One Powerful Strategy to Build Influence with Others | FRIDAY FIELD NOTES
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In this episode, Ryan talks about what it means to be a man and what it takes to be one. He discusses the importance of leadership and how to become a better man. He also discusses the role of being a leader.
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You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest, embrace your fears, and boldly chart
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your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.
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You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. This is your life. This is who
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you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done,
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you can call yourself a man. Gentlemen, what is going on today? My name is Ryan Michler,
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and I am the host and the founder of this podcast and the order of man movement. I want to welcome
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you here, whether you're here for the first time, or you've been with us for any amount of time,
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you're in the right place. If you're a man and you want to improve, and you're trying to level
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up your capabilities and be a better father, husband, business owner, community leader,
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in promoting the visibility of the show. And guys, it really isn't just about the visibility.
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It's about getting more resources and information and ideas and insights into the hands and minds of
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the men who we need to step up fully and become as capable as they possibly can. That's what the show
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is dedicated to. And that's what I've been doing over the past five years. Now we do that via this
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podcast. We've got some incredible conversations with guys like Jocko Willink and David Goggins,
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Grant Cardone, Andy Frisilla, Dakota Meyer, Tim Kennedy, John Eldridge. I could go on and on.
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The men we've had join us is absolutely incredible. And I've got some great ones coming down the pike
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as well, including the New York times bestselling author, Mark Manson of everything is F'd and the
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subtle art of not giving an F. So that is a very great conversation that will be coming down the
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pike. Like I said, in the next, I believe couple of weeks. So stay tuned and subscribe for that one.
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Guys, I want to talk with you about influence today and how to improve your level of influence.
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Now, when we talk about what it means to be a man, there's a few tenants that I believe
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lie at the foundation, the root of what we are supposed to be doing. And if you've been with us for any
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amount of time, you know, exactly what I'm about to say, that is to protect, provide, and preside.
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Preside is synonymous with leadership. Now, in order to protect, provide, and preside, you need to be
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able to influence other people. You might be able to get some compliance from people, depending on your
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position of authority and the position within a company or your family structure, your kids, for
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example, or your employees might comply because they're compelled or obligated to do that.
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But leading people is about getting them to voluntarily follow you. It has to be voluntary.
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Otherwise, I don't really believe it's, it's leadership. It might be dictatorship or tyranny,
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but it isn't voluntary leadership. And in order to persuade people, to influence people, to
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voluntarily follow you, you actually need to be worthy of, of being followed. Otherwise people won't.
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Uh, my friend, uh, Brett Bartholomew talks about this. He talks about the difference between
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compliance and commitment. Compliance is just getting somebody to do something because you have
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that position of authority. You can get an employee to do that task because the fear of them getting
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fired or losing, losing their job or something like that, uh, is what's looming over their head,
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right? Uh, commitment on the other hand is they are extremely bought into the idea of following you
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because they believe that you can lead them to somewhere that they cannot get to currently on
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their own. That's what it means to be a leader. And your ability to influence is largely determined
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by two things. Uh, I'm only going to talk about one today, but I'll tell you what the two are. Number
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one is leading by example. You have to lead by example. You cannot lead somebody to somewhere
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that you are not currently yourself, or you're not on the path to going in that direction because
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leadership starts up front. So if you're not up front, you're behind or you're pushing, or you're
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in the middle of the pack somewhere, then you, you aren't leading. Now you might be instructing,
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you might be guiding, but you're certainly not leading. Okay. So for you to lead, you have to be
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out front, which means that if you're talking with people about improving their, uh, physical, uh,
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exercise and their physical strength and stamina and conditioning, then you need to be in physical
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shape. You, you have had to have gone first leaders go first. Uh, you have to lead by example.
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If you want to lead effectively, you have to lead by example. And all of us know that boss, uh, that,
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that, that coworker, that team leader, the individual, the coach, the mentor, whoever,
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who we know was completely full of crap. They may have been in that, that position of authority.
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They may have had the title, but they certainly weren't a leader and we complied. But when we talk
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about compliance, it's just doing the bare minimum to get by not to get fired or lose your job or get
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reprimanded. It's the bare minimum. It's not what we're looking for from our people. We're looking for
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commitment, putting in the maximum amount of effort in order to produce the desired and effective
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outcome that we in the team is after again, whether that team is your family or your business,
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wherever, wherever it is. Okay. So you need to lead by example. That's number one, number two,
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and this is really the root of what I wanted to talk with you about today is your ability to
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communicate effectively. I think this is something that is so overlooked, uh, and misunderstood and
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misconstrued. And you hear the ideas of the, the, the zero F's mentality. And if this person
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doesn't understand what I'm saying, that's their fault, not mine. And yeah, I mean, there's some
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situations where maybe that's true, but if you're the one communicating a message and you want to
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influence or inspire somebody to do something, to engage in some level of behavior, then it is upon
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you as the leader, as the one communicating the message to ensure that that message is being heard
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and understood and received in a way that will produce effort that will push them towards the
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direction that you want to influence that individual to go. Now, yes, they have some level
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of responsibility and ensuring that they are capable of, of comprehending that they're looking for nuance
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and context and understanding what you're trying to say. But guys, as leaders, we can't control what
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other people are doing. We can only influence. And we do that by improving ourselves. When we are more
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influential, then people are more bound to follow us. So your ability to communicate a message
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effectively is going to spell the difference between success and failure for your kids, for your
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wife, for your teammates, your colleagues, your coworkers, whoever it is. And I was on, I was on
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Facebook earlier this morning and somebody had made a comment. Now, granted social media is, you know,
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not the best place for having healthy dialogue. I don't know what it is, but social media just brings
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out the worst in people. Well, I, you know, I think it has something to do with the, the ability for
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people to be anonymous, right? They can hide behind their keyboards and they don't have to actually
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have any sort of consequences or ramifications of the things they say. So they just get nasty
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and, and, and they lose all levels of, of civility. So I had this, this interesting exchange. I had made a,
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a new post on, in our Facebook group, which by the way, if you're interested, you can find it,
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facebook.com slash groups slash order of men. And I recorded a video, an introductory video,
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and just let the guys know what the Facebook group is all about, what we're doing here,
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what we're trying to accomplish. Here's some of the guidelines and instruction, et cetera, et cetera.
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And everybody's like, cool. You know, thanks. Appreciate the insight. Thanks for the feedback.
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And this one guy comes back and he says something to the effect of, you know, well, interesting
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because all of this stuff is, is regulated through you. And I'll probably just get removed just for saying this.
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And it's, it's, it's very telling when you have an individual communicate that way.
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This is, this is an individual who is, who's passive aggressive, right? They've obviously got
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a problem with something, but they either never learned how to address these things assertively
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or they just aren't interested in having an adult rational conversation, but it's, it's, it's, I was
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going to say it's funny. It's not funny. It's disturbing how often I see grown men who are
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incapable of communicating with a healthy, mature, masculine level of assertiveness. So what I wanted
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to do today is I wanted to break down the four communication styles, talk about the pros and
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cons of each of these communication styles, and then give you some strategies for how you can move
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into the most effective communication style, which will ultimately help you feel better about who you
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are as an individual and help you lead more effectively as the father and the husband and the
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business owner and the community leader and the type of man that you're showing up, or at least have a
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desire to show up as. And if you undercut yourself at every turn by the way that you communicate and
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you weren't aware of it, you don't know how to be mature in the way that you communicate, then you're
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going to fall into a lot of traps along the way. And you're probably going to wonder why you're not
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experiencing the results that you're after. Why don't your kids listen to you? Why does your wife
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not respect you? Why do your teammates or, or subordinates do just the bare minimum to get by?
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And it's easy to blame them. Oh, you know, my kids, they're just, they're just rowdy and they're
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out of control. And my wife has no discipline for them. And my wife, she just doesn't appreciate me
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because she doesn't see all the hard work and employees are horrible. And they're just, they're
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all millennials and they're just trying to do whatever they can do to not have to work. It's easy to go that
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route. And some of that actually might be true. That's why it's the trap, because we believe that maybe
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some of that stuff is true and maybe it has some validity to it. But how often are you willing to look
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at yourself and say, Hmm, I wonder if the reason my kids don't listen to me is because I'm not worth
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listening to. I wonder if the reason that my wife doesn't respect what I'm doing is because I'm not
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communicating effectively what it is I'm doing and how I am actually serving and leading the family.
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I wonder if the reason my employees don't follow me or at a minimum, just do exactly what is necessary
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to get by and nothing more is because they aren't interested in being led by me as the supervisor or
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team leader or whatever of, of the organization. Like what if instead of putting the burden of
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responsibility on everybody else and all these external resources and circumstances that we can't
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control, we took it upon our own shoulders and we said, what can I do to fix my ability to communicate
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effectively? So let's break this down. The first communication style. Number one is aggressiveness.
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All right. We, we all know the aggressive jerk. He railroads people. He bulldozes people. He's the
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red personality. He's the quote unquote alpha, right? And anybody that gets in his way or doesn't
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understand is an idiot and a moron. And he just railroads people and he just pile drives them in every
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opportunity that he can. And here's the, here's the trap. This guy actually gets a lot done.
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The aggressive guy gets a lot done in the short term. He can move the team along. He can push them
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along. He can, he can get them going. He can produce the results. And what happens is those results get
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produced immediately. And then this guy, because of his ego and look, I've fallen in this trap before too,
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but the guy, because of his ego believes that this is the right way to communicate.
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If I can just be a bully and I can just be aggressive and I can just run people over,
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then people are going to do what they're supposed to do. And they're all idiots anyways. And I'm the
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only one who knows how to do this. So I'm just going to keep being aggressive. And what you end up
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seeing is that in the short term, this individual produces results, but in the longterm, nobody likes
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him. And then they start teammates or employees or family members start to undermine his authority and his
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credibility. This is where like mutinies take place. And people go around the chain of command
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because you have undermined all trust, authority, and credibility. Yes. You got the short-term result,
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but in the longterm, nobody likes you. Nobody wants to work with you. Excuse me. And everybody's
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going to put forth inferior effort. If you're the aggressive communicator, the trap that you're going to
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fall into is believing that because it worked in the last week or the last month, that somehow that is
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the right way to communicate. And I'm just telling you right now, it isn't, it isn't, it is an effective
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way to communicate. It's, it's, it's damaging. It's destructive to the people you care about.
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And it's destructive to you and the results that you're trying to produce. So that's the first
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communication style. The second communication style is passive. Now we all, we all know the passive
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guy too. He's weak. He's timid. He's cowardly. He's pathetic. He lets people railroad him.
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Uh, he he's overly nice. And please don't misunderstand me. Cause a lot of people do when
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I say nice, like I'm not saying it's bad to be nice. Okay. But I think there's a difference
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between being kind and being nice. When I'm talking about being nice, I'm talking about allowing
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yourself to get railroaded, to get bulldozed, to never voice your opinion, to never, uh, have any sort
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of, uh, disagreement or discontent and to let everybody else dictate the tone of the conversations.
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And frankly, dictate your life. What a sad way to live. I've been, I've been this guy to some degree,
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uh, more generally I fall into the aggressive by default, but you don't want to be the nice guy.
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Uh, there's a great book called no more, Mr. Nice guy that you ought to check out. Uh, this is for the
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passive individual, the guy that allows himself to get railroaded and pushed around and beat up and
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banged up. And then he wonders why, uh, nobody respects him. Nobody trusts him. Nobody listens to him.
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He doesn't produce the results he wants. He doesn't have the life that he's after. And he can't
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figure out why, because he, Oh, he's so nice. Like, I don't know why people don't like me. I'm
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always so nice because people, especially those who are looking to be led aren't looking for nice.
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They're looking for capable. They're looking for proficient. They're looking for leaders who are
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going to get the job done. Not the nice guy. Like people just don't want to generally just feel
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fluffy and nice. They want to get the job done. So you got to be careful of being that passive guy.
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All right. Now the third communication style is the passive aggressive. The passive aggressive is
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the jokester. He's the sarcastic one. He's the one who is, is weak. All right. He's weak. He's timid.
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He's cowardly, but he doesn't want to be that way. And so instead of being passive, he thinks that
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he's going to manufacture, fabricate some level of aggressiveness and believe that that fake
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aggressiveness will cloak his weakness. Think about that for a second. The passive aggressive
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is a weak link. All right. He just thinks that if he communicates in an aggressive tone, that it'll
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offset his, his timidness, his weakness. And so he's trying to disguise who he really is by taking
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it to the extreme. These are the guys that have a joke for everything. They can't take anything
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seriously. They have to laugh and joke and mock and ridicule. If they see something wrong, they can't
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just come out and say, yeah, I don't agree with that because X, Y, and Z here's why they don't like
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confrontation because they're weak. Weak people don't like confrontation. Even something that is
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perceived to be potentially controversial or confrontational. They don't want any of that.
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So because they're feeling like that, they think that they can ward off by attempting to be overly
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aggressive. This is a very immature way to communicate. And, and the underlying thread between
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the three that I already shared with you. So aggressiveness, passiveness, and passive aggressive,
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the underlying thread is immaturity. These are men who are immature. They, they have never learned how
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to communicate effectively. Potentially they've never been around an assertive communicator. A lot
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of the times, even some of these guys, especially the, the passive communicator will interpret
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the assertive communicator as being aggressive. And also what I've seen is a lot of the passive
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communicators have spent a lot of time around women. They have, they've learned from women.
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They were raised primarily by their mother and the school system. And so they're passive. Now I'm
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not saying women are passive by default, but I'm saying a woman, a woman, excuse me, a woman's
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communication style is less confrontational and argumentative and disagreeable than men. Generally,
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I know there's exceptions to that, but generally women are less disagreeable, less confrontational
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than men are naturally. I mean, we, we anecdotally, we understand that scientifically it's even been
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proven as well. So the guys who, who are one of these three ways, aggressive or, or passive or passive
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aggressive, especially if they're passive generally spent a lot of time around women and they interpret
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assertive behavior, which is the fourth communication style as being aggressive, as being
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intimidating, as being scary. And so you'll see it. If a guy, an assertive communicator brings
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something up, they'll backpedal, they'll back up. They don't want any confrontation. I've, I've had
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people that I've worked with who have said things behind my back. And then when I say something
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directly to them, because I try to be an assertive communicator, Oh no, no, no, I didn't say that.
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And what I meant and they backpedal, right? Cause they're, they're afraid of that confrontation.
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Guys, the point that I'm making here is we need to learn to mature in our level of communication.
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When we're dealing with people online, when we're dealing with our children or our wife or colleagues
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or coworkers, or even a boss, and we mature by moving into the next level of communication, which
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is assertive. This is the way that men communicate and anything outside of assertive communication is
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boy-like behavior. It's childish, it's immature, and it is not how men communicate. The way that you be
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assertive is that you begin to share what's on your mind. You begin to communicate your thoughts. You
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begin to express your disagreements and your discontent, not in a way that undermines, but in a way that
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actually helps another individual. This is the power of assertive communication. If you're assertive, it means
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that you have other people's best interest at heart, that you want them to succeed, that you want them
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to win, that you want to teach them and guide them and instruct and coach and help them get to a place
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that they could not have imagined going on their own. An assertive communicator is not selfish. If
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anything, an assertive communicator is selfless. He communicates in a way that is going to be most
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receptive for the individuals that he's attempting to serve. That's why you communicate that the way,
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the way that you do. I want my children to be successful. I know that if I'm going to be passive
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aggressive with my kids, they're going to resent me. I'm potentially going to embarrass them or upset
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them about a situation. And then they're not going to learn, or they're going to be conditioned into
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behavior that isn't conducive to their own results and their own success. If I'm aggressive with them
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and railroad them and bully them and bulldoze them, they're going to be timid and cowardly and weak,
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like a dog who's been beat. If on the other hand, I'm assertive with them and I show them
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what they're doing right and what they're doing wrong and how they can improve it. And I do it
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with a level of empathy and understanding and even kindness and compassion, but also being able to
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share what needs to be shared, then I'm serving them. I'm giving them the tools and the conversations
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and the resources they need to improve upon their life. And I don't care if it's your kids or your wife
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or your colleagues or your coworkers or whoever. So I'm going to challenge you today with some
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things. I want you to take an inventory of your communication style and you're not going to turn
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this into me. You're not going to turn this into anybody else. Maybe talk about it with your wife
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or your kids or the people who are closest with you. Ask them, how do I communicate? And which camp
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do I most often fall into? Because look, we can all fall into all four. And I'm not saying that I
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don't fall into being passive or aggressive or even passive aggressive at times. I do. I'm not above
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that. I haven't completely mastered that. I don't know if I ever will, but I'm conscious about moving
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into assertiveness. So the first challenge I'm going to issue you guys today is to take inventory
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of your own life and ask yourself, what camp do you fall into most often? Be as objective as possible
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because nobody's grading this. It's you. Like you can fool me. You can fool everybody else, but you
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can't fool yourself. And you certainly can't fool the people who are closest to you. Okay. That's number
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one challenge. Number one challenge. Number two is I want you to take an inventory with the people who
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are closest to you. That could be your colleagues or a coworker, your children, maybe a neighbor,
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a brother, a family member, your wife, and ask them which camp you fall into most often.
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And don't be defensive. All right. The feedback that you're getting from them is valuable. But if
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you start to defend yourself and you start to say, no, I don't really do that. You're undermining your
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efforts. They're trying to help you. They're trying to serve you and you asked for the help. So don't
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undermine it when they give you that feedback. Say, thank you for that feedback. Is there
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anything that I can do to move into this more assertive camp? And by the way, if you undermine
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them and you make them feel foolish for giving you the feedback that you asked for, then the next
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time you ask for feedback or a favor or some, some, some guidance, they're not going to give it to you
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because they don't believe you you're out of integrity. Okay. Now here's the third, maybe third
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and fourth challenge. There's a book called the assertiveness workbook. If you know that you fall
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into one of the three camps I first talked about aggressive, that you railroad people passive,
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that you let people railroad you or passive aggressive, that you're weak, but you're trying
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to disguise and cloak it as being strong. Then I would challenge you to pick up a copy of the book,
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the assertiveness workbook. All right. The assertiveness workbook. I don't think I have
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it back there. I did at one point, but I think I actually lent my copy to somebody or, or, or,
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or mailed it to him. I can't remember. I don't have it, but I need to get it again.
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So go through the assertiveness workbook. And then there's, there's tasks and there's challenges
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and things that you need to do in there that will really help improve you. Um, there's a couple
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little, little things that you can do, um, that might actually help some other little challenges.
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Uh, one is asking for a discount on anything that you purchase, asking for a discount. You would be
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amazed at how much and how quickly that will build your assertiveness. Cause it's scary, right? It's
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intimidating. You want to do that. And there's all kinds of baggage. Like, Oh, if I ask for a discount,
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maybe I'm going to feel, uh, or they're going to interpret it as me being cheap, right? There's
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all this mental and emotional baggage that comes into play, but that will help you practice
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assertiveness, asking for discounts, every opportunity that you can. That's the first one.
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The other one that I would give you as a, as an exercise is saying no to people's requests.
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Not all of them, just things that don't align with you saying no to people's requests without
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offering an explanation. That is very challenging to do because you think you owe somebody an explanation
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and you don't, if somebody asks you, if you can do something and you can't, or frankly,
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you just don't want to, then simply say, no, I'm not going to be able to do that this weekend
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or tonight or whatever it is and leave it there. That's going to be very, very difficult at first,
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but then you'll realize it's not the end of the world. It's not as hard. And you're conditioning
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your ability to be assertiveness with people, to speak what's on your mind, to share the truth,
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but to do it in a way that serves you and other people. Well, I mean, if you, here's one thing,
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if people ask you for favors and you say yes, but you don't really want to do it, you're either
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going to do it in a half-assed manner, which is not good, or you're just going to drop the ball
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and you're not going to do it at all, which undermines your influence, right? Because now
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you're lying. So you told them you would do something and then you don't show up because
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you didn't want to do it in the first place, but you were too afraid to say no. And, and now they
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don't believe you. Like, so what's worse, just saying no in the first place or saying yes.
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And then letting them down and lying to an individual who's relying upon you guys. This
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is a much needed lesson. All right. I know that maybe this one isn't as interesting or fascinating
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as some of the podcasts I've done in the past, but I'm telling you, if you want to lead, you want to
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inspire and motivate and influence other people. And you should, because that third component of being a
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man is all about influence and leadership. Then you're going to need to learn and have to learn how to be
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more effective in the way that you communicate with other people with a level of kindness and
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empathy and understanding. And at the root of it, a desire to serve those people. You don't serve
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anybody by being aggressive. You don't serve anybody by being passive. You don't serve anybody by being
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passive aggressive, but you serve yourself and you serve others by being assertive in the way that you
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communicate your message, your thoughts, your ideas, uh, and, and the things that you want to share with
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people. All right. So we're going to sign out with that. Uh, you've got some challenges,
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do an inventory on yourself, have the people closest to you, do an inventory with you,
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pick up a copy of the assertiveness workbook and go through those couple of challenges that I issued,
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which was, uh, asking for a discount, every opportunity you can very challenging, believe it
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or not. Some may be challenging for, for more, for some people more than others. Uh, and then also
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saying no without providing any sort of explanation, but there's other strategies and, um, exercises
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that you'll go through in the assertiveness workbook. I hope that helps guys. If you have
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