OoM 024： Working Out AND Pigging Out with Chad Holtkamp
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Your level of fitness is a cornerstone of your responsibilities and duties as a man. But if you're anything like me, it can be difficult to maintain consistency at the gym and with what I eat. So this week, my guest and I talk about what you can do to build a consistent nutrition and fitness program, why you should track everything you're doing, and my favorite, how you can eat more pizza and ice cream and still reach your fitness goals.
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Your level of fitness is a cornerstone of your responsibilities and duties as a man.
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But if you're anything like me, it can be difficult to maintain consistency at the gym
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So this week, my guest and I talk about what you can do to build a consistent nutrition
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and fitness program, why you should track everything you're doing, and my favorite,
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how you can eat more pizza and ice cream and still reach your fitness goals.
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You live life to the fullest, embrace your fears, and boldly chart your own path.
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When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.
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You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.
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At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.
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Welcome back to the Order of Man podcast where we talk about all things manly.
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My name, if you don't know this already, is Brian Michler, and I am the founder of Order of Man.
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Of course, we've got a great show lined up as we always do, but I am a bit biased,
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Let me make you aware of a couple of things before we get started today.
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Check it out on Periscope, again, at Order of Men.
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As always, show notes are available at orderofman.com slash 024.
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Lots of insights today and some great resources that you'll want to check out if you can't
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do it right now as you're listening to this show.
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But for now, let me introduce you to our guest today, Chad Holtkamp.
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He is the author of the new book, Workout Pig Out, A Year of Losing Fat, Gaining Muscle,
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and Eating Lots of Ice Cream, which is what we're going to be talking about today.
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What I like about the book is that it is extremely practical.
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He chronicles over a dozen diet and different exercise plans that he followed throughout
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2014 and shares them with us, what worked, what didn't, and also everything in between.
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Chad also runs the blog Home Gym Strong, and he spends a good deal of his time working
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He's a successful recruiter for a large professional firm, but today he is here to talk with us about
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You just wrote a new book called Workout Pig Out, which I'm excited about because those
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So we're going to have a good conversation about it.
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So tell me the premise behind the book that you just wrote.
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Well, the book is a chronicle of a lot of the diet and exercise plans that I followed
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It wasn't planned as a book when I was going through them.
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I try something, see what happens as far as diet, workouts, and then move on from there.
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And I tried over a dozen different plans from the likes of Dan John, Pavel Satsaline,
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And at the end of the year, I was like, wow, I did some really interesting things this year.
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And here we are six months later, and the book is out.
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One of the things that I know about you is that you chronicle and you document everything.
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It seems like you're pretty meticulous about that.
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Because if I'm understanding correctly, it's more of a journal type format of all the things
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It's pretty much kind of a memoir, but more along the health and fitness aspect of things.
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He had Steve Scott on, who is just blowing up Kindle with all of his different books.
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You know, I went to school, and I minored in writing, and that's what I wanted to do for
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Things intervened over the years, and I've been in corporate recruiting for quite a while
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But the desire to actually write is still there.
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And so when I heard Steve's podcast on James's show, I was like, that's kind of cool.
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And then I thought back to, like, what could I actually write about?
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And then I'm like, well, I just did all these diet and exercise things throughout this whole
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So why don't I start there and see what happens?
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Because I'm sure as you were documenting all this stuff, you weren't writing it down in
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So what was the process of transcribing all of those notes and that information over now to
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Well, the thing I've been doing since 2010, since I've been really focusing on diet and
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exercise, is I put all of what I eat and what I work out, my workouts, all in my iPhone.
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And so I have all of these notes from the last five years in my phone.
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I'm like, okay, I looked at what I had done, and I remembered back to the plans that I was
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I remember things that most people probably wouldn't or probably shouldn't.
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It's kind of a curse and a blessing because I don't forget things.
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And so when I was going back through my notes in my phone, I just plotted it out monthly.
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So I just wrote about it and then just went on for the rest of the year.
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Because you said that's when you started documenting this information.
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Was it a culmination of a lot of events that you started to track this or get into better
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In 2010, I had finished up working a crazy job.
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It worked for a great firm, but I was working 50, 60 hours a week.
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I wasn't working out, and I got engaged at the time.
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So I was like, I've got to get in shape for my wedding.
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So I started looking at all these different plans, and I'm like, there's no way I can keep
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So I started just putting everything I ate in my phone, keeping track of things.
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And I started out this new diet, Lyle McDonald had one called Rapid Fat Loss.
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So I went with that and just tried to keep track of all the different things that I ate
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How difficult was it to start tracking everything?
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Were you pretty good from the beginning, or did it take a lot of discipline to continue
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And I actually started doing that on a daily basis in October of 1995.
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So writing down what I eat wasn't that big of a step.
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Actually getting into my phone was probably the toughest part.
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But once you have a few days of meal plans, you just kind of copy and paste and move from
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I know that journaling and writing on a daily basis, at least consistently, is a trait of a
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What have you noticed as being the benefits for yourself in doing that?
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You can just keep track of where you were at a certain period and remember, okay, that worked.
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I want to go back to something you said about memory.
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Or are there some things that you've done to improve your memory?
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That would be a huge skill set for every man to develop.
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You know, I wish I could figure out why or how I can do it.
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Even back in junior high, high school, I could always remember the exact dates, what people
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were wearing, whatever one did, and things like that.
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People used to test me sometimes and like, what happened on such and such a date?
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And I would be able to tell them pretty accurately.
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I know there's some people that can do it to a T.
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I can remember certain dates and things like that.
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Like I said, it's a curse and a blessing at the same time.
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I met a gentleman last year sometime and he said, I can memorize any number at least
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And so I said, okay, you know, let me test you.
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So I wrote it down and I gave him the number and he just jotted it out, just rattled it
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So I know memory is something that can be developed, but it sounds like you had this blessing
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and curse of being born with the ability to remember things.
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So what are some of the things that you have tracked?
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I know you obviously you tracked your workout and some food.
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Is there some specific things that you've tracked that maybe would be beneficial for
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men who are listening to start tracking when it comes to their fitness and nutrition?
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You know, it's really just do it for a couple of days and then keep doing it for more a couple
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And then once you have a couple of weeks in your under your belt, it's, you know, it's
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Once you get in the mode of doing it, you just keep doing it and then just watch, watch
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I also weigh and measure myself as you'll see in the book every week.
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So I know exactly, okay, last week I ate this, I lost weight.
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So you can kind of fluctuate and just kind of pinpoint where you need to tighten things
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Do you weigh yourself weekly or do you do it every day?
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Every Friday morning I get up, that's the first thing I do, weigh myself, take all my
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I think I need to be doing that because I do it every day and it's like my mood is dependent
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upon what I weigh any given day, which I think for guys can vary so much in a 24 hour
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period that it's just not even fair to do that.
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I did it on a daily basis for a while and it was just so all over the board.
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Some people say do it every two weeks, but I just try to do it every week just because
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I'm in that mode and it's the way I've been tracking things for, like I said, the last
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Because I know after a year of doing this, there's times where you've gotten off track
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And how have you gotten back on track and re-motivated yourself to do the right things?
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Originally, the title of the book was On Track and Off the Rails because sometimes that
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Life gets in the way and you just ride through it.
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Like if you're end of the week, you know, like, oh man, I had a really bad week.
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Just get through the weekend and then start over on Monday.
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And then, you know, one week out of a 52 week period is not going to make or break you.
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Let's go to the title of the book, Workout, Pigout.
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It almost alludes to the fact that you can pig out if you work out correctly.
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Give me a little bit idea about the reasoning behind the title of the book.
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A lot of people like to be able to eat, but they still want to look good.
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So you just have to find that balance between the two.
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But at the end of the year, they balance each other around.
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And it's something that, you know, it's a combination of sometimes I'll do intermittent
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And it depends on what the mood is and how my measurements are going and what's really
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You know, if it's something that I'm excited about and celebrate, I'll let loose a little
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But if it's something I need to, like I'm going to the beach in a couple of weeks or
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When you say you work out a lot, what does that mean?
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And I'm doing it, let's see, four times a week.
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I've tried it before with five days a week, but that's just a little too much.
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I'm almost 43 and my recovery isn't what it used to be.
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So I found that four days a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, works a pretty
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Do you work out in the mornings or do you work out in the evenings?
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Originally I started out just focusing on, I have a blog called Home Gym Strong and just
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We have all the weights, barbells, kettlebells, everything like that.
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So originally I was walking on the treadmill for about 30 minutes every morning.
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And then at the end of the day or over lunch, since sometimes I work from home, I would do
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But lately on the 40-day workout plan that I've been following, I've just been working
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out with the weights and the kettlebells for about half hour, 45 minutes in the morning.
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So I'm sure you're familiar with Tim Ferriss, right?
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And obviously he's big into fitness and nutrition, and he talks a lot about just experimenting
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It sounds like that's what you're doing, is you're just trying to do a lot of different
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And like I said, I wasn't planning on writing the book about it.
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It was just something that I've been doing for the last several years.
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And I had the idea, I got the inspiration to write the book.
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So I was like, well, that's something I know and something I can write pretty quickly.
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Let's talk about what I think primarily are the motivators, or maybe not necessarily the
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motivators, but the reasons why somebody, a man would want to work out.
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And the two that I see as being the biggest are, number one, weight loss, and then secondary
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And they're, I don't know, the easiest way for me right now is to stay in shape.
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What are some of the best workouts that you've come across?
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So for weight loss, what are some of the best foods that you've run across as far as losing
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You know, a lot of it's, you know, the standard chicken.
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Uh, I eat a, probably, probably eat more than I should as far as that.
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Probably eat about a pound, sometimes a pound and a half of meat a day.
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And then I also, um, lately I've been adding in sweet potatoes in the evening.
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I'm pretty much addicted to sweet potatoes after listening to some podcasts and things
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I know I was doing the low carb for a while, but adding in the sweet potatoes, just it's
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definitely a, a nice motivator at the end of the workout.
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What are some of the podcasts that you listen to on fitness and nutrition?
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Uh, Ben Greenfield has a really cool one, Ben Greenfield fitness podcast.
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Um, Matt Stone had one, one, one 80 degree health.
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He had Scott Abel on, um, a couple of times and Scott's a really big in the, um, the bodybuilding
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industry, but he's got a lot of sensible, um, ideas around, you know, food and nutrition.
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So I've been trying to add in a little bit more of his, his ideas lately.
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And what we'll do is we'll make sure that we link up all those suggestions in the show
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Cause a lot of times people are listening to this on their way to work, that are working
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And that way you can just go to the show notes and get some of these links and resources
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How about, uh, working out what types of workouts for building strength for building muscle?
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A lot of it's just the, the basic barbell stuff.
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Um, like I said, I have a squat rack barbells, all the plates.
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Um, I was on a program at the end of the last year, um, where I was doing a lot of deadlifting
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and a lot of kettlebell, uh, work and I actually, um, bumped, bumped up my deadlift quite a bit.
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It seems, it seems like lately there's a huge push.
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I mean, I know they've been around forever, but it seems like more and more kettlebells are
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I went through a CrossFit phase and I got introduced to them and then I just kind of
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put them out off to the side because I didn't have them at home.
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Um, and then in, I think 20, late 2013, I bought a set and then an early 2014, which
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Um, I, I took a course through a company called strong first and learned how to actually use
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them properly because kettlebells, they're, they're deceptively simple because they're
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But if you do them wrong, well, like anything, you can really hurt yourself.
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So it's best if you're going to pick up something like that, learn how to use it from somebody
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It seems like they're, obviously they're so free that you could really injure yourself
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if you're not doing it because there's not a lot of structure or support or mechanics
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No, it's all about, you know, keeping your back tight.
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And keeping it straight and instead of bowing it or arching it over.
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I know I do CrossFit and I do it five days a week.
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And so there's a lot of kettlebell movements in CrossFit.
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And I see a lot of guys that really, I mean, obviously you want to push yourself, but they're
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pushing maybe a little too hard at the, at the risk of losing their mechanics, which in
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I, I usually do them in about, um, mostly in sets of 10, sometimes I'll do 15, uh, a
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couple of times that it, uh, sets of 20 just to really get a really killer cardio burn.
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And yeah, I, I prefer the, the, the 10 to 15 rep range per set.
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What are some of the different types of kettlebell workouts that you personally do?
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Cause we do kettlebell swings, which right under your legs, over your head, but I'm sure there's
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an infinite number of rep schemes and ways that you can work out kettlebells.
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For the most part, just starting simple with the kettlebell swing, the two handed kettlebell
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Uh, and then moving to the hand to hand swing, uh, do the, the one arm swing and then do the
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Um, that's pretty much the, the variety that I've been trying with the, um, the latest workouts.
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Um, I, I'm actually training right now for a Spartan race, a beast.
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And, uh, so obviously it's a lot of body weight in the Spartan with the obstacles.
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Um, so we do a lot of strength training and, uh, barbell work.
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What are some of the conditioning things that you've noticed as being successful that guys
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can implement in their, in their workout routine?
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I know a lot of people hate it, but low intensity, steady state cardio on the treadmill, just
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walking for 30 minutes, keeping your heart rate, you know, fairly low.
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I usually try to keep mine around one 20 to one 25 for my age, um, which is pretty low
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So just doing that for about 30 minutes and it's more of a mental thing.
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If I do it first thing in the morning, it's, it's not really a tough workout.
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It's just something I can go downstairs, throw on a podcast or just walk and think and, and
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When you say a lot of people don't like it, why is that?
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There's just a lot of anti, I don't know, the last few years, anti steady state.
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It's just like, it's, it's a waste of time and things like that.
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But it's also, you know, like I said, it's, it's a way for me to clear my head and not
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really have to kill myself first thing in the morning.
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That actually reminds me is I actually like to do yard work.
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And I have friends who'll say, Oh, why don't you just get somebody to do that for you?
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And my thought is, yeah, I could, I mean, I could pay for that.
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That's not a big deal, but it's actually refreshing for me to be able to go out there and like
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you said, clear your mind, not really focus on things that are too difficult and just
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use it as a time, almost like a form of meditation.
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Are there some resources that, I mean, obviously I'm going to make sure that we, we give the
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links for the book, but are there some other personal resources that you're using on nutrition
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You know, lately, like I said, I've been checking out Scott Abel stuff.
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You have some cool thoughts about, you know, adding in, not being afraid of carbs, keeping
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carbs in the diet, um, which is something that I haven't really done, uh, over the last
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It was more, I mean, even, um, like very heavy keto, like really, really low carb, almost
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zero carb for a while, but adding in, um, the carbs back in, I noticed a lot better,
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What are your, what are your thoughts on like the paleo diet?
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You know, I've, I tried, like I said, I started with CrossFit back in 08.
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Uh, I was doing the zone for a while and then paleo started coming in and I like it in theory
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because it's a, it's based around whole foods and things like that.
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But all the stuff around, you know, oh, you can't eat certain things because caveman didn't
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I'm like, and they're like, yeah, you look at all the people in like the, the native
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cultures around the world and, and I look at them and I don't see them as being ripped
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So I'm like, yeah, it's, it's a tool, but it's, and I use it for, you know, concentrating
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on a whole food aspect of things like real food, but I don't get into the whole dogma that
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I can't, I can't do this and I can't do that because it's not paleo.
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So it's interesting to me because eating clean, which is basically the premise of, of
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I mean, it's just, it's just proper nutrition is enough.
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But I think what happens is it's got to be packaged and, you know, productized and make
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And so we wrap words around it, like the paleo diet to make it more marketable is what
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And there's not a whole lot of information out there that a lot of men don't know.
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I mean, basically we know, Hey, we should not eat a ton of meat.
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But then us actually implementing is, is where the challenge is.
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I've even, I started eating carrots again a few weeks ago and I was like, wow, these
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I haven't eaten carrots in years because they're not technically paleo if I remember
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I mean, I, you know, just peeled off a great big fat navel orange a couple of weeks ago
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And it's like, you know, if it tastes good and it comes out of the ground and it's, it's,
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What is, when you talk about pigging out, what is your favorite thing to pig out on?
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Uh, that's part of the, the reason the book is, is subtitled eating lots of ice cream because
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I can just demolish a carton of ice cream in one sitting, um, with, uh, even blinking
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What's the best flavor of ice cream that we need to look at?
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Um, you know, anything gooey with caramel and nuts and either vanilla or chocolate, but
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So I was talking with a friend of mine a couple of weeks ago and he said that there's been
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some studies out and I don't know whether this is true or not.
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And I'd like to see if you know, he said that after a hard workout, science is showing that
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within the first, you know, 30 minutes to 60 minutes after a workout, it doesn't really
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matter a whole lot what you put into your body because of your metabolism and everything
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Um, yeah, but it's, it's one of those things where I did try that a little bit last fall
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when I was getting into the really, really heavy deadlifts.
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Um, I would, you know, open up a carton of, uh, Talenti sea salt caramel gelato and just
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eat a pint of that after I worked out and it didn't kill me.
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I don't know if it was really that great for my body comp, but I sure felt good afterwards.
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As, as you were going through the past year or so of documenting everything and, and, and
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writing it all down, what was, cause you do it in months in the book is you basically
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Did you focus on one metric or one thing at a time and then just study that for a month?
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Um, tell me a little bit about how you decided what you would, uh, focus on and, and, and
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As far as the workouts, um, I pretty much base my workouts around the beach.
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My wife and I go to the Caribbean once or twice a year.
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And then we also go to Florida and spend some time at a beach house in Florida.
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So, um, in April we were going to the Caribbean.
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So January through April, I'm trying to get into beach shape after the holidays.
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So, and then once we get, I, and then once we're at the beach for that week, I don't
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I just eat like crazy, probably gain around 25, 30 pounds just because I'm, I'm putting
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And then I spend the next, um, couple months, you know, trying to, to get back to where I
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was before the beach and then an even better shape.
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And then Labor Day comes up and we're at the beach in Florida.
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And then later on after that, I'm done with beach season.
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So I just concentrate on the rest of the year and trying not to, uh, you know, totally
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But I imagine there's a lot of fitness experts.
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If you haven't run into this already, I'm sure that you will, that, that probably will
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say things like, you know, putting on 20 to 25 pounds and then getting in shape and then
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How does that impact your body from a health perspective?
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You know, I don't have a lot of the blood tests to, to back anything up.
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I just look at my body comp and that was the thing that I noticed over the last couple of
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I would, I would, I would diet down and then I would get back up and then I would diet
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And mentally it wasn't the best way for me to go.
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So lately this year I've actually been trying to not diet down and just kind of keep things
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I mean, I'm not as, as ripped as I was, but I feel a lot better and I'm actually, I think
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It seems to work better for me when I can maintain consistency and that's not just in
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I mean, you name it, that just works across the board.
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For guys, it's really easy for us to lose weight really quickly.
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Like if I wanted to, I could probably lose 10 pounds this week.
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And so, but my wife gets upset about that because she can't.
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And so I found that moderation and then just being very consistent and occasionally I might
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Occasionally I might have a slip, but I think like you said, moderation is probably the most
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Cause like I said, I'm in it for the long haul.
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I'm, I'm going to be 43 in a couple of weeks and I want to live to be a hundred.
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So I don't want to, you know, get, uh, get too far out of shape, but then I have a long
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What was your favorite chapter as you're going through this?
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Like one that stands out to me is vodka and pickles.
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And you wrote, you write about that a couple of times, either tell me about that or was
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there another part of the book that you really enjoyed that we need to be aware of?
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That is actually a workout, um, from Pavel and it's basically, um, heavy deadlifts and,
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and kettlebell swings and just a lot of that leading up to a even heavier workout later in
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the, in the year and in the book, uh, called kettlebells and deadlifts.
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So I started that in October, did that for three months and that was, that was pretty
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It was, it was where I was getting more into the moderation of things.
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I wasn't really worrying about, Oh, I need to lose weight for the beach or I need to lose
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And that was my main motivation for that, um, that three month period.
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So I noticed Chad, that you had a goal of a 405 pound deadlifts.
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So I'd like to know about that because that's actually one of my goals is to break 400 this
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So I'd be really curious as to where you started, what you did and did you make your goal?
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I think I've done 380 or 385 sometime in the past, but I started a little more conservatively.
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So I started the vodka and pickles program, did that for about five weeks.
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Ramped up my, uh, my deadlift to about 385 after that program.
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And then I started on the kettlebells and deadlift program, uh, for the next six weeks
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My goal was to, uh, to hit 405 while we were on, um, Christmas break.
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Uh, went to the gym, actually went to a gym, um, LA fitness and loaded up the barbell.
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That's exciting to, to reach your goals and to hit those things.
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It was, yeah, it was just one of those things for, for someone I'm six, four and about two
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So 405 for someone my size isn't really that heavy, but, uh, cause usually they, they figure,
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you know, double your body weight or two and a half times your body weight or something
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But getting four plates aside for anybody, I think is a pretty, pretty good, uh, pretty good
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Well, and at six, four, you've got a long ways to carry that bar.
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I definitely, I definitely, cause I'm five 10 and I've got short legs.
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And so it's a whole lot easier for me than it is for somebody who's, you know, six inches
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So for guys that are looking at either getting started with some fitness and nutrition that
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are listening to this show, or maybe they feel like they've reached a plateau on where
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What's one or two actionable steps that they can do today to get them on track to what they
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It's easier to start with that and then add in things.
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Um, so if you're, you know, if you're eating crap, stop eating crap, just, just clean it
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up a little bit, you know, whole foods, real food kind of thing.
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Get that in, in check and then just start out slowly, depending on what, um, available
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Like if you have time in the morning, maybe just start walking.
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Um, if you have a little bit more time, maybe, and, uh, and can get to the gym in the morning
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Um, maybe add in some, some barbell stuff or some kettlebell stuff.
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Uh, just really depends on what your time commitment is.
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I know I've been there and in my life, but if you have the time, just start slowly two
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days a week, three days a week, add it up, you know, go from there.
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Do you recommend that with your nutrition as well?
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I mean, you say stop eating junk, is it just a matter of gradually phasing it out or do
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It depends on what your, your, your motivation is.
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If you have the motivation, you can pretty much do a cold Turkey, but if you're just gradually
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I mean, it's not something you have to do overnight.
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Whatever's going to work for you, that's going to be the best way to do it.
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Uh, I mean, if you're, if you're trying to diet for a reunion or a party or a wedding
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or something like that, then you can try a little more, um, fast paced fat loss or whatever.
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But if you're just trying to get in general shape to start slowly, you don't want to burn
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You want to keep it going and have it be something that you want to can do for a consistent basis,
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That's a really good advice is just that consistency is what's going to make it, make it work over
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So I've got a couple other questions as we wrap things up.
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The first question, which I've got to tell you, I didn't prepare you for, so, um, I don't
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want to throw you on the spot too much, but in your opinion, what does it mean to be a
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Um, I look back on my dad, my dad worked for the phone company for 40 years.
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He was a lineman outside summer, winter, didn't matter.
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I never heard him complain about, you know, the weather being cold or the weather being
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And I think that's what we should all aspire to is just live life and get things done.
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Well, it sounds like you're also somebody who's living that by documenting all this stuff,
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experimenting, trying new things, and then of course getting your book out there.
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So congratulations to you for doing that as well.
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So if somebody's listening to this today and they want to learn more about what you're doing
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or pick up the book, what is the best way to connect with you and get access to Workout
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You can check out my website at chadvholtkamp.com and you can just connect with me there.
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I have a lot of different, um, uh, the book is going to be up there.
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I'll also have a link to my homegymstrong.com website.
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A lot of the different fitness tips and things that I've tried over the years are available
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We'll be sure to connect that information in the show notes and let guys know where
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Chad, thanks a ton for sharing that information.
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I know you're busy, so I really appreciate you carving out some time to be on the show
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today and give us some tips on nutrition and fitness.
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I hope that gives you some valuable strategies and insights into how you can improve your fitness
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I know that I really struggle with, and we talked about this a bit in the podcast, which is
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So I'm walking away with some great tips that I know will be really helpful as I prepare
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