FFN 103: Building a Tribe, Developing Confidence, and the Drive for Bigger and Better
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In this episode of Friday Field Notes, I answer a few of your most pressing questions and give a quick update on my life, family, business, and life as a man. I hope you enjoy this one, and if you have any questions or suggestions for me to answer in the future, please let me know!
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You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart
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your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time. Every time.
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You are not easily deterred or defeated. Rugged. Resilient. Strong. This is your life. This is who
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you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done,
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you can call yourself a man. Gentlemen, what is going on today? My name is Ryan
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Mickler, and I am the host and the founder of this podcast, The Order of Man. This, guys,
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is a movement. It's a movement to help myself, to help you, to help every man across the planet
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become a better man in his home, his business, his community, his life in general. So regardless
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of where you are trying to improve, I believe you're trying to improve. Otherwise, you wouldn't
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be listening to this podcast. But if you are new, that's what we're all about here. And what we do
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is we interview the world's most successful men, warriors, athletes, scholars, New York
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Times bestselling authors. I mean, you name it. If they have a successful story and they're doing
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good and amazing things in their lives as men, we are interviewing those guys. We're extracting
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their lessons, and then we are delivering them to you in the form of this podcast. Now, this one,
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guys, if you are new again today, this one's a little different. This is our Friday field notes,
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which is me. You get to listen to me for 10 to 15 to 20 minutes or so. This one might go a
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little bit longer because we're changing up the format today as kind of a one-off in some things
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that some guys have asked me to do. So today, instead of just sharing some thoughts that I have
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from bouncing around in my brain throughout the week and the experiences that I have on a daily
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basis with my family and my business and the interactions that I have, I thought what I would
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do is I would reach out to the order, that I would reach out to the community. We've got a thriving
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Facebook group. I think without looking at it, we've got roughly 44,000 men in our Facebook
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group. And if you are interested in that, by the way, you can head to facebook.com slash groups
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slash order of man and join us over there. We're having some amazing, amazing conversations about
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anything from asking for promotions to reconnecting with kids and our wives to starting new businesses,
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to getting in shape, to the mindset, whatever conversation you may want to have as a man,
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I can guarantee you that we're having those conversations. And so what I did this week is I
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just sent a message out in that Facebook group. And I said, I want to answer your questions.
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You know, sometimes it's good to hear what I have to say, but at the end of the day,
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if it doesn't land or resonate with what you want to hear, what good is it actually doing?
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So I reached out to the guys in the Facebook group. I said, what are your most pressing questions?
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And today I've got about, I'm looking at it right here. I've got about 12 to 15. I'm going to try to
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get through all of these. I don't know if I will. I will try to get through all of them.
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Uh, and we'll just see how far we can get some. I'm going to have short answers to some might be
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a little bit more in depth, but I will tell you this. I've read the questions, but I do not have
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any predetermined answers. I haven't scripted out these answers. I don't know exactly what I'm going
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to say. I'm going to speak from the heart, speak from my mind and speak from my experience. If I have
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an answer, I'll share it with you. If I don't have an answer, I'll share that with you as well.
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Now, normally guys, this is where I do the announcements and I share with you all of the wonderful
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things that we have going on, but I'm going to skip that right now because I can, I think
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I can weave some of that in throughout the conversation and the answers. And I just want
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to get into these things so we can get through as many as possible. So we'll just jump right
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into it guys. And if you have any questions or anything that you would like me to answer
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in the future, uh, the best way to do that is to join the Facebook group, facebook.com slash
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groups slash order of man. All right, let's get into this. Number one, Leland McNally.
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He says, how do you find a new tribe when the current tribe becomes complacent? Look,
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I completely understand when the current tribe becomes complacent. I know for me, there was
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a lot of times in my life where I felt like I was the only one who wanted to thrive, who
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want to succeed, who wanted to push. And so I can certainly understand when you're looking
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around at the men next to you, to your left and right, and you feel like these guys aren't
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on the same path. And frankly, we outgrow people sometimes. I know that's not easy to
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hear. I know you don't want to hear that necessarily. There may be men in your life who you've been
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friends with since kindergarten or, or even brothers, family who you've outgrown. And I'm
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not saying you need to ditch those relationships, but I am saying that you need to be deliberate
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and intentional about leveling up. And that's what it's all about. It's about leveling up the
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connections, leveling up the network, leveling up the relationships that you have and having
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other men in your life who are succeeding in the ways that you want to succeed is critical.
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So the question is, how do you do that? Well, number one, you need to know what you want.
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If you don't know what you want, then who, who are you going to surround yourself with? You don't
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even know who to surround yourself with. So for example, if you said, well, I really need to improve
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in my fitness. I want to get in shape. I want to cut back some fat. I want to run a marathon.
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I want to do a triathlon. I want to do a Spartan race. Well, that's good. That's, that's what you
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want. Now you have to find those people who are doing what you want to do. So the best way to find
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men who are in shape is to do what go to the gym. And that's what I did. I started doing CrossFit
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and I found guys there at CrossFit who I resonated with, who I connected with, who were achieving
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results, obviously physically. And I reached out to them and I connected with them. Uh, there's
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masterminds. Let's say you want to grow a business or you want to start a podcast. Maybe you want to
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start a podcast like this? Well, where do you go? You go where the podcasters are. And there's
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an infinite number of mastermind groups who are talking about how to podcast. There's Facebook
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groups. Uh, there's another great tool that I use, which is called meetup.com. If you're not familiar
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with that, go to meetup.com and you can find people who are extremely interested in whatever you are
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interested in, whether that's hiking or shooting or running or lifting or sewing. I mean, I don't
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know. I don't know what your thing is. Photography, whatever your thing is, meetup.com is a great place
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to find other people who are very interested in that thing as well. I would also jump online and
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figure out what conferences and what networks and what courses and what activities are going on in your
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area. At the end of the day, the answer is very simple. Go where the people are. And it's not just
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anybody, but go where the people are who are achieving the results that you want to achieve
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and put yourself out there and connect and, and offer praise to those people and compliments to
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those people and ask them questions and look for their feedback and try to connect with them.
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And the more that you do that, the more success that you'll have in building a tribe who is not
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complacent, a tribe who is growing and expanding and look in your current circle. You know, there's
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people in your current circle, whether it's your family or colleagues, friends, coworkers,
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neighbors who are achieving some results and they haven't even been on your radar.
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So look in your current circle and see, okay, this guy is succeeding in business.
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Maybe I can just take him to lunch. Maybe I can just ask him a few questions. It's very simple.
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If you go where the people are and you put yourself out there. All right. So number two,
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Matthew Souders. Now I might butcher that Souders, I believe is how it's pronounced.
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He says, what's the best way to build a new network when you have moved across the country
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state and you truly don't know anyone. I think it's very similar to what I just gave. So I'm
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not going to drone on about this, but again, meetup.com is a great place. Look for your
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colleagues, look to your coworkers, look to your neighbors. Maybe there's a religious or church
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institution that you are involved with that you can get involved with. Maybe it's running wherever
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the people are, just go where the people are. And guys, I'm naturally an introvert.
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Uh, I like being around people, but at the same time, sometimes frankly, it drains me.
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So I have to force myself to go where the people are and communicate with other people. It's not
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something that comes natural or easy for me. It's just something I recognize as being important.
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And the more I put myself out there and the more I get around other people and the more I go to
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conferences and the more I attend events and the more I go to these outings that are happening in my
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area, uh, the more success I have with my network. It's really not that complex. It's very simple.
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It's difficult. I think in theory to, to, to practice, but it's a very simple process. Again,
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meetup.com go where the people are, do that over and over and over again. And I think you'll have
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success. All right. Next one, Josh McDavid says, what are some of the best methods for instituting
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discipline in your life? When you formatted a habit of being undisciplined? Oh, I think that
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the answer is in the question. You said you formed a habit of being undisciplined. So what you need to
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do is form a habit of being disciplined and start with the low hanging fruit. Start with getting out
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of bed on time. Start with not hitting the snooze. Well, how do you do that? You put the little systems
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in place to ensure that you can't hit the snooze button, put your phone across the room, put it
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downstairs, whatever you need to do in order to ensure that you're not going to hit that snooze
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button. That's number one. Number two, wake up and go to the gym. Or even if you don't go to the gym,
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just exercise, get your body moving. Maybe that's a quick walk and put the processes in place to
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ensure that will happen. One of the things I did when I tried to get back in shape for the first
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time in maybe five, six years was I found a buddy who wanted to go do the same thing. And he wanted to
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walk in the morning. And so he would meet me every, every morning at six o'clock or whatever the time
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was. And I knew he was going to be there relying upon me. And if I wasn't there, I would let him
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down. And if he wasn't there, he would let me down. And there was days where either one of us didn't
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want to do it. And yet we did because we had that accountability. We had that system in place. So
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start with the low hanging fruit, make lists, make things that you need to get done and just start
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checking off that list. Again, not a very complex process or system here. It's very, very simple.
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Go for the low hanging fruit. And what's the benefit of discipline. And then the nice thing
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about the way discipline works is that if you become more disciplined in one area, that will
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naturally bleed over into other areas. So be disciplined in one area, the low hanging fruit,
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working out, not hitting the snooze, drinking all the water that you want to, or having the
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conversations that you want to, or making the certain amount of calls, track everything,
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put the processes and systems in place and just compound those things every single day.
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And the last little word I'll give you on this is don't focus on the win as being the end result.
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So for example, if you said, I want to lose 30 pounds, well, that's going to require some
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discipline. If you focus on that, if you focus on 30 pounds, I got to lose 30 pounds. I got to lose
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30 pounds. And that's all you're focusing on. It's very easy to lose discipline. But if you focus
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on the win being doing the activities, the certain little small tactics on a daily basis
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that will inevitably produce the 30 pound weight loss, that's what you're going to choose to focus
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on. And that's where your energy and attention is going to go. And you're naturally going to be
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more disciplined by doing it. So what does that look like? Exercise an hour every day. Maybe it's
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cutting out processed sugars. Maybe it's drinking a certain amount of a water per day. Those are the
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tactics that you need to focus on and measure the win on a daily basis by those things.
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All right. Next, Steve, actually, Stephen, sorry. Stephen Sanders says with your financial
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background, what do you think most people should be doing with any extra money they have? Savings,
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investments, et cetera. Well, I think there's a couple of different buckets on this. And I do have
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a financial planning background. I'm not going to give you specific advice on this necessarily,
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but I think there's a couple of different buckets. Number one is debt, right? You've got
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to pay off debt. And I'm not saying these are necessarily in any order. It just depends on
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what you're trying to accomplish. But if you have outstanding debt, that should be a top priority.
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Maybe not the top or the number one priority, but it should be a top priority. Debt will enslave you.
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It will consume your thoughts and your mind and your actions. It will consume everything about you.
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So get that debt paid off. The second thing is savings and savings is different than investments.
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Savings might produce a quarter percent or a half a percent return if you're lucky.
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So this is not an investment strategy. This is having money set aside for a rainy day.
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If something happens, if you need it, it is there, it is available. You can take care of those
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emergencies or whatever it may be when they come up. And the third bucket is investments. And there's a
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lot of different strategies here. Might be the stock market and mutual funds. Might be cryptocurrency.
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Could be real estate. I think those are the biggest, obviously. And that's where I would
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recommend starting. If you're just getting started, you probably want to look at some low cost
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mutual funds or index funds as I think that's probably the lowest hanging fruit. And that's
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probably going to be the best place if you're just going to get started. And if you're down that
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road, then you can look into other investments like business, cryptocurrency, real estate. Some of those
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are the things as well. So those are the three buckets, debt, savings, and investments. All right.
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Next one, Bubba Downs. Now you guys might recognize his name. He is the host of our Wednesday show
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in the trenches. He says, when building confidence, especially in this world, how do you grow more
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confident in sharing the parts of your life that you're not proud of so that others can learn from
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your mistakes? Now this is tough because I know not everybody's in this situation. So I think first
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and foremost, you've got to ask yourself why, because there's this movement and it's really
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interesting. There's this movement in this word. Okay. I've heard this word over and over and over
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again. And that word is vulnerability. Then men have to be vulnerable. And I disagree. I think there's
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times where we can express vulnerability, but I think to be vulnerable for the sake of being vulnerable
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is a mistake because at times, quite frankly, it hinders our job and our performance as men.
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And sometimes we don't need to be emotional and we don't need to be vulnerable. Sometimes we need
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to be a little bit more stoic and get the job done, the job that's required of us. So that's
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number one. But if you feel like that you have a strong why, or maybe you're sharing this because
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you want to see other people improve, or maybe you're starting a podcast like this one, or you
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want to put a message out on the world that will serve other people. What's the best way to do it?
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You just, you just do it. You know, how do you grow more confident? You, you do it. I wish there
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was a better answer, not even a better answer. I wish there was a more elaborate answer, but the
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reality is the best way to grow confidence, whether it's sharing a story or in your body or in your
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ability to ask for a raise or in your ability to approach women is to do the very thing that you're
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lacking confidence in. There's no shortcut. There's no magic phrase or formula that I can give you and say,
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just do X, Y, and Z. And all of a sudden, pow, you're confident. It doesn't work like that.
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You have to earn that confidence and you earn it again by doing the thing that you're not confident
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in. So doing that thing again, whether it's sharing a story like Bubba saying here or talking
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with a woman or asking for a raise, if that scares you and you don't have the confidence to do that,
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that's okay because you don't need the confidence to do it. What you need is courage. You need the
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balls to be able to go do the thing that you're afraid of doing. And that's something every single
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man has to some capacity, to some degree has the ability to be courageous, to be bold, to do
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something, even though he's afraid of doing it and just getting it done. And then you'll notice by doing
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it, that confidence is the result. It's the reward. It's the, it's the, the end result of doing
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the work and taking the actions. All right, guys, next, any advice on helping sons? He says
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specifically 11 years old, deal with their anger in an appropriate manner instead of lashing out,
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man, this is tough. My oldest is 10. So he's right there and I can see anger welling up inside. Part of
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that is the way that I display my anger and anger is an emotion. It's not bad. It's not good. It's
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simply an indicator of what's working well or what's not working well in our lives. And if we're angry,
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there's something off, that's a metric, that's a benchmark. And so if we're using that benchmark as
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the indicator that we should self-destruct or we should be destructive around ourselves and to
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other people, well, that's a, that's a negative outlet. Society calls that toxic masculinity.
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I call it undeveloped masculinity because it's, it's childlike, it's immature. And I'm not saying
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I'm not guilty of that. I certainly am. But number one is you've got to lead by example. When you're
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angry, communicate that with your 11 year old son and say, son, I'm angry. And here's why I'm angry,
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but here's how I'm handling it. Like a mature, responsible, intelligent man. He's going to see
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that he wants to be like you by default. He wants to be like you. So if you're not giving that example,
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well, yeah, he's going to, he's going to act like you and he's going to do the things that you do.
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Number two, I would say that you need to get him involved in some sort of physical activity.
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I happen to think that competitive sports at a young age is the catalyst for development for a
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young man. So my two oldest boys, 10 and eight years old, excuse me, seven, 10 and seven, I've
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got four of them. So sometimes I get the ages off 10 and seven years old. They are both heavily
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involved in competitive sports because I want them to be able to use the energy that they have in a
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constructive way and learn how to win and learn how to lose and learn how to work as a team and learn
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how to overcome failure and obstacles and hardship and trials and adversity. And I think there's very
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few areas that can replicate what a competitive physical sports can do. And when I say competitive,
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I literally mean competitive, like you're competing as in keeping score. If you're just going out and
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frolicking around in the field and looking at the dandelions and looking up at the clouds and
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imagining little shapes in the clouds, well, there's a time and a place for that, but there's also a time
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and a place to compete because as John Eldredge says, every man is trying to answer this question
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and every boy is answering this question as well. Am I enough? And when you look at the scoreboard and
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that boy sees that the score is five to seven, not in his favor, he realizes he is not enough.
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And then the man comes in and says, great, how can we get you there? You as a father, Abraham,
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who's asking this question, he's going to ask you, he's going to look to you and you've got to be,
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again, that example that helps him with that. And then also finding constructive outlets that he
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enjoys. Maybe he enjoys painting or building Legos is something big that we do around here or
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shooting a bow or whatever, whatever that looks like for you, but be the example, get him involved
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in competitive sports and find an outlet that he really enjoys and get him involved with that.
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All right, guys, I'm looking at the time. I know we're not going to get nearly to where I want to
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get to on these. We're about halfway through right now. And I think I'll take one or two more
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questions here. Jason Fincannon, I think is how it's pronounced says, how do you keep your self
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improvement momentum going or kick it back up when life's tasks and responsibilities kick into
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overdrive for a while? And you just want to take a break when it levels back out. That's part one.
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The second part of that, he says, seems getting myself back on track for the journey to the be the
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best has taken a little too long after some of those runs. Look, I get it. And sometimes there's
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stations in life. Sometimes you do need to take a break. Sometimes you've been go, go, go, go,
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go, go as long as you can. And you're redlining. That's not sustainable. It really isn't. And I
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think we do ourselves an injustice when we look at other quote unquote influencers or podcasters or
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men out in the world who seem to be a hundred percent all the time. I'm here to tell you that
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is an illusion. All right. You're looking at social media. You're looking at blogs. You're looking at
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podcasts. You're looking at what I'm doing and thinking that, oh, Ryan's always on the go or Ryan's
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always doing this. No. I mean, quite honestly, social media is a highlight reel. So you're seeing
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the best of the best, but you're not seeing the downtimes. You're not seeing when I'm sitting
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down, reading a book or on a walk with my family, you don't see that stuff. But that downtime is just
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as important as the uptime as when you are redlining and you can't redline. You can't go hard unless you
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learn how to go not so hard occasionally. So that's okay. It's okay to do that. Now there also comes a time
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where you do need to kick it in gear and you need to ramp things up. And I think the best way to do
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that is have some worthy goal, have some worthy ambition, have some battle that you're interested
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in engaging in. And if you find yourself sitting on the couch or doing whatever it is you're doing
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and not really going, I'd say that the first thing you need to look at is what's driving you,
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what's motivating you, what pisses you off, what fires you up, what gets you excited about getting out
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of bed. And if you can't answer that question, that's your first step. What is it that you want?
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What do you, what do you want to create? What problem do you want to solve? What battle do you
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want to engage in? What, what hurdle or challenge do you want to try to tackle? If you don't have that,
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yeah, you're not going to get out of bed. You're not going to be motivated. You're not going to be
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inspired. You're going to be stuck in a dead end job. You didn't come home, plop your ass on the couch,
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watch the same shows you've always watched, do the same things you've always done, disengage from your
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wife and kids, and you're not going to be motivated about those things. So step number one is find
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something you're passionate about, find something that fires you up and just take a step. You know,
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you don't have to solve the problem, but you do have to take the first step. And that's what I've
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done here with order of man is I had this, this problem that I recognized in society, this lack
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of masculinity or a dismissal of masculinity. And I thought to myself, well, what can I do?
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And the thing that I knew how to do at the time was, was podcast. So I started a podcast.
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And then I had enough guys say, well, what's next? And so we started a mastermind group,
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the iron council. A lot of you guys are familiar with that. And I have guys asking what's next and
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what's next and what's next. And through the process of taking one small step every single
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day for the past three years, well, I find myself in a position in which I'm motivated and inspired
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and uplifted and energized. I want to get out of bed. I want to come down here into my office and I
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want to do this podcast and I want to answer your questions. And I want to serve you as men
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and help you and myself become better men because I was willing to take the first step.
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All right, guys, I'm going to get to the next question. And I think we're going to wrap it up,
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but I will do this in the future. We'll do some more. Greg Griffiths asks, how do you get to a
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place where you can keep yourself from sliding back into a rut to maintain? This kind of ties in line
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with that last question that Jason asked. I think the best way to do that is to have, again, some
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worthy goal, some worthy ambition, like what's next. You should always be asking yourself what's
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next. Whenever I have a win and one in particular that I can think of is with the book. I just wrote
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the book a couple of months ago, released sovereignty, the battle for the hearts and minds of
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men. And I got done and that book was sent to me and I held it in my hands. And quite honestly,
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I got a little tear in my eye with how excited I was, but it was, it was fleeting. It left very
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quickly that that thrill and that excitement went away very, very quickly for me within 24 hours. And I
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woke up the next morning and I thought to myself, why am I not as excited as I, as I thought I would
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be? Why am I not still hopped up on this? Well, the answer was because I was on what was next.
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I was thinking about what's, what's, what's forward, what's moving me forward, what's driving
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me, what's keeping me motivated. What can I do next? That's bigger and better than this. And there's
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certainly a time to celebrate, but there's also a time to get over it. I had a baseball coach who
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you're going to be hearing on the podcast in the next couple of weeks when I was in high school.
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And he says, you're only as good as your last dad bat. Think about that for a second. You're
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only as good as your last dad bat. I know guys that still celebrate 20 years later, how good
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they were in high school. What a shame because they're missing all of the opportunity and the
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potential for growth in their life because they're focused on backwards rather than forward.
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So ask yourself, what's next? What's my next battle? What's the next thing I want to fight?
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What's the next engagement? What's the next thing for me? What's the thing that's hopping
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me up right now? And start moving in that direction. Start doing the one thing that's
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going to get you to the place that you feel like you want to go. And if you realize down
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the road, it's not the right direction. Okay. That's fine. You can pivot, but you've got
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to be excited about something. You've got to engage in a battle. And I think men need to
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have activity. We need to have a battle. John Eldridge, I just quoted him a minute ago.
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He says, deep in his heart, every man longs for a battle to fight, an adventure to live
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and a beauty to rescue. I believe that to be true. If you don't have those three things,
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then I think you're missing a critical, critical component of your life as a man.
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So anyways, guys, I answered, I don't know, eight or so right there. I thought I would get
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through all of these. I'll have to do this again. Cause we've got another five or six questions
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that guys have asked and I'll get to them. I will. But for now, just for the sake of time
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and wrap things up, I hope that helps. I hope that gives you some insight into the way that
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I look at how this world works and man, I certainly don't have it all figured out.
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I've got a few things figured out. I'm more than happy to share the few things I have figured
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out. And then I learned, I learned just as much from you and the rest of the order in
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this movement than, than you probably learned from me. So I want to say on that note that I
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do thank you. I do appreciate you. None of this can happen. I mean, this is, this is
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literally growing to hundreds of thousands and we're closing in on millions and millions
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of men across the planet who are listening to this podcast, who are engaging in what we're
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doing. And again, it just couldn't be done without you. So on that note, I would encourage
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you guys to join our Facebook group. I mentioned it a couple of times, facebook.com slash groups
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slash order of man. So check that out. If you are interested in taking it a step further,
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we've got our exclusive brotherhood with roughly 375 men in that group, order of man.com
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slash iron council. I appreciate those of you who asked questions. It was Leland McNally,
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Matthew Souders, Josh McDavid, Steven Sanders, Bubba Downs, Abraham Christensen, Jason Fincannon,
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and Greg Griffiths. I'll get to these other questions another time. Guys, until then take
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action and become the man you are meant to be. Thank you for listening to the order of man podcast.
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