Order of Man - Dangerous Freedom, Unrighteous Dominion, and the Power to Create

00:00:00.000 You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.

00:00:06.020 When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time. Every time.

00:00:10.460 You are not easily deterred or defeated. Rugged. Resilient. Strong.

00:00:15.540 This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become.

00:00:19.780 At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

00:00:25.040 Mr. Kip Sorensen, good to see you, man.

00:00:27.500 Good to see you, man. How was your weekend?

00:00:30.000 It was good. What did I do? Spend some time with some friends.

00:00:34.340 In fact, I'm having our first ever outside event on our property in the fall.

00:00:40.600 We're hosting a marriage for my good friend, Caleb Oliver.

00:00:45.540 I don't – have you been out? You've been out here, right?

00:00:48.100 Yeah, and Caleb – I met Caleb last time we were coming out working on the property, I believe.

00:00:54.020 Yeah, so check this out.

00:00:55.100 Move the doors and stuff.

00:00:56.440 Yeah.

00:00:56.720 Yeah, so check this out. This is really cool. This is actually a really good lesson.

00:01:00.000 So when I moved to Maine about a year and a half ago – has it been that long?

00:01:04.120 Yeah, about a year and a half ago. Yeah.

00:01:06.900 He reached out to me. He sent me a text or a message on Instagram or somewhere and said,

00:01:10.680 Hey, man, I follow you. I know you moved out here to Maine. I'm pretty close.

00:01:14.260 I do electrical work. I know you've got that barn.

00:01:16.760 If you ever need any electrical work, I'd love to come over and help.

00:01:20.440 And it was a perfect pitch on his part.

00:01:24.980 And I said, Hey, you know, actually, I do need some outlets installed.

00:01:28.940 I need some fixtures, some lighting switches and fixtures installed.

00:01:33.020 So if you're interested, yeah, come on over. I don't have an electrician.

00:01:35.800 So he came over and he did the work pro bono.

00:01:39.980 He's like, Hey, I just believe in what you're doing.

00:01:42.500 I want to say thank you. I appreciate all the messages and whatnot that you put out.

00:01:46.120 So just allow this to be my gift for you and the value you've added to my life.

00:01:51.720 I'm like, Oh, cool. I didn't expect that, but that was a nice offer.

00:01:55.780 And then we had some other electrical and things like that that I needed to have done,

00:01:58.820 which I paid him for.

00:01:59.920 Of course, I compensated him for because I don't want to take advantage of people.

00:02:02.340 But then he came out to a couple of our events and everything else.

00:02:05.200 And we've just built a friendship over time.

00:02:07.320 And he's done probably at this point, I don't know, seven or eight,

00:02:10.880 just different odd jobs and things around the house.

00:02:14.280 And, and so about a month ago, I want to say I was out of town,

00:02:19.120 but he actually proposed to his fiancee in our barn and they're,

00:02:24.260 they want to do the wedding here.

00:02:25.940 So him and his fiancee came over,

00:02:27.820 we had dinner and just spent the afternoon together and they talked about what they

00:02:30.860 wanted and everything else.

00:02:31.720 So he's going to do a little bit more electrical for us to get everything the way

00:02:35.440 that he wants it and his, his bride wants it.

00:02:38.220 But I just thought outside of our friendship, I mean, that's important to me,

00:02:41.640 but even just outside of our friendship,

00:02:43.320 I just thought the way that he approached adding value to somebody's life and

00:02:50.080 leading with value.

00:02:51.400 And then just, I don't know if he thought anybody would, anything would come of it,

00:02:55.220 but just the fact that he led with value and then it's gotten to where it is now is a perfect,

00:03:01.880 perfect illustration of how we've talked about adding value in the past.

00:03:06.140 And, and Caleb, again, outside of our friendship and the relationship we have now,

00:03:10.720 man, knocked it out of the park with that one.

00:03:12.640 So let that serve as an example of how to add value and then it turning into something that

00:03:18.860 could be beneficiary, uh, beneficial, excuse me, for you and other people you're trying to serve

00:03:25.120 and connect with.

00:03:25.760 I just, it's just a perfect illustration of how to do it.

00:03:28.800 It really is.

00:03:29.360 And I'm assuming at the root of it was the fact that it was genuine.

00:03:32.680 Yeah.

00:03:33.040 Like he wasn't like game it.

00:03:34.820 Yeah.

00:03:35.180 Let me try game Ryan to be, you know, to get something out of him.

00:03:38.780 He, he, he was genuine.

00:03:40.260 Like he cared about what we're, what you were doing and wanted to help.

00:03:44.340 What's both.

00:03:44.980 It's genuine on both parts.

00:03:46.020 Like he cares about what I'm doing.

00:03:47.800 I wasn't saying that I think he's genuine, but that's why I brought it up.

00:03:51.860 Cause I knew you weren't saying that I figured I ought to bring it up on my end.

00:03:55.180 But yeah, I mean, it's genuine.

00:03:56.340 I want him to, I want him.

00:03:58.000 I mean, I value our relationship, but I want him to have, have a good experience with his

00:04:03.640 fiance and their marriage.

00:04:04.980 And I care about both of them.

00:04:06.260 And so anyways, it was just a cool experience.

00:04:08.440 I think it illustrates what we've been talking about for years at this point.

00:04:11.980 And by the way, it's March of 2021.

00:04:15.300 That means, and I don't know the exact date.

00:04:17.020 I'd have to go back and look.

00:04:17.980 That means we're at our six year anniversary this month.

00:04:21.260 So the podcast started in March of 2015.

00:04:25.400 Yeah.

00:04:26.220 2015.

00:04:27.080 That's right.

00:04:28.000 Yeah.

00:04:28.200 I think it's towards the end.

00:04:29.380 I want to say maybe the 25th, 26th, somewhere right in there.

00:04:32.200 So yeah.

00:04:33.040 You need to get that date figured out.

00:04:35.540 I don't know, man.

00:04:36.240 I'm not too.

00:04:36.820 I think it's, no, I think it's a milestone.

00:04:40.060 I don't know.

00:04:40.600 I'd like to know.

00:04:41.720 It is, but I've never been one to get wrapped up in that stuff too much.

00:04:45.900 You know, I think it's important.

00:04:47.020 I'm not trying to discount it.

00:04:48.380 I'm just saying like, okay, well, there's the day you could pick any day and say, well, it's

00:04:52.320 the 18th or the 26th.

00:04:53.520 It doesn't really matter.

00:04:54.200 It's arbitrary, but it is cool.

00:04:56.020 That said, it is cool that we've been going for six years and I know how many people we

00:04:59.800 served and helped.

00:05:00.500 And that's, that's pretty cool.

00:05:02.480 So our questions are coming from Instagram today and there's a handful of questions around

00:05:07.380 the canoe.

00:05:08.060 So I figured, you know, why we're bantering?

00:05:10.120 Why don't you just give us an update?

00:05:11.540 There's a couple of guys that were asking about, you know, what top lesson learned and when

00:05:16.260 do you, when do you plan on dropping it into the water?

00:05:18.980 So it's, yeah.

00:05:20.780 Well, I, um, I'm, I'm actually a little hesitant at times to talk about the canoe.

00:05:24.580 Cause I think sometimes it turns into the jujitsu thing where guys are like, oh my gosh,

00:05:29.240 you talk about that all the time.

00:05:32.580 So I've thought to myself, maybe they're sick of hearing about it, but actually we, I get

00:05:36.740 a lot of questions and emails and it sounds like we've got a bunch of questions today

00:05:39.540 or several.

00:05:40.880 Yeah.

00:05:41.040 Um, yeah.

00:05:41.960 So the canoe is coming along, uh, the, the entire canoe is, is stemmed, which means that

00:05:48.240 all the strips are, excuse me.

00:05:50.200 I said stemmed stripped is what I meant to say, or hold is probably the more accurate

00:05:54.500 term, but all of the cedar strips are, are laid and in place.

00:05:59.360 Uh, one of the things that we did at the very first was you have to bend and steam the stems

00:06:04.200 and the stems are the, the ends of the boat on the bow and the stern that, that bend

00:06:09.400 around that make the front of it.

00:06:10.680 So you have an inner stem and then you have an outer stem.

00:06:13.200 So you, so you bend the inner stem, then you shape it to a V and then that's what the

00:06:19.540 actual strips, the cedar strips are connecting to.

00:06:23.240 So that's all cured and hardened.

00:06:24.900 And then once that's done, then you reattach the outer stem that you bent with the inner

00:06:29.780 stem and you carve this little, uh, this little mortise where it slides into, uh, and then

00:06:36.200 you shape that down.

00:06:37.060 So all of that's done.

00:06:38.200 Um, so we just pulled the staples.

00:06:39.780 I had all four of my kids downstairs yesterday pulling staples and they loved it.

00:06:45.260 Uh, so we pulled out the staples.

00:06:46.940 I planed it.

00:06:48.120 So in between each strip cedar strip, so they're running horizontal at this point.

00:06:55.480 Yeah.

00:06:56.180 And there's little ridges where they, where they connect, right?

00:06:59.080 Cause it's kind of like, you know, bending around the shape of the, the molds.

00:07:02.620 So you plane all those little ridges out and then you sand it all down.

00:07:06.320 So it was just smooth.

00:07:07.980 And we got our very first look at what it could potentially look like just yesterday.

00:07:13.240 It looks cool.

00:07:14.820 It looks so amazing.

00:07:16.660 So now we have to go on Instagram.

00:07:18.540 I was like, that's looking awesome.

00:07:20.760 Yeah.

00:07:20.900 So, uh, this week we'll go in, we'll finish sanding, getting it just prepped exactly looking

00:07:27.520 the way that we want.

00:07:28.560 And then we go in with an epoxy resin.

00:07:30.680 It's called catalyzed epoxy.

00:07:32.140 That means basically the hardener has been mixed into it.

00:07:34.200 Uh, and we'll fill in any little gaps and little holes that there might exist between the planks

00:07:39.680 and things like that.

00:07:40.980 And then you tint it with the sawdust.

00:07:43.380 So it actually matches the color of the canoe itself because otherwise it's just a clear

00:07:48.380 epoxy.

00:07:49.160 So you tint it with sawdust, uh, and then that'll cure for a day or two.

00:07:53.940 And then we're ready to move to fiberglass.

00:07:55.960 So we put a fiberglass sheet over it, epoxy over that fiberglass.

00:08:00.320 And then the outside of the hole is basically done.

00:08:02.480 Um, well, the fiberglass cover, cover up the, the color.

00:08:06.380 Like I love the way it looks.

00:08:08.760 Is it going to look like that?

00:08:09.960 That's will not.

00:08:10.540 Cause it's a lot of people think when you think about fiberglass, you're thinking of like

00:08:13.860 white fiberglass, right?

00:08:15.780 Yeah.

00:08:16.300 This is a, this is basically, it looks like a bed sheet is what it looks like.

00:08:20.420 Okay.

00:08:20.740 You lay it on and it's kind of a cloudy, murky white color.

00:08:25.280 But once you lay the epoxy on the fiberglass is actually transparent.

00:08:29.520 So you will see the wood color.

00:08:32.540 Okay.

00:08:32.620 Yeah.

00:08:32.780 Cause I love the look of the strips.

00:08:34.440 Yeah.

00:08:34.460 You have to have it.

00:08:35.360 I'm thinking about burning the order of man logo into it somehow.

00:08:38.340 So we're still contemplating on that a little bit.

00:08:40.860 All right.

00:08:41.460 Last question from a curiosity perspective.

00:08:43.480 Why take the staples out?

00:08:44.840 I mean, wouldn't they help just.

00:08:47.560 Well, so the state, everything together.

00:08:49.760 So they do while the glue is curing and hardening.

00:08:53.500 Yeah.

00:08:53.720 And then once you take the staples out, they're no longer necessary, but the staples are actually

00:08:58.060 stapled.

00:08:59.480 They, you staple them into the, into the hole and then they staple down into the molds

00:09:05.360 and the mold of a canoe.

00:09:07.320 And you're taking the molds.

00:09:08.940 Yeah.

00:09:09.340 And you're taking the molds away.

00:09:10.680 So you got to get rid of those staples.

00:09:12.420 Okay.

00:09:12.620 Right.

00:09:13.000 So the molds basically look like if you've seen them, they kind of look like a mushroom

00:09:16.660 shape.

00:09:17.260 Yes.

00:09:17.660 Yeah.

00:09:18.360 Yeah.

00:09:18.860 So you're wrapping the boat around the mold.

00:09:21.140 That's right.

00:09:21.540 The molds are just there to give you the shape.

00:09:23.480 And once you have the shape, then you pull those out.

00:09:26.160 And then the epoxy with the fiberglass hardens and it maintains its shape.

00:09:31.220 Okay.

00:09:32.040 Okay.

00:09:32.360 Now there are, that being said, there are different canoes and boats that have, I actually

00:09:37.060 don't know the exact term, but I would call them ribs where.

00:09:40.300 It has a frame.

00:09:41.240 It has a frame that comes up that, but this particular style does not have that, that wooden

00:09:47.580 frame or those ribs.

00:09:49.080 Not even halfway?

00:09:51.020 None.

00:09:52.120 Really?

00:09:52.920 Yeah.

00:09:53.200 It's just, it's just the, the strips, but again, you're hardening the inside with the

00:09:57.580 fiberglass and the epoxy.

00:09:58.940 And also you do that to the inside too.

00:10:01.100 So it's got a fiberglass inside.

00:10:03.260 Then it has the woods.

00:10:05.060 So if you're working from the outside to the inside of the canoe, here's the layers.

00:10:08.960 Epoxy resin, fiberglass, wood strips, fiberglass, epoxy resin.

00:10:15.700 Got it.

00:10:16.260 So it's going to be pretty, pretty firm.

00:10:18.160 Cool.

00:10:18.860 Yeah, man.

00:10:19.160 Okay.

00:10:19.340 And then the last one was when, when do you guys, what's your estimated drop date?

00:10:25.160 So I would say like end of April, we probably will have it done in the next 30 to 45 days,

00:10:31.080 I would say.

00:10:31.940 Yeah.

00:10:32.660 And, and I only say that because I've got a job like if you know, and, and there's also

00:10:39.300 things that I'm waiting for.

00:10:40.260 Like I'm waiting for the fiberglass right now, which should be here in three or four days.

00:10:42.980 So it'll be a little while and, and then the ice has to break up to you on the lake.

00:10:47.840 So I got to wait for that as well.

00:10:50.180 Yeah.

00:10:50.620 Yeah.

00:10:50.780 Good point.

00:10:51.560 Yeah.

00:10:51.900 Cool, man.

00:10:52.580 But we'll be ready to go.

00:10:54.040 All right.

00:10:54.580 We address all the questions.

00:10:56.320 So leave a comment.

00:10:59.220 Buy our stuff, join the iron council, um, do all those stuff.

00:11:03.800 Did you get to?

00:11:04.320 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:05.660 All right.

00:11:06.400 Should we jump into it?

00:11:07.660 Yeah.

00:11:08.400 All right.

00:11:08.920 So, um, ag Snyder, what are some key ways to avoid temptation with my girlfriend, especially

00:11:15.760 in the heat of the moment?

00:11:16.800 So temptation with her, not, but, but maybe, I don't know.

00:11:21.260 I mean, I think this is only applicable, right?

00:11:23.620 To a handful of guys.

00:11:25.280 Maybe the other, I think I should be able to add to it is, I know what he's saying.

00:11:29.200 Yeah.

00:11:29.600 But maybe we, maybe we add to it is just avoid temptation with the opposite sex period.

00:11:34.340 Even if you're married.

00:11:35.240 I mean, in his case, it looks like they're dating and they're trying to wait.

00:11:38.700 Right.

00:11:39.100 Yeah.

00:11:39.220 Trying to wait.

00:11:39.820 Yeah.

00:11:40.080 Yeah.

00:11:40.300 Well, first and foremost, I commend you for doing that because look, you're a dying breed.

00:11:45.860 You're a dying breed.

00:11:47.260 You're exactly right.

00:11:48.340 It's, it's, it's challenging.

00:11:50.280 It's tough.

00:11:51.360 Society says it's not important.

00:11:52.760 I actually think it is important.

00:11:54.240 My wife and I waited because that was important for us.

00:11:57.480 Uh, I'm not going to say it wasn't challenging or we didn't toe up against that line at times,

00:12:02.080 but you know, we, we waited because it was an important decision for us.

00:12:06.680 And I hear so many guys are like, Oh, move in test drive before.

00:12:10.260 No, I don't, I don't believe in any of that.

00:12:12.280 If you do cool.

00:12:13.500 I just think it sets you up and tease you up for failure in relationships.

00:12:16.560 So to this guy, I commend you for making that decision.

00:12:19.620 It's tough.

00:12:20.360 I know it is.

00:12:21.400 What I would say is that obviously when you guys are alone, you're at your place or her

00:12:26.720 place, that's where the temptation is obviously going to be the highest.

00:12:30.520 So if that's where you're tempted, then put the boundaries in place.

00:12:33.880 You know, maybe it's a curfew that you establish.

00:12:36.800 Hey, I'm not going to stay past 11 o'clock or whatever the time is.

00:12:40.240 Right.

00:12:40.880 Yeah.

00:12:41.220 Or that, you know, Holy ghost goes to bed at 10 is that, that that's the rule, right?

00:12:48.080 You know, so, or, or, you know, when you're alone, so maybe instead of doing, you know,

00:12:54.040 things alone, you have friends over and you're always doing stuff with friends, but look,

00:12:58.460 the temptation is there.

00:12:59.460 It's high.

00:13:00.740 Obviously I get it.

00:13:02.920 It's natural.

00:13:04.240 It's, it's a good thing.

00:13:05.720 I think.

00:13:06.460 Yeah.

00:13:07.060 Yeah.

00:13:07.280 You're not physically attracted to your wife.

00:13:09.300 Like what the hell's wrong with both of you?

00:13:11.980 So I would just say, look for wherever you're tempted, the greatest, and you've made this

00:13:16.300 decision to commit to each other, to wait, to honor those decisions that you guys both

00:13:20.980 have made.

00:13:21.300 I'm assuming then you just got to not put yourself in that situation.

00:13:25.560 That's it.

00:13:26.060 Yeah.

00:13:26.640 Like if you're alone and it's in the evening and you're in the bedroom and the door is

00:13:30.900 closed, like that's, what's going to happen.

00:13:32.420 We all know that's, what's going to happen.

00:13:34.160 So don't do that now to brought it out, Kip, to what you were saying.

00:13:38.180 If you're, uh, addicted to alcohol, you're an alcoholic.

00:13:43.240 Okay.

00:13:43.600 Well, you know, when that happens, right?

00:13:45.320 If you go to the convenience store, you go to a store or you go to the liquor store, you

00:13:48.420 drive by the liquor store on your way home, uh, or there's, there's alcohol in the, in

00:13:52.700 the cupboards.

00:13:54.060 I mean, come on, you know, you know, so don't put yourself, don't tee yourself up for failure.

00:14:00.260 That's essentially what you're doing.

00:14:01.980 Yeah.

00:14:02.340 So look at what those temptations are, figure out when they happen, how they happen, when

00:14:07.940 you're most tempted, when you're most vulnerable, and then make a plan, make a strategy so that

00:14:13.700 you don't put yourself in that environment and, and you're going to have a better time.

00:14:18.240 I would also say that you should make a plan for dealing with the temptation in the moment

00:14:25.340 and do it now before you're in the heat of the moment.

00:14:27.880 So if, if it's tempted to sleep with your girlfriend or your fiance and you've made that

00:14:33.240 decision not to, okay, well, when you get in the heat of the moment right now, you got

00:14:38.140 to decide what is it that's going to keep me like, what's my strategy?

00:14:41.760 Is it to leave?

00:14:42.480 Is it to go home?

00:14:43.140 Is it to go take a cold shower?

00:14:44.580 Like, what is my actual strategy for avoiding this?

00:14:48.760 Same thing with drinking.

00:14:49.940 If you know that when you go out with, with the guys and you, y'all get shit faced, okay,

00:14:56.660 well, what are you going to do when somebody asks you if you'd like to have a drink, make

00:15:01.520 that plan today, right now, when you're not in the heat of the moment, so that when you

00:15:05.320 are in the heat of the moment, that's what you default to.

00:15:08.180 There's a, there's a great quote, uh, by Archie Locus.

00:15:11.420 And I think the Navy SEALs adopted this quote and it says, we do not rise to the level of

00:15:15.960 our expectations.

00:15:16.760 We fall to the level of our training.

00:15:18.820 And that applies to your temptations.

00:15:21.700 You're going to fall to the level of your strategy and your default and your plan of

00:15:26.360 action.

00:15:26.760 You're not going to step up to the plate in the heat of the moment.

00:15:29.460 You're just not, you're going to fall back to your default.

00:15:32.160 So establish those defaults now so you can resist when, when you need to.

00:15:40.220 Yeah.

00:15:40.560 You know, it's, I was going to crack a joke that's, you know, when I think about what

00:15:45.960 prevents me and my wife, uh, from being, uh, physically with each other.

00:15:50.260 I'm like, oh, it's just kids.

00:15:51.520 So just invite some kids over and that should ruin all opportunity that you have in life.

00:15:58.500 My kids.

00:15:59.220 And I know, I don't know if there's some sort of like hormone detector in them or it gets,

00:16:05.400 you know, how sometimes with your kids, you hear them and there's, there's an acceptable

00:16:11.040 volume range where if it's too loud, you're like, something's wrong.

00:16:15.500 Got to go address that.

00:16:16.700 Yeah.

00:16:17.320 Too quiet.

00:16:18.020 Also, something's wrong.

00:16:19.220 Got to go address that.

00:16:20.200 There's this tolerant level.

00:16:21.960 Quiet's more dangerous usually.

00:16:23.260 So I think they must have the same thing too, because if mom and dad had the bedroom door

00:16:29.140 closed and it's too quiet, they're like, what's going on in there?

00:16:33.640 Something's going on.

00:16:34.420 I got to figure out what's happening.

00:16:35.940 Most of the time.

00:16:36.460 I got to go bother them.

00:16:37.400 It's like 80, 20 sleep, sex.

00:16:40.340 So whatever.

00:16:41.180 But yeah.

00:16:42.600 You can borrow my kids.

00:16:44.380 They'll, they'll ruin any opportunity that you and your girlfriend have.

00:16:47.040 And if you have twins, like that's even, that's not double the trouble.

00:16:51.380 That's like quadruple or more of the trouble.

00:16:53.720 Yeah.

00:16:54.180 I've had a couple of friends with twins and I'm like, oh my gosh.

00:16:57.340 You're like, that's going to be about 12 years for you guys.

00:17:01.520 Yeah.

00:17:01.780 At least, at least.

00:17:03.400 All right.

00:17:03.760 All right.

00:17:04.700 Aaron Hopka, how do you turn society around to create a larger brotherhood of men,

00:17:10.340 similar to order of men, but at a larger scale?

00:17:13.220 Well, Aaron, we just make order of men at a larger scale, but what's the game plan?

00:17:19.700 How do we turn society around or what can Aaron and the other guys do?

00:17:23.380 That you're doing it.

00:17:24.580 You know, you're part of this.

00:17:25.740 Sometimes it doesn't move as fast as we would like.

00:17:27.920 And it is just what it is.

00:17:30.740 It takes time to get off the ground, you know?

00:17:33.180 So I, you are part of it.

00:17:34.740 We are trying to continue to grow the presence of what we're doing here.

00:17:37.460 We are expanding our reach and having more qualified and, and, and powerful guests

00:17:42.620 on the podcast.

00:17:43.300 We're talking about different topics.

00:17:45.400 I'm broaching discussions and topics and points that a lot of people don't want to

00:17:51.120 have or aren't comfortable with.

00:17:52.840 But I think the best thing that you can do is listen to what we're doing here, apply what

00:17:57.360 we're doing, and then invite others to listen to, you know, the more, the more men in your

00:18:01.620 circle who are listening to what we're doing, they're reading the book, they're listening

00:18:05.520 to the podcast, you know, they're, they're repping the merchandise as trivial as that may

00:18:09.820 sound, you guys are going to rally behind that.

00:18:12.800 I think about even with merchandise, again, it sounds trivial, but why do football teams

00:18:17.280 or any sports teams wear uniforms?

00:18:19.940 Why does the military have a uniform?

00:18:22.220 It's not like you're hiding in the forest so people can't see you.

00:18:24.840 So why do we, why do we wear these uniforms?

00:18:27.620 It's to unite us for a common good, for a common purpose.

00:18:31.560 And so wearing an order of man hat or wearing an order of man shirt, somebody's going to

00:18:36.260 see that, you know, I've been stopped.

00:18:37.980 In fact, a week ago, I was stopped at the gas station and I have my order of man sticker

00:18:43.040 on the back of my truck and a guy pulled up to the pump next to me and he's like, Hey,

00:18:46.960 are you Ryan?

00:18:48.140 I said, yeah, I am.

00:18:48.860 He's like, Oh, I thought so, man.

00:18:50.360 I knew you lived here.

00:18:51.440 I saw your decal and I got my decal on the back too.

00:18:54.900 And I went around the back of this truck and sure enough, he had his order of man decal

00:18:57.660 right in the window.

00:18:59.060 That's cool.

00:18:59.400 That's that unites us towards a common purpose, which is to protect, provide, preside.

00:19:03.260 So, uh, yeah, use the materials that we have and then just spread the mission.

00:19:07.860 You know, if everybody who listened, let's say there's, well, there's hundreds of thousands

00:19:11.740 of people.

00:19:12.180 Let's say, I don't know.

00:19:14.300 Let's say it's, it's 500,000.

00:19:15.960 Let's just say for the sake of argument.

00:19:17.100 And everybody today just shared this podcast or a post that we made or whatever it may be.

00:19:23.660 One person shared with one person, that would be a million.

00:19:26.580 The next day, everybody shared it with another person.

00:19:29.580 That would be 2 million, then 4 million, then 8 million, then 16 million, then 30, 32 million.

00:19:34.340 And so my math's getting away from me at this point.

00:19:36.820 So I'll just stop there.

00:19:37.660 But, uh, it spreads very, very quickly.

00:19:41.000 This is the power of exponential growth.

00:19:43.020 So be the example, invite people to listen.

00:19:47.180 You don't have to reinvent the wheel.

00:19:48.640 That's the other thing guys are like, Oh, let's reinvent the wheel.

00:19:50.780 Let's create our own thing.

00:19:51.640 I commend you if you want to create your own thing, but damn, we've been doing this

00:19:54.940 for six years.

00:19:55.800 You know, Kip, you got the book behind you.

00:19:57.540 I've got what 700 plus podcasts in the bank, thousands and thousands of social media posts,

00:20:03.840 hundreds of thousands of people banded on YouTube and Instagram and Facebook and everywhere

00:20:07.820 else.

00:20:09.220 It's all here.

00:20:10.580 The mission is clear.

00:20:11.820 Yeah.

00:20:12.300 It's been defined.

00:20:13.840 Yeah, man.

00:20:14.660 Yeah.

00:20:14.920 Yeah.

00:20:15.180 Well, and I think it's just, and if maybe a challenge to Aaron and the other guys, I mean,

00:20:19.780 and this is our ask, obviously every week is like, share this message, but like kind of

00:20:25.000 get out of your comfort zone a little bit too.

00:20:27.620 And, you know, go out of your way.

00:20:30.360 Right.

00:20:30.720 And look for those guys that are, that are like-minded and, and invite them to join us,

00:20:36.080 right.

00:20:36.300 Join the movement with us.

00:20:37.540 And then the other thing is, you know, what inspires me or it kind of gets me pumped up

00:20:42.140 is be the kind of man that people are like, Aaron, what the hell are you doing?

00:20:47.640 Exactly.

00:20:47.960 Like, what are you doing?

00:20:49.300 Because I want some of that.

00:20:51.400 Be that kind of man.

00:20:53.000 So then that way people are, you're a lighthouse.

00:20:55.380 So people are coming to you for guidance and direction and they want some, they want whatever

00:21:00.260 it is that you're taking.

00:21:01.360 Yeah.

00:21:02.080 You know, and then that way, that's how we, that's how we change the world, right?

00:21:05.260 That's how we leave a lasting impact.

00:21:08.020 Yeah, I agree with that.

00:21:09.040 And so, you know, we have guys in the Facebook group, for example, who have lost weight.

00:21:12.760 And I'm just using that because that's a very easy example because somebody is going

00:21:15.700 to see that externally.

00:21:16.880 You know, they're going to see a guy that's lost 50 pounds and they're going to wonder,

00:21:20.800 Hey, well, you look great, man.

00:21:22.560 What have you been doing?

00:21:24.180 If you don't have a framework for them to go to, it's still valuable, you know, Hey,

00:21:28.660 I've been doing X, Y, and Z.

00:21:29.820 But if you don't have a framework for them to go to like order of man, then it's going

00:21:33.560 to, it's not going to fall on deaf ears, but it just isn't as tangible.

00:21:38.100 Yeah.

00:21:38.180 So, but, but on the other hand, if you said, Oh, I've, I read this book called Sovereignty

00:21:43.500 or I listened to this podcast and it inspired me.

00:21:46.380 And I think you ought to listen to it too.

00:21:47.900 And here's what they talk about.

00:21:49.660 And they got their 30 days to battle ready program.

00:21:51.640 And I actually just use that.

00:21:52.900 And that helped me.

00:21:53.620 And I use the battle planner and that got me on track.

00:21:56.140 Well, then there's something that for people to actually sink their teeth into.

00:22:00.180 Yeah.

00:22:00.580 And that's why what we do is so valuable.

00:22:02.200 It's not because what we're doing is offering advice or suggestions that you haven't heard before.

00:22:06.860 I don't think that you and I, Kip, have ever shared anything that isn't, that isn't already

00:22:12.060 been shared and articulated in some way.

00:22:15.380 Right.

00:22:16.140 But, but the way we're, we create a framework, something for people to latch onto and sink

00:22:21.200 their teeth into.

00:22:22.400 And so it becomes more tangible and easier to follow and implement.

00:22:25.800 So if you're doing it good, if you've used our resources, then share what resources you're

00:22:30.520 using so people can do the same in their own lives.

00:22:33.360 Yeah.

00:22:34.620 Brian Edward Hoover, how do you identify imposter syndrome in yourself and if, and, and the

00:22:39.800 difference between that and situations where you've just reached too far, too fast.

00:22:45.180 Additionally, what tactics do you recommend for dealing with those feelings of inferiority?

00:22:49.900 Yeah.

00:22:50.060 So I would be really careful of saying like, oh, I must have imposter syndrome.

00:22:54.160 Yeah.

00:22:54.600 Because at that point, I think what you're doing is you're looking for things to be wrong.

00:22:57.680 And then to go back to what I was saying earlier is you're making it tangible.

00:23:02.140 It isn't really necessary other than to identify so quickly.

00:23:06.260 That's what I'm saying.

00:23:07.060 Yeah.

00:23:07.720 Yeah.

00:23:08.000 Maybe just to identify what you're dealing with is I would say a positive benefit of that,

00:23:13.000 but I feel the same way with when guys say, well, I'm an introvert.

00:23:17.040 Like, why would you say that now?

00:23:20.220 Now, everything that you're going to do is, is, is going to reassure what you believe yourself.

00:23:26.780 Yeah.

00:23:27.560 So, so are you introverted?

00:23:30.080 Maybe.

00:23:30.880 Is it scary or difficult or uncomfortable for you to talk with people that you don't know?

00:23:35.720 Maybe, but let's not put a label on it.

00:23:38.360 That actually is more of self-fulfilling prophecy than anything else.

00:23:41.680 So in the spirit of the question, what I would say is not worry so much about placing a label on it,

00:23:48.080 but just ask yourself, Hey, is the self-doubt that I have?

00:23:52.420 Cause isn't that at the root of imposter syndrome is self-doubt.

00:23:55.440 Yeah.

00:23:55.780 So the self-doubt that I have is keeping me from doing what I want to do.

00:24:02.560 And I think that's a healthy, healthy thing to consider.

00:24:06.880 And then, then you can address it.

00:24:10.020 Okay.

00:24:10.480 So yeah, I'm nervous about putting myself out there.

00:24:13.660 Right.

00:24:14.160 Or I doubt that I can do this job, or I doubt that I can thrive in this way, or I don't have

00:24:19.640 a track record of success because I've never done this, but I'm trying something new.

00:24:24.140 All right.

00:24:24.640 Well, that's, that's healthy.

00:24:25.540 There's nothing wrong with that, but just play it out.

00:24:28.580 Just play it out.

00:24:29.440 Okay.

00:24:30.480 Just admit the truth.

00:24:32.260 And I'll go back to the canoe as much as I I'm hesitant again, for the reason I told

00:24:36.680 you earlier, like people are like, Oh, how long have you been doing woodworking guys?

00:24:41.220 I have no woodworking experience ever.

00:24:44.180 You know, I may have built the shell for a workbench here or there, but that's it.

00:24:47.640 I don't have any woodworking experience.

00:24:50.520 Does that mean I'm an imposter?

00:24:53.540 No, it just means like, okay, I'm figuring it out.

00:24:55.760 And so my approach to things that I don't know is not, Oh, I'm an imposter.

00:25:00.060 I shouldn't be doing this.

00:25:00.820 It's like, I have no idea how to do this, but I want to figure it out.

00:25:05.520 And that's a more healthy approach to not knowing things or to have self doubt because

00:25:11.040 you actually might be right.

00:25:12.700 Like you, you don't know, but does that mean you're an imposter?

00:25:17.100 No, it just means that you're an amateur or you're a novice and you need to figure it

00:25:20.900 out.

00:25:21.320 And it's a, it's a healthier way of looking at it and then say, I have imposter syndrome.

00:25:25.540 Now you have beginner syndrome, which is, you just feel inadequate.

00:25:31.120 You have no experience, which, which is good that you're humble and you realize you don't

00:25:35.660 because now you're trying it.

00:25:37.100 Yeah.

00:25:37.300 Now, if, if you're feeling so bad about yourself or so inadequate about yourself that you won't

00:25:43.700 do it, that's a problem.

00:25:45.380 So instead of saying, well, you know, I, even if it's subconscious, well, I've never done

00:25:49.800 this before, so I'm not going to go.

00:25:51.100 That's ego.

00:25:53.140 That's your ego speaking.

00:25:54.760 Instead say, and by the way, you can deliberately decide this because you want to.

00:26:00.480 I've never done this before.

00:26:01.900 And that's actually a part of the reason I should do it.

00:26:05.200 And I'm going to be okay with learning.

00:26:07.480 I'm going to be okay with fumbling it up and messing it up here and there.

00:26:11.440 And I'll just figure it out along the way.

00:26:14.380 Jiu-jitsu is the same way.

00:26:15.560 We have a lot of guys who say, Hey, I'm going to take jujitsu class for the first time.

00:26:19.340 What, what, what lesson do you have for me?

00:26:21.300 Or what, what tips do you have for me?

00:26:23.180 Just go with an open heart and open mind.

00:26:25.040 That's it.

00:26:26.480 I don't have any tips.

00:26:27.780 I don't have any tricks or any strategies or any, any submissions or any, or any fundamentals

00:26:34.220 you need to know.

00:26:34.840 You're going to learn all that.

00:26:36.020 Just baseline, go with an open heart and an open mind and figure it out along the way.

00:26:42.140 Cause that's what everybody else has done.

00:26:43.920 Who's ever gone before you.

00:26:45.840 Yeah.

00:26:47.340 And be okay with sucking.

00:26:49.740 Yeah.

00:26:50.320 Like you go at the door.

00:26:51.620 Yeah.

00:26:52.400 And even make fun of yourself.

00:26:54.220 You know, I remember in jujitsu when I'd get, you know, submitted by somebody, I would

00:26:59.480 just play with it.

00:27:00.420 You know, like, Holy cow.

00:27:01.500 That was awesome.

00:27:02.180 Like, I, I didn't even see that coming.

00:27:04.800 Like, that's amazing.

00:27:05.880 I thought I was capable, you know, like just play with it.

00:27:08.440 It's okay.

00:27:09.380 It's okay.

00:27:10.200 Guys, but just let it down for a minute.

00:27:12.580 And just, I hate to say, be vulnerable.

00:27:14.640 It's not that it's just like, just be okay with not being awesome.

00:27:18.820 Sometimes.

00:27:20.260 Yeah.

00:27:21.140 Yeah.

00:27:21.720 Well, and if you don't, you're not going to show up again.

00:27:24.160 You're going to give up.

00:27:25.020 That's the beauty of jujitsu, man.

00:27:26.780 Yeah.

00:27:27.060 Forces humility.

00:27:28.540 Yeah.

00:27:28.800 I mean, these big, strong athletic dudes will come into class once, maybe twice, and they'll

00:27:33.620 never come back.

00:27:35.460 Good.

00:27:36.020 Cause I want to know, I want to know who's going to have ego or who's going to be humble enough

00:27:42.280 to be part of the band.

00:27:43.500 You know, I want to know that in jujitsu and other facets of life, weed that stuff out very

00:27:47.800 quickly.

00:27:49.160 Yeah.

00:27:49.860 All right.

00:27:50.720 Patriotic Eagle.

00:27:51.700 Do you believe that society will ever swing back to a more traditional and rugged state

00:27:55.980 of individualism and freedom?

00:27:58.220 If so, what would it take to get there?

00:28:00.680 Freedom will always prevail.

00:28:02.080 It will always, uh, we can voluntarily decide that we want to go that path right now.

00:28:07.500 We can say, Hey, you know what?

00:28:08.560 We're going to make a stand.

00:28:09.800 We're going to stand up for freedom.

00:28:11.640 We're going to stand up for freedom of speech.

00:28:13.420 We're going to give people, not give, we're going to protect people's right.

00:28:17.800 To defend themselves.

00:28:19.160 Uh, we're going to acknowledge that people might have differing opinions than us.

00:28:23.400 And although we may not have to agree or like what they have to say, we should defend

00:28:27.360 their right to say it.

00:28:28.440 We can decide that right now.

00:28:29.980 We can make those decisions voluntarily or alternatively, we can reject those ideas because we're too

00:28:38.060 weak and we're too timid and we're too passive and too scared or too complacent, which is actually

00:28:43.760 the real root of it.

00:28:45.120 Uh, and let those who would love control and power and authority over you continue to do

00:28:50.740 what they do until we've had enough.

00:28:52.880 And that's going to be violent.

00:28:56.220 It's going to be dangerous.

00:28:58.380 Quite literally millions, hundreds of millions of people have died throughout human history

00:29:03.580 because of the direction that we're going right now.

00:29:06.840 And yeah, freedom will always prevail.

00:29:10.440 It's just a matter of if we're willing to get out ahead of it, because if we don't, then

00:29:14.780 people will die.

00:29:15.500 And that isn't hyperbole.

00:29:17.800 When I say things like that, people are like, oh, you're fear mongering.

00:29:21.180 It ain't fear mongering.

00:29:23.040 It's history.

00:29:23.580 It's history.

00:29:24.280 Go, go look at what happened throughout all of history and all of cultures to, to what

00:29:30.780 happened to individuals who let go of their freedoms, who let power, the power of Hungary

00:29:35.360 get control and too much authority.

00:29:37.740 Go look and see what happened and how that played out.

00:29:40.300 People died and not just died horrific.

00:29:45.500 Tragic, miserable circumstances that people have suffered because the power hungry continue

00:29:54.780 to attempt to consolidate that power.

00:29:58.140 We can get out ahead of it right now and say, no, we're not going to do that.

00:30:01.500 We're not going to relinquish our rights to our firearms.

00:30:05.840 You know, I don't like what that person says, but I will defend that person's right to say

00:30:10.120 it.

00:30:10.260 I'm not going to cancel that person.

00:30:11.900 I'm not going to go after their income.

00:30:13.500 I'm not going to attempt to dox them.

00:30:16.020 I'm not going to mock them, ridicule them, intimidate them to being quiet.

00:30:20.140 I'll have discussions with them if I feel so inclined, but I'm not going to use any of

00:30:24.460 these tactics because I believe in the power of free speech.

00:30:27.700 I believe in the power of individuals that can defend and protect themselves and pursue

00:30:32.860 their own way of life.

00:30:33.680 And I don't have to agree with it, but I'm going to defend it.

00:30:37.700 We can decide that now, or we can have the consequence of not doing that thrust upon us

00:30:43.200 and it will be dark and dangerous and deadly.

00:30:45.940 So I fear my greatest fear to the, to the point of this question is that we will collectively

00:30:53.760 wait until people have died and people are subjugated and we're taxed to the hilt and

00:31:00.400 we're told how to live our lives and what we can do.

00:31:02.680 Like I listened to the president talk about, if you do X, Y, and Z, then maybe you can have

00:31:06.960 a 4th of July with some of your house.

00:31:09.320 I can do whatever I want to do.

00:31:14.460 Oh my goodness.

00:31:15.260 And you know what?

00:31:15.800 Millions of people are like, oh yeah, cheers, celebrate.

00:31:18.300 No, that's wrong.

00:31:20.400 That's wrong.

00:31:21.560 And only when the majority of people say, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is not how it works.

00:31:27.300 And you are to serve me, not me individually, but us collectively, and you're not doing it

00:31:34.720 right now.

00:31:35.340 And there's consequences to that.

00:31:37.080 And when we let these individuals feel the full weight of the consequences of doing what

00:31:42.140 they should not be doing, that's when we'll begin to make the changes.

00:31:45.400 We're not there yet, unfortunately, but we ought to get there quick.

00:31:48.520 Otherwise it's going to get nasty.

00:31:51.160 I, I shouldn't have to point this out, but I just feel like, I think we lose what freedom

00:31:59.840 is.

00:32:00.240 And, and to this person's question, it's, it's individualism, it's sovereignty.

00:32:07.640 There is no freedom in the space of like, not trusting people to make the decisions on

00:32:15.100 their own, right?

00:32:16.140 Like security, safety, and putting constraints in place to, to, to take care of people and

00:32:24.840 not have them take care of themselves.

00:32:26.280 Those things are, are often in conflict with each other.

00:32:29.540 And, and I just, it just blows my mind.

00:32:32.740 How, how acceptable to your point.

00:32:35.940 Like we watch the news and we hear things like a president saying, Oh, you know, we're

00:32:40.960 going to hopefully get kids back to school.

00:32:43.320 You have a say when my neighborhood is choosing when my kid goes to elementary school, really

00:32:53.140 a guy in Washington DC knows what's best for my neighborhood and for the kids in my neighborhood

00:33:00.020 and my own children.

00:33:02.020 But it, but it blows my mind how we all like so many people think that's the case that they

00:33:07.760 actually like, Oh yeah, I sure hope so.

00:33:09.880 Like they're giving over their freedom for security and respond and they're taking no

00:33:16.580 responsibility in things.

00:33:18.080 So not only do we need to do that, like have that mentality, but we also have to believe

00:33:23.540 in mankind.

00:33:24.720 We actually have to believe in people to make the decisions of what's best for themselves.

00:33:29.780 I'm not saying we can't serve people, but you can't force people's hand.

00:33:35.020 And, and when government attempts to do that almost all the time, there's an exact correlation

00:33:42.740 of freedoms being lost and it's up to us to decide.

00:33:47.300 And there has to be consequences to your decisions.

00:33:49.700 You know, if you make bad life decisions, then there has to be a weight associated with

00:33:54.080 that.

00:33:54.920 And it's hard and it's painful.

00:33:57.060 I have personal friends and family members that have made bad choices and I feel for them.

00:34:02.000 I really do.

00:34:03.740 And I attempt to help to the degree that I can as an individual.

00:34:08.120 It is, I don't feel it's the government's job.

00:34:10.280 It's my job as a friend and family member.

00:34:12.100 I made a post on Instagram the other day.

00:34:13.540 Take care of yourself.

00:34:14.560 Take care of your family.

00:34:15.600 Take care of your friends, your neighbors, then your community in that order.

00:34:20.960 It isn't the government's job to come in and rescue people.

00:34:23.740 It's just to create a level playing field or ensure there's a level playing field and then

00:34:27.620 get the hell out of the way.

00:34:28.560 Like these are the rules we're out, right?

00:34:32.500 It's not, it's not equity, which is equal outcome.

00:34:36.120 It's a quality.

00:34:37.000 Let's just make sure that everybody's equal under the law, that we all have the rights

00:34:41.840 that we, that we have been born into and that we can pursue our life, liberty, and the pursuit

00:34:48.400 of happiness.

00:34:48.860 And along with that, some people are going to make bad choices and some people are going

00:34:55.200 to get hurt.

00:34:56.860 And some people are going to live miserable existences because they've made bad choices.

00:35:02.220 And by the way, it's not like those same people are going to live an amazing life because there's

00:35:08.520 a government program.

00:35:09.880 No, of course not.

00:35:10.640 Handheld them.

00:35:11.780 Of course not.

00:35:12.880 There's no difference between those two.

00:35:14.880 Yeah, you're exactly right.

00:35:15.980 In fact, it'll only get worse, but because then it spills over to other people.

00:35:20.160 But yeah, I believe in humans, individuals.

00:35:23.320 You know, I believe that individuals, A, can make the right choices, B, learn from their

00:35:26.820 mistakes, and C, that will be gracious and charitable with their own resources and time

00:35:31.740 and attention.

00:35:32.600 You know, if one of my neighbors was dealing with a medical condition or had a financial

00:35:36.980 situation, you don't think I'd go down there and help that person out around the house

00:35:40.300 or invite their kids over or lend them a little bit of money to be able to help them make the

00:35:44.880 mortgage payment.

00:35:45.480 You're damn right I would do that.

00:35:46.920 Yeah.

00:35:47.120 And I have done that.

00:35:48.560 And I think most people would do that.

00:35:50.740 Yeah.

00:35:50.920 And think about the difference for that neighbor.

00:35:54.000 Okay.

00:35:54.360 So you have two scenarios.

00:35:56.580 Their neighborhood or their community pulls together and helps them versus I get a handout

00:36:02.820 from the government.

00:36:03.920 Right.

00:36:04.020 What perception or feeling about myself is different in those two circumstances?

00:36:12.240 Right.

00:36:12.580 Well, I get a feeling of self-worth, of people caring, obligation to my community.

00:36:19.400 Obligation.

00:36:20.720 All those things happen.

00:36:22.580 When I get a check from the government, I'm not better off.

00:36:27.280 Right.

00:36:27.580 I might have cash in my pocket, but I didn't learn anything.

00:36:31.300 I didn't get more valued.

00:36:32.720 I didn't go, oh, geez, you know what?

00:36:34.480 The federal government gave me a stimulus check.

00:36:36.500 You know what?

00:36:37.660 I am loved.

00:36:39.180 Yeah.

00:36:40.300 No.

00:36:41.180 That is not present to us.

00:36:42.940 And I think you hit on the right thing when you were talking about obligation, because

00:36:45.960 now I have to look that person in the eye.

00:36:47.800 Actually, more importantly, that person needs to look me in the eye and know that I lent him

00:36:51.760 a thousand dollars to get some groceries or the mortgage payment.

00:36:55.160 And he has to look at me every day.

00:36:57.480 Yep.

00:36:57.920 And what is he going to do?

00:36:59.420 He's not going to flander that, right?

00:37:01.900 He's going to go, you know what?

00:37:02.980 I better get my shit together because I feel guilty every single time I see Ryan.

00:37:06.540 Yes.

00:37:07.040 If I'm not using that money wisely.

00:37:09.120 That should be his attitude.

00:37:10.580 That should be what he's experiencing.

00:37:11.880 I had a very close friend and I won't name any names, but had an opportunity to present

00:37:16.080 to self, uh, was in a bit of a financial bind at the time, but wanted to take advantage of

00:37:20.520 this opportunity.

00:37:21.780 Uh, and he had proven himself in the past that he was trustworthy and, and he reached out to

00:37:26.780 me and said, Hey man, I really want to take advantage of this opportunity.

00:37:29.780 Unfortunately, financially, I'm not in the position to be able to do it.

00:37:32.140 Would you help me?

00:37:33.100 And I said, yeah, of course I will help you because he'd proven and we built up a friendship

00:37:37.460 and he had been trustworthy with me in the past.

00:37:39.260 And so, um, I lent him a little bit of money.

00:37:41.620 It wasn't a lot, lent him a little bit of money.

00:37:43.720 And we came up with some terms on how he's going to pay that back.

00:37:46.920 And he paid it back like immediately, like within a couple of months, he paid it back.

00:37:51.440 And there was some other opportunities that came from him, from him for us, but also from

00:37:55.300 him because he was able to take advantage of that opportunity.

00:37:57.540 This is the value of being able to serve other people.

00:38:00.440 And by the way, putting yourself into a situation where you can, you know, I had a guy messaged

00:38:04.880 me yesterday on Instagram and he said, Hey, um, again, not naming names, but he said, Hey,

00:38:10.960 I feel like at some point it's getting closer to where my, I may be asked to, uh, jeopardize

00:38:16.580 my morals at my work.

00:38:19.020 What would you do in this situation?

00:38:20.960 I said, get your financial house in order right now.

00:38:25.040 Like get, get your money dialed in, build up a bank account, build up reserves, start investing,

00:38:30.740 build a side income.

00:38:32.320 I remember years ago, one of my very first coaches that I ever hired told me about a story

00:38:37.200 and he wanted to leave his financial planning practice.

00:38:40.460 He was working with another organization at the time.

00:38:42.620 And he went to his, his boss at the time and told him what he was planning on doing.

00:38:47.260 And the boss was very dismissive of it.

00:38:49.320 And eventually my coach at the time told his boss, he said, you know what?

00:38:52.640 I'd rather live in a cardboard box and be your bitch for the rest of my life.

00:38:56.280 And he marched out of the door and he's making hundreds of millions of dollars a year now.

00:39:03.180 And, and he, he taught me the term of an FU fund.

00:39:07.460 And so he has a million dollars on hand.

00:39:11.180 So he could say FU to whoever he wants.

00:39:14.320 At any time, at any point, he can say FU.

00:39:17.160 If he's, if he's tempted to jeopardize his morals or asked to do something out of line with,

00:39:22.340 with his integrity, he can say FU because he has the financial sovereignty to be able to do it.

00:39:28.400 And this individual who I talked with on social media doesn't have that power right now.

00:39:33.580 And because he doesn't have that power, when somebody asks him to jeopardize his morals,

00:39:39.020 he'll be more likely to do it because he doesn't have things in place where he, he,

00:39:44.800 he can't say FU and walk away and stand by his convictions.

00:39:49.880 Guys, we've been talking about it.

00:39:51.320 Like, so what, so I think this goes back to the, the question that he was asking.

00:39:55.480 Like, what can we do?

00:39:56.440 Get your, get your financial affairs in order, get your house in order, get your fitness in check,

00:40:01.880 get everything dialed in, build some skills, build a network, get everything dialed in

00:40:08.180 and then teach other people how to do it.

00:40:12.260 Yeah.

00:40:16.300 Libby, Libby W.

00:40:18.600 So mates, what character traits do you look for in potential brothers slash men?

00:40:24.200 Do you stand shoulder to shoulder with?

00:40:25.800 And I'm trying to build a solid community of men around me and want to know what to look for,

00:40:30.760 for a start.

00:40:33.300 I would look for humility.

00:40:35.540 That's a really important one.

00:40:37.080 Somebody who's humble.

00:40:38.540 If it's a know-it-all, I'm not interested.

00:40:41.660 And now if it's somebody who knows a lot, but they're still humble, that's different.

00:40:44.840 But a know-it-all is different than somebody who knows a lot and is humble.

00:40:48.680 Yeah.

00:40:48.940 Humility is important.

00:40:50.540 Loyalty is important.

00:40:53.160 Integrity is important to me.

00:40:54.960 I'll call it hardness, but that would include strength and grit and resilience and fortitude.

00:41:02.880 We'll just call it hardness.

00:41:04.580 That's what I would look for in individual.

00:41:08.300 And then successful.

00:41:09.400 You know, I want people in my corner who are hyper-successful on different fronts,

00:41:15.480 whether it's financially or within their family.

00:41:18.040 Maybe it's a set of skills that they have, their ability to grow their business,

00:41:21.880 their bank account, their fitness.

00:41:23.620 I want successful people.

00:41:25.800 So again, humility.

00:41:26.820 What did I say?

00:41:27.340 Humility, success, integrity, honor, loyalty, and hardness.

00:41:32.540 That's what I would look for.

00:41:33.520 Would you add, the only thing I would add to it, and I'm asking if you would add it,

00:41:38.240 is just hungry, you know, hungry for more.

00:41:41.800 Yeah, I think that's good.

00:41:42.600 They're kind of passionate.

00:41:44.080 Yeah, ambitious.

00:41:45.160 Yeah.

00:41:45.560 I think that's good.

00:41:46.460 Because you could have successful people and they're in their life and they're just kind of like,

00:41:49.920 you know, like floating along and that doesn't sound appealing to me.

00:41:53.880 Yeah, I agree.

00:41:54.620 I mean, there's a thousand virtues and characteristics that we can list out.

00:41:58.460 Yeah.

00:41:59.020 Go down the list.

00:42:00.380 But I agree with that.

00:42:01.660 They're hungry, they're passionate, they're ambitious.

00:42:04.300 Yeah, for sure.

00:42:05.740 Yeah.

00:42:06.380 Cool.

00:42:07.440 You know, we talked earlier when someone was, one of the questions was, is like,

00:42:13.160 you know, the momentum around this movement and creating a broader brotherhood.

00:42:20.400 You know, maybe something to mention is future Order of Man events coming out this year.

00:42:25.620 I think that's a pivotal point and thing to just to bring up briefly.

00:42:30.760 Yeah, so in the fall, so I've got three events on my mind.

00:42:33.820 I don't have the dates pinned down, but we're going to do a fall main event, which is, we'll

00:42:38.440 usually have about a hundred guys out here to my property in Maine.

00:42:41.160 So we'll do that in the fall.

00:42:42.240 We're also going to do a legacy event.

00:42:43.760 That's a father-son event.

00:42:46.000 Father-like son event.

00:42:48.600 That means you could be an uncle and you've got boys that need your help or something.

00:42:52.760 And we've had that in the past, which is super cool.

00:42:55.040 Yeah.

00:42:55.320 Very cool.

00:42:55.460 Yeah, or their stepfather or adopted children, that sort of thing.

00:43:00.580 And then one of the things that I'd really like to do in the winter of next year, so I'm

00:43:04.700 thinking probably January, February next year is do a cold, extreme cold version of the-

00:43:13.860 The main event.

00:43:14.260 Not the main event, because that's the bigger hunter guy event.

00:43:17.260 I'm thinking the uprising event.

00:43:20.460 So that's 28 guys.

00:43:22.800 And we'll just come out here and we'll freeze our balls off for three days.

00:43:26.200 But we'll put some meaning behind it.

00:43:28.120 So we're not just freezing.

00:43:29.340 There's actual purpose behind it.

00:43:31.460 We'll do little snow forts and we'll do some ice fishing and we'll do some hikes and we'll

00:43:39.300 just suffer for three days.

00:43:40.640 And if you lose a finger, you get a badge.

00:43:44.060 Good.

00:43:44.860 Yeah.

00:43:45.780 It makes you more of a man.

00:43:47.260 That's that hardness that we were talking about.

00:43:50.000 I love it.

00:43:51.380 Cool.

00:43:51.880 So stay tuned.

00:43:52.900 Stay tuned.

00:43:53.400 Maybe even subscribe.

00:43:54.580 Go to orderofman.com.

00:43:55.840 Yeah.

00:43:56.120 Get on the newsletter list.

00:43:57.420 Like if you go to order, we've been sending out weekly emails for the past three or four

00:44:01.820 weeks now at this point.

00:44:03.080 And I've gotten a lot of positive response on that.

00:44:05.460 So, uh, yeah, if you're interested in receiving those emails, uh, or you're interested in learning

00:44:12.080 about the, uh, the events that we have coming up, then yeah, orderofman.com, whatever page

00:44:17.200 you're on, there's usually a sidebar or something where you can drop your name and email address

00:44:21.320 and we'll make sure we get you all those details.

00:44:23.300 Cool.

00:44:24.040 All right.

00:44:24.620 One arm, everything.

00:44:26.260 Do you meditate?

00:44:27.320 And if so, what for?

00:44:29.200 I'm thinking about giving it a try, but I don't know where to start.

00:44:31.900 So many videos, but don't ever know what to believe anymore.

00:44:35.260 Thank you.

00:44:36.200 Yeah.

00:44:36.600 I don't really meditate.

00:44:38.260 You're not a meditator.

00:44:39.220 Yeah.

00:44:39.640 No, not, not in the formal sense of like sit down and put on like a thing, like a music

00:44:45.620 or an app or something.

00:44:46.900 Like, I don't do that.

00:44:48.100 I think there's value to that.

00:44:49.520 I, it, I just, I'm not interested, frankly, but there are some meditative circumstances

00:44:56.840 that I find myself or that I put myself in, you know, yesterday as I'm working on the

00:45:01.280 canoe that, that actually is very meditative to me because I will sit down there and I

00:45:06.180 will either sand or work with my spoke shave and shave the wood down.

00:45:10.320 And I might be in quiet or I might be listening to some music.

00:45:13.660 And frankly, I'm not really thinking about anything else.

00:45:16.240 I'm just letting it flow just wherever it goes.

00:45:19.480 I find myself in the same way, uh, when it comes to archery.

00:45:23.380 So I have targets outside and I'll go out there and I'll shoot 40, 50, 60 arrows, whatever

00:45:28.040 it may be.

00:45:29.300 Uh, and I'm thinking about the arrow and the path of the arrow and, uh, just trying

00:45:34.300 to improve, but letting my thoughts, excuse me, go wherever they go.

00:45:37.820 I find myself that way with jujitsu and even just walking around the field.

00:45:42.300 I found, I find myself doing that.

00:45:44.440 Does that for some people?

00:45:45.620 Yeah.

00:45:45.900 I mean, I don't run personally, you know, but like, if I'm just walking around the field,

00:45:49.380 like just, I don't have any, I don't have any objective.

00:45:52.420 Like, I don't go into it.

00:45:53.720 Like, Oh, I got to figure out this plan.

00:45:55.060 I just go into it.

00:45:55.960 I do that at some point, but not when I'm walking, like, just, just think, like, just

00:46:00.020 be present.

00:46:00.660 And sometimes I'll look at the mountains and be inspired by the mountains or I'll walk

00:46:06.140 a little bit into the woods out of the path and just look at the different kinds of trees

00:46:10.000 and the knots that the vines create and things like that.

00:46:13.420 So that that's what it is for me.

00:46:15.260 Um, yeah, but yeah, as far as like sitting down and doing a meditative, like 15 minutes

00:46:21.720 of silence, like, yeah, I've never done it like that.

00:46:24.380 So, yeah, I, I, I actually meditate.

00:46:27.260 I use, um, what's the, um, Oh my dear Lord.

00:46:31.740 There's like head space.

00:46:32.980 I think head space is the one of the, I think is like guided meditations.

00:46:38.120 Yeah.

00:46:38.680 But I think the key thing is just focus on controlling your mind.

00:46:42.780 You know, like we talk about Jim Allen's book, you know, as a man thinketh and, and it's

00:46:47.980 funny how often people, we blow off that control, right?

00:46:52.440 It's like, we take no ownership over what we're pondering about.

00:46:57.300 So, and I think that's what meditation does is it, it's a practice of controlling one's

00:47:02.640 mind, you know?

00:47:04.020 And I, and I think you could do that in all kinds of examples, whether it's through working

00:47:08.440 or, or running.

00:47:09.720 But in fact, I was watching, maybe I shouldn't make reference to this.

00:47:13.080 So I was watching this movie, chaos walking.

00:47:15.960 I even know how I ended up with this.

00:47:17.340 Oh, we went to the movies and it was like the only movie that was in the movie theater.

00:47:23.360 Yeah.

00:47:23.520 It's weird.

00:47:24.340 But, but these guys, they end up on a planet and their thoughts are, you can hear each other's

00:47:31.320 thoughts.

00:47:33.040 So like you and I are just walking around and you can hear what you're, what you're

00:47:37.040 pondering about.

00:47:38.080 Yeah.

00:47:38.700 Yeah.

00:47:39.160 And I thought about it's like, and there's obviously moments in this movie where this

00:47:42.980 kid can't shut his mind off.

00:47:45.340 Right.

00:47:45.900 And, and people can keep hearing him and he can't like keep a secret.

00:47:49.540 He can't do anything because he can't turn off his head.

00:47:52.180 And I'm like, he needs to practice meditating.

00:47:55.320 You know, it's like, come on, you can't control your mind.

00:47:57.540 You know, and, and I really made me think about like how often we don't think that,

00:48:03.620 right.

00:48:03.780 We don't, we don't take ownership over our thought process and what we're pondering about.

00:48:08.120 And, and I think meditation is a good way to kind of practice that.

00:48:11.260 That's a good point.

00:48:12.280 That actually goes back to what we were talking about with imposter syndrome.

00:48:15.700 Yeah.

00:48:16.180 So, so I know a lot of people who will get in their heads in a negative way and they'll

00:48:20.440 just spiral out of control.

00:48:21.840 Well, I'm not good at this.

00:48:22.780 I don't deserve it.

00:48:23.540 I don't, you know, and they'll just keep going.

00:48:24.740 And it's like, just tap the brakes in your mind, tap the brakes.

00:48:29.200 Okay.

00:48:29.880 Yes.

00:48:30.360 You don't know.

00:48:31.440 You aren't good at this.

00:48:33.300 Okay.

00:48:34.140 So yes, now let's redirect it to, instead of using that as a self-sabotaging mechanism,

00:48:40.800 use it as a self-serving mechanism.

00:48:43.000 Oh, I don't know, but I would like to find out.

00:48:45.660 I don't know how to do this.

00:48:47.360 Okay.

00:48:47.760 Well, what would it take to figure it out?

00:48:49.940 Oh, well, I can go watch this YouTube video, or I can buy this instructional manual.

00:48:54.740 And then you start using your mind and channeling your mind towards productive outcomes.

00:48:59.160 And isn't that a beautiful thing about being a human being?

00:49:01.940 I think we talked about this on Friday, on Friday's Iron Council call.

00:49:05.500 But the difference, one of the differences between us and every other beast is, I use

00:49:10.340 deer as an example.

00:49:11.700 A deer can't make a conscious decision of why it does what it does.

00:49:16.320 It's just instinctual.

00:49:17.460 It just does.

00:49:17.740 It hears something, it feels something.

00:49:21.020 I mean, even the moon will affect deer eating habits and patterns, but they don't know why

00:49:26.940 it does.

00:49:27.700 It just does.

00:49:28.860 And so they react to their instinct to that.

00:49:32.320 And that's all it is.

00:49:33.800 No self-reflection.

00:49:34.960 None whatsoever.

00:49:36.800 We can do that.

00:49:39.140 We can self-reflect.

00:49:40.940 Oh, well, I think I should do this, but why should I do this?

00:49:43.700 Well, what if I did the other thing?

00:49:45.140 And if I was going to do the other thing, how much more effective would that be?

00:49:48.520 So we have this beautiful tool called conscious thought.

00:49:54.420 And it's deliberate, and it can be intentional.

00:49:56.480 And yet so many of us don't utilize it, and we act no better, no different than the deer

00:50:01.620 who just acts instinctually out of fear or at its base level, just trying to stay alive.

00:50:07.780 Well, we're past that.

00:50:09.460 You know what I really like?

00:50:10.540 Because I've always used our ability to self-reflect or internalize.

00:50:16.520 It's really, if you think about it, it's the power to create.

00:50:20.420 And we can create.

00:50:22.600 Yeah.

00:50:22.800 And we can take any moment and create it.

00:50:25.440 We can create that meaning.

00:50:27.140 We can create what that means.

00:50:28.560 It's the power of creation, mental creation.

00:50:33.500 I like that.

00:50:34.320 I like it.

00:50:34.660 I think that's-

00:50:35.180 Good job, Kip.

00:50:36.340 Yeah.

00:50:36.780 That's amazing.

00:50:38.500 How did you come up with that?

00:50:40.160 You know, you're rubbing off on me, man.

00:50:42.660 Good ideas for me.

00:50:45.260 I'm going to give that one to you 100%.

00:50:46.860 I like that.

00:50:49.320 Pat my own back.

00:50:50.140 All right.

00:50:50.760 Austin.

00:50:52.460 Austin-y.

00:50:52.820 The reason I didn't, by the way, the reason I didn't

00:50:54.860 respond immediately to you-

00:50:56.880 Because you're going to-

00:50:57.540 Yeah.

00:50:58.620 No, it's because I wrote it down.

00:51:00.860 I was, when you were talking, I was writing it down.

00:51:02.760 I'm like, that's actually really good.

00:51:04.040 So that's why I didn't respond immediately.

00:51:05.720 It was that impactful in my life, Kip.

00:51:08.000 All right.

00:51:08.320 Now I'm feeling embarrassed.

00:51:09.820 Gee, stop.

00:51:10.480 I'm done, man.

00:51:11.340 Let's go.

00:51:11.660 No, stop.

00:51:13.920 All right.

00:51:14.340 Let's go.

00:51:14.760 Let's drive on.

00:51:15.920 Okay.

00:51:16.240 We're both embarrassing ourselves here at this point.

00:51:17.860 Austin-y36.

00:51:18.900 What are your thoughts on Dwayne The Rock Johnson running for president?

00:51:22.500 Did he announce this?

00:51:24.220 I don't know.

00:51:25.900 I mean, I think probably if he ran for president-

00:51:28.160 Awesome.

00:51:28.180 We're not up to speed.

00:51:29.820 He would probably win if he ran.

00:51:32.160 Yeah.

00:51:32.760 I don't know anything about his politics.

00:51:34.780 I know that he endorsed our current president, so that makes me weary.

00:51:38.440 But outside of that, I don't know enough about his politics.

00:51:43.340 Look, I mean, here's the deal.

00:51:45.400 Here's what I believe in.

00:51:46.240 I believe in the Constitution.

00:51:48.580 I believe in those individuals who will support and defend all aspects of the Constitution,

00:51:53.520 not pick and choose what they like and what they think.

00:51:55.800 I believe in individuals' right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:52:02.520 And I think the government's role is to defend the borders and leave everybody the hell alone.

00:52:11.080 Yeah.

00:52:11.880 And I believe in personal responsibility.

00:52:14.760 Yeah.

00:52:14.920 And I think that last, not the last one, personal responsibility, but leaving people alone is the Achilles heel of most presidents.

00:52:22.860 Right.

00:52:23.400 Because they have to give into the social pressures of like, oh, I'm going to implement something to fix the masses that are too stupid to decide something on there.

00:52:33.820 Like, it's all about the feel goods, man.

00:52:36.400 I mean, I don't know.

00:52:37.940 I think every president, I mean, it would be, how amazing would it be for a president to go, so what are you going to do about this, Mr. President?

00:52:47.500 And they go, nothing.

00:52:49.360 That's their choice.

00:52:51.600 Yes.

00:52:51.920 We're going to get out of the way.

00:52:53.560 Wouldn't that be awesome?

00:52:55.140 Wouldn't that be awesome?

00:52:56.160 That's actually not, that's not in our responsibility and purview.

00:52:58.820 So we're actually not going to do anything about that.

00:53:01.000 Yeah.

00:53:01.360 I would like that.

00:53:02.160 Yeah.

00:53:02.260 We're going to get out of the way.

00:53:03.980 Yeah.

00:53:04.360 That's what we're going to do.

00:53:05.420 We believe and we trust in our people to do and do the right things for their communities and for themselves.

00:53:12.780 Yep.

00:53:14.100 I would vote.

00:53:14.940 Or even the states.

00:53:15.760 Even if they said that on the states.

00:53:17.340 We trust the states to implement their necessary laws that are part of the union.

00:53:22.740 Oh, man.

00:53:23.500 Yeah.

00:53:23.780 I look at it a little bit as the government's job in a way is just to clear the path a little bit.

00:53:31.540 Yeah.

00:53:32.000 Not totally, because I think people need to make their own paths, but just remove the obstacles and the barriers, you know?

00:53:38.980 So that's external threats from foreign countries, things like that.

00:53:43.140 But ultimately, it's just, okay, here's the playing field.

00:53:47.800 You guys utilize it the way that you want.

00:53:49.700 We're going to make sure it's a level playing field.

00:53:51.460 We're going to ensure that people are following the rules, that they're not cheating.

00:53:57.360 And then outside of that, like, it's your field.

00:54:01.720 You know?

00:54:02.000 It's your field.

00:54:02.720 So go play.

00:54:03.900 Go play the game.

00:54:05.840 I can't help but think of a scripture reference of, like, the dispensation of almost all men, right?

00:54:12.740 As soon as they get a little bit of power, they'll practice unrighteous dominion.

00:54:17.040 Yeah.

00:54:17.280 And one of the key reasons of why men practice unrighteous dominion is because they seek the honors of men.

00:54:27.720 So you want a president that doesn't practice unrighteous dominion?

00:54:32.340 You shouldn't be seeking the honors of men.

00:54:34.120 Yeah.

00:54:36.440 Yeah, that's hard because a lot of those who are in politics obviously have political and self-serving aspirations.

00:54:44.120 And I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that.

00:54:46.680 But when it comes at the expense of other individuals, yeah, that's a problem.

00:54:50.600 Yeah.

00:54:50.860 Yeah.

00:54:51.440 I mean, you could think of one shining example of a president that's a perfect example of this, and it would be George Washington.

00:54:59.020 Of course.

00:54:59.440 He had no desire to even want to be president.

00:55:04.620 Didn't even want the office.

00:55:06.720 He could have been made king.

00:55:08.100 And he said, no, I'm not doing that.

00:55:10.340 Yeah.

00:55:10.360 He was like, I'll do this because I've been asked to and because the country needs me, but I don't want it.

00:55:16.940 Like, he purposely did not want to be president multiple times.

00:55:20.820 Yeah.

00:55:21.020 It's crazy.

00:55:22.340 We need more men like that.

00:55:24.280 The problem is that you can make an actually pretty amazing and lucrative career off being a politician.

00:55:31.960 Yeah.

00:55:33.080 You shouldn't be able to make money being a politician.

00:55:35.880 You shouldn't be able to write a bunch of books about it.

00:55:37.700 It should be a sacrifice.

00:55:38.660 That's it.

00:55:39.620 Yeah.

00:55:39.740 And then you should want to go back to your life to lead your family, to lead your community, to start your business, to pick up where you left off.

00:55:46.100 I actually think that with missionary work for older couples, like these are individuals who have the financial means to go on a mission on their own accord, spend their own money, and they leave their families and their grandkids and their work and their friends and their own pursuits for two years to go serve the Lord.

00:56:07.060 And then they, only then, when they're done, do they come back and they can get back into the swing of things, but they do it as a sacrificial, and I'm not saying they don't get anything out of it.

00:56:16.820 Of course they do.

00:56:18.020 Yeah.

00:56:18.720 You know, they get the feeling and the experience and the emotion.

00:56:23.300 But the reward is not any, it requires sacrifice.

00:56:27.440 Yeah.

00:56:27.620 No financial benefit.

00:56:28.980 Yeah.

00:56:29.160 Exactly.

00:56:29.520 So, but yeah, I wish more people were willing to make that sacrifice, but you don't have to say, you don't sacrifice when you become a politician, you elevate your status anymore.

00:56:40.280 Yeah.

00:56:40.880 There's no sacrifice to it.

00:56:44.200 Matt Tilton, 57.

00:56:45.900 How long did it take you before you really became comfortable in jujitsu?

00:56:50.600 It took me like a month, and then I felt really comfortable.

00:56:53.800 And what was your definition of being comfortable?

00:56:56.340 Ever since then, it's just been comfortable.

00:56:57.380 Like, I don't, I don't ever get submitted.

00:57:00.320 Yeah.

00:57:02.500 I'd like going every day.

00:57:04.000 I just really want to go.

00:57:04.600 I just go and dominate.

00:57:05.800 Yeah.

00:57:06.020 When I'm in pain, like it just kind of goes away.

00:57:08.600 And when, when a kid who's, you know, 40 pounds lighter than me rolls with me and catches me in something, I'm like, I'm comfortable with that.

00:57:17.300 Like, that's cool.

00:57:17.920 Like, I have no problem with that.

00:57:19.280 Doesn't threaten me.

00:57:20.120 Yeah.

00:57:20.260 It's been so easy.

00:57:21.460 I don't know what everybody's been complaining about.

00:57:23.460 Holy shit.

00:57:24.100 Like, okay, let's, let's talk about this in, from, from the perspective I'm sharing, but let's also answer it in the spirit of which it's intended.

00:57:32.340 Yeah.

00:57:32.780 Uh, so to the, the truth of it is you'll never be comfortable.

00:57:37.020 And that's actually the point is that you'll never, ever, ever be comfortable.

00:57:42.220 Kip, you've been training for what?

00:57:43.860 A dozen or so, 12 years or so.

00:57:46.160 Yeah.

00:57:47.100 13, 13 years.

00:57:48.700 Yeah.

00:57:48.860 Are you comfortable?

00:57:50.520 No.

00:57:52.100 No.

00:57:52.660 Sometimes I, I show up at the mat.

00:57:54.660 I stand there and go, what the freak am I doing?

00:57:58.540 Why am I doing this?

00:58:00.320 Yeah.

00:58:00.800 And in fact, my arm, my elbow has really been hurting over the past week, you know, and so like.

00:58:05.560 Inside or outside?

00:58:06.280 Elbow?

00:58:06.860 Inside or outside?

00:58:08.100 Um.

00:58:09.180 Inside?

00:58:10.200 Just the entire thing.

00:58:14.100 You're right.

00:58:15.460 The elbow.

00:58:16.160 Wait, you know what?

00:58:17.140 There's, you know what?

00:58:17.880 It's just my body.

00:58:18.500 It feels like a hyper extension issue to me is what it feels like.

00:58:22.200 I might have just got my arm cranked a little too hard or something.

00:58:24.520 That's what it feels like.

00:58:25.540 Anyways, uh, I brought that up.

00:58:26.840 Just, I, all I'm saying is like physically, mentally, it's never comforting, but it's,

00:58:32.340 but it's supposed to be that.

00:58:33.640 Okay.

00:58:34.500 Now that we got that out of the way, I think what he's asking is when did you.

00:58:41.420 That initial barrier of like, okay, this is how it is.

00:58:46.180 Right.

00:58:46.420 Like kind of, kind of get into the routine.

00:58:48.700 Little confidence.

00:58:49.640 Yes.

00:58:50.500 Yeah.

00:58:50.760 I would say, I would say I got that as a blue, but when I became a blue belt, I felt,

00:58:56.720 I felt that a little bit.

00:58:58.220 Like I felt like, oh, okay.

00:58:59.840 I, I can actually do this.

00:59:01.340 You know, like I can improve.

00:59:03.000 I can get better.

00:59:04.000 I know a few things.

00:59:05.460 I know some fundamentals.

00:59:06.740 I don't get trapped and caught like every time I roll, like I can hang, you know, even if

00:59:13.800 I go roll the Brown belt, like he's going to have to work to, to, to submit me.

00:59:17.500 He's going to have to put for some effort.

00:59:19.420 Yeah.

00:59:19.820 And, and I felt like when I got my blue belt, that was kind of a physical representation

00:59:24.360 of, okay, yeah, we, we can do this.

00:59:27.500 This is cool.

00:59:28.040 Like you're good.

00:59:28.800 You got this, but I don't think I really felt that before.

00:59:32.100 And I felt not obligated because I really did enjoy going, but I did feel like I had

00:59:37.920 to force myself more through training than I did as I became a blue belt.

00:59:43.540 So yeah.

00:59:44.740 Yeah.

00:59:45.080 And I think there's, there's stages of that, right.

00:59:48.400 Where, where sometimes you might be, you know, it's like a new guy and you're like, maybe

00:59:54.480 a little nervous to roll a theme, right.

00:59:56.280 Cause you don't know his skillset.

00:59:58.340 You're not sure how difficult that's going to be.

01:00:01.160 And then in years you might be more comfortable with rolling anybody.

01:00:05.080 Right.

01:00:05.560 But that's not going to come until time.

01:00:06.920 What I think is really interesting about what you said, Ryan is, is I, I think a lot

01:00:13.540 of that confidence or some of that confidence comes from the fact that, you know, something

01:00:17.120 and what's interesting is new guys.

01:00:20.640 They, I always think of jujitsu as an escalator, right?

01:00:24.000 You hop on the escalator last, everyone's always in front of you as you progress up this

01:00:28.920 escalator.

01:00:29.420 And it's not until someone gets behind you on the escalator.

01:00:32.360 Do you actually get to like, try out your skill, you know, for sure.

01:00:36.140 And what's funny is sometimes, and I think this is a parable to life a little bit is

01:00:39.920 we're going along going, shit, this is tough.

01:00:43.000 And I don't have any confidence.

01:00:44.400 And then you get a chance to test it.

01:00:47.100 And then you go, oh, I do know something.

01:00:50.740 I am progressing.

01:00:52.460 It's just, sometimes you may not know it, you know, and, and as you progress, eventually

01:00:57.060 guys get on the escalator behind you.

01:00:59.080 And, and I think that first time the guy is able to roll with a noob and catch them, you're

01:01:05.820 like, yeah, holy crap.

01:01:07.680 I got a special power or catch a higher belt, you know, just like catch them.

01:01:11.100 You're like, oh, I caught him.

01:01:12.900 You know, I caught him.

01:01:13.740 Yeah.

01:01:13.980 And it might've just been a fluke, but you still caught him.

01:01:16.860 Totally.

01:01:17.440 Totally.

01:01:18.100 And then, and then back to the original points that you're making about never being comfortable.

01:01:23.160 That's when, and I joke around, of course, but that's when the jujitsu gods go, oh,

01:01:28.460 I sense a little bit of ego in you, right?

01:01:31.280 And then the next day you come to the gym and everyone taps you and you're like, oh,

01:01:35.800 yeah, I was just feeling confident about myself, you know?

01:01:38.560 So, well, so one of the things that I've, I've been learning, you're a hundred percent

01:01:42.220 accurate with that.

01:01:43.000 But one of the things I've been learning is that your, your goal doesn't have to be the

01:01:49.620 same with everybody that you roll with.

01:01:51.140 And I used to think, well, to win, you have to submit the person like, that's how you

01:01:57.160 win.

01:01:57.740 And if you're in a tournament, yes, I would agree that that is, you know, you submit them

01:02:01.500 or you beat them on points, whatever.

01:02:02.720 That's obviously the point.

01:02:04.320 But I used to think that about training, like, oh, it's a good role.

01:02:08.200 If I, if I get Kip to submit, that's a good role.

01:02:12.020 Well, that's actually not true.

01:02:14.080 And I've learned that.

01:02:15.100 So I've got Ryan Daggett, for example.

01:02:18.280 So tall guy, he's probably six, four, six, five round belt, really long, long legs, long

01:02:25.880 arms, super long legs.

01:02:28.020 And so when I roll with him, I don't, my goal isn't, yes, my goal is to submit him, of course,

01:02:32.620 but I don't define that as winning.

01:02:34.720 I define it as, okay, well, I'm not going to let him sweep me or I'm not going to let

01:02:39.800 him stretch me out.

01:02:42.180 Yeah.

01:02:42.660 And if I can avoid getting stretched out by him, I feel pretty good about that.

01:02:46.520 And then I roll with Keegan Roberts, who's Pete Roberts' son.

01:02:49.880 Well, Keegan is, he's 17 or 18.

01:02:53.960 And so he's young.

01:02:55.060 He's smaller than me.

01:02:56.160 He's a white belt, but he's amazing.

01:02:59.660 Like his jujitsu IQ is incredible.

01:03:02.500 And he actually hasn't been training that long because he's been so involved in other sports.

01:03:07.060 When I roll with him, I swear, I have to fight as hard as I can not to get stuck in a triangle.

01:03:13.660 He loves the triangle game and he attacks from all different angles, all different positions.

01:03:18.320 And I have to fight hard.

01:03:19.720 He's a white belt.

01:03:21.020 I'm, I'm a blue belt.

01:03:22.780 So I think like, well, I should be able to beat him.

01:03:25.280 No, for me rolling with him, I consider it a win if he's not able to catch me in a triangle.

01:03:32.000 Totally.

01:03:32.820 And then I have other guys who they have different games and I'm like, okay, well, my goal is not to

01:03:37.620 get swept.

01:03:38.120 My goal is not to get triangled.

01:03:39.300 My goal is not to get stretched out.

01:03:40.680 My goal is to submit this individual, my goal.

01:03:42.860 So I go into every training different scenarios with a different.

01:03:47.980 Yes, exactly.

01:03:48.820 Totally.

01:03:49.300 When it's like, I was telling one of the guys here at the office the other day, it's like,

01:03:52.320 there's actually only a handful of guys where I go a hundred percent with, because that's,

01:03:58.460 that's a good role with them.

01:04:00.820 You know what I mean?

01:04:01.740 And there's another guy at the gym.

01:04:04.020 We call him Ironman, insanely strong, like freakish, like it's just horrible.

01:04:11.740 And I've changed my game.

01:04:13.500 I don't even try to submit him.

01:04:15.460 My goal is to stay calm because I, because my natural reaction is to counter his strength,

01:04:21.940 right?

01:04:22.200 So he's like, oh, and then I'm like, oh, and I'm like, why, why am I doing that?

01:04:27.060 Right.

01:04:27.280 So I'm trying to like lose arms, calm, flow with him, use his, try to use his momentum

01:04:33.820 against him.

01:04:34.580 Don't try to fight him.

01:04:35.920 And so I'm being creative in my game with him, you know, and that's my focus with him,

01:04:41.460 you know?

01:04:41.980 So.

01:04:42.960 And the cool thing about that is that you can always create a win for yourself if you look

01:04:47.040 at it that way.

01:04:48.040 Yeah.

01:04:48.620 Cause we're focused on learning.

01:04:50.240 Right.

01:04:50.560 Yeah.

01:04:50.740 And you're not lowering your expectations.

01:04:52.560 That's the other thing that we have to realize too, is like, just because I'll use Keegan

01:04:56.240 as an example, just because I consider it a win.

01:04:59.480 If he doesn't submit me in a triangle, that doesn't mean I'm lowering my expectations.

01:05:03.600 I'm still training.

01:05:04.700 I'm still going hard.

01:05:05.920 I'm still doing it.

01:05:06.740 I'm still attempting to submit him.

01:05:08.560 So I'm not lowering my standard.

01:05:10.900 I'm just reevaluating it or figuring out based on the circumstances, what a win actually

01:05:15.960 is.

01:05:16.240 And that's life too.

01:05:17.520 Right.

01:05:17.880 So you're not always going to get the deal.

01:05:20.840 You're not always going to get the girl.

01:05:22.800 You're not always going to knock it out of the park.

01:05:25.300 You don't always have to, you know, some moves might just be, Hey, I'm just, all I'm doing

01:05:30.540 here is just teeing this up for myself.

01:05:32.340 Or all I'm doing here is taking a break from that, reevaluing my priorities and working

01:05:38.040 towards this.

01:05:38.860 Or all I'm doing right now is, you know, maybe I'm not trying to get super jacked, but

01:05:43.880 I need to lose some weight because I'm running a marathon.

01:05:45.860 And so I'm not going to evaluate my performance based on what I can deadlift, but how far I

01:05:50.600 can run without having to, you know, keel over and throw up.

01:05:54.880 We, we got to be able to pivot and adjust in life based on the circumstances we find ourselves

01:05:59.580 in.

01:05:59.760 And, and here's the kicker because it shows up in jujitsu and it shows up in life.

01:06:03.840 I think is you will play games of excuses in the moment.

01:06:10.040 Totally.

01:06:10.340 Like I've been tempted, like where a guy gets like sweeps me and I, and then in my mind,

01:06:16.840 I will lie to myself and go, Oh, wow.

01:06:20.560 I want to practice off my back.

01:06:23.120 No, no, no, no.

01:06:24.320 I wasn't planning on that before I got swept.

01:06:27.000 Right.

01:06:28.020 And, but, but I'm totally justifying my laziness or the fact that like, I don't want to fight

01:06:33.640 harder or whatever in the moment, like in a split second, I'll make excuses for myself.

01:06:39.160 It's crazy how that stuff shows up.

01:06:41.580 I think you're exactly right.

01:06:42.400 I do that same thing too, but then here's a great life lesson and not enough people will

01:06:46.240 do this.

01:06:48.020 The way that I've gotten over that.

01:06:50.300 What's that?

01:06:51.060 Before you start.

01:06:52.720 No, well, yes.

01:06:53.420 But what I'm going to share is, is something a little different is I verbally compliment

01:06:58.120 the person.

01:06:58.740 So like, let's say Kip, you and I are rolling and you sweep me with some obscure, you know,

01:07:06.260 like interesting technique that I've never seen or experienced before.

01:07:10.280 It would be easy for me to say, well, he's a brown belt.

01:07:12.760 I've never seen that before.

01:07:15.120 That's what we do.

01:07:16.040 Instead, I would say, Whoa, that was really good.

01:07:18.660 I didn't even see that coming.

01:07:21.380 And I, and I compliment the person because there's a lot of things it does.

01:07:25.200 Number one, is it forges a deeper connection between me and you like now you appreciate

01:07:29.020 that, right?

01:07:29.460 You're like, Oh, cool.

01:07:30.180 I feel good about that.

01:07:31.180 So I made, I know you're not angry and I know you're not angry that I swept you.

01:07:34.620 Of course.

01:07:35.480 And also it, for me personally, it triggers curiosity.

01:07:39.420 Yeah.

01:07:40.140 Because if I'm like, Whoa, Kip, that's that.

01:07:43.120 Holy shit.

01:07:43.840 Like you got me like, that was really good in my mind.

01:07:46.900 I'm like, how did he do that?

01:07:49.020 Yeah.

01:07:49.200 So my wheels start, what did he do?

01:07:51.440 How did he set me up?

01:07:52.640 And so it puts me on a better path, you know, and the same thing is true with life.

01:07:58.140 Like when you get hosed or you, here's one I get all the time.

01:08:01.560 I get into comparison trap a lot.

01:08:04.280 We're all comparing myself to another podcaster or another, you know, something similar to

01:08:08.200 what I'm doing here.

01:08:09.020 And I'll be like, Oh, well, if I had what he had, you know, all that kind of stuff.

01:08:13.860 Instead, I say, Whoa, that's actually a really good video.

01:08:18.440 Or, Oh my goodness, that shirt that he just came out with.

01:08:21.180 That's rad or that podcast or that person that he just got on his podcast.

01:08:25.700 That's an incredible podcast guest.

01:08:28.160 And then what it leads me to is, well, how did he do that?

01:08:32.100 How did he get that person?

01:08:33.580 How did he connect with that person?

01:08:35.340 Why did he do it that way?

01:08:36.800 Why is he successful?

01:08:37.820 And it triggers curiosity for me, which stimulates growth and progress in myself rather than saying,

01:08:43.900 well, yeah, if I was in his position, then I'd be able to do that too.

01:08:47.440 That stymies growth.

01:08:49.180 That hinders your progress.

01:08:51.580 Yeah.

01:08:52.540 I, the, the one thing I thought you were going to say is, and I'll use it to like a workout

01:08:58.060 as an example is deciding before I roll that I'm not going to get swept.

01:09:04.100 I'm not going to give up position.

01:09:06.420 Oh yeah.

01:09:06.980 And that way, in the minute of the role, when I get swept, I don't go, Oh yeah, I'll just

01:09:10.260 work out.

01:09:10.600 I'm like, no, that went against what I've decided.

01:09:13.300 Right.

01:09:13.420 And I think even like, we can do that on workouts.

01:09:15.560 I've done that.

01:09:16.240 I do that on work.

01:09:17.120 I did it this morning.

01:09:18.800 I, this morning I had chest, I had chest tries and calves.

01:09:23.820 That was my workout.

01:09:24.940 I skipped calves.

01:09:26.540 I didn't plan on skipping calves, but I did when calves came.

01:09:30.280 Why?

01:09:30.840 Well, I went snowboarding yesterday and you know, I got my legs, dude, I seriously made

01:09:35.440 an excuse.

01:09:35.840 Just, but, but if I, if I went to the gym and before I started, I said, I'm not going

01:09:41.200 to skip any of the exercises, 100% exactly what it's part of my program.

01:09:48.080 Then when that comes, I go, no, nope.

01:09:50.800 I know better.

01:09:51.560 Got to do it.

01:09:52.200 Got to do better.

01:09:53.300 Yeah.

01:09:54.100 One of the things I've been working on with my oldest son, cause we trained together a

01:09:57.680 couple of days a week is, and it's me and him and one other individual.

01:10:01.640 And when he rolls with this other individuals, Brody Cousineau, he's a, he's a friend and

01:10:05.040 training partner, but so Breckin will roll with him and or me and he'll get swept.

01:10:10.800 And when he gets swept, he'll like flop and say, darn.

01:10:15.100 And I told him, I'm like, Breck, you got to stop saying that.

01:10:18.380 And he's like, why?

01:10:19.780 Like I'm frustrated.

01:10:21.360 It's, it's not over, bro.

01:10:23.680 Yeah.

01:10:24.420 Like, okay.

01:10:25.100 So I just took your feet out from under you.

01:10:27.900 It's not, I didn't finish yet.

01:10:30.100 Yeah.

01:10:30.460 Like I didn't roll up on top of you.

01:10:32.200 Like you could have just popped on your side, shrimped away and got back into position.

01:10:36.300 But when I take your feet or your knees from under you and you say, darn, you're thinking

01:10:42.140 about what happened rather than what could happen next.

01:10:46.080 Yeah.

01:10:46.680 So stop saying darn every time you get swept.

01:10:50.000 And when you get swept, just pop back up on your knees real quick.

01:10:52.760 Yeah.

01:10:53.000 Say, nope.

01:10:53.820 Nope.

01:10:54.060 Yeah, exactly.

01:10:55.720 So I've been working with him on that, but I think we do that, right?

01:10:58.860 Like we get defeated, you know, we get one little blow and we're like, oh, darn, it ain't

01:11:03.960 over, bro.

01:11:04.660 I'll tell you when it's over.

01:11:06.220 And this ain't it.

01:11:07.340 You know, you might've got a punch in right now, but it ain't over.

01:11:10.260 Yeah.

01:11:10.640 It's only over when you succumb to it, you give in and you flop on the floor and say,

01:11:14.620 that sucked.

01:11:15.820 I didn't suck.

01:11:16.680 Yeah.

01:11:16.860 Okay.

01:11:17.040 That stung a little.

01:11:17.920 All right.

01:11:18.540 What else you guys at all, that all you got?

01:11:20.960 Here we go.

01:11:21.380 Totally.

01:11:22.360 Well, and, and we, we, we, we call that crushing, crushing the soul, right?

01:11:26.880 Like sometimes you sense that jujitsu position and you feel the guy's spirit, like go out

01:11:34.420 of his body.

01:11:34.980 Like, you know what I mean?

01:11:37.040 And you, and you just destroyed him mentally.

01:11:39.280 Yeah.

01:11:39.800 And what's crazy is you sense it and you're like, yes, like now you're mine.

01:11:46.820 Yeah.

01:11:47.340 But for the guy that goes, nope, it almost crushes your soul.

01:11:53.140 It does.

01:11:53.400 Cause that was your, right.

01:11:54.340 Because you're like shit.

01:11:56.940 And this guy's not giving up.

01:11:58.900 And then it, it forces me to confront my soul.

01:12:02.740 And am I willing to fight against this guy?

01:12:05.940 That's unwilling to give up.

01:12:07.840 Yeah.

01:12:08.320 It's really interesting.

01:12:09.840 It is.

01:12:10.320 One of the things I started doing is like, after the role, I would like flop on the ground,

01:12:16.080 I'd be like, you're tired and just lay there on the mat for a second, you know, but I made

01:12:21.420 a decision a couple of weeks ago.

01:12:22.520 I'm like, I'm not doing that anymore.

01:12:23.800 Pop up.

01:12:24.540 Yeah.

01:12:24.860 Pop up.

01:12:25.340 Get your fricking ass off the mat.

01:12:27.360 Like you don't lay there defeated in your own pile of sweat and tears.

01:12:32.660 You get up and look, you can be tired.

01:12:35.240 I get it.

01:12:35.820 Of course.

01:12:36.820 But you don't walk around tired.

01:12:38.980 You get up.

01:12:39.900 You don't like bend over and put your feet between your head, between your legs and like suck

01:12:44.060 wind.

01:12:44.460 No, you get up quickly and then you go get a drink or whatever.

01:12:48.720 You adjust your gi and you go right back at it.

01:12:52.140 That's what you do.

01:12:53.040 That's what I do.

01:12:53.740 Anyways, when I like no more laying around for me, not doing that.

01:12:56.580 I like that.

01:12:57.280 I like that.

01:12:57.900 I do that sometimes after roll.

01:12:59.240 I'm like, of course, dead on the mat.

01:13:02.280 No, I'm not doing it.

01:13:03.720 I dig it.

01:13:04.320 I'm going to start doing burpees.

01:13:05.920 Yeah.

01:13:06.320 Just burpees.

01:13:07.280 Bring it on.

01:13:07.800 Keep going.

01:13:08.680 Next roll.

01:13:09.480 I think we've done it for today or I don't know.

01:13:16.040 Do we have one or two more you want to take?

01:13:17.800 Yeah.

01:13:17.960 Let's do one more if that's okay.

01:13:19.540 All right.

01:13:20.400 All right.

01:13:21.720 Thomas Appenheimer, where do you think the line is between confidence and being arrogant?

01:13:28.220 And how do you think we should avoid crossing it?

01:13:31.320 Results.

01:13:31.820 Confidence and arrogance.

01:13:33.200 Results.

01:13:33.560 If you're still producing favorable results for you and the people that you have an obligation

01:13:39.420 for, then that confidence, we'll just say it, that factor is serving you.

01:13:45.400 But if you're undermining yourself or you're undermining others or they no longer believe

01:13:52.840 in you or trust you to the degree that they should and your results aren't there and your

01:13:58.700 performance is suffering, then you may have crossed the line into arrogance, ego, excessive

01:14:05.160 pride.

01:14:06.760 So it's so confident.

01:14:08.100 It becomes more about you, not the results of what you're doing.

01:14:11.360 Yeah.

01:14:11.640 Confidence is a multiplier, right?

01:14:14.300 So confidence.

01:14:15.440 If Kip, I'm partnered with you in some way, and I know you're a confident individual in

01:14:19.400 that thing, then that's a multiplying effort on your part because it instills a sense of

01:14:23.820 confidence in me and pride and what we're doing.

01:14:26.520 And it might even get me to work harder.

01:14:29.240 Confidence is a multiplier.

01:14:31.340 Arrogance, ego, excessive pride is a detractor.

01:14:34.900 It detracts from what could be, and it stymies potential growth and progress.

01:14:39.780 So you need to be able to have some sort of system in place to evaluate your results.

01:14:44.960 And if your results are still good and still performing and still growing, then it just is

01:14:50.320 a level of confidence and you should be excited about that.

01:14:52.340 But if you start to see yourself tapering off or other people tapering off, then you

01:14:58.540 may have crossed the threshold from confidence to arrogance and ego.

01:15:02.620 Got it.

01:15:03.160 And the way you overcome it is you go back to humility.

01:15:07.820 Okay.

01:15:07.940 What can I do to fix and correct and course correct and get back on the path?

01:15:12.880 Love it.

01:15:13.520 I want to get this last question in.

01:15:15.640 Maybe we can make this one click.

01:15:16.960 So Ryan Mills, I've heard you talk about abandoned responsibility as an opportunity

01:15:22.940 for other guys to step up and answer the call.

01:15:26.000 Can you talk more about that?

01:15:28.960 Abandoned responsibility.

01:15:30.460 I don't know that I'm assuming other guys are dropping the ball and we rise up and address.

01:15:36.260 Yeah.

01:15:36.660 Isn't that great?

01:15:37.920 You know, we, we complain about it a lot.

01:15:39.880 Like, oh, society, this society, that there's no real man.

01:15:42.520 There's no this, there's no, no leadership.

01:15:44.180 Everybody's this.

01:15:44.840 Everybody's that.

01:15:45.320 Great.

01:15:45.940 Good.

01:15:46.620 Perfect.

01:15:47.060 Now you can do it.

01:15:47.960 Yeah.

01:15:48.140 You just created a vacuum.

01:15:49.680 So look, all you have to do, the bar, the barrier to entry and the bar for success is

01:15:54.440 set so pathetically low that all you have to do is just that much more and you'll outshine

01:16:00.060 everybody else.

01:16:00.960 And I'm not saying you should do just that much more.

01:16:02.960 You should do that much more, but just know that any sort of effort and progress on your

01:16:08.060 part represents a very clear opportunity for you to step up and lead and then to reap the

01:16:12.740 benefits that come from it, whether it's increased income or social clout and influence, there's

01:16:18.060 benefits.

01:16:19.020 You know, we've all heard the term to the victor goes the spoils.

01:16:21.980 There's benefits to leading.

01:16:23.940 There's benefits to, to being the best, to, to picking up that mantle.

01:16:28.120 And so if you see people who are dropping the ball, and by the way, we don't do this out

01:16:34.100 of spite.

01:16:34.740 That's one thing you do have to be careful of because then people can see that.

01:16:38.520 Right.

01:16:38.860 And if, and you're actually, you're not helping you're, you're hurting yourself.

01:16:42.340 So we don't do it to, to get revenge or to be spiteful or like, I'll show him, or I'm

01:16:47.120 going to upstage him.

01:16:48.180 No, you do it.

01:16:48.900 You're like, Oh, here's an opportunity.

01:16:50.340 There's a need.

01:16:51.000 Yeah.

01:16:51.700 Here's a great place where I can step in and, and I can lead or I can direct, or I can add

01:16:57.500 value.

01:16:58.160 I can give resources, man.

01:17:00.980 The more you do that with, with the right intent, with the right motive, which is to serve

01:17:04.680 other people.

01:17:06.720 It's there.

01:17:07.380 I mean, they're at, those opportunities are everywhere.

01:17:10.580 So look for them, exploit them, not in a negative way, but exploit those opportunities.

01:17:15.700 And the world is yours.

01:17:17.760 Quite literally the world is yours.

01:17:19.920 And what a great way to be fulfilled when, when we're, when we're, we're, when we're in

01:17:25.260 the service of other men and we can have jobs and our focus is in service.

01:17:31.680 Right.

01:17:32.340 That's fulfilling.

01:17:33.480 Yeah.

01:17:34.220 Right.

01:17:34.500 That's impactful.

01:17:35.360 That's nice.

01:17:35.980 That's a good place to be.

01:17:38.040 Yeah.

01:17:38.520 Yeah.

01:17:38.700 It doesn't matter what position you're in.

01:17:40.480 You can look for those opportunities and you can see those things.

01:17:43.280 Um, the term I've used in the past, and this comes from our church Kip is magnify your calling.

01:17:49.240 Yeah.

01:17:49.900 Just, just magnify it guys.

01:17:51.600 Like if in this podcast, how can we magnify this podcast?

01:17:55.380 If you're having dinner with your wife, how could you make it better?

01:17:58.740 How could you make the dinner with your wife or your family better?

01:18:01.880 If you're at home and you're doing chores, do you make the bed or do you fold the corners,

01:18:05.960 tuck it just perfectly fluff the pillows and put a little mint there at the end?

01:18:10.940 You know what I'm saying?

01:18:11.500 Like magnify it every encounter, every situation.

01:18:14.880 If you're working on a project, you know, you might, you might be doing some paint and

01:18:18.760 you're like, I won't get that corner because nobody will see it.

01:18:20.880 No, magnify it, do it, paint the corner, even though it might actually be covered up because

01:18:26.160 that's going to spill over into the other ways of your life and you're just going to

01:18:30.220 be better for it.

01:18:31.020 So just magnify every opportunity, every situation, every encounter and conversation.

01:18:36.960 Just how can I make this better?

01:18:39.200 How can I make this better?

01:18:40.260 And constantly be working towards that.

01:18:41.840 I love it.

01:18:42.960 And one thing that you guys can do to make this better, this movement is like what we

01:18:48.700 mentioned earlier, like share, share this message.

01:18:51.680 Let's, let's create the momentum that we're talking about or really progress the momentum

01:18:56.280 that already exists around the order of man movement.

01:18:58.480 Uh, and you can do so by sharing, subscribing to this podcast, checking videos on YouTube.

01:19:05.280 There's a lot of snippets that, that are on the YouTube channel as well.

01:19:09.000 So those are really great ways to be able to share aspects of messages.

01:19:13.480 Um, and then of course, join us on Facebook and follow Mr.

01:19:16.700 Mickler on Instagram and Twitter at Ryan Mickler.

01:19:19.480 And then of course, uh, if you are interested in banding with us in the iron council, you can

01:19:25.300 learn more about that at order of man.com slash iron council.

01:19:28.920 And we have a new quarter starting up.

01:19:31.280 We've functioned in the iron council in quarters.

01:19:34.400 Um, so if you want to align with us and you're not in the IC, join the IC or sign up for battle

01:19:40.480 ready.

01:19:41.040 And there's no better way to start off, uh, the next quarter Q2 of 2021 than, uh, getting

01:19:47.760 your battle plan figured out.

01:19:48.900 So go to order of man.com slash battle ready to, to, uh, get rolling there.

01:19:53.720 Yep.

01:19:53.940 Perfect.

01:19:54.240 Make sure you band with us in one way or the other, uh, on YouTube, we're just under

01:19:58.300 200,000 subscribers.

01:19:59.820 So I think we're at 199,460 or something.

01:20:04.260 So just go over, subscribe, help us put a, put us over that 200,000 mark.

01:20:07.740 That's a cool benchmark.

01:20:09.180 Um, and, and obviously you'll watch the videos and everything that come with it.

01:20:12.000 And Kip, I was going to say one way that you can improve your podcasting is there's a

01:20:15.440 little white hair on your microphone that I've literally had to been had to stare at for

01:20:20.040 the past.

01:20:21.140 There we go.

01:20:21.820 I should have told you earlier.

01:20:23.300 Cause that little one white hair, your little gray beard is bothering me.

01:20:27.900 And if you wanted to be bothered as well, you could see that white hair on YouTube.

01:20:32.380 That's right.

01:20:32.860 Yeah.

01:20:33.240 Awesome.

01:20:33.600 Thank you for pointing that out.

01:20:34.880 I'm sure everyone appreciates it.

01:20:36.360 No problem.

01:20:37.280 Hey, look, everybody was already thinking it.

01:20:39.160 I'm the one who said it.

01:20:40.200 So, all right, you guys, I appreciate you.

01:20:42.700 Kip, I appreciate you on this as well.

01:20:44.740 Uh, great questions.

01:20:45.660 They keep them coming and, uh, we'll connect with you on Friday for our Friday field notes.

01:20:50.580 But until then, go out there, guys, take action and become the man you are meant to be.

01:20:54.740 Thank you for listening to the order of man podcast.

01:20:57.560 You're ready to take charge of your life and be more of the man you were meant to be.

01:21:01.680 We invite you to join the order at order of man.com.

01:21:04.800 We'll be right back.

Order of Man - March 17, 2021

Dangerous Freedom, Unrighteous Dominion, and the Power to Create ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

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