Order of Man - IAN WENDT ｜ Become a Man of Conviction

00:00:00.000 As men, we're hardwired to look for problems we see within the environments around us.

00:00:05.340 Unfortunately, too few of us are willing to take the next step and do something about

00:00:09.500 the issues that we identify.

00:00:11.460 My guest today is not that kind of man.

00:00:14.120 His name is Ian Wendt, and he's taking a stand against some of the most polarizing

00:00:19.460 social issues of the day.

00:00:21.560 Today, Ian and I talk about overcoming the opinions of others, when to compromise and

00:00:26.360 when not to, how excellence is the ultimate rebellion, how a man ought to show up in his

00:00:31.680 community, and ultimately becoming a man of conviction.

00:00:35.520 You're a man of action.

00:00:37.020 You live life to the fullest.

00:00:38.460 Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.

00:00:41.340 When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.

00:00:45.720 You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.

00:00:50.680 This is your life.

00:00:51.780 This is who you are.

00:00:53.200 This is who you will become.

00:00:54.500 And at the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

00:01:00.160 Gentlemen, what is going on today?

00:01:01.540 My name is Ryan Mickler.

00:01:03.060 I'm the host and the founder of the Order of Man podcast.

00:01:06.040 Today, I'm talking with Ian Wendt about becoming a man of conviction.

00:01:09.720 And a man of conviction doesn't just simply have strong beliefs.

00:01:13.860 It matches his actions and his deeds with the things that he believes.

00:01:19.040 So Ian and I are going to talk a lot about that today.

00:01:21.540 Before we get into it, if you're new, just want to let you know this is a podcast dedicated

00:01:26.120 to helping you become the man that you want to be, the man that you're meant to be.

00:01:30.580 We've got this podcast.

00:01:32.020 We do events.

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00:01:39.160 middle of March.

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00:01:42.840 But you can head to orderofman.com slash iron council.

00:01:47.140 So glad you're here.

00:01:48.960 Please make sure you share the show and promote what we're doing because you know, as well

00:01:52.980 as I do, that we need to bring back manliness, bring back masculinity and serve ourselves,

00:01:58.860 our families, our communities and the world.

00:02:00.920 So guys, let's get right into it.

00:02:02.460 As I said, my guest today is a good friend and he's somebody that I admire because he's

00:02:07.080 willing to put his money where his mouth is, which as you know, is an increasing rarity

00:02:12.080 today.

00:02:12.580 His name is Ian Wendt and he's got a successful history in communication sales, but has since

00:02:18.760 launched his own brand and apparel company called Official Patriot Gear.

00:02:24.380 The message is simple.

00:02:25.500 Patriotism is not partisan.

00:02:27.880 And he's taking this message to the masses and drawing light and attention to some of the

00:02:33.680 most controversial and polarizing subjects of today's culture and society.

00:02:39.840 Enjoy this one, gents.

00:02:42.080 Ian, what's up, man?

00:02:43.220 Thanks for joining me on the podcast today.

00:02:44.980 Yeah.

00:02:45.120 Thanks for having me, man.

00:02:46.100 Happy to be here.

00:02:47.140 Looks like you had some changes to the studio since, uh, since last week.

00:02:51.400 Are you in the same place that you were last week when we chatted?

00:02:54.160 No, no.

00:02:55.000 So last week, last week I was actually in our storefront that we're building out.

00:02:58.760 Um, and, uh, I was just sitting in the back where we had like, it was just construction,

00:03:04.820 all kinds of stuff.

00:03:05.480 And so just terrible sound and everything.

00:03:07.320 So I actually found a, I found a building in town.

00:03:10.500 I live in a really, really small town and I found a building that had a soundproof room.

00:03:14.660 Believe it or not.

00:03:15.660 Nice.

00:03:15.940 Yeah.

00:03:16.260 I looked on, I looked on like Facebook cause I was like, I don't know what the freak I'm

00:03:19.280 going to do because it's, you know, it's still like a week away.

00:03:22.060 So anyway, found this room and, uh, rented it out and just went and grabbed a microphone

00:03:27.920 from the closest store to us.

00:03:29.720 And here we are.

00:03:31.540 No, I'm really glad we could make this work.

00:03:33.420 I think this has been one of the wilder, uh, times that I've had in scheduling.

00:03:39.540 Like, I think I missed a day.

00:03:41.220 I was a day off or something.

00:03:42.500 And then we ended up getting together and the sound quality wasn't great.

00:03:48.000 And I really wanted to make sure it was good for the guys.

00:03:50.180 And then you messaged me yesterday.

00:03:52.180 You're like, are we doing this?

00:03:53.300 I'm like, I think it's tomorrow.

00:03:54.720 So regardless, we finally made it work, man.

00:03:58.420 Yeah, man.

00:03:59.000 Yeah.

00:03:59.200 And I'm, I'm happy to be here, dude.

00:04:00.320 This is a, this is a long time coming.

00:04:01.720 Thanks for having me.

00:04:02.720 Yeah, you bet.

00:04:03.480 You bet.

00:04:03.940 Yeah.

00:04:04.180 I'm really impressed with what you're doing.

00:04:05.500 I think, um, it shouldn't be as controversial as it is.

00:04:09.380 Uh, I, I actually don't think it should be as rare as it is with regards to what you

00:04:13.200 do either.

00:04:14.160 Uh, and that is just talk about things that I think in society,

00:04:18.000 tend to be a bit taboo.

00:04:21.320 Uh, and, and I think we're going to get into that, but I really do want to hear your story

00:04:25.440 as to why you started talking about these cultural issues, these societal issues, as

00:04:31.460 opposed to just kind of keeping your head down and going about with the status quo.

00:04:36.400 Yeah.

00:04:37.080 Um, yeah, I've told, I've told the story a lot, so I'm going to try and condense it.

00:04:40.380 Cause I, I, I knew, uh, I knew you were going to ask me.

00:04:42.660 So back in 2020, um, it really started when, when I, when the riots started, when all the

00:04:50.400 riots started, that's really when I decided to start speaking up.

00:04:53.740 Um, you know, and I had a pretty decent influence.

00:04:55.840 I had a pretty decent platform.

00:04:56.880 I had, you know, probably 15,000 followers or something like that.

00:04:59.240 And, and, uh, I was pretty well known in my space and in the business space and sales

00:05:03.060 space, but, um, you know, nothing like today.

00:05:06.520 And, and what it came down to was I saw it for what it was, man.

00:05:10.540 Like it, when I, when I saw the, the simultaneous, you know, riots going on and all these major

00:05:17.580 cities and everything, and everybody just consuming the mainstream media and saying, Oh my gosh,

00:05:22.200 how is this possible?

00:05:22.860 It's like, well, dude, I ran events for a really long time.

00:05:26.820 So aside from my sales career, I actually used to run college age events for, for a

00:05:30.900 really, really long time.

00:05:31.920 And we pack, you know, we'd pack massive buildings with like 4,000 kids in a college

00:05:36.760 town, right?

00:05:38.040 Organizing an event like that was a nightmare.

00:05:41.800 I mean, the amount of things that it takes to organize an event like that and the, and the

00:05:46.260 time that it takes, I mean, we would start planning that event, marketing it, um, putting

00:05:50.380 everything together literally four or five months in advance.

00:05:52.860 Right.

00:05:53.340 And so when I see all of this happening at the exact same time, I'm like, dude, there's

00:05:59.160 no way that this isn't orchestrated at some level and, and in some way.

00:06:04.220 And maybe, is there, is there an element of, of social contagion with that though?

00:06:09.500 I mean, sure.

00:06:10.320 Somebody has got to initiate things like this, but then some ideas just tend to catch on like

00:06:16.860 wildfire and people participate.

00:06:18.720 And I think a lot of the times they don't even know why they're participating.

00:06:22.860 For sure.

00:06:23.640 And I think there was definitely an element of that.

00:06:25.480 Um, no, no doubt.

00:06:26.920 I think the truth is always in the middle.

00:06:28.840 That's what I like to say to people, right?

00:06:30.060 When you swing too far to one side or the other, you just, you get off course, but the

00:06:33.240 truth is always in the middle.

00:06:34.100 And to me, it was like, it was a little bit of everything.

00:06:36.180 But when I started to see, you know, the videos of the bricks being stacked in front of buildings

00:06:41.140 and, and all this, like all the things that didn't make a whole lot of sense.

00:06:44.900 Right.

00:06:45.420 I just saw it for what it was.

00:06:47.000 And I'm like, this is going to cause a massive divide in this country.

00:06:50.940 And this is the beginning of how they divide us.

00:06:53.940 This is the beginning, whether, you know, if you want to talk about two sides, whether

00:06:57.400 it was orchestrated to, on purpose to divide us, which to be honest, that's what I believe.

00:07:01.800 But there is that side of like, okay, it was just, it just happened.

00:07:05.000 And then the people who are continually pushing that agenda to divide us just took advantage

00:07:09.420 of a situation, the possibility as well.

00:07:11.660 Right.

00:07:11.840 But either way, I was like, guys, what they're showing us on the news and what you know about

00:07:17.900 this government, according to movies and everything else is so far from the, from the actual truth.

00:07:23.700 And, and this is all this is, is, is meant to divide us and create this insane, like ideology

00:07:30.940 in this country that if you're a different color than I am, or if you believe differently

00:07:35.120 than I do, or if you're a different religion or whatever, that we just can't exist together.

00:07:40.840 And, um, it was just crazy to me, dude.

00:07:43.600 And I think a big part of it also had to do with the fact that I'd become a father.

00:07:46.940 Um, this is right after I had my boy and it was just different, man.

00:07:51.020 Like, you know, I always, I I've thought about this a few times.

00:07:54.260 Like if it was just me, if I hadn't been a father, would I have said anything like what,

00:07:59.060 or would I have just kind of kept my head down?

00:08:00.460 Because the truth is people closest to me knew, you know, that Ian was a closet conspiracy

00:08:06.360 theorist, whatever you want to call it.

00:08:07.440 Right.

00:08:07.560 Like I always dove into that stuff.

00:08:08.800 That was always like, it was always just something that entertaining to me.

00:08:11.140 Right.

00:08:11.580 So people closest to me knew that, but the, the world didn't know that. 1.00

00:08:15.760 And when I decided to blow the lid off that, I mean, even my wife was like, you're an idiot. 1.00

00:08:20.360 Like you've been building this platform with what you have right now for so long and you've 1.00

00:08:25.460 worked so hard and now you're just going to burn it to the ground.

00:08:27.180 And I was like, I just, I can't stay silent.

00:08:28.820 Like, I know what's going on.

00:08:30.380 I see this for what it is.

00:08:32.200 And I know what's coming after this.

00:08:34.280 If we continue down this path.

00:08:35.720 And I was like, I can't stay silent.

00:08:36.920 And so I just, sure enough, I turned my phone around and I started talking.

00:08:39.120 And, um, what I realized was far more people than I ever imagined, um, had no idea.

00:08:49.360 They, they had no clue about any of this stuff, about any of the, you know, you call it now

00:08:55.960 it's called conspiracy theories, but you know, there's that, there's that cliche meme going

00:09:00.580 around right now that we're running out of them because they keep coming true.

00:09:02.800 Right.

00:09:03.060 But right.

00:09:03.860 Right.

00:09:04.140 It's more of a prediction at this point than it is conspiracy theory.

00:09:07.400 Yeah.

00:09:07.800 But dude, it blew my mind.

00:09:09.120 How many people had no idea about like any of that stuff?

00:09:11.640 Like everybody just had their heads in the sand.

00:09:13.640 And the other thing that was really shocking to me was even though I fully expected to burn

00:09:18.380 my platform to the ground, it was the exact opposite.

00:09:21.020 It actually flooded.

00:09:22.320 I mean, hundreds and hundreds of DMS and tens of thousands of people in less than a week.

00:09:28.540 And everybody was like, you know, why is this happening?

00:09:32.140 Tell us more about this, et cetera, et cetera.

00:09:33.800 And so, you know, I, I basically started to, um, share truth as much as I could, or, or share

00:09:42.440 like what I saw and what I, what I believed was really happening.

00:09:45.900 And, um, I started creating these little highlight movies on my, on my Instagram.

00:09:50.060 I started like, like full stories where it got to the point where people would literally

00:09:55.320 have like date night and they would call it, I winster night.

00:09:58.840 And they would watch these stories all the way through and, um, and then share them like

00:10:04.020 crazy.

00:10:04.380 Right.

00:10:04.820 Um, and so that's kind of how things started.

00:10:08.120 Like I just, I started speaking up about the divide that I saw happening in the country

00:10:12.340 and the inconsistencies that I saw.

00:10:14.560 And I tried to bring awareness really.

00:10:16.680 That's that's, I mean, like a lot of other people, honestly, in my, in my same shoes,

00:10:20.020 there's a lot of people like me right now that did the exact same thing.

00:10:22.840 We just felt the need to raise awareness of what was really happening and try our best to

00:10:27.940 create unity rather than divide.

00:10:30.160 That was being pushed so hard.

00:10:32.340 Yeah.

00:10:32.520 Um, you, you say, you say, uh, they, you know, you said that is they are trying to divide us

00:10:38.620 when you say they, I mean, that's a, that's a really, that's a really broad accusation.

00:10:45.460 And I don't entirely disagree, but I think we need to really get to the root of who they

00:10:50.640 is because that's always kind of just left in the dark.

00:10:54.440 And that's why there's not a whole lot of credibility because you hear people are like,

00:10:59.400 yeah, they, they're trying to divide us who like, like, tell us who exactly is trying

00:11:04.220 to divide us.

00:11:05.020 And then at least we can get to the root of that issue.

00:11:08.920 Yeah.

00:11:09.360 I, you know, I'm glad you said that because the truth is I find myself saying that a lot.

00:11:13.440 Um, and while I do believe that there is a small group, probably let's say this way,

00:11:19.500 let's put it this way.

00:11:20.680 I believe, um, and I've shared this multiple times, but never on your platform.

00:11:24.280 So I think a lot of people will benefit from hearing this.

00:11:26.080 I believe that, um, you know, as cliche as it is, we are truly in a battle of good and

00:11:31.120 evil right now.

00:11:31.660 I think, I think that is, I think that is the truth.

00:11:34.860 And I think, I think that when it comes to, if you were to, if you were to look at those

00:11:39.520 sides, if you were to look at the good and the evil, right, evil is not, you don't negotiate

00:11:43.000 with evil.

00:11:43.380 Like it's just evil.

00:11:44.400 That's it.

00:11:44.960 And, and you stomp it out and you do the exact opposite and you go the opposite direction,

00:11:49.360 period.

00:11:49.760 That's what you do with evil.

00:11:50.800 Right.

00:11:51.280 But the good, if you consider the good, the good is full of every type of person from 0.87

00:11:56.820 every walk of life, every religion, every sex, every freaking demographic, every race, 0.91

00:12:02.120 every color. 0.99

00:12:03.160 Right.

00:12:03.780 But the one thing that I believe divides us when it comes to the good and the reason why

00:12:10.640 we can't seem to come together to fight the evil is awareness of the evil and what the

00:12:14.580 evil actually is and what its agenda is.

00:12:16.680 Right.

00:12:17.000 And, and the thing is, once people figure that out, no matter where they stand, no

00:12:21.200 matter what side of the line they stand on, all of a sudden it's like, oh, so you're not

00:12:25.220 my enemy.

00:12:25.880 That's the enemy.

00:12:27.220 And now we need to come together to fight that enemy.

00:12:30.160 And so, you know, um, this kind of goes into why I started everything that I did.

00:12:35.420 It just, it got to a point where I realized that that's, that that's what was happening.

00:12:39.600 And so when I say they, I think most of the time what I'm referring to is, is the evil

00:12:43.780 influence that exists in this world and whether that evil influence is in individuals because

00:12:48.380 they've been consumed by it or organizations or the media or, you know, the corporations

00:12:54.140 and industries that stand to gain from other, other people's losses or, you know, the, the,

00:12:59.780 uh, the tragedies that happen.

00:13:01.820 I think that's what I refer to when I say they, because I don't think you really can't.

00:13:06.520 I mean, I, I think some people have their idea of who they might be like actual names

00:13:11.160 and actual people, but it's obviously not productive and not constructive to name people

00:13:15.920 because no one really knows at the end of the day.

00:13:18.460 Right.

00:13:18.820 So I think they, when I say that, I just think they refers to the evil and, and specifically

00:13:24.940 the individuals that are consumed with that evil because of, you know, the greed and the

00:13:29.820 need for money and power.

00:13:31.340 And I always say this too, Ryan, it's like, dude, people like that, that are so driven

00:13:36.680 to be powerful and to have a lot of money.

00:13:39.520 They're not the kind of people that jump that, that, that climb up the ladder and decide,

00:13:43.180 well, you know what?

00:13:43.600 I'm going to go down one rung.

00:13:44.880 They're the kind of people that are like, where's the next ladder?

00:13:47.440 How do I keep going up?

00:13:48.560 And the thing is, once you have all the money and all the power and, and in the world, there's

00:13:53.720 only one thing left, brother.

00:13:54.700 And that's control.

00:13:55.800 There's only one thing left that can satisfy that amount of greed.

00:13:59.560 And that amount of, you know, um, desire, which is I have the money, I have the power.

00:14:05.440 What can I control?

00:14:06.500 Right.

00:14:07.580 And, um, I think that is what we were faced with.

00:14:10.500 I think, I think the influence of evil, whether you're Christian and you believe in the devil 1.00

00:14:15.160 or you just believe in evil energy or whatever it is, I think that is consuming us as a society.

00:14:20.860 And there are, you know, there are groups of people, um, and small ones, cause I believe

00:14:25.860 secrets are kept in small circles, unless you're talking about Santa Claus, but those groups,

00:14:30.380 right?

00:14:31.240 Those people, I believe are, are out to control.

00:14:35.020 And, um, in order to control, you need to divide, you need to divide and you need to

00:14:39.700 weaken and you need to create dependency.

00:14:41.700 And I think that's what we're seeing in the country right now, especially in our country.

00:14:45.120 Um, I, I, I think I tend to agree with the evil nature of it.

00:14:49.100 You know, the, the one thing I see is that evil.

00:14:51.900 And I, and when I say evil, I'm talking about satanic evil, uh, disguises itself in.

00:14:58.360 Yeah.

00:14:58.720 I mean, let's not beat around the bush.

00:14:59.980 You know, everybody's like, Oh, evil. 0.94

00:15:01.180 What the hell are you talking about? 0.72

00:15:02.740 Like, and I'm not saying that directing that at you. 0.96

00:15:06.200 I just wish, and I'm trying to be more this way is let's stop beating around the bush and

00:15:12.620 let's actually explain what we believe.

00:15:15.720 Like let's stand on something, even if people think we're crazy.

00:15:19.320 So I'll go ahead and say it's satanic evil, but the way that it manifests itself is very

00:15:27.900 sneaky.

00:15:28.540 And, and, and, and, and, and, and that, that, that doesn't seem satanic.

00:15:44.400 It's not witches and warlocks doing secret blood rituals.

00:15:49.380 It's corruption.

00:15:51.020 It's, it's being clever.

00:15:53.060 It's people seeking power through opportunity. 1.00

00:15:55.080 And then I also believe there's a large contingent of useful idiots who don't really believe 0.99

00:16:04.980 necessarily that they're trying to control and all of this sort of thing, but they're 0.99

00:16:08.720 being guided and instructed in ways that are perpetuating some overreach of power and

00:16:19.640 authority in our, in our government.

00:16:23.280 Yeah.

00:16:23.360 I, I think, you know, going along with what you said, um, this is actually something I've

00:16:28.600 talked about recently is, and it's, I, it's, it's something I don't think a lot of people

00:16:32.380 consider.

00:16:33.220 If you consider the ultimate, um, you know, let's just call it for what it is.

00:16:38.280 What is the ultimate agenda of the devil, right?

00:16:40.720 The ultimate agenda of the devil is to take away free agency.

00:16:43.800 It's to literally buying people to him and to his desires and to his passions, because

00:16:49.540 that's what he is.

00:16:50.420 He's literally bound to his own passions and his own desires.

00:16:52.880 He can never progress.

00:16:53.900 And so the thing he wants the most is to make it so that people can't progress.

00:16:58.220 And the way that you make it so people can't progress is you take away their freedom of

00:17:01.480 choice.

00:17:01.820 And what's so interesting, Ryan, is if you look at how things are, if you look at the

00:17:06.600 direction of where things are going right now, and if you look at, you know, the different,

00:17:10.700 um, ideologies that are starting to, to become more prevalent in society, it seems to me, at

00:17:17.780 least like not only is freedom of choice being attacked, but the desire to have the freedom

00:17:24.700 of choice is, is being attacked.

00:17:26.960 Like people literally are begging for other people to make decisions for them to, to like,

00:17:33.780 everybody wants it to be done for them.

00:17:35.420 And nobody wants to actually do the work themselves.

00:17:37.160 Nobody wants to have the ability to make the choice to do the work or to, or to just, you

00:17:43.100 know, to act right.

00:17:44.500 Everybody just wants to be acted upon.

00:17:46.300 And it's seen, I shouldn't say everybody, that's a very blanket statement, but a large

00:17:50.420 majority, I would say of society is what I've, what I've, uh, observed.

00:17:55.320 And it's interesting to me because like I said, when you think about the agenda of the devil,

00:17:59.980 taking away the ability for mankind to, you know, the children of God to make a choice.

00:18:06.620 Well, that disrupts God's plan, which is what I believe is allow his children to make choices

00:18:14.940 and, and, you know, live good lives and try their best to be Christ-like.

00:18:20.820 And, and, uh, that I believe is the plan of God, right?

00:18:25.580 But his children can't progress if they can't make choices.

00:18:29.460 And so when I look at those two, uh, dynamics, it just, it makes sense to me that that's what

00:18:35.560 the devil would be, or that's what the evil influence would be attacking the hardest, even

00:18:39.280 though it's such a subtle thing.

00:18:41.640 Like most people think of, it has to be right.

00:18:44.160 But look at what's happening.

00:18:47.040 Apathy, lack of accountability, um, you know, work ethic, all of these things are, are what

00:18:54.840 they're the building blocks of success.

00:18:57.400 They're the building blocks of progression and progression is the ultimate goal for God's

00:19:02.780 children.

00:19:03.560 That that's at least what I believe we cannot progress if we don't have the ability or if

00:19:08.300 we don't want the ability to choose to progress.

00:19:11.700 And that at the end of the day is slavery, which is exactly what I believe the devil wants.

00:19:19.320 He wants us to be slaves to our own sins and our own decisions and our, and our own apathy,

00:19:26.160 quite, quite frankly.

00:19:27.720 Um, yeah.

00:19:28.300 And I think, you know, the other let's, so there is that spiritual component and that's

00:19:32.620 what I, I believe too, but let's say there's a guy who's listening and there are plenty who

00:19:37.060 don't believe in God and don't come from the spiritual perspective.

00:19:40.360 Yes.

00:19:40.880 We don't need to be sensitive to that.

00:19:42.820 We don't need to be sensitive to it.

00:19:44.240 We just need to be aware of it.

00:19:45.420 Right.

00:19:45.780 It's just being better word because again, sensitivity, like I don't need to be sensitive

00:19:50.420 to the fact that you believe something different than I do.

00:19:52.540 I need to be aware of it so I can have a conversation with you.

00:19:55.280 And here, here's one thing that I, that I'm aware of, or at least I would, I would think

00:20:00.680 is that somebody who is non-religious, non-spiritual, let's say, doesn't believe in God, you don't

00:20:06.720 have to believe in God to know that the path that we tend to gravitate towards is not best

00:20:12.880 for humanity and humankind at large.

00:20:15.780 You can look at the, the incredibly horrific atrocities against millions and millions of

00:20:22.300 people perpetuated by people who are seeking control, power and power, money.

00:20:28.660 You don't have to be religious to see that.

00:20:33.060 And, and, and so I hope wherever you stand on the, on the spiritual aisle of things, you

00:20:38.060 can see that this is not, this is not a good path to go, but it is interesting that when

00:20:45.360 you talk about taking away freedom, it's usually cloaked as giving more freedom.

00:20:49.820 And I can't think of a better place than transgenderism because you have, you have these, 1.00

00:20:57.260 these people who are perpetuating these ideas that are damaging and destructive physically, 0.57

00:21:02.760 clearly you're mutilating humans.

00:21:04.700 Physically, mentally, emotionally.

00:21:06.300 Emotionally.

00:21:07.040 Yeah.

00:21:07.580 It's, it's in all ways it's destructive to these people and they're saying, well, we're

00:21:11.520 giving more choice, more choice, more choice.

00:21:13.140 And yet when you speak out against it or you say, I don't agree with that.

00:21:17.700 Yeah.

00:21:18.740 Then you are dehumanized, you are, yeah, exactly.

00:21:23.680 And you're, you're, you're attacked and you're doxxed and they go after sources of income

00:21:28.960 and they go after family even, and it becomes a horrible situation.

00:21:32.700 So you can't say on one hand, we're inclusive and we believe in option and choice.

00:21:37.360 But if you don't believe differently than, or if you believe differently than us, then that,

00:21:41.160 except for that, except for that, we don't believe in that.

00:21:43.520 You know, it's kind of an interesting thing.

00:21:44.780 Yeah, I, I actually, uh, this is something I actually talked about a couple of days ago.

00:21:49.460 Um, I, I posted a video, um, and I don't know how to pronounce this guy's last name.

00:21:55.380 I'm not even going to try, but the dude who is in charge of transportation, right?

00:21:59.420 The second judge that guy.

00:22:01.620 Yep.

00:22:02.080 And I didn't want to try and attempt it, but anyway, he, uh, he, they, they were talking

00:22:09.260 about this Ohio disaster and they were asking him a bunch of questions and everything.

00:22:12.500 And of course, the one thing that he was focused on was, well, not the one thing, but the main

00:22:16.480 things that it seemed like he was focused on was the inequality and the racism.

00:22:19.520 And then, you know, all these other things.

00:22:21.420 And so I caught a video, um, of Matt Walsh talking about, uh, how he was elected to be

00:22:29.960 in that position simply because he's a homosexual and how that's a very well-known fact. 0.55

00:22:35.420 Um, and whether you like Matt Walsh or not, he made some really good points and it just

00:22:40.060 got me thinking.

00:22:40.560 It's like, look, participation trophies have consequences.

00:22:45.540 Okay.

00:22:45.860 And there's no, there's no winners.

00:22:47.280 There's only losers.

00:22:48.740 And I posted this.

00:22:50.100 And of course I had a few people, cause you know, I believe it or not, I actually don't

00:22:53.420 have just a straight up echo chamber with mine.

00:22:55.080 I have, I have people that still follow me and enjoy to have, you know, conversations

00:22:58.900 about difference of opinion.

00:23:00.100 But anyway, I had some people reach out and they were like, well, so are you, are you

00:23:03.760 saying, you know, they were like, are you attacking homosexuality and no, you know, in,

00:23:07.740 in different ways.

00:23:08.360 And I was like, I made a video and I was like, no, like I, I am not here to judge people or

00:23:13.620 to tell them how to live their life.

00:23:15.000 The truth is there's only one, one being that can ever make that call and actually judge

00:23:20.460 us.

00:23:20.660 And we will be judged, but it's not my place to do that.

00:23:23.600 Nor will I ever.

00:23:24.860 And if you know, you're free to live your life, how you want to, as long as you're not causing

00:23:29.660 harm to anybody.

00:23:30.380 And as long as you're not going after the kids, because at the end of the day, that's

00:23:33.200 what it comes down to leave the freaking kids out of it.

00:23:35.180 But if you're an adult and you want to do whatever you want to do, if you want to call 0.98

00:23:38.580 yourself a unicorn on Wednesday and a freaking leopard on Tuesday, I could care less because 0.73

00:23:43.300 that's your freedom.

00:23:44.160 And just like, just like I have to respect your freedom to do that.

00:23:48.240 You have, then I asked that you respect my freedom to want to carry a gun, right.

00:23:52.120 Or believe in God or, or, or whatever freedom is freedom.

00:23:56.400 And I think what happens is people get off the tracks because they, they think that they

00:24:01.300 can pick and choose how people use their own freedom.

00:24:03.980 And, and something that I've said before is freedom doesn't end where religion begins,

00:24:08.200 even though it's something that I believe very, very strongly, right.

00:24:12.000 People still have the freedom to make choices.

00:24:14.300 That's again, that's the whole point.

00:24:16.220 If they can't make choices, they can't make mistakes.

00:24:18.420 They can't have success.

00:24:19.460 They can't progress.

00:24:20.640 They can't learn.

00:24:21.640 Um, and it's not our place to impede that.

00:24:23.960 And I think this is where, this is where a lot of people, I feel like, um, this is where,

00:24:29.600 this is the reason why I think a lot of people enjoy following me is because I try to see

00:24:33.540 both sides and it's like both sides of the aisle.

00:24:36.020 If you're talking about the right, the left, conservative, Republican, liberal, Democrat,

00:24:39.100 et cetera, et cetera.

00:24:40.280 Everybody has to be right.

00:24:42.500 And when it comes to their freedoms or their choices, that's the right freedom, but this is

00:24:47.780 not the right freedom.

00:24:48.560 And it's like, no, that's not how it works.

00:24:50.640 Right.

00:24:51.120 Once again, if you're not doing harm to somebody like, like hurting someone, and if you're

00:24:56.200 not going after the kids, right.

00:24:59.080 If you're an adult and you want to, you want to do those things, like who are we to tell

00:25:03.460 them they can't.

00:25:04.960 And, um, I think that's a really, really, I think it is important that, and here's, here's

00:25:11.740 how I look, there still is right and wrong, you know, now, now somebody has the freedom

00:25:15.820 to make choices and they have the freedom to be wrong.

00:25:18.220 You know, I, I tend to believe that my perspective is right because I try to be somewhat educated

00:25:24.160 on it.

00:25:24.480 I try to take my, my experiences.

00:25:26.100 I realize it's not truth with a capital T or even this, my truth nonsense.

00:25:31.240 It's my perception.

00:25:32.780 It's my opinion.

00:25:33.600 And I think it's right.

00:25:34.640 If I didn't think it was right, I'd have a different opinion.

00:25:37.140 Right.

00:25:37.500 But I do believe there's a wrong way of living and, and I fall into that at times and I do

00:25:42.360 believe there's a right way, but you do, yes, have the freedom generally, not, not in all

00:25:46.240 cases, but generally have the freedom to decide, even if it is incorrect.

00:25:50.100 Right.

00:25:50.540 And that's, and I would agree with that a hundred percent.

00:25:52.600 And I just, I think this is just one of the examples of the issues that we have as a country.

00:25:57.280 I mean, we are literally like, we're, we're tearing ourselves apart from the inside and

00:26:01.940 our, our enemies are winning without firing a single shot because we can't get over the

00:26:05.840 fact that, Hey, you want to live your life like that?

00:26:08.700 Cool.

00:26:09.300 I want to live my life like this.

00:26:10.820 Cool.

00:26:11.300 We can still be friends.

00:26:12.220 We can still communicate.

00:26:13.080 We can still have a, like we can, we can still exist together.

00:26:17.340 Right.

00:26:17.720 But at the end of the day, there's such a strong agenda right now to create this idea that,

00:26:24.380 that that's not okay and that you're wrong and I'm right.

00:26:28.500 And this is the way it has to be.

00:26:30.420 And, you know, I think another thing that a lot of people forget is dude, this country

00:26:34.400 was founded on compromise.

00:26:36.760 Like the reason why we have the bill of rights and the freaking constitution is because a

00:26:40.980 bunch of dudes that quite frankly, didn't agree on a whole lot.

00:26:43.360 If you really want to dig into the truth of the founding fathers, they didn't agree on

00:26:46.920 a whole lot, but they came together and they said, we do agree on one thing.

00:26:49.940 And that is we don't want to be ruled.

00:26:51.280 We want to be free. 0.96

00:26:52.020 And so we have to get our crap together and figure out a way to, to compromise and create 0.93

00:26:57.780 a system where we can, where we can make this happen.

00:27:00.600 And that's where I think that things are breaking down now is, and I wrote this down before you

00:27:05.460 said that, cause I wanted to touch on this and you, and you walked right into it, which

00:27:08.320 was awesome.

00:27:08.760 Cause you, cause I think you're hitting on this next point I wanted to address, which

00:27:11.980 is that in order to work together, we need to have some sort of common morals principles.

00:27:18.120 And I would even say honor code, uh, we, we might see it differently.

00:27:24.000 We might come about it differently, but if at the end of the day, we don't believe in

00:27:27.920 the same morals principles and code of honor, I mean, what more are we going to agree upon?

00:27:32.480 And that's why, you know, we, we, we saw as far as this country was, was founded, why we've

00:27:38.320 seen a lot of the, the, the war that we have is because the morals were so there.

00:27:45.800 It was so vast between the way that each side viewed, uh, their, their morals and their

00:27:51.400 principles that it was inevitably be bound to happen, which is a breakup, whether it's

00:27:55.560 the civil war or the revolutionary war.

00:27:58.180 And, and I think what's happening now is look, yeah, we can get along for sure.

00:28:03.980 And, and we can work to compromise, but if there's some fundamental differences of values

00:28:10.120 and principles and a code of honor, I'm not sure there's much getting along if you get

00:28:15.280 to the root of it and it's that vast.

00:28:17.840 So I think, and I, I would agree, but I think that it also comes down to the reason why, like,

00:28:23.400 for example, let's just talk about, let's talk about the transgender issue, right?

00:28:26.580 At the end of the day, if you knew somebody who was transgender and they were a super kind

00:28:32.880 human being, and let's say they're, you're a friend, they're a friend of yours, right?

00:28:36.200 Are you going to constantly look at them differently just because of the way they're choosing to

00:28:39.960 live their life?

00:28:40.540 Probably not.

00:28:41.220 Most people are probably not going to, despite what the media may say, or despite what, you

00:28:45.280 know, what's being pushed right now.

00:28:46.620 And I think that's the point is, you know, you hear people say all the time, go out your front

00:28:50.620 door and talk to your neighbor and you'll find out that everything they say on the news

00:28:53.100 is a lie.

00:28:53.600 And it's like, there's, there's truth to that.

00:28:55.860 And it's, and, and my thing is, it's, it's not so much that, I guess this is my opinion.

00:29:02.400 It's not so much that, um, we don't all have the same morals as much as it is.

00:29:08.480 There's a clear agenda that is being shoved down our throats that we need to change our

00:29:13.540 morals, that we need to change the way that we believe that we need to change our, our code

00:29:17.600 of conduct or our code of, or, you know, our, our code of honor or whatever.

00:29:21.140 Um, and I think that's the biggest issue.

00:29:23.700 And it's like, if you look at how things are with that transgender, LGBTQ agenda, right?

00:29:30.340 Let's say the roles are reversed, right?

00:29:32.480 Let's say that those people who look at something like, for example, toxic masculinity, right?

00:29:37.300 Get it, being strong, living, you know, eating healthy, working out, being a good father,

00:29:43.540 traditional family values, all of that stuff.

00:29:45.580 They, I would say that a lot of the people in that camp look at that as the exact way

00:29:51.100 that we would look at things they're doing.

00:29:53.080 Right.

00:29:53.260 I would say that's kind of, that's probably a safe assumption.

00:29:56.260 What if that was being shoved down their throats?

00:29:58.300 What if every time they got on Netflix, it was nothing but muscles and, and father and

00:30:03.220 son and healthy eating. 0.54

00:30:04.360 And which, by the way, this is absolutely asinine that this is the conversation right now, that

00:30:08.500 this is a bad thing.

00:30:09.440 But I was going to say, I think that's actually what we should be doing.

00:30:13.100 We should, we actually should be pushing that to people and helping them understand that

00:30:17.640 traditional values is a better way of living for yourself and other people.

00:30:21.680 And I agree a hundred percent, obviously.

00:30:24.100 But my thing is like, if you were, if that was the case, right, what all of those people,

00:30:28.080 I feel like would be doing the exact same thing.

00:30:30.440 And it's the same rat wheel that we're in with every single issue that seems to exist in

00:30:34.480 this country.

00:30:35.160 And so my whole thing is like, is there a way to compromise?

00:30:38.820 Is there a way to, because, because again, if you, if you consider what I said in the

00:30:42.800 beginning about good and evil, right, I truly believe that aside from, you know, things

00:30:48.480 like sexualizing children, aside, aside from things like mutilating children, killing unborn

00:30:55.580 children, I think other than those things, right, when it comes to just lifestyle choices

00:31:00.220 that I may not, that I may not agree with, it doesn't make that person a bad person.

00:31:05.240 It still puts them in the good camp.

00:31:08.200 But I think the biggest difference or the one thing that still divides us is the awareness

00:31:12.900 of what really is evil and, and what that true agenda is, because that, that agenda is

00:31:19.700 against all of us.

00:31:20.800 It's not just against some of us, it's against all of us.

00:31:23.440 And I think, like you said, there's a, you know, there's a, there's kind of a veil that's

00:31:31.720 pulled over people's eyes right now where they can't see it because it's so subtle and

00:31:35.720 it's so slow.

00:31:36.900 Um, and it just, it, it kind of creeps up, right?

00:31:39.920 Slowly, they put it into the media, slowly, they put it into mainstream, um, the like, like

00:31:45.680 just nightly TV.

00:31:47.100 I mean, you literally watch nightly TV and you have, you have women that are, that are

00:31:51.340 basically stripping on a stage and there's probably four or five-year-olds watching this

00:31:55.400 program.

00:31:55.920 Like the other night when we were watching the Superbowl, like my, my kids were in the

00:32:00.240 room and, and this performance is on and I'm like, they're humping the air.

00:32:04.580 Like, I don't want my kids to see this, but we've gotten to a place as society where not

00:32:08.620 only has it become acceptable, it's, it's become like the norm.

00:32:13.880 Right.

00:32:14.980 And that's, I think that's the evil that I'm talking about.

00:32:17.860 I think that's how you and I are on the same page as far as there is a clear evil and it

00:32:22.260 is very apparent, but I think some people just aren't aware of it either because they

00:32:25.820 don't, they don't want to believe that that's the truth or they're just so far down the road

00:32:30.880 at this point that they can't see the difference between good and evil.

00:32:34.360 Good is evil and evil is good.

00:32:35.880 Or they're just too nice and they're too much of pacifist.

00:32:39.120 I mean, I think this is where compromise actually is a detriment.

00:32:44.780 You know, there's some things that I'm not willing to compromise on and I'll be vocal

00:32:49.240 about it.

00:32:49.860 And the problem is, I think one of the problems is that too many men are willing to compromise

00:32:55.580 and they are willing to stay silent and they are willing to let things slide and let things

00:33:01.820 go.

00:33:02.100 Cause it's quote unquote, not that big a deal.

00:33:04.400 And can you imagine if millions of men decided, no, you know what?

00:33:10.540 This is the line right here.

00:33:13.080 This is the line and you can walk up to it.

00:33:16.240 You can bump up against it.

00:33:17.660 You can rub on it.

00:33:18.520 But the minute you go over that line is where I get involved and there's consequences for

00:33:24.580 actions and there's not enough strong, moral, capable, bold, successful, independent men

00:33:30.860 like yourself.

00:33:32.500 I would consider you one who's doing it.

00:33:34.700 You know, you're actually putting your money where your mouth is.

00:33:36.660 I try to be like that.

00:33:38.200 There's that needs to happen more enough with the compromise enough with the letting things

00:33:43.620 go.

00:33:44.040 And let's start making a stand and actually standing up against this with courage, strength

00:33:48.540 and conviction.

00:33:50.200 Yeah.

00:33:51.160 I, yeah, no, it's well said.

00:33:53.420 I think, um, I think you're seeing more of that.

00:33:56.680 I do agree with you that not enough are, um, you know, the amount, the amount of, of blue

00:34:02.920 checks in my, in my views and in my likes and engagement that just never say a word, but

00:34:08.160 just continue to consume the content.

00:34:09.600 And, and, you know, they'll send a, they'll send a fist bump.

00:34:12.620 Thanks so much for doing this.

00:34:13.660 It's like, bro, you have, they'll send a private message.

00:34:15.980 Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.

00:34:16.960 It's a DM.

00:34:17.500 It's a private message.

00:34:18.160 And they have, you know, anywhere from 800,000 to 2 million.

00:34:21.760 And, and it's like, every time I get that, I'm like, restrict, I don't even want to talk

00:34:26.460 to you.

00:34:27.260 Like, I mean, what do these people worship at this point?

00:34:30.500 You know, do they worship and they idolize their money and their, their notoriety and

00:34:34.940 their fame and their accolades, or do they honor truth and righteousness and doing the

00:34:42.260 right thing and having courage?

00:34:45.580 Unfortunately, there's not a lot of people who do.

00:34:47.080 It seems like, no, I think, I think, uh, it's, it's definitely fear.

00:34:52.660 Um, these people, especially the people that I just mentioned, like these people with great

00:34:57.040 influence that, that don't want to say anything.

00:34:58.800 The reason why is because they obviously fear to lose their endorsements or their position

00:35:03.080 or whatever.

00:35:03.520 And it's like, well, people don't understand.

00:35:04.900 And I think this is what I've been saying from the beginning.

00:35:06.900 And the main reason why I decided to start speaking up in the first place is like, if you

00:35:10.660 don't speak up, you're going to lose it anyway.

00:35:13.160 If you don't, if you don't start raising awareness of this stuff, it's not going to matter.

00:35:17.360 It's literally not going to matter because eventually it's going to be ripped from your

00:35:20.400 hands and everything that you're fighting so hard to keep is going to be taken from

00:35:24.420 you.

00:35:25.140 And, and that is something that I think a lot of people, even during this whole pandemic

00:35:29.920 thing, like all the people that were, that were trying to raise awareness of what was

00:35:33.280 going on.

00:35:34.080 They were, you know, I, I can't tell you how many times I've been called a racist or a

00:35:37.920 bigot in the last two years. 0.96

00:35:38.780 And I'm like, bro, I am the farthest from a freaking racist. 0.80

00:35:42.500 Like I, but anyway, the point is, I think, I think it's this people don't understand that

00:35:49.740 the ones that are speaking up and the ones that are actually standing up, it's not just

00:35:53.020 for us.

00:35:53.600 Like, sure.

00:35:54.760 It's for me and my kids.

00:35:55.700 Definitely.

00:35:56.040 Cause I want my kids to live in a safe world and I want them to live in a world where they

00:35:59.060 don't have to question whether or not they're a boy or a girl when they're four years old.

00:36:02.080 You know, and I, I want my, my, my kids to feel like, you know, like, like they're safe.

00:36:08.160 And, um, that's obviously the biggest reason that I do what I do.

00:36:12.300 But at the end of the day too, it's also because, you know, I truly care about people.

00:36:16.200 Like I, I want our country to, to be a thriving and successful and amazing country that offers

00:36:25.080 opportunity for every single one of us.

00:36:27.760 And, and that's why, you know, that's why America is, is what it is.

00:36:32.340 And I, you know, I always get the, I always get asked the question, like, did you serve?

00:36:35.080 And it's no, I didn't.

00:36:36.360 I'm not, I've never been in the military.

00:36:38.580 I have friends and family who are, but I've never personally served, but my conviction

00:36:43.340 actually comes from the time that I spent, um, I spent a little over two years in Nicaragua.

00:36:48.380 And let me tell you, man, um, that is what I believe gave me such a love and, and, and

00:36:56.440 gratitude for the country that we live in.

00:36:58.780 I mean, when you, when you wake up every single day on a dirt floor in a, in a sheet metal

00:37:04.760 house and you don't have a shower, but you have a 50 gallon barrel in the back that fills

00:37:09.280 with rainwater, a bowl and a giant piece of soap.

00:37:12.380 And you don't know whether or not you're going to have electricity for half the day, or you're

00:37:16.040 going to have running water for half the day.

00:37:17.700 It changes things.

00:37:18.980 And it makes you really start. 0.98

00:37:20.360 It makes you really start to think, damn, dude, I have it good. 0.95

00:37:24.140 And, and not only do I have a good, but, um, I need to take advantage of how good I have 0.97

00:37:30.400 it and, and not only create opportunity for me and my family, but do it for as many people

00:37:34.320 as possible.

00:37:35.760 Um, and there's not enough people that have suffered or struggled that way.

00:37:40.040 No, that, that is, that is the key.

00:37:42.420 I think that is the biggest key because you have all these people that are constantly complaining

00:37:46.440 about the way things are, you know, like the, the, whether they're celebrities or just,

00:37:51.960 you know, people in general, younger people, whatever, they're constantly complaining.

00:37:55.320 Oh, this is so hard.

00:37:56.480 Like I have, I have to work for six hours and I'm making $20 an hour, like boo-hoo, right?

00:38:01.960 Poor me.

00:38:02.980 They don't have even the faintest clue what it would be like to be dropped into a third

00:38:08.700 world country for even four days.

00:38:10.420 And every single one of them would be in a ball, crying their eyes out, begging for someone

00:38:17.420 to come save them.

00:38:19.120 And, and you're right though, the reason why that it's so easy to be a victim, the reason

00:38:24.160 why it's so easy to be so apathetic.

00:38:25.840 And the reason why it's so easy to not be grateful for everything we have is because

00:38:29.820 they've never had it taken away from them.

00:38:31.680 They've never experienced what it's like to not have those things.

00:38:34.840 And I know, I know there's people in the country that have grown up in, in hard circumstances.

00:38:39.160 I'm one of them, you know, but let's be honest, guys, we don't live like a third world country.

00:38:45.220 We don't have the situation that some of these people have.

00:38:49.640 You know, we don't have, dude, I, I will never forget.

00:38:52.880 There was an experience one time when I was down there where we would, we would go eat

00:38:57.700 with families, right?

00:38:58.920 They would feed us while we were there.

00:39:00.720 I was a, I was a missionary by the way.

00:39:02.860 And they, we would.

00:39:03.880 With the LDS church.

00:39:05.300 Yep.

00:39:05.840 Yep.

00:39:06.100 Got it.

00:39:06.580 Okay.

00:39:06.800 And, and so I would go, or we would, we would go and eat with these families and they would

00:39:10.660 feed us.

00:39:11.020 Well, we went to this one family that, that offered to feed us that week.

00:39:15.320 And I'm not making this up their house.

00:39:17.780 They literally lived.

00:39:19.140 There was four trees and there was probably a hundred plastic shopping bags that were tied

00:39:25.160 together by the, by the handles.

00:39:27.340 And they were basically, that was their walls around the trees.

00:39:31.180 And then their family sat in there.

00:39:33.220 Shopping bag, like plastic shopping bags.

00:39:35.080 That was their wall.

00:39:35.780 They didn't have a roof.

00:39:36.420 It was just two, it was four trees and shopping bags.

00:39:39.840 And, and then they had a, like a Coleman camping stove and that's what they cooked on.

00:39:45.160 And that was in the middle of their dirt tree fort without a roof.

00:39:50.480 Right.

00:39:51.840 And when we got there, they were cooking two hard boiled eggs and that was their food.

00:39:57.680 Right.

00:39:57.860 And, uh, they had a family, it was a family of five, by the way.

00:40:03.160 So we sat down and they gave me and the guy I was with, they call them companions.

00:40:08.680 Um, they gave us an entire hard boiled egg, the entire thing.

00:40:13.100 And then they ate the other one between the five of them.

00:40:17.420 But the craziest thing was, uh, as we were talking, I realized that they had like left

00:40:23.480 like a, like a, like a third of it.

00:40:26.240 And they had like wrapped it up and put it on the side.

00:40:28.320 Um, and, um, later I found out when I asked my companion, cause he was more, you know,

00:40:34.480 well-versed in the country and everything.

00:40:35.620 I asked him, I said, what, why did they do that?

00:40:37.400 He said, well, that was the rest of their food for the week, the week, the week.

00:40:41.420 And it was, it was Wednesday.

00:40:43.740 Um, and dude, I'll never forget that.

00:40:46.760 I'll, I will never, as long as I live, forget that experience because those people were not

00:40:51.340 suffering.

00:40:52.180 I mean, they were suffering, but they weren't showing a sign of suffering.

00:40:55.440 They were so happy and they were so grateful.

00:40:58.380 They kept on saying, thank you.

00:40:59.840 Thank you.

00:41:00.200 Thank you.

00:41:00.520 Thank you.

00:41:00.820 And I'm like, what are you thinking?

00:41:01.940 Like, it just, it blew my mind.

00:41:04.580 Right.

00:41:04.720 And I, I, I will never forget it, man.

00:41:06.560 It's like, it makes me emotional every time because I'm just like, people have no clue how

00:41:11.680 we have it, man.

00:41:12.300 They, they don't have any idea what America actually provides and what opportunities we

00:41:18.760 have as Americans.

00:41:20.500 Um, and how hard we should all be fighting for that every time it is, it is questioned

00:41:25.660 or every single time it is challenged.

00:41:28.800 All right, man, let me take a step back from the conversation real quick.

00:41:31.720 We'll get back to it in a minute.

00:41:33.060 Uh, as you might guess, I'm not a fan of the term safe space, but I am a fan of creating

00:41:39.440 an environment where men are free to share some of their most closely held thoughts and

00:41:45.260 beliefs and even their weaknesses.

00:41:47.540 Because when men are free to share with other men who are on the same mission, what they

00:41:52.400 really struggle with, they finally give themselves the power to address what has been plaguing

00:41:58.060 and keeping them back for too long.

00:42:00.280 And that is exactly what the iron council is all about.

00:42:04.240 And when you band with us, you're going to tap into a powerful band of brothers that are

00:42:09.220 going to give you the grounds to share who you really are, what you truly struggle with,

00:42:14.020 and they're going to equip you with a power to finally do something about it.

00:42:18.920 Now guys, we're opening back up on March 15th.

00:42:21.560 So head to order a man.com slash iron council, order a man.com slash iron council. 0.62

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00:42:33.880 Do that right after the show for now.

00:42:35.780 Let's get back to it with the end.

00:42:38.120 Yeah, I think, I think, uh, one of the challenges is we've created this incredible abundance and

00:42:47.920 prosperity and that has its own challenges and threats and struggle.

00:42:56.140 And what it is, is that everybody has too much to lose.

00:43:00.700 You've got a house, you've probably got three or four cars for two drivers.

00:43:05.660 You, we, you know, we have food storage, like we're not saving half an egg for the rest of the

00:43:11.200 week.

00:43:11.500 We have pantries and basements full of water and food store.

00:43:16.220 I mean, just the level of abundance that we have, we don't want to sacrifice that.

00:43:21.720 And sometimes I think we believe that rocking the boat puts that at risk and it does, but

00:43:27.860 also, so does not rocking the boat and just letting things be the way they are.

00:43:33.480 Cause somebody is always going to be after what we have.

00:43:36.360 Yeah.

00:43:37.160 And I, and I also would just say, I think, um, I think one of the biggest responsibilities

00:43:43.380 that we have, and I say responsibility because I've, it's responsibility obligation, even

00:43:48.280 as Americans is to live.

00:43:52.800 The American dream is to live like Americans. 0.96

00:43:56.360 It's, it's to show the world what is possible with this kind of opportunity, because it inspires

00:44:01.360 others to build it and create it.

00:44:03.040 And every single one of us should be doing everything we possibly can to be that example,

00:44:08.560 to be that beacon, to be that lighthouse.

00:44:11.380 And there's too many people that are willing to not only allow other people to do that,

00:44:15.720 but they just, they don't, they're just, it's, it's, there's so much apathy to, to greatness

00:44:21.360 right now.

00:44:21.940 And, and, um, that's what this country provides.

00:44:26.840 And it's not easy.

00:44:28.060 It's not easy.

00:44:29.160 Like, you know, I, I think it's funny.

00:44:31.300 I, I have people that'll literally attack me all the time because of my business, you

00:44:34.420 know, all your, your grifter, this, that, blah, blah, blah, whatever.

00:44:37.660 And it's like, dude, if you only knew how much easier my life would be if I wasn't building

00:44:44.060 this business, like what is there, what, what are they, uh, I don't understand.

00:44:48.680 What, what are they, what are they, well, well, so for,

00:44:51.920 for example, like I'm not military.

00:44:53.200 Right.

00:44:53.860 And so people who it's so funny because anybody who is in the military, when they meet me,

00:44:58.280 they're like, thank you so much for what you're doing.

00:44:59.940 But people that aren't in the military, of course, they're going to say, oh, you're just

00:45:02.840 taking advantage of, you know, you're not, you're not supposed to be patriotic because

00:45:07.260 you didn't serve in the military.

00:45:08.760 Exactly.

00:45:09.220 And that, yeah, exactly.

00:45:10.760 And so that's just one example.

00:45:12.680 Right.

00:45:12.920 But I get all kinds of people all the time.

00:45:14.360 It's, it's like anything else.

00:45:15.920 You're going to get attacked if you're doing something great.

00:45:17.640 And if you're not getting attacked and you're not doing it right.

00:45:19.640 But, but my thing is like, people have no clue what it takes to build and run a business

00:45:28.140 in America.

00:45:29.120 Like, especially right now, especially with how things are right now with our economy,

00:45:32.460 people just, they don't have the, the, the, the faintest idea.

00:45:36.960 And to be honest, neither did I, until I really got, got going with this.

00:45:39.920 And I have taught myself everything along the way.

00:45:42.360 Right.

00:45:42.940 But the amount of resiliency that it takes to build something like this.

00:45:46.160 And when you have people come out of the woodworks and say, Oh man, you have it so easy.

00:45:49.460 It's like, bro, it's just, it's like, it's just lack of understanding.

00:45:55.160 I think in lack of, uh, people just want to be angry, dude.

00:45:58.620 People just want to be angry.

00:45:59.680 And, and, and they just, you know, they want to create problems where there aren't problems.

00:46:03.660 And that's, that's one of the biggest issues that we have.

00:46:06.120 And that's, that's what can send us down.

00:46:08.860 I think we end up lending these people too much credit.

00:46:11.720 You know, you were talking earlier about some of these people who might call you a racist

00:46:15.480 or a homophobe or, or whatever.

00:46:18.060 And, you know, we, we tend to, as people who are not, uh, you want to defend yourself against

00:46:23.780 that, right?

00:46:24.200 No, I'm not, I'm not a racist.

00:46:26.120 Here's all my black friends, you know, and that's really cringy for sure. 1.00

00:46:30.900 But that's what people say, right. 0.83

00:46:32.500 Or I'm not, I'm not a homophobe because you know, my, my cousin's gay.

00:46:36.220 Like, that's what people say, you know what, that's the, that is an improper response to

00:46:42.000 it. 1.00

00:46:42.440 The proper response is either nothing or you're an idiot. 1.00

00:46:45.880 I really don't care if you call me a racist. 1.00

00:46:47.900 I really don't care if you call me a homophobe. 0.91

00:46:49.960 I really don't care if you think I'm a, like you said, a grifter or you don't like my business

00:46:54.120 model.

00:46:54.680 I don't care.

00:46:56.260 Your opinion of me holds zero weight, zero relevancy and zero credibility.

00:47:02.380 And I just am no longer interested in engaging with somebody or trying to defend myself against

00:47:07.900 false claims and accusations. 0.95

00:47:09.400 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:47:10.280 And it's a waste of my time. 0.99

00:47:11.920 Yep.

00:47:12.480 And, and that right there, that right there is, is actually one of the most powerful statements

00:47:17.600 that anyone can make.

00:47:18.460 Like the minute that, because I think every single one of us have, we, at some point we're

00:47:23.980 in a place where we allow that to have a lot of influence over our life, whether it's,

00:47:27.660 you know, we allow it to get to us or whatever.

00:47:29.680 But I think every single one of us, when we realize that the opinions of others doesn't

00:47:37.900 matter, even, even in the slightest, that's where I feel like we can actually start to

00:47:43.340 unlock our true potential.

00:47:44.200 And I say that because I personally am the one I've experienced that.

00:47:46.840 Like the minute that I stopped giving anybody any power over me, as far as their opinions

00:47:52.240 went, especially people that had no, no like significance in my life whatsoever.

00:47:56.500 The minute that I realized that I was giving them too much power and I stopped, it changed

00:48:02.540 everything.

00:48:03.060 It not only changed the circles that I was in, but it changed, it changed the entire trajectory

00:48:08.220 of my life.

00:48:09.180 And if more people understood that, I believe that we would have a hell of a lot more successful

00:48:14.220 entrepreneurs, a lot more people that were out just freaking crushing life.

00:48:17.620 But we allow ourselves to get so caught up in the opinions of others that we forget the

00:48:22.360 only real opinion that matters is our own.

00:48:25.000 And I would say the people that are closest to us, our kids, our wife, like those are at

00:48:30.360 the end of the day.

00:48:30.940 And I've told people this all day, even some of my best friends, it's like, I don't really

00:48:34.800 care what you think about me.

00:48:36.300 What I care is what I think about myself, what my wife thinks about me and what my kids think

00:48:40.380 about me.

00:48:40.900 At the end of the day, that's all I really care about.

00:48:43.080 And there's power to that.

00:48:45.660 There's real power to that because the flip side, it encompasses and it engulfs everything

00:48:53.460 in your life when you allow it to, especially people like us that have platforms, you know

00:48:57.020 what I mean?

00:48:57.200 Because we get that all the time.

00:48:59.340 You get the internet trolls, right?

00:49:01.860 And it's so easy.

00:49:03.380 And I'm not innocent.

00:49:04.620 It's so easy to bite, right?

00:49:07.140 And the minute that we realized, like you said, that it just, it doesn't matter.

00:49:12.660 Like I, uh, I, anytime somebody comes at me, I always like to post that meme from, or

00:49:17.840 the, uh, I forget what, Thanos, you know, he says, I don't even know who you are.

00:49:22.240 Right.

00:49:22.640 It's like, it's the truth, man.

00:49:24.240 Like, I don't even know who this person is.

00:49:25.820 Why am I giving them any kind of power over me at all?

00:49:28.640 Or any, I don't even even say power.

00:49:30.360 I would just say any time, you know?

00:49:33.080 Yeah.

00:49:33.300 You're just, you're, you're directing your resources towards something that, that doesn't

00:49:37.020 matter.

00:49:37.300 You know, one of my questions that I get quite often is because I talk about some of

00:49:42.540 the same things you do and, and, and the, uh, the implications on society as a whole,

00:49:46.520 if we continue down some of these paths and one question that constantly gets brought up

00:49:50.480 and it's a good question is what do we do about it specifically?

00:49:54.600 And, and when they're asking that, they're asking what they as men need to do specifically

00:50:00.580 to begin to turn the tide of these cultural battles that we see in different places.

00:50:05.540 What, what are some of the things on a strategic or tactical level that men can do to begin

00:50:12.060 to reverse some of the tides on these things?

00:50:15.000 So, man, I, and I get this question all the time too, because it's like, what can we really

00:50:18.940 do?

00:50:19.920 And, um, you know, Andy for still says it's all the time.

00:50:24.640 He says, excellence is the ultimate rebellion, right?

00:50:27.580 And to just quote that and use that, like, that is the truth, man.

00:50:30.980 The, the best thing that you can do, especially as a man right now is put yourself in a position

00:50:36.680 to be everything that, that you're, that nowadays you're not supposed to be right.

00:50:42.160 Be strong, be healthy, be capable, be dangerous, be successful, be filthy, rich, be everything

00:50:50.060 that, that it seems like is being attacked right now.

00:50:54.260 That's truly what I believe.

00:50:55.320 Like find a way to put yourself in the physical, emotional, mental, financial, spiritual position

00:51:00.920 to be an absolute juggernaut.

00:51:04.140 Um, and that like, that's what I'm doing every single day.

00:51:08.040 I mean, it's a, it's a constant journey for sure, but like chip away at that.

00:51:12.020 And I think that that's the best thing we can do because, you know, everybody wants to

00:51:15.320 talk about, well, you know, there's going to be a physical revolution and all the, all

00:51:18.400 the dudes out there with their freaking, you know, skull masks. 0.55

00:51:21.460 But it's like, dude, we need a cultural revolution.

00:51:27.020 It's like you talked about, Ryan.

00:51:28.400 I agree with you a hundred percent, dude.

00:51:29.620 I think that the, like eating healthy and, and being strong and being a good father and

00:51:34.880 being a good provider and women being good nurturers and, and all these things that, that

00:51:40.880 really are what it takes to have a very successful society.

00:51:44.700 Quite frankly, those are the things that should be pushed.

00:51:47.740 And if they're not going to push it, and what I mean by there, I mean like the mainstream

00:51:51.400 media and the, you know, the corporations that stand to gain from the opposite, then

00:51:55.320 we, as a people need to come together and decide enough is enough and do it individually.

00:52:00.680 One person at a time, one community at a time, one family at a time, one community at

00:52:04.940 a time, one city at like, it's gotta come from us, but it's, it's not going to happen

00:52:10.040 with voting.

00:52:10.640 That's just my belief.

00:52:11.780 It's not going to happen with voting.

00:52:12.940 Um, and it's not going to happen with these traditional measures that everybody, you know,

00:52:18.040 talks about as far as the systems in place.

00:52:20.460 It's going to happen when we actually get out there and do what it takes to become physically

00:52:25.740 capable.

00:52:26.460 When we learn how to fight, when we learn how to, when we learn how to train, right.

00:52:30.380 Or when we train, I should say, um, when we put ourselves in a position to be what

00:52:35.300 you stand for protectors, providers, right.

00:52:38.000 And presiders and what I like to add to that is patriots.

00:52:41.880 Um, because that's really what I think it's going to take for there to be a difference.

00:52:47.180 And there just has to be enough men and I'm not discounting women, but it's important that

00:52:53.000 there's enough men that stand up and, and take their lives back and do those things and

00:52:59.840 start focusing on, on being the strong, capable provider that we should be, which is, again,

00:53:06.240 this is why I love your show.

00:53:07.920 This is why I've followed you for so long.

00:53:10.340 Um, because it really is the answer.

00:53:12.820 It is the answer.

00:53:14.040 The answer is that we, as men take everything back collectively.

00:53:19.180 Um, sometimes it's hard because it, it doesn't seem like it's enough.

00:53:25.400 You know, a lot of guys are like, ah, man, if I change, like me changing, that's going to

00:53:29.280 change the world.

00:53:30.100 Yeah, absolutely.

00:53:31.060 It is.

00:53:31.540 You know, I've talked openly about my struggles with alcohol and, you know, I, I, I had no

00:53:37.100 problem explaining and sharing what other guys should do and how we could be better.

00:53:40.480 And then I'm like, wait a second, I have my own problems and I need to make sure I address

00:53:46.440 those things first.

00:53:48.040 And I'm realizing, of course, not realizing I always knew this, but I'm actually putting

00:53:52.980 into practice and action that that behavior is not going to help me become the man that

00:53:57.220 I want to be, right?

00:53:58.980 Being 40 pounds overweight is not behavior.

00:54:02.380 That's going to allow me to be able to protect and take care of my family.

00:54:05.900 Not, not being able to understand how business or marketing or sales work is not going to

00:54:11.820 help me grow a business.

00:54:14.120 That's going to help our family become financially independent.

00:54:16.740 But in the meantime, share a powerful message.

00:54:18.940 There's little things, there's little skeletons that we all have in our closets that we might

00:54:23.200 want to open up every once in a while and take a look at and get those skeletons out

00:54:28.600 of the closet and become more capable.

00:54:31.100 Then when you do that, you're more able to help your neighbor, help a friend do the same

00:54:36.000 thing, help a brother, a father do the same thing.

00:54:38.500 And if millions of us are doing this, it's going to spur on millions and millions of more

00:54:43.460 to do it as well.

00:54:45.220 And you actually touched on something that's so important, man.

00:54:47.780 Um, this is actually something that I even focus on, you know, with my, with my coach.

00:54:53.200 So aside from my business, I also do some coaching.

00:54:55.380 Um, and when I focus on really, really heavily is what it's what made the difference for me,

00:55:01.040 which, which is figuring out what is holding me back.

00:55:05.720 And I know that that's like cliche and that, well, yeah, okay.

00:55:07.860 Everybody says that.

00:55:08.740 No, but there's more to it because the truth is we all have, um, we all have anchors, if

00:55:14.680 you will, okay, that we, and they're formed by experiences that we have, we have traumatic

00:55:19.760 experiences throughout our lives, whatever that may be, whether it's when we were three

00:55:23.960 years old, you know, we witnessed something with our parents that just scarred us for life,

00:55:28.300 or we had a bad breakup when we were 16 and it ingrained in our minds that I'll never

00:55:33.000 be good enough unless I do X, Y, and Z, whatever it is, these experiences that all of

00:55:37.940 us have, which by the way, all of us have, I actually put this comment on your, on your

00:55:41.840 post today that you did, because it's so important.

00:55:44.300 The minute that you start realizing that everyone has skeletons in their closet and no one is

00:55:48.760 bulletproof is the minute that you actually are willing to not only open up, but you can

00:55:52.600 actually start to work on yourself because all of, especially men, like we're so guarded.

00:55:57.440 We're so, we're so, um, it's, you know, like a lot of us don't want to be emotional.

00:56:02.760 A lot of us don't want to open up about the vulnerabilities that we have, but it's like, dude,

00:56:06.300 that's what makes men strong.

00:56:09.460 And so what I focus on with, with my, with my coaching group is like, lift those anchors

00:56:16.320 up because what those, what those anchors, what those experiences do is they literally

00:56:20.480 you put on glasses.

00:56:22.240 Okay.

00:56:22.640 So I'll give you an example.

00:56:23.640 I'll use one of my own examples.

00:56:25.500 Um, when I was 16, my mom left me.

00:56:27.800 Okay.

00:56:28.280 She's, she struggled with a lot of issues throughout her life.

00:56:30.760 Um, she was, she's, she's literally paranoid schizophrenic.

00:56:34.020 Um, I haven't talked to her for years and years and years, but when I was 16, she left,

00:56:38.220 she didn't say a word.

00:56:39.040 She just left. 0.85

00:56:40.140 And at the time I was, I don't think I was old enough to really understand the impact

00:56:45.040 that it was having on me.

00:56:46.140 And I had my, I had my dad and I had my step-mom and I was really close.

00:56:49.500 And so I, it sounds terrible, but I want to say that it, as a 16 year old, I was able

00:56:55.380 to bounce back because I had dealt with a lot of things up to that point anyway.

00:56:59.000 And so it didn't make a huge impact at that point in time.

00:57:02.260 However, as I became an adult, when I was, you know, this is literally after I got married

00:57:08.820 and, and we, and I, I decided I wanted to see a counselor because I felt like I had something

00:57:14.280 that was just freaking dragging me down.

00:57:16.140 And I was like, I got to figure out what this is.

00:57:17.540 And I just, I have to be strong enough to go and talk to somebody.

00:57:20.100 And so I did.

00:57:21.020 And that person helped me understand that that one experience became an anchor and, and created

00:57:27.560 a literal lens that I was then seeing the world from, which was, I am not chosen.

00:57:33.960 Like people aren't going to choose me.

00:57:36.120 They're going to choose something else because, because I told myself subconsciously that my

00:57:40.180 mom chose whatever it was that she left for.

00:57:43.760 Right.

00:57:44.460 And dude, that affected my entire life up until the point that I sat down on that couch and

00:57:49.740 figured that out.

00:57:50.420 To the point where every relationship prior to my wife was destroyed because of that,

00:57:55.240 to the point where I never actually went hard in business, or I was, I was a salesman.

00:58:00.320 I sold door to door for six years.

00:58:01.840 Right.

00:58:02.140 I never went super hard.

00:58:03.580 I was, I was super talented, but I never did the extra, the extra work to be the best

00:58:08.280 because of that one thing that I experienced.

00:58:12.100 And the minute that I pulled that anchor up out of the sand and the minute that I took those 0.99

00:58:16.500 freaking glasses off for the first time, it was like, holy crap. 0.97

00:58:21.320 This is why, like, this is why I am, I have been where I have been. 0.51

00:58:27.240 And now it's like, dude, all gas.

00:58:30.180 Like, you know what I mean?

00:58:31.580 Cause you just realize, okay, that's, it's completely false.

00:58:35.460 And so I would say, I want to answer your question a little bit better, actually, when

00:58:39.180 you said, what are some things that men can do? 0.98

00:58:40.740 Number one, figure out what crap is hiding under the floorboards. 0.99

00:58:45.320 I don't care if it means you got to go see a counselor. 0.99

00:58:47.180 I don't care if it'd be like, it doesn't matter.

00:58:48.660 Just figure it out because I promise you it's there.

00:58:51.160 And if you haven't figured it out yet, there's, it's the reason, in my opinion, this isn't,

00:58:55.800 you know, fact, but my opinion is that is the reason why you are more than likely sitting

00:59:00.100 where you're sitting right now thinking I want more.

00:59:02.200 I should have more. 0.99

00:59:03.700 It's because you're not, it's, it's your own damn fault. 0.99

00:59:06.360 It's no one else's fault. 0.98

00:59:07.280 And the minute that you pull those floorboards up and you realize what's going on,

00:59:10.440 is the minute you're going to say, Oh, Oh, okay.

00:59:13.880 That's why I'm here.

00:59:15.620 The next thing is on a physical level.

00:59:17.800 The next thing is obviously workout and everything.

00:59:19.660 Right.

00:59:20.100 But another thing that a lot of people don't like to talk about, that's, that's very taboo.

00:59:23.560 I feel like is the levels of testosterone right now with men.

00:59:28.580 And I'm not just talking about like 30 year olds.

00:59:30.660 I'm talking about 25 and above, right?

00:59:34.100 There is, I forget the exact study.

00:59:36.540 It was, I'd have to pull it up, but it was like the testosterone levels in men has gone

00:59:40.600 down like 40% since 2001 or something like that.

00:59:43.880 And the amount of men that I have talked to and worked with where they have gone and gotten

00:59:48.540 their blood work done and figured out where their test levels are, dude, it would, it would

00:59:52.380 blow your mind.

00:59:53.120 I did the same thing.

00:59:53.980 I had the test levels of a 65 year old man and I was 34.

00:59:57.320 Mine, I think, so I'm 41, my testosterone levels about, about a year ago were right around

01:00:04.440 250, just horribly, horribly low.

01:00:08.380 And part of that was alcohol and there's some, you know, but being overweight, sedentary, that

01:00:14.060 sort of thing, you know, there's things, but it's not, but it's not just that dude.

01:00:17.240 It's not just that it's the stress it's, it's all of the things that, that are being pushed

01:00:22.220 on men nowadays.

01:00:23.160 Right.

01:00:23.460 And, um, the crazy thing is you'll go into a normal doctor and the doctor will say, if

01:00:28.380 you have three, 400, like, Oh, you're fine.

01:00:30.240 You're normal.

01:00:30.680 No, you're not.

01:00:31.540 If it takes two energy drinks to get to 5.

01:00:33.680 PM every day, you're not normal.

01:00:35.380 That's not how men should be functioning. 0.97

01:00:37.300 Especially if you're a healthy man that works out and that lives an otherwise healthy lifestyle.

01:00:41.960 Like you should not be feeling like you can't get up and play with your kids at seven o'clock

01:00:46.580 at night, which is where, you know, where, which is where I was.

01:00:49.740 So that's the next thing is I would say, go get your blood levels checked and figure out

01:00:53.020 where the hell your test is, because I promise you it's going to make a massive difference.

01:00:56.320 And then the other thing I would say is just, again, just train like not enough men are

01:01:00.840 training.

01:01:01.140 And I'll be honest, I'm, I'm, I'm not innocent when it came to, you know, two years ago, I

01:01:05.320 wasn't, I wasn't training either, but this last year or so I've really decided, okay,

01:01:08.760 I'm going to train and I'm not going to just know how to shoot a gun.

01:01:11.340 I'm going to know how to actually protect my family.

01:01:13.360 If someone breaks in my house, you know, I'm going to get tactical and I'm going to understand

01:01:17.680 all the ins and outs about it.

01:01:19.980 And, and, um, that's something that is super important right now because there's going to

01:01:26.780 come a time when we need it.

01:01:28.240 I'm just saying, I don't know when that is, but it's going to come.

01:01:31.520 Um, and so I would say that health, you know, become dangerous, get tactical train lift.

01:01:39.100 Um, and, and, uh, and the other thing I would just say is, is have some grace with yourself.

01:01:48.720 Like all of us are, all of us are bombarded with all kinds of things, especially if you're

01:01:53.920 an entrepreneur and I'm just talking because I'm talking to myself, right?

01:01:57.840 Every single one of us have to have more grace with ourselves and, and, and realize we can't

01:02:03.140 do everything.

01:02:04.480 And it's all about just those little wins every single day.

01:02:07.320 It's about stacking those little wins.

01:02:08.700 And I'm not just talking about business wins.

01:02:10.560 If you make it home on time and you're able to hang out with your kids before they go

01:02:13.840 to bed, that's a win.

01:02:15.500 If you send a text to your wife and you tell her you love her and you tell her she's beautiful

01:02:18.660 and you're grateful for her, that's a win.

01:02:20.620 Get used to stacking nothing but wins.

01:02:22.920 And that way, every time the loses come, the losses come around, you're going to be able

01:02:27.440 to break right through them.

01:02:28.680 That's what creates real resiliency.

01:02:29.900 In my opinion is when you start to just view the world from I'm winning, I'm always winning.

01:02:34.160 Everything I do is a win.

01:02:35.180 This is a win, right?

01:02:36.300 The fact that I was able to put this together, that's a win.

01:02:41.000 Not enough men are stacking their wins and too many people are stacking the losses.

01:02:46.320 And that also gives you, I was going to say, it also gives you faith in yourself.

01:02:52.100 You know, a lot of guys don't have faith in themselves.

01:02:53.740 Like you're talking about grace, which of course is, is crucial, but also have some faith.

01:02:58.340 You know, maybe you're in the gutter right now.

01:03:00.420 Maybe you're struggling with a divorce or, or a health scare or some financial struggles.

01:03:06.660 Bro, have some faith in yourself.

01:03:08.520 You know, like you're, you're 35 years old.

01:03:11.280 You overcame some childhood trauma.

01:03:13.040 You overcame a past bad relationship.

01:03:14.880 You've always been able to put food on the table and a roof over your head.

01:03:18.040 You've been strong.

01:03:18.860 Maybe you played sports.

01:03:20.080 Like those are so many, like you said, wins that you should build upon.

01:03:23.940 You did it before.

01:03:24.840 Look where you are.

01:03:25.980 Have some faith that you're going to get through whatever you are now.

01:03:29.040 And then go put that faith to work.

01:03:30.500 That's right, dude.

01:03:32.760 It, I think, um, someone, someone asked me the other day, what I think has made the biggest

01:03:41.860 difference in my life, because those that have, that have followed me for a long time,

01:03:47.100 you know, prior to all this, I had a career in sales.

01:03:49.020 I was, I was for 10 plus years.

01:03:50.900 You know what I mean?

01:03:51.280 So I've, I've family members, friends, followers, whatever.

01:03:54.940 I had somebody that reached out.

01:03:56.280 That's been kind of along that journey for now, about nine years.

01:03:59.640 And they said, what dude, what is the biggest difference?

01:04:02.100 Because literally in the last two or three years, you have made a complete one 80, like

01:04:05.600 you're not who you used to be in any way, shape or form.

01:04:09.180 Um, and the answer was something that I, it kind of, it kind of surprised me, honestly.

01:04:14.620 But what I said was, it kind of goes back to what I said before about how I stopped caring

01:04:18.440 what other people thought about me, but it was more than that.

01:04:20.840 It was, I stopped, I stopped comparing or trying to compete with other people.

01:04:25.960 You know, I, for most of my adult life, I was in the, I was in a door-to-door sales industry.

01:04:31.500 I, I knocked for six years and then I, and then I was actually an executive and I built

01:04:35.280 the training platform and things like that.

01:04:36.900 But dude, the amount, the amount of, of competitive, um, energy that existed in that, in that industry

01:04:47.460 to the point where it was like, you're just constantly trying to prove yourself.

01:04:52.600 That's what the right word is.

01:04:53.600 It's not even competing.

01:04:54.680 It's, I stopped trying to prove myself to anyone.

01:04:58.260 I like, I stopped, I just realized I don't need to prove myself to anyone.

01:05:04.300 Like, all I need to do is prove to myself that I'm capable.

01:05:08.340 And the thing is, I already know I am.

01:05:10.000 I already know that I'm capable of doing whatever the hell I want to do because I've

01:05:13.240 done it my entire, my entire life.

01:05:14.660 And it's, and I know this all sounds like, you know, cliche and storybook and like coachy

01:05:20.020 or whatever, but I'm telling you, there's a reason why people say these things that are

01:05:23.080 successful.

01:05:23.500 It's because you get to a point where you just realized that you're just like, I like

01:05:29.460 the talents and the skills and the abilities that I have been blessed with since birth that

01:05:34.240 I am able to, I just didn't say it's a birth since, since very young, whatever, right.

01:05:37.720 That I've been able to develop and lean into and then create opportunity with, those are

01:05:42.980 the things that I will always have to lean back on.

01:05:45.940 And if I just keep doing everything I've always done, I'm going to be wildly successful.

01:05:51.080 And then people that are wildly successful are going to find their way into my circle and

01:05:55.220 it's going to be even better.

01:05:56.900 And I'm telling you that that all stems from the point where you stop trying to prove yourself

01:06:01.320 to anyone.

01:06:02.720 It just doesn't matter, man.

01:06:04.480 Like it's, yeah.

01:06:08.140 It's powerful.

01:06:09.400 It's powerful.

01:06:10.120 Well, brother, Hey, tell the guys where to learn more about you personally, what you're

01:06:15.280 doing.

01:06:15.720 Also Patriot, uh, and we're going to link it all up.

01:06:18.800 So the guys know where to go, but I'd love them to be able to connect with you.

01:06:21.860 Yeah.

01:06:22.180 So I'll tell you a little bit about the company really quick.

01:06:23.640 Um, I, I run a company called official Patriot gear.

01:06:26.020 If you guys have ever seen the like distressed Patriot logo on people's t-shirts and stuff,

01:06:29.440 that's us.

01:06:29.920 Um, long story short, mission's really simple.

01:06:32.740 We're just trying to do our best to remind people that Patriotism is not partisan is

01:06:37.440 not exclusive.

01:06:38.920 Um, it's simply, you love the country.

01:06:41.080 You love the people you want it to thrive.

01:06:42.900 You want it to grow.

01:06:43.560 You want it to be free and you're willing to defend those things.

01:06:45.800 I don't, I don't care what you are.

01:06:47.420 You're that makes you a Patriot.

01:06:48.840 And, and, you know, going back to what we said before, I believe that that is one of the

01:06:53.320 biggest reasons why I've kind of dug my heels in there is because when you talk about

01:06:57.020 how to make the good aware of the evil, I think once we all realize that every single

01:07:01.700 one of us, aside from a select few want the best for our people in our country and love

01:07:08.280 the country that we live in, that Patriotism actually has the ability to unite us, you

01:07:12.380 know, look at nine 12, right after nine 11, it didn't matter who you were standing next

01:07:16.200 to.

01:07:16.520 All that mattered was we're Americans period.

01:07:18.820 Right.

01:07:19.880 Um, so that's, that's the company.

01:07:21.540 That's kind of the message and the idea.

01:07:22.860 If that resonates with you, go grab some gear.

01:07:24.300 It's officialpatriotgear.com.

01:07:26.500 Um, we also have an Instagram, the official Patriot gear.

01:07:29.320 And then my personal Instagram is really where people know me from or follow me.

01:07:32.860 It's it's I Winster.

01:07:33.980 So it's I W E N D T S T E R. 0.99

01:07:37.480 Um, and, uh, I do pretty much everything on there right now.

01:07:41.240 I'm, we're starting to build out like YouTube and other platforms and things, but right now

01:07:45.000 that's the primary, um, place you'll find me.

01:07:48.060 And then, uh, and then I also run my coaching group, the free collective.

01:07:51.260 It just started this about three months ago.

01:07:52.860 We have about 85 members, um, you know, jump in there if you want to.

01:07:57.880 It's, it's, uh, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a different experience than you're going to

01:08:01.880 get in other, other coaching groups.

01:08:03.600 So yeah, that's, that's me in a nutshell, dude.

01:08:07.060 Excellent.

01:08:07.220 Well, it's been good to get to know you.

01:08:08.340 Your message has inspired me to, to be a little bit more vocal about the things I believe.

01:08:11.940 And I think this is going to be good fuel for other men to do the same.

01:08:15.920 Appreciate you, brother.

01:08:16.420 Thanks for joining me.

01:08:17.380 Yeah, man.

01:08:17.780 Thanks so much.

01:08:18.300 I appreciate everything you do, dude.

01:08:19.320 All right, gentlemen, there you go.

01:08:22.320 My conversation with Ian went, my, my hope on this one is that it inspires you to speak

01:08:27.320 up, to speak out, to put your money where your mouth is, to serve in your community,

01:08:32.960 to talk about these issues that too many people are unwilling to talk about because they don't

01:08:37.580 want to rock the boat.

01:08:38.440 It's time that we rock the boat, right?

01:08:41.020 But the boat is sinking, water's coming in.

01:08:44.040 We got to do something about that.

01:08:45.720 We got to draw attention to it.

01:08:47.660 And we got to start shoveling that water out and fixing the holes in the boat.

01:08:51.940 Because if we're not willing to do that, we're all going to drown.

01:08:56.360 That's the reality.

01:08:57.480 So guys, if there's an issue that's on your mind, if there's a problem that you see in

01:09:01.820 society, please use this podcast and Ian's message to go out and do something about it,

01:09:08.700 to serve in your community, put your money where your mouth is, start investing, start

01:09:11.740 talking, and let's draw attention to these problems.

01:09:15.160 And then of course, do something about it.

01:09:17.220 All right, guys, please connect with me, connect with Ian on the gram.

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Order of Man - February 28, 2023

IAN WENDT ｜ Become a Man of Conviction

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