Men and The Humanity of Hunting | FRIDAY FIELD NOTES
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In this episode, I discuss the benefits of hunting and why it might actually be better than not hunting at all. I talk about the history of hunting, why hunting is good for the environment, and why we should all get into it.
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When you're taking animals out of the field, they're not genetically altered, they're not
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pumped full of hormones and growth hormones to fetch a higher price for that animal. It's a
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safer, more practical, more sustainable way of consuming your meat. That's part of the reason
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it's so important that we look at why hunting can be so valuable. And not to mention, maybe even at
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some point, depending on populations, being able to sell that meat as opposed to just having to
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Every time I talk about one of my hunting stories or post a picture of one of the hunts, I'm
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inevitably met with a level of vitriol and disdain that continues to astound me. I think there is so
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much misconception around the world of hunting that we generally, for those people who are
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non-hunters, cannot imagine that most hunters, in fact, the overwhelming majority of hunters,
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aren't cruel, heartless killers. In fact, all of the hunters that I know and all of the men that I've
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hunted with are quite antithetical to what I think most non-hunters and those who hate the concept of
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hunting would think. So I wanted to share some things with you. And the reason I wanted to share
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these points that I'm going to address is for a couple of reasons. Number one, for those people
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who are anti-hunting, I really want to shed some light because I don't think it's okay to have an
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opinion without really knowing the data and the facts behind it. Now, some of the things that I'm going
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to share with you, you might not agree with, but this is researched. I spent a lot of time figuring
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out the information and the data behind why hunting actually makes sense and why it might actually be
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better for the ecosystem than not hunting at all. So I do want to explain that. And I think those people
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who are at least open-minded to the idea, not that they have to hunt, but might get some new information
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that will help them be a little bit more informed when they start to share their opinions. The other
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thing that I wanted to share and the reason this is important is because there are a lot of men who
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I hear from every single week at this point who want to get into hunting. And I think sharing this
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will help you understand not only why it's so important, but give you some talking points for
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those people who might not agree with the idea of going out to procure your own meat. I've had two
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conversations in the last day alone from men who want to go hunt, but their wives don't like the
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idea of doing it. So I want to give those type of men and other men the ammo and the information they
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need to be well-informed and also help others understand why it's not a bad thing. In fact,
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it's very, very good according to the data and research for us as human beings to engage in hunting
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practices. So what I'm going to share with you are a few different things, five things in particular,
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and we'll go through each one. And I hope this is not too dry, but I really did some research on
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this subject. So we're going to talk about number one, the cycle of life and the role of homo sapiens.
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Number two, we're going to talk about the decency of an honorable death. Number three, the reverence
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of eating what you kill. And number four, a culture of conservation. So let's just jump right into it.
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The first thing that I want to tell you is that homo sapiens have been hunting for,
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it looks like evidence suggests 2.6 million years. So this is not a new concept. This is not
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something that we haven't been doing forever. There is some conflicting information that suggests
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that maybe we were hunters, maybe we were gatherers, but there's evidence that shows tool marks on bone,
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which means that we were as human beings cutting, breaking down, processing, butchering animals up to
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2.6 million years ago. Now, the common argument is that we've evolved past that. No, we have not
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evolved past that because of the cycle of life. And I'm going to give you some data here shortly.
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One thing I don't want this conversation to be is hunting is good because I like it. Now I do.
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And I think that's a compelling argument, but I want to give you all the data, all the information,
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all the resources that I possibly can. So if you're talking with somebody else, or maybe you're an
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anti-hunter yourself, it's more than just because I like it. But that being said, let me hit on one
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bullet point here, is that this is a tradition. Men learned how to be men through hunting. We raise
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our sons and daughters to go out to procure their own food. The lessons learned, the memories made,
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the experiences had, the skills developed through hunting cannot be overstated. So let's not overlook
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the idea that there's a lot of tradition in the world of hunting. And there's very important skills
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and connections between human beings that are made through hunting processes. So let's talk about the
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reasons and very specific reasons why it's so important that hunters do continue to hunt. I actually put
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into one of an AI, I think it was chat GPT or perplexity. And I said, what would happen if human
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being stopped hunting? And here's what it said. Number one, we'd have population imbalances. We'd
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have habitat destruction. We'd have ecosystem chain reactions. We'd have human to wildlife conflict,
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and we'd have economic and social impacts. So let's break each one of those down. If humans were to stop
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hunting altogether, which is what I think a lot of people advocate for, or eating meat in general,
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what would happen is we would have an overpopulation of certain species, which would then lead to
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overgrazing. It would lead to habitat destruction. Many of these animals would starve and die off.
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And so you'd actually see a lot more death if human beings did not hunt because of overpopulation,
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overgrazing, habitat destruction, you know, not to mention that there's other habitat impacts.
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So if there is overpopulation, then some of these lands that these deer, for example,
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are grazing on or cattle are grazing on are going to impact that habitat and make it difficult for
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birds and insects. Now, usually when people are anti-hunters, they're not anti-insect.
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They'll go squash a spider in their house without thinking twice about it. But when it comes to acute
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furry animal, that's where they take issue. So to me, that's not a very principled argument. That's
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just one of subjectivity. Which animal are you okay with dying and which are you not? But if you're a
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believer that all animals have the sanctity and dignity of life and creation, then it would be safe
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to assume that applies to spiders and insects and birds as well as it does to deer and cow and bears,
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etc. Also, in addition to that, I already said that you'd have human to wildlife conflict. So the
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amount of car accidents that you'd see or predator attacks because of overpopulation would continue
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to skyrocket. And of course, we'd see a lot of humans being injured, hurt and killed. And then of
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course, you have the economic and social impacts. This one is big. There are so many areas that quite
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literally are built on the back of the hunting industry. And you might say, well, that's not a
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good thing. Well, it is a good thing if you scale out and broaden your perspective and look at the
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grand scheme of things. If these areas are impacted socially and economically, then those people are
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going to be in poverty. And if those people are in poverty, we're going to see rising crime rates.
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You'll see lowering quality of life. You'll see a lowering of medical necessities and innovation
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in those areas. And generally, people will be way worse off because of these losses of their
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economic systems. We see this in Africa quite a bit. There's so many people that get frustrated that
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quote unquote wealthy Americans go to Africa to hunt. They're building their economy in South Africa
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and many other places. It's built largely on the back of hunting. And there's no way that those
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people would have access to the things they have without hunters coming and paying to go on those
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hunts. Not to mention, it actually keeps species alive. So the cycle of life is a very real and
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important thing. Again, we don't want to have this overpopulation, habitat destruction, starvation,
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these chain reactions that would take place. We are the apex predator. Human beings are at the top of
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the food chain. And you are in the food chain, whether you want to be or not. We don't get to
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absolve ourselves of it. Now, we can do this ethically, and we can do this responsibly, and we
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should. And I'll talk more about that. But let's not pretend that we get to excuse ourselves from the
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cycle of life. Let's talk about the next point, the decency of an honorable death. Again, I did some more
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research, and I'll get into why killing animals in the field is significantly better across a lot of
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different metrics than, for example, the slaughterhouse. But there is one elephant in the
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room that I want to address, and that's trophy hunting. Every time I talk about hunting, people
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say, I don't like trophy hunting. Now, I usually ask what trophy hunting means to them because there's
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a common misconception that people just go around and just shoot animals, chop their heads off, and
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throw them on the wall and leave the meat there. Now, some people do that. It's relatively few, and
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that's called poaching. It's highly illegal, and ethical hunters do not condone that behavior. In
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fact, we hate that behavior because it creates more problems for us, and it has a negative impact
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on nature and the wildlife, which is important to us. So that's already illegal. Now, one thing I will
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say about trophy hunting because there's another definition of it, and that means to take the
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biggest, largest, most mature animal, kill it, take the meat, take the hide, take the organs, and then
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keep the mount, the rack, the head, etc. Now, some people think this is grotesque and horrible, and I'm
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here to tell you, again, humans have been doing this for millions of years. Usually what happens is that
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a hunter or hunters goes out. The entire village doesn't go out. A hunter or hunters goes out, a
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select few. They kill a few animals. They bring those animals back to the village, and they give the
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meat to the village so everybody can eat, and they'll usually keep a memory or memento of the hunt. This
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could be the rack. This could be the claws of a predator. It could be the backskin and hide, and then
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they'll use it as a quote-unquote trophy. And that word is where people really get hung up. But what I
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want you to know is it's not just about having this trophy. It's what it signifies. And again, for
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millions of years, humans have been using hides, for example, for blankets or decorative clothing for
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ritualistic ceremonies and dances. This is not a new concept. And so some people will get very upset that
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hunters go out, spend money, and then donate the food and don't even eat it themselves. Humans have
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been doing that forever because not everybody is a hunter. And by the way, I don't think everybody
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needs to hunt. I do think that most men ought to experience it in some way and maybe even try it for
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themselves, but I don't think it's something that you have to do. It's just a practice that I think you
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might actually find a lot of value and improve quality of life from. So let's get over the idea of
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trophy hunting the way that most people say it. It's already illegal to cut the head off of an
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animal or cut the rack off of an animal, throw it in your truck, drive home, and leave the rest of the
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meat there. You'll be prosecuted. You'll face heavy penalties and potentially even prison sentences for
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behavior like that, which I think is good. We don't want that behavior. If somebody goes out to kill an
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animal, they ought to find the biggest, largest, most mature animal they can because that's the animal
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that has lived the longest, has lived the best life, has had the opportunity to pass down its genetics
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through breeding. And that then animal needs to be taken from the herd. So the younger males can come
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in and you're going to see a healthier, more robust, more genetically diverse species when that takes
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place. So outside of that, I want to talk about the decency of an honorable death. So if we're going
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to compare the two, which is what most people will look at, hunting, is that better? Or is a slaughterhouse
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better? I think instinctively, intuitively, we would all agree that hunting is more, is better
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on a different, a lot of different levels than the slaughterhouse. So here's why. Number one, quality of
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life. The quality of life of an animal out in the field in nature is obviously significantly better than
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an animal that's been bred inside of a very confined, very regulated barn or stall or wherever it might
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be housed. So the quality of life is going to be better for that animal in nature. Now the nature of
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death, also, you can make a case that an animal is going to be less stressed, less bothered if a hunter
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goes out and makes an ethical shot. And that's what hunters try to do. Doesn't always work out like
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that. I've made bad shots and I made great shots. But a hunter will go out and attempt to make an
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ethical shot. An ethical shot means that you're hitting the animal in the vitals. And if you hit
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the animal in the vitals, the heart, the lungs, the brain, potentially even the spleen, that animal is
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going to die quickly with relatively low and minimal stress compared to an animal that's going into the
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slaughterhouse to be killed. The next is food safety and the economic impact. Okay. Obviously, when you're
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taking animals out of the field, they're not genetically altered. They're not pumped full of hormones and
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these different chemicals and growth hormones to fetch a higher price for that animal. It's a safer,
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more practical, more sustainable way of consuming your meat. So that's part of the reason it's so
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important that we look at why hunting can be so valuable. And not to mention, maybe even at some
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point, depending on populations, being able to sell that meat as opposed to just having to
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buy beef that was, you know, factory farmed. There's a lot more other ways to do it. There's
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sustainable ways. There's organic farming. There's a lot of that, but I'm just comparing hunting to
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the slaughterhouse. And then of course, you know, there's, there's the economic impact as well. So
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hunters pour literally billions of dollars into conservation efforts in the U S and we'll talk
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about that. So the third component I want to talk with you about is the reverence of eating what you
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kill. I looked up some data on this. This was very interesting. I had no idea, but the animals that
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are killed in slaughterhouses usually lose anywhere from about 11.9% to just under 20% of the usable meat
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is just wasted. It's wasted in trim. It's wasted in inefficient techniques, and it's just thrown away.
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Now, I'm not going to tell you that isn't the case with hunting, but what I will tell you is that
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as a hunter and everybody that I've been out with tries to maximize meat consumption, because if
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you're going to go out and you're going to spend days and weeks, and you're going to spend hundreds
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and thousands of dollars and all of your time and effort and energy into harvesting an animal,
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you are going to be a lot more concerned with taking every little bit of meat that you can and using it.
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And not to mention the hide, the organs, and everything else that is usable in different
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ways, even the bones to make bone broth from. So you're not going to see that in a slaughterhouse.
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I also looked at this. Humans waste 219 to 325 pounds per year of food. Now, that's not just meat,
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but just food in general. And that represents roughly 30 to 40 percent of the food supply
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is food waste. 30 to 40 percent of the food supply in the United States is just waste. It's food that
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we're not eating. And this is what I found really interesting, because a lot of the times when you
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have non-hunters, or I should say anti-hunters, because that's different. Non-hunters just haven't
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done it or aren't interested. Anti-hunters don't want people hunting at all. Usually, you're going
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to find that these people are going to be, at least they're going to say that they're more interested
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in green resources, greenhouse emissions, inefficiencies, that sort of thing. And what I
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found is that if we continue to waste food at the level that we are, here's what happens.
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Greenhouse gas emissions will increase. Roughly 8 percent of greenhouse gas emissions comes from
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food waste. That's wild to me. Of course, there's the resource waste. So taking that food, using
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water, depleting minerals from the ground, also using land that doesn't need to be used in order to
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create more and more food that we're just not going to consume. And then not to mention the
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land degradation. You start pulling water from all these resources, all of the chemicals, and well,
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I should say all of the minerals that are stripped away from the land, all the chemicals that are
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introduced into the land, for 30 to 40 percent of our food consumption that we're not even going to
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utilize. So what a waste. And obviously then there's just waste volume. Landfills, the amount of resources
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that needs to go into maintaining these landfills, what that does to the land itself. It's actually a
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really, really horrible practice that we waste 30 to 40 percent of our food. I remember when I was young,
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my mom would always say, if I left food on the plate, they're starving people in China. Well,
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it's actually worse than that. And here's the data behind it. Again, 30 to 40 percent of food supply
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is waste, increased greenhouse gas emissions, resource waste, land degradation, and just the
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waste volume, the sheer volume of waste alone. Now I'm telling you that you might be wondering why
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I'm telling you that when it comes to hunting, because you're not going to have that level of
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waste when it comes to hunting. Those animals are in nature. They're doing their thing. They're living
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their lives. They're living off the land. We're not pouring any resources into ensuring that they're
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getting the right nutrients and they're pumped full of hormones. And we're not putting up buildings and
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things like that to get in the way in order to raise these animals. So nature is sustaining. It's a
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sustainable resource as long as we protect it and we do our part. I'm going to talk about that here in a
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minute. So we're not going to have nearly the same level of waste if we use and embrace hunting as a
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more common practice relative to factory farming, big agricultural things. It creates a mess for food
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that we're just not even going to use. All right. And the last thing, and I think this might be the most
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important argument for people that are anti-hunter. It's a culture of conservation. Usually people think
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again, if they're anti-hunting, that hunters are cold-blooded killers, that we don't care about
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nature. We have no reverence or respect for animals and, and God's creation, no respect at all.
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And I'm just here to tell you that is completely false. It's, it's so wildly inaccurate. I'm not even
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sure why people believe it, but let's get to some data here. So hunters, and again, I used a chat GPT
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and perplexity to figure out some of this data, but hunters have contributed in, in the U S $2.5
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billion, $2.5 billion towards conservation efforts. Okay. 1.1 billion of that comes in the form of
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excise taxes on firearms, ammunition, and archery equipment. Many people don't know that, that there
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is an excise tax. I don't know if it's in every state or if this is a federal tax. I should look at
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that. I don't know that right offhand, but I can find that data out later. But most people don't
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know that hunters are actually spending more money than those people who say they're conservationists.
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We put our money where our mouth is. 1.1 billion in excise taxes on firearms, ammunition, and archery
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equipment. Another billion is spent on licenses. So you have over $2 billion alone in excise taxes on
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firearms, ammunition, and archery equipment, and then $1 billion spent, over $1 billion on licenses.
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Now, here's what else hunters do outside of the money that they contribute to the system. Number one,
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population management. We already addressed that in the first thing. When I talked about the cycle of
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life, we talked about the dangers of overpopulation. Well, hunters manage the population and we do it in a
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regulated way. Now, it's not always done right, but every state has a wildlife department, game wardens,
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but it's a department that is designed to manage and regulate wildlife populations and nature. So
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we manage the population well because we want it to continue to be there. Number two, habitat preservation
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and restoration. Let me give you an example. Not too long ago, within the last couple of months,
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Senator Mike Lee from Utah introduced a bill to sell off between two and three million dollars,
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or excuse me, million acres of public lands. It was largely hunters who pushed back on that and said,
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we don't want our land sold to developers and individuals who are just going to keep that land
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or build it out. We want to maintain that land for public use. Those were hunters doing that.
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And the hunting community pushed so hard and so far back on Senator Mike Lee with this bill
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that they eventually dropped the bill because it was so unpopular and just a horrible, horrible thing to
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do with our lands. This is a great example of how hunters preserve habitat and not to mention
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restoration. So you can take areas that maybe were over farmed or areas that have never been usable
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and hunt, it's hunters who go in and build those lands up and have access to water and, and make sure
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those, those lands are sustainable for wildlife so that they can eventually go in and hunt, not only
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for themselves, but for future generations. And the last thing that I thought here that made sense to me
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when it comes to a culture of conservation is that hunters are monitoring and reporting on what is
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going well, what is not going well, who's creating problems, who isn't, where there is illegal activity,
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et cetera, et cetera. Donnie Vincent, a friend of mine who's been on the podcast a couple of times now,
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says something to the effect, and I'm paraphrasing, that you can't fix a problem unless you're close to
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the problem. And so you can't fix a problem with nature and wildlife and hunting and animal
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preservation. If you're over here on your high horse and you're looking out from somewhere that
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the activity is not going on, it, you have to be in it in order to solve the problems. And that's
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what hunters are. And that's what hunters are doing. So I've, I hope that gives you some insight.
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So if you're, if you're a hunter, now you have more ammo to be able to have intelligent,
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rational conversations with people who are anti-hunting. And if you are anti-hunting or maybe
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even just skeptical about why this is so prevalent or what's the big deal. Now, hopefully through this
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information, you have a little bit better idea of why hunting is so valuable above and beyond
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because I like it, because it's fun, because I enjoy it. All of those things are probably true for most
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hunters, but this is the information that I think people need to see and hear and read in order to
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think differently about a practice that human beings have been engaging in for millions of years.
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This is not a problem. It's not unethical. It's not immoral. In fact, if anything, according to this
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data and this information I gave you today, it's actually very helpful, very ethical, and part of our
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moral duty and responsibility as an evolved species, human beings. I hope that helps. Let me just recap
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here. Again, we talked about the cycle of life and homo sapiens. We talked about how long human beings
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have been hunting and population imbalances and chain reactions and habitat impacts. We also talked
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about the decency of an honorable death. We talked about the reverence of eating what you kill and
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specifically why it's so horrible that human beings are wasting 30 to 40% of their food consumption
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and what that does to the world, the planet, greenhouse gas emissions, resource waste, land
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degradation, and wasted volume. And then last, we talked about the culture of conservation. It's
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important stuff, guys. I hope this helps. I deviated a little bit from what we normally talk about, but
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I do think if you're a hunter, I'm glad that you are. If you're not a hunter, maybe you ought to try it.
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If you're anti-hunting, maybe you ought to open your mind to the idea that it's not as bad as you
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think it is or that you make it out to be. If you do want to get into hunting, and I'll give you this
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as I part, a couple of things. Number one, find a friend who hunts. You might already have a friend
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in your circle who is a hunter who already hunts, and if that's the case, ask them to go on a hunt
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with them. Now, you might not hunt yourself, but you can help them find animals, you can help them break
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it down, and you can see what hunting is all about without having to get your hands dirty, so to
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speak. The other thing that you might want to do is to go on a high success hunt, a private hunt,
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something that you purchase, like a hog hunt, or a turkey hunt, or a deer hunt, or maybe even,
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you know, something like going to Africa and hunting there. I probably wouldn't suggest that as your first
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hunt, but it's an option. If you go on a high success hunt with people who do it professionally,
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the odds of you being able to harvest an animal are high, and you'll get to see the entire process
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from stalking, and sitting, and finding them, to shooting one, to breaking it down, to eating it.
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There's a really great resource a friend of mine, Greg Ray, owns. It's called From Field to Table,
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fromfieldtotable.com. They've got hunts all over the country every single year, so check that out.
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And the last thing you could do is you could go do it yourself. You can go to your local
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wildlife management department, whatever they might call that in your state, and figure out
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where you can hunt, figure out what you can hunt, figure out what the seasons are, get the licensing.
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That's infinitely harder, especially if you've never done it, but the option is there. So there's
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three ways you can get into hunting, and also, if you have any additional questions, you can email me,
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ryanatorderofman.com, and the subject line, put hunting. ryanatorderofman.com, in the subject line,
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put hunting. I'll get you some more information. All right, guys, that's all I've got. I will be
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back next week. Until then, go out there, take action, consider getting into hunting, and become
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