Order of Man - JIM KWIK ｜ Upgrade Your Brain

00:00:00.000 Men, our minds are nearly limitless, and yet we spend an inordinate amount of time reading and running, working out, practicing hobbies, talking with other people, performing as best we can across various mediums, and take so little time developing the power of our brains and our minds.

00:00:22.180 Of the nearly 500 guests that I've had on this podcast now, all of them believe that their thing is the most important thing, and I can appreciate that, and yet it's the mind that makes everything else possible, and that's why I wanted to have repeat guest Jim Quick back on the podcast to discuss how to leverage this gray matter between our ears.

00:00:44.760 We talk about everything from learning to learn faster, the six thinking hats for our decision-making process, four cognitive types, the cheetah, the owl, the dolphin, and the elephant, and importantly, how to use that information, and ultimately becoming the pilot of our minds, not just the passengers.

00:01:06.600 You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time. You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

00:01:31.160 Gents, what's going on today? My name is Ryan Michler. I'm your host and the founder of the Order of Man podcast and movement. If you have been around, you know who I am. You know what we do. If you're brand new, I'm giving you tools. I'm giving you information. Look, I don't have it all figured out. In fact, I think at many times I am wholly inadequate to be telling you what it means to be a man and how you should perform.

00:01:58.200 I have some things right. I have a lot of things wrong. But one of the beautiful things about what we do is I interview incredible men like my good friend Jim Quick and guys like David Goggins and Andy Frisilla and Jocko Willink and Ben Shapiro and Tim Tebow and Terry Crews.

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00:04:17.320 And when you do save some money, because you don't need to spend more money than you need to use the code order of man at checkout. All right, guys, let me introduce you to Jim. He is an absolutely incredible human.

00:04:31.600 He's a speaker. He's an author. He's a podcast host. And he's also coached to some of the most successful people on the planet, including Bill Clinton, Richard Branson, Oprah Winfrey, Elon Musk, Will Smith, just to name a few.

00:04:51.580 Now, you don't need to agree with the politics and some of the personal antics of all these individuals. But there's no doubt that these individuals are successful. And Jim is in large part to that.

00:05:04.440 In this podcast, you're going to hear why that is and why his unique approach to engaging the mind in a powerful way is helping elite performers, athletes, scholars, warriors, and ordinary guys like you and I in ways never thought imaginable.

00:05:23.120 He's the author of several books, including the re-release of his latest book, Limitless.

00:05:29.080 This one is the expanded edition, subtitled Upgrade Your Brain, Learn Anything Faster, and Unlock Your Exceptional Life, and other brain-enhancing tools, foods, resources, etc., etc., including AI and nootropics that are added to this book. Enjoy this one, gents.

00:05:50.780 Jim, so good to see you again. Thanks for joining me on the podcast.

00:05:55.720 Thanks for having me, Ryan. Thank you, everybody who's tuning in to this brainy conversation.

00:06:01.600 Yeah, I was actually looking. Your team reached out to me because you've got the expanded edition of the book coming out.

00:06:07.160 And I was looking at it. I don't know if you remember or not, but you and I actually had a conversation very, very early on in my podcasting career.

00:06:15.040 It was in 2017. So it's been almost, I think it's been almost seven years now since we last talked.

00:06:23.060 Yeah, well, I definitely do remember because I'm the memory guy. Congratulations on the huge rise. Well, well-deserved.

00:06:31.540 Thank you, man. That means a lot. That means a lot.

00:06:33.480 You know, as I was preparing for our discussion and our conversation today, something stood out to me as I was going through all of your work and I have your books and I've read your books and I follow your stuff.

00:06:43.540 And that is this idea of the way that you look at the brain as being the machine between our ears.

00:06:48.380 I don't know why that stood out to me in a way that maybe it hadn't before, but to me, it's pretty amazing what the brain can do.

00:06:55.680 And I think that we just, we don't realize it as men and we definitely don't tap into it to the degree that we certainly can.

00:07:03.100 You know, I agree. The brain is your, for all the guys listening, I mean, it's your number one wealth building asset.

00:07:09.620 Nobody here, it's not like it was hundreds of years ago where it was our brute strength.

00:07:13.880 And that's good to have also, no doubt.

00:07:16.120 But back in our agricultural age, industrial age, it was our brute strength, not our brain strength.

00:07:21.120 Today, it's not our muscle power, but it's really our mind power.

00:07:25.120 And, but you're right, this, the faster you can learn, the faster you could earn.

00:07:28.740 You know, we live in this knowledge economy where knowledge is not only power, knowledge is profit.

00:07:32.740 And, but we don't have an owner's manual for this technology, this device.

00:07:36.700 Everything you buy, you know, gives you some kind of instructions on how to use it and get the most out of it.

00:07:41.420 But unfortunately, not our brains.

00:07:43.460 And that's, you know, that's why we wrote this expanded version of Limitless.

00:07:47.520 Why do you think that is?

00:07:48.600 I almost wonder if we look at it like the, like, like the appendix, you know, like, like everybody's had heard of having your, like appendix removed and nobody knows what the hell it does.

00:07:59.100 Or your thyroid, you know, which regulates hormones and, you know, like, but people have their thyroid removed if they have thyroid issues and nobody knows what these organs do.

00:08:08.460 Is it just lumped into this thing that we don't have any control over?

00:08:12.620 And that's why we don't address it the way we should.

00:08:14.260 Yeah, even if people are watching this on video, like I have always have a brain on my shirt or on, for connected on social media, I'm always pointed to my brain, but it's always to draw attention to the, you know, it's interesting.

00:08:25.020 Yeah.

00:08:25.300 What you see, you take care of, like people see their skin or their car, their clothes, their hair, whatever.

00:08:31.300 It's, you take care of, better care of it because it's in your awareness.

00:08:34.560 You're constantly reminded, but we don't see the thing that takes care of us, which is, which is our brain.

00:08:39.920 And so I'm always trying to draw attention to it.

00:08:42.680 I also feel like it's this black box that some people think it's intimidating or it's just a little confusing and people don't know how it kind of works.

00:08:52.380 It's like this three pound, like kind of gooey gray matter, but it, but certainly everything is there.

00:08:59.280 And in a world where our brains and our lives are constantly, it's like, we're being assaulted all the time with distraction and forgetfulness and information overload.

00:09:10.920 So that's why, you know, the nature of our work, our podcast, our books is to help people really reclaim that power back and, and show them how their brain works so they can work their brain better.

00:09:23.080 I'm fascinated because I've, I've replayed certain events in my mind.

00:09:28.460 And as I go through them, the manifestations of, you know, my dreams and hopes and desires, I can, I can, with most of these things, I can vividly remember a time where it was just a thought.

00:09:40.300 I was just thinking about something and then to see it come to fruition or, you know, somebody that might, for example, manifest health concerns or symptoms from their brain.

00:09:52.760 You know, it's actually not, not really happening, but their brain is telling them it is, and they're manifesting health problems.

00:09:58.560 It's so powerful with this little, like you said, the machine between our ears can do from things that are positive, like manifesting our dreams in reality and to reality and things that might be destructive, like creating problems that aren't really there and dragging us down paths that maybe we shouldn't go down.

00:10:15.880 Yeah, we hear about the power of the brain and beliefs around like our mindset around things like the placebo effect.

00:10:22.920 There's also this nocebo effect, which are the kind of negative ramifications.

00:10:27.520 If you believe something is not good for you or some kind of prognosis and, or even our internal beliefs, you know, at, at events, people, if I do a lot of speaking around the world and there's time, I'll do these demonstrations.

00:10:40.180 Or I'll just hand the microphone to somebody in the audience and say, Hey, everybody, pass it on.

00:10:45.340 Just introduce yourself.

00:10:46.340 And I'll maybe memorize 50 or a hundred people's names in an audience or no audience will give me a hundred words or numbers.

00:10:52.820 And we'll do this kind of thing and memorize it forwards and backwards.

00:10:55.780 But I always tell people, I don't do this to impress you.

00:10:57.760 I really do this to express to you what's possible because the truth is every single person listening to this right now, they could do that.

00:11:03.840 And a lot more, we just weren't taught.

00:11:05.580 Now, automatically, when I say that, I bet some of the guys are thinking like, Hey, just no, there's just no way, you know?

00:11:11.740 And, but regardless of your age, your background, your career, education level, financial situation, gender, history, IQ, we all could improve.

00:11:18.540 We just aren't, there are no classes, right?

00:11:20.760 Like even take something, something like memory.

00:11:23.080 There was no class back in elementary school or high school on how to improve your memory.

00:11:27.020 They teach you three R's reading, writing, arithmetic.

00:11:30.120 But what about remembering?

00:11:31.300 What about retention?

00:11:32.120 Socrates said, learning is remembering.

00:11:33.780 There's a quote in my new book, Limitless Expanded, where it says, life is the letter C between B and D.

00:11:40.840 Life is C between B and D.

00:11:42.780 Where B stands for birth, D stands for death, life C, choice.

00:11:47.140 And I really believe that these difficult times, they could diminish you.

00:11:50.160 These difficult times can distract you or these difficult times, they could develop you.

00:11:53.800 We just ultimately decide what the choices and there's certain choices we can make every single day to give us the brain we desire and the brain that we really deserve.

00:12:02.280 I think so with regards to choices, I think most people would look at a set of circumstances or choices they need to make.

00:12:11.020 And when they're big life choices, they spend a lot of time and energy into making those decisions.

00:12:16.360 It's the small little decisions on a daily basis that we tend to neglect.

00:12:19.940 So for example, your alarm might go off at 6 a.m. this morning and you have a choice to get up or a choice to stay in bed.

00:12:26.320 And for me anyways, the rationalization is like, oh, you know, I'm going to sleep in for another half an hour.

00:12:32.060 I can work out tomorrow or I can catch up on my work a little bit later because I have a gap.

00:12:37.940 It's not the big things.

00:12:38.780 It seems to me that it's the little things that add up over time that create the negative ramifications of our poor choices.

00:12:45.700 I agree.

00:12:47.320 Just like with our finances, consistency compounds, right?

00:12:52.360 Little by little, a little becomes a whole lot.

00:12:55.280 So those little choices add up to big things in our life.

00:13:00.140 And something simple like making a decision, just asking yourself, knowing that our brains control so much, that we are the pilot of our minds.

00:13:09.640 We're not the passenger.

00:13:10.460 It's the key to our wealth, our health, our relationships, even something simple like asking yourself throughout the day, is this good for my brain or is this bad for my brain?

00:13:21.260 Something simple like what I'm watching or who I'm spending time with or what I'm eating right now.

00:13:24.680 Is this something that's good for my brain or is this something that's bad?

00:13:28.320 And not that limitless is the idea.

00:13:30.600 It's not about being perfect.

00:13:31.480 It's about progress.

00:13:33.300 It's about advancing beyond what you're currently demonstrating or what you believe is possible.

00:13:37.840 But going back to the power of beliefs, I really believe that all behavior is belief-driven.

00:13:43.040 If the guys want to create a new result in their life, they have to do a new behavior.

00:13:46.420 That's kind of obvious, right?

00:13:47.920 But in order to do that new behavior, you need a belief that says that's possible.

00:13:51.680 At events, people will pull me aside in the lobby or something.

00:13:54.760 They'll say, I'm so glad you're here and following you as a memory expert.

00:13:59.360 And I just have to tell you in private, I have a horrible memory.

00:14:03.280 I'm just not smart enough or I'm too old, whatever, right?

00:14:06.260 And I always say, stop.

00:14:07.760 If you fight for your limitations, you get to keep them.

00:14:11.540 If you fight for your limits, they're yours.

00:14:14.520 You know, think about this.

00:14:15.780 Like, imagine your brain is this incredible supercomputer and your self-talk, your thoughts,

00:14:21.760 your beliefs are the program it will run.

00:14:24.000 So if you tell yourself, I'm not good at remembering people's names, you won't remember the name

00:14:29.240 of the next person you meet because you program your supercomputer not to.

00:14:33.480 And so we have to be very conscious, not that you have a negative thought, it ruins your life

00:14:36.620 any more than eating that cupcake or donut will ruin your life.

00:14:39.920 But if you ate it dozens of times a day, every single day, there's going to be a consequence.

00:14:45.840 You know, and so I think, you know, a lot of it starts with our mindset,

00:14:48.960 the set of assumptions and attitudes we have about stuff, especially about ourselves.

00:14:53.940 So as a fellow author, one of the things I've told myself in the past is things like,

00:15:01.840 I'm not a writer.

00:15:02.720 I'm sure you've heard things like that.

00:15:03.800 I'm not a writer, but people have desires and aspirations to write books.

00:15:08.540 And so I purged that thought, that negative thought from my mind.

00:15:12.220 And I wrote a couple of books and I see the power in that.

00:15:14.900 But I also wonder if there's any sort of negative negativity or unintended consequence that comes

00:15:23.600 from trying to convince yourself that you're something that you're not, right?

00:15:28.940 Do you create some sort of internal dialogue?

00:15:31.280 For example, maybe I want to run a marathon, which I do.

00:15:34.680 And I haven't proven that I'm a great runner up to this point.

00:15:38.020 I know I'm capable of doing it. 0.98

00:15:39.380 But, but blowing smoke up my ass for lack of a better term, does that create any sort 0.98

00:15:45.640 of like cognitive dissonance that, that makes an issue for people? 0.99

00:15:49.760 I believe that positivity, too much positivity could be toxic in a way that it's actually

00:15:58.500 hurtful because some people are so positive, like they, they, they see something on their

00:16:04.800 body or something they should get looked at, but they're so positive that they don't go to

00:16:08.480 the doctor to get something treated because they just feel like it's going to kind of

00:16:11.800 work out or something in a relationship, there's positive thinking and their beliefs is this

00:16:16.560 is going to be fine.

00:16:18.120 We'll get through this, but they don't change their behavior.

00:16:20.660 I feel like that could create a blind spot in our lives.

00:16:24.860 And so I think it's very important.

00:16:26.580 I'm not even talking about being positive thinking.

00:16:28.760 I'm just saying like, what's, what's most empowering for us at the, you know, at this

00:16:33.280 moment, because all these ideas they're, they're, they're ultimately lies anyway.

00:16:37.820 Right.

00:16:38.520 A lie for me stands for a limited idea entertained.

00:16:42.080 It's like, it's not true that you're too old or too, too, whatever, but I would always

00:16:46.460 check myself.

00:16:47.200 Like we have in limitless expanded, like different ways of looking at a problem.

00:16:51.520 Cause often a problem, the problem is not often the problem.

00:16:55.260 The problem is usually our mindset or assumptions, attitudes about the problem.

00:16:59.200 That's the big problem.

00:17:00.720 Meaning that a lot of people come and approach problems in the same way.

00:17:06.160 So I'll give you an example.

00:17:08.360 Something we teach in the, in the new book is something called six thinking hats.

00:17:11.840 It was credited to Edward de Bono.

00:17:14.400 So we'll turn this into a little masterclass for all the guys.

00:17:17.400 All right.

00:17:17.880 Everybody think about a situation, a decision you need to make.

00:17:21.840 You're facing some kind of difficulty.

00:17:24.080 You need to make a decision.

00:17:25.540 Maybe you're pointing it off some kind of dilemma, some kind of difficulty.

00:17:29.800 It doesn't have to be the biggest thing in the world, but just, I like to make things

00:17:32.880 very relevant otherwise it's just all theory, right?

00:17:35.980 And just imagine you're sitting at a desk and in front of you, there are six hats and

00:17:41.420 it could be any kind of hats.

00:17:42.780 They could be, they could be sports caps.

00:17:44.220 They could be top hats, whatever, right?

00:17:46.260 But they have, they all have a color, right?

00:17:48.500 So there's six color hats.

00:17:49.960 I want everybody just to imagine you're thinking about this decision, this, that they need to

00:17:55.060 make this difficult situation and reach out and imagine grabbing the white hat and then

00:18:00.980 just putting it on.

00:18:02.300 And so with the white hat, the prime directive, when you're putting on the white hat, you

00:18:06.580 have to look at the situation based on just the facts.

00:18:09.960 And I'll give everyone a little mnemonic trick to remember it.

00:18:12.640 White, like a, like a scientist lab coat.

00:18:16.400 Everything is just, it's very, it's data, it's facts, it's figures.

00:18:19.760 You have to look at just the information alone.

00:18:22.680 You're not feeling about it.

00:18:24.060 You're not thinking this is good or bad.

00:18:25.780 You're not critiquing it.

00:18:27.260 You're just looking at the data, right?

00:18:29.100 So then you look at the situation through a certain lens when you're wearing this cap,

00:18:32.920 right?

00:18:33.160 Now take the cap off and now everybody took the white one away and then put on the, let's 0.89

00:18:38.920 say the black, the black hat.

00:18:41.240 And when you put the black one on, this is going to be like the black judge's robes. 0.93

00:18:46.280 This is everything that could go wrong, right?

00:18:48.360 This is the devil's advocate.

00:18:50.000 This is, this is where the risk is potentially.

00:18:53.240 So you're going to judge the situation.

00:18:54.940 Um, and that's often useful because sometimes we don't look, we just look at, we take off

00:19:01.120 the black hat.

00:19:01.840 Most, a lot of people going back to the positive thoughts and, you know, is this okay to have

00:19:06.720 and there's their downside or cognitive bias put on the yellow hat and the yellow hat is

00:19:11.620 kind of the opposite of the black hat.

00:19:13.260 It's the optimistic hat.

00:19:15.100 It's like, you're looking at the world, all the things that could go right.

00:19:17.940 And it's great that if this fundraising works for you, this business that you're starting

00:19:23.080 is going to be good or this marketing initiative or this health protocol, it's great.

00:19:27.340 Uh, one point, but sometimes we need to look at it from, you know, a black hat also, right?

00:19:31.760 But the idea behind this is it gets you out of your own way.

00:19:34.980 Cause often we're in the same situation because we look at the situation, always the same.

00:19:39.280 And this forces you in a kind of playful way, gives you permission to see, see it a different

00:19:44.260 way.

00:19:44.800 So you take off the yellow hat and the yellow is like optimistic, like the sun or something.

00:19:51.200 Sure.

00:19:51.420 Like all the good things.

00:19:52.860 Right.

00:19:53.200 And then put on the red hat, you put on the red hat and it's kind of like the opposite

00:19:57.560 of the white hat where the white is data.

00:19:59.780 The red are all feelings.

00:20:01.260 So what's your intuition tell you, right?

00:20:03.260 How do you feel about this decision over this decision?

00:20:07.960 And, you know, maybe it's a relationship or maybe it's like, Hey, am I going to go back

00:20:12.020 to school or it's going to do that?

00:20:13.560 Or am I going to, um, stay, stay at my job and try to get that rate, whatever it happens

00:20:18.400 to be.

00:20:19.320 Um, so the red hat is like the red heart emotions.

00:20:21.820 You're just filtering through emotions.

00:20:23.700 And then finally, the last couple of hats, the green hat is put on the green hat.

00:20:29.120 This is possibility like green, um, like trees and plants, they grow, right?

00:20:34.160 New things, new things sprouting.

00:20:35.640 So this is like creativity.

00:20:36.940 It's like, maybe it's not going to school or staying with this job.

00:20:40.900 Maybe it's starting your own business, right?

00:20:42.460 You're looking for another possibility, something that's out of the box creative.

00:20:46.420 And then finally you take the green hat on and the last hat, the six is the blue hat.

00:20:51.420 He put on the blue hat and this is the manager hat.

00:20:54.900 So the other ones could be done in any order, but the blue always comes last because what

00:20:59.560 it does is it listens to all the other answers and all the other perspectives from the other

00:21:03.500 five hats and then it makes the decision, right?

00:21:06.680 Blue, like the sky, it just overlooks everything, takes everything in and then says, okay, I've

00:21:12.000 heard everything.

00:21:12.940 This is the way we're going to go.

00:21:14.820 And so this is just one of the tools, uh, and it's much more detailed than limitless

00:21:19.380 expanded, but it's just chock full of like a mental toolbox because most we're not taught

00:21:24.580 how to make good decisions or how to solve problems or how to focus and concentrate or how

00:21:29.000 to remember things.

00:21:29.840 So that's why all the chapters are on those, each of those superpowers.

00:21:33.500 This is powerful for me.

00:21:35.860 I tend to be more of an intuitive decision maker.

00:21:39.300 So the way that I feel about something, I don't know, is intuition different than feeling?

00:21:44.940 Cause it doesn't seem like it's just feelings.

00:21:47.080 To me, it just seems so right.

00:21:49.660 It is.

00:21:50.360 So the newest part of the book is all about momentum and how to create momentum in your

00:21:55.500 life.

00:21:56.520 Um, and momentum is that state where you, you've escaped, uh, like the gravity and you have this

00:22:02.200 escape velocity and you have this speed and ease and also enjoyment that comes in your

00:22:07.860 career or in your school or in your health.

00:22:10.480 Now, one of the ways we could do that, we created something I've, I've used with clients

00:22:15.540 one-on-one.

00:22:16.360 We're making it available for the first time to the general public.

00:22:19.640 And this is really a secret, like unfair advantage.

00:22:23.500 And it's based around brain types.

00:22:26.300 So I realized that it's, you know, how in medicine you have personalized medicine based

00:22:32.460 on your genetics or personalized nutrition based on your microbiome.

00:22:37.040 This is personalized learning and performance based on your cognitive type.

00:22:41.400 And there are four cognitive types.

00:22:44.120 And I, in order to create this model, I pulled from things like personality types, like Myers-Briggs.

00:22:49.900 I was inspired by left brain, right brain, a dominance theory and, uh, visual auditory

00:22:55.540 kinesthetic learning styles and multiple intelligence theory and introvert, extrovert.

00:22:59.940 We pull from all these different models.

00:23:01.420 And I realized to simplify it very elegantly, there are four brain types and I made them

00:23:06.540 for animals.

00:23:08.100 And so this will give you power because you seem, you'd watch a movie in the matrix.

00:23:14.080 Sure.

00:23:14.660 Yeah.

00:23:15.040 There's a part where Neo goes to see the Oracle for the first time in her kitchen and above

00:23:20.460 the door.

00:23:21.120 I don't know if people spotted this, but it says there's a phrase, a simple phrase, uh,

00:23:26.080 know yourself.

00:23:26.840 And I, and I think for guys, part of our journey here, as we're going on this quest to realize

00:23:32.840 and reveal like our potential and, and more of our purpose, I think you need two things.

00:23:37.580 You have the curiosity to know yourself and then the courage to be yourself, which is a

00:23:42.540 different, different thing, right?

00:23:44.180 You do curiosity to know yourself.

00:23:45.520 People do, uh, you know, they do therapy or they do plant medicine or they do meditation

00:23:50.080 or they journal, they get the introspection, right?

00:23:52.780 But then being that person is a different game.

00:23:55.080 That's a different conversation in a world full of other people's opinions and expectations

00:23:59.200 and their fear of making a mistake, not looking good.

00:24:02.680 But going back to knowing yourself, these four animals is the biggest lever because once

00:24:06.700 you know it, you know how you can not only learn and read and remember better personalized

00:24:11.120 for your brain type because everyone learns different.

00:24:14.080 Cause I realized it's not how smart you are.

00:24:16.920 It's how are you smart?

00:24:18.720 Most of us ask like how smart my partner is or how smart my kids are, how smart my coworkers

00:24:23.160 are, it's not how smart you are.

00:24:24.960 It's how are you smart?

00:24:26.580 And we all are smart in different ways, specifically these four areas.

00:24:30.920 So imagine this, uh, you have a brain code C O D E and the C stands for these are the letters.

00:24:39.060 I'll make them really easy acronyms, right?

00:24:40.920 To make it easy to remember if you're not taking it for me.

00:24:43.580 I'll take all of that.

00:24:44.760 I need all the help I can get.

00:24:46.080 The code, the C is the cheetah.

00:24:49.300 And this goes on what you're saying.

00:24:51.380 A cheetah is their mark, their trait that defines them is action and strong, strong intuition,

00:25:00.380 which is, you're right, different than feelings.

00:25:02.600 And so cheetahs are the fastest animals on the planet, right?

00:25:06.880 They thrive in fast paced environments.

00:25:09.340 They adjust and they adapt according to the situation.

00:25:12.860 They, they lean into their intuition because they're not really doing so much more thinking

00:25:17.120 about it.

00:25:17.540 They're going more with their intuition.

00:25:19.240 That's allows them to go fast, right?

00:25:21.520 Um, and you can think about who would be that, you know, entrepreneurs would fall in that category.

00:25:26.100 Athletes would fall into that category, right?

00:25:28.340 And we can give famous examples also as well.

00:25:30.700 The O in code are your owls and owls are the defining trait.

00:25:36.200 They're logical, just like that white cap.

00:25:39.240 They look for facts and figures.

00:25:40.540 They look for data.

00:25:41.300 Now, even if you just think about it, owls and cheetahs, they, they act differently.

00:25:46.840 They communicate differently.

00:25:47.960 They would invest differently, right?

00:25:50.220 Um, and they would, they would lead differently and you can even hire for these traits or manage

00:25:55.080 based on these traits.

00:25:56.280 The D in code are your dolphins and your dolphins are, they're defined by their trait of creativity.

00:26:04.640 All right.

00:26:05.240 These are your visionary.

00:26:06.660 These are your visionaries, your creative visionaries.

00:26:08.720 They are often people that have a vision for their lives or the future of their business

00:26:13.280 that maybe other people can't see yet.

00:26:15.680 Um, like maybe a Walt Disney or JK Rawlings or somebody in that, in that vein.

00:26:20.420 Um, they are great pattern recognizers and then problem solvers also as well, because they

00:26:26.280 can imagine different scenarios and outcomes.

00:26:28.160 And then finally, the last animal in code, the E in code stand for elephants and their defining

00:26:33.160 trait is empathy.

00:26:35.120 These are your collaborators.

00:26:36.820 These are people that hold a group together.

00:26:39.140 They're your community builders.

00:26:40.680 They're extremely, uh, loyal, high levels of compassion and compassion and EQ, emotional

00:26:46.540 quotient.

00:26:47.060 Now, if you're thinking about this, people could take this quiz.

00:26:50.240 We made it for the first time free.

00:26:52.280 Um, we, there's no charge, nothing to buy.

00:26:54.700 You go to my brain animal.com, my brain animal.com.

00:27:00.680 And it only takes four minutes, multiple choice.

00:27:03.280 Choose the answers that you feel.

00:27:05.580 Some of them might be like, oh, I could go with this one to this one.

00:27:07.700 Just the one that you feel just closely intuitive is like, this represents me.

00:27:11.820 And then you'll get a detailed report on personalized learning based on your animal, how you can read

00:27:18.060 faster, how you can remember people's names, but not only that communication styles, because

00:27:23.140 everything, everything gets filtered through it.

00:27:25.380 So I realized it's, again, it's, it's like, if you're learning something, you have a certain

00:27:29.640 brain type, animal type, and the teacher has a different, different animal type.

00:27:34.280 Sometimes it could be a subject matter that you're actually interested in, but you're just

00:27:37.280 not connecting with the teacher because their style and your style is different.

00:27:40.880 So you're like two ships in the night and you, you pass each other and you don't even

00:27:44.780 know that the other one is there.

00:27:46.200 Right.

00:27:46.640 And that's why it's so important.

00:27:48.040 And even down not only to learning styles, but also communication styles.

00:27:52.600 I mean, you think about a cheetah who's fast, they communicate fast too.

00:27:56.600 They're direct, they're decisive.

00:27:59.080 They get straight to the point, right?

00:28:01.160 Because they have to be concise and focused on the words they use are very action oriented

00:28:05.700 words.

00:28:06.320 They dislike beating around the bush because it just takes too much time.

00:28:09.820 Right.

00:28:10.220 And now if you're taking an owl, they would communicate differently.

00:28:13.960 Also, they would be more analytical.

00:28:16.020 They would be more methodical.

00:28:18.080 They prefer details that maybe the cheetah could bypass, right?

00:28:22.980 They, they want communication.

00:28:24.500 That's very logical, very presenting facts and figures and, and, and data.

00:28:29.860 Now, now it's interesting because often these two people could be married.

00:28:34.340 Right.

00:28:34.860 And so they would communicate differently.

00:28:36.720 And then where they bump heads is usually in their brain type because they buy differently.

00:28:41.780 They invest differently.

00:28:42.920 They communicate love differently also as well.

00:28:46.160 And then finally, the, the D and the E, the dolphin would communicate as an example, since

00:28:51.440 they think in pictures, they are, are visionary.

00:28:54.760 They are more expressive.

00:28:56.280 A picture is worth a thousand words, right?

00:28:58.140 So they speak about the bigger picture as opposed to the micro, right?

00:29:02.300 They think about future plans.

00:29:04.160 They talk about innovative ideas.

00:29:05.860 Then they have a lot of enthusiasm and passion and excitement around these possibilities.

00:29:09.800 And finally, the E are your elephants.

00:29:12.140 And since they're highly empathetic, they are very collaborative.

00:29:16.120 So they use words like we and us, as opposed to I and, and my, right?

00:29:22.640 They are very keen elephants because they're high empathy and EQ on understanding and validating

00:29:28.820 the feelings and the perspectives of other people, right?

00:29:32.400 They're also very team oriented.

00:29:33.900 They emphasize grief, like group unity, right?

00:29:36.860 They're very, they use inclusive language and they're more patient with people and their

00:29:40.500 communication styles because it takes time to listen and it takes time to make people feel

00:29:46.720 heard and understood and valued.

00:29:50.620 So like I'm going through this, but in, when you get the report, you'll see models for selling

00:29:55.240 to different styles because your sales presentation as a cheetah would be very different than an

00:30:00.600 owl likes to buy, if that, if that makes sense.

00:30:03.980 And so we built this out and it's a big part of the book and the quiz is also in the book

00:30:09.180 and also many more examples in the book, you know, than we could, you know, chat about.

00:30:13.640 But yeah, I just feel like we're talking about intuition and that's a high, that's a high,

00:30:18.560 uh, cheetah quality.

00:30:20.400 So I'm curious when you, when you take the quiz and people could take it and, and, and

00:30:24.540 post, like we, we send people artwork based on their animal.

00:30:27.580 You could post it and, you know, tag us both in it.

00:30:30.400 So we get to see it and I'll repost some, you know, cause I'm curious what your listeners

00:30:34.420 are mostly.

00:30:35.040 Man, I'm just going to step away from this enthralling conversation very quickly.

00:30:40.520 Uh, this week we're talking about obviously the power of the mind.

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00:32:01.700 You can do that right after the show for now.

00:32:04.400 Let's get back to it with Jim.

00:32:07.520 I'm actually curious about that too.

00:32:09.280 So we'll promote that and I'll do it myself.

00:32:10.800 I have an idea of what I already am.

00:32:12.840 Um, you know, I'm, I'm sure most people do, but it's good to get that, that confirmation.

00:32:17.320 I, it's interesting because as you were saying this, I was going through, I had a conversation

00:32:20.740 with a good friend of mine, uh, just yesterday and he was sharing with me a business idea

00:32:25.040 that he wants me to be involved with, which I'm actually really looking forward to being

00:32:28.440 involved with.

00:32:29.500 And he is a dolphin.

00:32:32.060 And so he, he was sharing all of this.

00:32:34.420 I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:35.420 I got it.

00:32:36.100 I got it.

00:32:36.720 Like, what are we doing?

00:32:37.860 Like what's next?

00:32:38.780 And so just to see you talk about this less than 24 hours after that conversation, it helps

00:32:44.660 me compartmentalize, oh, he's a dolphin, the visionary.

00:32:47.440 And I'm like, yeah, I got, I understand the vision.

00:32:49.460 What do we do?

00:32:50.080 Which is more of the cheetah.

00:32:51.100 It seems like.

00:32:52.600 Yeah, very, very much so.

00:32:53.780 And I think what, you know, your animal type also, it takes the judgment away, like the

00:32:57.880 self-judgment because this is how we are.

00:33:00.460 And it also takes a lot of the judgment we have over other people because they're just,

00:33:04.020 they're just expressing their, their brain animal type, if you will.

00:33:07.940 Yeah, I think just hearing this for the first time, it would allow me to be a little bit

00:33:14.420 more patient and allow me to maybe take a step back and let a person express themselves

00:33:21.320 in a way that's important to them versus me wanting to just move along with whatever

00:33:26.600 it is.

00:33:27.980 Yeah.

00:33:28.300 And also we're not stuck at any one animal sometimes, you know, and the other thing is

00:33:33.220 we could also see where our weaknesses are and we could train up those weaknesses also

00:33:37.640 as well.

00:33:38.280 And you could also, if you have a team or coworkers or family, you could also have them take the

00:33:42.460 quiz.

00:33:43.400 It only takes four minutes, kind of like what Game of Thrones character are you or whatever.

00:33:47.040 But what it allows you to do is once you know what, it just makes it a lot easier to

00:33:51.740 communicate, to be able to, to learn also as well, but you could level up.

00:33:55.840 Like we had our, our team take the assessment, obviously.

00:33:59.940 And did you know what, a hundred percent of our customer service team are elephants and 0.99

00:34:06.380 we didn't hire, we didn't hire that for that, but people will go into their element where

00:34:12.100 they're going to get a job or a role or responsibility based on their strengths and customer service,

00:34:18.180 empathy, community, these are our community builders, you know, that there's success that,

00:34:23.900 that other people's success is their success, right?

00:34:26.000 They're compassionate and they want to serve and support.

00:34:28.380 Or, you know, my, my CEO, our, you know, my business partner of almost 20 years, she's

00:34:34.460 a dolphin because she has this vision for, for our mission of building better, brighter

00:34:39.160 brains, right?

00:34:39.920 No, you know, no brain left behind.

00:34:41.720 Our CFO is an owl, very data-driven.

00:34:45.340 And so it's, it's interesting.

00:34:46.760 Our artists and our designers are, and a lot of our, our dolphins, right?

00:34:51.300 Cause they naturally are.

00:34:52.480 And if even if you think of like, like friends, right, you could, you always, if you watch

00:34:58.440 Star Trek, Star Wars, Game of Thrones, like everyone falls into an elephant.

00:35:01.780 Like if you think about Ross, if for people watch friends, he's the professor, the scientist,

00:35:07.360 he's always reading studios, he's an owl, right?

00:35:10.420 Joey is a cheetah, just acts on intuition, right?

00:35:13.680 It just doesn't, just a thought.

00:35:15.140 She just wants to put things in the application and goes and adapts.

00:35:18.300 You have Phoebe, who's a dolphin, expresses in song and, and art, and even her communication

00:35:24.660 style is very passionate, right?

00:35:26.920 And also, um, who else?

00:35:29.200 Uh, Monica would be an elephant. 1.00

00:35:31.360 Monica is the one that wants to host everything. 1.00

00:35:33.420 She wants to be the center of bringing everybody together. 0.99

00:35:36.120 But you'll see this with James Bond.

00:35:37.760 James Bond is a, is a cheetah in the through of things, has to make split second decisions

00:35:42.560 based on her, his own intuition, his boss, the head of MI6M, she's an owl.

00:35:48.300 She doesn't care about emotions and people's feelings. 1.00

00:35:50.840 She just, these are the facts, right?

00:35:52.740 She, and she manages from that, uh, MI6, uh, the M's, uh, right-hand money penny.

00:35:58.040 She's the elephant, right?

00:35:59.500 Brings the team together, uh, the inventor on the team that makes the cue, who makes the

00:36:05.080 fancy watch and the game, the cars that have all these gadgets, dolphin, right?

00:36:10.300 That's your creative.

00:36:11.760 So I give these as examples and you can go through history and say, yeah, Einstein would

00:36:15.600 be an owl and, you know, Richard Branson would, you know, would be this, this cheetah.

00:36:19.940 And there, there are all kinds of examples, but it's, it's, you change the lens, you see

00:36:23.780 the world through, and then it gives you power because you don't have to kind of just throw

00:36:28.300 things on and hope certain things stick.

00:36:30.120 There's a tendency based on, on, on the brain type, uh, in terms how people do anything.

00:36:35.880 Well, and I also think the value of this could be in, again, I'm just using myself as an

00:36:40.700 example, as a cheetah, I tend to be intuitive and I tend to be, I tend to take action quickly,

00:36:45.080 which, you know, eight out of 10 times plays in my favor, but the other two ends up biting 1.00

00:36:50.540 me in the ass pretty good from time to time. 0.98

00:36:52.940 Uh, and I, and I think this, having this framework might allow me to say, well, hold on a second. 0.99

00:36:59.520 This is what I want to do.

00:37:00.660 And I feel like I'm about 90% sure, but let me go over to my app.

00:37:05.120 Let me put the owl hat on here real quick and make sure that this is actually something that

00:37:09.060 I want to do.

00:37:09.680 So I don't fall into one of those, there are the two out of 10 that, that comes back to

00:37:13.360 bite me and haunt me.

00:37:15.200 Yeah.

00:37:15.380 And you can use it for hiring and, uh, hiring and managing people.

00:37:19.340 You know, cheetahs tend to be more, uh, value efficiency and results oriented.

00:37:24.120 You know, they might lean towards hiring candidates who demonstrate initiative and adaptability and

00:37:28.300 decisiveness.

00:37:29.040 An owl will hire differently, right?

00:37:31.220 And owls would appreciate candidates who exhibit strong analytical skills and attention to detail,

00:37:37.100 a more systematic approach, right?

00:37:39.860 Dolphins might gravitate towards creative, visionary, uh, communicative candidates, uh, people that

00:37:46.480 think outside the box.

00:37:47.760 Elephants would hire, you know, team players, right? 0.61

00:37:51.140 Loyalty is very important for them.

00:37:52.700 They would show, uh, interpret people who have interpersonal skills, you know, who people demonstrate

00:37:57.660 emotional intelligence.

00:37:59.560 And so it, it helps you kind of put a lens, getting the right people on the bus and then

00:38:04.000 making sure those people on the bus are sitting in the right seats.

00:38:06.400 You know, they're in roles that really allowed them to, to feel fulfilled because they're playing

00:38:10.900 to their strengths.

00:38:11.960 And then they're surrounded by people who compliment them, you know, in different animals.

00:38:17.140 Yeah.

00:38:17.640 Right.

00:38:17.860 Yeah.

00:38:18.420 Yeah.

00:38:18.860 That's powerful.

00:38:19.700 I do want to shift gears because as I was going through the, through the book, one of

00:38:23.380 the things that I found interesting was, uh, and, and fairly, uh, relatively recent development

00:38:27.940 is this whole concept of AI.

00:38:30.140 And, you know, you have people on both sides of the, the, the table as, as far, as far as,

00:38:35.220 you know, AI is the destruction of humanity.

00:38:37.680 Others look at AI as, as a tool for growth and opportunity.

00:38:42.660 I see both, I can see both sides of that coin.

00:38:46.880 Uh, but you talk a lot about AI as, as a tool to enhance our ability to think, enhance our

00:38:53.060 ability to perform.

00:38:54.020 And I'm curious with your take on that.

00:38:56.880 Yeah.

00:38:57.060 So the new version of the book is all about momentum.

00:39:00.860 Like the, it still has all the, the amazing content for mastering your mindset, your motivation.

00:39:07.040 So you don't procrastinate and all the methods for accelerated learning and brain optimization.

00:39:11.040 The new content that we add is, are things that would enhance momentum.

00:39:15.860 And so knowing your brain type and the brain type of other people will give you more momentum

00:39:21.000 and power and more velocity towards your goals.

00:39:23.900 AI is also one of those chapters that we added because we wanted to update the book for post

00:39:28.980 pandemic AI world.

00:39:31.260 And so AI for me is not artificial intelligence.

00:39:35.040 It's more augmented intelligence.

00:39:36.980 So when you augment something you're partnering or you're using it as a support tool, right?

00:39:42.600 And so my question for writing that chapter, and it's got so many usable things you could

00:39:47.560 do is how do you use AI to enhance your HI, your human intelligence, right?

00:39:54.120 And we give all kinds of examples from AI curated content to AI driven, uh, personalized learning

00:40:00.740 plans to AI, you know, micro learning systems to scheduling review reminders to, uh, AI driven

00:40:07.340 focus tools to even like, uh, like we have a podcast also as well.

00:40:13.340 And sometimes I don't get the book in time if, if, if the guest happens to be an author and

00:40:19.100 I don't like to read on screens cause I don't need another excuse to be on a screen.

00:40:22.420 I like like, like physical books and you can go into AI and say, you know, summarize this

00:40:26.680 book for me, or I'm a, I want to have a thoughtful question with this author propose 10 questions

00:40:33.220 that they haven't been asked before that my audience specifically, uh, would, would connect

00:40:38.480 with something like, you know, the reason why our brain types can change over time is

00:40:44.940 something called neuroplasticity.

00:40:46.540 Cause we could change our thoughts, our beliefs, our feelings, our strategies, because our brains

00:40:51.300 can make new connections.

00:40:53.200 But if I mentioned neuroplasticity and people want to learn what that is, instead of Googling

00:40:57.660 it and seeing some formal definition, you can go into AI and say, explain to me the concept

00:41:03.400 of neuroplasticity as if I am eight years old.

00:41:07.540 Right.

00:41:08.020 And it will give you some nice, really, uh, story driven things, visual things that'll

00:41:12.860 give you a good foundation that you could build on and add to and refine over, over time.

00:41:17.960 But all the principles in limitless expanded, you know, how to remember names, how to be

00:41:22.940 able to give a speech without notes, how to learn multiple languages, all that you could

00:41:26.960 use AI to enhance that.

00:41:28.120 Also, you could take some of the tools that I talk about, like mind mapping, uh, which is

00:41:32.640 a sophisticated whole brain note-taking technique.

00:41:35.060 And you could say, Hey, mind map this podcast episode for me, and it'll put out the branches

00:41:41.100 and the trees or create Jim mentioned his favorite brain foods or the 10 things, the keys to optimize

00:41:47.860 your sleep or something.

00:41:49.080 And you could say, Hey, I want to memorize that and give a talk about it.

00:41:52.440 Create for me a memory palace, which is one of the techniques we talk about in the book

00:41:57.160 in depth.

00:41:57.640 It's a 2,500 year old, uh, technique that they use in ancient Greece to memorize poetry

00:42:03.700 and, and talks and everything.

00:42:06.140 And, you know, you could ask AI to support you and create that, that story arc for you.

00:42:10.540 And so there's, there's a vocabulary.

00:42:12.920 It could give you retrieval questions when you're reading something, it could prompt you

00:42:16.980 to test how much you're actually retaining AI can measure your reading speed, uh, your reading

00:42:21.800 comprehension.

00:42:22.460 I mean, it just goes on and on.

00:42:24.400 And so in the book, we've put very specific prompts and things you could do to learn any

00:42:29.420 subject or skill in a fraction of the time, utilizing AI and the principles of accelerated

00:42:35.340 learning that we talk about in the book.

00:42:37.800 That's powerful.

00:42:38.320 I know that I've come across unique ways to use AI from writing product descriptions to

00:42:43.280 learning about different things.

00:42:44.960 Are there, are there certain programs that, I mean, obviously chat GPT is one that's, that's

00:42:50.000 huge.

00:42:50.320 I think most people would be aware of other, other AI type programs that you would recommend

00:42:54.360 or, or personally use.

00:42:56.100 There, there are, I mean, I, I focus on a lot of the AI chat programs and our, we have the

00:43:00.280 largest learning, accelerated learning academy in the world, students in every country, 195

00:43:05.700 nations.

00:43:06.680 And so we have a quick bot that we fed with all our courses and all our books and all the

00:43:11.860 material.

00:43:12.380 So as an added benefit, when people are learning to triple their reading speed and not only

00:43:16.840 that, but comprehension and retention, they could go there for a 24 hour coach.

00:43:21.340 That's been, because our public programs aren't available to AI outside because they're behind

00:43:26.240 a, you know, a wall, if you will.

00:43:28.980 So yeah, so we, we, we've created our, our own customized.

00:43:32.500 So people could have kind of me on demand as an example.

00:43:36.040 Our team uses AI, all the different functions and mid-journal everything for their specific

00:43:41.800 roles.

00:43:42.100 There's not one member of our team that doesn't use AI for something.

00:43:45.780 My specialty happens to be in the area of improving performance and intelligence.

00:43:50.840 So for focus, there are AI tools that monitor your online activity, can help you reduce distractions

00:43:55.940 and keeping you more, you know, concentrated on, on your task at hand.

00:44:00.160 For memory, there are AI platforms that could provide optimally time review reminders saying

00:44:05.880 like there's something we teach called space repetition on how to space information out.

00:44:09.980 So it could go from your short-term to long-term memory, you know, and then we're building

00:44:14.720 like a speed reading kind of really amazing AI platform ourselves, but we're, we're building

00:44:19.740 it ourselves.

00:44:20.400 But certainly I'm not an AI expert in terms of the broad platforms that are out there.

00:44:25.340 What I'm interested is utilizing some of the fundamental ones to, to accelerate achievement,

00:44:31.340 accelerate performance and overall learning faster.

00:44:35.420 Yeah.

00:44:36.640 Yeah.

00:44:36.900 I mean, I, I like AI just for the shortcut of thing, shortcut time savings, financial savings

00:44:42.720 as well.

00:44:43.280 You know, what you used to have to hire somebody to do, you can all funnel through AI.

00:44:47.300 And I know, as I say that people are thinking, well, you know, like that'll put people out

00:44:51.840 of work.

00:44:52.300 Well, yeah.

00:44:53.380 Welcome to human evolution.

00:44:55.520 You know, this is, this is the way it goes.

00:44:57.680 That doesn't make me feel bad if somebody loses a job.

00:45:01.140 Every, every technology has done that.

00:45:02.620 Right.

00:45:03.020 When we, when we had cars, the people's job is something like every, everything, the internet,

00:45:07.080 but also it's not.

00:45:08.900 My perspective is like, Hey, I won't necessarily take away our job.

00:45:11.960 People who use AI will be more valuable in the marketplace than people who don't.

00:45:15.760 And they'll take the jobs of people who just refuse to use it.

00:45:18.420 I think it's like, kind of like a fad for me.

00:45:20.900 Technology is not so much good or bad technology allows this conversation to happen.

00:45:25.240 Right.

00:45:25.900 So like, it's, it's a good thing.

00:45:27.240 It allows like all these things to, you know, it's happened for you to educate, entertain,

00:45:31.880 empower, connect.

00:45:33.560 But it's like fire.

00:45:34.560 Fire is a form of early technology in a way.

00:45:37.900 And it's just how it's applied.

00:45:39.220 Fire could cook your food and fire could burn down your home.

00:45:43.000 Right.

00:45:43.200 It's just how it's being, being utilized.

00:45:45.800 You know, and so I'm very optimistic for its applications for people that says like, Hey,

00:45:51.620 this is kind of like, not really short.

00:45:53.460 It's like the internet, like the internet's not going anywhere anytime soon.

00:45:56.680 Right.

00:45:57.320 And if people refuse to utilize it, they're just at a disadvantage.

00:46:01.160 And my thing is at a meta level, you could use AI to help you to learn AI.

00:46:05.780 I mean, how meta is that?

00:46:07.200 You could actually use it saying, Hey, I want to learn to be an AI expert.

00:46:11.060 How would I go about doing it?

00:46:12.900 And then apply our accelerated learning models on top of it.

00:46:16.400 And, and you're going to get some, you're going to get much better results in less time.

00:46:21.140 I saw this a lot.

00:46:23.060 My, my previous background was financial planning and that was eight, nine years ago.

00:46:27.780 And I saw this a lot where there was new technology, not AI the way that we view it now, but there

00:46:33.980 were bots and there were quote unquote robo advisors that were coming online that could

00:46:38.840 do a significantly better job because it would eliminate all the emotional decision-making

00:46:43.140 from, from, from the process of financial, from financial planning, which is, which is

00:46:47.740 good in the, in the, in the grand scheme of things.

00:46:50.440 But you'd have these old time advisors who were like, well, you know, they, they can't

00:46:54.060 do it as good as me and it'll never replace human interaction.

00:46:57.840 And these are the guys who are out of business.

00:46:59.380 They're all retired or out of business now because they couldn't get on board with the

00:47:02.280 fact that there's new technology that you can either buck and reject, or you can embrace

00:47:07.960 and utilize for the betterment of yourself and your clients in this case.

00:47:11.640 And that's exactly right, Ryan.

00:47:13.900 Like it's the number one skill, in my opinion, that people need to master is our ability to

00:47:20.180 adapt, our ability to learn, to unlearn and to relearn, because that's the only change

00:47:26.900 is the only constant, right?

00:47:28.360 So our ability to learn rapidly and translate that learning into action is the ultimate competitive

00:47:33.020 advantage.

00:47:33.800 And that's why learning how to learn is a meta skill, the most important skill, because

00:47:38.000 it makes all other skills easier.

00:47:39.840 Meaning that if you want to create wealth and whatever wealth is in a relationship and

00:47:45.220 your health, money, right?

00:47:47.240 Impact, you want to create some kind of treasure, you need to be able to do certain things.

00:47:51.460 And in order to do those things, you need to upgrade your knowledge, skills, and your

00:47:54.500 abilities.

00:47:55.620 And our ability to process knowledge, to adapt, you know, new skills and new abilities is paramount.

00:48:02.220 It's kind of like, if you can learn how to learn, which means you could focus, you could

00:48:06.780 think, you could retain information, you could read faster, you could do all these things,

00:48:10.220 what can you apply that to?

00:48:11.960 Everything.

00:48:12.280 You can apply it towards money, medicine, marketing, martial arts, Mandarin, everything

00:48:18.300 in your life.

00:48:18.900 Music, everything gets easier when you can learn how to learn.

00:48:21.860 So the book, Limitless Expanded, is literally an owner's manual for your brain to have your

00:48:25.920 best brain possible, optimize your sleep, what are the best brain foods that reduce stress,

00:48:30.180 all of that, and the best supplements in the new book, for the very first time in 30 years

00:48:36.280 of coaching, I've never talked about brain nutrients and supplements like nootropics,

00:48:41.020 but that gives you momentum.

00:48:42.700 When you take something, it helps you with your focus, or your mood, or your memory, or

00:48:47.500 your mental vitality, and you're not suffering from brain fog and all that, you become unstoppable,

00:48:52.820 right?

00:48:53.340 And so the idea here is, if you can learn how to learn, so the book is How to Supercharge

00:48:57.680 Your Brain, which is the hardware, the three-pound gray matter between your ears, and then the

00:49:01.880 software is How to Read Faster, How to Remember Languages, How to Give a Speech Without Notes,

00:49:06.520 How to Remember Client Information, Product Information, Remember Names and Bases, so much

00:49:10.360 more.

00:49:11.340 Yeah, it's like everybody that I've had on the podcast, and I've interviewed over, gosh,

00:49:15.840 460 successful men now, and yeah, it's been pretty incredible.

00:49:20.840 I'm the greatest recipient of it.

00:49:22.760 I mean, I got to be honest, I learned something from everybody who comes on, and I get to ask the

00:49:27.040 questions I want to ask, so it works out pretty well.

00:49:30.380 Hopefully, guys are served in the meantime, but everybody who comes on believes their thing

00:49:36.840 is the most important thing, and I can appreciate that.

00:49:41.080 I really can.

00:49:41.620 I'm glad that there's people who are so passionate about everything from jujitsu to hunting to

00:49:48.120 writing to you name it, right?

00:49:50.360 But I am on your side that this, outside of spirituality, I think this is the most important

00:50:00.800 thing because it impacts literally every other aspect of your life.

00:50:05.700 Yeah, imagine everyone who's listening that if there was a genie could grant you any one

00:50:10.240 wish, but only one wish, you would, everyone would ask for more wishes, right?

00:50:15.180 Hey, give me a million wishes, limitless wishes.

00:50:18.180 If I was your learning genie, and I could grant you any one learning wish, I can make you an

00:50:22.720 expert or master, you know, like in any one subject or any one skill.

00:50:27.760 I mean, would people choose hunting or coding or jujitsu, or would it be learning how to learn

00:50:34.440 because that's the equivalent of asking for limitless wishes, because then you could just

00:50:38.080 apply that towards jujitsu or dance or, you know, all the things you need to remember to fly a

00:50:44.000 plane to be able to, you know, do well with your investments.

00:50:47.040 All of that comes from focus, thinking, you know, reading, retaining, implement all that.

00:50:53.160 So I'm kind of biased, but it's the biggest needle mover, because if you've seen people

00:50:58.560 who are successful, and you've interviewed so many of them, genius leaves clues, right?

00:51:03.020 These are people who constantly upgrade their knowledge, skills and abilities to be who they

00:51:06.880 are, and the results show it.

00:51:09.740 Well, when you can get to the point, you were talking about matrix earlier, when you can get

00:51:12.860 to the point where all you have to do is download some program.

00:51:15.640 And it's like, I know Kung Fu, let me know, because you are going to be a wealthy, wealthy

00:51:19.720 man when you figure that one out.

00:51:23.260 Yeah, I feel like, go ahead.

00:51:25.820 It's it.

00:51:26.120 Yeah, I mean, I can't wait.

00:51:27.160 I can't wait for that day.

00:51:28.540 You know, I think something like that is feasible.

00:51:31.280 I mean, is that something there's a lot of information with downloading stuff into the

00:51:35.260 brain?

00:51:35.600 I'm curious about that.

00:51:36.340 With AI right now, this is people.

00:51:39.520 Okay.

00:51:39.780 So in the book, we talk about the four horsemen of the mental apocalypse.

00:51:44.220 And if we're too dependent on technology, then we just get weak, right?

00:51:47.880 Nobody wants to be weaker.

00:51:49.080 But the truth is, digital deluge, it's information overload.

00:51:53.120 That's creating health issues, because the information is doubling at Disney speed, but

00:51:56.700 how we read it and learn it's the same.

00:51:58.260 So that growing gap creates stress, right?

00:52:00.480 Information, anxiety, higher blood pressure, compression, leisure time, more sleep.

00:52:03.420 That's why we teach speed reading, accelerated learning to help close that gap.

00:52:07.800 So you could be more actually catch up, keep up and get ahead.

00:52:10.240 Then there's digital distraction.

00:52:11.840 Every ring, ping, ding, app notification, social media alerts, like we're flexing our

00:52:16.640 distraction muscles all the time.

00:52:18.100 So how do we focus when we need to pay attention in a meeting or with our kids or something else?

00:52:23.220 And then that's why we teach focus and concentration.

00:52:25.880 Then there's digital dementia, which is the heavy reliance is a real healthcare term on

00:52:33.400 our devices to hold memories for us.

00:52:36.100 Like think about how many phone numbers you knew growing up, right?

00:52:39.860 All of them.

00:52:40.500 But how many knew?

00:52:40.960 All the ones you needed.

00:52:42.000 Sure.

00:52:42.580 None.

00:52:42.940 I don't need my kids' numbers.

00:52:45.380 Exactly.

00:52:46.080 And here's, but here's the thing.

00:52:47.220 I don't want to memorize 500 phone numbers, but it should be very concerning.

00:52:51.020 We've lost the mental fitness to remember one or a pin number or a passcode or a seed phrase

00:52:55.380 or something that we were going to say or something we just read or someone's name, right?

00:52:59.760 So memory is a muscle.

00:53:01.040 It's use it or lose it.

00:53:02.020 But digital dementia is saying, hey, we don't have to use our memory.

00:53:05.220 And then digital deduction that I talk about in the book and ways of thinking.

00:53:08.780 And the memory, by the way, is the largest chapter in the book.

00:53:11.100 Digital deduction is where the technology is doing the thinking for you with algorithms.

00:53:15.720 It's telling you what to eat.

00:53:18.080 It's telling you how to get from here to there.

00:53:19.740 So we don't have to develop the visual spatial intelligences that we used to have or even

00:53:24.260 as hunter-gatherers we needed to have for our survival because a piece of tool is doing

00:53:29.480 it.

00:53:29.880 But here's the thing.

00:53:31.720 If technology is a tool for us to use, but if the technology is using us, then we become

00:53:38.640 the tool, right?

00:53:39.680 And that's a big problem.

00:53:40.800 I believe with the growth of and the embrace of artificial intelligence, AI, it's more of

00:53:47.540 a reason we should get our brains in shape to be able to keep up with all that and then

00:53:52.100 maintain our curiosity, our imagination, our ability to implement the stuff that we learn.

00:53:57.760 So I feel like what makes us human, like think about it.

00:54:01.720 Every creature in nature has a superpower.

00:54:04.300 Some animals could fly.

00:54:06.040 Some could breathe underwater.

00:54:07.400 Some could go really fast.

00:54:08.920 Some are really strong.

00:54:10.820 Now, human beings, we're not any of those things.

00:54:13.000 But because our superpower is our mind, we can fly.

00:54:16.840 Because our superpower is our mind, we can go really fast or go underwater, right?

00:54:21.140 And this is most people out of fear right now because of the current environment, they're

00:54:25.700 shrinking what's possible to fit their minds.

00:54:28.680 And what I'm saying is a big, I think it's a big mistake.

00:54:31.580 We should do the opposite.

00:54:32.640 We should expand our minds to fit all that's really possible.

00:54:35.880 So you said, I didn't catch it.

00:54:40.440 I've got distraction, dementia, deduction.

00:54:43.160 I didn't catch the first one in what you called it.

00:54:45.220 Yeah, digital deluge.

00:54:48.060 It's the information.

00:54:49.500 It's a term because I just want it to be all Ds.

00:54:51.900 Digital deluge is the overload and overwhelmed.

00:54:55.340 How many people who are listening, how many guys right now have books on your shelf you

00:54:58.920 haven't read yet?

00:55:00.020 And it becomes shelf help and not self-help, right?

00:55:02.460 Shelf help, not self-help.

00:55:03.640 But the reason why is buying a book is a different skill set than reading that book.

00:55:08.960 Now, reading is a skill.

00:55:10.700 You weren't born and went into the waiting room and just started reading magazines.

00:55:14.660 It's a skill we learned.

00:55:15.860 But when's the last time we took a class or training called reading?

00:55:20.100 What were we, six years old?

00:55:21.880 And so that's the problem with the school system.

00:55:24.260 The school teaches you what to learn, math, history, science, Spanish.

00:55:28.220 There are zero classes on how to learn it.

00:55:29.900 So going to your kids or going to your business partner and say, hey, focus, study this for

00:55:36.640 this meeting or this test.

00:55:37.980 That's like going to somebody saying, play the ukulele, who's never taken a class on

00:55:44.000 how to play the ukulele.

00:55:45.540 It's just like when you say someone focus or study or remember this, like we haven't learned

00:55:50.420 how to do that.

00:55:51.120 And so my goal is to fill in the gaps so that way people are really prepared for this post-pandemic

00:55:58.240 AI world.

00:55:59.460 Because again, our brain is our number one wealth building asset that we have.

00:56:03.680 And that's the best thing you can do.

00:56:05.460 Everyone upgrades their technology.

00:56:07.240 You upgrade your car, you upgrade your phone, you upgrade your apps, whatever.

00:56:11.300 The most important technology is the human brain, the technology that's created all the

00:56:15.360 other technology outside of us.

00:56:16.800 But people aren't, you know, like this is why this conversation is so important.

00:56:21.820 Yeah, it's powerful.

00:56:22.700 I do want to cover, I know we're kind of bumping up against time here real quick, but I do,

00:56:26.460 I am very interested in when you talk about nootropics, I've always, not always, but in

00:56:31.600 the past kind of written it off and said, this is woo woo, this is BS.

00:56:35.640 And then I think about it, you know, if you were to have two shots of whiskey, you're going

00:56:39.100 to be impacted by that.

00:56:40.320 If you're going to eat an edible, you know, you're going to be impacted by that.

00:56:44.040 These are all chemicals that you're consuming and we know that it impacts our body in certain

00:56:49.460 ways.

00:56:50.820 And yet, when you talk about nootropics and you talk about supplements, to me, at least

00:56:55.960 in the past, it's kind of been like, ah, that stuff doesn't work or it's not necessary,

00:56:59.060 but clearly these chemicals have the ability to alter our brains for the better and worse

00:57:03.780 too.

00:57:04.900 No doubt.

00:57:05.660 So I always prefer people get it from food.

00:57:08.500 Like I'm a foodie and then even in the book, the original edition, which is included in

00:57:13.920 the expanded version, I talk about the best brain foods because what we eat matters, especially

00:57:18.140 for our gray matter.

00:57:19.500 There's a whole area that I talk about in the book about neuro nutrition, that your brain

00:57:24.520 is only 2% of your body mass, but it requires 20% of nutrients.

00:57:28.340 And some of those nutrients are different than the rest of your body.

00:57:30.740 Cause obviously your brain is part of your body, right?

00:57:33.180 To help you to focus, to help you to remember.

00:57:35.020 And so I'd rather people get it from food, but if they're not getting it from food, which

00:57:39.120 a lot of people aren't, and I'm not a nutritionist or a medical doctor, people could do a food

00:57:43.540 sensitivity test.

00:57:44.400 They can do a nutrient profile test because you're lacking vitamin E, like our D, you're

00:57:49.480 not, your brain's not going to work as well as it could.

00:57:51.540 You can learn the speed reading techniques and you'll get a certain benefit, but if you're

00:57:54.740 lacking the omega-3 fatty acids, right?

00:57:57.640 So for example, eggs is a great, they're a great brain food if people allow that in their

00:58:02.780 diet, the, the, the choline in eggs is, is key because it leads to acetylcholine is a

00:58:09.020 vital role in brain health.

00:58:10.600 So if you're not getting it from eggs or soybeans or some, some food, then you might need to

00:58:15.800 supplement in it because it could definitely, there's so many benefits for your health.

00:58:19.240 I mentioned omega-3s, your brain is mostly fat.

00:58:22.420 So good food sources, salmon, sardines.

00:58:26.240 But if you're not eating that, you need your omega-3s, particularly the DHAs.

00:58:30.840 So you could supplement with DHAs or your omega-3 fatty acids, your B vitamins, your

00:58:36.020 magnesium.

00:58:37.080 Those are supplements.

00:58:38.320 Probably my favorite supplement is for the brain is creatine.

00:58:43.580 Like most of us use it for workouts, right?

00:58:46.800 But it is so many, is so well researched for cognitive health and cognitive performance,

00:58:52.840 especially when it comes to your mitochondria and ATP energy for your, for your brain.

00:58:58.700 So people struggle in that area.

00:59:00.960 It's, it's worth looking into, but then you have your nootropics that can give you a little

00:59:04.800 bit of an edge and things like L-theanine.

00:59:08.540 L-theanine is a, is an amino acid.

00:59:11.080 It's found in green tea.

00:59:12.700 So I prefer people get it from green tea, right?

00:59:15.320 But if you're not doing that, it gets a very popular nootropic.

00:59:18.220 It helps with relaxation without the drowsiness and enhances brain function, right?

00:59:23.620 There's another one, uh, uh, Ayurvedic herb called Bacopa, which has been shown to, to

00:59:30.000 improve cognition and memory.

00:59:31.760 Everything that I put in the book, it's all human studies.

00:59:34.240 So I reference all the human studies.

00:59:35.760 And again, not everything's for everybody, right?

00:59:38.920 But it's just to give people options.

00:59:40.960 But again, I'd rather go food, you know, for it, but like a rhodiola, it's a Scandinavian 1.00

00:59:45.960 herb that helps reduce mental fatigue and improve cognitive function.

00:59:49.980 So people could look into it, but we, we document all of them there.

00:59:53.360 We make it very, very simple.

00:59:55.100 Um, the creatine, the curcumin, like turmeric is a great brain food, helps to lower systemic

00:59:59.740 inflammation.

01:00:00.620 And, you know, that could lead to challenges.

01:00:02.740 The active ingredient in turmeric is curcumin, which is very anti-inflammatory, huge antioxidant

01:00:09.180 benefits.

01:00:09.880 It could cross the blood brain barrier, uh, which could have been shown to improve, uh, cognitive

01:00:14.980 function, uh, particularly in, in patients with, with Alzheimer's.

01:00:19.260 Then there's like lion's mane mushroom, which could finish that with BDNF and being, you

01:00:23.280 have certain neurotropic effects.

01:00:25.860 Caffeine with L-theanine is really good.

01:00:28.900 You know, a lot of people use caffeine as a well-known stimulant, but you add L-theanine

01:00:32.840 and it could help you improve your brain function without all the, um, I'm very sensitive

01:00:37.040 to caffeine.

01:00:37.600 So without all the jitters, you know, that could come from a ginkgo biloba, which helps with

01:00:42.360 blood flow.

01:00:43.040 I mean, there's these things that people could look into, um, that are well-researched that

01:00:48.200 could be an option.

01:00:49.760 Yeah, it's powerful.

01:00:50.800 Well, I want to be respectful of your time.

01:00:52.500 I know how busy you are, so I do want to close it out today.

01:00:55.340 Um, if you would let the guys know where to connect with you, obviously to pick up a

01:00:58.740 copy of the, um, expanded edition and, uh, we'll go from there.

01:01:02.820 Yeah.

01:01:03.260 So we have a podcast, um, people could subscribe just to look for my name, Jim quick.

01:01:07.900 You just have the spell away, right?

01:01:09.080 K W I K or on YouTube.

01:01:11.760 Also, it's not your podcast app.

01:01:13.620 We have a good 1.3 million subscribers there.

01:01:16.260 We put in daily content.

01:01:17.620 The book is at limitless book.com.

01:01:19.580 When you get the book there, you could actually redeem your receipt and we'll give you 13 days

01:01:25.780 of brain training.

01:01:26.540 It's a full course.

01:01:27.620 It's not like a continuing thing, but I teach you the basics of speed reading, memory enhancement,

01:01:32.560 focus, and concentrations.

01:01:33.460 When the book arrives, you like, you're going to finish that book.

01:01:36.920 So that's why I love about it.

01:01:38.060 We donate all the proceeds to charity to build schools for boys and girls and countries that

01:01:42.780 don't in villages that don't have schools.

01:01:45.480 Um, and then, uh, mybrainanimal.com take the quiz, post it online, tag Ryan, tag myself.

01:01:51.080 So we get to see it.

01:01:51.980 I'll repost some of my favorites, you know, also, also just cause I, you know, want to be supportive

01:01:56.760 of the community, but I, I appreciate you having me back on the show.

01:01:59.760 I can't believe, wow, six, seven years just flies by.

01:02:03.480 Isn't that wild?

01:02:04.300 It really is crazy.

01:02:06.140 Well, Jim, I appreciate you.

01:02:08.140 Yeah.

01:02:08.960 No, no.

01:02:09.500 Especially in this day and age, it's like dog years.

01:02:11.500 So it feels like, like 50 years ago, almost, but my final words for everybody is like,

01:02:17.300 do something, you know, like maybe you could post even and tag us and just say like one

01:02:21.920 thing you're going to do for your brain, the next 24 hours that you weren't doing before.

01:02:25.300 And I'll repost some of my favorites, gift out a couple of copies of Limitless Expanded

01:02:29.960 just to your community as a thank you.

01:02:31.520 But I really believe guys that there's a version of yourself that's patiently waiting.

01:02:35.840 And the goal is we show up every single day until we're introduced.

01:02:40.700 Awesome.

01:02:40.900 That's powerful, Jim.

01:02:41.820 Thank you very much.

01:02:42.540 I appreciate you.

01:02:44.600 All right, gentlemen, there you go.

01:02:46.240 My conversation with my friend, Jim Quick.

01:02:48.220 I hope you enjoyed it.

01:02:49.260 I enjoyed it.

01:02:50.060 Obviously, he's just, he's got so much information to share on how to upgrade your mind and how

01:02:56.400 to improve your brain.

01:02:58.080 I specifically like talking about AI, nootropics, which is something that I haven't always bought

01:03:04.180 into, but I can see the power of using some of these chemicals and natural remedies to

01:03:09.620 improve cognitive function, which is what I need.

01:03:12.660 At 42 years old, I feel like I'm not the same guy I was at 20.

01:03:16.260 And so whatever I can do to improve my ability to communicate with you, to think clearly,

01:03:22.680 to make good decisions, to grow up my business, to engage with my family, the more tools I

01:03:29.500 have at my disposal, the better off I'm going to be.

01:03:32.420 So please connect with Jim.

01:03:34.540 He had mentioned in the podcast that if you share with him, he's going to highlight some

01:03:40.280 of his favorite messages, pick up a copy of Limitless, the expanded edition.

01:03:45.440 And tag me as well.

01:03:48.820 So I know you're listening and we'll keep getting after it.

01:03:52.760 Guys, we got a lot of work to do in this battle to reclaim and restore masculinity.

01:03:57.300 We are scratching the surface on the army that we're going to enlist to help us do just that

01:04:02.760 and reclaim what it means to be a man.

01:04:05.260 And I am glad, glad and honored to be standing shoulder to shoulder with you in this battle.

01:04:10.720 All right, guys, you've got your marching orders.

01:04:12.780 I'll be back tomorrow for my Ask Me Anything with my friend and co-host Kip Sorensen.

01:04:18.100 Until then, go out there, take action, expand your brain, and become the man you are meant

01:04:25.460 to be.

01:04:26.000 Thank you for listening to the Order of Man podcast.

01:04:28.920 If you're ready to take charge of your life and be more of the man you were meant to be,

01:04:32.520 we invite you to join the Order at orderofman.com.

Order of Man - November 14, 2023

JIM KWIK ｜ Upgrade Your Brain

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