IAN WENDT ｜ Become a Man of Conviction
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Summary
As men, we are hardwired to look for problems we see within the environments around us. Unfortunately, too few of us are willing to take the next step and do something about the issues we identify. My guest today is not that kind of man. His name is Ian Wendt, and he s taking a stand against some of the most controversial social issues of the day. Today, Ian and I talk about overcoming the opinions of others, when to compromise and when not to, how excellence is the ultimate rebellion, and ultimately becoming a man of conviction.
Transcript
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As men, we're hardwired to look for problems we see within the environments around us.
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Unfortunately, too few of us are willing to take the next step and do something about
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His name is Ian Wendt, and he's taking a stand against some of the most polarizing
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Today, Ian and I talk about overcoming the opinions of others, when to compromise and
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when not to, how excellence is the ultimate rebellion, how a man ought to show up in his
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community, and ultimately becoming a man of conviction.
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Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.
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When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.
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You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.
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And at the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.
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I'm the host and the founder of the Order of Man podcast.
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Today, I'm talking with Ian Wendt about becoming a man of conviction.
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And a man of conviction doesn't just simply have strong beliefs.
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It matches his actions and his deeds with the things that he believes.
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So Ian and I are going to talk a lot about that today.
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Before we get into it, if you're new, just want to let you know this is a podcast dedicated
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to helping you become the man that you want to be, the man that you're meant to be.
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We've got our exclusive brotherhood, the Iron Council, which is opening up in March, the
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So if you are interested in that, I'll talk a little bit more about that.
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But you can head to orderofman.com slash iron council.
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Please make sure you share the show and promote what we're doing because you know, as well
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as I do, that we need to bring back manliness, bring back masculinity and serve ourselves,
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As I said, my guest today is a good friend and he's somebody that I admire because he's
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willing to put his money where his mouth is, which as you know, is an increasing rarity
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His name is Ian Wendt and he's got a successful history in communication sales, but has since
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launched his own brand and apparel company called Official Patriot Gear.
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And he's taking this message to the masses and drawing light and attention to some of the
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most controversial and polarizing subjects of today's culture and society.
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Looks like you had some changes to the studio since, uh, since last week.
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Are you in the same place that you were last week when we chatted?
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So last week, last week I was actually in our storefront that we're building out.
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Um, and, uh, I was just sitting in the back where we had like, it was just construction,
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So I actually found a, I found a building in town.
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I live in a really, really small town and I found a building that had a soundproof room.
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I looked on, I looked on like Facebook cause I was like, I don't know what the freak I'm
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going to do because it's, you know, it's still like a week away.
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So anyway, found this room and, uh, rented it out and just went and grabbed a microphone
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I think this has been one of the wilder, uh, times that I've had in scheduling.
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And then we ended up getting together and the sound quality wasn't great.
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And I really wanted to make sure it was good for the guys.
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I think, um, it shouldn't be as controversial as it is.
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Uh, I, I actually don't think it should be as rare as it is with regards to what you
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Uh, and that is just talk about things that I think in society,
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Uh, and, and I think we're going to get into that, but I really do want to hear your story
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as to why you started talking about these cultural issues, these societal issues, as
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opposed to just kind of keeping your head down and going about with the status quo.
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Um, yeah, I've told, I've told the story a lot, so I'm going to try and condense it.
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Cause I, I, I knew, uh, I knew you were going to ask me.
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So back in 2020, um, it really started when, when I, when the riots started, when all the
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riots started, that's really when I decided to start speaking up.
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Um, you know, and I had a pretty decent influence.
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I had, you know, probably 15,000 followers or something like that.
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And, and, uh, I was pretty well known in my space and in the business space and sales
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And, and what it came down to was I saw it for what it was, man.
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Like it, when I, when I saw the, the simultaneous, you know, riots going on and all these major
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cities and everything, and everybody just consuming the mainstream media and saying, Oh my gosh,
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It's like, well, dude, I ran events for a really long time.
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So aside from my sales career, I actually used to run college age events for, for a
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And we pack, you know, we'd pack massive buildings with like 4,000 kids in a college
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I mean, the amount of things that it takes to organize an event like that and the, and the
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time that it takes, I mean, we would start planning that event, marketing it, um, putting
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everything together literally four or five months in advance.
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And so when I see all of this happening at the exact same time, I'm like, dude, there's
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no way that this isn't orchestrated at some level and, and in some way.
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And maybe, is there, is there an element of, of social contagion with that though?
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Somebody has got to initiate things like this, but then some ideas just tend to catch on like
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And I think a lot of the times they don't even know why they're participating.
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And I think there was definitely an element of that.
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When you swing too far to one side or the other, you just, you get off course, but the
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And to me, it was like, it was a little bit of everything.
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But when I started to see, you know, the videos of the bricks being stacked in front of buildings
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and, and all this, like all the things that didn't make a whole lot of sense.
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And I'm like, this is going to cause a massive divide in this country.
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And this is the beginning of how they divide us.
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This is the beginning, whether, you know, if you want to talk about two sides, whether
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it was orchestrated to, on purpose to divide us, which to be honest, that's what I believe.
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But there is that side of like, okay, it was just, it just happened.
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And then the people who are continually pushing that agenda to divide us just took advantage
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But either way, I was like, guys, what they're showing us on the news and what you know about
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this government, according to movies and everything else is so far from the, from the actual truth.
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And, and this is all this is, is, is meant to divide us and create this insane, like ideology
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in this country that if you're a different color than I am, or if you believe differently
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than I do, or if you're a different religion or whatever, that we just can't exist together.
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And I think a big part of it also had to do with the fact that I'd become a father.
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Um, this is right after I had my boy and it was just different, man.
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Like, you know, I always, I I've thought about this a few times.
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Like if it was just me, if I hadn't been a father, would I have said anything like what,
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or would I have just kind of kept my head down?
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Because the truth is people closest to me knew, you know, that Ian was a closet conspiracy
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That was always like, it was always just something that entertaining to me.
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So people closest to me knew that, but the, the world didn't know that.
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And when I decided to blow the lid off that, I mean, even my wife was like, you're an idiot.
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Like you've been building this platform with what you have right now for so long and you've
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worked so hard and now you're just going to burn it to the ground.
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And so I just, sure enough, I turned my phone around and I started talking.
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And, um, what I realized was far more people than I ever imagined, um, had no idea.
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They, they had no clue about any of this stuff, about any of the, you know, you call it now
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it's called conspiracy theories, but you know, there's that, there's that cliche meme going
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around right now that we're running out of them because they keep coming true.
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It's more of a prediction at this point than it is conspiracy theory.
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How many people had no idea about like any of that stuff?
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Like everybody just had their heads in the sand.
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And the other thing that was really shocking to me was even though I fully expected to burn
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my platform to the ground, it was the exact opposite.
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I mean, hundreds and hundreds of DMS and tens of thousands of people in less than a week.
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And everybody was like, you know, why is this happening?
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And so, you know, I, I basically started to, um, share truth as much as I could, or, or share
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like what I saw and what I, what I believed was really happening.
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And, um, I started creating these little highlight movies on my, on my Instagram.
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I started like, like full stories where it got to the point where people would literally
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have like date night and they would call it, I winster night.
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And they would watch these stories all the way through and, um, and then share them like
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Like I just, I started speaking up about the divide that I saw happening in the country
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That's that's, I mean, like a lot of other people, honestly, in my, in my same shoes,
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there's a lot of people like me right now that did the exact same thing.
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We just felt the need to raise awareness of what was really happening and try our best to
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Um, you, you say, you say, uh, they, you know, you said that is they are trying to divide us
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when you say they, I mean, that's a, that's a really, that's a really broad accusation.
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And I don't entirely disagree, but I think we need to really get to the root of who they
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is because that's always kind of just left in the dark.
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And that's why there's not a whole lot of credibility because you hear people are like,
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yeah, they, they're trying to divide us who like, like, tell us who exactly is trying
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And then at least we can get to the root of that issue.
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I, you know, I'm glad you said that because the truth is I find myself saying that a lot.
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Um, and while I do believe that there is a small group, probably let's say this way,
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I believe, um, and I've shared this multiple times, but never on your platform.
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So I think a lot of people will benefit from hearing this.
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I believe that, um, you know, as cliche as it is, we are truly in a battle of good and
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I think, I think that is, I think that is the truth.
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And I think, I think that when it comes to, if you were to, if you were to look at those
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sides, if you were to look at the good and the evil, right, evil is not, you don't negotiate
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And, and you stomp it out and you do the exact opposite and you go the opposite direction,
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But the good, if you consider the good, the good is full of every type of person from
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every walk of life, every religion, every sex, every freaking demographic, every race,
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But the one thing that I believe divides us when it comes to the good and the reason why
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we can't seem to come together to fight the evil is awareness of the evil and what the
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And, and the thing is, once people figure that out, no matter where they stand, no
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matter what side of the line they stand on, all of a sudden it's like, oh, so you're not
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And now we need to come together to fight that enemy.
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And so, you know, um, this kind of goes into why I started everything that I did.
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It just, it got to a point where I realized that that's, that that's what was happening.
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And so when I say they, I think most of the time what I'm referring to is, is the evil
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influence that exists in this world and whether that evil influence is in individuals because
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they've been consumed by it or organizations or the media or, you know, the corporations
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and industries that stand to gain from other, other people's losses or, you know, the, the,
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I think that's what I refer to when I say they, because I don't think you really can't.
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I mean, I, I think some people have their idea of who they might be like actual names
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and actual people, but it's obviously not productive and not constructive to name people
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because no one really knows at the end of the day.
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So I think they, when I say that, I just think they refers to the evil and, and specifically
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the individuals that are consumed with that evil because of, you know, the greed and the
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And I always say this too, Ryan, it's like, dude, people like that, that are so driven
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They're not the kind of people that jump that, that, that climb up the ladder and decide,
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They're the kind of people that are like, where's the next ladder?
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And the thing is, once you have all the money and all the power and, and in the world, there's
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There's only one thing left that can satisfy that amount of greed.
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And that amount of, you know, um, desire, which is I have the money, I have the power.
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And, um, I think that is what we were faced with.
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I think, I think the influence of evil, whether you're Christian and you believe in the devil
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or you just believe in evil energy or whatever it is, I think that is consuming us as a society.
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And there are, you know, there are groups of people, um, and small ones, cause I believe
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secrets are kept in small circles, unless you're talking about Santa Claus, but those groups,
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Those people, I believe are, are out to control.
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And, um, in order to control, you need to divide, you need to divide and you need to
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And I think that's what we're seeing in the country right now, especially in our country.
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Um, I, I, I think I tend to agree with the evil nature of it.
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You know, the, the one thing I see is that evil.
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And I, and when I say evil, I'm talking about satanic evil, uh, disguises itself in.
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Like, and I'm not saying that directing that at you.
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I just wish, and I'm trying to be more this way is let's stop beating around the bush and
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Like let's stand on something, even if people think we're crazy.
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So I'll go ahead and say it's satanic evil, but the way that it manifests itself is very
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And, and, and, and, and, and, and that, that, that doesn't seem satanic.
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It's not witches and warlocks doing secret blood rituals.
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And then I also believe there's a large contingent of useful idiots who don't really believe
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necessarily that they're trying to control and all of this sort of thing, but they're
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being guided and instructed in ways that are perpetuating some overreach of power and
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I, I think, you know, going along with what you said, um, this is actually something I've
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talked about recently is, and it's, I, it's, it's something I don't think a lot of people
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If you consider the ultimate, um, you know, let's just call it for what it is.
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What is the ultimate agenda of the devil, right?
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The ultimate agenda of the devil is to take away free agency.
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It's to literally buying people to him and to his desires and to his passions, because
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He's literally bound to his own passions and his own desires.
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And so the thing he wants the most is to make it so that people can't progress.
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And the way that you make it so people can't progress is you take away their freedom of
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And what's so interesting, Ryan, is if you look at how things are, if you look at the
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direction of where things are going right now, and if you look at, you know, the different,
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um, ideologies that are starting to, to become more prevalent in society, it seems to me, at
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least like not only is freedom of choice being attacked, but the desire to have the freedom
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Like people literally are begging for other people to make decisions for them to, to like,
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And nobody wants to actually do the work themselves.
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Nobody wants to have the ability to make the choice to do the work or to, or to just, you
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And it's seen, I shouldn't say everybody, that's a very blanket statement, but a large
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majority, I would say of society is what I've, what I've, uh, observed.
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And it's interesting to me because like I said, when you think about the agenda of the devil,
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taking away the ability for mankind to, you know, the children of God to make a choice.
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Well, that disrupts God's plan, which is what I believe is allow his children to make choices
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and, and, you know, live good lives and try their best to be Christ-like.
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And, and, uh, that I believe is the plan of God, right?
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But his children can't progress if they can't make choices.
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And so when I look at those two, uh, dynamics, it just, it makes sense to me that that's what
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the devil would be, or that's what the evil influence would be attacking the hardest, even
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Apathy, lack of accountability, um, you know, work ethic, all of these things are, are what
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They're the building blocks of progression and progression is the ultimate goal for God's
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That that's at least what I believe we cannot progress if we don't have the ability or if
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we don't want the ability to choose to progress.
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And that at the end of the day is slavery, which is exactly what I believe the devil wants.
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He wants us to be slaves to our own sins and our own decisions and our, and our own apathy,
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And I think, you know, the other let's, so there is that spiritual component and that's
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what I, I believe too, but let's say there's a guy who's listening and there are plenty who
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don't believe in God and don't come from the spiritual perspective.
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It's just being better word because again, sensitivity, like I don't need to be sensitive
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to the fact that you believe something different than I do.
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I need to be aware of it so I can have a conversation with you.
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And here, here's one thing that I, that I'm aware of, or at least I would, I would think
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is that somebody who is non-religious, non-spiritual, let's say, doesn't believe in God, you don't
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have to believe in God to know that the path that we tend to gravitate towards is not best
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You can look at the, the incredibly horrific atrocities against millions and millions of
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people perpetuated by people who are seeking control, power and power, money.
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And, and, and so I hope wherever you stand on the, on the spiritual aisle of things, you
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can see that this is not, this is not a good path to go, but it is interesting that when
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you talk about taking away freedom, it's usually cloaked as giving more freedom.
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And I can't think of a better place than transgenderism because you have, you have these,
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these people who are perpetuating these ideas that are damaging and destructive physically,
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It's, it's in all ways it's destructive to these people and they're saying, well, we're
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And yet when you speak out against it or you say, I don't agree with that.
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Then you are dehumanized, you are, yeah, exactly.
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And you're, you're, you're attacked and you're doxxed and they go after sources of income
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and they go after family even, and it becomes a horrible situation.
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So you can't say on one hand, we're inclusive and we believe in option and choice.
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But if you don't believe differently than, or if you believe differently than us, then that,
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except for that, except for that, we don't believe in that.
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Yeah, I, I actually, uh, this is something I actually talked about a couple of days ago.
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Um, I, I posted a video, um, and I don't know how to pronounce this guy's last name.
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I'm not even going to try, but the dude who is in charge of transportation, right?
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And I didn't want to try and attempt it, but anyway, he, uh, he, they, they were talking
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about this Ohio disaster and they were asking him a bunch of questions and everything.
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And of course, the one thing that he was focused on was, well, not the one thing, but the main
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things that it seemed like he was focused on was the inequality and the racism.
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And so I caught a video, um, of Matt Walsh talking about, uh, how he was elected to be
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in that position simply because he's a homosexual and how that's a very well-known fact.
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Um, and whether you like Matt Walsh or not, he made some really good points and it just
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It's like, look, participation trophies have consequences.
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And of course I had a few people, cause you know, I believe it or not, I actually don't
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have just a straight up echo chamber with mine.
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I have, I have people that still follow me and enjoy to have, you know, conversations
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But anyway, I had some people reach out and they were like, well, so are you, are you
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saying, you know, they were like, are you attacking homosexuality and no, you know, in,
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And I was like, I made a video and I was like, no, like I, I am not here to judge people or
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The truth is there's only one, one being that can ever make that call and actually judge
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And we will be judged, but it's not my place to do that.
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And if you know, you're free to live your life, how you want to, as long as you're not causing
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And as long as you're not going after the kids, because at the end of the day, that's
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what it comes down to leave the freaking kids out of it.
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But if you're an adult and you want to do whatever you want to do, if you want to call
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yourself a unicorn on Wednesday and a freaking leopard on Tuesday, I could care less because
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And just like, just like I have to respect your freedom to do that.
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You have, then I asked that you respect my freedom to want to carry a gun, right.
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Or believe in God or, or, or whatever freedom is freedom.
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And I think what happens is people get off the tracks because they, they think that they
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can pick and choose how people use their own freedom.
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And, and something that I've said before is freedom doesn't end where religion begins,
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even though it's something that I believe very, very strongly, right.
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If they can't make choices, they can't make mistakes.
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And I think this is where, this is where a lot of people, I feel like, um, this is where,
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this is the reason why I think a lot of people enjoy following me is because I try to see
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both sides and it's like both sides of the aisle.
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If you're talking about the right, the left, conservative, Republican, liberal, Democrat,
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And when it comes to their freedoms or their choices, that's the right freedom, but this is
00:24:51.120
Once again, if you're not doing harm to somebody like, like hurting someone, and if you're
00:24:59.080
If you're an adult and you want to, you want to do those things, like who are we to tell
00:25:04.960
And, um, I think that's a really, really, I think it is important that, and here's, here's
00:25:11.740
how I look, there still is right and wrong, you know, now, now somebody has the freedom
00:25:15.820
to make choices and they have the freedom to be wrong.
00:25:18.220
You know, I, I tend to believe that my perspective is right because I try to be somewhat educated
00:25:26.100
I realize it's not truth with a capital T or even this, my truth nonsense.
00:25:34.640
If I didn't think it was right, I'd have a different opinion.
00:25:37.500
But I do believe there's a wrong way of living and, and I fall into that at times and I do
00:25:42.360
believe there's a right way, but you do, yes, have the freedom generally, not, not in all
00:25:46.240
cases, but generally have the freedom to decide, even if it is incorrect.
00:25:50.540
And that's, and I would agree with that a hundred percent.
00:25:52.600
And I just, I think this is just one of the examples of the issues that we have as a country.
00:25:57.280
I mean, we are literally like, we're, we're tearing ourselves apart from the inside and
00:26:01.940
our, our enemies are winning without firing a single shot because we can't get over the
00:26:05.840
fact that, Hey, you want to live your life like that?
00:26:13.080
We can still have a, like we can, we can still exist together.
00:26:17.720
But at the end of the day, there's such a strong agenda right now to create this idea that,
00:26:24.380
that that's not okay and that you're wrong and I'm right.
00:26:30.420
And, you know, I think another thing that a lot of people forget is dude, this country
00:26:36.760
Like the reason why we have the bill of rights and the freaking constitution is because a
00:26:40.980
bunch of dudes that quite frankly, didn't agree on a whole lot.
00:26:43.360
If you really want to dig into the truth of the founding fathers, they didn't agree on
00:26:46.920
a whole lot, but they came together and they said, we do agree on one thing.
00:26:52.020
And so we have to get our crap together and figure out a way to, to compromise and create
00:26:57.780
a system where we can, where we can make this happen.
00:27:00.600
And that's where I think that things are breaking down now is, and I wrote this down before you
00:27:05.460
said that, cause I wanted to touch on this and you, and you walked right into it, which
00:27:08.760
Cause you, cause I think you're hitting on this next point I wanted to address, which
00:27:11.980
is that in order to work together, we need to have some sort of common morals principles.
00:27:18.120
And I would even say honor code, uh, we, we might see it differently.
00:27:24.000
We might come about it differently, but if at the end of the day, we don't believe in
00:27:27.920
the same morals principles and code of honor, I mean, what more are we going to agree upon?
00:27:32.480
And that's why, you know, we, we, we saw as far as this country was, was founded, why we've
00:27:38.320
seen a lot of the, the, the war that we have is because the morals were so there.
00:27:45.800
It was so vast between the way that each side viewed, uh, their, their morals and their
00:27:51.400
principles that it was inevitably be bound to happen, which is a breakup, whether it's
00:27:58.180
And, and I think what's happening now is look, yeah, we can get along for sure.
00:28:03.980
And, and we can work to compromise, but if there's some fundamental differences of values
00:28:10.120
and principles and a code of honor, I'm not sure there's much getting along if you get
00:28:17.840
So I think, and I, I would agree, but I think that it also comes down to the reason why, like,
00:28:23.400
for example, let's just talk about, let's talk about the transgender issue, right?
00:28:26.580
At the end of the day, if you knew somebody who was transgender and they were a super kind
00:28:32.880
human being, and let's say they're, you're a friend, they're a friend of yours, right?
00:28:36.200
Are you going to constantly look at them differently just because of the way they're choosing to
00:28:41.220
Most people are probably not going to, despite what the media may say, or despite what, you
00:28:46.620
And I think that's the point is, you know, you hear people say all the time, go out your front
00:28:50.620
door and talk to your neighbor and you'll find out that everything they say on the news
00:28:55.860
And it's, and, and my thing is, it's, it's not so much that, I guess this is my opinion.
00:29:02.400
It's not so much that, um, we don't all have the same morals as much as it is.
00:29:08.480
There's a clear agenda that is being shoved down our throats that we need to change our
00:29:13.540
morals, that we need to change the way that we believe that we need to change our, our code
00:29:17.600
of conduct or our code of, or, you know, our, our code of honor or whatever.
00:29:23.700
And it's like, if you look at how things are with that transgender, LGBTQ agenda, right?
00:29:32.480
Let's say that those people who look at something like, for example, toxic masculinity, right?
00:29:37.300
Get it, being strong, living, you know, eating healthy, working out, being a good father,
00:29:45.580
They, I would say that a lot of the people in that camp look at that as the exact way
00:29:53.260
I would say that's kind of, that's probably a safe assumption.
00:29:56.260
What if that was being shoved down their throats?
00:29:58.300
What if every time they got on Netflix, it was nothing but muscles and, and father and
00:30:04.360
And which, by the way, this is absolutely asinine that this is the conversation right now, that
00:30:09.440
But I was going to say, I think that's actually what we should be doing.
00:30:13.100
We should, we actually should be pushing that to people and helping them understand that
00:30:17.640
traditional values is a better way of living for yourself and other people.
00:30:24.100
But my thing is like, if you were, if that was the case, right, what all of those people,
00:30:28.080
I feel like would be doing the exact same thing.
00:30:30.440
And it's the same rat wheel that we're in with every single issue that seems to exist in
00:30:35.160
And so my whole thing is like, is there a way to compromise?
00:30:38.820
Is there a way to, because, because again, if you, if you consider what I said in the
00:30:42.800
beginning about good and evil, right, I truly believe that aside from, you know, things
00:30:48.480
like sexualizing children, aside, aside from things like mutilating children, killing unborn
00:30:55.580
children, I think other than those things, right, when it comes to just lifestyle choices
00:31:00.220
that I may not, that I may not agree with, it doesn't make that person a bad person.
00:31:08.200
But I think the biggest difference or the one thing that still divides us is the awareness
00:31:12.900
of what really is evil and, and what that true agenda is, because that, that agenda is
00:31:20.800
It's not just against some of us, it's against all of us.
00:31:23.440
And I think, like you said, there's a, you know, there's a, there's kind of a veil that's
00:31:31.720
pulled over people's eyes right now where they can't see it because it's so subtle and
00:31:36.900
Um, and it just, it, it kind of creeps up, right?
00:31:39.920
Slowly, they put it into the media, slowly, they put it into mainstream, um, the like, like
00:31:47.100
I mean, you literally watch nightly TV and you have, you have women that are, that are
00:31:51.340
basically stripping on a stage and there's probably four or five-year-olds watching this
00:31:55.920
Like the other night when we were watching the Superbowl, like my, my kids were in the
00:32:00.240
room and, and this performance is on and I'm like, they're humping the air.
00:32:04.580
Like, I don't want my kids to see this, but we've gotten to a place as society where not
00:32:08.620
only has it become acceptable, it's, it's become like the norm.
00:32:14.980
And that's, I think that's the evil that I'm talking about.
00:32:17.860
I think that's how you and I are on the same page as far as there is a clear evil and it
00:32:22.260
is very apparent, but I think some people just aren't aware of it either because they
00:32:25.820
don't, they don't want to believe that that's the truth or they're just so far down the road
00:32:30.880
at this point that they can't see the difference between good and evil.
00:32:35.880
Or they're just too nice and they're too much of pacifist.
00:32:39.120
I mean, I think this is where compromise actually is a detriment.
00:32:44.780
You know, there's some things that I'm not willing to compromise on and I'll be vocal
00:32:49.860
And the problem is, I think one of the problems is that too many men are willing to compromise
00:32:55.580
and they are willing to stay silent and they are willing to let things slide and let things
00:33:04.400
And can you imagine if millions of men decided, no, you know what?
00:33:18.520
But the minute you go over that line is where I get involved and there's consequences for
00:33:24.580
actions and there's not enough strong, moral, capable, bold, successful, independent men
00:33:34.700
You know, you're actually putting your money where your mouth is.
00:33:38.200
There's that needs to happen more enough with the compromise enough with the letting things
00:33:44.040
And let's start making a stand and actually standing up against this with courage, strength
00:33:53.420
I think, um, I think you're seeing more of that.
00:33:56.680
I do agree with you that not enough are, um, you know, the amount, the amount of, of blue
00:34:02.920
checks in my, in my views and in my likes and engagement that just never say a word, but
00:34:09.600
And, and, you know, they'll send a, they'll send a fist bump.
00:34:13.660
It's like, bro, you have, they'll send a private message.
00:34:18.160
And they have, you know, anywhere from 800,000 to 2 million.
00:34:21.760
And, and it's like, every time I get that, I'm like, restrict, I don't even want to talk
00:34:27.260
Like, I mean, what do these people worship at this point?
00:34:30.500
You know, do they worship and they idolize their money and their, their notoriety and
00:34:34.940
their fame and their accolades, or do they honor truth and righteousness and doing the
00:34:45.580
Unfortunately, there's not a lot of people who do.
00:34:47.080
It seems like, no, I think, I think, uh, it's, it's definitely fear.
00:34:52.660
Um, these people, especially the people that I just mentioned, like these people with great
00:34:57.040
influence that, that don't want to say anything.
00:34:58.800
The reason why is because they obviously fear to lose their endorsements or their position
00:35:04.900
And I think this is what I've been saying from the beginning.
00:35:06.900
And the main reason why I decided to start speaking up in the first place is like, if you
00:35:10.660
don't speak up, you're going to lose it anyway.
00:35:13.160
If you don't, if you don't start raising awareness of this stuff, it's not going to matter.
00:35:17.360
It's literally not going to matter because eventually it's going to be ripped from your
00:35:20.400
hands and everything that you're fighting so hard to keep is going to be taken from
00:35:25.140
And, and that is something that I think a lot of people, even during this whole pandemic
00:35:29.920
thing, like all the people that were, that were trying to raise awareness of what was
00:35:34.080
They were, you know, I, I can't tell you how many times I've been called a racist or a
00:35:38.780
And I'm like, bro, I am the farthest from a freaking racist.
00:35:42.500
Like I, but anyway, the point is, I think, I think it's this people don't understand that
00:35:49.740
the ones that are speaking up and the ones that are actually standing up, it's not just
00:35:56.040
Cause I want my kids to live in a safe world and I want them to live in a world where they
00:35:59.060
don't have to question whether or not they're a boy or a girl when they're four years old.
00:36:02.080
You know, and I, I want my, my, my kids to feel like, you know, like, like they're safe.
00:36:08.160
And, um, that's obviously the biggest reason that I do what I do.
00:36:12.300
But at the end of the day too, it's also because, you know, I truly care about people.
00:36:16.200
Like I, I want our country to, to be a thriving and successful and amazing country that offers
00:36:27.760
And, and that's why, you know, that's why America is, is what it is.
00:36:32.340
And I, you know, I always get the, I always get asked the question, like, did you serve?
00:36:38.580
I have friends and family who are, but I've never personally served, but my conviction
00:36:43.340
actually comes from the time that I spent, um, I spent a little over two years in Nicaragua.
00:36:48.380
And let me tell you, man, um, that is what I believe gave me such a love and, and, and
00:36:58.780
I mean, when you, when you wake up every single day on a dirt floor in a, in a sheet metal
00:37:04.760
house and you don't have a shower, but you have a 50 gallon barrel in the back that fills
00:37:09.280
with rainwater, a bowl and a giant piece of soap.
00:37:12.380
And you don't know whether or not you're going to have electricity for half the day, or you're
00:37:20.360
It makes you really start to think, damn, dude, I have it good.
00:37:24.140
And, and not only do I have a good, but, um, I need to take advantage of how good I have
00:37:30.400
it and, and not only create opportunity for me and my family, but do it for as many people
00:37:35.760
Um, and there's not enough people that have suffered or struggled that way.
00:37:42.420
I think that is the biggest key because you have all these people that are constantly complaining
00:37:46.440
about the way things are, you know, like the, the, whether they're celebrities or just,
00:37:51.960
you know, people in general, younger people, whatever, they're constantly complaining.
00:37:56.480
Like I have, I have to work for six hours and I'm making $20 an hour, like boo-hoo, right?
00:38:02.980
They don't have even the faintest clue what it would be like to be dropped into a third
00:38:10.420
And every single one of them would be in a ball, crying their eyes out, begging for someone
00:38:19.120
And, and you're right though, the reason why that it's so easy to be a victim, the reason
00:38:25.840
And the reason why it's so easy to not be grateful for everything we have is because
00:38:31.680
They've never experienced what it's like to not have those things.
00:38:34.840
And I know, I know there's people in the country that have grown up in, in hard circumstances.
00:38:39.160
I'm one of them, you know, but let's be honest, guys, we don't live like a third world country.
00:38:45.220
We don't have the situation that some of these people have.
00:38:49.640
You know, we don't have, dude, I, I will never forget.
00:38:52.880
There was an experience one time when I was down there where we would, we would go eat
00:39:06.800
And, and so I would go, or we would, we would go and eat with these families and they would
00:39:11.020
Well, we went to this one family that, that offered to feed us that week.
00:39:19.140
There was four trees and there was probably a hundred plastic shopping bags that were tied
00:39:27.340
And they were basically, that was their walls around the trees.
00:39:36.420
It was just two, it was four trees and shopping bags.
00:39:39.840
And, and then they had a, like a Coleman camping stove and that's what they cooked on.
00:39:45.160
And that was in the middle of their dirt tree fort without a roof.
00:39:51.840
And when we got there, they were cooking two hard boiled eggs and that was their food.
00:39:57.860
And, uh, they had a family, it was a family of five, by the way.
00:40:03.160
So we sat down and they gave me and the guy I was with, they call them companions.
00:40:08.680
Um, they gave us an entire hard boiled egg, the entire thing.
00:40:13.100
And then they ate the other one between the five of them.
00:40:17.420
But the craziest thing was, uh, as we were talking, I realized that they had like left
00:40:26.240
And they had like wrapped it up and put it on the side.
00:40:28.320
Um, and, um, later I found out when I asked my companion, cause he was more, you know,
00:40:35.620
I asked him, I said, what, why did they do that?
00:40:37.400
He said, well, that was the rest of their food for the week, the week, the week.
00:40:46.760
I'll, I will never, as long as I live, forget that experience because those people were not
00:40:52.180
I mean, they were suffering, but they weren't showing a sign of suffering.
00:41:06.560
It's like, it makes me emotional every time because I'm just like, people have no clue how
00:41:12.300
They, they don't have any idea what America actually provides and what opportunities we
00:41:20.500
Um, and how hard we should all be fighting for that every time it is, it is questioned
00:41:28.800
All right, man, let me take a step back from the conversation real quick.
00:41:33.060
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00:41:39.440
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00:41:47.540
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00:41:52.400
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00:42:00.280
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00:42:38.120
Yeah, I think, I think, uh, one of the challenges is we've created this incredible abundance and
00:42:47.920
prosperity and that has its own challenges and threats and struggle.
00:42:56.140
And what it is, is that everybody has too much to lose.
00:43:00.700
You've got a house, you've probably got three or four cars for two drivers.
00:43:05.660
You, we, you know, we have food storage, like we're not saving half an egg for the rest of the
00:43:11.500
We have pantries and basements full of water and food store.
00:43:16.220
I mean, just the level of abundance that we have, we don't want to sacrifice that.
00:43:21.720
And sometimes I think we believe that rocking the boat puts that at risk and it does, but
00:43:27.860
also, so does not rocking the boat and just letting things be the way they are.
00:43:33.480
Cause somebody is always going to be after what we have.
00:43:37.160
And I, and I also would just say, I think, um, I think one of the biggest responsibilities
00:43:43.380
that we have, and I say responsibility because I've, it's responsibility obligation, even
00:43:56.360
It's, it's to show the world what is possible with this kind of opportunity, because it inspires
00:44:03.040
And every single one of us should be doing everything we possibly can to be that example,
00:44:11.380
And there's too many people that are willing to not only allow other people to do that,
00:44:15.720
but they just, they don't, they're just, it's, it's, there's so much apathy to, to greatness
00:44:21.940
And, and, um, that's what this country provides.
00:44:31.300
I, I have people that'll literally attack me all the time because of my business, you
00:44:34.420
know, all your, your grifter, this, that, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
00:44:37.660
And it's like, dude, if you only knew how much easier my life would be if I wasn't building
00:44:44.060
this business, like what is there, what, what are they, uh, I don't understand.
00:44:48.680
What, what are they, what are they, well, well, so for,
00:44:53.860
And so people who it's so funny because anybody who is in the military, when they meet me,
00:44:58.280
they're like, thank you so much for what you're doing.
00:44:59.940
But people that aren't in the military, of course, they're going to say, oh, you're just
00:45:02.840
taking advantage of, you know, you're not, you're not supposed to be patriotic because
00:45:15.920
You're going to get attacked if you're doing something great.
00:45:17.640
And if you're not getting attacked and you're not doing it right.
00:45:19.640
But, but my thing is like, people have no clue what it takes to build and run a business
00:45:29.120
Like, especially right now, especially with how things are right now with our economy,
00:45:32.460
people just, they don't have the, the, the, the faintest idea.
00:45:36.960
And to be honest, neither did I, until I really got, got going with this.
00:45:39.920
And I have taught myself everything along the way.
00:45:42.940
But the amount of resiliency that it takes to build something like this.
00:45:46.160
And when you have people come out of the woodworks and say, Oh man, you have it so easy.
00:45:49.460
It's like, bro, it's just, it's like, it's just lack of understanding.
00:45:55.160
I think in lack of, uh, people just want to be angry, dude.
00:45:59.680
And, and, and they just, you know, they want to create problems where there aren't problems.
00:46:03.660
And that's, that's one of the biggest issues that we have.
00:46:08.860
I think we end up lending these people too much credit.
00:46:11.720
You know, you were talking earlier about some of these people who might call you a racist
00:46:18.060
And, you know, we, we tend to, as people who are not, uh, you want to defend yourself against
00:46:26.120
Here's all my black friends, you know, and that's really cringy for sure.
00:46:32.500
Or I'm not, I'm not a homophobe because you know, my, my cousin's gay.
00:46:36.220
Like, that's what people say, you know what, that's the, that is an improper response to
00:46:42.440
The proper response is either nothing or you're an idiot.
00:46:47.900
I really don't care if you call me a homophobe.
00:46:49.960
I really don't care if you think I'm a, like you said, a grifter or you don't like my business
00:46:56.260
Your opinion of me holds zero weight, zero relevancy and zero credibility.
00:47:02.380
And I just am no longer interested in engaging with somebody or trying to defend myself against
00:47:12.480
And, and that right there, that right there is, is actually one of the most powerful statements
00:47:18.460
Like the minute that, because I think every single one of us have, we, at some point we're
00:47:23.980
in a place where we allow that to have a lot of influence over our life, whether it's,
00:47:27.660
you know, we allow it to get to us or whatever.
00:47:29.680
But I think every single one of us, when we realize that the opinions of others doesn't
00:47:37.900
matter, even, even in the slightest, that's where I feel like we can actually start to
00:47:44.200
And I say that because I personally am the one I've experienced that.
00:47:46.840
Like the minute that I stopped giving anybody any power over me, as far as their opinions
00:47:52.240
went, especially people that had no, no like significance in my life whatsoever.
00:47:56.500
The minute that I realized that I was giving them too much power and I stopped, it changed
00:48:03.060
It not only changed the circles that I was in, but it changed, it changed the entire trajectory
00:48:09.180
And if more people understood that, I believe that we would have a hell of a lot more successful
00:48:14.220
entrepreneurs, a lot more people that were out just freaking crushing life.
00:48:17.620
But we allow ourselves to get so caught up in the opinions of others that we forget the
00:48:25.000
And I would say the people that are closest to us, our kids, our wife, like those are at
00:48:30.940
And I've told people this all day, even some of my best friends, it's like, I don't really
00:48:36.300
What I care is what I think about myself, what my wife thinks about me and what my kids think
00:48:40.900
At the end of the day, that's all I really care about.
00:48:45.660
There's real power to that because the flip side, it encompasses and it engulfs everything
00:48:53.460
in your life when you allow it to, especially people like us that have platforms, you know
00:49:07.140
And the minute that we realized, like you said, that it just, it doesn't matter.
00:49:12.660
Like I, uh, I, anytime somebody comes at me, I always like to post that meme from, or
00:49:17.840
the, uh, I forget what, Thanos, you know, he says, I don't even know who you are.
00:49:25.820
Why am I giving them any kind of power over me at all?
00:49:33.300
You're just, you're, you're directing your resources towards something that, that doesn't
00:49:37.300
You know, one of my questions that I get quite often is because I talk about some of
00:49:42.540
the same things you do and, and, and the, uh, the implications on society as a whole,
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if we continue down some of these paths and one question that constantly gets brought up
00:49:50.480
and it's a good question is what do we do about it specifically?
00:49:54.600
And, and when they're asking that, they're asking what they as men need to do specifically
00:50:00.580
to begin to turn the tide of these cultural battles that we see in different places.
00:50:05.540
What, what are some of the things on a strategic or tactical level that men can do to begin
00:50:15.000
So, man, I, and I get this question all the time too, because it's like, what can we really
00:50:19.920
And, um, you know, Andy for still says it's all the time.
00:50:24.640
He says, excellence is the ultimate rebellion, right?
00:50:27.580
And to just quote that and use that, like, that is the truth, man.
00:50:30.980
The, the best thing that you can do, especially as a man right now is put yourself in a position
00:50:36.680
to be everything that, that you're, that nowadays you're not supposed to be right.
00:50:42.160
Be strong, be healthy, be capable, be dangerous, be successful, be filthy, rich, be everything
00:50:50.060
that, that it seems like is being attacked right now.
00:50:55.320
Like find a way to put yourself in the physical, emotional, mental, financial, spiritual position
00:51:04.140
Um, and that like, that's what I'm doing every single day.
00:51:08.040
I mean, it's a, it's a constant journey for sure, but like chip away at that.
00:51:12.020
And I think that that's the best thing we can do because, you know, everybody wants to
00:51:15.320
talk about, well, you know, there's going to be a physical revolution and all the, all
00:51:18.400
the dudes out there with their freaking, you know, skull masks.
00:51:21.460
But it's like, dude, we need a cultural revolution.
00:51:29.620
I think that the, like eating healthy and, and being strong and being a good father and
00:51:34.880
being a good provider and women being good nurturers and, and all these things that, that
00:51:40.880
really are what it takes to have a very successful society.
00:51:44.700
Quite frankly, those are the things that should be pushed.
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And if they're not going to push it, and what I mean by there, I mean like the mainstream
00:51:51.400
media and the, you know, the corporations that stand to gain from the opposite, then
00:51:55.320
we, as a people need to come together and decide enough is enough and do it individually.
00:52:00.680
One person at a time, one community at a time, one family at a time, one community at
00:52:04.940
a time, one city at like, it's gotta come from us, but it's, it's not going to happen
00:52:12.940
Um, and it's not going to happen with these traditional measures that everybody, you know,
00:52:20.460
It's going to happen when we actually get out there and do what it takes to become physically
00:52:26.460
When we learn how to fight, when we learn how to, when we learn how to train, right.
00:52:30.380
Or when we train, I should say, um, when we put ourselves in a position to be what
00:52:38.000
And presiders and what I like to add to that is patriots.
00:52:41.880
Um, because that's really what I think it's going to take for there to be a difference.
00:52:47.180
And there just has to be enough men and I'm not discounting women, but it's important that
00:52:53.000
there's enough men that stand up and, and take their lives back and do those things and
00:52:59.840
start focusing on, on being the strong, capable provider that we should be, which is, again,
00:53:14.040
The answer is that we, as men take everything back collectively.
00:53:19.180
Um, sometimes it's hard because it, it doesn't seem like it's enough.
00:53:25.400
You know, a lot of guys are like, ah, man, if I change, like me changing, that's going to
00:53:31.540
You know, I've talked openly about my struggles with alcohol and, you know, I, I, I had no
00:53:37.100
problem explaining and sharing what other guys should do and how we could be better.
00:53:40.480
And then I'm like, wait a second, I have my own problems and I need to make sure I address
00:53:48.040
And I'm realizing, of course, not realizing I always knew this, but I'm actually putting
00:53:52.980
into practice and action that that behavior is not going to help me become the man that
00:54:02.380
That's going to allow me to be able to protect and take care of my family.
00:54:05.900
Not, not being able to understand how business or marketing or sales work is not going to
00:54:14.120
That's going to help our family become financially independent.
00:54:18.940
There's little things, there's little skeletons that we all have in our closets that we might
00:54:23.200
want to open up every once in a while and take a look at and get those skeletons out
00:54:31.100
Then when you do that, you're more able to help your neighbor, help a friend do the same
00:54:36.000
thing, help a brother, a father do the same thing.
00:54:38.500
And if millions of us are doing this, it's going to spur on millions and millions of more
00:54:45.220
And you actually touched on something that's so important, man.
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Um, this is actually something that I even focus on, you know, with my, with my coach.
00:54:53.200
So aside from my business, I also do some coaching.
00:54:55.380
Um, and when I focus on really, really heavily is what it's what made the difference for me,
00:55:01.040
which, which is figuring out what is holding me back.
00:55:05.720
And I know that that's like cliche and that, well, yeah, okay.
00:55:08.740
No, but there's more to it because the truth is we all have, um, we all have anchors, if
00:55:14.680
you will, okay, that we, and they're formed by experiences that we have, we have traumatic
00:55:19.760
experiences throughout our lives, whatever that may be, whether it's when we were three
00:55:23.960
years old, you know, we witnessed something with our parents that just scarred us for life,
00:55:28.300
or we had a bad breakup when we were 16 and it ingrained in our minds that I'll never
00:55:33.000
be good enough unless I do X, Y, and Z, whatever it is, these experiences that all of
00:55:37.940
us have, which by the way, all of us have, I actually put this comment on your, on your
00:55:41.840
post today that you did, because it's so important.
00:55:44.300
The minute that you start realizing that everyone has skeletons in their closet and no one is
00:55:48.760
bulletproof is the minute that you actually are willing to not only open up, but you can
00:55:52.600
actually start to work on yourself because all of, especially men, like we're so guarded.
00:55:57.440
We're so, we're so, um, it's, you know, like a lot of us don't want to be emotional.
00:56:02.760
A lot of us don't want to open up about the vulnerabilities that we have, but it's like, dude,
00:56:09.460
And so what I focus on with, with my, with my coaching group is like, lift those anchors
00:56:16.320
up because what those, what those anchors, what those experiences do is they literally
00:56:28.280
She's, she struggled with a lot of issues throughout her life.
00:56:30.760
Um, she was, she's, she's literally paranoid schizophrenic.
00:56:34.020
Um, I haven't talked to her for years and years and years, but when I was 16, she left,
00:56:40.140
And at the time I was, I don't think I was old enough to really understand the impact
00:56:46.140
And I had my, I had my dad and I had my step-mom and I was really close.
00:56:49.500
And so I, it sounds terrible, but I want to say that it, as a 16 year old, I was able
00:56:55.380
to bounce back because I had dealt with a lot of things up to that point anyway.
00:56:59.000
And so it didn't make a huge impact at that point in time.
00:57:02.260
However, as I became an adult, when I was, you know, this is literally after I got married
00:57:08.820
and, and we, and I, I decided I wanted to see a counselor because I felt like I had something
00:57:16.140
And I was like, I got to figure out what this is.
00:57:17.540
And I just, I have to be strong enough to go and talk to somebody.
00:57:21.020
And that person helped me understand that that one experience became an anchor and, and created
00:57:27.560
a literal lens that I was then seeing the world from, which was, I am not chosen.
00:57:36.120
They're going to choose something else because, because I told myself subconsciously that my
00:57:44.460
And dude, that affected my entire life up until the point that I sat down on that couch and
00:57:50.420
To the point where every relationship prior to my wife was destroyed because of that,
00:57:55.240
to the point where I never actually went hard in business, or I was, I was a salesman.
00:58:03.580
I was, I was super talented, but I never did the extra, the extra work to be the best
00:58:12.100
And the minute that I pulled that anchor up out of the sand and the minute that I took those
00:58:16.500
freaking glasses off for the first time, it was like, holy crap.
00:58:21.320
This is why, like, this is why I am, I have been where I have been.
00:58:31.580
Cause you just realize, okay, that's, it's completely false.
00:58:35.460
And so I would say, I want to answer your question a little bit better, actually, when
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you said, what are some things that men can do?
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Number one, figure out what crap is hiding under the floorboards.
00:58:45.320
I don't care if it means you got to go see a counselor.
00:58:47.180
I don't care if it'd be like, it doesn't matter.
00:58:48.660
Just figure it out because I promise you it's there.
00:58:51.160
And if you haven't figured it out yet, there's, it's the reason, in my opinion, this isn't,
00:58:55.800
you know, fact, but my opinion is that is the reason why you are more than likely sitting
00:59:00.100
where you're sitting right now thinking I want more.
00:59:03.700
It's because you're not, it's, it's your own damn fault.
00:59:07.280
And the minute that you pull those floorboards up and you realize what's going on,
00:59:10.440
is the minute you're going to say, Oh, Oh, okay.
00:59:17.800
The next thing is obviously workout and everything.
00:59:20.100
But another thing that a lot of people don't like to talk about, that's, that's very taboo.
00:59:23.560
I feel like is the levels of testosterone right now with men.
00:59:28.580
And I'm not just talking about like 30 year olds.
00:59:36.540
It was, I'd have to pull it up, but it was like the testosterone levels in men has gone
00:59:40.600
down like 40% since 2001 or something like that.
00:59:43.880
And the amount of men that I have talked to and worked with where they have gone and gotten
00:59:48.540
their blood work done and figured out where their test levels are, dude, it would, it would
00:59:53.980
I had the test levels of a 65 year old man and I was 34.
00:59:57.320
Mine, I think, so I'm 41, my testosterone levels about, about a year ago were right around
01:00:08.380
And part of that was alcohol and there's some, you know, but being overweight, sedentary, that
01:00:14.060
sort of thing, you know, there's things, but it's not, but it's not just that dude.
01:00:17.240
It's not just that it's the stress it's, it's all of the things that, that are being pushed
01:00:23.460
And, um, the crazy thing is you'll go into a normal doctor and the doctor will say, if
01:00:37.300
Especially if you're a healthy man that works out and that lives an otherwise healthy lifestyle.
01:00:41.960
Like you should not be feeling like you can't get up and play with your kids at seven o'clock
01:00:46.580
at night, which is where, you know, where, which is where I was.
01:00:49.740
So that's the next thing is I would say, go get your blood levels checked and figure out
01:00:53.020
where the hell your test is, because I promise you it's going to make a massive difference.
01:00:56.320
And then the other thing I would say is just, again, just train like not enough men are
01:01:01.140
And I'll be honest, I'm, I'm, I'm not innocent when it came to, you know, two years ago, I
01:01:05.320
wasn't, I wasn't training either, but this last year or so I've really decided, okay,
01:01:08.760
I'm going to train and I'm not going to just know how to shoot a gun.
01:01:11.340
I'm going to know how to actually protect my family.
01:01:13.360
If someone breaks in my house, you know, I'm going to get tactical and I'm going to understand
01:01:19.980
And, and, um, that's something that is super important right now because there's going to
01:01:28.240
I'm just saying, I don't know when that is, but it's going to come.
01:01:31.520
Um, and so I would say that health, you know, become dangerous, get tactical train lift.
01:01:39.100
Um, and, and, uh, and the other thing I would just say is, is have some grace with yourself.
01:01:48.720
Like all of us are, all of us are bombarded with all kinds of things, especially if you're
01:01:53.920
an entrepreneur and I'm just talking because I'm talking to myself, right?
01:01:57.840
Every single one of us have to have more grace with ourselves and, and, and realize we can't
01:02:04.480
And it's all about just those little wins every single day.
01:02:10.560
If you make it home on time and you're able to hang out with your kids before they go
01:02:15.500
If you send a text to your wife and you tell her you love her and you tell her she's beautiful
01:02:22.920
And that way, every time the loses come, the losses come around, you're going to be able
01:02:29.900
In my opinion is when you start to just view the world from I'm winning, I'm always winning.
01:02:36.300
The fact that I was able to put this together, that's a win.
01:02:41.000
Not enough men are stacking their wins and too many people are stacking the losses.
01:02:46.320
And that also gives you, I was going to say, it also gives you faith in yourself.
01:02:52.100
You know, a lot of guys don't have faith in themselves.
01:02:53.740
Like you're talking about grace, which of course is, is crucial, but also have some faith.
01:02:58.340
You know, maybe you're in the gutter right now.
01:03:00.420
Maybe you're struggling with a divorce or, or a health scare or some financial struggles.
01:03:14.880
You've always been able to put food on the table and a roof over your head.
01:03:20.080
Like those are so many, like you said, wins that you should build upon.
01:03:25.980
Have some faith that you're going to get through whatever you are now.
01:03:32.760
It, I think, um, someone, someone asked me the other day, what I think has made the biggest
01:03:41.860
difference in my life, because those that have, that have followed me for a long time,
01:03:47.100
you know, prior to all this, I had a career in sales.
01:03:51.280
So I've, I've family members, friends, followers, whatever.
01:03:56.280
That's been kind of along that journey for now, about nine years.
01:03:59.640
And they said, what dude, what is the biggest difference?
01:04:02.100
Because literally in the last two or three years, you have made a complete one 80, like
01:04:05.600
you're not who you used to be in any way, shape or form.
01:04:09.180
Um, and the answer was something that I, it kind of, it kind of surprised me, honestly.
01:04:14.620
But what I said was, it kind of goes back to what I said before about how I stopped caring
01:04:18.440
what other people thought about me, but it was more than that.
01:04:20.840
It was, I stopped, I stopped comparing or trying to compete with other people.
01:04:25.960
You know, I, for most of my adult life, I was in the, I was in a door-to-door sales industry.
01:04:31.500
I, I knocked for six years and then I, and then I was actually an executive and I built
01:04:36.900
But dude, the amount, the amount of, of competitive, um, energy that existed in that, in that industry
01:04:47.460
to the point where it was like, you're just constantly trying to prove yourself.
01:04:54.680
It's, I stopped trying to prove myself to anyone.
01:04:58.260
I like, I stopped, I just realized I don't need to prove myself to anyone.
01:05:04.300
Like, all I need to do is prove to myself that I'm capable.
01:05:10.000
I already know that I'm capable of doing whatever the hell I want to do because I've
01:05:14.660
And it's, and I know this all sounds like, you know, cliche and storybook and like coachy
01:05:20.020
or whatever, but I'm telling you, there's a reason why people say these things that are
01:05:23.500
It's because you get to a point where you just realized that you're just like, I like
01:05:29.460
the talents and the skills and the abilities that I have been blessed with since birth that
01:05:34.240
I am able to, I just didn't say it's a birth since, since very young, whatever, right.
01:05:37.720
That I've been able to develop and lean into and then create opportunity with, those are
01:05:42.980
the things that I will always have to lean back on.
01:05:45.940
And if I just keep doing everything I've always done, I'm going to be wildly successful.
01:05:51.080
And then people that are wildly successful are going to find their way into my circle and
01:05:56.900
And I'm telling you that that all stems from the point where you stop trying to prove yourself
01:06:10.120
Well, brother, Hey, tell the guys where to learn more about you personally, what you're
01:06:15.720
Also Patriot, uh, and we're going to link it all up.
01:06:18.800
So the guys know where to go, but I'd love them to be able to connect with you.
01:06:22.180
So I'll tell you a little bit about the company really quick.
01:06:23.640
Um, I, I run a company called official Patriot gear.
01:06:26.020
If you guys have ever seen the like distressed Patriot logo on people's t-shirts and stuff,
01:06:32.740
We're just trying to do our best to remind people that Patriotism is not partisan is
01:06:43.560
You want it to be free and you're willing to defend those things.
01:06:48.840
And, and, you know, going back to what we said before, I believe that that is one of the
01:06:53.320
biggest reasons why I've kind of dug my heels in there is because when you talk about
01:06:57.020
how to make the good aware of the evil, I think once we all realize that every single
01:07:01.700
one of us, aside from a select few want the best for our people in our country and love
01:07:08.280
the country that we live in, that Patriotism actually has the ability to unite us, you
01:07:12.380
know, look at nine 12, right after nine 11, it didn't matter who you were standing next
01:07:26.500
Um, we also have an Instagram, the official Patriot gear.
01:07:29.320
And then my personal Instagram is really where people know me from or follow me.
01:07:37.480
Um, and, uh, I do pretty much everything on there right now.
01:07:41.240
I'm, we're starting to build out like YouTube and other platforms and things, but right now
01:07:48.060
And then, uh, and then I also run my coaching group, the free collective.
01:07:52.860
We have about 85 members, um, you know, jump in there if you want to.
01:07:57.880
It's, it's, uh, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a different experience than you're going to
01:08:03.600
So yeah, that's, that's me in a nutshell, dude.
01:08:08.340
Your message has inspired me to, to be a little bit more vocal about the things I believe.
01:08:11.940
And I think this is going to be good fuel for other men to do the same.
01:08:22.320
My conversation with Ian went, my, my hope on this one is that it inspires you to speak
01:08:27.320
up, to speak out, to put your money where your mouth is, to serve in your community,
01:08:32.960
to talk about these issues that too many people are unwilling to talk about because they don't
01:08:47.660
And we got to start shoveling that water out and fixing the holes in the boat.
01:08:51.940
Because if we're not willing to do that, we're all going to drown.
01:08:57.480
So guys, if there's an issue that's on your mind, if there's a problem that you see in
01:09:01.820
society, please use this podcast and Ian's message to go out and do something about it,
01:09:08.700
to serve in your community, put your money where your mouth is, start investing, start
01:09:11.740
talking, and let's draw attention to these problems.
01:09:17.220
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01:09:32.820
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