Order of Man - Closing Uncommunicated Loops, Building an Integrity Tour, and Developing a Value System

00:00:00.000 when you just say sorry and you just own it like no excuses no like I never I didn't ever say to

00:00:06.800 any of those people and there's probably half a dozen I didn't ever say to them hey here's the

00:00:10.780 reason I did it I did not say that I've actually done this with you Kip like there's been moments

00:00:15.840 where I've actually mistreated you and there's like two or three that I can remember and I've

00:00:20.000 called you up and I've said hey man that was not cool I took advantage or I didn't treat you the

00:00:26.200 way that you deserve as a friend to be treated and I'm sorry. Okay, what's up, man? Great to

00:00:32.560 see you this Monday morning coming off the back of a weekend and getting into things right, man.

00:00:36.900 I'm glad to have you here. Yeah, absolutely. And we got some pretty good questions today. I'm

00:00:43.360 actually intrigued by the questions as well as what you're going to come up with. So no pressure,

00:00:48.700 Ryan. Bring it. I'll always come up with something interesting, whether or not it's relevant or

00:00:54.800 accurate is to be determined, but it will always be interesting. I got a message from a guy earlier,

00:01:02.540 I think it was over the weekend. And he said, Hey man, I just wanted to tell you,

00:01:05.380 I appreciated your last post that you made. I agree with some of the things that you say.

00:01:11.200 And I was like, that's exactly right. That's what it should be. You know, if,

00:01:15.040 if somebody is agreeing with everything that you say, or you're always getting it right,

00:01:19.020 I can't help but think maybe there's some manipulation going on there. Um, or maybe

00:01:23.500 there's just some pedestalizing if that's a word going on and both probably are not conducive to

00:01:29.820 yeah you're like uh are you critical thinking enough right like are you sure you completely

00:01:35.440 agree because i i may not agree right i mean how many times i'm sure that's happened to you but

00:01:40.540 at least from my perspective over the years i'm like you know we may say something and then later

00:01:45.760 in the week i'm like hmm you know maybe i'd say that a little bit different right maybe i don't

00:01:50.540 see it the same way i've i see it so yeah i yeah that's exactly right i was gonna i wrote down like

00:01:57.060 i don't even agree with half the things i say and do you know and and we justify all sort of all

00:02:03.240 sorts of misbehavior and bullshit and i it's like we're we're i do this more than other people i

00:02:10.240 think i i don't know if it's more than but we we sabotage ourselves we we know exactly how to talk

00:02:16.340 to ourselves to talk us into the things that we already know we shouldn't be doing, but we want

00:02:21.940 to do. Um, it's bad, man. Like you, you really need a level of vigilance otherwise. And I'm

00:02:27.800 talking to myself more than anybody else here. You really need a level of vigilance or you're

00:02:31.660 just going to continue to sabotage yourself. Or I should say, I'm going to continue to sabotage

00:02:36.100 myself. Yeah. Yeah. I mean that level, the level of self-awareness I think is critical and it's

00:02:44.740 never like oh i'm i'm a self-aware it's it's this constant effort to evaluate one's actions

00:02:50.800 and thought process to ensure that it's aligned with what we deem important you know and it's

00:02:57.680 why do you think you're not yeah i i just have some questions for you maybe a little personal

00:03:02.740 coaching from you why do you think that we as men do that like why do we why do we uh like what am

00:03:12.300 I even asking here? Why do we make, make up justifications and rationalizations for our

00:03:17.620 behavior? Um, is, do you think it's fear? Do you think it's some sort of programming that is

00:03:25.260 subconscious? Like it's such a broad question, but does that even make sense what I'm asking?

00:03:30.600 Yeah, totally. I think it's probably a combination of, well, first off,

00:03:35.840 a lot of what we do is habit formed, right? And so it's like, when did this start, right? When

00:03:42.660 did I self-sabotage? When did I start creating half-truths and living out of integrity?

00:03:50.520 Probably throughout my entire life, right? But I think a lot of it is habit forming,

00:03:57.080 but then it's like, well, why do we do it? Well, there's a payoff, right? And the payoff is

00:04:01.120 not taking responsibility for things. And probably the other payoff that we constantly seek is

00:04:08.000 instant gratification. And I, and I think it's a combination of those things. And, and integrity

00:04:14.440 is a, I know maybe a strong word for some people, like they'll be like, Oh, you know, it's not

00:04:18.940 really integrity in like, absolutely. It is. I think integrity is, is farm. The lack of integrity

00:04:27.060 is far more present in people's lives

00:04:29.200 than they want to give credit for.

00:04:31.460 Yeah.

00:04:32.140 And it's integrity with oneself, right?

00:04:35.380 Not some, the Bible integrity.

00:04:37.520 I'm talking about the integrity of my being says

00:04:42.140 I should probably do something and I go against it, right?

00:04:44.960 You've heard me use that term self-betrayal.

00:04:47.200 It's these small acts of self-betrayal all the time.

00:04:50.620 And when you're out of integrity,

00:04:52.060 you have to justify it to live with yourself.

00:04:54.260 so the minute i don't do what i know i should do i i self-sabotage i immediately make up excuses

00:05:01.300 and reasoning so i don't feel bad and it's and it's wild how easy it is for us to get into that

00:05:08.440 space so as i'm as i'm hearing you say this the answer is just do the right thing regardless of

00:05:16.340 the outcome yeah i mean that's what i'm hard to say because a lot of guys like i'll do this too

00:05:21.980 you know i'll do things where part of what what i've noticed even in myself is like a level of

00:05:27.900 self-preservation and preserving my own interests right we do that preserve your own interests

00:05:32.780 and so you lie and you'll steal and you'll cheat and you'll do all the things um but you know and

00:05:38.440 i know and so when you start to justify and rationalize it's like you know maybe the answer

00:05:43.900 not maybe the answer i think is just do the right thing i think it i think for me sometimes doing

00:05:51.080 the right thing is hard when I know somebody will be negatively impacted by me doing the right

00:05:57.400 thing. You know, maybe they'll feel bad. Something as simple as they'll feel bad. Or, you know,

00:06:03.280 maybe they'll, they'll not understand. Or I don't know, like when you start to get other people

00:06:07.920 involved, I've noticed about myself is where I start to be like, maybe I shouldn't do that because

00:06:12.900 I don't want to hurt their feelings or I don't want to make them feel bad. And that's, that's

00:06:18.060 one of the things that gets me. I don't know if that applies to all of the guys, but I'm sure

00:06:22.460 it applies to a lot of the men listening. For sure. I mean, even think about how passive we are

00:06:28.700 in just relationships with our spouses, right? Just to keep the peace. I mean, that is so common,

00:06:36.280 so common, right? And that's why we got to make, you know, and we talk about this a lot on the

00:06:43.400 podcast and you talk about this in our council. It's like, why are we doing what we're doing?

00:06:47.640 It has to be rooted in something else other than appeasing people, right?

00:06:51.600 It has to be rooted in a value system and a vision of something greater than oneself.

00:06:57.400 And if it's not, then awesome.

00:06:59.180 You'll go around being a tumbleweed and the wind of change is what everyone else wants

00:07:06.040 you to do.

00:07:06.920 And you're going to find yourself really pissed off and really just being an asshole to everybody

00:07:12.540 eventually.

00:07:13.520 i think pissed off being an asshole but also like really creating some real problems financially

00:07:19.760 relationally spiritually for yourself that is hard to overcome at times you know when you said

00:07:28.080 your life has to be rooted in a value system that really struck that really uh stands out to me

00:07:33.180 because um it some for some people i think it might be religion or spirituality for some people

00:07:40.660 it might be a personal code of conduct, but I think that's the ultimate litmus test that we fail

00:07:45.860 often is, you know, am I, for example, a virtue, am I being honest, a hundred percent honest and

00:07:52.340 accurate? Um, am I being hardworking? Am I being an integrity? Am I being a man of my word? Am I

00:07:58.020 following through on my commitments? Am I, um, you know, like hurting people? Am I, here's what I

00:08:06.200 would say, am I treating people's, I have some emotion behind this, hold on, am I treating

00:08:22.100 other people's hearts carelessly, right, like that's a thing, I'm emotional because I've

00:08:31.960 I've done that right and for my own self-interest and then I forget that oh like fuck you're dealing

00:08:40.220 with other people's hearts you're dealing with other people's lives and that sucks

00:08:47.280 totally I think it's important to know you know like someone might be listening it's just like

00:08:56.460 oh man, like I have all these areas of my life that I'm not this way, right? Where I'm out of

00:09:02.820 integrity or I'm not showing up how I should be showing up. I think it's important to note that

00:09:08.400 this is a choice over and over, right? Yeah. And yeah, for sure. In the next hour, I can be

00:09:17.360 completely out of integrity and then be back in integrity the hour after, right? It's, I think

00:09:22.720 it's more of a, you're not a man of integrity or you're not. I think it's, are you choosing to be

00:09:28.240 over and over again, which I think gives some grace and some hope, right? Is if we are,

00:09:36.080 if we've come up short, then make the change now and choose over and over again, you know,

00:09:43.720 what that looks like for us. And after all, I mean, I think that's what's expected. And it's

00:09:49.160 that hard that it's a constant choice over and over again it's it's it sounds like a lot you

00:09:55.120 know oftentimes we talk about balance being a verb instead of a a place that you get to that

00:10:00.820 you arrive to it's it's not balance you don't find balance you are constantly balancing that's

00:10:07.720 the difference um but i think in you don't find integrity you are being in integrity i think is

00:10:16.620 what i'm hearing you say so am i integrity now am i in integrity in 20 minutes i will to be

00:10:24.000 determined we'll see uh but it's something that we do every single moment of every single day

00:10:29.520 you know it's interesting i'd like to add this if you don't mind

00:10:32.880 it also has to do with where you are for instance there's probably times of my life

00:10:39.700 where I was in integrity. But looking back, based upon what I know now, I'm like, oh, no, I wasn't.

00:10:50.900 But I was in the moment based upon where I was and who I was in the moment. So this is why so

00:10:57.200 much of it has to do with a betrayal of self based upon where you are as an individual,

00:11:04.180 based upon your understanding and based upon how you see the world. And that changes.

00:11:11.500 And so something I've done 10 years ago where I felt like, man, this is the right thing. I may

00:11:16.220 look back at it and go, actually, based upon where I was, I made the best choice. Yes. However,

00:11:22.120 knowing what I know now, I see it different. And so, so much of this also has to do with where we

00:11:28.340 are as an individual and how we see the world. I, you know, I, I wrestle with that though.

00:11:34.040 Honestly, I wrestle with that because I mean, we talked, we talked about this a couple. Yeah. I mean,

00:11:38.260 we talked about this a couple of weeks ago, like you did the best you could with the information

00:11:41.720 you had. Right. And I do, I do think that kind of, but I think where it becomes dangerous is

00:11:50.180 where we start to well here's here's what you see in modern society modern society says it's okay

00:11:59.900 you did the best you could learn to forgive yourself give yourself some grace these are

00:12:07.800 the things that you hear in modern society and i agree about 30 of the time or at least 30 of the

00:12:15.700 meter like give yourself 30 grace and 70 fix your shit but i think what people do when they hear

00:12:23.540 stuff like that is like give yourself some grace you did the best you could is they over index it

00:12:28.800 they they they only look at that and they're like oh you know i was a mess up i screwed up i did

00:12:34.540 this i did that i shouldn't have done that but but it was okay because i you know i did the best i

00:12:38.820 could well hold on where is the learning in that where is the growth in that where is the pain in

00:12:44.600 that, you know? And, and I was talking with some people over the weekend and we were talking about

00:12:49.000 mistakes we've made and struggles we've had. And it's like, that just sucks, right? Like it sucks

00:12:53.920 to go through that, but also, uh, you have, it has to hurt. It really has to hurt. If it doesn't

00:13:02.480 hurt, you're either a psychopath or you're not going to learn from it. And those were the only

00:13:05.960 two scenarios that I've decided. Totally. I agree. I totally agree with you. Like we're on the same

00:13:13.320 page. Like, and this is why the self-awareness element of this is really important because are

00:13:17.620 you, are you BSing yourself? But maybe here's a pulse. And I like what you said. So let me just

00:13:22.420 reiterate it is if you can't identify your role in it, if you can't identify the responsibility,

00:13:29.820 your responsibility in the upset, then you're not going to learn. Yeah. And so if it's surface level,

00:13:37.300 like, oh, well, I did my best. It's like, well, no, no, no. Okay. Got it. You did your best,

00:13:41.600 but what did you do wrong? What should you have done differently? If you can't say that,

00:13:47.180 then now you're just making an excuse and you're not going to learn from this situation.

00:13:52.040 Yeah, no, it's true. It's true. Well, all right. Good riff for, you know, 15 minutes before getting

00:13:59.060 into the listener questions. So, all right. We have a question from a Daryl Hahn. He says,

00:14:04.240 building on the conversation you all had about focusing on things you can control

00:14:08.680 since we're about to do another preview call can you go about how you came up with the four

00:14:14.120 quadrants of the battle plan and what makes them important it's a good refresher for the guys

00:14:19.120 listening and an intro for the newbies yeah so the four quadrants just to go through that real

00:14:25.600 quick are four aspects of life broadly real real generic and generally that men ought to focus on

00:14:31.820 that if they focus on one objective per quarter in each of those quadrants, they'll thrive and

00:14:39.620 succeed. And it's not easy. It's simple. It can be real challenging just to focus on four things

00:14:47.980 because we're constantly pulled in so many different directions and so many different

00:14:52.000 things that we could focus on. And so I thought about what are the most important things in my

00:14:57.520 life and it's family and it's friends and it's my spirituality and it's my money and my career

00:15:03.040 and giving back into the community and making sure I'm strong and capable and getting the sleep I

00:15:09.300 need and feeling my body correctly so I feel good it's like all of these things but then

00:15:13.640 one skill set that I have and I'm not ashamed to say this at all is taking complex theories and

00:15:19.780 ideas and breaking them down into the most common basic simple easy to follow routine

00:15:27.620 it's actually kind of interesting as i analyze that because modern society says if it's simple

00:15:34.400 it won't work and many men will over complicate things to excuse themselves from the performance

00:15:44.360 so i actually get some critique and pushback on what we do because you know it's not that simple

00:15:50.660 it's not that easy well have you tried it no well okay then don't don't complain about it

00:15:55.920 you know i look at a sports team for example and you could take a football team that has

00:16:01.280 we've used this analogy before has a hundred different plays that kids are supposed to

00:16:06.740 memorize and then flip it and go to the right side instead of the left or vice versa and all

00:16:11.460 a sudden it turned 100 plays turns into 200 plays that every player is supposed to memorize their

00:16:16.460 position what if you just had 20 plays and you just got flawless with those 20 everybody knew

00:16:23.940 their assignment they were extremely efficient in each of those 20 which would be more effective

00:16:28.520 i contend that 20 plays run perfectly will significantly outpace and outperform 100 plays

00:16:36.160 or 200 running both sides of the field, executed at 70%. That's anecdotal. Like I can't give you

00:16:43.820 the evidence behind it other than in my own life, if I focus on a few key things and let the rest

00:16:50.500 kind of go away or become less relevant, it's always more productive than focusing on everything.

00:16:56.880 So the four quadrants that Daryl's talking about is number one, calibration, which is mental,

00:17:04.360 emotional and spiritual health number two is connection that's the relationships that you

00:17:09.840 have with your family friends significant other colleagues clients etc number three is condition

00:17:16.560 physical health so not just getting strong but getting sleep and getting recovery and uh feeling

00:17:22.940 your body correctly and being mobile you know even in my own life i think do i need to focus

00:17:28.440 on strength building sure but what do i need to focus on right now well for me currently in my

00:17:33.040 current state of life, two things, uh, mobility. Cause I feel myself getting tight and sleeping

00:17:38.460 better. That's what I'm focused on right now. And that will improve every aspect of my life.

00:17:43.220 And the fourth is contribution, becoming a man of value, contributing back to your community,

00:17:48.860 uh, building your career, figuring out how to wait, make weight, make opportunity for greater

00:17:55.680 income and greater value to other people. And just giving back as, as a man. So that's a little

00:18:02.740 bit about how we narrow it down. And I'm telling you, you know, when I went through all of the

00:18:07.560 bull crap that I went through, much of which was self-imposed three and a half, three, three and

00:18:12.600 a half years ago, it wasn't because the system doesn't work. It was because I deviated from the

00:18:17.480 system, you know, to go back to that sports analogy. Um, if somebody, if, if let's say it's

00:18:25.220 a pulling guard, you know, it's a sweep to the right, a running play, and it's a pulling guard

00:18:30.000 he's supposed to pull and the running back runs his play the quarterback runs his play

00:18:34.460 all the linemen run their play the receivers draw defensive back so we can get the sweep

00:18:39.660 but the left guard who's supposed to pull to the right doesn't pull to the right

00:18:44.840 is the play defunct no that player is right the play is not wrong the player just missed execution

00:18:55.180 and that's what it is most of the time in life people will say like oh this workout doesn't

00:18:59.980 work well hold on hold on hold on is it the workout that doesn't work like tell me about

00:19:05.360 what you did and people are like i did about 60 okay well then you didn't work or at at work and

00:19:12.420 in your career people say well my boss is a jerk and my client's this and the economy that i'm like

00:19:17.080 well how come that guy's thriving under the same set of circumstances but that guy's not complaining

00:19:22.860 about his boss that guy's not complaining about the economy that guy's bringing in the money

00:19:26.380 what's up with that and you can't explain it you can't you can't figure it out because you're so

00:19:33.200 concerned with the system not working instead of you not working and i think if more of us focused

00:19:42.020 on what we can control and what we can do to make sure we're executing to the nth degree the system

00:19:48.740 would become less relevant i mean i could do anything just about at a hundred percent and

00:19:54.040 produce results so that's how it came down why is the balance so important ryan i mean over the

00:20:01.940 years right you've you've seen guys in the ic that might be doubling down on their careers

00:20:07.020 right but they're neglecting at home do you want to talk through the importance of

00:20:11.580 focusing on all four versus just three or just two and what happens when you do that

00:20:16.520 yeah i mean a lot of guys talk about work-life balance i don't like that term i understand where

00:20:21.880 people are trying to go with that term, but I don't like it because to me, it connotates some

00:20:27.640 sort of end state of being that we're supposed to arrive at. But the problem with that is that

00:20:32.420 life is dynamic. I mean, you're going to get kicked in the proverbial balls sometimes here

00:20:37.720 and there with things that you did not expect. And if you're so rigid in the way that you do things

00:20:43.560 or your perfect idea of balance, you're going to find yourself in a really bad mental position.

00:20:49.960 It's going to impact you mentally. So I think that having a broad, comprehensive approach to

00:20:59.860 the way that you live your life is going to be significantly more valuable because you'll be

00:21:04.620 able to ebb and flow as life happens. For example, my oldest son, he's 17. He's about ready to leave

00:21:13.900 the house and I'm trying to get all the time that I can in with that kid right now. Um, so that I

00:21:21.100 can, I can, you know, have that relationship with him. Like I want to have a relationship with him

00:21:27.920 after he leaves the house. And then there's other times where I might be dealing with some sort of

00:21:32.300 medical issue or struggle that I'm dealing with physically. And it's like, okay, I need to focus

00:21:36.120 on that. Or maybe my relationship is struggling. And so I need to pour more time into that. So

00:21:42.060 I'm not saying you're going to neglect one over the other at all times, but you need to be able

00:21:46.320 to allocate your resources and your time and your energy and attention is finite. It is, it just is.

00:21:53.540 And so we need to be able to adapt on the fly. To go back to that football analogy,

00:21:58.320 if I run a sweep and everything's sealed up to the right, well, I'm going to cut it back in and

00:22:03.140 see if I can create some more yards for us. And if you can't be intelligent and intuitive enough

00:22:08.580 to do that, then you're too rigid in your thinking and you won't get very far.

00:22:12.060 you'll get destroyed because life has a way of knowing what you're trying to do and it will

00:22:17.400 figure it out and it will destroy you unless you can be intuitive about it. Yeah. And I think a

00:22:22.840 lot of guys, probably not the guys in the IC, um, but men in general, they'll neglect one of these

00:22:28.340 areas and it perpetuates and it destroys momentum across all areas. I mean, it's, it's easy. Just

00:22:36.280 find someone that's been through a divorce and say, did that affect your work life? And they're

00:22:41.240 like absolutely it is. Right. So it's like, you can't, there's some danger in neglecting some

00:22:47.920 of these areas, right? If you're neglecting your health, it's going to show up in your

00:22:51.020 productivity at work. If you're neglecting relationships, it's going to show up at

00:22:54.240 productivity at work. Um, and, and so the, the balance in our term, in your term, uh, of the

00:23:01.080 word balance, um, is really important as well. The, and they feed into each other and they create

00:23:06.560 momentum across all four areas absolutely i mean how many guys do you know who are jacked but

00:23:11.340 they're alcoholics or they're or they're divorced you know they're going through a brutal divorce

00:23:15.580 or how many guys do you know who have millions and millions of dollars and they their family

00:23:22.220 hates them like are you are you okay with that i'm not okay with that i'm not saying i don't

00:23:27.700 fall into those temptations or or make those decisions but i'm not okay with it i'm not okay

00:23:33.800 with being incredibly strong physically but being a mental midget that's not okay with me

00:23:39.440 so you know do i look good on the surf that's probably where it lies it's like do i look good

00:23:46.640 to other people yeah that's for the most part right it's like do i have the house do i have

00:23:52.420 the boat do i have the toys do i have the clothes uh do i have the trophy wife uh do i have the

00:23:58.760 biceps or the six-pack and if i have that then everybody else will think i have it figured out

00:24:02.440 but you go to sleep and you cry yourself to sleep on your pillow at night every night because you're

00:24:06.080 fucking miserable cool abs bro how does that help you sleep better but i'm i'm not saying don't have

00:24:13.520 abs i'm saying have abs and have have the mindset too right yeah absolutely yeah yeah all right

00:24:24.220 joshua collins he says this next quarter i'm looking to incorporate a boxing regiment into

00:24:30.220 my workout i have all the necessary material or or or it's on its way but is there any advice you

00:24:36.780 you would give to maximize results for clarification i'm doing it more for cardio

00:24:41.060 and i have a hundred pound punching bag in my basement look i i'm not this is probably not

00:24:47.780 something i'm qualified to talk about but i will say this i'll say this and i feel confident saying

00:24:53.200 this when you start getting into striking i don't know how does he talk about how old he is

00:24:58.620 no he doesn't okay as you get older and you start getting into striking the opportunity for injury

00:25:08.260 at least from where i stand increases significantly so if you're doing it for cardio that's fine but

00:25:15.820 you don't need to beat the shit out of the bag every single day and hurt your elbows or hurt

00:25:20.100 your shoulder or hurt your wrists or your fingers or your knuckles like you don't need to do that

00:25:24.440 so what i would say is just know why you're doing it are you doing it to be billy badass he's going

00:25:31.100 to go fight you know a boxing thing with logan paul or whatever when his jaw recovers or are you

00:25:37.640 doing it because you want to get some cardio and you want to learn how to throw a proper strike i

00:25:42.820 think this is where guys get into trouble not just with martial arts but every aspect of life like

00:25:48.080 are you going in to prove something to somebody or are you going in with a specific goal in mind

00:25:53.920 in this case, cardio. And so I'm not going to injure myself. I wish I would have done that

00:25:59.020 with jujitsu. I injured myself severely because I was trying to go hard without really knowing why

00:26:05.920 I was doing it at 44, almost 45 years old. Now I would not train the same way as I did even

00:26:12.580 eight or nine years ago. I, it's not a thing I would do because I have different goals and

00:26:19.080 objectives and everything that i do whether it's martial arts or anything else is to support my

00:26:24.840 lifelong objectives not be at odds with it so yeah do boxing for sure but learn how to throw the

00:26:33.640 proper punch like don't just go out there and beat the shit out of your bag what what are you doing

00:26:37.440 like you're gonna hurt yourself like get go jump on youtube get get an instructor there's so many

00:26:43.200 free options out there how do you throw a strike how do you throw a punch how do you take care of

00:26:48.060 your elbow or your shoulder or your knuckles when things are feeling bad use that stuff longevity to

00:26:53.840 me is way more important than immediate intense results yeah yeah i totally agree i have a tie

00:27:03.900 bag i mean my first instinct is to tell josh to cash in that boxing that heavy bag and actually

00:27:11.280 get a tie bag instead but yeah but regardless the difference tell the guys what the difference is

00:27:17.060 though so a tie bag is skinnier and you typically want it dragging on the ground so you have leg

00:27:24.380 kicks you can practice leg kicks and most good gyms in my opinion tie bags are dragging so they

00:27:31.460 don't move as much so you want the bottom almost dragging on the ground so it doesn't swing all

00:27:37.360 over the place especially if you're training by yourself um so you get a hundred pound tie bag

00:27:42.320 that's like six feet tall and then that way you get leg kicks and everything else all in play

00:27:48.540 and knees but it's a little bit harder on a boxing bag but anyhow i digress so so josh a couple

00:27:54.800 things or joshua a couple things that come to mind wrap up get wraps don't don't be lazy get

00:28:01.040 wraps protect your knuckles in your hands i agree with ryan don't don't get crazy with like trying

00:28:07.520 to kill the bag focus on technique and if you're doing this for cardio incorporate boxing movement

00:28:16.000 into it right so get your stance right never get on stay on the balls of your feet the entire time

00:28:21.940 work your angles the entire time and then and and keep active with your accommodation so learn

00:28:27.860 combos go through the combos high reps incorporate some burpees in there so you go so many rounds of

00:28:36.180 a certain combination and then five burpees and then get back at it. Another, you know, 20 rounds

00:28:43.220 burpees, get back at it, dude, you'll get a great workout. But I agree with Ryan. The first thing

00:28:50.420 that comes to my mind is do not throw your shoulder out, trying to kill the bag and getting

00:28:57.160 hurt. So wear your wraps, get some good gloves, you know, and, um, and incorporate the cardio in

00:29:03.340 there which is pretty much staying on the balls your feet the entire time like you're in a fight

00:29:06.640 yeah i like the burpee idea you can really do that with anything and i would say i don't know

00:29:12.840 what joshua's level of fitness is you said do five burpees yeah maybe five is good maybe one is good

00:29:17.980 i don't really know his level of fitness but what i would do so i i saw this meme on instagram the

00:29:24.080 other day and i can't exactly remember what it said but it was kind of poking fun at all the

00:29:29.440 sophisticated workout things like workout routines and regimens and then next to it was like

00:29:35.760 lifting heavier than you did last week and like that's it that's the key to fitness yeah

00:29:43.260 just lift do the same workout just lift more than you did like add two and a half pound plates to

00:29:48.800 your bench i promise you'll get stronger and everybody's like well you know you have to do

00:29:53.380 no screw that you just gotta lift heavier than you did last week and the same is true with

00:29:59.020 boxing and burpees so maybe you do one every two minutes every 60 seconds one burpee get up

00:30:05.780 set a 60 second timer punch burpee but then next week you damn well better be doing two burpees

00:30:13.040 every 60 seconds and the next week three and the next week four and the next week five so i would

00:30:17.940 say the only the only minor issue i took with what you're saying is start where you can and then make

00:30:23.520 sure you have room for development and growth that's that's the only thing i would say there

00:30:26.820 yeah well and we miss the most common thing that most guys that most guys miss and it's just being

00:30:32.760 consistent so joshua if you're going to do this if this is the workout every day now every day

00:30:40.380 for 10 minutes every day for 20 minutes whatever that is but every day don't go all hot and heavy

00:30:46.520 and you're like man i got a two-hour boxing session in and then you don't hit it for a week

00:30:52.000 because you overdid it you know what i mean and then you that's not going to benefit you so figure

00:30:57.240 out whatever you can do consistently that's where most of us fell to be honest with you

00:31:00.780 yeah for sure all right derek um call a hand ryan you started order man because you grew

00:31:07.800 up without a strong male role model how has that personally that personal wound

00:31:14.020 shaped the direction of everything that you've built and has it changed

00:31:17.760 i think this goes back to what we were talking about earlier you're you're shaped by everything

00:31:26.460 that you have in life and what a lot of guys will do is they'll self-destruct

00:31:31.860 or they'll be self-aware and they'll say okay this bad thing happened to me

00:31:37.380 and and stuff does happen to you you know we talk a lot about victimhood don't be a victim

00:31:42.760 no there's a difference between victimhood and being a victim or being victimized i've been

00:31:49.000 victimized right i've been taken advantage of i've been manipulated i've been toyed with i've

00:31:53.620 been victimized but i don't fall into victimhood mentality to me those are two different things

00:31:59.060 and so there's a lot of men who have had similar experiences me or even worse than i have who have

00:32:08.000 chosen just because they're victimized to play the victimhood mentality. And I have chosen not

00:32:13.460 to do that. I can't say that I've always been that way, but I've chosen not to be a victim of

00:32:20.420 victimization, if you will. And that's a huge, huge distinction. I know we're using very similar

00:32:26.460 words, slightly different, but that distinction is crucial. So whatever happens to you in life,

00:32:33.820 whether it's self-imposed or existential, you got to choose how you're going to look at it.

00:32:41.160 You know, is this something that I'm going to blame on other people? I'm going to blame this

00:32:44.880 on outside circumstances. Am I going to invest too much weight in things beyond what I can control?

00:32:51.380 Or am I going to say, hey, you know, here's where I messed up or here's where I was dealt a crappy

00:32:57.000 hand, but I can try to make the most of it. Here's how I can improve and get better.

00:33:01.020 um i think the way that it's changed this is really important i want guys to hear this

00:33:05.940 um i used to be really angry with my father like really angry about how he should have done this

00:33:12.800 and how he should have done that and how he should have showed up this way and what he should have

00:33:16.000 done differently and you know i still have some of those things sure it's hard to get over but as i

00:33:21.360 began to claim authority over my own life my appreciation and respect for my father went up

00:33:30.120 and my disdain and frustration with him went down and so what i've noticed as i've taken

00:33:36.380 ownership and authority of my life is that i afford people a lot more grace than i did in the

00:33:43.500 past i see the humanity in people that i didn't that i didn't see before um i i find ways to

00:33:51.880 reconcile relationships when maybe 10 years ago i would have written them off i'm just more human

00:33:58.520 just more empathetic more kind more gracious more understanding more grateful for the things

00:34:03.600 they did rather than the things they didn't do and that's been liberating because I'm not bogged

00:34:11.840 down with my disdain or frustrations towards my father or I'm not frustrated with this one person

00:34:17.860 that did this one thing to me this one time like I don't have time for that I don't know why they

00:34:22.940 did the things they did I don't know why they made the decisions they did but they did and so

00:34:26.980 can I make amends? Can I, I mean, I, I spent, I went on a integrity tour the first quarter of

00:34:33.920 this year, you know, that Kip, it's like being integrity. And I made a bunch of phone calls and

00:34:39.120 sent a bunch of texts where I needed to apologize for behavior. And like, I went on an apology tour

00:34:45.180 in a way. I don't like that. I say integrity tour because apology tour makes it sound as if I'm just

00:34:50.360 apologizing randomly to people who don't deserve an apology from me. But I went on an integrity

00:34:55.060 tour man that was liberating liberating and if more men would do that and not only would you

00:35:02.220 feel better about yourself but you stop doing dumb things because of how painful it is to go

00:35:07.280 on that integrity tour it's not fun it sucks actually yeah i mean the integrity tour is so

00:35:12.860 important because well two things not only are you getting an integrity you're you're telling

00:35:18.400 people where you messed up and you're taking ownership um but you would just stop doing dumb

00:35:23.140 shit because it's painful like it's brutally painful to call somebody up or shoot them a text

00:35:28.480 and say hey i wasn't good to you or i did this thing and that was wrong and i should have done

00:35:34.620 differently and you're gonna get mixed fortunately for me overwhelming neutral to positive responses

00:35:42.460 i would say nothing nothing super negative not actually nothing at all negative like oh yeah

00:35:48.760 you're right you were an asshole no everybody's like you know what thank you that was that was

00:35:53.400 good of you to say that was the most neutral thing i got is like thank you um and then the

00:35:59.000 i actually sent a text to my ex the other day and because um i had a uh i had an interaction

00:36:09.080 over the weekend with um with my son and his lacrosse team and the team didn't my son's team

00:36:16.980 didn't play my oldest son his team didn't play real well and I was I was taking pictures for

00:36:22.520 the team and I was walking back to the car after the game and I ran I just kind of bumped into the

00:36:26.100 opposing team's coach and I said hey coach like good job you guys look good out there good team

00:36:32.400 excited for your season like good luck with everything he's like oh thanks man like and he

00:36:36.500 saw my hurricane hat and he's like are you a coach I said no I'm not a coach I'm just taking pictures

00:36:41.380 for the team and but it gets me close to my boys and I like the game he's like oh that's really

00:36:46.060 cool and he said you know he said i'm really i'm really proud of the way my boys played but man

00:36:51.540 that number 40 kid was a menace out there and i said oh yeah that's that's my son and he's like

00:36:58.280 that kid is unbelievable like the way that he plays he's leading the team like how hard he plays

00:37:04.360 um our our halftime and our breaks revolved around how we were going to contain him

00:37:10.340 and he said and as soon as we shut him down at the net he went the other way and scored the other

00:37:15.700 and he did and then he one time he got hit brecken got hit in the back the goalie came out of the

00:37:21.020 box and he got the ball on a breakaway and the goalie hit him in the back and he fell to his

00:37:26.880 knees and still whipped around and made a shot like it was an incredibly accurate like it was a

00:37:32.260 good shot and the whole sideline was laughing like don't body that kid because you're gonna get like

00:37:36.780 it's not gonna work yeah and so anyways he had just really good things to say about my son

00:37:41.700 and i want everybody to hear this in the past i probably wouldn't have communicated that with my

00:37:50.100 ex um but i think she deserved that because a big part of the way he is is because of her

00:37:59.940 like that's true that's reality like i don't care how she feels about me how i feel about her

00:38:06.340 i don't that doesn't matter the reality is she deserved that compliment maybe more so than i did

00:38:12.040 and so i just sent her a text and i said hey this is what happened and i just wanted to tell you

00:38:16.980 like brecken is the way he is in large part to the way you are and how you show up you're a good mom

00:38:21.600 that was hard that's hard shit to write man when you feel the way that you feel every other day

00:38:28.480 and you still write stuff like that that's not enjoyable but i just kind of feel like that's

00:38:34.160 what we should do as men. And I'm not here to tell you I'm doing it all right. I don't do that

00:38:39.140 all the time. It was just a moment of clarity where I'm like, I got that one right. I did that

00:38:44.220 one right. And I think that more people deserve that from us. Don't you feel there's a massive

00:38:51.840 reduction of weight? Like when we, when we leave things unfinished, there's a weight to it. There's

00:38:59.700 an energy suck to it. Like it, it, you're carrying it with you and there, and when you went on your

00:39:06.380 integrity tour, if you want to use that term, wasn't there just this massive reduction of

00:39:13.400 weight that you were carrying and you just felt more open with more energy. Can you talk through

00:39:20.600 that? Or was that the case? Yeah. I mean, absolutely. You know, all of a sudden, all the

00:39:26.660 things that i'd been fretting and i and i had like there was conversations that i had where i'm like

00:39:30.560 ah i just felt like a jerk man in so many ways i really felt like i hurt other people i let other

00:39:37.600 people down i did things that were self-interested at the expense of others and then when you just

00:39:43.240 say sorry and you just own it like no excuses no like i never i didn't ever say to any of those

00:39:50.640 people and there's probably half a dozen i didn't ever say to them hey here's the reason i did it

00:39:54.920 i did not say that i just said hey i i've actually done this with you kip like there's been moments

00:40:03.780 where i've actually mistreated you and i've called you up and there's like two or three that i can

00:40:10.000 remember and i've called you up and i've said hey man that was not cool i took advantage or i didn't

00:40:17.460 treat you the way that you deserve as a friend to be treated and i'm sorry but sorry's don't come

00:40:23.420 with rationalizations or justifications in my mind yeah it doesn't matter why i did the thing

00:40:29.140 i did i i can under i should get familiar with that right i should know why i did that so that

00:40:34.220 i don't do it again but i don't need to tell you that because that's irrelevant to how you felt

00:40:39.620 and how i treated you so when you do this i think the best way to lift that weight to your question

00:40:46.220 is just to say hey yeah that was fucked i'm sorry i shouldn't have done that and i see now

00:40:55.200 how it impacted you and i see now what i did wrong and you didn't deserve that and i'm sorry

00:41:02.460 that's it not asking for anything from you i don't even say that i that's it i'm sorry period

00:41:11.240 end and i don't in my mind i'm thinking hey you don't owe me anything you don't owe me a response

00:41:17.240 you don't owe me your forgiveness you don't owe me anything i'm not asking i'm not telling them

00:41:21.140 that i'm thinking that in my mind yeah but the last sentence is always i'm sorry you did not

00:41:25.580 deserve that period the end and just let the chips fall where they may but yeah it's liberating to

00:41:31.940 close loops yeah and and it's i just want to call this out man because like we've had this

00:41:37.480 I've had this conversation with some guys in the IC over the years. Right. And the typical scenario is, well, I wish my dad was still alive so I can clean things up with him. And, and I, I could tell him these things and, and they're all, you know, and don't get me wrong. Right. There's some positive intent here, but they're all rooted in, I'm going to do X and then he's going to reply in this way. And then I feel better. That's not what Ryan's talking about. Right.

00:42:05.400 This isn't a game of manipulation where I'm going to vomit my feelings on someone and with some premeditated resentment and expectation that they're going to respond a particular way.

00:42:19.660 I just want to be really clear.

00:42:20.840 That's not what he's talking about.

00:42:22.120 You're owning what you can own, period.

00:42:24.600 You're going to do it regardless of their response.

00:42:28.180 why because the reason why you're doing it is to to own your way of showing up in the world

00:42:35.560 and your integrity not to manipulate or get a particular outcome yeah yep exactly and that's

00:42:44.440 the liberating thing it's actually not liberating if you're waiting for somebody else to respond a

00:42:49.780 certain way because most i would say most of the time they're probably not going to respond the way

00:42:55.820 that you want them to respond you know i had i had a scenario yesterday i made a phone call and i and

00:43:01.080 i i just i told the other person i said hey you know i gotta be honest with you about something

00:43:05.100 here's how i feel and they had said back to me oh thank you for telling me here's how i feel

00:43:12.240 they were on the exact same page as me and i thought it was gonna be i was like oh and they

00:43:18.660 said to me oh was that easier than you thought it would be i said yeah it was a lot easier i was

00:43:24.280 actually dreading this phone call. And they said, no, I actually feel the same way. And today we

00:43:32.560 have a good relationship still because we're just talking and communicating and being honest.

00:43:38.200 So, yeah. All right. Marcus Webb, this is interesting. What's a misconception people

00:43:44.600 have about what order of man actually stands for? And what do you wish more men understood before

00:43:51.720 they dismiss it i think a lot of people on the surface might believe that we're part of the meg

00:43:58.380 tower and cell movement where we hate women and we're the enemy i was the red hill we're the

00:44:04.100 victims of society i hate that i hate that nonsense it's driven by weak-minded people

00:44:10.580 um you know a lot of these guys look the part they've got the cars they've got the abs they've

00:44:15.580 got the there's a new netflix series something about the manosphere inside the manosphere or

00:44:20.320 something like that i've got to watch i've got to watch it because i've heard a lot about it

00:44:23.240 these are guys who are just they're hurt people um they they again they look the part they've got

00:44:30.900 the money they've got the clothes they've got the women they've got the body but they're really hurt

00:44:34.780 inside and they're painting women as the victim and what they don't realize is the thing that

00:44:39.780 they're blaming women on uh feminization the feminist movement in particular they're doing

00:44:45.400 the same thing but reverse yeah just the other side some of these guys are the equivalent of

00:44:50.560 the third or fourth wave feminist movement but for men and yeah society is stacked against men

00:44:57.460 in a lot of ways again we can be realistic and also not be we can be victimized without being

00:45:04.120 victims like i said earlier there are some things stacked against men sure are we should we play

00:45:10.360 into that victimhood mentality no i don't think so how is that going to be conducive to any sort

00:45:14.900 of relationship that men want to have. And what's funny about this is I, I actually listened to a

00:45:19.580 review and an over overview of that, that, um, Netflix thing about the manosphere is they had

00:45:26.820 said that a lot of these guys are actually living counterintuitive to the way that they preach. So

00:45:31.840 they'll say why women are the enemy and why women are horrible and don't settle down and go have

00:45:36.120 sex with a bunch of women and have a bunch of babies, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then

00:45:40.000 you look at their own life and they're married to a woman without any outside without any outside

00:45:46.280 relationships they have kids and it's like okay and they'll even say well we just we're just doing

00:45:50.420 it for the clout they've said that in the in the video itself we're doing it for the clout we're

00:45:53.820 doing it for attention yeah yeah and that's we get lumped into that unfortunately at times

00:45:59.660 and i wish i wish more people knew that we i actually like i like women i respect women i

00:46:08.180 care about women whether it's a significant other or your mom or your sisters or random strangers

00:46:12.940 i have a respect for feminine women i have a respect for where they feel like they've been

00:46:20.520 wronged and i want to create solutions to those problems where men and women can work together

00:46:26.680 now i do that primarily through working on myself to be the kind of man who who could do that but

00:46:33.180 also helping other men be the kind of men who are attractive to the kind of women they're attracted

00:46:38.660 to. So I think there's so much symbiotic relationship between men and women. And

00:46:42.700 oftentimes we get as order of man thrown under the bus of Meg tower and sell or red pill. And

00:46:50.060 we're not, I don't consider myself part of that nonsense. Yeah. Cole merit. You talk about why

00:46:58.380 men can't succeed alone but most men are deeply isolated and don't even know it what's the first

00:47:06.060 step for a man who has no real brotherhood in his life if i like go i i hate i kind of hate this

00:47:16.820 question yeah and maybe maybe i do something about it is the answer i i mean i've i don't i'm not

00:47:24.720 trying to throw coal under the bus by any means, but I've talked about it so much. If you want to

00:47:31.180 do it, if you want to do it locally, you go to the gym, you go to church or you go to business

00:47:37.320 functions. That's it. The gym could be a traditional gym. It could be martial arts.

00:47:44.420 It could be a running or a hiking club, but you go to the gym, you go to church, whatever your

00:47:49.240 churches go to church find good men who believe in a higher power and then business functions

00:47:55.080 rotary chamber of commerce business network international other business organizations

00:48:01.380 trade trade organizations that are in your in your community and that's you just insert yourself

00:48:08.060 into conversations that's it yeah isn't it it's not it's not hard isn't it interesting that it

00:48:13.760 requires you to, to step into a group. It requires you to be doing something to then be associated

00:48:23.380 with that group, right? Like there's no, there's no gym bros without you going to the gym.

00:48:31.300 There's no hanging around spiritual guys without what you being spiritual first.

00:48:36.820 Like, isn't it quite ironic that what is required is what's within your realm of control,

00:48:42.800 which is a beautiful thing because that means you can actually do something about it,

00:48:45.960 but it requires you to lead first. Yeah. Well, what I found is, and I wrote this down as you're

00:48:51.900 saying that, is that you as a man are the common denominator in your life. Yeah. Why is it that

00:48:57.040 some men are always like, oh, all my bosses are jerks or all the women I meet are horrible

00:49:01.860 or I can't get anybody to, like, I can't find good men to build a band of brothers with.

00:49:06.700 why has that always happened to you

00:49:09.000 at some point you got to realize that you're the problem you're the issue and i think a lot of men

00:49:17.180 run around believing that somebody else should do it like somebody else should be should come up to

00:49:25.720 them and say hey come hang out with us or hey come to the fights or hey you know let's do this

00:49:30.460 or ask you on a date that's not how men behave like we don't sit passively by and wait for things

00:49:35.480 to happen, men assert themselves. We go out and manipulate the world, and I'm using that in a

00:49:45.060 positive sense, manipulate the world in a way that works for us, which means that if I'm at work

00:49:51.460 today, I'm going to do it to the nth degree and build a relationship with my boss and help other

00:49:56.300 people. Why? Because that's going to help me get ahead. Manipulation, you think about houses that

00:50:03.900 are being built with, with, with wood that was torn down from trees because men went out and

00:50:09.220 decided, oh, that looks like a good tree. I might be able to build a fort with that. And so we go

00:50:13.480 out, we chop it down and we saw it down and we sand it down and we cut it to size. And then we

00:50:18.380 hammer nails or screws into it with other pieces of wood. We did the same thing too. And all of a

00:50:22.640 sudden you build this beautiful shelter for the woman in your life and the family that you want

00:50:25.900 to build. We manipulate the world again, in the truest, most positive sense of the world to fit

00:50:32.600 what we want. And so if you're like, well, I want to find good men, go out and manipulate the world

00:50:36.480 to find good men, go work it, go where the good men are, talk to them, ask them to hang out,

00:50:42.120 spend time with them, add value to their lives. You know, if you're trying to find a woman,

00:50:46.840 go, go where women are, you know, get on a dating app or ask other people or go to the gym or go to

00:50:52.620 a singles, uh, event in your community or area, go out and insert yourself in the world. You know,

00:50:59.720 i think that's one of the things that separates us as human beings from other animals is some

00:51:06.200 animals will do to a small degree because they'll use tools but for the most part an animal is being

00:51:11.280 acted upon you know when i go out and i hunt a deer the deer is not manipulating the world to

00:51:16.800 bend to its its will a deer is adjusting itself yeah to what the world offers but that's not what

00:51:25.060 human beings do. Human beings see that mountain, they're like, I want to go climb that. Why? I

00:51:29.620 don't know. Because I want to see what's at the top. I want to cut down that tree. Why? I don't

00:51:34.220 know. Because I think I could build something out of it. I want to pull minerals and metal out of

00:51:40.400 the earth and then melt it together to build a tool or an axe head or an arrowhead. Why? I don't

00:51:47.140 know. Because then I can shoot a deer more easily. We manipulate the environment around us. We do not

00:51:53.040 subject ourselves to the environment. And that's one of the things that sets us apart from other

00:51:58.140 animals. Yeah. I love it. All right. Last question for us. Luke Branson,

00:52:05.840 what's the single biggest battle fathers are losing right now with their sons?

00:52:15.300 We're losing them to culture. It's pretty broad. Yeah. But you're losing them to

00:52:22.240 to degenerates yeah music entertainers the school system social friends your social media yeah good

00:52:33.680 one yeah social media we're losing our sons to the doctrine of popular culture and that's driven

00:52:40.080 by satan and satan wants to lead away our youth and we sit idly by in fact not only do we sit

00:52:47.720 idly by we actively participate in it we send our kids to government indoctrination camps every

00:52:54.820 single day and expect that they're going to come back or sweet little boys and girls that we thought

00:52:59.320 we we had well no somebody you've got a you've got a loony teacher with blue hair talking about

00:53:05.440 feminists and lgbtq or whatever and they're just implanting these ideas into your kids brains all

00:53:11.320 day every day and then you see them for what a half an hour at night before you put them to bed

00:53:15.800 yeah with social pressure wrapped around all of that too by the way right the social pressure

00:53:21.080 for sure sense of belonging yeah yeah how are you going to compete i don't have my phone here but

00:53:27.020 how are you going to compete with that digital device if all you do is see your kids half an

00:53:30.780 hour every single day you know as and as a single father it's less than that you know i don't i don't

00:53:36.540 i see my kids half the time but how are you going to compete with what social media is saying how

00:53:40.860 are you going to compete with what the school teachers are saying how are you going to compete

00:53:43.600 with what their peers and friends are saying, unless you're actively involved in very deliberate

00:53:49.800 and intentional ways, you cannot compete with that. And the best that most men do is hope that

00:53:54.860 they're going to be okay. That's the problem. Yeah. Good point, man. Good point. Vigilance.

00:54:04.740 That's my, that's my takeaway today. Vigilance. I feel it right. Vigilance around how we show up

00:54:09.800 as men of integrity, business left unfinished, intentionality with their family, intentionality

00:54:16.360 in the four quadrants, um, of the battle plan. I mean, it's, and, and the good message is

00:54:23.440 that you said just a second ago, if we're the problem, then we're the solution. And that's

00:54:30.660 a good message because all you have to do is start making necessary adjustments. Right. And,

00:54:35.700 and it's within your realm of control um another thing that's in your realm of control is to join

00:54:40.400 us for the men's forge coming up april 23rd through the 26th uh to learn more about that event

00:54:47.100 uh go to themensforge.com um you have a headline of speakers who do you have uh presenting at the

00:54:54.880 at the event do you want to kind of go through those yeah so duane noel is coming out uh dry

00:55:01.400 Creek Wrangler School. Incredible, incredible human with a lot of wisdom to share. A little

00:55:06.620 different than you might think with our standard demographic, but he's going to be amazing.

00:55:13.000 We've got Larry Hagner with the Dad Edge. We've got Frank Schwartz. He goes by Dark Helmet with

00:55:18.320 F3. GS Youngblood, myself will be out there. Kip, you'll be out there speaking as well.

00:55:24.220 Brandon Mancine with the Iron Council will be out there. So we've got some incredible

00:55:27.880 people coming out to speak and pour into the guys who are going to be there and i just i can't wait

00:55:32.900 man it's going to be so exciting and so that's coming up april 23rd through 26th go to themensforge.com

00:55:38.960 okay awesome brother all right guys well that's all we've got for you today um if you have any

00:55:45.940 other questions that you want to post to us please join our facebook group uh join us in on my

00:55:51.540 instagram channel at ryan mickler but outside of that guys go out there take action and become a

00:55:56.060 man you are meant to be. Thank you for listening to the Order of Man podcast. You're ready to take

00:56:01.720 charge of your life and be more of the man you were meant to be. We invite you to join the order

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Order of Man - March 25, 2026

Closing Uncommunicated Loops, Building an Integrity Tour, and Developing a Value System ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

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