OoM 037： Creating Freedom with Entrepreneurship with Ryan Moran
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Ryan Moran is one of the most sought after and respected leaders on entrepreneurship, personal responsibility, and lifestyle freedom in the internet business world. He is best known for helping entrepreneurs develop what he calls the Million Dollar Plan, getting rapid results and investing the profits for passive income. In this episode, Ryan shares with us how to not only use entrepreneurship to fulfill our desire to provide a way of life, but also create freedom for yourself and others.
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There's a natural desire in all men to provide. In fact, it's one of the primary functions of a
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man. My guest today, Ryan Moran, shares with us how to not only use entrepreneurship to fulfill
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our desire to provide a way of life, but also create freedom for yourself and others.
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You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart
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your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.
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You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. This is your life. This is
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who you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done,
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Man, welcome to the Order of Man podcast. I am Ryan Michler, the host and the founder of Order of
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Man, and I'm glad to be back again here with you today. We are having some incredible conversations
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about what it means to be a man. Specifically today, we are talking with someone who's been
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extremely successful in his life about entrepreneurship, providing value, switching
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your mindset, and how to create more freedom in your life. But let me give you a couple of
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resources if you want to delve further into the conversation, the discussion that we'll
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be having today. First, you can find all the links, the resources, the best quotes, the overview
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of this show at orderofman.com slash 037. And second, if you want to dig into this conversation
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make sure you check that out. Guys, today we're talking with Ryan Moran about something I get a lot
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of questions on and that is how to become an entrepreneur and create more freedom in your
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life. He is one of the most sought after and respected leaders on entrepreneurship, personal
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responsibility, and lifestyle freedom in the internet business world. He's best known for
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helping entrepreneurs develop what he calls the million dollar plan, getting rapid results and
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investing the profits for passive income. Now you've probably heard and seen a lot of information
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out there like this, like I have, but what I like about Ryan is that he's able to do all of that
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without being overly hypey or being that annoying salesman, which you'll see how he does that in
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our discussion today. You might also be familiar with Ryan's podcast, Freedom Fast Lane, which is
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one of the most popular business podcasts available today. And I'm stoked to have him on the show.
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Ryan, thanks for joining me. It's a, it's an honor to have you on the show today.
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Hey other Ryan. Good to be here. Thanks for having me, man.
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It's going to make it easy for the guys listening because we've got two Ryans on so they won't get
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confused, right? Well, you know, we have such a rare name. This never happens. So
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well, how old are you? Because I, so I'm 34 and I've got Ryans all over the place at my age. I'm,
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I'm assuming you're probably right around my age too. Is that right? I just turned 28.
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Oh, okay. So you're younger than me, but yeah, still Ryan is, is, has always been a popular name,
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right? Yeah. Growing up, I thought it was a rare name, but maybe I just had a big ego about myself
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and thought I was a rare breed. I only knew one of the Ryan, but now there's a bunch of us. We've
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taken over the world. It seems. That's right. There may be a lot of us, but we're all one of
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a kind, right? Amen, brother. So tell me a little bit about the work that you're doing with Freedom
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Fastlane. This has always been fascinating to me, especially as I started branching off and
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starting this project with Order of Man. I'm really curious about how you got into the work you're
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doing now. Yeah. Well, I, I grew, I came out of the womb an entrepreneur. So my first business was,
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I was five years old. I drew hand-drawn pictures on pieces of notepad paper and took them door to door
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around my neighborhood and tried to sell them for a penny each. That business lasted about one
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evening and I made, I made, I made five cents. My dad was, was two of those cents. And you hit up
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dad and grandma and all of them. I hit dad up first and he bought two of them and he also supplied all
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the ink and notebook paper. So it was a hundred percent profit. Thank you very much. And I always knew I
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was going to be an entrepreneur, but it was when I finally became an entrepreneur, I was, I was 18
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and started my first real business, but it was all about the money. It was all about how much I could
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extract, how much it could take. And I have this goal of, of owning the Cleveland Indians. I'm from
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Cleveland, you know, I'm a glutton for punishment, obviously. And I love, I love my Indians and my dream
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is to own the Cleveland Indians. So I bought into this idea early into my career that I had to take
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and extract as much as possible in order to be successful. And you know what, Ryan, I was,
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I was pretty successful pretty quickly. Sure. But after a couple of years of just pursuing the money
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and pursuing the idea of taking as much as possible, really realized that after a few years,
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all this taking was, was taking me, it was taking my spirit. It was taking my energy. This idea of
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always trying to take just completely burned me out. And I actually hit a point of just total
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burnout, depression, um, at one point was, was even suicidal. Um, I felt like I had achieved
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everything that I thought I could achieve and I was completely empty and broken inside. It wasn't until
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I hit that rock bottom that freedom actually became important to me because I realized, you know,
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we're not after the certain things in our life or actually, we're actually after what those things
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will give us, what emotions, what experiences do we want to feel and experience as a result of having
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those things. And that, you know, sent me on a path of, of personal discovery. And I started sharing
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after kind of a couple of years off of not talking about entrepreneurship, I started sharing about my
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journey more openly and the things I had learned along the way after just completely burning out
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with no agenda or no need to take anything. And my life really took off or my career really took off
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from that point because there was no more need to, to take or extract from people. It was more about
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making the pie bigger and really cool things started to open up for me at that point.
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It's really interesting that you say it's not about the, the money that we have. It's about
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the thing that that, the value that that will provide. I'm a financial advisor by trade. So I
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run into this all the time and people want these large bank accounts. And at the end of the day,
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you ask them what they're going to do with all that money and they have no idea. They just want
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the big bank account. So I really, I can really resonate with what you're saying there.
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Talk to me about the difference between giving and taking, because I think when it comes to
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entrepreneurship, it's a fine line because we are giving value and providing value in exchange for
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something. In most cases, it's money. So talk to me about the difference between those two
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mindsets. Well, I think for me anyway, and I don't know if this is the case for, for every guy,
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but for me, when I'm coming into a business or I'm coming into a project that I'm working on,
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there's just two very different mindsets. And the mindset is, man, we're going to make so much money
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doing this, or it's, here is the impact I'm going to make. And those are two extremes. Usually the
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conversation isn't, you know, that, that opposed though. Of course. Right. It's somewhere in
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between. Yeah. But, but I think, I think the sweet spot is knowing where you provide a lot of value
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naturally. So it's easy to be rewarded generously. And if you're very clear on that, then you can just
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focus on a point of contributing a whole lot of value and money just follows you. A really weird
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thing has happened to me in the last couple of years. And it's as, as long as I operate in that
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sweet spot of here's where I know I can provide the greatest value for my time in one hour, I can
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provide more value than most people can in 10 days. As long as I focus on that sweet spot, money just
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chases me everywhere I go because you are giving a whole lot of value. And so when we, when we
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released from that need to take, I think anyway, you're able to focus on that sweet spot more because
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now you're not attached to the result. And that's true, whether you work a full-time job or you're an
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entrepreneur or you're starting a business or you have an internship, whatever it is, the more you can
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focus on that sweet spot where you know that you provide as much value as possible. That's when
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your life career and income takes off. So if you don't mind me asking, what is the value that you
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provide in that? Like you said, the one hour where I could provide the most value versus somebody else
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who, who couldn't provide the same amount of value in 10 days. And then the follow-up question to that
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is how do men who are listening to this find the value that they can provide and do the same thing
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that you're talking about? I'll answer the second question first. And that's, I don't think
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most people know out of the gate. And that can be horribly frustrating for purpose-driven men.
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We are, especially in today's world where we can specialize in just about anything, there's
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a high demand and a lot of pressure for guys to, to think about, okay, what is like, what's my gift
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or what's my purpose or what's my passion as if there's only one thing. And when we pursue that,
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it eludes us because there is no one thing, there is no, there's no defined purpose for your life.
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I think that is a really damaging, a really damaging thought that there's one route that
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you have to go down. And if you get it wrong, you're screwed. Yeah, right. Yeah. So much weight
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and pressure on everything that we do. There's a, there's a thousand different paths that you can
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take that would be beneficial. Just like there's probably a thousand women out there that you could
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be perfectly happy with. The way that you find it is by aligning where your passions and your talents
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intersect. Well, where is there demand for something that you're both interested in and you are good at?
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And there's, there's 20 of these in your life right now, but in the marketplace, it will reward you
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for any of them as long as there is demand for that thing. For me, it's looking at a business or
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looking at a plan and impacting it very quickly and then getting the hell out of there. So my gift
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is looking at a business and how it's operating or taking an idea and getting it to the 20 yard line
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and then getting out of there and letting the people whose specialty is taking something from
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the 20 yard line into the end zone. So for example, a couple of years ago, I decided I would only ever
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start a business if I was partnered with, I called it an implementer, somebody who loved the process
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of building things and getting things done. Cause I ain't that guy. If I have to sit at a computer
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and I have to actually draw out what we're doing, like I will hate my life. But one of my business
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partners, Sean, absolutely loves that process. And I am absolutely amazed at his ability to get things
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done. And he is absolutely amazed at my ability to sit in the corner and come up with ideas that
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are actually really awesome. So by partnering them and us both focusing on where we're best,
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we're able to get a tremendous amount of work done very, very quickly. So my sweet spot is looking at
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a business or taking an idea and getting it rolling and then getting the hell out of there so that
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somebody else can operate in their sweet spot. And then I'm off to the next idea, the next win.
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So is this just a matter of, let's say, let's say somebody's listening to this and they,
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and they're thinking, yes, I need to find where passion and demand meet. And this is something I
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need in my life. Is this just a process of exploring your passions? How do you find demand? What's,
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what's the process for a guy to step into this idea of the intersection between passion and demand in
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the marketplace? So I have a really hypey and silly mathematical equation that I created for this.
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And it looks like this, your results equal your beliefs times your strategy and execution times
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time. So your results equal your beliefs times strategy and execution times time. And the way that
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works is this. If we want a certain result, we can impact the result by changing any one of these,
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these equations. Right. Any of the variables. Exactly. You know, if you had bought Coke stock,
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um, in 1850 and put like 10 bucks in it, it's now worth like a hundred trillion dollars or whatever
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the ridiculous idea is. And when people hear that, they're like, Oh, I should go buy Coke stock. Well,
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you know what? That's a really interesting strategy, but most of us don't have 150 fricking years.
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Like most of us don't want to wait that long for a certain result. So that there is a result and the
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strategy is a fine strategy. And given enough time that compounding interest will be incredible,
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or we could just explode the strategy and we could get the result with less time in the same way.
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Most people have beliefs that set pretty low targets. So that impacts the strategy that they
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look for or the way that they execute or the time that they're willing to put into something.
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So we can explode either, any one of these variables and we can get a better result,
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but we don't make any progress until we have a really clearly defined and decided
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what result we ultimately want. We have so much information overload. We have so many opportunities.
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We have so much contact to anyone living right now. And that is a blessing. If we align all of that
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towards what we have decided that we want, but we don't get any of it until we are laser crystal clear
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on exactly what it is that we want, because then we can align all of these resources. We can align our
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beliefs, our strategy, our execution, the time we're willing to put into something, our contacts,
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the information is floating around everywhere, the opinions of people. We can align that all into
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what it is that we've decided that we want, but we can't do any of that if we have not clearly defined
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what that thing is or what the result that we want to get is.
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Right. And it's so interesting that you say that because this is a reoccurring trend as I have
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men on the podcast. That is the reoccurring thing is that you've got to define your beliefs. You've got
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to find out what it is you want. You've got to reflect. You've got to meditate. You've got to do
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whatever it is you can to determine what you want first before you start putting these plans into
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place. Otherwise, those plans might just get you into a place that you're not interested in being
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or that you shouldn't be in or whatever it may be. Right. And one thing I want to add to this that
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puts some space and freedom around it is you can change this whenever you want. And it's just
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another decision. I had a coach. It was a female coach that I worked with for about two years.
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And she said something really profound to me. And it was when I first moved to Austin, Texas,
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I actually had a lot of guilt around moving to Austin, Texas, because I had aging grandparents.
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I had my mom is a single mom. My brother has two young nephews. And I felt really guilty leaving
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Cleveland. But I knew I had to do it because I had new paradigms to grow into in my life. And I
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wasn't doing it living where I grew up. And when I moved to Austin, I had all this guilt. And I was
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telling my my mentor, my coach about it. And she said, Ryan, you can move back at any time. And if you
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move back, it will not be failure, it will just be another decision. And this created so much freedom
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and space around what I wanted to do. Because we so often want to define what's the right decision.
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What's the best thing? I'm afraid of making the wrong decision. I'm afraid of starting the wrong
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business, dating the wrong girl, going down the wrong career path. The true answer is that if you
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make a decision and then you want to pivot, you can do that anytime. And it's just another decision.
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And owning that created so much freedom and space around the decisions that I wanted to make and
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actually liberated me to make good, positive, forward decisions without feeling like I had to have
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everything figured out before I did so. Right. Yeah, it makes total sense. I know I get a lot of
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questions about where I see order of man going over the next year or two years or five years or
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10 years. And my answer, if I'm being truthful, is I have no idea. Yeah, I know where I'm going now.
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And that's it. Right. And I've got some goals and I've got some visions and some things I'm working
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on. But I don't want to pigeonhole myself into one thing. So I really like the way that you that you
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that you describe that because it it's just a process of decisions and corrections along the way,
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right? Yeah, 100%. And we never have full information before we make a decision. We only make
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it based on the information at hand. And we always are getting new information and you can always
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pivot later. You said something really interesting as we started talking today. You said that you were
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born, you came out of the womb an entrepreneur. And I would have to say that I was probably the
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opposite of that. I never had any entrepreneurial experience or desires when I was younger. I never
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sold candy or went door to door or even started a lawn care when I was a child. But I consider myself
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now an entrepreneur. And I think there's a lot of guys out here who think that maybe because they
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didn't come out the natural salesman or marketer or entrepreneur that somehow it's not in their stars
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or it's not for them. Tell me a little bit about that. Is it something that we're born with? Or is it
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something that can be developed? And how does that look? Well, yes, it absolutely can be developed.
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But I want to throw a bit of a wrench into the argument and propose the idea that maybe all of us
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are entrepreneurs. If we look at what an entrepreneur is, it doesn't just mean somebody
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who goes out and starts businesses. We get a lot of the glory, if you will, because there's a lot of
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cool stories out of that. But an entrepreneur is simply somebody who is compensated according to the
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value that they provide to the marketplace. Now, in a private sector economy, unless you work for the
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government, you are an entrepreneur, because you are operating in a place where you are paid or
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compensated for the value that you bring to the marketplace, which is not tied to your time.
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It is 0% tied to your time. Now, it takes time to provide value, but you're not paid for the time.
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You are paid for the value that you bring to the marketplace. Now, there are some systems
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that make it difficult to think this way. If you are working for someone and you're paid per hour,
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it can be a bit of a challenge to think about what makes you compensated more or less because you
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have an agreement with that employer. But I actually have one employee, my executive assistant,
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who took a pay cut to work for me over her last job. And it was she worked for the government,
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and she had a big mental hurdle to get over of this idea that I was paying her for value,
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not for her time. So we had a really interesting conversation where I proposed the idea where if
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she could provide more value by doing X, Y, and Z, I would be willing to compensate her more.
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And her eyes just opened up like, you mean there's other value that could be provided rather than just
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what's expected of me in this hour. But we're all operating that way. We're all operating in a world
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where we are compensated for our value rather than our time. And the system that you're operating in
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right now may not encourage that thinking, but that's the reality of it. So the minute that we focus
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on value driving activities, or providing as much value with our time as possible,
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then we have infinite, we have an infinite ceiling that we can grow into, because that is really how
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the world works. So I like to say that everybody is already an entrepreneur. Some people just aren't
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I like that. I like that. So how do you know what's valuable? And one of the things that you said
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earlier is where that freedom or that whatever it may be success lies, where your passion meets the
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demand. So how do you determine what's valuable? How do you determine where there's demand and where
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you can actually make a difference in the world?
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I had a professor in college, my favorite professor, his name was Dr. Tom Lehman. And Dr. Tom Lehman
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said something once in class that made me smile. And, and I've never forgotten this. He said,
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so many of you college students are walking around wondering, what's the plan for my life? What,
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what direction should I go in? What's the answer? Where's their demand? And he's, I went to a religious
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college and he said, God gave you the marketplace. The marketplace tells you where the value is.
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So the, the marketplace is where we identify where inefficiencies are or where there's
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excess compensation according to value and where we can provide a lot of value based on what people
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are willing to pay. So I, I look, I'm a capitalist pig. I think the marketplace is a great thing,
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a great indicator of where we can provide value. It's not the end all be all, but it can be a great
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data point for where a lot of value is provided. So I, I look at, at money as one of those indicators for,
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for where the value is. Now, if you're operating in a company that it's looking at where the company
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can provide the most value or where there's untapped potential or customers or clients that
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could be served in a way that is not currently being done and bringing those concepts or ideas to
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the table or going in that direction. I have a buddy who works for a healthcare company and he is
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constantly looking for ways to save his, his clients, which are hospitals, millions of dollars
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off their, off their expenses. And as, and as a result, he has clients and customers who just
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absolutely love him because he's constantly in a place of providing value. So I think the marketplace
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is a great indicator of that. If that's kind of a broad concept, if we look more micro,
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then we look at where people are spending money, where there are inefficiencies in marketplaces,
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how things can be improved, where industries or markets can be disrupted, how things can be done
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differently that improve people's lives. And any of these questions can lead us to conclusions where
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we can provide more value. I like that because that was actually my next question is you said that
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money is one indicator of value, but you talk about how to make things simplified or easier in people's
00:23:44.960
lives or where do they get satisfaction and fulfillment. So I can see how it goes so much
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deeper than just the monetary value of what you're providing. Yeah. If we can answer those
00:23:52.640
questions, then the money piece is usually really easy, but the, the money piece, if answered first,
00:23:59.180
can also be a really good indicator. I want to talk about your platform. Your brand is Freedom Fastlane.
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And I want to talk about what freedom is, because I think we all have a different definition of that
00:24:10.520
and define it differently and look at it differently. Right. When you say freedom,
00:24:13.720
what are you referring to? What specifically are you talking about? Beautiful question. I can,
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I don't think I've ever been asked this question. I've always wanted somebody to ask me. So thank
00:24:22.340
you. Good, good. Happy to. I define freedom as the space for you to define life as you see fit.
00:24:33.160
So, so many people identify freedom as the release of pain or struggle, meaning I want to be free from
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this. I want to be free from my job. I want to be free from oppression. We need to free this country
00:24:52.120
from whatever dictatorship is oppressing them. And that's the common way that we see it to free
00:24:59.620
from whatever is holding us back. I think that's a mistake until we have married that to whatever we
00:25:08.560
want to be free to move into. So if you think about a prisoner, a prisoner is locked in a cell somewhere
00:25:15.940
and he dreams of the day that he wants to be free from the prison cell. But we know when we have all
00:25:23.740
kinds of data on the fact that prisoners are more often than not less happy when they get out of prison
00:25:31.480
than when they were in prison. Right, right. It is not enough to just be free from the cell
00:25:40.720
and the oppressive prison guards. It has to be married to a clear vision of what they want to be free
00:25:47.780
to do. Freedom is empty. It is an empty concept. It's like an empty bedroom. If you look at a
00:25:56.180
bedroom and you're like, man, I just want to clear out all this furniture so I can sit in an empty room,
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that makes no sense. Right. But if you clear it out so that you can build something that you love
00:26:07.240
or design it in a way that you really enjoy, now you've actualized your freedom. But it's nothing
00:26:15.260
if it is empty. So when we say, I want to be free from this thing, that's great. Then what?
00:26:23.440
It has to be combined with, I want to be free from this thing so that I can be free to move
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in this direction. Otherwise, it is a completely empty, depressing, and lonely concept.
00:26:36.660
It reminds me a lot of, we hear about habits, trying to break bad habits. And it's not enough
00:26:42.520
to break the habit. You've actually got to replace that habit, a productive habit, a good habit with,
00:26:47.020
with replace the bad with that productive habit. Yeah. A hundred percent. Great, great comparison.
00:26:52.540
So I want to talk about this concept a little bit more because you have what you refer to as the five
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steps of freedom. So now that we've defined freedom a little bit and what we want to move into,
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let's talk about some of these steps. And the first one, which I think you already addressed a
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little bit, which is decide what you want life to look like. So we've, we've kind of skimmed the surface.
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Is there anything else that you would add when it comes to deciding what you want life to look
00:27:14.720
like? Well, if we, if we look at the analogy of the empty room, so, so many of us, especially guys,
00:27:21.500
we're afraid of this step because we, we don't want to make the wrong thing. But if we, if we,
00:27:27.820
we don't want to decide the wrong thing or get it wrong. But if we look at it like a room and we clear
00:27:33.060
out the old, we're free from all the junk in our room. And we were to just say, ah, isn't this freedom
00:27:38.200
great? I'm sleeping on the floor and I'm looking at a blank wall. It makes no sense. So this decide
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piece is just defining and getting clear on what we're going to put in the room or what we're going
00:27:50.520
to, where we're going to move our, our life next. We're not really free until we make some decision,
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even if it is not the ideal decision, we're not free until we have really decided and start to move
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towards what it is that we've decided. Right. Okay. So let's say we we've gone through this.
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We've decided we have a vision. We spend time reflecting. We think about what life wants to
00:28:14.020
look like. We know what we want to move towards. Then what do we do from there? The next thing is
00:28:18.280
to cut out everything that is not supporting that vision or that decision. So, and especially in
00:28:25.420
today's world where we have constant information, constant noise, distractions, opinions being thrown
00:28:34.180
at us all the time. We have, if you want to be an entrepreneur, you can listen to one of about a
00:28:40.180
hundred business authorities at any given time by typing into YouTube and listening to them. But if we
00:28:48.940
want to get what we want, then we have to cut out everything that does not directly serve that
00:28:55.000
purpose. Cutting out the information, cut out the time sucks, cut out the waste of our energy,
00:29:02.120
cut out the people who bring us down, cut out the surroundings that are not supporting the vision
00:29:07.580
that we have. We have to create space for us to expand into. And we can only do that by cutting out
00:29:16.200
things in our life that don't support the vision that we have. A great example is for whatever reason,
00:29:21.720
I find that if I log out of Facebook and change my password and write it down in a journal somewhere
00:29:28.300
so that I have to go get my journal anytime I have to log into Facebook, all of a sudden I get like
00:29:32.460
two extra hours a day. Now it's not like I'm sitting on Facebook for two hours, but when you compound the
00:29:38.500
distractions and the interruptions, I waste like two hours a day of productivity where I could be
00:29:46.880
supporting my vision just because Facebook is constantly like, hey there big fella, come check
00:29:51.320
me out. So when I cut that out, I get new time. If I cut out watching TV or if I cut out a relationship
00:30:00.900
that I feel is dragging me down, now all of a sudden we have this space to expand into the decision of the
00:30:08.740
vision that we've created. Right. Okay, good. So we've identified those things and now you talk about
00:30:14.700
expanding into this vision. Talk about that because I think that's the third step. Yeah, the third step is to
00:30:20.200
expand. And when I say expand, I mean expanding our mindsets and expanding our incomes. And we do that now
00:30:28.540
that we have the space to expand into. The biggest excuse that people make for not getting what they want is
00:30:36.300
I don't have the time or I don't have the blank. All right, quit whining and cut something out.
00:30:44.700
So that you can expand into that. And we expand by identifying the pieces of information,
00:30:51.920
the contacts that we would like to have that will lead us toward that vision. Most people know the rule
00:30:58.440
of five. If you are the average of the five people that you spend the most time with. So change who you
00:31:05.000
associate with, change the inputs in your brain, change the conversation that's going on in your
00:31:11.680
brain, and you will move towards a different vision. And you can align whatever supports that
00:31:18.500
vision because we have an abundance of information and contacts. We can contact everybody. So we expand
00:31:25.120
by consciously choosing what we do with our time and resources that we freed up in step two.
00:31:31.500
Right. So we talk about as much information as we're exposed to and have, and then next you say
00:31:38.900
expand those opportunities. How do we know what to consume? There's so much out there. And is there
00:31:45.600
a way for us to determine this is going to be helpful versus this is clutter and distraction in my life?
00:31:50.640
Yeah. I think when you come back from consuming some piece of information and you say,
00:31:56.080
what, we need to change everything because I had this new idea. That's a thought we need to
00:32:02.740
take captive, if you will. I'm an idea guy. So it's easy to get lost in the sea of ideas that are
00:32:10.720
constantly being thrown at us. So I think if something causes us to change direction swiftly,
00:32:19.320
we need to pause on that idea and consider if it meets with our vision that we've clearly defined.
00:32:26.980
I think the best sources of information come from individuals that are ahead of us on the path that
00:32:32.020
we want to go. And by being close with relationships that support us, that type of information or the
00:32:39.640
information that they recommend is usually a good filter for where we want to go.
00:32:44.260
Right. Yeah. I just had a conversation with some guys this morning about the power of mentorship
00:32:48.720
and I can see how valuable that is because you're finding, like you said, guys that have already been
00:32:53.220
successful in whatever area, whether it's learning how to be a better golfer or a better shot or a
00:33:01.360
better business owner, finding men who are people in general who have been more successful than you
00:33:06.020
have up to that point in emulating what they're doing. Exactly.
00:33:08.680
So this next step is really valuable. And I know most of the guys listening to this probably
00:33:13.640
adhere to this principle to some degree or they would not be listening to this podcast.
00:33:18.120
So talk to me about the next step. Step four is to invest. And before we go into investing,
00:33:23.500
I want to make the argument that everything is an investment. Everything has an ROI. The relationships
00:33:31.220
you keep. If you have a fight with your girlfriend or your wife, are you more or less productive? I mean,
00:33:37.920
come on, who can focus on you? You're not nearly as bad. Yeah. And whereas if you have a woman
00:33:42.660
who is like, I got your back, babe, no matter how big you fall or fail, I got you. You're like,
00:33:48.700
this work is mine. Today is mine. So does how you show up in your relationship have a financial ROI?
00:33:58.880
Yeah. Are you more or less productive when you wake up in the morning and you're just full of energy
00:34:03.460
and you are, you feel fit and you've gone to the gym? Yeah. We, we attack work completely
00:34:09.420
differently. So is your physical body have a financial ROI? Yeah. You better believe that it
00:34:14.440
does. So we can talk about like investment strategies that I follow, but the real argument
00:34:19.680
here is to recognize that everything we do with our time, every relationship that we keep is an
00:34:26.220
investment in some capacity. Free time is an investment because I am a terrible entrepreneur when I don't
00:34:32.260
have free time. If I burn the candle at both ends, I'm a, I'm terrible at work and playing video games
00:34:39.640
has a certain investment because there's diminishing returns. If I play video games for an hour and I get
00:34:44.600
disconnected, that can be a positive investment for me. But if I spend three days doing a game of
00:34:52.300
thrones marathon, or I'm playing, I'm playing Madden 16 for three days in a row, that usually has a
00:35:00.100
negative ROI in terms of my happiness, my financial return, my relationships. So everything is an
00:35:07.580
investment. And when we look at it like that, I think that frees us up to really make better
00:35:12.120
decisions. Yeah. It's such a great point. I mean, just for me personally, a lot of guys that are
00:35:16.580
listening to this podcast know that I've been on a health journey over the past several years. And I
00:35:20.280
had a friend of mine, a financial advisor that I'm in the business with, ask me about the success I've
00:35:25.780
had with losing weight and getting in better shape. And it's amazing. I told him, this is probably the
00:35:32.120
number one best decision, business decision that I ever could have made because my productivity and
00:35:39.180
my ability to connect with my clients and prospects went through the roof as I learned to master my body
00:35:45.520
because we can't make these decisions in a vacuum. The way you do it in one area is that naturally going
00:35:49.480
to spill over into another area. Absolutely. Completely agree. All right. So we're investing,
00:35:54.060
we're investing our time and our energy and our money and our commitment, and we've done all those
00:35:57.520
things. What's next? So the final step is to give back or just to give. And when we focus in a,
00:36:05.140
first of all, I think the best thing that you can do, the best way that you can give is to just be
00:36:10.420
completely you, is to live life on your terms, to focus on the things that light you up and the
00:36:19.360
things that change the world in your specific sweet spot. So if we've done steps one through four,
00:36:25.280
I think five is natural. But focusing on giving rather than taking or extracting, I think is really
00:36:32.160
how we ultimately get free because our ego is never happy. Our ego is never satisfied. And a healthy
00:36:38.440
amount of ego can be a healthy driver, but it's never satisfied. But when we focus on giving rather
00:36:47.180
than satisfying our ego or our selfish tendencies, that's when we really are free because that's
00:36:55.140
when we feel fulfilled. That's when we feel happy. And that's when we actually are able to change our
00:37:02.740
lives, our family's lives and the lives of those around us in a positive way. So focusing on the idea
00:37:10.120
of giving, even if it's just operating in your sweet spot, that is when we ultimately can get free.
00:37:16.020
I like that. And these aren't necessarily in chronological order. I mean, these are things
00:37:20.920
that obviously we want to be giving and we want to be doing these things throughout the entire thing.
00:37:24.480
So it's not like you check it off a list and then it's done forever, if I'm understanding correctly.
00:37:29.020
Well, they're not necessarily done forever, but I do think that there's a chronological order to them
00:37:34.040
because we can't have what we want until we're clear and we decide on it. We can't expand in
00:37:40.900
anything until we've created space for it. When we start to expand and invest, those are things that
00:37:48.280
we can only do once the first two are in place and they're long-term investments. And it's only
00:37:54.120
when we have gotten clear on what we want, we're moving towards it, we're expanding and we're
00:37:58.880
planting seeds for the future that we're really giving back. So if we just focus on giving before
00:38:05.300
we have really created any abundance for ourselves, we can't give as much. If we try to expand before
00:38:11.200
we have cut out anything, we burn the candle at both ends. So I think there is a chronological
00:38:17.020
order, but you're never done because once you have finished them, you tend to go back to the
00:38:22.420
beginning and say, okay, what do I want now? What direction do I want to go in now? And then we
00:38:27.320
decide, okay, what do we need to cut out? What do I need to expand into? What seeds do I need to
00:38:31.400
plant? And the whole cycle starts again. Nice. Yeah. That makes sense. Well, Ryan,
00:38:37.000
we're, we're running down on time here. I want to ask you a couple additional questions as we wind
00:38:40.720
down. The first one, I didn't even prepare you for this. So I'm throwing you on the spot and under
00:38:44.080
the bus a little bit, but this is a question I ask all of my guests. And that is, what do you think
00:38:49.380
it means to be a man? Wow. I mean, I think, yeah, it's a big one. I think being a man is putting
00:38:58.040
your stake in the ground and saying, this is who I'm about and this is who I'm going to be. And
00:39:03.080
this is what I stand for and never letting that be shaken. Perfect. On the spot, even well done.
00:39:09.660
Thanks. I, uh, I have very high testosterone. Yes, that's right. Hey, so we've scratched the
00:39:15.160
surface on the five steps to freedom. I know you have a ton going on. If guys are listening to this
00:39:19.940
and they're saying to themselves, Hey, I want to connect, or I want to learn more about what Ryan's
00:39:23.200
doing. I know you've got some exciting events coming up. And so let's hear about those and then
00:39:26.860
how we can connect with you. Yeah. My eyes, I focus mostly on business when it comes to what
00:39:32.500
I talk about publicly. So I have a business podcast called freedom fast lane, which you can find on
00:39:37.780
iTunes. The thing I'm most excited about right now is we're having our first ever live event here at
00:39:44.600
towards the end of the year, December 11th, 12th and 13th in Austin, Texas, where we're bringing
00:39:49.720
some of the top entrepreneurs in the world. Robert Herjavec, the nice guy on shark tank, Gary Vaynerchuk,
00:39:55.140
Grant Cardone, who owns about $350 million in real estate, the billionaire founder of Priceline.com,
00:40:01.900
Pat Flynn, the top business blogger. These are all guys that have stretched my mind. And I said,
00:40:08.460
how much, how many paradigms could we shatter if we got them all into a room for three days? And that's
00:40:14.280
what I set out to build. And that's what we're doing December 11th, 12th and 13th. And that's at
00:40:19.260
freedomfastlanelive.com. We'll make sure we link all that up to the show notes so the guys that are
00:40:24.460
listening can connect with you and connect with what you're doing and look at these events.
00:40:28.540
Ryan, I know you're busy. I appreciate your time. I appreciate your wisdom and everything that you've
00:40:31.740
shared with us today. Thanks for coming on the show. Thanks, Ryan.
00:40:34.440
There you have it, man. Mr. Ryan Moran talking about creating value, becoming an entrepreneur
00:40:38.420
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