Order of Man - May 16, 2018


ITT 011: Execution of Discipline | Cody Duffney


Episode Stats

Length

16 minutes

Words per Minute

191.0536

Word Count

3,209

Sentence Count

161

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

In this episode of In the Trenches, host Bubba Downs is joined by Cody Duffney to discuss his journey to becoming the man he is meant to be. In this episode, the guys discuss how Cody took a month off of work to take care of his family and how he was able to find the strength in his marriage.


Transcript

00:00:00.040 Gentlemen, welcome to In the Trenches, an Order of Man podcast dedicated to interviewing
00:00:04.360 ordinary, everyday men like you and me who are currently in the battle of becoming better
00:00:08.840 men.
00:00:09.460 You'll hear the good, the bad, and the ugly from guys who are striving to become stronger
00:00:13.680 husbands, fathers, business owners, and community leaders.
00:00:17.580 It's our mission to deliver the stories that will inspire you to become the man you are
00:00:21.620 meant to be.
00:00:22.320 Your host for this podcast is a man who is not only in the trenches, but has drastically
00:00:26.920 changed his life for the better over the past two years.
00:00:29.260 Here's Mr. Bubba Downs.
00:00:32.740 What's up, guys?
00:00:33.620 Bubba here, back with In the Trenches.
00:00:35.220 Today, I'm joined by Cody Duffney.
00:00:36.780 What's up, brother?
00:00:38.200 Not much.
00:00:38.640 What's going on with you?
00:00:39.420 It's going, man.
00:00:40.160 It's going.
00:00:40.940 So tell me, man, what are you working on right now?
00:00:44.400 Working on right now, today is Sunday.
00:00:46.360 I've been doing the honey-do list.
00:00:48.100 So I've been cleaning, moving stuff, spraying for bugs, just doing normal weekend activities.
00:00:54.680 Yeah.
00:00:56.060 Right on.
00:00:56.580 So what are you working on in your life is kind of what I was alluding to there.
00:01:00.440 Oh, right now I'm working on career recovery, working on intercommunication with my spouse.
00:01:08.000 And I've done a lot of self-reflection over the past month and trying to make sure I'm
00:01:11.220 filling the gaps I've discovered in myself.
00:01:13.840 Yeah.
00:01:14.040 How'd you go about finding those gaps?
00:01:16.600 I was able to take a month off from my family through work.
00:01:20.100 So I spent a month away from my family and it gave me time to just simply sit there every night,
00:01:24.500 analyze what I thought I was doing wrong, what I thought I was doing right, and trying
00:01:28.740 to make the two meet more frequently.
00:01:31.480 So having the time away meant I didn't have to necessarily worry about the normal day-to-day
00:01:36.240 tasks that you'll see in your normal relationship because it was mostly a satellite relationship
00:01:41.680 for a month.
00:01:42.240 So whatever you're sitting there by yourself with your thoughts, man, what did that process
00:01:47.220 look like for you to find where you were lacking and where you were strong?
00:01:52.960 What did that process look like for you, man?
00:01:55.720 Well, as you know, based on our previous conversations, I was able to go through some really challenging
00:02:03.380 stuff at work and a lot of the overarching problems that led to failures at work were
00:02:09.020 also failures I could identify in my life.
00:02:10.940 So I had a pretty good base of mistakes I had made.
00:02:15.200 And as far as looking internally, my wife and I are really straightforward with one another.
00:02:21.040 So there's no pulling punches.
00:02:23.040 There's no sugarcoating.
00:02:24.120 She tells me where I fuck up and I fix it or I look at it.
00:02:27.160 So I took the time to really look back at previous conversations and try to not skip any
00:02:33.840 of the details there.
00:02:34.840 So if she said, hey, this happened, I didn't like what this result was, I had to figure
00:02:39.740 out, okay, this was a problem.
00:02:41.400 What was the underlying issue that caused it?
00:02:44.300 Does that issue cause more problems?
00:02:46.960 And kind of almost build like one of those conspiracy spiderwebs in my mind and trace
00:02:53.060 them all back.
00:02:53.680 So I had like four or five key details I was able to really fix and say, okay, these are
00:02:57.500 areas I definitely need to focus on.
00:02:58.900 And it will bring benefit to my personal life and my professional life.
00:03:03.760 When you were going through that spiderweb, man, what was one thing that really stuck out
00:03:07.920 to you that you needed to fix?
00:03:11.140 Uh, I want to say discipline, but not in that I don't have it.
00:03:18.200 I think that I rely on the idea of discipline too much without actually the execution of discipline.
00:03:24.500 So like I have discipline in a lot of areas of my life, but believing that the discipline
00:03:32.320 carries over to every aspect is a, is a falsity.
00:03:35.040 So I had to really look at it and say, okay, this discipline failure point is when I'm trying
00:03:40.200 to do this activity.
00:03:41.080 Like I commit to this, but I don't follow through in this way.
00:03:44.700 Um, and that was one that I think overall can have huge effects in almost every area because
00:03:51.140 no discipline at work is going to affect your home life.
00:03:53.900 But just when I'm home, it's going to affect your work life and they work hand in hand.
00:03:57.460 So that was one of the ones I'm really trying to be dedicated in isolating time to, uh, putting
00:04:04.520 effort into it.
00:04:05.520 And how are you going to do that?
00:04:08.180 Uh, structured time, uh, daily schedule, trying to really get into a routine in the morning
00:04:13.740 that allows me to plan the rest of my day.
00:04:15.620 So although I can't necessarily say I'm going to have this much work done by this hour because
00:04:20.680 the army doesn't allow for such strict guidelines in your timeline, I can at least say, well,
00:04:25.980 before six 30 in the morning, when I had to be at work and after 4 PM, when I leave, how
00:04:30.880 am I going to really use this time adequately?
00:04:32.820 And then when I get to work, it's kind of take an inventory of what has to happen throughout
00:04:39.280 the day or what there is throughout the week or what's up to them throughout the month or
00:04:42.380 quarter and figure out how many of those goals can I accomplish in that day?
00:04:46.160 And how many of those goals can I work towards in that day?
00:04:49.600 So that every day is really being as productive as possible.
00:04:52.380 Uh, one of the things that really led to, uh, the downfall of work was complacency.
00:04:57.300 The idea that you can just sit on your phone and mess around till the end of the day.
00:05:01.000 Well, work has to get done.
00:05:02.620 And if you're not trying to improve yourself at work, you're going to fail.
00:05:06.500 Like there's too many skills in everybody's job as pair that are perishable.
00:05:09.920 And some of those skills need to be worked on far more frequently to avoid them, uh, you
00:05:14.600 know, failing in your mind and failing in your practice.
00:05:18.960 So you, you, you bring up your work a lot, man.
00:05:21.220 So let's talk a little bit about that.
00:05:22.820 I know that you recently went through some, some challenges at work.
00:05:25.780 Is that something you're willing to talk to me about?
00:05:28.240 Of course.
00:05:29.420 Lay it out there for us, man.
00:05:32.040 Uh, so it started way back in probably June of last year.
00:05:35.640 I challenged myself to try a new unit.
00:05:38.900 Um, in the EOD community, we don't have a lot of special units, but there is one within
00:05:43.760 my battalion that did work with special forces.
00:05:46.720 And I had not done that yet.
00:05:48.240 I had done 10 years of conventional work, which meant their house response for calls that
00:05:55.100 EOD may need to respond to bomb squad.
00:05:56.520 They need to respond to, um, going through almost a year of training.
00:06:04.160 I, not even just myself, but my colleagues and my superiors, uh, realized that there were
00:06:10.180 a lot of areas I needed to work on, um, because I got overconfident in my skills, having seniority
00:06:17.720 and seniority does not mean you necessarily know what you're doing if you can't show it
00:06:21.860 to everybody else.
00:06:22.760 So I could talk a good game, but when it came to actual practice, when the chips were down,
00:06:26.520 especially when I was stressed out or being observed by certain people, I couldn't perform.
00:06:31.700 Uh, and along with, I had a couple other failures outside of my execution of my tasks.
00:06:38.820 Um, I had some integrity violations, things I had done that were, they were, they were stupid.
00:06:47.460 They were, I took chances.
00:06:48.680 I took risks that were never meant that never needed to be taken.
00:06:51.420 And had I been better about prioritizing my time, prioritizing my finances, my personal
00:06:57.520 life, my work life would not have an impact as it was.
00:07:01.280 So, um, when it was all said and done, I was relieved of my position.
00:07:05.680 Uh, I had to go through an appeals process.
00:07:09.180 I got pulled out of my company.
00:07:10.820 So I kind of sat on the bench for almost four months, uh, waiting for resolution, which is
00:07:16.880 a lot of time to sit there and chew on all the mistakes that led up to it.
00:07:21.280 And now I'm on a rebuilding process.
00:07:24.380 So I have people that have faith in me and are willing to look at the mistake as, okay,
00:07:29.860 you made a mistake, but can you recover from it?
00:07:32.320 Um, one of my peers and someone I actually looked up to recently said, you can really
00:07:39.420 tell how important someone can be.
00:07:42.760 Uh, if they're a general piece of crap, then we just let them sit on the side, let them
00:07:48.400 phase out.
00:07:49.060 They'll go away eventually.
00:07:50.660 But if they like you, if they have faith in you and they respect you and you make a
00:07:54.160 mistake, they will hammer you immediately and then help you recover.
00:07:58.280 So I feel like even though I went through a lot of really bad, uh, choices on my end
00:08:02.940 and repercussions in the long run, the fact that I have so many people that are willing
00:08:08.920 to work with me, help me analyze my mistakes and move forward meant that I was at least
00:08:12.900 on the right track.
00:08:13.760 So now I'm just need to show everyone that it was not, uh, ill placed in their faith in
00:08:18.800 me.
00:08:19.460 Right.
00:08:20.240 So I know that all this went down before you joined the iron council.
00:08:23.960 How, how is, how has that brotherhood helped you get through this?
00:08:28.280 Oh man, there is just endless resources in the council.
00:08:32.500 Um, everything from just like what they sell you on the, on the website, like you get to
00:08:37.380 read a lot more books and you're going to be given a structure to help build your life
00:08:43.220 off of.
00:08:44.400 Um, that alone was a good starting point for me because I needed to have more organization
00:08:48.780 mentally and, and, and my practice of life.
00:08:51.660 So that helped a lot.
00:08:52.960 And then when you get into the council, the people you get to meet, the, the advice you
00:08:56.460 receive, the experts in every field, there isn't a single problem that I haven't gone
00:09:00.580 through that someone can't relate to, if not, hasn't actually gone through itself.
00:09:05.320 Um, and one thing that I liked really helped me with the council was the fact that there
00:09:10.840 are a bunch of guys you can talk to that.
00:09:13.660 Um, when I bring the problems to the table in a group of men that are also wanting to
00:09:18.060 improve, they want to improve people around them as well.
00:09:21.120 So I didn't have to necessarily go to my wife with all of my problems because my wife is
00:09:24.840 not my therapist.
00:09:25.440 I love her to death, but she's going to look at it through a very, a very small glass of
00:09:30.300 how she sees the world.
00:09:31.360 Um, when I come to the council, I get to have it looked at by seven, eight, nine, 10 different
00:09:36.180 guys with different inputs and different experiences to help look for a better solution.
00:09:42.040 Um, and sometimes it just, it validates, like I had a solution in my mind, but I hadn't put
00:09:48.880 it into practice yet.
00:09:50.000 And then you hear five other guys like, yeah, that's going to work.
00:09:52.200 You should do that.
00:09:53.880 Um, and just the general sense of brotherhood, knowing that you can rely on people across the
00:10:00.180 world that want to help you succeed is incredible.
00:10:04.320 Um, and the problem that I had with the military life was everyone I talked to in the military
00:10:09.720 essentially is a clone of one another.
00:10:11.960 We're all fairly alpha personalities.
00:10:14.140 We're all pretty aggressive and we all kind of have a similar, uh, mental take on almost
00:10:18.760 any problems and what the solutions we're going to provide.
00:10:22.320 So not wanting to be within that bubble, I left and I found a new group that has really
00:10:27.880 expanded my mind, how I look at the world and has helped me to, uh, recover and then
00:10:33.940 improve overall.
00:10:34.640 It sounds like you've, you've overcome some pretty significant hurdles in your professional
00:10:39.160 life.
00:10:39.540 How about your home life, man?
00:10:40.480 How has that been working for you?
00:10:43.460 The home life is getting better, uh, mainly because just the effect of not being really good
00:10:51.540 at being able to shut the door at work, come home and be home life, uh, separate from the
00:10:58.380 work life.
00:10:59.400 Um, but once there was a little bit of stability at work, coming home became less stressful.
00:11:05.060 Uh, there's still things we're working through and working towards, but, um, my wife is really
00:11:10.840 supportive of me, which is incredible.
00:11:13.400 Uh, and she's a self-starter, self-driven.
00:11:15.560 Um, so all I really had to do since was make sure that I was doing my part to be part of
00:11:22.300 the household.
00:11:23.520 Um, and she holds my feet to the fire just as much as the guys in the council do.
00:11:29.520 But a lot of the, uh, skills that you learn in the council, I really bled over into my personal
00:11:37.560 life.
00:11:37.940 So her and I are now on the fire, are finally on the same page in terms of finances and how
00:11:43.400 we're going to get from where we are now to debt free.
00:11:46.600 And it's, it's a good goal to have.
00:11:49.320 It's a good starting point.
00:11:50.140 And I think that going forward from here, there's going to be a lot more we can go to
00:11:53.780 work towards.
00:11:54.480 So finances come first.
00:11:55.780 And then from there, we're going to believe that over and say, okay, what else can we fix?
00:11:59.560 And, uh, what problems do we both see that we can analyze, we can fix, and we can improve
00:12:05.020 going forward.
00:12:05.680 Yeah, that, that clear and open communication, man, that's such a huge factor.
00:12:10.400 Whenever you're, you're trying to get things running, when you're trying to get a machine
00:12:14.440 to run up, run smoothly.
00:12:16.840 All right.
00:12:17.380 So brother, what has been your biggest takeaway since you kind of started this, this journey
00:12:21.520 that I know whenever you and I first started talking, you, you loved your, your, your military
00:12:27.160 brotherhood, you know, like you'd already said, but you noticed that everybody was kind
00:12:31.100 of heading the same direction and you wanted to think beyond that next level.
00:12:36.180 What's been your biggest takeaway as you've been working towards that next level?
00:12:42.560 The biggest takeaway is definitely the, I always forget the quote of you are the sum of
00:12:48.420 the four or five people you surround yourself with.
00:12:50.320 And if you surround yourself with people who always agree with you, you're never going
00:12:55.900 to grow.
00:12:57.120 And that comes from your relationship with your partner to people you work with, your
00:13:00.540 friends.
00:13:01.960 So now that I have people around me that also want to grow and also want to improve, it
00:13:08.580 makes my journey not necessarily easier, but it validates it.
00:13:13.560 You know, there are guys that have accomplished so much more than I have that I can look to
00:13:17.460 and say, okay, they did it.
00:13:18.640 They made it work.
00:13:19.340 I can do that as well.
00:13:20.740 And it's not just because I could run faster or do more pushups or push more weight.
00:13:25.120 These guys put in the time when it came to really, you know, recovering and overcoming
00:13:31.080 addictions or conquering family problems.
00:13:34.460 Like these are issues that every man can connect with.
00:13:37.040 And now that I have a brotherhood of guys that do that every day, or at least work towards
00:13:41.720 it, it really helps to cement that the work that I'm doing will have a problem.
00:13:47.060 It will have an outcome and it's going to be beneficial overall.
00:13:49.820 All right.
00:13:50.340 So guys, you guys all know that every week you get a challenge for my guest.
00:13:53.740 So Duff, you get to challenge the guys in the order of man to do something for one solid
00:13:59.360 week.
00:13:59.840 What is it you're going to challenge these guys to do?
00:14:01.700 I challenge the guys to look inward and realize that you're not always going to be the strongest
00:14:09.740 one in your household.
00:14:11.580 And to, when you do that, realize that there are people around you who are also going to
00:14:17.180 be the lighthouse.
00:14:17.900 They're going to help guide you and don't fight that.
00:14:21.580 It's okay to have points of weakness in your life and it's okay to not always be strong,
00:14:26.300 but realize that part of being strong is also admitting when you're going to be weak.
00:14:32.540 And honoring that part of yourself, it's the only way to improve.
00:14:36.060 If you keep battling the fact that you think you have to be strong all the time, every day
00:14:41.360 in and out, then the people around you aren't going to have a chance to grow and you're going
00:14:46.860 to shut off parts of yourself that need to be dealt with.
00:14:50.220 So I challenge every guy to realize throughout this week that there are going to be points
00:14:53.580 of weakness to figure out how to overcome that weakness, but to honor it, to realize it,
00:14:59.360 to accept it, and to move forward with that without fighting it every step of the way.
00:15:04.440 There you go, guys.
00:15:05.340 There's your challenge for the week.
00:15:06.460 Let's see those in the Order of Man Facebook group with the hashtag in the trenches.
00:15:11.620 All right, brother.
00:15:12.300 So I got one more question for you, and this is one that I did not prepare you for.
00:15:15.500 What does it mean to be a man?
00:15:20.660 Being a man is showing integrity, it's showing discipline, and it's showing bravery, knowing
00:15:29.880 that you are being looked at all the time, whether it's from your children, your spouse, your
00:15:35.340 friends, and every action you have is going to impact their image of you, and the way people
00:15:42.440 feel about you is going to impact how you feel about yourself.
00:15:45.600 So doing the right thing, being the right guy, standing up for what you believe in, honoring
00:15:53.040 that there are injustices in this world, and you can do something to help them or combat them,
00:15:59.880 and generally just being a man, I mean, I can't say much more than that.
00:16:06.520 Right on, brother.
00:16:07.800 All right, Duff, man.
00:16:08.980 We're coming up on time, and I do appreciate you joining me today.
00:16:12.560 We'll catch you around, man.
00:16:14.220 I appreciate it.
00:16:14.780 Thank you very much.
00:16:15.480 Yes, sir.
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00:16:36.320 Until next week, take action and become the man you are meant to be.
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