OoM 011： How to Find, Work With, and Succeed With Mentors with Geoff Woods
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In this episode of The Mentee Podcast, Ryan Michler talks with Jeff Woods about how to find, work with, and succeed with mentors. Jim Rohn has said that you are the average of the 5 people you spend the most time with. The only question left is, are you surrounded by the right people? And it s not even a question of if we should work with mentors, but rather who those mentors should be.
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Jim Rohn has said, you are the average of the five people you spend the most time with.
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The only question left is, are you surrounded by the right people?
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And it's not even really a question of if we should work with mentors, but rather who those mentors should be.
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So our guest today, Jeff Woods, talks with us about how to find, work with, and succeed with mentors.
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You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest.
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Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.
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When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.
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You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.
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This is who you will become at the end of the day.
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And after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.
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I'm Ryan Michler, and I want to welcome you to the Order of Man podcast.
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This show is going to be incredible because of the topic that we're going to cover.
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It has literally transformed my life, and I know if you take this information to heart,
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and most, most importantly, apply what you learned today, it will transform your life too.
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Just want to give you the invite to subscribe to the show.
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I've got about 10 more shows recorded for you guys with some incredible guests.
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So be sure to head to orderofman.com slash iTunes to subscribe there so you don't miss those.
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And of course, leave us a rating and review while you are there.
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Now, before we meet our guest today, I want you to know that you can check out the notes
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for this show at orderofman.com slash 011 as in episode 11.
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Jeff is the host of The Mentee Podcast, and his goal is to document his personal journey
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from being an employee to becoming an entrepreneur.
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He highlights the conversations that he has with high-level mentors.
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He's become an expert at showing others how they can upgrade their personal connections
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and, of course, also surround themselves with heavy-hitting mentors.
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This man is truly a giver, and he truly practices what he preaches.
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We've had the occasion of talking multiple times and always blown away by his ability to give
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and the knowledge that he's going to share with us today.
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Jeff, hey, I'm so excited to have you on the show today.
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So we don't know each other real well, but from the conversations we've had, I've really enjoyed
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what we've talked about, and you're all about finding mentors and developing relationships
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with other people who can help us get to where we want to be.
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Tell me a little bit about why that work's important to you and how you got into it.
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My day job is medical device sales, which is a job I love.
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But at the end of 2013, one of my colleagues, he was 35 at the time.
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But that just shook me up because here I am, wife, baby, mortgage, going, holy crap.
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What happens to my wife and family if something happens to me?
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And what happens if something happens to my job?
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And in the very next week, my company makes a change to my commission structure, and overnight
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Yeah, so in that moment, I'm just like, holy crap, we've got to start building passive income
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And at that time, I heard the Jim Rohn quote that you are the average of the five people
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And I'm going, who are my five, and are they where I want to be?
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And so I set out on this journey just to surround myself with people who are where I want to
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And in a very quick period of time, all of a sudden, I'm being mentored by high-level
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CEOs, really successful entrepreneurs, and these guys are pouring into me on a consistent
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And when you have people at that level guiding you directly, it's amazing how fast you accelerate.
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And that's why I launched my podcast, The Mentee, just to document my journey going from employee
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to entrepreneur, building passive income on the sides, and recording the actual conversations
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that I have with these mentors that most people never get to have.
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Well, the reason I like your podcast so much is because in listening to it, you can tell
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that you're genuinely interested in hearing what it is they have to say.
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And I kind of feel like I'm in the room with you guys gaining all this knowledge.
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How did you get in front of these top-level CEOs and go from, here's my five average guys,
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two, now I'm working with these powerhouse, successful men.
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And this is really where I want the value to be for you, the listeners, today.
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My hope is that after listening to this interview, you'll be able to press the pause button and
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take a few specific actions that will actually get you results, which is fun.
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So it started by taking a step back and just getting clear on what it was that I wanted.
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You know, I'm in this moment where I know that I have to build passive income, but what
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And I knew at that time that I wanted it to come from real estate investing.
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So right away, I just started trying to take down properties, getting in escrow, out of
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I wasted a ton of time, a ton of money and hardship, both emotionally, mentally, you name
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And then I'm going, all right, I've got this quote.
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Wait, I'm the average of the five people, I'm the average of the five people.
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Oh, wait, how many real estate investors do I hang out with right now?
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So that's step one, finding out what it is you want, right?
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So in everyday conversations, when people say, what's up, Jeff, or what's new, or what's
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It's a standard way to start a conversation, and it's a waste of time, frankly.
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I encourage you, the listeners, after you get clarity on what it is that you want, start
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And the subtle shift is just when people say, what's up, Brian?
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You say, you know, a lot recently, I've been interested in getting into real estate, and
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I want to surround myself with successful real estate investors.
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Why did you decide that would be the direction you would head initially?
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I read Rich Dad, Poor Dad when I was a kid, and I crush audiobooks like it's my job.
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And I forget what the stats are, but like 98% of the ultra-wealthy get their money from
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So real estate is a backbone of every Uber successful person's portfolio.
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Hmm, should I reinvent the wheel, or should I just do what's already been proven to work?
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And the funny story, the very first time I did this in terms of talking about it, I was
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in front of this guy who is a pretty heavy hitter himself, and I'm nervous to meet with
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And the first words out of his mouth are, what can I do to help you?
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And I just spat it out so nervously like, I'm looking to get into real estate, and I
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want to surround myself with successful real estate investors.
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And the guy sits back in his chair and just starts rocking back and forth, and I can tell
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I go to his house, and he introduces me to Dave Michael.
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I learned that Dave has done over 10,000 transactions in his career.
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The guy is a multi, multi real estate investor, multi, multi-million dollar real estate investor,
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You fast forward six months from there, and now I'm a partner with him, and we own a building
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So have you, has it all been success for you in real estate?
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Well, this is the first project we've done, and so far it's looking really good, but this
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is the value surrounding yourself with the right people.
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A lot of people talk about, oh, I lost so much in real estate, and it's like they didn't
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Dave won't buy a building or a property if he doesn't get it for 50 cents on the dollar.
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If it's over 50 cents on the dollar, he does not buy it.
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Because no matter what happens in the economy with the market, if he buys it for 50 cents
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on the dollar, the thing is still going to cash flow.
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You know the numbers when you're getting in, and that's what the most successful investors
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And so I would have never had access to a deal like this if I didn't start focusing
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And very quickly, I realized that I want to be in real estate as an investor, but I don't
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And I just continued down this path, and the path is being illuminated for me on what I
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You would have never had access to that, but then you also, even if you did have access to
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it, you would have messed it up because you didn't have somebody there walking you through
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the obstacles and pitfalls that you could have avoided by working closely with somebody
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So why do you think men are not very deliberate about this?
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I know I've heard this quote by Jim Rohn that you talked about, you are the average of the
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But I think we get into very comfortable, very habitual lifestyles, and we surround ourselves
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And as guys, we just aren't deliberate about who we should be spending our time with.
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I don't think it's, well, number one, it is not taught in schools.
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So it's just, it's not pervasive in our culture.
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I mean, ever since you were born, you've been put in circumstances and you end up forming
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relationships and all the, most of the friendships you have right now, I call them your friends
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You happened to grow up down the street from them, or you happened to go to school with
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They happened to be in your fraternity in college.
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Those are friends of circumstance and not to say that they're bad people, but they were
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I'm asking you to say, where do you want to be when you grow up?
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Where do you want, what do you want your life to look like?
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Do you, do you want to be earning a million dollars?
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Do you want to be earning a hundred million dollars?
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Are the people you're hanging around with, are the people that you are seeking advice
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You need, and I'm not saying you don't, you, you nix all your friends and they're out
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of your life, but I'm saying that when it comes to seeking counsel, seeking advice on
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what you should be doing, you need to ask it from people who are qualified to answer.
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And those are only the people who are where you want to be.
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You know, what's funny is I'm a financial advisor by trade and I can't tell you how often
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I've, I've given somebody a strategy or a financial plan.
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And then they've said, well, let me, let me look it over.
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Let me talk with it with, you know, a brother or a parent or a sibling or whatever it may
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And I always ask the question, tell me about that person you're going to ask.
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Are they in the position financially you want to be in?
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And my knee jerk reaction is, well, why are you going to ask them about this plan?
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And if it's something you should do, they're only going to give you advice to get them to
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There's this guy, he's a professional golfer and he wants to make some adjustments to a
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And so he goes to some of his buddies, you know, they're pros as well.
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And he's going, all right, what do I need to do with my swing?
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And they're, they're telling him, oh, try this and try that and try that.
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The guys he were, he was asking for help on a swing.
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They give him advice on, on what to do with his swing, but it's a completely different
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And he's wondering why he's not getting the results.
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You talked a little bit about how to build the relationships that, you know, those deliberate
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relationships around the people you want to be with.
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Are there some other strategies that you've used or implemented?
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Let's say that I identify somebody who I feel like, you know, I've got to be in front of
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I'm going to have a conversation with this person.
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How do I then reach out and connect with that person?
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So the reaching out and connecting, it's twofold.
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Either a, you get, you find out what types of events or organizations they're a part of
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That's, that's, that is, if you can physically get in the same room, that it will boost your
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But the other is if you have to reach out via email or phone, um, or you know somebody who
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knows them and you ask them to make a connection, referrals are always good.
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You have to be more interested than interesting, right?
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You have to be more interested in them than trying to get them to think that you are interesting.
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And I am willing to bet that for anybody who's listening, if I challenged you to go reach
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out to somebody, your approach would probably be like, this is, this is who I am.
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And then, uh, this is what I'm hoping to get from you.
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So it's, it's very standard because you know what?
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I'm trying to tell them who I am, why I'm qualified, why they would want to spend time
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But what you're doing there is you're trying to get them to think that you're interesting.
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Being interested means asking questions about them, doing a little research ahead of time
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and saying, you know, Ryan, I know you're, I know you come from a financial background that
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you're really focusing on driving order of man and impacting the male population out there.
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And I know that your podcast is just starting out and I wanted to connect you with somebody
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who I think could help you with your listenership.
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Before I do, I wanted just to learn a little bit more about your podcast.
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Could we spend 10 minutes on the phone so I can try to figure out where you're trying
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to go so I can make the right connection for you?
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What are the odds you're going to reply to me positively?
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It's, it's how, how I can exceed, you know, succeed at something that's important for
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So as we met, and I don't know if you, I don't know if you know this, if you remember
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this, but, uh, we connected through, I think we've connected through Facebook, through some
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mutual friends and the very first interaction that you and I had was you sent me either
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a message or a text and you said, Hey Ryan, love what you're doing with the show.
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So you were looking out for me first and leading with value.
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One of my mentors says, if you change the way you look at things, the things you look at
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Look at every single relationship like your bank account.
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Can you go take money out of the ATM if you don't put money in it first?
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You have to make deposits in order to make withdrawals.
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So I wanted to add value to Ryan right off the bat.
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Now in the process, we've been able to form a relationship and now he's adding value to
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me by giving me a platform, his platform to share my message with.
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So here's one of the questions and one of the struggles that I've had personally as
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I've looked to develop relationships with potential mentors in my life.
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If they're exceeding in a certain area, my knee-jerk reaction is to say, great, I could
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I understand that I need to lead with value, but what do I have and what could I offer this
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And this will become a really big question when you start reaching out to really high
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What in the world could I, Jeff Woods, possibly offer this major CEO?
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What in the world do I, what could I give them?
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Again, change the way you look at things, the things you look at will change.
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He was on the founding team of Priceline.com and I point blank asked him, I'd like to look,
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At one point in time, I had mentors who were light years ahead of me and they reached back
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and grabbed my hand and helped pull me forward.
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And I'm at the point in my life now where I feel like it is my obligation.
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It is my obligation to reach back, grab the hand of the next generation of entrepreneurs
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and help pull them forward because I believe they will change the world.
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And so if I can help accelerate their success, then that's value.
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What he is saying and what all of my other heavy hitter mentors have said is that they
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So know that you as a mentee approaching a mentor, you are adding value to them by giving
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Well, and I think I look at successful guys and you and others that I've interacted with
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and I've been so overwhelmed with their desire and ability to help me and want to see me succeed.
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I think we have, just as humans in general, have a tendency to believe that, you know,
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successful people or wealthy people are arrogant or they're jerks or they crush the little guy.
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But my experience actually tells me the exact opposite.
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In fact, if anything, the reason they're successful is because they want to pull up others around them.
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There's a quote, if you want to go fast, go alone.
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There, you know, there are the mavericks out there who just go at it on their own and they'll
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The people who truly have long-term success, they collaborate.
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They add value to others and they take people with them.
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You know, one of the things that I did today is I released a article on orderofman.com about
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17 men's sites, websites that guys should be aware of.
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And I connected with these other 17 website owners and authors.
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And that post, as of today, has more than tripled the amount of visits and views and
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interaction than any other post in the last two months combined.
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And it's all because of collaboration, working with these other guys who are already successful.
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It's helping them because they're getting visibility and it's helping me because they're
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helping me raise that awareness of what we're doing.
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So I can totally see how what you're saying makes sense.
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Let's look at the opposite side of this because I think a lot of the times we know that we
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should interact with successful people and we should look for mentors.
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But then I think on the other side is that there's people in our lives that are holding
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us back, that are dragging us down and we recognize it.
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How do you eliminate or at least reduce your exposure to those who are not helping you get
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And this is all of us are going to deal with this.
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We all have this thermometer, this internal thermometer called our feelings.
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How are we feeling when you interact with somebody?
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If that person drains you, I cannot emphasize how important it is that you make an adjustment.
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We're not even going to get into this today, but I'm just telling you that cutting out the
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If you value your success, if you value, if you want any shot of living the life that you
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Now, I'm not saying cut all the negative people, just goodbye.
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You've got to be able to say, hey, you know, when we talk, I don't feel good.
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And this is what I'm hoping for to get out of this relationship.
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And here's what I'd like to see changed and see how they respond.
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And for the people who don't respond well, you start distancing yourself.
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Maybe you take a few extra days to call them back or you don't call them back.
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You cannot afford to have the negativity in your life.
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The unfortunate thing is oftentimes this comes from family members.
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Those negative relationships are harder to leave than the positive ones are harder to
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So if it is family, if it's somebody who is relational to you and you can't just nix them,
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which I have nixed people out of my life, then you just got to distance yourself.
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But you need to understand how important it is that you do this.
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But by just saying, I don't need to do that, like, again, 98% of the people who are truly
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One of the things that I tell my kids, and especially my seven-year-old, because he's old
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enough to understand what I'm talking about, is I say to him, you've got to live your life
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And I think that's the trap we fall into, is we think that we're just a product of our
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surroundings or what happens to us, and we aren't willing to take responsibility for the
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We are the biggest piece in our own lives, right?
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I want to go back because you said you started asking yourself questions when you realized
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You said you started asking yourself some questions to get you to where you are today.
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What are some of the questions that you were asking yourself?
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You know, what do I really want my life to look like?
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Let's wave the magic wand, and I get to wipe your slate clean.
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All the things on your resume that lead you to the job you have now are gone, and you have
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Assuming money was no object, what do you want your life to look like?
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And when you start to ask those questions, and then, you know, this is where we all get
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hung up, we go, well, I don't know how to start getting there.
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Well, I'm here to tell you what that right step is.
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Start surrounding yourself with those people because they will tell you what the right step
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is, and you can trust that it is correct because they have taken it, and it has gotten
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How would the quality of your life change if all of a sudden, no matter what your goal
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is, you had a network of people around you who could say, you know what?
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You can do it, and I know you can do it because I was where you were.
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These are the steps that I took, and these are the results that I got, and you know what?
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I think one of the things that I personally struggle with is I think it takes some humility
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to be in that situation, and I think by default, I tend to be confident and maybe even arrogant
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I think a lot of men could probably relate with that, but I think humility is the key,
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understanding that, oh, man, maybe I could actually learn something from somebody else
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and then implement it in the way that they would implement it, not the way you would have
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You're touching on something really important, and specifically for this audience being predominantly
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male, you know, we've got egos, big, big egos, and Ryan, you mentioned you listen to my podcast.
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You know, what is one of the things that you really enjoy about it?
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Yeah, well, I like the fact that you're intrigued.
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I can tell that you're genuinely interested in learning and that you're learning probably
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just as much, if not more, than what your audience is.
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So most people, when they get a platform, they want to position themselves as the experts.
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I'm just like you, but the difference is I've got a Rolodex.
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I've got insanely successful people mentoring me, and I get vulnerable.
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I talk about when my bank account is almost at zero and why I'm grateful that I ran out
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And when you hear that, are you like, what's up with this guy?
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I don't like him because he's being so honest and vulnerable.
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You learn to like and trust me because I am vulnerable.
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The moral of the story here, guys, is drop the ego.
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People resonate with each other when you're raw, when you're a human being, not some facade,
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That's the reason when you when you ask, like, why is it that many of us have a hard time
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You need to drop the ego and learn to ask for help.
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Well, and I can see that with you in inside of, you know, even just the name of your podcast,
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You know, most of them out there are the mentor or the coach or the expert or the guru podcast
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Um, one of my mentors, probably one of my closest mentors, his name's Dave Meltzer.
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This guy was the CEO of the company that brought the first cell phone to the United States.
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Then he went on to become the CEO of the largest sports agency in the world.
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And then they went on to make a movie on it called Jerry Maguire.
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This guy is a super heavy hitter and I'm hearing him speak and it is just hitting me straight
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in the crosshairs, like just resonating so deeply.
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I had to approach him and I didn't know what to say.
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And all the limiting beliefs we talked about today, what could I do?
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And ultimately, when it ended up coming out of my mouth when I got in front of him, as
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I said, Dave, first, I want to thank you because your words, they resonated with me deeply.
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And I am going through this point in my life where I'm truly lost.
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And after hearing your words, I think you can really help me.
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And I don't know what I could possibly do to add value to you.
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But if you'd be willing to spend 20 minutes to guide me a little bit, I will find a way.
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Turns out, in the process, I find out we're basically next door neighbors.
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Because I asked him a few months down the road, you know, why did you say yes?
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Here's what's interesting is the way you're getting me to think about this is that, and
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we're talking a little bit about humility and understanding that you can learn from other
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people, is that a lot of the times as men, I think we're supposed to be strong.
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We're supposed to have courage, and we think that if we're prideful or those things, that's
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But what I'm hearing you say is that it's actually probably the opposite way around, is
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I mean, for you to go out and put yourself out and go talk to somebody because it's uncomfortable,
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One person is boasting about their accomplishments and how great they are and how they never
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mess up and all those things, and you're looking at them and you're just going, bullshit.
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The other person sits there and goes, you know what?
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But frankly, I suck at this, this, this, and this, but I'm really good at this, and this
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Who's the person that you think will actually make the moves?
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What are some of the lessons that have really stuck in your mind as you've surrounded yourself
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Are there a handful of lessons that you've heard and learned that you think we need to
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The first one is being more interested than interesting, which, I forget, did we touch upon
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Um, so truly being more interested in others just as, as a lead.
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I consciously think, what can I do to add value to this person?
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What can I do to find out what this person needs help with and try to add value to them?
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And sometimes, especially if you're reaching high for these heavy hitters, you adding value
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doesn't mean that you have the Rolodex for them or that you have the right connections.
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But it's sometimes it's just the offer to show that you're even thinking that way adds
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So let's say we surround ourselves with the right people or we have a mentor.
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One of the things that you said, and I imagine that this is a pet peeve of anybody who's doing
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mentoring, is that they're giving advice, but the advice is not being implemented, right?
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And so are there some other things that, some pitfalls or some things that we just need to
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be aware of or avoid if we actually find ourselves and get ourselves into a mentorship type
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Sorry for making the cow sound, but you really struck a chord there.
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When a mentor spends time with you, they are making an investment in you.
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What is our most precious commodity that all of us have?
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When they invest their time in you, they want to see a return on that investment, just like
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any monetary investment, you want to see a return.
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The return comes in the form of you taking action, you getting results, and you sharing
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And when you say share results, you mean just explain what happened, correct?
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Dave Meltzer spends time with me, and he gives me some guidance.
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I then come back to Dave two weeks later and say, Dave, two weeks ago, you told me that
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I needed to drop my ego, that I needed to get out of my own way, and that I needed to
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And I want you to know how much I appreciate it, because I got these results, and I couldn't
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He's been rewarded for what he's done, and you're giving him that reward, so it's encouraging
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him to continue, if I'm understanding correctly.
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I mean, I give my time out to mentor others, because I believe it's the right thing to do,
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because I get value out of it, but it drives me nuts when I give people counsel, and they
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It's like, dude, I just spent a half hour on the phone with you.
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Yeah, or the other one that I've heard before is, oh, no, I've tried that.
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Like, you give an advice, and they say, I've tried that.
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It's like, well, or I don't think that would work in my case, right?
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Yeah, well, we can unpack that can of worms if you want to, but I don't think you want
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I don't know if we want to travel down that, just based on your response.
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So you're talking a lot about giving feedback and having communication.
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Let's talk about communication, because I think that's something, as men, that we all
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We all need to improve our skill when it comes to communication.
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What are some effective ways to communicate, to learn, and to develop that skill of communication?
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I will start by saying, and if you can remember this, if you can consider this, I think it'll
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help you more than anything with your communication.
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The quality of your communication is the way it is received, not the way it was intended.
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How many times do you go to your wife or your significant other or your friend and say, say
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something, and you mean it with the best intention, and they get offended, or they take it the wrong
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way, and then you get offended because they got offended, and all of a sudden, you're fighting.
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You need to communicate in a way that people get it.
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How do you know if someone's understanding the way that you intended it to come across,
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or how do you know how that person responds to whatever it is you're going to be sharing
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You're not always going to know, but for the most part, you're going to see the response.
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Are they responding the way you imagined them responding?
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Instead of just asking, well, what the heck is wrong with them?
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Ask, what could I have done differently to elicit a different response?
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One of my favorite quotes is, the quality of your life will be determined by the quality
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Somebody told me that, and I haven't looked it up.
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And you know where I heard, ask better questions, get better answers?
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From the guy who was the executive vice president for Tony Robbins and built his business.
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I'm glad you confirmed that with me because I need to know where that is because I use
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I heard it first from Gene, and he's a mentor of mine.
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Obviously, you're surrounding yourself with quality mentors.
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What are some areas of life that you personally have mentors in?
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So I've got general life guidance, and that also kind of spills into the law of attraction
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and creating everything you want in your life rapidly and accurately.
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I certainly have a guy in real estate, Dave Michael.
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I have a guy for Gene, the guy who was Tony's executive VP, is really guiding me on how I
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So he's training me how they trained everybody for Tony Robbins.
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General relationships, mentor, a guy that I go to just to talk about life and how do you
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And I think sometimes, I even think that a mentor, that's like a formal relationship, but
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I mean, there's different capacities for how you could have these quote-unquote mentors in
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At no point in any of these did I drop down on one knee and say, Dave, will you be my mentor?
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My goal was to get a conversation with this person.
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And in that conversation, we set up another conversation and another one.
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And over time, it develops into a mentor-mentee relationship.
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Some of them I talk to once every three months because that's all that I need at that time.
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You know, it's not like it has to be a scheduled, regular thing.
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I mean, some work out well and you hit it off right and you continue to converse and have
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It's not like a, like a defined start date and a defined end date.
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I know that mentors and, and finding the right people to surround yourselves with is a topic
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that's important to me and the guys that are listening to this podcast.
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If they want to learn more about how to connect with you and more about your podcast, how do
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See, the podcast is called The Mentee, M-E-N-T-E-E.
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I put something together for you guys because as I look back on the things, the specific steps
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that I took to land the relationships that I have, I realized that there were really seven
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steps I took to create my seven figure network.
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And so I put together this action guide that you can go through to help you get clarity on
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what you want, where you need to be looking, what you should be saying, and it gets results.
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So all you have to do is go to findthebestmentors.com and you will have that chance to get that free
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And, you know, it'll also take you down a few other web pages.
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And for those of you that it's a fit, you know, my, I ended up interviewing my listeners
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We want something that shows us how to do this.
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And based on their specific feedback, I actually partnered with them to write the content.
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I'm putting together a course and I'm opening it up right now for the next round.
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And so when you go to that website, you'll also have an opportunity to learn more about
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And then what we'll do is we'll make sure we have links to that in the show notes so
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everybody who's listening can find out how to connect with you because I think what you're
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And I don't even know if I prepared you for this question, so I'm going to put you on
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And that is, what do you think it means to be a man?
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I think it means having the honest conversation with yourself to be able to drop the ego, drop
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the facade, look yourself in the mirror and say, what are my strengths?
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And have the humility and the confidence to approach others and ask for help so that you
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can live the life that you want to be living, whether, you know, whether that's in the traditional
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man run household, carry wife over shoulder to bed.
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You know, whatever that dream is to be audacious enough to actually go for it.
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Guys, if you did not take notes for this show, head over to orderman.com slash 011.
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I've got all the links, the notes, the resources, everything that you'll need to get more information
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And if your wheels are not turning right now on who your mentor should be in your life, I
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don't know what else will convince you that having a mentor is a step that every man should
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Now, next week, I've got a very special guest interview lined up.
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I'm not going to ruin the surprise for you, but I will tell you that the conversation is
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And it's going to be all about what it means to be a man.
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