Order of Man - July 28, 2021


Making Simple (But Not Easy) Choices, Addressing Red Flags Early and Often, and Overcoming Distraction Once and For All | ASK ME ANYTHING


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1 hour and 2 minutes

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190.65552

Word Count

11,948

Sentence Count

909

Misogynist Sentences

13

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

In this episode, Ryan and I talk about his experience at the Knocker Total Archery Challenge in Park City, Utah. We talk about the tournament and some of the crazy things he did to get there. We also talk a little bit about golf and some other things that go on in our lives.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart
00:00:04.980 your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time. Every time.
00:00:10.420 You are not easily deterred or defeated. Rugged. Resilient. Strong. This is your life. This is who
00:00:17.160 you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done,
00:00:22.720 you can call yourself a man. Hey, what's up, man? Great to see you. Again,
00:00:27.040 I think this is the second week in a row where I've got back in the morning and then have to
00:00:32.040 record a podcast. I don't want to say it like that. I have the opportunity to record a podcast
00:00:37.100 an hour, hour and a half later. But I will say one of the nice things, we've got a chiropractor
00:00:42.760 who makes house calls. And so we had it scheduled so that he would come this morning. So I got home,
00:00:49.620 had a little chiropractic session, and here we are podcasting.
00:00:52.520 Oh, I thought we were going to do the session right now during the chiropractic session.
00:00:58.520 No, bro. I fall asleep. I fall asleep during the chiropractic session. So I would be useless at
00:01:03.760 that point. That's funny. Yeah, man. Cool, cool. And you just got back from what's the event called?
00:01:11.140 Knocker. Total Archery Challenge. Pack. That's right. Pack. Yeah. So just kind of imagine golf
00:01:19.280 for archers. It's a little bit of golf. They take you up the course, which is usually in the
00:01:24.240 mountains. So this time it was in Park City and they take you up on the lifts and whatnot.
00:01:27.460 And then you just walk down and work your way down through 20, 25 targets varying from
00:01:32.820 30 yards away up to I think 110 maybe was the furthest one. And then you try to hit foam.
00:01:40.240 So it was a good time. And you get to hang out with cool people, which is always nice.
00:01:43.700 And for the people that are really bored, you just hopped on like a downhill mountain bike and just try
00:01:47.760 to bomb down the mountain without getting hit by an arrow just for that. We had some mountain
00:01:51.640 bikers that were kind of coming through, but they had a marked off pretty well. But then there was
00:01:56.080 some other people that were riding horseback through through the course. It's like you might
00:02:00.200 not want to be doing this today. Somebody sees a big antlerless elk and shoots a horse in the ass
00:02:07.040 would be just just a wonderful way for the weekend to go. I'm sure. Yeah, that's funny. Cool. How did
00:02:12.920 you do? How did you what did you golf? I usually score usually most people, most amateurs, I would
00:02:20.320 say anyways, they judge their performance based on how many arrows they lost is usually how it goes.
00:02:26.240 I see. Yeah. Yeah. Like balls that you've lost in golfing. Yeah. So I think I lost I think I lost
00:02:33.300 two arrows. I lost one arrow, one arrow just broke and shattered. And another one, I lot the knock
00:02:39.740 popped off and hit the dirt and the knock popped off. So, you know, I did, I did three different
00:02:44.920 courses. So to say I lost two arrows, I feel pretty good with that. That's not bad. Yeah, not bad.
00:02:50.100 Yeah. When I golf, I don't end up with the same ball. I think I usually lose about maybe 10 in a
00:02:55.720 nine hole. The way that I do it in golf, I measure whether I'm above or below par is based on how many
00:03:02.320 I lose versus how many I find. So if I lose five, but I find four, I'm one over par. Yeah. So if you're
00:03:09.420 distracted mid golf and you're in the pond trying to find balls, you're trying to, you're trying to
00:03:14.120 win. I'm trying to fix my score a little bit. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's well, good, man.
00:03:19.700 Well, we got, I posted, uh, or, or asked for some questions on the, uh, the gram and, uh, we got some
00:03:27.420 good questions and some other questions. So we'll, uh, we'll answer the good ones. And, uh, if you would
00:03:34.540 guys make sure speaking of Instagram, that you're following tagging, sharing tagging is a little
00:03:38.260 difficult hit or miss because they're, I was going to say shadow banning. It's not shadow
00:03:42.200 banning. They're outright just going right at us after the jugular here. So, uh, you can check it
00:03:47.920 out there, Facebook, Twitter, all at Ryan Mickler. I'm on getter, which is a new thing. I'm at Ryan
00:03:54.520 Mickler, YouTube at order of man. Like let's diversify where you guys are connected with me because it's
00:04:00.740 very easy, um, as evidence over the past month or so, uh, that one of these could be shut down for any
00:04:06.140 arbitrary reason. And that's what's happening. So just make sure you're following me on all the
00:04:09.360 platforms and, uh, we've got the content there.
00:04:12.540 Copy. And we'll do our best. We're, we're kind of ad hoc grabbing these questions. So hopefully if I,
00:04:17.920 if I grab, we're not going to, we're not going to grab one of the bad, we're going to do the best.
00:04:22.220 Okay. If I grab a bad one, we'll just call a guy out and say bad question next.
00:04:27.380 I'm, I'm perfectly okay with that.
00:04:29.720 All right. That's so funny. All right. Are you ready?
00:04:32.920 Yep.
00:04:33.180 So let's do it. All right. Gringo.
00:04:36.000 Oh, he was one of the bad ones.
00:04:37.700 Okay. Next.
00:04:38.580 I'm just, I don't even know this question.
00:04:41.320 Actually, it wasn't much of a question. So it's, it's more of a kind of an all over all around.
00:04:46.600 So we'll see if it's a talking point for you. So a Gringo.
00:04:50.180 No, it's not a question. Is it the vax anti-vax current event? All that. That's not even a question.
00:04:54.900 Any take on it?
00:04:56.020 No, I mean, again, we talk about all the time, the quality of your life will be determined by the
00:05:01.220 quality of questions you ask. You ask, well, this wasn't even a question. Uh, and it's amazing
00:05:06.020 to, to how many people can't follow simple instructions. That's, what's amazing to me.
00:05:10.520 It's like, I realize you want the perspective, but like ask a question and then we can give you
00:05:15.800 a very specific answer. Uh, but this applies not just to what we're doing here. I'm trying to tell
00:05:20.660 you this because this applies to the rest of your life. It's so much more important than what we're
00:05:24.940 doing on this podcast. If you go into, uh, uh, in an interview, for example, you might want to come
00:05:30.380 out with some very poignant questions that you can ask the person who's interviewing you. If you're
00:05:34.920 going on a date or, uh, you want to learn more about somebody, or you're hosting a podcast, get
00:05:39.220 better at asking questions. Anything else is taking out. It's either a little bit of ignorance. And I
00:05:44.900 don't say that with any ill intent. It's just a little ignorance, uh, or it's lazy. So we can fix both
00:05:51.060 of those. Yeah. And, and one, this question, I'm kind of like, you know, maybe they're new people,
00:05:57.420 right? Maybe they've jumped onto the order of man. And that's where the ignorance, that's where the
00:06:01.440 ignorance. And again, I don't say that with ill intent. I'm saying it that. So, so this is the
00:06:06.020 learning opportunity, ask great questions and you'll get better answers that you're looking for.
00:06:10.960 Yeah. All right. David Osburnson, do you think it's a duty for us men to train our minds and bodies to
00:06:18.100 protect the people we hold dear to us? I don't think so. I don't think you should train your body.
00:06:24.400 I don't think you should train your mind. I think you should just be fat and lazy and
00:06:30.100 satisfied with who you are comfortable with who you are. Body positive movement. Um, don't let
00:06:36.940 anybody tell you that you're not good enough. That's what I do. And it seems to work out pretty
00:06:41.880 well for me. Yes, of course. Brian Mitchler. Of course. Train your butt. You have, you have a
00:06:47.960 moral obligation or responsibility to train your body and your mind. Uh, and if you're not going
00:06:52.640 to do it, just be prepared for results less than you're capable of. You want great results,
00:06:57.380 then you've got to be deliberate. You've got to be intentional. You've got to train for it
00:07:01.200 and, uh, you got to make it happen. So I would say the answer to that is most definitely. Yes,
00:07:07.460 of course. Yeah. All right. Five X back straight out on these questions, bro. I know. I know.
00:07:15.240 All right. Come on now. Give me a good one. All right. I'm a police officer who works 12 hour
00:07:20.460 shifts, seven out of 14 days. Maybe it's not me selecting the questions. Maybe just all these
00:07:26.800 questions suck. No, it's you. Cause I saw some of the questions and I thought there's some good
00:07:32.220 questions in here. Okay. Well, I'm having a hard time finding them. All right. This guy works seven
00:07:37.880 out of 14 days. Yeah. Works 12 hour shifts out of 14, 12 shifts, seven out of 14 days. So I've
00:07:45.360 started training jujitsu three days a week and I train and I try to run three to five miles three
00:07:50.280 days a week. I also have to take care of the house and yard. You've talked a lot about family time,
00:07:56.200 uh, or finding time for fitness and career goals. How do you make sure you're investing enough time in
00:08:01.940 family? Is there a minimum number of hours in a week there? I mean, look, there's not a minimum
00:08:07.300 number of hours. So what you're falling into the trap of is this work-life nonsense, this work-life
00:08:12.380 balance nonsense, right? Where, where people assume that means equal distribution of priorities
00:08:18.200 and responsibilities and obligations and tasks and things like that. And it isn't like that,
00:08:22.700 you know, especially when you're working 12 hour shifts for seven days in a row or whatever. I
00:08:27.020 didn't quite catch how that worked, but it's going to be more difficult, obviously for you to put in any
00:08:32.080 real workout or spend time with your wife and kids when you're doing that. But that's
00:08:37.100 what the job requires. So the way that you do it is not by measuring the hours that you're putting
00:08:44.640 in, but you measure the results that you're achieving. If you feel distance from your wife,
00:08:49.620 it's probably time that you consider putting in some more effort and making that a larger priority
00:08:55.380 than something else. If you feel that your fitness is getting out of whack, then you need to start
00:09:00.000 prioritizing that. And that's not to say that you completely abandon one priority or one responsibility.
00:09:06.300 So you can go all in on the other. There is a little bit of balance there, but the distribution
00:09:10.740 of your resources, time, energy, attention, et cetera, are going to be determined based on the
00:09:15.600 results that you're experiencing. If I'm struggling financially, well, I've got to get my ass to work
00:09:22.420 and make sure that I make ends meet, or I may not need to pick up a second job to pay the debts off
00:09:27.620 or make sure that the bills are paid, the roof over the head. If I've, I've been so busy with work
00:09:32.780 because personally I've been traveling so much, well, you know, it's, it's, it's important for
00:09:37.480 me to take some time off, maybe even from jujitsu or maybe even from extra work opportunities or
00:09:44.340 another trip I could take and spend time with the family. So really evaluate the results that you're
00:09:49.880 experiencing and then make your decisions based on that. You're out of whack right now because you're
00:09:55.100 asking the question. So you just need to get that back in alignment with your priorities and get back
00:09:59.780 on track. Tom Ward, one-on-one, what are some ideas for the rite of passage, so to speak, for
00:10:07.820 becoming a man? So ideas around rites of passage. Anything that's going to have a level of competition
00:10:14.080 involved in it, a ceremony involved in it, suffering needs to be involved. It's got to scare you. It's
00:10:22.120 got to challenge you. It's got to push you outside of your comfort zone. It typically would involve
00:10:27.020 something that you've never done or a skill that you're trying to develop, but there has to be
00:10:32.380 hardship. There has to be a clear objective and there has to be some sort of a ceremony or a ritual
00:10:41.060 along with the completion of it. And that might just be you going to compete in jujitsu and the,
00:10:48.640 the ceremony is you standing on the podium because you medaled in the, in the tournament.
00:10:52.520 So that, that would be a form of a rite of passage. Another rite of passage might be something like
00:10:58.780 Bedros Koulian's program or the Squire program that my son and I did suffering mentally, emotionally,
00:11:06.480 physically, a lot of learning, a lot of hardship. And then at the end, we had the graduation dinner,
00:11:11.840 even down to a certificate of completion for my son that he had framed. It's up on his wall.
00:11:18.800 I can see he's proud of that. It's a physical manifestation of the work that he's done.
00:11:23.680 And therefore it would fall under the category of rite of passage, but it has to have those
00:11:28.140 elements and those dynamics in order for it to, to qualify as a rite of passage.
00:11:33.440 Got it. Anthony Green. So I'm a new father. My daughter is two months old. I'd love every second
00:11:42.600 of it, but I'm having a really hard time maintaining a consistent workout routine with all the randomness
00:11:48.180 and lack of sleep that comes with a baby. Any tips, squeeze it in where you can. So this goes back to
00:11:55.160 the previous question about the irregularity of the schedule and the priorities. Of course,
00:12:00.520 less sleep right now, heavy emphasis on wife and daughter. I believe he said,
00:12:04.840 of course, that's going to be the priority. It would actually be weird if it wasn't,
00:12:09.240 if other areas of your life were completely on par in light of you having your first child.
00:12:17.600 So know that this is a season, but also make sure that you give yourself the space and the margin
00:12:23.060 to take care of yourself. That might be very early in the morning, you know, after, after she's in bed
00:12:29.000 or, you know, here's an, even another good example of way to do this is look at her sleep schedule.
00:12:35.240 And maybe once she's put down at, you know, seven o'clock or whatever it is, eight, I don't know,
00:12:41.120 whatever you do, maybe she sleeps really good for two hours. Okay. Well, there's, there's a two hour
00:12:46.560 window right there. And you know what? I bet your wife would appreciate you leaving her the hell alone
00:12:52.300 in that two hours. Cause she's up to here as well. If you are, she is probably even more so.
00:12:57.520 So say, Hey hon, you know, at seven o'clock from seven to nine, that's personal time for you. I'm
00:13:02.760 going to take from seven 30 to eight 30 and do a workout or go to jujitsu or get some things for the
00:13:07.040 house. So I can train here or go out into the garage or just go for a run or a hike. But look
00:13:13.900 at what your schedule is and then work in your physical training where you can. Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:19.820 You, and you might just need to be creative. I mean, sometimes we have these expectations of what
00:13:25.280 a quote unquote workout should look like. Well, maybe it's you taking the baby and going for a run
00:13:31.140 and you get a running stroller and now you're a runner until things get back to normal. And it's a
00:13:36.480 great way to get your child out and you know, you get active at the same time. So you just might
00:13:41.600 definitely let go of some expectation. I definitely would not recommend doing any running, but yeah,
00:13:47.360 anything other than that. Absolutely. I'm, I'm in pretty much agreement with you. Yeah. Yeah. Just
00:13:52.260 baby, uh, kettlebell swings with your child. Maybe. Yeah. I, I'm not going to condone that behavior
00:13:58.600 either, but I won't say I haven't done it. Totally. All right. Uh, Eckert 56 name one skill,
00:14:06.420 Mr. Mickler, you wish you had, but you do not. So, okay. So this is one of the questions I saw
00:14:11.520 and I actually liked this question. Okay. I was going to say, I kind of like it. I was thinking
00:14:15.740 about it on the way home. Cause I saw it. I made that post and I got in the car and drove. And so
00:14:22.040 this is one of the questions that I saw before we hopped on here. Um, it is an interesting
00:14:26.300 question. I will say it's hard for me to answer because I don't like the, the phrase wish what's
00:14:32.280 one, what's one skill you wish you had. Cause I could say a million things, but that, why would
00:14:37.540 I say that? I wish I could fill in the blank. Just do it. Just do it. If you wished it, you would
00:14:43.560 have already acted on it. Or maybe what's a, what's a skill that you have not yet determined to develop
00:14:50.680 or, or not. I would say the way that I think it should be framed is what's one skill you're
00:14:57.540 going to work on. Fair enough. I like it. But in the spirit of the question, which I, which I
00:15:02.740 understand, um, you know, I've thought about it a lot, like playing the guitar is one that I was doing,
00:15:09.640 but I stopped doing that. So I wish I had better skills with that. Uh, again, jujitsu, but again,
00:15:16.960 I'm, I'm working, I'm actively working to develop those skills right now, better learning how to
00:15:24.320 better communicate. All of the skills that I have, that I, that I have a desire to develop are things
00:15:29.400 that are actually, actually going to move the needle for me, that are going to push me in the
00:15:32.680 right direction. And all of the things that are important to me currently are the ones that I'm
00:15:37.140 actually working on right now. So let's take the guitar thing. I could say, I wish I could play the
00:15:43.200 guitar better, but I'm not practicing. So what right do I have to say? I wish I could be better.
00:15:50.420 So there's like a huge disconnect. And I'm not saying that he thinks there is, but I think there's
00:15:54.220 a lot of people out there who do think that, Hey, just wishing it, or just hoping that somehow it's
00:16:00.140 going to move the needle for you. Let's do away with the whole wish type thing and say, what are you
00:16:05.500 actively doing? What is actually important to you? So playing the guitar, frankly, is not that important
00:16:11.280 to me right now. If it was, I'd be doing it and I'm not. So therefore it's not as important as
00:16:15.540 maybe I led on to believe, or even lie to myself about whether it's guitar or something else.
00:16:21.000 Yeah. But I will say one other thing I thought about is I wish that I was more mechanically
00:16:25.880 inclined. That's something that I'm not at all. I don't know vehicles or any of that stuff. And I
00:16:31.100 actually really, it doesn't bother me, but it would be nice to be able to have some, some mechanical
00:16:37.080 knowledge when it comes to vehicles and cars and that sort of thing.
00:16:42.340 Yeah. I actually, I'd put that one on my list as well. I wish I was a little bit more
00:16:47.020 mechanically inclined. Yeah. So there it is. Got to do something about that. All right, Seth. No,
00:16:55.220 I'm not going to read that question. All right. Codename Kentucky recommendations for a beginner
00:16:59.880 archery hunting bow. You know, what I would do is I would just go into your local archer or archery shop
00:17:06.340 and I would, I would just tell them, Hey, I'm brand new. I've never picked up a bow or I did,
00:17:12.520 you know, 20 years ago. I don't know what the technology is and just ask them. And usually what
00:17:18.360 they'll do is they'll help you figure out your draw length, uh, your draw weight. They'll also,
00:17:24.540 uh, give you some basic instruction. They probably even have some bows there that you can practice on
00:17:31.280 and try and see what feels right. So that's the best thing that you can do. It's same thing with
00:17:36.240 a firearm, by the way, a lot of guys will say, what's the best firearm. There's a handful that
00:17:40.300 I would suggest are good everyday carry type firearms, but just go to the range, go to your
00:17:45.140 local gun dealer and tell them here's what's going on. I'd like to try a couple of different
00:17:50.240 pistols, see what's going to work best for me or my hand size. Like I, my everyday carry is a
00:17:55.860 Glock 43. It's a, it's a small compact single stack Glock nine millimeter. Well, a lot of guys
00:18:02.920 can't use it because they have big, way bigger hands and I have pretty small hands. So like it
00:18:06.600 actually fits into my hand pretty well. It's not going to work for everybody. Right? So you actually
00:18:10.320 have to go get your hands on it, try it out. Um, outside of that, I would go with a friend to
00:18:15.100 always go with a friend because they're going to offer insight and value, but these are people you're
00:18:18.920 also going to shoot with. So it's good to go do that stuff together. You can hit the range together,
00:18:23.680 but that's what I would suggest for whether it's a gun or a bow, anything like that.
00:18:29.320 Do you guys typically increase their draw? Uh, is it draw weight, um, over time? Because as you
00:18:37.980 shoot archery, you're getting stronger and then you need to increase or is it not that way?
00:18:44.020 No, it is that way. It's not that you're getting, I mean, technically, yes, you're getting stronger,
00:18:50.160 but it's the specific muscle group. And it's not even that it's the specific muscle group
00:18:55.440 that's getting stronger. So I've, I've got a bow. I shoot about 70 pounds is the draw weight that I
00:19:00.680 shoot. And for somebody who's never picked up a bow, I could take an individual. Have you shot a bow
00:19:08.340 much? Yeah, no, not much, but I shot one a few times. So you're, you're just as strong as I am,
00:19:15.140 maybe a little bit less probably, but let's just for the sake of argument, say that you and I are
00:19:20.500 about the same strength. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Hypothetically. Yeah. Yeah. In this, this hypothetical
00:19:25.840 world, you, you might, you're going to have a more difficult time pulling back my bow than I am
00:19:33.420 because of the, it's a weird movement when you're like stabilizing with one hand and pulling the
00:19:39.080 other. It's just a weird movement that people don't do a lot. If you row, that's probably going
00:19:42.680 to help. It's just a weird movement. So I've talked with guys and had guys actually shoot my bow who
00:19:49.280 are just as strong and capable as I am. And they can't even pull my bow back. So usually what guys
00:19:56.360 will do is they'll start lower and you can get a bow that has a range. So it might, you might start
00:20:01.720 at 50 pounds, for example, and you should like every man should be able to pull that back.
00:20:08.540 And so you draw the 50 pounds, work up to 55 and it has a range. So it might be that, that particular
00:20:14.940 bow might have a draw weight range of, you know, 50 to 80 or something, but every bow is a little
00:20:19.980 different. So you need to work through that, but yeah, usually you're going to start lower and work
00:20:23.240 your way into a higher poundage. And through that question, we just got like a little bit of
00:20:28.200 inside tip. If do not get a bow less than 50, or you're going to get made fun of, it sounds like.
00:20:34.640 I mean, you're, I'm not going to make fun of it, but my 13 year old kid is pulling 50 pounds. So
00:20:42.240 every man, I'm not saying that demeaning. I'm just saying every man should, should have no problem
00:20:46.940 with 50 pounds. All right. But, but honestly, like I'm registering that, right? Like I would not,
00:20:53.240 if I showed up at your house to go shoot and my draw weights 40, you would make fun of me. You'd
00:21:00.500 be like, I totally would a hundred percent. Well, we've got four or five Hoyt bows here that we run
00:21:06.360 with our, for our events. And I'll have to look cause I haven't written down, but I think the
00:21:10.000 draw weight is between 50 and 55 pounds up to 65 to 70 pounds. On all of those? On all of them.
00:21:17.400 There's different. Okay. So I know I can pull 50 cause I pulled one of those.
00:21:21.020 There isn't, there isn't one less than 50 pounds. So you're safe, brother. You're safe.
00:21:25.500 Done. All right. Just checking. I'm going to mess with you. I'm going to crank them up to 80 and say
00:21:29.480 they're only 50. What the hell? You can't pull that back?
00:21:34.420 Oh man. Uh, geez. These are these, you, you found good questions in here. These are horrible.
00:21:40.960 Uh, okay. Have you ever thought of competing in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu?
00:21:45.360 Yeah. I have thought about that. I haven't, but, um, but yeah, I mean, it's definitely a
00:21:51.840 consideration. I think there's a lot of learning. You could tell me more cause I know you've competed,
00:21:54.920 but I think in a short period of time you, you learn a lot and you really see how you stack up
00:22:01.360 against somebody that you never trained with potentially. So there's a lot to be said for
00:22:05.940 that. So, yeah, I think I probably will at some point. Again, I think it's great measurement.
00:22:10.120 Well, look for me, this comes down to priorities for me to take a Saturday to go do like go do a
00:22:18.160 tournament is probably not going to happen because I don't want to give up one of my Saturdays. Either
00:22:22.940 I'm traveling, doing something with a podcast or I'm here with my family. And I don't know. I will
00:22:29.040 tell you one thing I got jaded on in high school with wrestling and maybe Jiu Jitsu is different.
00:22:34.400 And I'm sure each tournament's a little different. Yeah. They are so poorly run and managed
00:22:38.720 that infuriates me. It's like people are sitting around, you got 10 mats and only one match going
00:22:45.120 on at a time. You got to wait for 17 effing hours before your next match. I, I am such an efficient
00:22:52.800 person and somebody who really values efficiency. Like there's, there's convenient stores in town.
00:22:59.680 I won't even go to because I get infuriated with the way that they run it. So I'm like, I can't,
00:23:04.460 I can't go into that store. I don't know if the tournament's the same way, but I just do not want
00:23:10.700 to play that game. Yeah. It depends on the promotion. Of course. Some, some are actually
00:23:15.540 well organized. Other ones are horrible. Right. For sure. All right. Let's find one of these good
00:23:22.040 questions. I mean, we got stuff like, do you like a Yeti cooler? Do you like the song purple rain? I mean,
00:23:28.240 like, I don't even know where you guys came up with this stuff. Okay. Book recommendations for my
00:23:34.060 10 year old son, Jofo prime. Uh, I was, when you said Jofo prime, I'm like, what is, what does that
00:23:42.480 mean? I didn't know. That's the guy's name. Yeah. Got it. Uh, 10 year old son, Jocko's books,
00:23:47.920 way the warrior kid series are really good. I think that's a great age range for a 10 year old.
00:23:52.420 Another one that of my personal favorites is hatchet. That's a really good one. Jack London's
00:23:59.420 got some amazing books. Uh, there's awesome books for, for kids, for boys, but they should
00:24:06.200 involve adventure and risk. Uh, Mark Twain, of course, you know, like there's, there's awesome
00:24:13.120 stuff out there. So I would say have it at be adventurous, have some risk-taking, um, manly
00:24:19.540 stuff like hatchet, like trying to survive in the wilderness. Like all of this stuff is,
00:24:23.320 is awesome, but there's three or four for you right off the bat. There you go. Any you would
00:24:28.200 add? No, I, the first ones that came to mind is way of the warrior kid. Yeah. I, I love those books.
00:24:34.440 In fact, my daughter's like going through, I think we're starting them over again because she wants
00:24:39.920 to read them again. Cool. So yeah. Um, all right, Shauna, Shauna Clayton, uh, some recommendations
00:24:48.200 on people who follow on Instagram that you would recommend. I don't, I mean, just whoever you like,
00:24:54.200 like, I don't know. Um, I personally follow, um, we follow all the same people. Just go through my
00:25:00.200 recommendations list. We follow all the same people. Yeah. Don't follow that guy though.
00:25:05.480 Yeah. I mean, that's the cool thing. So here's, okay. I'll give you some practical advice. If you
00:25:09.740 want to find people to follow on Instagram, what you do is you go in and you type in Instagram,
00:25:13.400 you go to the search bar and you type Ryan Mickler or whoever, hypothetically, that's what
00:25:20.400 you type in there. And then you click on my name and you click on the little following button right
00:25:24.800 there. And you can see everybody that I follow. So here's the first few that come right off the top.
00:25:30.400 Sean Whalen, uh, Andy Frisilla, Andy Stumpf, Madison Cawthorn, follow of court, Pete Roberts and
00:25:37.420 Origen, Jack Donovan, uh, Sal Frisilla, Evan Hafer, Chris Gatchko, Bert. I mean, guys,
00:25:43.880 Granger Smith. I'm not going to read them all to you. Just find who you like, whoever you resonate
00:25:49.160 with. Let's say it's me or Pete or, or, or Andy or whoever, just click that follow button.
00:25:54.280 Instagram has made it easy to see who you should follow. Zuby is another one. He's coming on the
00:25:58.280 podcast here in the next month or two, but they're, they're all on there. Bedros, Koulian,
00:26:02.900 they're there. It's kind of like a, the Google search function. You can take advantage of it,
00:26:07.520 but you gotta, gotta get after it. All right. Next question. Um, RDB smiles. Hey, Ryan really
00:26:17.560 would love to hear your thoughts on, uh, when building a business restaurant chain, possibly
00:26:22.480 do you prefer to bootstrap? Uh, what if there are no funds to bootstrap small business loan after
00:26:30.880 developing a business plan or trying to find an investor always feels like you need the money to
00:26:36.080 make money? Although I think that there's also probably an excuse. It might be, but it also
00:26:42.860 depends on the business. So my business, for example, is very low investment required. When I started,
00:26:53.520 I had a $70 microphone, an old computer, an old office chair and desk, uh, and that's really it.
00:27:00.640 So, and, and I think I paid 15 bucks a month to host my podcast on Libsyn. That's really all that
00:27:08.000 I had. So if it's that kind of business, even with t-shirts, you could have a, uh, uh, printing
00:27:14.720 business that they'll just print one-off shirts as they're ordered. Now you're not going to make as
00:27:19.600 much doing that, but at least you can try. You always talk about a kit, that minimum viable
00:27:24.220 product, and you're not having to buy 200 shirts at a time, having them sit in your house and then
00:27:29.040 not being able to say, sell a dang one of them. So now you're talking about a potential restaurant
00:27:34.320 chain. Okay. If you need to buy into a franchise, obviously you have to have the capital. If you're
00:27:40.300 talking about starting your own restaurant, which I don't know that I would recommend, I would
00:27:45.040 definitely find a business partner and or investor on that. Somebody who's already done that
00:27:48.700 because that's a crazy business from what I hear, then some capital is probably going to be required
00:27:54.320 because you're going to need to buy machinery and cooking equipment and rent cash registers and
00:27:59.620 booths and tables and chairs and the space. And then you're going to have to do a build out on the
00:28:03.220 space. And so if that's what you want to do, having an investor or having some capital is going to be
00:28:08.560 a requirement, but just be smart. You use your head. Don't get overly emotional. Don't turn
00:28:15.320 whatever it is, your idea into this sacred cow that you just won't touch or won't look at from
00:28:20.980 a rational, reasonable perspective. You're going to be excited about that. That's good. You should
00:28:25.560 be excited about it. But if that's the only factor, your level of excitement, then you probably
00:28:32.240 have some blind spots and setting yourself up for failure. So more so than asking me if you should have
00:28:40.780 capital or no capital or bootstrap or get an investor is you should really talk with somebody
00:28:46.120 who's been hyper successful in the industry that you're trying to go into. And I've never owned a
00:28:51.380 restaurant and I have no desire to own a restaurant. So anything that I told you would be, well, it would
00:28:57.160 just be unqualified advice. So find somebody that's done it. Ask them that question. That's the better way
00:29:03.200 to ask that. Yeah. If you don't mind me sharing, I think I'm going to slaughter this story a little
00:29:09.940 bit, but a friend of a friend started a chain here. And I actually, I think it's in multiple states in
00:29:16.580 the Midwest or in the Southwest called Sweeto Burrito. And the way he started that chain, it was a food truck
00:29:25.260 in North Dakota. Right. Great point. Great point. It was a food truck that everyone loved. And then they
00:29:31.640 bought out the food truck company and made it into a restaurant chain. Great point. MVP. Yeah. Right.
00:29:38.000 So there's, there's some strategies. And I think too, like if I came to you, Ryan, and said, Hey,
00:29:43.200 I want to open up a food restaurant chain or whatever. And I don't have anything to show you
00:29:48.040 that's going to be unique about this restaurant, or that's going to be a hard decision for you to invest
00:29:54.100 in my quote unquote idea. If I don't have something right to prove that it's going to be a valuable or
00:30:00.200 it's, you know, people like it or, or, or whatever. So, yeah, there's another example,
00:30:05.760 as you said that, because that's a really good story. There's a place a couple of miles from here
00:30:09.920 and they probably just rented a space from whoever owns the complex next to them. It's this big empty
00:30:17.680 parking lot and they poured a bunch of gravel and they have a trailer that they pulled in and it's a
00:30:23.440 semi-permanent trailer now. Cause they've done a little build out, but it's clearly a trailer,
00:30:26.940 but they did a build out and built, you know, frame around it and whatnot. And I imagine the
00:30:31.840 way that I see it going, and I've actually never been there, but if that place does well enough
00:30:36.420 that the next thing you'll see is you'll see maybe a little bit more of a permanent structure,
00:30:41.320 or they'll move from this place to this other place and they'll start leasing an actual space,
00:30:46.240 like you said, and then it'll grow and grow and grow, and then they'll have their next
00:30:49.440 thing and so on and so forth. So there are ways to do that. I'm just not qualified to share them,
00:30:55.000 but that is a great point you bring up. Charles William, I know you lean conservative,
00:31:00.700 but are there certain liberal values you wish the right would embrace and adopt?
00:31:09.120 Uh, I mean, I would say that anymore, I'm more of a libertarian more so like just leave everybody
00:31:19.400 alone and let them to their devices. I'm, I tend to be a pretty black and white guy. So,
00:31:24.960 I mean, maybe if you had some policy that you would consider a liberal policy,
00:31:29.800 I would be able to more specifically tell you, yes, I agree or no, I don't, but generally I just
00:31:35.920 want to be left alone. Um, I want the government to deal with our border security and our nation's
00:31:43.340 defense and pretty much want to be left alone to do what I want to do outside of that. And I think
00:31:49.220 other people should as well. So whatever side of the aisle and issue falls on, it's probably going
00:31:55.940 to be that leave us alone, let people make their own decisions. Now I believe in law and order. Of
00:32:00.540 course, I believe that there needs to be some rules. I also believe that there should be a level playing
00:32:04.820 field now that that's equality under the law, not necessarily equity, which is equal outcomes. I don't
00:32:13.120 believe in that. Everybody's different. Kip, you and I are different. And even if we were
00:32:17.400 twins and we were raised the same way, our outcomes would be different because of the way that we
00:32:22.940 think and experiences that we have individually and collectively, or the way we determine them and
00:32:27.100 interpret them. So equal, equal, uh, equality under the law. And outside of that, again,
00:32:37.400 protect our borders, defend our nation, let States make their own decisions about education,
00:32:43.260 abortion, abortion, some of these other issues, and then just let people make their decisions, period.
00:32:50.580 Yeah. Got it. Alec M. Falk, as a follower of Christ and building my own financial planning
00:32:59.740 business, almost five years in, I'm trying to make the shift from depending on, uh, make the shift
00:33:05.360 from depending on me less and on God more in the Bible and church. We say that it's all up to God,
00:33:11.920 but I still have to do the work in the past. I have worked like it was all up to me and the stress
00:33:17.880 I put on myself through was not healthy or sustainable. Now that I have given my business
00:33:23.520 and the success that comes with it to God, I feel the weight has been lifted off my shoulders and I
00:33:29.540 have a better business and relationship with God. Do you ever make that shift in mindset to depend
00:33:35.360 more on God and, and release high self expectations?
00:33:41.320 My philosophy is this, and I'm a Christian, but my philosophy is this,
00:33:45.960 do what you can do good and go as hard as you can and let the chips fall where they may.
00:33:53.320 I believe that if I do everything that I individually can, I work hard, I do what's right.
00:33:58.620 I strive to be a good and decent human being. I work to make myself more capable.
00:34:04.100 It's going to be inadequate. And I feel like God will make up the difference for me.
00:34:09.640 My fear for so many people who are Christians is that they do it the other way around.
00:34:17.020 I'm just going to rely so heavily on God and God and God, he's going to do this. He's going to do all
00:34:20.680 these things. He's going to make my wildest dreams come true and I don't have to do anything.
00:34:23.440 And they've got it backwards. And I would suggest to you that God says, you do everything that you
00:34:29.820 possibly can to be a good and decent human being, to make yourself more capable. All the things I
00:34:34.080 just said, and I will make up the difference. And I acknowledge his hand in all things. Even look,
00:34:42.500 even the things that I personally do, for example, I feel like I run a pretty good podcast.
00:34:48.700 So it'd be easy to say, I did this. I built this. No, I didn't build this. I have talents and gifts
00:34:56.840 and abilities and opportunities in a mindset and experiences that were all presented to me through
00:35:03.140 him. And I've been able to capitalize on those opportunities, but look, I'm healthy. Maybe I
00:35:10.180 already have the predisposition to be a great communicator or to be a great networker or to be
00:35:14.520 curious. Those aren't things that I necessarily developed. I sure I have a little bit, but there
00:35:20.540 might just be some of that inherent in my personality. And I acknowledge his hand in that.
00:35:25.320 So we need to be mindful of using the talents, gifts, abilities, and opportunities that he has
00:35:30.640 presented doing all that we can with those opportunities and gifts. And then being understanding
00:35:37.460 that he's going to fill in the blanks. And also this, here's another thing. We don't always know the
00:35:42.500 plan. So you might be doing everything that you possibly can to grow your business or to fix that
00:35:48.660 relationship or whatever it is you're working on. And the result doesn't turn out the way that you
00:35:55.180 would like it. And it would be easy to say, I've done everything. Why don't you help me and forsake him
00:36:02.180 in that moment? It would be easy to do that. And in fact, I have done that. And then you fast forward
00:36:08.120 five years and you look back at that experience, you're like, Oh, got it. What I wanted wasn't what
00:36:16.160 he wanted for me. And so he was preparing me for what I'm into right now. That's my take.
00:36:25.100 Yeah. I like it. All right. Xavier Morgan, how do you, what do you do when your profession no longer
00:36:33.980 aligns with your values? I'm an active duty Marine and I have a few buddies who wonder the same thing.
00:36:39.560 Our job takes us away from our families for long periods of time. I have always thought that being
00:36:43.940 a good Marine would make me a good husband and father and vice versa. I completely agree with your
00:36:49.500 take on work life balance, but the nature of the job does not allow for that, which is why I'm
00:36:55.100 considering switching professions, but I can't seem to let go. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you.
00:37:01.100 Look, there's probably some reasons. So as a, as a Marine, there's probably some reasons that you're
00:37:06.660 having a hard time letting go because there's a lot of value that comes from that, that you still
00:37:10.980 align with. And you've been, I'm trying to think about the way to say this. I'm trying to be selective
00:37:18.980 with my words. I'll just say it this way. You've been conditioned to be loyal from right Marine Corps.
00:37:27.120 You're a Marine. Once a Marine, always a Marine. Like you have been conditioned to be loyal.
00:37:31.100 And there's nothing wrong with that. But once you start to see that your current trajectory is not
00:37:36.480 serving you or the people that you care about, or is not in alignment with your values, you make the
00:37:41.860 simple, not easy, the simple choice to move into something that is going to be more in alignment with
00:37:49.920 your values and your goals and your objectives. It's that simple. It really is. And so we complicate it and
00:37:56.120 we think, well, you know, am I quitting? What are the guys going to think of me? Or I have this,
00:38:01.740 you know, package. I've got 12 years in now. I got it. I'm almost eight years away from retirement.
00:38:06.840 And so we suffer needlessly because we allow some factors to, well, we give those factors more weight
00:38:14.980 than they should. So what I would suggest to you is that if you feel like it's no longer in alignment,
00:38:21.700 whether it's the Marine Corps or the army or selling insurance and investments like I was doing,
00:38:27.320 then you actively today, start today, work towards creating your next mission, whatever that is.
00:38:36.340 So when I was doing the financial planning stuff, my next mission was order of man. I was building
00:38:42.020 order of man while I was doing my financial planning stuff. And in the military, you have great options
00:38:47.300 for transitioning and you've got time. You also have contracts that you may need to see all the way
00:38:52.400 through to the end, but look, you've got a window right now. So take advantage of this window because
00:38:58.080 the last thing I want to have happen, and this goes for any military member, is for them to hit
00:39:03.320 retirement or decide that they're going to leave the military and not really have a strategy moving
00:39:09.780 forward. A lot of military members do that and it's teasing them up for failure because they feel
00:39:15.260 worthless. They feel helpless. They've lost the brotherhood. They've lost the camaraderie. They've
00:39:19.760 lost the discipline in the structure that comes with the military. And they didn't take advantage
00:39:26.260 of the time that they knew they were going to transition out to the time they're actually
00:39:29.360 transitioning out. So be building something right now, be working towards something right now.
00:39:34.540 And that transition, well, let me say it this way. Let me have you wrap your head around this.
00:39:40.580 If you already knew what you were going to do when you got out of the military, like you already had
00:39:45.700 a plan in place. He said, I'm going to move on to this thing and me and my buddies are going to grow
00:39:48.800 this business or we're going to start this thing. Would you leave? If today was already in place,
00:39:55.640 if the plan was in place, you knew what it was going to be, would you leave? And the answer is yes,
00:40:01.020 right? I'm assuming based on the question. Okay. So if the answer is yes,
00:40:06.620 then all that's missing is the next step. You already know you want to transition out.
00:40:12.000 You just need the next step. So take this time right now to build that out. So when the time
00:40:16.680 comes, you'll be able to do it. Copy. Dave River 15, any thoughts on bad selfishness
00:40:24.720 and how to stop thinking about myself above other people's needs?
00:40:28.260 I tend to be a pretty selfish individual. That's like my natural inclination is to look after me
00:40:36.380 and mine and to hell with everything else. And sometimes I leave a wake of collateral damage
00:40:40.600 in my path. That's just how it's been being 40 years on this planet. So it is something I personally
00:40:47.480 need to be mindful of. And what I found is that if you can give yourself to a cause greater than you,
00:40:53.600 that's very important, then you'll be less selfish. So order of man for me is that cause.
00:40:59.480 I want to see men thrive. I want to see young men be able to transition successfully into manhood. I
00:41:06.920 want marriages to thrive. I want you guys to make money and to be healthy and to live fulfilled lives.
00:41:13.080 That's what I want. And because that's what I want, then I am more able to focus on other people.
00:41:20.500 A great example is this morning. I could have very easily said, I don't want to do a podcast today,
00:41:25.640 but it's too important for me not to do a podcast. Not for me, because I would have loved to sleep in.
00:41:32.080 I'd love to see my family. There's a lot of things I'd love to do right now, but I'm here doing this
00:41:37.860 podcast because I care about the work and therefore I'm going to sacrifice what I want in order to give
00:41:45.280 you what I interpret or feel like you as men need who listen to this podcast.
00:41:49.740 So maybe the reason you're selfish is because you haven't found or discovered or created
00:41:56.360 anything more important than yourself yet. And if that's the case, that should be a red flag that
00:42:04.420 maybe you're missing some meaning in your life. And I would be working very diligently to create
00:42:13.820 and discover and uncover that meaning that will allow you to be less selfish.
00:42:19.200 Yeah. If it's not obvious, right? The benefits is far more than just being less selfish, right? If you
00:42:26.520 think about what comes with a purpose-driven life and making your time on this rock more valuable than
00:42:34.900 just your own personal gain, I mean, obviously the results is far greater than just a refocus of time
00:42:41.860 and effort. Well, and the ironic thing is that by serving other people in a meaningful and significant
00:42:49.200 way, you actually get a lot out of it. I feel fulfilled. I feel uplifted. I have developed my own
00:42:57.700 set of skills. I am making more money than I ever have. Right? So it's a little backwards. It's a little
00:43:03.580 counterintuitive, but I can tell you from experience as a, as a selfish person myself, that when you
00:43:10.860 serve other people in a meaningful way, it's inevitable that you will be served as well. Zig Ziglar said it
00:43:16.860 best. If you help enough people get what they want, you will inevitably get what it is you want. So you
00:43:23.000 can't, you can't separate the two. And I think a lot of people believe that like, Oh, if I donate
00:43:27.840 money or time or charity or resources or time or attention or energy, I don't get anything out of it
00:43:32.840 or I don't get that back. No, it's actually an investment in yourself. It's very counterintuitive,
00:43:38.880 but anybody who's given back and served or found a meaning or a purpose or a mission higher than
00:43:44.840 themselves understands that they can't just extrapolate themselves from that equation.
00:43:50.200 Yeah. All right. Dishy man. What is one good strategy to deal with and overcome distractions?
00:43:59.800 I would make a plan. That's the most important thing you could do because if you don't have a plan,
00:44:04.900 you're just going to get tossed to and fro and I don't know where to go. And Oh, there's that. Oh,
00:44:08.800 this looks enticing. Oh, I can go to this. Shiny object of the day. Yeah. Right. Right. So if you
00:44:13.900 haven't charted your course, if we're looking at a, you know, a ship or, or you're going to,
00:44:19.120 you know, go to Disneyland with your family and you haven't charted that course of how you're going
00:44:22.740 to get there, how do you decide what's the most effective way to get there? Well, you base it on
00:44:27.000 what's in front of you at the moment, but what's in front of you at the moment is bright and shiny
00:44:30.940 object syndrome, especially for people who have the, the tendency to go this direction where they're
00:44:37.980 just so easily distracted, formulate a plan for what you want. So one thing I know about the fitness
00:44:45.440 industry is that a lot of guys will bounce from program to program, to program, to program,
00:44:50.660 because they're not experiencing the results that they want, or they get bored or whatever.
00:44:54.280 Okay. Well, the best results you're going to experience is when you actually stick to a program
00:44:58.720 for the prescribed period of time and complete the program. So you have to have a program and you have
00:45:06.940 to stick with it. And if you commit to the program, in this case, you know, the plan of action,
00:45:12.300 then you aren't going to be distracted by these things. They might be enticing, but you made the
00:45:18.400 commitment. So if you're going to do 75 hard, for example, then do 75 hard. Don't do 32 medium and
00:45:27.520 then get distracted by the next, next 60 day summer ab challenge that comes along, like actually commit
00:45:36.000 to what you're going to do, see it through. And then when it's done, you can evaluate it and decide,
00:45:40.560 okay, I want to do that again, continue down the course, or I want to try something different based
00:45:44.520 on the results that I experienced or the results that I'm after, but chart your course, commit to
00:45:51.760 that plan of action. And then only then will you evaluate. I did that when we started the podcast,
00:45:57.020 I committed to doing a podcast every week, weekly for two years. So that's over a hundred episodes.
00:46:04.040 My personal commitment was to yourself. That was my personal. I'm going to do this for two years.
00:46:08.980 We period, period. And after two years, only after two years, would I then evaluate whether
00:46:16.680 or not I wanted to continue to do it or not? No, that's not to say that I didn't evaluate it along
00:46:21.580 the road to make it better and improve it and see where I could get enhanced the quality of things.
00:46:27.420 But I didn't, I wasn't going to throw in the towel until two years. We did the same thing when we
00:46:32.320 moved to Maine. My wife and I talked about it. We said, we're going to give ourselves
00:46:35.060 two solid, fully committed years in Maine, like not dipping our toe in the water, not like seeing,
00:46:42.460 no, we're going all in for two years. And after two years, then we'll evaluate whether we want to
00:46:49.220 stay or whether we want to go. But we come, we had a plan of action. We're both on the same page
00:46:54.460 about it. We committed to the course of action. And in both of those examples that I gave you,
00:46:59.400 it actually ended up turning out pretty favorably. And I would argue that if you do it that way,
00:47:04.100 it's going to turn out more favorably than not. If you create the plan of action and you commit to
00:47:09.860 the plan of action and you see it through to the end. Yeah. Sam Broadway had a similar question. So
00:47:15.540 let's see if you'd add anything to what you're saying. He says, what metric do you use to personally,
00:47:19.840 what metrics do you personally use to track your own success? And this is a good,
00:47:25.320 or we can talk about battle plans and whatnot, but go ahead. Yeah. And to your point about battle
00:47:31.200 plan, tracking your success really depends on what it is you're trying to accomplish. So
00:47:36.700 income is certainly a metric that I evaluate. How's the business doing? How's the income? How's
00:47:46.260 the debt to income? All that stuff. I track all of that. So that's an important metric. I'll look at
00:47:50.120 my personal accounts and my investments and I'll track that. I'll look at just the quality of the
00:47:56.260 relationships that I have. And that is a little more difficult. And I tend to be more intuitive
00:48:02.280 on that. Like I'll ask myself, how was my relationship with my wife right now? It's good
00:48:07.100 at in the not too distant past, it was disconnected. So I asked myself, how is this relationship? Oh,
00:48:14.060 it's disconnected. It feels like I'm living with a roommate, not my, my beautiful bride. So
00:48:18.660 what can I do to change that? So that's a more intuitive answer that I look at. But the hard
00:48:24.440 data is easy. You know, you look at podcast downloads, you look at income, you jump on the
00:48:28.780 scale, you look at your, your, your deadlift and how much you're lifting or not lifting. Those are
00:48:34.020 easy. It's the soft ones typically when it comes to relationships that are more challenging. And I tend
00:48:39.920 to be more intuitive. How does it feel? Does it feel on track? What are the pain points? What are the
00:48:47.840 issues? What can you do to improve it? And through asking yourself those questions, you start to
00:48:52.680 unpack some plans of action moving forward. Yeah. And I think at least on the business side,
00:48:59.240 one thing that has really been present for me of late is just making a distinction of leading
00:49:05.720 indicators, right? Like I, it's good to understand where, how we are succeeding, but what are the
00:49:12.760 leading indicators that led to that success? And, and let's now have some metrics and some KPIs around
00:49:19.500 those. So then that way we ensure that we're succeeding, right? Right. Basic way of looking at
00:49:25.540 this is leads opportunities and projects, right? It's like, okay, for us to have that much business
00:49:32.460 that required these many closed opportunities and those closed opportunities required this many leads.
00:49:37.420 So now let's put some indicator, indications, some metrics around those leads, Jen. So that way we
00:49:43.380 ensure that we have that proper level of leads and we just don't sit back and go, oh crap, business is
00:49:49.820 slow. And now, you know, you're, you're too delayed, right? Because those are lagging indicators.
00:49:55.340 So that's, I like that, but let's apply that also to your relationships. There's lead indicators in
00:50:01.180 your relationship too, that you ought to pay attention to. Some people call them red flags or whatever,
00:50:05.800 but there's indicators that are there. If you're in tune with it, you're paying attention that you'll
00:50:11.100 see your wife will say something. She might just say it in passing, or she might not say anything,
00:50:16.340 but you just see a little shift in her personality or your relationship together. Leading indicators,
00:50:23.760 don't wait until, and most guys will do this until you have a blowup, an argument, or even worse,
00:50:30.160 go straight to separation or divorce, or she cheats, or you cheat. Catch those leading indicators as
00:50:35.360 quickly as you possibly can. Yeah. And, and I, you know, I read a book around troubled teens right now
00:50:41.120 and the same thing for children. There, there are red flags that most people, most parents ignore
00:50:47.660 because they're uncomfortable. And then before you know it, we have habits formed and we have
00:50:52.820 a separation in relationships and we have, you know, drifting apart between child and parent because
00:50:58.680 we didn't address the things up front. And there's a lot of, uh, indicators there.
00:51:03.440 I, it it's, this is such an important topic because it's, we're talking about business and
00:51:08.560 money and relationships, but it also applies to this country. You know, I've heard from a lot of
00:51:11.980 people who say, Oh, it's not that bad. Oh, it's just this. It's just that there's a lot of red flags
00:51:17.320 that we as a country are, we, I should say, we as citizens of this country are overlooking because
00:51:21.660 we're saying to ourselves, Oh, it's not that bad. Oh, it's just this. Oh, it's just that.
00:51:26.040 And so we're justifying the behavior. And then the precedent is being set that we're easily
00:51:30.080 trampled. We're pushed around, we're manipulated, we're coerced, and we're not willing to stand up
00:51:34.460 for ourselves. So it applies to our country. It applies to relationships. It applies to business.
00:51:40.680 It even applies to your own personal goals and ambitions. You know, if you want to get locked in
00:51:45.900 with your diet and nutrition, for example, and, uh, you know, you realize that, Hey, at late at night,
00:51:51.880 and this is my struggle, I get bored a little bit. And so I like to eat. Okay.
00:51:56.020 Well, that's a little red flag. It's not okay to do it. And you might say, well, it's okay. I've
00:52:01.260 justified it. You know, I worked hard today. That's one of the things I say, I earned it.
00:52:06.360 Uh, it's just, just, just this, you know, just tonight, but tomorrow I'll be no, none of that.
00:52:13.220 Don't let that stuff in address it early and often you'll be significantly better served if you do.
00:52:18.960 And so will the people you care about. Another thing I had for Sam around metrics, um, within the iron
00:52:24.620 council, we do our goal setting around, um, a tooling called the battle plan and which you can
00:52:32.460 obviously read about within Ryan's book, but there's a couple of resources. If you go to
00:52:37.260 store.orderofman.com, you can get a paper version of that battle plan. If you're like Ryan and you're
00:52:42.800 like eighties, 80 years old and don't feel comfortable using a computer and have to use
00:52:47.720 paper. I am an old soul. I really, even as a kid, I always felt like I was like 50 years old. So all
00:52:54.700 my friends make fun of me. So you can go paper route. If you want to go that you store.orderofman.com,
00:53:01.200 or you can actually even get the mobile app, uh, from the Apple store or Google play. Um,
00:53:09.020 or just go to 12 week battle planner.com. Uh, and you can purchase the app from there as well.
00:53:13.980 And that's the tooling that we use within the iron council for like tracking our success and our
00:53:18.620 metrics around what we're doing. That's right. Cool. Let's take a couple more. All right. Yeah. So,
00:53:24.040 uh, really digging actually, you know what? It's funny at I'm reading these questions. I'm like, okay,
00:53:29.540 wait, there are some really good ones. Some of them are towards the bottom. So we're going to
00:53:32.940 have to maybe come back to these next, uh, next week. Uh, Sophia Lauren, uh, a woman listener and
00:53:39.660 question. We don't get these too often, at least not questions. Are there any good podcast answer?
00:53:45.580 Only men. We don't help women. That's not our focus. He men woman hater club here. Just kidding.
00:53:50.840 It's club. Yeah, totally. All right. What does Sophia have? Let's hear it. All right. Are there any
00:53:55.900 good podcasts out there that speak more to the mom's role on racing a boy into a man? We are
00:54:01.860 welcoming our first son into the world any day now. I wish I could tell you, honestly, I don't know
00:54:07.560 right off hand. I actually had a good conversation with a friend of mine, uh, at total archery challenge
00:54:11.680 this weekend because she's considering starting a podcast. And I told her that this is, it's funny
00:54:16.880 you asked this because I told her this is one of the most common questions I get from women. There's
00:54:21.480 two questions I get from women. Number one, how do I raise my son as a single mother?
00:54:27.560 Number two, where's the women's equivalent of what you're doing? And she actually touched on both
00:54:32.800 raising sons and the female equivalent of what we're doing. I don't know if you guys have some
00:54:37.800 great resources on that, please let us know. Uh, I, I wish I had a better resource. There's a lot of
00:54:45.060 women out there that I've seen talking about this stuff, but it seems to me that the women who are
00:54:51.720 doing this are more talking about how to grind, how to hustle. And it's all business related. And I
00:54:58.040 don't talk about that all the time. There's a lot of Instagram things, a lot of podcasts that talk
00:55:03.500 about men grinding and hustling and working. It's important. It has its place, but guys like this,
00:55:09.460 I want, I'm, I'm more well-rounded at least I'm trying to be. And that's what I'm trying to give you.
00:55:13.220 So I've, it's, it's been hard to find a woman who does that too, because a woman who's out there
00:55:18.640 doing a podcast like this is going to try to think about the best way to say this is she's going to
00:55:24.920 be a little bit more masculine in her approach to life. I think just because of the nature of what
00:55:32.740 she's doing, like she's going to get out there. She's a go-getter. She's hustling. She's grind.
00:55:36.100 She's doing that. I would love to see a woman who is a state, excuse me, a stay at home mom,
00:55:42.820 somebody who wants to be balanced, somebody who wants to raise her children and maybe does also
00:55:48.060 have a career or not. That's what I'd like to see, but I, I haven't yet seen it. And I've been
00:55:53.240 trying to convince my wife to do it for years and she won't. So, um, I do think, correct me if I'm
00:55:59.540 wrong, if you agree or not. I mean, you probably are. I mean, that's like, but I think the boy crisis
00:56:05.800 is a great resource. I, some of it's a little, maybe a little too, some of his viewpoints, I
00:56:13.160 obviously don't agree with like politically, but the foundation that he lays of the dilemma
00:56:19.660 that boys are raised into in our society. And some of the dichotomies of being a boy or a man,
00:56:27.280 I think is highly insightful. And I think that would be from a mother's perspective. You need
00:56:33.060 to understand kind of this odd, I don't know, this odd society and world in which your boy's
00:56:39.720 being raised in and what's being expected of him, um, and asked of him in a really unique way.
00:56:46.860 And it is somewhat unique. If you think about it, it's very interesting.
00:56:50.840 I think that's a great point. Uh, there's also a book that came to mind as you said that,
00:56:55.580 which is wild at heart. Yeah. If you want to understand why men are the way they are and
00:57:02.120 what they do and what they're after as a mother, it seems like you're very interested in that.
00:57:07.520 Then go read wild at heart. And here's what I would say. Don't assume or attempt to correct it.
00:57:17.060 Okay. But that's probably what you'll be tempted to do. Whoa. That's not right. Because I feel this
00:57:23.560 way. Right. Because you're a woman and that's not wrong either. But if you really want to strive
00:57:29.220 to understand your boys, then don't take a great book like that and try to interpret it through
00:57:35.800 your female vision, just accept it, embrace it. You don't even have to fully understand it. You know,
00:57:40.700 one of the premises and wild at heart, for example, uh, that, that is a question that every man or
00:57:45.740 attempt is attempting to ask himself is, do I have what it takes? Now you might hear that as a woman
00:57:52.360 and think, well, they're measuring themselves on performance and how they, yes, yes. And you don't
00:57:59.800 have to agree with it. You don't have to like it. You don't have to understand it, but it is. So the
00:58:06.800 better that you can wrap your head around it and just embrace it for what it is, the more opportunities
00:58:10.920 you can create for your sons where they can attempt to begin to answer that question in the
00:58:17.540 affirmative in their own lives. Yeah. All right. Uh, Nate Duffy morning, sir. My name is Nathan
00:58:24.620 Duffy. I am 19 years old. I've been listening to the podcast for about two weeks now, and I got to
00:58:29.320 say it has truly been beneficial getting the insight that you and your guests provide. With that said,
00:58:34.760 I'm curious, how do you strive to maintain balance within your life on a daily basis as stressors go,
00:58:41.680 uh, as stressors grow and kids, family work and the rest that are introduced. I know a routine is
00:58:48.260 crucial, but I just wanted, wanted some insights on how to do that. Thank you, sir. And have a great
00:58:54.180 day. Yeah. So go back last week and the week before and the week before that we were always talking
00:58:59.500 about work-life balance. And so this is, again, we've talked about it actually earlier today. This is the
00:59:04.160 same thing that you're getting into. Yes. There's stressors. Yes. There's challenges. And I think you even
00:59:08.860 use the term balance. Sometimes it's going to be perfectly distributed. And most of the time it's
00:59:14.500 not going to be perfectly distributed. So I feel like a little bit, I answered this question in
00:59:18.560 telling you that you ought to look at the indicators, look at the results when you aren't producing what
00:59:24.000 you want in different facets of your life. That's where you make the pivots and reallocate your assets.
00:59:29.760 Hey, when I say reallocate your assets, I'm talking about your time to attention and energy.
00:59:34.080 So as an example, Ryan, go ahead. Well, I want to make sure that I understand. So,
00:59:42.200 I mean, are you saying, okay, I'm stressed out and the balance is, hey, stop doing some work and get
00:59:49.760 some personal time or relaxed time in, or is it something else? And is it more meditation or is it
00:59:58.300 more thoughtfulness? Like what is the balance to, to being stressed out with all these things going
01:00:06.240 on? Get to the balance to being stressed out is get your shit done and don't commit to things that
01:00:13.040 you get stressed out about anymore. Cause I've been stressed out in my life. I'm a little stressed out
01:00:18.660 right now because for the last three weeks I've been traveling. So I've been a little distant with
01:00:23.160 our, our iron council, our brotherhood. I've been a little distant with my family. I haven't been able
01:00:28.000 to hit all of my obligations and responsibilities the way I would have liked. I'm not a hundred
01:00:32.140 percent on those things because I've been traveling so much. And I actually take great joy in meeting
01:00:37.040 people and being out there and advancing what we're doing here. But I've done an after action
01:00:41.980 review and I realize, okay, I can't travel this way, or I can't do a podcast right when I get back
01:00:50.180 from traveling. So I adjust the way that I show up in the future. So I don't create this unnecessary
01:00:56.140 stress that I have in my life. I learned to say no more effectively. I put the boundaries in place.
01:01:02.200 I know how I'm going to feel and how I'm going to perform, which I'm not interested in doing. And so I
01:01:06.500 correct the situation after you meet your obligations. Cause what I don't want to have happen
01:01:12.920 is because you're stressed out, you just let everything go. Okay. That's not manly behavior
01:01:17.380 because you made commitments. You made agreements with people. They're relying upon you. So do what
01:01:23.780 you said you're going to do, but don't continue to do that stuff. All right, guys, not sure what's
01:01:29.100 going on with the technology, but we cut out again. So I let Kip go. I think we got through most of the
01:01:34.580 questions that we wanted to. So we'll get the technology on my end worked out. But just wanted
01:01:39.580 to cap this out. Let you guys know, I appreciate you tuning in and listening in. Make sure you share,
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01:01:48.500 restoring masculinity. And let's get after there and, uh, and, and be men. All right, guys, we'll
01:01:53.580 be back, uh, on Friday until then go out there, take action and become the man you are meant to be.
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