OoM 047: The Dating Playbook for Men with Andrew Ferebee
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Whether you re single, dating or have been married for years, dating and attracting women is a critical skill all of us need to develop. My guest today, Andrew Farabee, talks with us about how to develop strength and confidence in ourselves, approach women naturally, and how to improve your dating game.
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Whether you're single, dating, or been married for years, dating and attracting women is a critical skill all of us need to develop.
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My guest today, Andrew Farabee, talks with us about how to develop strength and confidence in ourselves,
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approach women naturally, and how to improve your dating game.
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You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest.
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Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.
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You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.
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This is who you will become at the end of the day.
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And after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.
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My guest today is the founder of Knowledge for Men and also the Knowledge for Men podcast,
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which has over 2 million downloads, probably more by now, Mr. Andrew Faraby.
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Andrew has interviewed over 200 what I would call all-stars, including Bob Proctor, Gary Vaynerchuk,
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T. Harv Eker, Kevin Harrington, and a ton more.
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He also speaks to college and high school students in the San Diego area on career and
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And in addition to that, he hosts men's retreats in California, where he helps men get more
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out of their lives by teaching about personal development, success, entrepreneurship, relationship,
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So I'm excited about our conversation because what we're going to talk about dating women,
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finding women, courting women, all of that fun stuff.
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You're the expert, so we're going to chat about that.
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So you've got a new book, The Dating Playbook for Men.
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Tell me a little bit about why you decided to write that book and your background as well.
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So The Dating Playbook for Men is a culmination of eight years of working on my dating life,
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going from being single, always being broken up, friend-zoned by women that I really wanted
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to be with, and just always struggling with women all throughout my life, and watching
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all of my friends in great relationships, or just dating women, and for some reason, I
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just couldn't seem to attract women, or be able to date women, or get the women that I
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I was settling in relationships that didn't fulfill me.
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Honestly, I didn't write the book because I'm trying to become some pickup artist or some
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I have no intention of doing that, but I was doing this for myself, and so I was journaling
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my experiences with what was working, what wasn't working for almost eight years or so.
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And the book is just my journal, and I wrote it in a way where it makes sense, and obviously
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I formatted it and turned it into chapters, but the book is just my journal of going through
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So anyone who is currently single or could relate with kind of that story of just being
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friend-zoned and not being able to get the woman they wanted, feeling like all of these
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things are holding them back, such as their looks, their height, whether or not they're
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financially successful, or their body if they're not in shape, and all of these things,
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I could relate with all of that, and I wrote the dating playbook because I felt that I had
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I felt that there was too much garbage out there with the books that I was reading or
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with what I was seeing on YouTube and what was out there, and this is an action-oriented,
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results-oriented approach to getting the women that you want in your life.
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It's not so much about mindset as it is about being able to go out and get results.
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You want to be able to put the book down and get results, not put the book down and
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So tell me why we hear pickup artists a lot, and it's always with that kind of that weird
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Tell me a little bit about why there's such a bad rap, because I know that you've probably
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gotten a little bit when people say, oh, dating playbook.
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Tell me about some of the feedback that you're getting and how this might be different.
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Yeah, I think it gets a bad rap because people don't like pickup because it's about tricks
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and techniques and gimmicks, and it's a short-term little boost of instant gratification that
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And I think just the general opinion of a pickup artist is negative because we think of just
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kind of like the early pickup artist guys wearing weird hats and just wearing makeup and
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all this like, just like you couldn't relate to that kind of stuff.
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It's like, no, I want to be just an authentic version of myself.
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And I just need to be able to overcome that approach anxiety to meet women.
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And once I do that and how to have that conversation and the stimulating and meaningful conversation
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to make that connection from there, getting the phone number and being able to either text
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or call and have a good conversation or be able to navigate that conversation into turning
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And then how to play that dating game so that you don't fall into being needy or clingy or
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falling into that jealous type of vibe, which will often lead you into being into the friend
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zone and then getting into a relationship and then walking guys through the steps of what
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And then if it doesn't work out, then I also help guys or I recently came out with a book
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I'm just pumping out books, I guess, you know, and just helping guys overcome that breakup because
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in my opinion, you know, if a man doesn't overcome a very serious breakup, like there are breakups
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that we have where it's like, oh, damn, you know, this sucks.
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But then a serious breakup that lasted several years where your families were integrated, where
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the possibility of marriage was in the picture and losing that woman and not having ever overcome
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that and moved on from that and I say get complete with that breakup.
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I believe men can be chasing a woman who reminds them of their ex-girlfriend for the rest of their
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lives and they might even end up with another woman and have a family, but really they're
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So I just kind of went through this whole starting from approaching anxiety all the way to breakups.
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But yeah, I mean, I can go into some reasons why I believe men are single.
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This is, I think it gives a good, it's how I start off the book and it's kind of gives a
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I was once talking to a guy or I just wrapped up a men's retreat and one of the guys was saying,
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yeah, like I really just want to be dating multiple women and having those experiences.
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And I asked him, do you believe right now in this current state that you are capable of
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And I said, okay, if you don't believe that, then it's not going to happen.
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There's, there's mindset stuff that can help you believe that you can do it, but, but none,
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We can't do these tricks to your mind to make you believe that you're going to go out and
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So first we want to, we got to understand where you're, where are you at?
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And so I asked the man, like, where are you at in this stage of dating relationships?
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When you do go out, are you talking to women when you go out?
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So you're going out, but you're not talking to women.
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I, I see women that I like, but I can't approach them.
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I get scared and I get a lot of anxiety and okay, that's where we're at.
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So he wanted to be dating multiple women and I like to, I, I, we got to identify where you're
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So I just walk them through the steps backwards and he's getting started with, I, I can't
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And you think that's the number one reason guys struggle with dating and with women in
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That's definitely not the number one reason, but it is a reason why, um, some guys just
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Uh, I look at, let's think of it like business.
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I mean, when I use these terms, some men can just like, okay, get it.
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So if you have an amazing blog or, or, uh, a website and you're selling an amazing product,
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but you have zero traffic coming to your website and nothing happens, nothing happens.
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So what we need to do is get traffic, whatever, whatever that is.
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If it's online, it's organically or you're paying for traffic, but men, we need, you can
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You can be financially doing well or improving your, you're like on the path.
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There's, there's, as long as you're improving, like there's, you're okay.
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Like you're doing all these great things for yourself.
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You have, you have friends, you have a fun social life and you're like, why am I not,
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If the man has no traffic, like meaning he's not going out and meeting women, there's like
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He's either not going out or being introduced to women or he's not, he's not doing online dating.
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He's not, uh, even approaching girls when he sees them at the grocery store, at the
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coffee shop, at the gym, then he has zero traffic.
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So he might be a great product, but he's got zero traffic.
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So, you know, approach anxiety is probably, um, a big reason why a lot of guys are struggling
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If they would just talk to, or guys will say, I don't have time.
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I got all these responsibilities and I just say, how long does it take to have a conversation
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Uh, well, yeah, I mean, it could take a couple of minutes or it could take, I guess, two hours
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For the most part, it could be about three minutes before you're at a coffee shop.
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Like for the most part, it's, it could be just about three minutes and that could be
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Like you can get a girl's phone number in like 30 seconds, a minute, and the longer,
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Typically the longer conversation you have, the better, more reliable that phone number
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But if it takes three minutes, three minutes out of your day, like you don't have, so you
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don't have three minutes out of your day to talk to one girl, one girl a day, you know,
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one, as you're going about your day, that's, that's 30 girls a month.
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And so that's what I'm saying by getting some traffic, getting some flow.
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Is it just a matter of, so I've been out of this game for literally 13 years, which sounds
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Is it just a matter of being conscious and just saying, Hey, I've got to be conscious.
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Like what is it that's going to transition from either the excuse of I don't have time
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or I'm a little nervous about it to, Hey, let's be conscious about finding a companion.
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If I'm working with him coaching, I'll just pretend like I'm coaching some of your audience
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Imagine watching porn and masturbating for the next 10 years and still being single.
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10 years, 10 years from now, you're single and surfing through social media, looking at
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everyone, you know, who's married, happy and with children.
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Imagine being invited to weddings and other social gatherings with friends and family,
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Imagine going to bed alone at night for the next 50 years.
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Imagine both of your parents had died and they never got to experience grandchildren because
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All of the above are very realistic scenarios for men.
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But what I want to do is you have to link more pain to being single or settling in a
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relationship than to the pleasure of staying complacent with where you are now and stop
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pretending that things will just get better with time.
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Stop hoping that the right woman will simply just come into your life and just fall madly
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Um, if you just keep doing the same thing that you're doing, it's like Albert Einstein
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said, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different
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So why not take a proactive approach to becoming the most powerful version of yourself and also
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getting into the relationship with the woman of your dreams?
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So, yeah, we become, I mean, we become so complacent, right?
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I mean, anything, it's not just dating, but it's in business and it's in life and it's
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in our physical fitness and it's all of these things and it's, and we become so complacent.
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So I really liked the fact that you said, um, that, you know, the pain of, of the,
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the status quo has got to be greater than the struggle of going out and trying to approach
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a woman and having some of these conversations.
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And it sounds like what you're talking about is more of, as opposed to the short game,
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It sounds like in your book and some of the things that you discuss and coach with your
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I'm all for finding the one woman of your dreams, but I do believe in order to do that,
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Like, it's not just like getting that one girl and then it's over, but I believe it's
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very, even if you find an awesome girl, um, I would encourage you to continue dating, um,
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and, and really understanding what it is that you want.
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The more you date, the more that you learn about women and the more that you learn about
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And you also going through breakups is healthy for a man really helps you understand.
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Uh, breakups can be really a massive, massive point in a man's life for self-discovery.
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And so all of these things are really healthy for the man, uh, when viewed in this way.
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So dating multiple women gives you that abundance.
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It's like, you know, how to handle situations in the dating space.
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And, and also, uh, you're not so reliant on, on this one woman, you know, that you're
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capable of going out and meeting new women and being able to date them.
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You're not feeling like this is the only woman in the world who likes me.
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Cause you talked about you going through a lot of this experience and you being comfortable.
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So tell me from your vantage point now, looking back at it now, what is it that you really
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And then how did you decide or make that transition to start overcoming some of these
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struggles or issues that you're having with approaching women?
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I think a lot of it comes down to just, uh, that flow of traffic.
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I think a lot of guys at this point in their life, like they actually are ready to like,
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if they were having a, if I introduced you to a girl, like you would probably be able to
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have a good conversation and probably be able to escalate from there.
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Uh, I was, I was actually all of these at one point in my life and I, I'm sure I was
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I don't even know what they are, but I'm sure I fall into them.
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And I, I believe, uh, these eight things are why you're single.
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And I was all, all of them at one point and you kind of just go through them and learn
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And then you start dating more women and you have this under control and you just start moving
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But the first one is, uh, you're, you're not a strong, confident man.
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Number two, you don't understand women and female psychology.
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Number three, you don't go out and meet new women regularly, consistently.
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Number four, you don't know how to talk and flirt with women you're attracted to, such
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as you can talk to, you know, most girls, but when you're actually attracted to them,
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you kind of close, freeze up, freeze up, you close up and you, you hide who you are.
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Number five, you don't know how to transition from meeting a woman into a first date.
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Uh, number six, you don't understand how the dating process works.
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Number seven, you don't know how to have a happy, respectful and loving relationship.
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And number eight is you just ignore dating and relationships altogether and focus on
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I think the first one you said was you're not a confident man.
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How does somebody become more confident when it comes to approaching women so they can actually
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start this, this snowball or start this chain of events to get them in the position they
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Well, I would want a man not to be strong and confident, not for women, but for himself
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When he, when you, you, you, you want to be strong and confident to, to everyone.
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It's not like, Oh, only when I'm with women, I put on this front.
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It's like, even with at work, even at, if you're with a, you're trying to order something
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at a, at a restaurant from the waiter, from a bartender, like you, you want to be strong,
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And, and coming from having this kind of foundation set, um, allows for more opportunity
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with women just in general, a strong, confident man.
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I'll start with purpose, a man who has purpose, a man, I call him the grounded man, someone
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who is moving in a direction that he wants to go.
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He's not being, he's, he's a rock, he's a mountain, he's setting sail in a direction
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He's, he's a ship setting sail and he's not just, he, he, he has a GPS to where he's
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He's not just driving a car, just aimlessly hoping that he ends up at the destination that
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So he knows what he wants and he's moving in that direction.
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And it's so key that not to just know what you want, um, but that you're moving in the
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direction that you want to go in, meaning you're taking action, uh, versus being the
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They have a lot to say and, uh, they have no results.
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Maybe they listen to podcasts, maybe they listen, they go to events.
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And when you talk to them, you're like, wow, this guy's really going somewhere.
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And then three years later, he's saying the same thing.
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So let me ask you, is it that women can see that in you?
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That helps just specifically to isolate your attractiveness to women?
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What it, what it does ultimately is it removes neediness.
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It removes clinginess and it removes that jealousy because you're going, you're going where you're
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going and she's going to come along for the adventure.
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If she doesn't want to come, she's not the right girl, but you're not going to switch
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You're not going to change your sales and start shifting it for her.
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And if she wants to come, she will more often than not.
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When you have, when you have this kind of going for you, but yeah, women can sense that.
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And they want to know, although very, very, very, very few women will admit this, but
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they, they want you to have a purpose and something higher than yourself and even them.
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It removes the clinginess and you're, you're non, you're, you're not trying to like take
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You're, you're just trying to give her you, like you're letting her come along for your
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So again, it removes neediness, clinginess, and jealousy.
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Like removing these three things allows you to be a more of a value giving man.
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What are some of the, so you, you experimented, you wrote this in kind of a journal format.
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It's a book format, but it was a journal at one point.
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So tell me about some of the experiences that you had as you were trying to figure out
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Is there something that stood out as an exceptional victory or an absolute flop that you can share
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You know, like in my book, I give guys kind of some things you can get started with.
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Like, like I can say like opening lines don't matter because they don't, but everyone still
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And so I'm like, all right, well, I'll just give you some basic things.
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Like, let's say someone reads my book and I try to, you know, I don't want you to be me.
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And so not to follow people on YouTube or read someone's book and just try and be that
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person because you're like, oh, if I'm this person and he gets those results, then then
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And so my, my book is about unleashing you, your most authentic, attractive, powerful
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So much of this book will just apply into life.
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It's more of a personal development book geared towards dating more than it is a dating book.
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And this goes for men also in relationships because men will say, oh, I'm in a relationship.
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Well, you're never supposed to stop dating your wife or your girlfriend.
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Like I think all too often guys, when they'll start out, they'll try and be someone else
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because they don't like themselves because themselves in the past have not gotten the
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So they're going to be someone else and it's going to lead you down a path where it's like,
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yeah, you might get some results, but you're going to have this like internal conflict,
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internal battle with yourself where you're like, well, who am I?
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And that's a, that's a kind of a scary place to be when you don't know who you are
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You're, you're living your life through someone else.
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How are you seeing your coaching clients do some of this?
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Like how are they finding themselves so that they can then share themselves with, with the
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world and with the women they want to be around?
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Like I can kind of gauge where he's at just from talking to him, but we'll go through a
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It's a, it's important to just kind of work on yourself as a man first and always know
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what it is that you want, what it is that you value as a man in your life.
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So this will help you to understand which women you like.
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If you don't really know much about yourself and know what you like, then you're kind of
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just looking for, you're thinking with your penis.
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Like you're just like, whatever woman looks attractive, I want to.
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You want to be able to talk to a girl who's attractive and if you notice or identify qualities
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that are against yours or yourself, or just in general, you should be able to walk away
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from that, even if she's extremely attractive and wants you.
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And that's a powerful feeling to know that you're flipping the script and it's not about
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So share with us some of those opening lines that you said you're like, it's not about the
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opening line, but you said you had a couple that, that, that people could start
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So, I mean, they're not anything special, but it's just, hi, I'm Andrew.
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Saying hi, kind of like just this compliment and then inserting what's happening in that
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So it's, it's an easy thing to do is just a girl's laying out.
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She, she, she like gets up and then like takes off her headphones and I'm just like,
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And so that's, that's not anything special, but that's what works.
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Like the opener doesn't dictate whether or not you're going to get into a relationship
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It's just, uh, the opener just gets you, gets you in.
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So your opener should just be something that's happening in the present moment.
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And then from there, obviously your confidence and a lot of that stuff is going to come through
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If it's there and then you'll want to go into how, you know, how do you have this, uh,
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So there's like stimulating conversation and then meaningful conversation.
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So do you have some tips or pointers on, on where we could go from there?
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So you're probably wondering like, what's next?
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Um, you kind of, kind of have her interest a little bit and maybe.
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You don't want that weird, awkward silence where you're just like both staring at the ground,
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Well, first of all, understanding that a conversation is two people.
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It's not you just bombarding her with questions.
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It's, I like to say it's about 80, 20 for the first two minutes.
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So for the first two minutes, it's going to be you.
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So it's going to be about 80% you, uh, talking the majority of the time.
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But I'll just say after about two minutes, it should balance out.
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Like just, it's like, Holy, like Jesus, like calm down.
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And then I would say after about five minutes, it can start shifting to 20, 80, where she's
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A lot of guys just keep talking and they think like they have to impress the girl.
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It's like, yes, bought myself another 10 seconds.
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It's, it's, you know, you want to bounce between 50, 50 and 20, 80.
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Like too many guys will just, it's just question, question, question, question.
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Imagine like a salesman knocking on your door and asking you question after question.
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It's like every second with this person is just so painful and you just want out no matter
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how rude you'll have to be to get away from this person.
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Um, and that's what it's like for a woman when she, when you barrage her with question
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after question and you're not listening to what she's telling you.
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Like some guys be like, oh, I like, are you from around here?
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Like staying on that same topic and diving into that.
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But I think how do you get out of the 21 questions?
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First, you know, don't assume all women are just master social creatures.
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A lot of, especially younger women, very attractive younger women aren't, in my opinion, socially
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Of course, with their friends, their family, it's fine.
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But strangers, uh, they're used to guys chasing them and saying something stupid and talking
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So they really don't have a lot of experience being social with what I call the grounded man
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who is allowing her to participate in the conversation.
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And so, you know, kick the ball to her and she needs to kick it back.
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It's supposed to be a give and take conversation, but most guys don't even give her the opportunity
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to contribute in a conversation since they think they need to impress the girl with some
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witty lines, like over and over and over again in order to win her over.
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How do you practice outside of just talking with a woman?
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Because obviously you're intimidated to do it in a lot of cases or maybe difficult.
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And so are there some strategies you, uh, suggest for practicing that before you're
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I mean, is it just having conversations with girls, with guys and just figuring that out?
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I mean, how do you get, how do you become proficient in this skill?
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First of all, the answer is just going to be more experience.
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Like there's nothing that, uh, there's nothing that you're just going to read.
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And it's like, boom, like, it's just, I'm a social master.
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But, you know, I can break some things down into like some, some stuff that I have in
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the book that kind of just makes, helps guys understand like what they should be saying
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So I say like, there's, here's how you can do this is like, uh, there's you interview
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There's you statements, there's I statements, and then there's like these we adventures.
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So a, you question, you interview question is like, where are you from?
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So most guys need to reduce these kind of you question marks, these you interview questions.
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It's just that interview type of question, which are what most guys are often used to.
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Of course, you got to get to know her, but firing them one after another over and over again,
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uh, the woman obviously feels like she's being interrogated from a guy.
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So you want to be able to balance this out with what I call you statements and being able
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to say things like, yeah, you seem really adventurous.
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You really came alive when you started talking about school.
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You, you have this really good energy about you.
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You have this really beautiful smile when I saw that you were surfing.
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I was just in the water, like 10 minutes before our phone call.
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Uh, you seem very ambitious in life, like for girls telling you about her career instead
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of just asking her questions, you're just like giving her a positive statement.
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Every now and then, not too much, but yeah, having, being able to just notice something
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I'm noticing you're getting, you're like getting really excited.
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Uh, when you're talking about X, Y, Z, I'm noticing that you're seeing, you seem a
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I'm noticing that you're kind of holding back from the conversation.
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Uh, it could just be what you're experiencing from her, which is really authentic and honest.
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And it's something that, you know, guys aren't doing is being honest and open and authentic
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It seems like always trying to game it and not listening, like always just not listening.
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Like if guys can just listen more, she's giving you everything that you need, but it's like
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And then by the time like you find something you like, it's like, it's like, all right, like,
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You found something that you just kept asking all these questions.
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It's like, whatever she's giving you is the best thing that you need.
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Whether, whether it's like, oh, I'm, I'm upset.
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Like, oh, I'm, I lost my friends or whatever it is.
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And there's also, um, I statements, which I, which I mentioned earlier.
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So I usually be like, instead of saying like, where are you from?
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I'll be like, I'm from San Diego, you know, an I statement, which is going first.
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So because you shared first, she's more inclined to share too, because you're offering value
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So you're just saying something like, I like to, I like to salsa dance.
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So you're just sharing something about you and then asking her a question.
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So these are good because you're sharing a bit about yourself, which prompts her to do
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the same and always having the courage to go first kind of gives her some safety for
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So you can, when she shares, she's investing more into the conversation.
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And the more that she invests into the conversation, the more likely it is that she's going to want
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to see you again or just, you know, exchange phone numbers.
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So, and even when I say the word exchange phone numbers, I didn't say, can I have
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It's let's exchange phone numbers because you're also giving something of value to
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her, which is your phone number, which is, she has the opportunity to contact you too.
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Like that's really understanding that you're offering value.
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It's not that you're taking value, which is, you know, taking her phone number and she's
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And now she's, she's out and you're ahead, right?
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It's more like, oh yeah, let's exchange phone numbers.
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It's like, hey, like I really, I'm really enjoying this conversation, but I got to go,
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And it's like, of course, it's like, it even, I, it works with men as well.
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Like this is just, uh, you know, social skills.
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Uh, but then I, I, I say like these wee adventures.
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So it's like, oh, like if it's some younger girl, this would probably be more inclined,
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but it's like, oh, we should go to Las Vegas right now.
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Like, oh, we should run away and totally just get married in Vegas.
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It's something potentially in the future, but you're planting the idea of you two doing
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something fun later at another time, which kind of insinuates a perpetuating relationship.
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I'm not saying this is like how you talk, but I'm breaking down, giving you some other
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things such instead of just like asking questions with the girl.
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How do you, how does a guy judge how the conversation is going?
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How, because I'm sure that there's a lot of signals that are pretty obvious and there
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might be other signals that are maybe not so obvious or we can't see as well as men.
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And so how do you judge or benchmark how that conversation is going?
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Like if you're in your head judging, you know, is this working?
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And it's, if that's how your head is thinking, then it's showing up in your body as well.
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Like you just want to just, you're going to deliver value.
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You're going to like, just give your personality to her.
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You're just showing her who you are and that's it.
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Whether or not she seems upset, she's, she's like, she's a variable.
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You're just giving value, enjoying your life, moving through life.
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But she's a variable, which is, you don't know like how she grew up as a child.
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You don't know if she, she just broke up with someone.
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Like there's all these variables that you don't know and you can't control.
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And so that's, that's all you do is you just go and deliver you and, and that's it.
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If you're judging the interaction, then you're in your head.
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And when you're in your head, you're, you know, you're not being attractive.
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I've got some other questions because this is so much information.
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Like we're not even getting into how in depth I know this can be.
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And obviously we're going to give those that are listening an opportunity to connect with you and see what you have going on.
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But I'm really curious before we get into some of these other questions, do you have some advice for men that are married, that have been in relationships for a long time and how they can continue to date their spouses, date their wives?
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Honestly, never stop dating and taking the things she does for you for granted.
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When you ask her to be your girlfriend or to marry you, you promise to be the man who would protect and carry her heart.
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I mean, you got to treat each date like it's your first date, full of excitement, full of adventure.
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Remember that first date that you had with your girlfriend or wife.
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And remember how you nervously kind of picked out your clothes.
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Remember how nervous you were, that feeling that you had in her stomach as you were meeting her at a venue, whether it was at a restaurant, a coffee shop, wherever it was, at the park, at the beach.
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Remember that feeling you had as you were walking and you were like, oh, where is she?
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You like went to the bathroom like twice before because you were so nervous.
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It's like bringing that feeling back that it really keeps it alive.
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And to just always have fun together, go on adventures together, experience more of life together instead of separately.
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Although, yes, have like separate lives, different friends and different hobbies away from each other.
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But being able to experience life together is very important.
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Take her on fun excursions without telling her where you're going.
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Maybe you guys usually watch a movie on Fridays.
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Maybe you just take her for a drive and park and then just sit on the trunk of your car and just – you have a bottle of wine in the trunk.
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Like laugh more and be – laugh uncontrollably together and don't take life so damn serious.
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And just forget all of this – like stop complaining and whining about why she's not this other person and just embrace her for who she is and love all the beauty that she is.
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I think a relationship where two people are just naturally good friends with each other is a relationship that's going to stand the test of time.
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It may be the last moment that you have with someone that you love.
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I mean we all know someone who has died probably in the last year.
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We all know someone close to us at some point who has died.
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And someone someday is going to be the person you love, your girlfriend, your wife.
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I'm going to have to implement some of those because I know those are things that I need to continue to do.
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The first one, I ask this of all my guests and I want to hear this from you.
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And the question is, what does it mean to be a man?
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You know, it's a powerful question and there's so much to go in depth.
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But I'll follow it up with, you know, I'll just touch more.
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Buddha says your purpose in life is to find your purpose and give your whole heart and soul to it.
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Something important, noble and beautiful enough for you to even die for.
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Something you choose to completely commit yourself to.
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And I believe for a man, your purpose grounds you.
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It maximizes your chances for career, business, success in your relationships and gives you the opportunity of having – of doing something that you absolutely love, which is going to give you more life.
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But purpose gives you increased flow experiences, which is correlated with more happiness and professional success.
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And so having a purpose for why you're doing what you do, why are you here, having this really makes you a stronger, more grounded, more confident, more self-reliant man where you're not needing anything from anyone else.
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And you're obviously not jealous of any other man or anybody else because you are going on your path and you love your path so much that it makes you come alive.
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And more men need to come alive because the world is full of people who are dead.
00:38:44.580
And then the last thing I want to ask is if guys that are listening to this want to know more about you and what you're doing and get some of this advice or pick up one of your books, how do we connect with you, Andrew?
00:38:52.380
Yeah, just you can go to knowledgeformen.com and pretty much my podcast is there, the Knowledge for Men podcast.
00:38:58.360
You can check out my book, The Dating Playbook for Men or The Breakup Manual for Men, which are both Amazon bestsellers at the moment.
00:39:09.800
So it sounds like you're going to go relax for a second.
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So I really appreciate taking some time and teaching us some of these things that I think is so important.
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