Order of Man - Life is Short, The Cost of Following Dreams, and Why Homeschool is Better ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

00:00:00.000 You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.

00:00:06.040 When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time. Every time.

00:00:10.500 You are not easily deterred or defeated. Rugged. Resilient. Strong.

00:00:15.520 This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become.

00:00:19.780 At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

00:00:25.000 Mr. Kip Sorensen, what's up, man? It's good to see you, brother.

00:00:27.180 It's good to see you, man. I had a dude.

00:00:31.280 So have you trained and then no injury during training?

00:00:36.840 You go home, sleep, you wake up, and all of a sudden you're like paralyzed?

00:00:41.960 Every day. Every day after training. What happened, though?

00:00:47.900 My back. Oh, man, I'm walking. I'm shuffling my feet. I'm bending halfway over.

00:00:52.900 No pain, no nothing during training. Like, no event occurred.

00:00:57.980 But pinched a nerve or something. You know what that's called, right?

00:01:00.920 You know what that's called, right?

00:01:02.800 No, no, no. I mean, yes.

00:01:04.340 Speed 40?

00:01:05.280 It's actually called LBS. There's a clinically diagnosed condition for that.

00:01:12.160 What is LBS that for?

00:01:14.220 Little bitch syndrome. 1.00

00:01:15.180 I knew it was scumming.

00:01:19.680 I'm telling you, man.

00:01:20.560 I always have a low level of pain in my right joint, just this whole joint.

00:01:28.120 And I've just come to the realization that, like, this is always going to hurt.

00:01:31.800 You know, I've been a little laxydaisical on my training over the past couple of weeks.

00:01:36.100 And my elbow's been feeling pretty good.

00:01:38.700 And then I went last week.

00:01:39.960 I'm like, shit, there it goes again.

00:01:41.740 Act to normal.

00:01:42.560 Yeah.

00:01:43.320 I don't know if I just give up my right arm or what.

00:01:45.880 But you doing all right, man?

00:01:47.540 That's funny.

00:01:47.860 You going to survive?

00:01:49.100 I'm going to survive.

00:01:50.400 In light of your LBS that you have going on?

00:01:52.520 Yeah.

00:01:53.000 My LBS is, it kind of magically just went away right now once you inform me.

00:01:58.760 That's right, man.

00:02:00.220 I don't have it anymore.

00:02:01.460 It's done.

00:02:01.920 That's right.

00:02:02.440 That's right.

00:02:03.200 All right.

00:02:03.760 You're drinking the good stuff today, man.

00:02:05.540 Yeah.

00:02:06.000 Typically, you're drinking a bang, which is like the enemy.

00:02:08.500 But you got your go going on.

00:02:10.060 What flavor do you have there?

00:02:10.940 Let's see it.

00:02:12.000 Hold on.

00:02:12.280 Don't tell me.

00:02:12.620 Don't tell me.

00:02:13.600 Don't tell me.

00:02:14.080 Okay.

00:02:14.940 I was just going to say, show it.

00:02:16.160 Let me see if I can guess it.

00:02:17.160 Sour Apple Sniper.

00:02:19.440 Sniper.

00:02:20.160 Yeah.

00:02:20.500 Have you tried the orange stuff yet?

00:02:22.380 I have not.

00:02:23.500 I haven't.

00:02:24.080 I'll get you some.

00:02:24.640 I'll get you some.

00:02:25.060 I like JPLL.

00:02:26.020 I really drink this just so I can feel like me and JP are close, you know, like we're

00:02:31.480 pals, you know?

00:02:32.580 Yeah.

00:02:32.700 Well, you know, he doesn't know me, but I know him and you know, he knows you, Kip.

00:02:37.260 He knows you.

00:02:38.220 Don't sell yourself short, man.

00:02:40.500 I think he'll probably be at origins immersion camp, which by the way, we're going to come

00:02:44.660 out with some details for you guys, uh, here in the next week because we want, we want

00:02:50.020 a big order of man representation at origin.

00:02:53.220 I would just like, or order of man to just take over origins immersion camp. 0.86

00:02:57.640 Wouldn't that be rad?

00:02:59.080 Yeah.

00:02:59.340 The, you know, the big group photo that they take, what we could do is, is just have a

00:03:04.040 big section.

00:03:04.760 Just order a man guys. 1.00

00:03:06.240 You're like, is this an order of man event or is this an immersion jujitsu camp?

00:03:10.380 I can't tell.

00:03:11.180 And excited at the same time, you know, what would actually be really cool is just, is

00:03:16.380 have Pete make us some like order of man, orange geese or blackies with orange trim black

00:03:23.840 with orange, black with orange trim.

00:03:26.100 Yeah.

00:03:26.440 Yeah.

00:03:26.880 Tight.

00:03:27.600 Yeah.

00:03:28.380 Do you guys have restrictions on colors you can wear at your, uh, at your gym?

00:03:32.680 No, no.

00:03:33.760 Okay.

00:03:34.100 That's a, that's a, yes, that's a, those are fancy gyms do that, but no fancy gyms.

00:03:40.000 All right.

00:03:40.400 Fancy gyms.

00:03:41.280 Yeah.

00:03:41.660 Like, uh, what's the art of jujitsu?

00:03:44.120 Those guys are AOJ.

00:03:45.720 They're pretty art of jujitsu.

00:03:47.400 I don't know.

00:03:47.860 So, yeah, it's like, look them up.

00:03:51.080 There's, they're like the five star of jujitsu gyms.

00:03:53.680 You, you show up and I'm like, oh, should I be all wearing all white in here?

00:03:58.240 You know, like put on some slippers.

00:04:00.600 Yeah.

00:04:01.380 It's so fancy.

00:04:02.820 Yeah.

00:04:03.000 Oh yeah.

00:04:03.600 Yeah.

00:04:04.000 It's, I don't, I hope I don't be insulting here or anything, or I'm not going to be insulting

00:04:08.620 here or anything, but we go to like the redneck of jujitsu gyms.

00:04:11.640 Like we just show up and it's all these mainers and I love it, man.

00:04:16.780 It's like, it's my jam, dude.

00:04:18.340 These, these are my people right here.

00:04:19.940 So it's like, we're not fancy or anything.

00:04:22.320 We just show up and kick each other's asses for an hour and a half.

00:04:25.760 It's all good.

00:04:27.260 Yeah.

00:04:27.780 Clint, Clint caught me.

00:04:29.220 I should, maybe I shouldn't publicly say that.

00:04:31.400 Oh no.

00:04:31.680 He publicly shared it already.

00:04:33.400 He told me.

00:04:34.460 Oh, did he share it?

00:04:35.240 Oh yeah.

00:04:35.840 He's been, dude, he's been telling everybody.

00:04:39.120 I'm just putting that out there.

00:04:40.140 I mean, I don't want to create any riff between you two, but he's been putting it out there

00:04:44.000 that he caught you the other day.

00:04:45.520 Yeah.

00:04:46.220 Yeah.

00:04:46.460 He, he did the, he did the pause.

00:04:48.360 Like, ah, I think that's the first time I've ever caught you.

00:04:51.620 You know, like, you know what?

00:04:52.540 Shut your mouth.

00:04:53.680 What did he catch you in?

00:04:56.600 I don't remember.

00:04:57.580 Actually.

00:04:58.080 You do too.

00:04:59.060 Come on, man.

00:05:00.040 I don't, I don't.

00:05:01.240 I'll ask him.

00:05:02.680 Yeah.

00:05:03.080 He'll remember.

00:05:03.840 Oh, I'm sure.

00:05:04.620 I'm sure.

00:05:04.940 He'll remember.

00:05:06.020 Oh, I'm going to see that.

00:05:08.000 It's in a journal.

00:05:08.740 He, he journals like a little journal entry at the end of the night.

00:05:12.920 I caught Kip today.

00:05:14.860 He was such an amazing experience.

00:05:18.340 No, he's been, he's been telling everybody he caught.

00:05:20.960 He's been.

00:05:22.500 Copy that.

00:05:23.620 Yeah.

00:05:24.040 So just, just be aware.

00:05:25.400 Just be aware of that.

00:05:26.640 I told him, I said, you know, what's interesting is, is, is, is he, is he a blue belt or a white

00:05:31.980 belt?

00:05:32.240 I don't know.

00:05:32.740 No, he's a white belt.

00:05:33.900 Yeah.

00:05:34.080 He's been trained for about a year.

00:05:35.360 Dude, dude.

00:05:37.200 Clint's, Clint's different though, because I remember I went and trained with him maybe six to eight

00:05:42.320 months ago.

00:05:43.640 And I think either I was on the tail end of my white belt or maybe just got my blue belt.

00:05:49.280 And I think he just got started.

00:05:51.060 Yeah.

00:05:51.220 And I was like, holy shit, this guy is legit.

00:05:54.840 Like he's a different kind of white belt for sure. 1.00

00:05:57.620 Yeah, for sure.

00:05:58.500 Yeah.

00:05:58.700 He, he's gotten really good, really quick.

00:06:01.280 Yeah.

00:06:01.840 It was funny.

00:06:02.720 Those guys, um, kind of the Jack Donovan of what I'm calling the Jack Donovan crew, you

00:06:08.060 know, cause I told you they started doing a little bit of training on Sundays and they're

00:06:11.980 like, let's go shooting.

00:06:13.020 And one of the guys is like, Hey, you go and shooting with us.

00:06:15.640 And I'm like, Oh, next time or whatever.

00:06:17.640 And he goes, hopefully you're not as good as shooting as you are at jujitsu.

00:06:20.880 And I'm like, I don't know why that's a concern unless we're shooting at each other, you might

00:06:26.820 be with that crew, but I don't know what you guys are down.

00:06:29.580 Like you got a rough crowd.

00:06:31.240 You know, I, I don't know what's, what's planned.

00:06:34.200 Jack Donovan's like, all right, stand off.

00:06:36.760 You walk, you know, who knows what's going on.

00:06:39.160 I'll give you a 30 second headstart.

00:06:41.120 Like on a whole other breed going on. 0.99

00:06:43.620 Oh, what's the movie it's on Mel Gibson's in it.

00:06:47.080 It's a Maverick.

00:06:49.100 Do you, did you ever see that show?

00:06:51.300 Yeah.

00:06:51.620 Yeah.

00:06:52.040 Where the, the Indian guy was like, Hey, uh, we've got this Russian who wants to hunt 1.00

00:06:57.860 a human.

00:06:58.340 So you're going to pretend like you're an Indian. 0.97

00:07:00.200 And he gives them like a 20 second headstart.

00:07:05.660 That's you.

00:07:06.460 That's why they want you to come.

00:07:07.860 So if they start putting you in Indian, you know, a headdress or gear, like I'd be a little 1.00

00:07:13.140 worried if I were you.

00:07:15.400 Totally.

00:07:16.680 Yeah.

00:07:17.120 On the outside, they're like, yeah, you want to come shooting?

00:07:19.500 Sure.

00:07:19.700 It's really fun.

00:07:20.340 We play cowboys and Indians and you're the Indian.

00:07:23.560 If I'm just telling you, if that's what the case is, like, just, just don't, don't play

00:07:28.640 that game.

00:07:29.320 Do we talk about that anymore?

00:07:30.860 Is that politically, politically correct?

00:07:32.820 I don't know if we can address that or not.

00:07:34.580 Yeah.

00:07:35.140 Maybe we, you know, let's think about people, cowboys and brainstorm anyone that we might

00:07:39.600 potentially offend before we have these.

00:07:41.880 So then that way we can make sure that we talk about nothing.

00:07:44.500 We don't need, we just sit in silence for an hour.

00:07:49.020 We don't need to, we don't need to brainstorm that regardless of what you say.

00:07:54.780 Yeah.

00:07:55.100 People are going to be offended, which is crazy.

00:07:57.640 You know, it's, I mean, we talked about Indians.

00:08:00.540 We talked about cowboys.

00:08:01.700 We talked about rednecks already. 1.00

00:08:04.040 Let's just keep going.

00:08:05.340 Let's just keep going.

00:08:06.580 All right, man.

00:08:07.060 Should we get into some questions today?

00:08:08.820 Yeah, for sure.

00:08:09.740 For sure.

00:08:10.120 And, and great eps on Friday field notes and, uh, the Jack Donovan was, was great as well.

00:08:16.320 Yeah.

00:08:16.960 Yeah.

00:08:17.240 It's always, he's an interesting dude.

00:08:18.800 I always get some, some interesting feedback on that.

00:08:23.580 Cause he's such a, I mean, he's so solid, you know, I've, have you met Jack in person?

00:08:29.440 Yeah.

00:08:30.100 Yeah.

00:08:30.480 Well, remember I was training with his weird book book release thing or whatever.

00:08:35.700 Yeah.

00:08:36.140 But that's what makes him interesting.

00:08:37.520 He does some weird shit that you're like, Whoa, I don't know about this.

00:08:42.580 And I like people like that.

00:08:44.120 I want to, somebody asked me on the, about the, uh, the podcast the other day and they're

00:08:47.960 like, Hey, who do you want?

00:08:48.880 I'm like, you know, I just want to talk to weird people anymore.

00:08:52.400 Like I'm so sick of talking to people who are just like normal and bland and politically

00:08:57.140 correct.

00:08:57.940 I just want to talk to weirdos and assholes.

00:09:00.160 Like that's who I want to talk to because at least they make it interesting.

00:09:03.820 And Jack's like that, you know, he's very fascinating, very interesting.

00:09:08.260 He's pretty solid.

00:09:09.660 You know, a lot, a lot of what he talks about with regards to masculinity is things that

00:09:14.100 I actually believe in has actually shaped a lot of what I believe about masculinity, but

00:09:19.100 he's got some edges, you know, that make him, make him different, make him weird and strange.

00:09:23.460 And I like that.

00:09:24.320 That's cool.

00:09:25.060 Yeah.

00:09:25.520 Like he admitted on the episode with you, it's like, yeah, if it's off boundaries and

00:09:29.700 I probably shouldn't, and it's been categorized as like bad.

00:09:32.680 I kind of like go that direction naturally.

00:09:35.360 And those are the interesting people.

00:09:37.200 Yeah.

00:09:37.600 Those are the people.

00:09:38.480 In fact, those are the people that we need because everybody is just so robotic and monotonous

00:09:44.400 and do what you're told.

00:09:46.820 Man, been there, done that.

00:09:48.320 And I'm, I'll tell you like, even the amount of people that reach out to me and they're

00:09:53.340 like, Hey, I want to come talk to you about leadership.

00:09:54.980 I'm like, I don't want to talk about leadership on my podcast.

00:09:59.340 I mean, leadership is important, but what else, you know, like what else you got?

00:10:04.340 Let's get something different going on here.

00:10:06.120 So hopefully we can bring some answers that are a little different, at least refreshing

00:10:09.640 in a world that doesn't want to rock the boat.

00:10:12.140 Hopefully we can rock it a little bit.

00:10:14.380 Yeah.

00:10:14.520 All right.

00:10:15.240 Well, we got our marching orders.

00:10:16.620 Rock the boat is what I heard.

00:10:18.100 Right.

00:10:18.720 So our, our questions today, uh, we're actually fielding from Facebook, uh, to join us there.

00:10:24.040 Facebook.com slash group slash order, man.

00:10:26.320 All right.

00:10:26.680 Riley DeWert, Ryan Mickler.

00:10:29.140 I know that you spent time in the military.

00:10:30.880 What is your biggest takeaway from your time in service?

00:10:34.300 Any leaders or peers that had a lasting impact on you?

00:10:39.760 You know, I think about a lot of guys in the military, uh, and, and I don't know that

00:10:43.500 there's one individual who I thought, you know, this is the guy, like this is the guy

00:10:48.000 I want to, I want to model or I want to be like, I wasn't serving under Jocko.

00:10:52.200 If that were the case, obviously he'd be the guy, you know?

00:10:55.240 Yeah.

00:10:55.960 I was serving under a bunch of guys, pretty much like me.

00:10:58.920 Um, some had obviously more experience than I did and taught me some good things, but there

00:11:04.960 wasn't like one person that I thought, this is the guy.

00:11:09.600 Well, what did I learn?

00:11:10.580 I, you know, here's what I learned.

00:11:11.980 I learned to play for keeps, you know, I spent some time in Iraq.

00:11:16.100 I was in Ramadi in 2005 and 2006.

00:11:18.740 Speaking of Jocko, that's 2006 was just about the time early 2006, I believe it was April

00:11:23.000 or may somewhere in there, uh, is when he got to Ramadi, he and his, his, uh, task task

00:11:27.680 unit bruiser.

00:11:29.540 So we had a little bit of overlap.

00:11:31.000 I didn't know who he was at the time.

00:11:32.240 We knew who Chris Kyle was, but I didn't know who Jocko was at the time.

00:11:34.740 Uh, and, and what I learned is to play for keeps, you know, life is short.

00:11:39.380 I remember when I got to Iraq, we, the unit that we were replacing all piled us into the

00:11:45.080 Humvees and they said, Hey, let me just give you a tour of the base.

00:11:47.200 And so we toured the base and there was mortar holes and rocket blasts and every, everything

00:11:52.160 along the base.

00:11:53.200 I'm like, Holy shit.

00:11:54.160 What did we just get ourselves into?

00:11:55.500 The guys that we replaced, they literally would not walk to the chow hall, which was

00:12:01.200 probably a 10th, maybe a quarter of a mile, maybe away.

00:12:06.260 And they wouldn't walk from their, their position to the chow hall.

00:12:11.120 What they had to do is they had to, they had, they did it on a rotation.

00:12:14.020 So if it was your turn to go, you had to go and there was, you had to get the food for

00:12:19.460 like three to five guys.

00:12:22.080 So that way only you were at risk, not all.

00:12:24.660 You were going to die.

00:12:25.900 If it was your day, your day, like sucks to be you.

00:12:28.600 You're dead.

00:12:29.820 Go get me a lunch.

00:12:31.200 Go get me lunch.

00:12:31.940 Cause my lunch is more important than your life.

00:12:35.360 And when I walked into the base or excuse me, the office building, I say office building,

00:12:39.780 that's a loose translation.

00:12:41.300 But when I walked into the office building, I saw pictures of 14 soldiers on the wall.

00:12:45.900 And I asked one of the captains there, I said, Hey, you know, who are these guys right

00:12:49.100 here?

00:12:49.260 And he says, so those are the 14 guys that we've lost in a year.

00:12:53.420 And that's the job we were going to do.

00:12:57.060 And that's when it became real for me.

00:12:58.660 Like, Oh my goodness.

00:13:00.120 Like, this is real at this point.

00:13:02.920 Yeah.

00:13:03.400 14 soldiers lost.

00:13:04.580 These guys are afraid to walk a 10th of a mile to the chow hall.

00:13:08.540 There's rocket holes, mortar blast, mortar holes everywhere on the base.

00:13:13.840 We live on the base.

00:13:15.280 Yeah.

00:13:15.720 On the base itself.

00:13:17.400 It was the worst strategic place to ever have a base.

00:13:20.500 I'm not sure why we did other than it was an Iraqi detention facility at one point.

00:13:24.180 And it was convenient because there was enough buildings.

00:13:26.720 And I don't even want to know what took place in the buildings that we lived in.

00:13:31.460 I don't even want to think about it.

00:13:32.640 And we got hit with rockets and mortars every single day.

00:13:40.900 There wasn't a day that went by that we didn't get hit with rockets or mortars or have to

00:13:45.860 rally the QRF quick reactionary force, or our guys were outside the wire, which meant outside

00:13:52.700 of the base, dealing with enemy encounters, IEDs, improvised explosive devices, et cetera,

00:13:57.540 et cetera.

00:13:57.840 Not a day that went by.

00:14:00.300 And what my job was, was to coordinate the base defense.

00:14:07.140 So I was a shift supervisor for base defense.

00:14:09.560 So as we had threats at the, at the gates or our observation posts acknowledged a threat or

00:14:18.820 saw a threat, or we had a very limited, uh, counter fire, uh, artillery mission, it was

00:14:26.980 my job to determine how we were going to react to that threat.

00:14:32.800 And what I learned is that the decisions I was going to be making were for real.

00:14:37.840 If I had a bad day, it wasn't like somebody was upset.

00:14:41.780 It wasn't like, you know, you, you were down for a couple of days or you declared bankruptcy

00:14:48.160 or you had gotten a lawsuit or you were dealing with a minor medical condition.

00:14:51.820 Like if I had a bad day, somebody died.

00:14:53.740 And I learned to play for keeps.

00:14:59.020 And I was thinking about this just the other day because I was walking out in the field

00:15:02.840 with my family.

00:15:04.020 My, my oldest son just turned 13.

00:15:06.980 It means I got five years with him.

00:15:11.300 You have kids that are out of, or close to out of the house.

00:15:15.240 Yeah.

00:15:16.920 Five years.

00:15:18.440 I could die today.

00:15:20.640 I could run down to the gas station or run an errand or, you know, and somebody can T-bone.

00:15:25.440 I was listening to Matt Walsh the other day.

00:15:26.760 He said, you know, what's going to kill you is already out there.

00:15:30.660 It's either inside of your body already.

00:15:32.420 It's probably already inside of your body.

00:15:34.640 Already growing.

00:15:35.300 Yeah.

00:15:35.600 Right.

00:15:36.920 Or there's your neighbor who's working away on his computer, doing his job, just like

00:15:41.620 you are.

00:15:41.980 And he's going to run a red light tomorrow and he's going to T-bone you and kill you.

00:15:45.920 Like whatever's going to kill you is already present.

00:15:48.020 It's already there.

00:15:50.300 We don't have a lot of time, gents.

00:15:52.260 Like whether it's five years or 50 years, you don't have a lot of time.

00:15:58.280 And some of you are so worried about, oh, you know, what, what would this person think

00:16:03.200 about me?

00:16:03.760 And I don't know if it's going to work.

00:16:04.980 You don't have a whole lot of time.

00:16:06.760 Do you realize that you have no time on this planet?

00:16:10.800 And you're worried about what somebody else is thinking about you.

00:16:14.360 So you're not going to do it.

00:16:17.500 That was a beautiful blessing.

00:16:18.900 It was painful, but it was a beautiful blessing to me because I realized, yeah, when I go to

00:16:25.140 the chow hall to get my lunch today, I could be dead.

00:16:28.020 I remember, I think it was the last two or three days we were getting ready to, to, to ship

00:16:34.220 out, to go home.

00:16:35.840 And I was walking to the chow hall and our sirens came on and those sirens let you know

00:16:40.920 that there's, there's an incoming round.

00:16:43.020 We have enough time to pick them up and there's an incoming round.

00:16:45.540 And I looked around and I'm like, holy shit, like there's nothing, nothing for me to hide

00:16:50.520 behind.

00:16:50.980 And so I saw a palm tree and I ran over to the palm tree and I just got as low as I

00:16:54.140 could behind the palm tree.

00:16:55.320 And that's all I could do.

00:16:56.480 It's like, it's my time.

00:16:57.360 It's my time.

00:16:57.700 If this mortar or rocket lands on this palm tree, I'm dead.

00:17:00.400 So I get behind the palm tree and probably 70, 80 yards, somewhere in there.

00:17:06.680 So, uh, we had not weed an engineering unit that had come in to replace us or, or work

00:17:12.220 with us had built, um, these makeshift buildings.

00:17:16.440 There was probably, I would say four to five guys in each building that they slept there.

00:17:21.060 And there was, it was basically a four by four, a four by five grid.

00:17:25.180 So there was 20 or so plywood buildings.

00:17:27.760 And that mortar hit those buildings, which was, like I said, 70, 80 yards away.

00:17:34.120 I get up, I'm with my butt.

00:17:35.980 I'm actually with two buddies, two buddies I went to high school with, uh, Tony and Jen.

00:17:40.720 And we run over there.

00:17:43.180 And the first person we come to is this young woman and she's holding her wrist.

00:17:48.400 She's like, she's like holding her wrist.

00:17:50.820 And we look at her hand and her, like half of her hand is blown off, like just completely

00:17:55.200 gone.

00:17:55.560 So she's just like, and I'll never forget the, just the vibrant color of red that was

00:18:00.640 dripping from her hand.

00:18:03.400 And I was like, Oh my goodness, this is insane.

00:18:06.920 And my buddy, Jed, who was trained in medical stuff, he did some additional medical training.

00:18:11.580 He said, all right, you're in shock.

00:18:13.260 Like, let me get you put some pressure on.

00:18:15.940 He put her in this concrete bunker.

00:18:17.580 It was kind of a tunnel.

00:18:18.540 You know, if you think about those big four foot concrete pipes, you know what I'm talking

00:18:23.660 about?

00:18:24.320 He threw her in one of those and he's like, just stay here.

00:18:28.260 Pressure.

00:18:28.860 Stay here.

00:18:29.620 I got to work with some other people.

00:18:31.420 So he did that.

00:18:32.740 I was very impressed with his speed of reacting to the situation.

00:18:36.660 We ran over to the buildings and by this time they were demolished.

00:18:42.000 Kip, they were gone, gone, burned to the ground.

00:18:48.000 And we're, we're, we're, we're running around trying to see who needs help and everything

00:18:51.780 else.

00:18:52.140 And we come around this one building and the medics had come over from Charlie med and

00:18:56.680 they, they threw a couple of guys into the back of a gator.

00:19:00.460 You know how, like if a football player gets injured, they throw them on a gator and they

00:19:03.360 haul them off the field.

00:19:04.280 It was like that.

00:19:04.960 And they were throwing a couple of dead bodies onto this gator and, and taking them wherever

00:19:11.400 they take them, man.

00:19:13.760 I'm telling you, life is short.

00:19:16.060 Those are, those were kids.

00:19:18.180 I remember one guy, he looked, he looked tall.

00:19:19.680 He was dead.

00:19:20.440 All right.

00:19:21.180 You know, when you see a dead body, he was dead and he looked like a kid.

00:19:24.480 He was tall.

00:19:24.980 I remember he was tall.

00:19:25.700 He's probably Hispanic of, of, of some sorts.

00:19:29.600 And he was young, man, like young.

00:19:34.400 And I'm just remember thinking, God, what a waste of life.

00:19:42.460 What a waste of life.

00:19:45.120 And I remember that every single day.

00:19:47.080 I think about that.

00:19:48.780 Life is short and we're worried about dumb shit.

00:19:55.700 Like, what do people, what would people think of me?

00:19:57.420 I don't give a damn what people think of me because life is short.

00:20:01.920 Live your life.

00:20:02.660 Anyways, I I'm dragging on at this point, but a lot of you guys listening have been in these

00:20:08.380 situations to some degree or another.

00:20:11.440 Take it with you.

00:20:12.460 Like, use it as fuel.

00:20:14.820 It's painful to remember those things, to see a young man who just got to Iraq, who probably

00:20:19.540 wanted to serve his country, who probably wanted to make his family proud, who believed in the

00:20:24.480 American dream and he died for it.

00:20:27.680 And, and, and many of you listening have know what that's like to some degree.

00:20:32.880 Use it.

00:20:33.580 It's painful, but that pain can actually serve you to go on and do something great.

00:20:38.380 That kid doesn't get to live his life.

00:20:40.140 It was cut short.

00:20:42.760 He doesn't get to do all the things that he wanted to do, but you do for whatever reason,

00:20:47.780 luck, fortune, fate, the gods are smiling upon you.

00:20:51.560 I don't know what it is, but for whatever reason, you're still here.

00:20:54.720 So make the most of it.

00:20:57.360 That's what I would say.

00:20:58.020 Make the most of it.

00:20:59.120 Play for keeps.

00:21:01.200 Get after your life is short.

00:21:03.960 Yeah.

00:21:04.400 And I think there's two sides of that, right?

00:21:06.360 Like I, you know, you think about that, that kid, you know, did, did mom and dad send that

00:21:13.260 letter that, that they thought they should have sent and didn't, right?

00:21:18.560 Did they, did they say goodbye in a way that they were complete in their relationship with

00:21:23.460 him?

00:21:23.740 You know, like, you know, our lives may be cut short, but those that we care about, those

00:21:28.660 within our care, their lives might be cut short, right?

00:21:31.920 We may send our kids off to school today, you know, and one of my daughters could die 1.00

00:21:36.940 today.

00:21:37.600 Right.

00:21:38.000 Like, how did I say goodbye to him this morning?

00:21:42.500 You know, I, I, you know, like you said, I mean, being, being present to that, I think

00:21:48.680 is powerful.

00:21:49.280 And I, and I think that's one of the, you know, one of the stoic kind of strategies around,

00:21:55.220 you know, momentum ori, right.

00:21:57.300 Negative visualization is like, Hey, get present to this.

00:22:01.080 So then that way we can show up in a way that's, that's empowering to those that we love

00:22:05.000 and make sure we take advantage of the time that we have with them.

00:22:08.000 Yeah.

00:22:08.220 And you know what I think most people do is we do a wonderful job sedating ourselves.

00:22:12.480 You know, I don't want to feel pain.

00:22:13.640 I don't want to feel sorrow.

00:22:14.720 I don't want to feel bad.

00:22:15.660 I don't want to feel lost.

00:22:16.620 And so we sedate ourselves with weird kind of mindsets that society has adopted for us

00:22:21.740 or, uh, drugs, alcohol, other things that completely shut our brains off.

00:22:27.060 Entertainment.

00:22:27.640 Great example.

00:22:29.100 Yeah.

00:22:29.820 Feel it like feel, live life, embrace it.

00:22:34.240 If you're in pain, whether it's because you have a loss.

00:22:38.000 A loss of a loved one or a family member, or because, uh, your wife left you, or you just

00:22:46.760 lost your job or you're dealing with a medical condition, feel it.

00:22:51.060 Go back and listen to Tim Kennedy's podcast.

00:22:53.360 I did with him and he, he said, and Tim Kennedy is a different beast, but there's a lot of lessons

00:23:00.140 that's to put it mildly.

00:23:02.540 There's a lot of lessons that can be learned.

00:23:04.780 He was talking about getting done with his fight for, I think he was talking about Bisping

00:23:09.760 actually his fight with Bisping.

00:23:10.940 And, you know, he, he said, I hit that guy like 300 times or something like insane.

00:23:17.880 And his wife was like, can I get you an Advil or a Tylenol or a, you know, a fifth of vodka 0.93

00:23:24.240 or what?

00:23:24.740 Like, well, can I get you something?

00:23:26.100 And he's like, no, I just want to feel all of it.

00:23:29.040 I want to feel the pain.

00:23:30.960 I want to feel the frustration.

00:23:32.440 I want to feel the failure.

00:23:33.820 And he said, I remember him saying, he said, if I could bottle that, I would drink that

00:23:37.420 every day because of that pain is what drives me to do bigger and better things.

00:23:43.140 A very interesting perspective.

00:23:44.840 And most of us will run away from it.

00:23:47.080 I don't want to feel bad at all in any little context.

00:23:50.020 And so I'm going to do whatever I can not to feel it, not feel it, embrace it, live in

00:23:55.940 it, and it'll make you a better human being.

00:23:58.680 Yeah.

00:23:58.780 Well, and like you said, like we've live in even a society that will downplay it.

00:24:03.720 Oh, that's morbid.

00:24:05.220 That's morbid.

00:24:05.900 You shouldn't think about that.

00:24:07.040 Really?

00:24:07.780 You shouldn't think about the single thing that we all have in common, that we will die.

00:24:13.860 Right.

00:24:15.100 But yet we don't talk about it.

00:24:16.760 Why?

00:24:18.140 It's very part of the human condition, but we don't talk about it because it's morbid.

00:24:23.220 I don't know.

00:24:24.440 I don't think so, actually.

00:24:25.400 Our culture, when I say our, I'm talking about Western culture is very interesting around

00:24:29.200 death.

00:24:29.660 You know, we mourn and we, I remember when my grandmother died, I didn't know quite how to

00:24:36.840 handle it.

00:24:37.520 I was upset.

00:24:40.080 And so we went to the funeral and afterwards, everybody came, I believe it was my aunt's house

00:24:47.000 and everybody came to my aunt's house and I was young at the time.

00:24:49.260 And everybody was laughing and smiling and playing.

00:24:57.460 And I was like, that's weird.

00:24:59.240 Grandma just died.

00:25:00.740 I don't get this.

00:25:01.780 I don't understand what's, why is this funny?

00:25:05.300 Why are we laughing?

00:25:06.420 Aren't we supposed to be sorrowful?

00:25:07.740 And I came to the realization that it's because they were honoring her.

00:25:12.900 They were celebrating her.

00:25:14.720 You know, they're telling funny stories about grandma and laughing about how she made us

00:25:19.640 feel and all the good that she did.

00:25:22.140 And, you know, some of the things maybe she didn't do so well, but they were honoring her.

00:25:26.520 And, and that was a really cathartic moment for me where I realized, oh, okay.

00:25:33.280 So yeah, it's sorrowful because we have a loss, but also what about all this amazing good over

00:25:39.440 a period of, you know, 75, 80 years that this woman did.

00:25:42.940 And look, we're all here because of her.

00:25:45.820 That's why we're all here.

00:25:47.380 If without her, we wouldn't be here right now.

00:25:49.600 So the Western world has this very morbid, well, it is morbid, but it's very dark.

00:25:57.020 I mean, we wear dark colors, but it's this very dark view of death.

00:26:02.640 And I'm not saying that we shouldn't mourn death, but should we be more focused on celebrating

00:26:07.900 life?

00:26:08.440 And if we did, then how would we live our own lives as opposed to just focusing on our

00:26:13.660 morbidity, you know?

00:26:15.020 So whatever.

00:26:16.180 I don't know.

00:26:16.880 It's weird.

00:26:18.320 Yeah.

00:26:19.600 Connor Gregory on that lovely note of talking about death for the past 30 minutes.

00:26:24.900 Yeah.

00:26:25.500 And I, I'm like looking over the questions.

00:26:27.600 I'm like, I don't even know if any of these are a segue out of that.

00:26:32.380 Like we'll see what we can do off, but we'll see what we can do.

00:26:35.520 So Connor McGregory, I don't, you know, maybe this is, you know, maybe this is Connor McGregor

00:26:41.400 guys.

00:26:41.820 I don't know.

00:26:42.340 Maybe it is probably is.

00:26:44.500 I mean, he followed probably is probabilities pretty high.

00:26:47.160 Uh, Connor Gregory, if it's not too private, what are your kids homeschooled?

00:26:52.940 Why are your kids homeschooled?

00:26:54.420 And have they ever been in public schools?

00:26:56.920 What were there?

00:26:58.040 What were some of the determining factors?

00:26:59.820 My lady and I do not have children yet, but we are often discussing homeschool.

00:27:03.220 So I'm curious.

00:27:05.060 Yeah.

00:27:05.520 It's not too private at all.

00:27:06.440 I've talked openly about it.

00:27:07.640 My kids for, uh, up until two years ago were in public schooling and I actually felt really

00:27:14.500 good about it because the schools that they went to, I was, I, we were living in a small

00:27:18.480 town in Southern Utah.

00:27:19.320 Uh, uh, the elementary school that my two oldest were going to the principal of that school

00:27:25.420 and I served together in our church.

00:27:27.080 So I, I had a good relationship with him.

00:27:29.360 We were well-connected.

00:27:30.200 We were friends.

00:27:31.440 Uh, we had a lot of personal interaction.

00:27:33.960 Uh, I knew a lot of the school teachers personally.

00:27:36.900 I actually felt really good about the public school system.

00:27:39.640 And I do, as long as you know who they are, I still feel that way about teachers individually

00:27:45.640 for the most part, I don't like the system, but I do have a lot of respect for the individual

00:27:51.580 teachers.

00:27:52.080 And that's one thing I need to be very clear on because anytime I criticize the public

00:27:56.280 school system, people interpret that as criticizing teachers.

00:27:59.500 I'm not criticizing individual to some yes, but the ones that I know, no, I'm not criticizing

00:28:06.400 those teachers because I think they're doing what they can do.

00:28:09.580 They're doing the best they can in a system that would be almost impossible to do right

00:28:15.700 by our children.

00:28:17.340 So I use a program called the good and the beautiful is the homeschooling system that

00:28:21.860 we use.

00:28:22.440 I don't like the name, but I do like the curriculum.

00:28:25.240 I, I, cause life is not about being good and beautiful.

00:28:29.160 That's not what life is about for me.

00:28:31.740 Life to me is more about being capable and being valuable.

00:28:36.820 If it were called the capable and the valuable, I'd be all about it, but it's called the good

00:28:40.960 and the beautiful.

00:28:41.740 It is what it is.

00:28:42.540 I didn't come up with that name, but the curriculum is really good.

00:28:45.780 It's, it's a Christian centered curriculum when they give examples in their story problems

00:28:50.880 and things like that, or, uh, their literature is about stories from the Bible.

00:28:56.080 So it's, it's really good because it's a values based system.

00:29:00.520 Uh, we made this decision two years ago when we moved here to Maine that we were going to

00:29:03.800 homeschool our children because it represented a great opportunity to try something new.

00:29:07.880 We weren't familiar with the area.

00:29:09.300 We don't know people here.

00:29:10.540 I'm not just going to thrust my kids into an environment that I'm not familiar with.

00:29:13.860 Why would I do that?

00:29:15.280 Okay, here, let me ship you off to school.

00:29:17.120 I don't know those people.

00:29:19.120 I don't know what their thoughts are.

00:29:20.320 I don't know what they're thinking.

00:29:21.360 Why would I do that?

00:29:22.080 And yet many of us do, you know, like, oh, don't, don't question.

00:29:25.860 Don't, but school system, public education, I guess is just what, no, I need to find out

00:29:31.060 first because those are my children and I have a responsibility to my children more so than

00:29:37.100 probably any other person on this planet because I've voluntarily brought them into this world.

00:29:41.160 It's no surprise how we bring children into this world.

00:29:44.020 People seem to be surprised about how that works, which is a weird thing.

00:29:47.400 Save that for another question.

00:29:48.600 Yeah.

00:29:48.740 I don't, man, I don't know.

00:29:50.300 Like that's a, that's an issue, abortion and premarital sex. 0.79

00:29:54.220 And that's actually an issue that we probably should address very soon.

00:29:58.420 Anyways, so we decided to homeschool our children.

00:30:01.380 We asked around good and beautiful.

00:30:02.840 My wife took that upon herself.

00:30:04.860 And I'll tell you when I knew it was right.

00:30:07.200 Weird.

00:30:08.280 This is part of the main move, right?

00:30:10.400 So were you guys homeschooling before Maine or it's like, Hey, we're going to move to Maine.

00:30:13.660 And this is what we're going to switch things up on the school inside at the same time.

00:30:17.280 Well, we hit, we heard a lot of good things about the school system that we're just outside of.

00:30:25.400 We're just outside of the city limits for this particular school system.

00:30:30.300 And we wrote into the school board and we said, Hey, you know, here's the exception.

00:30:34.860 Here's why they approved one of our children to come to that school, but they didn't approve another.

00:30:41.740 I'm like, no, I'm not doing that.

00:30:42.840 If our kids are going to come, they're going to go, but are both going to go to the same school.

00:30:45.800 We're not playing this different school type thing.

00:30:48.840 So because one child was not approved for the school system, it had to do with school teachers

00:30:53.600 and numbers and all that kind of stuff.

00:30:55.520 We said, all right, you know what?

00:30:56.780 Let's just try homeschool.

00:30:58.140 Let's try it.

00:30:59.440 It wasn't something that we were very convicted about, but we thought, okay, let's, you know,

00:31:03.280 let's give it a try.

00:31:06.040 So we tried it and we really enjoyed it.

00:31:09.620 And here's the moment I knew it was right.

00:31:10.960 It was probably a week or two into our schooling and I walked into our classroom, which is one of

00:31:17.500 the rooms in our house.

00:31:18.400 It's just off the side of our house, but it is in our home.

00:31:21.400 And there was two clear big bulls and one of them, well, they both had what I would just say

00:31:28.140 were frogs that are, there was frogs in each of the bulls.

00:31:31.720 And I'm like, well, those are cool.

00:31:33.460 Or where'd you get those?

00:31:34.480 And like, oh, we went on a walk today and we found them.

00:31:37.260 And I said, oh, those are awesome frogs.

00:31:38.960 And one of my children, I can't remember who it was said, actually, dad, only one is a frog.

00:31:44.000 The other is a toad.

00:31:46.380 And I was like, okay, well, what's yeah, got it.

00:31:49.660 They're both frogs.

00:31:50.340 Like, no, there's a difference.

00:31:51.300 And here's the difference.

00:31:52.300 And they explained it to me.

00:31:53.300 And then those were those mascots for, you know, the week or whatever.

00:31:56.600 And then they let them go two or three days later.

00:31:59.380 That was the moment for me.

00:32:00.660 It was a very weird thing to think that that was the moment.

00:32:02.880 But I'm like, oh, God, they're, they're connecting things.

00:32:07.200 This is the value of homeschool.

00:32:09.760 And then a couple of months later, my wife had set up a trip down to Boston, which is

00:32:15.220 about three and a half hour drive from where we are with a homeschooling co-op.

00:32:21.580 And we went down there and we went to the museum and there was probably, I don't know, 30 kids,

00:32:26.840 30, 40 adults.

00:32:29.120 And we got on a train.

00:32:31.300 We rode the train down to Boston, spent a day there.

00:32:34.700 It was awesome.

00:32:35.320 Um, and I, I started seeing more of these kinds of activities where we go to the museum

00:32:44.060 as a family, they hang out with the right people.

00:32:46.040 They're, they're connecting, like you said, between learning and real world experience.

00:32:50.520 And then I started having my oldest son manage the store and that was part of his curriculum.

00:32:54.900 And then the other kids wanted to get involved.

00:32:57.380 And, uh, my wife and kids and my wife's mother went down to, or excuse me, her aunt went down

00:33:03.900 to Boston just a couple of weeks ago and they did the freedom trail.

00:33:07.140 But it was the kid's responsibility to put together the field trip on what things they should visit

00:33:11.980 on the, on the freedom trail.

00:33:13.620 And my two oldest boys were able to explain different parts of this trail and different

00:33:17.640 parts of history.

00:33:19.360 It's amazing.

00:33:20.600 If you can make it work, you need to make it work.

00:33:24.460 You just have to make it work.

00:33:26.080 I'm not going to outsource my children's education out to people who will do an inferior job.

00:33:34.840 And look, I have school teachers who are friends, bless their hearts.

00:33:39.840 They do as best they can, but they're, they're undermanned.

00:33:42.840 They have so many kids there.

00:33:46.020 They have to do the red tape.

00:33:47.980 They're doing the best they can.

00:33:50.260 They just can't do it as well as I can.

00:33:54.580 That's not a personal indictment against them.

00:33:57.460 They just can't because of the system in which they work.

00:34:00.840 And I will have people who will say things like, well, you know, they're trained, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:34:06.380 Trained in what?

00:34:08.300 How to manage 30 kids.

00:34:10.720 Like they're, they aren't, they don't have any more classes than I had out of high school.

00:34:15.800 They're trained in how to manage 30 kids or 40 kids or whatever it is.

00:34:20.020 And then how to work through the red tape that they have to work through.

00:34:23.000 That doesn't make them more qualified to teach children.

00:34:26.000 It means they know how to work in the system they're presented with.

00:34:29.360 They're not more trained to teach children.

00:34:33.100 Yeah.

00:34:33.540 And T and, and attempt to teach children, 30 children, the same exact way, regardless of the

00:34:40.120 difference of the children.

00:34:41.580 So my daughter is dyslexic and she's smart.

00:34:46.600 She's really intelligent.

00:34:48.320 And this isn't me as a dad saying she's smart.

00:34:50.520 This is like objectively, she's a smart, she's a smart girl.

00:34:54.620 Yeah.

00:34:55.020 In the school system with 25, 30, 35 other kids, she would be able to fake her way through 0.85

00:35:00.880 it.

00:35:02.440 Cause I'll, I'll read with her.

00:35:03.920 I'll, I'll pick up a book.

00:35:05.800 Here's the book I have on my desk.

00:35:07.000 This is probably not the book I'd be reading with her.

00:35:08.560 A hundred deadly skills.

00:35:09.260 Combat edition, this 100 deadly skills.

00:35:13.720 All right, honey.

00:35:15.300 But this is the book that's on my desk right now.

00:35:17.700 And I'll read with her.

00:35:19.020 And you know, at, at, uh, seven years old, almost seven, uh, the book she's reading have

00:35:25.680 pictures and she will memorize the book, the entire book.

00:35:29.960 She'll memorize it.

00:35:31.100 And so I'll sit down and I'll read without reading it really, you know, read this sentence.

00:35:35.280 And here's the sentence that I'm reading right now.

00:35:37.660 Command and control.

00:35:38.580 Once the attackers are incapacitated, fall back to a safe position and be the first to

00:35:42.820 report the incident to authorities.

00:35:45.920 So she'll read this sentence and I'm like, oh, cool.

00:35:49.060 She got it.

00:35:49.740 And then I'll look at her eyes.

00:35:51.560 She's not actually reading.

00:35:52.980 She's looking at the picture and she remembered what the sentence is based on the picture.

00:35:58.560 So in the public school system, she could, she could fake her way through it because there's

00:36:06.020 30 other kids that the teacher needs to deal with.

00:36:07.880 She's like, oh yeah, she memorized or she remembers.

00:36:09.820 She knows how to read.

00:36:10.340 Good.

00:36:10.500 Got it.

00:36:11.040 No, she needs the personal attention. 0.97

00:36:14.080 And so we bought a little extra curriculum that's outside of the good and the beautiful

00:36:18.520 that works specifically with dyslexic children.

00:36:21.280 My wife bought a couple of books off of Amazon that, that teach about dyslexia.

00:36:25.760 And we have the power.

00:36:29.520 We have the control.

00:36:31.060 We have the ability to teach our children, which is exactly where it should be.

00:36:35.240 So I can't really remember exactly what the question was, but that's the curriculum we

00:36:40.000 use.

00:36:40.920 That's the reason we do it.

00:36:42.460 And if you have the means to do it, do it.

00:36:44.720 If you don't have the means to do it, please work towards having the means to do it.

00:36:51.820 Get your wife at home. 1.00

00:36:53.280 This is not popular.

00:36:54.760 And I know, as I say this, people are going to be, well, not everybody's situation is

00:36:57.360 the same.

00:36:57.920 I'm telling you, man, the more that I see we as a society going down this degenerate

00:37:03.640 hole, men get, make yourself valuable to the point where your time is worth more.

00:37:12.100 You're making more money that you can get your wife at home. 0.99

00:37:16.220 So she can lead the house effectively.

00:37:20.220 She can turn the house into home. 0.99

00:37:21.600 She can teach the children.

00:37:23.500 She can work on her projects and be valuable the way that she wants to be valuable and finds

00:37:27.700 meaning and significance.

00:37:29.020 And if that's in the workforce, okay, I get it.

00:37:31.320 And that's cool.

00:37:32.200 But I think that there's so many women out there who would love to be at home, but can't 0.99

00:37:36.700 because of financial reasons.

00:37:38.140 And I'm telling you, man, if you can get yourself into a position where your wife can stay at 0.98

00:37:42.060 home and be the homemaker, there's value in that.

00:37:47.000 There's a sense of pride and satisfaction in her.

00:37:50.020 There's a sense of pride and satisfaction in you because you're able to make that possible.

00:37:56.020 I feel good that my wife doesn't have to go to work every day. 0.82

00:37:58.920 I feel good about that because we made that possible.

00:38:03.020 Yeah.

00:38:03.560 Now, as she said to me, and here's one of the things she said to me, I want to be a massage

00:38:07.280 therapist.

00:38:07.620 My wife, she wants to do massage therapy. 1.00

00:38:10.140 I love it.

00:38:10.940 I said, when do you want to do it?

00:38:11.980 She says, when the kids are out of the house.

00:38:14.320 Perfect answer.

00:38:15.620 I love that answer because that means your priority is straight. 0.79

00:38:18.820 You know, you want to raise the kids or at least when, you know, they're older and schooling

00:38:22.940 isn't so, uh, so, so, so, right, right.

00:38:27.900 And so maybe you have time to go to some night classes or whatever it is.

00:38:32.420 I think that's great.

00:38:33.380 I think you should do that.

00:38:34.280 But I'm very proud of the ability that we have to make it an option that she doesn't

00:38:43.100 have to go out into the workforce.

00:38:44.760 She gets to stay here.

00:38:45.900 And every time I talk about it, people bitch. 1.00

00:38:48.440 Oh, well, Ryan, oh, it's hard in society, this in society, that.

00:38:52.980 Yeah.

00:38:54.380 Yeah.

00:38:54.740 It is hard, but it's not impossible.

00:38:57.620 Millions of people do it.

00:38:59.940 Yeah.

00:39:00.300 So you could complain about it, not being fair, it being hard or this or that, or if

00:39:05.980 it's a goal of yours, and I think it's a worthy goal, stop bitching and moaning about how hard 0.99

00:39:10.920 it is and figure it out.

00:39:12.860 Yeah.

00:39:13.300 You know, sell some things, live within your means, get a raise, start a new business.

00:39:19.880 Hell, even have, maybe she wants to start a side business at home where she can be at 1.00

00:39:23.680 home, but she's, you know, maybe doing a couple of photography sessions each, each week.

00:39:28.200 And, you know, that four or five, six, $800 a month is, is helping, you know, pay the bills,

00:39:33.700 but she can be at home.

00:39:34.800 There's plenty of ways to do it.

00:39:36.500 But some of you are so wrapped up in why you can't do it and why society is wrong and out

00:39:42.040 to get you and the inflation, everything else that, that you just won't go do it, but you

00:39:48.320 want to do it.

00:39:49.460 So you can't have both.

00:39:50.960 You can't perpetually complain about it and how hard it is.

00:39:54.240 And then also be actively working towards the solution.

00:39:58.200 Pick one.

00:39:59.020 Are you going to work towards the solution or are you just going to bitch and moan and 1.00

00:40:02.120 tell everybody how the cards are stacked against you?

00:40:04.300 Those are the only two options.

00:40:06.780 All right.

00:40:07.040 Ned Sorenson.

00:40:08.120 How do I decide on a side income or what type of business to get into?

00:40:12.060 I really like my job as a coal mine electrician.

00:40:15.040 However, it's in the government crosshairs and I need to be prepared.

00:40:18.320 Also, I want the ability to be rewarded for my hard work, ambition, and genuine.

00:40:24.320 How do you know that word?

00:40:28.300 Creativity.

00:40:29.300 The only, the only comes.

00:40:30.320 You don't know the word creativity.

00:40:32.200 No, I made up.

00:40:33.040 I'm just giving you.

00:40:33.560 A different word.

00:40:37.720 So how does side hustle.

00:40:41.320 All right.

00:40:42.280 Here's what I would say.

00:40:43.080 Well, first and foremost, I commend you.

00:40:44.960 I mean, that's awesome.

00:40:46.160 Everybody should be doing this, by the way.

00:40:47.700 Any man listening to this, not starting a side business, I'm just saying that, but every

00:40:51.920 man listening should be contemplating what contingency plans he has in place.

00:40:58.020 Some of you guys are so comfortable.

00:41:00.500 Oh, I have this job and I've been working here for 20 years.

00:41:03.140 And you know, you think you're set.

00:41:04.960 You're not, you're not set at all.

00:41:07.560 I'll have a union job.

00:41:08.640 I'm set.

00:41:08.840 No, you're not.

00:41:09.760 You're no, there's no guarantee.

00:41:12.000 What's your backup?

00:41:12.760 What's your contingency?

00:41:13.680 Are you putting money aside?

00:41:14.700 If you, if you got laid off today, how much, how long could you live for?

00:41:19.560 You better have those plans in place.

00:41:21.860 So I want to clarify.

00:41:23.940 And this is, this is a guy that loves his job, right?

00:41:27.220 He's saying, Hey, this is a great job.

00:41:28.560 I love it.

00:41:29.220 And that's great.

00:41:30.100 Having this thought process.

00:41:31.340 Yeah.

00:41:31.780 Yeah.

00:41:32.800 So a couple of things I would say when it comes to a side business, number one, what

00:41:35.940 are you interested in?

00:41:36.740 You know, everybody's out chasing the money.

00:41:38.260 What, where can I make money?

00:41:39.300 How can I make money?

00:41:40.360 Dude, people make money doing the dumbest shit out there.

00:41:44.700 Like literally.

00:41:46.300 So I had a, I had a guy, uh, he was a friend of ours and a neighbor of ours when we were

00:41:50.080 in Utah and he would buy toys out of China and he would bring them back and he would

00:41:53.700 mark them up and sell them.

00:41:55.800 Yeah.

00:41:57.120 And he was making good money doing it.

00:41:59.180 And I don't, I don't blame him at all.

00:42:00.300 I don't fault him at all.

00:42:00.980 I didn't know how to get a China to get toys.

00:42:02.620 So he did it and brought toys.

00:42:04.100 And I bought a couple of drones and RC cars and things like that from him for our kids.

00:42:08.700 And it was awesome.

00:42:09.500 We had a good time with him.

00:42:10.220 There was value to us.

00:42:10.900 There was value to him.

00:42:12.820 He's like a middleman.

00:42:13.640 He wasn't creating anything.

00:42:15.200 He didn't build the toys.

00:42:16.600 Like all he did was, okay, who's the cheapest?

00:42:18.900 Okay, good.

00:42:19.320 Got it there.

00:42:19.820 Okay.

00:42:20.060 Bring it here.

00:42:20.640 Mark it up a little bit.

00:42:21.480 There you go.

00:42:23.240 You can make money doing anything.

00:42:27.660 So what I would say is what's interesting to you.

00:42:31.700 Here's some questions to ask yourself.

00:42:33.140 What are you doing when time goes the fastest?

00:42:37.120 Can that be a job?

00:42:38.060 For me, when I'm building the canoe, time's going really fast.

00:42:43.240 I guarantee you, I guarantee you that I could say, hey, guys, I'm going to build another canoe.

00:42:50.120 Who would be interested in buying one?

00:42:51.860 I guarantee you that somebody would buy that canoe from me.

00:42:55.980 I have no doubt about that whatsoever.

00:42:58.200 By the way, I'm not doing that.

00:42:59.800 I was going to say, after we see that, it doesn't sink.

00:43:02.520 No, it doesn't matter.

00:43:03.840 It doesn't matter.

00:43:04.700 I could do it right now without being tested.

00:43:08.820 No, I'm not probably right.

00:43:10.180 I am right.

00:43:11.100 I'm 100% right.

00:43:12.960 It's true.

00:43:13.760 It's true.

00:43:14.340 It's a beautiful looking canoe.

00:43:16.020 I could sell a canoe.

00:43:18.540 I could make one for two, three grand, something like that.

00:43:22.220 And I could sell it for six, seven grand.

00:43:23.860 I know I could.

00:43:26.080 I'm not interested in doing that, but I know I could.

00:43:28.980 So what are you doing when time goes the fastest?

00:43:31.120 That's number one.

00:43:31.640 What types of things are people turning to you for advice on?

00:43:39.200 Kip, if they're coming to you and saying, hey, you know, Kip, I know you're into jujitsu

00:43:42.880 and I've really been interested in starting jujitsu.

00:43:46.760 I just don't know where to get started.

00:43:49.100 Light bulbs should strike for you.

00:43:50.840 Ah, yeah.

00:43:51.920 People are asking me about jujitsu.

00:43:53.660 People are asking me about building a canoe.

00:43:55.960 People are asking me about playing the guitar.

00:43:57.960 People are asking me about painting or firearms training or how to get into hunting.

00:44:03.280 What are people asking you about?

00:44:05.620 That's a good indicator that you might be onto something.

00:44:08.880 Not the only, but a pretty good indicator that people would be willing to invest in that.

00:44:14.460 And number three, what would you do if money were not an issue?

00:44:19.020 You had no mortgage, you had no bills, you had enough money, you had enough income.

00:44:25.120 Everything was coming in.

00:44:26.320 You didn't have to worry.

00:44:27.000 You go on the vacations and the trips and do the things that you want, buy the vehicles

00:44:29.960 and toys and everything else that you want.

00:44:31.860 What would you do with your time?

00:44:33.300 Because you would do something.

00:44:35.380 Yeah.

00:44:35.940 Right?

00:44:36.180 You're not just going to sit there.

00:44:37.600 You'd probably sit there for a week and then you're like, okay, well, this is stupid.

00:44:40.300 If you're, if you're worth your weight and, and, you know, in, in being a man, you, you

00:44:45.400 would do something.

00:44:47.120 What is it?

00:44:48.460 Is it golf?

00:44:50.020 Is it fly fishing?

00:44:52.020 Is it playing a musical instrument?

00:44:54.180 Is it exploring the world and going on cool hikes?

00:44:57.480 Is it having conversations like that?

00:44:59.180 What, like, what is it?

00:45:00.100 What would you do?

00:45:01.460 Yeah.

00:45:02.320 And if you know what it is, then maybe that's what you ought to consider doing.

00:45:07.900 Just to clarify, sleeping and watching Netflix is not one of those options.

00:45:13.660 Actually, it is.

00:45:16.120 Actually, it is.

00:45:17.000 So let me tell you what I mean by that.

00:45:19.080 Okay.

00:45:20.080 People get paid millions of dollars to critique TV shows and movies.

00:45:25.840 Fair enough.

00:45:27.840 There's a guy, what's his name?

00:45:29.280 James Walker or Nestor or something.

00:45:31.180 I don't know what his name is.

00:45:32.260 He's a sleep guy.

00:45:33.200 Like he's a sleep expert.

00:45:34.380 And he wrote a book.

00:45:35.340 He's a New York Times bestselling author.

00:45:36.660 There are a bunch of people I have out on his podcast.

00:45:38.580 In fact, I think I have his book somewhere.

00:45:39.920 I haven't read it yet.

00:45:42.320 And he talks about sleep because he's studied sleep.

00:45:46.400 There's nothing that you could say to me, Kip, where you'd be like, well, you know, like,

00:45:50.280 what about this?

00:45:51.960 Everything.

00:45:54.720 Everything.

00:45:55.080 So let's not chase the dollar and let's figure out what you're excited about.

00:46:01.780 You know, you already have a great job.

00:46:03.380 You've got the income.

00:46:04.340 You're enjoying what you do.

00:46:06.000 What are some things that you can do on the side?

00:46:08.500 Photography.

00:46:09.800 Maybe there's a book that you can write.

00:46:11.620 You like, I mean, you're an electrician.

00:46:13.600 I believe he said I was.

00:46:14.780 So maybe, look, here's a silly idea.

00:46:17.140 Maybe you can create little in-home kits where homeschooled kids can buy from you and it teaches

00:46:24.960 them about electricity and how to wire an electrical light or how to build a radio or

00:46:30.940 whatever.

00:46:32.420 I don't know.

00:46:33.700 You know better than I do.

00:46:34.780 That's not a thing that I'm interested in, but you are.

00:46:37.000 So like you already have some expertise.

00:46:39.080 Build something.

00:46:40.320 Create something.

00:46:41.080 Offer some value.

00:46:42.500 It's there.

00:46:43.560 It is there.

00:46:44.260 You just have to ask those prompts and then be willing to get your ass in the game.

00:46:49.020 What I like, what you said, Ryan, is a little bit of like passion and curiosity, things that

00:46:54.240 interest you and, and a really great book on defining this stuff.

00:46:58.820 We, we covered it in iron council last month was the art of the impossible by Steven Kotler.

00:47:03.760 And he talks about, he calls it kind of like a motivation stack, you know, and, and if you

00:47:10.100 stack these things together, the probability of you seeing it through.

00:47:14.260 And actually like succeeding in that area is really high and curiosity and purpose is

00:47:20.720 one of them is if, if it's something that you're curious about, the interest you and

00:47:25.920 gives you fulfillment, the probability of you seeing that through and learning and becoming

00:47:31.140 an expert in it drastically increases.

00:47:34.820 A hundred percent.

00:47:36.020 I mean, I'm going to go back to what you said earlier about watching Netflix.

00:47:40.500 Yeah.

00:47:40.940 Cause it's really, it's cause you're like, Hey, I got to figure this out.

00:47:44.280 I'm like, I'm in, I'm doing this now.

00:47:47.080 I know you watch Netflix all the time.

00:47:49.240 All the time.

00:47:50.000 Yeah.

00:47:50.360 I did finish the last season available of a Cobra Kai, by the way, finally, you know,

00:47:56.700 it's good, right?

00:47:57.740 Super, it was pretty good.

00:47:58.920 It was pretty good.

00:47:59.660 Yeah.

00:48:00.400 I want to be Johnny when I grow up or not Johnny.

00:48:02.600 What's the, what's their guy's name?

00:48:03.860 Yeah.

00:48:04.040 You want to be Johnny.

00:48:05.140 No, I don't want to be Johnny.

00:48:06.620 You don't want to be Johnny.

00:48:07.560 Johnny's my favorite guy.

00:48:09.200 No, wait.

00:48:09.700 Johnny's the Cobra Kai.

00:48:11.040 Oh yeah.

00:48:11.500 Johnny.

00:48:11.920 Yeah.

00:48:12.100 I'm thinking Daniel.

00:48:12.980 Yeah.

00:48:13.200 No, I want to be Johnny.

00:48:14.080 You don't want to be Daniel.

00:48:14.920 Daniel.

00:48:15.140 Yeah.

00:48:15.360 I want to be Johnny.

00:48:16.320 That's right.

00:48:16.960 I actually always wanted to be Johnny.

00:48:18.680 When I first saw Karate Kid, that guy was a badass.

00:48:21.800 He was way cooler than Daniel's son from day one.

00:48:26.240 All right.

00:48:26.760 Let's go back to Netflix here for a minute.

00:48:29.920 Okay.

00:48:30.940 This is important.

00:48:32.540 I'm not just harping on it for the sake of harping.

00:48:34.700 This is very important.

00:48:36.780 If you're like a, like a, let's say you're a sci-fi guy and you just love sci-fi movies.

00:48:43.600 Okay.

00:48:44.000 There's a market for watching movies and then explaining all the intricacies and nuances

00:48:50.800 and little things that people miss.

00:48:53.560 And like, there's a market for that.

00:48:55.960 That's crazy to me that there there's people who have blogs and podcasts and YouTube channels.

00:49:03.300 And all they do is talk about star Wars, star Wars universe.

00:49:07.360 That's all they do.

00:49:09.060 Is that even their story where they're just explaining someone else's story.

00:49:13.680 Or they're, they're pontificating on alternate theories or little gaps.

00:49:18.980 Like, Whoa, what about this gap?

00:49:20.360 Maybe what it could be.

00:49:21.560 And they geek out on this shit.

00:49:23.480 Yeah.

00:49:24.280 That could be you.

00:49:25.720 What, what's, what's Ned, right?

00:49:27.580 Ned, that could be you, man.

00:49:29.200 Oh, that's stupid.

00:49:32.420 Well, the geek next door is doing exactly what you say is stupid.

00:49:38.780 It's there.

00:49:39.620 Just answer those three questions.

00:49:41.340 What, what, what are you doing when time moves the fastest?

00:49:45.960 What are people asking you advice for?

00:49:48.580 And what would you do if money were not an issue?

00:49:51.000 If you can find some commonalities between the three, you're in, it's going to take time.

00:49:58.300 It's not going to be easy.

00:49:58.840 I'm not saying that.

00:49:59.680 I'm just saying there's a path for you.

00:50:04.400 All right.

00:50:05.080 Artem Kulik, Ryan and Kip.

00:50:07.560 You guys have been actively training Brazilian jujitsu for some time.

00:50:11.340 Now.

00:50:11.620 How do you guys avoid getting cauliflower ear that I think that, so you have a little bit

00:50:18.900 Kip.

00:50:19.480 I don't, I don't actually have it and that might just be time, but it also might be genetic.

00:50:25.260 This is probably a better question for you.

00:50:27.100 Cause you've been in it longer than I have.

00:50:29.180 Uh, you don't avoid it.

00:50:31.680 You train.

00:50:33.220 I know guys that get cauliflower ear, even if they try to wear wrestling, um, uh, headgear.

00:50:39.700 Hmm.

00:50:40.540 So I think if, if guys are concerned, like sometimes if you have an ear blowing up, you

00:50:45.660 might put headgear on so you don't like agitate it more.

00:50:49.520 But other than that, no, I, I, what about draining it?

00:50:52.860 Do you drain your ear?

00:50:53.920 Oh, without a doubt.

00:50:55.060 Oh yeah.

00:50:55.720 I'll drain them.

00:50:57.060 You got to drain your ears.

00:50:58.540 Yeah.

00:50:58.740 Otherwise you'd just have this giant circle thing on the side of your head.

00:51:03.800 You just have a syringe that you.

00:51:05.900 Yeah.

00:51:06.460 Yeah.

00:51:06.840 Uh, diabetes, diabetic needles.

00:51:09.840 Are kind of the best ones.

00:51:11.780 And you've got to do it early because cauliflower ear, if I understand correctly, is the skin

00:51:16.680 separates from the cartilage and fluid fills that gap and you have to drain the fluid.

00:51:21.680 Is that right?

00:51:22.500 Correct.

00:51:22.980 And that fluid will turn rock hard.

00:51:25.960 Right.

00:51:26.440 So like don't drain it.

00:51:27.860 This part of my ear, I can, I can push as hard as it doesn't hurt.

00:51:32.280 Does it push in a bone?

00:51:33.540 No, not at all.

00:51:35.000 So it's just really rock hard.

00:51:37.080 Like a bone.

00:51:37.780 It's that, it's that dense.

00:51:39.080 Yeah.

00:51:39.220 Yeah.

00:51:39.440 It doesn't give, it doesn't do anything.

00:51:41.180 Like I'm going to play with your ears next time we get together. 0.77

00:51:43.680 Kip.

00:51:44.000 That's weird.

00:51:44.860 It's weird.

00:51:45.280 And you know, and the other thing I've learned is it's not, I used to think, oh, I get cauliflower

00:51:50.740 because guys are attacking me and it's them agitating my ears.

00:51:56.420 No, it's me using my head.

00:51:59.880 Yes.

00:52:00.440 On the mat.

00:52:01.120 So exactly.

00:52:02.200 So most of the time it's me using the side of my head to like, you know, to move their

00:52:07.540 head or I'm, I'm protecting.

00:52:09.740 So it's, it's me using my head against my opponent is what's generating most of my cauliflower

00:52:14.980 air.

00:52:15.320 And I'm not going to stop doing that.

00:52:17.560 It's highly effective.

00:52:18.360 So I just, you know, drain when you can and suck it up.

00:52:22.720 It's, I, I think it should just kind of a badge of honor to be honest.

00:52:26.180 So, but I also think there's gotta be, yeah, well, of course.

00:52:30.700 Yeah.

00:52:30.880 I mean, but there's gotta be some sort of genetic thing to it too.

00:52:36.740 Cause I mean, I take Pete Roberts, like he's been training for 20 plus years.

00:52:42.180 He doesn't have cauliflower here.

00:52:43.780 Yeah.

00:52:44.360 I think I, and I do know guys that, that train, you know, and use their heads a lot and they

00:52:49.660 don't get it.

00:52:50.140 So I do think there's some genetics to it.

00:52:51.800 I do think that jujitsu style probably lends itself to a lot, like how, how do I pass, right?

00:53:01.360 How do I pass the guard?

00:53:02.580 How do I maintain control?

00:53:04.380 That's going to vary how much I'm using the side of my head than someone else that, that

00:53:09.340 their game's slightly different.

00:53:10.700 If they play off their back a lot, for instance, they may not use the side of their heads a lot.

00:53:15.040 I love the passing game, you know, and I'm constantly using my head to like against legs

00:53:21.940 and those heads and stuff.

00:53:23.840 So I don't know.

00:53:25.460 Yeah.

00:53:25.520 I've also heard Pete say, I mean, I just haven't been in the game long enough to probably deal

00:53:28.780 with it too much.

00:53:29.860 And maybe it's a bit of genetics or maybe it's like my game, you know, it's like you

00:53:33.020 said.

00:53:33.200 Yeah.

00:53:33.340 I think it's coming.

00:53:34.280 I didn't get cauliflower ear until, um, I was a blue and purple.

00:53:38.740 That's when it started showing up a lot.

00:53:40.940 Yeah.

00:53:41.100 Um, I also think, well, so one of the things that Pete Roberts also, he's, he's obviously

00:53:47.480 my instructor friend too, but he, uh, he, he, and he's flat out come out and said, he's

00:53:53.180 like, yeah, it's guys that don't protect their heads.

00:53:56.300 Yeah.

00:53:56.760 Which is actually what you're saying.

00:53:58.060 It's like, you're not protecting it.

00:53:59.340 You're using it, you know?

00:54:00.760 So yeah, I'm using my, like, I realized cause it's not, I don't get, I, I, I protect my neck

00:54:06.960 quite a bit and I actually don't think it's guys giving it to me.

00:54:10.060 I'm giving myself cauliflower by using my head.

00:54:13.900 So I, so I trained with, so my buddy Brody Cousineau, I've talked about him on the podcast

00:54:18.320 before.

00:54:18.720 And, and so I trained with him and he actually is, has a propensity to get it.

00:54:22.400 I think more so even than I do.

00:54:24.560 And he was using headgear for a while, which is really difficult in jujitsu to use headgear.

00:54:30.220 Uh, and so he drains his ears and I remember, I, I think I need him in the ear one, one time

00:54:37.080 at training and he's like, Oh, I got to stop.

00:54:39.800 And he could like immediately feel it just like swelled up.

00:54:43.840 Yeah.

00:54:44.760 Yeah.

00:54:45.000 Yeah.

00:54:45.360 Sometimes.

00:54:45.840 And you could feel it coming on too.

00:54:48.000 Like my ears will be super sensitive.

00:54:50.200 And, and I know if I get banged or I'd rub it too much, it's going to, it's going to start

00:54:56.640 filling up.

00:54:57.440 Yeah.

00:54:58.340 Yeah.

00:54:58.740 So you can kind of feel it coming.

00:54:59.940 In fact, I have a funny story.

00:55:01.020 I was, I was competing in, I flew to Japan actually to complete in a jujitsu tournament

00:55:07.580 in Tokyo.

00:55:08.200 And, um, and while we're training, my ear blew up pretty bad.

00:55:15.840 And it was a couple of days before the tournament.

00:55:18.240 And we were in, uh, Bangkok the week before, uh, being in Tokyo.

00:55:24.420 And I'm trying to figure out, like, I need to drain my ear.

00:55:27.420 Right.

00:55:27.900 Imagine a tourist running around Bangkok to pharmacists trying to ask for a syringe.

00:55:36.120 A syringe, a needle.

00:55:37.300 Oh yeah.

00:55:38.200 I could, no one was giving me a syringe.

00:55:40.220 I think you told me the story.

00:55:41.160 Did you find one?

00:55:41.700 I'm like, I need a syringe.

00:55:42.160 And they're like, get out of here.

00:55:43.120 They're like all yelling at me.

00:55:44.040 You druggy?

00:55:44.920 Yeah, exactly.

00:55:46.500 And, and eventually I had to like, no, no, no, please, please.

00:55:49.760 And I, I was like showing, you know, eventually someone's like, oh, oh, okay.

00:55:54.020 And then they got me a, then they got me a dirty syringe from the, from the alley

00:55:58.540 to drain my ear in.

00:56:00.800 Who knows?

00:56:02.040 So you have hepatitis, but you don't have as big a cauliflower ear.

00:56:05.100 Got it.

00:56:06.000 Totally.

00:56:06.960 Totally.

00:56:07.820 Oh, I think it's, you know, you've said this in the past too, Kip.

00:56:11.520 And, and this isn't just a jujitsu lesson, but this is a life lesson.

00:56:15.120 It's the price.

00:56:17.240 Yeah.

00:56:18.140 It's the price, you know?

00:56:20.180 And so you have some jacked up years.

00:56:23.200 Are you, I'm saying you should protect, I'm not saying be flipping about it, but so protect

00:56:27.800 your ears and stuff, protect your body.

00:56:29.200 Of course, just like you would your joints and elbows and everything else, protect yourself.

00:56:32.280 But also there's a price and are you willing to pay it?

00:56:36.800 And if no, then, okay, well, at least you're being truthful with yourself, but there is

00:56:40.160 a cost to jujitsu or anything else.

00:56:42.880 My cost at this moment in time is that I've got lagging pain every day.

00:56:49.160 My elbow hurts.

00:56:50.080 That's the price for me.

00:56:51.740 That's not to say I don't ice it.

00:56:53.320 I don't take care of it.

00:56:54.440 I don't try to have it recover and heal.

00:56:56.400 Of course I do that.

00:56:57.580 Try to mitigate it a little bit.

00:56:59.600 Yes.

00:57:00.040 And I think being realistic about the price, right?

00:57:03.460 So you're not like, you know, just be realistic that, Hey, you know what, is it still worth

00:57:08.980 it for me?

00:57:09.440 Is, am I willing to pay that price?

00:57:10.960 And yeah, I am.

00:57:12.000 So it's going to continue on.

00:57:13.940 Shoulder mobility is another one of mine.

00:57:15.740 Like my shoulders just right at the point, you know, where the shoulder connects to the,

00:57:20.400 I don't know, trap or whatever right there.

00:57:22.460 Yeah.

00:57:22.860 That that's a lagging, that's a lagging.

00:57:25.220 So pull-ups have become increasingly more difficult.

00:57:27.960 Is that a price I'm willing to pay?

00:57:29.320 Yep.

00:57:30.040 It is.

00:57:30.620 Yep.

00:57:31.380 It is.

00:57:32.460 It's crazy how that is.

00:57:33.940 Here we are all.

00:57:35.220 I'm the price to be broken.

00:57:37.280 Yeah.

00:57:37.480 I'm going to keep doing it.

00:57:38.300 I'm fine.

00:57:38.720 Yep.

00:57:39.100 Yep.

00:57:39.740 Oh, that hurts, but not bad enough.

00:57:41.960 I'm going to keep going.

00:57:43.900 But that's life though, man.

00:57:45.500 Like people think, and, and, and this goes back to the, I think it was, well, what's the

00:57:50.180 guy's name before?

00:57:51.080 Was it Ned?

00:57:52.360 Ned.

00:57:53.180 Ned.

00:57:53.600 About the electrician.

00:57:54.520 Yeah.

00:57:54.740 Yeah.

00:57:55.780 Bro, there's a price, man.

00:57:57.320 And, and the price is that you're going to have to work nights and weekends and sometimes

00:58:02.780 mornings, and you're going to be struggling and you're going to be trying to build this

00:58:06.580 thing over here while you've got a full-time career over here.

00:58:09.060 So either you're going to do it or you're not, and there's a price.

00:58:13.460 So you're going to pay it or no, but don't lie to yourself.

00:58:17.840 You know, don't say it's all.

00:58:19.200 Here's what a lot of people think.

00:58:20.520 If it's the right thing to do, or even worse, I think this is even worse is to say, if it's

00:58:25.580 God's will, then everything will be fine.

00:58:28.760 No, man.

00:58:29.520 It'll work itself out.

00:58:31.140 Look, from, from a biblical perspective, Jesus Christ came down here and suffered more than

00:58:37.760 you can ever imagine.

00:58:40.320 And that was God's will.

00:58:42.780 And he suffered more than any human being could ever imagine.

00:58:48.040 And he had to make that choice to do so.

00:58:50.940 That's what I'm saying.

00:58:51.880 You know?

00:58:52.600 So if you think it's always going to be roses and fairy tales and sunshine, you're going to

00:58:57.940 throw in the towel pretty quick when you get kicked in the proverbial nuts and think,

00:59:02.120 oh, I guess it's not God's will.

00:59:03.560 No, it just means you got kicked in the nuts and you need to get a little tougher or put

00:59:07.360 a cup on next time so you can keep going.

00:59:10.080 Yeah.

00:59:10.360 And to add to that, like, even, you know, if you think about repentance, that requires

00:59:14.520 action and making it right, which is like a contrite heart and a broken spirit.

00:59:21.340 Like that requires you to do something that just doesn't take care of itself.

00:59:25.540 Right.

00:59:26.300 Right.

00:59:27.120 Exactly.

00:59:27.940 He requires take one more and then I think we should wrap this thing up for today.

00:59:30.960 All right.

00:59:31.420 Kevin, not on to not.

00:59:34.560 What is your opinion on starting a side business in a market that is flooded?

00:59:38.640 And I think this is a good, good add on to to Ned's question earlier.

00:59:42.720 I'm starting to give a license to carry classes out there, but a lot of these places give this

00:59:47.400 class.

00:59:47.840 My reason for doing this is because it's a passion of mine and I also really enjoy teaching

00:59:52.700 people how to protect their families.

00:59:54.400 How would you market yourself to stand out among the others?

00:59:58.880 So you answered the question about dealing with a flooded market, be better than everybody

01:00:04.180 else because there's always a number one.

01:00:06.240 Yeah.

01:00:07.420 There's always a number one and the number one isn't concerned about the flooding of the

01:00:12.240 market.

01:00:13.100 So you have to do things different.

01:00:15.620 You have to communicate different.

01:00:17.360 You have to talk different.

01:00:18.660 You have to add different value.

01:00:21.180 You have to make it entertaining.

01:00:22.500 I'll tell you one thing about the firearms community from the outsider.

01:00:25.200 I already have an idea.

01:00:26.220 Yeah.

01:00:26.480 Well, maybe, but here's, it's boring as shit.

01:00:30.820 Yeah.

01:00:31.480 And, and here's, here's the problem firearms instructors have.

01:00:34.360 If you're a firearm instructor, please listen to me.

01:00:36.380 Okay.

01:00:36.640 I don't know your industry as well as you do, but please listen to me when I say this,

01:00:40.980 you aren't as good or special as you think you are.

01:00:43.860 So I'll talk to a firearms instructor and they'll say, you know, like, Oh, I can't teach

01:00:50.020 this stuff in three hours.

01:00:51.220 It takes three days.

01:00:52.460 Mother effort. 0.99

01:00:53.220 You better find a way to do it in three hours because nobody has three days and your shit

01:00:59.620 isn't as important or special as you think it is.

01:01:02.340 Figure out a way, figure out a way.

01:01:04.200 Don't just tell me that it takes three days.

01:01:06.720 Oh, well, like, and you hear these guys with these inflated egos, like, Oh, well, I'm trying

01:01:12.100 to shorten 40 hours of training into 40 minutes.

01:01:15.920 Screw off, man.

01:01:17.760 Learn how to do it.

01:01:19.600 Teach us like the most important things in 40 minutes.

01:01:23.040 Don't tell me how special you are.

01:01:25.680 Nobody has 40 hours, but they do have 40 minutes.

01:01:29.280 And if you complain about, well, I can't, I can't teach this in the, then that's your

01:01:33.040 fault, not mine.

01:01:35.440 I mean, we've had, look, we've had firearms instructors, Navy SEALs, world-class firearms

01:01:40.120 instructors come to our course and they're like, I don't know if I can do it.

01:01:42.700 I'm like, well, you're either going to find a way or we're going to find somebody else.

01:01:46.180 And guess what they do?

01:01:47.440 They find a way.

01:01:48.480 And then here's what they do.

01:01:50.960 They yap for hours.

01:01:56.040 Stop talking.

01:01:56.880 Let's go shoot.

01:01:58.400 Yeah.

01:01:58.820 Get to the point.

01:01:59.940 Yeah.

01:02:00.180 I went to, um, I went to, uh, Sorenex is winter strong and Pat McNamara was there.

01:02:06.020 Everybody knows Pat McNamara.

01:02:07.360 I'm sure.

01:02:08.740 And he, I, I was doing some other things, but I knew he was, he was on the pistols range

01:02:13.160 and he was kind of teaching some pistol marksmanship.

01:02:16.060 And I was like, oh, I gotta go see, I gotta go train with Pat.

01:02:18.980 Like if I get an opportunity to train with Pat, I'm going to go do that.

01:02:20.940 So I go down to the pistol range and, uh, we're shooting, uh, 22 pistol, 22 pistols, just

01:02:27.460 doing some marksmanship stuff.

01:02:30.700 And, uh, I get up there and he's, and I'm like, okay, like, you know, here's my stance.

01:02:34.460 What do I do?

01:02:34.900 Like, he's like, no, it looks good.

01:02:35.980 Just shoot.

01:02:37.360 I'm like, this is weird.

01:02:38.800 Like, just shoot.

01:02:39.440 He's like, yeah, yeah, like, you're not going to kill me.

01:02:41.500 Like, I mean, it's not awesome for him, but you're not going to kill me.

01:02:43.880 So just shoot.

01:02:45.700 So, so I shoot and he's like, okay, you know, that looked pretty good.

01:02:50.120 Here's two things you can adjust.

01:02:51.640 Shoot some more.

01:02:52.800 And I adjusted those things shot.

01:02:54.220 And he's like, better back of the line.

01:02:57.940 Yep.

01:02:58.260 And then somebody else went and did the same thing.

01:03:00.960 It wasn't like a seven hour safety briefing.

01:03:04.840 Yeah.

01:03:05.240 It was like, just, yeah, you're not.

01:03:06.800 And I remember vividly.

01:03:07.760 He's like, yeah, like we can tighten this up.

01:03:10.200 You're not going to kill me.

01:03:11.100 So why don't you just go ahead and shoot?

01:03:12.320 That's the attitude.

01:03:13.780 Like, I'm not going to kill anybody right now, which is good.

01:03:16.580 I'm not trying to kill anybody.

01:03:17.760 I don't need to give you all this other crap.

01:03:19.660 Let's give you one to two primary points to work on.

01:03:23.200 That's a good, that's enough for you to work on.

01:03:25.280 Yeah.

01:03:25.740 So what does somebody who wants to go shoot want to do?

01:03:29.660 Kip, I'll ask you.

01:03:31.320 Exactly.

01:03:32.800 And yet firearms instructors spend half the time running their mouths about how wonderful they

01:03:37.260 are, all the cool experience or when they were in special ops or whatever else and how

01:03:41.160 great they are.

01:03:41.980 I don't give a shit.

01:03:43.600 I don't care.

01:03:44.780 I just want to shoot that gun at that target and hear the metal go, pling, pling, pling,

01:03:49.200 pling.

01:03:49.480 That's all I want to hear.

01:03:51.040 And I want to get better at it.

01:03:52.980 Yeah.

01:03:53.820 Yeah.

01:03:54.060 And so many people are so full of themselves that they can't get over themselves enough

01:03:58.880 to be able to put together a course where all you do is go shoot.

01:04:02.620 Hey, look, here's the four firearm safety rules.

01:04:05.000 Do it or you're out.

01:04:06.080 If you mess up, you get one warning.

01:04:08.000 If you do it again, you're out of here.

01:04:09.660 Other than that, let's go shoot some, some firearms.

01:04:14.420 Yeah.

01:04:14.820 I guess the point I'm making here is that there is a huge window for you in this arena

01:04:24.140 because everybody else come and you might too.

01:04:27.480 Everybody else comes from a military background, comes from a special forces background.

01:04:31.540 And guess who they learned from the same dude who was doing 40 hours of safety briefings

01:04:37.100 before they could even put their hands on a gun.

01:04:39.180 And nobody wants that.

01:04:41.060 Do it safely.

01:04:41.820 Do it effectively.

01:04:42.800 Get led down range.

01:04:44.380 Let people have some fun.

01:04:45.940 Let them experience critique and work real world scenarios.

01:04:50.180 Talk about this stuff on social media.

01:04:52.400 That's a big deal.

01:04:53.400 You're not utilizing social media.

01:04:54.900 Make sure you are.

01:04:55.720 There's a big, big opportunity here for you to do it right.

01:04:59.680 And look at the success criteria, right?

01:05:05.000 Like what is this person really looking for?

01:05:08.620 If I take a concealed carry class, am I really taking the class for just concealed carry?

01:05:16.160 No.

01:05:17.040 I'm taking the class because I'm interested in what?

01:05:19.860 Self-defense.

01:05:20.800 I'm interested in having a weapon on me for a reason.

01:05:25.580 There's another why behind this concealed carry.

01:05:28.720 What's the other why, right?

01:05:31.200 You, there are all these guys teach hypotheticals.

01:05:34.160 Some of them don't even let you touch a gun, right?

01:05:37.160 Then how does this look like in my house, right?

01:05:41.000 Like, you know what, Kevin, here's your idea.

01:05:43.480 You offer a class where you come into my house and you help me set up a strategy.

01:05:49.360 If there is a break-in, where do we go?

01:05:53.360 Where does my wife go? 1.00

01:05:54.820 How do we, how do we protect ourselves?

01:05:57.160 What's our exit strategy?

01:05:58.800 You want to, that's the value.

01:06:00.280 Like, to be honest with you, the concealed carry class, that's worthless as shit.

01:06:04.040 You come to my house and help me set up the proper plan to protect me and my family.

01:06:08.600 Now we're talking.

01:06:10.360 I agree.

01:06:11.320 I would offer one variant to that because in a concealed course, sometimes there's requirements.

01:06:17.520 It's, that's the only, yeah, yeah, fair enough.

01:06:20.120 And so what I would say is operate within the requirements that are, because there is

01:06:24.420 so much classroom time that's needed, but, but maybe there's some things where you can

01:06:28.540 do two to three hours of instruction and you can act then to go shoot.

01:06:32.780 And then another couple hours instruction and then go shoot.

01:06:35.120 Or maybe there's an hour of instruction and then you bring a bunch of different pistols and

01:06:40.280 components and you actually let them get their hands on the gun and, and you let them feel

01:06:45.380 it and you critique them, you know, so you get your required stuff in, but you also make

01:06:52.060 it fun because people are looking to be entertained guys.

01:06:55.760 Yeah.

01:06:56.880 Informed.

01:06:57.620 Sure.

01:06:57.980 Yeah.

01:06:58.500 But those people who think, well, my job is just to inform you're delusional, man.

01:07:02.980 Like if somebody comes to a class and you spend eight hours or two or three days yapping at

01:07:10.460 them and never let them experience it, they're never coming back.

01:07:14.940 Yeah.

01:07:15.080 And people don't learn that way.

01:07:16.800 No, it's not fun.

01:07:18.140 It's not enjoyable.

01:07:19.800 People don't learn that way.

01:07:21.000 You don't learn science being taught to.

01:07:27.240 Anyways, I think, I think you get it.

01:07:30.220 Don't be like the rest of them was my, my solution.

01:07:34.160 And, and we call it a minimal via or, or, or unique, what do they call it?

01:07:38.520 Selling proposition, unique selling proposition.

01:07:40.760 What makes you unique?

01:07:42.420 Figure that out.

01:07:43.480 Right.

01:07:44.360 Yeah.

01:07:45.320 Cool.

01:07:45.860 Well, we got through like four questions today.

01:07:48.140 So it was good.

01:07:49.420 Hey, it was good.

01:07:50.120 Maybe five.

01:07:51.160 It was, it was, I felt like I got on my soapbox a little bit, but some of this stuff

01:07:55.100 is important guys.

01:07:56.060 And I'm, and I'm, and I'm passionate about it.

01:07:58.160 You know, like that goes back to, I think it was Ned's question about finding things that you're

01:08:02.420 interested in.

01:08:02.880 And I'm passionate about this.

01:08:04.060 And so this is, this is actually what I would do.

01:08:07.220 If money was not an issue, this is what I would do.

01:08:09.740 These are the conversations I would have.

01:08:11.440 These are the people I would talk with.

01:08:12.800 These are the questions I would ask, or excuse me, answer and ask.

01:08:16.380 So that's why I'm excited about it.

01:08:19.780 Anyways, let's wrap it up.

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01:08:41.560 And really what that looks like.

01:08:43.360 I love this analogy.

01:08:44.760 I think so much of our lives.

01:08:47.260 We're the spectator.

01:08:48.780 We're, we're at the basketball game and we're sitting in the stands watching life.

01:08:53.340 Iron council is you getting out of the stands and actually playing the game.

01:08:56.820 Yes, sir.

01:08:57.640 So join us on the court.

01:08:59.340 Cool.

01:09:00.240 Yeah, guys, make sure you do that.

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01:09:11.900 Uh, obviously the last 12 months have been very interesting to say the least.

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01:09:27.120 or, uh, the power of being out in Texas or a pandemic and having to live off of food

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Life is Short, The Cost of Following Dreams, and Why Homeschool is Better ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

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