Order of Man - ELI CRANE ｜ Power vs. Principle

00:00:00.000 It seems like it's political month around here, but with the midterms coming up, I think it's

00:00:04.580 important that we discuss some of these crucial political topics that impact us, our families,

00:00:10.600 and our communities so much. Today, I'm joined by former Navy SEAL and congressional candidate,

00:00:15.520 Eli Crane, to talk about why it's crucial men have at least some interest in politics,

00:00:21.180 how courage in you breeds courage in others, the collapse of some of our most predominant

00:00:25.860 social institutions, the concept of ideological subversion, and the need for principle over

00:00:31.720 power in our elected officials. You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace

00:00:36.960 your fears and boldly chart your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time,

00:00:42.840 every time. You are not easily deterred, defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. This is your life.

00:00:49.680 This is who you are. This is who you will become at the end of the day. And after all is said and done,

00:00:55.860 you can call yourself a man.

00:00:58.200 Gentlemen, what is going on today? My name is Ryan Michler. I'm the host. I'm also the founder

00:01:02.160 of the Order of Man podcast and movement. Welcome here today. Welcome back. Glad you're joining us.

00:01:08.320 Glad you're with us. Glad you're banded in this movement to reclaim and restore masculinity in the

00:01:12.960 society that continues to move away from it, which is the root of a lot of our problems. So what we do

00:01:18.880 here is we interview incredible men, guys who are successful on all sorts of different fronts,

00:01:22.760 extract some of their knowledge and wisdom and lessons and everything else, and then deliver

00:01:27.440 that to you and me. Hopefully we can take some of this information and apply it in our own lives.

00:01:32.440 That's my goal, my hope, and my desire. So we're going to get into it in a minute with Eli here.

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00:02:14.100 All right, guys, let's get to it with Eli. He's a former Navy SEAL. He served with SEAL Team 3 and has

00:02:20.660 five wartime deployments serving for over 13 years. He's also the founder of Bottle Breacher,

00:02:30.500 which he has since sold, which is a company founded on giving back to veterans nationwide.

00:02:35.240 So he clearly, clearly understands firsthand the challenges that so many small businesses have

00:02:40.720 and is now using that knowledge to serve the country again as a congressional candidate in

00:02:45.900 Arizona. Eli is a faith-oriented famine man, and he's unafraid to take on cancel culture and 0.93

00:02:51.720 the radical ideology that has permeated much of society. Enjoy this one, gents. 0.99

00:02:57.820 Eli, what's up, man? Thanks for joining me on the podcast today.

00:03:00.740 Hey, thanks for having me, brother. I appreciate it.

00:03:02.660 Yeah, you bet. You got a good name. So that's a mark in your favor. That's actually my son's name

00:03:07.500 is Elijah. So there you go, man. My mom gave me and my brothers all biblical names, Zachary,

00:03:14.640 Elijah, and Gabriel, man. Oh, is that right? Awesome. Awesome. Well, hey, I know you're

00:03:20.260 running for Congress. It's always fascinating to talk with somebody who actually wants to step

00:03:26.480 into that arena. Quite honestly, I can see the appeal a bit, but also I see some of the negativity

00:03:34.000 or the downsides of it. And I'm always very curious what compels somebody to go that route.

00:03:38.740 Yeah, well, I can't say that I saw the appeal. I would say I saw the need. This isn't something

00:03:47.140 that I ever really wanted to do or I enjoy doing that much, but I do believe we're at a pretty

00:03:54.060 critical time in this country's history right now. And I wanted to, instead of continue to

00:04:02.460 complain about it, try and do something about it. And so that's led me here.

00:04:06.440 How much do you think one person in Congress can make a difference? I mean, and I'm trying to ask

00:04:12.760 that respectfully. Like, I'm not asking that tongue in cheek. I'm genuinely asking what one person can do

00:04:18.740 in this position when it seems to me that the powers that be are going to continue to control

00:04:22.900 regardless of who's elected here or there. Right. And that's a very fair question. When you

00:04:28.380 look at the size of Congress, it's 435 people, right? And then you look at how many are in the

00:04:34.320 Senate, that's another hundred. And then obviously you have the executive branch as well. And so,

00:04:39.220 you know, there is some wisdom to asking that question. How much can you actually do when there's,

00:04:45.000 you know, over 500 people that have to all kind of be on the same page to

00:04:52.840 get anything done? But, um, I would also, I would also say just to give you an idea right now,

00:04:58.980 Ryan, um, Nancy Pelosi right now has a plus five majority on Capitol Hill. She, she only has power 1.00

00:05:05.660 by five people. So let's say, you know, you're a part of flipping that back, um, away from her control,

00:05:15.420 you know, taking one of those five seats away, um, from the other side, you know, you can stop

00:05:22.240 a lot of the agenda that in my opinion right now is destroying this country. And so, um, and if it

00:05:28.780 wasn't important and if people, the power players of this world, not only our country, but the globe

00:05:34.980 didn't understand the importance of it, you wouldn't see millions of dollars pour into each and every one

00:05:39.720 of these races. And so to your point, um, you know, it's, it is tough to get something done just

00:05:46.900 as one Congressman, but, you know, many of us have seen in business and in our families and on the

00:05:53.080 battlefield that, um, fear is contagious, but so is courage, you know, and sometimes, you know,

00:06:00.340 sometimes, uh, things are going a certain way because nobody's willing to step up and, you know,

00:06:06.680 be a voice of courage and hold others accountable. Um, and, uh, you know, that business as usual

00:06:14.900 just continues. And so, um, I don't know how much I'll be able to, uh, affect change. I'm not the

00:06:21.420 type of guy that will come in and act like a lot of candidates who will tell you, Oh, we're going to,

00:06:26.680 I'm going to, I'm going to shore up the border and I'm going to get this economy back in shape.

00:06:30.820 And they make a bunch of promises that there's no way they could ever keep.

00:06:35.340 But what I will do is, uh, I will hold to my principles and I will hold, um, to the America

00:06:43.620 first agenda and use my voice and my platform and my vote, um, in that manner. And so that's

00:06:51.820 all I can do. But, you know, as a dad, Ryan, as somebody that has little girls, I've got a 15 year

00:06:57.900 old now and an 11 year old, I want to make sure I want to do everything I can to make sure that they

00:07:01.920 grow up with the same level of freedom and opportunity that you and I did. And if I can't

00:07:06.660 look them in the face in 10 or 15 years and say, Hey, your dad tried to me, that's, that's unsat.

00:07:13.620 That is just unsat. And it's not, it's not a life that I'm willing. It's not a life that I'm willing

00:07:18.600 to live. And, you know, it's interesting because your podcast is called the order of men, right?

00:07:23.200 The order of man, right?

00:07:24.620 That's right. Yeah.

00:07:25.840 Okay. Well, I think that's what real men do. I think real men are willing to sacrifice

00:07:29.620 for their families and do stuff often that they don't even want to do because for the greater good.

00:07:35.840 And so for me, this is a perfect example of doing a bunch of stuff that I don't want to do

00:07:41.640 that I don't like doing. Um, but I know that there there's a possibility of, uh, affecting some

00:07:49.600 of the change that I want to see for the future of my, my kids and for future generations.

00:07:54.420 Yeah. I mean, I definitely agree with that. One, one of the biggest concerns I've had is,

00:07:59.660 is that it seems to me, and I don't, I I'm very interested to see what you think that when,

00:08:06.440 when the liberal side of the aisle is in power, they do a phenomenal job playing offense. Like

00:08:11.620 forget about, forget about the policy, but they do a great job playing offense. And when they're not

00:08:16.940 in power, they do a great job playing defense and even offense when they're not in power.

00:08:21.480 The, the part that I take issue with is that when conservatives are not in power,

00:08:26.480 they do really, really well with the offense. And then when they get into power,

00:08:30.940 all they do is play defense. It's like, what, what in the world is going on here? Like when

00:08:35.340 conservatives have power, they don't wield that power correctly or effectively. I'm curious if

00:08:40.640 you believe that, or you think that, or you see it differently.

00:08:42.680 No, I absolutely believe that. And I, and I agree with it. And I think that I could be wrong,

00:08:49.300 but I think, um, the way I'm seeing things play out, I think that you're going to see more of the

00:08:53.480 same. And what do I mean by that? Um, well, right now I believe that there's kind of a,

00:08:58.820 a schism or a fraction in the, uh, Republican party. I think you have, uh, America first candidates

00:09:06.380 like myself. Um, and then you have, you know, your more moderate establishment, um, members or,

00:09:12.680 you know, candidates. And so, um, there is kind of a divergence of ideology there. And when you have

00:09:20.360 that, um, you know, you get people that have different agendas that are voting on different

00:09:25.740 things. And one thing to your point is, um, the left on the other hand, whether, whether they come in,

00:09:33.360 whether they campaign or whether they personally have different beliefs or principles, they all

00:09:38.640 vote in lockstep. So they're much better, um, in my opinion, at moving the ball forward on their

00:09:45.180 side. And I believe it's been very destructive to this country, but to your point, they are better

00:09:49.880 at doing that than we are. Why, why do you think that's the case? Why, why? I mean, yes, the lockstep

00:09:55.620 I think is, is, is there for sure, but why do you think they're the, on that left side of the aisle?

00:10:02.440 It's just, it's just more offense than, than the right side of the aisle. I don't, I don't

00:10:06.760 understand it. I don't get it. Maybe it's this whole concept of, you know, playing fair or playing

00:10:12.800 by the rules or, or trying to be, you know, the higher, take the higher ground that makes people

00:10:17.980 maybe even a little too soft. Yeah. Well, you know, I could be wrong here, but if I, if I had to

00:10:25.300 take a shot at it, I would say that the ultimate goal on that side of the aisle, it's not, it's not

00:10:30.880 principle. It's not policy, it's power. And when your goal is power and your leaders, that's what

00:10:38.480 the goal of the leaders, you know, have it's, it's easier to put aside, you know, petty squabbles or

00:10:45.680 differences of opinions and say, Hey, look, this is the best chance that we have to stay in power.

00:10:50.060 So this is what we're going to do now, if you're on the, you know, if, if you're, if you belong to

00:10:55.100 a party that tries to vote principle and, and it's not about staying in power or it is less often

00:11:02.780 because it, that happens on both sides of the aisle. But I think that's why you see on the left,

00:11:07.600 um, there, there, they do a better job at, uh, you know, voting in lockstep because it's,

00:11:14.760 it's about power. And I mean, you can look at some of the positions that the leadership on the

00:11:19.920 left has taken in the past and where they're at policy wise. Um, you know, now, um, you know,

00:11:27.900 a lot of this stuff that's fueling the democratic party right now is it's radical ideologies, right?

00:11:34.060 You've got socialism in there, you've got communism in there, Marxism. And I know for me, maybe even many

00:11:40.260 of your viewers are like, Eli, what are you talking about? That sounds extravagant. It sounds

00:11:44.360 like you're trying to be, you know, uh, like, like, like you're trying to be, uh, like you're

00:11:51.320 exaggerating and I'm, and I'm not at all. And matter of fact, you can look at the last couple

00:11:55.360 of presidential elections. Um, Bernie Sanders is an avowed socialist. I mean, that's not even

00:12:01.340 arguable. Okay. And he, you can argue that he's come in, you know, within the top four, the last

00:12:08.280 two presidential cycles. Okay. Most of these, like, if you, if you go back 20 years and look at

00:12:15.900 Joe Biden's position on socialism, Nancy Pelosi's position on socialism, Chuck Schumer's position on

00:12:22.120 socialism, they would have all disavowed it, um, you know, decades ago, but, and they would have

00:12:28.400 disavowed a lot of the stuff that they're now promoting, um, decades ago, but to stay in power

00:12:34.660 because they feel that's where the winds of, you know, power are shifting. They'll take a different,

00:12:39.840 um, contradictory position now because it's not about issue or principle. It's about staying

00:12:46.220 in power. And, and that's why I would argue they do a better job because, um, they're motivated by

00:12:53.240 something completely different than we are. So then is any, uh, I don't even know. Let me,

00:13:00.840 let me take that in a different direction. If you say that that's, they're doing a better job

00:13:04.220 at, at, at pushing their agenda forward because their motive is different, which is power. Like

00:13:10.320 you're saying over principle, like how do you take some of the same ability to fight and, and win

00:13:17.840 frankly, and push forward the correct motive of principle and truly caring about the American people

00:13:26.440 and freedom and Liberty and these sorts of things. Like where, what, where's the line if, if you will.

00:13:31.200 Well, I think for, for us, what, what we do is, um, we lead by example, right? I'm a guy that never

00:13:37.800 wanted to be in politics. I was in special forces. And then I, then I went into the business world,

00:13:42.540 but I recognized what was going on and all I can do is lead by principle and try and come on,

00:13:49.100 you know, whatever show it is and just be off, off, you know, um, transparent and authentic.

00:13:56.300 What God, I can't authentic. Yeah. Authentic. My, my, my brain didn't, wasn't connecting there,

00:14:03.600 but yeah, I mean, that's all that, that, that's really all I can do. And then, you know, take the

00:14:08.000 skills and from entrepreneurship and special forces where you learn that you're nothing by yourself

00:14:14.120 and you got to build a team around you and then try and start building that team, um, on the political

00:14:19.120 side of the aisle and start building that team and that culture within my, you know, within my family

00:14:24.120 first. And then, you know, my, my community outside of that and help people wake up to the

00:14:29.360 fact that if we don't, um, if we don't pull our heads out as Americans, we're going to lose this

00:14:35.560 country. And, uh, you know, and I know not everybody believes that I know everybody, there's a lot of

00:14:41.020 people out there that think this is the United States of America and it's just going to go on

00:14:44.200 forever. But I personally believe that, um, just like most empires have collapsed around the 250 year,

00:14:51.040 300 year mark, even that that's very possible in the United States of America, because even this 0.99

00:14:57.120 great system can only endure so much corruption, debt, greed, stupidity, foolishness, and wickedness. 0.97

00:15:05.920 And so, um, it, it, for me, it comes down to, um, you know, taking a big problem and trying to make 0.98

00:15:13.440 it small and asking, okay, Ryan, what can I do? What can I do? And I think, I think when you get

00:15:18.520 enough people, you know, Hey, Hey, Ryan, you might have way better skills at something that I do.

00:15:24.740 Um, and I'm not going to try and be like you, I'm going to try and be the best me that I'm going to

00:15:29.360 try and take the skills, talents, and abilities that God gave me and try and, you know, put my

00:15:33.980 shoulder to the wheel with those and see if I can make an impact with what I've been given. I'm not

00:15:39.120 going to try and be like Ryan, because I know you've been given skills that I haven't been, but every

00:15:44.700 single one of us has to do that. And like courage breeds courage, activism, I think breeds activism.

00:15:50.980 And so, um, either that's what I'm trying to do in my small little, my, my small little way is just, um,

00:15:57.760 encourage others and set, set the example.

00:16:01.120 What is a guy who even like myself, you know, I'm, I'm not interested in, in politics myself.

00:16:08.040 And I know there's plenty of guys who are listening in that feel the same way. Uh, what,

00:16:13.800 what do you suggest with guys like those? I mean, obviously, yeah, vote, you know, try,

00:16:17.820 try to try to share a message, but are the other things that these men can, can, and should be

00:16:22.300 doing to help reclaim this country and keep it on the right track or, or get it back on the right

00:16:27.000 track and then keep it there. Yeah. Well, first I'd start by saying, Hey, you may not be interested

00:16:31.760 in politics or the nature of it, but you're probably interested in, you know, um, how much

00:16:38.340 you pay at the gas pump, how much you definitely groceries, how much you're paying for real estate,

00:16:43.060 um, whether or not your kids go to school and are judged on the content of their character and not

00:16:48.740 the color of their skin or their gender, whether they're being taught some radical ideology in school,

00:16:54.900 et cetera. So, you know, you guys might not be, uh, you know, it might not be politics might not do

00:17:01.640 it for you, but what I'm, what I'm talking about is one of the reasons we're in this spot is because

00:17:06.760 guys who have, who are smart, capable and talented have, have, haven't been interested and they've

00:17:14.320 been checked out. And here's the deal. When you have a country that's of, by, and for the people,

00:17:18.960 if those people are checked out, that creates a power vacuum and that power vacuum is filled with

00:17:24.280 something. And you're seeing what it's filled with right now and it's not healthy. And that's what

00:17:29.240 creates a lot of the chaos that you see. And so, you know, maybe I'll pitch it to you that way and

00:17:34.280 say, Hey, you might not like the, you know, watching, you know, PBS or watching people, you

00:17:40.560 know, uh, watching, you know, the new, the nightly news. I half the time, I don't even like it. All I'm

00:17:46.620 saying is, is that if you have a country that's up by and for the people and those people who I would

00:17:53.580 consider the sheepdogs and the guys that know better and, and the guys that, you know, love

00:17:59.460 their families, love community, love the country are checked out. What fills that vacuum? And you're

00:18:06.260 seeing it right now. Yeah. And so I, uh, yes, a hundred percent agree, but again, you're not going

00:18:12.280 to get everybody in, in politics, but there are people who like, like I've heard people say, I'm not

00:18:17.980 interested in politics, but politics is certainly interested in you, right? Absolutely. And it

00:18:23.720 affects, it affects, it affects your life. And it's, it's one of many verticals that affects your

00:18:28.360 life, but I do think it's an important one and it's often a pretty nasty one. And I think that's

00:18:33.960 another reason that, you know, people, you know, uh, I think as human beings, we avoid conflict. We

00:18:39.260 don't like conflict in many ways. I'm the same way, but I, I understand what comes on the backside or

00:18:45.580 what the by-product of, um, poor politics and poor policy is and, and it affects our lives.

00:18:51.940 And so if that's, if that's where the, if that's where the fight is, you know, that's where I'm

00:18:57.460 headed. Yeah. One, one thing I've, I've had issue with is I, I listened to the political pundits and

00:19:03.720 the talking heads from time to time. And I realized I need to turn some of that off because I, I tend to

00:19:08.920 become very cynical of, of what's going on. And I think, I think there is a lot to be cynical about

00:19:14.640 but also I think it begins to taint or erode or undermine what, what positive or what good could

00:19:24.340 actually be done from being involved. And it's like all or nothing, you know, because I get so

00:19:29.860 cynical, I'm like, Oh man, I got to turn the news off. And you hear that all the time. It's like,

00:19:33.380 just turn the TV off, just turn the podcast off and just focus on your life. And I understand the

00:19:39.440 sentiment, but it's not a good way to engage, especially because we are experiencing the

00:19:44.820 real world ramifications of policy. That's not conducive to our, to our best interests.

00:19:50.400 No, I hear you. I've even gone through phases myself where, you know, I'll, I'll turn it off

00:19:55.580 and check out for a while. And I know I have a lot of friends that have done the same thing. And I

00:19:59.940 totally understand why it doesn't make, it doesn't make you feel good. Um, it does make,

00:20:05.500 it does make you cynical and, uh, you know, it is tough to stay engaged, um, you know, in a fight.

00:20:12.300 And I, I remember, you know, some of my deployments overseas where, you know, I mean, we, we'd be

00:20:17.260 there for six months and I remember, uh, just how frustrated you would get sometimes, um, you know,

00:20:23.320 with what was going on, um, the op tempo, um, whether or not we felt like we were successful or not,

00:20:30.200 some of the politics that, you know, even came into warfare and, um, one guy's just getting

00:20:37.340 burned out at a certain, at a certain point in the deployment, you could tell, you know,

00:20:42.700 you could tell when they did. Um, and so I've seen it not only in, um, culture, but I've seen it in,

00:20:49.540 in warfare as well. And, and I think it is important to have like a, that that's why I think

00:20:54.860 it's important to stay balanced in your life to where it's not, you know, 24, seven politics,

00:21:00.560 Fox news, CNN, whatever your, you know, whatever your, you know, flavor is, but, uh, making sure

00:21:06.160 that you're living a balanced life, you know, trying to, uh, you know, take time to, you know,

00:21:11.180 get a workout in for me, you know, my faith is really important to me. Um, trying to make sure

00:21:16.780 that I get that, you know, get that in as well. And then, you know, get family time in as well. And,

00:21:21.700 you know, some time with my friends and, you know, just live a balanced life, but don't neglect

00:21:25.960 it. I mean, if you, if you neglect it, there, there will come, there will come a day, you know,

00:21:32.560 maybe 10 years from now, 20 years from now, where don't be surprised when we're dealing with some of

00:21:38.020 the same issues that, um, many of the other, you know, empires around the globe have, you know,

00:21:44.460 eroded to, or don't be surprised when we're the next Venezuelan, you're living under a socialist

00:21:49.300 dictator, you know, where you no longer get to say what you want to say. You no longer get,

00:21:54.100 you can no longer afford, you know, that lifestyle that you have because you were checked out.

00:21:59.800 And that's why, you know, it's interesting, you know, that's why, um, when this country was being

00:22:04.280 founded, uh, a reporter actually asked, I think it was Benjamin Franklin. Hey, while they were, you

00:22:09.680 know, um, you know, involved in the formation of our, uh, you know, our constitution and some of our

00:22:16.320 founding documents, a reporter asked him, Hey, what kind of a government do you have for us? And

00:22:20.220 he said, a Republic, if you can keep it. Right. Those are the key words. If you can keep it. Why

00:22:27.540 do you think he said that? Right. Why do you think it's so fragile? It's so delicate, right? I mean,

00:22:32.200 it's crumble at the slightest. Yeah. He knew, he knew history. He knew how unique this system was.

00:22:38.280 And he also understood mankind and, and, and our, uh, and how complacent and passive we get a lot of the

00:22:45.080 time, you know? And so it's, I think it's important to understand that, you know, um, you know, it's

00:22:51.160 like, yeah, we, we have been blessed here. We have been very fortunate to live here, but the question

00:22:57.160 is, are we going to keep it or are we going to let it fade into oblivion? You know? So that's, that's,

00:23:03.260 that's why I'm doing this, man. And, um, you know, it is, it is what it is, but I don't, I don't,

00:23:10.800 I don't regret it, even though I don't like it that much. I don't regret it because I think it's

00:23:15.280 an important mission. All right, man, let me step away from the conversation very briefly.

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00:23:58.500 again, pick up a copy of the masculinity manifesto for now. I'll get back to it with Eli.

00:24:03.140 Eli. What's your take on where you're seeing it now, maybe even from a different perspective,

00:24:10.480 especially if you, if you do get elected is what's your perspective on how the military has

00:24:17.420 changed relative to, cause you're, you're, you're a former Navy SEAL. You spent a lot of times in,

00:24:22.780 in, in the military. And so being in the military versus seeing it now, what's your perspective about

00:24:29.200 how that's changed for better or worse? Yeah. You know, I think, um, I'm disappointed to see,

00:24:37.120 um, you know, where the military is at right now. Um, I, I think that like many of our institutions,

00:24:44.540 um, it's becoming, uh, a social experiment, if you will. Um, and I think many of the leaders that,

00:24:53.420 that we have in the military, um, have been selected and promoted, um, not because they're

00:25:03.360 the best military or, you know, minds that we have are the most, um, strategic, you know,

00:25:11.040 warfare minds that we have, but because they're, they're willing to play ball and do what they're

00:25:15.020 told. And, um, you know, I think it's, uh, when you, when you see a lot of the, you know, stuff,

00:25:21.300 you hear general Milley talking to Congress, you know, about, um, you know, some of the, uh,

00:25:28.400 you know, some of the, um, culture problems that the military has. And he talks about, Hey,

00:25:35.200 he wants to get in touch with his, you know, or he wants to learn more about his, his, his, uh,

00:25:40.800 white rage or, you know, what, whatever, whatever it is, it's just, you're thinking, I'm thinking to

00:25:45.180 myself, what the hell's going on? You know, what does this have to do with you leading, um, the baddest

00:25:50.800 fighting force, um, ever assembled. Um, and when I see a lot of this stuff going on, um, it really

00:25:57.760 concerns me because I know that that's not what our military is for. I know it doesn't help, um,

00:26:04.500 the effectiveness of our military. And, um, I also understand how dangerous this world is. I

00:26:10.140 understand. I've seen it firsthand, um, how many adversaries that we have out there that would just

00:26:15.620 love to knock the United States, um, you know, off of our, off of our position in the world and

00:26:23.140 would love to even just destroy the United States. And so, um, I think it's, I think it's very dangerous

00:26:29.220 when you take something that's not supposed to be a social experiment, um, and start to influence it

00:26:34.520 with that type of, uh, uh, destructive ideology. Yeah. I mean, I can, I can definitely see how,

00:26:41.720 how it's, how it's deviated. Do you think that with, with the route of our, our military leaders,

00:26:46.460 uh, the question I keep asking myself, not just with the military, but even our presidency is this

00:26:51.560 complete and utter ignorance, or is this an intentional undermining? Like what is, what is

00:26:58.520 the play here? Like in the militaries, what, what is the ultimate play? Is it to undermine and erode

00:27:03.620 this nation and our fighting force? Like how, how does that serve anybody? I think about that even

00:27:08.980 with student loan payments, uh, or student loan forgiveness. It's like, what's the play? Is it

00:27:14.520 just power or does somebody actually believe that this is going to be better for everybody?

00:27:21.400 I think it's a combination of the two. Uh, I think there is a lot of ignorance involved,

00:27:25.860 but I also do think that many of the, uh, people that have worked their way into positions of authority

00:27:31.980 and power, um, don't want to see, um, you know, um, the same United States. I think they want,

00:27:42.020 I think they want to change it. I don't think that they want to see, um, you know, a dominant United

00:27:48.380 States. Um, I don't think they want to see, uh, the people of this country have a constitution or a bill

00:27:56.660 of rights that protects our unalienable or God-given rights. And one of the reasons I believe that is

00:28:03.180 because, um, uh, you know, many of them have complained about it publicly. Um, and I don't

00:28:10.520 think, and when I, I was talking about how we have a guy that who's an avowed socialist coming in,

00:28:17.440 in the top four, the last two elections, socialism is not compatible with, um, our constitution and our

00:28:25.780 bill of rights. It just isn't, they don't, you, you can't put the two together. One has got to give.

00:28:30.900 And so I, I personally believe that there has been an attempt, an attempt to destroy this country

00:28:37.700 from within. And you're saying, you might be saying, Eli, what are you talking about? That

00:28:41.680 sounds crazy. Well, stay with me for a second, you know, go, you know, for your listening out,

00:28:47.780 listeners out there, go Google, um, Yuri Bezmanov. Have you seen Yuri Bezmanov's videos, Ryan?

00:28:54.040 No, I haven't. Yuri Bezmanov was a KGB defector. Um, and he was given, he was given interviews.

00:29:02.620 He was a high ranking officer in the KGB and he was given interviews, you know, I think back as early

00:29:07.560 as the late, late eighties, early nineties, I believe. And he talked about, um, how the KGB didn't

00:29:14.960 spend a lot of their money, um, on, you know, the sexy James Bond type espionage. They spent most,

00:29:22.540 he said maybe 15% of our budget went into that type of espionage, uh, field craft, that type of

00:29:29.080 stuff. He said the majority of our budget in the KGB, um, uh, went towards, um, something called

00:29:35.360 ideological subversion and trying to destroy the West. And if you go look at, if you go watch,

00:29:40.940 um, Yuri Bezmanov's videos, this KGB defector, he goes through what ideological subversion is

00:29:46.760 and the steps. He actually goes through the steps and how long each one is supposed to take,

00:29:52.400 um, in embedding communists into, um, you know, every major institution that we have in the media,

00:30:01.500 academia, um, in Hollywood, et cetera. And, um, how they, how they want to, um, alter

00:30:09.740 the ideologies that we have here. Um, and to destroy the West, that's, that's the goal to

00:30:17.260 destroy the United States. And don't take my word for it guys. Go, go listen to doctor or go listen

00:30:22.460 to Yuri Bezmanov talk about, um, ideological subversion, the steps, but I do believe it's

00:30:28.000 intentional. I don't believe anybody's, you know, well, I don't believe most people are really as

00:30:34.400 stupid as, um, some of the things that you see going on here. Like, for instance, I mean, Ryan, 1.00

00:30:40.100 let's, let's be honest, man. We're starting to have arguments about whether or not men can have

00:30:44.220 babies. I mean, that's how stupid things are getting in our culture. And look, Hey man, maybe, 1.00

00:30:49.420 maybe that's insulting to some people. Maybe, you know, maybe some people believe that, you know,

00:30:54.060 men can have babies. I'm honestly not trying to, you know, insult you, um, per se, but come on.

00:31:01.620 I mean, that's how, that's how, that's how far our culture has gone where we're, we're taking the,

00:31:09.180 the most, um, black and white issues in my opinion, and we are, uh, inserting complete confusion.

00:31:17.880 And I I've heard the saying before, when it comes to the radical left, the issue is never the issue.

00:31:24.620 The issue is always revolution. And what does that really mean? What they want to do is they want to

00:31:29.660 try and destroy the institution. They want to try and destroy the framework that makes the West,

00:31:35.520 the West and makes our culture, what our culture is. And if they can do that,

00:31:40.560 then they can rebuild it into what they always, always want to think about it. Like, you know,

00:31:45.600 there's a lot of guys that, you know, probably watch your show that are in construction.

00:31:49.800 Sometimes if you want to build, you know, if you want to, if you want to build a house,

00:31:53.640 but a house is already there, sometimes you'll do a renovation, but sometimes you'll just knock the

00:31:57.660 whole thing down because it's just quicker and easier to do it. And I think that's what they're

00:32:01.780 actually trying to do. I think they're trying to destroy it so they can bring in a more totalitarian,

00:32:07.500 overreaching, over, you know, controlling government. Like most of many of them have

00:32:12.920 always wanted. And that's what I feel like is on the line. And that's why as a dad and somebody who

00:32:19.880 feels blessed to have grown up here and doesn't want to see other, you know, I don't even want to see

00:32:25.540 the people that are my opposition or who completely disagree with me. I don't want to have to see them

00:32:31.640 live through communism or socialism, you know, or, or any of it. And I don't think a lot of them even

00:32:37.240 know what, what that will bring because they don't study history and it's not really taught in our

00:32:42.760 schools anymore. And they, you know, the left does a really good job of inserting some, you know,

00:32:49.600 virtuous sounding words into their agenda, like equity and equality. And it sounds great when you say it,

00:32:55.540 it sounds great. It looks great on paper, but when you actually get into what they're actually

00:33:00.480 trying to do there, yeah, there might be equality. We're all, we're all going to be equally poor

00:33:06.660 and equally oppressed if, if, you know, we get their, their way of life, but, um, hold on. Sorry,

00:33:13.420 man. Let me, let me, uh, try and get my light back. There it goes. The flapper. Yeah. The sensor

00:33:20.320 light didn't see me moving. So it turned off. Sorry. No problem. But yeah. When you say I'm

00:33:26.820 always not skeptical, but just aware of when people say this is what they want, this is what they

00:33:32.100 want. Like who, who is they, I mean, you're, you're talking about external Nate, you know,

00:33:38.040 foreign nations and, and, and I'm sure that there's probably some thought that that comes from internal

00:33:44.900 as well, but who, who is they, that we're talking about here? Well, that's why I mentioned the fact

00:33:51.360 that Yuri Bezmenov is a KGB officer. Right. So the K, the KGB worked for the Soviets, right? It's kind

00:34:00.500 of like our, um, you know, it's kind of like our, uh, CIA, if you will. Okay. And, and, and when I also

00:34:08.620 say they, the Chinese are doing it, the Chinese are doing it too. There, there are, um, foreign 0.98

00:34:14.660 countries that, um, hate the West, they hate the United States and they're trying to destroy

00:34:18.940 the United States. And, and it's, it gets kind of confusing because at times we even have, you know,

00:34:23.960 trade deals with some of these folks. So we do work with them at times, but like, if you listen to,

00:34:29.320 um, you know, some of their leaders speak, um, you know, especially lately, um, the Chinese,

00:34:36.840 the Chinese absolutely want to destroy the West. Um, they want to destroy the United States. And, 1.00

00:34:43.260 you know, um, I think a lot of people are sleeping on it just because we were so prosperous. We're so

00:34:49.480 free here, um, that we really don't pay attention to things like that. Um, I mean, you know, you see

00:34:57.760 some of these PragerU videos, a lot of kids can't even tell you, you know, the, the 50 States,

00:35:02.300 they can't tell you, um, you know, they, they can't tell you, um, just basic geography here in

00:35:10.300 the United States of America, or, um, you know, any of our history or, you know, who, who our founding

00:35:17.660 fathers were or anything like that. They, they most certainly can't tell you what, you know,

00:35:22.220 president, president Xi, Xi of China, you know, what he said publicly about the U S or what the, I told,

00:35:28.260 I had told us in Iran, think about the U S or, um, you know, who the president of Russia is. And so

00:35:34.420 it's, it's just, um, I think it going back to something you said earlier, I think a lot of

00:35:38.600 it comes down to ignorance and, um, a lot of Westerners not really understanding geopolitics.

00:35:45.160 Well, I think it, I think you're right. I think also that we have a lot to lose because of our

00:35:50.220 freedoms. You know, we, we, uh, we live in pretty prosperous times, relatively speaking. Uh,

00:35:56.300 we, we have a lot of abundance. We do still have, believe it or not, a lot of freedoms that

00:36:00.440 most of the world throughout human history has never enjoyed. And so I think there's a lot of

00:36:04.980 people who are saying at least subconsciously, Hey, I don't want to rock the boat here. Cause

00:36:09.720 I've got a house, I've got a car, I've got a family, I've got a job. I have a somewhat meaningful

00:36:13.860 life. I've got a little freedom to do what I want. So why would I rock the boat? You know? And I think

00:36:19.060 that people need to wake up to the reality that, yeah, we could go South very, very quickly. In fact,

00:36:24.100 it seems like we have been to some degree. I would agree. And that's my point. That's

00:36:28.560 my point is that so much freedom, so much wealth, um, so much opportunity creates passivity and

00:36:35.820 complacency. That's exactly my point. And, and most of us, that's our nature when we, when

00:36:41.700 we're so blessed and we live in a nice house and we have a nice car and our kids are going

00:36:45.440 to a great school and we get to take a couple of vacations every year or one vacation a year.

00:36:51.320 And we feel like we're living this American dream. The natural tendency is to stay in that

00:36:57.400 little bubble of, um, you know, just what awesomeness or whatever you want to, whatever

00:37:05.120 you want to say, you don't want to rock the boat. You don't want to jeopardize that. Right.

00:37:08.060 And I get it. I totally get it. All I'm saying is, is that, um, times are changing. This country

00:37:15.980 is changing. The ingredients are changing. And I think because a lot of us stay in that little

00:37:21.540 bubble, we, we, we're missing what's going on around us. And, and because we stay in that little

00:37:26.580 bubble and because we don't pay attention, we don't really, we don't really see the writing on

00:37:32.500 the wall. And we, we have this idea and this arrogance that the United States of America,

00:37:37.320 nothing could ever happen here. Well, if you, you know, if you look throughout the history of the

00:37:42.000 world and all the empires that have fallen, you know, um, from the Greeks to the Romans, um,

00:37:50.200 and on and on and on, uh, I'm sure many of their people, um, thought the exact same thing. 0.95

00:37:56.180 Um, but, but due to often stupidity, foolishness, complacency, um, et cetera, those empires fell as 0.99

00:38:06.980 well. And that's, that's what I'm, uh, that's what I'm fighting for is to, and I'm a conservative 0.99

00:38:13.680 at the root word of conservative is the root word conserve. What does that really mean? I'm trying

00:38:19.360 to conserve the ingredients that made this place great in the first place. And that was, you know,

00:38:24.940 our, our framework, our founding documents, constitution, the bill of rights, limited government,

00:38:29.660 that's what our founders wanted. But you, you wouldn't know that if you watch the news today as,

00:38:34.960 as the federal government is now, you know, imposing, you know, people, you know, medical

00:38:40.840 treatment on people that don't want these types of medical treatments and, um, make, you know,

00:38:46.200 saying, Hey, you're going to lose your job. If you don't, you know, if you don't take this drug or,

00:38:50.440 you know, what, whatever it is. And, and that's what, that's what bothers me. I want to see people

00:38:55.700 be able to live their lives. And I realized that, you know, sometimes I come on strong and I have a,

00:39:01.840 I have strong beliefs that I realized that not everybody does. And I, and I think it's great

00:39:07.080 that you and I can have different beliefs and we can live in a country where we have different

00:39:11.240 beliefs and we live in a country where we can actually criticize, um, those in power, but we

00:39:16.200 have to, we have to understand how unique and special that is. Cause it's not like that around

00:39:20.640 the world in many places around the world. If, if, if, if I was to sit here on a podcast in many

00:39:27.000 countries around the world, um, and criticize the leader of my country, I could, I'd probably

00:39:34.080 be arrested within hours. Yeah, sure. I want to make sure that we, we continue to have the ability

00:39:40.440 to, you know, to do that because we're Americans. And if, and if we, like I said, if, if we, if we,

00:39:47.660 the people aren't engaged, it creates a power vacuum and that vacuum is always filled with something.

00:39:52.300 Yeah. Agreed. Well, you know, the other thing that I like about candidates like you and other

00:39:57.840 candidates is it seems to me there's, um, there's more military members running for office, which I

00:40:05.060 like because they've actually been in the battle. Uh, and then there's also more business owners

00:40:09.200 from, from my perspective, maybe I'm off, but at least anecdotally, it seems like there's more

00:40:13.740 business owners who are entering the political realm. And that's valuable because I think the old 0.99

00:40:20.700 guard is basically, Hey, you're going to grow up in this. You're going to be groomed into politics

00:40:25.180 by your parents or your grandparents, the family name. And then this is all you're going to do.

00:40:30.340 You're going to go to Ivy league college. You're going to become a lawyer and then you're going to

00:40:34.500 get into politics and that's going to be your life for generations. So I like this new, more

00:40:40.880 practical, like actually having to go out there and have a business or be in the military or in your

00:40:46.540 case, both. Yeah. I, you know, I, I don't,

00:40:50.700 I can't speak to the, you know, the business, how many, how many new business owners are running

00:40:56.320 in comparison to the past. But what I can tell you is, I mean, just to give you an idea,

00:41:01.300 um, this last cycle, I think there were at least eight or nine Navy SEALs that ran for Congress.

00:41:07.540 And let me tell you something, just because you're a Navy SEAL does not mean you're going to be a good

00:41:10.960 Congressman. It doesn't mean you're going to be a good leader. It doesn't mean you're going to be a

00:41:14.680 good anything. It means that at one point in your life, you did a pretty cool job and it took a lot to

00:41:20.200 get there. Um, but what, to your point, what I've noticed is, is, um, a lot of people that never

00:41:26.860 wanted to be in politics are recognizing the same, um, conditions that I am and seeing a sense of,

00:41:33.560 have, feel a sense of urgency to try and do something about it. And I tell people all the

00:41:37.900 time that if at one point in your life, you were willing to die for it, that's usually a pretty good

00:41:41.920 start. Now you have a lot, we have a lot to learn. Those of us that didn't grow up in politics.

00:41:47.000 I know I have a ton to learn. I know there's a ton, I don't know. Um, but to your point,

00:41:52.320 I like to see people that haven't spent a career in politics, you know, willing to run and represent

00:41:58.940 regular people, because I think that one, the longer you're in politics, the more likely you've

00:42:04.160 been corrupted. But, um, I don't think that's what our founders wanted. I think our founders wanted,

00:42:09.900 you know, regular people like, you know, you and I, and, uh, just normal folks to go represent

00:42:17.080 the constituents or the district. And then they come back after a couple of years and, and to

00:42:22.660 return to, uh, you know, doing our job. I don't think that they, I don't think that they necessarily

00:42:27.440 wanted, um, you know, career politicians leading this country, but, you know, um, unfortunately in,

00:42:34.340 in, in, uh, in these bodies, there's, we don't have something called term limits. And so the only

00:42:40.680 way you can do anything about that as a, as a politician, because I don't happen to believe

00:42:45.680 that most people that have this power are going to vote, um, you know, vote for a bill or legislation

00:42:53.320 that's going to kick them out of office. I think the only thing you can do is in that case is lead by

00:42:58.860 example and to term limit yourself. Yeah. I, so I used to be a heavy proponent of turn,

00:43:06.420 like there has to be term limits and I, and I'm not sure that perspective has changed,

00:43:11.500 but I've seen and heard different things, uh, especially having somewhat very limited access

00:43:18.100 to seeing a sneak behind the curtain a little bit with regards to how things get done. Um, you know,

00:43:24.360 you have junior congressmen who it's going to be hard for them to get things done, to navigate the

00:43:29.980 political waters. And so I see some of that need to have some of these senior type officials,

00:43:35.580 but, but somebody also said, and I, and I, I haven't thought too deeply on this, frankly,

00:43:41.280 but somebody said, you know, we do have term limit opportunities and that's by voting, you know,

00:43:46.960 it's like, but, but that goes back to what you were saying earlier is that we're so complacent.

00:43:51.780 We just vote party line or, you know, straight ticket, uh, or we don't vote at all because we

00:43:57.660 don't think it matters. And so we're not even exercising that opportunity to vote these people

00:44:02.020 in and out of office as we deem necessary. No, you're right. And it was interesting because when

00:44:08.200 I, when I started getting into politics and I started thinking about, um, you know, how, uh,

00:44:16.300 how many people I know who actually know who their congressman is. Most people don't even know who

00:44:21.440 their congressman is. And it just goes to show, it goes to one more, uh, example of that complacency,

00:44:26.940 um, and ignorance and how good we have it here that most of us feel like we don't even need to

00:44:33.240 participate because it's just a foregone conclusion that we're always going to have this, this wealth

00:44:39.000 and this opportunity and this prosperity. And I think it's, I think it's a dangerous way of thinking.

00:44:45.240 I, I understand it, but I think it's, uh, I think, uh, I think it leads to, uh, pretty dangerous

00:44:53.580 places. Well, we know it does, right. I mean, you, you've been saying that historically, we know

00:44:58.960 where this leads and we know where this goes. If we can't get involved in a meaningful way,

00:45:02.800 are you still, are you still involved heavily with, with, with, uh, uh, bottle breacher? Like,

00:45:08.580 is that something that you're still involved with? Or did you tell me a little bit about that?

00:45:13.480 No, we actually sold, we actually sold the business, I think about six or seven months ago.

00:45:18.080 So, okay. That's what I thought. Yeah. And it, you know, it was, uh, it was kind of bittersweet

00:45:22.200 for me. Um, obviously it was our baby. We started it organically in a garage and, uh, you know,

00:45:29.500 grew it. And, uh, that's always hard to, you know, part with something like that. But, um, me and Jen

00:45:35.560 both felt like that's, uh, the direction that we were supposed to head. And so, uh, you know,

00:45:41.040 we sold the business and, uh, and, uh, we've, we've, we're moving on and, uh, we're, you know,

00:45:47.500 we're wishing the new owners, uh, luck and, uh, hope, hope they're, you know, prosperous in what

00:45:53.040 they do. And, um, but at the same time, you know, uh, it reminds me of when I left the Navy,

00:45:58.820 Ryan, I was, I left it 13 years and most people were like, Eli, what are you doing, man? Why don't

00:46:03.500 you just, why don't you just stay for another seven, get your retirement? And I'm like, Hey,

00:46:07.640 this is, um, you know, this is where I feel like God's calling me. And I don't feel, uh,

00:46:14.820 you know, uh, my heart's not in it anymore. And the moment my heart's not in something, man,

00:46:20.880 you know, I, I, unless, unless I need to stay for, you know, something bigger than myself,

00:46:26.420 like my family, for whatever reason, if it's not a good spot, you know, good time for me to make it,

00:46:31.540 make an adjustment or a move, you know, I've always tried to, uh, always tried to listen and

00:46:37.500 to not be afraid to take, take risk and take chance. And, you know, it's, uh, led me to some

00:46:43.520 pretty cool places. And so even though people don't always understand it and they think, uh,

00:46:48.520 sometimes people, I know people in my journey have thought I was a little nutty, uh, especially

00:46:53.540 when I got out of the Navy and they're like, I was telling people I'm going to make bottle openers.

00:46:57.740 And they're like, what? It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But, um, but yeah, so yeah, 0.98

00:47:04.420 we're not, we're not really involved in that anymore, but it was a blessing and I'm glad we

00:47:09.460 got to experience it and experience it. And I'm glad I got to see how, how hard entrepreneurs work,

00:47:15.160 um, and experience that for a decade, because I mean, wow. I mean, it may, it really makes me a

00:47:21.080 pretty, regardless of whether I walk into like somebody's fast food chain or whether I walk into,

00:47:26.980 you know, um, you know, another, another small business, I know how hard it is now. And it just,

00:47:33.400 it makes me appreciate, you know, the risk that, you know, people take every day, you know,

00:47:39.860 get, you know, get up and say, Hey, I'm going to work for myself. Um, and I'm going to offer a product

00:47:45.240 or a service, um, you know, to the people of my community or, you know, people of this nation. And,

00:47:51.460 uh, and, and it's just really, it's just really cool. And I think it's a big part of what what's

00:47:57.280 made this country. So awesome. Yeah. I mean, obviously I believe in small business. I mean,

00:48:01.560 I'm, I'm a small business owner myself. One, one point of contention I have among others,

00:48:06.060 uh, with, with the government is this insistent need of trying to help people or, or even small

00:48:17.620 businesses is another one. It's like, well, you know, I'm going to come in here and help these

00:48:21.160 small businesses. Like, I don't, I think you're misunderstood, not you personally, but I think

00:48:25.820 there's a lot of misunderstanding about the role of government. Like it's not the government's job

00:48:32.080 to come in and like support a business. It's not the government's job to come in and make sure

00:48:36.860 that everybody's okay. Uh, and, and that's a good way I think to get brownie points, uh, and to get

00:48:43.880 voted in, but it's a very frustrating thing. I just look at it and think, no, the government's

00:48:48.280 job is to make sure there's a level playing field and that everybody has the same opportunity.

00:48:53.300 And then it's off to the races from there. Right. And not to come in and say, well,

00:48:58.540 this business needs help and that business doesn't need help. It infuriates me.

00:49:03.780 Yeah, no, it, it, it, I, I get you and you're, you know, it sounded like a pretty, uh,

00:49:09.240 solid conservative. Um, but you know, yeah, I mean, and that's kind of, that, that's kind of the

00:49:17.060 road, the slow road towards socialism, right. Where business or the government starts to pick

00:49:22.900 winners and losers. And I think a lot of us felt that way during COVID for instance, my business

00:49:28.100 was deemed a non-essential. So we were shut down, you know, for 30 days and, uh, but yet, yet you go

00:49:36.480 into some of these big chains and they surely you go into a Walmart, it wasn't shut down, you know,

00:49:42.680 and, and, you know, so you had this, you know, government involvement in, you know, kind of

00:49:48.880 picking winners and losers, but to your point, you're right. That's not the responsibility

00:49:53.100 of government. And I talked about our founders and our framers wanted limited government. They

00:50:00.080 wanted the government to stay out of your life. And, um, you know, that's one of the things that I

00:50:05.260 want to also see return to, um, America and our culture is a more limited government, but that is

00:50:12.700 not the direction that the left, you know, wants to take us. And, and I'll go back to, you know,

00:50:19.240 the ideological subversion and trying to teach, you know, um, trying to teach our kids from a young age

00:50:26.040 in school, um, that that is the government's job. And, uh, and if they can, if they can continue to

00:50:33.380 promote that ideology and, uh, and make sure that kids aren't taught, um, what our government's actual

00:50:41.940 role is, um, in this culture in America, um, I think that you're, we're going to continue to see,

00:50:49.820 um, the United States go towards more and more of a nanny state until it's full-blown socialism.

00:50:56.160 And, and it's one of the things that I'm trying to stop by, um, by running.

00:51:01.580 This idea of ideological subversion is very, it's very interesting to me. It, it, I know when people

00:51:06.880 hear it, it, it almost border borders, conspiracy theory stuff. I think this is when a lot of people

00:51:12.020 get lost in it and they're like, ah, nah, nah, I'm done. It's true. It's true. So I'm going to have

00:51:17.360 to go research, uh, a little bit for myself on that, but I am curious, let's just assume that

00:51:23.180 this is the case and it sounds like it is, but how do we then reclaim these institutions? I think

00:51:29.060 of academia, I think about the medical community, obviously the government, uh, even media, uh, how

00:51:35.680 do we begin to reclaim or at least interject into some of these, these, uh, compromised institutions

00:51:42.800 that, that, uh, are dictating and shaping much of society and culture today.

00:51:48.100 Yeah. Well, I, it, you can sum it up with one word and the word has negative connotation to it,

00:51:53.520 but it's really activism. You know, I taught activism. We, we, when we think of activism,

00:51:58.960 we, we think of, you know, Antifa writers, you know, right. You know, screaming and pulling their

00:52:05.500 hair out and, you know, in, in Portland or something like that. But activism is really just taking action.

00:52:10.860 And I talked about it a second ago and, um, my skills, talents, abilities aren't, aren't yours,

00:52:17.340 but every single one of us needs to look in the mirror and say, okay, what, what skills, talents,

00:52:22.360 and abilities do I have? And how can I use, how can I use them to be a part of, uh, you know,

00:52:28.760 being the change that I want to see. And that, that's how, that's how we do it because we, there,

00:52:33.640 we really are the silent majority in this country, whether you're looking at, whether you are a

00:52:38.620 registered Republican, whether you're a Democrat or whether you're an independent, I think most of

00:52:43.600 us, you know, a lot of us want to be left alone. A lot of us want to continue to live the American

00:52:48.820 dream. And a lot of us want to be able to be prosperous. I know a lot of Democrats that don't

00:52:53.160 like, um, you know, seeing, you know, some of the things that are going on, you know, with,

00:52:58.540 within that party. And I, I even know Republicans that aren't happy about some of the things that are

00:53:02.660 going on in the, in the Republican party. But at the end of the day, to answer your question, it's,

00:53:07.480 it's activism. You have each and every one of us has to one realize that we have a system that's

00:53:14.540 of buying for the people, right? Like I keep saying, I keep hammering that I keep hammering it,

00:53:19.340 but if we're not engaged and if you're complacent and if you're more focused on your fast food and

00:53:25.820 what's on Netflix tonight, and you don't, you don't engage in this culture, it, it, it does create a

00:53:32.120 power vacuum that is often throughout the course of humanity and history filled by, um, you know,

00:53:39.140 dictatorships, oppression, um, that the individual with the most powerful or with the most power,

00:53:46.960 the strongest, you know, and often it, it doesn't usually lead to, uh, a place that's prosperous and,

00:53:55.680 uh, you know, abounds in freedom. And so that, that, that's my, that's my call to the people that

00:54:01.780 are watching your show, whether I ever become a Congressman or not, Ryan, that that's what it's

00:54:06.420 going to take is people getting off their butts and realizing, Hey, you know, I may never, I may

00:54:12.220 not want to run for Congress or I might not want to start a podcast like, like Ryan, but I can go

00:54:17.760 down and I can be a PC committee member or PC committee men, or I can, uh, I can be a poll,

00:54:24.200 poll watcher and go make sure that, you know, um, when we're having elections here, that there's no

00:54:28.780 shady business going on. Like every single one of you can do every single one of us can do something.

00:54:33.800 And, and I think that that's, you know, that's the type of, uh, education and, and messaging that

00:54:40.120 we've got to, we've got to promote. That's awesome. Yeah. I really appreciate that perspective.

00:54:45.980 Well, Eli, thanks for joining me today. Tell the guys how to connect with you, learn more about what

00:54:49.600 you're doing in your platform, of course, and your message. And, uh, I'm going to give you that

00:54:53.740 opportunity. Thanks, Ryan. I appreciate it, man. So, yeah, if you guys want to go, uh,

00:54:58.220 check our website out, it's Eli4Arizona.com. Um, Eli, uh, Crane CEO on social media, um, and Eli

00:55:07.020 Crane for Congress on social media as well. So if you guys want to go look us up, please do it. Um,

00:55:13.000 but you know, Ryan, thanks for the opportunity, man. It's, it's been an honor.

00:55:17.260 You bet. Thank you. Good luck with everything and keep up the good fight. Appreciate it, man.

00:55:21.640 Thanks brother. All right, you guys, there you go. My conversation with Eli Crane. I hope you

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Order of Man - October 04, 2022

ELI CRANE ｜ Power vs. Principle

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