Order of Man - November 19, 2025


Commander's Intent, Self-Awareness, and Re-Writing Your Script ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

Topics
how to manage trust and delegation self-awareness dealing with internal dialogue new year's resolutions goals and tactics tracking and goal achievement daily discipline systems accountability
Hosted by
Ryan Michler
Mentioned
Ryan Mickler Jeremy Kofi Simon Sinek Nick Taylor Julian Jonathan Van Kooten Craig Ballantyne William Pinnell Erdi Arslan Hey Kip Birkenstocks Sepulveda Screw Alan
PAYAM PAKMANESH ｜ The Rules of Male Conversation You Aren't Defined by the Dust and Rust ｜ FRIDAY FIELD NOTES

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In this episode, I sit down with my brother, Kip, to talk about the importance of goal setting in a community and how it can be applied to your organization. We talk about how to find people who are already aligned with your vision and why it's important to have people in your organization who are on the same page as you.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 Imagine you're really excited for a new movie that's about to come out.
00:00:04.300 And you start watching the movie, and it's horrible.
00:00:06.860 The plot is brutal.
00:00:08.600 The character development is weak. 1.00
00:00:11.260 The script is just garbage. 0.81
00:00:13.260 And you walk out, and you just can't help but be so disappointed and frustrated 0.99
00:00:17.740 and even angry about how bad this movie is.
00:00:20.940 And then imagine that you realize,
00:00:23.980 oh, I'm the one who wrote the movie.
00:00:26.340 And you're mad because the movie stunk.
00:00:29.340 Well, yeah, because it was your movie.
00:00:32.840 Kip, what's up, brother?
00:00:33.940 Thanks for being flexible on the time that we connect.
00:00:36.880 I just did a conversation with Craig Ballantyne that released yesterday.
00:00:41.680 And we talked about this whole idea of discipline
00:00:44.820 and making sure that our systems are structured.
00:00:47.800 But one thing I've seen a lot of people do is that
00:00:50.900 if they're overly structured or too rigid in their systems and their planning,
00:00:56.380 then when things come up, like having to change the schedule,
00:00:59.340 they crumble and everything falls apart around them.
00:01:02.040 So I'm trying to figure out how to be disciplined and committed to a system,
00:01:06.060 but also have enough freedom, flexibility, and agility built in
00:01:10.120 that things don't just fall apart around me if I have to change some things around.
00:01:14.420 Yeah.
00:01:15.140 Well, and those systems are so great for processes
00:01:18.520 and for things within our realm of control.
00:01:20.700 They completely fall apart when it comes to people.
00:01:24.260 Yeah.
00:01:25.220 Yeah.
00:01:25.860 And outside our family.
00:01:28.260 Yep.
00:01:28.920 Family, friends, employees, they're not going to fit into a system.
00:01:34.300 And if they do, then that means something.
00:01:37.000 Oh, got it.
00:01:38.140 Ryan's unavailable.
00:01:39.220 I have to get into the system to be able to have him support me.
00:01:43.340 Right.
00:01:43.600 Like it's, it's funny, right?
00:01:45.220 It's great for systems, not ideal for humans.
00:01:47.480 I, um, I actually ran into this a lot when I was doing financial planning more than a
00:01:53.500 decade ago at this point.
00:01:55.000 And people would come in with their financial plan that an advisor put together for them.
00:02:00.040 And it was, they were amazing.
00:02:01.520 They were impeccable.
00:02:02.780 They looked great and they were on track to hit the retirement goals and they'd be making
00:02:06.860 more money in retirement than they were in their working years.
00:02:10.260 And they looked really good.
00:02:11.380 And then I started going through them and I just introduced a few variables.
00:02:15.300 Like what happens if you become disabled and you can't work for two years?
00:02:21.340 What happens if you get sued and somebody, you know, goes after some of this wealth?
00:02:26.800 What happens if you lose 20 to 30% in the stock market one year, which is possible?
00:02:31.520 Uh, all these things that come up and all of a sudden these magical plans would just crumble
00:02:36.660 under the slightest pressure.
00:02:38.440 So I really think it's important to, yeah, build systems, but know that it's not going
00:02:43.880 to be perfect.
00:02:44.660 It's not always going to be the best.
00:02:46.820 It needs to take into consideration that things are going to come up and you don't know what
00:02:52.500 they're going to be or when they're going to happen, but they will.
00:02:55.340 And I think that'll tie in nicely to the topic of today, which is goal setting, new year's
00:02:59.420 resolutions, that sort of thing.
00:03:01.020 So let's hop into it, man.
00:03:03.320 Yeah, absolutely.
00:03:04.940 Erdi Arslan, what's your way of thinking when it comes to setting goals for a community?
00:03:09.980 As dance teachers, me and my wife have a community that we have created.
00:03:15.100 We try to nurture and grow it at the same time, but surely there are some external limitations
00:03:20.040 to that, even about finding new people in a small city.
00:03:22.980 So the answer could be either in general ways of community work goal setting or dealing
00:03:28.240 with constraints about that.
00:03:31.280 Well, a couple of things come to mind when you're talking about goal setting for a group
00:03:35.520 of people, which you have to do in this setting or work or even family.
00:03:39.640 There has to be these overarching broad goals.
00:03:43.700 So two things that come to mind immediately for me, to the extent that you can always find
00:03:49.060 people who are already pretty aligned with the way that you see things.
00:03:54.020 Because if you have to convince people that your mission or your movement or your thing
00:03:59.400 is what's right and what's good, that just takes away from your ability to implement and
00:04:05.120 start moving the needle in the right direction.
00:04:07.200 It also could create a whole lot of discontent and potentially even toxic relationships, conversations
00:04:15.000 and fallout within your organization.
00:04:16.920 If you bring somebody in who's completely misaligned with your perspectives and objectives as the
00:04:23.680 leader of this community you're talking about or your organization, it's your vision that
00:04:28.800 needs to be met and everybody else needs to come to that, not the other way around.
00:04:33.400 So that's the first thing that comes to mind for me.
00:04:35.500 The second thing, and I don't really want to steal too much of your thunder because I imagine
00:04:40.400 you're probably going to hit on this a little bit, but I believe that you really need to get
00:04:44.900 people involved in the process of goal setting, planning, thinking, strategizing, considering
00:04:52.820 what fallout or what circumstances might derail you.
00:04:58.080 Because when you do that, you'll get buy-in from them as opposed to just being dictated
00:05:03.580 to, hey, do this, do this, do this, do this, do this.
00:05:06.520 One thing I used to do, even with Order of Man and the Iron Council and you and other leaders
00:05:10.980 helped me see the errors of my ways is I always, I would come up with a new initiative or a directive
00:05:18.240 and I would share it with the guys thinking, hey, this is going to be a great thing.
00:05:22.400 And in my mind, it was going to be a great thing.
00:05:24.860 I was convinced that it would be a good thing.
00:05:27.780 And nobody bought into it, not because it wasn't a good thing, but because they didn't
00:05:34.120 know why they were doing it.
00:05:36.060 I knew why.
00:05:37.340 I was very clear about why this is going to be a good thing in the long run, but they didn't.
00:05:42.360 They just saw it as a new directive that is at odds with their own schedules, is at odds with
00:05:48.920 the way they currently do things, at odds with their level of comfort, at odds with their current
00:05:54.640 skill set.
00:05:56.080 And so it looked more like a headache for no potential return than it did a great opportunity
00:06:01.160 to grow and evolve and get better.
00:06:03.480 So I've really had to learn how to not only give people directives and cast vision, but share the
00:06:09.660 why behind it.
00:06:10.780 And I feel like when they have the why, sure, they can ask questions and they can explore
00:06:15.920 and uncover and discover.
00:06:17.220 But unless we share that why, I don't think you're going to get the same level of buy-in
00:06:22.320 from people.
00:06:24.100 Yeah.
00:06:24.580 What I love about that is that the why also is another way of saying, what is the outcome?
00:06:31.600 And when I'm bought into the outcome, Ryan, then I can make necessary pivots along the way
00:06:36.880 without you having to manage me.
00:06:40.780 So when we, I use this acronym BAR, B-A-R, behaviors, accomplishments, and the results.
00:06:50.820 And if we can delegate to the results area, don't delegate behaviors and accomplishments,
00:06:57.120 right?
00:06:57.380 For managing behaviors, that's kind of in the form of micromanagement.
00:07:01.300 Now, in some cases, if we can't extend trust to certain individuals, we manage behavior,
00:07:05.800 right?
00:07:06.280 In other cases, we might delegate the outcomes of accomplishments.
00:07:11.920 And then in an ideal state, we delegate the outcomes of the results themselves.
00:07:16.840 And then that way, people get autonomy on around how they get there and they can make the necessary
00:07:22.700 pivots, right?
00:07:23.380 It's a, what's Jocko call that?
00:07:25.360 The commander's intent.
00:07:27.120 Commander's intent.
00:07:27.840 I just wrote that down.
00:07:29.040 Yeah, it allows people to pivot and adjust necessarily without you having to manage them.
00:07:36.620 Well, one thing you said too, is that if you're having to coach or micromanage trust, that's
00:07:42.480 a you problem.
00:07:43.900 That means you have the wrong person in your organization.
00:07:47.120 If you can't trust somebody, well, one of two things is happening.
00:07:51.080 First is they're not a trustable person.
00:07:53.060 And that person doesn't belong in your organization to you have never given them the tools or the
00:07:59.700 abilities or the skill or even the, the margin to be able to prove themselves that they can
00:08:05.900 do it and be a valuable member of the team because you're so busy doing everything and
00:08:11.400 micromanaging every little, little aspect of it.
00:08:14.340 You know, there's another thing too, Kip, that comes to mind is I'm just fleshing this
00:08:19.880 out a little in my mind so you guys can listen to me think for a second.
00:08:24.340 I think the, how we do things might just be as if not more important than the, what we
00:08:30.680 do.
00:08:32.500 And I'm realizing that more and more as, as I get older and try to achieve greater results
00:08:39.820 with more efficient methods, the way that you do something matters.
00:08:44.520 If I go to the gym and I show up haphazardly, not really prepared, I don't really have my
00:08:52.700 workout plan scheduled.
00:08:54.460 I slept like garbage the night before, didn't feel my body properly before I got to the gym.
00:09:01.060 I mean, I could go to the, I could work, I could work hard.
00:09:03.560 I could definitely get a sweat going, but is it going to produce the result that I desire?
00:09:08.140 On the other hand, if I sleep properly the night before I lay my clothes out ready by
00:09:14.640 the bed, I feel myself properly before I go to the gym, I have my workout ready.
00:09:20.040 I decide that I'm going to do every little element of that workout, including my rest
00:09:24.220 times and proper form to the nth degree, that workout in the same amount of time is going
00:09:29.980 to produce a drastically better result than just going through the motions.
00:09:35.540 And so when it comes to an organization, you want people who cherish the how of the way
00:09:44.080 they work.
00:09:45.400 I want somebody who takes pride in their work.
00:09:48.020 I want somebody who takes it to the highest level.
00:09:51.000 I want somebody who's thoughtful, thoughtful about the way that they show up, not just trying
00:09:56.100 to rush through it, not just trying to get it done, not just trying to get the bare minimum
00:09:59.360 product out there, but do it as masterfully as they possibly can.
00:10:04.060 So I think the, I think the how, again, is just as important, if not more important than
00:10:09.020 the, what you're actually doing.
00:10:11.380 And, and to tie this all in the, why is what drives the how.
00:10:18.180 And I don't think we can fake intent, right?
00:10:21.880 You couldn't enlist a community in this ambitious idea that gives back to the community and everything
00:10:29.680 and be faking it.
00:10:32.340 You, you can't lead people and be faking your genuine care for their growth and development.
00:10:38.960 That, that why has to be real.
00:10:41.780 And it's, and here's the tough part about this, Ryan.
00:10:44.560 And I was, I was thinking about this just like a couple of days ago is no leader in their
00:10:50.860 right mind will argue with a good why.
00:10:53.060 Because it, it makes them look bad, right?
00:10:56.980 Like I would never say, you know, care for those you lead.
00:11:00.620 No leader would be like, no, no, I don't think so.
00:11:02.900 Right.
00:11:03.240 They're all would give it mouth service.
00:11:05.100 Oh, absolutely.
00:11:07.020 Yeah, of course we should.
00:11:08.720 But deep down, if they don't believe it, people sniff that out.
00:11:14.580 So self-awareness, obviously being critical, but that why has to be real.
00:11:20.040 It has to be real for you as, as a leader, as someone driving a movement. 0.68
00:11:24.980 Otherwise, um, people sense it and, and they'll call bullshit on it.
00:11:30.860 This is why I love Simon Sinek's book, start with why, which is probably eight, nine, 10 years
00:11:35.380 old at this point.
00:11:36.160 Um, usually the way people will approach their work or their, their, um, goals and ambitions
00:11:44.320 is the, the what, then the how, then the why.
00:11:47.620 So I'm going to do this and I'm going to do it this way.
00:11:51.480 And here's why I think I should do it that way.
00:11:54.140 And Simon Sinek flips out on his head.
00:11:56.360 He says, no, start with the why, then the how, then the what.
00:11:59.720 So for example, with order of man, the proper, proper order of this, the why is I don't want
00:12:07.420 men to suffer.
00:12:08.680 I don't want men to wander around aimlessly.
00:12:11.740 I don't want them to buy into the doctrine of popular culture that says that they need
00:12:16.360 to be less manly.
00:12:18.320 I don't want them to suffer in their relationships.
00:12:21.140 I don't want them to suffer financially.
00:12:23.020 I don't want young boys to grow up not knowing who their fathers were.
00:12:27.500 I don't want young boys growing up being taught by a feminized culture, what it means to be 1.00
00:12:32.700 a man and then feel inadequate and inferior as they become older.
00:12:36.840 Because I, I felt all of those things.
00:12:39.100 I suffered from those things.
00:12:40.500 And in some ways I still do.
00:12:42.220 That's the why behind reclaiming and restoring masculinity, which is our mission. 0.97
00:12:46.620 The how is we're going to give the men tools, resources, conversations, instruction,
00:12:54.240 and accountability in order to help them become more of the men that they are meant to be.
00:13:00.000 And the what is let's do this podcast.
00:13:03.700 Let's do an event.
00:13:05.620 Let's partner with these people.
00:13:07.580 Let's put together this course.
00:13:09.500 Let's build this program.
00:13:12.240 But all of that stuff happened after it.
00:13:15.000 It's just putting the cart before the horse to do it any other way and say, I want to sell
00:13:19.060 this widget and now I'm going to think about how I'm going to do it and why it's important.
00:13:25.060 Well, if it's just a widget, it may not actually be really that important to you.
00:13:29.100 And if it's not important to you, other than making money from doing it, it's really not
00:13:32.740 going to be important to anybody else.
00:13:34.540 So this is why that, why, how, what method works so well.
00:13:40.580 Jeremy Coffey.
00:13:41.620 What does your internal dialogue sound like when you're at your lowest and how do you
00:13:46.760 control or deal with that voice?
00:13:52.420 Right or wrong.
00:13:56.040 My sense of identity is tied up in what I produce.
00:14:02.760 Now that is dangerous in a way because there might come a point in time where I can't produce
00:14:11.180 the way that I want to.
00:14:13.060 So for example, if I lose the ability to speak, that's going to be rough.
00:14:18.640 Identity crisis.
00:14:19.460 It's for sure.
00:14:21.180 So, and I'm fully aware of that, fully aware of that, but it's a risk I'm willing to take
00:14:26.740 because it propels me to take action when I don't want to, because I want to be valuable.
00:14:34.180 I want to serve other people.
00:14:36.740 I want to feel good about the products and the production that I'm putting into the world.
00:14:42.880 And that means that sometimes I'm going to have to do stuff, even if I don't want to do it.
00:14:48.160 And if I don't do it when I don't feel like I want to, then my identity, there's, there
00:14:53.200 is an identity crisis there.
00:14:54.480 I'm not being the man that I think I'm capable of becoming. 0.99
00:14:59.440 I'm being a loser. 0.98
00:15:01.080 I'm being weak. 1.00
00:15:02.160 I'm being cowardly. 0.99
00:15:03.340 I'm being pathetic. 0.97
00:15:04.580 And again, there's a dangerous slippery slope to that, but that has helped me move forward, 0.91
00:15:10.980 even though I may not always feel like it, even though I might be afraid.
00:15:15.360 And then there's another, there's another, um, mantra or mindset is if there's one thing
00:15:26.880 that I feel like I'm really good at it's, and it's because I think it's so important is
00:15:32.540 that we have a moral duty and obligation to act, to put into existence, the ideas that
00:15:42.360 are in our heads.
00:15:43.700 And if we don't, because we're over analytical or we're being lazy or we're being cowardly,
00:15:50.880 then we're slapping our creator in the face saying, you gave me this idea.
00:15:57.740 You influenced me to do this.
00:15:59.460 There's a reason you're, you're revealing to me that this is so important, not just for
00:16:05.260 me, but the other people I'll serve, but I don't really feel like it.
00:16:08.500 And that doesn't sit well with me.
00:16:11.720 So those are some of my mindsets that have served me well.
00:16:15.440 Got it.
00:16:16.340 You know, I'm going to jump to Jeremy's second part of his question, right?
00:16:19.740 Dealing with that voice.
00:16:21.480 I think for me, it's, I mean, obvious it goes without saying, but man, it, I read the statistic
00:16:29.100 that like over, I think it's like 80% of people would classify themselves as being self-aware.
00:16:36.220 And it's actually only like 10% that actually are.
00:16:39.760 So we kind of have to start there that, that one, my dialogue that we're talking about here,
00:16:46.700 Jeremy is mine.
00:16:48.200 I created it.
00:16:50.460 I'm choosing it as an agreement of, of reality and it's actually not.
00:16:55.160 And so dealing with that voice, I, I think that the most powerful thing that we can do
00:17:00.620 is one, be aware of it, be present to it.
00:17:03.880 That usually my upset in the moment, my anger in the moment or whatever it is, that it's
00:17:11.340 a result of some type of mindset or thought process, figure out what it is, and then separate
00:17:17.860 my interpretation from the facts.
00:17:21.520 And usually they're different, right?
00:17:24.460 And the, the way I like to explain this is lens, Ryan, both of us, both of us snowboarded
00:17:31.720 at one point or skied in our, in our, I'm not sure if you're still, if, if we're in the space
00:17:36.640 where we're still snowboarding, I don't know, every year I'm like a little bit like, but I,
00:17:40.540 but I do like less interested as I get older, but, but nonetheless, um, you know, I put,
00:17:47.200 we put the goggles on right at, at, at 9am when you jump on the slopes and within hours,
00:17:53.840 the way by which you see the mountain is now your reality.
00:17:57.900 You, you've lost sight that you have goggles on.
00:18:00.940 You don't even think you have goggles on until there's a moment where you lift the goggles
00:18:05.560 up and you're like, Oh my gosh, it's so bright.
00:18:08.080 Or the mountain looks way blue now or whatever.
00:18:10.940 And you're like, and it's crazy that that's how we do life is events happen.
00:18:17.280 And we put on goggles, we put on lenses, different colors of lenses, and we think that's truth.
00:18:22.780 And so Jeremy, for me to deal with the voice is to get clear on the lens,
00:18:28.520 get clear on the goggles that I have on and say, okay, is, is this serving me?
00:18:33.440 Is this internal voice serving me or is it not serving me?
00:18:35.940 Is it true?
00:18:37.180 Right.
00:18:37.620 And evaluating how I'm going to deal with it.
00:18:42.120 Kip, I was thinking about an analogy as, as you were talking about this,
00:18:46.340 imagine you're, you're really excited for a new movie that's about to come out
00:18:50.440 and you want to go watch it on the big screen because you're, you've got high expectations
00:18:56.380 and you're just so excited about it.
00:18:58.080 And so you get tickets and you get the VIP theater and the reclining, massaging leather seats,
00:19:04.240 and you're just ready to go.
00:19:05.440 And you get there and you start watching the movie and it's horrible.
00:19:09.940 The, the, the, the, the, the plot is brutal since the seventies.
00:19:14.200 Yeah.
00:19:14.880 Yeah.
00:19:16.280 The character development is, is weak.
00:19:19.060 Uh, the script is just garbage and you get done with the movie and you walk out and you just 0.60
00:19:26.900 can't help but be so disappointed and frustrated and even angry about how bad this movie is. 0.81
00:19:32.960 And then imagine that you realize, Oh, I'm the one who wrote the screenplay.
00:19:42.300 That was my character development.
00:19:44.540 Those were, that was my script.
00:19:46.960 That was the plot that I came up with.
00:19:49.460 And you're mad because the movie stunk.
00:19:53.920 Well, yeah, because it was your movie.
00:19:57.220 And it is interesting when people get so upset about their lives, like, Oh, everybody's out
00:20:02.540 to get me and this is wrong and this is horrible.
00:20:05.460 And I can't believe I have to deal with this.
00:20:07.060 And this person did that.
00:20:08.220 And my economic economic status is, is bad.
00:20:11.880 Like everything, but taking responsibility, everything, but saying, you know what?
00:20:18.180 I wrote a bad movie.
00:20:20.140 Let me go back to the drawing board.
00:20:22.480 Let me work out the characters and figure out who I want to be in this movie.
00:20:27.440 Let me, let me work out the plot.
00:20:29.520 Like what are the goal?
00:20:30.560 What was, what's the goal?
00:20:31.700 What's the highs and the lows and the tensions and the ambitions.
00:20:34.260 Let me work out the script, the words that people operate by the rules that you're going
00:20:39.600 to live your life by.
00:20:41.220 And through time and patience and practice and implementation and feedback, you end up
00:20:45.800 becoming a better writer.
00:20:48.760 That's what your life is.
00:20:50.300 You are the, you are the writer of the script.
00:20:52.520 That's your screenplay.
00:20:54.720 Make sure it's the one you want to watch.
00:20:57.280 Yeah.
00:20:59.980 William Pinnell, Kip and Ryan.
00:21:02.600 Do you find any validity in new year's resolutions?
00:21:06.480 Do you feel like a person could use a new year's resolution to change or could there be
00:21:10.420 any advantage of waiting until new year's instead of getting after it today?
00:21:16.940 I don't think there's any advantage in waiting for an arbitrary date in time to achieve your
00:21:23.360 goals.
00:21:23.840 Now there are benefits and one of the benefits is that there's financial benefits if you
00:21:29.920 start because certain companies and products are on sale and whatever else that might help
00:21:33.780 you.
00:21:34.000 So there's that.
00:21:34.680 Yeah, that's true.
00:21:35.380 There's also the social pressure in a good way because everybody else is doing it.
00:21:40.860 So there might be some opportunities for accountability and commitment to doing this with somebody
00:21:48.020 else.
00:21:48.400 So those are added benefits.
00:21:51.040 I used to, I used to mock new year's resolutions. 1.00
00:21:54.800 Like these are stupid. 1.00
00:21:55.920 People are dumb. 1.00
00:21:56.680 I guess you shouldn't do that. 1.00
00:21:57.840 And somebody had made a comment on a social media post one day and they said, well, why
00:22:02.340 are you, aren't you like a self-development organization?
00:22:06.560 Why are you mad that people are creating goals just because it happens to fall on new year's?
00:22:11.700 I'm like, yeah, that's a good point.
00:22:13.980 And they had said something like, yeah, they had said something along the, along the lines
00:22:19.080 of if, if it's new year, if it takes one day, new year's to motivate these people to
00:22:25.240 have a goal, what, what's the problem with that?
00:22:28.040 And in reflection, I'm like, yeah, that's, that's accurate.
00:22:31.240 Now that said, don't wait.
00:22:33.880 It's November 10th.
00:22:35.180 As of the, as of you and I recording, I think this one comes out maybe next week.
00:22:39.840 Like, uh, you don't, you don't need to wait until new year's just do it now.
00:22:46.620 And everybody will say, well, you know, like the holidays, I don't want to do my diet and
00:22:51.840 people are taking off work and, you know, we have these trips and things planned.
00:22:56.880 Okay.
00:22:57.280 Do you think that January isn't going to be busy?
00:23:00.980 Yeah.
00:23:01.380 Do you think that you aren't going to be tempted to eat like garbage in January or that there
00:23:05.160 aren't going to be people who, um, want your time and attention and energy or that you're
00:23:09.360 not going to want to go on vacation in January, the same that you do in November and December.
00:23:14.660 Anytime you rationalize and justify it, you're, you're doing it because you've already made
00:23:21.020 up your mind that you don't want to do the thing that you say you want to do.
00:23:27.040 That's it.
00:23:27.880 There's no other reason. 0.99
00:23:29.220 So either be honest and say, I don't want to do it or stop lying and get your butt in
00:23:41.040 gear and get going right now, today, this moment.
00:23:43.900 And yeah, you're going to have to avoid some sugary snacks and overeating.
00:23:48.520 And yeah, you know, you're going to have to take a few days off of work because of Thanksgiving
00:23:53.060 and Christmas and all the other things.
00:23:55.240 So what you can, you can still contrary to popular opinion.
00:23:59.360 You can still lose weight in December.
00:24:02.780 You can still make more money in December than you did in, in July.
00:24:07.420 It's just a narrative to go back to what we were saying earlier that you've created and
00:24:11.880 everybody else has bought into it.
00:24:13.540 And because everybody else buys into it, you think, well, you know, this is just the way
00:24:17.140 it's done.
00:24:17.580 Yeah.
00:24:17.880 Maybe for them, but I don't want to be like those people.
00:24:20.320 So yeah, I have bigger goals and dreams and ambitions and I'm going to do something about
00:24:24.720 it.
00:24:26.260 Even in December, just test it out.
00:24:28.340 Yeah.
00:24:28.740 Just test it out.
00:24:30.080 Are you better off if you acted on those things now?
00:24:33.340 And the answer is yes.
00:24:35.480 So why wait?
00:24:37.180 Just test it out.
00:24:38.520 It's yeah, not, I truly agree.
00:24:41.000 All right.
00:24:41.660 So I say, don't wait, keep going.
00:24:43.320 But also if it's new year's that compels you, then that's good too.
00:24:47.160 I have no issue with that.
00:24:48.020 Yeah.
00:24:48.440 Yeah.
00:24:48.840 Wherever you get your inspiration, get it right.
00:24:51.700 All right.
00:24:52.440 Jonathan Van Kooten.
00:24:54.520 When setting goals for yourself, how do you balance easy goals that allow you to see a
00:24:59.160 rapid success and difficult long-term goals that you will see success over time?
00:25:04.680 I tend to get discouraged when it's difficult to see the needle move on a goal and I'm working
00:25:09.380 towards.
00:25:11.140 Well, I think it's really important to differentiate between what I call an objective that would be
00:25:16.680 synonymous with goal and what I would call a tactic.
00:25:20.700 So a tactic is done in the micro.
00:25:24.100 So a tactic, for example, might be record this podcast today.
00:25:27.700 That's the tactic.
00:25:29.320 That's the thing I'm actually doing.
00:25:31.400 And it's worth celebrating, you know, hey, we have a good podcast.
00:25:35.180 We did our work.
00:25:36.380 You and I, Kip, we had to change our schedules around to make it work.
00:25:39.300 So we built in some flexibility and we got it done nonetheless.
00:25:42.560 And that's worth a little mini celebration.
00:25:45.520 You know, we don't need to go out to lunch and, you know, spend the bankroll, but we can be proud
00:25:50.820 that we adjusted and we got this done.
00:25:52.900 And that moves the needle. 0.89
00:25:55.880 That's a tactic.
00:25:57.520 An objective might be we want to grow the podcast in the next quarter by an additional 10%
00:26:04.920 listenership.
00:26:06.880 That's the objective.
00:26:08.120 Now, we can't do that today.
00:26:09.340 That might take us the quarter or six months or maybe even a year, but that's what we're
00:26:13.680 working towards.
00:26:14.600 And then we backfill it with a tactic, which is to record these podcasts every week, to
00:26:20.340 improve our audio and video quality, to secure more interesting and unique guests, to be
00:26:30.140 more prepared to have these kind of conversations, to focus on more relevant topics that are interesting
00:26:35.640 to people.
00:26:36.660 Those are all tactical things, but the objective is something that's a little bit more long-term.
00:26:42.380 What do you think about that, Kip?
00:26:43.400 Does that make sense, that differentiation?
00:26:46.060 Yeah, it totally makes sense.
00:26:47.500 And what I love about it is you just answered both, right?
00:26:50.600 It's one in the same, right?
00:26:52.840 You identify the long-term, but if you're not breaking down the long-term into tactics,
00:26:57.060 then you are going to steam out, right?
00:26:59.540 It's like, you know, objective, run marathon.
00:27:02.960 And it's like, okay, run marathon.
00:27:04.240 And it's like, oh, I'm not running it.
00:27:05.760 I'm not hitting it.
00:27:06.460 Well, where should I be in four weeks?
00:27:08.700 Where should I be in eight weeks?
00:27:10.340 What distance should I be achieving?
00:27:11.640 If you don't break it down, one, you're probably success rate drastically goes down,
00:27:16.800 but you can celebrate and have the momentum in the progression of the breakdown of the
00:27:22.360 long-term goal.
00:27:25.000 Yeah.
00:27:25.440 I mean, one thing I'm working on to go back to our previous question is this quarter is
00:27:31.820 to lose 15 pounds, but also build muscle mass at the same time.
00:27:37.840 And I track everything to the nth degree.
00:27:41.400 I don't believe a person can squeeze out every ounce of productivity and efficiency unless
00:27:46.060 they're tracking every little aspect of it.
00:27:48.360 And the more that a person tracks, the more likely it is that he's going to do the behaviors
00:27:52.960 that are going to help him accomplish the objective.
00:27:55.060 So I have a weight tracker as a spreadsheet I built, and it shows me losing how much I
00:28:02.240 want to lose.
00:28:02.700 These are my target weights, how much I want to lose per day.
00:28:05.460 I have it down to per day.
00:28:07.480 Got it.
00:28:07.980 And then I have another column that measures my body fat percentage, water weight, bone
00:28:13.200 density, and muscle mass.
00:28:14.880 And it's not perfect.
00:28:16.140 It's a scale.
00:28:17.020 It's by Garmin.
00:28:17.960 Um, and every day I get on the scale and I write those numbers down every single day,
00:28:24.420 just the, just the act of tracking.
00:28:27.620 And then the other thing I do in my phone is I use my fitness pal and I track ruthlessly.
00:28:33.620 I track everything that I'm eating.
00:28:36.720 I put it in there.
00:28:37.880 And those two things, those two simple things really keep my mind focused on what I want to
00:28:43.920 accomplish, knowing that the objective, the thing that, you know, losing 15 pounds, it's
00:28:49.600 not going to happen today.
00:28:50.940 Could I lose 0.1 pound today?
00:28:52.920 Maybe, but I'm not going to lose it 15 pounds immediately.
00:28:57.300 It's going to take some time.
00:28:58.440 So that, that helps me stay on track and stay on point and then make pivots as it just as
00:29:03.160 necessary.
00:29:04.580 Yeah, totally.
00:29:05.440 All right.
00:29:07.300 Julian, uh, Sepulveda, is it smart to prioritize certain life quadrants?
00:29:13.920 Such as health and finance at the start of the year, since nailing them can fuel momentum
00:29:19.440 for the rest.
00:29:24.580 Is it smart to start certain aspects of your life early?
00:29:28.940 No.
00:29:29.480 I mean, yes, sure.
00:29:32.220 Yes, it is smart to do that, but not for the reason you're saying it's just smart to do
00:29:38.040 that because that's what you ought to be doing.
00:29:40.020 And you should do it at the beginning of the year, the middle of the year and the end of
00:29:45.140 the year.
00:29:46.000 So when we work with the men who come and do our, our system and our organization, we
00:29:52.240 teach them four quadrants.
00:29:53.900 And those four quadrants are calibration, getting right with yourself mentally, spiritually, and
00:30:00.000 emotionally connection, which is the relationships that you have with other people condition,
00:30:05.760 which is your physical health, like Julian mentioned.
00:30:08.340 And then the last is contribution, becoming a man of value finances ties into that as well.
00:30:14.480 So we focus on all four of those every single day, not just the beginning of the year.
00:30:20.320 Now, what you do in the next month or two might not be as grand as what you can accomplish
00:30:24.860 over the next 12 months.
00:30:26.880 You know, maybe in 12 months you want to pay off $30,000 of debt, but today you're just paying
00:30:33.460 off a hundred dollars.
00:30:35.740 It's like you said with running, um, you can't run the marathon today, but you can run a mile
00:30:41.980 today.
00:30:42.280 And then maybe next week you can run a mile and a half and the next week, two miles or
00:30:45.660 the next week, two and a half miles until you get to the point where you can actually
00:30:49.360 go out and run a marathon and produce.
00:30:52.520 So I think you should be doing it all times, but I will say there is merit in picking things
00:30:59.420 that give you immediate momentum.
00:31:02.000 Part of that is just celebrating the wins that you have on a very small level, but I
00:31:06.820 do this in a very micro way every single day.
00:31:11.940 Sometimes I'm highly motivated and I don't need to build momentum because I'm just ready
00:31:16.400 to go.
00:31:17.080 Maybe I had a good night's sleep or I'm fueled correctly, or I'm just feeling positive or
00:31:21.100 happy about something that happened.
00:31:22.620 And so I don't need a lot of motivation.
00:31:24.860 And then there's other days where, you know, I'm dragging.
00:31:27.380 I didn't sleep very well.
00:31:28.520 I'm frustrated about something I might be dealing with professionally or personally.
00:31:32.000 And for me, it's picking something on my to-do list here inside this battle planner that
00:31:37.380 I just know I'm going to do that.
00:31:39.820 I'm going to check it off because it feels good to literally check it off.
00:31:43.400 And then I'm going to pick the next easiest thing.
00:31:45.860 And that momentum to Julian's point is what helps build that motivation.
00:31:49.420 I just think you need to do it on a case-by-case basis.
00:31:53.240 If you need the motivation and inspiration, do something easy.
00:31:56.160 That's going to move the needle. 1.00
00:31:57.200 If you don't do the hardest thing first and both strategies work depending on your current
00:32:03.320 state.
00:32:05.400 Ryan, out of those four quadrants, if you had to give advice to men listening on what quadrant
00:32:12.520 to prioritize, if you had to, what would it be?
00:32:15.320 Condition, probably.
00:32:20.400 And I don't think that's universally true.
00:32:22.860 Maybe it is.
00:32:25.780 I mean, there's also the spiritual realm and a lot of guys listening would say that's where
00:32:29.060 you start.
00:32:29.580 But I just, I feel like if you go to the gym every day and you train for at least 45 minutes
00:32:37.220 hard in whatever training regimen you want, whether it's strength training or running or
00:32:43.540 martial arts or whatever, CrossFit, that you are going to lose weight and that's going to
00:32:53.620 make you feel better.
00:32:54.260 You're going to have more energy.
00:32:55.160 And because you have more energy, you'll be able to be more effective at work.
00:32:58.140 And because you're more effective at work, that won't be bothering you and looming over
00:33:02.320 you so much.
00:33:02.980 So the relationships that you have will get more of your time and attention and energy.
00:33:06.420 And because that's on the rise and you're feeling good and the endorphins are kicking
00:33:10.340 in and firing and you're starting to lose weight, you're now you're starting to think about
00:33:14.320 how do you feel about yourself?
00:33:16.500 What do I want to accomplish in the long run?
00:33:18.500 What is my purpose for being here?
00:33:20.060 And you start to get to that mental, emotional, and spiritual realm.
00:33:22.600 So I, I think it has the greatest impact on all other quadrants.
00:33:30.560 Yeah.
00:33:31.420 Yeah.
00:33:32.580 All right.
00:33:33.100 We're going to hop over to some questions from Facebook, uh, to join us there, facebook.com
00:33:37.420 slash group slash order of man, Eric Tyler, what systems or daily disciplines do you personally
00:33:43.580 use to make sure your goals don't just stay on paper?
00:33:46.380 I find myself setting strong goals, but struggling to stay consistent when motivation fades.
00:33:52.680 Thank you guys.
00:33:55.700 Yeah.
00:33:56.400 Some of these are a little tough cause it's so broad.
00:33:58.840 So we're not talking about the exact thing that, that he might be dealing with, but I
00:34:03.480 use this battle planning system.
00:34:05.160 This is something that we created over 10 years ago now, and we've honed and refined and
00:34:10.240 fine tuned it, but I use this, but this is paper, right?
00:34:13.580 So I'm just writing it down, but all that I do, I only have two systems, this and Google
00:34:20.980 calendar.
00:34:22.120 That's it.
00:34:22.860 Yeah.
00:34:23.400 That is all that I, I cannot think, you know, I guess that's not true.
00:34:27.140 I do have, you know, my fitness palettes tracking my, my nutrition system itself.
00:34:33.080 Yeah.
00:34:33.940 Right.
00:34:34.440 Is, is just this.
00:34:35.580 So, um, I write everything down on that.
00:34:38.620 And then my goal is to get everything done this week on that.
00:34:41.500 And usually what I find is if I can get 70% of that list done on Monday, man, I will have
00:34:48.460 a very productive week and that's not out of the realm of possibility.
00:34:52.020 So I try to front and load my week and just get as much of that list cranked out as possible
00:34:57.480 on Monday.
00:34:58.200 And I promise you the rest of your week goes that much better.
00:35:02.160 I, I tend to pick up momentum, um, new opportunities present themselves.
00:35:07.940 I'm a little lighter, you know, I'm not so heavy and burdened down by what I think needs
00:35:12.440 to be accomplished.
00:35:13.600 I'm definitely lighter in the way I communicate and, and my relationships that I have.
00:35:18.240 But yeah, I, I go, I go from idea or thought.
00:35:22.920 Sometimes it'll, I'll put it on my phone.
00:35:25.440 I have a daily task reminder on my phone.
00:35:27.980 I'll put it in there.
00:35:28.840 And then when I get back to my office, I transfer it here.
00:35:32.240 And then anything that needs to be on my calendar, I go ahead and put that on my calendar.
00:35:36.660 And then I live and die by that calendar.
00:35:38.700 So I'm pulling up my calendar here real quick right now.
00:35:42.380 So I have a bunch of different, um, calendars.
00:35:45.580 So I have my, my scheduled, my scheduled calendar.
00:35:49.900 So like this, this podcast would be scheduled.
00:35:52.580 Um, I have a calls calendar.
00:35:54.580 So today I need to make, uh, it looks like six calls or emails to connect with guys, to
00:36:01.260 get them on the podcast.
00:36:02.760 Um, I have my kids sports calendar.
00:36:04.660 I have the times that my kids are with me calendar.
00:36:08.020 Um, I have my podcast interview release dates calendar, and then I have a calendar for my girlfriend
00:36:13.040 and I, so we can communicate and coordinate.
00:36:15.580 What, what we need to with some of our plans.
00:36:18.300 So I live and die by that calendar.
00:36:21.260 If it's on there, I'm doing it.
00:36:22.640 If it's not hit or miss.
00:36:25.460 And my goal is just to do work.
00:36:29.240 That's it.
00:36:29.980 My, my, my job is to serve this calendar.
00:36:33.700 Yeah.
00:36:34.520 You know, Eric, when I look at your question, right?
00:36:37.640 Daily disciplines.
00:36:38.640 Do you personally use to make sure your goals don't stay on paper?
00:36:41.800 I think for most guys, it's accountability.
00:36:46.080 It's self accountability.
00:36:47.280 It's accountability to a group.
00:36:49.700 Um, because we may follow the systems, right?
00:36:52.760 That, that Ryan just brought up, but where a lot of guys fails, they'll, they'll start
00:36:57.520 and then they won't do it.
00:37:00.360 They'll skip today.
00:37:01.580 We'll, you know, I'll push it to next week.
00:37:03.780 Oh, you know what?
00:37:04.440 Screw that.
00:37:04.900 Let's just wait until the new year.
00:37:06.600 Right.
00:37:07.060 And, and this is what we do by default.
00:37:09.460 And it's not until you start holding yourself accountable and, or being part of a group
00:37:15.980 where you are reporting back your progress.
00:37:18.980 And, and pivoting and communicating and reporting back about what you're, how you did and what
00:37:27.300 you're doing moving forward.
00:37:28.820 This is, this is the power of what we do in the iron council.
00:37:31.760 This is the power of being part of a battle team because you have these men that will say,
00:37:36.820 Hey Kip, you didn't complete that tactic.
00:37:40.380 What's going on?
00:37:41.260 Why not?
00:37:43.120 Right.
00:37:43.520 And, and we're having a conversation about the necessary pivots to hit those commitments.
00:37:49.200 So I think for most men, it is the absence of accountability that ultimately will eventually
00:37:56.400 get in the way when motivation fades.
00:37:59.980 I think that's well said.
00:38:02.120 I wrote a couple other things down here, Kip, as you were going on that.
00:38:07.040 Also being ruthlessly committed to honesty and integrity.
00:38:11.260 Hmm.
00:38:12.460 And those are two different things.
00:38:14.100 Sometimes we use them synonymously, but they're two different things.
00:38:17.080 Honesty is just telling the truth, not the truth with a capital T, just the truth.
00:38:23.400 Like I did this today.
00:38:25.040 I didn't do this today.
00:38:26.140 I accomplished this.
00:38:27.200 I didn't accomplish this.
00:38:28.480 Here's where I slacked off.
00:38:29.760 Here's where I, you know, wasn't effective as I could have been.
00:38:33.820 Here's where I was too harsh with somebody.
00:38:36.440 Here's where I messed up and made a mistake.
00:38:39.120 Honesty.
00:38:39.560 Honesty, not only to yourself, self-accountability, but also to a group of people.
00:38:43.880 Because Kip, I could jump in with a group of people and they could say, hey, did you accomplish
00:38:47.220 the thing?
00:38:47.600 And I could say, yeah.
00:38:49.280 Cool.
00:38:49.720 Good job.
00:38:50.940 Well, that's not accountability because you're not being honest.
00:38:53.060 You're lying.
00:38:53.840 So that's number one.
00:38:54.760 Yeah.
00:38:55.080 Number two, integrity.
00:38:56.240 Integrity is different from honesty.
00:38:58.560 Honesty is telling the truth.
00:39:00.700 Integrity is aligning your words and your actions.
00:39:02.980 So if you say, and if you put it on this thing, this list that you're going to call those six
00:39:08.220 people, you don't get to be done until you call those six people.
00:39:13.040 Your day is not over until that's done.
00:39:15.780 And you need to be committed to that.
00:39:17.340 And if you're not committed to that, then you're just, you're out of integrity.
00:39:21.100 You're not aligned with your words and your actions.
00:39:24.980 And then the other thing that I wrote down here too, with this accountability is an after
00:39:28.720 action review.
00:39:29.500 And the after action review does require honesty.
00:39:31.860 And I have that in here so I can go through at the end of the day.
00:39:34.400 And I do.
00:39:36.200 After every day, after every conversation I have, after every counter, every meeting,
00:39:41.680 I asked myself, did I accomplish what I wanted to accomplish?
00:39:46.440 What could I have done better?
00:39:48.540 Where did I slack?
00:39:49.740 Where did I do well?
00:39:50.840 How can I double down on that?
00:39:52.180 What am I going to do tomorrow or the next time I do this?
00:39:54.900 I mean, it's the reason our podcast continues to do so well is because we review and analyze
00:39:59.480 our performance.
00:40:01.100 And Kip, we've underperformed certain days and we've talked about it.
00:40:04.760 Hey, we could do a better job at this.
00:40:06.200 Let's change the lighting.
00:40:07.660 Let's change the questions.
00:40:08.860 Let's add this segment.
00:40:09.980 Let's take this segment out.
00:40:11.400 Let's be on time after action review.
00:40:14.560 And if you're doing that, and Alan likes to often talk about the before action review,
00:40:19.860 which is another great strategy as well.
00:40:22.840 What do you want to accomplish?
00:40:24.080 And then the after action review, what did you accomplish?
00:40:27.920 Yeah.
00:40:28.740 You know, and some of us might make a mistake.
00:40:30.940 I can't help but think of teenagers, you know, where in that age of your life, you have a
00:40:37.460 tendency to think that your actions don't affect others. 0.99
00:40:39.960 That, that I can, you know, I can be a dipshit as a teenager. 0.97
00:40:43.740 And what do you guys care? 0.88
00:40:45.480 It doesn't affect everybody.
00:40:46.580 And you're like, as a parent, you're trying to coach your kid.
00:40:48.900 Like it affects us.
00:40:50.400 It affects our perception of you.
00:40:52.200 It affects our family unit.
00:40:53.520 It affects your friends, right?
00:40:54.660 Like the impact that you have on the world is far greater than you realize.
00:40:59.140 And I think that's the faulty assumption for most people that might be out of integrity
00:41:05.500 is they think it doesn't matter, that their word doesn't matter, that it doesn't really
00:41:13.040 affect them that much.
00:41:15.160 And, and I would argue it grow, it, it, it does in a very powerful way that we may not
00:41:23.080 realize.
00:41:23.620 One to ourselves, when I'm out of integrity, it erodes with my confidence to myself, but
00:41:30.420 also the way we show up affects those around us.
00:41:34.940 And whether you want to admit it or not, the impact that you're leaving, um, let me say
00:41:41.600 it this way.
00:41:42.160 You're leaving an impact whether you realize it or not.
00:41:45.620 And it may be net negative, or it could be really powerful and positive, but it is up to
00:41:51.480 you and it is rooted, I think, in you honoring your word and being a man of integrity ultimately.
00:42:01.960 Well, one thing I, I ask people when we do, um, some of our events and experiences is I
00:42:07.420 ask them, do you get to decide if you're influential?
00:42:11.300 Do you get to decide?
00:42:12.580 And most people, most people say, yes, 80% of the hands go up and it's, yes, I get to
00:42:17.960 decide if I'm influential.
00:42:18.860 That's not right.
00:42:21.600 A hundred percent of you are influential and you don't get to decide whether or not you
00:42:26.720 are and to who or who not you, you are.
00:42:29.840 People are watching you.
00:42:30.860 Your kids are watching you.
00:42:31.960 People listening to this podcast are watching us.
00:42:34.540 Um, I was in target with, uh, two of my kids over the weekend and, um, I, I heard a man
00:42:41.480 behind me and he's like, Hey, is that Ryan?
00:42:43.480 And I turned around and I, I didn't know the person, but he's like, Hey man, I listened
00:42:49.320 to your podcast all the time.
00:42:50.940 I just wanted to come introduce myself and meet you and just tell you, I really appreciate
00:42:55.040 the stuff that you do, the work that you do.
00:42:56.820 And I love when people do that.
00:42:58.140 It's, it's so cool.
00:42:59.840 And, and I actually love it when my kids are there because they can see how influential
00:43:03.480 a person can be positively for somebody if they're willing to put themselves out there
00:43:08.280 and do it.
00:43:08.640 And we always have a good conversation.
00:43:09.860 So I was talking with this guy and, uh, it was brief, you know, he's respectful of my
00:43:14.760 time and my attention with my kids, but he came up and introduced and I was glad he did.
00:43:18.260 And then we left and I was walking out into the parking lot.
00:43:22.240 And I remember thinking, man, I'm really glad I wasn't yelling at my kids in line when he
00:43:26.920 saw me.
00:43:30.960 And I'm really glad that I've got my nutrition locked in and I'm, I'm training and, and looking
00:43:38.100 good.
00:43:39.300 Um, and I'm really glad that I decided to, you know, put a pair of boots and jeans and
00:43:45.240 a clean shirt on today.
00:43:46.480 And after I, after taking a shower, rather than just like going out in my flannel, you
00:43:51.880 know, pants with Birkenstocks and a stained, greasy t-shirt and not have done my hair, brushed
00:43:58.320 my teeth.
00:43:59.680 And I think that's, that's what we're talking.
00:44:02.300 You never know when you're going to bump into somebody whose life you either have changed
00:44:07.660 positively, or you could change positively if you show up the way that you're, you ought
00:44:12.920 to show up.
00:44:14.340 So consider that next time you're thinking about going out in public, consider that next
00:44:19.920 time you're tasked with a project at work.
00:44:22.040 What does this mean to the people around you?
00:44:24.800 And when they see you, will their perception of you grow or diminish something worth considering?
00:44:34.840 Yeah.
00:44:35.320 Well, it sounds like a good way to wrap up and a good call to action for, for all of
00:44:40.460 us.
00:44:40.660 I think it goes without saying, right?
00:44:43.800 We, we have the systems and the tools and the processes in place that ensure success.
00:44:48.980 And, and it's called the iron council.
00:44:51.000 If you guys are interested, if you've been on the fence, don't wait until January.
00:44:54.920 Um, act now and, and what a great opportunity that we have to get out some of the kinks and 1.00
00:45:03.120 the processes and fine tune things even before the new year starts, uh, to join us in the
00:45:07.740 iron council, go to order of man.com slash iron council to learn more and to sign up.
00:45:12.220 And as always, um, leave those raving comments of the impact that Ryan's left in your life
00:45:18.880 on Instagram and X at Ryan Mickler.
00:45:21.220 Only the good, I love it when I get put, yeah, only good comments.
00:45:26.600 There's a good call.
00:45:28.520 Or if, uh, or if you see me out in public and I'm looking like a, a bum, make sure you 0.97
00:45:33.660 come up and embarrass me because I deserve that for sure.
00:45:38.300 Um, I love it.
00:45:39.140 Hey guys, one other ask I have, if you obviously check out the iron council, it's a great tool.
00:45:43.180 We've been doing it for 10 years.
00:45:44.300 We've had tens of thousands of men go through our programs and courses and everything else.
00:45:48.860 Um, but if you would, I have, I do have an ask of you.
00:45:51.920 And my ask is if you would just leave a review wherever you're listening to podcasts.
00:45:56.400 So if it's on Apple podcasts or Spotify or any other place, maybe, maybe it's YouTube.
00:46:02.520 If it's on YouTube, subscribe and leave a comment, um, engage in some way and let people know that
00:46:10.280 you've gotten value from tuning into what Kip, you and I have to share and what my guests
00:46:15.840 have to share, you, you don't really fully realize how much of an impact that makes.
00:46:21.340 And it's like, we were talking about earlier when you do it in the micro, it doesn't seem
00:46:24.720 like it's moving the needle.
00:46:25.840 So you might say, well, it's just one review out of 9,000.
00:46:29.320 What does that mean?
00:46:30.580 Okay.
00:46:31.220 It's not one.
00:46:32.740 It's the fact that maybe 15,000 people can leave one review.
00:46:38.540 It's the power of the brotherhood and the community that we have.
00:46:41.440 And you're part of that, whether you've tuned in and listened in, bought a hat, bought a
00:46:45.720 shirt, come to one of our events, join the iron council, bought a program, bought a course,
00:46:48.900 whatever you're part of it.
00:46:50.380 And so you're one contribution that actually means a lot to me.
00:46:54.340 And it really helps push the movement and the agenda of reclaiming and restoring masculinity
00:46:58.560 forward.
00:46:59.100 So it's not one of one, it's one of 15,000, 20,000, a hundred, a million.
00:47:04.840 That's where we start to make the difference.
00:47:06.280 So don't think your, uh, your comments and your considerations and your shares and reviews don't
00:47:11.180 matter.
00:47:11.460 They absolutely do.
00:47:12.360 And that would mean a lot to me.
00:47:13.340 So that's my ask.
00:47:14.740 All right, guys, sorry, we had to cut this one short, but that's what life requires.
00:47:19.420 Sometimes we still wanted to get it out to you.
00:47:21.040 And hopefully we gave you some things to consider.
00:47:22.800 Um, next week, we're going to do another, ask me anything.
00:47:24.920 We're going to talk about current and cultural events.
00:47:27.420 So if you have any things that you want to share or talk about, or hear our commentary on,
00:47:32.220 uh, join the Facebook group, join Instagram and, uh, let me know what they are and we'll
00:47:37.760 get them out to you.
00:47:38.540 All right, guys, until then, go out there, take action and become the man you are meant
00:47:42.580 to be.
00:47:43.440 Thank you for listening to the order of man podcast.
00:47:46.280 You're ready to take charge of your life and be more of the man you were meant to be.
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00:48:02.220 Let's get to you.
00:48:02.960 Okay.
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