In this episode of the Ask Me Anything podcast, we have special guest and long time friend of the show, Sean McElroy on the show. We discuss the stock market and what it means to be a man of action.
00:03:18.460And, you know, you look at the, I think it's, they pronounce it the Nikkei Index in Japan, took its biggest hit since Black Monday in 1986.
00:03:27.560Its largest single day hit, it was like 12.5% or something.
00:04:53.020And that was kind of my take on this and in helping ease people's minds.
00:04:57.520If your habits are good and you're doing the right things with dollar-cost averaging and diversification,
00:05:04.240I mean, if all of your eggs are in one basket and sitting in one place right now, you'd be losing your mind.
00:05:09.480If you just have a couple holdings and you've kind of sunk everything into it, and, I mean, it could be scary.
00:05:15.800Or if you're trying to time it necessarily, but if you just, I mean, I'd look at everything, all of my holdings and all the stuff that I have and all the things I do.
00:05:26.220I mean, we have a lot of hedges against a lot of downturn.
00:05:30.080But even in the stuff that's volatile, we have stuff going into it every month, and it's consistent.
00:05:35.880And while it's down, we're going to be buying up a lot more shares, and eventually it's going to come up and we'll be fine.
00:05:53.100And because I started 25 years ago, this is the fourth time.
00:05:57.960Well, I shouldn't say the fourth time yet, but it looks like it's going to be.
00:06:00.680It looks like we're going to enter into another recessionary period, and so this will be the fourth one I've been through in 25 years.
00:06:09.380And honestly, when these times come, I just keep getting wealthier.
00:06:14.840But it's by not – it's having good habits, staying the course, not getting too emotionally wrapped up and trying to time everything with what's happening around us right now.
00:06:27.100And if you have those fundamentals, you can be okay.
00:06:32.720And oddly enough, I attach it to the book Atomic Habits, where financially most people have such bad habits and they do so many of the wrong things that they haven't cut out,
00:06:46.700that it's just a matter of getting rid of those things that don't serve you and replacing them with the things that benefit you.
00:06:59.280I mean, it's just – if you don't mind me just spreading it outside of what you just said and making it a little bit more transcendent to other areas of our lives, I think it's really similar to our health.
00:07:11.680There's a big difference between being overweight, out of shape, bad habits around what I eat, and then finding out you have cancer.
00:07:24.540Like you're already on a projection that's going to make it way worse, sugars amplifying the spread, all these other things, because you didn't have your shit together.
00:07:35.240Yeah, and if it's not cancer, it's going to be something.
00:07:41.880But if you had some good habits and prepped and you were taking care of your body and eating healthy and then that showed up, your chances of weathering that storm is way higher if your house is in order.
00:08:16.780If you have to deal with a teenager that you haven't had to deal with yet, are you ready for that?
00:08:22.980Do you have your own emotional house in order that you can now be in a position to deal with difficulty in life?
00:08:29.840Are you in a position to deal with a death of a loved one because you have your – you have strong mental fortitude and you have things worked out in your own mind?
00:10:25.760I believe if I understand correctly, and I don't even know all the names, but like the opposing candidate is like got kidnapped at one point.
00:10:35.700I don't know if he's missing, but not good, right?
00:13:00.540So I don't take responsibility for things.
00:13:02.920And I'll give over my sovereignty, my power over to other individuals for the sake of not taking on the full mantle of ownership of my life.
00:15:36.880So for me, that's the word that stuck out in what you said is that even if their intention is good, they know deep down they don't have the capacity to save you.
00:15:46.320And so you get pandered to by people, even if they have good intention, it's just it's not viable.
00:15:52.760And so we're being pandered to and somehow we get fooled over and over and over again, expecting that we're going to be saved when the people that are telling us they can save us don't even have the capacity to it.
00:16:06.940And most of the time they know it regardless of their intention.
00:16:10.440So I'm not going to go full tinfoil hat like there's some conspiracy in there against you and they know they can't save you or help you.
00:16:17.080But it's it's all pandering. And so if we understand that, then we also understand that there's something we need to do and not keep waiting for Superman to show up and save us.
00:16:30.480Totally. And I like what you just wrapped up. That's that's the ultimate sign.
00:16:34.660If you're listening to us, you're like, well, that's maybe not me or maybe it is or I don't know, maybe you're too ignorant to even consider or be self-aware enough to actually consider this.
00:16:44.480But but the phrase I always use is if there's any area of your life where you are waiting and hoping you are being a victim.
00:16:54.040Well, you're waiting and hoping that someone else is going to do something and you're not taking action.
00:16:59.640So use that as maybe a flag. What area am I waiting and hoping? Am I waiting for my marriage to be great?
00:17:07.120I'm hoping my wife will do something before I do something. Then then then you're not making it happen.
00:17:12.060You're not saying, hey, this is important. I'm going to find a way and driving it forward.
00:17:16.920You're not owning it. And so I would look for areas where you're blaming others.
00:17:21.520Right. Or you're waiting and hoping for a solution. What are you going to say, Sean?
00:17:25.240Well, I was going to say in the case of Venezuela, there's another like I have a really good friend who's from Venezuela and he's told me for, you know, a couple of decades.
00:17:34.500The issues that they have there and their government and everything else and how much he just loves being an American citizen and and not being there anymore.
00:17:44.080But obviously, he has family there and extended family and his wife's family is there and and, you know, all of all of this, which is hard for him to manage.
00:17:55.680But one of the things that he told me a while ago is about 10 years ago and is not to try and connect this to gun and gun issues and things like that.
00:18:04.680But that's what happened about 10 years ago is they they banned the ability to get new firearm licenses in Venezuela.
00:18:13.280And about six years ago, they had a giant confiscation where I think they confiscated something like 15,000 firearms in Venezuela.
00:18:22.560And so now here we are with these this tampered, quote unquote, election.
00:18:27.420And you were talking about riots and things like that.
00:18:30.300And, you know, but they're rioting with what?
00:18:52.480I'm glad you brought this up because I felt this tension already with that Kamala now being the running person, which, by the way, no one voted for.
00:19:00.360And and now she's running and they're thinking like, wow, she might have a chance at winning where literally a couple of weeks ago when Trump was shot, they said, well, it's wrapped up zero chance now for the Democrats.
00:19:14.660And now people are saying maybe there's a chance.
00:19:17.340And so in a week, it can go from zero chance to maybe a chance.
00:19:21.740It feels like they're already kind of manipulating this thing.
00:19:24.780And so what if what if there's a manipulation?
00:19:27.560What if it doesn't go the way that our country, the majority of our country wants?
00:19:40.500And so we're talking about getting our house in order when we were talking about the stock market, I think.
00:19:45.740And not to try and be fear mongering or anything like that, because that's not what I'm trying to do.
00:19:50.140I think it's just important that we pay attention and that we start just making sure that fundamentally we're sound in different areas of our lives so that if these things do happen, we don't have to get caught up in a sense that, you know, now maybe our family is at risk in any capacity.
00:20:10.740If we're just not ready for maybe the worst happening is what I'm saying.
00:20:40.740Well, I watched the video or I was told that's not knowing that's not knowing at all that that's you regurgitating what you've heard.
00:20:48.300So in this space of like beat beat critically think there's not enough critical thinking happening and people regurgitate knowledge as their own.
00:20:58.320And so they'll read a headline and like, oh, that's true.
00:21:57.900And the boxer in the Olympics is a good example of this, man.
00:22:00.780Like, I fell, I fell exactly into what I'm exactly talking about right now is I saw a headline of, I think the headline was boxer with XY chromosome or boxer who failed gender test at world championship beats woman in Olympics.
00:23:40.780I mean, it does become a doping issue as well.
00:23:43.500And it's like, okay, if they need that to function normally, they need testosterone as a woman.
00:23:49.520But then how do you justify that and say, well, it's okay for her to take testosterone, but it's not okay for any other athlete to do it because, you know, they can't be on steroids.
00:24:26.060But, you know, just like in anything competitive, there is and always will be somebody trying to fudge the system, someone trying to get around it, someone coming up with their story or backstory,
00:24:39.920or whatever it is, to give them an edge or an advantage.
00:24:45.340And honestly, I don't think any of us could know their intention or what it is or whatever.
00:24:52.500And, you know, but the media did what it does and got people against each other.
00:25:03.580And, again, I think we just, at the end of the day, how does this affect me?
00:25:26.580Let's get into some questions from our brothers in the Iron Council.
00:25:29.380All right, Jimmy Hellwood, navigating a partner with an explosive temper, explosive temper.
00:25:39.060I saw this one and immediately, and I don't want to sound like I'm picking on him, but my immediate thought was that didn't just come out of nowhere.
00:25:53.960That explosive temper did not just show up.
00:25:57.300So if that's your partner that you've chosen, you knew that.
00:26:02.000And maybe that was exciting to you when you started the relationship.
00:26:05.020Maybe that fire, that spiciness was something that you liked and that was attractive and that turned you on a little bit.
00:26:16.660And now, as you're deeper into the relationship, you're realizing, you know, there's, with that fire, things get burned.
00:26:27.660And you're starting to feel that burn a little bit more than you did in the beginning when it was exciting.
00:26:32.940And so, for me, I just think, at the beginning of this relationship, at the beginning of this partnership, did you assess if that was a deal breaker, if that was okay, or if it wasn't?
00:26:50.720And did you navigate how you were going to show up if that was something that you were going to accept as part of their personality?
00:27:00.020Or did you think you could change that?
00:27:01.880And I think most likely it's the latter, but again, without enough information to understand it, that's just where I tend to head, is that this is not a new thing.
00:27:13.700And how long has it been a thing and what have been your conversations to either help them deal better with those stresses, with those reactions, and or what are you doing to deal better with it when it happens?
00:27:36.340Yeah, that's what I was leaning towards is, you know, how's this, one thing's for sure, you're not going to be able to deal with anything difficult, kind of goes, it's kind of starting to become the theme of this call, right?
00:27:53.220So, you're not going to be able to deal with an explosive temper if you're reactionary to it, if you're flying off the cuff and you're angry about it.
00:28:03.180Because now you're operating from a place of emotion and not logic either.
00:28:08.200So, make sure, one, that you're in a position where you're like, oh, okay, yeah, I get it.
00:33:16.920They start accepting these things that they're being told that are false.
00:33:22.600But they're just accepting that, okay, well, I guess why continue to try to be better if it doesn't matter anyways?
00:33:30.500And so my advice would be don't accept any of that crap.
00:33:34.220If there's something that you want to try or do or push towards, hey, get on the train that's going to at least get you in the vicinity.
00:33:45.180Start reading good books, listening to podcasts, surrounding yourself with people that have those things, that do those things, changing your environment, cutting out negatives.
00:33:57.000I mean, there's just the list goes on and on and on.
00:33:59.240But all of it's connected to growth mindset.
00:34:19.540The advice I would get, and it's not advice.
00:34:22.840It's really just an ask, is just get present to your impact.
00:34:27.440I mean, the reality of it is a lot of the difficulties and struggles we experience, that your kids will experience, that your family will experience, you can make a difference.
00:35:51.300If you had to only do one cycle of chemo and it reduced your chances of relapse by 3% to 10% in two years versus a 20% to 50% with just monitoring with a 40% chance of cardiovascular disease.
00:36:09.620Or change to a radically healthy diet and lifestyle change without side effects and monitor the cancer could potentially come back, but not necessarily.
00:36:20.980If relapse occurs, more cycles of chemo would have to be administered.
00:36:27.320I believe in God and I want to test my faith, but I also want to discern wisdom.
00:36:32.360And he has another part of the question, but I'll let you answer that part first.
00:36:35.920I had a couple thoughts and I saw this one too.
00:36:38.700And so the first thing that I don't understand, not have ever being in the military and understanding how that works with the VA when you have certain issues and how it affects your pension down the road.
00:36:54.900If you do or don't take recommendations for your health and continuing to get your benefits.
00:37:01.720I don't know if it affects that in any way.
00:37:04.200I think a lot of your action that you take should consider that in your decision.
00:37:16.280And then with that, I think it's not as straightforward as which one sounds better.
00:37:25.720I think you need to have a conversation with your wife, if you have kids even.
00:37:32.040I mean, there's so many more questions that I would have in helping you navigate this.
00:37:40.140But now in line with that, if I'm just looking at the chemo or monitoring or lifestyle change, it sounds like it's kind of stage one because you have these different options.
00:37:55.500Personally, I would go with more of a holistic approach and go with the lifestyle change, the extra work.
00:38:07.400It's, you know, some people would probably say chemo and lifestyle change.
00:38:11.780That's actually my tendency is to be like, bang it all out.
00:38:15.420Lifestyle change, chemo, just attack it.
00:38:25.500In the meantime, researching some different holistic options that may help subside it.
00:38:31.680And, and then go from there, having dealt with this with my mom and, you know, she went through, I went through that with her and, and we weighed the options and then ultimately left it up to here.
00:38:45.280And so what I'll finish with, and this probably isn't any help to him, but what I will say is at the end of the day, he has to make the decision and he has to accept that for himself and for the people in his life as his decision.
00:39:05.760So don't, earlier we were talking about looking for someone to save you and looking for someone to give you that advice, whatever it is.
00:39:13.160Maybe you're looking for your wife to tell you what she wants you to do.
00:39:18.000And a lot of times people do that because then they say, well, if it doesn't work, then I have somebody to blame.
00:39:24.020Just know at the end of the day, make this your decision for your sake and for everyone else around you, because if it doesn't work, it's, you don't want any of them to have the thought of, man, I should have, I should have pushed him more.
00:39:41.020I should have, you know, been a little louder and all of that.
00:39:44.180And so just make sure that it's clear that after it's all said and done, the decision is yours and everyone that's affected by that decision has to accept that, including yourself.
00:40:00.980You know, and this is tough when it becomes, it's really easy to have that opinion sometimes until you're faced with these kind of hard decisions.
00:41:19.420It could affect your organs, all these other things.
00:41:22.900And here's the part that really like resonated with me.
00:41:26.960We were talking about, I brought it up to the doctor and he was great.
00:41:30.820Like he gave us all the raw numbers for us to consider for ourselves.
00:41:34.380You could tell what his opinion was in this example.
00:41:39.300I said, so we asked him, we're like, hey, how about dietary adjustments?
00:41:44.980Like what we're doing on a day-to-day that would reduce our chances and of it coming back and everything else.
00:41:52.860And his response was, well, you know, I mean, you don't want to like disrupt your life and not have ice cream and sugar and stuff.
00:42:02.940Like you want to live a good life to like, he thought literally talking to my wife and I, that us eliminating sugar from our diets would be a stupid idea almost.
00:42:18.000And it would just be too much to ask of anybody.
00:43:46.960And so that's where we're leaning is more in that area.
00:43:51.140But I think most importantly, anything, obviously don't rely on Sean and I, in regards to how you handle your cancer, you know, we're, we're not experts.
00:43:58.940But, but I think it goes back to the believing in yourself, what's best for your body versus what's easy getting second opinions and then you owning it.
00:44:13.300I think what you said, Sean, I think is spot on don't outsource this to anybody else.
00:44:18.840If you don't feel good about it, then don't do it.
00:44:21.780Like follow your, you come to the conclusion, don't outsource it to your wife or your doctor or anyone else.
00:44:29.100By the way, interesting note, when Asia went to the dermatologist, when she was bothered about an area on her back, guess what the dermatologist said about the spot that ended up having melanoma?
00:45:25.180I mean, it's, it's, we've all heard the story of the guy in the flood.
00:45:28.800God sends him a rowboat, a tugboat, a helicopter, you know, and the guy ends up drowning in his house because he's waiting for God to save him.
00:45:42.060And then he gets to the pearly gates and he's like, God, why didn't you save me?
00:45:45.080And he's like, I sent you a rowboat, a tugboat, and a helicopter.
00:45:47.520Um, you know, like you have the resources around you to do research, um, again, to trust your gut, to have those conversations, um, and simultaneously pray, pray for the, that spirit to help guide you in those decisions.
00:46:03.520And when you feel it in your gut, it's whatever's going to feel right.
00:46:07.840I don't think regardless, whatever your decision is that you could ever be 100% certain in that decision, but you will know what feels better and go with that and trust it.
00:46:29.180How did navigate watching your father's body fall apart and deal with not being able to do what he loves, yard work, gardening, and et cetera?
00:46:51.300Her favorite thing to do is go out and be with people and to laugh and to, you know, and, but she, she literally looked like those zombie movies when they shoot a zombie in the face and like half the face is, you know, like rotting flesh, like ripped off.
00:47:35.680And so the next best thing I could do is really whatever I could do to help support her and make her feel a little bit better.
00:47:44.760Um, but I couldn't make the cancer go away.
00:47:49.240I couldn't make that difficulty go away.
00:47:52.840All I could be was around a little bit more to try and make her laugh, but at least make her happier.
00:48:01.020Her knowing she was loved and being supported and that we were doing what we could, but honestly, that's their own battle to fight.
00:48:14.100And all you can do is, is, and have those conversations.
00:48:18.020I would ask her, Hey, do you want me around a little bit more?
00:48:21.480Do you want me, you know, I, I, I ended up putting her in a beach house just because we had the capacity to be able to do that.
00:48:28.400And so the, her favorite place to be on the planet was this specific strip of beach in California near where we lived and grew up.
00:48:38.660And, and I got her into a couple of different beach houses on that strip, you know, for it paid for all of it for almost a year.
00:48:47.880And, um, and she loved that, you know, cause if she was going to be miserable, at least she could watch the sunsets in the most beautiful place in her opinion on the planet.
00:48:59.980And so that helped a little bit, you know, and, and at the end of the day, I can feel good about that.
00:49:07.340And then visiting her as much as I could and being around and supporting her and taking her to all of her things she had to be at at the hospital and through her treatments and, and all of that.
00:49:20.360So I think, you know, that combined with having all the conversations now, if you're watching his body deteriorate, I don't know what that means.
00:49:29.560I don't know if it's just physical, if it's mental, but, um, be willing to have the uncomfortable conversations.
00:49:37.380Now, if there's things to get off your chest, things you've always wanted to tell him and never did just do it now before, cause it's only going to get harder.
00:50:01.540So, yeah, don't, don't, don't, don't wait and hope like we were saying earlier, you know, one thing that comes to mind here on this question, um, for, for Bobby is what does your father want?
00:50:16.580Like if I'm going to go through hardship, the number one thing I'd want is for my kids to learn from it for them to be better off because of it.
00:50:55.980It might be long drawn out, like our exits all look different.
00:51:02.900And so I would ask you, Bobby, what can you learn from this experience and how do you become a better man or having to deal with it?
00:51:12.080And that's how you make sure that your dad's struggle here is not being wasted.
00:51:17.340There's a lot that you could really get present to, and this could be highly, in my opinion, could be highly transformative to you as an individual by helping your dad navigate this part of his life.
00:52:56.840And now, as far as those conversations, they get a little heavier and more heated in an election time because of what the media does and, you know, the commercials you're going to see and all of the stuff that gets people riled up.
00:53:12.060But don't leave those conversations to just now.
00:53:17.180So be willing to, for the next three years, three and a half years after the election, to continue having those conversations.
00:53:26.740But then also, how are you showing up in your community?
00:53:29.980How are you showing up in your family?
00:53:32.420How are you showing up in your environment that you're in, in your workplace?
00:53:37.140Whatever it is, wherever these conversations are being had.
00:53:39.740And back to what we were talking about earlier, if I was to give any one singular advice to someone, it's to keep growing.
00:53:47.420And if you're that guy, and if you're committed to growth and helping others and serving and being the best version of yourself, people are going to take notice of that.
00:53:59.140And so if you are somebody that they respect and that they look up to and that they see as putting in the work and not just talking.
00:54:08.580And I think that's the challenge, is too many people just talk about these things.
00:54:13.540But if you're out there actually doing it, being better, serving people, serving the community, serving the people within your environment.
00:54:23.240You're, you're, you're being a good father, a good husband, a good, you know, brother, sister, coworker, whatever it is.
00:54:32.880And then when you do speak to whatever it is, it just, it holds a little more validity with the people that you're around.
00:54:42.440And so I think that's more important than the conversations themselves, is how we're showing up in our environment so that when we have the conversations, it doesn't become just an argument.
00:54:54.640People actually have a little more respect, maybe a little more empathy, maybe a little more willing to listen because of who you are.
00:55:03.560Yeah, are you in a position of influence and running your mouth is not influence, just noise.
00:55:15.640I'm challenging a thought, my own thought, actually, as I read this, because he wrote, I believing in keeping to the silent majority is how we gotten so far off our values is the silent majority.
00:55:27.240I actually wonder if that's true, actually, now that I think about it, because this implies that the change in our value system as a country is just a result of people speaking out and not speaking out.
00:55:42.520And I actually wonder that that's not really what transforms my value system is popularity, what's most common, or was it how I was raised, right?
00:55:58.280And so I wonder if we've gotten off our values, per se, if we want to use that term, by how we were raised this past generation.
00:56:07.900And it's more around the generations and their homes and how people were raised.
00:56:15.100And we're now seeing the result of it than it is really, oh, well, there's less Facebook posts around this.
00:56:21.040And that's why the silent majority, you know what I mean, is losing out because they don't post on social media as much around and speak out about.
00:56:29.340It's like, well, is that really, that's called popularity.
00:56:32.160I don't know if that's rooted in our value system.
00:56:34.340I think our values is, is in the home.
00:56:36.480And, and I think that, I don't know if I agree, actually, I used to, but I'm just now challenging my thought around this, that, that still, I think the greatest opportunity here is not to be louder.
00:56:49.280It's just to make sure that our homes are in order and that we're raising kids that have a growth mindset.
00:56:54.540That we're raising kids that critically think that our influence in our neighborhoods is from a position of influence and positiveness.
00:57:02.680And, and, and that's really what we're, that's really where the change is.
00:57:07.860It's not people speaking out or against, I think that's just, I don't know, that, that seems a lot like just tumbleweeds, blowing tumbleweeds around.
00:57:20.320If, if, if we're really focused on how our silence or how loud we are about something, I don't know.
00:57:32.880It's, it's, I've heard the quote a bunch of times.
00:57:37.340I don't know where it comes from, but, um, I can't hear a word you're saying because what you do speak so loudly.
00:57:44.740Again, I think that's the most important part of everything we're, we're talking about is, you know, just, just show up, be somebody that if you're somebody of influence that demands respect because of how you serve the people around you, that's going to carry into all your conversations, regardless of the topic.
00:58:11.400Okay. Well, and it's, and it goes back something that Jordan Peterson, or at least I've snagged from him is like the importance of like getting your own house in order.
00:58:20.980Because the reality of it is, is most of us will, will navigate this election season, getting fired up.
00:58:27.340Oh, I'm going to, man, I'm, I'm fired up for my candidate and, and I'm going to do something about it.
00:58:32.680Meanwhile, my relationship with my kids sucks.
00:58:35.820My relationship with my wife is mediocre.
00:59:48.460And the lesson for you is, is in the gym still, is in getting your health in order still, is in resolving your relationship with your parents still.
00:59:59.840And, and to be frank, those are the higher priorities in the grand scheme of things.
01:00:04.460Those, that, that, that, those areas of our lives are the areas of the greatest impact.
01:00:44.020We, we can pass this other question on moving forward.
01:00:47.440So Peter Morrison, let's talk about legacy.
01:00:51.320When attempting something very difficult with regard to legacy, what are your top three priorities to address?
01:00:58.600Um, well, how first one is, is what I'm doing now affecting that legacy?
01:01:11.420And then the next question is how, is it positive or negative?
01:01:17.020And then, I mean, the first question before those two is what do I want in the first place?
01:01:25.660So, I mean, if I were going to pick a top three, it's knowing what you want, what you want that to look like, the actions necessary to get there.
01:01:33.940And then every day, am I moving the needle closer to that destination or further from it?
01:01:42.660And that comes back to the growth mindset we were talking about and accountability in those things.
01:01:49.320And too many people are just drifting in their life and hoping that the current is going to take them to their destination.
01:02:00.040So we have to be more intuitive and we have to be more, um, uh, I'm losing the word intentional.
01:02:16.140Oh my gosh, just be intentional and where you want to go and the rest will line up with that because if you know it, you understand it and you're speaking it on a daily basis.
01:02:35.320That's why the battle planner is so important that one of my favorite books, thinking grow rich is writing down what you want, reading it out loud a couple of times a day, um, speaking what you're going, what sacrifices you're going to make, what you're going to give in return.
01:02:51.580And, um, you know, and then the rest will then, then you just need time.
01:03:00.280And over time, as long as you're getting better, that 1% better every day, it doesn't even have to be 1%.
01:03:08.360It could be 0.01%, which as long as it's a little better every day, you look back at the end of your life and know you built something substantial, something you could be proud of, something that continued to grow, to expand, to make impact.
01:03:32.740And so I'm projecting on everybody listening is I believe in the eighth day of the week called someday.
01:03:40.300And I think in the iron council, we, we, we do this sometimes.
01:03:44.560And, and by the way, to learn about the iron council, go to order of man.com slash iron council, but we get new guys in the iron council and they will write these visions and in the, in the spirit of legacy.