Order of Man - NICK FREITAS ｜ Why Modern Men Are Deflated, and What to Do About It

00:00:00.140 In a world that profits from our confusion, real clarity is actually an act of rebellion.

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00:00:08.540 Today we're sitting down with a man who has spent his entire life in the arena as a soldier,

00:00:14.460 a statesman, and a straight talker to cut through the noise on masculinity, actual truth

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00:00:23.420 His name is Nick Freitas.

00:00:25.040 We're talking about logical fallacies, the Marxist oppressor, oppressed framework.

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00:01:31.640 Ned, welcome to the Order of Man podcast.

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00:02:52.620 with that said, let me get to my guest today. His name is Nick Freitas. He is a U.S. Army Special

00:02:58.020 Forces veteran. He's a Green Beret. He's also a former Virginia State legislator and probably one

00:03:04.760 of the most, I think, compelling communicators in the conservative movement today. And there's a lot,

00:03:11.620 but he is at the top. He's known for his razor sharp reasoning, his willingness to engage in

00:03:18.800 some of the hardest cultural questions head on. And he's built a reputation as a man who doesn't

00:03:24.200 just talk about principles. He actually lives them. He's also the author of his newest book,

00:03:28.360 The Man Book, a point by point guide to sucking it up and getting the job done, which might just be

00:03:34.300 the greatest subtitle ever created. It's also a book that John Lovell, a former guest and friend

00:03:41.220 of mine lovingly called the worst coloring book ever. We talk about that today. He's also a

00:03:46.980 passionate advocate for sovereignty, for political freedom, for honorable masculinity. So whether

00:03:53.600 he's dismantling some of the logical fallacies that we go through today on the floor of the

00:03:58.480 Virginia House of Delegates or helping guys like you and me find meaning and purpose and identity

00:04:04.800 outside of this common victim narrative, Nick brings the same warrior discipline to every fight.

00:04:12.540 He's a husband, he's a father, he's a Christian, and he's a man who believes God blesses faithful,

00:04:19.100 even if it's imperfect, attempts at being better. He is not here to diagnose you. We talk about that

00:04:25.080 today. He's here to challenge you, and all of us as men need a good, righteous challenge. Enjoy.

00:04:30.660 nick what's going on man so great to have you back on the podcast no thanks for having me back

00:04:37.040 brother i appreciate it of course it's amazing how um news just travels at the the speed of 0.56

00:04:42.920 light and you think you know just when we couldn't get any dumber or less masculine or just less

00:04:48.380 decent to each other something else happens in the news and we realize well it can only get worse i

00:04:52.960 guess yeah yeah never never underestimate the uh the possibility of it getting worse

00:04:58.340 yeah what do you what do you think is just going on I know this is a 30,000 foot view question but

00:05:03.980 what do you think is just going on with the world in general from politics to culture to family are

00:05:11.340 there some underlying themes that you see are happening yeah I well the thing that we've been

00:05:16.140 watching happen for some time it's just what what happened is it kind of escaped the academic

00:05:21.760 enclaves and you know the the different rooms in Hollywood and made it into kind of broader

00:05:27.360 our culture, especially within our school system and everything else, was just kind of this

00:05:30.840 questioning. It's kind of this postmodernist questioning of truth, questioning of meta

00:05:35.880 narratives and all of that good stuff. And really, it's a rejection of faith, but more specifically,

00:05:41.500 it's a rejection of Christianity. And it's this idea that self-actualization, if you look at

00:05:47.680 Maslow's hierarchy of needs, right, self-actualization was on the top. That's what's

00:05:52.580 most important. And so how do you determine whether or not you've achieved self-actualization?

00:05:57.120 Well, you get to decide that. You get to decide that. And I think when we look at it within the

00:06:02.520 context of a worldview where we respect that there's such a thing as reality, we respect

00:06:07.760 there's such a thing as truth. There's not your truth or my truth. There's the truth and you and

00:06:12.420 I have different perspectives on it. And maybe by talking and discussing and going through rigorous

00:06:16.940 debate or argumentation, we can arrive at the truth. But when you reject all that, as postmodernism

00:06:23.240 does and you and you act like whatever you identify as whatever's most important to you

00:06:28.500 and how you feel about you that's that's the thing that matters and then you add on top of that

00:06:35.160 this kind of marxist framework with respect to oppressor and oppressed now it's this whole idea

00:06:41.600 well if you fall into certain categories you're automatically an oppressor you don't you didn't

00:06:45.200 have to do anything you didn't have to you know hurt anyone you're automatically an oppressor

00:06:49.320 And if you fall into other categories, you're automatically oppressed, which means you're the victim, which means we owe you something.

00:06:56.300 And so imagine a world where we're simultaneously saying, yeah, there's no such thing as objective truth.

00:07:01.120 It's all just you invent your own reality and you invent your own feelings and identity.

00:07:04.800 And that is entirely up to you.

00:07:07.220 We can't use any outside facts or evidence about biology or reality in order to constrain you.

00:07:13.560 and then create these two conditions where in one condition you're automatically a bad guy

00:07:19.160 and another condition you're automatically a good guy and that's that's kind of a recipe for

00:07:23.240 disaster uh and that's why i think we see so many people dealing with an identity crisis there's a

00:07:28.000 lot of people that thought well if we could just absolve ourselves of this idea that there's

00:07:31.940 objective right or wrong or there's objective truth and now you kind of get to do what you want

00:07:36.740 and the only real virtue is be tolerant just be tolerant if you're tolerant you're a virtuous

00:07:40.480 person. Um, this is what it leads to people have an identity crisis because that's not,

00:07:45.840 that's not reality. Reality is there is right and wrong. There is good and evil. There is truth and

00:07:50.660 lies. And it doesn't matter how much you wish it wasn't. So, um, you know, that's the way it is.

00:07:58.860 And it's not liberating to, to, to attempt to ignore reality. It's not liberating. They think

00:08:04.540 it's going to be, but it isn't what's liberating is when you finally realize that, okay, there is

00:08:09.060 such a thing as truth or such a thing as right and wrong. And now what my job is, is trying to

00:08:12.740 figure out what that is, regardless of what my personal preferences might be. I want to get my

00:08:18.120 thinking in line with the truth, not demand that reality bend to my will. And, and that's kind of

00:08:25.760 a long explanation, but I think it, I think it explains a lot about, about what's going on in

00:08:30.660 society as a whole and why, and why one of the main reasons that masculinity was targeted is

00:08:36.780 because it's really hard to pull off that level of nonsense when you have a society of godly,

00:08:43.620 confident men that are like, yeah, no, that's not true. And that's not true. And I'm not

00:08:47.660 accepted and I'm not playing your game. Right. When, when the men decide the jig is up, the jig

00:08:51.940 is up. Um, and that's why there's been such a concerted effort to convince men that they don't

00:08:56.100 have a role or that they're bad or that the future is female and their job is just to sit down and 0.98

00:09:00.180 shut up. It's not because men are not powerful. It's because we are. I actually had a little, 0.95

00:09:06.200 a little interesting interaction on instagram the other day and i was talking about uh what we would

00:09:12.520 refer to currently as traditional gender roles and a guy a therapist a licensed therapist said

00:09:18.160 well you know it isn't until the relative ease of modernity that we actually acknowledge

00:09:22.740 traditional gender roles i said no no no no no we've we've it isn't until the ease of modernity

00:09:29.200 that we've called it that but those gender roles have been on the books for literally thousands of

00:09:34.800 years and only because of modern times do we now call it into question and he talked about my

00:09:41.200 credentials and why he's better and more credentialed and the guy has credentials well he has his and

00:09:46.740 her in his uh pronouns in his bio i'm like part of me if i don't take you seriously regardless of

00:09:54.640 your credentials if you can't even acknowledge that there's boys and there's girls there's men

00:09:59.720 and there's women and there's nothing in between. Yeah. Well, appeal to credentials is the last

00:10:05.780 bastion of a failed argument, right? So you were correct. What he was stating was the inverse of

00:10:12.280 reality. From the dawn of human history, we kind of understood these various roles that were played

00:10:18.860 predominantly by men and women. That's why we call them masculine traits versus feminine traits,

00:10:24.240 right? When they use the word masculinity, they're referring to something and that something

00:10:29.560 is the long tradition that we've had

00:10:32.160 with respect to why do men behave in certain ways?

00:10:34.820 Why do they fulfill certain functions within society? 0.89

00:10:38.000 And why do women fill other functions within society? 1.00

00:10:41.500 The only thing that happened with modernity 1.00

00:10:43.220 is exactly what you said.

00:10:44.520 We reached such a level of security and prosperity

00:10:47.860 and ease with respect to labor

00:10:49.960 that all of a sudden there were entire categories

00:10:52.800 of occupations and activities that were suddenly opened up

00:10:56.720 or became more accessible to females

00:10:58.840 because the labor component wasn't as difficult, right?

00:11:02.220 Match that with, we have a bunch of ideas going around

00:11:05.200 about equality of human beings,

00:11:07.900 which again, I support equality before the law.

00:11:10.540 I support equality before God

00:11:12.120 in the sense that we're all created in the image of God

00:11:14.040 and have inherent value as such.

00:11:16.860 But this idea that you pointed out the obvious, right?

00:11:20.000 It's like, no, for all of human history,

00:11:21.880 we understood these things.

00:11:23.960 We may not have written them down

00:11:25.420 in the ways that we do now, but these were understood.

00:11:28.280 That's why we, that's why we have something to reference and for him to then retreat into, well, look at my credentials and I went to school and I went, this is another problem that I have with academia and especially modern academia is that they honestly believe, like I, I, I think the left and Gramsci, Antonio Gramsci talks about this.

00:11:47.380 He was a socialist in Italy in the thirties.

00:11:50.380 If you, if you want to gain prominence within a culture, what you do is you hijack the culturally shaping institutions within that culture.

00:11:56.940 so why do we why do we generally look at academia with a certain degree of respect well for centuries

00:12:02.640 what higher education meant was that you had a great deal of access to not only knowledge

00:12:07.920 but rigorous debate and it was expected that you were going to use things like the laws of logic

00:12:13.400 in order to analyze evidence and come to reasonable conclusions well that's why things like this yes

00:12:19.600 yes socratic method the scientific method linear thinking that's why getting that degree mattered

00:12:25.060 That's why that credential was supposed to mean that you were capable of putting together an intellectually honest, consistent, and coherent argument. 0.53

00:12:33.360 But if you take over those institutions and all of a sudden you kick all that crap out, because after all, linear thinking is an attribute of whiteness, and you replace it with nonsense, well, yeah, you still have the credential from Harvard or wherever.

00:12:46.380 It's just the credential doesn't mean what it used to because you threw out the valuable things that gave the credential meaning.

00:12:51.440 and so now you're referring now you expect me you've now taken academia you're running around 0.85

00:12:56.880 wearing out like a skin suit spewing nonsense and you want me to give it the same relevance

00:13:02.120 and consideration that i did back when it wasn't nonsense well i'm not going to because that's 0.99

00:13:07.340 absurd well i had i actually had in the same little debate there i had another woman hype up

00:13:14.060 and she said well i'm gonna believe this guy because he's a licensed therapist and also here's

00:13:19.560 what she said i have two science degrees and i have been in the medicine and public health space

00:13:28.300 for 10 years and so i messaged her back i said that's interesting tell me what science degrees

00:13:33.600 you have and tell me your scope of work in the public space and medicine for the past 10 years

00:13:38.080 and she wrote back well i'm not going to give any identifying information to strangers on the

00:13:43.500 internet. I said, okay, I know your science degrees are worthless and your 10 years of public

00:13:50.180 health service or whatever is nonsense. You sure didn't have a problem piping up before I called

00:13:55.880 you out. Why do you have a problem now? Yeah. Well, and that's just it, right? It was, I want

00:14:01.080 to give you some sort of vague, again, what do I want to present? I don't want to present an

00:14:04.800 argument. I'm going to present credentials and the credentials are supposed to get you to shut up.

00:14:09.760 And when you don't shut up or you require evidence, which is what we used to do in places like higher education is require elaboration and evidence in order to prove that your statement was true.

00:14:19.220 Instead, they want to engage in an appeal to authority fallacy.

00:14:22.340 And you would think all these highly educated people would have taken an introductory class into logic because they would have instantly realized that that's an appeal to authority fallacy.

00:14:31.780 now it's it's not bad to point out hey here's my experience here's what i've done here are my

00:14:37.320 credentials and that's what leads me to believe x but once you state x that's what's on the table

00:14:43.200 we now get to debate x and if your argument's wrong or it's flawed or your evidence is not

00:14:48.140 analyzed properly or it wasn't gathered properly or whatever else all right i don't need your

00:14:53.480 credentials in order to demonstrate what's faulty about your argument and the moment you use your

00:14:58.860 credentials to try to cover up the flaws in your argument, that's an appeal to authority fallacy.

00:15:05.480 So again, it's comical how, and here's what they really don't understand, and this part's

00:15:10.740 important. I want to be able to look at that credential and be like, oh, that has meaning.

00:15:17.260 I want to be able to look at the opinion from someone that spent a great deal of time within

00:15:21.500 a particular field of study, and I want to be able to say, oh, okay, yes, I should be able to

00:15:26.340 trust that they both have a sufficient amount of knowledge and a submission of a sufficient

00:15:33.260 amount of experience in logically analyzing the information in order to arrive at good

00:15:38.660 conclusions.

00:15:39.440 But when they do stuff like that, it doesn't just cause me to question the study they've

00:15:44.160 referenced.

00:15:44.600 It doesn't just cause me to question them.

00:15:46.560 It causes me to question the very institutions that keep credentialing them.

00:15:50.620 how do you how do you reconcile this idea of the appeal to authority fallacy with what i see a lot

00:15:58.480 of christians do which is appeal to authority and so they'll have arguments and i'm a christian but

00:16:04.580 i think it's important we discuss this is they'll have arguments based on what the bible says or

00:16:09.120 what god says or what the commandments are which again i believe but if you're debating that with

00:16:14.900 somebody who doesn't believe in that authority or doesn't give it the credit that that it deserves

00:16:19.360 that's a, that's a losing battle. It's almost as if they're engaging in the same behavior we're

00:16:23.800 talking about now. It's so that's, what's called the epistemological question. So essentially

00:16:28.700 epistemology is the study of, you know, how do you know what you know? It's the study of knowledge.

00:16:33.260 And the thing that all of us have to recognize is that on some level, whatever your foundational

00:16:37.880 worldview is, there's going to be a circular component to that, right? Because you can't

00:16:42.880 have an infinite regression of appealing to something. So it's not that appealing to an

00:16:48.300 authority figure is bad in and of itself, it becomes a fallacy when it's not a justified appeal

00:16:54.480 or what you're doing is you're using the authority figure as opposed to the argument within a

00:16:59.540 particular standpoint. Got it. But, but even that, but if you think about it, even that is an appeal

00:17:04.420 to what? Isn't it an appeal to logic? Okay. Well, then is logic the final authority? Well, no, it

00:17:08.740 can't be right. Because if, if logic's the final authority, what is logic and who, who developed

00:17:13.380 with the rules were around logic. So what we try to do is a couple of things. One, we have things

00:17:19.100 that are self-attesting. So when we look at things like the law of non-contradiction or the law of

00:17:23.780 identity or the law of the excluded middle, these are commonly referred to as the laws of logic.

00:17:28.260 We say that insofar as we use these in reality, they generally get us to good results. So that's

00:17:34.400 something of an inductive argument, which is to say that the evidence is high, that if we use

00:17:38.820 these tools, they tend to work. But when we get into overall questions about what is the source

00:17:44.840 of truth, what is the source of meaning, what is the source of purpose, there's going to be some

00:17:50.160 element of we can't know in the sense that we can know two plus two is four, or we can't know in

00:17:56.480 the sense that I can engage in experiments in the same way that I would like if I turn my key into

00:18:02.960 the ignition and I turn it forward, my car is going to go on. Why do I know that? Well, because

00:18:07.120 it happened every other time. That's an inductive argument. So, so the real question is, is with any

00:18:13.680 religion and I'm going to use Christianity because that's the one I subscribe to. Jesus came down and

00:18:18.720 he made certain claims about who he was, right? He made certain claims of what he was, what he was

00:18:23.740 there to do. I am the way, the truth and life. No one comes to the father, but by me, he compared

00:18:27.900 himself to, he put himself on, on a, on a footing with God. That's where we get the whole concept

00:18:32.320 of the Trinity with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He told Pontius Pilate, for this reason I was born

00:18:37.980 and this reason I came to attest to the truth. All those on the side of truth, listen to me.

00:18:41.880 So these are some of the claims that he made. Now you can either believe those claims or you

00:18:46.860 can disregard those claims. Now the question would be is like, okay, what did he offer as

00:18:50.960 evidence of those claims? Well, he offered a couple of things. One was referencing back to

00:18:54.700 prophecy within scripture. So he references back to the Old Testament. That was a reference here,

00:19:00.040 here, here, here, and here, right? He talks about that. The other thing that he did is he provided

00:19:05.860 miracles. And this is also something I think is interesting. I once had an atheist friend

00:19:10.080 tell me that he couldn't believe in the Bible because it referenced miracles. And he believes

00:19:14.440 that miracles are basically mumbo jumbo and it can't exist. And I asked him like, okay,

00:19:18.760 what would you accept as evidence of God's existence? And he goes, well, God would have

00:19:22.840 to come down and tell me right to my face that he's God. And I said, okay, cool. I'm God. And

00:19:28.060 he looked at me weird. I said, well, that's what you required, right? I just met, I just met your

00:19:31.380 standard for truth. You required God to stand in front of you and say, and tell you he's God. Well,

00:19:37.560 I'm standing in front of him, look in the eye, I'm using words you can understand and I'm telling

00:19:40.520 you I'm God. So now you believe in me and you're going to worship me, right? And he goes, well,

00:19:44.680 no, of course not. I said, well, what would I have to do is we'd have to do something miraculous.

00:19:49.520 So, so let me get this straight. Your, your, now your new test for God is he has to do something

00:19:54.620 which demonstrates his power over space, time, and the laws of nature, right?

00:20:00.200 But the moment that's referenced, you now use it to disregard his existence.

00:20:04.560 That's a contradiction.

00:20:06.080 So which is it, right?

00:20:07.840 So my point of saying all of this is it's real simple.

00:20:12.360 If you believe, and humans all behave as if there is objective truth and objective morality.

00:20:17.500 We all behave that way regardless of what we say. 0.99

00:20:20.460 Anybody that says there's no such thing as objective truth, punch him in the face and take his wallet.

00:20:23.960 And I guarantee you he's going to have some very objective opinions about what just happened, right? 0.96

00:20:28.760 I mean it's pretty easy to test.

00:20:31.680 All you have to do is put the opposing political party in power and let them make rules.

00:20:35.680 And all of a sudden their idea of morality changes even though the government is the final say on what is right and what is not in their mind.

00:20:43.020 Yeah.

00:20:43.300 So one of the most important things about Christianity is that you have God interacting with – someone claiming to be God interacting with humans.

00:20:49.680 First, you have it with God the Father, with the interactions with Abraham, with Moses,

00:20:54.480 et cetera.

00:20:54.860 Then you also have it with Christ.

00:20:57.480 And when we reference scripture, there's a couple of ways that we can do this.

00:21:00.920 The Christian is not referencing scripture as a final authority without any sort of way

00:21:05.680 to check that. 0.96

00:21:06.520 Now, by definition, God's word has to self-attest.

00:21:11.540 It has to actually defend itself because what's the ultimate source of truth and reality?

00:21:16.520 It's the one who created it.

00:21:18.160 So it's God.

00:21:18.940 Well, like, well, you're using God to prove God.

00:21:21.160 That's because that's the only thing that can prove it, right?

00:21:23.560 I can't point to something else.

00:21:25.640 Yeah, I can't point to something else that God made and say, no, no, this is the thing

00:21:30.000 that justifies God, right?

00:21:31.280 That's also a fallacy.

00:21:33.680 So the real question you have to ask yourself is, okay, based off of what I know about logic,

00:21:38.260 based off of what I know about the human condition, based off of what I know about

00:21:41.220 the desire for meaning, purpose, love, companionship, et cetera, what does Christianity have to

00:21:47.200 say about that?

00:21:47.860 And this is the part where I think it becomes very obvious, at least to me, is that one, when you look at Scripture, it opens itself up to investigation and to criticism, which is to say that it makes actual statements that you can verify in history about what happened.

00:22:04.280 It's not making a bunch of random claims in a different world that you can never check against reality.

00:22:09.680 You can check it against reality, and it's the most carefully scrutinized and analyzed book in all of human history.

00:22:15.660 Then you look at the truth claims of Jesus Christ.

00:22:17.680 Did he claim to be God?

00:22:18.800 Yes.

00:22:19.100 Did he claim to be the way, the truth, and life?

00:22:20.800 Yes.

00:22:21.460 Okay, do I believe those claims?

00:22:22.940 And if I do, why?

00:22:23.980 Well, again, I already talked about

00:22:25.140 there's the prophetic component.

00:22:26.500 There's also the miraculous component.

00:22:28.220 The other thing that's often cited as evidence

00:22:29.880 by people like Lee Strobel is there's this idea

00:22:32.600 that if the disciples who knew Christ intimately

00:22:34.920 were aware of his crucifixion

00:22:36.620 and then were aware of his resurrection,

00:22:37.960 if they didn't really believe it

00:22:39.100 or they're just trying to set up a cult,

00:22:40.860 what would be the reason to do that?

00:22:42.680 They were all either killed or imprisoned

00:22:44.460 as a result of claiming this, right? 0.73

00:22:46.720 So if they knew it was garbage, if they knew it was a lie, why would they dedicate the rest of their lives to actually pushing it, especially when it didn't enrich them in the least bit? 0.95

00:22:54.780 It killed them, right? 0.98

00:22:55.820 It doesn't make sense.

00:22:57.800 So when you look at all these truth claims, that's where, again, for me as a thinking person, I say this makes sense to me.

00:23:04.480 Here's the last thing I will say from a philosophical position on why I think Christianity makes so much sense.

00:23:09.020 if you ask anybody regardless of kind of where they they stand they tend to they tend to hold up

00:23:15.680 three things that they value greatly one is their individual sovereignty or what you might call their

00:23:20.860 freedom one is the concept of love or a deeply held emotional connection to another person

00:23:27.020 and the third is justice the idea that something correct has been done or something incorrect has

00:23:31.860 been punished now if you look at the way God created human beings let's look at the whole

00:23:37.300 concept of love. You have Adam and Eve in the garden, right? He creates them there and he gives

00:23:42.080 them one rule. Why does he give them one rule? Keep in mind, everything else that they need is

00:23:46.760 actually met, is met right there. They have it. They have companionship with each other. They

00:23:50.760 have companionship with God. They have a perfect environment. Their needs are met. They have

00:23:54.240 creative and productive work to do, but it's not onerous. It's, again, it's creative in nature.

00:23:59.800 It's something they enjoy. And then they get one rule. The reason why the one rule had to exist

00:24:06.140 is because can you really have genuine love

00:24:09.220 if somebody doesn't have the option to reject it?

00:24:11.940 No, it's not love, it's just compliance.

00:24:14.460 There you go, there you go, right?

00:24:16.220 So what did God have to do

00:24:17.560 in order to experience genuine companionship and love?

00:24:21.340 He had to provide freedom.

00:24:23.080 He had to have the freedom

00:24:24.200 to be able to reject what God had created.

00:24:27.680 So he demonstrates love by his provision.

00:24:30.960 He gives you freedom in order

00:24:32.560 so that you can love him back,

00:24:33.940 but he also gives you a choice to violate it.

00:24:36.140 And then what do we do?

00:24:37.120 Well, we know the story, right?

00:24:37.940 We violate it.

00:24:38.720 And then we continue to violate it, right?

00:24:40.160 We continue to violate.

00:24:41.300 So now there's an injustice done.

00:24:43.060 Well, if God is love and God is just,

00:24:45.460 he can't just say, nevermind, right?

00:24:48.320 Because he says, ah, nevermind.

00:24:49.580 Well, then it really wasn't a rule in the first place.

00:24:51.400 That's not justice.

00:24:52.300 If someone murdered your mother

00:24:54.120 and you went into a judge and the judge said,

00:24:56.480 well, I'm gonna let you off

00:24:57.200 because I'm gonna show you mercy.

00:24:58.160 You'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a second.

00:25:00.060 This guy murdered my mother.

00:25:02.580 There's no justice here, right?

00:25:04.280 His love and mercy and grace and that,

00:25:06.020 They wouldn't be perceived in any of those things.

00:25:07.720 It would be perceived as a massive miscarriage of justice.

00:25:10.320 So how do you make, but God loves us.

00:25:12.160 He wants reconciliation, but he also demands justice

00:25:15.520 because guess what's also essential to love?

00:25:18.460 Justice.

00:25:19.080 Justice, yeah.

00:25:20.160 If you claim to love someone,

00:25:21.360 but you treat them unjustly,

00:25:22.800 we start to question your commitment to them.

00:25:25.800 So now-

00:25:26.600 I mean, it's the same with our own children.

00:25:27.760 You know, I think about-

00:25:28.700 Yes.

00:25:29.100 One of my children messes up.

00:25:30.800 I discipline them out of love

00:25:33.160 because they need to learn the lesson,

00:25:34.900 not because I hate them.

00:25:37.320 Yeah, yeah.

00:25:38.160 So what is the one way,

00:25:40.660 what is the one way that God can actually demonstrate

00:25:43.040 his love and desire for reconciliation for human beings

00:25:45.380 while still maintaining justice?

00:25:47.140 He has to be the one.

00:25:48.540 He has to be the one because he's the only one that can.

00:25:51.120 He's the only one that qualifies

00:25:52.620 to take on the punishment on our behalf. 0.93

00:25:55.960 So as I look at the logical reasons to believe in Christianity,

00:25:59.560 as I look at the philosophical reasons to believe in Christianity,

00:26:01.860 As I look at early attestation of scripture and the scrutiny that it's undergone.

00:26:06.200 And then as I look at it, it addresses the most key fundamental components of human life

00:26:10.720 from meaning, purpose, identity, love, justice.

00:26:15.440 It's all right there.

00:26:16.420 It's all right there in that message of the cross.

00:26:20.100 And so I can't give someone an argument in the sense that here's the scientific proof

00:26:26.120 for X.

00:26:27.380 What I can do is give an incredible amount of evidence and then discuss how it actually

00:26:31.800 addresses all the deepest meanings and needs of humanity combined with the fact, and this is very

00:26:38.240 important, that Jesus made truth claims. So at the end of the day, you're either going to believe

00:26:44.380 them or you're not, but there is no neutral territory. So. Yeah. Interesting. Well, and I

00:26:50.940 wanted to tie this back into something you talked a lot of a little bit about earlier. You were

00:26:54.320 talking about Maslow's hierarchy of needs and you talked about self-actualization. I think

00:26:59.680 it's so it's so subject to interpretation and i think what's happened and you tell me what you

00:27:05.220 what you feel about this is that instead of humanity working towards something greater

00:27:11.680 than themselves and then adapting to that for example you know with your with your military

00:27:17.080 service you didn't go into the military to be an individual you went into the military to learn a

00:27:22.960 system that would help you actualize who you had the potential to become but i think in modern

00:27:28.580 times, it's no longer about finding a system, the best system following God, for example.

00:27:35.500 It's more about my own self-expression, my own identity, my own happiness. And so I just wander

00:27:41.960 around trying to be happy at the expense of the rules and the ideas that will actually make me

00:27:48.800 more fulfilled in life. Oh, I tell people all the time when it comes to the question of freedom,

00:27:54.120 Freedom is a word that gets used a lot, especially in American culture.

00:27:58.320 I absolutely believe in political freedom, right?

00:28:01.280 I don't want to be oppressed by a government system.

00:28:03.600 I'm highly skeptical of the concentration of government power.

00:28:06.260 So I place a high value on political freedom.

00:28:09.380 But that really is kind of a means to an end, right?

00:28:12.680 It's not that, okay, now that I can vote and now I'm not oppressed, so therefore I'm happy.

00:28:17.740 The things that make you happy in life are seldom your freedoms.

00:28:20.620 They're actually your responsibilities, right?

00:28:23.140 So when I got married, I didn't become more free.

00:28:26.280 When I had kids, when we had kids, we definitely did not become more free, right?

00:28:30.420 When I got my two dogs, we did not become more free.

00:28:32.980 All of those things actually represented a draw on my time, on my attention, on my resources,

00:28:41.640 all of them.

00:28:42.240 So why?

00:28:43.060 Because it's so much more enriching to have that sort of companionship with people that

00:28:46.580 you love and care about, right?

00:28:47.900 Even your pets, right?

00:28:48.920 We kind of intuitively understand that those responsibilities actually give a sense of

00:28:54.440 meaning and purpose that just, you know, complete individualism does not.

00:28:59.180 And so when we talk about individualism, sure, from the sense of the origination of rights,

00:29:04.040 right, rights have to start with the individual, not the collective.

00:29:07.240 When we talk about the fact that God made you as an individual human being, like we

00:29:12.220 recognize that you have inherent worth as you, as a person.

00:29:15.360 But then one of the things that we typically go out and do almost immediately is we go look for community with other people, which by necessity comes with some degree of responsibility for the way that we conduct ourselves, the way that we interact.

00:29:30.280 And so, again, I think that tells us something about what human beings were designed or created to do.

00:29:36.960 So when Maslow talks about self-actualization, we can almost look at that as an empty bucket.

00:29:42.940 If you actually have a correct worldview, well, then self-actualization for me as a Christian is to honor God, to be obedient to his will, to obey his commands, to love my neighbor as myself, to do these things.

00:29:53.360 And insofar as I do those well, then great.

00:29:55.540 I've achieved, quote, self-actualization, but as a result of getting closer to him.

00:30:00.080 Now, if you're somebody with a very, very different worldview, you know, Jeffrey Domner was also trying to achieve self-actualization by murdering and eating people.

00:30:07.320 But I don't think any of us think, oh, hey, as long as it's self-actualization, you do you, buddy.

00:30:12.400 right like we understand that's wrong but if we understand it's wrong the question is

00:30:16.360 why what's the ultimate source of good and evil again that's where i appeal back to scripture

00:30:20.760 man just stepping away really quickly i promise you i'll get back to it because i know you're

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00:32:20.900 for now let's get back to it nick

00:32:22.760 i've always had this idea and people people fight me on this but

00:32:29.020 does a terrorist have an integrity? And the answer to me is yes. If they believe that so firmly in

00:32:38.740 their ideology that they are to sacrifice themselves and kill others and they do it,

00:32:43.980 that's actually being an integrity. It's aligning your words with your actions. And so it's funny

00:32:48.920 that people will buck against that. But I think if you just look at the principle itself, it's

00:32:54.360 really important to understand because you can see how in integrity you are or out of integrity

00:32:59.740 you are if you're not willing to do those things. No, I think you're absolutely right. It's another

00:33:04.300 one of these problems that we have with like deconstructionism, right? It's the idea that

00:33:07.760 words no longer have fixed meanings. They just mean whatever the hearer wants it to mean.

00:33:12.440 And it makes debate and discussion impossible. So we can all understand that we have like words

00:33:19.820 might have two kind of understandings in the sense that there is the actual definition of the word

00:33:25.800 and then there's a colloquial understanding of the word. Fair enough. So when you say,

00:33:31.080 when you say, look, a terrorist that honest to God believes that his job is to blow himself for a law

00:33:36.020 or whatever else it is, when he follows through with that, he has integrity with respect to his

00:33:40.460 beliefs. That's, yes, that is absolutely correct. It doesn't make it moral, but yes. Exactly. It

00:33:45.360 doesn't make it good. It doesn't make it moral. It just means within this context, he has integrity.

00:33:50.500 In fact, we would say that his integrity to this thing was really, really bad, right? He shouldn't

00:33:55.100 have done that. That was a misinterpretation of the correct thing to do. Another thing I like to

00:34:00.560 bring up with this, when we talk about this, this kind of misuse of words is people, they will

00:34:05.160 assign an inherent moral meaning to a word that has no inherent moral meaning. I'll give you a

00:34:10.600 perfect example, tolerance. I love to ask college students, I'm like, how many of you are tolerant

00:34:17.680 people? And they'll all raise their hand. I'm like, okay, so you think, you think it's perfectly

00:34:21.280 fine to beat up an old woman and steal her purse? No, of course not. Oh, so you're intolerant 0.99

00:34:26.740 of assault, battery, and theft. That makes you an intolerant person, right? And we'll, it's like,

00:34:32.180 guys, you need a larger context in order to determine whether a tolerance or equality,

00:34:38.940 right or or discrimination right all these words might have a colloquial understanding in the way

00:34:45.460 that we generally use the terms in the context in which they are generally used but the words

00:34:49.880 themselves do not have a fixed moral meaning it depends on the context and that's important and

00:34:54.560 unfortunately it's not something we i feel like we teach very well these days well i think it's

00:34:59.100 i think it's two things i think on some people's minds it's malicious we're gonna we're gonna

00:35:03.840 hijack this word we're gonna bastardize it we're gonna make it mean something else the big one in

00:35:08.540 colorado right now is um uh oh gosh what's the term uh gender no let's see gender conversion

00:35:17.820 conversion oh conversion therapy conversion definition of conversion yeah to get around

00:35:22.580 because what what most of us think is like a therapist or a doctor zapping homosexuals so

00:35:29.900 that they're straight now right that's what we think of but the way that they're using it is that

00:35:34.580 a, or the way that they're kind of conflating two terms is a therapist talking with a young

00:35:42.580 woman who's confused about her sexuality and that therapist cannot say to her, well, you're not a

00:35:50.160 boy. And it makes sense that you're confused about your sexuality because of your hormones and

00:35:54.540 because the cultural environment, but you're not a boy. And so we're going to tell you the truth.

00:35:59.760 And up until relatively recently, last couple of days, you haven't been able to do that as a

00:36:03.900 therapist in Colorado. Yeah. Well, and you think about how absurd that is. The idea that a therapist

00:36:09.940 would be legally restricted from telling a biological girl that they are in fact a biological

00:36:15.760 girl. Can you imagine someone honestly believing that they can fly? Let's imagine a 12 year old 0.98

00:36:23.280 that honestly believes that they can fly. And so they're on the top of a 12 story building and

00:36:27.660 someone is sitting there going, I promise you, you can't fly, right? It's a biological reality

00:36:32.400 that you can't fly, you're going to die. And then leftists getting pissed that that guy's engaging

00:36:37.220 in, in gravity conversion theory. How dare, how dare they suggest to this, this young flying

00:36:44.320 being that they can't jump off this 12 story. But if they really believe they can, then who are you

00:36:48.900 to tell them that they can't? Someone that doesn't want them to go splat on the ground. That's,

00:36:54.500 that's who I am. But you know, you, you see this in the terms that they use. My wife brought this

00:36:59.020 up once. And I thought it was brilliant because they're talking about gender affirming care,

00:37:02.780 gender affirming care, gender affirming care. And Tina said, it's not gender affirming. It's

00:37:08.260 dysphoria affirming. This child is having a mental break with reality with respect to their biological 1.00

00:37:14.620 identity. And you are affirming the biological or the intellectual break with reality,

00:37:22.200 right? Like who does that? That would be considered malpractice in any other situation,

00:37:27.480 except for this one.

00:37:29.660 So, yeah, no, it's amazing.

00:37:31.820 It is amazing the length they will go to

00:37:34.120 in order to push this.

00:37:35.640 And it should give us some insight

00:37:37.280 on how important this is to their worldview.

00:37:39.980 How important the complete altering

00:37:41.880 and rejection of reality as we know it is

00:37:44.360 to their worldview.

00:37:45.560 And you should be very concerned

00:37:47.620 about any worldview that is completely unwilling

00:37:50.700 to attempt to restrain itself

00:37:54.460 by the natural laws of reality

00:37:57.460 And any worldview that says, nope, those are not bound by me and anybody who disagrees with me, that is an ideology.

00:38:02.720 That is an ideology that given enough time and the correct circumstances, they can justify just doing just about anything to another person by standing in their way.

00:38:13.040 And you see it by the language they use, by the way.

00:38:15.540 Yeah, and I mean even you can look at all the euphemisms, which is partly what we're talking about here.

00:38:19.960 And any time somebody starts using flowery, soft language to describe very real, potentially dangerous, dangerous phenomenon is somebody who's trying to be deceitful.

00:38:29.720 It's malicious.

00:38:31.700 Oh, yeah.

00:38:32.520 Well, and it's also the left does this very well where they will create a victim category.

00:38:38.000 And then when they attempt to the first argument they will make is try to to try to intellectually justify why this victim category exists.

00:38:45.640 the moment you start to tear apart their their intellectual justification for their category

00:38:52.020 you'll notice that what they do is they stop arguing facts evidence lines of reasoning what

00:38:57.260 they now do is they put themselves in between you and the victim category they've created

00:39:02.600 and now every time you attack their reasoning they pretend you're attacking the person

00:39:08.100 and then they pull themselves up i'm just trying to protect this person from you

00:39:13.280 So they're automatically putting you in an aggressor position, even though that's not where you're at.

00:39:17.480 You are having a discussion about the boundaries of reality.

00:39:20.040 You are having a discussion about facts and evidence and a logically consistent interpretation thereof.

00:39:25.060 They've now changed the dynamic because they can't win an argument under those grounds.

00:39:30.360 They now have to make it where they're defending a vulnerable party against you.

00:39:34.120 And we need to wake up to that and understand what they're doing because in reality,

00:39:38.160 what they're really doing at that point

00:39:40.140 is they're now insisting that an innocent person

00:39:42.700 be hurt or be harmed

00:39:44.800 or even be killed in certain circumstances

00:39:47.240 in order to justify their worldview.

00:39:50.640 And that's pretty nefarious when you think about it.

00:39:52.460 That's incredibly manipulative

00:39:53.600 and nefarious when you think about it.

00:39:55.720 Well, that is, I never really considered that.

00:39:57.820 I've always looked at it as the power dynamic

00:40:00.940 or the power hierarchy.

00:40:02.040 And they talk about the oppressed versus the oppressor

00:40:04.220 like you're talking about.

00:40:05.280 it's it is interesting that any potential outcome in their view is a direct result of this power

00:40:14.900 dynamic taking place it could it couldn't be that that person was lazy and that person wasn't

00:40:21.180 it couldn't be that that person's maybe slightly more intelligent naturally than that person it

00:40:26.560 couldn't be that that person had a mom and a dad and this person did not it's all about power when

00:40:32.660 there's so many other factors to consider and we ought to consider the other factors for example

00:40:36.980 being raised in a nuclear family is going to have a higher likelihood of that person having success

00:40:43.560 graduating high school higher likelihood of success not having children out of wedlock

00:40:48.400 higher likelihood of success let's look at those things because we can actually do something about

00:40:53.520 that i can't do anything about the color of your skin yeah but but then i don't get but then i don't

00:40:59.440 get a moral framework by which i can ignore all of your arguments and that's what this affords

00:41:04.700 them that's what this affords them and if because here's what you'll notice in almost every single

00:41:09.540 i got in an argument with a i was doing a tabling event um at virginia uh excuse me university of

00:41:15.420 virginia and and a student we were arguing about critical theory and oppressor oppressed dynamics

00:41:19.960 and systemic racism or power structures and he's like well you don't believe power structures

00:41:23.860 exist i'm like no of course i believe power structures exist i don't think they explain

00:41:27.200 everything you explain. I think it's also important to recognize that every, just about every critical

00:41:31.960 theorist I've ever read, studied, or looked at always has a solution to everything. And the

00:41:36.540 solution always includes rapid expansion of government power in the hands of themselves.

00:41:40.700 So they're going to reorder society. They're going to fix all these problems they've created,

00:41:43.800 but, but there's a catch. You got to give them a whole bunch of political power.

00:41:47.240 And he goes, well, that's, that's not true of all of them. I'm like, I have yet to meet

00:41:50.620 an anarcho-critical theorist, right? They're, they always offer a government solution to the

00:41:56.900 problem. So if, if what they want, and this makes sense, because if you look at the critical

00:42:01.080 theorists, Herbert Marcuse, the Frankfurt school, they were all heavily rooted in Marx. So Marx

00:42:06.040 kind of rejected this idea of Christianity, rejected these, uh, some of these categories

00:42:10.280 of traditional notions of right and wrong and the family structure. And he replaced it with

00:42:15.520 either the state or the collective. And so that's what they're after. They want that there's,

00:42:20.580 there's some sort of Marxian worldview that they're trying to implement. Um, but if, if the

00:42:26.580 logic doesn't work for them, if the evidence doesn't play out, well, now it's about creating

00:42:30.080 moral categories where they can disregard what you say. And, and now it's, it's, it's gone to

00:42:36.160 the next level. It used to be, so for instance, I would get into debates with people in the

00:42:40.140 General Assembly and I would make a debate in favor of the second amendment, or I would make

00:42:44.560 a debate in favor of free market economics. And they didn't respond with, well, Nick, I don't

00:42:50.300 think your stat from the CDC is accurate because of this, or Nick, I don't know that your position

00:42:55.400 on raising minimum wage is accurate because of this. 0.60

00:42:57.620 It was like, no, no, no, you're a racist. 0.99

00:42:59.720 You're a sexist. 1.00

00:43:00.940 You don't care about people. 1.00

00:43:02.440 You don't care about kids dying.

00:43:04.160 That's right.

00:43:04.640 The same people that think we should have abortion

00:43:06.140 up till birth are lecturing me

00:43:08.200 on whether I care about kids dying, right?

00:43:10.520 And so I'm going back there and here's what I realized.

00:43:13.520 I'm trying to debate.

00:43:15.680 They're trying to diagnose.

00:43:18.320 They're trying to determine what sort of

00:43:20.840 negative character trait I possess

00:43:23.440 or what sort of psychopathy that I have

00:43:27.460 where they can say,

00:43:28.480 oh, no, no, we don't have to listen to his arguments

00:43:30.780 because we just called him a bigot, right?

00:43:33.260 Because if he's a bigot,

00:43:34.160 who cares what his argument is?

00:43:35.560 Because of course a bigot would say that.

00:43:37.300 Of course a racist would say that. 0.97

00:43:38.900 Of course a white man would say that.

00:43:41.460 But now they've moved the language

00:43:42.660 and you see this manifested with Charlie Kirk.

00:43:45.540 They went from you're a racist, 1.00

00:43:47.360 you're a sexist, you're a bigot. 1.00

00:43:48.940 And what they were doing 1.00

00:43:49.900 was trying to rob you of your moral legitimacy. 0.99

00:43:53.440 Now they've moved on to, you're a threat to non-democracy, you're a fascist, you're a Nazi, right? 0.99

00:43:58.920 You're committing transgenocide if you don't affirm their gender. 0.99

00:44:02.340 Well, okay, think about all those terms, Nazi, fascist, genocide.

00:44:06.200 What do we do to Nazis, fascists, and people that perpetrate genocide? 0.91

00:44:09.880 We hurt them. 1.00

00:44:10.880 We kill them, right? 1.00

00:44:12.040 We kill them, right? 1.00

00:44:13.200 So it went from, I'm going to rob these people of their moral legitimacy so I don't have to contend with their intellectual arguments. 0.99

00:44:20.400 and now what I'm going to do

00:44:22.320 is I'm going to create a moral framework 0.61

00:44:24.360 whereby I can use aggressive violence toward them

00:44:27.740 and claim it was self-defense.

00:44:30.600 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't just unprovokely,

00:44:34.100 I didn't walk up and unprovoke, hit that guy

00:44:36.240 or beat that guy or shove that guy

00:44:38.280 or spit on that guy or shoot that guy. 0.99

00:44:40.380 No, no, no, he used certain words 0.98

00:44:42.300 and the words he used are violence.

00:44:44.120 His speech is violence,

00:44:45.300 so I responded with violence and self-defense.

00:44:48.060 that's the moral framework they're creating now well you saw this with i can't remember the

00:44:54.160 gentleman's name the health care ceo or exec that was executed you know shot in the back of the head

00:44:59.980 if i remember correctly and people were celebrating that because he was he was a villain right he was

00:45:06.820 taking advantage of the the the downtrodden and the the poor and whoever else they felt like they

00:45:14.520 could use as an excuse to justify public execution. Well, and look, I don't know the

00:45:22.080 details of that guy's life or decisions he made within his company or whatnot. I understand people

00:45:26.360 are frustrated with the American medical system, but if they would actually dig into the American

00:45:31.620 medical system, they would probably find out that the things I'm most mad about are government

00:45:35.320 interventions into the American medical system. But where's the outrage when Spain, when a girl 0.61

00:45:41.460 in Spain is gang raped, right? And, and harmed and becomes a paraplegic and then requests suicide. 0.88

00:45:48.860 And her father intervenes to try to prevent the suicide. And the state comes in, by the way,

00:45:52.580 they don't go after the people that gang raped her. They don't go after the people that harmed

00:45:55.780 her. They didn't go after the people that harmed her for life. No, no, no. What do they do?

00:45:58.820 They're complicit in her death. What about in Canada where the assisted death process up there

00:46:06.280 in their free healthcare system, right, has murdered literally tens of millions of Canadians.

00:46:12.480 And I'm not talking about, oh, these guys were dealing with horrible cancer and they were in the

00:46:16.220 last couple of weeks of their life in horrible pain. No, no, no. We have people where they went

00:46:20.400 in saying, hey, I'm disabled. I'm supposed to get this scooter. And then they get offered

00:46:25.880 assisted suicide instead. Where is all the outrage for the fact that you now have a state

00:46:32.040 healthcare apparatus, which is incentivized to kill its own citizens because it costs less.

00:46:38.920 Where's the humanity in that? And their answer is, is you're never going to see them protest over

00:46:43.240 that because ultimately a state-run healthcare system is what they want. So if you murder a CEO

00:46:48.940 from a private health insurer, right, that's, he's already in the oppressor category and oppressors

00:46:54.280 get shot and they don't have to have any moral qualms about it whatsoever. And due process

00:46:59.620 doesn't need to be a thing. In fact, the only time they will mention things like humanity or

00:47:05.460 due process or respect for the rule of law or respect for the constitution, it's never because

00:47:11.900 they have some sort of inherent love for these things. These are tools that they use to consolidate

00:47:16.940 power, not because they believe in them, but because we do, because we believe in them.

00:47:23.500 And so it's another form of manipulation. And again, I'm not claiming that everyone on the

00:47:29.080 left that's adopted this are just, they're inherently evil people. No, no. What I'm saying

00:47:33.400 is they have adopted an inherently evil ideology because this is the logical instate of it.

00:47:40.020 I think there's a lot of men who are very, uh, disgusted, even probably deflated. Uh, at some

00:47:48.860 point it seems like people are continuing to just throw up their hands and saying, you know,

00:47:53.260 there's nothing I can do about it, but I would love to hear from you, you know, as somebody who

00:47:57.720 served in the military who served in politics you know is very vocal with your social media presence

00:48:03.640 what do other men do other than you know like listen to the some of this stuff talk about some

00:48:11.440 of these things bring some of these things up what is it that we can actually do to start moving the

00:48:15.540 needle in the right direction it's like i just wrote a book yes um and and it's funny because

00:48:21.920 it's not in the context that you would think it's not a here's everything bad going on in society

00:48:25.660 here's what you can do in order to fix society. It's more about, here's what you, here are the

00:48:30.320 things you need to do as a man. And, and those things include things like, how do, how do I find

00:48:35.740 the woman I want to marry? How do I raise sons? How do I raise daughters? What's the difference

00:48:39.440 in raising them? How do I pick a weapon for home defense? How, how do I make an argument? How do I

00:48:43.980 defend my faith? Right? All of these things. And the reason I did it was because it wasn't meant

00:48:49.840 to be like an instruction manual to the sense where it's like, I'm lecturing you on what you

00:48:53.420 need to do. It was more of a, these are things I've learned through 46 years of life, 26 years

00:48:58.980 of marriage, a couple of combat tours, serving in the legislature, being a business owner.

00:49:03.280 These are the things I've learned. These are the things I wish someone would have taught me or

00:49:06.360 told me. But one of the biggest things that I did, I try to get across, especially when I talk to

00:49:12.780 young men is that first and foremost, I acknowledge that this sucks. This sucks. Men, especially 0.99

00:49:20.240 straight white men, but all men in America and really in the West have been just repeatedly

00:49:24.260 denigrated over the last several decades. Um, they, they don't, I mean, it is the, the numbers

00:49:29.380 are in, they don't get into college at the same rates. They don't get into job opportunities at

00:49:33.900 the same rates. They, you know, they, they are actually having access restricted to them either

00:49:40.160 by law or by corporate culture, which is, is terrified of getting sued by, you know, whatever

00:49:47.220 or the LGBTQ community or whatever else it is.

00:49:49.720 And so you can actively discriminate against straight men

00:49:53.120 and especially straight white men.

00:49:54.700 And these guys are looking around going,

00:49:55.980 what is the point, Nick?

00:49:57.240 You're telling me to be a good, strong man.

00:49:58.960 For what? 1.00

00:49:59.580 A woman that doesn't want me, 1.00

00:50:01.060 kids I'm never gonna have, 0.72

00:50:02.400 a country that hates me and a job I'm never gonna get?

00:50:04.920 Is that what I'm fighting for?

00:50:06.880 And my answer to them is always the same thing.

00:50:10.660 Every generation has unique challenges

00:50:13.260 that they have to face, right?

00:50:15.020 In World War II, there was 19-year-olds

00:50:16.960 storming a beach on June 6th of 1944.

00:50:21.500 They didn't want to be there,

00:50:23.720 but that was their struggle.

00:50:26.060 Your struggle is not as obvious as that one

00:50:29.180 because storming the beaches to fight the Nazis

00:50:31.260 was something that Americans appreciated you for.

00:50:35.920 And right now, these young men are growing up in a time

00:50:37.840 where all of those same instincts to go fight

00:50:40.220 and to conquer and to protect and preserve

00:50:41.880 are being denigrated by society.

00:50:43.880 But the thing I always encourage young men to understand

00:50:45.660 is A, it's still the right instincts, right?

00:50:48.940 That desire to be strong, to be capable, to be powerful.

00:50:51.880 These aren't just things that are good for you to do.

00:50:53.960 They're absolutely necessary for preserving society.

00:50:56.520 And most importantly, they're things God commands you to do.

00:51:00.400 And in that sense, they're not options, they're commands.

00:51:03.420 Why are they commands?

00:51:05.120 Is it commands because you're always gonna be rewarded

00:51:07.040 the way you want to be?

00:51:08.160 Is it commands because you're always gonna be rewarded

00:51:09.680 the way that you should be for displaying

00:51:12.080 those strong character traits and masculine attributes?

00:51:14.200 No, but it's still righteous.

00:51:17.620 And the more men that actually choose to do it, that's how you solve the situation.

00:51:21.840 There's a lot of young men right now looking at past generations of men going, you let

00:51:25.160 us down.

00:51:25.660 You know what the answer is?

00:51:26.820 Yes, you're correct.

00:51:28.300 You were let down.

00:51:29.980 Weak men created bad times, which you're now having to deal with.

00:51:33.240 But now you have to choose to be strong men.

00:51:36.040 And I can't promise you that it's going to correct everything overnight, but I can promise

00:51:39.220 you this.

00:51:39.720 It's the only thing that will correct it.

00:51:41.280 if you are waiting around to be fully appreciated for all the attributes that we need from you in

00:51:46.740 society and and you are waiting for it to be properly appreciated before before you develop 0.98

00:51:52.220 and implement them you will never get the sort of society you want so i acknowledge that it sucks

00:51:58.140 but the good news is is the reason why they have spent so much time trying to convince men

00:52:03.220 that you don't have any power or shouldn't have any say is again not because you don't it's because

00:52:09.180 you do. I promise you right now we're seeing the statistics. 70% of young men are identifying as

00:52:15.040 more conservative and more religious than we've seen in the last 60 years. True. Yeah. Right. Let

00:52:20.800 me, let me go ahead and make a prediction right now. If they stick to it, I don't mean for 40

00:52:26.620 years, right? Like before they see results, if they stick to it, they will start to see a shift

00:52:32.180 from young women in that direction as well. Why? Because as much as people don't want to hear it, 0.98

00:52:37.040 men lead and when men lead well women don't mind actually working with that that's what they want

00:52:46.660 right they want it so what i would tell young men is that i really think you could i think we could

00:52:52.260 turn this whole thing around in one generation godly man marries a godly woman becomes a godly

00:52:58.780 you know husband and father godly mother and wife and then you raise kids to do the same we can fix

00:53:04.620 this in one generation and I'll tell you why, because the people perpetrating this hyper 1.00

00:53:08.340 feminist, atheistic, you know, hedonistic view of the world, they don't have enough 1.00

00:53:14.040 kids. 1.00

00:53:15.240 They don't.

00:53:16.180 They're either a boredom, they're either a boredom or they wait so long to have them

00:53:19.720 that maybe they get one.

00:53:21.060 So I have two daughters.

00:53:22.000 My oldest got married at 21.

00:53:23.300 My youngest, I promise you will be married probably by 21 as well.

00:53:27.040 And it's not because they're not strong.

00:53:28.960 It's not because they don't understand their faith or their own minds or things like that

00:53:32.080 or have ambitions, but they also want to be wives and mothers.

00:53:34.620 They want to build those families.

00:53:36.040 So for the guys out there, those women exist.

00:53:40.380 Those women exist. 0.82

00:53:41.240 Don't waste your time with the bad ones. 1.00

00:53:42.800 To the ladies watching this, don't waste your time with the bad guys. 1.00

00:53:46.140 You know, find each other. 0.76

00:53:46.960 Find the sort of people that want to be, again, godly men and women to become godly husbands and wives,

00:53:51.000 become godly mothers and fathers, and raise their kids to do the same.

00:53:53.600 And we can win this whole thing in one generation, right?

00:53:57.180 It's a numbers game, people, and we can win it.

00:53:59.360 We can win it by having those relationships and raising those kids in that way.

00:54:03.200 You know what I like about this is that, so the idea of victimhood, victimization, victim, you know, those words get thrown around a lot. And I think that there are actually victims in the world. When you talk about young men and the deck being stacked against them, that is a real thing where somebody could be a victim of discrimination, for example.

00:54:27.260 but what i like about what you're saying is that just because you happen to be a victim of

00:54:33.240 something doesn't mean that you need to fall into victimhood or victimization and i think that's what

00:54:39.720 the modern man space or the manosphere you know we saw this documentary on uh on netflix

00:54:46.880 that's what the modern manosphere teaches is that now we can play victim we can fall into victimhood

00:54:54.480 we can tell everybody why everyone else is wrong that we're the oppressed to go back to what you

00:54:59.640 were saying earlier and that we get to disengage from society or worse we get to exert ourselves

00:55:07.620 on society in dangerous and destructive ways yeah there's there's kind of what they call like almost

00:55:14.420 the red pill and the black pill right moment like the black pill is just what you said it's the

00:55:17.920 complete disengaging it's like i'm a victim i didn't ask for this i didn't do anything wrong

00:55:22.020 And here's the deal. There's a big difference between victimized and then identifying as a victim.

00:55:26.920 Yes. And the problem is, is that we've created an incentive structure around identifying as a victim.

00:55:32.880 You saw that. I don't know if you saw this latest thing with the NDP up in Canada where it's like, I have my equity card and my gender card.

00:55:39.080 Oh, I did see it. 0.55

00:55:39.940 You know, trans card. And I'm supposed to speak because I'm a part. And it was it was the victim Olympics. Right.

00:55:45.600 It was it was the hierarchy of intersectional politics. How many different victim statuses could I claim at one time? And that gave me that gave them power in that environment. The problem is it gives you power nowhere else because it's ridiculous.

00:55:59.480 What we used to hold up was we would hold up, we would celebrate somebody overcoming difficult circumstances, which usually included unjust circumstances.

00:56:12.220 So, for instance, when somebody overcomes drug addiction, we think, that's good.

00:56:16.840 We're proud of you for doing that.

00:56:18.280 But we also recognize that to some degree you put yourself in that situation.

00:56:21.720 But if somebody leaves, like they had an abusive childhood, and instead of feeding into it, they get their lives together and they go out there and they work hard.

00:56:32.180 Like Victor Marks in Colorado is a great example of this.

00:56:34.880 Grew up in a horribly abusive childhood, could have absolutely claimed that victim status his entire life.

00:56:39.440 Instead, he used it as fuel to go out and protect other kids to make sure that what happened to him never happens to them.

00:56:46.500 That's what we're supposed to be holding up.

00:56:49.200 It's not the victimization.

00:56:50.760 it's the overcoming difficult circumstances in an unjust world in order to make it more just

00:56:56.240 that's what we're supposed to be elevating and and so go ahead no go ahead no no i was i was

00:57:04.220 going to stop there it's so so anyways we created that victim mentality which is which again is is

00:57:09.280 horrible and and now we have some guys that are embracing it with the black pill which is just

00:57:13.300 like fine i'm going to disengage i'm going to watch porn i'm going to play video games and and

00:57:16.580 take assistance or do whatever jobs and that's it that's that's the sum total of my life now

00:57:20.660 didn't I show you? No, you didn't. You're just going to be miserable.

00:57:24.720 Yeah, you're just going to hurt yourself. The other thing is more of, yeah, this other thing 0.93

00:57:27.800 is this idea that, okay, I'm going to be strong. I'm going to be capable. I'm going to be smart.

00:57:31.980 I'm going to be successful. Why am I going to do these things? So I can sleep with as many women

00:57:35.820 as I want, have fast cars, have nice homes. And that'll prove that I conquered this environment. 0.96

00:57:41.880 That'll prove that I conquered it. And while there's nothing wrong, in fact, there's something

00:57:46.020 very, very necessary about you being strong and capable and certainly working to be successful

00:57:51.220 and be able to provide all these things and build. Yeah. All good things, all good things

00:57:55.680 in service to what? Because if it's just in service to yourself or if it's in service for

00:58:02.340 some sort of revenge or some sort of hedonistic objectives, I can promise you two things. One,

00:58:07.820 you're not going to make the world a better place. In fact, you're becoming the sort of man you would

00:58:12.100 tell the daughter you love to avoid and you never want to be that man. Yeah. The other thing that

00:58:17.460 you're going to do is you're going to find out how miserable you are because the deepest depression

00:58:21.700 you will ever experience is not being denied the things that you think you want. It's getting all

00:58:26.360 the things that you thought you wanted, that you thought would give you meaning and purpose and

00:58:29.820 being, and being left empty at the end of it, because it doesn't, because what you're really

00:58:33.880 looking with in this, I go back to my faith on this. You're looking for meaning, purpose,

00:58:37.180 and your true identity. I can tell you this. I've had good times and I've had bad times,

00:58:42.180 but I've never questioned my identity. Why? Because I know who made me. I know what my

00:58:47.040 meaning is. I know what my purpose is. I may have different jobs. I was proud of being a

00:58:51.020 Green Beret. I was proud of being a member of the Virginia House of Delegates, but those positions

00:58:54.380 never define me. I'm defined by who I serve and I serve God. I serve Christ. And so when things

00:59:01.100 are going great, I'm very thankful. And when things are going bad, I'm also thankful because

00:59:04.840 he told me things would go bad at times and that I should rejoice when I get to suffer something

00:59:08.340 for his name. Because even in the bad times, there's meaning and purpose in it. And so what

00:59:13.700 I would tell young men is like, look, there's a reason why you need to develop yourself spiritually,

00:59:19.260 emotionally, intellectually, physically, and professionally. And start with the spiritual,

00:59:23.500 because that's going to set the foundation of your worldview for everything else. But if you

00:59:27.280 get that right, all of a sudden there's meaning and purpose in all of the other things that you're

00:59:31.180 going to develop. You're going to know why you're doing it, who you're doing it for. And it's,

00:59:35.100 it's amazing. Um, I, I, somebody was talking to me about being a husband and a father and they,

00:59:42.360 they liked what I had to say about it. And I said, you know, I could tell you a whole lot

00:59:46.460 about all the things I got wrong. I can tell you so much about the things, better decisions I wish

00:59:50.880 I would have made, how I screwed it up. But what I am so thankful for is that God blesses faithful

00:59:57.700 yet imperfect attempts. Right. He, he knows, he knows we're not always going to get it. He knows

01:00:03.280 we're going to stumble, but when he sees us get back up and continue to pursue it, because we

01:00:07.680 really are trying to be diligent in our pursuit, we really are trying to be faithful. He rewards

01:00:12.120 it exponentially. I like that. Um, you know, you see a lot of people, I think it's way easier now

01:00:18.980 to see people screw up than it used to be even 20, 30, 40 years ago. It's just so visible and

01:00:23.920 publicly available but it's when you can reference it from 10 years ago yeah but you know it's it is

01:00:31.580 it's a little disheartening to see that how often we'll throw people under the bus for the

01:00:38.360 the most minor infraction or we'll cast stones from the sideline forever and talk about how

01:00:44.660 horrible human a human is and it's like you know yeah i can acknowledge that i messed up or that

01:00:49.760 that person messed up or they shouldn't have done that or behave that way. But I also believe in the

01:00:54.040 power of redemption. And if you can't give that to somebody else, if you can't afford that, if you

01:00:59.920 can't pray or hope that that person can overcome whatever they've done, you're not going to get

01:01:06.260 that for yourself. And you better hope that you get that because you will mess up. Yeah. One,

01:01:14.020 and again, it's another one of those things where I look at scripture, I'm like, wow, this just

01:01:17.740 perfectly explains the human condition, right? We're instructed to forgive because we've been

01:01:21.960 forgiven. Right. And that's not just a command or a mandate in recognition of the sacrifice

01:01:30.100 Christ made for us. It also reflects what actually happens within society and within

01:01:36.520 our own psychology. When you forgive somebody of something, and by the way, I'm not saying

01:01:41.600 forgive and forget. We have this idea that, oh, you cheated on me 12 times, but that's okay. I

01:01:46.460 forgot all of them. No. Yeah. Subject yourself to more hurt. You don't have to do that. Yeah.

01:01:51.260 I don't got, I'm not mandated to do that by scripture. Right. But when, when you forgive

01:01:55.360 something, you're, you're doing a couple of things. One, you're acknowledging that you've

01:01:58.700 been forgiven as much. And now you're reflecting that in return to someone else. You're actually

01:02:02.540 giving that other person, uh, an incredible opportunity to actually feel the injustice of

01:02:08.740 what they did because now they can see light at the end of the tunnel. There is a, there is a path.

01:02:14.040 They've experienced forgiveness in a way that's representative of the way Christ forgave us.

01:02:19.660 It also absolves you of carrying that burden, right?

01:02:22.960 Like when you can truly say, hey, man, I forgive you.

01:02:25.800 I forgive.

01:02:26.520 Now, again, there may be times where it's like if my business partner embezzles money from me, I'm like, okay, we're not going to be in business together anymore, but I forgive you.

01:02:33.560 I'm not going to—I'm not lording this over you for the rest of your life, and I'm not carrying it for the rest of mine.

01:02:39.080 I learned a lesson.

01:02:40.100 I'm moving on.

01:02:40.820 I forgive you because I also want you to be able to grow and learn and move on as well.

01:02:44.480 There is something so radical in that ability to forgive, which is not only healing for them,

01:02:50.720 it's healing for you. And so I'm not telling people that they've got to continually put

01:02:56.760 themselves into dangerous or abusive situations. Far from it. I'm saying that understand the true

01:03:02.080 nature of forgiveness, as is actually explained in scripture, is to both, again, recognize that

01:03:07.860 you've been forgiven and to provide the best possible path forward for them to recognize

01:03:12.460 the entirety of what they did, but for you to also be absolved of the burden of carrying it.

01:03:17.500 Yeah. There's another perspective I've been thinking about because I went on what I called

01:03:21.940 my apology tour earlier this year, and it wasn't a public apology tour. It was apologizing to about

01:03:28.040 a handful of people privately and individually that I had wronged in some way. And what's

01:03:35.040 interesting as I was doing that, I thought to myself, you know, this is hard to, to apologize

01:03:39.220 and to say, Hey, I screwed up or I mistreated you. And, and, you know, here's me acknowledging

01:03:43.740 that and telling you, I'm sorry. But one thing I realized because everybody that I talked to

01:03:49.440 actually took that very graciously and offered their, their forgiveness. But what I realized is

01:03:56.860 that if we can be humble enough to ask for forgiveness and apologize, we're also gifting

01:04:02.120 people the opportunity to learn what it means to be graceful and afford grace to others,

01:04:08.240 which is a good gift that is, is, is worthy of practicing, I think.

01:04:13.560 Oh, I, I completely agree.

01:04:16.080 And I think it's also something where I obviously, obviously the goal is to, is to never, is

01:04:22.040 to try to not hurt anyone or make any mistakes, but it happens, but there's something magical.

01:04:26.940 There's something truly just uplifting that happens when somebody comes to you.

01:04:30.700 when you've been wronged, and it's clear it is,

01:04:34.160 and you're wondering, do they even get this?

01:04:35.400 And they're like, hey, I screwed up.

01:04:37.180 This is my bad.

01:04:37.980 I apologize.

01:04:38.980 It's almost like it awakens that desire to forgive

01:04:41.560 and that desire to reconcile

01:04:43.060 in a way that it's very, very hard to do otherwise.

01:04:46.560 And to your point, also having your own maturity to do it.

01:04:52.320 And by the way, this is something I write about as well,

01:04:55.480 and I encourage this with dads.

01:04:56.620 It's like, if you hold up a high standard, which you should,

01:05:00.420 Eventually, you're going to break it.

01:05:01.480 When you break it in front of your kids, the question is going to be is what happens?

01:05:04.200 What happens when they call you on it?

01:05:06.240 Now, they should be respectful, right?

01:05:07.860 They should be respectful.

01:05:08.440 But I've had that instance before where my kids look at me and go, my dad, I don't think

01:05:13.480 you handled that well, and this is why.

01:05:15.660 And if you could look at them in that moment and say, you're right, and I'm wrong, and

01:05:21.220 I want to thank you for having the courage to bring it to my attention, that reinforces

01:05:27.700 something in them.

01:05:28.520 and it reinforces it and the people that you actually do this with that you really do believe

01:05:32.360 that there is a there is a standard of right and wrong that you hold yourself to and that they can

01:05:37.560 hold you to if necessary um there's something that strengthens a relationship with other people when

01:05:43.680 we know that there's a standard outside of ourselves that we can both appeal to

01:05:46.780 and that the desire is not to defeat the other person the desire is for both people to be better

01:05:52.420 yeah um and and when you do that and when you do that in genuine love and sincerity that builds

01:05:58.580 bonds that are just incredibly strong it's powerful it's powerful well i know we didn't

01:06:04.500 talk a whole lot about the book the book is the man book but i liked the i like the the subtitle

01:06:09.700 point by point guide to sucking it up and getting the job done i'm like yeah if there's a good

01:06:15.180 descriptor of what it means to be a man i would say that pretty much sums it up right there

01:06:19.540 yeah tell the guys about it where do we where do we pick up a copy and all that kind of stuff

01:06:24.640 sure sure well it's officially dropping on on april 14th uh you can pre-order pretty much

01:06:30.780 anywhere up up until that point uh but yeah it really is there it's a bunch it's like 52 very

01:06:37.160 short chapters and it goes into anything everything from how to how to effectively argue with your

01:06:44.300 wife how to have that that difficult discussion with your wife uh differences in raising sons

01:06:48.940 and daughters, how to defend your faith. It talks about things within the political realm,

01:06:53.300 second amendment rights, how do you effectively defend them? But then I also had other stuff

01:06:56.640 that I think guys need to know, like how to properly kick a door. So you look cool instead

01:07:00.740 of stupid, because you know, this you get, you kick a door, right. You look awesome. You kick 1.00

01:07:05.440 a door poorly. You look stupid and you potentially get shot. And so I talk about stuff like that. 1.00

01:07:11.240 I talk about how to pit a car because you never know, you never know when you might need to pit

01:07:14.620 a car or hotwire a car. So I talk about a good, a good combination of, of, you know, kind of like

01:07:20.980 deep, meaningful, theological, philosophical stuff, but then all just kind of like practical

01:07:24.960 stuff, right? You know, how to, how to cook a steak. And by the way, it's rare or medium rare.

01:07:29.960 If you go above that, you have sandwich meat or charcoal. No more, no more. I agree. I agree.

01:07:35.160 It's one of the questions I always ask as a litmus test for who's going to be in my friend

01:07:38.960 circle or not. How do you like your steak cooked? It's got to be medium rare or lower.

01:07:44.620 Yeah. Oh man. Well, and you got the best compliment ever on the book. I think John

01:07:49.980 Lovell said it's the worst coloring book ever. So if there's not a better endorsement of the book,

01:07:54.360 I don't know. I don't know what is. No, no. I, I was, I was honored. We had, uh, you know,

01:07:59.880 John, uh, endorsed it, Chad Robichaud, Kevin Roberts, Megan, uh, Megan Basham. We had some

01:08:04.640 great people that were willing to give us endorsement, but yeah, I was, you know, I,

01:08:07.880 that's on me when, when I sent it to John, I didn't even warn him that there would be no

01:08:11.700 coloring for him. And so I understand his frustration. I understand his frustration.

01:08:16.380 Well, in coloring books are about his speed. If you put too many words in it, he may not get it.

01:08:20.200 So that's not true. He's actually one of the smartest people I know. So he really, he's a,

01:08:25.720 so he's a, he's a very smart guy. He's a very funny guy, which I find coincides a lot. Um,

01:08:31.480 but yeah, we've, we've gotten to know John and Rebecca over the last year or so. And we have,

01:08:36.060 we have our, like our friendly rivalry, uh, which has been a, which is, we have a lot of fun with

01:08:40.420 that. I love it. I think it's hilarious. It's, it's, it's, it's perfect. Well, good. Well,

01:08:46.100 Nick, we'll sync everything up. We'll let guys know where to go. Just want to let you know,

01:08:49.600 I appreciate you. Um, with the information you put out, I watch your videos on Instagram and

01:08:53.960 everywhere else. And you know, the fact that we are able to have these conversations and talk

01:08:58.120 about what it means to be a man. Um, it's an honor for me, but just to see what you're putting out

01:09:02.460 more men need to hear it. And I just want to thank you for taking time with me today.

01:09:06.140 Oh, no, it's my pleasure. And thank you for what you do, Ryan. Thank you for having these

01:09:09.160 discussions. Again, I've long before I was in social media, I knew about order of man. So I

01:09:13.900 appreciate the work that you've done and the, uh, the grind to make it happen. No doubt. Thanks

01:09:18.220 brother. All right, you guys, there you go. My conversation with Nick Freitas. I've had him on

01:09:25.520 the podcast in the past. This one was even better. Go pick up a copy of his book that is coming out

01:09:31.200 very soon. The man book, a point by point guide to sucking it up and getting the job done. Follow

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01:09:54.660 somebody half a million subscribers is my goal this year i think we can do it but i need your

01:09:59.280 help to do it and we need to all be engaged in the fight to reclaim and restore masculinity

01:10:05.380 Also, if you're around in Frenchtown, Montana, April 11th, that's this weekend,

01:10:09.580 go to montananifecompany.com.

01:10:11.800 You can find the details there, and I would love to meet up with you if you get the chance.

01:10:16.940 All right, guys, that's all we've got today.

01:10:18.660 We'll be back tomorrow for an Ask Me Anything.

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Order of Man - April 07, 2026

NICK FREITAS ｜ Why Modern Men Are Deflated, and What to Do About It

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