire life? That's a better approach than I'll just do this

01:08:32.760 for 90 days and see how it goes. Yeah, totally. I, I wonder what, what's your thoughts on kind of

01:08:39.500 Aubrey Marcus's, you know, own the day, like stop, stop trying to, I mean, own today. Like Aaron,

01:08:46.720 what does today look like? Like, how would you crush it today? What do you need to do today?

01:08:51.660 Cause I think sometimes we get off the wagon in regards to like what we're working on because,

01:08:56.360 well, today's the exception or, you know, I have time or you know what I mean? It's,

01:09:01.540 I have a 30 day, 60 day plan or whatever versus like, just kill it today. Yeah. That's all you

01:09:06.860 have to do. Just kill it today. I like it. It's the, uh, what is it? The Kaizen method,

01:09:10.340 right? 1% daily. Like just be 1% better today. Don't worry about what's going to happen tomorrow.

01:09:15.660 Yeah. You're going to have goals and ambitions and objectives, but worry about being that individual

01:09:19.420 today. That's why we actually break it down like that in the battle plan is because you don't,

01:09:23.480 you don't want to be goal. How do I say this? So heavily goal oriented. Like you want to have a goal,

01:09:29.680 but then you want to be activity focused. What is it that I'm going to do that will help me

01:09:35.540 achieve that goal? Not so goal focused without the action and the activity behind it.

01:09:39.620 For sure. Cool. Last one. I'm running. Yeah. Last one. Yep. Yeah. This is a long one too.

01:09:46.360 If we want to skip that one and go to it next week, we can do that too. I'll let you be the judge.

01:09:51.840 Cause I don't know what the question is. Control. Oh, I thought you were just

01:09:55.540 one in my insight and opinion. I do. All right. Greg Tappan, what would you consider some of the

01:10:02.160 best survival skills to be besides hunting? I think, uh, foraging and recognizing plants and what

01:10:08.220 is edible, uh, to what isn't is something that is useful. I guess I'm going to go hunt,

01:10:15.340 go with hunting, maybe knowing how to use as much of the animal as possible could be good as well.

01:10:20.180 Yeah. I think those are good. Um, I think, uh, shelter and understanding how to find shelter,

01:10:26.260 which could be developing and building shelter, but also understanding environment and, uh, the,

01:10:31.960 the, the factors that you'll be dealing with, whether it's moisture or cold or extreme heat.

01:10:36.940 So understanding that and then building the shelter fire starting, I think would be a huge deal.

01:10:41.400 Understanding how to get warm, uh, also finding water, but also just extraction, right? You need to

01:10:47.820 know how to get yourself out of that environment because sometimes you're not going to be able to

01:10:51.840 be extracted. So how, see, we think about survival and all that's really good. You need to learn how

01:10:56.860 to survive, but how are you going to get yourself out of that situation? Right? Like, how are you

01:11:00.880 going to navigate to find yourself and put yourself in a, in a better, in a better spot? So I think you

01:11:06.460 covered a lot, hunting, foraging, gathering, but shelter, understanding the environment, uh, how to start a

01:11:12.760 fire and then extraction strategies, I think are all really important as well.

01:11:16.700 Yeah. Uh, maybe you can remember this, Ryan, cause I know, you know, this stuff too,

01:11:20.820 is what is it? It's without proper shelter, uh, in extreme conditions, you got three hours.

01:11:27.580 Yeah. It's like the three, three, three method, right? Yeah. Water. You have three days

01:11:31.240 and food. You have three weeks. Yep. Yep. That's, that's the general thumb I've heard. Yeah. Yeah.

01:11:38.060 Cool. All right. Should we wrap it up? Yeah, let's do this. All right. Hey,

01:11:42.920 let me say a couple of things, Kit, before you get into to where you're going to go with this. Um,

01:11:46.260 just one thing, two things really, really quickly. I think we have one spot left for

01:11:51.100 legacy. That's it. So if you have a, if you're a father and you have a son between the ages of eight

01:11:55.040 to 15, one spot left. In fact, we sold it out and this guy needed to, to cancel cause he had a

01:12:00.080 conflicting schedule. So that one just came available. So if you had to order a man.com

01:12:04.880 slash legacy, it's April 11th through the 14th. It's awesome. So excited about it. Uh, and you're

01:12:10.080 going to be there Kip as well. So that's good. Yeah. And then podcast pro starts, uh, the end of

01:12:16.640 this week, beginning of next week. That's a podcasting course on how to become a podcasting

01:12:20.560 professional where I pull back the curtains and share everything from equipment that you need to

01:12:25.180 securing interviews, to how to host and conduct a conversation, everything, everything you'll

01:12:30.640 possibly need to get your voice and message out into the world and have people listen and pay

01:12:34.840 attention and then act upon that information as well. And that can be found at order of man.com

01:12:38.980 slash podcast pro. That's all I've got. Are we promoting the origin immersion camp?

01:12:45.760 Oh yes, we are. Um, cause that registration opens today, today, I believe let you keep talking,

01:12:54.040 let us know how we can connect. And then I'm going to pull this up and see if I can find it while you're

01:12:58.640 doing that. Sounds good. Ryan alluded to this earlier, but there's really three ways that you can

01:13:03.640 connect with us on this, on the AMA podcast and submit your questions. One is through the Patreon,

01:13:08.760 uh, by becoming a Patreon member, you can learn more at patreon.com slash order of man. The second

01:13:15.440 is our exclusive brotherhood, the iron council. Uh, you can learn more there at order of man.com

01:13:20.880 slash iron council. And then last, uh, Facebook on the Facebook group. And that's facebook.com slash

01:13:27.960 groups slash order of man. Excellent. Um, yeah. What else? Oh, did you get the origin stuff? Yeah.

01:13:35.340 If you head to origin main.com, um, I'm trying to figure out how to like what the actual link is,

01:13:46.600 but I will tell you that it's held on August 25th through September 1st. It's going to be amazing.

01:13:57.260 Kip and I, I'm going to be there. Are you going to be there Kip? Yeah, I'm going to be there for

01:14:00.820 sure. So again, it's August 25th through September 1st of this year, go to origin main.com. And

01:14:08.520 it says product, but I'm not really sure how to get here. Um, yeah, I don't know.

01:14:18.540 Yeah. We'll have to link it up. Iron this out. Yeah. We can link it up or we all,

01:14:21.600 we can iron this out and, and get you guys some more info on, on following episodes. The key thing

01:14:26.840 is to like, um, for you jujitsu guys, man, the price of this is like awesome. Like what you get.

01:14:35.440 So good. Yeah. What you get your housing, food, jujitsu instruction, tons of mat time for the

01:14:43.280 price is you can't, you can't even like come close to this. Yeah. So it's, it's super slick. Yeah.

01:14:49.640 I'm going to have to reach out to these guys cause finding this on the site is kind of crazy. It

01:14:53.640 looks like, but we'll, we'll link it up, but yeah. Yeah. You've got the dates. So yeah. So connect with

01:15:01.160 Ryan, uh, on Twitter at Ryan Mickler or on Instagram at Ryan Mickler. And then you have a

01:15:07.480 soft open, right? For the store possibly. Yep. On Monday. And you're thinking on Monday. Yeah. And

01:15:12.320 the discount code, the discount code. Um, I'm just going to use Brecken cause that's my son. He's

01:15:18.300 running the store. I want to support him. We'll use the discount code. We'll do 10% off on everything

01:15:23.440 in the store. And there'll also be a lot of sale items anyways. And we'll do 10% off on that as well.

01:15:28.320 So how do you spell Brecken? B-R-E-C-K-E-N. Okay. Yep. All right, guys. Cool. That's it. Well,

01:15:36.360 I appreciate you being on this call. I appreciate you tuning in and asking your questions. It's good

01:15:40.220 to know that you guys have some, some thoughtful questions and these all were, so I hope we gave

01:15:43.880 you some answers and, uh, let's keep doing it. All right. We'll keep doing the AMAs. You keep asking

01:15:48.460 the questions. We'll keep leveling up in all, in all ways. And, uh, we'll go from there. All right,

01:15:52.500 guys, get out there, take action and become the man you are meant to be.

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Order of Man - February 27, 2019

Building a Band of Brothers, Critical Survival Skills, and Fitness for a Busy Schedule ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

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