Order of Man

00:00:00.000 There's nothing wrong with checklists

00:00:01.420 and there's nothing wrong with making things and people,

00:00:04.740 your wife in this case, a priority.

00:00:06.440 She should be on your checklist.

00:00:07.940 When I hear checklist,

00:00:09.480 usually there's no heart and soul in that.

00:00:12.360 I haven't put any thought at, 0.97

00:00:13.320 damn it, let's just go to wherever we go 0.98

00:00:15.800 and like, we'll just do the same thing we did last week. 0.99

00:00:18.000 That's where I think it's gonna feel

00:00:19.620 like a checklist to her.

00:00:21.020 So how do you change that?

00:00:22.340 When you start focusing on the little things

00:00:25.080 and take those assignments to the nth degree,

00:00:27.760 she's not gonna feel like she's just the checklist.

00:00:30.000 Kip, what's up, man?

00:00:32.400 Great to see this Friday.

00:00:33.600 Sounds like you're getting your family off

00:00:35.720 on a trip or something.

00:00:36.800 Is that right?

00:00:37.400 You're not going?

00:00:38.040 What's up with that?

00:00:39.520 I have that extended archery buck tag

00:00:42.420 in the Wasatch front.

00:00:44.600 So I'm gonna-

00:00:45.920 You're going hunting this weekend.

00:00:47.140 Yeah, I'm gonna hit the mountains

00:00:48.360 while the family goes up to Idaho.

00:00:50.700 Awesome, man.

00:00:51.520 And you're not coming to Minnesota this year with us,

00:00:54.220 are you?

00:00:55.060 This is me trying to make up

00:00:57.340 for not going to Minnesota.

00:01:00.000 You should have not done this hunt

00:01:02.520 and gone to Minnesota with us.

00:01:04.000 For sure.

00:01:04.980 For sure.

00:01:05.920 Probably.

00:01:06.780 It's good to see, you know,

00:01:08.600 you need to have success

00:01:09.580 because you're 100% kill ratio right now

00:01:11.920 on your archery hunts.

00:01:13.360 So you better get after it this weekend.

00:01:15.880 And let's be honest,

00:01:16.880 the probability of me pulling this off

00:01:18.820 on my own in an unknown place

00:01:22.060 with almost no coaching

00:01:23.800 is probably not very high.

00:01:25.140 but I'm gonna do my best.

00:01:27.560 If anybody can do it, you can.

00:01:29.340 Yeah, I appreciate it.

00:01:30.660 I did ping Michael Merrill

00:01:32.520 and I said,

00:01:34.200 hey, have you ever had a tag

00:01:36.580 in the Wasatch front?

00:01:37.620 And he sent me some pins yesterday

00:01:39.600 and he's like, this is the spot.

00:01:41.020 So I'm actually kind of excited

00:01:42.760 and that he was willing

00:01:44.560 to kind of tell me, right?

00:01:46.800 Like I've seen a big buck

00:01:48.600 in this area year over year.

00:01:50.940 You know, I'm like, dude,

00:01:51.760 that's really awesome for him

00:01:52.900 to be willing to kind of share that with me,

00:01:55.140 you know, so.

00:01:56.700 I've found that about most communities,

00:01:59.500 whether it's jujitsu or hunting

00:02:01.260 or I'm sure it's the same

00:02:03.580 with chess and basket weaving communities.

00:02:06.600 I don't know,

00:02:07.020 whatever communities are out there

00:02:08.240 that the people love what they do so much.

00:02:12.920 They're so passionate about it

00:02:14.140 that they just want people involved.

00:02:15.980 And I know when it comes to hunting spots,

00:02:18.120 you have to be a little selective

00:02:19.340 and there are people

00:02:20.620 who probably aren't gonna give away

00:02:21.940 their best spots,

00:02:22.720 but they're still always willing

00:02:24.080 to help you out.

00:02:25.020 I think Mike actually got,

00:02:27.120 did he, he got a nice bull this year, didn't he?

00:02:29.320 Yeah, I think he landed on a large bull.

00:02:33.240 You know, Eric did too from Hush.

00:02:35.560 I saw that he posted

00:02:36.800 that he got a large elk bull with his bow.

00:02:40.340 So pretty awesome.

00:02:41.340 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:42.100 It's cool to see.

00:02:43.560 Well, brother,

00:02:44.100 why don't we get into some questions today?

00:02:45.520 I know we got some good ones

00:02:46.500 over on In the Iron Council

00:02:48.360 and also over at Facebook.

00:02:50.480 So let's get after it today.

00:02:51.360 Yeah, sounds good.

00:02:52.820 All right.

00:02:53.140 So our first question is from Tony.

00:02:56.240 How would you pronounce Tony's last name?

00:02:58.780 B-E-H-A-L. 0.92

00:03:01.400 Bahal? 0.86

00:03:02.020 Bethel, I think is what it is.

00:03:03.320 Bethel?

00:03:03.520 Oh, with the T-H in there.

00:03:04.940 Oh, no, sorry.

00:03:06.120 I was, no,

00:03:07.980 Bay Hall, I think is how you say it.

00:03:09.300 Bay Hall.

00:03:09.380 Sorry.

00:03:09.760 Okay.

00:03:10.540 Yeah, Tony, we're trying, man.

00:03:11.620 I think, I could be wrong.

00:03:12.460 Yeah.

00:03:12.880 Yeah, we're trying.

00:03:13.540 I probably shouldn't have spelt it online.

00:03:15.320 So now everybody listening now

00:03:17.200 has an opinion of the pronunciation.

00:03:20.400 And don't ask me.

00:03:21.640 I like that you mess them up

00:03:23.560 and I get to make fun of you.

00:03:24.540 But when you ask me,

00:03:25.320 I don't have any way to hide behind it.

00:03:26.820 I don't know how to pronounce it either.

00:03:28.040 Totally.

00:03:28.580 Full disclosure.

00:03:29.600 Let's be honest.

00:03:30.100 The only reason why I'm on here on these AMAs

00:03:34.020 is so I get,

00:03:35.420 I'm the escape goat

00:03:36.460 for pronouncing everybody's name wrong.

00:03:39.420 And then that way, 0.99

00:03:40.300 Ryan looks good and I look like crap. 0.99

00:03:42.380 So, yeah. 0.98

00:03:43.100 All right, Tony.

00:03:43.620 And you're also the,

00:03:44.680 you're also the good cop too, right?

00:03:46.380 So we'll play a little good cop, bad cop.

00:03:48.040 You're a lot more empathetic

00:03:49.060 in some things than I am.

00:03:50.200 So anyways, what's Tony got for us?

00:03:52.040 Okay.

00:03:52.440 So Tony's question,

00:03:53.660 Kip has talked about having a heart at war

00:03:55.620 towards those in our lives

00:03:57.020 and how that affects

00:03:58.140 even our subconscious actions towards them.

00:04:01.600 Specifically concerning our kids,

00:04:03.380 have either of you written a vision of,

00:04:05.620 a vision of your children,

00:04:07.760 not a vision for them,

00:04:09.280 but a vision of how you view them

00:04:11.420 to avoid that heart at war.

00:04:13.860 If there is a danger in pigeonholing them,

00:04:17.520 hopefully this makes sense.

00:04:19.020 Hit me up if needed.

00:04:20.440 Great question.

00:04:22.040 It is a good question.

00:04:23.460 I don't know.

00:04:24.340 I'd be a little careful

00:04:25.500 of writing a vision for them

00:04:28.620 because then you might have

00:04:30.680 some sort of expectation of them

00:04:33.340 that you now want them to live up to.

00:04:35.680 I think a better exercise

00:04:37.140 would be to write a vision

00:04:39.200 of how you are showing up in their life,

00:04:43.560 how you are presenting,

00:04:45.280 which I think is a little bit

00:04:46.540 what Tony's saying.

00:04:49.740 And that's always included

00:04:51.240 in the vision process

00:04:52.360 that we do inside the Iron Council anyways,

00:04:54.320 thinking about how you show up as a father,

00:04:56.760 how you show up as a husband,

00:04:58.180 how you show up as a business owner,

00:04:59.460 and how you approach your life.

00:05:01.100 We have, I look at it two different ways

00:05:03.340 when it comes to the vision.

00:05:04.440 There's the values-based vision,

00:05:08.200 and then there's the goal-based vision.

00:05:10.820 So values are your principles.

00:05:13.560 How am I going to show up?

00:05:15.020 What principles are important to me?

00:05:16.600 For example, courage is one

00:05:18.360 that comes to mind for me.

00:05:19.840 Being courageous, being bold,

00:05:22.280 taking good calculated risks.

00:05:25.000 That's a principle.

00:05:26.220 That's a value of mine.

00:05:27.600 And so I want to show up courageously

00:05:29.220 with my business and in my family life

00:05:31.440 and other aspects of my life.

00:05:33.500 A goal base would be,

00:05:35.000 I want to have, you know, 50 acres,

00:05:36.980 and I want to have a hunt club,

00:05:38.480 and I want to go on so many hunts,

00:05:39.960 and these are the things I want to be doing,

00:05:41.760 and this is what the house looks like.

00:05:43.720 Neither of them are wrong.

00:05:45.460 They both have their place,

00:05:47.080 but I do like the idea

00:05:48.700 of how you're going to show up

00:05:49.880 for your children

00:05:51.240 without that heart at war towards them,

00:05:55.340 you know, and that's hard to do,

00:05:56.740 especially as children get older, I've noticed.

00:05:59.860 My oldest is now 17,

00:06:01.420 so he's getting close to graduating next year,

00:06:03.580 and as my kids get older,

00:06:06.020 I see a lot more independence in them.

00:06:09.580 I see a little bit of rebelliousness,

00:06:12.460 a little bit of bucking

00:06:14.680 and pushing against authority,

00:06:16.900 and all of those are healthy, by the way,

00:06:19.980 and it's my job to help rein it in a little bit,

00:06:23.100 but I have noticed myself being conflicted

00:06:26.560 when I see that,

00:06:27.900 so that's something I can definitely work on.

00:06:30.940 Yeah, I love what you said, Ryan,

00:06:32.700 because let's be honest,

00:06:34.580 most of our heart at war towards them

00:06:36.760 is in the unmet expectations

00:06:39.540 of how we think they should be.

00:06:42.780 Mm-hmm, yeah.

00:06:44.300 That's where you're going to get sideways as a parent, right?

00:06:46.660 Your kid starts doing something

00:06:47.820 you don't think they should do, right?

00:06:51.020 And then you get sideways

00:06:52.180 versus I think if we're elusive,

00:06:55.460 I don't know, it's not elusive.

00:06:57.620 What's the word I'm looking for here?

00:07:00.360 Maybe curious about their growth

00:07:03.040 and what decisions they're making

00:07:04.980 and being open to the idea

00:07:07.140 that you and I, we all know this.

00:07:09.780 What's the best way to learn?

00:07:11.600 Through hardship and struggle and these things,

00:07:14.980 but yet we expect our kids

00:07:17.120 to be little minions that do what we say.

00:07:20.380 That's not how you grow,

00:07:22.000 not through compliance.

00:07:23.940 It's actually through choice, right,

00:07:26.180 that people learn and grow,

00:07:27.420 and your kids have to make choices

00:07:29.840 over and over again,

00:07:32.180 and are we in a position to help and guide them?

00:07:34.340 And I want to call this out

00:07:36.060 for those that have never heard that term before,

00:07:38.540 heart at war,

00:07:39.360 and why this is really important.

00:07:41.600 When you have a heart at war towards someone,

00:07:45.040 you have an upset about them.

00:07:46.780 My mindset around Ryan,

00:07:48.600 if I have a heart at war towards you,

00:07:50.560 it's going to show up in my behavior

00:07:52.460 and my relationship and my communication with you.

00:07:56.160 I'm going to stonewall you. 1.00

00:07:58.080 I'm not going to collaborate as much. 0.99

00:08:00.220 I'm going to punish you

00:08:02.340 in these little ways

00:08:04.300 because you're not doing what I want you to do.

00:08:06.660 It's going to affect my ability to do what?

00:08:09.540 To coach and speak into you, right?

00:08:13.420 We don't want a heart at war

00:08:14.560 because it hurts our effectiveness

00:08:16.600 of serving other people,

00:08:18.760 and that's the biggest thing.

00:08:21.080 It's not about control.

00:08:22.760 It's about are we in a position of influence

00:08:24.940 to support them,

00:08:26.060 and by having a mindset that,

00:08:29.520 and I like to say this,

00:08:30.780 I'm hesitant to use this language

00:08:33.240 because some people get sideways with it,

00:08:35.860 but I like to think of this idea

00:08:37.400 that they're whole and complete.

00:08:39.280 My kids, they're great.

00:08:40.900 They're divine.

00:08:41.680 They're amazing.

00:08:43.000 Oh, is he making mistakes?

00:08:44.060 Yeah, but I'm not going to withdraw my love

00:08:46.260 because they're making mistakes.

00:08:48.740 I'm going to see their divine potential always,

00:08:50.960 and that allows me to love them

00:08:53.080 unconditionally of circumstances

00:08:55.700 and those things,

00:08:56.660 and they feel that love,

00:08:58.000 and if they feel that love,

00:08:59.100 what can I do?

00:08:59.940 I can coach and guide them better

00:09:02.060 and more effectively.

00:09:04.100 Yeah.

00:09:05.060 Yeah, I think that's well said.

00:09:06.600 I like the word that you used.

00:09:07.940 You said curiosity.

00:09:09.180 I think when we are very curious

00:09:12.160 about the people we're leading,

00:09:13.380 they feel that they're important,

00:09:15.780 and that's the most important thing,

00:09:17.280 I think, when it comes to leadership,

00:09:18.440 whether it's in the walls of your home

00:09:20.040 or in the boardroom,

00:09:21.400 if your people know

00:09:22.760 that they are important to you,

00:09:25.260 that fixes everything else.

00:09:28.340 I remember years ago

00:09:29.560 when I was in the military

00:09:30.580 and our command had made a decision

00:09:34.900 that our section was going to do something 0.80

00:09:37.860 that was ridiculous 0.78

00:09:39.080 and we shouldn't have done 0.94

00:09:40.000 or shouldn't have to do,

00:09:41.860 and our section chief

00:09:43.760 put his neck out on the line

00:09:45.920 and he talked with command.

00:09:47.740 He's like, no, we're not going to do that.

00:09:48.840 We're going to do this instead.

00:09:50.520 And he went to bat for us

00:09:51.880 and he worked with command

00:09:52.940 and ended up changing the assignment

00:09:54.820 based on what I think was a good call.

00:09:58.520 I don't remember what it was.

00:10:00.260 I don't remember what the assignment was.

00:10:01.760 I don't remember what the assignment

00:10:02.880 that we ended up doing was.

00:10:04.400 All I remember thinking is,

00:10:06.700 oh, that guy will stick his neck out for us.

00:10:10.500 He didn't have to do that.

00:10:12.060 In fact, for him,

00:10:13.460 it probably would have been better

00:10:15.040 to toe the line

00:10:16.280 and just do what he was told,

00:10:17.440 but he didn't because he cared about us.

00:10:19.500 And that's the difference

00:10:20.720 that curiosity and interest

00:10:22.820 in other people creates.

00:10:25.040 There's one other resource

00:10:26.220 that I want to give.

00:10:27.440 Did you have a question

00:10:28.340 or a follow-up on that?

00:10:29.420 Yeah, I was just going to make

00:10:30.940 one quick comment.

00:10:32.140 You know, that's relational influence.

00:10:35.200 And I don't want to derail

00:10:36.780 what you're about to say,

00:10:38.080 but if you don't have relational influence,

00:10:40.960 what do you have?

00:10:43.480 If your people don't trust you

00:10:45.820 and they don't care,

00:10:47.160 what do you have?

00:10:48.760 And most leaders

00:10:50.120 in a position of authority,

00:10:51.340 all they have is uncertainty and fear.

00:10:54.100 They only have a stick.

00:10:54.880 Yeah, you have a stick.

00:10:55.660 That's it.

00:10:56.220 Right.

00:10:57.240 So, and that doesn't work out well.

00:10:59.480 We can all relate to how that feels, right?

00:11:02.160 So anyhow, that's all.

00:11:04.080 Yeah, I mean,

00:11:04.480 you can get people to comply.

00:11:06.740 Sure.

00:11:07.420 Depending on your position of authority.

00:11:08.880 I can get my kids to do the dishes.

00:11:11.200 I can get, you know,

00:11:12.880 an employee that I have

00:11:14.220 to do a certain thing

00:11:15.560 under the threat

00:11:17.260 of terminating their employment.

00:11:19.780 That's not commitment,

00:11:21.340 which is the difference

00:11:22.080 we often make,

00:11:22.960 commitment, compliance versus commitment.

00:11:25.320 One resource that's been really helpful

00:11:27.100 for me over the years,

00:11:28.020 and I actually don't know

00:11:28.980 where this book is.

00:11:29.680 I think I lost it in the move

00:11:30.940 several years ago,

00:11:32.440 but I just ordered it again this morning

00:11:34.400 is the book, Coactive Coaching.

00:11:37.300 If you guys haven't read that book,

00:11:38.980 Coactive Coaching,

00:11:39.940 it is such a powerful book

00:11:41.660 when it comes to leadership.

00:11:43.140 It's mostly around the arena of business,

00:11:45.700 but it's very applicable

00:11:47.080 in the way that we address our people,

00:11:49.360 whether it's your kids

00:11:50.100 or your employees

00:11:50.740 or whoever else it might be.

00:11:52.920 And it gives real world examples

00:11:54.940 and practical exercises

00:11:56.320 for being curious,

00:11:58.220 for asking questions,

00:11:59.300 for leading people

00:12:00.320 and letting them come up

00:12:02.240 with their own answers

00:12:03.200 and their own path.

00:12:04.860 It's a very interesting book.

00:12:06.000 So I'd highly suggest that one.

00:12:08.300 Yeah.

00:12:08.760 Yeah.

00:12:09.080 Coaching drives,

00:12:10.260 drives,

00:12:11.380 good coaching drives

00:12:12.500 self-directed behavior, right?

00:12:14.540 That's kind of like

00:12:15.700 one of the most powerful things

00:12:16.740 about that book.

00:12:17.160 You'd recommend that book to me

00:12:18.340 like five,

00:12:21.020 maybe seven years ago.

00:12:22.320 A really great book, actually.

00:12:24.280 Yeah.

00:12:24.600 Thanks for that, by the way.

00:12:25.620 I don't know if I've ever told you.

00:12:26.620 Yeah, it's powerful.

00:12:27.400 It's really powerful.

00:12:28.540 All right.

00:12:28.960 Shane Newman.

00:12:30.020 Shane, brand new.

00:12:31.280 You didn't.

00:12:31.800 I was waiting for that.

00:12:32.820 It's been seven years coming,

00:12:34.080 but you finally did.

00:12:36.500 Shane Newman,

00:12:37.640 a question,

00:12:38.340 new member of the IC,

00:12:39.420 by the way.

00:12:40.540 So kind of fun

00:12:41.600 that Shane's jumping in

00:12:42.580 and asking questions here.

00:12:44.120 If the IC never happened,

00:12:46.780 what would have been

00:12:47.860 the tactics used

00:12:48.900 to keep yourself

00:12:49.740 driven and grounded?

00:12:52.200 If, you know,

00:12:52.800 if the Iron Council

00:12:53.500 wasn't around,

00:12:54.500 it would actually be

00:12:55.540 the same thing

00:12:56.500 I'm doing now.

00:12:57.180 I am involved

00:12:58.940 in other programs.

00:13:00.080 I do have coaches.

00:13:01.700 I hire coaches

00:13:03.340 temporarily

00:13:04.160 for little things

00:13:06.540 that I might need

00:13:07.240 on marketing,

00:13:08.220 for example,

00:13:08.840 or some other activity

00:13:10.400 that I'm interested in.

00:13:11.540 I invest in programs

00:13:13.480 and courses.

00:13:14.460 I have a group of guys

00:13:15.320 that I talk with

00:13:16.200 once a month

00:13:17.220 and we're hashing out.

00:13:18.640 I just had a call

00:13:19.200 with them two days ago

00:13:20.820 and we're hashing out

00:13:22.380 things that we're concerned about.

00:13:23.700 We're hashing out

00:13:24.280 business stuff.

00:13:24.980 So I would do

00:13:26.380 the same thing.

00:13:27.020 The Iron Council is great

00:13:28.120 because I get a lot of value

00:13:30.640 from what I do

00:13:31.200 in the Iron Council,

00:13:32.040 but it's a place

00:13:32.640 that I can share

00:13:34.280 what I know

00:13:34.980 with other men

00:13:35.880 and they can gain benefit

00:13:37.740 from the work

00:13:38.720 that we're doing here.

00:13:40.040 So that's a place

00:13:41.480 that I would say

00:13:42.000 is largely for others,

00:13:43.620 even though I get

00:13:44.740 a ton of value from it,

00:13:45.780 but I do the same

00:13:46.880 types of things

00:13:47.720 in other settings,

00:13:49.240 in other organizations,

00:13:50.460 hire coaches,

00:13:51.320 go to conferences,

00:13:54.620 be involved in courses.

00:13:57.020 So I do all that

00:13:58.340 as it is.

00:13:59.520 Yeah,

00:13:59.920 the way I see it is

00:14:00.800 I am the Iron Council,

00:14:02.700 right?

00:14:02.920 Like what we do here

00:14:04.060 works.

00:14:04.780 So that's what we do.

00:14:06.340 Like if I were part

00:14:07.300 of the Iron Council,

00:14:08.140 I'd have a battle plan.

00:14:10.340 I'd be executing

00:14:11.240 the battle plan.

00:14:12.200 I'd probably find

00:14:13.160 a group of guys

00:14:14.020 to meet with

00:14:14.820 on a regular basis

00:14:15.780 to help hold me.

00:14:17.020 Like I would follow

00:14:18.940 what we do

00:14:19.720 because it's what works.

00:14:20.880 Right.

00:14:21.860 Yeah.

00:14:22.540 Yeah.

00:14:22.780 Straightforward.

00:14:23.260 I think the same.

00:14:24.320 And so if the Iron Council

00:14:25.300 went away one day

00:14:26.320 for whatever reason,

00:14:27.700 I would hope

00:14:29.300 that everybody there

00:14:30.220 would continue

00:14:30.860 to do the same work

00:14:31.600 they're doing now.

00:14:32.460 Yeah.

00:14:33.000 Yeah,

00:14:33.260 absolutely.

00:14:34.040 Yeah.

00:14:34.580 Dustin Stokes,

00:14:35.840 I think as dads

00:14:37.080 we sometimes struggle

00:14:38.260 or at least I do

00:14:39.400 in connecting

00:14:39.960 with my sons

00:14:40.660 naturally and emotionally.

00:14:42.500 It's probably normal

00:14:43.700 in the teenage season,

00:14:44.840 but sometimes I struggle

00:14:45.900 finding conversation topics

00:14:47.320 to get us engaged

00:14:48.440 and talking.

00:14:49.520 It's almost like

00:14:50.440 they don't want to hear

00:14:51.520 all the cool business owners

00:14:53.620 I've met

00:14:54.180 and their general

00:14:55.000 liability policies

00:14:56.240 and I don't understand

00:14:57.540 or appreciate

00:14:59.320 the value behind six, seven.

00:15:03.320 Curious if y'all have advice

00:15:04.740 to get conversations

00:15:06.160 going with our sons.

00:15:08.080 What's with the six, seven thing?

00:15:09.820 What is that all about?

00:15:11.200 I actually had to look this up.

00:15:12.040 Dude, like my six-year-old,

00:15:13.520 we're in the kitchen,

00:15:14.240 he goes,

00:15:14.980 I'm like,

00:15:15.220 dude, what are you doing?

00:15:15.840 He's like,

00:15:16.440 I don't know,

00:15:17.360 six, seven.

00:15:18.140 And I'm like, 0.99

00:15:19.120 what the crap? 0.99

00:15:20.080 What does that mean? 1.00

00:15:20.740 And they're all laughing.

00:15:21.760 I'm like,

00:15:22.240 I don't even understand

00:15:23.260 what's going on.

00:15:24.420 Some basketball player online,

00:15:27.480 like, I don't know,

00:15:28.400 he said something about,

00:15:29.460 I don't know how tall I am.

00:15:30.720 Oh, I'm six, seven

00:15:31.660 or something like that.

00:15:32.960 And then everyone's latched onto it

00:15:34.820 and there's all these memes.

00:15:35.840 Something. 0.99

00:15:36.760 It's so dumb. 0.98

00:15:37.640 I'm sure I just ruined it, 0.99

00:15:39.200 but it's something like that.

00:15:40.000 Yeah.

00:15:40.860 Yeah.

00:15:42.840 It's amazing how often

00:15:44.220 I say six, seven

00:15:45.680 without realizing it

00:15:47.020 because every time I do,

00:15:47.940 my kids laugh

00:15:48.620 and I'm like,

00:15:49.020 did I say it again?

00:15:49.920 And I just say it

00:15:50.660 in random conversation.

00:15:52.240 So I realized

00:15:53.500 that I say that a lot.

00:15:55.780 You know,

00:15:56.440 here's the thing

00:15:57.320 that I'm learning

00:15:58.240 and I'm not an expert

00:16:00.100 at this by any means,

00:16:01.500 but as my children get older,

00:16:04.920 I'm a pretty intense person.

00:16:07.760 And so I want to have

00:16:09.420 deep conversations.

00:16:10.680 I want to get

00:16:11.280 to the root of problems.

00:16:12.420 I want to solve every issue.

00:16:15.220 I want my kids

00:16:16.060 to perform well.

00:16:16.980 I've put a lot of pressure

00:16:17.800 on my oldest lately

00:16:18.780 because he's getting close

00:16:20.880 to being out of the house.

00:16:22.100 And when I have

00:16:23.940 those serious conversations,

00:16:25.200 the walls go up.

00:16:26.540 They do.

00:16:27.120 And one thing

00:16:27.880 that I'm working on lately

00:16:29.300 is being able

00:16:31.260 to have fun

00:16:32.120 and just being able

00:16:35.200 to enjoy.

00:16:36.220 I talked a little bit

00:16:36.940 about that little moped

00:16:38.060 that I bought

00:16:38.680 several weeks ago.

00:16:40.360 And my youngest son and I,

00:16:41.760 man, we just love

00:16:42.500 to scoot around on that. 0.56

00:16:43.820 And we have

00:16:44.660 great conversations

00:16:46.220 and we laugh about it.

00:16:47.260 And then this weekend

00:16:47.880 I bought a new carburetor for it.

00:16:49.360 So my second son and I,

00:16:51.060 he's really into cars.

00:16:52.180 I don't know anything

00:16:52.820 about mechanics

00:16:53.680 or motors or engine.

00:16:54.860 I don't know anything.

00:16:56.060 So, but we're going

00:16:57.060 to do that together.

00:16:57.660 We're going to figure

00:16:58.140 it out together.

00:16:58.620 We're going to put

00:16:59.120 that carburetor in.

00:17:02.140 And I'm sure conversations

00:17:03.820 will come as we do it,

00:17:05.460 but I'm not doing it

00:17:07.000 for the conversations.

00:17:08.040 I'm doing it

00:17:08.940 for the connection.

00:17:10.420 And I think this goes back

00:17:11.580 to our previous question

00:17:12.780 about curiosity.

00:17:14.980 I don't want to hear

00:17:16.260 people lecture me.

00:17:18.380 You don't want to hear

00:17:19.520 people lecture you.

00:17:21.460 Unsolicited advice

00:17:22.440 in the history of humankind

00:17:23.580 has never been appreciated.

00:17:25.760 So why do we as fathers

00:17:27.920 think that our children

00:17:29.240 would appreciate it from us?

00:17:31.880 So I think the better approach

00:17:33.820 and at least this is

00:17:34.780 what I'm learning

00:17:35.380 and implementing

00:17:36.080 and it seems to be working

00:17:37.020 is just being curious

00:17:38.380 about their day,

00:17:40.700 about what they're up to,

00:17:42.240 find ways to laugh

00:17:43.740 and joke and play

00:17:44.680 and smile together.

00:17:45.940 And I think as a byproduct

00:17:47.840 of the trust

00:17:48.760 that you're building

00:17:49.440 with them

00:17:49.920 through those exercises,

00:17:51.080 the conversations

00:17:52.560 will start taking place.

00:17:53.960 At least that's been

00:17:54.780 my experience.

00:17:56.160 Yeah, and I think

00:17:57.580 once you're doing that,

00:17:59.200 the opportunities

00:17:59.800 for common interests

00:18:01.360 or understanding

00:18:02.560 what they want

00:18:03.080 to talk about

00:18:03.720 will show up.

00:18:04.540 I have three older boys

00:18:05.600 all out of the house.

00:18:06.780 I've dealt with all three

00:18:07.920 of them being teenagers

00:18:09.020 and there's times

00:18:10.500 during that teenage season

00:18:11.720 that like they don't

00:18:12.940 want to talk to me,

00:18:13.760 right?

00:18:14.260 Like I'm kind of grabbing

00:18:15.860 for straws, right?

00:18:17.100 To have something.

00:18:19.760 But kind of some part

00:18:21.560 of this is like

00:18:22.180 elevate your game, right?

00:18:24.380 It's like,

00:18:25.080 oh, they don't want

00:18:25.840 to hang out with me.

00:18:26.620 Well, maybe you're doing

00:18:27.340 lame stuff.

00:18:30.100 Maybe you do

00:18:31.280 an awesome backpacking trip

00:18:32.920 and all of a sudden

00:18:33.500 the boys are like

00:18:34.360 perking up going,

00:18:35.560 oh, I want to go.

00:18:36.800 I mean, you might

00:18:37.640 have to level up, right?

00:18:39.500 And sacrifice 0.99

00:18:40.160 and do cool shit 0.95

00:18:41.320 to get them to want 0.69

00:18:42.760 to like kind of

00:18:43.800 spend some time with you.

00:18:45.860 The other thing

00:18:46.460 I'd add to this

00:18:47.200 is there's a season

00:18:48.420 to this, right?

00:18:50.260 Like my son Ian,

00:18:51.860 you know,

00:18:52.200 probably his teenage years,

00:18:53.640 I didn't know,

00:18:55.360 I don't know,

00:18:55.780 we couldn't have

00:18:56.460 in-depth conversations.

00:18:57.540 I knew I could talk

00:18:58.720 to him about anything

00:18:59.540 around Star Wars

00:19:00.520 and we were good.

00:19:01.300 Like we could talk forever

00:19:02.500 if it was related

00:19:03.660 to Star Wars.

00:19:05.200 Now, man,

00:19:06.680 I mentioned a good book

00:19:07.980 like The Untethered Soul.

00:19:10.980 Dude, him and I

00:19:11.920 will talk for hours

00:19:13.120 on The Fourth Agreement

00:19:15.300 and Untethered Soul

00:19:16.360 and Stoicism

00:19:17.180 because that's,

00:19:18.560 he's evolved.

00:19:19.600 I was curious

00:19:20.720 and he evolved

00:19:23.200 and there's a new version

00:19:24.300 of him

00:19:24.740 that I'm connecting with

00:19:25.800 that didn't exist,

00:19:27.360 of course,

00:19:28.500 when he was a teenager.

00:19:29.500 And so understand

00:19:31.740 there's times and seasons

00:19:32.740 and you might have

00:19:33.420 to level up your game.

00:19:34.480 I actually have

00:19:35.180 a funny story.

00:19:36.240 It's not a teenager story

00:19:37.320 but like if you don't

00:19:38.480 mind me sharing it,

00:19:39.180 it's quite hilarious.

00:19:40.440 So my wife's dad

00:19:42.600 and he luckily

00:19:43.340 doesn't listen to the podcast

00:19:44.240 so he won't judge me

00:19:46.220 for this.

00:19:46.840 I'm going to send him

00:19:47.440 a link.

00:19:48.140 But he's a tinker,

00:19:50.520 right?

00:19:51.060 Like he'll see

00:19:52.080 a motorcycle sitting there

00:19:53.100 and he'll be like,

00:19:54.000 we should repair that.

00:19:55.520 And I'm like,

00:19:56.080 dude,

00:19:56.260 it doesn't need

00:19:56.680 to be repaired.

00:19:57.120 But he'll want to

00:19:58.160 take it apart

00:19:58.880 and work on it,

00:20:00.040 right?

00:20:01.140 It's his thing

00:20:02.040 and he's retired

00:20:03.500 and he looks for value

00:20:05.040 in doing those things.

00:20:07.540 And we're getting ready

00:20:08.960 at the end of the summer

00:20:09.860 and we're like,

00:20:10.720 oh,

00:20:10.860 what's winterized the boat?

00:20:13.380 And he goes,

00:20:14.520 I think the alternator's bad.

00:20:16.580 We need to replace 0.98

00:20:17.360 that alternator.

00:20:18.080 I'm thinking,

00:20:18.740 I don't think the alternator's,

00:20:20.140 I don't think anything's wrong

00:20:21.220 with the alternator.

00:20:22.120 Like I don't think

00:20:23.540 we should touch the boat

00:20:24.580 at all,

00:20:25.400 right?

00:20:26.220 And he's like,

00:20:26.820 nah,

00:20:26.980 I'm pretty sure

00:20:27.520 the alternator's bad.

00:20:28.580 I'm like,

00:20:29.160 and I thought about it

00:20:31.180 and I thought,

00:20:32.040 you know what?

00:20:33.800 You want to come down

00:20:34.960 to the lake house

00:20:35.840 and you want to take out

00:20:36.920 the alternator

00:20:37.640 and we spend the weekend

00:20:39.080 together trying

00:20:39.740 to repair the boat.

00:20:41.880 Let's do it.

00:20:43.460 And now,

00:20:44.160 full disclosure,

00:20:44.980 I did that

00:20:45.860 knowing

00:20:46.480 that I'll probably

00:20:48.660 get a new alternator,

00:20:49.960 we'll probably put it in,

00:20:51.760 the boat won't work

00:20:53.360 and then it'll be like

00:20:54.560 a downward spiral

00:20:55.760 and then I'll end up

00:20:56.580 getting rid of the boat

00:20:57.240 and having to buy a new one,

00:20:58.120 right?

00:20:58.380 Like full disclosure,

00:21:00.240 I'm afraid

00:21:00.700 that's your plan all along.

00:21:01.940 That's your plan all along.

00:21:03.380 Get a new boat.

00:21:04.720 Possibly.

00:21:05.140 Got it.

00:21:05.500 Got it.

00:21:06.080 But the chances

00:21:06.900 of this going well

00:21:08.240 for me

00:21:10.280 is low.

00:21:12.140 Yeah.

00:21:12.620 But guess what?

00:21:15.060 That's,

00:21:15.420 you know what?

00:21:15.900 Let's take out

00:21:16.820 the alternator,

00:21:18.140 right?

00:21:18.380 Let's do this.

00:21:19.000 It'll be fun.

00:21:20.060 You know?

00:21:20.460 Yeah.

00:21:20.640 And I learned some stuff

00:21:21.700 and it's what he wants to do.

00:21:22.620 So I mean,

00:21:24.480 I've got similar stories,

00:21:25.940 you know,

00:21:26.080 my,

00:21:26.440 my oldest,

00:21:27.260 for whatever reason,

00:21:28.220 like three weeks ago,

00:21:29.640 he he's like,

00:21:31.420 Hey dad,

00:21:31.640 I'm going to go golf.

00:21:32.420 I'm like,

00:21:32.640 you don't golf.

00:21:33.400 He's like,

00:21:33.920 yeah,

00:21:34.040 but I'm going golfing.

00:21:35.100 I'm like,

00:21:35.540 all right,

00:21:35.860 have fun.

00:21:37.100 And he's really been

00:21:37.980 getting into it.

00:21:38.520 He's like,

00:21:38.900 and I used to golf

00:21:39.800 before I moved to Maine.

00:21:41.600 I did.

00:21:42.160 And when I was doing

00:21:42.780 my financial planning stuff,

00:21:43.920 cause that's how

00:21:44.460 financial professionals

00:21:45.480 network over golf.

00:21:47.240 Yeah.

00:21:47.740 And so I got into it

00:21:48.820 and I,

00:21:49.040 and I loved it and it,

00:21:49.960 but it's been probably

00:21:50.540 six,

00:21:50.960 seven years.

00:21:51.500 See,

00:21:52.060 I just said at six,

00:21:52.880 seven.

00:21:54.020 Um,

00:21:54.520 and,

00:21:56.380 uh,

00:21:57.620 and he asked me the other day,

00:21:59.080 he said,

00:21:59.280 dad,

00:21:59.460 do you want to go golf?

00:22:01.140 And I said,

00:22:01.580 I don't golf.

00:22:02.160 He's like,

00:22:02.500 yeah,

00:22:02.640 but I want to go.

00:22:03.220 I'm like,

00:22:03.500 all right,

00:22:03.760 let's go.

00:22:04.780 And so we went

00:22:05.720 and we had a great time.

00:22:06.900 We've been golfing

00:22:07.540 in the past couple of weeks,

00:22:08.600 uh,

00:22:09.140 once a week

00:22:09.840 for the past couple of weeks.

00:22:10.740 So we've been out twice

00:22:11.580 and it's fun.

00:22:14.240 And one last,

00:22:15.560 last time we went out,

00:22:16.400 he was having a really bad round

00:22:17.840 and he was getting frustrated.

00:22:19.680 And there you go.

00:22:20.400 There's an opportunity

00:22:21.340 for a life lesson.

00:22:22.920 Hey,

00:22:23.260 bud,

00:22:23.620 like,

00:22:24.300 you know what?

00:22:25.040 You got to chalk up that loss

00:22:26.580 because it just,

00:22:28.340 it's over.

00:22:29.120 It is what it is.

00:22:29.960 Now you have to recenter,

00:22:30.900 refocus.

00:22:31.760 And we're having these like

00:22:32.980 little life conversations

00:22:34.820 between holes.

00:22:36.360 And it's not like I trapped him

00:22:38.440 in the car for hours

00:22:39.420 to talk about why he needs

00:22:40.580 to be resilient.

00:22:41.780 It was just in the moment,

00:22:43.100 just a quick little thing

00:22:44.180 in real time.

00:22:45.300 And he did fine.

00:22:46.120 You know,

00:22:46.960 um,

00:22:47.700 my youngest son

00:22:48.540 is hugely into Pokemon.

00:22:50.740 I don't care about Pokemon,

00:22:52.200 but he does.

00:22:53.740 And so there's a local card shop

00:22:56.320 that he really likes.

00:22:57.160 So we went there

00:22:57.880 and I,

00:22:59.180 again,

00:22:59.240 I don't care about it.

00:23:00.420 I care about him,

00:23:01.280 but he spent an hour with me

00:23:03.880 at that card shop

00:23:04.740 showing me all the different things.

00:23:06.420 And he was telling me

00:23:07.500 what cards are what

00:23:08.580 and how expensive this one is

00:23:10.240 relative to this one.

00:23:11.300 And then how you're supposed

00:23:12.460 to put the Pokemon cards

00:23:13.940 in the binder the right way.

00:23:15.700 Because if you don't,

00:23:16.820 it'll crease the edges

00:23:17.960 and then the value of the card.

00:23:19.840 He's nine,

00:23:21.220 but he's into it.

00:23:22.500 And so I'm into it.

00:23:24.060 And then we can have conversations, 0.85

00:23:25.760 silly conversations like,

00:23:27.940 you know, 0.95

00:23:28.280 what,

00:23:28.500 what would Charizard do

00:23:29.700 in this situation?

00:23:32.280 And like,

00:23:33.020 that's a real conversation

00:23:34.320 that you can have

00:23:35.180 about critical decision-making.

00:23:38.040 Or,

00:23:39.020 you know,

00:23:39.400 when you were talking

00:23:40.140 about your son in Star Wars,

00:23:41.460 hey,

00:23:41.700 you know,

00:23:41.940 if Darth Vader was faced

00:23:43.060 with these two options,

00:23:44.420 what do you,

00:23:44.800 what do you think

00:23:45.300 Darth Vader would do

00:23:46.380 in that situation?

00:23:48.460 That's a way more

00:23:49.560 compelling conversation

00:23:50.660 for a nine-year-old

00:23:51.940 than,

00:23:52.880 hey,

00:23:53.080 son,

00:23:53.480 let me sit down

00:23:54.600 and talk with you

00:23:55.300 about the dichotomy

00:23:56.200 of decision-making.

00:23:57.500 And then you lecture him

00:23:58.800 for the next hour.

00:24:00.160 So I think there's

00:24:00.800 some creative ways

00:24:01.580 to do it here.

00:24:02.680 That's funny.

00:24:03.480 You know,

00:24:03.700 Kiave's always 1.00

00:24:04.740 trying to get me

00:24:05.400 to play golf.

00:24:06.360 And I play,

00:24:08.400 I enjoy watching him.

00:24:09.720 I get mad.

00:24:11.200 And so I'm like,

00:24:11.900 I'm putting myself

00:24:13.180 in the fire

00:24:14.420 to go play golf

00:24:15.620 with you 1.00

00:24:15.860 because I suck so bad. 1.00

00:24:17.300 but he's so good 0.99

00:24:18.880 about it,

00:24:20.020 right?

00:24:20.360 And it's,

00:24:21.060 you know,

00:24:21.380 you sacrifice the rep.

00:24:23.020 So if you guys

00:24:23.640 end up playing golf

00:24:24.260 up north,

00:24:24.720 let me know

00:24:25.100 because Kiave's

00:24:25.720 all about playing

00:24:26.440 some rounds.

00:24:27.140 So we'll play

00:24:27.660 with you guys.

00:24:28.020 Let's do it.

00:24:28.360 I'm in for sure.

00:24:29.500 For sure.

00:24:29.940 All right.

00:24:30.580 All right. 1.00

00:24:30.900 We beat that one to death. 0.98

00:24:32.080 Yeah.

00:24:32.240 Yeah.

00:24:32.440 Sorry.

00:24:32.980 William Pinnell.

00:24:34.680 This is a person.

00:24:39.160 Oh,

00:24:39.660 here we go.

00:24:39.980 Hold on.

00:24:40.640 I'm jacking up.

00:24:42.000 I read this question.

00:24:42.940 He's,

00:24:43.220 he's,

00:24:43.540 he's good.

00:24:44.060 Go ahead and read

00:24:44.500 that question.

00:24:45.260 Okay.

00:24:45.520 Am I good reading

00:24:46.160 the question

00:24:46.640 or is he one?

00:24:47.400 Yeah,

00:24:47.420 read the question.

00:24:48.340 Okay.

00:24:49.080 No,

00:24:49.280 no,

00:24:49.400 no.

00:24:49.660 He's talking about me

00:24:50.900 because it's a personal

00:24:51.860 question towards me.

00:24:53.140 Oh,

00:24:53.160 got it.

00:24:53.480 Got it.

00:24:53.740 I just like thought

00:24:54.580 I name dropped him

00:24:55.600 and then I'm like,

00:24:56.280 ah,

00:24:56.620 now we're not going

00:24:57.380 to cover this question.

00:24:58.280 Okay.

00:24:58.540 Got it.

00:24:58.900 It's a personal question

00:24:59.580 for Ryan.

00:25:00.660 All right.

00:25:01.080 When you look back

00:25:01.980 at the episodes

00:25:02.880 when you were

00:25:03.640 under the influence,

00:25:05.980 how,

00:25:06.340 um,

00:25:06.700 how to,

00:25:07.580 how to you view

00:25:09.240 those interviews?

00:25:09.940 How do you,

00:25:10.580 uh,

00:25:11.360 view those interviews

00:25:12.260 and episodes?

00:25:15.380 Yeah.

00:25:15.940 I,

00:25:16.200 you know,

00:25:16.380 I've got a lot

00:25:16.860 of feelings about that.

00:25:17.920 When I was drinking,

00:25:18.660 it was,

00:25:19.500 I convinced myself

00:25:22.040 that I was a better

00:25:23.300 interviewer when I was

00:25:24.700 inebriated

00:25:26.060 because I was more

00:25:27.940 casual,

00:25:28.620 more loose,

00:25:29.320 maybe more confrontational

00:25:30.760 in certain things.

00:25:32.020 Um,

00:25:32.460 and now I realize

00:25:34.920 that's not true.

00:25:36.240 You know,

00:25:36.520 we hear that,

00:25:37.220 you know,

00:25:37.520 alcohol being the social

00:25:38.680 lubricant and there's

00:25:40.440 certainly an element of

00:25:41.500 that because your

00:25:42.060 inhibitions tend to be

00:25:44.640 less,

00:25:45.780 right?

00:25:46.060 Like,

00:25:46.320 or,

00:25:46.480 or yeah,

00:25:47.540 you're,

00:25:47.780 you're just more likely

00:25:48.640 to do and say whatever

00:25:51.020 comes to your mind,

00:25:51.820 whatever you want to do

00:25:52.540 and say.

00:25:53.160 So in some ways I've

00:25:55.280 was able to convince

00:25:56.420 myself that I was more

00:25:57.400 creative,

00:25:57.760 a better podcaster.

00:25:58.600 Um,

00:26:00.080 and you know,

00:26:01.160 I did,

00:26:01.560 I did fairly well,

00:26:02.720 all things considered

00:26:03.680 in those,

00:26:04.280 in those moments.

00:26:05.100 Um,

00:26:05.500 but I don't really feel

00:26:07.120 like looking back on it

00:26:08.120 now that I was doing

00:26:09.460 any justice to my guests.

00:26:10.940 I was,

00:26:11.380 it was completely

00:26:12.060 disrespectful,

00:26:12.740 uh,

00:26:14.060 to,

00:26:14.320 to not be fully

00:26:16.540 present.

00:26:18.160 Um,

00:26:18.740 there,

00:26:19.020 there was moments

00:26:19.680 that I remember

00:26:20.320 where I would

00:26:21.020 like,

00:26:22.140 just kind of

00:26:22.780 go blank

00:26:24.060 and lose focus

00:26:25.500 because I was drinking.

00:26:27.640 So it was disrespectful

00:26:29.440 to my guests

00:26:30.780 and it was disrespectful

00:26:31.820 to you guys,

00:26:32.680 the people listening

00:26:33.380 because I wasn't

00:26:34.820 fully there

00:26:35.560 and able to have

00:26:36.400 the types of conversations

00:26:37.560 that I told you guys

00:26:39.520 I would have

00:26:40.060 and that you deserve.

00:26:41.020 So I'm not embarrassed,

00:26:43.960 but by those episodes,

00:26:45.740 I wouldn't say embarrassed,

00:26:47.120 but ashamed.

00:26:48.700 Yeah,

00:26:49.220 for sure.

00:26:50.180 And yeah,

00:26:51.580 that was tough.

00:26:52.780 And I appreciate

00:26:53.840 that Ryan,

00:26:54.740 but like,

00:26:55.200 I don't know,

00:26:55.760 like we always

00:26:57.300 put everything

00:26:58.020 black and white,

00:26:58.760 right?

00:26:58.940 It's like,

00:26:59.300 oh my gosh,

00:27:00.060 you were,

00:27:00.700 you were still

00:27:02.540 trying to engage

00:27:03.520 the client.

00:27:04.020 You're still having

00:27:04.800 a meaningful conversation.

00:27:06.300 Like you're trying

00:27:08.500 now,

00:27:09.120 could you have

00:27:10.280 shown up better?

00:27:11.900 Of course,

00:27:13.500 in the same breath.

00:27:14.960 How many conversations

00:27:15.940 am I going to have today

00:27:17.220 where I'm distracted,

00:27:19.120 where I'm sedating myself

00:27:20.580 with social media

00:27:21.440 mid conversation?

00:27:22.780 Where I'm not

00:27:23.480 fully tentative

00:27:24.580 to the individual

00:27:25.460 I'm talking to?

00:27:27.100 Oh,

00:27:27.420 but we're not going

00:27:28.000 to talk about those.

00:27:29.520 Look,

00:27:30.180 I mean,

00:27:30.860 you know,

00:27:31.260 and I appreciate you

00:27:32.340 like,

00:27:33.280 like taking that on,

00:27:34.720 like,

00:27:34.940 man,

00:27:35.320 you know,

00:27:35.760 it was not valuable

00:27:37.060 like,

00:27:37.340 or my,

00:27:38.300 my podcast guests,

00:27:39.580 but in the same breath,

00:27:40.420 it's like,

00:27:41.060 but you still had

00:27:41.880 a meaningful conversation.

00:27:43.060 You just weren't

00:27:44.100 fully there

00:27:45.040 as much as you

00:27:45.800 could have been.

00:27:46.340 and whether we're

00:27:48.240 drinking or not,

00:27:49.060 I would challenge

00:27:50.240 everybody.

00:27:50.740 I'm not trying

00:27:51.260 to justify

00:27:52.000 those past episodes

00:27:53.900 for you,

00:27:54.640 but everyone listening

00:27:56.020 should be like,

00:27:56.640 well,

00:27:56.740 how often

00:27:57.320 am I sedating

00:27:58.360 myself

00:27:58.900 in other ways

00:28:00.220 and not being

00:28:01.200 fully present

00:28:01.900 to my kids

00:28:02.900 and,

00:28:03.200 and to people

00:28:04.080 I'm having

00:28:04.540 conversations with?

00:28:05.580 Call it alcohol,

00:28:06.540 call it something else,

00:28:07.360 but let's be honest.

00:28:08.580 Most of us

00:28:09.380 are not

00:28:09.780 fully present

00:28:11.040 and stepping up,

00:28:12.640 you know,

00:28:13.720 fully,

00:28:14.540 right?

00:28:14.780 In all that we do

00:28:15.580 and,

00:28:15.940 and that's a lesson

00:28:16.720 for all of us

00:28:17.220 regardless.

00:28:18.960 And I think we're,

00:28:19.920 I think we're,

00:28:20.420 I think we both

00:28:21.000 have valid points,

00:28:21.940 right?

00:28:22.980 Your,

00:28:23.500 your point is valid

00:28:24.400 and that,

00:28:26.400 and I've been distracted

00:28:27.380 with other things

00:28:28.240 since then too.

00:28:30.060 So,

00:28:30.480 I mean,

00:28:30.680 I hear what you're saying

00:28:31.420 and it's valid

00:28:31.940 and also what I'm saying

00:28:33.440 is valid

00:28:33.860 because we do need

00:28:35.360 to evaluate

00:28:35.860 our performance

00:28:36.700 and we do need

00:28:37.900 to ask ourselves

00:28:38.660 if we're showing up

00:28:39.340 properly.

00:28:39.780 So,

00:28:40.280 you know,

00:28:40.540 I did have

00:28:41.360 good conversations

00:28:42.300 and clearly

00:28:43.040 they were valuable

00:28:43.760 to people who listen

00:28:44.720 because the podcast

00:28:45.660 is doing very well.

00:28:47.220 But I still feel like

00:28:48.500 there was a level

00:28:49.160 of disrespect.

00:28:50.120 You know,

00:28:50.340 if we were,

00:28:50.860 if we were sitting around

00:28:51.780 having drinks together

00:28:52.800 having a conversation,

00:28:53.840 that to me

00:28:54.860 wouldn't be disrespectful

00:28:55.840 because we're doing

00:28:56.520 it together

00:28:57.040 and everybody knows

00:28:58.380 the game is being played.

00:28:59.360 But the fact you were

00:28:59.460 and they weren't.

00:29:00.260 Yeah.

00:29:01.380 That's,

00:29:01.940 that's,

00:29:02.400 to me that's a problem.

00:29:03.440 You know,

00:29:03.620 you think about like

00:29:04.480 Joe Rogan

00:29:05.240 is notorious

00:29:06.900 for getting high

00:29:08.340 while he's doing interviews.

00:29:09.420 Well,

00:29:09.580 everybody knows it

00:29:10.580 and sometimes

00:29:11.580 his guests

00:29:12.000 are getting high

00:29:12.480 with him.

00:29:13.400 So,

00:29:14.180 that's not quite

00:29:15.560 the same thing.

00:29:18.300 I think that's

00:29:19.120 where the difference is.

00:29:20.400 Yeah,

00:29:20.700 I see that.

00:29:21.380 I see that.

00:29:22.440 All right,

00:29:22.900 Matt Wren,

00:29:23.740 another new member

00:29:24.460 of the IC,

00:29:26.140 looking for the best way

00:29:28.060 to connect with my wife

00:29:29.380 in a way

00:29:29.740 that she doesn't feel

00:29:30.580 like it's a checklist,

00:29:32.400 especially when I use

00:29:33.520 checklists

00:29:34.000 to accomplish

00:29:34.660 most of what I do

00:29:35.820 throughout my life.

00:29:37.680 Yeah.

00:29:38.500 Well,

00:29:38.900 I mean,

00:29:39.120 there's nothing wrong

00:29:39.860 with checklists

00:29:40.580 and there's nothing wrong

00:29:41.480 with making things

00:29:43.340 and people,

00:29:44.280 your wife in this case,

00:29:45.260 a priority.

00:29:46.180 And she should be

00:29:47.900 on your checklist

00:29:48.520 if I'm being honest.

00:29:50.360 She should be

00:29:50.900 one of the things

00:29:51.700 that you're trying

00:29:52.800 to pay attention to

00:29:54.020 and prioritize.

00:29:55.760 I don't think

00:29:56.520 that's the problem.

00:29:58.180 When,

00:29:59.200 a lot of times

00:30:00.200 when we do,

00:30:00.860 when I hear checklist

00:30:02.180 or to-do list

00:30:03.780 or I'm checking

00:30:04.620 it off the list,

00:30:05.980 usually there's no

00:30:07.840 heart and soul

00:30:08.680 in that.

00:30:11.080 There's,

00:30:11.500 there's no emotion

00:30:12.440 tied to that.

00:30:13.640 There's,

00:30:13.860 there's no,

00:30:14.480 there's no passion.

00:30:16.020 There's no doing it

00:30:17.020 to the nth degree.

00:30:17.880 It's like, 1.00

00:30:18.280 shit, 1.00

00:30:18.500 I just got to do this thing. 1.00

00:30:19.640 I got to check it

00:30:20.220 off the list.

00:30:20.780 Like,

00:30:21.060 oh yeah,

00:30:21.340 we're supposed to go

00:30:21.900 on a date,

00:30:22.360 but I haven't put

00:30:23.300 any thought at, 0.99

00:30:23.920 damn it. 0.99

00:30:24.680 Oh, 1.00

00:30:24.920 let's just go to

00:30:25.660 wherever we go

00:30:27.180 and like,

00:30:27.560 we'll just do the same

00:30:28.240 thing we did last week.

00:30:30.120 That's where I think

00:30:31.000 it's going to feel

00:30:31.740 like a checklist to her.

00:30:33.020 And it would feel

00:30:33.500 like that to you too.

00:30:35.160 So how do you change that?

00:30:37.280 Instead,

00:30:37.960 you do,

00:30:38.540 you,

00:30:38.840 you're thoughtful

00:30:39.820 instead of just

00:30:41.700 doing it last minute.

00:30:43.100 You think a week ahead,

00:30:44.140 you know what,

00:30:44.660 man,

00:30:44.840 there's that new

00:30:45.340 restaurant in town

00:30:46.180 and my wife mentioned

00:30:47.900 something about it.

00:30:48.680 I think she'd really

00:30:49.320 like to do that.

00:30:49.980 And so a week earlier

00:30:50.940 you get a reservation

00:30:51.960 and you secure

00:30:54.040 the babysitter

00:30:54.760 and you know

00:30:55.220 what else you do?

00:30:55.840 You go to

00:30:56.820 the local car wash

00:30:58.800 and you clean

00:30:59.460 the truck

00:30:59.980 and you pull

00:31:00.880 all the trash

00:31:01.440 out of it

00:31:01.860 and you pick

00:31:02.380 the gum

00:31:02.740 off the seats

00:31:03.280 from the kids

00:31:03.960 and you reach

00:31:05.100 down in there

00:31:05.640 and pull all

00:31:06.120 the old

00:31:06.560 McDonald's french fries

00:31:07.880 out from between

00:31:08.840 the seat

00:31:09.260 and you clean

00:31:10.600 the vehicle

00:31:11.420 so that when

00:31:12.740 your wife

00:31:13.340 gets in there

00:31:14.080 she knows

00:31:15.600 that you

00:31:16.000 and you don't

00:31:16.440 have to say

00:31:17.040 hey I cleaned

00:31:17.500 it for us

00:31:17.940 she'll see it

00:31:18.660 she'll acknowledge

00:31:19.680 it

00:31:19.940 you look good

00:31:21.120 you groom

00:31:22.120 yourself

00:31:22.560 you show up

00:31:23.160 ready to have

00:31:23.820 a deep

00:31:24.320 and meaningful

00:31:24.760 conversation

00:31:25.480 you set the tone

00:31:26.700 you be the leader

00:31:27.640 and when you

00:31:28.740 start focusing

00:31:29.580 on the little

00:31:30.640 things

00:31:31.200 and take those

00:31:32.920 assignments to

00:31:33.620 the nth degree

00:31:34.320 she's not going

00:31:35.040 to feel like

00:31:35.580 she's just

00:31:36.060 the checklist

00:31:36.740 she's going

00:31:37.960 to feel valued

00:31:38.740 she's going

00:31:39.140 to feel

00:31:39.440 important

00:31:39.980 she's going

00:31:40.340 to feel

00:31:40.640 like you

00:31:41.120 put in time

00:31:42.440 and attention

00:31:43.180 and energy

00:31:44.060 and she isn't

00:31:45.060 going to feel 0.99

00:31:45.460 like oh shit 0.99

00:31:46.360 I got to do 0.99

00:31:46.800 this thing

00:31:47.200 real quick

00:31:47.580 she's going

00:31:47.920 to feel like

00:31:48.440 she's important

00:31:49.620 because she is

00:31:50.940 so I think

00:31:52.440 it has more

00:31:53.000 to do with

00:31:53.440 how you do

00:31:54.100 it than what

00:31:54.740 you do

00:31:55.120 there's nothing

00:31:55.660 wrong with

00:31:56.340 having date night

00:31:57.760 on your calendar

00:31:58.560 and having it

00:31:59.520 as a checklisted

00:32:00.540 type item

00:32:01.040 nothing

00:32:01.640 you should

00:32:02.440 you should have

00:32:03.500 that locked

00:32:03.880 into your calendar

00:32:04.520 it's the way

00:32:05.740 you do it

00:32:06.260 that matters

00:32:06.820 that's what's

00:32:07.560 going to be

00:32:07.800 the difference 1.00

00:32:08.320 oh shit 0.99

00:32:09.300 we have date night 1.00

00:32:10.260 in an hour

00:32:11.040 it's on my list

00:32:12.100 where do you want

00:32:12.960 to go

00:32:13.180 do you just

00:32:13.580 want to do

00:32:13.940 something real

00:32:14.320 quick

00:32:14.720 right

00:32:15.940 yeah

00:32:16.700 right

00:32:17.060 yeah

00:32:17.520 yeah totally

00:32:18.440 so set the tone

00:32:20.980 you know

00:32:21.440 and that's the

00:32:22.140 beautiful thing

00:32:22.760 about being a leader

00:32:23.620 is you get

00:32:25.320 what you want

00:32:25.920 you get to do

00:32:27.280 it your way

00:32:27.760 I love that

00:32:28.900 about leadership

00:32:29.500 there's too many

00:32:30.600 guys who

00:32:31.400 they abdicate

00:32:33.400 leadership

00:32:33.840 they don't want

00:32:34.780 it

00:32:35.020 they say things

00:32:35.940 like this is

00:32:36.500 above my pay

00:32:37.220 grade

00:32:37.440 they don't pay

00:32:37.960 me enough

00:32:38.320 to do this

00:32:38.780 kind of thing

00:32:39.460 I'd rather be

00:32:41.020 the leader

00:32:41.380 because as the

00:32:42.300 leader I get

00:32:43.040 to do what

00:32:43.600 I want to do

00:32:44.520 and I enjoy

00:32:47.420 making things

00:32:49.420 an experience

00:32:50.540 whether it's

00:32:51.200 this podcast

00:32:51.760 or a date

00:32:52.760 with my girlfriend

00:32:53.460 or an evening

00:32:54.940 with my kids

00:32:55.920 or a new

00:32:57.120 course that we

00:32:57.740 might put out

00:32:58.320 and make available

00:32:58.960 I enjoy

00:33:00.880 making it

00:33:01.840 an experience

00:33:02.500 and that's

00:33:03.400 what takes

00:33:03.880 the

00:33:04.360 sense of

00:33:06.560 obligation

00:33:07.600 out of it

00:33:08.260 and makes it

00:33:09.040 more of a

00:33:09.380 priority

00:33:09.800 yeah

00:33:10.900 absolutely

00:33:11.580 Sean Corbin

00:33:13.420 looking for

00:33:14.740 resources for

00:33:15.660 starting your

00:33:16.280 own business

00:33:16.920 recommended

00:33:18.220 resources

00:33:18.960 well

00:33:20.540 man

00:33:21.560 that's pretty

00:33:22.080 broad

00:33:22.560 I

00:33:23.180 I would

00:33:25.160 say

00:33:25.660 I mean

00:33:27.900 I don't even

00:33:28.240 know what kind

00:33:28.720 of business

00:33:29.120 you're starting

00:33:29.680 is it

00:33:30.020 is it a

00:33:30.580 B2B

00:33:31.020 is it

00:33:31.580 is it

00:33:32.060 a digital

00:33:32.500 business

00:33:33.140 is it

00:33:33.620 consumers

00:33:34.280 sales

00:33:34.940 is it

00:33:35.580 like

00:33:35.760 I mean

00:33:36.160 that's the

00:33:36.500 first thing

00:33:36.900 you need

00:33:37.140 to narrow

00:33:37.420 down

00:33:37.800 is

00:33:38.040 what kind

00:33:38.900 of business

00:33:39.300 are you

00:33:39.600 trying to

00:33:40.000 create

00:33:40.320 and then

00:33:40.860 I think

00:33:42.240 speaking of

00:33:43.000 checklist

00:33:43.460 write the

00:33:44.140 checklist

00:33:44.440 down on

00:33:44.880 what you

00:33:45.140 need to

00:33:45.320 do

00:33:45.580 so

00:33:46.080 marketing

00:33:46.580 okay

00:33:47.200 I need

00:33:47.400 to know

00:33:47.580 how to

00:33:47.780 market

00:33:48.060 okay

00:33:49.420 who's a

00:33:49.960 good

00:33:50.080 marketer

00:33:50.980 who has

00:33:51.440 a course

00:33:51.860 who has

00:33:52.180 a program

00:33:52.680 on marketing

00:33:53.360 type in

00:33:53.820 marketing

00:33:54.220 maybe there's

00:33:55.780 brands that

00:33:56.360 you already

00:33:56.920 follow in

00:33:57.660 the same

00:33:58.080 vein of

00:33:59.020 what you're

00:33:59.420 doing

00:33:59.720 follow them

00:34:01.100 look at

00:34:01.640 what they

00:34:01.940 do

00:34:02.700 mimic

00:34:03.360 don't

00:34:04.260 don't

00:34:04.540 copy

00:34:04.980 but mimic

00:34:06.140 there's

00:34:06.900 things that

00:34:07.520 there's

00:34:07.820 strategy

00:34:08.320 that's

00:34:08.620 working

00:34:08.900 try to

00:34:09.260 uncover

00:34:09.640 and unpack

00:34:10.100 what it

00:34:10.400 is when

00:34:10.680 it comes

00:34:10.960 to

00:34:11.100 marketing

00:34:11.460 social

00:34:12.300 media

00:34:12.660 maybe

00:34:13.100 somebody

00:34:13.440 does

00:34:13.600 social

00:34:14.000 media

00:34:14.220 really

00:34:14.540 well

00:34:14.820 and you

00:34:15.040 resonate

00:34:15.320 with

00:34:15.580 it

00:34:15.760 okay

00:34:16.160 well

00:34:16.760 there's

00:34:17.300 something

00:34:17.560 about it

00:34:17.960 that you

00:34:18.200 resonate

00:34:18.480 with

00:34:18.780 so you

00:34:19.280 can

00:34:19.540 mimic

00:34:20.180 some of

00:34:20.540 the same

00:34:20.960 behaviors

00:34:21.540 and engagement

00:34:22.080 that they're

00:34:22.760 using on

00:34:23.240 social media

00:34:23.800 you're going

00:34:25.460 to need to

00:34:25.800 know the

00:34:26.080 numbers

00:34:26.500 taxes

00:34:27.220 and how

00:34:28.860 to set

00:34:29.180 up the

00:34:29.420 LLC

00:34:29.740 properly

00:34:30.440 go get

00:34:32.360 an attorney

00:34:32.820 go get

00:34:33.480 an accountant

00:34:33.900 find a

00:34:34.500 CPA

00:34:34.840 ask your

00:34:35.720 other

00:34:35.880 entrepreneur

00:34:36.500 buddies

00:34:36.900 who are

00:34:37.440 you using

00:34:37.960 for

00:34:38.260 taxes

00:34:38.920 who is

00:34:39.680 your

00:34:39.840 attorney

00:34:40.220 it's

00:34:41.540 really

00:34:41.740 hard

00:34:42.020 to

00:34:42.320 answer

00:34:42.640 it's

00:34:43.020 so

00:34:43.180 broad

00:34:43.560 but

00:34:43.780 you

00:34:43.960 just

00:34:44.120 create

00:34:44.400 a

00:34:44.540 checklist

00:34:44.880 of

00:34:45.080 the

00:34:45.200 things

00:34:45.460 that

00:34:45.620 you

00:34:45.760 need

00:34:46.000 to

00:34:46.080 get

00:34:46.200 done

00:34:46.460 and

00:34:47.520 you

00:34:47.640 go

00:34:47.840 to

00:34:48.000 the

00:34:48.120 places

00:34:48.460 that

00:34:48.780 are

00:34:49.040 already

00:34:49.320 doing

00:34:49.620 the

00:34:49.760 thing

00:34:49.920 that

00:34:50.080 you

00:34:50.200 want

00:34:50.360 to

00:34:50.420 be

00:34:50.520 doing

00:34:50.780 and

00:34:52.000 you

00:34:52.120 talk

00:34:52.360 with

00:34:52.520 them

00:34:52.660 you

00:34:52.820 add

00:34:52.940 value

00:34:53.280 to

00:34:53.420 them

00:34:53.620 you

00:34:53.860 serve

00:34:54.240 them

00:34:54.520 you

00:34:54.660 ask

00:34:54.860 them

00:34:55.020 questions

00:34:55.440 and

00:34:55.780 then

00:34:55.940 you

00:34:56.100 start

00:34:56.400 to

00:34:57.080 mimic

00:34:57.300 that

00:34:57.600 and

00:34:57.860 you

00:34:57.980 find

00:34:58.520 your

00:34:58.820 way

00:34:59.240 of

00:34:59.380 doing

00:34:59.580 it

00:34:59.800 I

00:35:00.140 wish

00:35:00.300 I

00:35:00.400 could

00:35:00.500 give

00:35:00.620 a

00:35:00.720 better

00:35:00.880 answer

00:35:01.240 but

00:35:01.520 it's

00:35:01.720 so

00:35:01.880 broad

00:35:02.240 we

00:35:04.040 have

00:35:04.460 said

00:35:05.060 this

00:35:05.240 so

00:35:05.580 many

00:35:05.840 times

00:35:06.360 and

00:35:06.600 so

00:35:06.740 my

00:35:06.920 apologies

00:35:07.320 for

00:35:07.600 everyone

00:35:07.880 that's

00:35:08.120 already

00:35:08.380 like

00:35:08.640 oh

00:35:08.840 my

00:35:09.000 gosh

00:35:09.320 they're

00:35:09.480 talking

00:35:09.720 about

00:35:10.040 a

00:35:10.240 minimal

00:35:10.480 viable

00:35:10.880 product

00:35:11.380 again

00:35:11.680 but

00:35:11.840 it

00:35:11.960 just

00:35:12.580 have

00:35:12.880 to

00:35:13.020 touch

00:35:13.240 base

00:35:13.540 on

00:35:13.660 that

00:35:13.820 just

00:35:14.020 really

00:35:14.320 quick

00:35:14.740 for

00:35:15.020 you

00:35:15.220 Sean

00:35:15.520 right

00:35:15.780 like

00:35:16.100 don't

00:35:16.820 fall

00:35:17.080 under

00:35:17.240 the

00:35:17.420 trap

00:35:17.920 the

00:35:18.720 best

00:35:18.940 here's

00:35:19.320 the

00:35:19.720 trap

00:35:20.060 and

00:35:20.200 here's

00:35:20.480 the

00:35:20.580 best

00:35:29.380 a

00:35:29.600 week

00:35:29.800 and

00:35:30.000 we

00:35:30.400 would

00:35:30.580 do

00:35:30.760 one

00:35:30.960 on

00:35:31.080 one

00:35:31.220 coaching

00:35:31.620 and

00:35:32.160 he's

00:35:32.380 an

00:35:32.580 amazing

00:35:33.140 coach

00:35:33.640 amazing

00:35:34.600 coach

00:35:35.120 dude

00:35:35.480 I

00:35:35.740 love

00:35:36.580 training

00:35:37.200 stand up

00:35:37.680 with him

00:35:38.040 and

00:35:39.180 I'm

00:35:39.380 like

00:35:39.520 Corey

00:35:39.760 dude

00:35:40.020 what

00:35:40.340 what

00:35:40.560 are

00:35:40.640 you

00:35:40.740 doing

00:35:40.980 right

00:35:41.200 like

00:35:41.480 why

00:35:42.700 aren't

00:35:42.840 you

00:35:42.960 running

00:35:43.160 a

00:35:43.320 school

00:35:43.580 right

00:35:44.520 and

00:35:44.880 his

00:35:45.380 mind

00:35:46.260 was

00:35:46.460 so

00:35:46.700 set

00:35:47.060 on

00:35:47.480 well

00:35:48.320 I

00:35:48.580 got

00:35:48.940 to

00:35:49.180 save

00:35:49.360 up

00:35:49.520 a

00:35:49.640 bunch

00:35:49.800 of

00:35:49.900 money

00:35:50.160 I

00:35:50.360 need

00:35:50.620 to

00:35:50.720 get

00:35:50.860 a

00:35:51.000 business

00:35:51.380 loan

00:35:51.680 I

00:35:51.860 got

00:35:52.060 to

00:35:52.160 build

00:35:52.340 a

00:35:52.520 building

00:35:52.840 I

00:35:53.080 got

00:35:53.240 to

00:35:53.320 buy

00:35:53.460 all

00:35:53.600 this

00:35:53.800 equipment

00:35:54.200 and

00:35:55.220 it

00:35:55.520 was

00:35:55.700 holding

00:35:56.120 him

00:35:56.380 back

00:35:56.760 and

00:35:57.400 probably

00:35:57.760 has

00:35:57.940 continued

00:35:58.420 to

00:35:59.060 hold

00:35:59.280 him

00:35:59.420 back

00:35:59.720 and

00:36:00.960 I

00:36:01.320 told

00:36:01.820 him

00:36:01.980 time

00:36:02.460 and

00:36:02.580 time

00:36:02.720 again

00:36:02.960 Corey

00:36:03.360 dude

00:36:03.640 minimal

00:36:04.220 viable

00:36:04.740 product

00:36:05.340 don't

00:36:06.080 worry

00:36:06.360 about

00:36:06.560 the

00:36:06.720 building

00:36:07.040 and

00:36:07.900 my

00:36:08.060 coaching

00:36:08.460 and

00:36:08.660 suggestion

00:36:09.040 to him

00:36:09.340 was

00:36:09.660 go to

00:36:10.700 a

00:36:10.860 local

00:36:11.140 rec

00:36:11.460 center

00:36:11.740 of

00:36:12.160 where

00:36:12.400 you

00:36:12.600 would

00:36:12.740 like

00:36:13.080 the

00:36:13.280 school

00:36:13.480 to

00:36:13.620 be

00:36:13.840 figure

00:36:15.240 out

00:36:15.560 how

00:36:15.720 you

00:36:15.880 can

00:36:16.040 teach

00:36:16.360 a

00:36:16.500 Muay 0.81

00:36:16.700 Thai

00:36:16.900 class

00:36:17.500 once

00:36:18.140 a

00:36:18.300 week

00:36:18.480 and

00:36:18.860 just

00:36:19.140 figure

00:36:19.600 out

00:36:19.840 if

00:36:20.020 you

00:36:20.160 can

00:36:20.340 get

00:36:20.580 five

00:36:20.900 people

00:36:21.180 to

00:36:21.320 take

00:36:21.500 your

00:36:21.620 class

00:36:22.640 right

00:36:23.340 and

00:36:24.180 get

00:36:24.380 the

00:36:24.600 reps

00:36:25.020 and

00:36:25.280 create

00:36:25.580 a

00:36:25.780 movement

00:36:26.200 and

00:36:26.540 get

00:36:26.720 people

00:36:27.120 interested

00:36:27.660 that

00:36:28.240 way

00:36:28.400 when

00:36:28.580 you

00:36:28.700 go

00:36:29.080 rent

00:36:29.740 a

00:36:29.900 building

00:36:30.240 you

00:36:30.780 already

00:36:31.040 have

00:36:31.320 the

00:36:31.480 students

00:36:31.960 you

00:36:32.180 already

00:36:32.360 have

00:36:32.760 the

00:36:33.320 followers

00:36:33.760 you

00:36:33.920 already

00:36:34.080 have

00:36:34.300 the

00:36:34.440 50

00:36:34.700 people

00:36:35.040 willing

00:36:35.380 to

00:36:35.580 sign

00:36:35.800 up

00:36:36.120 but

00:36:36.880 you're

00:36:37.880 thinking

00:36:38.260 you have

00:36:38.640 to

00:36:38.760 build

00:36:38.920 a

00:36:39.040 building

00:36:39.280 to

00:36:39.420 get

00:36:39.540 the

00:36:39.680 people

00:36:39.980 people

00:36:40.380 do

00:36:40.560 this

00:36:40.740 with

00:36:40.920 websites

00:36:41.420 too

00:36:41.720 all

00:36:41.980 the

00:36:42.140 time

00:36:42.440 all

00:36:43.040 right

00:36:43.260 I

00:36:43.400 got

00:36:43.540 this

00:36:43.740 great

00:36:44.080 domain

00:36:44.580 I'm

00:36:45.060 going

00:36:45.120 to

00:36:45.180 make

00:36:45.320 this

00:36:45.520 website

00:36:45.980 this

00:36:46.220 e-commerce

00:36:46.660 site

00:36:46.980 and

00:36:47.480 like

00:36:47.740 people

00:36:48.080 are

00:36:48.220 going

00:36:48.320 to

00:36:48.460 magically

00:36:48.940 show

00:36:49.300 up

00:36:49.500 and

00:36:49.640 start

00:36:49.840 buying

00:36:50.220 my 1.00

00:36:50.460 shit 1.00

00:36:50.680 it's 0.99

00:36:51.760 not

00:36:51.960 going

00:36:52.100 to

00:36:52.220 happen

00:36:52.640 they're

00:36:53.140 not

00:36:53.360 going

00:36:53.580 to

00:36:53.700 find

00:36:53.980 your

00:36:54.140 website

00:36:54.620 right

00:36:54.960 like

00:36:55.160 so

00:36:55.420 stop

00:36:56.000 like

00:36:56.560 minimal

00:36:57.340 viable

00:36:57.660 product

00:36:58.120 sell

00:36:58.820 that

00:36:59.040 through

00:36:59.260 Instagram

00:36:59.700 sell

00:37:00.060 it

00:37:00.180 on

00:37:00.320 TikTok

00:37:00.700 first

00:37:01.360 create

00:37:02.040 a

00:37:02.200 following

00:37:02.580 right

00:37:02.900 test

00:37:04.080 it

00:37:04.280 out

00:37:04.800 and

00:37:05.680 there's

00:37:11.420 you

00:37:11.560 start

00:37:11.900 hiking

00:37:12.460 until

00:37:13.160 you

00:37:13.400 start

00:37:13.620 taking

00:37:13.960 action

00:37:14.380 don't

00:37:15.260 think

00:37:15.500 that

00:37:15.660 you

00:37:15.760 have

00:37:15.900 to

00:37:16.020 figure

00:37:16.200 this

00:37:16.420 out

00:37:16.640 and

00:37:16.800 it's

00:37:16.960 like

00:37:17.080 this

00:37:17.260 picture

00:37:17.540 perfect

00:37:17.900 way

00:37:18.200 to

00:37:18.400 approach

00:37:18.720 your

00:37:18.860 business

00:37:19.280 yeah

00:37:21.420 and

00:37:21.500 I

00:37:21.620 mean

00:37:21.980 like

00:37:22.540 even

00:37:22.840 when

00:37:23.020 you

00:37:23.100 were

00:37:23.200 talking

00:37:23.480 about

00:37:23.820 with

00:37:24.080 with

00:37:24.380 Corey

00:37:24.680 you

00:37:24.880 know

00:37:25.060 he

00:37:25.640 could

00:37:25.800 probably

00:37:26.060 get

00:37:26.260 five

00:37:26.580 people

00:37:26.900 to

00:37:27.100 sign

00:37:27.300 up

00:37:27.560 and

00:37:28.000 of

00:37:28.400 those

00:37:28.620 five

00:37:28.920 people

00:37:29.300 there's

00:37:29.720 probably

00:37:30.100 somebody

00:37:30.540 who

00:37:30.800 has

00:37:31.040 space

00:37:31.520 who

00:37:32.000 he

00:37:32.520 could

00:37:32.700 say

00:37:33.080 hey

00:37:33.760 in

00:37:34.200 exchange

00:37:34.560 for

00:37:34.740 lessons

00:37:41.420 so

00:37:41.780 be

00:37:42.620 creative

00:37:43.060 be

00:37:43.340 resilient

00:37:43.760 think

00:37:44.520 of

00:37:44.700 think

00:37:45.060 of

00:37:45.180 creative

00:37:45.460 ways

00:37:45.780 to

00:37:45.920 do

00:37:46.060 it

00:37:46.160 do

00:37:46.320 something

00:37:46.580 out

00:37:46.740 of

00:37:46.780 your

00:37:46.880 garage

00:37:47.400 I

00:37:47.540 mean

00:37:47.680 so

00:37:48.140 many

00:37:48.280 different

00:37:48.520 ways

00:37:48.720 to

00:37:48.820 do

00:37:48.920 that

00:37:49.040 that

00:37:49.220 is

00:37:49.380 one

00:37:49.560 of

00:37:49.660 the

00:37:49.760 things

00:37:50.040 that

00:37:50.360 at

00:37:51.200 the

00:37:51.340 risk

00:37:51.580 of

00:37:51.760 sounding

00:37:52.180 arrogant

00:37:52.800 or

00:37:53.000 tooting

00:37:53.200 my

00:37:53.360 own

00:37:53.520 horn

00:37:53.780 I'm

00:37:54.140 good

00:37:54.360 at

00:37:54.500 that

00:37:54.780 it's

00:37:55.280 like

00:37:55.460 just

00:37:55.760 launch

00:37:56.400 something

00:37:56.860 and

00:37:57.140 then

00:37:57.320 we'll

00:37:57.560 figure

00:37:57.900 it

00:37:58.100 out

00:37:58.300 we're

00:37:58.480 not

00:37:58.640 performing

00:37:59.120 brain

00:37:59.540 surgery

00:37:59.980 and

00:38:00.520 I'm

00:38:00.640 not

00:38:00.820 trying

00:38:01.000 to

00:38:11.420 absolutely

00:38:11.960 Austin

00:38:12.980 Chamberlain

00:38:14.160 how do

00:38:15.040 you know

00:38:15.400 if it's

00:38:15.760 time to

00:38:16.180 leave your

00:38:16.500 job

00:38:16.900 for

00:38:17.100 something

00:38:17.460 better

00:38:17.920 pros

00:38:18.840 of

00:38:19.000 the

00:38:19.120 current

00:38:19.340 job

00:38:19.740 are

00:38:19.920 that

00:38:20.100 I

00:38:20.220 like

00:38:20.480 the

00:38:20.640 people

00:38:20.980 I

00:38:21.380 work

00:38:21.660 with

00:38:21.960 and

00:38:22.120 I

00:38:22.240 enjoy

00:38:22.660 being

00:38:23.000 in

00:38:23.220 the

00:38:23.360 industry

00:38:23.780 the

00:38:24.080 cons

00:38:24.580 are

00:38:24.920 that

00:38:25.120 my

00:38:25.300 bosses

00:38:25.760 have

00:38:26.740 unrealistic

00:38:27.360 expectations

00:38:28.180 and I

00:38:28.760 can't

00:38:29.120 get a

00:38:29.400 professional

00:38:29.820 engineering

00:38:30.340 license

00:38:30.800 here

00:38:31.100 and I

00:38:31.880 could

00:38:32.040 make

00:38:32.280 better

00:38:32.580 money

00:38:32.920 doing

00:38:33.200 something

00:38:33.600 different

00:38:34.200 with

00:38:34.600 an

00:38:34.740 engineering

00:38:35.320 degree

00:38:35.800 and

00:38:36.360 three

00:38:36.580 years

00:38:36.880 of

00:38:37.060 professional

00:38:37.480 experience

00:38:38.240 I

00:38:41.520 mean

00:38:41.660 I

00:38:41.840 hear

00:38:42.060 that

00:38:42.440 and

00:38:43.300 I

00:38:43.480 think

00:38:43.840 you

00:38:44.260 kind

00:38:44.540 of

00:38:44.640 answered

00:38:44.980 your

00:38:45.220 own

00:38:45.380 question

00:38:45.840 like

00:38:47.300 what

00:38:47.460 what

00:38:47.640 were

00:38:47.740 the

00:38:47.880 pros

00:38:48.180 what

00:38:48.360 did

00:38:48.440 you

00:38:48.520 say

00:38:48.660 the

00:38:48.780 pros

00:38:49.040 were

00:38:49.200 again

00:38:49.460 loves

00:38:50.180 the

00:38:50.340 people

00:38:50.600 in

00:38:50.760 the

00:38:50.880 industry

00:38:51.240 and

00:38:51.720 it's

00:38:52.060 a

00:38:52.200 false

00:38:52.440 dichotomy

00:38:53.000 right

00:38:53.340 here's

00:38:53.960 the

00:38:54.080 thing

00:38:54.340 you're

00:38:54.660 going

00:38:54.760 to

00:38:54.860 find

00:38:55.160 people

00:38:55.560 you

00:38:55.740 love

00:38:56.060 in

00:38:56.480 engineering

00:38:57.000 yeah

00:38:58.000 maybe

00:38:58.880 engineers

00:38:59.440 are

00:38:59.620 weird

00:38:59.840 but

00:39:00.300 you know

00:39:00.760 good

00:39:02.000 luck

00:39:02.200 you're

00:39:02.620 gonna

00:39:02.760 you're

00:39:04.100 gonna

00:39:04.220 find

00:39:04.620 people

00:39:05.080 you're

00:39:05.900 gonna find

00:39:06.260 good

00:39:06.480 people

00:39:06.840 wherever

00:39:07.160 you

00:39:07.380 are

00:39:07.600 and

00:39:07.820 you're

00:39:07.940 gonna

00:39:08.040 find

00:39:08.320 bad

00:39:08.580 people

00:39:08.940 wherever

00:39:09.380 you

00:39:09.580 are

00:39:09.800 it's

00:39:10.160 not

00:39:10.360 the

00:39:10.520 industry

00:39:10.960 it's

00:39:12.140 not

00:39:12.340 like

00:39:12.540 oh

00:39:12.740 if

00:39:12.860 I

00:39:12.960 don't

00:39:13.100 do

00:39:13.240 that

00:39:13.420 then

00:39:13.580 I'll

00:39:13.720 never

00:39:14.000 find

00:39:14.340 good

00:39:14.660 people

00:39:14.940 to

00:39:15.100 spend

00:39:15.300 time

00:39:15.540 with

00:39:15.820 so

00:39:16.740 this

00:39:17.400 is

00:39:17.560 a

00:39:17.700 no

00:39:17.880 brainer

00:39:18.200 to

00:39:18.360 me

00:39:18.560 you

00:39:19.280 want

00:39:19.500 to

00:39:19.620 get

00:39:20.140 your

00:39:20.280 engineering

00:39:20.700 degree

00:39:21.340 or

00:39:21.520 license

00:39:21.980 you

00:39:22.720 want

00:39:22.920 to

00:39:23.000 be

00:39:23.120 in

00:39:23.220 that

00:39:23.380 field

00:39:23.660 of

00:39:23.820 work

00:39:24.140 you

00:39:24.840 know

00:39:24.980 you're

00:39:25.120 gonna

00:39:25.240 make

00:39:25.440 more

00:39:25.660 money

00:39:25.940 you

00:39:26.120 know

00:39:26.260 you're

00:39:26.420 gonna

00:39:26.520 be

00:39:26.660 more

00:39:26.860 fulfilled

00:39:27.140 and

00:39:27.340 satisfied

00:39:27.880 and

00:39:28.300 you

00:39:28.440 can't

00:39:28.620 progress

00:39:29.060 where

00:39:30.420 you

00:39:30.600 are

00:39:30.880 then

00:39:31.480 what

00:39:31.600 are

00:39:31.700 you

00:39:31.780 doing

00:39:32.000 yeah

00:39:32.760 only

00:39:33.300 because

00:39:33.680 you

00:39:33.840 love

00:39:34.060 the

00:39:34.220 people

00:39:34.600 so

00:39:36.760 here

00:39:37.000 here's

00:39:37.320 what

00:39:37.420 I

00:39:37.520 would

00:39:37.660 suggest

00:39:38.100 from

00:39:38.320 a

00:39:38.460 practical

00:39:38.900 standpoint

00:39:39.500 you're

00:39:40.880 gonna

00:39:40.980 have

00:39:41.180 to

00:39:41.320 bust 0.89

00:39:41.520 your 1.00

00:39:41.660 ass 1.00

00:39:41.860 for 0.95

00:39:42.000 about

00:39:42.180 two

00:39:42.380 years

00:39:42.740 maybe

00:39:43.500 longer

00:39:43.820 I

00:39:44.460 don't

00:39:44.640 know

00:39:45.060 what

00:39:45.220 the

00:39:45.320 degree

00:39:45.660 I

00:39:46.160 don't

00:39:46.300 know

00:39:46.440 where

00:39:46.660 you

00:39:46.820 are

00:39:46.980 in

00:39:47.060 that

00:39:47.200 process

00:39:47.580 I

00:39:55.120 for

00:39:55.380 a

00:39:55.480 couple

00:39:55.660 years

00:39:55.960 and

00:39:56.780 you're

00:39:56.980 gonna

00:39:57.080 stay

00:39:57.380 working

00:39:57.760 where

00:39:57.980 you

00:39:58.140 are

00:39:58.360 for

00:39:58.820 the

00:39:58.960 time

00:39:59.200 being

00:39:59.440 and

00:40:00.200 you're

00:40:00.340 gonna

00:40:00.460 be

00:40:00.600 the

00:40:00.740 best

00:40:01.180 employee

00:40:01.680 that

00:40:01.960 you

00:40:02.100 can

00:40:02.260 be

00:40:02.520 in

00:40:02.800 that

00:40:02.980 organization

00:40:03.580 while

00:40:04.560 you're

00:40:04.820 working

00:40:05.140 on

00:40:05.480 engineering

00:40:06.200 credentialing

00:40:06.860 this

00:40:07.960 is

00:40:08.180 what

00:40:08.520 a

00:40:08.740 lot

00:40:08.900 of

00:40:08.980 these

00:40:09.220 social

00:40:11.060 media

00:40:11.360 gurus

00:40:11.900 won't

00:40:12.180 tell

00:40:12.400 you

00:40:12.580 is

00:40:12.700 they'll

00:40:12.860 say

00:40:13.040 burn

00:40:13.440 the

00:40:13.620 boats

00:40:13.920 burn

00:40:14.180 the

00:40:14.300 bridges

00:40:14.580 go

00:40:14.940 all

00:40:15.180 in

00:40:15.440 chase

00:40:15.800 your

00:40:15.960 dreams

00:40:16.380 that's

00:40:17.380 fine

00:40:17.820 if

00:40:18.740 you're

00:40:19.100 20

00:40:19.420 years

00:40:19.640 old

00:40:25.120 and

00:40:25.760 you

00:40:25.900 can

00:40:26.020 just

00:40:26.220 live

00:40:26.460 life

00:40:26.700 as

00:40:26.840 a

00:40:26.940 vagabond 0.85

00:40:27.440 that's

00:40:27.900 great

00:40:28.400 for

00:40:28.640 those

00:40:28.860 individuals

00:40:29.340 but

00:40:30.080 for

00:40:30.240 the

00:40:30.400 rest

00:40:30.680 of

00:40:30.900 us

00:40:31.220 we

00:40:32.140 have

00:40:32.340 financial

00:40:32.780 obligations

00:40:33.400 we

00:40:33.720 have

00:40:33.900 children

00:40:34.360 you

00:40:34.820 guys

00:40:35.000 some

00:40:35.160 of

00:40:35.240 you

00:40:35.300 are

00:40:35.420 married

00:40:35.860 like

00:40:36.500 there's

00:40:36.780 there's

00:40:37.040 things

00:40:37.480 happening

00:40:37.940 that

00:40:38.280 restrict

00:40:39.160 you

00:40:39.540 from

00:40:39.920 going

00:40:40.920 all

00:40:41.220 in

00:40:41.400 that

00:40:41.620 way

00:40:41.920 because

00:40:42.540 then

00:40:42.880 you're

00:40:43.260 sacrificing

00:40:43.960 your

00:40:44.240 other

00:40:44.480 responsibilities

00:40:45.060 but

00:40:46.280 you

00:40:46.440 can

00:40:46.600 bust

00:40:46.840 your 1.00

00:40:46.980 ass 1.00

00:40:47.160 for 0.99

00:40:47.320 a

00:40:47.440 couple

00:40:47.620 years

00:40:47.840 and

00:40:47.960 say

00:40:48.080 you

00:40:48.180 know

00:40:48.240 what

00:40:48.360 I'm

00:40:48.500 really

00:40:48.660 gonna

00:40:48.800 put

00:40:48.980 my

00:40:49.120 head

00:40:49.300 down

00:40:49.580 I'm

00:40:49.760 gonna

00:40:49.820 get

00:40:50.000 this

00:40:50.180 engineering

00:40:50.540 degree

00:40:50.880 while

00:40:51.220 I'm

00:40:51.380 doing

00:40:51.580 this

00:40:51.780 work

00:40:52.160 and

00:40:53.060 I'm

00:40:53.580 also

00:40:53.980 this

00:40:54.260 is

00:40:54.400 important

00:40:54.860 most

00:40:55.900 people

00:40:56.140 overlook

00:40:56.480 this

00:40:56.800 I'm

00:40:57.140 gonna

00:40:57.260 be

00:40:57.440 networking

00:40:58.040 my

00:40:58.380 tail

00:40:58.800 off

00:40:59.200 in

00:41:00.460 the

00:41:00.620 field

00:41:01.040 of

00:41:01.220 work

00:41:01.440 that

00:41:01.560 I

00:41:01.680 want

00:41:01.840 to

00:41:01.920 be

00:41:02.100 in

00:41:02.320 so

00:41:02.620 that

00:41:02.840 when

00:41:03.040 that

00:41:03.260 time

00:41:03.560 comes

00:41:03.980 there's

00:41:04.200 no

00:41:04.360 question

00:41:04.860 about

00:41:05.260 do

00:41:05.800 I

00:41:05.940 know

00:41:06.120 people

00:41:06.500 do

00:41:06.740 I

00:41:06.860 have

00:41:07.020 a

00:41:07.160 job

00:41:07.520 what

00:41:07.800 opportunities

00:41:08.320 are

00:41:08.600 available

00:41:09.000 in

00:41:09.900 fact

00:41:10.200 I

00:41:10.580 would

00:41:10.740 want

00:41:10.940 to

00:41:11.040 be

00:41:11.120 in

00:41:11.200 the

00:41:11.300 position

00:41:11.660 where

00:41:12.020 guys

00:41:12.360 are

00:41:12.500 beating

00:41:12.700 down

00:41:12.940 my

00:41:13.160 door

00:41:13.440 to

00:41:13.680 recruit

00:41:14.200 me

00:41:14.640 while

00:41:15.600 I'm

00:41:15.820 still

00:41:16.060 working

00:41:16.380 in

00:41:16.540 this

00:41:16.680 other

00:41:16.840 job

00:41:17.180 and

00:41:17.400 I

00:41:17.500 say

00:41:17.760 that

00:41:17.980 because

00:41:18.200 I've

00:41:18.440 done

00:41:18.640 that

00:41:18.880 three

00:41:19.120 or

00:41:19.280 four

00:41:19.460 times

00:41:19.800 throughout

00:41:19.980 my

00:41:20.160 life

00:41:20.460 and

00:41:21.000 every

00:41:21.200 time

00:41:21.440 I've

00:41:21.620 done

00:41:21.760 it

00:41:21.940 it's

00:41:22.460 gone

00:41:22.780 very

00:41:23.520 very

00:41:23.740 well

00:41:24.040 so

00:41:25.380 that's

00:41:26.600 what I

00:41:26.800 would

00:41:26.920 do

00:41:27.420 yeah

00:41:28.020 it's

00:41:28.180 spot

00:41:28.440 on

00:41:28.740 and

00:41:29.180 you

00:41:29.540 know

00:41:29.680 if

00:41:30.040 who

00:41:30.320 you

00:41:30.440 work

00:41:30.680 with

00:41:30.900 and

00:41:31.040 culture

00:41:31.340 matter

00:41:31.680 then

00:41:32.120 don't

00:41:32.580 take

00:41:32.760 a

00:41:32.900 job

00:41:33.180 where

00:41:33.640 the

00:41:34.820 culture

00:41:35.140 is

00:41:35.260 not

00:41:35.420 great

00:41:35.760 and

00:41:36.620 vet

00:41:36.800 it

00:41:36.980 and

00:41:37.280 make

00:41:37.460 that

00:41:37.620 a

00:41:37.740 priority

00:41:38.060 and

00:41:38.280 it's

00:41:38.420 great

00:41:38.580 that

00:41:38.700 you

00:41:38.820 realize

00:41:39.140 that

00:41:39.440 right

00:41:39.800 but

00:41:40.180 it

00:41:40.400 doesn't

00:41:40.680 mean

00:41:40.900 that

00:41:41.040 this

00:41:41.220 is

00:41:41.320 only

00:41:41.500 a

00:41:41.660 company

00:41:41.920 right

00:41:42.240 you

00:41:42.440 can

00:41:42.600 find

00:41:42.820 other

00:41:43.000 companies

00:41:43.380 that

00:41:43.560 have

00:41:43.760 an

00:41:43.860 amazing

00:41:44.100 people

00:41:44.500 you

00:41:45.200 just

00:41:45.400 have

00:41:45.600 to

00:41:45.720 make

00:41:45.900 sure

00:41:46.180 that

00:41:46.760 you

00:41:47.220 validate

00:41:47.620 that

00:41:47.900 so

00:41:48.180 last

00:41:49.700 question

00:41:50.080 from

00:41:50.880 Chris

00:41:51.220 Bell

00:41:51.640 Chris

00:41:52.920 I'm

00:41:53.180 not

00:41:53.320 going to

00:41:53.520 give

00:41:53.660 the

00:41:53.760 backstory

00:41:54.100 I'm

00:41:54.280 just

00:41:54.520 jump

00:41:54.760 to

00:41:54.900 the

00:41:55.040 question

00:41:55.340 here

00:41:55.680 how

00:41:56.280 are

00:41:56.480 you

00:41:56.640 learning

00:41:56.940 to

00:41:57.180 be

00:41:57.340 at

00:41:57.520 peace

00:41:57.840 with

00:41:58.080 who

00:41:58.400 you

00:41:58.620 are

00:41:58.880 right

00:41:59.320 now

00:41:59.780 and

00:42:00.200 how

00:42:00.420 far

00:42:00.720 you've

00:42:01.060 come

00:42:01.480 for

00:42:02.000 me

00:42:02.200 learning

00:42:02.520 both

00:42:02.820 states

00:42:03.360 should

00:42:03.660 exist

00:42:04.120 and

00:42:05.140 and

00:42:05.480 and

00:42:05.800 has

00:42:06.040 been

00:42:06.240 huge

00:42:06.700 yes

00:42:06.980 growth

00:42:07.460 but

00:42:08.040 yes

00:42:08.320 I'm

00:42:08.560 at

00:42:08.680 peace

00:42:09.060 with

00:42:09.280 where

00:42:09.480 I'm

00:42:09.980 at

00:42:10.180 right

00:42:10.500 now

00:42:10.720 as

00:42:10.900 well

00:42:11.260 thrown

00:42:11.860 aside

00:42:12.280 if

00:42:12.500 you're

00:42:12.640 not

00:42:12.860 grinding

00:42:13.300 100%

00:42:14.120 of the

00:42:14.440 time

00:42:14.760 you must

00:42:15.160 be 1.00

00:42:15.340 sucking 0.99

00:42:15.680 yeah 0.98

00:42:18.240 I mean

00:42:18.560 that's

00:42:18.940 that's

00:42:19.400 a

00:42:19.500 common

00:42:19.840 self

00:42:20.200 development

00:42:20.680 myth

00:42:21.960 right

00:42:22.260 that

00:42:22.440 if

00:42:22.560 you're

00:42:22.660 not

00:42:22.840 grinding

00:42:23.320 I

00:42:23.640 even

00:42:23.800 that

00:42:24.020 word

00:42:24.300 is

00:42:24.460 even 1.00

00:42:24.640 stupid 1.00

00:42:24.960 I 1.00

00:42:25.140 hate

00:42:25.300 that

00:42:25.480 word

00:42:25.800 who

00:42:26.400 wants

00:42:26.540 to

00:42:26.720 grind

00:42:27.400 I

00:42:28.800 want

00:42:29.140 to

00:42:29.220 be

00:42:29.340 in

00:42:29.480 flow

00:42:29.900 right

00:42:30.340 I

00:42:30.540 can

00:42:30.700 work

00:42:30.980 just

00:42:31.300 as

00:42:31.480 hard

00:42:31.680 and

00:42:31.780 be

00:42:31.900 more

00:42:32.100 productive

00:42:32.480 if

00:42:32.700 I'm

00:42:32.880 flowing

00:42:33.400 as

00:42:33.840 opposed

00:42:34.140 to

00:42:34.420 grinding

00:42:35.080 and

00:42:36.040 you

00:42:36.220 create

00:42:36.600 flow

00:42:37.040 by

00:42:37.640 having

00:42:38.220 a

00:42:38.460 well

00:42:38.640 balanced

00:42:39.020 life

00:42:39.500 if

00:42:41.460 you're

00:42:41.640 always

00:42:41.960 doing

00:42:42.280 the

00:42:42.500 same

00:42:42.740 thing

00:42:43.060 over

00:42:43.380 and

00:42:43.560 over

00:42:43.760 and

00:42:43.940 over

00:42:44.140 again

00:42:44.740 it's

00:42:45.040 going

00:42:45.180 to

00:42:45.300 feel

00:42:45.500 monotonous

00:42:46.080 and

00:42:46.220 feel

00:42:46.400 like

00:42:46.580 a

00:42:46.700 grind

00:42:47.080 so

00:42:48.020 I

00:42:48.560 think

00:42:48.760 what

00:42:48.920 more

00:42:49.180 men

00:42:49.380 could

00:42:49.560 benefit

00:42:49.880 from

00:42:50.260 is

00:42:50.960 more

00:42:51.220 personal

00:42:51.620 time

00:42:51.980 I

00:42:53.840 think

00:42:54.160 they

00:42:54.380 could

00:42:54.520 also

00:42:54.800 benefit

00:42:55.160 from

00:42:55.720 taking

00:42:56.560 risks

00:42:57.060 and

00:42:57.880 looking

00:42:58.200 at

00:42:58.380 life

00:42:58.620 even

00:42:58.840 their

00:42:59.000 business

00:42:59.340 as

00:42:59.660 a

00:42:59.780 process

00:43:00.140 of

00:43:00.360 experimentation

00:43:00.880 I

00:43:02.080 talked

00:43:02.320 with

00:43:02.440 a

00:43:02.540 close

00:43:02.740 friend

00:43:02.960 just

00:43:03.160 the

00:43:03.280 other

00:43:03.420 day

00:43:03.600 and

00:43:03.700 he's

00:43:03.840 feeling

00:43:04.060 burnt

00:43:04.360 out

00:43:04.560 with

00:43:04.700 what

00:43:04.820 he's

00:43:04.940 got

00:43:05.100 going

00:43:05.320 on

00:43:05.560 and

00:43:05.720 rightfully

00:43:06.220 so

00:43:06.600 I've

00:43:07.040 felt

00:43:07.200 burnt

00:43:07.440 out

00:43:07.680 in

00:43:07.840 my

00:43:07.980 life

00:43:08.180 too

00:43:08.380 as

00:43:09.040 every

00:43:09.320 man

00:43:09.500 listening

00:43:09.760 to

00:43:09.880 this

00:43:10.000 podcast

00:43:10.280 has

00:43:10.780 and

00:43:12.480 we

00:43:12.640 talked

00:43:12.880 about

00:43:13.100 some

00:43:13.280 ideas

00:43:13.660 and

00:43:13.920 you

00:43:14.480 know

00:43:14.600 we

00:43:14.760 didn't

00:43:15.140 spend

00:43:15.420 a lot

00:43:15.720 of

00:43:15.820 time

00:43:16.040 talking

00:43:16.420 about

00:43:16.700 it

00:43:16.780 maybe

00:43:16.960 a

00:43:17.120 half

00:43:17.320 hour

00:43:17.620 and

00:43:19.040 he's

00:43:20.160 rejuvenated

00:43:20.700 after

00:43:20.980 that

00:43:21.180 call

00:43:21.440 because

00:43:21.720 there's

00:43:22.120 some

00:43:22.260 things

00:43:22.500 that

00:43:22.640 he

00:43:22.780 can

00:43:22.940 do

00:43:23.160 within

00:43:23.400 his

00:43:23.560 business

00:43:23.900 that

00:43:24.520 are

00:43:24.780 still

00:43:25.000 in

00:43:25.140 the

00:43:25.260 same

00:43:25.460 vein

00:43:25.820 but

00:43:26.200 infuse

00:43:27.240 a little

00:43:27.520 excitement

00:43:28.240 into

00:43:29.060 his

00:43:29.320 life

00:43:29.700 and

00:43:31.020 I'm

00:43:31.460 a

00:43:31.740 big

00:43:31.920 fan

00:43:32.220 of

00:43:32.500 John

00:43:33.020 Eldridge

00:43:33.420 the

00:43:33.660 author

00:43:33.860 of

00:43:34.040 Wild

00:43:34.260 at

00:43:34.380 Heart

00:43:34.620 and

00:43:34.940 one

00:43:35.120 of

00:43:35.200 my

00:43:35.340 favorite

00:43:35.640 quotes

00:43:36.080 is

00:43:36.480 deep

00:43:37.260 in

00:43:37.380 his

00:43:37.500 heart

00:43:37.760 every

00:43:38.080 man

00:43:38.360 longs

00:43:38.800 for

00:43:38.960 a

00:43:39.120 battle

00:43:39.360 to

00:43:39.560 fight

00:43:39.840 an

00:43:40.480 adventure

00:43:40.820 to

00:43:41.060 live

00:43:41.320 and

00:43:41.680 a

00:43:41.820 beauty

00:43:42.060 to

00:43:42.340 rescue

00:43:42.680 so

00:43:44.500 if

00:43:44.900 you're

00:43:45.060 going

00:43:45.360 into

00:43:45.680 work

00:43:46.020 and

00:43:46.140 you're

00:43:46.260 driving

00:43:46.580 to

00:43:46.800 work

00:43:47.000 the

00:43:47.180 same

00:43:47.420 way

00:43:47.820 and

00:43:48.540 you're

00:43:49.160 sitting

00:43:50.760 in

00:43:50.900 a

00:43:51.020 cubicle

00:43:51.460 doing

00:43:51.780 work

00:43:52.120 that

00:43:52.300 you

00:43:52.420 hate

00:43:52.680 and

00:43:52.840 you

00:43:52.960 get

00:43:53.100 done

00:43:53.340 too

00:43:53.640 late

00:43:53.900 and

00:43:54.040 drive

00:43:54.340 home

00:44:01.920 oh

00:44:02.140 my

00:44:02.280 goodness

00:44:02.720 what

00:44:03.440 a 1.00

00:44:03.740 miserable

00:44:04.180 existence

00:44:05.260 what

00:44:05.680 are

00:44:05.780 you

00:44:05.900 doing

00:44:06.260 what

00:44:07.760 is

00:44:07.900 your

00:44:08.040 battle

00:44:08.460 like

00:44:09.760 what

00:44:09.940 drives

00:44:10.560 you

00:44:10.700 what

00:44:10.880 compels

00:44:11.440 you

00:44:11.600 what

00:44:11.760 fires

00:44:12.260 you

00:44:12.460 up

00:44:12.620 what

00:44:12.780 charges

00:44:13.240 you

00:44:13.540 what

00:44:13.780 issues

00:44:14.160 do

00:44:14.320 you

00:44:14.400 see

00:44:14.580 in

00:44:14.660 the

00:44:14.760 world

00:44:15.040 that

00:44:15.500 need

00:44:15.660 to

00:44:15.740 be

00:44:15.860 addressed

00:44:16.200 and

00:44:16.360 what

00:44:16.580 are

00:44:16.680 you

00:44:16.800 doing

00:44:17.100 about

00:44:17.420 it

00:44:17.600 so

00:44:19.200 that's

00:44:19.380 the

00:44:19.500 battle

00:44:19.820 the

00:44:20.140 adventure

00:44:20.620 yeah

00:44:21.820 do

00:44:22.380 you

00:44:22.540 go

00:44:23.000 outside

00:44:23.500 do

00:44:24.100 you

00:44:24.220 take

00:44:24.460 risks

00:44:24.820 do

00:44:25.100 you

00:44:25.220 try

00:44:25.440 new

00:44:25.640 things

00:44:26.000 are

00:44:26.220 there

00:44:26.340 new

00:44:26.520 hobbies

00:44:26.940 and

00:44:27.480 interests

00:44:27.860 and

00:44:27.960 activities

00:44:28.340 do

00:44:28.540 you

00:44:28.640 go

00:44:28.760 to

00:44:28.860 new

00:44:29.000 places

00:44:29.360 do

00:44:29.540 you

00:44:29.660 meet

00:44:29.880 new

00:44:30.060 people

00:44:30.480 if

00:44:31.300 not

00:44:31.560 do

00:44:31.880 that

00:44:32.180 and

00:44:33.320 a

00:44:33.460 beauty

00:44:33.620 to

00:44:33.780 rescue

00:44:34.080 is

00:44:34.740 to

00:44:35.300 serve

00:44:35.680 the

00:44:35.880 woman 0.99

00:44:36.060 in

00:44:36.200 your

00:44:36.300 life

00:44:36.560 to

00:44:36.760 the

00:44:36.900 nth

00:44:37.080 degree

00:44:37.380 you

00:44:38.900 know

00:44:38.980 we

00:44:39.060 talked

00:44:39.280 about

00:44:39.520 that

00:44:39.680 with

00:44:39.840 another

00:44:40.300 question

00:44:40.780 about

00:44:41.220 making

00:44:41.960 sure

00:44:42.240 she

00:44:42.440 doesn't

00:44:42.680 feel

00:44:42.920 like

00:44:43.180 she's

00:44:43.460 part

00:44:43.660 of

00:44:43.740 a

00:44:43.840 checklist

00:44:44.160 good

00:44:44.440 don't

00:44:44.720 do

00:44:44.860 that

00:44:45.160 I'm

00:44:46.600 not

00:44:46.720 saying

00:44:46.900 you

00:44:47.000 need

00:44:47.100 to

00:44:47.240 rescue

00:44:47.600 her

00:44:47.920 in

00:44:48.120 a

00:44:48.240 literal

00:44:48.440 sense

00:44:48.900 but

00:44:49.280 I

00:44:49.920 think

00:44:50.120 most

00:44:50.480 men

00:44:50.680 listening

00:44:50.940 to

00:44:51.060 this

00:44:51.180 podcast

00:44:51.500 really

00:44:51.920 want

00:44:52.160 a

00:44:52.320 deep

00:44:52.500 and

00:44:52.640 meaningful

00:44:53.120 relationship

00:44:53.740 with

00:44:54.580 their

00:44:55.140 significant

00:44:55.640 other

00:44:55.940 the way

00:44:57.120 you do

00:44:57.400 that

00:44:57.640 is by

00:44:58.080 pouring

00:44:58.540 everything

00:44:59.160 into

00:44:59.580 it

00:44:59.840 and

00:45:00.980 if

00:45:01.100 you're

00:45:01.220 missing

00:45:01.480 any

00:45:01.760 of

00:45:01.920 those

00:45:02.080 components

00:45:02.540 in

00:45:02.760 life

00:45:03.060 then

00:45:03.380 I

00:45:03.620 think

00:45:03.900 you

00:45:04.140 are

00:45:04.320 going

00:45:04.440 to

00:45:04.540 feel

00:45:04.720 like

00:45:04.920 you're

00:45:05.040 grinding

00:45:05.360 because

00:45:05.780 you

00:45:06.140 are

00:45:06.520 there's

00:45:08.060 no

00:45:08.320 lubricant

00:45:10.940 for lack

00:45:11.480 of a better

00:45:11.780 term

00:45:12.160 to

00:45:12.520 the way

00:45:13.240 that

00:45:13.580 will

00:45:14.600 actually

00:45:14.880 help

00:45:15.180 you

00:45:15.400 produce

00:45:16.160 a

00:45:16.340 more

00:45:16.720 enjoyable

00:45:17.840 fulfilling

00:45:18.520 life

00:45:20.120 and

00:45:21.120 I

00:45:21.220 may

00:45:21.360 have

00:45:21.460 had

00:45:21.640 a

00:45:21.760 different

00:45:21.980 conversation

00:45:22.520 with

00:45:22.760 you

00:45:22.860 two

00:45:23.020 three

00:45:23.220 years

00:45:23.460 ago

00:45:23.680 about

00:45:23.940 it

00:45:24.080 but

00:45:24.320 I'm

00:45:24.620 trying

00:45:24.860 to

00:45:25.040 find

00:45:25.340 a lot

00:45:25.620 more

00:45:25.800 joy

00:45:26.200 and

00:45:26.420 fulfillment

00:45:26.820 not

00:45:28.140 only

00:45:28.320 in

00:45:28.460 the

00:45:28.560 work

00:45:28.760 I

00:45:28.920 do

00:45:29.080 but

00:45:29.260 just

00:45:29.460 other

00:45:29.740 aspects

00:45:30.100 of

00:45:30.260 my

00:45:30.400 life

00:45:30.740 you

00:45:31.840 know

00:45:31.960 I

00:45:32.480 love

00:45:33.020 the

00:45:33.180 question

00:45:33.560 Chris

00:45:33.900 maybe

00:45:34.180 a

00:45:34.600 resource

00:45:35.160 recent

00:45:36.080 resource

00:45:36.560 for

00:45:36.780 me

00:45:37.120 is

00:45:37.920 gap

00:45:38.620 in

00:45:38.740 the

00:45:38.840 game

00:45:39.080 right

00:45:40.020 this

00:45:40.320 idea

00:45:40.760 that

00:45:41.060 sometimes

00:45:41.660 especially

00:45:42.100 in this

00:45:42.540 space

00:45:42.880 we

00:45:43.080 focus

00:45:43.520 always

00:45:43.900 on

00:45:47.840 where

00:45:48.220 I

00:45:49.020 need

00:45:49.200 to

00:45:49.300 be

00:45:49.400 where

00:45:49.620 I

00:45:49.740 need

00:45:49.880 to

00:45:49.980 be

00:45:50.080 and

00:45:50.200 it's

00:45:50.320 like

00:45:50.540 stop

00:45:52.060 how

00:45:53.260 did

00:45:53.480 you

00:45:53.600 do

00:45:53.740 today

00:45:54.200 are

00:45:55.420 you

00:45:55.540 better

00:45:55.760 today

00:45:56.080 than

00:45:56.260 you

00:45:56.360 were

00:45:56.480 yesterday

00:45:56.940 like

00:45:57.240 celebrate

00:45:57.700 the

00:45:57.960 gain

00:45:58.500 and

00:45:59.400 and

00:45:59.620 for

00:45:59.820 me

00:46:00.260 it's

00:46:01.000 just

00:46:01.140 being

00:46:01.340 present

00:46:01.780 with

00:46:02.240 where

00:46:02.500 I've

00:46:02.720 been

00:46:02.980 where

00:46:03.820 I

00:46:03.980 am

00:46:04.100 at

00:46:04.420 but

00:46:05.120 the

00:46:05.260 other

00:46:05.400 part

00:46:05.640 of

00:46:05.760 this

00:46:06.000 that

00:46:06.180 I

00:46:06.300 think

00:46:06.460 is

00:46:06.600 critical

00:46:06.960 is

00:46:07.220 just

00:46:07.400 being

00:46:07.600 grateful

00:46:08.140 there's

00:46:08.960 a sense

00:46:09.300 of

00:46:09.460 gratitude

00:46:09.860 in

00:46:10.180 this

00:46:10.420 right

00:46:10.680 like

00:46:11.020 it's

00:46:11.640 funny

00:46:17.840 it

00:46:18.200 always

00:46:18.600 needs

00:46:18.880 and

00:46:19.080 it

00:46:19.240 has

00:46:19.960 helped

00:46:20.280 me

00:46:20.500 be

00:46:21.420 successful

00:46:22.000 maybe

00:46:23.120 not

00:46:23.460 happy

00:46:24.080 but

00:46:25.800 it's

00:46:25.980 helped

00:46:26.120 me

00:46:26.300 be

00:46:26.640 driven

00:46:27.020 or

00:46:27.200 pleasant

00:46:27.640 or

00:46:28.060 enjoyable

00:46:28.560 or

00:46:28.940 at

00:46:29.080 peace

00:46:29.260 add

00:46:31.040 that

00:46:31.520 on

00:46:31.820 it's

00:46:32.260 all

00:46:32.420 true

00:46:32.780 right

00:46:33.400 so

00:46:33.780 I

00:46:35.020 have

00:46:35.200 to

00:46:35.340 stop

00:46:35.840 and

00:46:36.780 sometimes

00:46:37.380 you know

00:46:38.280 I have

00:46:38.680 to stop

00:46:39.040 more

00:46:39.220 often

00:46:39.500 be

00:46:39.780 grateful

00:46:40.580 and

00:46:41.820 it's

00:46:42.040 wild

00:46:42.440 to

00:46:42.640 me

00:46:42.780 because

00:46:43.080 I

00:46:43.360 just

00:46:43.560 sit

00:46:43.760 back

00:46:44.000 and

00:46:44.120 I

00:46:44.200 go

00:46:44.400 or

00:46:45.700 you

00:46:46.560 know

00:46:46.760 look

00:46:47.760 at

00:46:47.880 my

00:46:48.020 circumstance

00:46:48.620 and

00:46:48.920 I

00:46:49.000 think

00:46:49.300 and

00:46:49.660 I'm

00:46:49.960 not

00:46:50.120 this

00:46:50.360 isn't

00:46:50.620 a

00:46:50.760 sob

00:46:50.940 story

00:46:51.260 it's

00:46:51.440 just

00:46:51.600 as

00:46:51.880 an

00:46:52.000 example

00:46:52.420 it's

00:46:52.620 like

00:46:52.820 right

00:46:53.600 I was

00:46:54.280 born in

00:46:54.620 Elsinore

00:46:55.160 Utah

00:46:55.540 you know

00:46:57.020 what my

00:46:57.260 plan was

00:46:58.100 at a

00:46:58.460 high

00:46:58.640 school

00:46:58.940 work

00:47:01.000 in

00:47:01.220 Richfield

00:47:01.780 try to

00:47:02.320 make

00:47:02.640 50,000

00:47:03.680 or

00:47:04.060 40,000

00:47:04.780 a year

00:47:05.140 was like

00:47:05.720 a measure

00:47:06.720 of success

00:47:07.320 in my

00:47:07.580 life

00:47:07.900 that

00:47:10.260 that's

00:47:10.580 that was

00:47:11.760 my

00:47:12.000 star

00:47:12.520 yeah

00:47:14.160 really

00:47:15.060 like

00:47:15.940 I

00:47:17.560 I

00:47:17.920 don't

00:47:18.060 even

00:47:18.200 know

00:47:18.320 if

00:47:18.440 I

00:47:18.540 ever

00:47:18.740 made

00:47:19.000 40

00:47:19.340 I

00:47:19.500 think

00:47:19.700 I

00:47:19.900 skipped

00:47:20.420 40

00:47:20.800 and

00:47:20.980 just

00:47:21.140 made

00:47:21.380 way

00:47:21.760 more

00:47:21.960 than

00:47:22.140 that

00:47:22.460 immediately

00:47:23.200 right

00:47:24.020 even

00:47:24.620 during

00:47:25.020 college

00:47:25.560 right

00:47:25.800 like

00:47:26.020 I

00:47:26.240 have

00:47:26.720 outblown

00:47:27.760 any

00:47:28.660 expectations

00:47:29.520 based upon

00:47:31.200 my

00:47:31.420 upbringing

00:47:31.880 but yet

00:47:33.920 I don't

00:47:34.280 celebrate

00:47:34.700 it

00:47:35.040 oh

00:47:36.020 it's

00:47:36.180 not

00:47:36.340 good

00:47:36.500 enough

00:47:36.680 it's

00:47:36.780 not

00:47:36.920 good

00:47:37.140 enough

00:47:37.440 and

00:47:37.600 it's

00:47:37.760 like

00:47:38.020 oh

00:47:38.480 guys

00:47:38.940 right

00:47:39.180 like

00:47:39.400 and

00:47:39.560 so

00:47:39.980 we

00:47:40.100 just

00:47:40.240 have

00:47:40.400 to

00:47:40.480 be

00:47:40.660 mindful

00:47:41.100 and

00:47:42.220 and

00:47:42.480 last

00:47:43.380 little

00:47:43.600 segue

00:47:43.960 comment

00:47:44.980 here

00:47:45.340 we

00:47:48.440 even

00:47:48.660 do

00:47:48.820 this

00:47:49.000 in

00:47:49.120 the

00:47:49.200 iron

00:47:49.320 council

00:47:49.700 and

00:47:49.820 I

00:47:49.940 was

00:47:50.080 coaching

00:47:50.660 some

00:47:50.940 new

00:47:51.120 members

00:47:51.440 just

00:47:51.720 last

00:47:52.020 week

00:47:52.240 on

00:47:52.420 this

00:47:52.640 right

00:47:52.940 and

00:47:53.120 it's

00:47:53.360 like

00:47:53.620 objective

00:47:54.340 and

00:47:54.700 my

00:47:55.080 plan

00:47:55.420 for

00:47:55.600 the

00:47:55.700 end

00:47:55.780 of

00:47:55.960 the

00:47:55.980 quarter

00:47:56.280 right

00:47:56.700 and

00:47:56.820 it's

00:47:56.980 like

00:47:57.240 okay

00:47:57.860 okay

00:47:58.340 when I'm

00:47:58.820 going to

00:47:58.880 get

00:47:59.000 all

00:47:59.140 this

00:47:59.320 done

00:47:59.580 what

00:47:59.800 does

00:48:00.000 that

00:48:00.200 mean

00:48:00.620 you

00:48:01.520 know

00:48:01.640 it's

00:48:01.780 like

00:48:01.940 oh

00:48:02.160 well

00:48:02.340 I'm

00:48:02.460 going to

00:48:02.620 be

00:48:02.820 more

00:48:03.020 confident

00:48:03.360 I'm

00:48:03.500 have

00:48:03.660 a

00:48:03.780 better

00:48:03.920 relation

00:48:04.260 with

00:48:04.440 my

00:48:04.600 wife

00:48:04.940 right

00:48:14.980 90

00:48:15.340 days

00:48:15.840 to

00:48:16.480 be

00:48:16.860 courageous

00:48:17.280 don't

00:48:17.620 wait

00:48:17.840 90

00:48:18.200 days

00:48:18.520 to

00:48:18.640 have

00:48:18.740 a

00:48:18.860 great

00:48:19.080 relationship

00:48:19.560 with

00:48:19.780 your

00:48:19.920 spouse

00:48:20.200 don't

00:48:20.500 wait

00:48:20.720 90

00:48:21.080 days

00:48:21.400 to

00:48:21.600 have

00:48:21.860 a

00:48:22.000 great

00:48:22.220 connection

00:48:22.580 with

00:48:22.740 your

00:48:22.860 kid

00:48:23.220 today

00:48:24.540 do

00:48:25.180 it

00:48:25.320 today

00:48:25.740 feel

00:48:26.520 great

00:48:26.920 about

00:48:27.200 today

00:48:27.580 now

00:48:27.960 have

00:48:28.760 some

00:48:28.920 plans

00:48:29.220 and

00:48:29.400 some

00:48:29.540 goals

00:48:29.920 right

00:48:30.400 but

00:48:30.620 don't

00:48:31.100 lose

00:48:31.900 the

00:48:32.380 benefit

00:48:32.740 of

00:48:33.060 being

00:48:33.380 present

00:48:33.840 in

00:48:34.000 the

00:48:34.120 moment

00:48:34.400 yeah

00:48:35.800 yeah

00:48:36.500 well said

00:48:36.920 man

00:48:37.160 it's

00:48:37.820 wild

00:48:38.100 well said

00:48:38.560 we had

00:48:39.360 some good

00:48:39.620 questions

00:48:39.980 today

00:48:40.280 I think

00:48:40.720 that was

00:48:40.920 the last

00:48:41.220 one

00:48:41.440 that we

00:48:41.620 got

00:48:41.800 today

00:48:42.120 yes

00:48:42.460 sir

00:48:42.680 and we

00:48:43.260 have

00:48:43.800 tonight

00:48:44.480 is

00:48:44.860 divorce

00:48:45.480 not

00:48:45.680 death

00:48:45.940 correct

00:48:46.420 where's

00:48:47.540 that

00:48:47.660 last

00:48:47.920 night

00:48:48.160 that

00:48:49.300 was

00:48:49.440 last

00:48:49.700 night

00:48:49.980 sorry

00:48:50.740 look

00:48:51.560 at

00:48:51.660 me

00:48:51.920 well

00:48:52.960 and

00:48:53.240 we're

00:48:53.620 recording

00:48:54.060 yeah

00:48:54.640 we're

00:48:54.900 all

00:48:55.140 we're

00:48:55.500 all

00:48:55.640 over

00:48:55.780 the

00:48:55.900 place

00:48:56.180 anyway

00:48:56.900 yeah

00:48:57.220 we're

00:48:57.540 gonna

00:48:57.700 do

00:48:57.940 another

00:48:58.320 preview

00:48:58.780 call

00:48:59.100 if

00:48:59.320 you

00:48:59.420 guys

00:48:59.600 go

00:48:59.820 to

00:49:00.120 divorce

00:49:00.540 not

00:49:00.780 death

00:49:01.020 dot com

00:49:01.580 that

00:49:01.860 new

00:49:02.000 course

00:49:02.260 is

00:49:02.380 now

00:49:02.560 available

00:49:02.920 if

00:49:03.220 you

00:49:03.300 want

00:49:03.400 to 0.50

00:49:03.460 hit

00:49:03.540 a

00:49:03.640 preview

00:49:03.880 call

00:49:04.200 that

00:49:04.440 we're

00:49:11.220 I think

00:49:11.540 experts

00:49:12.040 coming

00:49:12.380 in

00:49:12.640 from

00:49:13.020 attorneys

00:49:13.540 to

00:49:13.880 therapists

00:49:14.380 to

00:49:14.960 coaches

00:49:16.240 to

00:49:18.580 a

00:49:19.180 dating

00:49:19.680 coach

00:49:20.140 like

00:49:20.340 we've

00:49:20.600 got

00:49:20.840 it's

00:49:21.200 gonna

00:49:21.320 be

00:49:21.620 pretty

00:49:22.140 pretty

00:49:22.400 incredible

00:49:22.840 so

00:49:23.360 check

00:49:23.720 it

00:49:23.800 out

00:49:23.920 divorce

00:49:24.360 not

00:49:24.660 death

00:49:24.920 dot com

00:49:25.420 and also

00:49:25.820 check

00:49:26.100 out

00:49:26.240 the

00:49:26.360 iron

00:49:26.540 council

00:49:26.900 at

00:49:27.740 the

00:49:28.120 iron

00:49:28.400 council

00:49:28.740 dot com

00:49:29.840 yeah

00:49:30.180 and

00:49:30.860 guys

00:49:32.100 long time

00:49:32.660 listeners

00:49:33.020 right

00:49:33.360 you might

00:49:33.700 be like

00:49:34.040 oh

00:49:34.220 they're

00:49:34.360 gonna

00:49:34.480 close

00:49:35.000 enrollment

00:49:35.600 that

00:49:36.020 that's

00:49:36.420 no

00:49:36.580 longer

00:49:36.960 right

00:49:37.860 so

00:49:38.080 join

00:49:38.480 us

00:49:38.880 join

00:49:40.540 us

00:49:40.700 at

00:49:40.800 any

00:49:41.220 yeah

00:49:41.360 we're

00:49:41.540 gonna

00:49:41.680 leave

00:49:41.900 it

00:49:42.080 open

00:49:43.320 because

00:49:43.640 I know

00:49:43.900 so many

00:49:44.300 men

00:49:44.680 and I've

00:49:45.280 had this

00:49:45.600 happen

00:49:45.880 over the

00:49:46.160 years

00:49:46.500 where

00:49:46.820 they're

00:49:47.880 ready

00:49:48.100 to go

00:49:48.500 right

00:49:48.780 now

00:49:49.120 because

00:49:49.500 they're

00:49:49.680 already

00:49:49.860 starting

00:49:50.140 to think

00:49:50.500 about

00:49:50.760 new

00:49:50.920 year's

00:49:51.120 resolutions

00:49:51.580 and

00:49:51.940 it's

00:49:52.060 like

00:49:52.220 well

00:49:52.360 why

00:49:52.560 are

00:49:52.700 we

00:49:52.800 gonna

00:49:52.920 limit

00:49:53.300 and

00:49:53.620 close

00:49:53.980 this

00:49:54.180 down

00:49:54.620 if

00:49:55.260 men

00:49:55.460 are

00:49:55.580 listening

00:49:55.800 to

00:49:55.920 this

00:49:56.040 right

00:49:56.220 now

00:49:56.440 and

00:49:56.520 they're

00:49:56.600 like

00:49:56.740 hey

00:49:56.900 I

00:49:57.040 want

00:49:57.220 to

00:49:57.300 get

00:49:57.420 going

00:49:57.680 for

00:49:57.840 the

00:49:57.960 new

00:49:58.100 year

00:49:58.380 and

00:49:59.060 I say

00:50:00.100 sorry

00:50:00.380 you have

00:50:00.560 to wait

00:50:00.920 until

00:50:01.200 the

00:50:01.360 new

00:50:01.500 year

00:50:01.700 like

00:50:02.200 I want

00:50:03.140 them to

00:50:03.420 get going

00:50:03.920 now

00:50:04.300 like you

00:50:04.660 talked

00:50:04.940 about

00:50:05.240 I don't

00:50:05.700 want you

00:50:05.900 to wait

00:50:06.240 90 days

00:50:06.940 let's

00:50:07.700 start

00:50:07.920 today

00:50:08.400 that way

00:50:08.880 in 90

00:50:09.280 days

00:50:09.580 we're

00:50:09.820 90

00:50:10.100 days

00:50:10.360 further

00:50:10.660 than

00:50:11.040 anybody

00:50:11.540 else

00:50:11.900 who

00:50:12.200 kind

00:50:12.660 of

00:50:12.760 sat

00:50:12.980 back

00:50:14.000 on

00:50:14.140 their

00:50:14.280 haunches

00:50:14.680 and

00:50:14.820 didn't

00:50:15.280 didn't

00:50:15.580 do

00:50:15.700 what

00:50:15.840 they

00:50:15.940 ought

00:50:16.040 to

00:50:16.080 be

00:50:16.200 doing

00:50:16.440 today

00:50:17.040 right

00:50:17.320 now

00:50:17.640 so

00:50:18.120 divorce

00:50:18.520 not

00:50:18.720 death

00:50:18.920 dot com

00:50:19.420 the

00:50:19.960 iron

00:50:20.280 council

00:50:20.620 dot com

00:50:21.120 excellent

00:50:21.940 and then

00:50:22.560 to connect

00:50:23.020 with Ryan

00:50:23.720 on the

00:50:24.100 socials

00:50:24.720 whether

00:50:24.920 x or

00:50:25.500 instagram

00:50:25.900 that's

00:50:26.400 at

00:50:26.700 Ryan

00:50:27.080 Mickler

00:50:27.480 and then

00:50:29.240 also

00:50:29.620 you know

00:50:29.980 check us

00:50:30.480 out

00:50:30.720 website

00:50:31.380 newsletters

00:50:32.480 facebook

00:50:33.080 all over

00:50:34.080 right

00:50:34.340 so just

00:50:34.740 stay

00:50:35.000 connected

00:50:35.480 and spread

00:50:37.240 what we're

00:50:37.680 doing man

00:50:38.240 right

00:50:38.480 like I

00:50:38.920 I can't

00:50:39.660 I don't

00:50:40.280 know

00:50:40.400 I feel

00:50:41.260 so empowered

00:50:43.500 by the

00:50:44.020 conversation

00:50:44.620 that we're

00:50:45.080 just having

00:50:45.720 and just

00:50:46.840 the questions

00:50:48.200 that we

00:50:48.620 get

00:50:49.080 other men

00:50:50.000 need to

00:50:50.320 hear this

00:50:50.900 and so

00:50:51.920 maybe

00:50:52.220 maybe a

00:50:52.960 reach out

00:50:53.620 from

00:50:53.860 or an

00:50:54.360 ask

00:50:54.640 from my

00:50:55.240 perspective

00:50:55.700 is

00:50:56.080 share

00:50:56.820 enroll

00:50:57.800 people

00:50:58.220 in what

00:50:58.460 we're

00:50:58.600 doing

00:50:58.940 more

00:50:59.940 guys

00:51:00.240 need

00:51:00.380 to

00:51:00.460 hear

00:51:00.580 the

00:51:00.700 message

00:51:01.100 so

00:51:01.640 absolutely

00:51:02.860 well

00:51:03.740 Kip

00:51:03.900 I appreciate

00:51:04.340 you

00:51:04.640 guys

00:51:04.940 that

00:51:05.060 ask

00:51:05.220 questions

00:51:05.600 appreciate

00:51:05.960 you

00:51:06.320 let's

00:51:06.660 keep

00:51:07.220 working

00:51:07.620 and keep

00:51:08.000 those

00:51:08.180 questions

00:51:08.520 coming

00:51:08.840 we'll be

00:51:09.560 back

00:51:09.860 let's see

00:51:11.360 we

00:51:11.740 I'm

00:51:12.020 trying to

00:51:12.360 think

00:51:12.540 because we

00:51:12.780 changed

00:51:13.020 our

00:51:13.160 recording

00:51:13.520 date

00:51:13.960 Friday

00:51:14.760 we'll be

00:51:15.000 back

00:51:15.220 on Friday

00:51:15.780 yeah

00:51:16.360 yeah

00:51:17.060 Friday

00:51:17.680 we'll be

00:51:18.340 back

00:51:18.520 on Friday

00:51:18.980 but

00:51:19.300 guys

00:51:19.920 until then

00:51:20.400 go out

00:51:20.680 there

00:51:20.800 take

00:51:21.080 action

00:51:21.500 and

00:51:21.860 become

00:51:22.180 the man

00:51:22.500 you

00:51:22.800 are

00:51:23.180 meant

00:51:23.340 to

00:51:23.460 be

00:51:23.680 thank

00:51:24.540 you

00:51:24.680 for

00:51:24.820 listening

00:51:25.080 to

00:51:25.280 the

00:51:25.420 order

00:51:25.620 of

00:51:25.800 man

00:51:26.080 podcast

00:51:26.600 you're

00:51:27.400 ready

00:51:27.520 to

00:51:27.700 take

00:51:27.880 charge

00:51:28.220 of

00:51:28.340 your

00:51:28.460 life

00:51:28.780 and

00:51:29.180 be

00:51:29.300 more

00:51:29.520 of

00:51:29.620 the

00:51:29.700 man

00:51:29.920 you

00:51:30.100 were

00:51:30.260 meant

00:51:30.440 to

00:51:30.600 be

00:51:30.840 we

00:51:31.360 invite

00:51:31.660 you

00:51:31.800 to

00:51:31.920 join

00:51:32.120 the

00:51:32.280 order

00:51:32.520 at

Lead with Curiosity, Don't Make People Part of Your Checklist, and Exceed Your People's Expectations ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

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Lead with Curiosity, Don&#x27;t Make People Part of Your Checklist, and Exceed Your People&#x27;s Expectations ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

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Lead with Curiosity, Don't Make People Part of Your Checklist, and Exceed Your People's Expectations ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING